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From YouTube: City Council Sub Committee Meeting of 5-9-22
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City of Chelsea, Discuss the creation of the Recreation and Parks department
A
This
meeting
will
take
place
in
the
chelsea
chambers
to
discuss
the
following
matter:
discuss
the
creation
of
recreation
and
parks
department
officials
invited
to
attend
the
subcommittee
meeting
city
manager,
tom
ambrosino,
all
honorable
members
of
the
chelsea
city
council,
the
recreational
affairs
division
director
b,
corrada
department
of
public
works
director,
lou
marmalette,
all
members
of
the
public.
At
this
time,
I'll
ask
the
clerk
to
read
the
role.
C
C
A
Okay,
this
was
an
order
that
was
resulted
from
requests
by
council
recupero
into
discussing
the
possible
creation
of
a
recreation
and
parks
department.
So,
since
this
is
his
motion
I'll
allow
him
to
open
up
the
discussion
and
allow
him
to
guide
the
questions.
D
Thank
you
for
coming
and
there's
a
few
a
couple
of
questions
we
used
to
have
an
old
park
department
we
had
one
before
and
it
consists
of
a
superintendent
of
parks,
part-time
secretary
treaty,
bw
workers
on
the
parks
department
of
parker
mission.
D
The
park
commission
was
permits
were
approved
by
the
park
commission
treated
three
to
five
members.
Was
a
commission
like
we
have
any
other
commission
like
we
have
any
commission
usually
scheduled
and
dates
were
submitted
so
that
all
had
a
chance
of
using
the
parks,
equally
organized
leagues
with
the
first
providing
they
met
the
deadline
so.
D
D
What
would
do
will
create
more
or
less
a
hands-on
approach
on
us,
making
sure
that
our
parks
are
cleaned
and
well
taken
care
of,
and
it
will
probably
cost
us
less
than
what
it
costs
us
now,
because
if
you
hire
three
employees,
what
is
three
employees
gonna
cost
fifty
thousand
a
piece,
fifty
two
thousand,
so
you
have
three.
There
will
be
a
hundred
and
fifty
hundred
sixty
thousand
and
whatever
it
could
run
on
the
dpw.
D
It
doesn't
matter
how
it
works,
because
you
could
have
you
can
even
have
b
as
the
commissioner
of
the
park
whatever
it
is,
if
that's
the
case,
but
more
or
less.
If
you
have
a
commission
like
we
used
to
have
where
it
doesn't
cost
anything,
those
are
just
people
on
the
board
deciding
what
it
is,
and
I
see
how
our
parks
are
maintained.
D
They're
not
maintained
as
well
as
they
could
be.
I
see
it
all
the
time.
I
get
complaints
all
the
time
from
a
lot
of
people
that
the
parks
are
not
maintained.
Well,
this
will
be
a
division
that
will
take
care
of
just
the
parks.
A
lot
of
other
cities
have
it.
They
all
see
all
cities.
Most
90
of
the
cities
have
a
program
that
runs
in
a
parks,
department,
parks
and
recreation.
They
all
have
it,
and
I
was
wondering
I
said
he
should
have
the
same
thing
in
the
long
run.
D
It
would
be
beneficial
for
us
to
have
one
than
not
to
have
one,
because
you
don't
know
it's
the
cost
of
maintaining
increases,
so
will
the
cost
to
us
of
iron
oxide
firm
to
do
it
and
still,
when
you
hire
an
outside
firm,
do
we
have
someone
that
particularly
goes
on
top
of
them
and
says
here
you
didn't
do
a
right
job
or
you
didn't
do
a
great
whatever.
It
is
right,
and
I
believe
that,
but
this
is
my
own
opinion.
D
Personal
opinion
is
that
if
the
city
has
a
hand
on
experience
in
doing
and
cleaning
his
own
parks
will
get
a
better
job,
because
they've
got
to
be
accountable
more
than
a
company.
The
only
thing
you
can
do
with
a
company
is
don't
hire
her
again
because
they
got
to
bid
it.
So
if
they
do
a
crappy
job
one
year,
they
turn
around
and
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
get
our
money
in
next
year
then
hire
somebody
else.
So
this
is
the
difference
between
us
having
our
own
division
and
hiring
an
outside
company.
D
E
F
F
In
addition
to
that,
though,
there
I
also
had
outside
vendors
doing
that
were
contracted
to
help
with
parks.
It's
a
it's
a
significant
task.
Last
about
a
year
ago,
roughly
I
conceded
to
this
council
that
we
needed
to
do
something
better.
We
presented
at
one
point
a
a
idea
to
have
a
robust
sort
of
neighborhood
group.
The
council
decided
they
wanted
to
go
a
different
direction
and
we
at
least
I
presented
to
the
council
at
that
point.
Look
it!
F
I
didn't
recommend
that
in
this
year's
budget,
I'm
still
thinking
about
it.
The
only
reason
I
didn't
recommend
creating
a
separate
parks
division
within
the
dpw
in
this
year's
budget,
or
simply
adding
more
people
to
focus
exclusive
on
that
was
two
for
one.
