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From YouTube: Life of Fannie Cary Fairweather 2021
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A
A
B
That
was
an
area
that
in
letters
back
and
forth
to
the
family,
that
was
a
little
play
area
for
the
children
at
the
carrie
house,
because
there
were
lots
of
willows
there,
and
so
there
was
nothing
there
between
the
house
and
all
the
way
to
the
marsh
all
the
way.
Beyond
broadway.
There
was
nothing
behind
the
house,
it
was.
It
was
a
farm.
There
was
an
apple
orchard
that
went
up
part
of
powderhorn
hill.
There
was
a
spring
on
the
back
of
powderhorn
hill
that
they
were
able
to
get
water.
B
B
Two
died
very,
very
young
within
days
when
they
lived
in
the
west
indies,
but
that
house
has
been
full
of
people
and
children
and
activity
a
lot
of
people
who
were
born
in
that
house
and
a
lot
of
people,
including
fanny
fairweather,
died
in
that
house.
So
it's
an
incredible
part
of
history.
So,
if
you
can
just
imagine,
that's
the
setting.
B
B
This
is
fanny's
and
I
and
many
others
have
been
drawn
to
her
story
and
the
more
I
learn
about
her,
the
more
fascinating
I
find
it
so
some
of
the
words
that
I
use
in
doing
the
research
I'm
not
really
even
comfortable
with,
but
it
may
be
a
listing
from
1798
when
they
got
married
or
or
a
census
from
1810.
That's
part
of
the
historical
record,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
that.
B
She
was
captured
by
slavers.
Now
a
lot
of
this
information
comes
from
letters
in
within
the
family.
Some
have
been
privately
published.
Some
are
at
the
mass
historical
some
are
privately
held,
but
fannie
talked
about
remembering
as
a
little
girl
being
captured,
men
came
out
of
the
woods.
She
was
taking
care
of
her
little
sister
and
men
came
out
of
the
woods
and
took
her.
Was
it
white
slavers?
Was
it
black
slavers?
B
In
a
sense
it
doesn't
matter
because
she
was
stolen.
She
was
stolen
from
her
family
and
and
where
she
was
from.
The
story,
then
goes
that
she
was
in
the
slave
market
at
saint
kitts.
Well,
saint,
kitts
and
grenada
aren't
in
exactly
the
same
place.
So
again,
we're
not
quite
sure
there's
so
many
other
things
we
have
to
learn,
but
at
any
rate
she
was
eight
ten
years
old,
we're
figuring
that
she
lived.
B
B
She
came
here
in
17.
She
came
to
chelsea
in
1791.
She
married
david
fairweather,
who
was
listed
as
a
free
black
of
boston
and
they
got
married
in
chelsea
and
they
lived
in
chelsea.
Very
little
is
known
about
him.
I
have
some
threads
out
there.
I
think
I
know
who
his
family
was,
but
I
want
to
be
sure,
and
anyway,
this
is
about
fanny,
so
so
they
had
15
years
together,
they
got
married
in
1798,
and
david
died
in
chelsea,
probably
in
what
is
called
the
slave
house
on
john
street.
B
B
So
she
died
and
she
was
widowed
in
1813
after
15
years
of
marriage,
she
died
in
1844
and
was
buried,
probably
in
the
romney
marsh
cemetery,
which
was
part
of
north
chelsea.
Then
I
don't
believe
that
she
would
have
been
buried
in
the
carrie
family
crypt,
which
all
the
carriers
have
been
moved
to
the
romney
marsh
cemetery
as
well.
So,
but
at
any
rate,
she
is
there
now
that's
her
life
shortly
again,
I
don't
have.
B
We
don't
have
anything
directly
from
fannie
in
here's,
what
a
historian,
what
a
researcher
finds
interesting,
but
also
you
have
to
contend
with
it.
Are
these
stories
true,
because
we've
heard
story
who
have
we,
who
do
we
have
the
record
from?
We
have
the
record
from
her
owners,
her
employers,
people
who
she
lived
with.
So
it's
secondary.
B
B
And
mrs
carey
saw
her
felt
really
sad
about
this
little
child,
this
little
girl
being
there
and
and
said.
I
must
have
that
child
now,
that's
uncomfortable
to
say
that.
But
that's
what
this,
how
the
story
goes
again.
It's
the
granddaughter
of
mrs
carey
saying
that,
but
at
any
rate
she
came
as
a
young
girl.
She
I'm
sure,
was
taken
care
of
helped
take
care
of
the
carrie
children,
but
she
lived
with
them
for
the
rest
of
her
life.
