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From YouTube: Charter Review Meeting of 9-16-20
Description
City of Chelsea
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Chelsea Community TV
A
Hi
everyone
good
afternoon,
it's
six
o'clock.
This
is
a
city
charter.
We
are
live
now.
This
is
the
charter
review
committee,
so
we
are
happy
to
welcome
everyone.
We
have
some
folks
joining
us
today
here,
so
we
also
have
some
folks
joining
us
virtually.
So
I
will
go
ahead
and
have
roll
call.
I
don't
have
my
real
call
sheet
in
front
of
me,
but
we'll
go
with
with.
A
Can
you
grab
me
my
roll
call?
Thank
you.
I
hope
everyone
had
a
great
two
weeks.
Everyone
voted.
It
seems
like
it's
been
a
very
high
spirited
season.
A
A
A
The
purpose
of
this
city
charter
review
committee
is
specifically
to
review
the
city
charter,
which
is
the
most
important
legal
document
of
our
city,
and
what
we
do
is
we.
Every
week
we
read
a
different
section
as
of
today
we're
in
section
seven
and
we
have
a
productive
discussion
on
it.
Any
member
of
this
group
and
this
committee
can
submit
suggestions
of
changes
they
wish
to
see
applied
in
writing
a
week
prior
to
our
meeting.
A
A
E
Thank
you.
I'm
sorry.
I
missed
the
last
discussion
over
section
six
6,
because
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions
about
some
of
the
items
in
there,
specifically
in
section
6.3
traffic
and
parking
commission.
E
E
E
A
That's
a
that's
a
great
point,
and
you
know
what
actually
now
that
you.
If,
if
I
could
speak
from
the
chair
now
that
you
bring
this
up,
I
would
also.
I
also
think
that
we
should
change
the
the
fact
that
we
haven't.
A
A
The
police
chief
and
the
fire
chief
and
I've
noticed
personally
from
attending
these
meetings
that
they
are
usually
not
there
and
they
usually
appoint
someone
from
their
department
that
they
trust
to
be
a
part
of
this
commission,
which
makes
sense
to
me.
I
understand
that
both
chiefs
are
busy
and,
and
it
might
be,
a
commission
that
is
difficult
to
attend
at
times
giving
their
titles.
A
So
another
wise
decision
would
be
to
appoint
someone
from
each
department
as
opposed
to
claim
that
these
fire
chiefs,
that
the
fire
chief
and
the
police
chief
is
going
to
be
there
when
they're
actually
not
going
to
be
there.
I
don't
recall
the
last
time
I
saw
chief
kai's
or
two
balconies
at
any
of
these
meetings,
because
so
so
that
being
said,
I
would
propose
that
to
to
change
that
to
to
instead
of
having
them,
have
them
appoint
someone
from
each
department.
I
have
two
people.
A
D
So
I
mean
it
says
right
in
that
or
they're
designees,
so
I
mean,
I
think,
that
that
cup
pretty
much
covers
that
you
don't
need
to
really
change
anything
because
it
says
or
their
designees,
which
is
what
they
do
and
that's
the
reason
why
it's
like
that.
A
That's
what
I
said:
that's
exactly
what
I
just
said.
I
said
that
they
destinate
someone,
but
that
they
appear
here
as
they
should
be
a
part.
The
issue
consists
of
the
fire
chief
and
the
police
chief,
but
I
don't
recall
seeing
them
there.
So
that's
exactly
what
I
meant
they
designate
someone.
So
it
might
be
wise
to
change
that
and
if
we
know
that
the
chiefs
are
not
going
to
attend,
then
just
make
that
clear
in
writing
and
say
you
know
they
can
designate
someone
it's
it's
not.
You
know
it's.
A
It's
not
brain
surgery
to
designate
someone
if
they're
not
going
to
be
attending
calvin
first
and
then
I'll
go
to
jason
calvin.
G
So
that's
that's
exactly
what
I
was
to
say
because
all
the
years
that
I've
been
here
it's
always
been,
there
doesn't
mean
it's
always
it's
here.
I
think.
If
we
look
at
this-
and
we
should
give
it
some
consideration,
then
we
can
actually
reorganize
it
where
we
can
actually
have
someone
that
it
wouldn't
have
to
be
always
going
to
happen
because
you're
here
you're,
actually,
the
police
chief,
the
police
authority
and
the
director
of
dpw.
G
Community
development,
new
alex
transition-
we
may
want
to
just
consider
just
revamping
this
and
just
having
left
but
from
the
same
area.
Someone
from.
H
I
don't
think
you
need
to
go
to
that
level
at
time
point
as
todd
pointed
out,
it
says
or
designee,
so
I
think
you
should
leave
the
authority
with
the
chiefs
to
decide
who
they
want
to
go.
If
they
don't
want
to.
I
think,
generally
saying
a
member
of
the
fire
department
or
the
police
department.
Then
you
run
into
issues
on
who
is
that
they
that
picks
who
that
person
is.
H
G
G
Send
the
sergeant
next
week
against
in
the
captain
or
next
month
we
can
stay
with
that,
but
since
we're
discussing
it,
we
should
consider
looking
at
that.
Also,
if
you
want
to
say
hey
by
the
way
you
want
to
be
consistent.