We
had
a
leadership
change
in
the
dpw,
so
I
wanted
to
give
the
new
leadership
a
chance
to
see
what
we're
doing
in
our
park
see
if
they're,
what
their
recommendation
was
for
a
way
to
make
our
parks
better.
F
We
do,
as
you
said,
have
a
contract
on
board
this
year,
as
we
did
last
year
to
take
care
of
the
park,
we're
paying
that
vendor,
roughly
200
000
dollars
to
do
weekly
and
daily
work
at
all
the
various
parts
in
the
city
as
our
outside
vendor.
In
addition,
dpw
is
helping,
but
we
don't
have
at
this
point
a
dedicated
crew,
one
of
the
tasks
I've
asked
who
to
do
this
season
is
pay
close
attention
to
this
vendor.
F
Let's
see
if
we're
getting
value
from
that
contract
and
two
make
an
assessment
as
to
what
the
personnel
needs
would
be.
If
we
want
to
pay
some
particular
attention
to
pax,
do
we
need
three
individuals?
Do
we
need
a
supervisor
and
three
waivers?
Do
we
need
a
supervisor
and
two
laborers?
What
will
it
take
to
comprehensively
clean
our
pack
and,
in
addition,
do
we
need
in
addition
to
that,
will
we
still
need
some
services,
maybe
not
as
robust
as
we
have
right
now,
but
some
services
from
an
outside
vendor?
F
He
is
going
he's
been
tasked
with
evaluating
that
work
this
year
and
then
giving
me
a
recommendation
at
the
close
of
this
calendar
so
that
by
next
budget
year,
fy
24.
I
will
have
something
in
my
budget.
There
was
a
second
reason
I
was
reluctant
to
do
this
this
year,
and
that
is
because
the
fy
23
budget,
before
you
already
has
13
new
positions
in
it,
and
I
was
getting
to
a
point
where
I
felt
adding
another
four
positions
in
the
budget
was
a
little
too
much
to
absorb
in
just
one
fiscal
year.
F
I
don't
think
in
fy
24
we'll
be
looking
to
add
that
many
new
positions
in
the
budget
and
so
I'll
feel
better
about
beefing
up
a
dp,
a
potential
dpw
parks
division.
I
think
if
we
have
a
dedicated
group
of
dpw
employees
focused
exclusively
on
parks
as
many
cities
do,
we
will
be
able
to
accomplish
what
you
want
to
accomplish
in
the
in
the
realm
of
maintenance
in
the
realm
of
programming.
Honestly,
I
think
we
have
a
structure
in
place
that
works.
We
have
a
recreation,
cultural
affairs
division.
B
F
F
Pamphlets
available
and
lots
of
places
in
city
hall,
including
my
office.
It's
a
pretty
robust
schedule
of
events
for
this
coming
season
that
both
has
programming
within
some
of
the
school
buildings
and
programming
out
at
our
parks.
Could
it
be
even
more
robust,
of
course,
and
I
think
we
are
looking
to
improve
and
add
to
the
amount
of
money
we're
spending,
particularly
given
that
this
was
a
priority
of
the
oppa
community
advisory
committee
to
do
more
in
terms
of
youth
activities.
F
So
I
do
expect
we'll
be
spending
some
additional
money.
It
will
likely
be
that,
certainly
by
fy24
we
will
have
more
money
in
the
recreation
cultural
affairs
budget
for
programming.
But
in
addition,
I
do
expect
that,
with
some
of
this
arpa
money
that
the
committee
has
advocated
for
spending
on
youth
activities,
we
may
be
able
to
do
even
more
in
advance
of
the
next
budget
season.
F
G
F
Could
I
guess,
recreate
what
the
city
had
at
one
time,
which
is
a
parks
commission,
an
independent
authority
that
had
his
own
employees?
I
just
wouldn't.
I
don't
think
you
need
to
kind
of
blow
up
the
current
system
to
accomplish
what
you
want
to
accomplish.
I
think
we
can
accomplish
it
within
the
current
organizational
structure
you
have,
but
I
do
think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it
is
going
to
require
hiring
some
additional
dpw
employees,
who
will
exclusively,
at
least
during
the
period
from
april
to
october,
dedicate
their
work
to
parks.
A
A
E
E
E
Another
thing
is,
I
I
haven't
checked
yet,
but
I
gotta
complain
that
the
toilets
they
don't
open
when
the
people
are
using
the
the
field
and
they
took
the
toilets
away
or
something
you
know.
Instead
of
getting
better
we're
going
going
worse,
that's
just
a
question
and
regarding
maintenance,
we
need
to
do
better
highland
park
highland
a
little
park
over
100
bellingham
somewhere
there.
I
got
a
lot
of
complaints
about.
E
E
F
F
The
acting
dpw
public
commission
has
been
told
that,
notwithstanding
the
fact
that
he
didn't
get
new
specific
employees
for
pacs
in
this
budget,
he
does
have
to
look
at
allocating
his
resources
this
summer,
so
that
more
attention
is
paid
to
parked
within
his
existing
workforce,
and
so
we
are
going
to
try
to
have
that
become
a
bit
of
a
priority
for
the
dpw
over
the
course,
the
next
few
months
to
take
care
of
parks.
Notwithstanding
that
we
don't
yet
have
a
parks
division
within
dpw.
