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From YouTube: Housing Task Force Meeting : July 23, 2020
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This
is
our
first
meeting
in
about
three
weeks,
so
welcome
back
everyone
to
our
recovery
task
force
meeting
I
apologize
for
the
delay.
We
had
a
couple
of
technical
difficulties
that
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
that
I'm
mindful
of
everyone's
time,
and
so
we
would
like
to
to
move
forward
just
a
quick
update.
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If
you
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
I'll
walk
through
kind
of
some
very
brief
recommendations
that
she
had
around
items:
3a
and
3b,
working
with
the
courts
to
identify
if
the
eviction
filings
were
still
occurring
and
determining
what
the
scale
of
evictions
would
be
when
the
courts
reopen.
You
all
recall
that
we
had
several
very
informative
guest
speakers
to
come
in
early
on
and
talk
with
us
through
that,
and
so
we
did
a
lot
of
work
up
front,
and
so
mrs
graham
didn't
have
any
recommendations
around
those
two
particular
items.
K
However,
she
did
have
recommendations
around
working
item
3c
working
with
the
courts
to
improve
the
evictions
process
over
the
long
term.
We
know
that
evictions
are
just
not
occurring
as
it
relates
to
covet,
but
that
they
they
will
continue
to
occur,
and
so
her
recommendation
was
providing
additional
resources,
allocating
additional
resources
for
the
cities.
K
If
you
go
to
the
decks
slide,
this
one
is
really
around
reentry
and
ex-offenders
who
live
with
family
members
and
what?
What
what
she
found
doing
her
work
is
that
often
when
someone
is
living
with
relatives
or
in
a
household
where
they're
they,
they
do
have
a
history
as
an
ex-offender
that
the
entire
household
is
evicted.
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I
I
tend
to
agree
with
you.
I
think
it's
one
that
that
certainly
I
would
like
to
proceed
with
as
well
and
obviously
it's
it
touches
on
areas
that
we
don't
have
direct
jurisdiction
with
so
you're
right,
councilmember
winston,
the
the
appropriate
jurisdiction,
probably
would
fall
within
your
committee,
the
intergovernmental
relations
committee,
and
as
we
prepare
our
legislative
agenda,
both
federally
and
statewide
for
the
2021
calendar
year,.
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I
think
the
recommendation
is
appropriate
in
the
sense
of
making
short
landlords.
I
mean
folks
that
use
good
professional
property
management
companies
have
updated
their
their
requirements
to
be
in
in
compliance,
but
I
think
it's
probably
true
that
many
rental
owners
who
don't
know
about
the
change
or
don't
have
property
management
companies
that
know
about
the
change
are
probably
not
following
it.
So
I
think
there's
two
pieces
to
this.
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I
don't
know
I'm
the
wrong
person
to
answer
this,
but
my
assumption
would
be
that
the
federal
would
trump
the
state,
because
it
is
a
fair
how
I
believe
it's
an
interpretation
of
fair
housing.
So
I
don't
think
the
state
law
could
be
more
restrictive,
but
I
I
promise
I
shouldn't
probably
answer
because
I'm
not
sure.
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C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and,
and
I'm
experiencing
some
of
the
same
technical
difficulties
with
our
webex
app
that
ms
johnson
encountered
too.
So
I
apologize
I'm
trying
to
watch
on
facebook
while
listening
on
the
phone
and
they're
not
exactly
synced
up,
but
I
saw
on
one
of
the
slides,
maybe
two
of
the
slides,
where
the
recommendation
is
for
resources.
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I
also
don't
want
to
create
sound
quality
on
this
listing
end,
but
did
did
I
miss,
or
was
it
not
said
what
level
of
resources
we're
talking
about
in
terms
of
I
assume
dollars,
and
if
this
is
going
to
be
sent
from
the
task
force
to
the
full
council?
Will
there
be
a
dollar
amount
attached
to
the
request
before
it
gets
to
council?
And
if
so,
do
we
yet
know
what
that
dollar
amount
might
be.
K
So,
mr
evelson,
thank
you
for
the
question
they're
at
this
point
there,
the
resources
are
not
very
well
defined,
so
there
are
no
dollar
amounts
at
this
time
I
would
we
can.
We
can
go
back
and
dig
deeper
and
determine
what
level
of
resources
those
need
to
be
and
put
dollar
amounts
to
those
prior
to
those
coming
to
the
city
council.
