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From YouTube: Zoning Board of Appeals of 9-13-22
Description
City of Chelsea
A
A
So
we
are
going
to
be
taking
today's
cases
in
order
and,
as
I
have
reminded
everybody
to
speak
in
the
microphone
as
now,
I
am
doing
as
I
so
we're
going
to
start
with.
202212
275
washington,
app
margalyn,
grace
special
permit
and
variants
is
seeking
approval
for
the
demolition
of
a
three-family
residential
structure
and
the
construction
of
a
six-unit
dwelling
structure
which
does
not
meet
the
current
minimum.
Zoning
regulations
for
front
yard
setback
and
then
mumble
yard
setback.
Wheat
lot
size.
Sorry,
we
heard
this
last
month.
A
B
It
it
did
go
to
the
planning
board
for
one
meeting,
but
they
did
not
meet
the
second
time
they
didn't.
Okay,.
A
So
who's
here
to
speak
on
this
and
remember
to
speak
in
the
microphone
and
please
just
update
us
remind
us
again
what
it
is,
and
this
is
still
a
public
hearing
and
if
people
are
here
to
comment
on
this,
they
will
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
it.
C
The
proposal
is
to
raise
an
existing
uninhabitable,
three-family
dwelling
at
275
washington
ave
and
to
erect
a
new
six-family
residential
condominium
building
with
12
interior
parking
spaces.
This
lot
size
is
an
exceptional,
exceptionally
large
lot
for
this
particular
area.
It's
9
900
square
feet,
and
this
building
proposed
building
shows
the
contours
of
it.
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
please.
A
C
Johnson
as
he
does
that
the.
C
The
topography
of
this
lot
is
very
deep,
too.
It's
set
far
back
as
well.
The
vehicular
entry
will
be
at
grade
and
as
the
hill
slopes
back,
all
of
those
spaces
will
actually
be
inside
and
covered
by
the
building
without
raising
the
height,
so
we're
going
to
match
the
height.
Let's.
C
Great,
so
this
is
the
this
is
a
rendering
of
the
proposed
building.
After
if
it
was
to
be
approved
and
completed,
you
can
see
garage
parking
at
that
at
grade
at
ground
level
and
the
units
above
it.
We
have
plenty
of
open
space
which
we'll
show
you
as
we
get
into
some
more
slides
as
well.
If
you
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
please,
and
then
we
just
have
some
surrounding
existing
conditions
and
surrounding
context
of
the
area.
There
is
multi-family
in
and
around
this
area.
So
it's
not
something
that
is
unique.
C
There's
a
six
unit,
larger
six
unit
right
across
the
street
from
us
and
multi-family
around
there.
Our
next
slide,
please
and
then
again
just
to
show
we
kept
at
that
height
of
the
existing
structures.
That
was
important,
and
we
also
in
doing
so,
minimize
the
variances
that
we're
requesting
so
we
are
requesting
for
use
minimum
lot
size
and
minimum
lot
size
per
dwelling
unit.
Originally
we
did
have
a
minimum
front
yard
violation
and
we
were
able
to
rework
the
plans
to
remove
that
violation.
C
Next
slide,
please
john
and
again
panoramic
view
just
from
the
back,
so
you
can
see
and
then
more
contextual
up
washington
ave
next
slide.
Please.
This
just
shows
you
sort
of
the
existing
conditions
of
the
building
that
have
gone
into
disrepair
over
the
years.
John.
A
C
Is
water
damage,
mold
and
rot
and
now
falling
into
state
of
disrepair.
B
There
are
holes
in
the
wall
holes
in
the
ceiling.
There
are
stairs
that
are
dangerous
to
walk
up
and
down
the
stairs
in
no
way
meet
any
code.
The
house
was
just
split
up
into
smaller
units
in
no
organized
way,
and
the
rooms
are
just
too
small
to
really
deal
with.
Okay.
C
Next
slide,
please
john,
so
this
just
shows
you
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
my
margin
to
go
over
his
plans,
but
all
of
these
units
are
three
bedroom
two
baths,
so
we
wanted
to
build
family
sized
units
on
this
particular
lot.
The
building
as
it
stands
now
has
very
small
and
workable
units.
The
way
it's
compromised.
So
at
this
point
I
can
turn
it
over
to
marshall
and
to
go
over
his
plans.
D
We,
the
proposed
structure,
meets
most
almost
all
of
the
zoning
requirements
for
the
area,
with
the
exception
of
them,
as
jeff
said
of
the
minimum
load
size
and
the
minimum
load
size
requirement
per
dwelling
unit,
we
were
able
to
eliminate
some
of
the
projection
violations
that
we
they
were
pointed
out
before
in
the
previous
meeting,
and
that
was
the
two
decks
that
you
see
in
the
front.
D
They
we
had
shown
them
as
two
foot
six
into
the
lot,
but
for
requirements
of
section
34.78
they
can
project
only
two
feet
and
they
have
to
be
10
feet
apart
and
they
cannot
be
larger
than
10
feet.
So
we
re
we
comply
with
all
of
those
requirements
now
and
the
second
one
was
the
canopy
over
the
main
entry
which
we
have
it
at
five
feet
or
less
from
the
property
line,
as
required
for
that
section.
D
So
we
will
not
be
requiring
a
relief
on
that
we're,
providing
10
foot
side
setbacks
and
then
the
rear
setbacks
are.
As
you
can
see.
There
is
plenty
of
room
and
we're
keeping
the
the
building
way
off
from
where
it
is
we're,
also
pushing
it
a
little
bit
out
of
the
hill
so
that
you
can
see
how
it
overlaps
with
the
existing.
So
it's
more
or
less
the
same
depth.
It's
just
wider
and
takes
advantage
of
the
width
of
the
lot.
D
D
You
would
see
here
on
the
on
the
left
that
there
are
two
units
per
level:
three
bedroom,
two
bath
or
three
bedroom,
two
and
a
half
depending,
I
think
we're
going
to
see
what
the
market
demands
and
we're
going
to
look
at
some
more
comps
before
we
finalize
that.
But
what
you
see
there
is
like
two
bedroom.
I'm
sorry,
three
bedroom
three
bath
right
now,
so
it
might
be
three
bedroom
two
bath
in
a
den
or
an
office
or.
A
B
B
D
Given
the
pandemic
on
the
right,
you
see
how
resolving
the
the
parking
and
we're
providing
at
three
bedrooms
per
apartment,
six
units
we
are
required
to
provide
12
and
then
we
are
providing
all
of
all
12
of
them
we're
providing
an
elevator
and
we're
providing
some
utility
space
that
you
see,
colored
in
blue
on
the
top
right
and
top
left
corner
and
we're
hoping
that
once
we
resolve
the
building
utilities,
some
of
the
the
rest
of
the
area
will
be
used
for
building
for
the
trash
management
and
then
the
rest
will
be
used
as
a
storage
unit
for
the
inhabitants.
D
Right
and
then
john,
if
I
can
very
briefly
talk
about
how
we
came
up
with
the
design,
so
we
looked
up
and
down
the
washington
street
most
of
the
houses
that
are
on
or
are
on
our
side
of
the
street.
And
if
you
look
at
that,
we
we
kind
of
identified
the
the
building
widths
of
different
houses
along
the
street.
We
try
to
use
that
module
on
you
know
creating
the
ins
and
outs
and
the
subdivision
of
our
building
the
proposed
building.
D
So
you
can
see
more
or
less
that
you
know
we're
tracking
to
we're,
trying
to
break
the
mass
and
then
create
more
or
less
some
of
the
same
proportions
and
the
size
of
perception
of
size,
of
the
buildings
that
are
adjacent
to
our
building.
You
can
see
that
the
height
were
more
or
less
as
across
the
street
and.
D
But
you
know
different
from
the
other
properties
along
the
street,
we're
trying
to
create
a
more
friendly
pedestrian
environment,
so
we're
creating
some
landscape
ground
floor,
which
none
of
these
other
properties
have,
because
you
have
to
go
usually
about
8
to
10
feet
up
from
the
street
level
before
you
get
to
the
front
door,
so
we're
proposing
some
sort
of
a
landscaped
front
patio
which
you
know
kind
of
it
is
it
takes
you
to
the
front
door?
E
D
D
Panelized
construction
for
as
a
I'm
sorry
as
building
cladding,
so
we're
trying
to
reinterpret
those.
You
know
use
the
same
kind
of
material
palette,
that's
what's
on
the
street,
but
trying
to
interpret
it
in
a
contemporary
way
more
in
line
with
the
the
building
that
we're
trying
to
to
build.
D
We
are
also
providing
two
really
generous
100
square
foot
decks
so
that
they
can
extend
the
inside
living
room
into
the
exterior
and
make
it
next
to
your
living
room.