If
you're
going
to
send
someone,
it
has
to
be
someone
of
rank,
it
has
to
be
someone
on
fire
and
not
just
any
one
of
your
destiny.
B
Yeah
all
right
and
alex
train
usually
come
compose
himself
to
represent
on
the
track
recognition.
A
Okay,
great,
so
we
move
on
anything
else
that
that's
lingering
from
sections
one
through
six
that
anybody
else
wants
to
go
back
to
no
we're
all
good
okay,
so
that
portion
of
the
meeting
is
closed.
Now
I'll,
open
it
to
public
speaking
portion
for
the
public
speaking
sorry,
this
is
my
phone
being
weird
for
the
public.
Speaking
portion.
We
have
counselor
javanni
recoupero
here
who
would
like
to
make
some
statements
so
counselor
javane
ricoboro,
you
have
the
floor.
I
This
part
here
it
says:
she'll
have
exclusive
authority.
The
word
exclusive
authority
means
absolute
power.
I
believe
that
that
should
be
taken
out,
and
the
city
council
should
have
a
say
because
a
city
council
people
come
to
councillors
and
ask
them
for
to
do
certain
things
within
the
street,
and
they
cannot
do
it
because
their
parking
commission
can
tell
them
no,
but
at
the
end
the
city
council
is
the
one
that
determines
what
the
parking
commission
does,
because
we
have
to
vote
on
it,
yes
or
no.
I
I
Yes,
they
do,
they
have
to
come
to
us
to
approve
it,
they
submit
it
and
we
have
to
approve
it.
If
we
don't
approve
it,
it
doesn't
go
in
effect,
that's
how
it
works.
So
why
should
the
city
council,
which
is
a
representative
of
the
people,
should
I
tell
them?
This
is
what
I
want
to
do.
They
can
reject
it
at
any
time
they
want
to
when
you
have
to
wait
90
days
to
resubmit
it.
I
So
if,
with
the
city
council
is
the
body
that
at
the
end,
determines
yes
or
no,
why
should
they
vote
themselves
to
say?
Okay,
this
is
what
we
would
like
to
do
and
if
we
would
like
to
do
it,
I'm
going
to
put
it
in
and
then
the
council
themselves
can
reject
it
or
take
it
just
like
they
do
it
shouldn't
be
that
this
body
itself
is
an
exclusive
one.
They
could
do
it
just
for
themselves.
I
I
C
G
I
A
Okay,
so
that's.
A
I'm
not
going
to
open
this
to
a
discussion
I'll,
let
you
continue
your
statement
and
then
once
you're
done
with
your
statement,
we'll
open
it
for
this
one.
So
so
what
else
do
you?
What
else
would
you
like
to
comment
on
so
so
for
now
what
I'm
hearing
is
you
want
to
change
the
word
that
says
exclusive
power.
I
I
So
why
don't
the
city
council
itself
put
something
in
and
if
the
finals
say
the
council
can
strike
them
out
if
they
don't
like
what
one
counselor
does
then
go
get
rid
of
it.
Just
like
we
do
now.
The
only
difference
is
that
I
would
like
to
see
that
we,
the
council,
can
put
something
and
they
can't
say
you
can't
do
it
because
they
can't
do
it
right
now
you
put
something
in
and
they
tell
you,
you
cannot
do
it.
I
So
you
want
an
elected
official
and
someone
comes
to
you
and
you
said,
because
it
happened
to
my
district
already.
I
know
how
it
feels
if
you
ask
them,
can
you
please
do
this
for
me,
they'll
turn
around
and
say
nope
and
you
can't
say
anything
they
don't.
They
have
to
think
of
the
other
person
like
I
put
in
for
a
section,
and
they
told
me
this
is
what
I'm
going
to
say
then
I'll
stop.
I
I
put
in
for
a
section
and
a
street
which
is
one
way
people
live
on
the
other
side
and
people
live
here
right.
So
they
said
you
can't
do
it.
The
reason
they
gave
me
was
oh
well.
We
can't
do
it
because
the
fire
truck
came
past
here,
but
yet
the
same
four
streets
are
the
same
size,
the
same
width
with
the
same
thing
on
two
streets:
three
streets.
I
I
Truck
from
what
I
understand
can
go
to
anything,
so
there
was
a
reason
that
they
didn't
want
to
do
it.
They
didn't
care
about
the
people
that
lived
on
the
other
side.
They
have
to
go
all
the
way
down
the
street
during
the
winter
to
get
to
their
house
and
at
the
the
final
outcome
of
a
lot.
All
of
it
is
a
simple
thing.
The
city
council
determines
more
or
less
if
they
approve
it,
yes
or
no,
so
why
can't
we
ourselves
put
something
in
and
we.
A
Much
for
your
statement
and
again
this
was
the
public
speaking
portion.
I
do
not
have
anyone
else
here
in
the
public
speaking
portion
list,
so
we
will
move
on
to
any
comments.
Does
anybody
have
any
lingering
comments
about
anything
counselor
todd,
taylor.