C
Okay,
yeah,
I
mean
I,
I
have
no
doubt,
there's
an
appetite
for
us
to
deploy
more
resources
to
these
issues,
but
obviously
we'll
would
have
to
know
what
that
what
level
of
resources
and
where
do
those
dollars
come
from
and
do
they
take
dollars
from
some
other
initiative.
So
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
thinking
about
that
in
advance.
E
Yeah,
actually,
the
actual
question
I
was
going
to
ask
was
whether
the
city
currently
funds
and
I'll
get
the
the
mediation
the
the
the
recommend.
The
first
recommendation
was
about
additional
resources
to
the
mediation
program
that
we've
heard
a
lot
about,
and
do
you
know
if
the
city
is
currently
funding
that
or
what
it's
fun
or
is
it
primarily
county,
funded.
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So,
to
some
degree,
if
you
wanted
to
say
double
it,
you
kind
of
know
the
city
kind
of
knows
how
much
it
costs
currently
and
it
would
be
able
to
put
some
numb.
It
wouldn't
be
as
hard
to
put
numbers
around
it
if,
if
it
was
funded
by
someone
else,
and
you
were
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
add
on
it
might
be
harder,
but
you
could
you
could
put
some
numbers
to
say
to
increase
the
number
by
50.
It
would
be
x
dollar.
You
know
that
that's
something
the
city
could
pick.
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Okay,
I
think
I
just
my
general
comment:
is
existing
programs
that
you're
adding
to
are
always
a
lot
easier
to
to
institute
quickly?
Some
of
the
other
recommendations
are
probably
almost
like
brand
new
programs
that
would
have
to
be
developed,
and
but
that
one
seems
one
that
would
be
fairly
easy
to
put
new
dollars
to,
because
it's
something
that
already
exists.
K
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H
We
will
also
have
some
public
testimony
on
this
issue
at
our
next
meeting,
so
so
we'll
have
a
more
full
discussion
around
this
and
and
hopefully
have
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
dig
into
a
little
bit
more
of
the
nuance
around
what
some
of
the
issues
are.
It's
great
that
the
hud
policy
is
in
place,
there's
still
a
gap
in
terms
of
some
landlords
who
are
not
under
that
regulation.
So
so
we
do
still
need
to
talk
about
it.
There's
also
north
korean
housing.
H
Finance
agency
has
some
specific
prescriptions
around
this
as
well.
So
there
are
a
number
of
other
places
where
there
is
a
set
of
regulations
around
how
this
should
be
handled,
and
so
we'll,
as
I
said,
we'll
be
talking
further
about
that,
as
as
part
of
the
discussion
from
my
task
force
item
on
the
regulatory
legislative.
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H
The
then
more,
effectively
or
more
efficiently
provides
safe
and
decent
housing,
which
are
most
vulnerable,
which
is
one
of
the
most
critical
elements
of
maintaining
household
health.
During
this
covet
19
crisis,
then,
to
better
utilize
the
unpredictable
and
inadequate
federal
funds
that
are
dedicated
to
housing,
vulnerable
households
establish
creative
budget
neutral
policy
for
housing.
Solutions
in
a
time
of
physical
uncertainty,
then
work
towards
economic
mobility,
housing
choice,
mobility
goals
and
opportunity.
Housing
goals
next
slide.
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H
So
all
these
topics
cover
a
wide
range
of
different
challenges
and
barriers
that
potentially
could
inhibit
the
production
and
delivery
of
affordable
housing
and
the
desired
outcomes
that
we've
identified.
So
what
I've
done
is
the
best
effort
at
distilling
those
topic
areas
into
some
specific
summarizations
and-
and
those
are
the
items
that
follow
here,
the
first
one
identifying
the
housing
gap
so
the
the
issue.
There
is
matching
units
that
are
available
to
serve
the
load
of
modern
income,
households
with
those
units
that
are
available
and
that's
a
somewhat
disjointed
process.
H
H
We're
hearing
that
this
is
a
challenging
process
for
our
regular
market
rate
units
and
there's
no
real
benefit
or
incentive
or
motivation
to
go
through
that
same
level
for
these
affordable
housing
units
without
having
some
kind
of
potential
relief.
There
next
thing:
yep
the
limited
resources
for
coordination
and
integration.
H
H
The
city's
housing
market
analysis
cites
that
the
5
to
19
units
represents
about
67
000
units
in
the
actual
number
of
residential
properties
and
the
20
unit
and
above
represents
about
44
500
units.
