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From YouTube: City Council Sub Committee Meeting of 5-31-22
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City of Chelsea
A
B
A
All
right,
so
let
me
just
gavel
this
thing
together,
ricky's
on
right
now,
good
evening.
Everyone
we'll
now
start
the
6
p.m.
Meeting
of
the
city
council
special
subcommittee
on
conference
to
discuss
the
continued
discussion
of
the
proposed
budget
for
fy23
officials
invited
to
attend
tonight's
subcommittee
meeting,
are
city
manager,
tom
ambrosino,
all
honorable
members
of
the
city
council,
north
suffolk
mental
health
representatives
roca,
incorporated
representatives,
la
cobra,
diva
representatives,
catholic
representatives
and
all
members
of
the
public.
At
this
time.
I'll
ask
the
city
clerk,
chelsea
council
clerk
to
do.
C
A
Thank
you
so
tonight's
on
agenda
for
tonight
are
the
four
entities
that
have
contracts
with
the
city
as
part
of
the
discussion
for
this
fy23
budget
decided
to
invite
them.
So
they
explain
a
little
bit
about
the
programming
that
they
do
with
the
funding
that
is
received
first
up
to
discuss
their
programming
is
north
suffolk,
mental
health.
A
I
invite
you
to
please
introduce
yourself
state
your
name
into
the
microphone
and
then
take
us
through
your
presentation
and
we'll
ask
questions
afterwards.
We
do
have
an
email
communication
from
the
city
manager
earlier
tonight
regards
to
the
question
as
to
the
amounts
that
each
of
the
attendees
have
north
suffolk
mental
health
itself
has
a
hundred
a
contract
with
a
hundred
and
fifty
two
thousand
dollars
for
two
navigators,
and
that
includes
the
new
overtime
component.
A
E
I
just
want
to
clarify
something
so
we're
clear
what
I've
identified
for
you
are
the
contracts
that
we
fund
to
these
organizations
out
of
our
operating
budget.
Certain
of
these
organizations
have
other
funding
that
can
funnel
through
the
city.
For
example,
roca
has
a
large
contract
with
the
state
for
safe
and
secure
youth.
If
it's
a
state
contract
it
funnels
through
the
city,
but
it
is
not
in
our
operating
budget,
we're
not
paying
directly
for
it.
E
These
are
monies
that
are
in
that
operating
budget
that
you
are
about
to
approve
in
june,
and
they
are
identified
in
that
email
response
that
I
gave
to
you
so
far,
not
suffolk.
They
have
this
one
contract
budgeted
through
the
operating
budget,
it's
for
a
hundred
and
fifty
two
thousand
dollars.
It
is
to
support
the
work
of
the
two
navigators
that
are
here
tonight.
A
F
F
If
you
turn
to
page
two,
I
can
scroll
down,
it
will
talk,
it
talks
about
all
of
the
referral
sources
and
where
the
navigators
get
most
of
their
referrals
and
then
also
the
outcomes
of
all
of
the
engagements
so
I'll.
Let
jason
talk
a
little
bit
as
to
what
exactly
they
do
on
the
day-to-day
and
go
from
there.
H
H
For
the
most
part,
we
get
a
lot
of
denial
of
services,
they
don't
want
it
they're,
not
ready,
but
we
continue
continue
to
go
back
and
go
back
and
go
back
until
we
actually,
we
could
place
them
into
a
detox
if
it's
a
mental
health
crisis.
We
place
them
in
the
in
the
proper
venue
that
to
help
give
them
services
and
normally
where
our
job
is
to
take
that
individual
connect
them
into
a
program
and
move
on
to
the
next
client.
H
We
haven't
done
that
from
day
one
since
I've
taken
over
the
navigator
program
under
the
supervision
of
katie
and
then
timmy
come
on
a
little
bit
over
a
year
ago.
We
try
to
walk
them
through
the
whole
process.
So
if
they
go
to
detox
from
detox,
we
can
get
them
in
a
holding
facility.
Then
a
halfway
house,
then
we
come
back
and
we
partner
with
catholic,
we
partner
with
the
collaborative
we
partner
with
a
lot
of
different
agencies,
to
try
to
give
them
the
best
shot
that
they
can
have.
H
H
We
had
some
people
that
had
frozen
to
death
in
the
city
of
chelsea,
due
to
alcoholism
and
terrible,
absolutely
terrible,
and
so
whenever
we
hear
that,
if
something
does
happen,
we
try
to
ramp
it
up
and
and
just
kick
it
up
a
notch
and
and
keep
going.
The
city
now
has
us
working
at
seven
to
seven
on
tuesdays
and
thursdays,
and
and
it's
been
fruitful
and
and
we've
we've.
I
can
tell
you
if
you
give
me
one
moment:
I'm
an
old
man.
H
We
placed
87
of
those
individuals
in
actual
detox
units,
not
an
easy
task
to
do,
especially
with
a
lot
of
our
undocumented
folks
that
that
are
suffering
from
drug
addiction,
alcoholism,
they're
only
given
a
special
mass
health
limited
which,
like
so,
if,
god
forbid,
I
had
the
issue.
I
have
80
detoxes
that
I
can
go
through
my
insurance.
They
have
three
in
the
state
of
massachusetts.
Those
beds
are
eaten
up
and
gone
by
8
30
a.m
in
the
morning,
so
to
actually
go
ahead
and
fight
for
that
bed
on
a
daily
basis.
H
I
watched
him
sometimes
on
the
phone
for
five
hours,
for
one
guy,
obviously
we're
doing
more
multitasking,
but
just
to
get
that
one
individual
out
of
harm's
way
and
get
him
in
the
detox
and-
and
you
know,
roll
the
dice
and
see
what
happens
and
when
they
get
out
we're
waiting
for
them
like
we.
You
know
we
welcomed
some
guys
just
this
morning
that
just
got
out
and
placed
them
in
further
treatment,
but
yeah.
F
It
kind
of
sets
you
as
a
community,
apart
from
all
of
the
other
communities.
I
work
in
like
this
is
the
one
that
I
brag
about
the
most,
because
you
guys
have
been
able
to
think
outside
the
box,
and
you
actually
put
your
money
where
your
mouth
is,
and
you
guys
actually
see
the
results
where
some
of
these
other
cities
in
town
say:
I'm
gonna
do
this,
I'm
gonna
do
that,
but
they
don't
put
the
funding
behind
it
and
therefore
there's
no
there's
no
results.
F
It's
just
a
lot
of
meetings
and
a
lot
of
talk
of
what
we're
going
to
do,
but
that
never
comes
to
fruition.
So
I
I
applaud
you
and
commend
you
for
you
know
actually
stepping
up,
and
you
know
putting
the
putting
some
money
behind
the
words
making
things
happen
rather
than
just
saying
that
they're
going
to
happen.
A
J
J
I
mean
it
must
be
some
type
of
frustration.
I
do
a
lot
of
outreach
and
I
do
some
ministry
work
and
you
know
it's
just
so
hard
to
get
them
into
those
lack
of
beds
and
those
lack
of
housing
opportunity.
So
you
say
you
contact,
maybe
about
300
plus
and
about
87
of
them.
You
were
able
to
get
into
some
type
of
detox
and
some
do
you
how
what's
the
current
reoccurrence
of
them
coming
back
on
the
streets,
I
mean:
what's
the
success
out
of
that
87.
H
H
Yeah
and
most
of
our
clients
have
it
all.
You
know
what
I
mean:
mental
health
and
drug
addiction
and
alcohol
go
together
like
peanut
butter
and
jelly.
That's
usually
always
in
the
forefront
of
the
client
that
we're
dealing
with
at
the
moment,
they're
suffering
from
all
of
this
stuff.
At
the
same
time,
so
the
wrap
around
that
we
have
to
go
through
them.
It's
not
going
to
work.
If
we
just
say
all
right.
Here's
a
detox
see
you
later.
H
We
need
to
go
further
and
actually
try
to
get
them
further
treatment
or
get
them
in.
You
know
special
care,
we're
blessed
and
lucky
in
a
city
that
not
we're
all
obviously
supported,
but
with
the
hub
and
the
task
force,
and-
and
you
know
we
just
the
amount
of
cooperation
that
we
have
from
all
the
other
non-profits
we
couldn't
do
half
the
stuff
we
do
if
we
didn't
have
catholic
like
right
there
with
us
that
are
helping
us
with
an
id
paying
for
a
sober
house.
H
J
Wow
we're
ready
for
eleven,
so
I
I
like
that
part
of
the
story
with
the
87,
but
the
frustration
also-
and
I
know
the
lack
of
funding
the
lack
of
detox,
the
lack
of
housing
opportunity.
What
about
the
other
number?
I
mean,
what
what
more
are
we
to
do?
I
know
you
guys
are
out
there
on
the
front
line
you're
out
there
you
see
it.
J
I
mean
with
the
frustration
with
your
reference
because
there's
another
number
after,
if
you
got
300
plus
and
we're
talking
about
a
success
story
of
87,
did
someone
say
well,
you
know
what
I
keep
trying.
I
keep
lining
up,
I'm
here
at
seven
o'clock.
I
just
can't
get
into
a
detox,
so
I'm
just
what
choice
do
I
have.