C
D
In
general,
you
know
I'm
inclined
not
to
change
anything
unless
there's
a
there's,
a
good
reason
to
change
something,
but
I
think
counselor
coopero
brings
up
an
interesting
point
as
far
as
it
doesn't
seem
to
me
and
and
and
if
cheryl
wants
to
chime
in
on
this
I'd
like
to
hear
her
opinion
when
I'm
done,
you
know
it
doesn't
seem
to
me
that
any
any
board
or
commission
should
necessarily
have
the
the
power
to
supersede
the
council.
D
The
city
council's
will
on
something.
Yet
that
is
kind
of
how
it
is
it's
that
it
seems
to
me
where
we
can
kind
of
have
a
veto,
but
then
we're
left
in
some
sort
of
no
man's
land
of
okay.
Well,
then,
we
have
to
wait
another
30
days
and
go
before
and
and-
and
you
know
it
just
it
just
seems
like
there
should
be
a
better
way
to
do
this
than
the
way
it's
set
up.
D
And
so-
and
so
you
know,
counselor
recuperal
at
least
has
a
point
about
that
that
exclusive
authority,
you
know,
may
not
be
such
a
great
idea.
I'm
not
saying
that.
I
I
don't
want
to
see
the
city
council
necessarily
have
to
make
all
the
decisions
for
everything
I
I
actually
believe
in
the
independent
nature
of
the
boards
being
a
member
of
one
of
those
boards
at
one
time.
D
So
I
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
think
it
spreads
out
the
power
which
is
which
is
which
is
also
a
healthy
thing
for
a
municipal
government,
but
you
know,
is,
is
there?
Is
there
a?
Is
there
a
way
that
that
the
to
kind
of
resolve
this
kind
of
no
man's
land?
If
the
traffic
commission
decides
it's
want
to
do
something
and
the
city
council
beat
those
and
then
it
goes
back.
I
mean
it
just.
F
So
it's
kind
of
interesting
todd.
You
have
the
money
as
residents
as
city
councillors,
to
present
your
petition
as
council
recuperal
did.
Then
you
have
independent
people
who
have
expertise
in
traffic
and
parking
reviewing
it
and
they
don't
send
to
the
council
what
they
think
is
not
good
for
the
city.
They
look
at
the
overall
city.
It's
not
just
about
those
neighbors
who
walk
to
that
area,
it's
about
all
the
other
streets
and
how
they
interact.
F
F
F
They
send
you
recommendations
as
to
new
zoning
amendments,
and
you
have
the
final
say
there,
so
you
do
have
a
weird
balance
of
power
once
you
start
to
chip
away
at
it.
A
Here
so
I'm
gonna
go
back
and
take
a
little
bit
of
control.
There
are
no
side
conversations
giovanni.
There
are
no
side
comments,
we're
having
a
discussion.
We
give
you
the
opportunity
to
speak
during
the
public
speaking
portion.
So
now
the
committee
is
reviewing
what
you
said
now.
That
being
said,
I
will
give
the
floor
to
mary
burke
giovanni.
A
J
F
So
if
you
wish
to
anything
as
to
parking
and
traffic
put
in
a
meter
getting
a
handicap,
changing
the
one
way
getting
a
speed
bump,
you
put
it,
you
send
in
the
request
to
the
traffic
and
parking
commission
or
the
parking
clerk
that
becomes
a
public
hearing.
So
the
public
and
the
people
around
get
noticed
so
abundance
will.
F
F
So
then,
I
think
even
the
city
manager
may
put
in
a
request.
He
has
to
go
through
the
traffic
and
parking
commission
to
make
changes.
So
then,
after
a
public
hearing,
there's
a
vote,
sometimes
they
continue
it
for
more
information
like
you
do
and
then
it
goes
to
a
vote.
If
it
is
approved,
it
goes
then,
to
the
city
council.
The
city
council
has
30
days
to
act
to
either
reject
it
or
accept
it.
So
that's
a
normal
petition.
F
J
If,
if
it
votes
it
down,
then
is
there
any
recourse
for
like
an
another
go
around
on
it.
J
No,
I
just
wanted
to
clarification.
I
mean
the
way
it.
It
is
constructed
now
from
cheryl's
description.
I
feel
there
is
a
good
checks
and
balance
system.
Yes,
you
have
to
wait
to
bring
it
up
again
and
bring
more
evidence,
but
it's
you
know
you're
going
through
a
public
hearing
you're
going
through.
So
I
mean
it
to
me:
it's
not
like
a
process
that
ensures
that
we're
not
doing
personal
agenda
items
and
pushing
those
through
so
okay.
A
D
Okay,
my
question
is
about
the
actual
when,
when
something
is
passed
or
not
passed
by
the
traffic
commission
and
it
comes
before
the
council
and
the
council
then
denies
the
commission
did
and
sends
it
back,
it's
it's
like
a
game
of
ping
pong,
okay,
so
so
so
it
keeps
going
back
and
forth.
D
Okay,
as
we
all
know
whether
we've
been
on
the
council
or
not,
there's
11
people
there
with
11
different
things,
and
so
my
point
is-
is
that
if
you
have
eight
counselors
right
that
you
know
vote
or
whatever,
whatever
the
number
could
be
that
that
theoretically
elected
the
council's,
the
elected
will
of
the
people
and
so
and
so
getting
a
counsellors
is
very
difficult.
