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From YouTube: City Council Sub Committee of 10-18-19
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City of Chelsea, Discuss order that the Chelsea City Council hereby expressly DISAPPROVES the $317,422,620 borrowing and debt authorized on September 9, 2021 by the Northeast Metropolitan Regional Vocational School District Committee for the purpose of paying costs of designing, engineering, constructing and equipping the New Northeast Metropolitan Regional Vocational School and related athletic facilities and expressly does NOT authorize the payment of any share of the District’s debt for this purpose.
A
B
B
C
Thank
you,
mr
president,
so
I
will
be
brief.
My
position
is
laid
out
pretty
clearly
in
the
letter
that
I
sent
you
on
september
21st,
but
in
essence
I
am
not
opposed
to
the
building
of
a
new
high
school
for
a
northeast
metropolitan
regional
vocational
district.
It
is
it's
clear
that
a
new
high
school
is
needed,
but
I
oppose
the
way
the
school
is
going
to
be
funded.
It
is
funded
exclusively
by
for
the
district
communities.
C
C
This
current
in
this
last
enrollment
that
we've
seen
we
send
238
students
to
the
vote,
but
what
it
means
is
that
we're
paying
a
significant
share
of
this
school,
almost
57
million
dollars
of
the
remaining
176
million
dollar
balance
that
the
district
has
to
come
up
with,
after
taking
into
account
the
massachusetts
school
building,
authorities
grant
and
it's
simply
unaffordable
for
the
city
of
chelsea
to
have
to
bond
that
amount
of
money.
Over
30
years.
The
cost
of
the
city
of
chelsea
annually
for
the
next
30
years
be
approximately
1.9
million
dollars
a
year.
C
Over
and
above
what
we're
already
paying
understand,
we
can
only
raise
every
year
under
proposition
two
and
a
half
1.7
million
dollars,
so
committing
to
this
debt
would
mean
that
every
single
year
for
the
next
30
years,
virtually
every
dollar
that
we
can
raise.
Every
new
tax
dollar
will
be
going
to
this
one
project
and
there
will
be
nothing
not
a
dime
left
for
the
city
of
chelsea
to
cover
any
of
its
other
costs,
including
normal
salary,
increases.
C
Normal
operating
expense
increases
all
the
other
initiatives
that
we
have
been
doing
for
the
last
few
years.
We
will
have
no
room
whatsoever
to
do
any
of
that.
For
that
reason,
I
tell
you
this
is
unaffordable
in
its
current
financial
construct
to
the
city
of
chelsea,
and
that
is
why
I
am
advocating
that
you
vote
no.
B
B
D
B
E
D
Has
increased
a
little
a
little
each
year,
so
we're
still
peaking
at
about
238
right
now
and
if
you
think
about
it,
that's
equivalent
to
about
three
million
dollars.
That
is
leaving
the
city
every
year
in
our
general
fund
budget.
But
we
have
encouraged
students
to
attend
northeast
vo
tech
because
we
want
our
students
to
have
that
opportunity.
B
There's
been
talk
of
discussion
that
there's
a
normal
allocation
number
that
chelsea
receives
for
a
number
of
seats,
but
that
chelsea
actually
supersedes
that,
because
maybe
other
communities
are
not
taking
up
those
seats.
Can
you
say
what
is
the
normal
or
allocation
per
the
agreement
with
northeast
volk,
for
how
many
students
are
supposed
to
be
going
to
northeast
volk
as
a
right
versus
as
a
surplus.
E
E
D
I
will
say
to
my
friends
at
northeast
vo
tech.
We
are
super
supportive
of
building
a
skull,
but
at
the
same
time,
for
the
reasons
that
our
city
manager
has
just
mentioned,
I
I
cannot
support
that
as
well.
We
do
want
to
support
in
every
way
we're
grateful
for
taking
chelsea
students,
but
at
the
same
time
it
comes
out.
This
will
come
at
a
great
cost
to
our
residents.
A
F
I
brought
with
me
tonight
my
finance
director,
jay
bacone
and
our
financial
consultant,
charles
lyons,
that
I
hope
the
committee
will
consider
them
speaking
as
well,
because
I'll
be
honest
with
you
when
it
comes
to
the
dollars
and
the
facts
and
the
figures
there's
nobody
better
than
these
guys,
and
that
includes
me
as
well.