So
if
there
were
opportunities
for
those
5
to
20
unit
properties
to
perhaps
grow,
the
question
is
whether
or
not
that
could
increase
the
supply
of
housing
substantially
the
regulatory
challenges.
H
H
H
So
you
can
get
some
additional
feedback
and,
prior
to
the
next
meeting,
also
provide
you
with
some
additional
briefing
materials
to
give
you
some
additional
information
and
insight
on
these
topics.
So
when
the
recommendations
come
forward,
you'll
you'll
have
a
better
sense
of
how
to
evaluate
those
recommendations.
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B
F
Thank
you
excellent
presentation,
mr
lindsay.
Thank
you
for
that.
I'm
wondering
if,
under
the
regulatory
changes
that
you
will
be
recommending,
if
inclusionary
zoning
came
up
in
the
discussion
at
the
state
level,
I
know
it's
controlled
at
the
state
level.
There's
really
nothing
that
charlotte
can
do
without
having
that
state
change,
but
did
that
come
up
in
your
discussion
as.
M
H
To
be
honest,
this
is
a
probably,
as
you
know,
an
ongoing
discussion
amongst
stakeholders
and
housing
providers
in
the
charlotte
community
and
there's
division
on
this
question
clearly,
and
there
is
some
interest
in
exploring
that
and
that
there
is
a
need
to
ensure
that
units
are
continuing
to
be
produced,
and
this
is
perceived
to
be
one
way
of
doing
it.
The
other
side
of
the
discussion
is
that
you
know
these
types
of
programs
have
sort
of
a
varied
result.
H
When
you
look
around
the
country
and
in
some
cases
these
programs
are
sort
of
ascribed
to
produce
additional
costs,
that
increase
the
cost
of
housing
and
and
therefore
have
not
proven
to
be
effective
and
don't
actually
produce
the
amount
of
units
that
that
people
would
hope
that
they
that
they
would
so
so
there's
debate
on
both
sides
of
it.
Clearly,
north
carolina
has
a
rule
that
says
that
if
we
want
to
implement
that
there's,
it
does
require
additional
state
legislation.
H
That
is
not
at
this
time.
One
of
the
recommendations
that's
coming
forward
from
my
work.
I
think
that
the
the
council
and
the
good
neighborhoods
committee
will
need
to
continue
to
do
further
research
around
that
and
prioritize
where
an
item
like
that
might
fit
into
its
legislative
agenda
because
it's
on
our
list,
I
think
that
there
are
a
number
of
things
that
I'm
going
to
say
are
parking
lot
kinds
of
items,
and
that
would
be
one
of
those.
H
F
M
E
Quite
all
right,
if
I'm
premature
in
these
questions
and
they'll,
be
part
of
the
recommendations,
feel
free,
but
thank
you,
mr
lindsey,
again
great
presentation.
A
lot
to
chew
on.
I
think
my
two
questions,
slash
comments
would
be
one
would
be
I've
gotten
some
emails
and
actually
I've
been
interested.
I've
been
looking
forward
to
being
educated
as
to
that
emails
have
said
that
the
source
of
income
discrimination
to
to
effectively
do
that
or
to
get
rid
of
that
only
requires
local
action.
E
It
doesn't
require
state
action
which
would
be
good
news
in
the
sense
of,
if
that's
the
easiest
way
to
get
to
to
address
it.
I'm
interested
if
you've
already
researched
that
and
believe
kind
of
contrary
to
inclusionary
zoning.
You
have
one
less
hurdle
on
that
one
question
and
then
the
other
would
be.
You
specifically
talked
a
lot
about
development
fees
coming
from
the
multi-family
world.
E
E
We
do
have
county
fees
as
well
and
whether
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
same
for
a
single
family
developer,
but
whether
they're
just
narrowing
the
focus
to
something
that
you
know
is
a
and
I
don't
believe
changing
that
would
require
any
state
action.
It's
really
a
local
policy
as
to
how
do
you?
How
do
you
pay
for
water
and
sewer
globally?
How
do
you
allocate
those
costs?
So
those
two
are
kind
of
questions.
Slash
comments
in
terms
of
based
on
your
presentation.
H
Great
thanks
I
can,
I
can
address
both
of
those
actually
and
unfortunately,
the
feedback
that
I'm
receiving
from
legal
counsels
around
this
question
of
the
source
of
income.
