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From YouTube: Inspiring Generations with Celeste Williams EP8
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City of Chelsea, Guest: Devra Zabot
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Good,
it's
been
a
while,
since
we've
talked
and
like
I
said
in
my
opening
statement,
you're
such
an
inspiration
you
have
calmed
me
down
when
I
felt
like
I
was
you
know
really.
You
know
passionate
about
anything
that
I
was
working
on
and
you're
like
celeste
hold
on
for
a
minute
and
that
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
didn't
tell
you
that
I
love
about
you,
because
you
can
do
that
with
me.
Not
a
lot
of
people
can
do
that
with
me
and
I
still
talk
to
them.
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When
that's
so
interesting
because
I
was
old
enough
to
remember
becoming
jewish,
so
I
was
both.
My
parents
are
jewish,
so
we're
jewish,
but
where
I
was
growing
up
in
maine,
I
didn't
know
what
jewish
was.
We
lived
in
a
very
tiny
community.
We
didn't
go
to
synagogue
and
it
wasn't
until
I
was
about
seven
or
eight
years
old
that
I
realized
that
jewish
was
something
different.
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For
girls,
it
really
wasn't
it's
something
that
if
the
celebration
happened,
it
happened
quieter
and
it
was
it
it
felt
alienating
like.
We
actually
went
to
synagogue
where
the
women
had.
You
know,
as
soon
as
you
were
12
yeah
as
a
girl,
you
had
to
sit
upstairs
with
all
the
other
women
so
there
that
that
division.
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So
it
was
very
polarizing
because,
like
part
of
me,
I
loved
it.
I
loved
sort
of
the
activity
and
the
fun
that
we
would
have
in
that
world
and
the
celebration
of
all
the
holidays,
but
then
also,
I
know
you're
over
here.
You
can't
do
things
and
you're
not
worth
as
much.
I
know
in
in
in
the
learnings
and
education
of
orthodoxy,
people
will
say:
well,
that's
not
true,
like
women
have
such
an
important
role,
you're
raising
children
you're
contributing
to
the
community.
You
do
that
kind
of
education.
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You
know
there
are
steps
that
you,
you
know,
even
in
the
black
community
right
women,
when
I
was
growing
up,
women
were
home,
taking
care
of
the
children.
You
know,
except
for
my
mother,
because
she
was
outgoing
and
she
had
a
trade.
You
know
she
was
a
telephone
operator,
so
I
mean
she
was
out
of
the
home,
but
for
the
most
part,
the
women
in
my
family,
you
know
my
role
models.
They
were
stay-at-home
women
because
I
remember
watching
my
aunt.
She
had
10
kids
from
my
uncle
arthur
zimmerman.
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You
know
how
we
see
our
neighbor,
you
know
how
we
see
other
cultures,
you
know
bringing
our
families
forward
and
educating
them
in
other
cultures,
letting
them
know
yes,
this.
You
know
the
way
we
teach
our
children.
This
is
another
culture,
but
it
shouldn't
be
shunned.
It
should
be
something
to
learn
about
explore.
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B
So
interesting
and
I
never
thought
about
it
that
way
either,
but
I
do
I
when
I
because
I
lived
in
la
for
a
long
time.
I
lived
in
new
york
for
a
long
time
and
I
feel,
like
I
love
those
cities
and
I
loved,
especially
in
la
like
loved
the
work
that
I
was
doing.
I
loved
it
all,
but
I
felt
very
like
disconnected
and
at
the
very
as
I
started
to
think
about
moving
back
here.
I
actually
went
to
like
a
city
council
meeting
where
I
was
living
in
eagle
rock
and
I
was
like.
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Oh,
these
are
just
like
people
from
the
community
that
try
to
help
make
the
city
go
and
become
better
and
make
decisions,
and
I
and
I
don't
know
why
I
never
understood
that
yeah
and
so
when
I
moved
here,
it
was
like
really
quickly
of
I
don't.
I
can't
like
recall,
or
was
this
just
something
in
the
air
that
was
like?
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Yes,
and
and
that's
what
I
love
too
and
most
times
when
I
do
things
you
know
in
activism,
you
know
I'm
an
activist
for
injustice.
You
know
I'm
an
activist
for
the
youth.
I
I
advocate
and
I
will
be
active
for
seniors
mostly
for
seniors,
because
that
was
my
career
for
35
years.
I
worked
in
nursing
with
geriatrics,
so
it
was
sitting
in
my
50s
to
come
back
to
that
community
and
and
share
with
them.
You
know
on
another
level,
not
just
being
the
caretaker,
but
now
we
want
to
keep
our
cognitive
skills
going.
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We
want
to
keep
up
with
our
exercise.