H
Yeah,
it's
tough
and
services
are
limited
in
the
services
that
they're
getting
provided
to
mr
brown
is,
is
the
whole
state
is
trying
to
take
a
bite
off
that
apple,
so
we
we
we
try
to
get
creative
and
and
and
come
up
with
ways
to
try
to
get
them
in
and
if
we
don't
get
them
on
tuesday
we're
going
to
be
there
wednesday,
thursday,
friday
saturday
sunday.
I
now
live
here
again,
so
you
know
I'm
accessible
and
and
and
we're
gonna
just
keep
doing
it
as
far
as
frustration
as
a
frontline
worker.
H
I
I
can
honestly
say
that
now,
I'm
working
for
an
agency
that
I
feel
fully
100,
supported
by
and
and
and
this
city
has
taken
good
care
of
me,
because
I
have
done
everything
I
possibly
could
to
try
to
make
this
city
a
better
place
to
live.
So
I
am,
I
I'm
so
blessed
to
actually
be
able
to
live
and
work
here.
So
the
frustration
level
for
me
as
a
front
line
worker.
I
I
got
no
complaints.
J
Well,
I
appreciate
your
efforts
and
I
know
my
other
colleagues
have
some
questions,
but
I
I
applaud
what
you
do
and
I'm
glad
that
the
city
has
this
partnership
and
we
look
forward
to.
I
speak
for
myself
to
continue
working
with
the
city
manager
and
all
those
other
council
members
that
want
to
make
sure
that
we
not
only
just
get
them
out
to
square,
but
also
get
them
into
some
of
these
programs
that
will
help
them
in
their
livelihoods.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
K
I
I
I
F
I
know
really
early
on.
We
did
like
a
couple
of
community
events
in
terms
of
inviting
the
whole
community
out
and
kind
of
educating
them
about
the
resources
that
are
available,
maybe
doing
that
biannually
or
something
like
that
and
holding
like
hosting
some
kind
of
forums
in
terms
of
prevention
and
education,
so
that
people
know
when
these
things
do
arise
where
to
go
and
get
help.
H
And
if
I
may,
as
far
as
you're,
asking
what
you
guys
can
do
as
a
city
council
and-
and
I
guess
talk
to
our
friends
in
the
state
house
for
more
beds
because
more
beds
are
imperative,
they
they
have
to,
they
have
to
exist.
It's
unfair
that
we
are
in
an
epidemic.
We
just
come
out
of
a
pandemic,
we're
in
an
epidemic
before
the
pandemic.
Right
now,
it's
even
you
know
now
it's
times
10.
and
and
they
close
places.
H
K
K
You
know
we've
got
sometimes
sometimes
when,
when
you
try
to
get
things
done,
you're
a
little
bit
damned
if
you
do
and
damned
if
you
don't-
and
so
you
know
you
try
to
build
more
stuff,
but
then
people
start
screaming
about
density
and
then
density,
and
it's
just
like
you
know
what
do
you
we
it's
like
a
rubik's
cube
and
so,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
I
think
you're
right.
I
think
the
state
definitely
needs
to
step
up
with
with
that,
but
is
is
the
number
is
the?
K
H
I've
been
working
in
the
field
for
15
years,
I'm
also
clean
and
sober
18.,
so
I've
been
in
this
industry
for
a
long
time,
so
we
know
how
to
get
over
the
hump
around
it.
Yeah
blow
it
up
if
it's
in
the
way
to
actually
get
a
client
help.
We
we
now
with
an
agency
working
with
an
agency
that
has
grown
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
and
and
so
we
have
a
lot
of
services
through
them.
We
use
our
co-workers.
H
We
use
our
recovery
coaches,
we
use
you,
know,
judges,
clerks
police,
like
we
have
a
police
department
here,
there's
a
few
officers
in
the
city
of
chelsea
that
I
have
literally
been
in
the
police
car
with
them
driving
an
individual
to
boston
to
detox
officer
barboza.
You
know
I
mean
she
throws
a
guy
right
in
the
back
of
her
cruiser
and
off.
We
go
unheard
of,
doesn't
happen
anywhere.
H
F
And
I
will
say
with
like
the
pharmaceutical
money
that
was
brought
in
through,
like
the
attorney
general's
lawsuits.
The
first
four
priorities
that
came
out
of
committee
were
expansion
of
methadone
services,
expansion
of
harm
reduction.
It
was
short-term,
stable
housing
and
long-term
housing.
So
there's.
C
F
K
A
Work
being
done
at
a
younger
age
and
so
forth,
I
believe
that
that
was
part
of
the
conversation
during
the
opera
discussion
and
I'm
hoping
that
you
know.
Of
course
the
city
manager
is
here
and
the
staff
is
developing
the
plan,
but
you
know
it
was
mentioned
in
committee.
It
was
hopefully
will
be.
Something
will
come
out
of
that
and
we'll
have
some
of
that
service
for
the
younger
adults
and
children
or
you
know,
sort
of
the
the
preventative
work
that
will
be
needed,
but
dejesus.
L
Thank
you,
president.
Good
evening.
I
am
like
a
huge
fan
of
this
team
right
here
and
I
see
you
guys
working
on
the
ground.
I
know
what
you
do
and
how
far
you
go
for
the
people
in
our
community,
and
so
I
think
you
want
to
start
off
by
saying
thank
you
so
much
for
for
everything
you
do
on
a
day
to
day
for
our
families
in
chelsea,
full
disclosure.
L
So
I
I
have
a
few
questions
regarding
the
number
of
navigators
and
the
number
of
cases
per
navigators
and
and
as
as
many
of
my
colleagues
mentioned,
you
know
exiting
this
pandemic
and
and
covid.
How
has
the
need
increased
and
what's
capacity
look
like
and
is?
Is
the
funding?
Is
the
funding
sufficient
right
with
all
the
mental
health
needs
that
are
happening
currently
in
our
community.
H
Myself,
personally,
I
I
think,
and
it's
not
to
toot
any
horns
or
whatever
yeah
it's
it's
a
little
crazier
out
there
than
than
it
was
before.
Actually
it's
really
so
I've
seen
I've
seen
the
waves
coming
in
and
out
of
here
over
the
last
15
years,
this
guy's,
like
five
people,
I'm
telling
you
I've,
never
had
it
before
ever
ever
ever
in
my
life.
So
it's
like
you
know
we're
doing
our
thing.
You
know
what
I
mean
and
I
yeah
you
want
to
throw
a
couple
extra
bucks
on
my
wall.
H
That's
fine,
but
I
think
right
now
that
that
we
we're
good.
You
know
we're
good.
We
we
all
know
how
to
use
the
the
tools
that
are
given
to
us
in
in
in
the
city
like
we're
both
members
of
the
hub
we're
both
members
of
the
task
force.
You
know
the
non-profits
that
we
that
we
know
that
we
can
go
to
and
rely
on.
We
definitely
use
them
and
they
can
use
us.
So
all
that
together,
it's
like
the
team
is
unshakable.
H
It
really
is
so
you
know
we're
psyched
and
we're
not
saying
that
tragedy's
not
going
to
happen.
We're
not
going
to
lose
people
to
drug
addiction
and
alcoholism,
because,
unfortunately,
that
disease
is
stronger
than
everybody
in
this
room,
but
we're
going
to
fight
it
still.
You
know
what
I
mean
in
the
team
that
I
have
behind
me
and
the
supervision
that
I
have
like
the
supervisor
that
I
have
we're
good
to
go.
You
know
thank.
L
I
I
I
F
I
F
Have
three
spanish
speaking
recovery
coaches
on
staff,
so
they
can
also
help.
One
of
them
was
a
former
navigator,
so
they
know
that
if
they
need
assistance,
they
can
also
utilize
him.
He
spends
a
lot
of
time
in
chelsea
and
he
still
runs
like
a
psycho
ed
group
for
chelsea
residents
at
10
o'clock
on
wednesday's
mornings
at
301
broadway.
So,
okay,.
L
Thank
you
and
then
my
last
question
is
really
targeting
the
crisis.
In
my
opinion,
by
the
roots
right
and
and
how
are
you
guys,
collaborating
with
chelsea
police
department,
so
whatever
influx
of
drugs
or
whatever
sources
of
drugs
are
our
loved
ones
or
community
members
getting
their
hands
on
is
not
being
sold
in
our
community?
It's
not
being
you
know,
there's
not
high
volumes
of
the
trafficking
in
our
community.
Is
there
some
type
of
funding
that
goes
towards
that.
H
So
that
that's
a
that's
a
tight
wire,
that
is
very
that
we
walk
on
a
daily
basis
because
us
being
on
the
street
all
day
long
all
week
long
all
year
long,
you
know
we
see
what
we
see,
I'm
not
going
to.
Let
anyone
harm
anybody
in
this
community
if,
if,
but
as
far
as
we
there
is
that
there
is
a
certain
level
of
trust
that
we
need
to
build
with
our
clients
that
are
out
there
that
are
suffering
from
addiction
and
drug
and
alcoholism.
H
But
when
I
worked
at
a
previous
organization
for
13
years,
I
worked
alongside
12
different
police
departments
and,
and
there
were
some
hairy
situations
where
phone
calls
had
to
be
made
and
there
were
30
year
old,
gang
members
that
were
affecting
you
know:
15
or
20
15
year
old,
gang
members.