Discrimination
does
not
seem
to
lend
itself
to
the
city
having
the
enabling
legislation
or
authority
to
necessarily
enact
those
things
on
its
own,
so
it
it
does
appear
that
that's
one
of
the
items
that
and
we'll
be
making
recommendations
around
that.
H
That's
one
of
the
items
that
the
city
may
need
to
seek
additional
authorizations
to
actually
implement,
depending
on
how
you
go
about
it.
But
as
part
of
those
as
part
of
that
discussion,
I
will
also
be
bringing
forward
some
other
policy
recommendations
that
the
city
may
be
able
to
implement,
which
would
at
least
move
us
forward
in
addressing
the
problem.
H
It
doesn't
get
us
all
the
way
there,
but,
but
I
think
it
will
get
us
part
way
there,
and
it
will
certainly
start
to
move
us
down
the
road.
So
so
we
are
going
to
address
that
question,
and-
and-
and
I
was
hoping
that
you
would
be
right
in
that-
we
would
have
a
clear
path
forward
for
the
city
to
be
able
to
do
that
on
its
own.
H
With
respect
to
the
the
fees
we
are
really
kind
of
focusing
on
the
engineering
plan,
approval
process
and
the
fees
associated
with
that
on
the
multi-family
side.
Clearly,
water
and
sewer
tap
fees
are
a
big
expense
on
the
single
family
side.
The
review
and
approval
process
can
also
become
a
fairly
hefty
process
and
expense,
and
it's
not
just
necessarily
the
fees
that
are
charged
by
the
city,
but
it's
also
the
costs
that
are
incurred
as
a
result
of
the
process.
H
H
Is
the
process
piece
also
not
just
the
actual
dollar
fees,
although
I
did
receive
fair
amount
of
input
from
smaller
builders
who
say
that
those
costs,
including
sewer
and
water
fees,
add
substantial
amounts
to
the
overall
project
cost
when
you
get
to
the
smaller
projects
and
therefore
become
even
more
barriers
to
being
able
to
produce
this
housing.
So
so,
there's
a
little
bit
of
growth
in
your
in
the
in
the
question
and
and
we'll
talk
more
about
that
with
the
public.
G
Frank,
thank
you
so
much
for
a
great
presentation,
like
the
focus
on
innovation.
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
find
new
models
to
do
what
we
do.
I
think
one
way
to
do
that
is
by
providing
a
and
a
senate
or
alters
to
come
in
just
as
an
example
of
wells
fargo.
Now,
in
that
nationwide
competition,
all
the
the
wells,
fargo
breakthrough,
challenge
for
affordable
housing
whereby
they're
they
are
in
this
is
in
cooperation
with
the
enterprise
communities
and
they're,
providing
a
two
million
dollar
prize
to
find
new
models
for
developing,
affordable
housing.
G
G
H
We
have
account
for
those
in
our
plan,
but
we
don't
really
have
a
mechanism
to
support
the
use
of
those
kinds
of
dwelling
structures
or
dwelling
units
in
our
housing
program.
There's
we
don't.
We
don't
have
a
funding
mechanism
for
that.
There
are
a
number
of
things
that
are
permitted
in
our
zoning
code.
The
adus
is
just
one
example,
but
there
are
a
number
of
other
things
that
are
permitted
in
the
zoning
code
that
are
not
being
actively
implemented
in
our
community.
H
That
would
provide
additional
housing
solutions.
That's
where
boarding
houses
and
commercial
rooming
houses
came
up,
so
we
need
to
look
at
whether
or
not
we
can
have
funding
structures
that
support
these
other
types
of
what
we
want
to
call
innovative.
Some
of
them
are.
I
talk
to
people
who
are
producing
container
houses.
They've
got
similar
kinds
of
challenges
because
until
it's
affixed
to
the
ground,
as
you
know,
it's
not
real
estate,
and
that
means
it
cannot
be
financed
easily.
That
means
it
cannot
be
treated
as
real
property.
B
J
Hi,
that
was
an
absolutely
fabulous
presentation.
Thank
you
so
much
as
we're
looking
at
the
the
I'm
sure,
the
universe
of
research
that
you
discussed
and
the
materials
if
it's
possible,
we
always
typically
focus
on
housing,
trust
funds,
but
I
know
that
the
city
finds
innovative
ways
to
put
money
into
these
projects
that
are
more
than
just
housing
trust
funds.
