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From YouTube: City Council Sub Committee Meeting 1-19-22
Description
City of Chelsea
Discuss and meet with State chosen Soldier’s Home designated developer
A
A
A
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
so
Fisher
was
invited
to
the
subcommittee
today.
Members
of
the
city,
councilor
city
manager,
Tom
Amber
Zina,
is
here
Landon
he's
planning
director
John
is
here
here
members
of
the
historic
commission.
Anyone
from
the
historic
commission
availability
online
online.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
being
here
today
so
again,
this
meeting
with
Paul
to
get
an
update
on
what's
going
on
at
the
Soldiers
Home,
what
we've
met
at
in
the
past,
and
we
just
wanted
to
get
an
update.
We
had
to
present
us
today.
If
you
just
give
us
an
update,
introduce
yourself
as
if
you
come
to
the
mic
again
and
just
speak
as
clearly
it
is
being
recorded,
and
all
of
you
tell
us.
C
So
that
I'm
Ashley
Emerson
I'm
the
division
of
capital,
asset
management
and
maintenance,
can
everyone
hear
me
okay,
just
kind
of
not
if
you
can
hear
me,
okay,
thank
you
again,
I'm
with
the
office
of
real
estate
in
dcam
and
as
you're
aware
we're
looking
to
redevelop
the
domiciliary
campus,
the
Soldiers
Home
in
Chelsea.
C
Through
that
process
there
has
been
a
selection
made
at
a
proposal,
and
we
have
a
provisional
designation
agreement
with
the
developer,
Penrose
and
they're
here
today.
To
give
you
a
sense
of
what
their
proposal
includes.
We
are
in
preliminary
stages.
This
is
a
time
where
they
are
doing
some
due
diligence
on
campus
and
seeing
what
is
still
feasible
from
their
proposal.
We
hope
all
of
it
and
I
will
now
introduce
Riley
Adams
from
Penrose.
E
Hear
me:
okay,
okay,
great
so
I'm,
just
gonna
start
up
a
quick
little
introduction
do
I!
Just
click
on
this
to
the
insta
slides.
Is
that
yeah?
Okay,
because
I
just
hit
the
okay
great,
so
we're
here
you
know
the
idea
is
you
know
to
be
informal
here,
we're
gonna
as
Ashley
said
we're
getting
started
on
the
project.
It's
something
we're.
E
About
we're
just
scratching
the
surface
of
how
this
is
all
going
to
play
out
it's
very
complex,
but
we
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
meet
with
you
and
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
who
Penrose
is
a
little
bit
about
what
our
plans
are
and
I'm
going
to
have
Carmen
Chung
who's.
The
project
manager
for
this
deal
walk
you
through
the
bulk
of
that,
but
I
just
was
going
to
start
off
by
telling
a
little
bit
about
our
vision
and
Independence
super.
Thank
you.
F
E
Basically,
you
know
our
approach
to
the
soldiers
home
is
you
know
our
promise?
Is
we're
really
committing
to
ensuring
that
all
the
residents
will
have
a
place
at
the
Chelsea
Soldiers
Home?
That's
our
vision
for
the
place.
It's
a
place!
That's
been
cherished
for
a
long
period
of
time.
E
It's
a
great
resource
that
the
state,
the
Commonwealth
Massachusetts,
has
to
give
a
quality
of
life
to
our
residents
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
come
in
and
help
take
that
Vision
that's
been
there
for
us,
because
the
buildings
are
tired
and
old
and
it
meets
development.
That's
really
what
we're
trying
to
do
to
have
this
be
a
long-term
investment
for
the
for
the
veterans
and
served
our
country,
and
they
live
here
in
the
Commonwealth
next
slide.
Please.
E
Is
just
a
fraction
of
the
team?
Obviously
the
we're
from
Penrose
we're
an
owner
manager,
a
developer,
multi-family
housing.
We
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
that,
but
myself,
Carmen
and
Ryan
will
be
at
the
front
end
of
the
planning
and
execution
of
the
Redevelopment
project
up
at
the
soldier
Zone,
we
have
a
great
architecture
team
that
we've
worked
with
led
by
Philippe
sod
I've
done
a
lot
of
work
with
them.
E
Niche
engineering
is
a
very
well
established
engineering
firm
here
in
the
country
and
sorry
in
the
Commonwealth
and
in
Boston
in
particular
and
and
Chelsea,
and
knows
a
lot
about
the
site.
They
do
a
lot
of
work,
so
we're
happy
to
have
them
on
the
team
we
brought
in
a
landscape
architect
for
this.