D
Okay,
I
mean
so
so
I
guess
what
I'm
throwing
out
there
is,
you
know,
maybe
some
sort
of
super
majority
of
the
council
kind
of
end
it
and
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
a
good
idea,
I'm
not
necessarily
saying
this
is
what
we
should
do.
F
C
F
F
You
didn't
appreciate,
you
didn't
like
the
downtown
quarter,
the
first
plan,
and
I
don't
even
think
you
liked
the
second
plan
right,
so
I'm
just
saying
is
that
you
push
back
and
that's
the
power
you
have
is
that
this
is
all
great
and
dandy
and
you
spent
three
years
on
it,
but
it's
not
going
to
work
for
our
residents.
So
that
was
a
perfect
thing
for
the
city
to
do
so.
D
F
D
This
is
my
comment
about
this
particular
thing
that
we,
you
know
the
traffic
commission
or
the
licensing
board
or
or
any
of
these
other.
I
I've
always
supported
their
independence.
I
don't
want
them
to
come
under
the
thumb
of
the
city
council.
So
so
you
know.
D
Think
about-
and
I
think,
the
rest
of
the
members
you
know
by
the
time
we
come
back
around
and
have
to
take
a
vote
on
all
these
things.
You
might
want
to
think
about
those
issues.
That's
all.
A
B
Think
I
think
what
some
of
the
confusion
is
is
when
we
get
a
report
from
the
traffic
commission.
I
think
the
council
thinks
as
a
whole
that
we
have
to
prove
the
letter
in
which
they
sent.
So
if
there
are
ten
items
that
come
over
and
I'm
against
the
fifth
item,
then
it's
my
job
to
lobby
my
colleague
to
be
on
board
with
me
to
be
able
to
turn
it
down
and
send
it
back
to
the
traffic
community
and
that's
how
it
works
and
that's
how
you
get
a
little
balance.
A
And
going
back
to
counselor
robinson's
point
I
mean
in
my
tenure
here
as
a
councilwoman.
It
has
happened
where
one
particular
counselor
is
not
in
favor
of
one
particular
measure
and
you
can
pull
it
out
and
and
say
you
know,
let's
vote
for
everything
except
this
one
item
so
so
yeah
agree.
Agree
with
your
point
is:
are
there
any
other
comments
from
this
specific
committee?
This
is
only
committee
members.
Public
speaking
portion
is
already
closed.
A
Any
other
comment,
jason.
So.
H
I
guess
thinking
through
what
everyone
has
said
is
the
word
exclusive
authority
in
there
even
make
any
sense,
because
it
doesn't
seem
like
they
actually
have
exclusive
authority
right
because
it
actually
is
going
to
city
council
to
approve
so
well,
it's
well,
it's
different
than
what
mr
akupuro
said
it.
I.
I
don't
even
think
that
we're
giving
them
the
power
that
the
charter
says
that
they
have.
A
E
Charlene
yeah,
I
would
just
then
just
strike
the
word
exclusive
that
they
shall
have
authority,
except
as
otherwise
provided
by
the
charter.
I
think
that
would
cover
you
know
what
their
obligations
and
rights
are
to
promulgate
laws,
suggestions,
rules,
etcetera,
just
trying
to
just
delete
the
word
exclusive.
E
H
Right
right
they
have
authority
and
then
everything
else
in
there
says
they're
governed
by
various
various
general
laws,
which
makes
sense
and
I'm
sure
that
if
they
deny
something
to
be,
you
know
we
want
this
road
to
be
two
ways:
they'll
deny
it
and
say
it's
not
wide
enough
based
on
xyz
general
law
that
I'm
sure
is
coming
from
the
state.
So
they
they
have
they're
governed
by
another
I'll
use,
power
or
legislation
right,
that's
greater
than
the
city
and
so
yeah
yeah.
Okay,
I
agree
with
charlene.
That's
fine.
G
F
Back
to
it,
so
if
you
take
out
this
word
exclusive,
a
third
authority
and
say
to
adopt,
amend,
alter
and
repair
rules,
then
are
you
opening
it
up
for
someone
else
to
adopt,
to
amend,
alter
and
repeal
rules
and
regulations?
Yes,
and
that's
what
that's
why
it
says:
exclusive
authority
is
because
the
city.
J
H
F
E
G
Yeah,
just
put
that
I
think
the
word
exclusively
also
goes
and
brings
in
the
regulations
that
we
still
have
to
abide
by
it
takes
that
away
from
us
and
it
allows
us
to
come
in
whatever
defined
desert
or
whatever
way.
We
want
to
talk
and
scrutinize
this.
Whatever
we're
trying
to
do,
I
think
it
worked
the
way
it
is
so
I
think
you
know,
as
possible.
Taylor
said
every
a
moment
ago.
If
it's
just
to
look
and
review
it,
we
reviewed
it,
we
looked
at
it
and
it
works.
G
It
gives
us
text,
it
gives
us
balance
and
again
it
does
give
us
an
avenue
if
we
really
want
to
go
and
feel
that
this
handicap
sign
needs
to
be
here.
We
need
to
have
something
to
really
indicate
this
person.
You
know
fit
the
description
of
whatever
defines
handicap
and
then
we'll
bring
that
to
the
commission,
we'll
bring
the
other
evidence
to
the
commission
and
we'll
work
with
it.