B
B
B
B
So
again,
I
think
they
brought
three
of
their
black
quote-unquote
servants.
They're
called
who
were
slaves
in
grenada,
but
my
feeling
is
that
the
minute
they
stepped
off
the
boat,
they
were
legally
free.
Now
we
don't
know
whether
the
carries
ever
paid
them.
We
don't
have.
We
have
not
as
yet
we
may
find.
We
have
not
as
yet
found
any
evidence
of
any
listing
of
pay
for
their
work.
We
don't
know
that,
but
they
came
back
in
1791
fannie
and
david
got
married
in
chelsea,
and
then
we
checked
the
census
and
the
17.
B
There
have
been
a
federal
census
in
the
united
states
every
10
years
since
1790
and
the
ones
for
boston
and
chelsea
are
are
missing
there.
They
they've
gone,
so
I
can't
find
yet
david
listed
in
1790
or
1800
and
they
only
list
the
head
of
the
family
and
they
do
list
whether
they're
white
black
in
their
ages.
B
So
in
1810,
david
is
listed
as
being
the
head
of
the
household,
and
there
were
three
other
people
of
color
black
people
living
with
him.
He's
listed
right
under
samuel,
carey's
property.
So
it
seems
to
lead
to
the
fact
that
they
were
living
at
what
is
known
as
the
slave
house.
They
weren't
living
in
the
house,
but
they
were
living
in
the
slave
house,
but
he's
listed
as
head
of
the
family
1810
he
dies
1813.
B
B
Yes,
I
believe
she
did
because
in
1840
a
woman
of
color
between
55
and
100
was
living
in
the
carry
house
with
charles
carey
and
the
two,
the
two
sisters,
so
I
I
think
she
was,
I
think
she
was
there.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
or
anything
to
say
so
far?
I
don't
want
to
go
on
and
on
without
asking
people
if
they
have
any
questions.
B
C
B
B
It's
it's
hard
but
rewarding
again,
and
this
is
uncomfortable.
But
it's
the
fact
you
can't
just
look
in
the
f's
in
the
boston
directory
for
1790
or
whatever
and
find
the
fair
weather
they're
in
a
separate
section
which
is
annoying,
but
that's
how
it
was,
and
sometimes
they're
listed
as
negroes,
sometimes
they're
blacks.
B
B
What
I
find
I
personally
find
so
fascinating
is
we
all
just
put
a
label
an
adjective
on
somebody
or
she
was
a
slave
or
she
was
this,
so
she
was
that
he
was
a
carpenter
or
whatever
and-
and
it's
people
are
more
than
that,
the
the
and
I
love
the
fact
the
the
intellectual
ethical
well
was
she
free?
I
think
she
was
so
you
have
this
woman
who
was
born
free
taken
from
her
family,
enslaved,
became
free,
got
married,
lived
her
life
and
died
a
free
woman
in
in
the
house
that
we
that
we
had.
D
F
B
D
B
B
B
For
her
right
right
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
and
that's
the
other
thing
toad
that
when
mrs
carey
joined
her
husband,
she
left
chelsea
in
january
of
1774
after
she
had
had
their
first
child.
She
couldn't
leave
out
of
boston
because
it
was
frozen,
so
the
harbor
was
frozen.
So
she
traveled
the
new
report,
sailed
from
new
report
in
january
1774
down
to
grenada.
B
It
reads
native
of
africa
and
I
I
have
not
seen
every
death
record,
of
course,
but
I've
never
seen
that
that
I
consider
an
honorific
that
this
woman
was
a
native
of
africa.
So
if
she
were
80
years
old
in
1844,
she
would
have
been
born
in
1764
and
if
they
bought
her
in
1774,
she
would
have
been
about
10..
B
B
G
G
B
B
B
So
I
I
I
don't
know
exactly:
it's
not
made
clear
exactly
whether
it
was
attention
whether
it
was
samuel's
health.
Mrs
carey
writes
in
the
cary
letters
that,
along
the
lines
that
men
come
to
the
islands
and
think
they'll
make
their
for
something
along.
This
they'll
come
to
the
islands
and
think
they'll
make
their
fortune
and
then
go
home
within
a
few
years
and
there's
something
about
this
place
that
keeps
them
hoping.
B
B
One
of
samuel's
letter
books
online
available
to
anyone.
It's
samuel,
carey's
letter
book
and
you
can
see
scanned
copies
of
the
pages
from
the
1772,
some
of
which
you
can
read
some
of
which
you
can't.