So.
F
F
Unfortunately,
I
I
did
not,
you
know,
receive
much
feedback
over
those
six
years
about
where
we
are
right.
Now
I
was
very
happy.
I
watched
projects
throughout
the
city
over
those
years
happen
once
that
you
know
as
an
educator.
I
am
biased,
but
were
less
important
to
the
future
of
the
children
of
of
chelsea
than
I
felt
northeast
was
so
I
had
the
feeling
that
we
were
on
a
road
to
success
and
that
we
were
going
to
together
make
this
happen
and
make
this
reality.
F
F
F
F
I
ask
for
an
open
mind.
Okay,
I
asked
for
an
opportunity
for
mr
alliance
to
present
a
few
things,
because
northeast
is
dying.
This
isn't
a
case
of,
wouldn't
it
be
great.
If
we
had
a
new
school,
how
awesome
it
would
be
to
have
all
these
new
classrooms
northeast
will
have
to
close
down
in
the
near
future
permanently
and
the
students
who
are
at
northeast
when
that
happens.
F
F
Are
we
just
going
to
say
chelsea
no
longer
wants
their
students
to
be
educated
with
a
vocational
technical
education.
Maybe
that's
a
tragedy
tragedy.
If
that
happens,
and
I
base
that
purely
on
the
success
of
the
students
who
come
from
chelsea
who
go
to
northeast
my
family's
from
chelsea,
they
lived
for
generations
on
crescent
avenue.
F
F
I
get
the
dollars
and
cents,
I'm
not
trying
to
tell
chelsea
they
have
more
money
than
what
they
make
out
to
be,
or
vice
versa.
Okay,
a
letter
was
written
to
me.
We
did
respond
to
that
letter,
but
I
owe
it
to
the
families
who
I
have
to
receive
phone
calls
from
because
their
children
didn't
get
accepted
to
northeast.
F
F
F
So
I
beg
you
to
reconsider
the
motion.
You
have
in
front
of
you
and
I
beg
you
to
look
close
at
your
finances
and
see
that
maybe
it's
not
as
black
and
white
as
not
having
the
money,
because
there
are
two
things:
there's
not
having
the
money
and
not
prioritizing
what
you
want
to
spend
on
that
money
to
include
a
vocational
education.
F
A
couple
years
ago,
my
son,
my
wife,
came
home
from
the
dentist
and
they
said
your
son
daughter.
He
needs
braces
immediately,
and
I
said
we
don't
have
the
money
for
braces.
What
do
you
mean?
I
thought
he
didn't
need
braces
until
he
was
a
teenager.
He's
only
11,
12
years
old,
we
can't
afford
it.
We
don't
have
the
money.
F
G
B
Is
the
only
form
that
we
actually
are
able
to
go
back
and
forth
with
questions
and
such
we
do
have
a
regularly
scheduled
meeting
at
7
p.m.
So,
under
that
timeline
we
gave
you.
Hopefully
the
whole
hour
to
you
know,
make
your
presentation
and
then,
if
there's
any
back
and
forth
between
us
and
the
city
council
and
the
in
your
in
your
team,
so
I
would
say,
allow
your
team
to
try
to
make
its
presentation
as
quickly
as
possible.
B
F
Bank
and
we
have
12
cities
in
thompson,
every
every
board
is
different,
so
I
apologize
when
I
saw
just
my
name.
The
last
town
I
was
in
said:
if
you're
not
on
the
agenda,
you
can't
speak
unless
you're
a
citizen,
so
that
that's
great
news.
So
if
I
could
call
mr
lyons
up,
that
would
be
great
and
again
this
is
charles
lyons
alliance.
Consulting.
H
I
work
with
the
superintendent
and
other
superintendents
around
the
state
who
have
to
rebuild
aging
vocational
regional
school
districts
that
were
all
created
about
50
years
ago
and
they're,
expensive
and
they're
expensive
to
rebuild,
and
I've
worked
with
your
municipal
leader
here
mr
ambrosino,
trying
to
get
the
state
to
kick
in
more
money
to
reduce
the
cost
to
member
communities
and
we're
continuing
that
effort.
But
here's
where
we
are
this,
this
school
district
has
the
greatest
or
the
largest
wait
list
in
the
state
they
had
over.