Taking
the
word
exclusive
out
allows
you
to
weaken
this
whole
sentence.
J
You
also
had
go
ahead.
No,
actually
I
was,
I
was
going
to
say
something
very
similar
to
what
calvin.
So
I
support
what
calvin
said.
I
think
the
other
thing
too,
is
that
you
know
again
we
go
back.
I
go
back
to
you
know
what
I've
heard
earlier
from
you
know.
Counselor
taylor
from
you
know,
general.
You
know
it's.
J
You
know,
there's
only
been
a
few
cases
in
the
last
couple
of
years
where
something
has
gone
back
and
forth,
but
overall
it
has
worked
and
it's
worked
ethically
and
the
tension
between
the
bodies
is
a
healthy
tension
in
government
that
should
be
there
so
that
things
do
work
ethically
on
behalf
of
residents.
So
I
would
say:
let's
leave
this
alone.
J
C
A
A
H
A
A
It
was
a
short
one,
so
anyone
I
I
didn't-
receive
any
recommendations
or
suggestions
from
anyone
to
make
any
changes.
So
is
everyone?
Okay,
with
section
seven
and
for
anyone
watching
at
home,
section
seven
discusses
the
election
and
the
process
of
candidates
running
for
office
nominations.
A
E
I
have
a
question
for
cheryl
regarding
I'm
looking
at
section
7.4
regarding
districts.
What
would
trigger
a
review
and
a
redrawing
of
voting
districts
within
the
city
of
chelsea,
the
census.
F
Is
one
main
way
that
triggers
it
and
that's
where
the
commonwealth
would
and
the
department
of
justice
if
we
have
a
increase
of
residence
that
would
automatically
trigger
it
sometimes
sometimes
a
lawsuit
in
the
past?
We
did
it
because
the
department
of
justice
found
that
our
school
districts
needed
to
be
more
representative,
so
there's
different
ways
to
trigger
it.
Maybe
the
city
council
could
also,
I
believe
this
may
have
happened,
vote
to
redistrict.
F
E
Okay,
so,
but
the
city
council
could,
outside
of
the
census
or
a
lawsuit,
the
city
council
could
theoretically
call
for
a
redrawing
of
I'm
thinking
more
particularly
of
the
city
council,
districts.
F
Okay,
so,
for
example,
we've
had
a
lot
of
housing
development,
so
that
may
include
increase
the
amount
of
residents
in
different
type
of
districts,
because
a
lot
of
the
development
has
been
happening
outside
of,
for
example,
the
downtown
district
and,
for
example,
by
the
high
school
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
residents,
which
is
district
8.
I
believe,
by
the
over
there
on
spencer
ave
we've
had
quite
a
few
developments
and
down
by
the
broadway
upper
broadway
and
near
revere.
F
So
I'm
just
saying
is
that
that
sometimes
the
city
manager
or
the
city
council
will
consider
redistricting,
but
the
census
is
how
you
base
how
many
residents.
H
The
first,
I
think,
is
a
typo
in
72c.
It
says
office
whose
names
may
be
printed
in
the
official
ballot.
Should
that
be.
H
A
F
A
F
Did
he
wanted
to
mirror
the
city
elections
yeah?
He
wanted
one
to
maybe
go
saturday
and
two
maybe
have
the
city
election,
the
local
election
the
same
year
as
the
federal
elections
for
president,
so
saturday's
interesting.
He
had
me
look
into
it.
Some
towns
do
that
city
doesn't
do
it
because
it's
overtime
cost,
but
it's
something.
A
A
And
again
he's
not
here,
so
I
can't
really
speak
in
his
hat,
but
but
the
reasoning
I've
heard
from
people
who
share
his
point
of
view
is
that
it's
it's
a
matter
of
access
and
saturday
seems
to
be
a
good
day
for
people.
You
know,
voter
turnout
tends
to
be
pretty
low
overall,
especially
for
municipal
elections
and
having
it
on
a
saturday
where
there
was
not
necessarily.
A
I
understand
some
people
work
over
the
weekends,
but
not
everyone
works
over
the
weekends.
It
just
makes
it
easier,
and
I
see
your
point
cheryl.
It
might
be
more
of
a
cost
for
a
city
in
terms
of
overtime,
expense,
but
in
terms
of
residence
it
might
be
a
more
viable
option
in
terms
of
being
able
to
go
out
to
the
pools
on
saturday.
So.
D
So
there's
there's
one
pretty
obvious
problem
with
saturday
voting,
and
that
is
that
there
are
religious
groups
who
keep
saturday
as
the
sabbath
jews,
seventh-day
adventists,
and
I
I
think
that
that
is
kind
of
a
you
know.
That
would
not
be
a
good
move
to
move
it
to
saturday
and
I
think
you're
gonna
have
legal
challenges
to
that.
D
D
If
some
of
you
remember
so
I
I
I
while
I
understand
we
want
to
get
more
people
involved
in
in
doing
in
participating,
and
I
do
too
I
just
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
the
way
to
go
about
it
and
you
know,
I
think
that
there's
there
would
be
problems
with
doing
that.
