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From YouTube: Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting of 8-9-22
Description
City of Chelsea
A
This
is
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
for
august
9
2022.
I
am
joined
here
by
the
members
of
the
board.
You
go
perdomo
joe
mahoney
marilyn
vega
torres
and
arthur
arsenault,
also
john
depriest
and
hector
velez,
and
I
am
janice
tatarca.
There
are
a
couple
of
things
that
we're
going
to
be
taking
out
of
order
today,
simply
because
they're,
quick
and
we're
going
to
be
moving
them
and
then
we'll
go
back
to
the
top
of
the
agenda.
A
The
first
thing
is
275
washington,
ave,
margulin
grace
has
been
moved
to
the
9
13
22
board
meeting.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
move
that
made
by
joe
second
bye,
all
in
favor
and
now
we're
joined
by
joan
conwell
too,
as
well
they're,
all
in
favor
aye,
so
the
second
one
we're
moving
is
2022
30,
hillside,
ave,
jay,
duka,
also
moving
to
the
9
13
22
zba
meeting.
Do
I
have
a
motion
joe?
A
A
We're
now
going
to
go
back
to
the
top
of
the
agenda
and,
if
you're
here
for
any
of
those
again
they'll
be
we'll
be
back
here
on
the
13th
of
oh,
my
gosh
of
september
2022-11,
156
chamomile
street,
juan
gallego
for
special
permit
invariant,
seeking
approval
for
the
demolition
of
a
three-family
residential
structure.
A
Excuse
me
where,
where
have
ple,
please
sit
down.
Thank
you.
So
I
know
mr
gallego
cannot
be
here
today,
he's
being
represented
by
council.
Would
you
like
to
talk
with
us?
Give
us
an
update
on
what's
going
on
and
formal,
please
a
formal
introduction
for
the
for
the
record.
B
David
mindlin,
representing
mr
gallego,
mr
gallego,
is
in
colombia
on
a
rotary
mission
at
the
present
time
doing
cleft
palate
surgery,
so
he's
he's
doing
his
usual
good
work
in
the
world.
B
B
C
Board
recommended
approval
with
a
following
conditions:
standing
conditions,
as
applicable
design
review
by
permitting
lyn
use,
will
require
a
payment
into
the
community
improvement.
Trust
fund
occupants
of
the
fourth
unit
will
be
eligible
to
obtain
resident
sticker
parking
passes
and
a
trash
be
stored
in
the
rear
of
the
house
will
not
block
access
from
a
walkway.
B
A
Okay,
this
is
still
a
public
first.
Let
me
ask
if
the
board
has
any
questions,
if
not
I'm
going
to
open
it
again
to
the
public.
D
D
Please
I
just
want
to
confirm
that
there's
two
points
of
egress
can.
B
No
in
the
back
on
the
revised
plans-
I'm
sorry-
I
can't
really
see
it
from
here.
There's.
B
B
A
D
A
This
is
still
a
public
hearing.
This
will
be
our
last
opportunity
to
speak
on
this.
If
you're
so
inclined
is
there.
Anyone
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
matter
and
anybody
who
wishes
to
speak,
has
to
come
up
and
use
the
microphone
please,
okay,
so
anyone
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
there
being
none.
I
am
closing
the
public
portion
of
this
hearing.
Sir,
would
you
like
to
walk
through
the
variance
issues
for
us
with,
because
you
know
that
that
is
since
this
is
a
variance,
you
must
meet
each
of
the
four
requirements.
A
A
A
B
B
F
B
Well,
any
literal
enforcement
of
the
provisions.
First
of
all,
it's
virtually
impossible
in
this
situation
because
it
is
an
existing
non-conforming
use.
In
addition,
one
of
the
reasons
mr
gallego
wants
to
do
this
is
to
improve
the
building
and
in
order
to
do
that,
to
sprinkler
the
entire
building
and
just
to
upgrade
it
in
general.
He
needs
this
extra
unit
financially,
and
it
just
makes
for
a
a
better
project.
B
Well
again,
this
is
a
fairly
typical
building
for
the
neighborhood
apartment.
Buildings
are
allowed
a
lot
of
three
families:
multi-family
houses
on
small
lots,
it's
very
close
to
public
transportation.
We've
already
discussed
the
requirement
of
well.
It
has
no
parking
to
begin
with,
so
it's
only
one
or
two
additional
spaces
that
would
be
required,
but
it
will
not
burden
the
neighborhood
at
all
and
the
expansion
fits
in
with
the
tenor
of
the
neighborhood
and.
B
And
again,
this
somewhat
overlaps
with
provision
c.
This
is
the
r2
district
which
allows
for
one
to
three
family
residents
as
well
as
apartment
buildings.
So
again
it
fits
in
with
the
neighborhood.
It
won't
substantially
burden
the
utilities
or
any
public
services,
and
it
will
benefit
the
inhabitants
of
the
city
by
increasing
the
availability
of
new
housing
with
a
nice
unit.
A
I
I
A
We
have
a
second
joe,
all
in
favor
aye
aye.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay,
okay,
we're
gonna
return,
what
our
board
member
and
we
are
going
to
be
moving
on
next
to
2022-14,
62,
washington,
ave,
bellingham
llc
for
special
permits
and
variances
seeking
approval
for
conversion
of
an
existing
residential
structure
from
a
seven
family
residential
structure
with
the
commercial
office
to
an
eight
family
residential
structure
which
does
not
meet
the
current
minimum.
Zoning
requirements
for
lot
area,
floor
area
ratio,
usable
open
space
and
off
street
parking.
B
A
There's
no
changes
in
the
building
here
right,
there's
just
it's
taking
a
former
business,
a
former
commercial
space
and
an
attempt
to
con
convert
it
to
a
residential
space.
Exactly.
B
B
C
Planning
board
recommended
approval
with
standing
conditions
and
with
a
condition
that
all
vestiges
of
the
business
side
be
removed,
pull
sign
everything
in
addition
to
that.
I'm
recommending
design
review
by
my
department
and,
according
with
the
ordinance
they'll,
have
to
make
a
payment
into
the
community
improvement
trust
fund
and
the
occupants
of
this
unit
will
not
be
able
to
be
eligible
to
obtain
resident
sticker
parking
passes.
Okay,.
B
C
The
community
improvement
trust
fund.
Yes,
it's
three
percent
of
the
maximum
bill
build
out
cost
and
it's
prorated
based
on
the
amount
of
relief
you
get.
A
A
Go
one
at
a
time:
let's
do
just
so
we
can
read
them
for
the
record.
I
just
want
to
read
them
formally
for
the
record,
I'm
going
to
read
it
formally
for
the
record
again.
Just
so,
even
though
you've
just
gone
through
them,
I'm
going
to
read
them
again
sure
the
variance
is
sought
because
of
soil
conditions,
shape
or
topography
of
such
land
or
structure,
and
especially
affecting
such
lander
structures,
but
not
affecting
generally.
The
zoning
districts
in
which
is
located.
B
Okay,
so
again,
the
project
does
not
involve
any
changes
to
the
exterior
of
the
building
not
to
the
height
to
the
footprint
or
anything
else.
This
building
for
those
of
you
who
are
familiar
with
it,
sits
it's
right
on
washington
avenue.
It
sits
on
top
of
the
slope
which
leads
down
parallel
to
the
greenway
there's
a
long
shared
driveway,
leading
to
the
parking
lot
at
the
rear
of
the
building.
