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From YouTube: Introduction to Non-profit Bylaws
Description
HOA bylaws govern how an HOA operates. Bylaws set out clear roles and responsibilities that can help to address concerns or settle disputes within the organization. It is important that organizations have a clear understanding of their bylaws and refer to them regularly. In this presentation, we will help to demystify bylaws and discuss how to make them work for your organization.
Topics include:
- Understanding the relationship of bylaws to the articles of incorporation
- Learning how to deal with ex officio directors, term limits and board committees
- Learning the critical issues in removal clauses
- Updating bylaws
A
A
You
are
here
for
another
workshop
in
our
hoa
series
and
it
is
introduction
to
non-profit
bylaws
so
tonight,
once
again,
we're
joined
by
rocky
kavanaugh
and
rocky
is
an
attorney
with
charlotte
based
firm
hull
and
chandler.
So
we
definitely
appreciate
rocky
being
here
tonight,
just
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping.
A
So
if
you
have
a
question
that
you'd
like
to
ask,
you
can
type
it
in
the
question
and
answer
field
and
we'll
get
to
that
at
the
end
of
the
chat
or
we
might
you
know
do
a
couple
of
questions
in
between
just
depends
on
how
rocky's
feeling
tonight-
and
we
are
definitely
recording
this
session,
so
this
session
will
be
available
to
you
all
in
about
two
weeks
on
our
training
on
demand
page
and
as
I
stated,
this
is
about
the
third
time
that
rocky
is
joining
us.
A
B
Hey
everybody
well
welcome
again,
if
you've,
if
this
is
your
first
time
or
you're,
been
here
with
one
of
our
workshops
before
anyway.
First
of
all,
congratulations
to
all
of
you
for
showing
up
at
6
p.m.
B
On
a
wednesday,
because
that
just
shows
you
really
want
to
learn
something
today,
and
so
I'm
I'm
very
privileged
to
be
able
to
provide
you
some
some
information
today,
and
so
today's
topic
again
is
going
to
be
the
introduction
to
non-profit
bylaws,
and
so,
when
I
say
non-profit
that
applies
to
if
you're,
with
a
neighborhood
association
and
you
incorporate
as
a
non-profit
or
if
you're,
with
a
homeowner
association
and
you've
incorporated
with
a
non-profit
under
the
north
carolina
law.
If
you've
incorporated
a
nonprofit,
you
have
to
have
bylaws.
B
B
Please
contact
an
attorney
licensed
in
your
jurisdiction
for
any
legal
advice
that
you
may
need.
That
being
said,
you
know
I
am
going
to
put
my
old
law,
professor
hat
on,
and
so
at
any
time
you
have
any
questions
feel
free
to
you
know,
raise
your
hand
into
chat
or
or
something
of
the
nature
and
we'll
get
to
you,
and
definitely,
if
you
have
questions,
obviously
we'll
have
a
q
a
period
at
the
end
of
the
the
presentation
as
well.
B
Some
assumptions
of
this
train
again,
I
I
don't
know
where
everybody's
organization
is
in
the
pipeline,
and
so
this
is
kind
of
a
generalized
training.
So
I'm
making
the
assumption
that
all
the
groups
who
are
in
this
training
are
members
of
north
carolina
non-profits
that
were
organized
pursuant
to
the
north.
Carolina
non-profit
corporation
act
ncgs
55a.
B
B
B
Additional
assumptions
of
this
training
is
we're
going
to
be
talking
solely
about
bylaws
for
a
non-profit
corporation,
so
you
could
be
a
neighborhood
association
that
is
involved
in
this
training
or
you
could
be
a
homeowner
association
again
if
you
are
registered
with
the
state
as
a
north
carolina
not-for-profit
corporation,
you
have
articles
incorporation,
you
have
to
have
bylaws
now
we
did
have
a
couple
months
ago,
and
michelle
alluded
to
this-
that
we
had
discussion
about
homeowner
associations
and
the
topic
of
covenants
conditions
and
restrictions
did
come
up.
B
These
are
ccrs
now
homeowner
associations,
bylaws,
are
a
separate
document
aside
from
ccrs
and
ccr's,
and
if
that
is
a
topic
that
we
need
to
do
a
deeper
dive
into,
then
please
let
you
know
the
city
know
that,
but
here
you
know
we're
talking
mostly
about
bylaws.
If
you
are
a
member
of
a
neighborhood
association,
you
may
never
have
even
heard
of
ccr's,
and
so
you,
your
organization,
will
not
be
subject
to
them.
B
One
bit
of
advice
is
that
covenants
conditions
restrictions
if
you've
ever
seen
them
very
dense
documents,
they're
a
little
bit
more
legalistic
than
bylaws.
So
again,
these
are
separate
documents
that
that
that
well
for
a
homeowner
association
would
have
to
deal
with
again.
Not
neighborhood
associations
would
only
be
dealing
with
bylaws
and
hoa
would
be
dealing
with
both
bylaws
and
ccrs
again
bylaws.
They
do
not
require
the
so
the
ccr's
are
more
legalistic.
They
do
need
to
be
recorded
in
the
in
the
public
records,
typically
with
the
county
registered
deeds
again.
B
If
your
homeowner
association
needs
assistance
with
modifying
its
ccr's
or
enforcing
its
ccr's,
it's
highly
recommended
that
you
see
competent
legal
counsel
as
changing
your
ccr's
or
playing
around
with
the
ccr's.
It's
not
quite
as
diy,
or
do
it
yourself
as
amending
your
corporate
bylaws,
and
so
today's
topic
is
okay.
So
I
see
something
in
the
chat
here.
I
would
love
to
know
if
there
will
be
a
workshop
on
ccr's
in
a
very
neat
feature.
B
I'd
be
well,
that's
something
that
we
could
talk
about
michelle
so
but
today's
bylaws,
maybe
maybe
the
next
one-
will
be
cecr's
so
so
there's
hold
on.
B
Some
people
call
them
operating
agreement,
whatever
name
you
call
it.
This
law
is
going
to
apply
to
it,
and
so
the
bylaws
are
your
constitution.
It's
going
to
tell
you
how
to
actually
run
your
hoa.
It's
going
to
tell
you
how
to
run
your
neighborhood
association
and
again,
the
if
you
are
registered
and
again,
if
you're,
an
hoa
you
had
to
after
1997,
or
so
you
had
to
register
as
a
north,
carolina
non-profit.
So
this
law
does
apply
to
any
hoa.
B
That's
in
here
it
may
or
may
not
apply
to
the
neighborhood
associations,
with
the
idea
that,
if
your
neighborhood
association
did
you
actually
incorporate
with
the
state,
because
a
lot
of
neighborhood
associations
are
not
don't
have
any
paper
on
them,
and
so
a
different
law
would
apply
to
you
again,
as
you
can
see
here
in
the
second
bullet
point,
this
law
states
that
incorporators
or
the
board
of
directors
shall
so
that
means
shall
means
you
have
to
do
it
initial
bylaws
for
the
corporation,
so
you
have
to
have
bylaws
and
so
again
this
is
this.
B
This
training
is
going
to
help
you
deal
with
and
manage
a
requirement
that
you
have
to
have
as
a
north
korean
non-profit.
It
does
state
that
nonprofit
bylaws
may
contain
any
provision
for
regulating
and
managing
the
affairs
of
the
corporation.
That
is
not
inconsistent
with
the
law
or
the
articles
that
incorporate
what
does
that
actually
mean?
B
It
basically
says
if
you
can
adopt
bylaws,
you
can
more
or
less
put
anything
in
those
bylaws
as
long
as
they're,
not
inconsistent
with
whatever
is
written
in
your
articles
of
incorporation
and
we'll
talk
about
those
in
a
second
or
with
north
carolina
law
in
general.
So,
hopefully,
you'll
get
some
ideas
about
what
north
carolina
law
has
to
say
about
certain
things
you
can
put
in
your
bylaws
and,
of
course
you
need
a
copy
of
your
articles.
B
Incorporation
to
match
them
up
against
whatever
is
in
your
bylaws
and
make
sure
your
bios
aren't
inconsistent
with
your
articles,
incorporation,
so
articles
incorporation.
So
this
is
the
birth
certificate
of
your
incorporated
non-profit
in
north
carolina.