But
it's
it's
held
by
a
special
collection
in
the
university
of
florida
and
in
it
he
mentions
you
can
read
some
of
it
selling,
he
doesn't
say,
slaves.
E
B
In
the
insurrection
in
1795-96
and
and
that's
another
thing,
I
want
to
say
that
you
know
they
were
not
fabulously
wealthy.
They
had
money
they,
but
they
they
some
of
their
family.
Members
were
wealthy,
they
were
elite
but
and
they
they
were
of
privilege,
but
they
they
weren't
fabulously
wealthy
swanning
around
there
and
new
england.
So
I
hope
that
answers
your
question
david
part
of
it
anyway.
I
B
I
would
love
to
know
it
would
mean
a
great
deal.
I
think
if
we
knew
what
ship
she
came
over,
because
there
is
a
transatlantic
slave
database,
which
you're
probably
aware
of,
and
also
with
it's
through
the
national
archives
in
queue
in
london.
They
have
a
lot
of
things
online
that
if
we
knew
when
she
came
either
to
saint
kitts
or
grenada,
what
ship
she
came
on
that
would
indicate.
Where
did
she
sail
from?
K
K
But
I
in
in
in
hearing
this
story,
parts
of
which,
of
course,
are
very
familiar
to
me.
I
I
began
wondering
about
the
legality
of
of
marriage
where
enslaved
people
at
the
time
that
franny
and
davey
david
married,
was
that
legal
or
is
that
a
sign
that
that
she
was
free
because
she
could
her
marriage
was
recorded?
B
B
B
If
you
look
at
the
in
fact
brings
up
a
good
point,
the
earlier
that
the
typewritten
records
of
boston
records,
of
whatever
they
will
say,
scipio
servant
of
fair
weather
yeah.
So
so
he
didn't
have
a
name,
but
his
owner
did
now
what
happens.
Sometimes,
if
that
individual
were
saying
scipio,
he
there
was
a
scipio
fairweather.
B
If
he
was
sold,
then
usually
his
surname
would
change,
which
is
horrendous,
but
it's
it's
it's
it's.
It
makes
it
more
difficult
to
track
them.
So
an
answer
to
your
question:
yes,
even
though
they
were
enslaved,
they
weren't
usually
called
slaves.
They
were
called
servants
of
yes
and
it
would
be
scipio
servant
of
thomas
fairweather
and
jane
servant
of
hannah
twing
twing
was
a
a
very
big
boston
name.
B
B
B
Yeah
and
and
and
they
they
make
it
nice
by
saying
servant
of
well,
you
know
done
well,
they
weren't,
but
in
in
amplification
lee
of
what
you
just
asked
that
when
I
have
my
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
hit
me
suddenly
earlier
well
last
year,
wait
a
minute
when
she
stepped
off
the
boat
in
84
and
then
in
91
the
minute
she
stepped
off
the
boat
in
boston.
She
was
a
free
woman.
I
Question
on
that
yeah
yeah,
okay,
so
you
know
also
during
the
time
you
know
it's
been
a
long
time,
but
that
you
see
by
thinking
like
doing
a
slave
and
all
that
learning
my
history
at
that
time.
Also
when
they
when
slave
was
supposedly
abolished
right,
it
really
wasn't
in
some
point
in
front
and
they
came
in
and
had
a
choice
to
be
now.
I
You're
considered
indentured
servants
to
like
say,
boston
where
it
was
already
so
she
was
still
a
slave,
but
now
it's
a
different
title
because
stepping
in
boston
she
was
free,
supposedly
free,
even
though
the
process
was
still
ongoing
right.
So
when
she
stepped
off
when
they
brought
hershey's
slave-
and
you
know
back
of
those
days,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
money.
They
have
a
body
system,
so
it
could
have
been
so
it
could
have
been
from
produce
goods
decaying
whatever
he
was
selling
that
he
purchased
her.
B
Exactly
and
and
again
exactly
right,
and
that's
one
of
the
questions
that
that
keeps
you
going
to
dig
for
more
information
if
there
was
one
time,
one
time
in
one
of
the
ledger
books
that
maybe
the
mass
historical
or
something
that
lists
paid,
fannie
or
paid
david
for
blah
blah
blah.
The
fact
also
interesting
to
me
is
that
he
was
a
free
man
of
boston.
He
chose
to
come
and
live
on
the
carry
farm
with
the
kerry
family
with
his
wife,
his
wife
from
chelsea
did
not
go
with
him
now.