E
You
know,
I
don't
know
if
this
is
something
we
can
realistically
look
altering
now,
because
I
think
there
are
cost
considerations
that
need
to
be
explored.
I
do
agree.
Greater
access
needs
to
be
provided
to
encourage
the
largest
number
of
people
to
vote.
E
One
option
I
mean
you
know
in
most
european
countries:
it's
not
a
one
day
event.
You
know
it
can
be
two
or
three
days
again
to
ensure
people
have
the
the
greatest
access
possible.
So
you
know
something
to
think
about.
Do
we
have
you
know
four
municipal
elections?
E
Do
we
have
you
know?
Do
we
have
a
saturday
and
a
tuesday,
or
I
mean
you
know
it
would
delay?
You
know
the
the
official
reporting,
but
you
know
you
could
get
more
people
to
come
out
and
vote
in
municipal
elections.
Of
course,
there's
a
cost
associated
with
that.
You
know
by
having
it
on.
You
know
having
to
to
staff
up
on
a
saturday
and
then
to
do
it
again
on
you
know
a
weekday.
E
You
know
it's
something
to
think
about.
Also,
are
we
going
to
formalize
or
you
know,
permanently
have
voting
by
mail?
You
know
or
was?
Is
this
just
a
covet
event,
because
I
think
you
know
voting
having
the
option
to
vote
by
nail
will
hopefully
encourage
more
people
to
participate,
because
you
don't
have
to
carve
out
the
time
from
your
schedule.
E
So,
like
I
said,
I
mean
these
are
all
things
to
think
about
and
they're
also.
It's
also
why
I
don't
think
changing
the
date
for
voting
is
something
we.
It
might
not
be
something
we
can
do
during
this
process.
I
mean
it
might
be
something
that
the
city
council
will
have
to
take
up
at
a
later
date,
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say
on
the
subject.
Thank
you.
Thank.
H
F
So
this
was
the
second
election
period
that
we've
done.
We
did
early
voting
where
you
could
vote
in
city
hall
early
with
the
early
voting
in
the
mail-in
ballots,
and
we
had
quite
a
few
mail-in
ballots.
More
people
did,
I
believe,
vote
in
the
primary
which
we
don't
normally
have,
and
and
plus
we
had
a
local
representative
running
in
a
state
election.
So
we
had
more
people
vote.
I
think
you
might
see
more
people
vote
by
mail
because
it
worked.
F
We
didn't
really
have
complaints
in
chelsea
about
mail
and
the
mail
on
ballots
and
we
had
not
just
the
regular
put
it
in
the
mail.
You
could
bring
your
ballot
to
city
hall
or
put
it
in
the
green
box
out
front.
So
you
could
vote
on
your
own
time.
If
you
requested
to
do
so.
B
Think
when,
when
the
census
comes
in,
I
think
that
we're
probably
going
to
really
have
to
take
a
look
at
how
we
redo
the
districts,
and
I
I
personally
go
back
to
the
number
of
four
at
large
and
five
wars
and
I
think
that
we've
got
more
people
coming
out
and
participating
than
we
do
right
now
at
this
time.
That's
a
proposal
that
I
will
continue
to
push
on
the
council.
C
A
Nine
members
counselors
council
robinson-
I
mean
council
brown,
sorry,
so
I
just
wanted.
G
To
add,
because
we
had
some
fruitful
conversation
regarding
voting
one
way
you
could
do
it.
G
Of
work
with
the
for
the
town,
and
in
this
case
for
our
city,
it
would
be
a
lot
of
work
because
she's
getting
back
coming
in
every
day,
you
have
to
check
the
boxes
out
front,
but
you
don't
have
to
have
a
two-day
election.
You
don't
have
to
move
an
election.
You
just
have
more
time
to
vote
by
the
mail
which
is
called
earlier,
not
going
into
a
two
or
three
different
polling
locations
just
one
on
election
day,
but
you
can
just
vote
your
vote
by
mailing
paul.
It's
pretty
much
fairly
vulnerable.
J
So
I
once
again
I
would
echo
calvin
and
say
definitely
the
the
voting
by
mail,
I
think
was
was
wonderful.
I
mean
it
was.
It
was
great
not
having
not
having
to
you
know,
make
time
after
work
and
and
go
to
the
polls
and
things
on
that
nature.
It
was
very
convenient,
and
I
think,
and
so
and-
and
I
would
say-
and
I
have
been
on
the
record-
and
I
wrote
it
earlier
in
this
process-
I
I
would
be
against
counselor
robinson,
reducing
the
number
of
counselors.
J
I
don't
think
that
reducing
the
number
of
health
years
is
going
to
increase
votes
or
the
number
of
people
voting
are
decreasing
the
the
counselors
to
increase
it's.
It's
two
separate
issues,
and
I
think
that
that
and
I've
stated
it
before.
I
think
that
would,
by
decreasing
the
number
of
counselors
you're
you're,
actually
giving
those
counselors
more
power
over
the
entire
democratic
problem.
I
would
be
against
it.
A
B
I'm
gonna
tell
you
why
it
ended
up.
11
council
go
ahead.
Okay,
it
was
gerrymandered
because
the
counselors
who
were
presently
serving
on
the
council
had
control
over
the
redistricting.
So
they
didn't
want
me
to
run
against
henry
because
we're
in
the
same
ward.