It
is
out
of
the
10
foot
depth
that
it
is
eight
feet
is
covered
so
that
you
can
actually
put
some
sitting
and
enjoy
it
whether
it's
a
rainy
day
or
a
signing
or
a
sunny
day.
F
D
So
we're
trying
to
cut
into
the
to
the
hill
provide
a
parking
level
that
is
buried
on
three
sides,
and
then
you
have
three
levels
of
residential
units
up
above
john.
If
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
I
think
we
have
a
couple
of
axonometric
views
and
some
street
views
as
you
would
perceive
it
if
you
walk
north
or
south
on
washington
street.
D
We
have
it
as
one
way
I
think,
given
how
busy
the
washington
street
is
we're,
thinking
that
and
given
the
amount
of
parking
that
it's
only
12
parking
spaces
that
I
don't
think
it's
necessary
to
provide
a
two-way
parking
entrance.
We
probably
want
either
one
car
entering
the
time
or
one
car
exiting
at
a
time,
given
how
tight
washington
street
is
and
then,
as
the
users
come
in
and
out
of
there,
we
thought
it
would
be
safer
to
have
a
smaller
entry.
D
Then
you
know
most
of
the
people
that
will
leave
here
will
get
used
to
it.
So,
like
you
know,
if
they
see
the
the
door
is
open,
they
will
probably
stop
before
they
get
in
or
they
will
stop
before
they
get
out.
D
Justin,
you
know,
as
I
said,
we
try
to
use
the
the
traditional
materials,
but
in
a
contemporary
way,
and
I
think
this
corners
that
we're
providing
on
the
top,
which
connects
both
structures.
It's
meant
to
mimic
the
the
man-seared
roofs
that
you
see
all
up
and
down
the
street
and
then
the
decks.
The
way
they
are
positioned.
They're
also
meant
to
break
the
building
mass
into
the
modules
of
the
houses
that
are
adjacent
to
it
and
that's
how
we
approach
the
design
of
this
somebody.
D
D
So
it's
let's
say
three
john
requested,
like
a
concept
plan
for
the
landscape
and
and
the
lighting.
So
you
can
see
here
that,
along
that
egress
path
on
the
left
that
we're
providing
some
wall
sconces
that
will
provide
enough
at
least
the
minimum
amount
of
light,
that's
required
for
a
light
in
an
egress
path.
D
We
have
not
accommodated
yet,
but
there
are,
there
are
those
corners
that
you
see
that
we
can
probably
accommodate
a
couple
of
bike
rides
we're
hoping
to
give
once
we've
located
all
the
other
utilities,
we're
hoping
to
see.
If
how
many
storage
units
we
can
give
to
each
of
the
occupants,
you
know
hopefully
six
and
then
that
can
use
it
to
hold
the
bike,
or
maybe
you
know,
use
it
for
whatever
to
store
whatever
it
is.
They
want.
I
D
G
C
And
I
believe
that
came
up
at
the
last
hearing.
I
think
we
mentioned
that
and
we
had
said
we
can
make
it.
You
know
light
up
and
not
not
too
loud,
of
a
sound
but
loud
enough
that
pedestrians
loud.
B
B
B
A
M
Okay-
and
I
was
just
thinking
about
275-
so
that's
on
well,
both
sides
are
parking
and
it's
always
hidden
coming
in
and
out
on
washington
ave
on
that
side,
it's
just
jam-packed
as
it
is,
so
I
think
it's
a
good
thing
for
signage,
but
I'm
wondering
if
they'd
even
see
the
signage,
where
it's
just
so
condensed.
I
D
Of
the
garage
door,
but
I
think
the
idea
is
that
you
know
we're
taking
one
parking
spot
from
the
street,
but
we're
providing
12
covered.
J
D
G
G
A
Is
it
okay
open
for
the
public?
Is
this
is
going
to
be
the
last
opportunity
you
will
have
to
speak
on
this
matter?
Is
there
anyone
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
there
being
none,
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
participation,
the
public
hearing
portion
of
this
hearing
and
I'm
going
to
ask
the
petitioners
to
go
through
the
variance
requirements
for
us.
A
Please,
my
favorite
thing
so
we're
going
to
go
through
them
one
at
a
time,
john,
and
let's
be
clear,
so
we're
talking
about
minimum
lot
size
that
is
primarily
the
one
we
are
dealing
with
at
this
point,
minimum.
A
C
Right
so
the
subject
lot
is
large
and
it's
sloped.
The
design
of
the
project
incorporates
access
to
the
proposed
parking
at
grade
which
becomes
below
grade
as
you
move
further
back
on
the
lot.
The
topography
of
the
lot
allows
for
a
project
that
contains
adequate
parking,
but
is
also
designed
in
a
manner
that
is
consistent
with
the
heights
of
the
surrounding
properties.
C
So
the
subject
law
is
larger,
has
mentioned
and
can
accommodate
the
proposed
use
with
limited
zoning
relief.
Rejecting
the
proposal,
based
solely
on
the
total
lot
size
would
cause
substantial
hardship
for
the
petitioner
and
prevent
needed
residential
units.
The
existing
structure
as
it
stands,
is
in
need
of
substantial
repair
and
the
cost
to
preserve
it
and
bring
it
up
to
code
erect,
in
addition
onto
the
existing
structure,
to
create
new
needed
units
or
erect
a
new
building
without
this
number
of
units
would
be
cost
prohibitive
to
the
applicant.
C
The
proposal
has
been
designed
to
fit
within
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
There
are
other
multi-family
residential
buildings
in
this
neighborhood,
including
an
eight-unit
building
across
the
street
from
us.
The
proposal
includes
ample
parking,
usable,
open
space
decks
and
does
not
exceed
allowed
lot
coverage.
This
proposal
is
good
for
the
public
because
it
allows
for
needed
residential
family
units
without
overwhelming
the
neighborhood.
L
A
L
C
D
L
N
I
I
have
a
question:
we
didn't
receive
any
communications
from
any
of
you
on
botters,
nothing,
nothing!
Okay,.
M
N
G
I
A
G
A
The
next
one
is
2022
1330,
silk,
30,
hillside
ave,
jay
duka,
and
this
will
we
won't
be
deciding
on
this
today.
This
will
be
moving
to
the
planning
board,
which
is
meeting
on
the
22
27th
of
this
month
and
will
come
back
before
us
on
october
11th.
But
this
will
you
will
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
this.
P
You,
madam
chair,
my
name,
is
jay
duka,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
larry
meads,
the
owner
of
the
property
at
30,
hillside
avenue,
as
you
can
see,
by
the
picture.
What's
standing
there
today
is
a
single
story
garage,
it's
a
pre-existing
non-conforming
structure
in
a
residential
neighborhood,
we're
seeking
variances
in
special
permit
to
change
the
use
of
the
garage
and
the
structure
to
a
single-family
home.
That's
in
more
character
with
the
neighborhood
is
that.
P
What
you
have
before
you
is
an
amended
copy
of
the
original
plan
that
I
submitted
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
by
the
way
for
allowing
us
to
continue
for
a
couple
of
months.
While
we
worked
some
concerns
out
with
the
neighbor
who
is
here
tonight,
who
will
speak
when
when
we're
through
here
next
slide,
please
the
hardship.
As
you
can
see,
the
structure
is
at
the
front
of
the
lot
line.
It's
pre-existing
not
conforming
the
lot
slopes
downhill.
P
P
P
The
topography
of
the
site
is
also,
although
it's
not
unique
completely
with
the
site.
The
shape
of
the
lot
is
also
a
hardship
it.
It's
unique
in
its
shape,
unlike
any
other
of
the
other
lots
in
the
neighborhood,
so
we're
here
tonight
to
ask
for
a
virus
and
a
special
permit
next
slide.
Please.
P
This
is
the
rear
of
the
structure,
we're
using
the
same
footprint
of
the
garage
more
or
less
in
the
back
of
the
structure.
There's
a
16
by
27
foot
addition,
some
landscaping
which
I'll
we'll
go
through
those
slides
coming
up
next
slide.
Please
we'll
start
off
by
showing
an
elevation
view
to
give
you
some
idea
what
the
next
slide.
What
flow
we'll
be
talking
about,
the
street
grade
line
carries
from
the
street.
P
What
you
see
in
red
is
what
was
proposed
back
in
2014
today,
we're
here
as
a
result
of
the
meeting
with
the
neighboring
who's
here
tonight,
we've
reduced
the
size
of
the
structure,
we've
taken
off
the
rear,
deck,
the
rear,
stairs
and
deck,
and
we've
taken
off
the
third
story
in
the
back.
So
we've
come
quite
a
distance
from
where
we
were
in
2014.
P
P
On
the
front
yeah
or
the
other
red
yeah,
you
can
see
the
garage
originally,
we
had
a
second
story
all
the
way
over
on
the
footprint.