There
are
sip
funds,
there
are
tig
funds,
there
are
a
number
of
different
ways
and
I'm
just
wondering
what
the
controls
are
for
these
recipients
of
these
funds.
H
Great,
that
is
one
of
the
areas
that
I'm
researching
and
and
am
expecting
to
bring
forward
recommendations
around
and
more
from
a
policy
standpoint
than
actually
a
regulatory
standpoint.
I
think
again
it
appears
that
the
housing
code,
the
charlotte
city
housing
code,
is
a
fairly
prescriptive
document.
H
Instead
of
rules
that
the
state
sets
out,
which
the
city
has
to
really
kind
of
abide
by,
to
a
large
extent
and
anytime,
you
deviate
from
that.
You've
got
to
kind
of
get
some
approval
around
it.
So
from
a
policy
perspective,
though,
I
think
that
there
are
some
mechanisms
that
can
be
put
in
place
to
ensure
that
we
achieve
some
of
the
outcomes
that
we're
designed
to
achieve,
especially
around
the
use
of
the
funds
that
the
city
itself
has
to
projects.
H
So
that's
an
area,
and
I
think
that
that's
really
where
the
tigs
and
the
sip
type
funding
come
into
play
and,
and
those
are
areas
that
we
should
definitely
be
looking
at
and
trying
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
control
those
grants
and
and
those
awards
in
a
way
that
helps
to
achieve
these
outcomes
that
we,
you
know
that
we're
looking
to
accomplish
so
yeah?
We
we're
going
to
bring
something
forward
on
that
point
too,.
J
G
D
I
agree
that
there
needs
to
be
more
focus
on
here.
I
would
love
to
if
part
of
the
direction
of
that
also
went
horizontally,
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
I
think
that
there
is
is
more
that
can
be
done
internally
with
economic
development
incentives
if
we
really
do
think
of
those
five
to
20
units,
especially
for
local
developers
and
landlords,
local
developers
and
landlords,
those
are
small
business
owners.
So
how
do
we
support
them?
D
We,
as,
as
it
was
said
in
a
presentation
we
really
have
looked
at
those
larger
projects
to
to
get
some
of
the
other
city
priorities
like
sidewalks,
intersection
improvements.
That's
why
it
makes
more
sense
to
use
some
of
those
incentives,
but
how
do
we
kind
of
look
at
what
we're
doing
in
a
in
a
different
way
to
get
some
of
some
of
the
more
things
that
we
want?
I
I
would
also
just
I
know
that.
D
There's
a
been
a
lot
of
talk
from
a
couple
different
folks
about
the
reduction
of
fees,
and
you
know
I
I
just.
I
just
want
to
temper
that
I
feel,
like
my
colleagues,
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
there
is
potential
discussion
as
we
continue
to
grow
as
we
continue
to
try
to
figure
out
how
we
fund
things
like
mobility
and
more
equitable
development
around
the
city
that
there
might
need
to
be
increase
of
fees,
particularly
on
market
rate
projects,
to
facilitate
those
types
of
funds.
D
D
H
We
have
we
did.
We
have
had
some
discussion
around
that
and
in
fact,
one
of
the
documents
that
I'm
going
to
provide,
which
is
actually
in
our
dropbox
already.
So
it's
available
to
you
now,
if
you'd
like
to
look
at
it,
but
the
in
libya
who
manages
those
the
voucher
side
and
I'll
just
talk
about
that
for
a
moment.
H
But
but
they've
made
actual
changes
in
how
they
are
actually
executing
the
program
to
accommodate
that
and-
and
I
believe
that,
because
there's
a
finite
number
of
those
vouchers
and
I'm
again
just
focusing
on
vouchers,
there's
a
finite
number
of
vouchers
available
to
be
utilized.
They
they
currently
are.
They
have
capacity
to
manage
that
process.
H
So
the
the
utilization
of
all
of
the
vouchers
that
are
out
there,
for
example,
this
does
not
appear
to
be
a
a
burden
on
their
operation
because
they're
kind
of
already
set
up
and
prepared
for
that.
But
let's
also
talk
about
the
all
the
other
sources
of
income
that
that
could
be
used
in
the
case
of
a
rental
and
so,
for
example,
right
now
we're
awarding
cares
dollars
and
providing
rental
subsidy
with
that.