It's
filed
with
the
secretary
of
state
and
the
filing
fee
is
60
bucks.
If
you
do
not
have
a
copy
of
your
articles
of
incorporation-
and
you
know
that
you're
an
incorporated
in
entity
in
the
state
of
north
carolina,
you
can
find
a
pdf
version
uploaded
on
the
north
carolina
secretary
of
state's
division
of
corporations
website
for
free.
B
That's
the
nice
thing
about
this
state
is
that
you
don't
have
to
pay
now.
You
know
when
I
do
work
in
south
carolina
and
I
have
to
get
corporate
documents
from
the
secretary
of
state.
It
cost
me
a
dollar
a
page.
So,
and
sometimes
you
know
it's-
I
mean.
B
Maybe
it's
five
bucks
or
something
like
that,
but
it's
annoying,
whereas
our
state
is
wonderful
and
allows
any
citizen
to
access
the
corporate
records,
particularly
articles
of
incorporation
or
any
corporate
filings
of
any
organization,
whether
it
be
a
corporation,
a
limited
liability
company
or
a
non-profit
corporation
in
the
state.
So
that's
some
tax
money
well
spent.
I
think
for
us
more
on
articles
and
corporation.
B
This
is
the
controlling
document
of
your
nonprofit.
So
the
reason
why
I
said
that
you
need
to
get
your
articles
in
corporation
and
you
need
to
match
them
up
against
your
bylaws,
because
if
your
article
corporation
say
something
and
your
bylaws
say
something
different,
your
articles
trump,
your
bylaws.
Now
you
can
always
amend
your
articles,
but
it's
going
to
cost
you
like
15
dollars.
I
think
to
do
it
at
any
time.
You
amend
the
articles
and
corporation,
it
doesn't
cost
you
a
dime
to
mend
your
bylaws
as
well.
B
So
another
thing
about
articles-
incorporation
just
know
that
if
you
aren't
incorporated
already
and
you're
thinking
about
incorporating
your
neighborhood
association
in
particular
just
know
that
the
secretary
of
state
will
not
allow
you
to
name
your
organization,
something
similar
to
an
organization
that
already
exists
or
the
same
name
now
for
neighborhood
associations.
You
know
there
might
very
well
be,
I
don't
know
like
westwood
neighborhood
association,
some
name
like
that.
B
You
know
there
there
might
be
names
in
other
neighborhoods
in
the
state
of
north
carolina
are
very
similar
or
the
same
as
your
neighborhood.
So
that
could
be
an
issue.
So
sometimes
you
want
to
be
the
first
in
line
to
get
it
incorporated
before
some
other.
You
know
enderly
park
or
something
well.
B
Actually,
my
law
school
clinic
incorporated
the
anderley
park,
neighborhood
association,
so
I
know
that
that
one's
already
taken
and
again,
if
you
are
a
neighborhood
association
in
particular,
if
you
want
to
apply
for
501
c
3
obsessed
with
irs,
your
bylaws
must
your
are.
B
Actually,
I
meant
your
articles
need
to
have
the
magic
language
that
the
irs
states
that
has
to
be
in
your
articles
and
again,
but
for
if
you're,
a
homeowner
association
it'd
be
very
difficult
because
of
what
501c3
states
to
become
a
tax-exempt
entity,
because
it
usually
has
to
be
like
a
charitable
or
an
educational
or
a
public
purpose
and
homeowner
associations
by
definition,
are
not
public
bodies
they're.
B
Basically
private
governments,
for
you
know
neighborhoods,
private,
neighborhood,
governments
and
again,
if
you
are
filing
your
articles
in
corporation
you're,
going
to
have
to
choose
between
being
a
membership
non-profit
and
a
non-membership
nonprofit.
So
I
will
say
this
that
if
you're
wondering
and
some
of
the
discussion
that
we'll
have
about
membership
and
non-membership,
you
should
get
a
copy
of
your
articles
to
ensure
whether
you're,
a
membership
or
a
non-membership
non-profit,
because
a
lot
of
what
we
talk
about
here
will
apply
to
that.
B
So
again,
if
you
don't
have
a
copy
or
articles
after
you
know,
this
presentation,
google
go
to
this
north
carolina
secretary
of
state's
website
and
look
for
just
sometimes
I
use
business
entity
search
and
it'll
come
up.
B
You
can
look
up
the
name
of
your
hoa
or
your
neighborhood
association,
and
if
it
shows
up
there,
then
you
can
go,
click,
see
filings
and
then
it'll
come
in
a
pdf
and
you
can
print
that
out
or
save
it
to
your
desktop
for
to
determine
whether
you
are
truly
a
membership
or
a
non-membership
non-profit.
B
So
what
I
mean
by
adopt
that
means
that
you
put
out
a
draft
of
the
bylaws
and
your
board
of
directors
met
and
they
voted
on
it
and
they
approved
it
and
it
was
certified
by
typically
your
secretary
saying
these
bylaws
were
adopted
on
blankety
blank
date
also
just
know
that,
while
your
articles
in
corporation
do
have
to
be
filed
with
the
secretary
of
state,
there's
no
legal
requirement
for
you
to
file
your
bylaws
with
the
state.
B
Now
I
know
that
some
of
you
in
hoas,
you
know
that
your
ccr's
are
regs,
are
recorded
with
the
county
register
of
deeds.
But
bylaws
are
very
much
and
that's
why
I
said
it's
easier
to
amend,
bylaws
and
very
diy
manner.
Is
that
bylaws
are
an
in-house
document.
You
do
not
have
to
show
anybody,
your
bylaws,
you
don't
have
to
send
them
to
raleigh.
You
don't
have
to
do
anything
of
that
nature,
but
you
do
need
to
follow
them
after
you've
adopted
them.
B
So
why
are
they
important
because
bylaws
establish
rules
on
who
controls
the
nonprofit?
So
if
you
wonder
who
gets
to
make
the
decisions,
you
look
in
the
bylaws
bylaws
spell
out
all
the
essential
relationships
of
your
non-profit
participants,
some
bylaws
views
and
don'ts.
So
trying
not
to
use
language.
That's
you
know
confusing
or
with
ambiguity.
B
Try
not
to
use
aspirational
language.
You
want
to
be
very
concrete.
So
if
you
know
if
you're
saying
how
many
members-
your
non-profit,
you
know,
you
know
how
many
members
of
the
board
of
directors
that
you
should
have
you
should
just
say-
I
just
have
a
good
number.
Well,
nobody
knows
what
a
good
number
is
you're
going
to
need
to
specify
no
more
than
three
you
know
or
no
less
than
three.
B
No
more
than
five
or
something
like
that
or
or
something
that's
more
concrete,
try
not
to
be
inconsistent,
don't
use
passive
tense,
don't
use
ambiguities
and
so
and
bylaws
again
are
are
private
law,
meaning
that
if
they
are
adopted
by
your
board
of
directors,
it
serves
almost
like
a
contract.
So
that's
the
private
law,
and
so,
if
you
don't
follow
your
bylaws
and
someone's
mad
about
it,
you
could
actually
go
to
court
and
have
it
enforced
as
part
of
a
contract.
So
this
is
you
know
this.
Is
these
this?
B
These
aren't
play
rules
with
the
non-profit
they're.
They
should
be
very
serious
and
I'll
show
you
where
it
usually
trips,
people
up
as
far
as
what
areas
of
bylaws
tend
to
get
litigated
more
than
than
others.
B
So
I
don't
have
a
set
bylaws
to
provide
you
and
again
you
can
almost
find
as
many
different
styles
of
bylaws
as
there
are.
You
know
non-profits
or
organizations
out
there,
but
what
I'm
going
to
go
over
right
now
are
kind
of
what
common
contents
of
bylaws
and
and
common
sections
and
typically
the
order
that
I
tend
to
see
them
happen.
B
B
If
you're
one
of
those
organizations
that's
trying
to
become
a
501c3
typically,
a
lot
of
neighborhood
associations
may
may
try
to
try
to
apply
for
tax
and
status.
You
know
you
should
have
that
language
from
your
articles
and
corporation
listed
in
your
purpose
section
if
you're
a
homeowner
association,
you
could
basically
have
something
very
standard
says
you
know.
The
blank
homer
association's
purpose
is
to
you
know,
regulate
the
affairs
of
the
blank.