C
Thank
you,
so
I
so
thank
you
to
my
counselor's
counselor
recoupero,
for
for
bringing
this
to
our
attention
and
scheduling
this
meeting.
I
have
a
few
clarifying
questions
just
to
lay
the
context
and
ensure
that
this
is
current,
that
I
have
my
information,
correct,
the
department
of
recreation
and
cultural
affairs.
F
It
is,
but
it
operates
as
a
sort
of
independent
department,
just
as
the
library
and
elder
affairs
does,
but
technically
in
our
organization,
it
is
under
the
jurisdiction
of
a
health
and
human
services
director,
and
that
is
the
organized
organizational
structure
that
existed
here.
When
I
arrived,
I'm
not
really
sure
I
see
a
need
to
change
that
we
do.
We
are
hoping
to
hire
a
new
hhs
director
over
the
course
of
the
next
few
months.
C
Okay,
so
the-
and
this
is
from
speaking
for
my
constituents
and
attending
meetings-
I
know
that
the
overall
sentiment
from
conversations
happening
because
of
arpa
is,
you
know
our
residents
are
seeking
more
programming
and
more
capacity
for
our
recreational
departments
and
our
community
investments
in
that.
So
I
guess
my
next
question
would
be.
My
assumption
is
that
this
department
is
underfunded.
But
please
enlighten
me:
what
is
the
funding
currently
for
this
department
that
falls
under
hhs.
F
I
mean,
I
would
say
it
has
significant
more
funding
than
when
I
arrive.
That's
for
sure
I
mean
I
did
make
a
point
to
beef
up
this
recreation
and
cultural
affairs
division
because
I
wanted
more
programming.
F
Could
it
use
more
funding?
Yes,
it
could
and
I
think
there
are
opportunities
given
the
priority
that
the
oppa
community
advisory
committee
identified
in
the
money
it's
set
aside
for
youth
activity,
so
I
do
expect
that
there
should
be
additional
money
and
it
is
my
intent
to
put
a
little
some
additional
money
in
the
fy
24
budget.
I
didn't
really
include
a
whole
lot
of
new
money
in
the
fy
23
budget,
because
I
anticipated
we
would
be
spending
some
of
these
oppa
funds
on
youth
programming.
What.
F
C
H
Hi
everyone-
I
I
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
come
to
this
meeting
so
right
now
we
have
two
managers
and
we
have
probably
three
program
assistants.
Hopefully
to
have
a
fourth
program
assistance
come
this
fall.
C
H
So
that's
a
very
good
question
when
I
came
here
in
2002,
what
attracted
me
to
this
city
was
not
community
schools.
What
attracted
me
because
my
graduate
work
was
in
recreation
administration-
was
that
I
was
perplexed.
Why
this
beautiful
complicated
little
city
didn't
have
a
recreation
department.
F
B
H
H
It
has
a
wide
variety
of
different
programming.
Sorry,
so
the
when
I
came
here
and
I
and
spoke
with
the
the
past
city
manager,
it
didn't
look
like
at
all
that
they
were
going
to
pull
out
of
hibernation,
the
recreation
of
cultural
affairs,
which
was
in
the
charter.
They
were
going
to
keep
with
community
schools,
and
at
that
point
I
called
the
coalition
of
community
schools
in
washington.
Dc
spoke
with
executive
directors.
There
and
again
they
said
you
know.
H
H
so
I'm
extremely
proud
of
the
staff,
and
also
all
of
you
who
have
helped
to
keep
it
affordable
and
also
have
again
supported
in
every
effort
to
have
high
quality
programming
coming
in
and
this
summer
is
no
different.
If
you
have
a
chance
to
look
at
our
booklet
and
really
look-
and
I
asked
the
city
council
to
please-
do
that-
just
look
at
the
different
programming
and
lots
is
free
from
programming
from
around.
You
know
the
boston
area
that
we
just
can't
replicate
anywhere.
H
So
yes,
at
this
moment
in
2015
2016,
when
city
manager
ambrosino
came,
he
pulled
out
of
hibernation
recreation.
Cultural
flair
is
the
name.
Community.
Schools
has
come
under
as
a
program
which
it
was
supposed
to
be.
If
you
look
at
the
charter,
it
was
a
program
underneath
recreation
and
cultural
affairs.
B
C
H
I
think
you
know
I
look
at
other
cities
all
the
time
and
you
know,
even
though
we
don't
have
the
amount
of
land
or
we
have
the
amount
of
space
or
we
have
a
waterfront
or
we
don't
have
a
pool.
We
try
to
be
able
and
we're
going
to
do
even
a
better
effort
of
of
working
with
other
organizations,
we're
now
having
programming
in
the
library
programming
in
the
senior
center
and
hopefully
more
programming
up
at
the
boys
and
girls
club
on
off
hours.
So
we
can
do
more
so
again
before.
C
H
Through
the
day
from
nine
to
probably
8
30
at
night
and
that
not
to
mention
we
are,
we
concentrate
on
the
permitting
the
the
leagues
of
the
pardon
me
permitting
the
parks,
the
athletic
fields
and
courts,
and
we
are
also
working
hard
now
to
with
the
school
department
to
see
more
accessibility
to
the
stadium
to
merit
park,
which
is
you
know,
mary
c
burke,
complex
and
to
carter,
parked
again
how
we
can
have
better
planning,
better
structures,
better
schedules.