So
the
math
was
easy,
get
rid
of
him
work
with
the
15
year
olds.
You
know
what
I
mean.
It
is
what
it
is,
I'm
still
here
still
breathing
and
those
kids
are
doing
really
well
today.
So
is.
H
Case
by
case
I
I
really
you
know,
like
I
said
it's,
it's
a
it's
a
tight
wire.
It
really
really
is.
I
have
no
love
for
anyone.
That's
out
there
profiting
off
killing
people.
I
really
really
don't
I'm
in
recovery.
I
got
a
dead
father
from
this
stuff.
I
got
a
brother
suffering
right
now
and
I've
buried
dozens
and
dozens
of
friends
from
my
neighborhood
so
yeah.
I
I
have
a
healthy
to
stain
for
individuals
that
do
that
for
a
living.
B
But
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
like
get
five
times
or,
like
you
know?
How
do
we
replicate?
We
need
more
navigators,
and
ideally
you
know
we
should
have.
I
I
feel
like
that's
a
gap
and
we
don't
have
a
spanish
someone
like
a
ballet
navigator
in
the
community
of
chelsea,
where
primarily
so
I
mean,
how
do
we.
G
F
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
always
always
more
for
future
conversations
and-
and
I
do
think
there
definitely
is
a
need
for
a
spanish-speaking
navigator.
We
have
had
spanish-speaking
navigators
in
the
past.
Unfortunately,
it's
kind
of
it's
difficult
to
come
by
when
you're.
Looking
for
somebody.
That's
in
recovery,
there's
a
certain
like
job
description
that
goes
along
with
it.
G
F
M
H
If,
if
there's
a
call-
and
we
have
to
go
out-
I
I
will
go
out-
we
were
hoping
in
the
summertime
we
were
going
to
flex
shifts
it's
in
conversation
with
katie
myself
and
tim,
where
we
might
have
to
be
out
past
midnight
a
few
of
these
nights
coming
up.
So
it's
something
that
you
know
we're
we're
open
to.
You
know
I
I
do
have
a
job
on
friday
and
saturday
nights,
but
this
is
my
priority
and
I'm
already
awake.
So
I'm
kind
of
accustomed
to
it,
but
yeah.
N
N
But
if
there's
anything
that
you
guys
think,
especially
with
prevention
with
our
youth,
if
we
can
get
you
guys
into
the
high
schools
into
our
schools
more
often,
I
would
really
like
to
see
that
just
you
know
and
and
bring
those
who
are
struggling
and
who
are
willing
to
talk.
Obviously,
but
I
would
love
to
see
that,
but
thank
you
truly.
A
Counselor
garcia
brings
up
something,
and
I
know
it's
been
talked
before.
Is
there
any
times
that
either
you
jason
or
anyone
in
the
past
from
the
navigator
program,
has
gone
into
the
schools
to
talk
to
students?
I
remember
as
a
kid
you
know
we
used
to
have
police
officers
come
in
and
talk
about
the
danger
of
the
drug
and
they
bring
out
the
whole
suitcase
of
you
know
the
dare.
A
But
it's
just
again:
I
mean,
with
the
experience
that
you
have
of
you,
know
having
you
know,
being
a
former
drug
user
alcoholic
and
also
seeing
what
you
know.
What
actually
happens
to
individuals
and
stories.
Is
there
their
measures
of
saying,
wait,
we
got
a
red
flag
and
when
the
kids
are
starting
earlier,
you
know
can,
can
you
get
to
them
earlier?
Do
you
work
with
the
schools
at
all?
Is
that
something
that
has
been
already
in
place
that
I'm
not
aware
of
or.
H
As
far
as
the
schools
go,
I
I
know
in
the
past,
navigators
have
gone
and
speak.
I
in
my
previous
job
used
to
go
in
with
the
youth
academy.
I
I
did
that
a
few
times
during
the
year,
and
but
I
worked
closely
with
the
schools.
We
were
out
there
every
day
back
in
the
day,
but
I
I
would
be
we
don't
get
a
lot.
H
From
them
I
wish
we
did,
I
know,
there's
some
privacy
stuff
there
not
hip
hop.
The
school
is
ferpa,
maybe
that's
their
whatever,
but
yeah
they're
they're
yeah
their
confidentiality
thing,
but
100.
Anybody
who
calls
in
the
city
anyone
if
they
call
we
come
you
know,
so
we
would
be
more
than
open
to
help,
especially
if
there's
a
kid.
That's
troubled,
that's
using
something
that
can
actually
end
his
life.
You
know
as
far
as
narcotics
go.
C
F
A
A
follow-up
question
on
this
earlier:
you
said
about
the
dearth
of
beds
and
so
forth.
What
is
what
is
what
do
beds
look
like
for
under
18.,
if
you're
under
18?
What
is
that
program
because
you
can't
put
them
in
the
same
place
as
you
do
adults?
So
what
is
the
if
you're,
a
parent-
and
you
have
this
issue
with
a
child
who's
going
through
drug
abuse,
and
you
want
to
get
them
clean?
What
does
that
parent
look?
Look
like
trying
to
get
help?
What
does
the
bed
situation
look
like.
F
F
F
F
I
I
would
say
more
beds
for
the
underinsured
and
undocumented,
so
we
had
this.
Last
week
we
had
four
people
that
were
undocumented,
that
they
wanted
to
go
to
detox
every
day
they
wanted
to
detox.
We
had
to
pick
them
up
like
one
by
one
like
one
would
go
monday
and
then
no
more
beds,
so
the
other
three
would
have
to
stay
out.
Then
one
would
go
tuesday,
the
other
two.
I
I
was
begging
the
lady
on
the
phone
thursday,
like
literally
begging
her
and
then
finally,
let
her
in
and
that's
one
two
would
be
the
kind
of
building
off
that
the
the
more
residential
for
them
too.
If
they
have
mass
health
limited,
you
know
they
do
a
seven
day,
detox
and
they're
back
on
the
street.
F
F
B
F
Only
one
in
the
state
for
spanish
speaking,
yes,
I
know
that
north
suffolk
just
started
like
two
psycho
ed
groups
during
the
day,
with
the
hopes
of
expanding
to
an
iop,
which
would
just
be
some
kind
of
day
treatment
psycho-education
like
if
you
had
a
safe
place
to
stay.
So
if
someone
was
in
sober
housing,
they
would
be
able
to
go
there
and
receive
treatment
during
the
day,
but
there's
no
other
residentials
other
than
casa
esperanza.
I
would
say
my
third
priority
would
be
to
take
the
section
35s
out
of
the
doc.
F
That
really
has
nothing
to
do
with
chelsea
in
general,
but
you
do
we
do
section
35
a
lot
of
alcoholic
hispanic
males
and
treating
them
like
they're
criminals
when
they
have
a
disease
is
really
unfortunate.
It's
kind
of
degrading
like
why
would
you
put
somebody
in
shackles
in
handcuffs
if
they
didn't
commit
a
crime?
H
H
It's
an
amazing
program.
It
works.
I
don't
think
a
lot
of
people
you're
not
supposed
to
know
it's
anonymous,
they're
not
going
to
take
if
you
go
to
try
to
give
them
money,
they're
supported
by
their
own
contributions,
which
is
the
way
it
should
be,
but
I
don't
know
find
some
way
to
maybe
offer
a
space
that
if
they
wanted
to
open
up,
maybe
a
bigger
meeting
or
a
bigger
space,
a
bigger
space.
H
A
Jason,
a
few
years
ago,
we
looked
at
the
numbers
and
what
drove
me
to
try
to
start
the
whole
nip
band
was
because
I
was
looking
at
the
responses,
the
pickups
from
the
police
department,
the
fire
department,
the
ambulances,
and
I
asked
on
a
number
basis.
How
many
times
did
you
respond
to
a
heroin
overdose
and
they
said
I
was
70
and
I
looked
and
I
said
well
what
about
these
other
750
calls
it's
like.
A
F
It's
alcohol-based
and
I
can
just
say
from
the
data
that
we
collect
in
the
city
of
chelsea
and
also
the
data
we
collect
with
the
coaches
at
wooden
hospital.
It's
probably
about
85
15.,
so
85
referrals
for
alcohol
versus
15
with
straight
opiate.
Obviously
some
of
the
alcohol
has
poly
substance
use.
So
it's
not
just.
O
M
J
J
You
know
with
alcohol,
drug
mental
illness.
People
don't
like
to
promote
that
people
are
not
going
to
say.
I
need
help
with
my
family
members
with
this
here,
and
my
statement
is
that
I
believe
it's
imperative
that
you
take
the
lead
on
this
and
introduce
yourself
to
the
school
committee
members
and
also
make
yourself
available
if
you
can
come
in
here
once
or
twice
a
year
and
give
your
testimony
and
talk
about
what
you're
doing
and
what?
Because,
when
someone
hears
you
like
we're
hearing
you
now
with-
and
this
is
great-
this
is
encouraging.
J
When
they
hear
some
of
the
language
and
some
of
the
conversation,
what
we're
out
there
trying
to
prevent
it,
gives
them
a
little
hope
and
that
encouraged
that
I
can
approach
someone,
but
if
they
have
to
wait
for
their
mother
or
their
brother
or
someone
to
walk
to
you
to
walk
them
to
you
that
usually
comes
too
late.