B
I
I
just
for
more
and
what
you're
saying
is
absolutely
right.
One
of
the
things
that
I
checked
with
david,
our
our
legal
advisor
on
our
board
that
slavery
was
not
officially
abolished
in
1780,
and
I
encourage
anyone
to
go
on
the
mass.gov
website
and
the
massachusetts
historical
society
website,
because,
particularly
this
month,
there
are
focuses
on
black
history
and
whatever,
and
that's
one
of
the
questions
well
theory
versus
practice,
it
was
was
it
were
they
free
or
not?
Okay.
So
this
is
what
I
found
1780.
B
When
the
mass
constitution
went
into
effect,
slavery
was
not
specified
that
it
was
ended.
It
was
still
technically
legal
and
again,
you
know
the
indenture
went
on.
It
went
on
yeah
for
a
long
time,
but
during
here's
the
thing
where
I
think
she
you
know
is
free
if
she
chose
to
fight
it
during
the
years
1781
to
1783
in
three
related
cases
known
today
as
the
quark
walker
cases,
q-u-o-c-k
and
walker.
B
On
july
8
1783
slavery
was
effectively
abolished
and
william
cushing,
the
chief
justice
of
the
supreme
court,
stated.
I
think
the
idea
of
slavery
is
inconsistent
with
our
own
conduct
and
constitution,
and
this
speaks
to
just
what
you
just
said,
and
this
is
from
the
mass
historical
website.
I
quote
the
legal
end
of
slavery,
while
individual
slaves
had
successfully
sued
for
freedom
and
groups
of
slaves
had
petitioned
for
freedom
without
success.
B
D
B
As
I
wrote
this
down,
hopefully
somebody
would
ask
in
his
instructions
to
the
jury
before
the
quark
walker
case,
and
there
were
three
cases
with
quack
walker,
because
one
of
the
two
of
them
were
civil
cases,
because
the
man
that
said
no
excuse
me
you're,
not
free,
then
proceeded
to
beat
him.
So
quack
took
him
to
court
for
that
as
well
and
won,
but
the
chief
justice
said
in
his
instructions
to
the
jury
and
they
agreed
with
him.
B
Now,
absolutely
it
ended
slavery
so
that
after
that
point,
if
you
were,
if
you
considered
yourself
free
or
you
were
in
the
person
that
you
had
worked
for
or
lived
on
their
farm
said
no,
I
don't
think
so.
Deborah
you're
still
staying
here
the
case.
It
was
a
precedent,
then
that
you
were
free
now,
of
course,
you
needed
the
money
or
to
find
someone
to
take
your
case
to
do
it,
but
it
effectively
ended
it
as
a
legal
situation,
but
you're
right
slavery
was
and
again
this
is
from
the
historical
society
website.
B
Slavery
often
recast
as
indentured
servitude,
was
not
unheard
of
in
massachusetts
through
the
end
of
the
18th
century,
and
I,
if
I
may
read
this,
I
think
this
is
again.
This
is
not.
These
are
not
my
words,
but
they
speak
to
me
and
I
think
they'll
speak
particularly
to
what
you're
saying,
if
I
name
but-
and
this
is
from
the
mass
historical
the
lies.
This
is
under
the
lives
of
african
americans
in
massachusetts.
After
the
end
of
slavery,
always
not
sweetness
and
let's
have
fun
freed
slaves,
and
this
is
the
reality.
B
B
B
It
was
sometimes
difficult
to
find
work
as
a
free
person.
Domestic
service
remained
viable
employment,
along
with
common
labor
and
professions
associated
with
the
sea.
But
again
speaking
to
your
point,
fear
of
kidnapping
and
a
forced
return
to
slavery
elsewhere,
like
was
a
bar
to
working
on
the
waterfront.
Indentured
servitude
also
remained
african-american.
Children
were
commonly
indentured
out
until
they
reached
the
age
of
21..
Now
white
children
were
also
if,
but
it
doesn't
matter,
they
had
more
choices.
Right.
B
Free
blacks
in
the
north
were
continually
organizing
their
communities
in
hopes
of
winning
freedom
for
slaves
elsewhere
and
for
bringing
the
full
benefits
of
full,
bringing
the
benefits
of
full
citizenship
to
all
american
africans
african-americans.
They
built
community
associations
that
provided
mutual
support
and
the
foundation
for
political
action,
such
as
the
african
society
in
boston
and
the
african
lodge
of
masons,
and
that's
the
the
again
on
it's
free
on
the
web.