So
we
could
be
able
to
use
those
even
more
since
the
pandemic.
H
All
new
people
have
come
into
the
school
department
and
for
two
years
we
have
had.
You
know
no
really
relationship,
because
they've
been
working
so
hard
remotely.
But
this
year
has
been
a
turning
point
because
we're
now
all
back
to
work
and
so
we're
meeting
all
the
people
who
are
in
the
schools
and
forming
those
relationships
and
I'm
hoping
again
that
that
will
lead
to
even
more
accessibility.
H
I
would
say
the
biggest
challenge
right
now
is
getting
people
back
to
our
classes
to
get
people
back
to
the
classes
that
we've
had
the
amount
of
of
attendance
we've
had
before
I
mean
we
would
have
we've
had
three.
We
have
three
seasons,
a
fall
winter
season
a
spring
and
a
summer,
and
we
would
do
anywhere
from
maybe
500
to
625
people
who
would
register.
H
H
That's
not
been
easy
to
wear
masks
in
schools,
especially
if
you're
at
one
point
we
had
before
the
pandemic,
about
450
esl,
even
in
students
and
right
now
we're
probably
about
120
and
so
we're
just
like
slowly
but
truly
trying
to
get
more
and
more
to
come
each
season,
you
know.
So
it's
it's
bringing
people
back
after
this
pandemic.
C
F
Just
before
I
turn
to
the
bud,
I
just
this
idea
of
community
schools
has
always
driven
me
a
bit
crazy.
Since
I
arrived
here,
it's
really
just
a
branding
of
programming
in
the
schools.
Every
parks
and
rec
department
does
programming
within
school
buildings.
It's
just
our
recreation
and
cultural
affairs
department,
and
it
has
that
name
for
it's
just
it's
semantics.
It
could
be
called
the
parks
and
recreation
department.
F
It
has
programming
in
the
schools
like
every
other
parks
and
rec
department,
and
it
has
programming
outside
in
the
parks,
and
so
the
community
schools
is
just
a
brand
for
what
goes
on
within
the
school
buildings.
I've
really
tried
hard
to
get
away
from
that
branding,
because
somehow
it's
led
people
the
impression
that
the
city
really
doesn't
have
a
parks
and
recreation
department,
and
that
is
not
true.
F
Our
recreation
cultural
affairs
department
is
indeed
a
parks
and
rec
department,
as
you
would
understand
that
in
in
most
other
communities
in
terms
of
the
budget,
so
the
proposed
fy
23
budget
is
just
over
800
000
dollars.
That's
up
about
10
percent.
Over
last
year.
I
will.
I
don't
have
the
fy
15
budget,
which
was
in
place
when
I
arrived,
but
I
would
venture
to
say
it's
probably
a
third
of
this
amount.
I
My
sister
counselor
asked
some
very
good
questions
and
the
one
that
really
that
that
I
feel
that
I
really
am
concerned
about
is
about
capacity,
and
while
I
understand
that
you're
not
at
full
capacity
yet
in
terms
of
the
people
I'm
talking
to
b,
I'm
sorry,
I
shouldn't
be
talking
to
b
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
people
that
are
volunteering.
I
My
concern
is
about
capacity
in
terms
of
staff.
Now
I
I
also
like
want
to
be
clear
that
before
I
was
on
the
council,
I
got
on
2016.
There
wasn't
a
recreation
department
or
it
was
dormant,
as
bee
said,
so
there
wasn't
anything
happening
in
terms
of
even
trying
to
do
programming
outside
of
that
everything
was
the
community
schools
there's
so
much
to
to
talk
about
here,
but
I
guess
the
biggest
concern
that
I
have
sorry
b.
I
I
guess
the
biggest
concern
that
I
have
and
I'll
just
lay
it
on
the
table,
and
I
might
ask
a
recuperal
question.
That
might
not
be
a
question.
Sorry
recupera,
okay,
but
I
guess
the
issue
here
is
the
chelsea
community.
Schools
in
it
of
itself
is
an
amazing
abundant
program
and
we
re
ignited
the
recreational
department
and
it's
like
hey
b,
handle
all
of
this,
and
I
just
feel
like
it's
a
lot
and
from
the
beginning
when
we
first
wanted
when
we
were
asking
you
to
recreate
the
recreational
department.
I
So
how
are
we?
We
can't
just
have
a
subcommittee
meeting
and
ask
you
for
more
money
and
we're
going
to
react
to
an
issue
when
it
arrives.
We
can
avoid
this
from
the
beginning,
with
better
planning.
This
isn't
saying
that
you
haven't
done
your
due
diligence
or
b
or
anyone
hasn't
it's
about.
Okay,
we
started
this
new
recreational
department
in
2016.
I
I
I
live
across
the
street
from
the
park
that
councilor
lopez
talks
about.
It
doubles
as
a
dog
part
a
tot
lot.