You
know
what
I
mean
we
wanna.
We
wanna
take
the
time
that
maybe
we're
retired
and
we
just
don't
wanna
sit
home
in
our
little
bubble.
We
wanna
get
out
there
at
50,
60
70
80,
whatever
age
you
are,
you
want
to
get
out
there
and
find
something
that
stimulates
you
not
everyone
can
do
it.
Some
of
us
are
not
mobile.
You
know
they
don't
have
mobility,
but
we
can
find
other
ways.
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I
think
that's
so
like
that's
such
an
area
that
people
don't
really
focus
on.
It's
amazing
that
you're
doing
that
and
because
people
have
so
much
to
give
with
all
life
experience.
So
even
if
you
aren't
mobile,
are
you
helping
people
write,
something,
learn
something
there's
so
much
to
be
done
and
and.
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B
You
know
doing
the
things
that
we're
supposed
to
be
doing
and
looking
out
at
my
window
and
seeing
people
in
lines
waiting
to
get
food
from
the
collaborative
and
seeing
people
online
at
the
bank,
and
just
this
feeling
like
I
was
in
new
york
city
during
9
11
and
there,
the
days
after,
like
the
year
after
the
year
after
was
it
still
felt
like
a
giant
wound.
Basically.
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B
And
it's
it's,
you
know,
I
wasn't
personally
impacted,
I
didn't
know
anybody
who
like
wasn't
it
didn't
matter
like
you
were
it?
The
city
is
like
an
organism
and
it
was
hurt,
and
I
felt
like
that's
chelsea,
thank
god
not
on
that
kind
of
level.
But
basically
I
mean
yeah.
People
are
losing
family
members,
people
are
losing
jobs,
people
are
very
scared.
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A
B
Can
treat
I
bought
masks
like
whatever
I
could
do
contributed
the
the
flower
thing
really
just
came
out
of
looking
out
of
my
window
and
thinking
like.
Can
we
please
get
something?
That's
just
kind
of
like
what
you
said.
I
don't
think
I
would
have
thought
of
as
as
an
homage,
but
it
was
like
it's
springtime.
It's
growth,
it's
color!
It's
something
nice
for
you
to
look
at
as
you're
walking
by.
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B
So
you
can
talk
about
like
oh
these
flowers,
look
so
nice,
or
are
they
doing
great
whatever?
That
is
it
was
it
was?
It
was
definitely
for
me.
It
was
definitely
like
there
there.
It
wasn't.
It
was
simply
a
way
to
brighten
days,
and
I
and
I
understand
if
people
think
well
like
okay,
people
need
money
and
they
need
food
on
their
tables
and
they
need
jobs
back
and
they
need
to
not
feel
so
scared
and
all
of
us
were
going
through
that
to.
B
With
some
of
those
issues
that
the
flowers
may
have
seemed
inconsequential,
but
I
don't
think
they
were,
I
think
for
a
lot,
even
if
it
people
were
walking
by
and
like
looked
over
and
saw
color
and
brightness,
I
that
was
great
and
it
and
yes,
it
brought
together.
It
brought
us
together.
It
was
like
something.
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B
How
the
city
really
supports?
You
have
some
idea
yeah,
even
in
the
midst
of
a
pandemic,
if
it
fits
how
we
can
support
that
it
brought
color
it.
It
opened
up
opportunities
to
speak
to
like
store
owners.
It
opened
up
opportunities
every
time
I
was
up
at
the
gazebo
watering,
those
flowers,
somebody
would
walk
by
and
say.
Thank
you
or
this
is
so
beautiful.
A
Or
whatever
it
was
yeah
and
it
took
them
it's
like
for
a
second
like
the
elder
woman
we
met,
she
was
on
the
show,
actually
miss
grace.
You
know
one
day,
she
you
know
wasn't
in
her
see
you
know
her
bubbly
senior
mood,
but
just
seeing
us
out
there
doing
that-
and
I
I
you
know,
I
engaged
her
and
I
said
to
her
afterwards.
How
do
you?
How
do
you
feel
now
she
said
that
was
great
yeah.
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B
A
You
it's
amazing
act
of
kindness:
let's
do
it,
but
yeah
it
was
fun
and
and-
and
I
hope
the
community
can
get
engaged
this
year
in
that
project,
because
it's
pretty
much
set
on
the
foundation
now.
So
if
you
know,
when
things
you
know
get
running
and
up
and
then
deborah-
and
I
call
for
volunteers,
I
hope
you're
up
for
the
for
the
job.
It'll
be
fun
and
amazing
trust
me
if
you
could
see
a
flower,
my
metaphor
as
a
form
of
life
that
can
be
very
fragile.