B
B
H
B
B
K
And
I've
often
wondered
if
they
that
fanny
and
david
lived
where
they
did,
because
the
carrie
family
being
a
major
landowner
in
the
area
and
fannie's
long.
You
know
connection
whatever
yeah
it.
It
offered
some
semblance
of
protection,
yes,
that
they
couldn't
was
hard
to
find
in
those
times.
For
I
yeah
I
I
really.
B
I
B
B
D
B
That's
brilliant
yeah
yeah.
I
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
yeah.
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
Fanny,
tony
and,
as
lee
mentioned,
is
the
work
that,
when,
when
lee
presented
a
play
for,
I
believe
it
was
the
second
year
that
the
association
was
involved
with
the
chelsea
art
walk
that
you
did
the
play
lee
in
there
again
in
the
carrie
letters
which
you
can
read
at
scanned
on
archive.org.
B
B
B
The
he
is,
he
is
listed
as
the
head
of
the
household,
and
there
are
three
other
free.
Well,
how
is
it
listed
three
people
of
color
other
than
indians
with
a
capital
I
and
so
to
me.
That
indicates
that
it
was
david,
was
the
head
of
the
household
and
then
fannie
and
two
other
black
people
who
were,
but
they
were,
they
were
not
as
she
was
not
enumerated.
B
B
My
recollections
of
chelsea
goes
back
to
the
1830s,
so
if
they
were
just
popping
down
the
hill
onto
what
is
now
parker
street
to
fannie's
little
cottage,
there
wouldn't
have
been
room
for
four
people
and
and
then
the
idea
that
oh
yeah,
when
she
got
too
frail,
we
brought
her
to
live
with
us.
Well,
I
was
thrilled
thrilled
when
I
found
the
1840
census.
That's
not
just
a
fairy
tale
of
white
people
being
nice
to
a
servant.
B
K
B
When,
yes,
when
you're
absolutely
right,
when
she
again,
the
letters
say
that
when
they
came
and
visited
in
1784-
and
it
was
for
a
couple
of
months-
it
was
the
beginning
of
85-
samuel
had
been
unwell
and
he
needed
to
come
to
a
colder
climate
to
get
better
and
mrs
carey's
mother
who's
living
at
parker
street
wanted
fannie
to
stay
and
again
the
the
story
is
no.
If
mrs
stays,
I
will
stay,
but
I
will
I
want
to
go
with
mrs.
G
B
B
And
I
think
it
was
her
nature,
mrs
carey,
her
father
was
a
minister,
the
reverend
ellis
gray
and
mrs
gray
was
pregnant
with
sarah
when
he
died
of
epiplexy.
He
was
a
minister
very
nice
man.
He
was
only
37.,
and
so
she
was
born
a
couple
of
months
after
her
father
died.
But
the
word
is
that
her
mother
there's
descriptions
of
her
her
mother
was
a
very
pious
woman,
but
reading
was
very
important
to
the
gray
family
as
well
as
to
the
carrie
family.
B
So
I
I
think
david
that
one
can
conjecture.
That
reading
was
important
to
her
and-
and
I
would
like
to
think
that
fannie
wanted
to-
and
maybe
she
asked
I
mean
obviously
reading
and
writing,
as
we
all
know,
is
something
that
we
either
like
it
or
not.
I
particularly
hated
phonics
in
first
grade,
but
you
know
I
mean
that
was
me,
so
I
mean
it
takes
work,
so
I
think
I
I
I
don't
know
it
would
be
wonderful
if
we
heard
from
fannie
I
wanted
to
read,
and
I
did
who
knows.
B
G
B
A
B
Yes
and
that's
yes,
absolutely
and
that's,
I
cannot
tell
you,
I
cannot
tell
you
with
what
joy
I
felt
was
filled
with
seriously
when
I
really
was
comfortable
seeing
the
1840
census
and
there
was
a
free
person
of
color.
I
forget
how
they
list
it
and
it
had
to
be
fanny
because
of
the
age
it
had
to
be.
There
was
no
other
one
in
the
neighborhood,
so
to
speak,
and
it's
it's
something
that
I've
learned
and
remember.
B
I
learned
it
in
the
90s
with
one
of
my
most
revered
professors,
dr
emmison
baker,
always
look
for
the
primary
documentation,
always
always
always
look
for
it.
Try
to
find
it,
and
so
then
you
have
that
story
of.
Oh,
we
left
finny,
she
was
so
lovely
and
we
we
took
her
into
the
family
and,
oh,
yes,
she
was
lovely
and
we
treated
her
like
family.