It's
the
teenagers
hang
out
there
because
we
don't
have
recreational
activities
for
teenagers,
while
the
recreational
department
has
done
a
great
job
at
doing
events
that
cater
to
our
younger
population,
there
is
very,
very
minimal
for
our
teenagers
and
so
they're
hanging
out
at
these
parks.
That's
also
a
dog
park,
but
it's
not
they're
signs
that
say
no
dog
waste
and
let
five
feet
next
to
it.
There's
like
a
doggy
station
with
poop
bags.
I
What
are
we
doing?
I
just
feel
like
we're:
not
we're
not
really
paying
attention
to
what
we're
doing
and
it
just
we.
We
just
need
to
get
better
about
it.
It's
not
enough
to
say
next
year
we're
going
to
look
lumalet's
going
to
look
at
the
outside.
Why
are
we
paying
outside
vendors
to
clean
our
parks?
I
can
tell
you
right
now
that
outside
vendor
is
not
working.
I
can
tell
you
right
now
the
money
we're
giving
roka
to
clean
these
parks.
It's
not
working.
There
are
things
they
cannot
do.
I
There
are
tools
they
cannot
use,
so
we
can't
just
say
and
bypass
and
say:
oh
it's
all
done,
because
roc
is
handling
it.
That's
not
the
truth.
So
I'm
look.
I'm
not
here
to
bite
your
head
off,
but
I'm
here
to
just
give
like.
Let's
be
real
about
this,
like
we're,
not
really
doing
a
good
job
at
paying
attention
at
what
we're
doing,
and
how
do
we
organize
this
so
that
everybody
wins.
G
I
F
I
agree
with
you:
I've
got
to
do
something
about
park
maintenance,
I'm
just.
I
just
need
a
tiny
bit
more
time
to
figure
out
the
final
end
result
in
the
interim,
though
I'm
not
ignoring
the
parks.
Lew
has
been
told.
You've
got
to
take
your
existing
streets
and
sidewalk
crew
and
figure
out
a
way
to
get
them
to
spend
more
time
in
the
parks,
and
we
need
to
do
that.
Who
knows
that
and
we're
going
to
try
to
do
that
over
the
course
of
the
summer.
F
F
I
My
question
is
also
mimi:
granny
does
great
programming
in
the
city
right.
Should
that
not
be
in
the
recreational
department
from
the
beginning,
she
was
in
the
planning
department
and
I
argued
about
her
position
period.
And
what
did
you
do?
You
gave
her
a
union
position
and
you
put
her
in
your
office
who,
what
department
is
she
and
I
still
don't
know-
does
she
do
good
work?
Absolutely
I'm
not
taking
anything
away
from
her,
but
it
also
undermines
the
cr.
I
The
creation
of
these
departments
that
we're
doing
in
order
to
provide
more
programming
for
our
community
and
my
concern
here
is
more
so
about
programming
for
older
teenagers,
because
we
do
easter
egg
hunts
and
candy
canes.
That's
beautiful!
It's
great
when
my
daughter
was
younger.
She
loved
that
stuff.
I
I
had
to
beg
her
to
come
to
a
city
council
meeting,
because
there
isn't
anything
for
her
to
do
now
in
in
the
community,
and
so
and
and
also,
let's
be
honest,
that
when
you
came
in
as
well,
the
permitting
part
of
the
job
was
in
the
city
clerk's
office,
so
we're
just
still
we're
still
getting
our
feet
wet
here.
In
terms
of
trying
to
figure
all
of
this
out,
but
it
doesn't
make
sense
for
one
department
to
be
giving
out
permits,
I
so
let's
say
I'm
gonna
house
an
event
like
you
know
I
do.
I
The
movement
basketball
league,
I'm
gonna,
have
an
event.
Okay
b,
let
me
get
a
permit.
Thank
you
b.
I
go
to
the
park
and
the
park
is
a
hot
mess.
So
then
I
have
to
go,
and
luckily
I
have
phone
numbers,
so
I
could
call
dpw
but
the
regular
person.
That's
renting
these
parks.
Doesn't
they
don't
have
these
options
so
that
there
is
an
intersection
here
that
we
need
to
kind
of?
So
when
you
say
address
it
systemically
right.
Is
that
what
you're
talking
about
about
feeding
the
flowers
and
the
intersections?
I
Because
that's
where
we
really
that's
the
big
issue
that
we
have
it's,
that
the
one
department
doesn't
talk
to
the
other,
and
then
you
have
one
in
your
office.
I
don't
know
what
department
she's
in
but
she's
doing
events
and
she's
getting
a
whole
lot
of
money.
It's
just
all
of
it
is
just
everywhere.
F
F
That
is
something
that
we
need
to
work
on
and
I
believe
the
two
of
them
have
been
trying
to
establish
that
in
the
last
a
couple
of
months.
You
know
in
terms
of
mimi
whose
position
is
civic
design
and
engagement
specialist,
some
of
the
stuff
she
does-
is
sort
of
closely
connected
with
our
recreation
cultural
affairs
department,
some
of
the
stuff
she
does,
though,
is
also
closely
connected
to
a
community
development
department,
so
she
is
housed
in
community.
F
I
know
she
sat
in
my
office
for
quite
a
long
time,
but
that
was
really
due
to
space
constraints.