That's
shared
with
the
abundant
property
at
64
washington
avenue
by
virtue
of
an
easement
that
and.
B
So
the
problem
is,
as
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation,
this
office
is
not
being
used.
There
hasn't
been
any
any
interest
in
anyone
renting
the
office
and
right
now,
it's
absolutely
unproductive
space.
By
adding
this
unit
right
on
public
transportation,
just
outside
the
downtown
area
in
an
area,
that's
really
becoming
revitalized
would
be
productive.
I
mean
to
let
it
sit
there
and
be
unproductive
is
is
just
not
working
for
the
owners
at
this
point
and
that
creates
the
financial
hardship.
A
B
A
A
G
A
A
I'm
thinking
of
taking
2217
next
I
was
thinking
we
might
want
to
take
2217
bloomingdale
street
next,
simply
because
it's
a
vote
and
that
2215
we're
not
going
to
be
deciding
on
today
and
I
think
it'll
be
longer.
So
is
everybody
comfortable
with
us
taking
that
out
of
order?
Yes,.
J
A
We're
going
to
take
20,
22,
17,
120,
bloomingdale
street,
andrea,
garcia
for
special
permits
and
variances
seeking
approval
for
the
increase
in
the
non-conformity
of
the
structure
due
to
the
location
of
the
proposed
edition
within
the
required
front
yard
setback.
Could
you
please
identify
yourself
for
the
record.
A
A
C
Board
recommended
approval
with
applicable
standing
conditions,
okay,.
K
Well,
the
issue
was
that
this
is
the
front
entrance
of
the
home,
the
existing
foyer,
and
what
happened
was
that
right
underneath
this
is,
I
have
a
bathroom
like
a
like
a
full
bathroom
right
underneath
this,
where
you
see
the
concrete
steps
and
the
entrance
and.
K
Right
and
in
february
we
actually
had
a
big
leak.
It
was
right
after
it
was
snowing
and
there
was
a
lot
of
rain
and
all
that
and
the
ceiling
right
where
you
this
is
the
shower,
and
this
is
the
image
of
the
bathroom.
The
ceiling
of
the
shower
was
bulging,
because
water
was
just
accumulating.
K
It
was
accumulating.
Somehow
water
was
seeping
through
the
front
entrance.
Once
we
uncovered
the
floor,
all
the
plywood
everything
was
brought
in
the
there
was
basically
the
joists
were
just
added
on.
They
were
like
pieced
together,
it
wasn't
even
done
to
code
at
all,
and
then
this
is
what
we
saw
whenever
we
uncovered
all
that
we
removed
the
foyer.
So
it
was
a.
It
was
two
feet
by
three
feet
wide
by
two
feet
out
so
now
what
we
did
was
because
I
already
did
it.
I
had
spoken
to
a
building
inspector.
K
He
told
me
to
he
told
me
to
go
ahead
with
it,
but
us
thinking
that
it
might
not
be
a
big
issue,
but
everything
was
rotten
like
I
said
it
was
not
done
to
code
that
concrete
slab
had
no
support
nothing.
It
was
porous
underneath
whenever
we
uncovered
the
whenever
we
chipped
through
the
concrete
and
then
this
is
the
outcome.
We
basically.
K
One
it's
just
a
small
little
space.
It
was
two
feet
wide.
That's
it
that
door
was
not
even
working,
it
was
like
even
the
inside
was
just
exposed
that
door
would
always
be
open.
So
all
of
that
little
plywood
that
was
there
on
the
floor
area
was
all
rotten
and
then,
if
we
go
back
to
the
other
pictures,
this
is
what
we
have
built,
which
is
a
lot
more
eye
appealing
and
also
it
covers
the
whole.
K
It
basically
gives
me
coverage
from
not
ever
having
that
issue
again
with
the
water
and
and
all
the
seeping
through,
and
I
still
have
to
do.
Landscaping
like
you
know,
on
the
on
the
sides
of
the
foyer,
but,
like
I
said
in
my
shower,
my
bathroom
is
right.
Underneath
this,
so
everything
was
rotten.
It
was
not
good
at
all.
A
A
K
And
I
apologize
for
that.
Yes,
but
but
yeah
we
found
like
I
said
it
was
also
snowing
in
that
time
and
raining
and
all
this
so
it
was
kind
of
we
had
to
think
fast.
I.
A
A
So
it
will
be
the
first
opportunity
we've
had
so
I
want
to
make
sure
there
are
questions,
any
questions
that
people
may
have
about
this
before
I
open
it
up
to
the
public
for
the
first
time
and
then
you're
gonna.
You
know
how
he
went
through
those
variants
things
earlier.
You're
gonna
have
to
do
the
same
thing.
Yes,.
D
D
K
K
F
There's
no
green
area
grass,
bushes.
F
K
K
Came
out
the
frame
right,
but
the
same
like
the
same
width,
I'm
trying
to
say
and
in
the
same
area,
because
if
I
the
three
feet
I
extended
was
concrete.
It
was
long
concrete
steps
that
snow
would
just
accumulate
in
ice
and
also
so.
K
I
just
went
yeah
and
these
are
the
green
areas
like
the
space
that
I
have
here.
I
have
the
same
space
on
the
both
left
and
right
of
it,
the
same.
A
Green
area,
she
added
further
to
her
non-conform
her
non-conformity.
Okay,
any
other
questions
before
I
open
it
up
to
the
public.
K
Yes,
so
this
house
is
a
little
it's
a
little
different,
so
my
unit
number
one
is
the
basement.
You
know
what
I
mean
like.
I
bought
it
as
a
three
family.
J
L
K
But
yeah
it's
a
little
weird.
You
can't
it's
the
tiniest
house
on
the
street.
Honestly,
I
don't
know,
but
it's
a
three
family.
Yes,.
A
A
A
A
So
that
you
can
look
at
them,
but
we
have
to
go
through
each
one
separately.
Okay,
this
variance
is
so,
and
the
variance
in
this
case
is
the
front
yard
setback.
Yes,
the
front
yard
setback
is
sought
because
of
soil
conditions,
shape
or
topography
of
such
land
or
structure,
but
not
in
it
that
basically
impacts
only
your
your
building,
but
not
the
general
area
of
not
the
general
zoning
district.
So
basically
tell
us
that
you
know
you,
you
needed
to
move
this
right
because
you
didn't
you.
A
K
K
K
The
structure
not
any
of
the
neighbors,
it's
not
in
the
way
or
anything
like
that,
guys.
A
A
little
a
literal
enforcement
of
this
would
involve
a
substantial
hardship,
financial
or
otherwise,
to
the
petition
or
applicant,
and
this
is
the
case
where
I'm
saying
make
you
take
it
down,
but
that
would
be
really
bad
for
you.
Yes,
no
so
tell
us
that
to
to
you
know
to
enforce
this
would
be
a
hardship
for
you.
Yes,.
K
It
would
definitely
be
a
hardship,
especially
money
and
time
put
into
it,
but
also
it's
if
I
left,
if
I
would
have
left
it
to
the
way
it
was,
I
would
have
kept
having
issues
and
as
of
now,
we
are
actually
remodeling
the
whole
unit
because
of
this
issue.
Whenever
we
you
know,
whenever
that
happened,
we
just
thought
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
just
fix
it
all
up,
which
I
do
have
permits
for
so.