E
We
don't
always
do
that
for
all
our
deals,
but
there
are
such
great
opportunities
here
to
really
bring
the
landscape
into
the
overall
plan
for
for
the
for
the
campus
that
we
brought
in
Crowley
Cottrell
and
they
are
affirmly
views
to
other
places.
Obviously
this
is
a
historic
renovation.
There's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
historic
issues
and
things
to
deal
with
we're
going
to
go
for
tax
credits
that
both
depend
on
the
state
level
and
so
we're
working
with
the
group.
It's
our
historic
consultant.
Pam.
F
E
E
Our
management
company,
not
only
will
we
own
a
man
own
and
develop
the
site
that
we
also
are
the
long-term
property
managers.
What
you
don't
see
on
the
slide
is
a
social
service
provider
which
we
will
have
we're
in
the
process
of
working
through
that
and
there's
going
to
be
a
really
robust
service
plan
here
at
the
at
the
community.
So
next
slide,
please
it's
a
little
bit
about
Penrose
and
who
we
are.
E
We've
done
a
fair
amount
of
veterans,
developments
across
our
portfolio,
we're
right
now
in
20
states
in
the
District
of
Columbia,
we've
done
about
almost
20
000
units.
At
this
point
over
our
period
of
History,
we
have
our
headquarters
in
Philadelphia
and
we
have
Regional
Offices
like
the
one
we
have
here
in
Boston,
Baltimore,
Atlanta
and
several
other
locations
that
just
gives
you
sort
of
a
sampling
of
some
of
the
veterans
work
that
we've
done
throughout
our
history
and
the
one
that's
most
recent
is
the
Dover
veterans
slide.
E
B
Really
there.
E
Are
three
components
to
how
we
approach
things?
It's
really
about
buildings,
places
and
spaces,
and
people
this
is
sort
of
giving
you
a
sense
of
our
preservation
of
History.
We've
done
a
lot
of
work
with
historic
renovation.
It
gives
you
a
sampling
of
some
of
the
units
that
we've
done
over
our
almost
50
year.
History,
we've
done
46
different
Rehabilitation
projects,
so
we're
very
familiar
with
with
historic
renovation
2300
units,
the
ones
that
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
are
the
two
on
the
bottom
left
hand.
G
F
Right
hand
corner
those
are
the
ones
that.
E
Carmen
is
actually
working
on
both
of
those
transactions.
The
one
on
the
left
is
a
former
school
that
was
renovated.
He
tore
part
of
it
down
and
rebuilt
for
new.
That's
a
senior
development
that
it's
just
completing
construction
now
and
the
building
on
the
right,
because
when.
F
You
may
have
heard
about
it.
It's
just
here
in
Boston,
it's.
E
The
way
of
Martin
Rogers
school
it'll
be
the
first
lgbtq
friendly
deal
at
all
over
England.
It's
a
hundred
thousand
square
foot
Middle
School
that
we're
preserving
entirely
and
the
team
that
we're
working
with
with
both
of
these
is
the
same
team.
A
E
It's
incredible:
that's
cool
next
slide!
Please.
F
E
As
I
said,
it's
not
just
about
the
buildings,
it's
also
about
places.
You
know
we
really
try
to
place
making
is
intra
component
of
what
we
do.
This
is
a
fantastic
opportunity
for
us
right.
We
could
not
be
more
excited
about
the
opportunity
to
create
a
place
on
this
campus,
so
this
is
exactly
the
type
of
deal
that
really
inspires
us.
E
Ultimately,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
though,
we're
we're
a
mixed
income,
formalization
right
and
so
again
nothing
speaks
more
to
helping
people
than
on
this
particular
deal
being.
H
E
The
veterans
that
gave
so
much
for
us,
as
is
really
what
ultimately
motivated
us
to
really
be
wanting
to
do
this,
this
transaction.
So
pandas
invests
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
in
supporting
our
residents.
E
We
have
a
supportive
services
staff
in-house
that
oversees
a
lot
of
our
support
of
services
and,
over
the
last
couple
of
years
we
actually
established
a
foundation
and
then
out
of
that
gorilla
covered
Relief
Fund,
where
we
were
able
to
help
a
lot
of
our
residents
that
needed
help
getting
through
the
last
two
years.
Next
slide.
E
I
So,
as
Ashley
said
earlier,
we're
very
much
in
the
early
stages
of
thinking
through
the
site
and
what
we
want
to
do
before
we
were
even
selected.
We
actually
had
never
been
inside
the
buildings,
because
the
state,
the
Commonwealth,
is
being
very
careful
about
the.
I
Restrictions
so
we're
slowly
getting
to
know
the
buildings,
but
in
our
initial
take
these
are
our
main
goals.