So
that's
those
are
the
reductions
that
we
are
here
tonight
so
continuing
on.
A
P
It's
pretty
much
the
outline
of
the
line
the
first
floor
level
is
mostly
half
of
almost
half
of
it
is
taken
up
by
a
two
two
car
garage,
which
is
it
pretty
much
is
existing
there
anyway.
P
Go
down
to
the
lower
level,
the
stairs
on
the
front
go
up
to
the
second
floor
level.
The
next
slide
please
second
floor
level
is
a
living
room,
kitchen,
dining
room.
It's
got
a
roof
deck
which
was
also
reduced
in
size.
It
used
to
be
the
whole
size
of
the
addition
27
by
16..
P
P
As
you
can
see,
the
garage,
that's
the
roof
on
the
garage
side.
Next
slide,
please,
the
attic
floor
is
a
walk-up
attic.
It's
got
it
to.
The
underneath
of
the
peak
is
about
eight
feet:
it's
not
habitable.
It's
going
to
be
heated
space.
The
owner
would
like
to
keep
some
precious
possessions
up
there
and
he
would
like
to
keep
it
heated.
There'll
also
be
mechanical
equipment,
but
there'll
be
no
habitable
space
next
slide,
please.
P
P
P
P
A
P
Yes,
that
dotted
line
that
used
to
be
that
was
original.
The
original
plan
we
had
excellent.
This
is
the
landscape
plan,
there's
46
different
various
abravaity
and
love
child
landscaping
plants
these
two
trees.
This
is
a
live
group
of
trees
that
are
going
to
remain.
These
are
two
last
years.
A
P
P
P
P
P
This
is
part
of
the
stall
management
plan.
Stormwater
and
next
slide
is
also
some
utility
plan.
Next
slide,
that's
pretty
much
my
presentation.
P
P
P
G
G
N
N
P
A
Okay,
as
I
said
this
is
I'm
going
to
open
the
public
portion
of
this
hearing.
This
will
not
be
the
only
opportunity
one
has
to
speak
on
it,
but
is
there
anyone
here
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this?
Please
introduce
yourself
and
speak
at
the
moment.
Yes,.
Q
My
name
is
constantinos
busius
and
I
own
the
property
that
about
this
property
and
I'm
here
in
principle
to
support
what
mr
duggar
has
just
presented,
but
I'm
also
here
to
discuss
one
more
topic.
So,
if
you
allow
me,
let
me
let
me
to
allow
one
more
to
discuss
one
more
amendment
that
I
would
like
to
request.
So
let
me
first
go
back
to
a
little
bit
in
time,
so
this
proposal,
as
mr
duke
has
showed
in
2014,
had
been
proposed.
Q
It
was
much
larger
than
my
next-door
neighbors
were
also
a
batting
appealed
it
in
court
and
they
won
the
court
case,
and
I
sent
you
a
letter
a
few
a
few
weeks
ago,
like
in
the
summer
where
I
was
telling
that
story
where
I
was
expressed
through
my
lawyer,
actually
was
expressing
that
I'm
willing
to
to
work
with
to
to
support
if
it
is
reduced
size
thankfully,
and
gratefully.
Mr
zucker
has
been
very,
very
willing
to
work
with
me
and
address
my
concerns,
and
now
we
have
this
amended.
Q
However,
even
that
roof
right
now,
when
we
see
the
new
designs-
and
we
really
you
know,
go
in
there
and
look
at
them-
it's
gonna
be
tall
so
and
that
corner-
I
don't
know
if
we
can
go
back
in
the
slides.
Would
you
mind,
mr
zucca,
to
to
use
the
slides
sure?
Please,
and
if
you
can
go
back
to
the
slides
that
one
okay
so
or
that
one
yeah
actually,
the
previous
one
is
even
better
yeah
conceptual.
P
Q
So
so
my
properties,
where
it
says
there
that
one
that's
my
property.
This
is
the
old
donor
right
that
name
over
there.
So
you
see
that
corner.
That
is
the
closest
to
my
property,
that's
really
where
the
variance
is
sold
for
so
what
I
was
hoping
is.
I
was
hoping
to
the
new
construction
to
be
a
little
bit
further
from
mine
from
my
property.
It's
an
opportunity
right
now,
since
we're
doing
it
as
an
opportunity.
Q
I
have
offered
a
couple
of
quick
suggestions
to
mr
duca
to
maybe
make
it
you
know
a
little
bit
of
a
smaller
garage
and
a
little
bit
further
from
my
property
and
the
property
that
is
right.
Next
to
you,
know
the
the
one
that
is
like
to
the
to
the
bottom
of
this
drawing
right,
which
is
also
adjacent,
and
that's
really
what
I
came
here
to
discuss
in
principle.
Q
Very
it's
going
to
be
overwhelming
and
that's
you
know
and
though
we're
also
concerned
about
the
value
of
our
property,
and
you
know
that
that
kind
of
thing
it's
it's
high
up.
So
if
it's
high
up
and
closer
to
us
it's
worse
than
if
it's
high
up
but
a
little
further
from
us.
That's
thank.
R
A
Thank
you.
Is
there
anyone
else
who
wishes
to
speak
on?
This
won't
be
your
only
opportunity.
Okay,
we're
gonna
john
does
well
we're
gonna
just
send
this
off
to
the
planning
board.
This
is
gonna,
go
to
the
planning
board
on
the
27th
of
september
and
back
here
on
october,
11th.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Here's
one.
I
P
I
don't
know
that,
aside
from
shoveling
out
the
rear,
stair
that
goes
down,
I
don't
know
that
we're
pretty
much
on
the
street
level,
and
I
don't
know
that
will
be.
I
mean
whatever
snow
we
shovel
off
the
patio
is
that
what
you're
saying.
P
In
front
of
the
house
just
like
it
would
be
just
like
any
other
person
who
lives
on
the
street,
we
would
just
shovel
it
and
make
a
four
foot
walkway.
We
are
set
back
off
the
street
four
feet,
so
we
could
pilot
on
our
property.
That
would
be
you
know,
but
it
would
be
not
unlike
other
folks
that
shovel
this
now.
A
Next
month,
the
next
case
2022-15
has
asked
we're
going
to
be
moving
that
to
september
11th.
Do
we
have
to
vote
on
that?
Yes,.
A
S
Anna
has
the
clearest
explanations
and
answers
to
your
questions.
If
you
recall
we
were
here
a
month
ago,
the
project,
in
short,
is
68.
Marginal
street
was
burned,
not
burned
down,
but
substantially
destroyed
by
a
fire.
Last
december.
S
S
S
That's
the
original
pitch
of
the
roof.
It's
actually
a
pitched
roof,
that's
dormered
out,
and
the
new
plans
call
for
a
flat
roof,
no
change
in
the
height
and
again,
no
change
in
the
footprint.
No
change
in
the
parking
the
castillos
live
in.
What's
now
a
duplex
of
well,
they
lived
in
a
duplex
apartment
which
covered
the
second
and
third
floors.
It's
way
too
much
space
for
their
present
needs.
So
all
they
were
looking
to
be
doing
in
this
case
is
splitting
that
large
apartment
into
two
reasonably
sized
apartments.
A
T
This
once
or
twice
already
thank
you
roy
of
zanetta,
325,
commandant's
way,
city
council
president
and
I'm
here
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
petition
and
support
the
conversion.
I
know
that
the
castillo
family,
long-time
members
in
the
community
have
lived
here
in
the
chelsea
for
many
years
owners
of
a
business
here
in
broadway,
really
stakeholders
here,
and
I
know
that
it
was
a
tragedy,
what
happened
with
them
to
their
home,
with
no
fault
of
their
own,
just
a
live
wire
that
was
too
close
to
their
home
and
caused
a
terrible
loss.
T
So
I
support
that
the
expansion
and
really,
I
don't
think
it's
a
major
change
or
increase
it's
a
leveling
of
the
roof
for
the
description
that
was
provided,
and
I
I
think
that
the
parking
that
they
have
off
street
in
addition
to
some
of
the
off
street
they
have
in
the
neighborhood
will
suffice.
So
I
hope
this
board
will
look
favorably
towards
this
project.
Thank
you.
A
A
S
A
S
B
S
A
B
Our
recommended
recommended
conditions
are
standard
conditions,
as
applicable.
I
originally
proposed
eliminating
a
door
to
the
basement
computer
room,
however,
a
condition
that
it
shall
never
be
used
as
a
bedroom
is
sufficient.
B
You
know
a
community
improvement
trust
fund
payment
is
going
to
be
required.
Design
review
by
my
department
and
occupants
of
the
units
on
the
first
and
third
floor
will
not
be
eligible
to
participate
in
the
city's
resident
sticker
proctoring
program.
That's
just
that's
a
state.
That's
a
city
regulation.