I
know
incidents
where
folks
have
literally
because
of
mental
illness.
They
have
hidden
it
so
long
that
it
destroyed
the
whole
family,
yeah.
H
A
Going
to
allow
councillor
davis
the
last
question,
I
know
we
have
four
more
groups
and
I
want
to
try
to
keep
everyone
to
a
half
hour.
I
just
know
the
importance
of
this
issue,
so
I
allowed
a
little
bit
of
going
over
the
half-hour
limit
that
I
have
intended,
but
dejesus
will
have
the
last
question
of
the
night.
Thank.
L
You
president,
so
my
question:
I
have
two
brief
questions.
One
is
for
for
narcane
right
like
if,
if,
if
there's
a
user
at
1,
am
2
am
3,
am
they
don't
have
a
phone
to
call?
Anyone?
Are
there
stations
or
spots
in
the
community
like
24-hour
7-elevens
or
anything
where
they
can
go
and
be
handed
an
arcane
and
be
able
to
save
a
life?
No.
H
Unfortunately,
no
it
isn't
like
a
box,
you
can
run
up
and
ring
the
bell
and
get
help
we
do
pass
out
now.
Can
we
the
agency
we
work
for
make
sure
that
we
have
plenty
of
it,
and
you
know
we
use
plenty
of
it.
Unfortunately,
but
you
know
police
and
fire
definitely
do
have
it.
They
all
have
it,
but
there's
no
there's
no
actual
places,
but
is.
L
G
F
L
F
A
A
P
Who
is
the
assistant
director
of
the
women's
program
over
at
chelsea
and
scott
schaffenberg
who's,
the
executive
vice
president
of
the
new
england
area?
Thank
you
very
much
for
having
us
here
this
evening.
We
appreciate
the
time
what
we
do
and
what
we
have
here
with
roca
with
the
city
of
chelsea.
We
have
a
transitional
employment
contract
with
the
city
of
chelsea
that
we
have
young
people
from
the
community
to
go
out
and
provide
services
alongside
the
department
of
public
services.
P
That
goes
out
four
days
a
week,
monday,
tuesday,
thursday
and
friday
6.5
hours
a
day
for
the
six
and
a
half
years
that
I've
been
with
roca.
That
contract
has
been
in
effect,
and
I
believe
that
the
funds
have
not
changed
at
all.
During
that
time
period
we
provided
a
service
directed
through
the
department
of
public
services.
Fidel
was
the
gentleman
that
I
was
dealing
with
directly
now
I
deal
with
loop
was
taken
over
and
we
have
provided
that
service
now
and
we
go
out
on
a
daily
basis.
P
We
haven't
skipped
a
beat
during
the
whole,
be
endemic.
We
haven't
shut
down.
We
were
fortunate
enough
that
during
the
pandemic,
we
got
a
call
from
tuam
to
provide
some
services
to
the
city,
making
some
food
boxes
down
by
the
salt
pit,
and
we
did
that
and
along
continuing
that
we
were
able
to
bring
our
contract
back
into
fruition
and
we
haven't
stopped,
moved
or
changed.
Anything
we've
been
in
full
operation
now
and
have
not.
Our
building
is
open.
P
A
hundred
as
of
july
of
last
year
we're
at
full
complement
with
staff
our
young
people
are
coming
in.
We
are
planning
on
having
a
graduation
with
our
young
people
in
june,
which
will
invite
the
entire
city
council
in
the
city
of
chelsea.
The
last
time
we
met,
we
met
remotely.
We
were
on
a
video
and
I
wanted
to
have
everybody
come
over
in
the
summer,
but
unfortunately
we
could
not
do
that,
but
we
should
be
able
to
do
that
this
summer
and
we
are
looking
forward
to
that
other
than
that.
A
P
I
can
I
probably
have
that
off
the
top
of
my
head.
Absolutely
it's
150
000,
it's
a
subsidized
contract
that
we
give
to
the
city
or
the
city
has
afforded
us
to
have
that
gives
you
the
city,
one
crew
supervisor
and
five
young
people
four
days
a
week,
6.5
hours
a
day
for
the
term
of
the
contract,
which
is
one
year.
P
On
a
daily
basis,
naturally,
everybody
knows
that
the
young
people
that
we
deal
with
the
high-risk
youth
and-
and
we
do
have
some
problems
having
our
young
people
come
in,
because
we
coach
model
and
train
our
young
people.
That's
what
we
use
this
program
for
it's
an
educational
program,
but
I
can
say
the
past
month
we've
been
pretty
consistent
with
four
to
five
young
men
every
day.
L
P
P
P
Do
intervention
we
do
a
lot
of
prevention
work
in
the
high
school,
where
we
have
a
youth
worker,
that's
assigned
to
the
high
school
five
days
a
week
that
goes
in
and
has
a
caseload
that
works
with
young
people.
Not
only
is
that
youth
worker
carrier
caseload,
I
believe,
has
29
young
people
on
his
caseload
now,
but
he
also
has
internally
probably
another
25
to
30
young
people
inside
the
high
school
on
a
preventative.
L
P
I
could
I
could
do
that
very
well.
We
have
re-entered
re-entry
coordinators
that
are
assigned
to
the
houses
of
correction,
essex,
suffolk
and
middlesex
county,
so
we're
able
to
reach
any
of
the
young
people
who
may
come
out
of
the
city
of
chelsea
or
may
be
planning
on
coming
to
the
city
of
chelsea.
Not
only
are
we
working
with
them
internally
we're
preparing
them
to
come
out
and
come
on
to
caseload
with
roka,
so
we
have
three
of
them
right
now.
P
We're
going
to
hire
a
fourth
one
out
of
the
city
of
boston,
so
we'll
have
coverage
they
will
go
in
and
they
will
identify
young
people
who
will
be
in
chelsea
work
with
them.
Work
on
transformational,
relationship,
cognitive,
behavior
theory
and
restorative
justice
circles.
Internally
develop
a
relationship
with
that
young
person
establish
the
relationship,
and
then
we
have
a
lot
of.
We
probably
have
95
percent
of
our
youth
workers
that
have
been
cleared
to
go
into
the
prison.
P
So
we
know
when
we
know
that
that
young
person
is
going
to
come
out
and
whose
caseload
they're
going
to
go
on
to
we
bring
that
staff
person
inside
the
prison.
So
there
is
a
relationship
building
there.
So
when
that
person
comes
out
of
prison,
we
want
to
be
at
the
front
door
to
pick
them
up
and
bring
them
over
to
roca,
and
you
know
give
them
something
to
eat,
maybe
buy
them
some
clothes
and
get
them
on
caseload.
P
A
So,
rochelle,
just
so
to
give
you
a
recap
of
what
how
we're
going
forward.
We
have
two
contracts
in
front
of
us
for
capec
through
the
city
of
chelsea,
one
for
135
thousand
dollars.
Emergency
housing
and
general
hubs
case
support
the
other
one
is
for
ninety
thousand
dollars
case
management
for
substance
use
disorder.
A
R
R
Is
that
microphone
close
enough
for
your
glass,
because
you
can
can
you
you
can
start
gladys?
So
gladys
is
going
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
basically
about
the
substance.
Abuse
substance
use
disorder
program
that
we
run
at
catholic
she's,
been
involved
with
the
program
for
the
last
seven
years,
she's
phenomenal
she's
out
in
the
street
she's
working.
R
She
has
two
part-time
workers
with
her
on
that
program
and
the
work
that
she
do
that
she's
currently
doing
in
that
program
is
is
definitely
phenomenal.
Work
that
she
is
doing
in
that
program
she's
very
dedicated.
She
is
my
program
director
and
I'm
just
going
to
let
her
her
go
ahead
and
give
you
some
insight
as
to
what.
A
R
A
Q
Working
in
this
program
since
the
inception
of
the
of
the
program,
it's
been
about
six
and
a
half
years,
and
I
started
as
a
caseworker
there,
and
then
I
was
made
program
director
and
we
started
working
alongside
the
navigators
which
you've
already
met
and
it's
the
aim
of
the
program
is
to
connect
individuals
to
services.
What
we
do
in
our
program
is
we
provide
wrap-around
services,
which
is
once
they
come
from
detox
and
clinical
stabilization
programs.
Q
We
wrap
around
them
with
sober
living,
we
provide
transportation,
we
also
put
them
in
a
stipend
program
to
help
them
get
back
on
their
feet.
We
give
them
clothing
toiletries
and
then
we
case
try
to
case
manage
them,
and
we
basically
once
a
week,
we
touch
space
with
them
in
the
sober
houses
to
make
sure
that
they're
doing
what
they
need
to
do
to
work
on
their
recovery.
Q
As
we
all
know,
recovery
just
doesn't
happen
overnight.
It's
a
lifelong,
you
know
battle
some
do
well
for
a
while,
but
then
they
relapse
some
relapse
right
away.
They
come
from
detox,
we
put
them
in
a
house,
we
work
with
them
and
then
like
a
week
or
two
later
they're
back
on
the
street.
So
we
have
to
start
all
over
once
they.
You
know
they
work
with
the
navigators
and
they're
sent
to
us,
either
by
the
navigators
by
the
depart
police
department
or
the
hub.