Okay,.
I
I
There's
also
the
site
currently
kind
of
sits
on
a
hill,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
connections
between
the
stories
that
are
guys
doing.
The
meeting
is
things
that
can
really
help
improve
the
site,
because
right
now,
there's
a
lot
of
underground
tunnels
that
help
connect
the
building,
so
there
might
be
less
Street
activity
than
we
would
normally
see
if
folks,
who
are
have
a
beautiful
landscape
to
kind
of
interact
with.
I
I
Now
we
want
to
make
sure
that
as
we
transition
and
that
all
the
veterans
continue
to
have
the
services,
they
need
to
succeed
in
a
very
new
living
area
because
currently
we're
all
single
room
occupancy
units
with
no
bathrooms
no
kitchens,
and
we
will
be
providing
Studios
one
bedrooms,
two
and
three
bedrooms
and
it's
a
very
different
lifestyle
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
all
the
veterans
can
adjust
and
transition
to
and
and
then
lastly,
is
honoring.
Our
veterans
sacrifice
in
history.
So
this
is
100
Veterans
Preference
project.
I
I
I
The
Press
app,
you
can
see
hasn't
really
changed
significantly
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
preserve
that
look
and
feel
on
the
right.
You
kind
of
see
how
the
Topography
of
the
site
lends
itself
to
kind
of
Landscapes
that
are
kind
of
sloped
and
binding.
That
would
be
good,
walking
paths.
We
want
to
kind
of
recreate
that
and
bring
back
some
of
these
things
that
are
part
of
the
history
of
the
site.
Next
slide,
foreign.
I
Pictures
of
the
site,
I'm
sure
folks
are
familiar
with,
but
there's
a
lot
of
variability
in
the
type
of
architecture,
the
area
that
they
were
built
in,
and
that's
one
of
the
challenges
that
we're
facing
to
how
to
preserve
these
and
also
break
these.
Also
up
to
the
modern
day.
I
So
this
is
the
surrendering
of
pressav
and
it
kind
of
pretty
much
mimics.
What
we
see
in
that
historic
photo
you'll
see
in
a
site
plan
that
I'll
show
later
that
we
are
proposing
very,
very
minimal
demolition.
We
are
trying
to
preserve,
basically,
almost
all
of
the
buildings
on
the
site
and
adding
some
additions.
I
Going
back
to
kind
of
talking
about
creating
open
spaces
and
Gardens,
one
of
the
ideas
is
also
to
create
this
Plaza
that
will
kind
of
create
more
activity
on
the
street.
In
the
background,
you
see
the
letters
V
and
AC.
It
stands
for
veteran
Museum.
D
I
Center,
that's
our
proposal
for
the
power
plant
once
we
transition
all
the
buildings
from
kind
of
steam
power
to
Electric,
that
power
plant
will
no
longer
serve
its
old
use
and
and
thinking
about
news
for
it
that's
an
idea
we
have
for
what
could
help
enliven
and
also
create
I,
guess,
amenity
for
the
veterans
and
also
amenity
for
the
larger
Chelsea
Community
in
the
white
box.
There.
You
also
see
it's
a
proposed
new
construction.
I
That's
two
stories
that
would
be
a
cafe
that
could
be
better
to
run
and
the
whole
world
is
just
to
create.
Street
activity
looks
like
this,
so.
I
And
our
current
thinking
is
that
we're
trying
to
split
this
in
approximately
four
phases,
because
one
of
our
priorities
is
to
make
sure
that
all
the
betterments
who
are
on
site
now
never
have
to
relocate
off
of
the
site.
So
we
are
making
sure
that
while
we
are
working
on
one
portion
of
the
site
that
there
will
be
somewhere
on
the
current
Soldiers,
Home
campus
for
them
to
temporarily
relocate
to,
and
then
they
would
move
into
the
completed
buildings.
Once
that's
done.
I
So
you
can
see
here
that
there
are
some
additions,
we're
proposing
to
the
Sullivan
building
the
Kevo
building
and
a
new
connector
that
we're
proposing
to
make
that
two-story
building.
That's
next
to
connect
next
to
the
connector
to
create
an
elevator
access,
because
there's
no
elevator
currently
in
the
laundry
building,
which
is
that
two-story
something
so,
and
there
are
some
Town
Hall
homes
proposed
on
the
corner
of
Summit,
Ave
and
but
largely.
I
We
have
proposed
to
preserve
all
the
buildings
and
we're
working
closely
about
the
Commonwealth
said
figure
out
what
phasing
makes
the
most
sense
and
we're
going
to
prioritize
vacant
buildings
to
minimize
the
disruption
as
much
as
possible.
