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From YouTube: Planning Board Meeting of 5-24-22
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City of Chelsea
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Hey
all
right
perfect.
So,
like
I
said
before,
my
name
is
vladimir
samuel.
I'm
the
president
of
concrete
garden.
This
is
alex
yo-yo.
He's
my
partner
he's
the
vice
president,
we're
both.
I
think
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
we're
both
long
long
time,
chelsea
residents,
graduated
chelsea
high
alex,
has
started
a
trucking
company
called
yoyo
trucking.
I
myself
have
worked
in
countless
retails
hospitality
spaces
as
well
as
I
have
a
science
background.
I'm
currently
I
should
achieve
my
degree
by
december
in
chemistry
and
yeah.
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We
can
go
to
the
next
page,
so
I
myself,
I'm
the
co-founder
and
president
he's
the
vice
president
elon
rodriguez.
Is
our
community
outreach
he
graduated
from
syracuse
with
his
bachelor's
and
he
got
his
master's
from
uma
from
boston
college
he's
currently
a
dean
at
a
at
an
academy
in
newton
moona
kingston
is
our
communications
and
our
public
relations.
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He
worked
in
several
casinos
in
the
d.c
maryland
area
as
well,
so
we're
happy
to
have
him
on
board
as
well
and
that's
pretty
much
our
personnel.
We
have
a
medical
liaison
as
well
jenny,
mel
gizo.
She
is
she's
going
for
her
doctorate
right
now
at
yale
and
yeah.
That's
our
medical
liaison
and
we
can
go
to
the
next
page.
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You
have
to
you'll
be
checked
in
at
a
security
checkpoint
here,
at
which
point,
then
you
will
be
brought
to
the
secondary
security
desk
after
you're
buzzed
into
the
store,
and
they
will
then
log
you
into
our
system.
At
that
point.
This
is
our
counter
service,
where,
where
the
back
here
is
our
storage
area,
where
we
will
hold
the
cannabis
during
hours,
operation
after
hours,
operation
before
and
after
hours,
operation,
everything
will
be
stored
in
a
vault
in
the
vault
area.
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We'll
be
taking
deliveries
from
division
street
this
back
door
here
lead
stars.
We
had
spoken
with
the
zoning
board
and
we're
probably
gonna
put
a
hallway
to
split
it,
so
that
we
have
our
own
enter
our
back
entrance.
I
have
already
spoken
to
the
the
landlord
and
he's
okay,
so
I
sent
it
over
to
my
architect
and
he's
going
to
put
it
together
on
the
floor
plans
for
me,
and
the
upstairs
area
is
here.
So
this
is
downstairs.
This
is
upstairs
up
here.
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Oh
so
for
parking,
we're
not
going
to
allow
employees
to
to
park
in
the
downtown
area
just
so
because
there
is
a
bunch
of
parking
there,
but
we
don't
want
to
take
up
any
parking
with
our
employees.
We,
we
have
two
parking
spaces
at
174th
street,
but
that
is
that's
just
for
employees.
It's
not
for
it's
not
for
customers.
That's
why
we're
going
for
our
off-street
parking.
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Permit
relief
for
our
special
permit,
we're
also
looking
at
the
office
space,
but
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
the
parking
itself
that'll
just
be
for
where,
where
we
have
how's
our
there'll
be
no
cannabis
at
the
office
space.
So
we
we
already
looked
at
90
and
100
evernote
and
we're
making
our
decision
between
the
two.
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Customers
have
to
be
buzzed
into
the
store.
All
cannabis.
Related
deliveries
will
be
taken
on
division
street
between
the
hours
of
8
a.m
and
2
p.m
as
to
not
cause
more
traffic
for
before
and
after
school,
we
won't
be
taking
any
night
deliveries
of
for
loss,
prevention,
reasons
and
things
of
that
nature.
Any.
F
D
Deliveries
will
be
brought
in
through
the
front
and
signed
for
by
security
and
we're
going
to
have
a
plethora
of
cameras
and
security
devices
in
place,
panic,
buttons
and
things
of
that
nature,
so
that
everything
is
secure
in
the
store
go
to
the
next
slide,
and
that
was
it
I'll,
be
I'll.
Take
some
questions.
If
you
have
any
now.
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B
So
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
your
question,
except
that
in
reading
the
letter
from
mr
mcateer,
it
sounds
as
though
well.
The
final
sentence
in
the
letter
is
all
violations
must
be
addressed
and
corrected
prior
to
final
approval
of
your
proposed
project.
I'm.
This
is
a
letter
to
you,
so
I
assume
you've
read
that.
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J
The
proposal
is
to
add
three
one-bedroom
units
and
one
two-bedroom
unit,
above
with
a
roof
deck,
overlooking
the
parking
area
in
the
back.
This
is
the
br2
district
and
the
intent
of
the
br2
district
is
to
encourage
uses
residential
over
retail
business.
It's
right
in
cary
square
john.
Do
you
have
the
most
recent
renderings?
This
is
the
plot
plan.
J
But
anyway,
we're
looking
to
this
board
for
parking
relief,
as
well
as
the
extension
of
a
non-conforming
use,
a
prior
non-conforming
use.
That
was
a
picture
of
the
present
building.
As
far
as
ms
garcia
is
concerned,
this
is
a
perfect
project
for
this
neighborhood
other
buildings
have
been
been
constructed
there.
That's
the
one,
it's
a
little
sideways,
but
that's
that's
a
rendering
of
the
finished
product.
J
Part
of
the
issue
is
that
the
way
things
work
now,
the
the
parking
lot
behind
the
building
is
shared
with
turf,
but
there
is
a
property
line
down
the
middle
right.
Now
the
two
two
owners
cooperate
as
far
as
parking
for
funerals
backing
out
of
the
parking
spaces
on
ms
garcia's
land,
but
there's
no
guarantee
that'll
continue
in
the
future,
so
they
have
redrawn
the
parking
to
allow
for.
Is
it
john?
Do
you
have
the
the
new
submission
that
madeleine
submitted
today
to.
K
K
This
is
parking
and
then
tandem
here
and
here
then
this
I'm
imagining
a
fence
here
and
parking
here
and
here
so
originally
we
thought-
maybe
three,
but
after
speaking
with
the
architect
and
just
looking
at
things
and
moving
things
around,
we
decided
that
this
would
most
likely
make
more
sense
because
of
the
fact
that
we
do
run
a
real
estate
office
and
we're
there
from
nine
to
five
and
most
of
the
agents
are
working
from
the
office
as
well
and
plus
the
two
businesses
that
I
have.
One
of
them
is
my
daughter.
K
She
does
a
brow,
it's
like
beauty
and
so
she's
there,
two
to
three
days
a
week,
nine
to
five,
sometimes
twelve,
to
five
and
then
the
other
person.
That's
there
is
well
underneath
same
thing:
they
work
with
applications
and
on
specific
days,
so
my
thought
was
that
it
would
allow
for
the
spaces
and
once
five
o'clock
comes
around,
the
whole
parking
lot
is
empty,
because
businesses
are
no
longer
there.
K
I
would
have
to
say
that
for
the
commercial-
I'm
sorry
for
the
residential
units,
we
would
have
this
side
of
the
building.
We're
thinking
that
this
would
be
like
a
fence
in
between,
so
that
the
other
trash
cans
would
be
in
the
back
of
the
building.
So
we
have
the
ones
for
the
commercial
and
then
here
so
we're
designating
this
area
for
the
residential,
which
would
be
the
evening
parking
of
course,
and
then
we're
deciding
that
the
other
area
would
be
for
the
commercial.
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J
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K
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
the
city
has
asked
for
us
to
plant
two
trees
there
we
love
the
idea.
My
only
concern
with
this
here
is
that
when
the
bus,
the
bus,
actually
stops,
I'm
worried
that
a
branch-
so
that's
the
only
thing
I'd-
have
to
sit
down
with
the
public
works
to
discuss
that
and
see
what
we
can
do
to
make
that
beautiful,
because,
obviously
I
want
that
to
look
nice.