U
U
O
Oh
excuse
me,
my
name
is
pablo
castillo,
okay,
yeah,
sorry.
A
O
O
O
Can
you
see
it?
Okay,
okay,
if
you're
looking
here,
you
see,
there
is
a
balcony
here,
the
window
that
right
behind
this
wall
coming
up
here
and
then
go
inside
like
this.
But
for
me
I
mean
the
way
that
we
did
the
brain.
Now
we
have
to
cross
down
the
wall
in
here
right,
close
it
up
and
make
the
wall
even
all
the
way
down
to
here.
But
for
that
we
have
to
put
some
windows
because
we
need
some
light
inside
the
property
inside.
O
A
A
I
A
A
B
U
A
G
O
V
A
So
a
private
entrance
to
the
third
floor
that
you
currently
don't
have
a
private
entrance
to
the
third
floor
is
that
what
you're
saying
is
that
your
your
residence
you're
saying
the
third
floor?
You
currently
reside
on
the
second
and
third
floor,
correct
correct!
So
you
don't
have
an
external
entrance
to
the
third
floor.
So
this
is
to
create
an
external
entrance
to
the
third.
G
A
A
U
G
A
G
A
The
way
I
described
it
makes
sense
to
me
because
that's
why
I
described
it,
but
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
truth,
but
I
mean,
if
that's
what
it
is.
So
it
sounds.
I
mean
you,
don't
have
you
don't
have
a
separate
staircase
there.
Now
you
have
to
create
a
separate,
staircase
correct.
You
are
creating
a
window
so
that
it's
not
this
claustrophobic
space
as
you're
walking
up
to
the
third
floor
can.
A
A
M
A
A
M
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
castillos
are
aware
of
the
community
improvement
trust
fund.
I.
M
A
B
U
A
S
B
B
Did
say
it
that,
because
I
read
it
as
if
you
were
creating
two
new
units,
I'll
reread
it
if
it's
just
a
one
unit,
so
you're
living
on
the
first
and
second
floor
now,
second
and
third
you'll
be
creating
one
new
unit
either
the
second
or
the
third.
That
unit
will
not.
The
tenants
of
that
unit
will
not
be
able
to
get
stickers
for
parking
on
the
street.
I
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
case
2022-18
for
special
payments
and
variances
to
seeking
approval
for
for
making
a
home
and
a
four
building
and
the
four
apartments
right
with
the
special
conditions.
As.
A
A
W
I'm
albin
plato's,
this
is
my
father.
Mario
claros
he's
the
owner
of
65
sherlock,
so
the
we're
seeking
for
a
special
permit,
my
father
redid
the
first
floor
and
by
doing
that
he
lost
one
of
the
bedrooms
in
the
first
floor.
So
he's
looking
for
a
special
permit
to
build
two
bedrooms
in
the
basement.
W
The
reason
my
father
is
trying
to
do
that
he's
trying
to
make
better
use
of
the
space
that
he
has
in
the
basement
since
he
lost
one
of
the
bedrooms
in
the
first
floor,
and
so
one
of
the
issues
was
that
the
parking
space
there
was
only
two
parking
spaces,
so
he's
willing
to
work
on
that
and
if
there
is
a
need
for
to
build
a
third
parking
space
in
there,
he's
willing
to
get
rid
of
a
deck
that
he
has
in
the
back
and
that's
pretty
much
it
he's
seeking
for
primary
special
permit
on
those
two
bedrooms
on
the
basement.
W
The
first
floor
was
originally
a
four
bedroom
apartment,
and
so
he
built
a
dining
room
in
there.
Okay,
so
that's
the
reason
now
he
ended
up
losing
one
of
the
bedrooms.
On
the
first
floor.
A
A
A
G
B
That
we
have,
where
standard
of
applicable
conditions,
that
the
bedrooms
in
the
basement
shall
only
be
part
of
the
first
floor
and
not
rented
out
separately.
So.
I
H
W
Correct
it
is,
that
is
the
plan.
It
will
be
an
extension
of
the
first.
B
They
would,
but
they
can
only
provide
two
so
they're
looking
for
relief.
They
were.
A
Looking
for
leave
for
that,
okay,
do
you
have
any
thoughts,
people.
A
N
Ahead
good
afternoon
my
name
is
janara
borganyan.
I
am
here
on
behalf
of
my
parents.
They
can
be
here
because
of
the
rescheduling
of
the
last
meeting.
A
B
At
the
last
meeting,
we
talked
about
that
the
fact
that
their
plan
did
not
show
how
much
area
they
want
to
pave
and
that
they
were
they
were
to
provide
us
with
a
plan
showing
the
paved
area.
N
Okay,
so
I
don't
have
that
visual,
but
I
know
that
they
are
planning
to
pave
just
a
section
for
four
spots.
I.
A
A
A
B
A
A
J
A
This
also
includes
for
city
of
chelsea
zoning
ordinance,
no
entrance
or
exit
from
any
off
street
parking
area
with
four
or
more
parking
spaces
shall
be
located
within
50
feet
of
an
intersection
of
any
two
street
lines.
This
is
one
of
those
we
know.
This
is
a
somewhat
use,
interesting
and
unique
application,
probably
not
unique,
even
chelsea,
but
pretty
different.
So
it's
a
small
portion
of
a
larger
project.
Please
reintroduce
us
to
that,
introduce
yourself
and
maintain
us
the
project.
F
Thank
you
good
evening.
My
name
is
paul
teller,
I'm
with
d'ambrosio
llp
of
revere
mass,
and
I
have
my
clients
here
with
me
this
evening.
This
is,
as
you
have
suggested,
a
larger
project,
the
majority
of
which
is
in
revere.
It's
a
16-unit
apartment
building
that
is
on
the
border
at
washington
street,
of
both
revere
and
chelsea.
F
The
portion
that
is
in
chelsea
is
approximately
700
square
feet,
which
consists
of
a
parking
sp
one
parking,
space
and
half
of
another
parking
space,
a
small
portion
of
the
driveway
to
the
complex
off
prospect.
I
believe
it
is,
and
also
a
curb
cut
and,
of
course,
around
the
parking
spaces,
some
low
level
landscaping.
F
What
we're
doing
is
we're
seeking
a
special
permit
to
allow
us
to
have
that
parking
space
and
a
half
the
curb
cut
and
the
small
portion
of
the
driveway
we
did.
We
were
fortunate
to
receive
all
of
our
zoning
relief
from
the
city
of
revere
on
august
24th.
F
F
A
B
The
purpose
for
the
two
requirements-
one
is
that
no
parking
be
within
five
feet
in
the
front
yard
within
five
feet.
Of
the
side.
Lot
line
is
so
that
one
that
the
cars
are
not
parking
on
the
sidewalk,
but
also
so
that
vehicles
coming
out
of
the
side
street
can
have
clear
distance
on
washington
to
see
other
vehicles
coming,
and
this
is
set
for
this.
This
is
set
back
far
enough
that
it's
not
blocking
that
slight
distance
on
washington
nav.
B
I
am
recommending
the
installation
of
a
fence
in
the
front
and
on
the
side
of
the
pocket.
Just
so
the
cars
don't
drive
over
on
the
sidewalk
and
tend
to
park
on
the
sidewalk,
and
I'm
also
recommending
the
curb
cut
similar
to
what
we
told
the
washington
nav
people
was
that
the
curb
cut
the
design
is
that
the
sidewalk
is
flush
at
the
back
of
the
sidewalk.
B
P
B
If
this
there's
only
six,
I
don't
know
why
I'm
losing
it,
there's
only
six
lots
on
prospect
street
if
there
were
more
I'd,
be
more
concerned
about
the
driveway
being
closer
than
50
feet
or
or
the
side
and
the
parking
right
on
the
street,
but
with
just
6
units.
It's
not
really
that
big,
a
problem.
Okay,.
A
X
A
A
Luck.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
The
next
one
in
front
of
us
is
2022-22.
295
eastern
ave
295
eastern
have
llc.
We
will
not
be
deciding
on
this
today
because
it's
the
first
time
we'll
be
hearing
it
we'll
be
taking
public
testimony.
It
will
be
going
to
the
planning
board
on
9
27
and
we'll
be
back
here
before
the
zoning
board
on
10
11..
A
H
Thank
you
good
evening,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board.
I'm
jay
igerman
attorney
with
reuben
junius
and
rose
with
an
office
at
112
water
street
in
boston
with
me,
is
jackie,
martin
from
the
ownership
also
katie
cruz,
our
civil
engineer,
jim
thornhill,
the
architect,
dan
adams,
the
urban
designer
and
ken
kram
on
transportation.