800
8th
graders
apply
this
year.
H
H
I
do
seminars
on
chapter
70
and
have
done
it
for
a
number
of
years,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
if
a
chelsea
student
goes
to
northeast
the
operational
cost
per
pupil
assessment
to
the
city
of
chelsea
is
a
little
over
four
thousand
dollars
into
nine
of
the
twelve
communities.
The
assessment
per
pupils
a
little
over
seventeen
thousand
dollars
per
pupil.
H
H
H
I
grew
up
in
arlington
and
I'm
proud
of
that,
but
we
used
to
stick
kids
in
the
basement
of
local
high
school
in
arlington
and
we
offered
four
vocational
programs
when
I
first
joined
at
school
committee
back
in
1972.,
and
it
took
local
leaders
from
arlington
and
other
communities
to
form
a
different
regional,
vocational,
technical,
school
district
and
so
what's
being
recommended
to
you
tonight
is
to
say:
well,
we
can't
afford
it
and
that's
a
decision.
I
respect,
if
that's
the
recommendation
of
your
town,
manager
or
city
manager,
that
you
can't
afford
it.
H
That's
okay,
but,
as
I
indicated
there
are
over
800
students
who
applied
to
that
school
district,
what
happened
in
the
minuteman
district
and
is
going
to
happen
in
other
multiple
districts
around
the
state.
Is
those
communities
that
don't
want
to
rebuild
the
school
district
or
participate
can
withdraw
from
the
school
district
and
that
has
to
be
initiated
by
the
city
council?
H
Tonight
is
what
are
you
going
to
replace
it
with
every
vocational
technical
school
district
around
northeast
is
maxed
out
in
terms
of
student
interest,
you're
aborted
by
the
city
of
boston
and
you're,
boarded
by
the
atlantic
ocean,
and
you
don't
have
a
lot
of
options
and
you
don't
want
to
go
back
to
the
time
where
urban
children
didn't
have
the
same
access
to
terrific
regional
vocational
technical
schools
that
offered
20
different
options
for
students
to
explore
and
participate
the
richness
of
northeast
vocational
technical
high
school.
The
richness
is
the
composition
of
its
student
body.
H
H
H
He
said
nobody
will
let
chelsea
join
an
athletic
contact
athletic
league,
where
our
kids
can
be
competitive
with
other
teams.
They
were
in
the
greater
boston
lake
and
it
was
very
difficult
for
them.
My
athletic
directors
in
the
commonwealth
conference
voted
not
to
allow
chelsea
in
and
when
jay
told
me
the
story.
I
called
every
superintendent
and
we
reversed
vote
and
we
had
the
wealth
of
chelsea
kids
participating
in
the
athletic
conference
with
vocational
technical
schools
for
the
next
15
years.
H
H
I
urge
you,
as
requested
by
the
superintendent,
to
visit
northeast
folk
tech
between
now
and
election
day
or
november.
You
can
always
vote
to
support
the
town
city
manager's
recommendation.
If
you
do
that
by
november,
8th
you've
met
the
threshold,
but
just
open
your
eyes
for
the
next
three
weeks
and
give
yourself
the
opportunity
to
experience
the
true
value,
the
regional
vocational
technical
education
office
and
has
offered
chelsea
kids
for
a
number
of
years.
H
H
H
H
You
know
I've
had
a
lot
of
great
experiences
in
my
life
and
one
of
the
most
telling
one
was
when
I
was
on
the
board
of
directors
of
national
lincoln
cities,
and
I
sat
across
a
friend
from
michigan
who
lamented
about
the
environmental
challenges
the
city
has.
He
said:
what
are
you
guys
doing
in
boston?
B
B
H
It's
decided
by
regional
agreement
and
it's
based
strictly
on
a
per-pupil
basis.
You
don't
go
out
and
do
the
bond
issue.
The
regional
school
district
does
the
bond
issue
and
it's
giving
you
a
projection
based
upon
a
stable
enrollment,
but
the
class
of
the
building
will
be
done
strictly
based
upon
the
number
of
students
divided
into
about
10
million
dollars
a
year
for
the
next
30
years,
beginning
in
fiscal
26.
B
F
B
So
my
question
is
there
there
are
times
when
and
that's
the
confusion.