So
that's
how
they
gerrymandered
it
split
up
to
make
sure
there
was
enough
voters
in
the
different
districts.
So
that's
how
we
ended
up
with
11th
district.
B
Right
so
yeah,
so
if
I
represented
lord
three
all
right,
it
was
a
pretty
large
district.
C
B
A
Great
okay,
well,
everyone's
personal
opinion
is
welcomed
here.
Counselor
taylor.
D
So
so
I
would
just
say
that
if,
if
we're
concerned
about
too
few
the
power
being
in
too
few
hands,
you
know,
maybe
we
ought
to
increase
the
the
number
of
counselors
to
say
15
in
order
to
in
order
to
make
sure
that
that
not
one
person
has
you
know
all
this,
I
mean
for
me.
D
One
of
the
reasons
why
we
have
low
participation
is
because
we
we
have
no
mayor
and
the
mayor.
The
mayor's
race
brings
out
participation,
but
we
had
problems
with
with
our
bears,
and
so
you
know
this
is
why
we
can't
have
nice
things.
But
my
whole
point
is
you
can't
have
everything,
and
I
think
that
one
of
the
advantages
that
counselor
robinson
and
I
agree
on-
is
that
by
reducing
the
number
of
of
people,
it's
it's
it's
easier.
I
think,
to.
D
Really
bore
down
into
the
issues
and
problems
that
face
the
the
city,
and
I
think
that
if
there
are
less
counselors,
then
there's
more
of
an
interest
in
in
who
those
spots
go
to.
Therefore,
you
know
propelling
more
participation
in
this
process.
I
mean
some
of
these.
Some
of
these
races.
I
mean
you
know
you,
don't
you
don't
even
need
100
votes
to
get
to
be
elected
to
city
council,
so
I
mean
I
think,
that
there
this
is
an
issue
I
mean
this
is
not.
This
is
not
a
fake
issue.
D
This
is
a
real
issue
and,
and
I'd
like
to
see
greater
participation
too,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
that
has
to
come
with
stuff
outside
the
charter
like
how
we
actually
have
a
public
discourse
in
this
in
this
city
which
which
I've
been
complaining
about
for
a
long
time.
So
you
know
we,
I
I
think
I
think
that
we
ought
to
consider
going
back
to
the
wards.
These
are
already
established.
D
I
you
know
leo
wants
to
go
back
to
five
words.
We
have
four
active
words
now.
I
think
that
that's
plenty
so
so
you
know,
I
think
that
we
ought
to
think
about
these
things
and
decide
what's
more
important,
you
know
a
concern
that
power
is
in
the
hands
of
too
few
or
greater
participation
in
the
process.
D
A
G
So
you
know
it's
easy
to
talk
about
this,
but
it's
very
hard
to
to
get
it
done.
If
you
look
at
the
awards
right
now,
with
all
the
housing
being
developed
and
folks
are
moving
in,
you
have
one
word
right
now
that
may
have
8
000
people
in
right.
Now
you
have
the
average
water.
You
can
look
at
your
back
of
your
book.
Your
registration
book
in
the
city
clerk,
the
average
ward
10
years
ago,
was
number
25
24
to
2500
persons
per
precinct
and
you
get
a
total.
G
You
make
up
the
12
000
12
000
voters
in
the
city,
but
you
make
up
the
42
000
voters
in
the
city,
so
it
has
nothing
really
to
do
with
wars,
because
you
have
a
lot
of
work
you
have
to
do
and
if
you
try
that
method,
what
you're
talking
about
you're
going
to
discriminate
against
people
and
that's
where
we
try
to
get
away
from
and
it's
a
lot
of
work,
it's
not
an
easy.
It's
not
an
easy
fix.
G
F
So
you
were
thinking
about
more
participation
in
the
process
and
who's
representing
you
know
you
get
elected
by,
I
believe
in
the
school
committee
someone
got
elected
by
what
one
or
two
votes
one
year,
but
so
in
section
seven
dash,
I
believe,
7-2
the
second
under
a
you
could
increase
the
requirements
for
the
signature,
get
more
participation
that
way
by
the
public.
Have
200
people
sign
your
petition
to
run,
I
mean
50
people,
that's
your
relatives.
It
just
should
be
maybe
different
for
city-wide
and
different
for
districts.
F
So
the
charter
does
allow
you
to
increase
participation
a
little
differently
than
than
just
50.
I
mean
that's
crazy.
You
know
we
have
more
than
50
people
in
every
single
district
and
city-wide
we've
got
40.
You
know
we
can
get
more
people
registered.
If
you
have
the
candidates
out
there,
knocking
on
doors
and
getting
signatures.
F
F
G
Agree,
I
think
in
most
cities-
and
we
do
I
work
with
the
secretary
of
state's
office
and
most
cities.
It's
unheard
of.
You
have
towns
to
run
for
selectmen
and
you
need
a
hundred
votes.
A
hundred
signatures
to
get
on.
You
got
city
council
for
district.
Here
you
need
50
to
get
on.
You
got
city
councils
at
large,
you
need
50..
What's
the
energy
there's?
No
energy,
there's
no
participation!