We've
sorted
that
out,
she
is
back
in
the
department
in
which
she
is
budgeted
the.
So
there
is
a
close
connection
between
what
she
does
and
what
recreation
cultural
affairs
does.
But
she
also
does
some
aspects
that
are
closely
related
to
the
work
of
alex
trains
department.
F
I
If
I
don't
know
if
we're
coming
out
of
a
pandemic
with
everything
that's
been
going
on
in
the
city
and-
and
I
understand
that
part-
I
just
think
that
we
have
a
lot
of
need,
a
lot
of
need
and-
and
it's
not
enough
to
continue
to
invite
people
to
our
city
and
then
be
like
bring
your
car.
Your
your
kids
to
this
crappy
park,
where
there's
literally
poop
everywhere.
C
I
F
I
H
Schools,
the
way
that
I
approached
community
schools
through
a
lot
of
consultation-
not
just
my
own-
came
from
it-
was
recreation
with
completely
recreation
based
community
schools
has
different
types.
It
could
be
the
children's
aid
society,
the
molly
starks,
it
could
be
the
broad
a
school
can
be
a
community
school.
It
takes
different
shapes
and
different
forms,
depending
on
who
runs
it.
H
So
when
I
came
in
as
a
background
of
recreation
administration-
and
I
saw
a
lack
of
that-
I
also
saw
my
predecessors
how
much
recreation
they
had
in
there
that
I
continue
to
have
that.
I
feel
cr
community
schools
at
this
point
is
back
to
where
it
should
be
as
a
program
underneath
recreation
and
cultural
affairs,
and
we
are
going
to
look
at
it
as
an
act,
a
more
academic
approach
into
it
to
have
a
lot
more
aspects
of
that,
and
we
have
to
develop
that.
H
I
I
want
to
remind
the
the
counselors
that
we
got
started
in
probably
getting
new
staff
in
2017-18
and
then
for
two
years.
We've
had
a
pandemic.
Here,
we've
done
complete
remote
for
two
years.
We
couldn't
get
into
those
spaces.
So
it's
not
like
all
these
programs
we
weren't
doing.
We
did
an
incredible
job
when
this
broke
out.
I
remember
even
when
it
broke
out
in
that
in
march.
I
think
it
was
almost
600
different
refunds
and
credits.
H
We
brought
back
to
people
quickly
and
we
got
right
on
to
remote
and
we
held
classes
ever
since
and
didn't
stop.
So
I
think
we're
up
and
taking
a
breath
right
now
we're
starting
to
rise
up
again.
We've
got
very,
very
good
staff,
and
I
do
believe
that
we're
trying
to
get
more
focused
of
what
we
will
do
outside
what
we
will
do
inside
and
how
we
will
expand
our
partners.
We
just
had
a
recreation
or
an
arts
and
culture
strategic
plan
for
five
years.
H
I
do
believe
when
it
comes
to
mimi,
grainy
and
her
role.
I
see
that
role
like
a
main
streets.
I
see
that,
like
a
creative
salem,
I
see
it
very
different
from
recreation
and
cultural
affairs,
and
I
also
think
that,
just
because
I
do
recreation,
I'm
not
the
and
all
and
be
all
of
recreation,
everybody
should
be
participating
in
recreation.
We
we
applaud
when
the
collaborative
does
things,
so
it
needs
to
be
completely
open
to
many
people
in
in
order
to
do
that.
H
I
do
agree
when
it
comes
to
the
amount
of
animals
in
in
in
in
the
city
that
are
just
wonderful,
but
places
for
them
to
go
is
very,
very
difficult,
and
I
think
the
planning
and
development
understands
that
and
we
just
have
to
with
dpw
figure
out
how
to
be
able
to
have
those
spaces
for
these
precious
animals,
because
I
do
agree,
we
want
we
go
to
a
park
and
it's
not
as
clean
as
it
could
be
and
we
have
children.
H
We
do
also
understand
that
we're
we
need
to
do
more
with
adolescents,
but
I
do
think
right
now
we're
back
on
the
rebound.
We've
got
better
staff
and
we're
just
going
to
keep
cr
trying.
I
think
that
we're
very,
very
open
to
your
ideas
and
and
to
your
critique
and
it
it
is
just
a
to
me,
I'm
very
proud
to
be
in
where
I
am
right
now.
I
still
have
energy
and
enthusiasm
for
this
beautiful
city
and
we
will
just
continue
to
plug
away
so.
H
Youth
commission,
right
now,
that's
been
the
hardest
this
year
it
was
very
hard,
but
we're
up
to.
I
think
five
members
right
now
we're
going
to
go
to
fifth
or
sixth,
so
I
think
we'll
probably
have
our
seven
by
the
time,
hopefully
or
at
least
six
by
the
time
that
all
of
you
go
on
break
and
they're
really
strong.
So
we
thank
all
of
you
for
helping
us
in
any
way
or
spreading
your
word
and
we
found
the
best
way
to
do.
H
A
A
G
Thank
you.
So
you
know
my
children
signed
up
for
some
of
these
programs
that
the
programs
are
great
swimming
classes,
dance
classes.