I
So
this
is
some
more
of
the
Landscaping
plan
that
our
our
plastic
architect
proposed.
One
of
the
things
is
a
soldier's
home
park
at
the
corner
that
we're
really
hoping
will
create
a
place
that
will
invite
Lord
residents
of
the
large
greater
Chelsea
Community
in
the
community
around
here
to
come
to
this
site
and
interact
because
we're
hoping
that
there
will
be
playgrounds
there
so
that
families
can
interact
with
our
residents
on
the
Sullivan
can
meet
in
green.
You
can
see
right
now.
I
That's
this
kind
of
built
up
land
mass
that
you
can't
really
walk
across,
so
we're
hoping
to
create
some
sloped
walkways
there
that
can
be
more
inviting
for
residents.
I
Foreign,
a
little
bit
about
Supportive
Services
on
the
slide
that
Charlie
showed
earlier.
We
have
a
vice
president
of
Supportive
Services,
who
is
part
of
our
property
management
company
who's
affiliated
with
the
development
company,
and
she
heads
up
all
the
support
of
service
coordinators
around
all
of
our
sites,
and
one
of
her
big
initiatives
over
the
past
few
years
is
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
just
the
service
coordinators
who
are
providing
services
that
all
our
staff,
our
property
management
staff,
our
maintenance
staff.
I
So
one
of
the
key
I
guess
amenities
that
we're
hoping
to
provide
to
the
veterans
is
this
veterans.
Resource
Center.
I
The
impetus
behind
this
is
to
create
a
more
of
a
One-Stop
shop,
so
that
veterans
don't
have
to
go
to
Boston,
go
to
XYZ
office
building
in
order
to
get
their
services
so
to
create
a
space
where
folks,
income
and
service
providers
can
come
to
the
soldiers
will
do
Property
Services
on
site
to
minimize
kind
of
the
traveling
that
folks
have
to
do-
and
this
is
just
our
first
shot
at
figuring
out
what
makes
sense
in
this
veterans
resource
center,
and
we
put
Wellness
room
here
for
potential
doctors,
visits
computer
lab
for
training,
multi-purpose,
room,
Fitness
room
and
a
kitchen.
I
Foreign,
so,
as
I
said,
this
is
we're
very
much
in
the
early
stages,
we're
still
studying
the
building
we
met
with.
We
had
a
town
hall
with
residents
at
the
soldiers
home
and
we'll
plan
on
going
back
on
every
kind
of
right
now.
I
I
think
the
goal
is
maybe
on
a
quarterly
basis
to
make
sure
that
they
understand
that
we're
we're
here
and
we
are
here
to
listen
to
their
concerns
and
make
sure
that
they
know
that
they
will
have
a
place
to
stay
throughout
the
development
and
after
we
redevelop
we're
kind
of
meeting
with
the
city
council
meeting
with
John
and
kind
of
doing
a
lot
of
information
gathering
and
then
one
of
the
key
things
for
this
project
as
a
historic
project
is
getting
kind
of
state
and
federal
historic
approvals.
E
Thank
you
sure,
I
think
someone
that
may
have
joined
us
I'm,
not
sure.
Maybe
she
fell
off.
We
have
secretary
poppy
I,
think
that
was
this
Affairs.
K
G
H
To
listen
to
the
presentation,
but
thank
you
very
much
I
hope
you
appreciated
what
you
have
seen
and
the
plans
for
the
future
housing
for
the
veterans
at
the
soldiers,
home
and
veterans
in
the
future.
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you
kindly
John.
Would
you
like
to
say
a
few
things
before
I
open
it
up
to
record
officials
because
I
know
they
spoke
and.
A
K
The
conversation
would
be
because
I
serve
as
blue
games
on
for
the
historical
commission,
the
state
has
a
sign
in
Cleveland,
with
a
civilian
struggle
commission
to
help
participate
in
this
Redevelopment
process.
We
participated
by
reviewing
the
proposals
that
were
the
state
we
see
and
we're
provided
comments
on
each
of
them.
K
A
Okay
and
I'm
sure
that,
with
the
massive
star
commission,
they
have
some
concerns
about.
What's
being
done
around
that,
you
know,
plan
so
keep
an
eye
and
keep
us
abreast
to
that.
Okay,
Mr
manager.
Would
you
like
to
say
a
few
words?
No
I'll
wait
till
the
questions.
Okay,
we
also
have
Consular
at
large,
who
also
resides
in
the
district
and
what
a
proposal
is
taking
place,
and
we
also
have
a
few
counselors
online
Council
of
President
and
District
Council
Judith
Garcia,
but
we're
starting
house
with
Council
Robinson.