Part
here
is
what
I
think
is
that
you're
saying
it's
it's
based
on
10
percent
of
the
school
enrollment,
but
there
are
per
opportunities
where,
for
example,
let's
say
wakefield
isn't
isn't
taking
advantage
of
or
doesn't
fill
the
seats
that
it's
supposed
to
correct,
correct
all
right,
and
but
the
assessment
that
we
have
is
based
on
what
chelsea
is
currently
sending
to
the
northeast
folk
yep.
H
The
assessment
will
change
just
just
so
that
we're
real
clear
in
this
okay,
if
we
were
going
to
borrow
100
million
dollars
or
200
million
dollars
today
over
a
30-year
period.
Much
like
a
mortgage
in
a
house,
your
sheer
of
that
assessment
will
be
based
in
change,
fluctuate
yearly
based
upon
the
percentage
of
students
from
your
community
that
are
attending
that
school
on
october
1st
every
year.
H
So,
mr
chairman,
so,
mr
president,
so
if,
if
the
following
year,
when
we
go
from
right
now,
we
have
1281
students
as
of
last
october,
when
we
go
up
100
students
a
year
to
get
to
1600,
the
assumption
is-
and
we've
shared
this
with
tom
and
others
and
all
the
other
managers.
The
assumption
the
assumption
is
your
percentage
of
the
whole
will
stay
the
same
because
it's
been
pretty
stable,
you've
gone
from.
H
The
bond
change
your
share
of
the
bond
issue
of
the
dow,
your
sheer.
If
that
happened,
sargassu's
cost
would
go
up,
and
your
share
of
the
bond
issue
for
that
year
would
go
down
the
the
mind
issue
cost.
If
you
look
at
the
material
that
we
presented
to
you
and
if
you
flip
over,
for
example,
to
the
second
page-
and
this
is
put
together
by
hilltop
securities,
which
is
the
same
financial
advisor
that
the
city
of
chelsea
has
used.
H
H
H
It
shows
you
the
total
bonded
indebtedness
for
that
year,
and
so
that
number,
for
example,
in
fy
23
it'll,
be
one
million
eight
hundred
and
eighty
two
thousand
dollars,
or
something
like
that.
Sixty
two
thousand
that's
divided
by
1281
students.
Your
share
of
that
is
based
upon
the
number
of
students
from
chelsea
going
to
northeast
the
the
last
figure
in
the
right
column
will
not
increase,
and
we
think
by
the
way,
it's
high,
because
we
use
the
four
percent
interest
rate
on
the
bonds
which
we
think
is
high.
H
H
H
B
H
H
The
rating
will
not
be
assessed
until
prior
to
the
school
district
going
out
and
doing
a
borrowing,
but
I
can
tell
you
from
my
experience
it's
based
upon
the
bond
ratings
of
the
member
communities,
so
you
have
five
communities
here
that
I
think
are
aaa
and
everybody
else
is
double
a
or
higher,
and
so
the
bond
rating
that
either
moody's
or
standard
and
poor's
will
assign
northeast
folk
tech
will
principally
be
based
upon
the
collective
bond
and
the
bond
ratings
of
all
the
communities.
That's
why
we
provided
that
information.
H
I
H
Yeah
we
we,
we,
fortunately
got
some
support
from
bob
deleo
before
he
left
and
we
ensured
through
the
fy
21
budget,
that
northeast
would
have
the
highest
reimbursement
rate
it
could
have
had,
even
if
you
go
back
to
2014.,
so
the
reimbursement
rate
that
we
currently
have
is
77
percent
of
all
eligible
project
costs.
77.
H
H
So
because
of
that
the
actual
reimbursement
rate
and
they
cap
site
costs
they
cap.
They
cap
construction
costs
per
square
foot
because
of
that
the
actual
reimbursement
rate
goes
down
to
144
percent,
and
so
mr
de
barry,
along
with
two
other
regional
superintendents
diamond
regional's,
got
a
300
million
dollar
project
for
1500
students.
H
Bristol
plymouth
has
a
306
million
dollar
project
for
1450
students,
they've
written
a
wonderful
letter.