G
H
H
This
gets
you
oriented
on
chelsea
creek,
that's
295
eastern
avenue
shown
it's
about
19
acres,
it's
partially
bounded
by
the
mbta
commuter
rail
which
you'll
see
at
the
very
extreme
bottom
of
the
photograph,
there's
also
in
a
butter
that
we
share
an
easement
with
and
I'll
address
that
at
305
eastern
avenue,
the
two
existing
buildings
were
built
in
1960
and
there's
one
from
1996
for
automotive
use.
Historically,
this
was
a
petroleum
storage
area,
but
all
the
tanks
were
removed.
Some
time
ago,
there's
been
an
activities.
H
H
This
shows
a
little
bit
more
detail,
so
you
can
see
that
the
buildings
are
right
now
to
the
westerly
edge
and
the
area
where
the
tanks
were
is
mostly
grass
and
there's
an
old
pier
that
sticks
out
somewhat
into
the
creek
next
slide.
Please
whoop
nope!
I
think
we
got
to
access,
maybe
go
back
yeah
the
zoning
zoning.
This
is
in
the
port
district,
so
for
the
special
permit
there
have
to
be
findings
specific
to
the
port
district
as
well.
H
H
The
project
is
also
in
a
couple
of
overlay
districts,
the
airport
related
and
the
wireless
communications,
but
those
are
not
relevant
to
what
we're
proposing
there's
state
jurisdiction
too.
I
don't
want
to
gloss
over
that.
We've
been
through
a
full
meepa
review
massachusetts,
environmental
policy
act.
The
certificate
was
issued
after
an
eir
environmental
impact
report.
In
august
we
would
have
to
get
at
least
three
state
permits
that
people
should
be
aware
of.
There
has
to
be
a
chapter.
H
91
license,
maybe
go
to
the
next
slide,
because
this
is
private
filled
tidelands
there
will
be
a
hundred
feet
buffer
for
water
dependent
uses
from
the
shoreline
where
no
industrial
uses
will
occur.
Just
public
access
there'll
also
be
a
water
quality
certification
to
make
sure
we're
not
damaging
the
creek.
It's
possible
that
we
need
a
permit
from
the
us
army
corps
of
engineers
to
do
some
work
with
the
outflow
next
slide.
Please.
H
This
is
fine.
Let's
stay
on
this
one
I'll
turn
it
over
to
the
landscape.
Architect,
in
a
minute,
the
correspondence
you
got
from
the
abutter
arose
because
we
weren't
aware
that
our
building
was
actually
proposed,
although
on
our
land
on
an
easement
that
they
had
a
right
to
so
in
august,
we
submitted
a
revision
to
move
the
building
down,
23
and
a
half
feet
so
that
there's
no
proposed
work
within
the
easement
area
that
benefits
the
neighbor
at
305.
Eastern
they've
asked
us
to
look
at
some
drainage
issues.
H
Obviously,
we've
designed
our
drainage
and
our
engineers
here
tonight
so
that
nothing
goes
on
their
property.
Everything
has
to
be
redone
and
go
down
to
the
creek
and
those
outfalls,
but
they've
engaged
an
engineer
and
they
need
their
own
engineer
to
evaluate
that.
So,
by
the
time
we
get
back
to
you,
they
will
have
done
that
work
again
by
law
and
good
practice.
We
would
not
drain
on
their
property.
H
The
proposal,
as
you
see,
shows
one
building,
as
I
said,
about
114
000
square
feet.
The
trade-off
here,
as
noted
in
the
secretary
of
the
environment's
certificate,
is
right.
Now
this
is
a
use,
use
area
holy
industrial,
that's
not
open
to
the
public,
even
though
it's
on
chelsea
creek.
H
So
what
we've
done
is
we've
designed
and
you'll
hear
from
the
landscape
architect,
public
access
that
goes
around
the
entire
perimeter
of
the
site,
so
not
just
on
the
shoreline,
but
we
have
a
pathway,
so
people
can
get
into
the
site
from
eastern
avenue
two
different
ways,
and
so
the
uses
will
be
compatible
to
emphasize.
This
is
not
a
free
forwarding
facility.
Those
are
much
larger.
H
I
know.
114
000
square
feet
sounds
large,
but
those
big
amazon
freight
forwarding
operations
are
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
thousands.
This
is
also
a
speculative
development.
We
don't
have
a
tenant
in
mind.
What
we
have
is
three
possible
tenants,
so
each
has
an
office
space.
That's
built
into
this
and
they're
doing
it's
warehouse
space
that
actually
gets
priced
out
by
the
big
boys
like
amazon,
that
we're
trying
to
capture
the
fiscal
benefits
of
the
project
were
submitted
in
writing.
H
But
to
summarize,
for
you
and
for
the
public,
we
calculate
the
net
annual
increase
in
taxes
will
be
about
105
000.
That's
every
year.
There's
a
linkage
fee.
The
city
council,
as
you
know,
is
considering
a
home
rule
petition
and
we
will
be
paying
that
that
comes
out
to
about
100
1.1
million
dollars
and
then
also
there
is
a
thought
that
someday
there
could
be
development
to
the
east
of
us
and
a
boardwalk
could
be
continued.
H
That
can't
happen
now
and
that
will
have
to
be
a
separate
project
for
another
day,
but
we've
earmarked
half
a
million
dollars
for
that
work
so
that
it's
available
to
the
city.
With
that
I
I
do
want
to
turn
it
over
to
dan
dan
adams
has
worked
very
hard
on
this
landscaping
and
he'll
be
able
to
answer
questions
as
well
hi.
My
name
is
dan
adams.
L
K
K
Yeah
we
can
start
here.
This
is
fine,
essentially,
as
was
described
in
the
heart
of
the
site,
is
the
building
and
it's
sort
of
supporting
apron
immediately
around
the
site
is
an
extensive
landscape
that
we've
been
designing
for
public
access
along
what
we
call
the
turning
basin
of
chelsea
creek,
which
is
essentially
the
northernmost
extent
of
chelsea
creek
before
it
becomes
mill
creek.
K
Obviously,
there's
been
a
long
sort
of
standing
effort
and
desire
in
the
city
to
increase
public
access
on
the
creek.
This,
in
total,
creates
about
a
half
mile
long
circuit
of
public
access
networks
around
the
site,
half
of
which
are
along
the
waterfront
next
slide,
please
or
actually,
if
you're,
sorry.
J
K
Yeah
yeah
sorry,
this
is
great.
The
shoreline
itself
is
very
extensive,
with
sort
of
a
title
constructed,
rip
wrap
immediately
to
the
right
on
the
image
is
what
would
be
called
the
turning
basin
of
chelsea
creek
and
there's
all
sorts
of
sort
of
rich
habitat
flooring,
fun
on
the
site,
horseshoe,
crabs,
oysters,
etc.
What
you
can
start
to
see
on
land
is
what
we
call
a
pioneer
secession
landscape,
essentially
following
the
removal
of
the
oil
tanks
on
the
site
and
the
leveling
of
the
dikes.
K
K
I
think
something
that's
been
cited
by
many
community
members
is
the
proximity
to
the
elementary
school
and
the
sort
of
educational
opportunities
of
being
able
to
get
children
out
on
the
waterfront
for
classes
et
cetera,
and
we've
had
outreach
with
the
principals
of
the
school
next
slide.
Please
we've
had
a
number
of
community
events
on
the
site,
including
community
walks
and
next
slide
collected
feedback
and
much
of
that
feedback
kind
of
reiterated.
K
K
Just
some
of
the
kind
of
character
and
president,
you
know
of
the
types
of
amenities
that
we
anticipate
on
the
site.
A
lot
of
the
feedback
was
a
desire
for
sort
of
organic
construction,
use
of
wood,
furniture
for
glasses
and
again,
a
major
element
is
the
creation
of
rain
gardens
as
an
educational
element
to
show
sort
of
the
water
flows
and
how
we
can
better
manage
water
off
of
infrastructure
and
industrial
sites
going
into
chelsea
creek
next
slide.
Please.
K
So,
as
was
described
before,
this
is
the
existing
condition
of
the
site,
you
can
see
the
sort
of
meandering
extensive
character
of
the
waterfront
and
the
vast
mud
flats
that
exist
in
this
area,
which
are
again
rich
in
habitat
next
slide.
Please,
we've
been
working
with
an
ecologist
from
offshoots
cape
kennan
to
identify
the
kind
of
pioneering
species
on
the
site
and
figure
out
strategies
of
preserving
those.
K
Fortunately,
most
of
the
pioneer
species
really
exist
along
the
coastal
edge,
which
is
the
area
we're
proposing
for
public
access
and
landscape
preservation.
Next
slide,
please,
this
is
a
simple
diagram
to
just
sort
of
our.
You
know
make
more
clear
that
kind
of
major
path
network
the
dashed
lines
heading
up
to
the
east
was
the
described
commitment
for
a
500
000
towards
the
future
boardwalk
connecting
up
to
the
old
forbes
site
when
that
becomes
available
on
the
sort
of
northeast
area.