All
of
the
original
remember
this
was
a
funeral
home.
So
all
of
the
landscaping
is
a
very
plain.
K
Very
so
that's
all
going
to
change.
I
want
to
add
color.
The
awning
is
an
existing
awning,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
add
light
lighting
underneath
it
we've
added
all
of
the
lighting
around
the
building
and
it's
actually
going
to
be
black.
He
couldn't
do
it
in
black.
He
made
them
gray,
but
I
want
them
to
match
the
roof
which
will
be
black
and
then
all
of
this
is
going
to
be
all
brand
new
landscaping.
Nice
colors,
nice
flowers,
that
they
change
throughout
the
seasons.
K
K
Yep,
so
this
is
the
front
view
from
the
side
and
then
and
then,
if
we
go,
I
believe
one
more
up
here.
It
is
so
because
we
have
to
make
up
for
the
green
space.
The
turf
did
mention
in
the
last
meeting
that
they
were
just
a
little
bit
concerned,
not
a
little,
but
they
were
had
some
concerns,
which
I
totally
understood.
They
are
a
funeral
home
and
if
people
are
coming
to
mourn
their
family
members
or
friends,
they
wouldn't
want
to
see
that.
So
I,
along
with
david,
are
proposing
a
wall.
K
C
K
Yes,
so
I,
after
they
were
here
for
the
last
meeting,
they
mentioned
that
they
didn't
want
to
see
that,
and
I
totally
got
it
so
I'm
proposing
a
wall
so
that
it
has
the
same
type
of
siding,
okay
and
it's
nicely
done,
but
that
no
one
can
overlook
the
parking
lot.
In
addition
to
that,
we
see
a
lot
of
casket
deliveries,
so
I'm
sure
tenants
don't
want
to
see
that
either.
So
it
kind
of
goes
both
ways,
so
it
totally
makes
sense.
So
that's
what
we
would
do
here.
K
J
And
there
are
also
lots
of
possibilities
these
days
for
privacy,
fences
that
are
very
pretty
allow
some
light
to
get
through,
but
still
block
the
view.
Sometimes
you
see
them
with
alternating
boards
or
different
things,
so
that
can
be
worked
out.
The
other
thing
I
would
mention
is
that
the
historical
commission
had
a
meeting
regarding
this
project
and
they
had
a
couple
of
concerns,
one
of
which
was
the
windows,
and
I
think
this
this
plan
addresses
that
it's
just
a
very
interesting
building.
J
K
In
addition
to,
we
did
the
extra
homework
and
my
understanding
is
that
the
businesses
were
that
when
I
went
back
to
the
owner
of
the
hit
to
kind
of
find
out
the
history-
and
the
one
thing
I
did
find
out
is
this
is
kerry
square
club
and
that's
where
they
started.
So
it's
it's
interesting,
that's
that's!
So
that's
where
they
are
now
and
that's
where
they
started
years
ago,
but
that's
the
only
real
business
that
I've
been
able
to,
because
my
understanding
is
that
there
was
a
house
in
the
back.
K
J
And
the
other
thing
I
would
mention
is
madeleine,
is
born
and
raised
in
chelsea
has
her
business
and
chelsea
always
has
had
her
business
in
chelsea,
and
you
know
listening
to
you
at
the
the
prior
hearing.
We
know
that
that's
very
important
to
the
city
and
and
madeline
contributes
an
awful
lot
business
wise
to
the
community
and
she's
she's
attached
to
the
community
for
life.
H
K
K
Is
actually
a
kirk
curve
cut?
Sorry
right
here,
so
that's
how
it
goes
in
and
then
it
extends
all
the
way
into
the
other
sidewalk,
because
this
is
their
parking
lot
to
go
in
and
out.
So
it's
existing
here
for
this
garage
and
that's
the
garage
that
I
spoke
to
you
about
earlier.
So
that's
all
the
curb
cut
is
existing.
K
H
K
I
I
really
wouldn't
I
think
it.
You
know
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
own
other
property,
and
it's
been
my
experience
that
usually
the
smaller
units,
don't
you
may
have
two
that
have
parking
and
two
that
may
not
and
seeing
that
we're
literally
the
bus.
La
stop
is
right
here
and
then
couple
of
blocks
down
to
the
purple
line
to
the
silver
line,
and
then
the
blue
line,
the
blue
bikes,
are
literally
right
here.
So
I
think
it's
actually
a
commuter's
dream
to
be
to
be
honest
with
you,
so
essentially.
K
No
they're,
no,
my
understanding
is
that
they're
not,
but
because
we're
out
of
the
building
by
five,
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
have
an
issue
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
coming
to
this
meeting
today,
I
decided
I
was
like
you
know,
keeping
an
eye
on
the
area
for
the
parking,
and
so
my
thought
is
that
once
we're
out
of
there
they're
going
to
be
able
to
to
park
and
mostly
everybody's
working
from
home
these
days.
So
it's
it's
different.
It's
a
different
time!
No,
because.
E
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K
G
K
K
G
K
K
Them
sorry,
so
this
is
this-
is
washington
ave
here
and
there's
currently
a
gate
here,
so
this
obviously
would
be
the
gate
would
be
eliminated
and
then
they
would
pull
into
here.
There's
all
this
additional
space,
but
I
kept
it
like
that,
just
so
that
they
can
turn
around.
If
need
be,
so
it
makes
it
easier.
This
is
actually
very
spacious
here,
yeah.
K
F
K
G
K
K
G
G
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J
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A
B
F
J
B
B
F
I
have
a
part
of
our
team
here
as
well,
so
we're
going
to
do
this
presentation
in
a
couple
different
tranches,
I'm
going
to
start
with
an
introduction,
I'm
going
to
give
you
guys
a
little
bit
of
background
about
the
company
myself,
my
partners
and
the
project
itself,
and
then
we're
going
to
have
each
individual
part
of
the
member
of
the
team
present
their
portion.
So
john,
if
you
don't
so
that
first,
this
is
a
rendering
of
what
we
believe
the
building
will
look
like
as
currently
proposed.
F
F
One
back
so
again,
this
is
just
just
briefly.
The
this
is
the
verdant
team.
This
is
the
development
team
myself
and
khadija.
We've
been
partners
in
development
for
about
10
years,
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
residential
development
over
in
east
boston
and
both
khadija,
and
I
have
phds
in
chemistry.
So
we've
we
used
to
work
at
harvard
medical
for
about
eight
years
before
we
got
into
development.
So
we
are.
F
We
have
a
some
insight
into
the
the
biology
space
and
the
research
and
development
lab,
so
we
don't
we're
not
just
developers
coming
in
and-
and
you
know,
coming
into
the
to
chelsea
and
just
presenting
a
research
and
development
lab.
We've
actually
worked
in
them,
so
we
we're
trying
to
do
it
in
a
little
more
intelligent
fashion
and
then
greg
nolan
is
also
a
part
of
our
team
and
he's
helping
out
with
various
parts
of
of
of
the
development
of
this
project.
So
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
John.
F
So
we
didn't
just
pick
this
site,
because
you
know
somebody
offered
it
to
us
or
we
knew
the
furamo
family.
We
actually
picked
the
site
because
we
think
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
Scientists
inherently
don't
like
to
drive
to
work,
they
would
prefer
to
use
public
transportation,
and
so
the
biggest
reason
we
chose
this
site
is
because
of
the
proximity
to
transportation.
F
F
Why
not
live
in
a
brand
new
apartment
and
walk
to
work?
So
I
think
that
will
also
be
interesting
and
then,
of
course,
we
have
the
the
high
school
here
which,
which
I'll
talk
about
in
a
little
bit
and
then
the
the
hotels
that
surround
the
the
building.
So
we're
going
to
have
people
coming
in
and
interviewing
you're
going
to
have
partners
from
out
of
state
coming
in
to
see
what's
going
on
in
these
labs,
and
so
you
know,
we
think
that
having
hotel
rooms
right
within
walking
distance
is
also
really
attractive.