You
know
homeowner
association.
B
It's
got
to
keep
it
simple
and
it
really
shouldn't
change
over
time.
Okay,
it's
a
good
question
here.
Do
you
recommend
rewrites
and
bylaws
be
reviewed
by
legal
counsel?
If
you
can,
if
you
can
access
legal
counsel
absolutely
again,
I,
while
it
is
easier
to
amend
bylaws
by
yourself,
because
there's
no
public
recordation
a
requirement.
B
You
know
you
just
you
definitely,
you
know
you
definitely
need
to
read
them,
it
doesn't
hurt.
You
know
to
have
counsel
to
to
review
it.
I
mean
you
may
be
able
to
work
out
a
deal
with
an
attorney
just
say
you
know
I
don't.
I
just
need
you
to
spend,
maybe
half
an
hour
or
an
hour
of
your
time,
just
to
review
it
and
just
give
me
some
feedback
on
what
needs
to
be
changed
or
something
like
that.
It
won't
it.
You
know,
depending
on
the
attorney
and
how
it's
structured
it.
B
You
know,
having
your
biology
may
not
necessarily
be
a
a
super,
expensive
endeavor
and
you
know
hope
you
know.
Sometimes
there
are
law
school
clinics.
Unfortunately,
we
don't
have
one
in
charlotte
anymore.
That
could
do
those
services
for
free
as
well,
and
so
so
that's
so,
but
again
you
know
it's.
I
think
that
bylaws
again,
you
know
they
can
be
they're
they're.
They
are
more
or
less
diy.
B
Among
you
know,
within
an
organization
because
it
it
while
it
is
very
good
to
have
you
know
legal
counsel,
review
it.
It's
not
something
that
you
know
it's
it's.
Basically,
among
the
group,
it's
among
the
directors,
it's
among
the
organization
to
determine
you
know
what
are
the
reasons
that
and
we'll
go
into
this.
Why
you
know
what
governs
your
the?
Why
and
how
right
so,
a
lawyer
can't
tell
you,
you
know
how
you
should
do
something
or
why
you
should
do
something.
B
They
can
tell
you
what
is
legal,
you
know
and
what
you
know.
What
will
fly
and,
like
I
said
earlier,
basically,
north
carolina
law
on
bylaws
basically
said
as
long
as
it's
not
what
inconsistent
with
your
articles
of
incorporation
and
it
goes
against
north
carolina
law,
and
I'm
going
to
tell
you
I'll,
show
you
some
areas
here
of
north
carolina,
north
non-profit
law,
that
that
kind
of
can
kind
of
give
you
an
idea
of
what
you
know
where
you
can
go
with
some
of
the
clauses
in
your
bylaws.
B
So
after
that,
usually
there's
an
offices
section
which
basically
is
like
where,
where
are
you
located
right?
So
what
I
see
a
lot
is
sometimes
they'll
just
say:
the
registered
office
of
the
nonprofit
shall
be
at
whatever
location
in
north
carolina.
The
director
shall
determine
from
time
to
time.
B
Well,
my
one
main
tip
is
that
and
again
this
is
probably
not
going
to
apply
to
hoas
or
or
or
neighborhood
associations
that,
if
you
change
your
nonprofit's
office
or
mailing
address,
you
should
update
that
information
with
the
north
clinic
secretary
of
state
within
30
days
again
most
of
your
location-based
organizations,
you're
you're
you're,
not
really
moving
anywhere,
but
if
you're
you
know
a
non-profit
that
you
know
is
moving
across
town
or
something
like
that
or
move
to
another
state.
For
that
matter,
you
need
to
update
the
secretary
of
state.
B
So
remember
I
talked
about
going
back
to
your
articles
of
incorporation
and
just
determining
whether
you're,
a
member
or
a
non-member
non-profit,
and
the
reason
why
I
say
that's
really
important
is
that
there's
not
a
lot
of
folks
will
just
pick
one
without
knowing
the
difference
between
membership,
non-profit
or
non-membership.
Non-Profit,
when
they,
when
they
file
their
articles
of
incorporation,
it's
just
because
there
is,
it
is
something
that
you
have
to
choose
and
a
lot
of
times
you
just
choose
whatever
sounds
good
to
you
and
it
may
not
necessarily
work
for
your
organization.
B
Now
you
should
have
a
members
section
in
your
bylaws
if
you
choose
membership
nonprofit.
So
if
you
look
at
your
articles
and
it
says
membership,
then
you
should
have
a
member
section.
If
it
says
that
you
are
a
non-membership,
then
you
could
have
a
membership
section.
That's
very
short
that
basically
says
members
and
underneath
this
nonprofit
does
not
have
members.
B
So
that
would
be
very
simple.
Let's
see
another
question
here:
okay,
so
can
bylaws
be
changed
by
a
board
to
remove
voting
rights
for
members.
So
so
I
see
so
you're
talking
about
you're.
Maybe
I
know
maybe
hopefully
I'm
clarifying
this.
B
You
may
be
thinking
that
we're
a
membership
organization,
but
we
want
to
be
a
non-membership
organization,
because
sometimes
people
just
choose
the
wrong
type
of
organization
to
do
that,
if
you're
looking
to
kind
of
maybe
it's
harder
to
have
membership
meetings
and
such
and
I'll
talk
about
membership
meetings
and
and
and
things
of
that
nature
going
forward,
you
know,
unfortunately,
the
best
way.
B
The
only
way
you
can
do
that
is
to
amend
your
articles
of
incorporation
and
and
and
change
the
language
of
saying
that
if
your
articles
and
corporations
say
this
non-profit
is
a
membership
nonprofit,
you
amended
to
say
this:
nonprofit
is
a
non-membership
non-profit.
B
B
So
again,
if
you
have
your
articles
in
corporation
and
you're,
currently
a
membership
nonprofit,
then
you're
going
to
have
to
operate
unless
you
can
amend
it
as
a
membership.
Now
it's
not
the
end
of
the
world,
you
know
if
you're
a
membership
non-profit,
you
know,
because
again
most
of
you
are
neighborhood
associations
or
homeowner
associations.
You
probably
have
folks,
who
probably
would
want
to
be
members
just
know
that
the
best
way
to
think
of
a
membership
nonprofit
is
that
members
are
sort
of
analogous
to
shareholders
but
of
course,
north
carolina
non-profits.
They
can't
issue
stock.
B
So
so,
if
you
think
about
it,
you
know
it's
it's.
These
are
you
know,
members
have
certain
rights
in
the
nonprofit
and
typically
those
rights
would
include
under
law.
If
you
chose
now
here's
the
thing,
if
you
look
at
your
articles
and
you
chose
membership
non-profit,
then
anyone
who
is
determined
to
be
a
member
would
have
rights
such
as
to
vote
on
who
are
directors
of
the
board.
I
mean
boarding
yeah
the
directors
on
the
board
under
the
law.
B
They
also
have
rights
to
access
or
request
certain
documents
of
the
non-profit,
whether
they
be
financial
documents
or
other
corporate
governance
documents.
So
it
is,
you
know.
Whenever
I'm
working
with
a
client
group,
I
advise
them
about
what
the
pros
and
cons
of
choosing
membership
or
non-membership
is.
B
When
you
choose
your
what
type
of
organization
you
have
now
here's
one
thing,
though,
if
you
are
a
membership
organization,
and
you
might
feel
frustrated
that
it's
hard
to
kind
of
get
as
many
people
into
your
meeting
just
know
that,
while
yes,
typically
quorum
requirements
are
50
plus
one.
That's
usually
like
you
know,
a
little
over
half
the
north
carolina
law
does
allow
your
organization,
if
you
are
a
membership,
nonprofit
to
set
the
quorum
as
low
as
10
percent.
B
So
if
you
have
a
hundred
members,
you
could
set
quorum
at
10
members
to
meet
to
do
business.
It
is
best
to
put
this
threshold
in
your
bylaws,
but
if
you
don't
have
any
language
about
what
quorum
should
be,
then
again
remember
the
default
rules
say
you
could
go
as
low
as
as
ten
percent,
but
you
could
try
to
convince
your
membership
or
you
could
you,
whatever
your
bylaws,
say
about
how
to
amend
your
bylaws
based
on
the
law?