Well,
that's
nice,
but
is
it
true
and
then
to
find
it
in
the
1840
census
that
she's
there?
B
So
she
was
there
in
that
house
for
four
years
so
to
be
76
years
old
and
be
considered
a
little
too
frail.
I
mean
she
only
lived
what
50
feet
away
100
feet
away
to
come
up
into
the
house
with
two
sisters
that
she'd
helped
raise
and
and
charles
carey,
who
was
a
actually,
he
was
treasurer
for
this
town
of
chelsea
for
a
long
time
who
she
also
helped
raise.
So
she
was
brought
into
the
house
and
for
four
years
well
as
any
one
of
us
who
has
cared
for
anybody,
who's
had
the
sniffles.
B
You
know
it
can
get
old
caring
for
someone
after
a
short
amount
of
time.
You
know
I
mean
it
can
get
old
to
the
person
who's
ill,
but
to
know
that
she
lived
in
that
house
and
had
that
factual
evidence
that
supports
the
story
is
huge,
joan
it's
huge
for
four
years.
It
wasn't
like.
Oh,
she
had
the
sniffles.
We
brought
her
in.
She
had
them
on
here
and
died.
No.
She
was
there
for
four
years.
K
B
Again,
lee
very
good
point:
yes,
you're
right
and-
and
in
fact,
if
you
again
it's
online,
the
the
towns
in
massachusetts,
vital
stats
before
1850
just
about
every
time.
It
was
a
massachusetts
mandate.
So
if
you
go
and
they
have
birth
deaths
and
marriages
and
again
it's
online,
but
they're
bound
volumes
and
the
fannies
anyway,
the
the
birth
deaths
and
marriages
at
the
beginning
of
the
volumes
they
have
the
key
as
to
the
bibliographic
citation
as
it
were
as
to.
B
Where
did
we
get
this
information
to
be
listed
in
the
public
record
and
so
hers
after
hers?
If
you
look,
if
you
look
on
online
and
see
it
after
hers,
native
of
africa,
in
parentheses,
she
was
80
years
old
died
of
apoplexy
native
of
africa.
It
reads:
gr1
and
gr1
is
the
grave
record
one
so
yeah,
I'm
sure
it
came
from
her
gravestone
right.
Wouldn't
that
be
just
fabu
if
they,
if
they
found
it,
I
mean
the
romney
marsh
burial.
Ground
committee
is
fabulous.
B
They
do
such
incredible
work
and
again
it
it's
what
they
do,
what
what
I've
spent
many
years
of
my
life
doing?
What
we
do
is.
It
sounds
funny
some
of
my
friends
say:
oh
yeah,
karen.
She
talks
to
dead
people.
Well,
no,
you
don't,
but
but
history
is
people
and
to
me
I
mean
yeah
the
same
things
that
drove
the
thing
same
things
that
drive
us
today.
B
F
Are
there
any
indications
whatsoever
what
her
real
name
might
have
been?
Even
if
it's
not
her
last
name,
even
her
first
name
at
eight
years
she
probably
remembered
her
real
name
and
the
you
know
if
in
kerry
family,
if
at
least
from
their
side
of
the
record,
if
she
was
beloved,
you
would
think
that
they
would
have.
At
least
you
know,
I
mean
a
natural
tendency.
Human
tendency
is
to
ask:
oh,
what's
your
name
right
like
what's
her
real
name
at
eight
years
old?
I
B
Okay-
and
that
is
something
that
I
know
I
have
a
friend
who
adopted
years
ago,
adopted
a
child
from
korea
and
her
name
was
yo
jo,
I
won't
say
it
correctly,
but
joe
he
was
her
korean
name.
Now
they
kept
that
and
she
was
known
to
family
and
friends
as
joey
j-o-I-e,
and
they
gave
her
as
her
christian
name
as
joanna,
but
she
was
known
as
joey
and
I'm
sure
still
is
today,
but
that's
something
that
I
would
absolutely.
Oh,
my
god.
B
If
this
one
reason
why
I
I
didn't
want
to,
I
don't
have
any
visuals
anyway
for
this,
hopefully
at
some
time
will
do,
but
I
I
didn't
want
to
put
a
king
or
a
daguerreotype
of
a
black
woman,
because
what's
the
point,
that's
not
right.
If,
if
we
so
so,
perhaps
in
the
answer
to
your
question
for
a
comment,
perhaps
her
given
name
by
her
family
sounded
something
like
fannie.