F
F
So
the
reason
why
we're
here
obviously
is
we
do
have
variances
and
some
special
permit
asks
mainly
height
far
in
the
variants
and
then
the
off
street
parking
for
the
special
permit,
and
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about.
Why
we're
asking
for
these
things
and
then
I'll
have
the
rest
of
the
team
talk
about
the
building
and
and
some
of
the
other
things.
So,
john,
if
you
could
go
to
the
next
one,
so
the
reason
why
we're
asking
for
the
variances
is
there
are
some
hardships
here.
F
The
main
one
is
the
lot
shape.
It's
very
irregular
makes
it
challenging
to
to
fit
all
of
the
zoning
code,
precisely
especially
the
back
part
of
the
lot
there
we're
calling
this
a
regular
l
shape,
but
back
here
it's
really
hard
to
meet
setbacks
right,
and
so
we
want
to
maximize
the
lot.
But
when
you
start
running
into
funky
shapes
it
makes
it
a
little
challenging.
F
So
it
causes
us
to
have
issues
with
parking
and
usually
that
causes
the
buildings
to
be
a
little
bit
taller
next
slide,
we're
also
in
a
flood
zone
the
whole
site.
So
this
it
looks
like
it's
blurry,
but
that's
just
the
the
fema
website.
The
only
part
of
this
area-
that's
not
in
the
flood
zone,
is
the
elevated
portion
of
route
one.
So
if
you
look
on
the
right
side
of
the
screen,
there
that's
route
one.
This
is
just
for
clarity's
sake.
This
is
everett
avenue
here.
F
F
And
then
sorry,
one
back
and
then
we
also
there
is
contamination
on
this
lot.
So
there's
going
to
be
some
issues
with
the
soil
which
decreases
our
ability
with
some
of
our
foundational
options
and
then
also
we
can't
because
of
the
flood
zone
and
because
of
the
hot
soil,
we
can't
really
build
anything
below
grade.
So
just
a
lot
of
reasons
why
we're
asking
for
the
variances
that
we're
asking
for
next
slide
in
terms
of
the
parking
we
are
proposing
less
than
what
the
zoning
code
requires.
F
There
are
a
couple
reasons
for
this.
One
of
them
is
in
a
building
like
this
you're
not
going
to
have
simultaneous
use
of
the
entire
lab,
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is.
We
have
in
blue
labeled
office
space
and
then
in
the
yellow
and
the
yellows
look
about
the
same,
and
all
the
yellow
is
basically
the
lab
space.
So
there's
lab
space
in
the
lab
support
space.
F
If
an
employee
is
working
in
the
lab
they're
not
also
going
to
be
in
the
office,
you
don't
have
lab
personnel
and
office
personnel
they're
either
going
to
be
in
one
space
or
the
other,
and
so
in
a
building
like
this
you're
not
going
to
have
full
occupancy
at
any
time,
you're
pretty
much
going
to
have
50
occupancy
of
the
building.
If
everybody's
there
at
one
time
which
again
scientists
also
don't
work
normal
hours,
they
sometimes
they
work
ten
to
eight.
Sometimes
they
work
nine
to
five,
so
you're
going
to
have
a
lot
of.
F
F
If
you
can
get
to
south
station,
you
can
get
to
this
site
by
bus.
Again,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
have
the
multiple
bus
lines.
We
do
have
route
1
and
then
we
have
the
the
blue
bike
station
not
very
far
either
so
there's
a
variety
of
transportation
nodes
that
will
allow
for
a
decrease
in
parking
for
this
building
go
ahead
to
the
next
one,
oh
and
yeah,
so
the
I
just
you
can
go
through
the
next
couple,
but
I
I
listed
some
of
these
things.
F
Some
of
the
additional
points
that
I
wanted
to
make
before
I
passed
it
along
to
the
rest
of
the
group
are
we
have
already?
We
think
myself
and
my
partner
khadijah.
We
have
been
scientists
our
whole
life,
and
we
think
this
is
a
huge
opportunity,
because
the
high
school
is
right
across
the
street
that
we
can
collaborate.
F
We've
had
some
preliminary
conversations
with
with
councilman
robinson
and
the
superintendent
albeda
we
we
met.
Last
week
we
talked.
We
have
some
really
good
ideas,
nothing
finalized.
Yet
because
we
don't
know
you
know,
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
the
building
approved
before
we
start
committing
anything,
but
we
really
think
that
there
can
be
a
huge
collaboration
between
the
high
school
and
even
the
middle
school,
but
because
the
high
school's
so
close,
we
can
utilize
some
of
those.
F
I
also
did
a
little
bit
of
research
with
bunker
hill
community
college.
I
know
they
have
a
a
a
satellite
campus
close
and
there's
a
lot
of
degrees
that
bunker
hill
offers.
That
would
sort
of
be
in
a
nice
collaboration
between
this
building,
and
you
know,
there's
some
potential
there
to
you
know
allow
them
to
use
some
of
the
lab
space
or
even
just
communicate
with
scientists
in
the
building.
I
think
it's
it's
pretty
much.
Whatever
people
are
willing
to
do.
F
You
know
scientists
are
very
collaborative
and
that's
sort
of
what
we
want
this
to
be.
So
you
know
there
are
those
options
as
well
and
then
for
the
general
community.
There
is
going
to
be
a
restaurant.
On
the
first
floor.
Still
it
may
not
be
the
same
restaurant.
It
may
be,
there's
there's
no
definitive
answer
there,
but
we
will
have
some
restaurant
on
the
first
floor
that
will
be
accessible
to
the
building,
as
well
as
to
the
to
the
general
public.
F
There
will
be
a
door
from
the
everett
ave
side
and
then
we're
also
going
to
have
a
first
floor
assembly
conference
room
and
again
it's
going
to
be
available
to
the
public
if
the
community,
if
this
high
school,
if
anybody
in
the
community
wants
to
rent
that
space
out
or
book
that
space
and
have
any
kind
of
event
in
there
that
will
be
available
and
then
we've
we've
had
some
conversations
with
the
high
school
about
making
giving
access
to
the
parking
garage.
The
parking
garage
is
going
to
be
private.
F
There
was
some
some
push
back.
Originally
we
were
going
to
offer
some
public
parking,
but
the
there
was
some
push
back
from
the
high
school
because
of
various
various
reasons.
So
they
would
prefer
that
to
stay
private,
but
they
would
like
to
use
it
at
certain
times
which,
which
we
could
do
next
slide.
F
And
then
here
here's
just
a
an
outline
of
sort
of
the
the
project
itself.
I
think
it's
important
for
everybody
to
just
get
a
feel
for
how
long
this
this
could
be.
You
know
this
sort
of
the
timeline.
So
again,
we've
already
assembled
the
team
and
we're
currently
in
the
where
I'm
calling
acquire
zoning
approval.
We
we
went
to
our
first
zba
meeting
this
in
a
couple
weeks
ago.
F
We
had
to
continue
for
for
obvious
reasons,
but
so
we're
in
that
stage
right
now,
once
we
get
that
approval,
we're
about
nine
to
12
months
from
getting
our
building
permit.
So
once
we
get
approvals
from
the
zba
as
well
as
the
planning
board,
we
will
have
to
go
back
and
and
draw
up
our
construction
drawings.
So
we
can
get
our
permit
from
the
building
department
and
then,
while
we're
doing
the
the
building
permit,
we
will
start
pre-leasing.
This
building.
There's
there's
a
huge
demand
for
this
space
all
around
massachusetts.
F
So
we
will
start
pre-leasing
it.
We
have
a
team,
a
couple
of
different
broker
brokerages,
who
are
going
to
help
us
with
that,
and
they
believe
we
could
have
the
vast
majority
leased
up
before
we
even
start
building
it
and
then
once
we
get
our
building
permit
our
construction
team,
which
we
already
have
signed
on
with
it's
a
company,
called
dpr
they're
estimating
about
26
months
from
the
time
we
start
to
the
time,
people
can
start
moving
into
the
building.