I
mean
it's
amazing.
G
I
do
agree
with
my
fellow
colleagues
that
you
know
the
teen
ages,
which
is
where
my
daughter
is
heading
right
now
and
which
is
what
many
of
the
concerns
I
hear
in
my
district
is
what
is
my
teenager
going
to
be
able
to
do?
They
don't
really
want
to
go
to?
You
know
the
the
programs
that
exist
already.
They
want
to
be
at
the
parks.
Physically,
you
know
doing
things
in
the
parks,
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
just
share
a
little
bit
aside
from
sports.
What
what
other
programs
yeah.
H
Can
I
can
I
say
I
remember
this
conversation
with
marty
blank
who
was
executive
director
of
community
schools
long
ago,
and
he
says
b:
where
are
you
holding
your
classes?
I
said
in
middle
schools,
he
says
b.
What
do
you
really
think
these
teenagers
are
going
to
come
back
to
a
middle
school?
He
says
think
about
that.
I
think
you're
going
to
have
struggle
with
that.
So
it's
now
with
new
administration.
What
more
programming?
Besides
the
williams
and
the
clark
that
we
can
get
into
other
schools
and
that's
what
we
have
been
talking
about.
H
You
know
we're
we're
and
we're
again:
it's
not
all
about
sports.
I
have
so
many
people
that
come
to
me
and
their
children.
Don't
do
sports,
they're
really
involved
into
poetry
and
art
and
the
creative.
So
we,
if
you
look
in
the
booklet,
I'll
see
you'll
see
that
there's
a
little
bit
more
for
teenagers.
We
have
shooting
touch.
That
is
a
program
that
is
in
rwanda
half
time
the
time
in
africa
and
half
the
time
in
boston.
We
have
brought
them
on
free
programming.
Tenacity
has
been
incredible
with
the
us
tennis
association.
H
We
have
teenagers
that
are
in
that
we
have
we're
we're
bringing
on
martial
arts
has
come
back,
thank
god,
taylor,
we're
bringing
back
with
youth
and
adults,
so
we're
taking
a
breath
and
hopefully
rebounding
you
know.
I'd
like
I'd
like
to
rebound
faster.
Then
you
know
I
think
covet
is,
is
coming
back
a
little
bit
right
now,
but
we're,
I
think,
we're
in
a
good
we're
in
a
good.
G
As
well
awesome,
so
I
want
to
echo
also
something
that
some
of
my
colleagues
mentioned.
So
I
really
do
think
it's
it.
We
should
stick
to
hiring
in
within
our
city
right
instead
of
contracting
outside
the
city
and
full
disclosure.
I
know
you
mentioned
la
collaborativa
earlier
part
of
la
collaborativa.
G
On
my
other
hand,
but
why
are
we
not
able
to
continue
to
partner
with
some
of
our
local
agencies
and
non-profits
to
continue
to
have
youth
in
the
parks
during
the
summer?
I
know
many
of
our
firefighters
police
officers,
some
folks
that
work
in
the
courts
used
to
be
park
rangers
and
they
some
of
my
colleagues,
were
park
rangers
and
not
not
just
that
they
were
park
rangers
and
that
they
were
in
the
parks,
but
they
held
a
circle
of
friends
who
then
hey?
G
G
I've
worked
for
la
canada
and
there's
other
agencies
and
program
youth
programs
in
the
city
that
could
do
that
that
we
can
hand
this
task
of
outreach
and,
and
promotion
of
you
know,
using
our
parks
and
bringing
our
parks
to
life
through
our
youth
right
and-
and
you
know,
one
of
I
think
one
of
the
best
things
that
this
this
brought
throughout
the
years
that
it
was
happening
was
that
you
saw
less
drug
activity
and
less
crime
in
the
parks
and
and
right
now
exiting
covid
and
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
that.
G
We're
seeing
a
lot
of
the
opioid
crisis.
We're
seeing
a
lot
of
you
know
a
lot
of
our
loved
ones
that
are
having
challenges
with
substances
sleeping
in
the
parks
or
using
these
substances
in
the
parks,
and
so
it
would
be
great
to
have.
You
know,
get
gain
more
control
of
our
parks,
and
I
know
that
we
didn't
really
touch
a
safety.
G
H
I
think,
for
years
summer,
youth
employment
has
just
done
a
miraculous
job
on
on
pulling
together
people
in
park
rangers
again,
we
just
came
into
this
in
2017-18
and
there's
been
new
leadership
and
a
pandemic.
So
I
think
what
you're
saying
I'm
very
happy
to
be
able
to
we're
having
conversations
with
people
from
you
know,
from
summer
youth
employment
to
be
able
to
see
if
we
can
expand
a
lot
more.
H
H
I
just
want
to
say
to
everybody
too:
I
there's
a
lot
about.
Oh,
we
have
to
be.
We
have
we
these.
These
parks
have
to
be
clean,
and
I
completely
understand
that,
but
just
not
that
it's
all
in
dpw.
I
just
feel
so
strongly
about.
Again
we
have
a
campaign
for
mental
health,
a
campaign
for
keep
america
beautiful.