A
A
D
A
A
John
talked
about
standard
conditions,
there
were
certain
conditions
that
have
to
be
met,
and
if
you
have
any
questions
about
them,
you
can
talk
to
john
or
hector
later,
but
that
there
are
pretty
standard
things
like
you
can't
put
lights,
you
can't
I
mean
they're,
just
certain
things
that
you
can't
do
and
they
don't
all
apply
to
you,
so
any
that
may
apply
will
be
applied
to
any
special
permit
or
variance
that
you
receive
okay,
and
you
can
ask
john
specifically
what
those
are
going
to
be
or
hector
what
those
are
going
to
be.
A
A
A
A
A
Is
a
letter
of
support
from
sandy
maynard?
It's
a
lot
of
support
for
cindy
maynard,
so
go
ahead.
Do
we
control
this
or
do
you
control
it?
John
john
well,
john,
will
take
care
of
it.
You
tell
him,
you
want
me
to
read.
L
A
M
Can
can
you
go
to
the
next
slide?
John
thanks,
so
I
just
want
to
start
off
by
reminding
you
that
this
project
has
actually
already
been
before
you
and
approved
twice
once
by
a
previous
owner
who,
who
you
approved
66
units
we
purchased
the
site
last
year
and
came
back
for
some
modifications
actually
make
the
building
a
little
smaller,
add
some
three-bedroom
units
and
to
convert
market
rate
units
to
apartments
today.
We're
here
for
two
reasons.
M
First
of
all,
the
original
permit
had
been
acted
on
by
a
building
permit
and
that
was
pulled
out
by
the
previous
owner's
architect.
So
we
need
we'd
need
to
renew
it,
and
second,
we've
made
one.
I
think
important
change.
That's
really
for
the
better
of
the
project.
We've
eliminated,
some
large
retaining
walls
we'll
show
you
which
will
result
in
significantly
more
open
space
and
a
reduction
in
parking.
Let
me
go
to
the
next
slide.
M
So
again,
I
think
you
all
know
where
this
is.
This
is
170
cottage
street.
It's
right
a
block
from
the
eastern
avenue
silver
line.
Stop.
Let
me
go
to
the
next
slide
and
this
is
again
another
zoomed
out
context
of
it.
We
can
go
to
the
next
slide
and
you
know
we'll
talk
about
this
next
time
when
you
ask
us
to
go
through
those
variances,
it's
right
next
to
to
the
silver
line
and
there's
some
significant
topography
as
you'll
see
in
the
next
two
photos.
M
So
this
is
looking
from
the
sort
of
northeast
of
the
sorry
south
east
of
the
site,
along
the
silver
line
and
the
chelsea
greenway.
Then
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
M
This
is
looking
from
bellingham
street
down
and
you
can
see
the
significant
grade
change
there.
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide
and
then
this
is
again
for
more
of
like
the
southeast
corner.
Looking
up
onto
those
homes
are
on
willow
street
and
that's
where
originally
we
had
had
a
large
or
originally
the
previous
owner
and
us
that
had
a
large
retaining
wall
for
a
driveway.
M
So
we
go
to
the
next
slide.
You
know
I
want
to
go
through
these
development
goals
quickly.
Obviously
tnd.
Our
goal
is
to
create
affordable
homes
for
families,
especially
along
the
silver
line
corridor,
where
we
can
provide
access
to
transportation,
jobs,
services
and
we
love
the
chelsea
greenway
and
having
families
have
access
to
that
organizationally.
We
really
want
to
build,
build
a
sustainable
and
energy
efficient
building,
we're
designing
it
to
passive
house
standards.
M
It'll
be
our
third
passive
house
project
in
chelsea
with
1005,
broadway
and
25
sixth
street,
and
this
is
a
really
great
opportunity
to
create
public
open
space
that
complements
the
open
space.
That's
already
there
on
the
greenway,
as
well
as
private,
open
space
for
the
families.
M
So
project
summary
this
hasn't
changed
the
top
part
66
apartments,
all
for
rent,
all
affordable,
12,
one
bedrooms,
43
two
bedrooms
and
11
three
bedrooms
so
really
geared
toward
families.
What
has
changed
is
the
amount
of
open
space.
You'll
remember.
The
original
application
will
go
through
this
needed,
a
variance
we're
now
providing
over
15
000
square
feet
of
open
space
and
a
large
public
park.
That's
sort
of
adjacent
to
the
greenway.
M
We
also
have,
as
we
do
in
all
of
our
projects,
a
community
room
for
use
at
the
residence-
that's
open
to
the
public
upon
reservation,
we're
going
to
be
planting
a
bunch
of
new
trees,
managing
some
of
this
open
space.
We're
really
excited
about
that.
M
There's
opportunities
for
public
art,
you
kind
of
see
that
we've
designed
into
the
into
the
landscape
plan
and
we'll
have
72
parking
spaces
for
cars
and
70
for
bicycles.
So
again
taking
advantage
of
the
greenway
and
the
connection
there.
M
Okay
and
again,
this
is
about
affordable
housing,
so
17
of
the
66
units
would
be
affordable
at
really
deep
incomes
to
folks
at
30
percent
of
the
area,
median
income
or
below,
and
the
other
49
will
be
at
60
percent
of
that
and
again
that's
about
84
for
a
thousand
for
a
family
of
four
and
as
always,
we'll
do
the
maximum
local
preference
allowed
by
law
we'll
apply
to
dhcd
for
the
full
70,
and
you
know,
we've
always
been
successful
in
getting
that.
M
You
know
we're
hoping
that
next
month,
we'll
have
that
you'll
approve
this
we're
intending
to
submit
a
second
application
of
dhcd
in
october,
which
is
great
oftentimes,
we're
successful
in
the
second
time,
and
that
would
allow
us
to
start
construction
next
fall
and
have
folks
in
in
early
2025.
great.
M
So
this
chart
just
sort
of
talks
about
the
original
relief
that
was
granted
and
how
our
our
first
proposal
changed
it
and
how
this
one
changes
it.
So
again,
the
parking
is
the
big
relief
and
we'll
talk
about
that
later.
105
are
required.
We're
proposing
72.
minimum
lot
area
hasn't
changed.
The
rear
guard
setback
we're
going
to
go
into
all
these
in
more
detail,
but
we
just
highlighted
the
three
that
have
changed
significantly
we'll
go
to
the
next
slide
and
then
these
relief
are
no
longer
requested.
M
M
Great
good
to
know,
okay-
and
you
know
I'm
sure,
we'll
go
over
this
next
time,
but
we,
you
know,
are
familiar
with
the
four
requirements
and
and
again
these
were
the
findings
that
that
this
board
already
had
for
this
project.
So
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
M
N
Hi
again,
I'm
cliff
bomer,
I'm
a
principal
at
davis
square
architects,
and
before
I
get
into
the
images
I
think
some
of
them
we
can
go
through
pretty
quickly.
I
did
want
to
emphasize
why
what
we
see
is
a
really
exciting
opportunity.
With
these
changes,
the
significant
increase
in
open
space
is
a
big
one.
So,
in
addition
to
providing
that
public
park
space,
the
there
is
significant
usable
open
space
in
the
inside
courtyard
of
that
building
that
wasn't
there
before.
N
For
the
most
part,
it
was
surface
parking
in
that
area
and
we
know
that
that
will
be
a
great
benefit
primarily
for
the
residents
of
the
building
and,
as
you
know,
happy
residents
lead
to
long
residency,
which
we
think
is
a
good
stabilizing
influence,
we're
also
by
the
elimination
of
the
driveway
on
the
left-hand
side,
which
is
the
west
side,
we've
increased
the
pervious
surface
on
the
area,
so
their
environmental
benefits
by
creating
more
open
space
that
isn't
built
over
or
paved
over.