F
L
L
The
site
fronts
on
both
well
give
me
the
fronts
both
on
everett
avenue
and
beach
street.
There
goes
about
166
feet
of
frontage
on
everett
avenue.
It's
about
66
feet
of
frontage
on
beach
street.
This
lots
just
under
an
acre
about
40
thousand
three
hundred
and
some
odd
square
feet.
Obviously,
it's
occupied
by
the
existing
floramos
restaurant
and
the
site
is
entirely
paved
right.
Now,
access
to
the
site
is
provided
by
one
of
two
curb
cuts
on
everett
avenue.
L
Again,
this
entire
site
is
located
within
the
hundred-year
flood
plain
elevation
10,
the
elevation
of
the
site
is
around
elevation,
eight
or
nine.
So
it's
you
know
sort
of
just
into
the
floodplain
relatively
flat.
You
know,
as
everyone
is
aware,
I'm
sure
most
people
have
been
to
the
site
if
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide.
L
So
my
presentation
is
going
to
be
pretty
brief.
As
you
can
see,
there
really
isn't
much
to
talk
about
the
site
because
the
the
majority
of
the
site
is
occupied
by
the
buildings.
Nonetheless,
this
curb
cut
will
be
closed.
This
existing
curb
cut
will
be
retained.
This
will
be
the
main
vehicular
access
into
the
site.
This
will
be
the
main
pedestrian
access
into
the
building.
L
There
will
be
a
proposed
curb
cut
on
beech
street
to
access
the
loading
areas
in
the
rear,
trash
and
utilities
will
be
serviced
in
this
area
here
also
through
the
existing
curb
cut,
because
this
is
a
sort
of
a
zero
lot
line.
Building
we'll
be
replacing
the
sidewalks
along
everett
avenue
and
along
beech
street
we've
summarized
in
the
land
usage
table
the
relief
that
we're
requiring
most
of
it
is
dimensional
relief,
as
was
discussed,
setbacks
far
height
and
that
sort
of
thing.
L
M
Thanks
if
it
works
excellent
good
evening,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
board,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
jeffrey
dirk.
I'm
the
managing
partner
of
vanessa
associates
and
we're
the
transportation
consultants
on
the
project.
I'm
next
slide,
john!
Please
thank
you.
So
there's
a
full
transportation
impact
assessment
that
was
prepared
for
the
project.
It
does
follow
mass
dot
guidelines
and
we
also
work
with
city
staff
to
understand
development
projects
in
the
area,
road
improvements
and
other
things
to
be
incorporated
within
our
analysis
itself.
M
One
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
mention
is
we're
talking
about
traffic
studies
or
transportation.
Studies
conducted
during
the
pandemic
is
that
there
is
methodology
and
appropriateness
for
adjusting
the
traffic
volumes
and
the
way
that
we
adjust
our
traffic
volumes.
Is
we
look
backwards
to
see,
hopefully
we'll
be
going
forward,
so
we
look
back
at
historic
traffic
counts.
Massdot
considers
2019
to
be
existing
conditions
so
as
we're
looking
at
conditions
in
2022.
M
In
terms
of
looking
at
the
impacts
of
the
project,
we've
basically
provided
a
broad
overview
to
say
it's
not
going
to
result
in
significant
impact
in
terms
of
increases
in
delays
in
vehicle
queuing
over
existing
conditions,
and
I
think
that's
a
very
significant
caveat
over
existing
conditions,
because
it
doesn't
mean
it's
free-flowing
traffic
in
the
area.
We
know
that
there's
a
number
of
intersections
that
are
have
movements
that
are
at
or
over
capacity,
so
we've
structured
some
improvements
to
try
to
deal
with
those
existing
conditions.
M
There
are
two
locations
where
we
had
identified
at
high
crash
locations
and
the
intersections
of
everett
avenue,
carver
carter,
street
and
everett
avenue
at
spruce
street.
Both
are
either
high
crash
locations
or
on
a
state
designated
list
as
high
crash
locations.
The
other
important
thing
to
mention
you
know,
as
you
heard
mentioned,
from
doug
at
the
outset.
I
mean
this
is
a
a
project
that
we
want
to
encourage
use
of
public
transportation,
so
walking
biking
and
things
are
important.
But
this
area
evident
avenue
and
spruce
street
are
both
high
pedestrian
crash
locations
as
well.
M
So
we're
as
we're
looking
at
improvements,
we're
trying
to
address
those
so
that
this
can
become
walkable,
bikeable
and
accessible
by
public
transportation,
and
then,
lastly,
we
did
look
at
the
driveways
to
make
sure
that
we
have
sufficient
line
of
sight
to
be
able
to
safely
enter
and
exit
the
site
next
slide.
John.
M
So
this
slide
just
shows
the
context
of
the
project
in
relation
to
the
transportation
infrastructure,
and
I
think
the
important
thing
to
point
out
is
whoop.
Well,
it's
not
going
to
work
on
the
slide
here.
It's
just
the
chelsea
silver
line
station,
which
is
within
a
three
minute
walking
distance
of
the
project
site,
there's
also
bus
lines,
mbta
bus
service,
the
112
and
the
114
bus
traveled,
down
everett
avenue
and
spruce
street
their
the
closest
bus.
Stop
was
within
about
a
one
minute,
walking
distance
of
the
site.
Next
slide.
John.
M
This
slide
shows
the
existing
conditions
in
the
area.
What
you
see
in
terms
of
where
you
see
the
orange
dash
lines,
that's
where
there
are
sidewalks,
so
you
can
see
there's
generally
sidewalks
along
both
sides
of
the
majority
of
the
roadways
where
we're
showing
blue
lines.
That's
where
there
are
crosswalks,
so
the
signalized
intersections
at
both
carter
and
spruce
have
crosswalks
with
push
buttons,
so
they're
fully
accessible
in
terms
of
being
able
to
cross,
and
then
the
the
city
is
invested
in
bike
accommodations
in
the
area.
M
So
we
have
bike
lanes
along
everett
street
as
well
edward
avenue
as
well
as
well
as
along
carter
street.
So
again
it
brings
us
to
proximity
to
public
transportation.
It's
walkable,
it's
bikable
in
the
area,
and
we
do
know
that
the
city
has
plans
for
improvements
along
spruce
street
as
well.
So
we
envision
those
bike.
Accommodations
would
also
come
along
spruce
street.
So
there
is
existing
infrastructure,
but
there's
also
future
infrastructure
that
we
can
take
advantage
of
next
slide.
M
John,
so
this
slide
shows
the
traffic
characteristics
of
the
project
and
it's
combined
in
terms
of
the
restaurant
space
that
was
mentioned,
as
well
as
a
laboratory
space.
We've
shown
automobile
trips,
transit
trips
and
pedestrian
and
bicycle
trips.
This
area
in
general
about
60
percent
of
the
residents
in
this
area
use
public
transportation,
we've
actually
flipped
those
numbers
and
have
said
60
will
be
automobile
trips
about
30
35
will
be
transit
strips
and
then
we'll
have
somewhere
between
5
and
10
of
pedestrian
bicycle
trips.
M
M
So,
what's
important,
is
we
look
at
those
numbers
of
the
200,
some
odd
vehicle
trips
that
we're
talking
about
again?
We
think
that's
conservative
on
the
high
side
is
the
dispersal
of
traffic,
so
this
slide
here
shows
how
the
trips
will
arrive
and
depart
from
the
project
site,
and
I
think
the
important
thing
to
look
at
is
it's
very
dispersed.
M
So
you
only
have
concentrated
traffic
right
at
the
project
site
and
then,
as
you
get
further
away
from
the
site,
the
numbers
get
smaller
and
smaller,
as
people
are
arriving
from
the
various
roadways
and
intersections
within
the
study
area.