H
They
have
a
lot
to
do
with
it,
but
people
themselves
being
very
conscious
of
of
being
able
to
throw
their
trash
and
be
able
to
take
care
of
the
parks.
And
it's
not
just
the
city
to
do
that.
And
I
don't
think
anybody
would
disagree
with
me
on
that.
But
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
work
we're
conscious
and
we
start
teaching
our
youth
about
even
in
schools
of
taking
care
of
our
of
our
environment.
J
So,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
great
job
that
you
do,
because
I
really
believe
that-
and
I
wouldn't
be
saying
it
otherwise,
I'm
going
to
just
address
something
that
that
I
usually
address
with
problems
that
we
have
in
in
our
community,
and
that
is
the
very
importance
of
being
proactive
in
solving
some
of
these
problems.
J
When
counselor
vedau
was
talking,
I
was
I
was
found
myself
nodding
because
of
the
things
that
she
was
saying
are
absolutely
right
in
the
fact
that
I
think
teenagers
in
this
community
need
more
productive
things
to
do,
and
you
know
I
can
look
at
your
programming
now
I
mean
we.
We
work
together
to
bring
martial
arts
here,
which
is
a
skill
that
people
can
have
to.
H
J
It
back,
they
have
to
practice
at
home,
they
develop
it
and
it's
something
that
they
keep
for
for
the
rest
of
their
life.
If
they,
if
they,
you
know,
also
things
like
music
right.
Yes,
how
many
kids
want
to
learn
how
to
play
the
guitar?
That's
something
that's
productive
that
that
they
have
to
practice
that
that
keeps
them
occupied
and
not
out
on
the
street
doing
something
else.
Okay.
J
We
have
to
play
the
long
game
here,
and-
and
so
I
I
think
it's
super
important
to
invest
money
not
only
in
additional
programming
to
reach
more
kids,
but
also,
I
think
we
do
have
to
take
a
look,
and
I
you
know
I
I
was
having
these
discussions.
You
know
you
know
parking
garage,
yeah,
youth,
center
parking
garage
youth
center.
J
I
mean
they're
both
very
important,
but
but
I
think
that
I
think
that
if
we,
whichever
decision
we
make
to
go
with
first,
I
I
think
that
we
can't
neglect
the
other.
The
other
thing
too,
but
but
my
point
is,
is
really
that
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
different
issues
that
chelsea
faces
housing
right,
public
safety,
different
different
types
of
issues
where
we're
trying
our
hardest
to
try
to
make
the
lives
of
our
residents
better,
more
productive
and
our
and-
and
you
know,
try
to
pull
our
city
up
a
level.
J
So
so
I
would
really
suggest
to
the
city
manager.
I
I
really
don't
care
what
structure
these
things
take
as
long
as
it
it
really
gets
done
and
we're
putting.
You
know
our
shoulder
behind
an
effort
to
really
make
some
of
this
stuff
happen,
and
I
I
I
I
really
believe
I
mean
you
know.
People
may
be
surprised
that.
J
But
you
know
I:
I
really
think
that
this
is
something
that
we
should
invest
in
and
and
to
try
to
be
proactive.
H
So,
thank
you,
counselor,
taylor
and
and
everyone
again
I
wanna
keep
saying
please
look
in
our
programming.
I
think
people
get
that
book
and
don't
even
look
at
it.
People
come
to
me
and
say
you
have
guitar
classes.
We
have
guitar
classes,
we
are
having.
We
are
having
music
production
classes
more
than
people
when,
when
they're
asking
me,
I
know
we're
having
them,
but
people
are
not
looking
and
looking
at
what
we
do
and
not
to
say
that
we
can't
do
more,
but
we
have
to
for
capacity.
H
We
have
to
fill
those
classes
and
we
have
to
get
the
advertisement
and
out
and
bring
people
in
and
and
again
go
to
different
places.
So
I.
J
I
just
have
one
short
co,
one
more
short
comment,
and
that
is
that
is
for
the
city
manager,
about
enforcement.
J
Okay,
we're
talking
about
poop
all
over
the
st
I
mean
some
of
this
has
to
do
with
enforcement.
We
have
the
same
issue
with
snow
removal
and
everything
else,
I'm
just
saying,
maybe
a
better
job
at
enforcement
and
education.
So
the
public
knows
better.
You
know
selling
it
like.
This
is
your
responsibility
as
a
resident
and
then
enforcing
it.
That's
all.
D
D
The
purpose
here
was
to
create
to
clean
our
parks
to
have
a
division
to
clean
our
parks.
Then
we
what
off
the
deep-
and
we
want
to
be
that's
a
different
issue
altogether
for
years.
The
city
needs
what
we're
trying
now
for
years
and
years.
I've
been
trying
years
ago,
they
had
choice
to
education,
which
did
that
which
helped
a
lot
of
kids.
I
know
hundreds
of
kids
in
our
city.
They
got
helped,
then,
when
the
the
former
administration
went
away
from
that,
I
don't
know
why
they
did
it
because
of
funding
or
whatever.
D
A
I
will
I
apologize,
but
we've
run
out
of
time,
so,
okay,
we're
going
to
give
ricky
one
minute.
That
concludes
this
meeting.
We'll
continue
this
at
a
later
time.
Thank
you.