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A
You
know
as
a
you
know,
director
you
know,
directing
and-
and
you
brought
some
things
out
of
me
to
talk
about
that-
I
don't
really
highly.
I
don't
talk
about.
Even
when
I
interviewed
my
mother.
I
went
around
that
sentimental.
I
think
she's
strong
enough
now
that
she
would
have
talked
about
it,
but
I
I
I
also
as
well
like
to
see
my
mom
moving
forward
as
another
woman.
A
You
know
not
just
as
my
mom,
but
as
a
woman,
you
know
elder
woman.
That
still
wants
to
do
things
and
you
don't
want
to
take
that
independence
away
right,
so
I'm
always
she's
either
encouraging
me.
Okay
and
I,
like
I,
don't
know
if
you
heard
I,
I
told
everyone
that
I
had
to
share
her
with
everyone
and
I
still
do
and
it's
a
good
thing.
It's
all
good
and
I
love
that
part
of
her
because
she's
so
giving.
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But
when
you
were
doing
your
film
we
had
to
talk.
You
know.
I
talked
about
some
things
about
you
know
about
my
mom.
You
know
how
she
was
an
influence.
You
know
how
she
inspired
me
and,
on
the
other,
end
of
it,
while
you
were
on
the
other
side
of
camera,
I
was
thinking.
How
is
she
inspired
to
do
film?
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B
So
why
did
I
want
to
do
that?
I
don't
know
like.
There
are
two
films
of
my
youth
that
were
very
impactful.
One
of
course,
was
star
wars,
which
I
think
was
the
first
full
movie.
I
saw
in
the
movie
theater
and
I
it
was
the
whole
family.
I
was
sitting
next
to
my
dad,
like
I
think
I
was.
It
was
of
course
packed
and
I
was
ju
like
I'd,
never
seen
it.
I
didn't
have
any
context
for
that.
B
Because
they
didn't
want
tv
in
the
house
which
I
appreciate
now,
but
it
was
very
alienating
when
I
was
a
kid.
I
didn't
have
anything
to
talk
about
with
kids
at
school.
Right
like
you
can
talk
about
the
shows
whatever
so
we
didn't
have
tv,
but
what
they
did
was
they
bought
a
projector
and
we
had
like
a.
We
had
10
foot
screen
in
our
house,
and
so
we
had.
Then
we
had
beta
tapes.
Do
you
remember.
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B
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B
And
I
think,
because
of
the
beauty
of
the
film
and
the
way
I
was
like.
Oh
my
god,
I
don't
that's,
that's
the
memory
or
that's
the
memory.
I
tell
myself
yeah
that
that
I
was
like.
Oh,
I
want
to
be
a
director
like
somehow
I
that's
what
I
wanted
to
do.
I'd
always
listen
to
stories
on
the
radio
which
I
loved.
B
Lot
we
watched
a
lot
of
films
that
I
wouldn't
have
had
access
to.
If
I'd
been,
you
know,
if
we
didn't
have
that
they
just
we
lived
in
bangor
maine,
we,
the
access
to
our
films,
were
pretty
limited
and
it
was
the
I
think
it
was
the
seeing
other
other
people
like
across
the
world
right
like
so
all
these
different
cultures
and
all
these
different
stories
I
directed
in
college,
I
directed
theater,
but
then
after
that
I
did
the
typical
thing
that
most
women
of
my
generation
did
when
we
were
like.
B
I
want
to
be
a
cinematographer.
Oh,
I
want
to
be
a
director,
it
didn't
it.
You
had
to
be
a
sort
of
a
a
level
of
confidence
that
I
didn't
have.
Okay,
I
just
didn't.
Have
it
at
my
age
at
that
age
I
didn't
have
it
to
become
a
director,
that's
really
all
I
ever
wanted
to
do
so.
Of
course,
I
became
a
producer
like
creative
right
development,
like
all
the
stuff
that
typically
women
of
my
generation
did
there's
so
many
female
directors
and
female
dps.
A
B
A
A
B
A
We
started,
you
know
in
our
friendship
to
seeing
actually
what
you
do
for
work,
and
I
told
you
what
I
do
for
work
and
you
know
I
would
be
at
the
nursing
home
right
now
helping
people
if
it
wasn't
for
covet
like
I
would
be
like
I'm
retired,
but
I
work
on
my
own
terms.
I
would
do
pretty
m
sometimes,
but
I'm
not
like
35
years.
You
know
in
that
setting,
but
I
still
go
back
and
I
wouldn't
change
a
thing.
A
B
Things
you
know
it's
so
interesting
that
you're
talking
about
because,
like
when
you
told
me
what
you
do
for
work
and
what
you've
done
most
of
your
life.
I
have
an
understanding
of
that.