If
you
have
any
questions.
L
E
L
A
C
E
So
we're
yeah.
I
L
E
Yeah,
so
so
one
of
the
so
that
that
parcel
is
served
off
the
main
campus
right
yeah.
So
one
of
our
sort
of
our
design,
things
we
were
thinking
about
is
that
that
parcel
should
make
it
relate
more
to
the
surrounding
neighborhood
in
terms
of
the
architectural
style
than
the
buildings
on
campus,
particularly
and
that's.
H
E
A
bank
of
thought
right,
so
that's
the
one
place
where
there
can
be
so
many
construction.
So
our
initial
thought.
You
know
this
is
you're
looking
at
the
community
feedback,
but
the
official
thought
was
that
those
units
should
blend
in
with
the
other
units
that
are
on
the
street
and
it's
that's.
The
concept
is
to
have
those
people.
It's
going
to
look
like
yeah.
L
Well,
I
know
it's
early
in
the
design,
but
has
there
been
a
traffic
study?
Looked
at.
E
I
E
D
E
Get
financing
usually
once
the
once
the
financing
is
lined
up.
It
probably
takes
six
to
eight
months
to
get
into
actually
start
construction
and
then
my
guess
is
it's
probably
a
15-month
schedule
for
each
of
the
phases.
So
there's
you
know
if
we
could
do
the
phases
not
in
this
video,
multiple
phase.
At
the
same
time,
we'll
try
to
look
to
do
that.
We
want
me
to
be
really
sensitive
to
the
folks
that
are
living
there.
Now.
You
know
work
around
them
right,
so
it's
really
going
to
be
dictated
by.
A
Okay,
so
in
real
time,
that's
close
to
three
years
from
go
to
go
a
little
bit
more
time.
Okay,
so
also
I
just
want
to
recognize
that
we
have
counselors
Vega
Maldonado
and
we
did
have
consolidation
steps
because
she'll
be
back,
but
I
just
also
wanted
to
recognize
those
two
continents
who
would
joined
us.
We
now
have
Consular
president.
If
you
have
that
question
questions
or
you
have
the
mic.
D
Thank
you
vice
president
Kevin
Brown,
my
first
question
is:
I
actually
did
not
get
through
the
presentation,
any
sort.
If
I
missed
it,
an
apartment
and
I
think
I
saw
townhouses.
D
So
can
you
just
give
a
better
description
of
total
count
of
apartments
and
Country?
What
are
we
looking
at
from
compared
to
present
number
of
Apartments
people
to
potentially
how
many?
How
much
is
the
increase
in
population
going
to
be
in
this
area?.
I
I
think
the
current
capacity
of
the
site
that
is
supposed
to
be
300..
There
are
currently
about
129
residents
who
are
living
there
and
in
the
proposal
we
have
approximately
248
total
units,
of
which
20
are
Studios
169
or
one
bedrooms,
55
or
two
bedrooms
and
four
three
bedrooms
and
that's
half
house
units
are
within
this
248
there's
four
townhouse
buildings
and
those
are
about
16
units
close
each
one
is
four.
Each
time
us
is
four
units.
I
So
right
now
there
are
200
with
a
248
units.
We
have
approximately
171
parking
spaces
planned.
It's
a
ratio
of
0.69.
D
So
it
doesn't
meet
local
parking
requirements,
as
as
it
is
presented.
D
Okay,
and
while
this
the
state
project,
this
would
still
fall
as
a
special
permit
under
our
zoning
laws.
Given
that
this
is
a
can
you
answer
that
question.
D
So
it's
so
granted
under
special
permit.
So
how
does
that
align
our
parking
restrictions
that
anybody
seeking
special
permits
and
then
does
not
be
you
know
and
has
parking
not
enough
parking
not
be
allowed
to
participate
in
the
city
resident
parking
program.
D
Okay,
as
part
of
the
planning
given
the
amount
of
units
and
such
what
traffic
mitigation
is
being
proposed
by
this
project.
What
does
your
traffic
count
say
given
how
many
cars
are
going
up
and
down?
You
know
the
Hill
from
all
different
Avenues
and
such
what
are
we
looking
for
at
on
a
local
basis,
and
what
are
you,
what
is
the
project
proposing
to
help
mitigate
that.
I
So
we
haven't
completed
a
traffic
study,
yet
the
I
guess,
if
that
is
the
concern,
the
goal
of
this
meeting
is
to
get
feedback
and
get
concerns
out
from
the
city
council.
So
if
that's
something
you
would
like
us
to
address,
we'll
we'll
yeah.