We've
shared
with
your
city
manager
complaining
that
the
msba
methodology
needs
to
be
modernized,
and
we've
shared
that
with
our
friends
from
the
alliance
and
vocational
technical
education
and
with
them
we
filed
a
comprehensive
piece
of
legislation,
had
two
vocational
experts
to
the
mass
school
building
authority
advisory
committee
and
we've
also
filed
legislation
to
give
you
some
flexibility
locally.
H
I
I
H
H
H
I
Yeah,
mr
president,
my
last
client,
I
just
think
it's
awful
awful
commitment
for
us
as
the
smallest
community
and
we
would
have
to
pay
one
of
the
heftiest
investments
of
it
and
again
I
appreciate
what
you
talked
about
when
you
had
the
shops
in
the
bottom
of
the
schools.
I
went
to
hyde
park
high.
We
had
the
same
thing
you
had
four
or
not
20..
So
for
the
sake
of
time,
thank
you
for
your
question.
Answering
the
questions.
C
I
I
haven't
even
given
a
thought
to
withdrawal,
that's
not
going
to
be
triggered
by
this
vote.
What's
going
to
be
triggered
by
this
vote
is
a
vote
of
the
district,
and
if
the
vote
passes,
we'll
have
to
come
up
with
this
money,
somehow
as
difficult
a
financial
predicament
that
will
put
us
in,
we
will
have
no
choice
but
to
do
that
if
it.
C
If
the
vote
fails,
I
think
the
district
will
have
to
get
together,
because
it
would
mean
that
a
majority
of
the
residents
of
the
whole
district
did
not
want
the
school
to
move
forward
and
it'd
have
to
come
up
with
a
different
approach.
Maybe
it
is
a
less
expensive
new
building.
Maybe
it
is
something
else.
C
I'm
saying
to
you
under
the
current
formula.
Chelsea
cannot
afford
its
share
of
this
317
million
dollar
building.
It's
not
like.
We
are
prioritizing
other
spending
over
this
splitting
a
pie
and
trying
to
keep
a
little
more
of
the
pie
for
ourselves.
This
is
a
situation
where
the
entire
pie,
our
entire
proposition
two
and
a
half
increase,
will
have
to
go
to
northeast
folk.
C
That
will
be
the
only
expenditure
we
can
make
out
of
every
dollar
we
can
raise
under
proposition
two
and
a
half,
and
I'm
telling
you
that
is
inequitable
that
is
not
happening
in
winchester.
It
is
not
happening
in
north
reading.
It
is
not
happening
in
stoneham.
It
is
not
happening
in
these
other
districts
that
will
gladly
pass
this.
It's
happening
in
chelsea.
J
D
D
If
there
were
a
case
where
our
students
would
have
we
would
drop
out
of
this,
you
better
bet.
I
would
have
a
plan
in
place.
I
have
started
an
early
college
before
that
was
tied
to
a
vo-tech
and
the
previous
district
that
I
worked
in.
I
am
not
afraid
to
start
schools
up
from
the
ground
up,
and
this
community
would
work
together
to
figure
something
out
for
our
children.
G
G
H
First
of
all,
I
I
don't
want
to
take
any
liberties
here,
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
deal
with
this.
It
would
solve
the
enrollment
problem
at
northeast.
If
chelsea
wanted
to
go
on
its
own,
they
wouldn't
they
wouldn't
have.
They
wouldn't
have
to
deny
sixty
percent
of
the
kids
that
are
applying
there.
They'd
be
able
to
accept
more
students.
H
H
The
equity
issue,
with
all
due
respect,
the
biggest
challenge
we're
having
is
talking
to
remember
communities
and
they're,
saying
how
come
chelsea
only
pays
forty
two
hundred
dollars
per
pupil
to
send
a
kid
to
northeast
and
we're
paying
17
000.
it
it
it.
It
leaves
that
argument
and
it
goes
someplace
else.
So
the
answer
to
your
question
is
a
no
vote
in
a
withdrawal
by
chelsea
would
put
us
back
to
the
drawing
table,
but
because
of
so
many
students
wanting
to
go
there,
it
would
it
would.
H
It
would
lessen
the
diversity
at
northeast
folk
tech
and
take
that
opportunity
away
from
chelsea
students,
but
it
would
actually
lessen
the
waitlist
that
northeast
presently
has,
or
maybe
they
take.