So
again
you
don't
see
concentration
at
any
one
intersection
you
do
see
about.
40
percent
of
the
traffic
is
expected
to
be
oriented
to
and
from
route
1
and
then
would
travel
to
the
project
site
next
slide.
John,
thank
you.
So,
as
we've
assessed
the
impacts
of
the
project,
we've
developed
a
series
of
recommendations.
M
The
first
set
of
recommendations
deal
with
the
access
into
the
project
site.
So
there's
pretty
standard
things
that
you'd
expect
to
see
the
driveways
you've
recommended
to
be
24
feet
in
width.
That
would
I
would
vision
that
as
being
maximum
generally,
you,
as
you
probably
imagine
you
want
as
narrower,
curb
cut
as
possible
to
reduce
the
exposure
of
pedestrians
and
bicycles
as
they're
going
by
the
driveway.
M
So
I
would,
I
would
suggest
24
feet
will
be
the
maximum
that
we'd
want
to
have
at
the
site,
to
the
extent
that
the
garage
has
any
access
control
features.
You
want
this
or
a
gate
or
a
garage
door.
You
want
them
set
far
enough
back,
so
that
the
vehicle
doesn't
stick
out
into
the
sidewalk
as
it's
waiting
for
the
the
mechanism
to
operate,
so
that
dimension
is
from
the
face
of
the
garage
door
to
the
back
of
the
sidewalk
should
be
at
least
21
feet.
M
That
way,
you
don't
have
the
rear
end
of
the
vehicle
hanging
out
23
feet
is
a
minimum
drive
aisle
with
within
the
parking
garage
that
allows
for
vehicles
to
enter
and
exit
parking
spaces.
The
other
recommendations
are
just
standard
things.
You'd
expect
standardization
of
signs
making
sure
we
have
ada
compliance
and
then
making
sure
we
have
good
sight
lines
for
the
driveways,
but
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
place
anything
in
those
driveways,
including
snow.
That
would
obscure
sight
lines
next
slide.
M
John
in
terms
of
the
offsite
improvements,
the
intersection
of
everett
avenue
and
carter
street.
That
was
where
we
showed
that
signalized
intersection
had
the
most
significant
delays
with
or
without
the
project.
So
we've
recommended
that
as
a
part
of
this
project,
we
would
implement
an
optimal
traffic
signal,
timing
and
phasing
plan.
M
So
what
we're
doing
there
is
is
making
sure
that
the
intersection
is
operating
at
its
highest
efficiency
with
that
optimal
timing
and
phasing
plan,
what
we're
attempting
to
do
is
create
a
no
harm
condition
so
that
we
offset
the
impact
of
the
project,
but
we're
also
cognizant
of
making
sure
that
there's
sufficient
time
for
pedestrians
to
cross
each
of
the
crosswalks
at
the
intersection
and
that
there's
passage
time
for
bicycles
as
well.
That's
an
important
part
of
the
signal
phasing
at
the
intersection,
the
evidence
avenue
at
spruce
street.
M
M
The
same
is
can't
be
said
for
the
spruce
street
intersection,
so
we're
going
to
implement
or
facilitate
the
road
safety
audit
there,
which
will
define
specific
safety
improvements.
As
a
result
of
that
those
safety
improvements
will
be
broken
up
into
the
short-term
improvements.
These
are
really
quick,
hitting
things
that
you've
been
done
to
immediately
address
safety.
We've
committed
to
designing
constructing
each
of
the
short-term
improvements
at
that
intersection,
so
that
it'll
have
an
immediate
benefit
in
terms
of
operations.
I
had
mentioned
that
the
city
is
also
has
plans
of
redesigning
spruce
street.
M
M
These
are
specific
measures
that
we
will
implement
as
a
part
of
the
project
and
they're
all
designed
to
encourage
use
of
public
transportation
so
for
making
sure
that
we
have
a
transportation
facilitator
that
will
be
the
go
between
between
the
city,
the
employees
and
any
of
the
the
transit
agencies
that
are
in
the
area.
They
will
facilitate
a
ride,
matching
program
so
essentially
carpooling
for
the
employees.
So,
as
a
new
employee,
you
put
your
name
on
a
list.
M
If
you
want
a
carpool,
you
say
where
you
live
and
then
the
transportation
coordinator
will
match
up
to
encourage
carpooling
to
the
project
site,
providing
information
about
what's
available
in
terms
of
public
transportation
services
in
the
area
providing
specific
amenities
within
the
project
site.
The
restaurant
is
an
amenity
because
you
can
go
downstairs
and
get
a
meal
lunch
dinner,
whatever
it
happens
to
be,
but
there's
other
things
within
the
project
site,
direct
deposit
of
paychecks
providing
a
break
room.
We
do
have
pedestrian
accommodations
within
the
project
site.
M
So,
as
you
look
at
the
design
of
the
project,
it
does
embrace
connectivity
to
the
sidewalk
infrastructure.
We
are
providing
both
secure
interior
bicycle
parking,
as
well
as
exterior
bicycle
parking,
which
we'll
work
on
with
the
city.
The
last
thing
is
a
transit
screen
that
you
might
be
familiar
with
so
in
the
lobby
of
the
building
is
actually
a
just.
It's
television
screen
that
television
screen
you
subscribe
to
a
service
and
the
transit
screen
service,
and
what
that
does.
M
Is
it
tells
you
when
the
next
silver
line
train
is
coming
when
the
next
bus
is
coming?
The
idea
of
that
is,
basically,
if
it's
snowing
or
raining,
you
can
sit
in
the
lobby.
Look
at
the
transit
screen
and
know
okay.
I
need
three
minutes
to
walk
to
the
silver
line.
Inclement
weather,
I'm
going
to
time
my
departure
so
that
I
can
meet
up
with
the
boss
or
meet
up
with
the
silver
line
service.
So
that's
something
that
will
be
installed
in
lobby.
I
think
that's
the
last
slide.
I
have
john
well.
N
If
we
can
skip
to
the
next
slide
and
talk
about
what
we're
proposing
and
how
it's
coming
together,
the
team
that
that
was
doing
the
design
and
construction
is
our
firm,
fishbrook
design,
the
architects
of
record
we're
doing
the
shell
and
core
we've
gathered
around
as
a
team,
with
considerable
expertise
in
the
research
and
development
and
bio
spheres.
Ci
design,
as
our
lab
consultants,
br,
plus
a
and
haze
and
o'neill,
have
a
long
history
in
in
this
sector
of
successful
projects.
N
Epm
is
our
code
consultant
who
helps
wrangle
the
pretty
considerable
requirements
of
of
how
to
handle
the
different
compounds
and
so
forth
that
are
used
in
the
building
as
doug
mentioned.
Dpr
is
our
construction
partner
and
again
this
is
another,
a
company
that
has
a
long
history,
doing
research
and
development
and
bio
lab
work
on
in
lincoln
properties
is
our
leasing
agent
that
are
helping
us
sort
of.
You
know
work
our
way
through
the
the
vagaries
of
the
the
leasing
market
in
in
eastern
massachusetts.
N
Next
slide,
thanks
so,
but
by
the
numbers
that
the
the
building
is
is
going
to
be
leed
certified
it's
about
390
thousand
square
feet,
total
286
square
feet
of
leasable
space.
It
will
we're
proposing
11
stories,
the
construction,
conceptual
construction
cost
provided
by
dpr's,
267
million
dollars
buildings
of
this
sort.
We
expect
to
be
between
600
and
700
dollars
per
square
feet
and
and
our
control
estimate
for
the
concept
phases
can't
come
in
right
sort
of
on
on
the
money.
So
we're
very
pleased
for
for
that.
N
N
N
I
like
to
point
out
this
map,
shows
the
kendall
square
area
in
cambridge,
which
is
sort
of
the
sizzly
hot
r
d
area
in
the
northeast,
and
our
density
of
transportation
options
is,
is
significantly
greater
than
theirs
and
you
know
really:
we've
got
sort
of
a
magic
confluence
of
of
those
those
amenities.