E
That'll
be
part
of
it,
that'll
be
part
of
the
Zone
when
we
come
back
from
facility,
we'll
have
to
do
a
full-grown
traffic
study
and
do
all
that
this
comment
said
we're.
You
know
we're
still
scratching
the
surface
of
these
we've.
Okay,
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
buildings
really
can
kind
of
do.
What
buildings
are
telling
us,
we
could
actually
put
there
so,
okay.
D
Well,
I'm
just
raising
this,
because
these
are
the
typical
concerns
when
any
project
is
proposed,
number
one
transfer
account
number
two
parking
impact
and
I
wanted
to
make.
You
know
figure
out
if
this
applies,
and
you
know
whether
or
not
residents
in
the
area
will
have
to
be
concerned
that
their
you
know
the
new
residents.
D
If
they
have
cars,
I,
don't
even
know
if
there
will
be
an
impact
of
number
of
cars
and
such,
but
if
they're
going
to
be
seeing,
you
know
an
influx
of
new
cars
in
the
you
know
parking
on
the
street.
So
it's
just
that
parking
inside.
So
I
just
wanted
to
ask
that
question.
Yeah.
E
D
Can
you
go
over
a
little
bit
about
the
open
space
and
how
this
what
the
planning
is,
how
accessible
it
will
be
to
the
residents
of
the
Hill
and
not
just
the
residents
within
the
proposal
itself,.
E
I,
don't
think
we
really
we
kind
of
talked
about
that.
As
you
know,
it
was
going
through
our
proposal
pretty
quickly
one
of
the
things
that
one
of
our
goals
here
really
is
is
with
communities
up
there.
Now
it
feels
a
little
isolated
right.
It's
up
there
on
the
hill,
it's
kind
of
a
teenager
itself.
What
we
want
to
try
and
do
is
is
make
sure
that
the
that
the
veterans
know
that
this
is
their
Community
their
home,
but
to
have
the
outside
Community
environment
into
it.
E
So
one
of
our
our
thoughts
and
ideas
as
we
were
thinking
about
these
green
spaces
and
these
Open
Spaces
the
department
people
go
into
details-
is
finding
ways
to
bring
them
attractive
to
the
rest
of
the
community
right.
So
you
know,
a
young
family
on
a
Sunday
afternoon
says:
hey:
let's
go
up
to
the
trophy
soldiers
home
and
walk
around
the
campus
and
play
on
the
playground
right.
I
I
guess
one
thing
we
would
say
is
that,
even
though
this
is
the
site
is
not
necessarily
it's
not
a
public
parcel
of
land
we're
treating
places
like
the
soldiers
home
park
on
the
right
here,
there's
not
going
to
be
Gates,
there's
not
going
to
be
offenses,
we
are
going
to
maintain
it,
but
it's
kind
of
a
public
amenity.
I
C
C
That
when
the
CLC
is
completed,
the
Quigley
building
will
come
down
and
there
is
a
park
proposed
for
that
space
as
well.
But
you
can't
see
that
on
this
proposal,
because
that's
being
built
by
dcam
so
to
keep
that
in
mind
for
open
space
in
the
area.
C
The
parking
in
the
and
the
all
of
the
landscaping
and
the
Civil
will
come
after
which
the
building
comes.
M
A
The
councils
were
on
I,
wanted
to
give
them
an
opportunity
to
answer
or
ask
some
questions
they've
since
tuned
out
for
a
moment,
but
I
have
a
question
and
if
they
come
back,
we'll
get
them
right
into
it.
Are
you.
D
A
challenge
to
a
president,
no
I
have
one
more
last
one
one
of
the
one
of
the
concerns
here
and
I
just
wanted
to
bring
it
up.
I'm
sure
that
Planning
and
Zoning
may
ask
the
same
questions
but
some
of
the
result.
Some
of
the
concerns
with
the
residents
on
the
downhill
side,
is
about
runoff,
particularly
the
area
that
they're
showing
where
the
townhouses
are
water,
runoff
towards
the
back
to
the
homes
that
are
on
I,
believe
it's
prospects.
D
Yeah,
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
whatever
is
built
in
that
parking
lot
as
an
address
that
will
be
taking
in
that
runoff
water
will
not
again,
you
know
the
worst.
It
is,
or
it's
addressed
as
part
of
the
project.
E
Yeah
so
I
mean,
as
you
know,
we
we
have
to
maintain
water
on
our
sites.
That's
what
that's
requirements
we'll
do
that,
the
other
the
other
good
news
is.
If
you
look
at
where
those
Town
rooms
are,
you
know,
that's
all,
that's
all
hard
surface
right
now
right,
so
we're
actually
going
to
be
creating
more
Green
Space,
more
places
for
the
water
to
go
more
places
for
things
to
drain,
creating
more
impervious
stuff.