You
could
go
as
low
as
10
percent
of
your
membership
to
do
business
again.
B
B
B
I
know
that
sometimes
it's
like
well,
we
have
our
neighborhood
organization
and
we
have
these
membership
meetings
and
they're
a
lot
more
often
than
once
a
year.
And
you
know
you
could
you
could
you
could
do
it
that
way
as
well?
B
But
if
you
are
going
to
do
that
for
your
members
and
for
your
board
and
we'll
get
to
the
board
in
a
second
make
sure
that
you,
you
state
that
in
your
bylaws,
also
with
your
members
section,
you
should
set
out
the
criteria
for
who
can
be
actually
become
a
member
and
how
they
can
become
a
member.
B
If
you
have
membership
fees,
you
should
state
that
members
will
pay
a
fee,
but
if
you
say
that
fees,
what
you
could
say,
the
fees
are
just
going
to
be
determined
by
the
board
from
time
to
time.
So
you
don't
state
something
in
your
bylaws
and
have
to
change
it
every
time
you
change,
you
know
the
fees
also,
you
should
have
language.
That
explains
how
members
can
be
expelled
from
the
non-profit.
So
you
know
failure
to
pay
dues
if
dues
are
required
or
failure
to
meet.
B
When
I
don't
have
a
failure
to
attend
meetings
could
be
a
reason,
but
you
want
to
have
it
in
your
bylaws
or
why
a
member
could
be
terminated
why
they
why
their
term
could
be
terminated
if
a
member
moves
out
of
the
neighborhood,
if
you're
a
neighborhood
association
membership
could
terminate.
But
you
got
to
have
that
in
your
bylaws
all
right,
so
that
was
a
membership
nonprofit.
B
You
know,
and
those
are
we're
talking
about
members
now
all
non-profits,
whether
you're
a
membership
or
a
non-membership
nonprofit,
you
have
to
have
a
board
of
directors,
so
north
carolina
law
does
require
that
non-profits
registered
under
that
act
have
a
board
of
directors
now
in
north
carolina.
The
law
is
that
you
have
to
have
at
least
one
person
to
constitute
a
board
of
directors.
B
B
All
right
can
established
bylaws
be
changed
without
membership
vote
approval.
Well,
it
depends
on
whether
you're
a
membership
or
a
non-membership
non-profit.
If
you
are
a
membership
non-profit,
you
gotta.
Well
again,
you
know
it
goes
back
to
the
bylaws
and
you
have
to
look
and
see
if
you
can
change
a
change
to
buy
who
who
can
change
the
bylaws?
B
If
you
have
language
in
your
bylaws,
if
you
don't
have
that
language,
you
got
to
look
back
at
you
know
the
you
got
to
look
back
at
the
law
55a
and
see
where
it
says:
membership
and
the
right
to
amend,
amend
to
buy
laws.
So
I
do
think
that
you
know
the
best
way
to
go
about.
It
is
to
try
to
get
you
know
your
members
to
meet
and
to
agree
to
a
change
in
in
the
bylaws.
B
If
you
are
a
membership
non-profit,
and
you
know,
I
think
that
if
you
are
again,
if
you,
if
you're
it's
harder
doing
business,
it's
better
to
try
to
go
to
the
source
of
it
and
change
the
articles
and
just
become
a
non-membership
if
you're
having
a
lot
of
trouble,
getting
all
your
members
together
for
meetings
and
such
but
yeah
just
know
that
you
don't
have
to
be
a
north
carolina
resident
to
be
a
director.
But
you
know
obviously
put
that
in
your
bylaws.
B
Let's
continue
here
and
so
director
section
of
your
bylaws
you're,
going
to
state
out
all
the
powers
just
know
that
the
business
and
affairs
of
nonprofit
shall
be
managed
by
the
board
of
directors.
That's
all
you
need
to
kind
of
say:
maybe
you
have
some
qualifications
for
being
a
director,
so
the
qualifications
for
being
a
director
could
be
very
different
than
the
qualification
being
a
member
right.
B
B
The
less
number
of
members
you
have
generally
the
more
efficient
your
board
of
directors
is
the
more
members
you
have.
You
know
particularly
start
getting
to
the
double
digits,
the
more
you're
going
to
have
to
rely
upon
things
such
as,
like
an
executive
committee
to
do
business
I'll
talk
about
committees
in
another
section
coming
up,
so
other
things
you
might
want
to
do
with
a
director
section
is
have
a
space
for
ex-officio
directors.
These
are
folks
who
can
attend
board
of
director
meetings,
but
they
usually
don't
have
voting
rights.
B
B
Sometimes
you
know,
maybe
a
neighborhood
association
may
allow
an
ex-officio
position
for
the
city
council
person
for
that
region
or
the
mayor
or
someone
like
that
to
have
a
seat,
but
usually
they
don't
allow
them
to
have
voting
powers.
B
You
should
always
have
language
on
how
to
remove
a
director.
I
know
these
are,
and
this
is
usually
the
area
where
I've
seen
the
actual
litigation
happen
is
when
the
board
moves
to
remove
a
director
and
the
director
says
it
went
against
the
bylaws
or
to
win
against
north
carolina
law.
So
just
know
that
again,
the
law
does
require
all
non-profits
to
keep
corporate
records
such
as
corporate
minutes.
So
if
you
knew
you
do
remove
somebody,
you
need
to
make
sure
that
the
decision
to
remove
them
is
recorded
in
your
minutes.
B
You
didn't
just
go
up
to
somebody
and
say
you've
been
dismissed.
You
need
to
have
records
of
their
dismissal
in
in
the
corporate
minutes.
Removing
a
director
again
is
one
of
the
areas
that
breeds
the
most
litigation,
and
so
when
people
are
really
wedded
to
their
director
seat
and
the
board
decides
to
remove
them
and
they
don't
like
it,
and
maybe
you
didn't,
follow
certain
procedures,
that's
an
opportunity
for
them
to
lawyer
up
and
make
make
waves
and
cause
some
grief
with
the
organization.
B
Now,
if
you
are
unsure
whether
the
removal
section
is
clear
enough,
you
should
consult
with
legal
counsel
to
review
or
provide
clear
language
to
avoid
problems
in
the
future.
When
you
do
have
to
remove
a
director,
you
know
I
mean
there
are
times
when
you
remove,
remember
you
know.
Sometimes
they
you
know
they
might,
but
I
think
that
times
I
have
seen
any
kind
of
real
people
getting
upset
is
when
you
remove.
B
You
know
somebody
from
the
board
of
directors
and
not
all
the
time,
a
lot
of
times,
they'll
just
leave,
but
it
that's
where
you
definitely
they
start
clutching
the
bylaws
and
saying
this
wasn't
I
didn't
get
noticed.
I
didn't
get.
You
know
this,
that
or
the
other,
and
they
they
basically
make
life.
B
They
cause
some
grief
to
your
organization.
So
definitely
removal
of
directors
is
one
area.
You
need
to
examine
very
well
make
sure
you
have
clear
language
to
that
regard.
You
know
unanimous
consent.
This
is
another
thing
that
would
be
good
to
have
in
your
bylaws
under
particularly
for
director
meetings
is
that
you
should
have
a
section
that
a
live
meeting
is
not
required
if
notice
of
corporate
action
and
resolution
for
such
corporate
action
is
signed
by
all
of
the
directors.
So
this
is
a
technique.
B
You
should
have
it
in
your
bylaws,
unanimous
consent.
Maybe
you've
got
folks
all
over
town,
you,
you
can't
get
them
on
a
zoom.
Although
united
less
of
an
issue
now
that
we
have
things
like
zoom,
but
let's
say
that
you
have
some
people
who
don't
have
internet
access
or
just
don't
like
the
internet,
you
can
write,
you
can
have
a
piece
of
paper
and
it
just
say
unanimous
consent
and
you
can
write
down
the
resolution.
B
Let's
just
say
that
it's
a
a
resolution
to
to
remove
somebody
right
that
that
you
need
to
remove.
But
people
just
couldn't
me.
You
need
to
have
all
of
the
directors,
except
obviously
the
person
who's
getting
removed
to
sign
it
right.
So
you
can
that's
that's
what
they
call
unanimous
consent,
but
you
have
to
have
everybody.