B
I
I
don't
know
if
if
we
knew
and
as
I
said
to
dakia
dakir-
and
I
talked
about
this
tonight
and
spoken
about
it
before
that,
if
we
knew
we
know
about
when
she
was
brought
over.
If
we,
oh,
my
god,
if
we
knew
what
tribe
she
she
had
been
taken
from,
then
perhaps
that
would
give
a
a
particular.
It
would
give
a
particular
language
route
that
we
could
trace.
Then,
how
fabulous
would
that
be
now
or
a
particular
physical
characteristic.
F
Yeah
and
that's
what
I
was
thinking
too,
is
even
if
even
if
we
had
a
first
name
to
go
by
to
even
try
to
trace
back
right.
Like
I
mean
we
do
know
the
transatlantic
trade
a
lot
of
the
I
mean
it
says,
west
africa.
But
you
know
a
lot
of
it-
happened
out
of
ghana,
right
and
and
those
like
west
african
countries
and.
E
F
B
B
This
is
17
late,
1700s,
they'll,
say
tribal
marks
on
face
or
tribal
mark
on
forearm.
Well,
someone
who
knows
far
more
than
I
about
that
lineage
that
african
lineage.
That
would
give
them
a
clue
either
of
a
tribe
or
particular
geographical
area,
but
yeah
it's
on
there
as
far
as
whether
they
were.
What
did
they
call
them
a
sturdy,
wench,
okay
or
you
know
thin
with
one
eye
bent
or
something
I
mean
they.
They
they
do
their
characteristics.
B
L
Karen,
I
I
just
have
a
quick
question.
I
I'm
wondering
hi,
I'm
mary
ellen,
I'm
just
that
you
didn't
make
any
mention
of.
I
mean.
I
know
this
is
all
about
fannie,
but
is
there
any
other
mention
of
the
kerry
family
having
any
other
slaves
or,
or
you
know,
servants
as
they
call
them,
because
where
in
in?
If
so,
did
they
get
them
at
the
same
time
as
fanny.
B
L
B
No,
she
wasn't,
I
I
can't
remember
all
of
them
and
we
don't
have
the
time,
but
that's
a
that's
another.
It's
it's!
Their
first
child
was
born
in
73.
That
was
samuel.
There
were
about
four
generations
of
samuel
carey's,
which
makes
it
really
confusing
to
do
the
research
sam,
his
father
went
back
to
grenada,
but
mrs
carey,
she
had
the
baby.
In
october,
they
got
married
in
november
of
1772
and
set
up
housekeeping
as
it
were
in
the
house
and
parker
street.
B
She
became
pregnant
and
gave
birth
to
her
first
child
in
october.
1773
stayed
in
chelsea
until
january
and
left
the
child.
Her
infant
samuel
with
her
mother,
which
she
didn't
want
to
do
her
husband,
didn't
want
to
do,
but
they
felt
it
was
safer
for
the
child.
Okay,
so
they
have
sam
and
then
I
I
have
a
I
have
a
listing
of,
and
if
you
email
the
us
on
our
web
page,
I
can
send
it
to
you
a
couple
of
years
ago.
B
I
did
how
old
was
sam
and
how
old
was
sarah
when
they
had
all
these
children,
bing
bing,
bing,
bing,
bing
and
the
next.
So
sam
stayed
in
chelsea
for
10
years,
so
that's
one
child
who
wasn't
around
the
next.
The
the
next
child
was
margaret
and
when
margaret
was
about
seven,
she
went
to
england
to
go
to.
I
B
So
yeah
and
then
two
of
the
children
there
was
a
harriet,
she
lived
five
months
and
died,
and
then
there
was
another
harriet
that
was
so
so.
Mrs
mrs
carey
was
basically
pregnant
from
19
to
about
40.
no
seriously.
She
she
had
15
children
in
this
time
period,
which
is
incredible.
I
think
she
deserves
a
star
to
have
survived
one,
let
alone
15.,
so
they
weren't
all
at
home.
B
At
the
same
time,
and
I
I
highly
encourage
anyone
again,
the
if
you,
google
letters
of
the
cary
family
it'll
come
up
and
go
to
the
one.
That's
archived,
the
the
website,
that's
archive.org,
that
is
like
climbing,
on
the
research
tree
and
with
a
swing,
because
archive.org
is
a
collaboration
between
canadian
and
american
repositories,
colleges,
private
libraries
and
it's
all
free.
So
if
you
google
it
it
was
a
pr
lee
has
seen
it.
Lee
has
studied
it.