Q
So
our
program,
as
as
the
brochure
says
we
it's
identify
and
access
the
client
needs,
send
them
to
detox
for
the
treatment
then
try
to
work
with
them
in
residential
or
halfway
houses.
It
doesn't
always
work
that
way
because
sometimes
they're,
you
know,
there's
not
enough
of
these
places
for
them
to
go
so,
instead
of
them
coming
back
out
on
the
streets.
What
we
do
is
we
place
them
in
sober
houses.
Q
I
work
with
many
sober
houses,
a
lot
of
them
in
chelsea,
the
the
the
powers
brothers,
the
chelsea
houses
also
work
with
other
houses
in
lynn
in
revere
and
east
boston,
and
that's
where
the
sobel
living
comes
into
place.
We
try
to
get
them
connected
to
employment
agencies
as
well
to
get
them
back
on
their
feet.
Q
We
give
them
a
month
to
try
to
settle
in
because
trying
to
push
them
all
at
once.
It
just
doesn't
really
help
them,
and
then
we
provide
other
services,
like
you
know,
referrals
to
like
if
they
need
birth
certificates,
social
security
cards,
because
when
they're
out
on
the
streets
running
there,
they
lose
everything.
So
we
try
to
get
connected.
I
have
a
good
working
relationship
now
with
boston
city
hall.
They
have
a
program
and
so
I've
connected
with
them
and
sometimes
they're
able
to
help
us
get
these
services
for
these
individuals.
Q
Q
It's
a
lot
of
work
because
we're
literally
sometimes
chasing
these
individuals
to
try
to
you
know
get
them
to
stay
in
these
programs.
We
can't
force
them
because
it's
up
to
them,
but
we
try
to
work
with
them.
Yeah.
I
literally
just
got
back
from
vacation
this
morning,
got
off
a
plane
and
the
first
thing
I
had
was-
and
even
while
I
was
away,
I
got
phone
calls
because
the
individuals
were
either
testing
positive
for
one
substance
or
another.
Q
Another
one
dropped
their
belongings
off
at
the
sober
house
and
off
and
running
they
went
so
now.
I
had
to
come
and
track
these
individuals
down
it's
exhausting,
but
we
try
to
provide
as
services
as
best
as
we
can.
I
also
help
manage
the
cella
luz
de
cristo
church,
where
individuals
go
and
get
breakfast
lunch
and
also
bathe,
they're
able
to
bathe
monday,
wednesdays
and
fridays.
Q
They
provided
a
hot
lunch.
We
give
them
clothing,
have
them
take
showers
if
they're
on
the
streets,
and
we
try
to
make
sure
that
there
is
no
activities
as
best
as
we
can
that
there's
no
activities
going
on
outside,
because
louis
de
cristo
is
centered
right
in
a
residential
area
and
at
the
beginning
of
that
program
it's
there
was
a
lot
of
complaints
to
the
chief
of
police
and
to
tom.
In
regards
to
you,
know,
individuals
hanging
out
on
the
stairs
and
stuff.
So
we
try.
You
know
I
try
to
do
the
best.
Q
R
And
I
can
just
give
you
some
numbers
of
the
the
clients
that
were
served
through
her
program.
This
is
this
is
starting
one.
One.
Twenty
two
today
interact
with
three
380s
at
risk:
individuals,
males
and
females
increase
new
faces
in
chelsea
and
increase
in
alcohol
and
related
homelessness
on
the
streets
due
to
the
pandemic.
As
we
know,
part
of
the
impacts
from
covid
are
ongoing.
We're
seeing
higher
numbers
of
substance
of
individuals
that
are
dealing
with
substance,
use
disorders,
we're
seeing
higher
numbers
of
individuals
that
are
homeless.
R
R
Many
individuals
referred
multiple
times
so
that
accounts
that
79
also
accounts
for
individuals
that
have
been
referred
more
than
one
time,
47
individuals
were
placed
into
silver
houses
with
catholic,
covering
rental
payments.
Over
250
200
food
gift
cards
have
been
distributed
to
street
involved.
Individuals
distributed
clothes
to
48
street
involved
individuals
via
by
donations
that
were
given
to
capec
we've
distributed
toiletries
and
basic
necessities
to
100
street
involved
individuals,
also
via
donations
from
catholic.
R
The
program
is
understaffed.
We
have
one
program
director.
We
have
a
a
person
that
volunteers
who
works
five
hours
a
week
and
we
have
another
person
in
that
program
who
works
15
hours
a
week.
So
the
bulk
of
the
responsibility
for
this
program
is
on
gladys's
shoulder.
She
does
an
amazing
job,
making
sure
that
these
services
are
provided
the
work
that
we're
doing
over
the
se
law
center.
We
are
keeping
that
center
intact.
R
We
are
making
sure
that
we're
distributing
food
in
that
center
a
couple
of
days
a
week
and
making
sure
that
the
individuals
are
acting
accordingly
and
peacefully
and
accepting
the
contributions
that
we're
giving
them
spending
bringing
coming
in
taking
their
showers
and
and
moving
on
their
way
prior
to
gladys,
getting
involved
with
that
st
law
center.
There
are
a
lot
of
individuals
that
would
just
enter
the
center
and
crawl
into
the
beds
or
find
a
place
to
sleep,
and
that
is
not
the
type
of
behavior
that
we
want
for
these.
R
These
individuals
we
do
want
to
assist
them,
offer
them
services,
offer
them
detox
services
and
and
continue
to
support
them
as
they
go
along
the
way,
but
for
them
to
just
sit
and
and
do
nothing
all
day.
We
did
not
encourage
that
type
of
behavior
capex
suds
mobile
outreach
team
continues
to
provide
management
and
and
re-support
to
the
sales
center.
R
Since
the
start
of
the
pandemic,
the
suds
mobile
outreach
team
had
shift
support
at
the
sales.
I
just
spoke
about
that
that
we've
shifted
the
support
that
we
provided
at
the
sailor
center.
The
sun
studs.
The
staff
also
provide
support
outside
the
sailor
center,
where
this
wow
this
the
senior
center.
R
Q
So
this
is
where
a
good
bulk
of
the
money
goes
the
cab.
Now
the
cab
fares
have
gone
up
because
the
prices
of
of
gas-
so
you
know
we
make
do
we
also.
You
know
sometimes
find
ourselves
where
we
have
individuals
come
from
other
cities.
Trying
to
you
know,
get
into
programs
and
stuff.
I
redirect
them
to
the
cities
that
they
come
from,
because
this
is
strictly
chelsea
money.
Q
Q
We
don't
want
them
dying
on
here,
and
you
know
in
our
city,
but
as
far
as
the
wrap
around
services,
which
is
the
money
that
we're
provided
from
the
city
of
chelsea,
that
I
have
to
really
work
around
to
make
sure
that
the
individuals
are
from
the
city,
individuals
that
we've
seen
that
we've
worked
with
and
then,
like.
I
said
we
redirect
to
other
cities
and
towns
where
they're
coming
from,
because
we've
seen
a
lot
of
new
faces
come
into
the
city,
because
we
provide
a
service
that
a
lot
of
other
cities.
Don't.
R
Yeah-
and
it
should
be
noticed
that
we,
in
partnership
with
the
city
of
chelsea,
do
provide
services
that
a
lot
of
cities.
Do
I
mean
we
are
actively
working
with
these
clients,
as
opposed
to
being
a
referral
service
to
you
know,
refer
them
outside
of
chelsea
or
refer
them
to
other
resources,
and
I
also
want
to
say
that
the
partnership
is.
A
A
Q
Q
Is
paying
a
bulk
of
it
is
paying
salaries
and
then
it's
sober
living
which
is
somewhere
in
the
vicinity
of
22
to
25
000,
the
salaries
and
french
fringe
benefits
transportation,
which
is
between
five
and
eight
thousand
dollars.
There's
the
food
vouchers
that
we
give
individuals
we
were
given
out,
like
you,
know,
25
gift
cards
once
upon
a
time
now
we
find
ourselves
giving
out
like
50,
because,
like
everything's
gone
up
and
you
give
someone
25,
they
can't
even
go
to
market
basket
to
to
get
much
and
then
there's
a
stipend
program.
Q
So
the
stipend
program
is
about
eight
thousand
dollars.
The
stipend
program
is
individuals
that
are
in
recovery
that
are
having
a
hard
time
getting
a
job
right
away.
So
we
have
them
come
work
with
us
at
the
church
and
help
clean
tables
have
served
lunches
manage
outside
clean
the
the
areas
maintain
the
bathrooms
check
in
on
the
bathrooms
as
well,
because
sometimes
we
have
individuals
who
want
to
go
in
there
and
do
their
thing.
So
that's
how
that
hundred
and
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
you
know
exact
amounts.
We
can
definitely
get
that
to
you.
A
A
Q
A
R
R
I
mean
most
recently,
we
just
had
a
a
woman
who
had
who
was
suffering
from
a
severe
mental
health
issue,
disorder
which
was
part
of
hoarding,
and
it
got
to
the
point
that
they
wanted
her
out
of
the
apartment
and
carrie.
The
the
director
of
that
program
spent
a
lot
of
time
getting
that
woman's
services
getting
her
out
of
the
apartment,
helping
her
they
they
were
able
to
go
into
the
apartment
and
clean
up,
and
it
was
not
nice,
it
was.