G
G
G
Signatures
well,
I
think
we
got
screwed
by
the
federal
government
down
in
washington
dc
and
we
came
back
with
what
we
thought
was
fear.
They
didn't,
they
didn't
put.
They
didn't
put
numbers
on.
So
that's
right.
That's
how
you
get
participation.
I
don't
think
the
mayor
makes
it
different.
So
it's
ways
we
can
do
it.
A
Great
so
counselor
robinson,
no
I'm
just
saying
I
just
said
she.
J
So
I
would
also
you
know:
garfield,
I'm
sorry,
but
I'm
I'm
actually
agreeing
with
you
again.
I
think
it
should.
I
I
think
we
should
have
more,
especially
with
all
the
development
in
chelsea
and
all
of
the
people
moving
in
this
is
the
time
to
increase
the
requirement
of
the
signatures
right.
You
know
and
it
gets
our
city
leaders
out
there
knocking
on
the
doors
in
some
of
these
developments
like
one
north
and
lord
knows,
I
don't
know
what
they
call
they're,
calling
that
next
to
chelsea
high
but
yeah.
J
So
no,
I
agree
and
calvin
yeah
we're
right
on
the
same
page
tonight.
A
Okay,
great,
so
I'm
glad
you
know
it
happens,
some
nights,
we
agree
with
each
other.
So
so
what
I'm
hearing
is
we
might
be
considering
changing
the
number
of
signatures
for
elected
officials.
C
C
A
A
Exactly
so
so
yeah,
so
if
this
is
something
that
wants
to
be
presented.
C
A
Great
so
so
yeah
sleep
on
it
think
about
it.
It
might
be
a
number
that
we
might
want
to
increase
a
hundred
two
hundred
three
hundred.
Let.
G
I
C
D
C
D
So,
just
just
for
you
know
to
put
a
scale
on
things
here
I
mean
the
state.
The
state
requirement
for
state
rep
is
150
signatures
in
in
a
in
a
state,
rep
district.
So
you
know,
let's
not
go
crazy
with
300
or
500
I
mean
I
actually
think
that
would
that
would
increase
the
incumbent's
likelihood
to
stay
in.
D
If
you
increased
it,
you
know
make
it
harder
for
the
for
the
guy
who
wants
the
new
guy,
but
I
you
know,
I
I
think
if
you
wanted
to
increase
it,
to
a
hundred
that
that's
fair,
I
mean
that's.
At
least
you
could
get
you'd
have
to
get
more
people
to
sign.
Your
papers
then
end
up
voting
for
for
you
in
the
general
election.
So
I
mean
you
know
this.
Is
you
know?
D
A
Mean-
and
I
think
the
other-
the
other
point
which
you're
raising
a
good
point-
council
brown
councillor-
taylor-
sorry,
I'm
like
all
over
the
place
today
is
what
council
robinson
just
mentioned,
which
was
that
a
few
years
back,
we
had
to
lower
the
number
of
signatures,
because
we
got
into
some
situation
with
the
law
right.
So.
E
C
C
A
C
A
Fine,
I
always
submit
100
150
just
in
case,
but
that's
because
I'm
overly
ambitious,
but
I'm
fine
with
any
number
that
the
entire
consensus.
C
A
Well,
that's
a
discussion
for
for
another
day,
but
think
about
it.
If
anyone
feels
strongly
about
it
submit
something
in
writing
again,
we'll
be
presenting
a
final
package
to
the
council
once
we're
done
with
the
reading
the
entire
section,
the
entire
city
charter,
which
we're
just
weeks
away
from
we
just
finished
talking
about
section
seven.
Anyone
else
have
any
comments
regarding
section,
seven
that
they
feel
strongly
about
now.
A
Okay,
so
for
next
week,
not
next
week,
the
following
week,
we
have
section
8-
and
I
also
want
to
take
this
moment
to
remind
every
single
member
of
this
committee-
that
you
may
have
received
an
email
from
counselor,
melinda
vega,
inviting
you
to
a
meeting
on
the
23rd.
That
was
a
glitch
in
the
system.
That
is
not
a
correct
meeting.
We're
sticking
to
schedule
so
that
is,
do
not
show
up
on
the
23rd.
A
You
know
yeah.
So
if
you
don't
have
to
come
in
on
the
23rd
read
section
8,
we
will
be
discussing
section
8
and
for
the
public
who
is
watching
us
now,
and
you
have
any
comments
regarding
any
section.
Please
feel
free
to
submit
it
by
writing
to
either
myself
at
judith,
garcia
lcma.gov,
who
is
our
superhero
and
amazing
administrative
assistant.
Her
email
is
f,
milada
n-e-l-a-r-a
at
chelsea.gov.
A
You
can
submit
to
us
or
you
can
call
us
at
617-466-4060,
and
let
us
know
that
you
will
be
coming
in
and
we'll
add
you
to
the
list
for
the
public
speaking
portion.
So
just
remember
that
if
you're
coming
as
a
guest
for
public
speaking,
we
will
open
it
public.
Speaking
portion,
you
can
speak,
it's
not
going
to
be
an
active
discussion
with
the
committee.
The
committee
will
have
discussions
regarding
any
comments
that
were
said
during
our
discussion
portion,
but
this
is
not
a
back
and
forth
with
committee
members.