When
you.
A
M
N
Thank
you
so,
in
addition
to
providing
a
lot
of
open
space
permeable
surface,
the
usable
open
space,
that's
within
the
courtyard,
while
that
is
the
roof,
that's
a
planted
roof.
So
you
don't
get
direct
infiltration
that
way,
it
does
give
us
the
capacity
to
control
the
rate
at
which
storm
water
would
ever
go
into
the
system.
So
from
an
environmental
perspective,
it's
a
really
big,
significant
change.
N
So,
having
said
that,
for
from
our
perspective,
that's
what
we're
most
excited
about
are
environmental
improvements,
as
well
as
major
amenity
enhancements
for
the
residents
of
the
building
where's.
N
Pardon
me
where's
the
parking
going.
The
parking
is
all
down
near
the
purple
space.
The
driveway
is
where
it
was.
We
had
a
driveway
there,
as
well
as
a
ramped
driveway
that
went
up
on
that
space
to
the
west,
so
we
had
outdoor
parking
and
an
elevated
level
as
well
as
parking
in
the
basement
of
the
building.
N
So
now
what
we've
done
is
expanded
the
basement
parking
so
that
all
of
the
spaces
now
are
underground
spaces.
Thank.
A
N
N
On
the
right
hand,
side
the
amount
of
paving
is
way
less
and
it's
we
think
it
uses
the
site
much
more
we're
able
to
maintain
much
more
of
the
existing
grades,
as
steve
pointed
out
in
order
to
build
the
driveway
to
climb
up
the
hill
to
go
under
the
building
to
get
to
that
surface
parking,
we
we
needed
to
build
some
really
big,
retaining
walls
and
I'll
point
out.
That
was
a
remnant
of
the
very
original
approved
design.
N
This
is
a
slightly
confusing
diagram,
but
the
red
lines
are:
what
are
they
required
setbacks
either
calculated
or
just
a
given
setback?
The
red
line
along
cottage
street
is
front
set
back.
We
have
the
rear
setback
that
is
along
bellingham
street,
that,
as
you
can
see,
the
there
are
two
lines,
because
the
14
foot
was
the
previously
approved
setback.
M
That's
the
that's.
The
set
20
feet
is
what's
required
there.
I
think
my
understanding
was
actually
a
request
of
this
board
in
the
original
hearings,
which
we
weren't
a
part
of
to
create
an
entrance
on
bellingham
street
and
a
connection
to
there.
So
I
think
I
actually
think
that
they
were
closer
than
14,
but
that's
what
was
approved
before
so
we're
actually
in
essentially
the
same
spot.
We
do
have
this
folded
facade
that
juts
out
about
18
inches
there.
M
A
Say
that
again
tell
me
what
tell
me
what
rem
I
kind
of
miss
that
so.
M
What
was
previously
approved
was
that
14
feet,
I'm
not
sure
that
that
was
accurate,
looking
at
what
they
submitted.
But
that's
what
is
on
the
record
and
where
we
proposed
set.
We
proposed
seven
sorry
in
the
original,
what
we
submitted
to
the
to
the
denial
set.
We
proposed
six
feet
three
inches
we've
since
sort
of
reviewed
that
and
we're
really
actually
going
to
seven
feet
two
inches,
but
we'll
we'll
keep
the
request
at
6'3.
That's
fine!
But
again
this
is
to
create
a
connection
to
bellingham
street.
M
M
We
are
asking
for
greater
relief
and
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
just
trying
to
clarify.
No,
that's
fine.
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
documentation
issue
and
the
other
place.
We're
asking
for
relief
is
because
the
underground
garage
is
actually
a
structure.
M
You'll
see
the
the
the
relief
required
here
is
or
the
side
setback
is
20
of
the
building
height.
So
our
side,
our
side
setback
would
be
11
6
and
the
garage
structure
which
is
underground
will
be
at
ten
six,
so
we're
within
that
setback.
But
again
it's
it's
because
the
parking
is
underground,
so
it
won't
impact,
it
won't
be
seen
or
felt,
or
impact
neighbors
and
our
neighbor
there
is
the
chelsea
greenway
mata
resident.
N
Okay,
so
back
to
some
images
in
this
image,
we're
looking
up
cottage
street,
the
language
that
we're
proposing
for
the
building
is
what
we
think
we
call
it
the
wave
sort
of,
but
what
we
see
it,
as
is
a
reference
to
the,
as
you
know,
in
chelsea,
very
common
to
have
angled
bays
that
articulate
facades
on
buildings
of
different
bays
of
different
heights.
This
building,
which
you
can't
tell
from
this
image
but
you'll,
see
in
a
minute.
There
are
actually
no
two
elevations
that
are
exactly
the
same
in
height.
N
N
The
west
side
is
is
a
four
story
to
three
story,
so
it's
a
very
complicated
relationship
with
the
site.
So
what
we've
tried
to
do
with
our
design
is
create
a
kind
of
reference
to
the
bays
that
come
in
and
out
that
create
a
kind
of
sculpted
surface
to
the
building.
But
if
they're
able
to
react
on
every
elevation,
regardless
of
how
high
it
is
and
how
it
relates
to
where
the
grade
is
the
materials
that
we're
proposing
for
the
angled
pieces
up
above
that
that
are
coming
in
and
out,
those
are
metal
panels.
N
N
Wonderful,
okay:
we
can
go
to
the
next
one
oops,
so
there's
a
view
right
where
county
street
intersects
the
multimodal
path.
That's
our
end,
elevation
stair
towers
to
the
right
and
you're
looking
right
up
cottage
street
as
it
rises
up.
This
is
the
five-story
elevation
I
was
referring
to
on
the
short
elevation,
which
is
the
east
side
of
the
building.
N
You'll
notice,
one.
You
notice
a
painted
area
on
the
low
side
of
the
building.
That's
a
retaining
wall
that
follows
very
closely
our
property
line.
We
have
a
kind
of
diagonal
property
line
and
for
us
it
creates
an
opportunity
for
public
art
in
that
space.
This
isn't
a
specific
proposal.
It's
just
letting
you
know
that
we
anticipate
being
able
to
use
that
for
art
exhibit
next
one.
N
N
A
Not
want
soccer
balls
near
the
windows,
you
might
not
want
soccer
balls
near
the
windows.
M
N
Okay,
so
in
this
image
I
think
what
you
can
see
here
is
what
I
was
explaining
about
the
complexity
of
the
site,
the
different
types
of
facades
that
present
themselves
depending
upon
the
direction,
we're
very
happy
that
along
bellingham,
it's
a
three-story
elevation
which
is
very
much
in
scale
of
the
other
buildings
and
actually
there.
Our
setback
that
we're
proposing
is
very
similar
to
other
buildings
on
bellingham.
N
So
we
think
we've
scaled
that
properly
the
apartment
building
across
the
street
from
us
on
cottage
is
actually
taller
than
our
building
is.
But
you
can
see
that
that
also
made
an
attempt
to
kind
of
sculpt
in
their
facade
by
those
curved
balconies
down
on
this
on
the
eastern
end
of
the
building
and
then
intermittent
balconies
along
the
the
rest
of
the
length
of
that
building.