It
was
really
not
an
ideal
living
circumstances.
R
Carrie
was
a
little
sick,
but
she
did
the
work.
And
my
point
is
that
without
the
eyes
of
of
of
isd,
we
would
not
be
able
to
get
into
these
people
that
would
not
show
up
at
our
doors
and
offer
them
services.
So
I
mean
it
could
be.
You
know
another
time
that
she
spent
a
lot
of
time
getting
cleaning
up
a
a
yard
for
an
elderly
person
that
pretty
much
got
the
short
end
of
a
stick
from
a
contractor
and
he
just
dumped
everything
there.
So
she
was
the.
A
R
A
A
R
G
R
But
we
we
we
do
manage
to
get
the
work
done.
I
mean
nobody
has
a
caseload
of
of
less
than
I
don't
know,
four
or
five
clients
per
day.
It's
it's!
It's
very
demanding
but,
like
I
said
given
this,
given
the
staffing
situation
with
with
my
our
agency
itself,
we
are
stretched
pretty
thin,
but
she
does
get
get
most
of
the
case.
Casework
load
done
per
day.
A
Q
M
Q
Salvation
army
getting
them
clothing,
getting
them
food
mom,
seeing
if
they
have
you
know
what
they
need
to
go
forward
to
find
another
apartment.
So
it
could
be
one
person
that
she's
working
with
like
this
woman
with
the
hoarding
who
was
still
hospitalized,
but
I
was
aware
I
don't
know
she's
out
of
the
hospital,
but
she
did
a
lot
of
work
and
there
was
multiple
weeks
that
she
was
working
with
mike
in
them.
Q
On
that
case,
and
even
after,
while
she
was
still
in
the
hospital,
carrie
did
even
go
to
the
hospital
to
see
this
woman,
so
it
could
be
one
person
or
it
could
be
like
when
there
was
a
fire,
not
a
few
years
back
where
you
know,
multiple
families
were
burnt
out,
so
she
had
to
do
a
lot
of
work
with
them.
So
it
could
be
one.
It
could
be
ten
for
for
her
program
with
me.
It
depends
on
how
many
individuals
go
into
sober
houses.
Q
I
can't
case
manage
every
single
person,
that's
out
on
the
street
every
day,
because
you
know
I'd
be
chasing
them
every
single
day,
but
the
ones
that
do
go
into
the
sober
houses.
Those
are
the
ones
that
we
definitely
you
know
provide
case
management
with.
So
I
sometimes
like
this
past
couple
of
weeks.
I've
had
probably
eight
that
we're
doing
case
management
and
it's
a
lot
because
they
they
have
all
these
needs,
and
so
we
do.
We
get
stretched
to.
G
R
Yeah
and
then
just
just
another
point
that
all
clients
from
each
program,
whether
it's
through
the
isd
or
the
substance
use
disorder
programs
do
have
access
to
all
the
resources
that
we
offer
at
capex.
So
it's
it's
a
litany
of
of
of
resources
that
we
offer
and
it's
wrap
around
service
through
all
the
different
programs
that
we
offer
at
capex.
So
we're
not
just
servicing
them
for
one
individual
need
all
our
all.
Our
managers
work
closely
together
for
cross
referrals
to
make
sure
that
all
their
needs
are
covered
through
capex
programs.
K
I
think
that
we
we've
been
we've
been
seeing
kind
of
an
uptick
since
the
pandemic
of
of
of
problems,
whether
it's
addiction
related
or
mental
health
problems,
and
I
think
in
the
you
know,
within
chelsea
over
the
last
several
months.
We
wanted
to
have
a
broader
conversation
about
mental
health
needs,
and
I
asked
I
asked
the
previous
group:
what
is
it.
K
Q
Q
So
if
they
don't
have
that
support,
where
are
they
going
to
go
another
another
hurdle
that
we
have
that
I
bring
this
up
every
time
we
have
a
meeting
and
we're
trying
to
get
these
individuals.
We
have
a
lot
of
alcoholic
men,
they're
latinos,
but
they
only
get
mass
health.
Limited
mass
health
limited
allows
them
to
go
to
detox.
Q
Q
What
we
try
to
do
is
encourage
them
that,
while
they're
still
in
detox
to
call
us
from
there,
because
if
they
come
out
and
they
hit
the
street
they're
off
and
running,
but
if
they're
still
in
detox-
and
they
call
and
they're
going
to
be
discharged,
we
send
a
cab
for
them
or
one
of
the
navigators
picks
them
up.
We
used
to
pick
them
up
before
the
pandemic
and
we
bring
them
to
a
sober
house.
K
Yeah,
there's
a
there's,
a
there's
a
I
mean,
that's
a
big
proble,
that's
a
big
problem,
probably
above
our
pay
rate
here,
but
but
that
doesn't
mean
we
can't
try
to
work
to
work
on
it,
correct
for
our
for
our
area,
and
I
think
I
think
that
in
the
arpa
committee
we
talked
about
this
michelle.
You
were
there
and
and
and
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
funnel
some
of
those
funds
to
to
try
to
solve
some
of
these
problems
and.
Q
It's
it's!
It's
really
crazy
with
mass
health,
because
we
have
someone
who
has
mass
health
as
all
of
all
the
benefits
of
mass
health.
Okay,
they
were
born
here
they
have
whatever
they
get
to
go
to
recovery,
centers
of
america.
That's
like
50,
000,
okay,
so
they
get
to
use
all
those
benefits.
It's
like
going
to
a
spa
for
them.
Q
K
What
would
you,
what
would
you
say?
The
percentages
are
because
the
north
suffolk
people
also
mentioned
this
problem.
Like
you
know,
we
have
we,
we
have
these
guys
and
we're
trying
to
get
them
in,
but
there's
not
enough
room
and-
and
you
know
they
they
can
only
go
to
the
detox
and
and
that's
it,
and
so
I
mean
how
do
we?
How
do
we
addre?
How
do
we
we
address
this?
K
G
Q
K
K
K
Q
J
You
thank
you,
so
I
have
a
question
and
then
comfortable
dejesus
have
a
question:
we've
got
to
wrap
it
up
real
quickly,
we're
really
playing
with
time
so
gladys.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
I
earlier
said
a
few
things
and
roy
picked
up
on
some
of
the
breakdowns,
but
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
you
said
something
about
when
you
get
someone
it
takes
about
a
month
to
do
something.
Q
So
if
an
individual
come,
if,
if
I
get
a
call
from
one
of
the
detoxes-
and
they
say
we
have
this-
this
individual
is
from
chelsea
and
they
are
going
to
they
want
to
go
into
a
sober
house.
Well
then,
my
suggestion
is,
they
need
to
go.
You
know
seven
days
and
detox
is
not
enough.
They
need
to
go
to
further
treatment,
which
is
clinical
stabilization,
and
so
it's
a
css
like
they
call
it
for
another
two
weeks.
Okay,
so
we
tried
to
get
them
to
go
at
least
21
to
28
days.
Q
After
that
I
I'm
constantly
well
myself
or
my
staff
is
working
with
these
caseworkers,
where
they're
currently
at
when
they're
ready
for
release
a
week
prior,
I
get
a
call
they're
going
to
be
released
on
such
and
such
a
date.
Then
I
start
making
calls
to
sober
houses
to
see
if
they
have
beds
available.
I
can't
ask
a
sober
house
a
month
in
advance
to
hold
the
bed
because
they're
making
they're
going
to
lose
money,
and
I
can't
take
money
from
my
budget
to
pay
for
an
empty
bed
so
a
week
prior.
Q
I
call
them
like.
I
have
an
individual,
that's
going
to
be
being
released
from
treatment.
Do
you
have
do
you
think
you'll
have
a
bed
available,
they're
like
we
have
multiple
beds,
whatever
get
them
in
there
when
they're
discharged,
and
then
we
start
working
with
them
right
away,
I
don't
say:
go
get
a
job
right
away.
It's
like
you
need
to
go
into
iop,
which
is
on
the
through
north
suffolk
to
get
some
therapy.
Q
Q
J
Q
J
Okay,
okay,
so
you
go
through
this
program
and
they're
ready
to
go
out
and
the
last
thing
you
say:
okay,
we
want
you,
you
know
you
just
got
out
of
treatment,
we're
helping
you,
you
give
them
gift
cards
or
you
give
them
stipends.
Is
that
the
same
as
gift
cards?
Because
you
said
stipends
and
gift
cards?
No.
J
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
get
some
idea
what
took
place
in
that
routine
and
how
much
money
was
actually
being
spent
and
then
trying
to
calculate
how
much
money
you're
investing
in
these
folks
that
you're
coming
to
last
part
of
this
question.
How
do
you
come
in
contact
with
them?
Is
it
just
by
referrals.
Q
Q
Q
M
J
Q
Cover
each
other,
like
you
know,
while
I
was
away,
I
said
you
know,
I
only
have
you
know
the
other
part-timers.
If
you
guys
see,
can
you
help
us
out
in
the
same
way
they
need
vacation?
They
need,
you
know
just
self-care,
because
if
we
don't
sell,
you
know,
take
care
of
ourselves.
We
can't
take
care
of
them.