K
In
chelsea
are
really
helpful
for
supporting
future
events
and
installations,
one
of
the
key
pieces
of
feedback
that
we
got
particularly
from
green
roots,
who
we've
had
extensive
discussions
and
meeting
with,
was
really
how
do
you
create
kind
of
a
loop
both
for
people
to
like
recreate
for
like
jogging
or
walking,
but
also
for
a
feeling
of
safety,
so
that
there's
not
just
sort
of
like
a
single
way
in
single
way
out
but
ways
to
meander
through
the
site.
So
you
can
kind
of
choose
your
path
next
slide,
please.
K
So
this
is
the
overall
site
plan.
What's
highlighted
in
the
kind
of
more
turquoise
blue
color
is
the
storm
water
management.
So
that's
really
the
kind
of
sponge
filter
of
all
the
water
coming
off
of
both
the
building
and
the
apron,
so
that
all
of
the
water
coming
off
the
site
would
be
filtered
through
bio
remediation
before
discharging
into
chelsea
creek.
K
K
K
This
is
the
waterfront
area
where
we
have
these
sort
of
clearings
within
the
trees
that
we're
proposing
as
the
outdoor
classrooms
next
slide,
where,
where
there
are
some
trees
being
removed
on
the
site,
we
would
salvage
that
wood
to
create
the
sort
of
what
we're
calling
learning
circles,
the
we're
planning
to
plan
and
do
a
lot
of
sort
of
small
scale
plantings
to
really
encourage
sort
of
preserve
the
secessional
quality.
So
those
little
blue
tubes,
sticking
out
of
the
ground
are
just
rabbit
protections
to
protect
the
the
small
trees
from
being
eaten
next
slide.
K
K
K
K
We
are
looking
at
sort
of
similar
to
port
park
a
little
bit
salvaging
some
of
the
elements
on
this
site.
There's
this
interesting
old
sort
of
overhead
walkway,
with
sort
of
supported
by
these
columns
and
beam
system
next
slide
we're
proposing
turning
that
into
a
vine
trellis.
So
this
would
now
be
the
back
side
of
the
warehouse
which
is
eastern
ave
extension
sort
of
the
back
side
of
the
loop
that
people
can
take
circum
navigating
the
site
next
slide,
please
all
right
and
I'll
hand
it
off
to
discuss
the
building
itself.
Y
Good
evening
my
name
is
jim
thornhill,
I'm
the
principal
in
charge
from
applied
form
and
space.
Architects
we're
the
project,
architects.
I
want
to
give
you
just
a
very
brief
overview
of
the
building
itself,
which
is
a
one-story
building,
as,
as
it
has
been
said,
it's
about
fourteen
thousand
square
feet,
it's
a
three
ten
in
space.
At
this
time.
Each
tenant
is
about
thirty
eight
thousand
square
feet.
Actually,
if
you
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
that'd
be
great.
Thank
you.
The
three
tenant
spaces
are
38
000
square
feet.
Y
The
clear
interior
height
is
36
feet
clear.
If
next
sight,
please,
I
think
that's
the
only
the
second
and
only
slide.
For
me,
the
average
roof
fight
is
about
43
feet
above
the
slab
level,
and
this
is
a
pre-engineered
metal
building.
So
for
gfi
partners.
This
typically
includes
a
10-foot
cmu
base
at
the
exterior
wall
for
durability.
Y
The
remainder
of
the
exterior
walls
are
three-inch
insulated
metal
panels
for
thermal
efficiency.
The
roofing
has
two
layers
of
bad
insulation
over
the
roof
joists
and
the
roofing
is
a
standing,
seam
metal
roof
and
our
general
column
grid
is
a
56
by
57
foot
grid,
which
is
typical
for
warehouse
facilities.
There's
just
a
few
design
concepts.
I
want
to
relate,
because,
honestly,
the
building
becomes
kind
of
a
backdrop
to
dan
and
his
firm's
beautiful
work.
It's
a
very
simple
building.
Y
It's
a
single
pitched
roof,
two,
a
couple
elements
that
we
were
able
to
enhance
by
shifting
the
building
south.
Previously
this
is
an
unlimited
area.
Building
by
the
international
building
code,
the
state
building
code
and
the
wall
facing
eastern
avenue
extension
would
have
had
to
have
been
a
three-hour
fire
resistant
wall
which,
which
meant
any
opening
in
that
wall,
would
also
have
to
be
a
three-hour
rating
by
shifting
the
building
south
were
alleviated
of
that
three-hour
wall
and
that
allowed
us
to
install
glazing
so
where
we
have
offices
planned.
Y
Now
we
have
windows
and
that's
going
to
help
reinforce
a
connection
between
the
interior
occupied
office
spaces
and
the
exterior
public
access
spaces.
We're
also
able
to
add
12,
clear
story,
windows,
those
that
you
can
see
on
the
top
elevation
to
further
kind
of
enhance
that
elevation,
as
well
as
adding
entry
canopies
over
those
two
main
entry
areas.
So
all
these
elements
help
to
kind
of
animate
that
side
of
the
building
and
to
help
encourage,
I
think,
folks,
to
kind
of
take
that
path
as
he
walked
through
there.
Y
One
thing
that's
shown
up
in
the
renderings,
but
they
don't
show
in
this
elevation
is
that
there's
a
building
mural
proposed
for
at
least
the
eastern
avenue
side
of
the
wall
as
you
go
through
and
see
some
of
the
other,
some
of
the
renderings
you'll
notice
that
and
it's
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
what
we're
presenting
and
these
renderings
is
a
possibility
of
what
these
murals
might
look
like.
Y
Z
Z
Originally
we
had
a
smaller
study
area
of
about
four
intersections,
but
at
our
meeting
last
spring,
through
discussions
with
members
of
the
city,
the
study
area
was
expanded
and
we
included
all
the
way
from
the
ramps
with
route
16
to
broadway
down
eastern
avenue,
all
the
way
to
marginal
street
to
william
street
and
pearl
street
eight
total
intersections,
and
we,
as
I
said,
we
did
the
entire
study
based
on
guidelines.
We
looked
existing
conditions,
future
no
build
conditions
without
the
project.
Z
Z
The
most
current
edition
is
the
11th
edition
and,
as
shown
here
on
the
table,
we're
projecting
480
daily
trips,
cut
that
in
half
for
the
number
of
total
vehicles
coming
to
and
from
the
site
or
about
240
with
81
trips
in
the
morning
peak
hour,
most
of
them
coming
in
most
likely
being
the
employees
and
then,
in
the
evening
peak
hour
about
44
trips
are
expected
as
part
of
our
findings.
On
the
next
slide,
we
recommended
mitigation
measures
and
access
for
the
site,
access,
driveway
being
under
stop
sight
control.
Z
Z
We
are
looking
at.
There
are
several
intersections
that
could
operate
a
little
bit
better
with
some
signal
timing
enhancements
and
we're
looking
forward
to
working
with
the
city
engineering
department
to
enhance
those
and
we'll
also
have
a
what
we
call
a
transportation
demand
management
program
in
an
effort
to
get
employees
to
carpool.
For
instance,
we'll
have
a
transportation
coordinator
to
help
facilitate
that.
Z
We
don't
have
a
graphic
for
that.
No
okay,
but
it's
it's
basically,
nothing
all
our
traffic.
All
our
truck
traffic
will
not
be
going
to
the
north
to
avoid
the
school.
That's
well
northeast
of
us
to
avoid
the
school
we're
going
to
have
all
our
trucking
go
towards
boston
and
the
bridge
as
they
are
currently
directed
now.
G
B
Your
traffic
impact
study
stated
that
your
trucks
will
be
coming
to
the
site
from
the
beacon
street
exit
that
is
closed
to
truck
traffic.
I
can't
do
that.
A
G
A
We
eventually,
how
do
they
get
in
and
out
of
the
site,
as
I
guess
I
would,
I
think,
at
some
point,
I'd
just
like
to
see
a
an
actual
visual
on
how
they
come
in
how
they
get
into
the
site.
The
management
on
the
site.
I
mean
because
it
sounds
like
you-
can
have
three
different
manufacturers,
which
could
potentially
have
a
great
an
extensive
number
of
trucks
coming
in
and
out.
So
I
think
that
that
is
pretty
critical.
V
If
you'd
like
to
go
back
to
that
slide
with
the
site
plan,
ken
can
show
you
exactly
where
trucks
will
be
coming
into
the
site
itself.
But
if
you're
talking
about
kind
of
an
overarched
arching
map,
we
can
work
on
that
as
well.
Z
It's
a
very
wide
entrance
for
trucks
to
be
able
most
likely,
as
I
said,
they'll
be
coming
from
the
the
west
to
turn
right
in
and.