N
Oh
yeah,
thank
you.
So
don't
read
this
as
a
specific
layout,
but
as
steve
mentioned,
we
are
going
for
passive
house
certification,
which
is
the
highest
level
of
third
party
independent
verification
system
that
is
completely
focused
on
energy
savings
and
indoor
air
quality.
There
are
many
other
third-party
certifications
that
you
can
get,
but
we're
interested
in
the
one
that
really
really
is
the
greenest
and
uses
no
fossil
fuels
as
an
all-electric
building.
N
So
we're
really
looking
ahead.
The
the
solar
panels
on
the
top,
typically
in
a
passive
house
building,
you
need
to
feed
some
energy
back
into
the
system
in
new
england.
You
might
not
have
to
in
other
climates
that
are
warmer,
it's
funny
to
say
that
now,
but
but
in
any
case,
we
do
we're
reserving
space
we'll
plant
our
roof.
We
hope
to
be
able
to
incorporate
panels
at
the
time
of
construction
of
the
building,
but
at
the
dead
dead,
minimum
we'd
be
completely
solar
ready
and
have
the
roof
plan
organized.
So
we
can
include
panels.
N
N
M
You
know,
I
would
just
point
out
it's
hard
to
see
the
columns
there,
but
just
it's
not
a
thick
wall
over
sort
of
between
the
two
parking
aisles
there
are
columns,
so
there's
sort
of
visibility
there
we're
not
creating
like
a
dead
end.
That
would
be
obviously.
M
N
N
It's
completely
open,
it's
completely
open
garage.
Next,
we
start
jumping
up
into
typical
floor
oops
we
skipped
one.
Did
we
skip
one
yeah?
We
did
the.
Can
we
go
down,
go
back.
One
slide.
N
N
We
think
in
a
building
of
this
scale,
two
elevators
is
really
the
right
idea
for
reasons
you
can
all
imagine.
We
did
split
them,
though,
so
that
people
who
are
going
out
to
go
on
the
multi-modal
path
can
go
down
that
elevator
on
the
east
side
of
the
building,
and
then
we
have
a
central
elevator
right
at
the
joint
in
the
building.
N
Yes
yep
next,
these
are
just
the
stacks
of
the
units.
Steve
already
told
we
have
1201
43
at
2
and
11
at
3..
We're
also
very
excited
about
offering
enhanced
accessibility
in
the
building
by
code.
We
really
by
state
architectural
access
board.
We
only
need
three
fully
accessible
units,
we're
providing
six
fully
accessible
units.
All
the
remainder
of
the
units
in
the
building
are
what
are
known
as
group,
one,
so
they're
adaptable
units.
N
M
So
I'll
just
sort
of
talk
about
you
know
kind
of
the
non-physical
changes.
So
again
the
the
big
change
we're
asking
for
in
terms
of
relief
is
additional
parking,
and
it's
really
because
we
put
the
parking
underground.
We
lost
a
couple
parking
spaces
doing
that,
but
we
picked
up
significantly
more
open
space,
so
we
think
the
trade-off
is
really.
You
know
a
80
increase
in
open
space,
with
a
relatively
small
reduction
for
parking
next
slide.
A
A
M
Yeah,
you
know
we
typically
don't
have
a
one-to-one
car
ownership
which
we'll
get
into
soon
so
we'll
usually
include.
You
know
a
parking
space
if
folks
need
it
with
their
rent
and
then
the
rest
will
be
kind
of
open.
So
that's
typically
how
it
works.
We
can.
We
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
M
M
They
pulled
out
20
different
sites
in
chelsea,
where
they
had
folks
show
up
at
two
or
three
in
the
morning
and
count
the
empty
parking
spaces
and
again
we
kind
of
broke
it
into
the
total
of
the
20
properties
in
chelsea,
and
then
we
divided
them
into
the
rental
and
condos
and
again
you
can
see
all
those
ratios
are
significantly
lower
than
the
1.1
that
we've
approved
and
maybe
most
importantly,
you
know-
tnd's
own
properties
in
chelsea,
the
four
sort
of
larger
30
plus
unit
sites.
M
You
know
the
copper
there's
90
units
there,
there's
68
parking
spaces
and,
interestingly,
our
most
recent
occupied
building
at
242
spencer
has
the
lowest
car
ownership
rate.
I
don't
know
what
that
means,
but
it's
also
a
lot
farther
from
public
transportation.
M
And
this
just
kind
of
shows
that-
and
I
guess
actually,
we
didn't
even
pull
in
the
acadia
on
that
other
one.
So
again,
it
shows
where
our
our
car
ownership
rate
is
versus.
What
we're
proposing
here
next
slide,
please
and
then,
as
I
said,
of
course,
it's
one
block
away
from
the
eastern
ave
silver
line
station
and
several
other
buses
that
are
are
in
sight.
M
So
we
think
it's
a
you
know
a
good
location
for
people
who
want
to
live
without
a
car
or
who
may
need
to
live
without
a
car
to
still
access
jobs
and
and
other
amenities,
great
and
then
finally,
the
need
for
affordable
housing,
1005
broadway's
under
construction
across
from
the
walgreens
and
beth
israel.
M
We
took
1927
applications
for
those
38
units,
so
it
really
speaks
to
the
demand
for
family
housing
in
chelsea
and
according
to
zumber.com,
two
bedroom
apartment,
rents
and
chelsea
have
jumped
up
19
in
the
last
year,
which
is
unbelievable
next
slide.
Please
and
again
this
still
meets
three
of
the
five
goals
called
out
in
the
comprehensive
housing
analysis
institute
plan
retaining
existing
residents
through
creation
and
preservation
and
maintenance
of
affordable
housing.
M
Obviously
we're
creating
them
here,
increasing
the
supply
and
variety
of
mixed
income,
housing
choices
to
support
chelsea's,
current
and
future
residents
again,
the
70
local
preference,
the
strong
inclusion
of
30
ami
units
for
17
of
the
units
and
then
again
fostering
a
continuous
discussion
and
collaboration
among
residents,
city
officials,
city
departments,
nonprofits
again
we're
a
non-profit
developer
proposing
this
and
that's
it
we'll
just
close
on
the
project
summary
slide
and
and
we're
happy
to
take
questions.
Okay,.
A
A
F
A
P
M
M
Yeah,
so
that's
that's
actually
an
interesting
question,
so
we
designed
it
to
have
at
least
we
try
to
design
to
have
at
least
27
square
feet
per
residential
unit
so
that
in
theory
again
we
don't
actually
expect
that
every
single
person
will
live
there,
but
assuming
that,
like
50
of
the
residents,
show
up
to
a
meeting
that
that
actually
has
room
to
accommodate
everybody
in
seats.
So
if
everyone
showed
up
that
might
have
to
be
standing
room
only
instead,
but
we
also
it
spells
out
to
the
open
space.
M
So
it
would
be
great
if
everyone
showed
up
to
something
and
but
I
think
we
have
enough
space
to
accommodate
anyone
who
would
receive.
M
The
way
we
do
it
for
security
reasons
is
we're
happy
to
make
the
space
available
to
the
public
to
members
of
the
public.
We
just
need
a
reservation,
so
we
know
and
we
can
provide
access,
so
they
won't
that
the
door
from
the
community
room
will
be
black.
You
know
the
door
into
the
community.
Room
will
be
locked
from
the
outside,
just
like
the
rest
of
them,
but
certainly
happy
to
to
accommodate
people.