B
If
you
don't
have
everybody,
then
you
have
to
have
a
live
meeting,
and
that's
why
I
say
it's
really
good
to
have
stuff
like
zoom
or
conference
call
or
both
written
into
your
bylaws,
so
you're
not
left
to
having
to
do
the
unanimous
consent
thing
or
or
trying
to
struggle
to
have
a
live
meeting
with
people.
B
Just
also
know
that
under
north
carolina
law,
the
board
of
directors
can
hold
both
either
regular
meetings.
That,
sometimes
you
know,
a
lot
of
groups
will
say
every
third
thursday
of
the
month,
we'll
have
a
general
board
meeting
and
that's
a
general
meeting
or
special
meetings,
and
you
can
do
this
inside
or
outside
in
north
carolina.
So
if
you
had
to
go
to
south
carolina,
one
reason
for
a
meeting,
you
could
many
non-profits
go
to
vacation
somewhere
and
have
their
have
their
board
meetings
in
some
kind
of
very
nice
place.
B
That's
what
got
cardinal
innovations
in
trouble.
If
you
remember
following
the
news
about
that
non-profit
having
their
board
of
directors
meetings
in
vail
colorado,
you
should
also
state
your
bylaws
who
is
authorized
to
call
the
meetings
of
the
board
director.
So
typically
it's
the
chair
or
the
president,
or
sometimes
the
majority
of
directors,
can
be
authorized
to
call
a
meeting
whether
it's
a
regular
or
a
special
okay.
I
see
a
question
in
the
chat.
Is
zoom
meeting
considered
a
live
meeting
yeah?
B
It
can
be
yes,
if
your
bylaws
state
that
you
have
to
meet
you
meetings
of
it
can
be
live
in
person
at
the
place.
The
principal
office
of
the
corporation
or
by
you
know,
modes
like
zoom
or
conference,
call
where
everyone
can
hear
the
each
other.
No
zoom
has
changed
a
lot
of
things
and
has
made
it
possible,
but
you
want
to
make
sure
that
your
bylaws
specifically
say
that
zoom
counts
as
an
actual
regular
or
special
meeting
of
the
board.
Just
it's
just.
B
It
just
protects
you
because
again,
if
some
director
who
wasn't
on
the
zoom
and
says
I
wasn't
included-
and
I
feel
like
I
was
shut
out
and
starts
making
noise,
you
can
say
the
bylaws
say
number
one
zoom's
allowed
to
you
got
notice
of
the
meeting
and
we
gave
you
a
link
to
it.
So
you
know
you've
got
you
know
it's
like
you
have
harder.
B
You
have
less
of
a
leg
to
stand
on
if
you're
somehow
shut
out
of
a
of
a
zoom
meeting,
but
you
know
I
definitely
the
covid
has
made
you
know:
zoom
meetings
more
popular
for
boards
of
directors.
In
fact,
last
summer,
early
last
summer,
governor
cooper
put
out
an
executive
order
about
membership
meetings
and
saying
that,
even
if
your
non-profit
didn't
address
it
in
your
bylaws
that
for
a
period
of
90
days,
you
could
go
ahead
and
do
your
annual
membership
meeting
on
zoom.
That's
he.
B
He
allowed
that
for
a
good
chunk
of
time.
So,
but
that
also
just
gives
you
a
reason
to
amend
your
bylaws
to
just
just
put
zoom
all
over
that
place,
because
that
this
is
the
new
world
that
we're
in.
B
Let's
see,
I've
got
another
question
here.
Oh
I
see
will
the
recording
of
the
workshop
be
available.
I
believe
that
michelle
said
that
would
be,
I
think,
in
two
weeks
or
something
like
that.
So
definitely
that'll
be
available.
Oh
please
come
on
okay
officer
section.
So
after
you've
got
your
directors
you
sometimes
get
to
describe,
who
your
officers
are
and
really
officers
are
their
their.
Their
powers
are
kind
of
circumscribed
by
how
they're
described
in
a
bylaws.
B
So
you
typically
have
your
president,
your
vice
president,
your
treasurer,
your
secretary
and
usually
terms
for
officers
are
less
than
terms
for
a
director,
and
you
should
also
have
a
removal
section
on
how
to
remove
an
officer,
and
if
you
have
some
questions,
just
look
back
at
the
section
on
on
how
to
remove
directors
committees,
I
can't
stress
how
important
committees
are
to
to
nonprofits.
B
I
just
know
that
it's
an
it's
usually
an
optional
section.
North
carolina
law
does
not
require
a
non-profit
to
adopt
committee
work
or
to
adopt
committees,
but
I
do
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
have
a
section
that
at
least
just
states
this,
and
even
if
you're,
not
ready
to
have
committees.
You
can
say
from
time
to
time
the
board
of
directors
may
appoint
committees
to
support
the
operation,
the
board
of
directors.
B
That
gives
you
some
flexibility
on
whether
you
want
to
appoint
committees
or
not
just
know
that
if
you
want
committees,
you
should
name
them
and
try
to
describe
them
in
the
section.
If
you've
got
someone
in
mind,
you
should
also
determine,
in
your
committee
section
description
whether
you
want
non-board
members
to
serve
on
committees
and
whether
these
folks
can
vote
on
issues
before
those
committees.
B
So
some
non-profits,
you
know,
have
committees
and
they'll
bring
people
from
the
community
to
join
those
committees
and
again
the
executive
committee,
which
I
talked
about,
and
typically
with
an
executive
committee.
That's
when
your
board
usually
is
in
the
double
digits
is
when
you
start
to
see
more
use
of
executive
committees.
Executive
committees
are
typically
your
board
officers.
We're
talking
the
president
vice
president,
treasurer
and
secretary.
They
meet
in
between
the
general
board
meetings
and
can
take
official
corporate
action
if
something
needs
to
happen.
B
So
typically
here's
an
example
say,
for
instance,
your
your
organization
meets,
has
regular
meetings
every
month
on
the
third
thursday
of
the
month,
but
yeah
you've
had
your
meeting
on
the
third
thursday,
but
then
one
week
later,
a
very
important
matter
needs
to
be
brought
before
the
board
of
directors.
B
B
Just
say
that
you
know
make
sure
that
you
have
language
that
says
they
can't
fill
vacancies
or
adopt,
amend
or
repeal
the
bylaws
or
amend
or
repeal
an
existing
resolution
of
the
board,
because
you
don't
want
to
make
it
almost
a
dictatorship
of
the
executive
committee
and
that's
why
some
non-profit
commentators
have
argued
against
the
use
of
executive
committees
we
critically
in
the
world
of
zoom,
because
why
do
you
need
to
have
these
four
folks
make
a
decision
in
between
the
regular?
We
have
zoom,
we
get
everybody
together
and
bam.
B
We
can
make
a
decision
as
a
full
board
and
not
just
delegate
all
the
you
know
to
these
four.
You
know
individuals
in
the
executive
committee,
so
that's
that
that
there's
there's
some
back
and
forth
in
the
nonprofit
world
about
the
use
of
executive
committee,
so
I'm
not
gonna
say
which
one
I
100
percent
you
know
approve
of.
I
do
think
that,
if
you've
gotten
zoom
and
such
and
you've
got
an
engaged
board,
then
maybe
decision
should
come
before
the
full
board
and
less
on
the
executive
committee.
B
And
then,
of
course,
with
committees
just
determine
who
can
appoint
and
remove
frogs
from
committee,
one
of
the
more
popular
ways
and
it's
a
nice
perk
of
being
chair
or
president
of
the
board,
is
that
you
have
the
power
to
appoint
all
the
committees,
but
sometimes
you
have
it
where
it
just
means.
The
majority
of
the
board
of
directors
depends
on
how
much
how
you
want
to
do
that
advisory
boards
can
be
put
in
there
too
they're,
not
committees
per
se,
but
they
are
just
it's
a
good.
B
You
know
it's
a
good
group.
These
are
folks
that
and
people,
if
you
create
an
advisory
board,
usually
people
in
your
community
have
a
lot
of
good
ideas,
a
lot
of
stroke,
a
lot
of
just
influence,
but
they
don't
have
the
time
or
the
energy
to
serve
as
a
a
full-blown
board
member,
and
so
you
can
have
an
advisory
board
or
advisory
committee,
as
usually
they
put
them
at
the
end
of
the
committee.