I
Z
We'll
have
to
look
at
that.
I
thought
we
had
looked
at
that,
but
I
I
don't
have
a
graphic
for
that,
but
we
can
provide
that
for
the
next
hearing.
A
And
I
would
like
to
see
how
traffic
is
going
to
flow
on
the
site
and-
and
I
assume
that
you'll
have
a
management
plan
for
you
know
if
you
have
three
different
companies
to
when
their
trucks
are
going
to
come
in,
you
would
coordinate
with
the
tenants
or
who
owners,
whoever,
because
I
assume
you
don't
want
them
all
coming
in.
At
the
same
time,.
L
Because
I
I
found
it
difficult
when
we
went
over
to
the
site,
we
went
out
a
couple
weeks
ago
there
to
the
site,
all
of
a
sudden
there.
It
was
a
little
congested
so
and
I
realized
you're
going
to
be
taking
down
the
buildings
and
all.
But
if
you
had
your
285
or
whatever
posted
it'd,
be
a
little
easier
to
visually,
realize,
hey
you're
coming
or
your
colorful
pictures
might
be
visible
from
the
highway.
I
Do
you
know
if
this
will
be
at
24
hours,
buildings,
occupation,.
A
G
G
V
It
is,
it
is,
and
if
you
can
scroll
to
the
end,
if
you
don't
mind
john
and
I
I'll
with
that
I'll
end,
it
by
saying
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
board
for
allowing
us
to
present
this
evening,
and
all
of
our
experts
are
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have.
A
Okay,
well
good,
because
we're
going
to
ask
them
so
before
the
board,
I'm
gonna
open
this
to
the
public.
Does
the
board
have
any
other
comments
again?
This
is
not
gonna,
be
the
only
opportunity
go
ahead.
Maryland.
V
It
does
it
does
okay,
yep
and
of
those
133
parking
spaces.
38
of
them
will
be
ev
parking
spaces.
Okay,.
A
You're
going
to
have
to
speak
to
this
they're
gonna
be
they're,
gonna
come
back
to
us
in
october,
but
if
there's
anybody
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this,
please
come
up
to
the
microphone.
Tell
us
your
name
and
your
address
and
tell
us
what
you
want
to
say
and
if
you
don't
want
to
come
up,
you
don't
have
to.
AA
Good
evening
my
name
is
natalie
salomon
I
represent
glibtol
the
owner
of
305
eastern
ave
and
with
me,
is
the
president
of
gleeptol
ben
hogue.
So
we
are
here
today
to
raise
some
of
our
concerns.
One
of
them
is
with
respect
to
the
new
drainage
system,
and
I
will
speak
to
it
and
just
give
you
a
brief
summary
of
our
concern
and
then
mr
hogg
can
then
elaborate
on
it
with
respect
to
the
drainage
system.
So
the
proposal
is
that
there
will
be
a
brand
new
one.
By
way
of
the
background.
AA
AA
AA
I've
talked
to
council
for
295
eastern.
Have
I've
raised
our
concern?
We
do
not
have
all
the
information
right
now.
What
we
are
understanding
at
this
point
is
that
it
will
not
be
physically
possible
to
tie
into
their
new
drainage
system.
AA
As
it
is
because
the
catch
basins
are
too
low,
we
need
to
have
a
full
assessment
done
by
a
civil
engineer
and
we're
hoping
to
have
this
done
before
the
next
planning
board
meeting,
which
will
take
place
on
september
27th
by
then
we
hope
we
are
hoping
that
the
engineer
will
be
able
to
answer
the
following
questions.
AA
Number
one
number
two:
is
there
any
other
way
for
the
property
to
train
to
drain
and
we
need
to
know
how
that
can
be
done?
Obviously,
we
cannot
have
a
property
with
no
drainage
system.
This
will
create
flooding,
issues,
safety
issues
and
so
forth
and
number
three.
We
need
to
find
out
from
that
civil
engineer
if
the
proposed
drainage
system,
as
it
is
purpose
right
now,
will
actually
have
an
impact
and
create
flooding
issues
into
305
eastern
ave.
AA
I
would
let
mr
hogg
talk
more
about
the
drainage
system,
as
it
is
right
now.
I
do
have
a
comment,
though,
about
madame
chairman:
you
pointed
out
that
there
is
no
detailed
information
of
how
the
public,
not
necessarily
the
public,
but
how
the
traffic
will
be
in
that
proposed
redevelopment
and
we're
talking
about
different
things.
We're
talking
about
trucks
going
back
and
forth
and
we're
also
talking
about
the
public.
So
pedestrians
walk
in
walking
into
the
property,
and
it's
not
clear
to
us
right
now
how
this
will
be
done
and
where
they
will
go.
AA
The
concern
I
have
right
now
is
that,
if,
if,
if
that's
going
to
be
the
case,
pedestrians
will
go
through
gleepto's
property,
there
is
a
driveway
that
is
owned
by
glypto,
on
which
295
eastern
ave
currently
has
a
limited
easement
right
to
park
and
drive
its
trucks.
There
is
no
right
given
for
other
purposes,
so
we
will
need
some
more
information
with
respect
to
again
the
traffic,
how
it
will
be
done,
and
I
will
thank.
R
L
R
The
actual
outflow
pipe
that
services
the
properties
right
now,
as
was
alluded
to
earlier,
our
catch
basins
are
pretty
low.
R
Oops,
sorry
right
here,
the
site
walk
where
all
those
people
gather
right
now,
that's
basically
that's
305
eastern
ave
property
on
the
left,
that'll
be
underwater
and
it'll
be
underwater,
not
by
inches
by
feet.
So
you
know
this
is
what's
been
told
to
us
by
the
civil
engineer
who
looked
at
the
plans.
Briefly,
we
haven't
had
him
over
the
site,
we're
trying
to
get
someone
over
to
help
us
outside
of
that.
I
think
there's
been
some
allusions
to
eastern
ave
extension.
R
A
Thank
you,
that's
appreciate,
and
I
was
remiss
and
not
indicating
that
we
had
a
written.
We
had
a
written
notification
from
salomon
that
she
was
going
to
be.
She
had
some
concerns
which
he
has
articulated
here,
but
this
will
be
part
of
the
record.
Could.
A
Is
there
anyone
else
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
again?
This
won't
be
your
only
opportunity.
If
you
have
other
things,
you
can
mention
them
next
and
you
can
hopefully
work
to
get
some
of
the
answers
that
you're
looking
for.
That
being
said,
this.
A
H
H
H
We
don't
accept
that
they
have
any
such
right.
Nor
could
they
have
a
prescriptive
right
because
it's
registered
land
now
in
good
faith,
we've
been
working
with
them
and
we
will
make
our
engineer
available
if
such
time
as
they
raise
the
grade
of
their
property,
if
they
possibly
want
to
tie
into
us,
we'll
examine
that.
A
Thank
you,
that's
outside
the
purview
of
the
board
for
decision,
but
it's
appreciated
that
you
share
it
with
us.
Thank
you.
It's
not!
No!
It's!
This
is
not
a.
This
is
not
a
public
forum
for
debate
between
the
other
parties.
You're
welcome
to
do
that
off
of
unless
it's
relevant
to
the
decision.
We
at
the
board
have
to
make
right
now
and
elevation
is
clearly
not
our
decision
or
the
legal
rights
around
them.
A
So
that
being
said,
this
will
go
in
front
of
the
planning
board
on
september
27th
and
we'll
be
back
here
on
10
11..
Here
you
go.
I
Yeah,
I
can
ask
three
more
questions.
Of
course
you
may,
okay,
I
didn't
see
where
the
trash
is
gonna
go.
I
H
J
H
On
site
I
mean
I,
I
can't
point
to
it
on
the
plan,
but
but
when
we
come
back
in
october
and
when
we
go
to
the
planning
board
for
site
plan
review,
we
will
clearly
delineate
that,
and
we
heard
from
the
chair
as
well,
we
need
to
show
some
truck
movements
to
make
sure
that
they
all
work
and.
A
A
H
I
I
should
have
said
that
there
are
17
loading,
docks
or
a
bays,
so
we'll
we'll
show
those
and
how
they'll
be
coordinated.
As
the
chair
suggested
and.
I
The
last
one:
do
you
have
a
snow
removal?
Are
you
planning
to
have
it
on
the
side
if,
if,
if
so,
where
is
it
going
to
go
where
it's
going
to
stay
in
the
site?
I.
A
T
A
John
wesley,
something
does
anybody
here,
who's
going
to
need
transportation,
translation
services
for
the
next
two
cases
there
being
none.
Thank
you
and,
as
with
wesley
street
john,
is
that
what's
pronounced.
This
is
not.
We
will
not
be
making
a
decision
on
this
today,
because
it
is
the
first
time
we'll
be
hearing
it.