Okay,.
D
M
Yeah,
so
we
still
anticipate
that
we're
building
more
parking
than
we
need.
So
I
think
we
would,
you
know
we'll
number
all
the
parking
spaces,
and
you
know
I
think,
we'll
we'll
figure
out
a
way
to
make
it
clear
which
ones
are
available
for
gas.
D
M
Would
mostly
be
mechanical
systems
like
the
air
source
heat
pumps
like
basically
condensers
for
them
great.
C
C
C
M
It's
just
a
door
into
the
building.
It's
not
a
vehicular
entrance,
so
there'll
be
there'll,
be
multiple
entrances.
The
main
entrance
will
be
on
cottage
street
there'll.
Be
an
entrance
in
that
stairwell
that
we
sort
of
showed
that's
closest
to
the
greenway,
so
that
somebody
can
come
right
off
there
into
the
garage
or
the
residence
there'll
be
an
entrance
on
bellingham
street
and
then
there'll
be
also
be.
I
guess,
two
entrances
into
this
sort
of
courtyard
space,
one
from
the
main
building
and
one
from
the
community
room.
A
Q
A
Now
I'm
going
to
open
it
to
the
public
when
you
get
up,
you
need
to
get
up
in
front
of
the
microphone
and
you
have
to
say
your
name
and
address
you're
going
to
get
up
in
front
of
the
mic.
You
can
speak
you're
welcome
once
you
get
up
in
front
of
the
microphone
or
can
somebody
bring
her
the
microphone
and
you
can
give
us
your
name
and
address.
Please
whoops.
F
A
A
We're
not
going
to
have
a
conversation,
just
tell
us
what
your
concerns
we're
happy
to
hear
them,
but
we're
not
going
to
get
into
a
debate
about
it
over
here.
Okay,
I
said
no
just
tell
we're
happy
to
hear
what
you
have
to
say,
but
we're
not
it's
not
a
question
and
answer
okay.
We
want
you
to
give
us
your
opinion
and
then
we'll
listen
to
everybody's
opinion
and
then.
R
A
S
Okay,
my
name
is
ralph
wyanusi,
I
own
the
building
on
99
willow
street
the
16
unit.
I've
been
a
landlord
in
chelsea
for
the
last
50
years.
Okay.
S
Well,
a
lot
of
the
questions
I
may
ask
right
now
are
redundant
because
we
never
had
any
previous.
The
first
time
I've
seen
the
fight
planes.
So
I'd
like
to
ask
a
few
questions.
If
I
could
sure
no
is
this
building,
is
it
fully
sprinkled
departments?
Also,
please
answer.
S
Okay
and
the
elevated,
how
many
people
does
it
hold.
N
N
We
we
haven't
spec
them
yet,
but
I
think
it's
probably
their
stretcher
compliant
elevators,
so
I've
eight
people,
maybe.
S
S
Okay,
on
the
back
of
the
building,
where
the
four
houses
you
say,
took
the
retaining
wall
out,
that's
kind
of
a
steep
grade.
That's
just
gonna.
M
Yeah
there
was
there's
a
pretty
massive
retaining
wall
because
in
the
original
plans,
because
there
was
a
driveway
there,
so
that
needed
to
be
relatively
level
and
obviously
it's
much
higher
at
the
bellingham
street
side.
So
there
was
about
a,
I
don't
remember,
exactly
16
to
18
foot
retaining
wall
that
was
holding
that
back.
So
now
we
can
have
a
much
more
gradual
slope
and
a
much
more
gradual
wall
that
still
makes
sure
that
those
structures
are
going
to
stand
up.
M
But
it's
not
I
mean
that
would
have
been
piledriving
in
in
right
on
the
property
line.
So.
S
S
You
know
you're
going
to
add,
maybe
50
60
more
cars
to
this
conclusion.
S
S
So
again,
where
do
you
plan
to
put
your
snow?
You
want
to
have
a
truck,
though,
do
you
plan
to
plow
it.
A
S
That's
great
again,
they
try
to
tell
us
that
the
the
silver
line
is
going
to
relieve
the
overflow
of
people.
If
you
watch
that
silver
line,
if
you
see
three
or
four
people
on
that
bus
a
day,
you
know
so
people
aren't
using
the
silver
line.
They're
gonna
be
looking
for
their
cars
and
that's
gonna
be
a
major
thing
on
parking
in
that
area.
S
So
you
know.
I
personally
believe
that
a
building
this
size
on
that
poster
size
lot
is
going
to
be
a
tragedy.
I
think
the
planning
board
should
send
it
back.
Put
a
building
30
units
100
parking.
That
would
be
something
that
the
city
could
be
proud
of.
I
don't
think
this
unit,
this
overflow
of
people
is
going
to
be
good
for
the
the
city
for
the
neighborhood
and
for
the
people
living
there.
A
M
G
I'm
not
happy
about
this
because
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sorry
say
that
again,
I
own
a
unit
at
165
cottage
and
I
felt
safe
and
now
that
I'm
going
to
have
a
low
income
building
across
the
street
from
me,
I
don't
feel
safe
because
I'm
on
the
cottage
street
side
and
I
felt
safe.
If
I
have
company
there's
a
place
about
bad
enough,
they
can't
talk
and
guess
parking
if
they
have
to
park
on
the
street.
G
It's
I
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
put
a
low
income
housing
project.
I
mean
the
projects
are
coming
down
on
central
avenue,
so
they
picked
cottage
street.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay,
thank
you.
Is
there
anybody
else
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
again?
This
won't
be
your
only
opportunity.
We're
going
to
be
they're
coming
before
us
again
on
september
13th,
so
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
more
questions
or
to
make
your
points
known,
so
planning
board
823
zoning
board
913..
A
B
B
B
A
C
But
the
the
only
but
the
top
floor,
which
is
now
pitched,
will
be
redesigned
with
a
flat
roof.
B
B
Also
the
footprint
john.
Do
you
have
the
plot
plan
on
a
slide?
I
may
need
honor
to
help
me
describe
this,
but
the
building
is
over
here.
Sorry,
that's
the
parking!
That's
why
I
need
honor.
The
building
is
here,
there's
an
overhang
from
the
third
floor,
with
open
space
underneath.
B
B
Just
a
little
more
interior
space
and
then
there's
a
shed
here
also
and
that
will
be
removed
to
give
a
little
more
room
in
the
parking
area.
The
parking
won't
change.
There
are
currently
six
spaces
they
would
need.
I
have
my
notes
over
there,
but
eight,
I
believe,
join
right,
so
they
need
two
more
spaces.
So
we'd
need
a
variance
for
parking.
B
B
No
there's
a
garage
one
garage
space
and
again
the
only
change
to
the
parking
lot
will
be
to
remove
this,
the
shed
to
just
give
a
little
more
room
there
and
that's
basically,
the
the
project
they've
been
waiting
and
trying
to
work
with
the
insurance
company,
and
it's
it's
been
a
long
time
coming,
but
they
would
like
to
reconstruct
the
building
continue
to
reside
there,
which
is
admirable
and
add
the
one
unit
to
better
utilize.
The
space
within.
C
C
A
A
D
B
B
B
H
F
It's
one
or
two
bit
bathroom.
F
P
F
On
the
proposed,
the
new
unit.
B
P
P
Room,
but
we
left
for
tools
to
put
all
the
you
know:
the
snow
machine,
the
shower
to
clean
the
snow,
whatever
we
need
in
there.