B
Section
they're
not
really
a
committee
but
they're
just
sort
of
an
advisory
board,
and
I
know
that's:
what's
the
difference
between
an
advisory
board
and
a
committee,
I
think
committee
is
actually
a
lot
more,
have
a
lot
more
power
within
the
organization
to
actually
do
things,
whereas
advisory
board
is
really
just
there
to
advise.
B
So
that's
kind
of
the
major
differentiation
you
should
have
a
resignation
and
vacancy
section
in
it,
usually
most
non-profit
bylaws
state
that
resignations
just
happen
when
the
director
submits
their
resignation
to
either
the
secretary
of
the
chair
feeling
vacancies,
usually
when
you're
feeling
vacancies,
if
you're
in
a
in
a
membership
nonprofit,
usually
and
usually
in
the
language
you
can
change
this,
but
usually
the
directors
can
elect,
can
appoint
the
successor
for
the
term.
B
By
the
end
of
the
term,
then
the
members
choose
whether
that
person
gets
to
stay
on
in
a
non-membership,
non-profit,
a
board
driven
vacancies
are
filled
by
the
board.
So
if
somebody
leaves
the
board
usually
appoints
a
nomination
committee,
they
go
out
and
they
find
a
new
member,
and
then
they
vote
on
that
person,
meetings
and
notice.
B
Just
remember
notice
is
important
regarding
meetings,
so
how
you
give
notice
is
important,
because
that's
one
way
you
can
get
tripped
up
if
somebody
says
that
they
did
not
get
noticed.
I
will
say
that
you
should
have
a
section
that
says
waiver
of
notice,
which
basically
is
a
statement
in
your
bylaws
that
if
that
person
attends,
if
anyone
attends
it
and
they
didn't
receive
notice
by
you
attending
you
wave
notice
right.
So,
even
though
I
didn't
get
official
notice,
I
did
show
up,
and
so
I
don't.
B
You
know
that
if
I
raise
a
fuss
about
never
receiving
notice.
By
fact,
I
showed
up
at
the
meeting.
It
rules
it
invalid
that
my
my
you
know
my
my
objections
and
such
so
that
that's
one
way
to
kind
of
to
deal
with,
not
having
forgetting
to
give
notice
for
meetings.
B
So
I'm
not
going
to
go
super
deep
into
this.
Just
know
that
the
allotted
bylaws
and
sometimes
articles
themselves
will
have
liability
and
indemnification
sections.
B
The
my
biggest
tip
is
is
to
make
sure
that
you
have
directors
and
officers
insurance
in
place
that
covers
all
directors
who
serve
each
year
on
your
on
your
non-profit
board.
B
This
is
always
a
a
trick
section
in
a
set
of
bylaws,
and
usually
you
should
have
some
legal
counsel
review.
This
particular
section:
I
do
think
that
if
you
have
the
dno
insurance,
it
will
help
to
I
mean
you
should
definitely
have
a
section
in
your
bylaws,
but
you
know
the
thing
is
that
if
your
bylaw,
if
your
non-profit,
doesn't
have
money
to
defend
you,
then
where's
the
money
going
to
come
from.
B
Even
if
you
have
a
liability
indemnification
section,
that's
why
you
want
to
have
insurance
that
then
the
carrier
will
pay
for
the
defense
of
your
directors,
should
they
be
part
of
a
lawsuit
related
to
the
non-profits
activities.
So
that's
kind
of
nice
in
that
regard
all
right.
Man,
well,
that
that
kind
of
went
a
lot
faster
than
some
of
my
other
ones.
Here
I
mentioned
michelle's
like
wow,
we're
done
because
some
of
the
other
ones
man,
we
were
trucking
away,
but
this
is
a
perfect
time
to
take
some
questions.
B
So
if
you've
got
questions
about
anything
that
you've
seen
here,
just
go
ahead
and
ask
them:
should
the
insurance
cover
them
and
their
family
generally
speaking,
non-profits
will
cover.
You
know,
directors
and
officers.
Insurance
only
applies
to
the
directors
themselves,
while
they're
serving
the
non-profit
or
the
organization
or
any
other
officer.
So
if
you
had
say
a
ceo
or
an
executive
director,
it
may
cover
now.
If
you
have
employees.
I
know
this
is
going
a
little
bit
deeper
than
most
hoas.
Don't
have
employees
and
definitely
no
neighborhood
associations.
B
Don't
have
employees,
but
sometimes
they
pair
d,
o
insurance
with
employee
practices,
liability
insurance
and
that's
when
you
can
cover
acts
by
managers
and
others
download
down
the
chain
of
command,
but
directors
and
office
insurance
is
just
is,
is
is
there
if
again,
particularly
with
an
hoa
or
what
well
definitely
an
hoa?
B
You
know
you
it's
better
to
have
like
one
of
these
director
and
officers
insurance
policies
that
the
carrier
will
then
hire
an
attorney
to
defend
not
just
the
hoa
against
the
suit,
but
will
also
hire
an
attorney
to
defend
the
directors
themselves
to
get
them
out
of
the
lawsuit.
B
Let's
see
here,
articles
of
incorporation,
trump
bylaws,
where
do
the
ccrs
fall
so
so
ccrs
are
again.
This
is
for
definitely
for
all
of
you
who
are
in
homeowner
associations
the
ccr's,
the
articles
trump,
the
ccrs,
but
then
the
ccr's
will
trump
the
bylaws,
and
so
that's
I
know
it's
an
extra
wrinkle
for
those
of
you
who
are
in
homeowner
associations
than
those
of
you
or
neighborhood
associations,
but
articles
are
definitely
the
dominant
and
then
the
next
dominant
would
be
in
hoa
which
are
ccr's
again.
B
B
Let's
see
another
question
here:
what
route
could
a
member
take
if
their
neighborhood
association
board
is
not
holding
the
annual
meeting,
as
required
by
the
bylaws
state
law?
Wow?
Okay?
So
so
I
think
that
number
one
is
if
you've
got
a
neighborhood
association,
they
should
be
holding
an
annual
meeting,
and
you
know
again,
a
lot
of
that
runs
through
whoever
the
board
of
directors
are
now.
B
If
the
board
of
directors
isn't
doing
what
they're
supposed
to
do,
you're,
probably
wondering
well
who,
in
the
world
police's
non-profit
corporations
that
person
is
the
attorney
general
of
the
state
of
north
carolina?
I
know
it's,
you
would
think.
Well,
we
a
cop
or
some
judge
or
something.
No.
If
there
are,
if
someone
if
a
board
of
directors
is,
is
openly
violating
north
carolina
law
or
their
own
bylaws
you
can,
you
can
lodge
in.
B
You
can
lodge
a
complaint
with
the
attorney
general's
office
and
they
will
send
somebody
in
to
question
the
non-profit
to
find
out
whether
they
are
actually.
You
know.
We
got
a
complaint
that
you
are
failing
to
do
these
sort
of
things,
and
so
I
mean
that's
that's
kind
of
a
harsh
thing
to
do
to
snitch
on
the
non-profit,
though
so
I
mean
I
would
you
know.
B
Hopefully
you
know
the
best
way
to
do
it
is
to
is
maybe
they're
just
they
may
not
know
the
law
and
it
might
be
good
to
have
maybe
someone
from
the
city
or
somebody
to
explain
to
them.
You
know
that
that
they
need
to
follow
their
own
bylaws
or
they
need
to
follow
state
law
and
hold
an
annual
meeting.
But
that
would
be
definitely
going
to
attorney
general's
office
is
definitely
where
you
have.
B
You
know
you've,
given
them
every
single
chance,
but
my
advice
is:
maybe
they
just
don't
know
and
try
to
explain
things
to
them
about
why
they
need
to
have
an
annual
meeting,
and
maybe
someone
like
michelle
or
someone
could
just
come
in
there
and
tell
the
neighborhood
association
that
they
need
to
do
that
got
another
question
here:
our
hoa
has
voluntary
memberships
with
minimal
annual
dues.
Is
it
possible
to
make
the
annual
dues
mandatory
for
residents
of
the
prescribed
neighborhood?
Well,
so
hoa
stuff
is
a
little.