So
next.
N
Slide
and
and
we've
seen
this
slide
several
times,
so
I
won't
linger
too
much
on
the
transportation
or
other
building
amenities,
but
to
say
that
our
site
is
in
an
interesting
location
in
the
the
sort
of
context
of
chelsea.
What
we
see
is
is
that
it's
it's
really
sort
of
on
a
a
seam
between
the
the
denser,
more
hilly
and
traditionally
residential
addison
and
orange
neighborhoods,
and
it's
really
sort
of
on
the
edge
of
that
area
and
that
type
of
topography
with
the
west.
N
The
broadway
west
neighborhood,
which
has
been
a
is
a
last
250
years,
a
really
interesting
urban
industrial
area.
It's
it's
really
driven
the
economy
of
chelsea,
it's
undergone
pretty
dramatic
transformations
and
it's
undergoing
yet
another
transformation,
and
we
would
like
to
continue
seeding
that
and
so
we're
in
a
place
where
we
have
two
different
types
of
density,
two
different
types
of
context
and
so
we're
looking
at
the
existing
context.
N
I
think
we
can
go
on
to
the
next
slide,
so
looking
again
at
the
site
in
three
dimensions.
You
know
it's
really
along
this
stretch
of
route.
1
there's
is
a
pretty
significant
sort
of
chelsea
identifier
in
in
this
area
that
the
fbi
building
is
is
sort
of
new
and
iconic.
The
the
high
school
is
is
always
been
sort
of
an
icon
for
me,
and
we've
got
really
sort
of
a
vibrant
growing
area
here
and
our
our
building
is
going
to
sort
of
nestle
right
into
to
that
area.
N
The
slide
illustrates
just
how
either
one
is
fine
is
how
awkward
this
site,
the
shape
of
the
site,
is,
which
you
know
buildings
like
to
be
rectangles.
This
is
just
sort
of
the
most
efficient
way
to
do
buildings
and
what
we've
got
is
sort
of
an
oblong,
oblong
kind
of
fat,
squarish
building
with
some
angles,
and
so
it's
it's
difficult
to
build
efficiently
here,
so
that,
and
also
the
the
parking
garage
is
difficult
to
sort
of
lay
out,
given
this
type
of
geometry.
So
it's
just.
N
In
that
way,
what
we'll
we'll
do
is
sort
of
create
green
space
from
those
public
transportation
nodes
really
right
down
to
the
intersection
in
the
high
school
past,
our
building
and
and
sort
of
reclaim
some
green
space
in
that
way,
and
we
can
go
to
the
next
one
in
in
plan.
You
see
that
laid
out
here
as
sort
of
a
hook
of
green.
That's
our
intention
for
the
privilege
of
building
on
this
site.
N
We
see
here
is
our
floor
plan
superimposed
on
the
site
and
the
main
occupant
entry
is,
is
in
on
everett
ave.
The
restaurant
enters
it
from
there
as
well.
We
have
one
two,
three
loading
docks
and
utility
areas
off
of
beach
street.
We
have
another
utility
area
off
of
everett
ave
where
trash
is
removed
and
then
parking
enters
on
everett
ave
as
well.
N
N
And
the
idea
is
with
a
repetitive
set
of
plantings
like
this.
We
would
pick
up
on
what
what
we're
imagining
at
this
stage
is
a
series
of
vertical
elements
on
the
exterior
of
the
building,
so
that
the
the
plantings
not
only
provide
additional
green
space
and
return
oxygen
to
the
atmosphere
and
so
forth.
But
they
work
with
the
design
of
the
building.
N
Well,
it
turns
out
to
be
parking:
decks
are
kind
of
a
different
floor
to
floor
height
than
the
rest
of
them,
and
this
is
the
fifth
floor
by
the
numbers,
taking
a
look
at
the
building
from
from
everett
ave
and
again
very
early
days.
We
call
this
concept
design
where
we've
we've
gone
through
and
addressed
the
site
constraints
and
the
programmatic
needs
of
the
building
and
put
together,
basically
a
space
diagram
that
works
financially
and
works
with
the
site
constraints.
N
How
we
develop
that
is,
is
really
a
process
that
we're
involved
in
at
the
moment-
and
you
know
so-
we've
established
sort
of
a
series
of
of
themes
that
we're
working
with
and
we'll
continue
developing
the
the
building
is
a
speculative
research
and
development
building.
Okay,
so
it's
not
being
built
for
a
company,
it's
being
built
to
attract
companies,
there's
three
different
sizes
of
spaces
available,
large,
medium
and
small.
N
You
can
rent
very
small
increments
of
of
research,
space
and
and
attending
office
space
for
one
or
two
persons
who
are
just
you
know
startups
with
seed
money
as
their
ideas
grow
and
their
funding
grows.
They
may
need
2
000
to
10
000
square
feet.
We've
got
a
middle
range
option
that
serves
tenants
of
that
sort,
and
we
also
feel
like
there's
a
strong
market
for
30
000
square
foot
single
floor.
N
The
parking
decks
are
raised
up
above
the
ground
floor,
so
ground
floor
is
occupied
by
humans
and
second,
third
and
fourth
levels.
With
a
shorter
florida,
floor,
height
are
occupied
by
vehicles
and
it
sort
of
creates
what
we
call
a
tutu
around
the
middle
of
the
building
that
that's
kind
of
wider
than
the
rest,
and
you
see
the
the
rest
of
the
building
is
set
back
from
that
that
tutu.
N
We
can,
let's
see,
let's,
let's
flip
through
another
couple
of
of
slides
and
then
I'll
I'll
wrap
it
up
in
the
interest
of
of
time,
and
so
we
we
see
from
from
route
one
that
the
the
building
is
like,
like
the
fbi,
bi
building
just
by
its
sheer
mass
in
these
early
days
of
how
it's
going
to
be
clad,
it
is
going
to
sort
of
take
its
place
as
a
gateway
icon
in
in
in
chelsea.
If
we
can
go
to
the
next.
N
It's
a
15-foot
florida
floor
and
what
we've
been
able
to
do
is
get
the
amount
of
leasable
area
that
we
need
to
to
make
the
project
feasible
into
a
building
that
gauges
itself
by
the
parapet,
height
of
the
fbi,
building,
and
so
really.
What
we're
able
to
do
is
is
offer
a
pair
of
buildings
that
sort
of
create
this
iconic
gateway.
N
Right
so
mechanical
space
on
both
buildings
is
is
accounted
for
separately
than
than
the
building
height
quote,
unquote
right,
and
so
you
know
their
mechanical
space
projects
up
above
that
parapet,
as
does
ours,
but
you
know
the
the
bulk
of
the
building.
We
really
are
working
hard
to
gauge
it
to
the
existing
building
adjacent.
N
The
the
last
piece
that
I
I
want
to
point
out
is
is
that
you
know
that
the
site
is
is
a
unique
shape
site
with
with
some
funky
challenges
as
a
result.
But
what
it
does
is
in
in
this
sort
of
below
the
beacon
element
in
the
main
front
entry,
the
building
kind
of
leans
in
towards
the
street,
and
we're
taking
advantage
of
that
in
order
to
create
an
entryway.
N
N
H
F
F
We
all
know
that
there's
a
lack
of
sort
of,
I
don't
say,
lack
of
education,
but
a
lack
of
a
lack
of
connectiveness
between
what's
available
to
scientists
and
what
they're
actually
sort
of
learning
in
the
classroom.
And
by
that
I
mean
what
opportunities
they
have.
I
I've
talked
to
numerous
educators.
They
don't
even
know
that
by
these
sort
of
biology-based
companies
exist.
So
in
general,
scientists
want
to
collaborate
with
people
who
are
interested
in
being
scientists
and
they
would.