You
know
a
floor
off
its
design
plants
and
builds
a
smaller
school
to
accommodate
the
communities
that
still
want
to
belong.
H
H
G
Question
is
for
this.
I
believe
it
was
a
superintendent
that
spoke
earlier
said
to
give
it
60
days
and
for
us
to
keep
an
open
mind
and
I'm
just
curious
about
what
intentions
do
you
have
to
do
in
those
60
days
to
come
back
with
something
that
might
look
different
for
us?
If
we're
going
to
go
and
do
you
know,
have
our
open
mind,
what
are
you
doing
in
that
time
frame
sure.
F
So,
like
I
mentioned
earlier,
this
started
for
me
six
years
ago
and
that's
why
it's
amazing
to
hear
tonight
for
the
first
time
in
six
years
that
the
issue
is
actually
the
formula
so
had
the
town
manager
told
me
six
years
ago,
as
well
as
the
other
communities
involved,
that
the
issue
was
the
way
that
the
the
percentages
are
divided
up.
I
would
have
joined
him
at
the
state
house
at
the
msba
at
the
department
of
education,
and
I
would
have
fought
that
fight
with
you
all,
because
I
didn't
create
the
formula.
F
There
are
a
lot
of
things.
I
don't
agree
with
with
the
formula
that
was
what
was
in
place
when
I
started
my
position
and
I
vowed
to
do
anything
I
could
to
get
the
school
built
for
the
kids.
Like
I
had
said,
of
chelsea
and
revere,
I
have
been
at
that
state
house
pounding
doors
charlie,
and
I
have
a
mask
that
we
wheel
when
we
walk
by
msba,
because
we
put
so
much
pressure
on
them
to
increase
the
state's
allotment
to
this
project
so
that
the
impact
on
a
city
like
chelsea
would
be
minimized.
F
Secondly,
when
we
talk
about
new
plans,
some
of
you
have
been
through
the
msba
formula
before
the
msba
dictates
the
project
we
do
so.
When
we
met
with
the
msba,
we
shared
the
price
tag
of
what
it
would
cost
to
do.
Various
you
know
renovations
and
additions,
and
such
the
msba
found
that
this
was
the
most
amenable
to
a
positive
educational
plan,
as
well
as
the
cost
on
dollars.
G
G
I
guess
the
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
say
was:
I
was
a
former
student
of
northeast
and
my
apologies.
I
did
not
contribute
to
your
success
rate,
but
that
I
do
know
that
many
of
our
students
have
you
know.
Many
of
our
kids
are
ell
students,
and
so
you
know
when
you
english,
is
your
second
language.
They
work
better
with
their
hands,
there's
more
opportunity
for
our
kids
and
it
just
it
feels
kind
of
inequitable,
as
the
superintendent
said,
to
penalize
a
district
like
chelsea.
G
That
is
contributing
to
the
success
rate
that
I
didn't
help
build,
but
that,
and
it
just
feels
a
bit
inequitable
and
just
on
principle
alone.
I
I
just
it
just
feels
kind
of
uncomfortable
to
support
something
like
this,
but
I
appreciate
what
you
guys
doing
and
your
presentation
here
today
and
the
other
thing
is.
F
E
E
E
F
E
Well,
it
gets
back
to
my
point
about
the
number
of
students
that
we
had
in
the
beginning
that
we
were
responsible
for
and
when
the
other
communities
didn't
send
students,
we
got
those
thoughts
and
we're
kind
of
being
penalized.
I
look
at
it
like
we
saved
the
school
by
sending
our
students
there
right
and
now
that
we're
being
penalized
by
saying
you
know
now,
the
cost
is
just
going
to
be
prohibited
to
the
city
of
chelsea.
F
If
we
did
not
have
those
extra
seats,
I
can
tell
you
there
would
be
endless
amounts
of
families
devastated
because
they
didn't
get
the
opportunity
through
those
open
seats
and,
like
I
said
earlier,
I
get
the
calls
when
they
don't
get
accepted
and
I
luckily
I
get
the
you
know,
act
accolades
when
they
do
get
accepted.
I
think
it
would
be
tragic
if
we
had
the
same
amount
of
seats
than
we
did
when
the
school
opened.
There
would
be
so
many
missed
opportunities
for
your
residents.