J
Q
R
And
we,
I
just
want
to
add
that
we
are
currently
looking
for
admin
staff
in
that
program,
because
they
do
the
the
people
that
were
working
in
that
program
and
now
spend
95
percent
of
their
time
outside.
So
I
mean
the
reporting
has
to
be
done
as
well,
so
we
are
looking
for
part-time
admin,
staff,
okay,.
L
R
N
G
Q
J
J
C
M
M
J
A
B
A
Start
restart
and
we
now
have
the
lecoro
veritiva
in
front
of
us
to
go
over
the
contract
which
they
receive
from
the
city,
190
000
for
the
summit,
jobs,
youth
program
and
we
have
the
executive
director
and
financial
officer
for
them
I'll.
Let
them
introduce
themselves-
and
please
explain
a
little
bit
about
the
summer-
drops
program,
how
many
individuals
it
works
with,
and
staffing
and
such
so.
S
My
name
is
claris
vega,
I'm
executive
director
of
collaborative
and
with
me
is
dini
paulinho
paulino,
the
chief
operating
officer
of
la
collaborativa
roy.
So
the
presentation
that
I
put
that
we
put
together
it
has
a
combination
of
some
of
the
programs
that
we're
doing
and
how
the
city
of
chelsea
has
helped.
So
should
I
run
it
through
real
quickly
or
we.
S
S
S
C
O
C
O
A
G
A
A
S
O
So,
just
to
give
you
guys
a
a
picture
right
now
we
are
conducting
interviews
to
hire
the
230
youth,
but
we
had
over
600
youth
applicants
on
waitlist,
so
that
is
only
for
the
summer.
Throughout
the
year
we
get
a
close
to
over
400
youth
that
want
to
work
year-round
and
we
only
are
able
to
employ
102
to
110
youth.
O
The
age
group-
yes,
we
have
a
different.
We
provide
different
job
skills
through
youth.
Some
youth,
for
example,
right
now,
are
part
of
the
carpentry
apprenticeship
program
that
they
are
a
little
bit
older
youth.
We
also
have
youth
that
are
working
on.
You
know
you
know
creating
their
own
business.
For
example,
they
what
some
of
the
youth
are
doing
a
stem
club
and.
S
O
S
And
because
la
collabarativa
changed
the
way
we
conduct
business,
we
don't
look
at
the
youth
as
an
individual.
We
look
at
the
youth
as
a
family
unit,
so
once
we
are
helping
the
youth
with
employment,
we
also
inquire
hey,
who
else
the
house
needs
a
job.
How
are
your
parents
doing
et
cetera,
and
then
we
put
them
in
different
programs
that
we
have
if
they
need
esl
classes?
We
immediately
connect
them
to
our
1
400
students
that
we
adult
students
that
we
have
so
the
whole
program
in
terms
of
the
youth
employment.
O
L
O
G
O
O
J
J
J
E
So,
historically,
all
the
money
the
city
put
in
was
for
the
summer
youth
program,
but
over
time,
as
more
and
more
money
became
available
for
summer
youth
programming
through
other
sources,
their
their
request
to
us
was.
Are
you
flexible?
All
we
care
about
is
youth
employment
if
it's
easier
for
them
to
utilize
our
money
for
year-round
youth
employment,
as
opposed
to
just
summer,
because
they
can
flex
other
money,
that's
dedicated
and
can't
be
used
for
anything
other
than
summer.
E
Our
money
is
flexible.
Our
position
is
we're
supporting
youth
employment.
We
don't,
I
don't
really
care
if
they're
employed
in
september
versus
july.
We
just
want
you
to
be
employed.
If
you're
telling
us
that
our
money
is,
you
have
money
enough
money
for
the
summer,
for
the
most
part,
you'll
need
some
of
our
money,
but
our
money
is
better
spent
in
the
fall
in
the
winter
and
the
spring
when
these
other
sources
of
revenue
don't
support
youth
employment
from
the
city's
perspective,
it's
fine.
E
It's
really
a
youth
employment,
so
the
the
norman
culture
of
summer
is
misleading
because,
as
the
years
have
gone
by
especially
the
last
couple
of
years,
our
money
has
gone
more
towards
the
year-round
youth
employment
program
than
directly
for
summer,
but
only
because
other
sources
of
income
have
come
in
that
provide
them
with
adequate
summer
job
programming,
but
not
sufficient
funding
for
a
year-round
youth
program.
From
my
perspective
for
sure
I
just
we're
just
supporting
youth
employment,
because
that's
our
goal
to
get
youth
employed
and
and
give
them
opportunity.
J
Okay,
so
now
I
just
want
to
fetch
that
so
now
I
understand
what
gladys
was
saying
when
she
says
she's
changing
it
around
so
you're,
changing
it
around.
So
under
my
understanding
now,
although
you're
going
to
hire
230
some
of
youth
programs,
but
that
funding
is
going
to
come
in
some
of
the
money
that
you
spoke
of,
but
with
the
190
we're
going
to
use
it
throughout
the
year,
correct,
okay,
correct
and
I'll
have
fun
with
that.
M
O
S
A
Well,
like
you
know,
a
parent
may
be
either
too
afraid
or
too
ashamed
to
ask
for
a
certain
type
of
help
assistance,
but
the
child
will
say
you
know
this
is
going
on
at
home
and
you
say
well,
look
we'll
try
to
help
out,
and
that
might
be
a
way
to
do
it.
So
it's
interesting
that
that
is
going
on.
I
was
not
aware
of
that.
S
When
we
prepared
this
presentation,
we
included
how
we're
conducting
business
the
new
way
of
conducting
business
a
la
collaborative,
because
what
we
are
experiencing
is
that
we
are
doing
wrap
around
services
and
we
want
to
be
that
organization
that
you
go
with
the
family
as
a
newcomer
was
a
regular
resident
of
chelsea
and
there's
one
stop
right
there
and
we
have
the
triage.
We
have
the
case
managers
and
once
again,
the
our
theory
of
change
is
three
things
survival.
So
we
help
you
immediately
on
that
emergency
need.
S
Then
we
do
the
sustainability
now
that
we
help
you
with
the
emergency.
How
do
you
sustain?
How
do
we
find
your
job?
How
do
you
do
the
esl
classes,
computer
classes?
How
do
you
become
a
citizen?
How
do
we
check
out
your
documentation
status,
to
figure
out
what
category
we
can
help
you
best
and
then
leadership
development
trainings
on
tenant,
organizing
workers,
rights
whatever
it
is,
but
that
empowerment
piece
that
also
so
helpful
in
order
for
you
to
be
civically
engaged
in
the
community?
P
S
To
them,
you
know
what
roy
almost
almost
most
of
the
programs
we
handle
them
inside
la
collaborativa
and
those
groups
come
to
us
so
even
because
sometimes
people
don't
know
the
city,
their
recent
arrivals,
etc.
So
sometimes
we
just
have
the
you
know,
det
doing
the
snap
program.
We
have
a
case
manager
that
does
that
we
have
the
district
attorney
person
doing
consumer
protection
issues
right
at
the
office.
We
have
that
we
have
48
members
of
our
staff.
J
Council
brown
yeah-
I
just
want
to
commend
you
for
the
creativity.
You
know
when
we
listen.
The
first
part
of
the
and
the
first
part
of
your
speech
in
enlightenment
was
that
oh,
the
summer,
youth
is
being
gone,
but
you
know
you
take
this
summer,
youth
out
and
you
don't
take
it
out,
but
what
you
do
you
take
this
summer
out
and
now
you
have
youth
employment.
J
So
I
think
it's
very
creative,
especially
where-
and
I
heard
you
say
something
about
cambridge.
If
they
say
we
have
some
extra
funding,
would
you
want?
It
makes
sense,
it
makes
dollars
and
it
makes
sense,
and
not
only
as
council
president
said
that
it
gives
us
an
investment
and
all
of
the
programs.
That's
come
before
us
tonight.
S
Calvin
thank
you
for
acknowledging
that.
But
in
addition
to
that,
we
like,
when
we
partner
with
our
non-profit,
we
also
look
for
funding
for
so,
for
example,
we
have
the
virtual
academy,
that's
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
we
got
and
we
share
the
money
with
the
school
department
for
a
virtual
academy.
So
those
are
projects
that
we
did
on
our
own
and
then
we
pair
up
with
the
city
of
chelsea,
with
one
of
the
departments
to
provide
essential
services
to
our
students
in
the
in
the
school
system.
J
Well,
I'm
glad
that
again
that
even
our
governor
of
this
commonwealth,
he
recognized
the
efforts
is
being
done
here
and
not
only
him
but
other.
I
work
at
the
state
house
and
others
they
talk
about.
Jesus
chelsea
lawrence
is
doing
what
chelsea's
done.
Springfield
is
doing
what
chelsea's
done
all
these
other
communities
and
they're
supporting
it.
So
I
believe
that
you
know
the
kids
are
benefiting.
J
K
K
Apprenticeship,
yeah,
can
you
can
you
just
explain,
I
think,
for
some
of
the
people
at
home
too
that
what
those
are
and
where
you
know
what
they
do
in
these
in
these
various
programs
and
and
how
you
place
people
in
them
or
like?