F
F
The
second
thing
that
we've
been
talking
about
and
again
this
these
these
are
just
conversations,
but
when
we
were
talking
with
the
superintendent
last
week,
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
really
like
to
do
is
work
with
some
local
companies
and
create
a
room
in
the
building,
that's
specific
for
chelsea,
so
that
it
doesn't
matter
whether
or
not
any
of
these
companies
decide
they
want
to
work
with
them.
I
believe
that
they
will,
but
we
want
to
have
a
room.
F
That's
sort
of
almost
like
the
the
high
school
kids
can
come
over
at
any
time
and
they
can
do
experiments
and
they
can
do
things
that
way
and
actually
learn
sort
of
hands-on
learning,
as
opposed
to
just
reading
it.
In
a
book
the
superintendent
told
us,
our
daughter
is
a
scientist
and
her
biggest
issue
with
going
to
class
was
well.
All
I'm
doing
is
reading
about
what
a
microscope
is,
and
I
take
a
test
and
I
write
down
what
it
is
I'd
like
to
use
one.
H
F
Yeah
so
I
mean,
obviously,
we
can't
tell
the
specific
companies
who
rent
from
us
that
they
who
they
have
to
hire.
We
do
want
to
sort
of
bring
that
collaboration
with
the
local
community.
I
think,
if
you
know
if,
if
these
students
who
are
you
know,
learning
next
door
come
over
and
have
these
conversations
and
they
have
a
mentorship
or
an
internship
with
these
companies,
it
will
give
them
a
very
good
sort
of
leg
up
to
just
sort
of
continuing
in
with
the
company.
There
are
also
non-science
jobs
in
this
building
right.
F
F
Obviously
we
focused
on
the
science
part
of
this
building
tonight,
but
we
didn't
talk
a
ton
about
that,
but
there
is
a
huge
draw
of
different
types
of
jobs
and
those
will
be
available.
I
mean
again
as
the
management
company
would
we'll
be
offering
that
to
anybody,
and-
and
so
I
think,
that's
where
you
can
bring
in
both
science
and
non-science
jobs.
F
So
we're
the
we're
gonna
be
the
owner
developer.
We
will
hire
in
so
the
the
company
that
we
showed
on
here-
lincoln
property
company.
They
are
a
leasing
and
management
company.
So
a
building
of
this
size,
you're
gonna,
need
a
professional
management
company
right.
I
I
don't
manage
buildings
the
size.
H
F
No,
I
think
I
I
think
the
the
management
company
will
be
there
to
run
the
day-to-day.
I
think
as
a
this
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
I'm
moving
into
this
industry.
I
think
there
is
a
sort
of
a
disconnect
between
ownership
and
development
and
the
science
community,
and
so
it's
not
just
I'm
a
developer,
and
I
want
to
do
this.
F
I
my
partner,
khadija
and
I
we've
been
having
this
conversation
with
a
lot
of
our
colleagues
in
the
science
world
for
some
time
now
and
that's
one
of
the
biggest
disconnects
is
developers
are
coming
in,
but
they
don't
understand
what
the
science
community
really
wants,
so
we
will
stay
involved
right.
I.
F
E
F
F
E
G
A
D
L
I'll
take
that
so
right
now
we
have
a
site:
that's
100
paved
it's
open
to
the
sky.
It's
sanded,
it's
salted,
we're
getting
total
suspended
solids
and
all
sorts
of
things
that
are
heading
into
the
municipal
drainage
system
by
building
a
building
on
it.
Now,
what
water
is
it?
That's
going
to
drain
into
the
drainage
system?
It's
going
to
be
roof,
runoff
that
doesn't
get
contaminated
or
mixed
up
with
those
different
things.
L
E
G
N
We
have
sun
control
or
solar
devices
that
are
going
to
help
take
the
burden
off
the
mechanical
systems.
It's
an
all-electric
building,
one
from
the
top
of
my
head
here,
the
sort
of
low-hanging
fruit
that's
going
to
show
up
on
the
the
list
as
we
started
off,
is
and
say:
let's
what
else
I
mean
it
goes
on
from
there.
We've
got
bicycle
facilities
and
okay.
N
C
C
You
know
arguments
about
the
awkwardness
of
the
plot
of
the
the
plot
that
I
mean
you
know
that
going
in
you
know
what
the
plot
looks
like.
You
know
what
the
city's
building
codes
and
ordinances
are,
and
yet
you
are
seeking
relief
from
every
single
one
I've
I
we've
had
other
applications
doing
the
same
thing
I
find
that
arrogant.
C
C
B
F
F
F
Like
yes,
we've
talked
a
lot
about
transportation
here
tonight
and
the
transportation
nodes
that
are
within
this.
The
radius
of
this
building.
I
would
love
to
propose
a
building
that
has
no
parking
deck,
but
we
nobody
standing
here
sitting
here,
can
even
say
that
that's
feasible
right,
because
as
much
as
I
can
stand
here
and
say,
scientists
would
prefer
not
to
drive.
F
There
are
people
that
are
going
to
live
in
the
north
shore,
the
south
shore,
the
western
part
of
the
state
who
are
going
to
work
in
this
building
and
not
everybody's
going
to
want
to
live
at
the
bureau
apartments.
So
my
best
answer
to
you
is
this
is
what
allows
us
to
make
the
building
work,
as
well
as
the
community
involvement
that
we
think
is
important.
There
are
things
that
we
want
to
allow
the
community
to
use
at
zero
cost
to
the
community.
F
One
of
the
other
things
that
I
did
not
mention
is
our
construction
partner
dpr.
They
have
a
an
internship
program
that
any
high
school
student
that
would
want
to
be
involved
in
with
them
could
from
the
start
of
the
construction
of
this
project.
All
the
way
through
the
end
can
be
part
of
that.
So
I
think
that,
although
I
I
hear
what
you're
saying
I
think
we
have
thought
this
through
the
best
that
we
can
and
we
are
proposing
the
building.
C
F
I
think
it
makes
it
more
challenging.
I
think
I
I
think
the
building
can
still
be
built,
but
there
will
be
there
will
have
to
be
some
give
and
take
right.
We
can't
just
start
cutting
off
the
floors
off
the
top
of
this
building,
because
that's
where
the
the
companies
are
going
to
be
right,
that's
where
the
revenue
generating
space
is
going
to
come
from
the
the
parking
structure
is
just
going
to
be
built.
That's
a
cost
to
the
development
team
that
you
don't
really
get
to
create
revenue
from.
F
Yes,
companies
are
going
to
want
to
park
there,
but
we're
not
going
to
be
charging
them
for
that.
So
if
we
start
bringing
the
building
down,
it's
going
to
affect
multiple
aspects
of
this
building
right,
it
may
shrink
the
size
of
the
restaurant.
It
may
cause
us
to
remove
the
the
community
assembly
space
on
the
first
floor,
because
we
need
to
put
some
lab
space
on
the
first
floor
instead
of
putting
it
upstairs.
F
So
we
tried
to
to
really
think
about
providing
what
we
believe
is
very
beneficial
to
the
surrounding
community
and
that's
why
we
propose
the
the
amount
of
parking
and
the
amount
of
lab
space.
But
if
we
start
cutting
fours
off
the
top,
that's
where
all
the
lab
space
is
right,
so
that
there's
going
to
have
to
be
a
little
like.
I
said,
a
little
bit
of
give
and
take
if
we
start
doing
those
and
so
yeah.
K
C
C
F
Okay
and
and
again
I
I
hear
everything
you're
saying
and
I
just
want
to
add
a
couple
of
other
things.
You
know:
we've
had
multiple
conversations
with
the
fire
department
and
talked
about
setbacks,
and
things
like
that,
and
you
know,
according
to
the
conversations
our
design
team
has
had
with
them.
This
is
something
that
they
are
okay
with
as
well.
E
C
A
I
A
F
Are
so
and
and
again,
I'm
I'm
listening
and
I'm
and
we
want
to
work
with
the
city
like
we
we've
before
we
submitted
this
application.