There.
A
M
I
have
three
questions
sure
so,
first
in
your
Surah,
reasonable
thinking
about
a
time
frame.
When
do
you
think
you'd
be
submitting
to
our
zoning
board
of
appeals
for
a
zoning
group
for
phase
one
I.
I
Think
our
Target
is
to
do
Zoning
for
the
applicable
site
and
we're
shooting
to
start
the
process
late
to
break
early
summer.
Okay,.
M
There
was
a
push
from
the
city
to
try
to
get
some
homeownership
piece
in
this
development.
I
understand
it's
a
long-term
ground
piece,
but
that
doesn't
necessarily
home
ownership.
It's
happened
before
in
99
years,
so
the
question
is:
have
you
can
you
give
some
thought
to
a
homeownership
piece,
particularly
in
those
16
units
that
will
go
in
that
neighborhood.
M
There
is
some
restriction
on
the
the
gift
of
this
land
to
the
state
back
at
the
18th
late
1800s.
There
was
some
talk
that
the
details
thought
they
might
have
to
go
to
the
SJC
to
get
some
relief
from
the
restrictions
and
the
will
does
that
happen.
When
does
that
stand
or
have
you
determined,
you
don't
need
to
do
that.
C
No,
no
I
believe
there
was
an
opinion
that
yeah
I'm
apologizing
I,
don't
know
all
of
the
details
that
I
can
follow.
There's.
C
A
Thank
you,
Mr
manager,
councilman
Garcia.
Do
you
have
any
questions.
A
Okay,
so
I
had
just
two
questions
to
follow
up.
You
talked
about
the
CAF
Plaza
and
you
talked
about
a
little
store
there
and
you
said
it
would
be
somewhat
operated
by
a
veteran.
Will
that
could
that
be
like
a
ownership
for
a
veteran
or
dude
has
to
belong
to
someone,
or
is
it
a
renting
like
someone
can
come
in
and
rent
it
with
a
preference?
Are
you
a
veteran?
You
have
some
kind
of
agreement
that
you
know
veteran
preference
and
they
can
rent
it.
It's
be
a
little
small
place
for
veterans
or
yeah.
I
I,
don't
think
we
fully
fleshed
out,
like
the
structure
of
it,
I
think
the
idea
that
it
will
be
some
sort
of
Cafe
and
it'll
be
great
if
it
was
business
or
if
veterans
on
site
or
organized
enough
to
actually
run
a
cafe.
I
It's
supposed
to
be
a
amenity
and
in
terms
of
who
operates
and
who
runs
it.
We
have
a
quick.
A
E
A
E
I
A
A
F
A
Cool
I
just
wanted
to
know.
That's
pretty
interesting,
because
I
know
the
state
has
places
like
that
and
courthouses
and
State
Building,
the
federal
building
for
blind
and
for
different
types
of
folks
veterans,
and
you
know
you
come
in
and
you
know
you
meet
a
criteria
and
they
don't
make
a
lot
of
money,
but
it
gives
you
something
to
do
so.
That's
really
good
I
I,
like
that
idea,
and
that
concept
and
just
the
the
other
question
that
I
had
was
the
historic
part.
A
You
know
it's
a
lot
of
historic
character
up
there
and
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you
who
actually
walked
you
through
all
the
historic
sites,
and
you
know
what's
really
something
that
the
veterans
that
really
appreciate
they
love
and
we
just
can't
move
it.
We
just
can't
you
know
change
it
and
what's
your
thought
on.
I
So
we
walk
the
site
with
the
social
folks
that,
but
in
thinking
about
your
comments,
is
now
at
our
first
town
hall
meeting,
there
was
a
resident
who
actually
wrote
some
notes
from
things
that
he
wants
to
make
sure
the
second
these
are
acting
over
the
next
several
times.
All
meetings
will
continue
since
listing
feedback
from
the
veterans.
I,
don't
know
if
we
will
walk
the
site
with
kind
of
residents,
but
we've
certainly
been
a
multiple
padding.
A
Okay,
all
right
I
have
no
more
questions
this
time.
You
want
us
to
have
a
question.
C
Okay,
it
was
actually
something
we
had
discussed
previously.
Hoping
councils
like
yourself
that
are
in
the
area,
might
give
us
a
little
bit
of
feedback.
It
has
been
challenging
and
coping.
You
know
women
love
to
invite
people
onto
the
campus
and
talk
about
it
there,
but
the
population
is
just
too
sensitive
right
now.