How
do
you
know
which
people
go
where
or
is
it
just
you
know
first
come
first
serve
or
what
so.
S
First
thought
I
would
love
to
invite
you
to
be
one
of
the
interviewers
we're
doing
interviews
right
now.
We
have
approximately
line
up
approximately
300
youth
in
order
for
us
to
have
230.
it's
amazing.
They
are
interviewing
application,
they
show
interest
and
then
we
try
to
pair
them
up.
So
in
the
interview
it's
in
their
job
and
they
they
say,
I
want
to
work
with
youth.
I
want
to
work
with
children.
I
want
to
work
in
the
science
I
want
to
work.
S
You
know
I
want
to
be
learn
about
the
trade,
the
building
trade,
so
we
have
a
partnership
with
the
carpenters
union
and
every
so
they
get
hours
of
classroom
at
la
collaborativa
during
the
week
and
saturdays
at
around
6
30
right.
They
there's
a
big
boss,
picking
them
up
and
they
take
the
30
youth
with
all
their
equipment.
Hammer.
O
O
They
actually
were
monitoring
the
air
quality
in
chelsea
as
an
example
and
they're
looking
at
redesigning
the
a
betting
and
square
to
make
it
more
family
friendly
in
collaboration
with
the
city
as
an
example
another.
You
know,
we
just
mentioned
the
business
program.
They
actually
helping
they're,
creating
those
their
own
business
plan,
they
design
their
logo
and
they
actually
market
their
products,
and
they
they
sell
the
produce
that
then,
in
terms,
go
back
to
a
youth
account
that
they
can
use
for
future
activities.
G
O
A
A
S
Let
me
just
answer
the
first,
the
first
part
of
the
question
so
approximately
in
the
past.
We
always
used
to
have
approximately
42
sites
and
we
placed
youth
all
over
the
city.
If
a
businessman
wanted
a
young
person
to
experience,
you
know
to
have
for
them
to
earn
their
experience
working
at
a
law
office,
we
will
pay
their
salary
or
ask
the
business.
S
Could
if
you,
if
you're
a
lawyer,
could
you
pay
half
of
the
salary
and
we'll
you
know
and
you'll
match
it
or
they
can
keep
them
year-round
if
they
fall
in
love
with
our
youth
and
they
get
in
in
love
with
their
skills
and
stuff,
and
usually
they
give
me
around
jobs,
that's
exactly
what
we
want
and
then
so
there's
42
sites.
What
happened
during
the
pandemic
is
that
nobody
wanted
to
hire
youth.
It
was
very
hard.
S
It
has
been
very
hard
for
us
to
expand
that
you
know
many
of
the
police
officers
that
we
have
at
the
chelsea
police
department
came
about
the
chelsea
summer,
youth
employment
program,
so
you
know
they
have
workplaces,
they
work
in
the
court
system.
I
have
two
young
people
that
are
still
there.
You
know
probably
12
years
after
working
at
the
court,
we're
real
full-time
job.
So
those
are
the
places
that
we,
it
could
be
a
business.
S
It
could
be
a
non-profit
catholic
used
to
get
approximately
20
youth
and
they
would
get
the
daycare
training
they
would
get
the
they
go
through.
A
daycare
training.
The
catholic
used
to
and
does
cappy
does,
the
training
on
child
care,
and
then
the
youth
are
placed
there
doing
whatever
the
training
they
got,
etc.
So
there's
different
work
sites
for
them
to
work
on,
but
it
has
been
very
once
again.
The
worksite
situation
is
a
little
bit
hotter,
just
because
covet
yeah.
O
O
The
goal
is
to
ensure
that
the
youth
have
a
better
opportunity
and
better
outcomes
in
their
lives
and
is,
although
we
have
double
the
amount
of
funding
thanks
to
the
collaborative
success,
it's
still
a
challenge.
You
know
like,
for
example,
right
now
in
the
summer
youth
employment
program,
we
have
over
600
applicants,
we
don't
have
the
money,
the
city
doesn't
have
the
money,
and
over
the
school
year
we
have
just
as
the
same
amount
of
young
individuals
that
want
to.
They
don't
want
to
go
work
in
mcdonald's.
O
They
want
to
work
in
a
place
that
will
value
them
respect
and
provide
them
with
soft
skills,
providing
them
with
the
mentorship
necessary
for
them
to
still
be
in
school,
to
support
their
families
and
to
aspire
for
them
to
either
go
to
a
vocational
school
to
a
two-year
four-year
college.
That's
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
that
is
success
for
us.
A
Can
I
follow
up
gladys
for
those
of
us
who
are
interested,
you
invited
todd
to
do
the
interviews
and
I've
done
in
the
past.
Can
you
give
us
the
dates
and
times
if
anyone
wants
to
stop
by
so
what
what
are
the
dates
and
times?
If
anyone
wants
a
volunteer
to
do
interviews
when
are
they
having
them,
and
when
could
someone
go
so.
S
S
A
questionnaire-
and
we
always
tell
the
I'm
sorry,
but
we
always
tell
sort
of
like
the
interviewers
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
themselves
so
that
young
person
can
connect
with
you,
but
also
if
you
have
a
business
or
whatever
or
your
city
council,
they
learn
about
what
you
do
so
that
they
can
aspire.
We
always
try
to
match
that,
because
we
also
want
the
interviewers
to
see
the
young
person
as
they
can
potentially
be
mentors.
That's
the
idea.
So
the
idea
is
that
we're
doing
transformative
change
with
our
young
people
in
the
community
all.
O
O
S
O
Q
K
So
I
can
tell
you
that
in
in
my
business
in
my
industry
there
are
there's
a
lack
of
workers,
so
so
so
workers
are
actually
a
pretty
hot
commodity,
because
you
know
in
the
hospitality
business
you
know,
there's
not
enough
people
to
to
really
make
everything
go
and
people
are
desperate
to
find
to
find
people.
So
you
know
I
I
don't
know
about
you
know
because
of
the
age
of
the
people.
They
can
only
work
so
many
hours
so
many
times.
K
You
know
I
mean
their
their
their
child
labor
laws,
but
but
some
of
these
kids
could
get
some
hospitality
training,
whether
you
know
it's
working
in
a
kitchen
or
you
know,
working
in
a
laundry
or
something
like
that.
You
know
in
a
hotel
or
or
whatever
it
is.
You
know
I
know
you
to
be
a
server
a
bartender.
You
have
to
be
18.,
but
but
there's
there's
a
lot
of
these
jobs
out
there
that
that
that
need
to
get
filled.
So
you
know
fyi,
I
mean
I
don't
know.
A
Only
problem
was
that
I
found
is
a
lot
of
these
entities
and
I
speak
for
someone
myself.
I
get
excited.
Oh,
you
have
a
kid
he's
willing
to
work
great
and
then
you
turn
around
it's
like
oh
he's
only
going
to
be
here
six
weeks.
Do
I
really
want
to
spend
the
time
training
somebody
getting
them
ready
and
just
it's
always
the
the
thing
that
they
run
up
against
is
when
you
tell
an
employer
that
they're
only
going
to
have
that
individual
for
six
weeks.
That's
when
they
say
wait
a
minute,
I'm
not
interested
so.
K
So,
just
just
to
be
clear
too,
like
for
for
my
for
my
own
business,
I
used
to
work
with
with
with
irish
kids
and
on
j-1
visas
that
would
come
over
and
and
would
would
work
and
during
the
summer
there'd
be
lots
of
conventions
at
the
bcec
or
the
heinz
or
whatever,
and
we
always
needed
extra
people.
I
mean
you
know
we
have.
We
have
lots
of
different
people
from
all
over
the
world,
but
I
mean
and
they
tightened
up
the
rules
on
j1.
K
O
Yes,
you
know
so
just
to
clarify,
but
maybe
obviously
this
is
not
part
of
the
presentation,
but
we
are
tied
to
comcore
mass
higher
dollars
to
be
able
to
run
the
summer
youth
employment
in
the
year-round
program.
They
have
a
very
strict
guidance
on
what
type
of
experience
the
youth
need
to
we
need
to
provide
and
they
will
review
all
their
jobs
yeah.
So
no
but
yeah,
but
I
just
you
know.
O
S
Approximately
1
100
students
that
are
doing
virtual
esl
in
different
levels,
plus
at
the
williams
school.
We
have
650
plus
students
that
are
adults.
So
if
you
need
employment,
we
all
connected
with
philip
who's,
the
director
of
the
the
workforce
development
department
and
they
can
so
like
set
up
a
time.
You
can
do
a
presentation
and
you
will
have
a
huge
audience
of
people
that
are
looking
for
a
job,
so
you
can
we're
we're
doing
it
another
fair.
So
we
can
invite
you
and
you
can
totally
do
recruiting
there.
Yeah.
K
You
know-
maybe
not
so
much
for
my
company,
but
but
for
I
work
with
a
lot
of
companies
out
there
that
are
looking
for
different,
I'm
just
I'm
I'm
trying
to
let
you
know,
there's
a
lot
there.
There
are
lots
of
jobs
out
there
that
people
are
not
necessarily
running
running
to
you
know
for
whatever
reason,
but
it
they
there
is
employment,
for
you
know
for
young
people
out
there.
So,
but
anyway,
I
appreciate
what
you
do.
Thank
you
very
much.