H
We
work
through
non-profits
our
non-profit
partners,
to
provide
that
rental
subsidy
on
an
ongoing
basis
for
people
who
find
themselves
short
of
being
able
to
make
rent
or
short
of
being
able
to
make
a
utility
payment
and
so
forth.
So
the
question
really
becomes
how
much
funding
can
we
allocate
can
can
be?
Utilizing
is
available
to
continue
to
support
those
growing
needs
and
those
needs
are
growing
rapidly,
obviously,
which
is
why
we
are
looking
to
address
these
issues.
H
H
But
I
think
that
from
a
voucher
standpoint
that
the
in
libya
has
the
capacity
to
manage
the
utilization
of
all
their
vouchers
and-
and
I
think
that
the
non-profits
who
currently
are
doing
this
kind
of
work-
probably
have
similar
capacity.
I
don't
know
if
ronda
or
connie
might
have
additional
comments
on.
C
C
Are
there
a
few
things
that
we're
talking
about
in
a
kind
of
narrowly
focused
covet
task
force?
That
should
come
to
the
full
council's
recommendations
from
the
great
neighborhoods
committee
so
that
there's
no
either
real
or
perceived
process
misstep
by
having
brought
them
forward
to
counsel
from
a
covered
task
force
and
they
might
or
might
not
be
overrelated?
Does
that
make
sense.
K
That
that
does
mr
eggleston
and
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
I
think
particularly
this
body
of
work,
because,
as
you
can
see,
there
are
many
things
here
that
that
we
need
to
discuss,
and
we
also
need
to
involve
our
colleagues
from
a
legal
perspective
and
also
from
a
planning
perspective.
So
I
do
think
particularly
many
of
the
things
that
that
mr
lindsay
has
discussed
touched
on
today
need
to
it
would
be
my
recommendation
respectfully
that
they
would
go
to
the
great
neighborhoods
committee.
K
C
Might
be
then,
process
wise
as
this
task
force,
because
I'd
love
to
have
the
task
force
stamp
on
these
things?
Might
we
as
a
task
force
whether
it's
might
be
next
thursday
at
our
our
I
believe,
final
meeting?
Might
we
refer
those
items
to
the
great
neighborhoods
committee
where
they
could
then
properly
be
referred?
I
mean
I
don't
necessarily
care
how
we
get
to
it.
B
B
Part
of
the
discussion
was
one
making
sure
that
the
recommendations
that
the
task
force
has
submitted
to
the
city
council
passed
through
the
great
neighborhoods
committee
to
ensure
that,
in
fact,
that
the
council
process
is
not
circumvented
but
certainly
just
dotting
eyes
and
crossing
t's
as
council
member
elviston
has
suggested.
So
we
we
will
do
that
and
then.
B
Mr
lindsay,
when
we
do
reconvene
to
come
before
the
great
nevis
committee
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
lose
anything
in
the
transition
and
that
offer
will
also
be
made
to
the
other
leads
who
have
already
made
recommendations
to
the
city
council
so
that
we
won't.
We
won't
lose
anything
in
the
transmission
of
the
information.
I
I
So,
while
I
do
have
the
floor,
I
would
like
to
just
go
ahead
and
say
that
what
we
found
fun
is
that
property
managers
are
willing
to
work
with
us
with
some
vouchers,
but
they
really
want
to
work
with
people
to
have
support
service
and
more
important
that
are
working,
and
so
it's
not.
I
just
want
to
say
that,
because
I
don't
think
we
talk
about
it,
it's
not
that
people
just
discriminate
against
vouchers.
I
Just
based
on
your
comment,
though,
about
we
were
wrapping
up
today,
I
know
in
august
we
were
going
to
talk
about
homelessness,
and
so
I
guess
we're
not
going
to
be
talking
about
that
with
the
task
force
group,
but
I
feel
confident
that
I'll
continue
to
work
with
the
city
staff,
people
in
particular
pam
weinman
around
some
of
the
challenges
that
our
homeless
persons
are
facing
in
this
community.
So
thank
you.
B
Dranda,
thank
you
very
much
and
as
a
part
of
the
reassignment
of
our
our
work
for
the
council,
we
did
talk
about
that
and
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
councilmember
winston,
I
think
you
may
be
tackling
that
issue
within
one
of
your
committees,
based
on
our
reassignment
of
the
work
and
I'm
almost
certain
duronda
that
he
will
be
calling
on
you
and
always
always.