But
you
know
the
reason
that
I
put
a
bathroom
in
there
because
sometimes
freezing
in
there.
You
have
to
have
a
place
to
warm
up
or
if
you
feel
to
go
to
the
bathroom,
you
don't
have
to
go
and
knock
a
door
to
somebody
through
the
whole
body
full
of
snow
and
dirty
go
into
the
apartment.
So
you
use
the
bathroom
downstairs.
A
P
A
C
A
P
A
G
A
C
A
Is
there
anybody?
This
is
not
going
to
be
the
only
opportunity
you're
going
to
have
to
speak
on
this,
because
this
is
going
to
the
planning
board
next
in
two
weeks,
and
this
back
here
next
month.
Is
there
anybody
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
at
this
time,
though
there
being
none,
I'm
going
to
continue
the
public
portion
of
the
hearing
planning
board
the
23rd
here
on
the
13th.
A
The
next
case
is
2022-19
65
shirtless
street
mario
claros
for
public
here
on
before
special
permit
to
remodel
the
first
floor
unit,
including
the
creation
of
additional
living
space
into
the
basement,
to
include
an
additional
two
bedrooms
within
the
unit
which
does
not
meet
minimum
requirement
for
off
street
parking.
Please
introduce
yourself
and
your
address
and
present.
O
O
So
the
reason
for
that
the
two
bedrooms
on
the
basement
is
because
he
wants
the
convenience
of
having
a
guest
room
for
a
relative
that
visits
him
from
out
of
state
and
he
pretty
much
plans
to
add
more
parking
space.
If
that
helps
with
the
permit.
O
On
the
first
floor
unit,
he
has
three
bedrooms.
O
O
G
C
O
Occasionally,
use
for
relatives
pretty
much,
we
don't
plan
to
furnish
them.
We
what
the
plan
is
to
you
know
whenever
we
have
a
relative,
accommodate
them
on
one
of
those
rooms
and
nobody's
gonna
be
living
in
there.
That's
the
reason
we
we
mark
them
as
occasional.
C
C
O
Okay,
so
from
what
I
understand,
my
father
plans
to
just
use
them
occasionally
he
he
doesn't
plan
on
having
anybody
living
in
there,
and
this
is
not
going
to
affect
any
of
the
neighbors.
O
He
just
wants
the
convenience
of
having,
like
I
said,
an
extra
guest
room
for
relatives
when
they
when
they
come
visit.
Okay,.
A
F
Will
use
the
washing
dryer
everybody.
O
It's
storage,
storage,
stuff
that
my
father
has,
and
you
know
it's
not
being
actually
leaving
a
space
in
there.
Just
pretty
much
a
storage.
O
P
L
A
Public,
but
we're
not
going
to
be
voting
on
this
today
that
it's
going
to
go
to
the
planning
board.
You
have
to
go
to
the
planning
board
on
the
23rd
of
august
and
then
back
here
on
the
13th
of
september
and
I'm
gonna
open
it
up
to
the
public,
and
then
they
will
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
this
now
and
later.
So
is
there
anybody
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this.
A
A
F
Course,
yeah
on
the
side
that
you
want
to
build
the
the
two
bed
bath
bedrooms:
okay,
you
have
the
mechanical
rooms
there
right
the
boilers
and
all
the
stuff.
Yes
does
that
make
any
reason?
Why
are
you
going
to
put
the
new
best
version
there
instead
of
having
it
across?
Will
you
have
all
the
storage.
O
O
T
T
A
The
next
case
is
20
22
20
175
orange
street,
jean
and
ramona
bourganyon
for
special
permit
seeking
approval
for
a
driveway
opening
permit,
which
does
not
meet
the
city
of
chelsea's
zoning
ordinance,
which
states
that
parking
of
a
vehicle
is
not
permitted
within
the
five
foot,
from
a
rear
property
line,
nor
within
five
feet
of
a
side,
property
line.
And
again
this
is
the
first
time
we're
hearing
this,
so
we
won't
be
voting
on
it
today.
You
will
instead
go
to
the
planning
board
on
the
23rd
of
august,
and
here
back
here
on
september
13th.
A
T
Good
evening
my
name
is
ramona
borginion.
This
is
my
husband.
Gene
borgenion,
we
own
a
property
at
320,
cotter,
street
and
part
of
our
property
has
a
piece
of
land
that
sits
on
on
175
orange
3..
So
we
are
respectfully
requesting
permission
to
build
the
driveway
that
will
allow
us
to
hopefully
contribute
to
in
a
positive
way
to
the
parking
situation
in
the
city
of
chelsea
by
being
able
to
park
some
of
our
vehicles
back
there.
T
Our
home
has
a
very
tiny
driveway
literally
to
park.
We
have
to
put
the
mirrors
in
because
it's
it's
that
that
narrow
and
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't,
have
enough
room
for
our
personal
vehicles.
My
husband
has
a
four
f-150
truck
and
he
has
to
park
it
on
the
street
because
it
doesn't
fit
on
our
driveway.
So
we
feel
that
that
dead
space
that
is
sitting
there
currently
on
use
could
be
better
used
to
allow
us
to
park
our
vehicles,
and
you
know
let
the
on-street
parking
too
and.
U
Sorry
we're
looking
at
about
three
to
four
vehicles:
okay,.
H
T
A
T
T
It's
primarily
to
park
our
truck,
as
I
said,
and
then
obviously,
when
we
have
visitors,
it's
really
a
challenge
and
for
them
to
find
parking
space
on
the
street.
A
A
And
plus
it
has
to
figure
out
what
fits
in
there.
That's
the
flip
side
of
it.
So,
okay,
I'm
sorry!
So
that's
so
you're!
So
that's!
Basically
what
you're
trying
to
do
you
wanna
you
wanna,
curb
cut
that
would
take
one
parking
space
off
the
street
but
would
provide
four
parking
spaces.
Correct,
roughly
correct,
given
your
picture.
Yes,.
A
A
T
A
C
A
G
U
Paying
attention
so
this
this
here
connects
to
to
it
it's
in
it,
as
you
can
see,
it's
a
triangle
shape.
So
this
is
the
back
of
our
house
and
there's
a
actually
a
car
can
actually
fit
all
the
way
here
into
our
backyard.
If,
if.
A
U
That
old
area
that
that
whole
area
right
now
is
actually
when
we
first
bought
the
house
it
it
was
basically
like
a
dump.
Those
people
from
the
streets
would
be
throwing
things
up
there
in
inside.
U
I
have
I've
cleaned
it
about
twice,
removing
all
tvs,
and
I.
U
Debris
everything
people
will
just
go
by
and
throw
it
because
they
realize
that
it
was
like.
It
looks
like
an
abandoned
air,
you
know
area
and
so
we're
trying
to
beautify
it.
You
know
actually
from
that
block
on
orange
street.
U
It's
it's
pretty
much
the
first
property.
If
you
want
to
call
it
that
on
orange
street,
going
up
by
behind
the
high
school,
but.
U
Yes,
yes,
that's
another.
The
trees
is
another
issue,
because
it's
liability
that
we
have
a
couple
of
huge
trees
that
are
leaning
towards
the
neighbors.
That's.
T
U
And
I
have
one
neighbor
who
told
me
basically
that
she
every
time
you
you
know,
there's
a
storm
that
she's
like
worried
about,
like
branches,
will
fall
off
fall
on
her
property.