B
You
know
a
lot
of
that
power
for
hoas
to
to
set
fees
is
in
your
ccr's.
So
if
you're
truly
an
hoa
you've
got
ccr's,
you
should
definitely
review
the
ccr's
to
see
a
you
know.
B
How
does
the
board
set
the
fees,
because
you
know
I
mean
again
like
in
our
in
our
presentation?
If
you
want
to
go
back
to
and
if
you
weren't
here
for
the
hoa
presentation,
it
should
be
uploaded,
but
we
do
talk
about
how
you
know.
Boards
of
directors
with
homeowner
associations
are
charged
with
having
to
take
care
of
all
kinds
of
stuff
like
roads
and
and
or
you
know,
just
the
lights
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
you
have
to
charge
people
money
to
be
able
to
do
that.
Now.
B
I
do
notice
in
your
question.
You
said
that
voluntary
memberships
with
minimum
annual
dues
is
it
possible
to
make
the
annual
dues
mandatory.
It
is
possible,
but
again
you've
got
to
you
know.
You've
got
to
get
people
to
sign
on
to
to
adopt
it.
You
know
adopt
them
again.
I
would
probably
need
more
information
about
whether
you've
got
ccrs
in
your
in
your
hoa
or
not
because
it's
a
voluntary
memberships
and
usually
hoas
aren't
really
fans
of
voluntary
memberships.
B
B
Okay,
it's
got
another
question
here
who
usually
holds
all
the
documents,
the
ccr
articles
and
bylaws.
Is
it
the
property
management
company?
Well,
they
should,
if
they're
doing
their
job
correctly,
but
really
the
who
should
hold.
It
is
definitely
the
board
of
directors
of
the
hoa.
But
if
you
are
having
trouble,
locating
those
things
and
number
one,
if
you
have
a
property
management
company,
they
should
have
that
on
them.
That
that's
that's!
B
That's
there's
not
a
there's,
no
licensing
for
property
management,
but
if
they
don't
have
that
for
you,
then
you
should
find
a
new
property
management
company.
But
if
you
want
to
track
down
your
ccr's,
those
are
in
the
public
record,
just
go
to
your
county
register
deeds
and
just
tell
them
the
hoa
that
you
know
what
a
location
is.
B
Maybe
the
street
address
or
something
like
that,
and
they
can
pull
those
up
articles
you
can
find
online
bylaws
again
are
an
in-house
document,
so
either
your
board
has
a
copy
of
it
or
your
property
management
company
has
a
copy
of
nobody
has
a
copy
of
it.
Then
that
might
be
a
reason
to
draft
and
se
and
adopt
new
bylaws.
But
you
got
to
make
sure
that
you
totally
lost
the
bylaws.
B
What
are
the
steps
that
an
hoa
has
to
take
to
change
their
bylaws?
You
gotta
look
in
your
bylaws
right
because
there
should
be
hopefully
a
a
a
section
in
your
hoa
bylaws
that
state.
How
do
you
amend
or
change
your
bylaws
if
your
bylaws
or
hoa
doesn't
have
that
remember?
You
are
registered
as
a
a
north
carolina
non-profit,
particularly
if
you
were
started
after
1997,
and
so
you
can
go
to
nc
north
carolina
general
statutes,
55a,
and
it
will
tell
you
the
default
rules.
B
So
number
one
you
look
and
see
if
you
have
actual
bylaws,
if
you
don't,
the
default
rules
are
in
north
carolina,
general
statutes,
55a
and
that's
how
you
can
amend
the
bylaws
now
remember.
Ccrs
are
very
different
than
bylaws
and
hoas
are
a
little
more
complex
than
neighborhood
associations
in
that
regard.
So,
if
you're
talking
about
changing
your
ccr's,
it's
a
bit
more
of
a
longer
haul,
a
little
more
difficult
than
changing
your
bylaws.
B
So
that
and
such
all
right
got
another
question
here:
we
delayed
december
annual
meeting
for
covid.
How
long
can
you
legally
delay
it?
It's
a
good
question.
There's
again,
some
of
the
questions
with
the
north
carolina
non-profit
act
is
while
the
state
does
say
you
have
to
have
an
annual
meeting.
B
What
I
mean
by
that
is,
I
would
definitely
try
to
hold
your
descent,
your
annual
meeting
as
soon
as
possible.
Try
to
use
some
of
those
technical
things,
I'm
not
sure
I
can
I
I
would
I
would
I
mean
I
may
need
to
look
this
up.
If
you
want
to
email
me
after
whether
governor
cooper's
rule
about
using
zoom
for
memberships
is
still
in
place,
he
might
have
extended
it
past
that
original
date.
B
So
if
that's
the
case,
you
know
you
could
use
zoom
to
hold
your
annual
membership
meeting
and
if
it's
hard
to
get
a
quorum,
remember
membership.
You
know
if
your
bylaws.
Now,
if
your
bylaws
say
you
have
to
have
50
of
your
membership,
then
you're
kind
of
stuck.
But
if
your
milos
are
silent
to
quorum,
you
could
use.
You
could
arguably
use
the
10
from
the
north
carolina
law
to
hold
your
membership
meeting.
B
Can
an
audit
be
requested
for
an
hoa
when
community
members
are
not
receiving
clear
answers
about
how
the
dues
are
spent
each
year?
Well,
yes,
and
no!
Well!
What
I
mean
by
that
is,
if
you
are,
if
you
are
a
membership
nonprofit,
if
you
are
a
membership
nonprofit
and
so
look
at
your
articles
in
corporations,
go
online,
pull
those
articles
of
incorporation
and
if
you
are
a-
and
if
you
are
a
member,
then
I
got
the
act
here.
55A
1602
does
say
that
a
member
of
the
non-profit.
B
So
if
you
are
a
member
of
the
nonprofit,
then
you
are
entitled
to
inspect
and
copy
at
reasonable
time
and
location
records
of
the
corporation.
So
I
know
that
you
can.
An
audit
can
be
requested,
but
you
got
to
pay
an
auditor
to
do
that.
So
while
they
should
be
doing
an
audit,
I
mean
that's.
That's
as
good
business
practices
to
do
an
audit.
B
You
can
request
those
records
and
see
you
know
and
try
to
make
heads
or
tail
of
how
they're
spending
the
money
they
really
need
to
be
providing
those
reports
to
that
board
of
directors.
B
If
they
tell
you
to
get
get
lost,
then
maybe
then
you
should
probably
seek
legal
counsel
to
kind
of
kind
of
remind
them
what
north
carolina
law
says
about.
You
know
showing
the
corporate
records
as
far
as
as
that
goes
then
does
general
liability
cover
directors
so
usually
yeah
so
you're
talking.
I
imagine
that
you're
talking
about
a
general
library
like
commercial
general
liability,
usually
course
general
ideally
applies
to
anybody.
You
know
and
again
the
devil's
in
the
details.
So
you
wanna
I'll,
tell
you
this
about
insurance.
B
Questions
in
general
make
sure
you've
got
a
good
insurance
agent.
I
mean
really
that
that
kind
of
cures,
a
lot
of
problems,
because
insurance
policies
are
hard
to
read
it's
hard
for
a
lawyer
to
read
a
lot
of
times,
but
if
you've
got
a
if
you've
got
a
good
insurance
broker
insurance
agent,
who
has
experience,
you
know
with
non-profits
experience
with
homeowner
association
experience
with
community-based
organizations,
they
can.
They
can
explain
to
you
your
questions
like
if
I
we,
if
our
neighborhood
associate
our
hoa,
gets
this
insurance.
B
If
this
happens,
will
that
be
covered,
they
should
know
and
if
they've
got
you
know,
look
for
those
that
have
experience
and
ask
them.
What
is
your
track
record?
Who
have
you
who
have
you
done?
Who
have
you
written
insurance
for
and
if
they
have
you
written
insurance
for
hoa?
B
How
many
have
you
written
for
how
many
hoas,
if
they
said
no
hoas,
then
you
may
want
to
shop
around,
and
my
my
my
rule
of
thumb
with
procuring
insurance
is
the
same
as
recurring
agents
is
that
you
want
to
at
least
talk
to
three
and
see
if
you
know
if
they
they
work
for
you
that
way,
but
that
would
be
you
gotta.