We
we
sat
down
with
many
people
in
different
roles
in
the
city
and
had
these
conversations
and
had
a
lot
of
back
and
forth.
This
wasn't
something
we
just
slapped
in
an
application
and
got
in
front
of
you.
So
we
we
are
happy
to
have
these
conversations.
F
H
F
I
think
we
can,
I
think
we
can.
We
can
create
space
specifically
for
the
community.
I
think
that
that's
something
we
can
absolutely
do
again
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
all
work
at
specific
companies
right
and
I
can't
go
to
your
company
and
tell
them
they
have
to
do
something,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is:
if
you
talk
to
scientists
right,
I'm
one
of
them.
There
are
others
in
this
room.
We
this
will
happen
but
you're
right.
F
F
E
H
E
F
And
that's
what
and
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we
started
having
these
conversations,
we
we've
had
a
few
meetings
with
leo
councilman
robinson
and
again.
We
we've
already
met
with
the
superintendent
we've
taken
these
steps
already,
because
we
understand
what
you're
talking
about.
We
know
that
it's
not
just
hey
this
building
gets
approved
and
everything's
going
to
be
great
right.
F
We
we
have
to
be
able
to
find
out
what
the
the
community
really
needs,
because
again,
what
I
think
the
scientists
need
could
be
completely
different
from
what
the
superintendent
or
anybody
in
this
room
thinks.
So
I
I'm
with
you
on
this
and
I
think
it
is
a
communication
that
needs
to
to
continue,
but
I
think
it
can
be
done.
I
think
I
I
I
don't
know
I'm
the
type
of
person
who
thinks
if
we
just
talk
about
it,
and
we
have
these
conversations
we
can.
We
can
make
things
happen.
F
I
mean
it's,
that's
fine,
but
we
have
to
be
willing
to
have
those
conversations
and
that's
sort
of
what
I'm
we're
here,
for
we
want
to
to
be
involved
in
the
community.
It's
not
we're
not
here.
Just
to
talk
about
this,
I
think
it's
important.
I
you
know
one
of
the
things
I
even
talked
to
the
superintendent
about
was
you
know,
sitting
down
with
the
science
teachers
and
talking
about
how
education,
how
I
would
like
to
have
been
educated
as
a
as
a
science
student.
F
N
N
N
We
currently
walk
across
a
a
parking
lot
or
walk
in
front
of
a
parking
lot
with
cars
coming
and
going
and
a
building
set
back
and
you
sort
of
look
across
the
sea
of
cars
and
and
proceed
onto
a
gas
station,
and
so
that's
currently
what
we're
we're
working
with.
As
as
context-
and
you
know
what
we're
seeing
as
a
streetscape
here-
is
much
more
vibrant,
with
a
much
less
sort
of
negative
impact
in
the
building.
N
And
yeah
that
this
is
an
option
that
that's
live
and
in
in
our
conversations.
What
we
found
is
is
that,
in
terms
of
the
the
circulation
space
and
the
turning
radius
and
the
travel
zones
that
you
need
to
get
to
those
devices,
you
still
have
space
problems
and
the
the
geometry
of
the
site
and
the
size
of
the
site
remains
constraining
and
the
other
thing
is
those
for
the
cost.
Those
systems
don't
reduce.
The
amount
of
you
know,
don't
don't
vastly
increase
the
amount
of
cars
that
you
can
pack
into
an
area.
N
E
N
It
you
know
we
came
to
this
with.
You
know:
a
deliberate
approach.
This
was
not
our
first
choice
to
to
put
a
parking
garage
above
the
ground
floor
and
have
it
go
lot
line
to
lot
line
at
all?
It's
actually.
It's
quite
a
a
challenge,
design
wise
to
work
with
that
piece,
but
it's
it's
it's
simply
the
geometry
of
parking
cars
in
as
many
cars,
as
you
know,
we
think,
is
necessary
to
make
the
building
work.
B
E
N
E
N
B
B
B
N
N
Well,
so
it
we
can,
we
can
go
to
a
a
floor,
a
plan
of
of
the
parking
deck
and
yeah,
let's
just
because
you
can
yeah
there's
a
there's
a
stairway
at
at
the
back,
and
I
think
if
we
forward
we'll
see,
I
know
yeah.
If
you
continue
in
the
other
direction,
john
we'll
get
deeper,
there's
a
whole
series
of
building
floor
plans
at
the
end.
N
G
N
N
Yeah,
so
on
on
everdave,
if
sorry
john,
to
keep
going
back
and
forth
like
this,
if
we
could
go
to
the
site
plan
that
has
got
the
ground
floor
plan
yeah,
so
there
is
parking
entrance
and-
and
here
is,
is
loading
dock
that
that
has
trash
so
off
to
the
you
know,
we've
got
main
entrance
here:
we've
got
restaurant
entrance
here,
we've
got
the
storefront
and
so
forth,
which
which
is
the
conference
area
and
then
sort
of
off
to
the
side.
Here
are
those
utility
areas.
N
I
mean
the
the
ground
floor
is
is
ripe
for
for
for
setting
back
yeah.
The
the
the
real
difficulty
we
have
is
is
getting
the
radiuses
in
the
parking
spaces
and
the
parking
deck
above
that
that's
going
to
be
the
big
challenge
that,
if,
if,
if
it's,
if
it's
a
matter
of
of
creating
more
space
at
the
street
level,
I
think
that's
potentially
a
really
interesting
design
approach.
Yeah
we'd
be
very
happy
to
consider
that.
N
A
A
Well,
one
of
the
sizes
of
the
parking
spaces,
because
they,
the
board,
is
going
if
the
board
votes
to
prove
this,
they
need
to
vote
to
approve,
not
this
board
these
eba.
They
have
to
list
all
the
relief
you
need.
So
I
need
to
know
if
you
need
relief
for
the
parking
spaces
or
not
okay,
landscaping
plan
a
copy
was
forwarded,
so
yeah
exterior
lighting
plan
signage
plan.
I
have
a
whole
list
of
them
that.
N
A
N
Okay,
because
because
in
terms
of
sight,
lighting
and
the
parking
spaces
and
so
forth,
and
and
you
know
when
we
use
the
list
in
putting
the
presentation
together,
we
can
run
through
each
of
those
issues
and
point
them
out.
If
you
like.
So
we
can,
let's
forward,
go
through
forward
with
the
next
slides
and
continue
so
we'll
first
address
signage
and
exterior
lighting,
and
so
we
want
to
continue
on
to
the
elevations.
A
A
This
is
not
a
plan;
this
is
not
a
site
plan.
A
sign
plan
is
a
separate
sheet
that
actually
indicates
what
the
sign
looks
like
the
materials,
the
thick,
the
thickness,
the
width.
If
it
isn't
extended
off
the
side,
this
does
not
do
it.
Okay,
all
right,
okay
same
for
the
lighting,
this
does
not
do
it.
I
know
you're
showing
them,
but
those
are
not
signed,
plans
that
this
board
usually
receives.
Okay,.
B
A
Yeah
you
have
two
votes.
One
is
to
recommend
action
to
the
zba.
The
other
is
an
action
on
the
site
plan.
Your
options
for
the
site
plan
are
to
approve,
approve
conditions
or
deny.
Technically
you
can't
deny
it,
but
you
just
have
to
list
what
the
site
plan
would
have
to
what
they
would
have
to
provide
on
the
site
plan
in
order
for
it
to
pass,
or
you
could
continue
a
pending
receipt
of
additional
information.
If,
if
you
feel
more
is
needed
same
for
the
recommendation,.
C
I
will
make
the
motion
that
we
continue
this
to
the
june
meeting
pending
receipt
of
the
responses
to
the
outstanding
questions.
I
would
also
like
to
add
to
that.
You
know
if
we
I
mean
I
know
a
month
is
rather
fast,
but
it
would
also
be
useful
to
see
some
rendering
of
a
smaller
scale,
with
the
setback
and
reduced
to
eight
stories.