So
this
is
also
part
of
that
we'll
clean
all
of
that
area
and
really
pretty
much
beautify.
It
like,
we
said,
make
it
nice,
and
you
know,
and
at
the
same
time,
making
some
parkinson's
available.
U
A
U
T
U
The
highway
project
that
just
completed
being
completed,
you
know
kind
of
pretty
much.
This
whole
area
is
really
very
nice.
You
know,
but
as
far
as
you
know
this
part
of
our
area
here,
it's
not
you
know
we're
trying
to
make
it.
Maybe
like
a
continuously,
you
know
it's
kind.
U
Yeah,
it's
a
nice
soul.
Basically,
really,
as
you
can
look
at
it,
this
picture
is
a
bunch
of
trees
and
in
all
this
area
here
this
night,
it's
really
clean
right
now
because,
like
I
said,
I've
cleaned
it
twice,
but
you
know
otherwise
you
wouldn't
see
like
broken
tv
and
doors
and.
A
Think
it's
a
place.
Nobody
owns
it.
Okay,
great!
I
I
don't
think
that's
the
case,
but
is
anybody
here
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
there
being
none?
I
will
continue.
The
public
portion
of
this
hearing.
You've
got
to
go
to
the
planning
board,
as
I
said
earlier,
on
the
23rd
of
august
and
back
here
on
the
13th
of
september.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
and
last
but
not
least,
2021
2022-21,
655
washington,
ave,
silk,
red
harvest,
llc
for
special
permit,
seeking
approval
to
establish
a
parking
area
and
curb
cut
which
does
not
meet
the
city
of
chelsea's
own
zoning,
ordinance,
which
states
that
the
parking
of
a
vehicle
is
now
permitted
within
the
required
front
yard,
setback
of
a
property
more
within
five
feet
of
a
side
lot
set
by
set
line
lot
line.
A
W
My
name
is
christopher
kreidler
good
evening,
madam
fair
and
members
of
the
board-
I
am
from
d'ambrosio
llp
with
me:
are
the
owners
of
silk
out
harvest
llc?
They,
and
these
are
actually
the
developers
with
cem
construction
as
well.
This
is
eduardo
maracino
and
carlos
medesino.
W
Essentially,
this
property
is
predominantly
within
the
revere
jurisdiction,
because
a
majority
of
the
property
and
pretty
much
the
entire
structure
that's
being
built
is
in
revere.
The
portion
of
the
property
that
we're
actually
looking
is
just
a
little
corner
off
of
the
edge
there
that
will
house
essentially
two
parking
lots
or
two
parking
spaces
and
what
will
be
the
egress
actually
to
prospect
avenue.
W
We
are
obviously
seeking
those
the
special
permits
for
the
parking
so
that
we
can
ensure
that
the
entire
property
itself
has
24
spots
for
16
one-bedroom
units,
so
it
has
enough
for
each
of
the
residents
plus
a
number
of
spots
for
guests
and
accessible
units
as
well.
One
of
the
accessible
units
is
actually
located
in
the
chelsea
property
right
there,
as
is
the
wall,
the
separation
between
the
two
accessible
units
as
well.
W
W
And
obviously,
in
terms
of
the
curb
cuts
we
are
seeking
the
special
permit
for
that,
mostly
just
in
order
to
maintain
two
acts
to
access
points
for
for
the
property
itself.
Ideally,
the
goal
in
what
the
plan
actually
shows
is
the
entrance
actually
coming
from
washington
avenue
where
the
exit
would
actually
go
out
onto
prospect
avenue
so
that
it's
a
little
bit
easier
for
folks
to
make
that
turn
at
the
intersection
right
there.
I
believe,
there's
a
light
right
there
as
well.
If
I
remember
correctly,
no
there's
not.
W
A
C
Is
I
mean,
I
think
this
is
only
just
one
of
very
few
lots
in
the
city
that
are
divided
by
the
tom
property,
the
town
line
with
another
city,
so
this
is
a
portion
that
is
under
your
jurisdiction.
Whatever
goes
on
here,
you
have
no
say
over
it's
only
this
and
in
this
case
it's
a
park.
A
parking
space,
chelsea
parking
spaces
can't
be
within
five
feet
of
the
side.
Lot
line
it's
on
the
zero
law
line
basis
cannot
be
within
the
required
setback
and
the
r1.
The
required
setback
is
20
feet.
C
Obviously,
that's
not
20
feet
and
then
the
curb
cut
has
to
be
set
back
at
least
50
feet
from
the
intersection.
At
this
point,
it's
28
feet.
So
that's
those
are
those
three
concerns.
The
parking
adjacent
to
the
side,
lot
line
parking
within
the
front
yard
and
the
curb
cut
within
50
feet
of
the
intersection.
C
No
they're
right
on
the
street.
There
is
no
fence
proposed
in
my
report.
I
suggested
that
they
do
put
a
fence
there,
so
that
these
this
car
is
not
parking
on
the
street.
On
the
sidewalk
on.
G
W
Certainly
something
that
my
clients
would
be
willing
to
consider
at
that
point,
and
I
would
imagine
that
would
probably
come
up
during
the
planning
board
as
well.
So
we
can
certainly
look
at
any
conditions
that
the
planning
board
would
certainly
try
to.
C
W
L
A
W
And
this
is
just
low,
yeah
low
landscaping
right
there
and
then
obviously
the
access
neograss
on
to
prospect
avenue.
C
Now
the
reason
why
we
have
no
parking
on
the
lot
line-
one
is
so
they
don't
park
on
the
sidewalk,
but
also
so
they
don't
interfere
with
the
butter's
uses.
Well,
there
is
no
butter
there,
so
it's
not
really
a
big
concern
and
then
well
the
reason
you
don't
have
in
the
front
yard.
Again,
usually
you
want
some
open
space
along
the
front
yard.
C
Isn't
really
a
front
yard
technically
correct
and
then
the
reason
that
you
have
this
the
50-foot
setback
is
so
that
vehicles
entering
and
leaving
not
coming
out
and-
and
they
have
an
adequate
storage
on
this
before
they
could
take
their
right,
but
also
so
they're
not
coming
out
and
just
making
it
a
move
without
stopping
there's
six
lots
on
the
street.
If
there
were
more
than
that,
I'd
be
more
concerned.
A
F
W
F
On
the
the
chelsea
side
on
the
side
of
the
sidewalk
with
the
bushes,
you
can
see
three
bushes
right.
W
F
F
I
believe
there's
effects
in
the
corner,
so
if
you're
going
to
have
people
going
in
and
now
oh,
oh,
if
the
bus
still
parks
there
on
this
side
on
this
corner.
Here
the
house-
oh.
F
W
I
I
understand
yes,
I
mean,
ideally
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
we
are
seeking
the
special
permit
so
that
we
do
have
the
adequate
parking
for
our
residents,
so
they
don't
have
to
use
that
street
parking
there.
So
we
don't
necessarily
believe
that
they'll
be
necessary
that
our
residents
would
have
any
need
to
park
on
those
particular
properties.
Unfortunately,
I
can't
necessarily
speak
for
those
who
would
be
using
for
the
111
or
parking
who
would
normally
park
in
the
illegally
parking
lot.
W
V
V
V
H
A
There's
clearly
nobody
here
to
speak
on
this
that
doesn't,
but
I
am
not
going
to
close
the
public
portion
of
the
hearing.
You
know
the
dates
you've
heard
me
say
it.
23Rd
13th
see
you
then.