It
will
be
going
to
the
planning
board
on
the
27th
of
september
and
back
here
on
october,
11th
counselor.
AB
Good
evening,
madam
chairman,
members
of
the
board,
anthony
university
on
behalf
of
the
petitioner,
sending
to
my
life
to
the
petitioner,
john
scalaro
who's,
the
owner
of
the
building
in
place
john,
has
actually
been
operating.
His
mainstream
operation
there
for
almost
40
years,
right
john,
so
he
currently
it's
a
one-story
building,
it's
behind
the
on
the
parkway,
where
they
did
that
stucco
brand
new
building
a
few
years
back,
I
think,
there's
a
church
in
it
right
off
the
parkway
and
the
one-story
building.
What
he's
looking
to
do?
AB
If
you
look
at
the
plants
currently
there's
two
garage
bays,
it's
a
brick
facade,
building,
one
story,
and
in
that
brick
facade
on
the
first
floor,
they
have
four
offices,
storage
and
they
park
two
cars
inside
where
their
base
are.
He
doesn't
really.
They
don't
really
bring
material
their
masonry,
so
they
go
to
sites,
so
everything
gets
dropped
off
to
sites
it's
really
where
they
run
their
operation.
They'll
keep
some
equipment
inside
when
I
say,
equipment,
masonry
tools
or
what
have
you
and
there
are
four
offices.
AB
What
he's
looking
to
try
to
do
is
if
you
look
at
the
plans,
he's
looking
just
to
take
a
portion
of
the
first
floor
on
to
the
second
floor.
So
he's
looking
to
do
is
build
a
half
story
like
half
of
the
building
footprint
about
1500
square
feet
on
the
front
part
of
the
building,
so
he
can
move
his
offices
on
the
four
offices
in
the
conference
room
on
the
ground
level
up
to
a
new
portion
of
the
second
floor.
AB
It's
half
the
footprint
of
the
existing
building
sitting
on
the
same
footprint
of
the
existing
building.
By
doing
so
now,
he
can
move
the
offices
that
they
share
with
his
vehicles.
What
have
you
and
equipment
and
put
them
into
a
nicer
office?
On
the
second
floor,
there's
only
four
people
that
work
with
the
company
on
site
john,
and
he
has
one
of
his
performance
here
and
then
secretary
and
another
office
employee,
essentially,
three
are
usually
on
site
every
day,
which
is
john.
The
foreman
is
usually
going
to
job
sites
daily.
AB
A
AB
Right
now,
there's
two
parking
indoors:
they
would
now
if
they
wanted
to
right
now.
They
really
only
use
three
cars
and
nick
who
owns
a
property
across
the
street.
He
has
a
lot
and
he
lets
him
pocket
there.
We
need
a
spot
over
there,
so
if
they
ever
need
to,
especially
when
it
snows,
they
can
actually
put
now
four
parking
spaces
inside
and
still
utilize,
whatever
you
need
for
the
storage
for
the
masonry
items,
and
now
they
have
nice
offices
on
the
second
floor
and
all
the
surrounding
properties
other
than
the
one.
AB
AB
So
setbacks
in
the
side
yards
violations
are
only
on
the
same
footprint,
so
it's
existing
non-conforming
setback
violation.
So
he's
not
expanding
the
side,
yard
setback
existing
or
the
front
yard
setback
he's
only
building
on
that
footprint
and
he's
not
taking
the
whole
entire
floor
because
he
doesn't
need
it.
He
only
needs
that
portion
that
he
uses
for
his
office
in
a
nice
conference
room.
That's
essentially
what
he's
trying
to
do,
and
and
actually
it
works
with
what
the
intent
of
the
city
is-
is
trying
to
get
a
lot
of
off-street
parking
off.
AB
A
A
And
last
but
not
least,
I'm
assuming
it's
you
three
kind:
people,
2022
24,
519,
washington,
ave,
lorraine,
t
brown
for
a
variant
seeking
approval
to
subdivide
the
lot
containing
a
single
family
dwelling
structure,
with
the
proposed
annex
land
to
be
combined
with
the
property
known
as
13
bell
street,
which
does
not
meet
the
current
minimum
lot
size
requirement.
So
there's
a
the
good
and
the
bad
of
this
is
it's
a
variance,
so
we
can
vote
on
it
today.
A
X
My
name
is
lorraine
brown
and
I'm
the
owner
of
the
property
at
519.
Washington
avenue-
and
this
is
we
are.
This-
is
the
one
that
we're
going
to
I'm
going
to
distribute,
with
your
permission,
of
course,
to
my
brother
and
his
wife
60,
I'm
just
going
to
give
you
a
very
short
story.
It's
a
family
affair.
X
64
years
ago
my
grandmother
who
raised
me
and
my
grandfather-
I
lived
there
with
him
with
I
had
a
little
three-year-old,
so
we
wanted
to
put
a
fence
up,
but
my
father
lived
in
the
back.
My
mother,
my
father
and
joe
and
the
whole
family
lived
in
a
house
behind
us.
So
what
happened?
Was
he
didn't
have
enough
room
for
a
driveway,
so
my
grandmother
allotted
him
enough
room,
so
we
put
the
fence
up
so
he
would
have
enough
room,
but
we
want
to
make
it
legal
now.
A
G
A
B
B
E
Sir,
my
name's
joseph
carroll
and
I
own
the
property
at
13
bell
street,
my
wife,
marianne
and
I
in
this
was
just
years
ago,
as
my
sister
mentioned
informally,
gave
the
property
to
my
dad,
which
owned
the
house
then,
and
but
all
we
wanted
to
do
was
make
it
formal,
nothing's,
going
to
change
the
defense
ain't
going
to
well.
A
G
X
But
he's
my
baby
brother
by
the
way
he's.
A
G
O
A
But
one
yeah,
you
know
they're
still,
okay,
so
their
thoughts
so
so
before.
So
because
it's
a
variance
and
we'll
help
with
this,
we
have
to
walk
through
four
conditions
and
you
have
to
meet
each
one
of
the
conditions
before
legally.
We
can
allow
us
to
even
consider
it.
So
if
you
don't
meet
them,
then
we
just
can't
provide
you.
It's
not
our
choice.
It's
the
law,
so
we're
going
to
help
you
with
it,
because
they're
not
easy
and
they're
kind
of
confusing.
A
So
if
you
don't
understand,
don't
be
afraid
to
ask-
and
I
talk
really
fast
so
if
I
talk
too
fast,
just
tell
me
slow
down
so
the
first.
The
first
thing
we
have
to
determine
is
that
this
variance
is
sought
because
of
the
soil
conditions,
the
shape
or
topography
of
such
land
or
structure
and
especially
affecting
such
lander
structure,
but
not
effective,
affecting
generally
the
zoning
structure.
A
E
A
E
X
A
Okay,
desirable
relief
may
be
granted
without
substantial
detriment
to
the
public
good.
This
one's
easy
nobody's
going
to
get
upset
right.
It's
not
going
to
be
any
different
than
what
currently
exists.
The
only
people
who
are
going
to
know
what's
changed
are
the
the
office
where
you
register
this
correct,
so
there's
no
harm
to
the
public
good
and
last
desirable.
A
A
M
G
A
You
have
met
all
four
of
them
see.
I
I
tried
to
make
that
as
easy
as
I
could.
That
being
said,
do
we
have
a
motion?
Well,
first
of
all
I
did.
I
have
to
officially
say:
is
there
anybody
here
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
matter
there
being
none?
I
am
closing
the
public
participation
portion
of
this
hearing.
Do
I
have
a
motion.
B
Wait
wait
I'm
suggesting
two
conditions
once
you
have
the
applicable
standard
and
that
the
permit
shall
not
be
effective
until
approval
not
required,
plan
has
been
endorsed
by
the
planning
board.
A
A
So
that
being
said,
so
are
you
willing?
First
of
all,
are
you
willing
to
accept
those
conditions
that
john
just
talked
about?
There
are
certain
standard
conditions
that
are
not
difficult.
I
think
that
would
not
apply
here,
but
that
also
you
have
to
do
this.
You
have
to
work
with
john
so
that
you
can
understand
what
to
do
with
the
planning
board.
The
planning
board.
Yes,
so
are
you
okay
to?
Is
that,
okay
with
you
that
you'll
work
out
with
them,
and
so
you'll
properly
register
this
after
that
with
the
registry
of
deeds?
A
L
A
Articulated
with
the
with
our
second
second
second
on
maryland,
all
in
favor
okay,
so
you
got
approval,
but
you
still
have
to
do
the
step
that
john
said
before
you
can
it's
official,
okay,
yeah,
so
work
with
work
with
the
planning
department,
call
john
and
hector
and
figure
out
how
what
the
next
step
is
to
get
this
done
properly.
Okay,
thank.