I've
been
around
nurses,
I've
been
to
hospitals.
I
have
an
understanding
what
that
is.
I
have
a
great
appreciation
for
people
who
are
in
nursing
field
like
they
work
the
hardest
of.
B
B
A
B
A
B
A
A
A
A
Can
we
understand
that
culture
just
through
what
we
see
on
tv
or
could
we
understand
it
best
if
someone's
sitting
like
we
are
and
having
a
conversation
and
opening
up
a
real
conversation
about
the
events
of
that
time?
You
know,
even
if
it
was
way
back,
then
we
could
still
apply
some
of
the
principles.
B
You
know,
but
I
think
it's
all
like
it's
all
they're
all
tools,
there's
not
like
one
thing
right.
It's
all
these
tools
that
we
need
and
that's
why
I'm
saying
like
in
terms
of
the
arts,
kind
of
disappearing
or
us
being
removed
or
having
them
removed
for
our
lives
like
not
even
being
able
to
go
to
a
museum,
no
right
and
how
often
it's
like.
Oh
I'm
gonna
go
to
the
museum
but
like
or
being
able
to
go
to
an
art,
show
or
being
able
to
listen
to
poetry
or
comedy
like
whatever.
B
Be
anything
from
making
a
psa
to
making
a
feature
film
like
there's
lots
of
different
video
content,
a
lot
of
people
are
making
content
on
tick,
tock
and
instagram,
and,
like
you,
we
again
we
have
like
the
tools.
Yeah,
the
there
are
plenty
of
barriers,
and
I
think
the
thing
to
do
is
there's
plenty
of
resources
as
well
and
there's
far
more
open
doors
than
there
were
like
20
years
ago.
Okay,
you
know
and
because
equipment,
the
huge
thing
is
equipment's
totally
cheap
with
your
cell
phone.
You
can
do
whatever
you
want
exactly.
A
B
B
A
B
Around
that
challenge
go
around
that
challenge
and
I
think
the
best
thing,
especially
if
you're
a
young
person
yeah
and
you
have
the
sort
of
the
time,
basically
right.
If
you
have
the
time,
if
you're,
in
a
situation
where
you
can
take
a
saturday
and
go
make
a
film
with
your
friends,
go
make
a
film
with
your
friends.
A
A
A
A
B
B
It's
having
people
on
all
sides,
sort
of
break
it
apart
and
I
understand
you
have
to
break
up
the
paradigm
that
that's
been
accepted.
I
think
even
for
us
for
women.
Sometimes
we
have
to
take
a
step
back
and
think.
Okay.
Well,
do
we
not
like
this
content,
because
it's
female
oriented
and
somehow
in
our
minds
like
oh
but
that's
not
as
important
like
there's
so
much?
We
have
to
break
down
internally
as
well
as
externally,
to
like
decide
whose
stories
get
to
be
told,
and
why
they're
important
did
you
see?
B
A
A
B
B
A
She's
been
nominated
totally
what
you're
saying,
because
you
know
when
I
see
people
get
awards
right
on
those
platforms.
You
know
as
in
film,
and
we
could
talk
film
because
you're
into
films,
we
could
talk
when
I
see
them
get
an
award.
It
seems
like
some
for
some
for
some.
I
don't
see
them
return
back
into
the
field
anymore.
It's
like
the
epiphany
of
the
highest
where
you
can
go.
A
B
B
A
B
A
A
B
It
would
reflect
it
wouldn't
reflect
and
I'm
sure
not
all
of
the
people
in
the
academy
were
like
this,
but
it
wasn't
like.
Oh,
I
didn't
watch
that
film,
but
I
really
like
that
director.
So
I'm
going
to
nominate
that
film
right
to
shift
it
to
people
who
come
from
a
diverse
background.
So
it's
a
very
inclusive
group
of
people.
Age
ranges
ethnicities
genders.
A
A
A
A
Working
on
a
lot
of
women's
issues-
yeah,
you
know-
and
I
think
women
have
taken
this
month-
to
really
embrace
and
and
and
and
reflect
on
what
other
women
are
doing
as
well
to
bring
them
along,
because
it's
not
like
holding
your
hand,
but
it's
like
hey.
We
can
do
this.
You
know-
and
I,
like
I
said
in
early
on
in
this
this
segment.
A
A
A
B
B
A
A
She
said
she's,
not
so
much
an
activist,
but
she
is
active
in
service
in
the
community
and
we
just
want
to
inspire
other
people
to
get
out
and
and
just
be
active
in
the
community
and
serve
you.
Don't
have
to
actually
be
an
activist,
but
you
can
be
active
and
I'll
leave
you
on
that
note.
Thank
you
for
watching.