So
that's
not
a
positive
input
on
how
we
should
host
that
and
what
would
be
that's
for
that
residential.
A
Community,
okay,
I'll
come
up
with
some
thoughts,
so
counselor
Vega
Maldonado
has
a
question
of
Thomas.
F
J
Theo
I
was
actually
gonna,
ask
the
same
question
in
terms
of
Outreach
in
in
canvassing
in
the
neighborhood,
because
I
actually
live
right
down
the
street
from
the
Soldiers
Home
area
and
and
like
I
for
the
town
hall,
I
I
didn't
receive
any
notifications
and
I
know
that
we
are
living
in
trying
times
and
it's
very
difficult
but
I
think
it's
essential
for
us
to
at
least
get
some
type
of
fire
notification
in,
if
I
mean
not
in
the
mail,
but
it
at
least
in
our
door
or
you
know,
if
you
communicate
with
us,
and
you
give
me
the
information
I,
don't
mind
doing
that.
J
I
literally
live
on
Clark
Ave,
so
I'm
totally
fine
with
doing
it.
I
just
think
it's
essential
for
our
neighbors
to
know.
What's
going
on
and
they're
very
vocal
when
they're
not
aware
of,
what's
going
on
so
yeah.
E
You
know,
and
then
the
next
will
be,
you
know
getting
back
to
the
neighborhood.
So
that's
there's,
there's
there's
we're
we're
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
process
we're
trying
to
even
understand.
We
only
want
to
have
a
few
more
answers.
Maybe
some
of
the
questions,
because
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
we
don't
know.
We
haven't
seen
that
yet
we
haven't
done
that
so.
But
yes,
there's
going
to
be
a
full
communication
process
and
no
interest
any
opportunity
for
any
input.
So.
A
Yeah
I
just
want
to
point
out
she's
the
district
councilor
up
there
and
that
she
is
a
great
social
resource,
so
she's
also
volunteering
at
the
time
her.
You
know
her
efforts
to
help
out
to
make
sure
the
residents
and
consulate
Lodge
he's
he
lives
in
the
area.
So
you
know
we
have
11
memberships
of
the
council.
A
We
had
six
online
tonight
with
us
here,
so
we
would
like
to
you
know
also
if
it's
possible,
if
you
have
a
shot
of
this
year,
we
can
keep
this
or
you
can
make
sure
that
we
get
one
just
in
case.
The
other
councils
want
to
look
back
at
this
PowerPoint
presentation,
but
I
just
wanted
to
just
put
that
up
and
say
that
those
two
councils
there
they're
they're
day
and
night-
that
we
have
other
counselors,
but
those
two
in
particularly
and
they
have
other
two
at
large
counselors-
will
be
there.
J
Thank
you.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
is
language,
and
you
know
making
sure
that
aside
from
English,
we
have
a
lot
of
Spanish
speakers
and
so
just
being
aware
of
that
and
the
cultural
promises.
It's
really
important
in
making
sure
that
we
are
just
and
so.
E
Sacrament
Church
in
square
and.
A
Any
more
questions,
any
other
concept,
follow-up
questions.
You
know:
Mr
Manor,
do
you
have
a
closing
statement?
If
you
want
to
you
know,
first
of
all,
we
want
to
again
on
absence
about
President
who's
with
us
on
Zoom
here
I
want
to
just
thank
you
folks
for
coming
out
tonight.
Just
update
us.
A
A
Hopefully,
by
the
late
spring
early
summer,
there'll
be
some
kind
of
meetings
within
City
Hall,
going
for
permitting
going
before
forward,
reflected
make
that
notification
known
to
the
residents
and
we
I
know
myself
and
Conference
Robinson.
We
attended
the
first
one
where
it
was
talking
about
the
trustees
and
what
they
had
to
do
to
make
this
available
impossible.
So
we're
excited
to
get
the
answer
back
for
the
city
managers
question
regarding
what
that
decision
was
made,
whether
they
had
a
agreement
with
the
trustees
or
they
can
bypass
it.
A
But
we're
grateful
that
you
came
over
and
shared
this
information
with
us
and
if
you
have
any
closing
statement
to
remarks,
please.
E
E
E
A
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
also
have
one
more
question.
Just
came
back
to
me
because
I
saw
it
so
you're.
The
developer,
like
I,
also
saw
in
the
corner,
you're
also
the
management.
So
well,
yes,
a
property
management.
Okay,
now
the
property
manager
will
they
be
on
site?
Yes,
they
will
okay
all
right.
Thank
you.
So
any
other
questions,
any
other
questions.
Okay,
thank
you
for
your
time.
I
don't
have
the
gala,
but
we
we'll.