Vet,
your
agents
I
mean
that
is
that
is
particularly
within
in
the
nonprofit
sector,
because
not
all
agents
are
created
the
same
some
focus
on
different
products.
B
You
want
to
have
an
agent
who
focuses
and
is
experienced
in
non-profit,
particularly
homeowner
association.
If
you're
a
homeowner
association,
I
would
say
the
same
issues
probably
match
up
with
a
neighborhood
association
as
well,
but
I
think
hoas
tend
to
have
more
money,
the
neighborhood
association,
so
they
tend
to
be
able
to
pay
for
insurance
and
in
fact
I
think,
under
the
hoa
law
there
is.
B
There
are
some
insurance
requirements
to
have
so
there
will
be
insurance
agents
who
have
a
lot
of
experience,
writing
insurance
for
for
hoas,
and
you
want
to
you
want
to
vet
your
agent
and
find
out
if
they
do
have
that
experience.
So
then
you
can
ask
that
question
you
asked
me
about.
Is
this
covered?
You
should
ask
your
agent
and
your
agent
should
be
able
to
answer
it
like
that,
all
right.
So
do
we
got
any
other
questions
here
at
the
end
of
the
hour
here
and
it's
but
hey.
B
A
Any
last
questions
for
rocky
going
once,
as
I
stated
in
the
chat,
we
always
provide
presentation
slides
to
you
all
so
within
the
next
day
or
so
you'll
get
a
pdf
copy
of
the
presentation.
A
I
will
also
provide
you
with
the
link
to
the
training
on
demand
page,
and
this
was
recorded,
so
it
will
be
uploaded
within
about
two
weeks
and
so
you
can
check
back.
I
see
a
question
popped
up
rocky,
oh.
B
A
For
the
person
in
the
chat,
if
you
guys
can
send
me
your
questions
and
I
will
funnel
those
to
rocky,
we
can
just
handle
it
that
way
my
email
address.
You
should
have
received
it
when
I
sent
out
the
zoom
link,
so
we
can
do
that.
That
would
be
great,
and
then
I
see
I
think
we
have
another
question
yeah.
I
got.
B
One
question
here:
well,
my
my
email
address.
I
think
michelle
be
happy
to
just
share
my
email
address.
This
is
a
good
question.
This
cheryl.
How
can
board
members
protect
themselves
from
misties
of
previous
board
members?
Here's
how
you
do
that
when
you,
if
you're
getting
talk
to
your
agent
but
make
sure
that
you
have
a
in
your
insur
in
your
either
your
dno
or
your
cgl,
whatever
you
have
make
sure
that
there
is
a
there,
isn't
a
no
prior
axe
exclusion.
B
So
a
lot
of
times!
You
know
if
you
move
to
a
new
carrier.
You
know
that
and
again,
if
it's,
if,
if
it's,
if
it,
if,
if
you've
been
with
the
same
carrier
for
a
long
time,
then
if
that
person
did
something,
then
if
somebody
comes
and
sues,
then
you
should
be
covered,
but
a
lot
of
times
when
you
change
carriers,
you
want
to
make
sure
that
when
you
move
to
a
new
one
that
there
isn't
because
there's
exclusions
and
if
we
ever
want
to
do
one
on
insurance,
I
mean
that's.
B
That's
that's
a
whole
other
topic,
but
a
lot
of
times
when
you
change
insurance
carriers.
Maybe
you
have
an
agent,
they
say
you
get
a
better
rate
with.
I
don't
know
state
farm
or
somebody.
You
know,
and
you
know,
you'll
get
a
better
rate,
so
move
from
prudential
to
the
state
farm.
So
you
do
that,
but
you
want
to
make
sure
that
when
you
make
that
move
that
when
you
move
to
a
new
carrier,
they
don't
have
an
exclusion
saying
we
won't
cover
any
prior
acts.
B
Before
you
came
into
our
care
into
our
term.
You
want
to
eat
because
a
lot
of
times
they'll
exclude
that
you'll
say.
I
know
I
would
like
you
to
cover
things
that
happen.
What
before
we
change
carriers
now
again,
so
that's
that's
one
thing:
if
you're
changing
carriers,
but
just
review
your
you
know,
review
your
your
your
policies
and
again
like
you
know,
there
might
have
been
previous
board
members
who
screwed
up,
but
you
know
you
kind
of
take
organizations
as
you
find
them.
B
If
particularly
you're
a
new
board
member,
you
just
got
to
do
what
you
got
to
do
to
kind
of
clean
things
up,
and
you
know
that's
you
know.
That's
you
know:
if
if
misdeeds
were
done
by
board
members
and
they
violated
fiduciary
duties,
then
you
know
there
might
be
recourse
against
them.
If
they,
you
know
because
like
if
they
sold
money,
then
that
would
be.
You
know,
be
one
issue
you
know
so
so
I
think
those
are
you
know
again.
B
So
should
blowback
come
to
the
current
board
that
there
will
be
folks
that'll
come
in
to
protect
you,
whether
it's
the
hoa
itself
through
the
liability
or
identification
or
by
having
dno
or
some
other
type
of
insurance
that
would
protect
against
those
mixed
deeds
and
again
talk
to
your
insurance
agent,
because
if
they're
right
they've
been
writing
insurance
for
these
sectors,
they've
seen
it
all
and
that's
what
you
want.
You
can't
that's
the
type
of
insurance,
that's
type
of
experience
that
you
get,
and
so
that's
one
of
my
shortcuts
is
I
I
you
know
before.
B
I
even
start
looking
at
something
I
want
to
know
who's
your
insurance
agent.
Do
they
know
what
they're
talking
about,
because
that
will
that
will
make
your
life
a
lot
easier
is,
is
who
your
broker
is
any
other
questions.
A
Really
quickly,
I
saw
jack
asked
in
the
chat:
does
the
city
offer
any
support
to
communities
and
either
writing
bylaws
or
examining
bylaws?
Unfortunately,
we
do
not.
We
recognize
that
this
is
definitely
a
need
for
many
hoas
and
that's
why
we
partner
with
rocky
to
have
this
particular
presentation.
A
So
you
do
have
a
service
area
team.
The
city
is
broken
up
into
four
areas.
Four
geographic
areas
and
your
service
area
team
might
be
able
to
provide
some
type
of
assistance
to
you.
So
if
you
need
to
know
who
your
service
area
team
is,
you
can
email
me,
and
I
will
let
you
know,
but
specifically
like
reviewing
bylaws
it's
not
something
that
we
typically
do.
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
answer
that
question
really
quick.
I
see
an
insurance
workshop
would
be
appreciated,
so
I
have
that
down
and
then
I
think
the
other
one.
The
other
suggestion
was
on
ccr's.
B
Maybe
when
covent
is
is,
is
is
is
done,
maybe
we
can
do
all
you
know.
Just
you
know
I
I
can
book
out
a
saturday
or
something
come
to
charlotte.
We
just
have
like
a
just
a
whole
big
review,
your
bylaws
thing.
Maybe
I
can
find
some
of
my
old
band,
like
my
old
students
from
the
clinic
and
put
the
band
together
and
we'll
just
do
a
whole
pro
bono.
You
know
just
review
your
bylaws
clinic
for
this.
B
You
know
because
I
know
a
lot
of
my
former
clinicians
are
practicing
in
the
charlotte
area,
and
so
who
knows?
Maybe
we
could
come
up
with
just
something
just
maybe
during
the
whenever
you
have
your
and
you
know
what
the
community
leadership
awards
or
I
don't
know
what
you
call
them
now.
You
know
it
might
be
a
great
day
to
come.
Bring
your
bylaws
get
a
checkup.
B
You
know,
because
you
know
we
could
maybe
that's
something
that
we
could
talk
about
in
the
you
know
in
in
the
fut
in
the
near
future,
but
obviously
we
want
to
have
the
we
got
to
get
this
stupid
pandemic
under
control.
Before
we
start.
You
know
I
mean
definitely.
A
Definitely
so
if
you
all
have
any
additional
suggestions
for
workshops
that
you'd
like
to
see
in
relation
to
hoas
or
neighborhood
organizations,
please
email
me
and
let
me
know
we
are
definitely
here
to
serve
you
all.
We
want
to
try
to
fill
in
the
gaps
for
you
and
provide
as
much
information
as
we
can.