B
I
think
you
always
have
a
a
direct
link
with
miss
weidman
and
the
city
staff,
because
we
work
on
these
issues
each
and
every
day
with
you,
and
so
we
won't
lose
your
voice
on
on
that
on
that
topic,
and
certainly
mr
winston
is
more
than
a
worthy
advocate
through
his
committee
for
that
work.
Mr
lindsay,
I
just
want
to
again
thank
you
for
for
your
work.
We
look
forward
to
your
recommendations
next
week.
B
A
part
of
next
week's
work,
mrs
weiner,
will
be
just
maybe
a
summary
from
me.
I
mean
so
we
can
know
where
we
started
and
where
we
have
ended
our
work.
Also,
there
will
be
some
special
recognitions
from
me
to
each
and
every
one
of
you,
for
I
mean
really
pitting
the
service
and
community
over
the
last
12
weeks
on
your
ideas,
your
concept,
your
your
thoroughness
of
the
work
and
your
dedication
to
the
to
the
work
of
covet
19.
B
If
there's
not
any
other
questions
from
the
committee
opening
up
for
final
questions,
I'm
not
we
will
adjourn
and
then
we'll
reconvene
next
thursday.
We
will
hear
from
mr
lindsay.
We
will
finalize
our
work
and
then
we
will
give
each
and
every
task
force
member
the
appropriate.
Thank
you
on
next
week.
L
L
I
think
these
task
force
have
shown
us
something
as
a
council,
so
that
would
just
be
a
a
question
or
maybe
a
suggestion
that
the
council
can
think
about
and
also
next
week
are
we
going
to
look
at
the
entire
housing
framework
and
kind
of
summarize
where
we
are
like
particular
items.
I
know
we've
received
some
comments
and
some
suggestions
from
the
one
mec.
B
I
can't
speak
for
the
mayor
of
the
council,
but
I
think
the
I.
I
think
the
council
would
want
to
keep
it
to
the
council,
but,
as
always,
there's
always
input
at
every
council
committee
meeting
for
the
public
to
come
before
it
and
provide
comments,
and
so
I
think
the
framework
I
think
next
week
what
I'll
try
to
do
miss
johnson
and
I'll
work
with
miss
weidman
to
kind
of
summarize
the
work
of
the
committee,
the
task
force
and
then
kind
of
provide
the
appropriate
handoff
to
the
great
neighborhood
committee.
D
Thank
you.
I
just
had
one
question:
miss
metz
had
mentioned
a
potential
presentation
around
homelessness
to
the
committee,
and
I
know
that
does
particularly
around
the
displacement
of
homeless,
tents
and
city.
I
mean
excuse
me
camps.
I
was
wondering
if
it
was
going
to
touch
that,
because
that
is
specifically
covid
related
just
wondering.
I
know
we
have
talked
about
it
at
the
beginning
of
this
task
force,
but
was
wondering
where
that
conversation
was
potentially
going
and
if
we
can
have
it.
I
Yeah,
so
our
coc
group
and
some
folks,
I
have
been
working
with
to
prepare
for
a
presentation
in
august,
we'll
still
keep
talking,
because
it
just
wasn't
for
a
presentation
right.
It
was
for
us
to
come
up
with
some
solutions,
and
it
did
include
those
folks
in
the
tent.
So
if
there's
no
place
on
the
agenda
to
have
it,
we're
definitely
welcome
to
talk
with
you
about
it.
One
on
one.
K
So
miss
mess,
thank
you,
and
I
appreciate
always
the
opportunity
to
work
and
talk
to
you
and
brainstorm
with
you
about
that
it.
We
will
you
and
I
had
some
initial
conversation
as
we
were
preparing
for
this
topic
within
the
task
force,
so
I
will
commit
to
following
up
with
you
after
this
meeting
and
figuring
out
how,
if
nothing
else,
maybe
we
can
do
an
overview
of
at
least
what
we
were
talking
about
within
next
week's
meeting.
K
B
And
then,
mr
winston,
I
think
the
the
handoff
based
on
the
meeting
we
had
yesterday
to
the
mayor
from
correct
is
is
to
you
and
your
intergovernmental
relations
because
of
the
the
social
service
aspect,
working
with
mecklenburg,
county
and
other
another.
So
it
can
be
really
a
tea
out
for
you
to
kind
of
kind
of
give
it
to
you.