B
It
was
written
by
a
granddaughter,
but
it
has
a
lot
of
the
information
that
and
you
could,
if
it
tells
you
where
the
children
were
and
so-and-so,
went
to
yeah
so
and
I'm
sure
there
were
other
house
servants
as
it
were.
You
know.
Fannie
was
the
only
one
but
yeah
the
children
I
mean
and
like
margaret
went
to
england
and
then
when
they
came
and
then
some
of
the
other
children
were
sent
here,
they
were
sent
there
when
they
came
back
to
chelsea
and
then
in
1795.
B
B
There's
been
something
on
that
property
for
for
all
that
time,
and
it
was
part
of
this
huge
farm,
and
so
it
still
survives
so
some
people
have
said
well.
It
has
no
relevance
well
to
me.
It
kind
of
does
because
we
as
humans
have
to
evolve
and
change
in
order
to
survive,
and
so
the
caries,
when
they
because
of
the
insurrection
and
I'm
not
saying
there
shouldn't,
have
been
an
insurrection.
B
But
the
carries
had
to
tighten
their
belts
margaret
had
to
come
home
from
england
and
margaret
taught
her
younger
brothers
and
sisters,
and
they,
the
boys,
went
to
mr
tichner's
school
in
medford
and
the
reverend
phillips
payson.
Who
was
a
minister
forever
at
the
church?
And
would
it's
now
just
a
building
center
church
in
revere
taught
they
had
a
small
school
that
they
that
they
went
to
so.
H
M
E
M
D
B
B
It
wouldn't
have
been
an
option
and
again
in
the
carry
letters
you
because
you
know
mrs
kerry
leaves
in
1774
to
go
to
the
west
indies
and
kaboom
the
whole
world
explodes.
Mr
carey
is
captured
by
the
french
on
some
journal
and
he's
held
and
and
one
of
the
revolutionaries
the
the
free
blacks
who
were
they
were
going
to
kill
him.
Then
they
said
no
he's
a
decent
man
we'll
give
him
back.
B
It
ended
by
treaty
in
83,
wow
yeah.
So
so
she
writes
that
she
has
written
these
letters
to
people
in
chelsea
to
her
mother
to
different
people
and
they've
written
back.
Maybe
three
months
later
saying:
don't
you
like
me
anymore,
mrs
carey,
I've
written
you
four
letters,
and
so
she
writes.
I
haven't
gotten
any
letter
from
my
mother
in
two
years,
wow.
So
that's
why
a
lot
of
times
you
would
keep
a
letter,
a
copy
book
because
say
you
wrote
say
you
wrote
joan
cromwell
a
letter.
How
are
you
I'm
doing
this
blah
blah
blah?
B
F
Go
ahead,
oh
I
I.
If
somebody
else
had
a
question
go
ahead.
I
can
oh,
I
was
just
going
to
ask
to
since,
since
she
could
re,
you
know,
read
and
I'm
assuming
right
as
well.
Were
there
did
she?
Was
there
any
kind
of
written
anything
like
if
not
letter?
Maybe
a
diary
or
anything
like
that
that
was
found
from
from
her
family
from
fanny's
family.
B
B
Again,
I
encourage
anyone
go
on
the
mass
historical
society's
website
and
you
can
see
they
have
a
finding
aid
of
the
different
things
that
they
have,
and
some
of
them
are
the
letterbook
of
margaret
carey,
1829
to
31
in
or
the
account
book
and
and
margaret
is
the
she
was
the
second
child.
But
she
was
the
eldest
daughter
and
she
really
kept
things
in
line.
B
She
she
kind
of
controlled
the
hustle,
and
so
hopefully
that's
one
of
the
things
I
would
love
to
do
is
read
that
one
can
get
copies,
but
you
know
there's
a
fee
obviously,
but
that
would
be
one
that
would
be
wonderful
to
to
see
if
there
were
any
record
but
as
far
as
fanning
this
I've,
maybe
something,
but
I
have
as
yet
not
seen
anything
that's
listed
as
being
authored
by
fanny.
Wouldn't
that
be
a
treat.
A
So
I
had
a
question
in
regards
to
the
carey
couple.
I
I
know
mrs
carey
was
pretty
much
pregnant.
Most
of
her
life
in
mr
carey
went
after
war,
but
I
was
wondering
at
some
point
were
they
abolitionists
because
it
seems
like
they
were
kind-hearted,
folks
and
interested
in
terms
of
the
well-being
of
fantasy.
So
I'm
wondering
if
they
had
any
association
as
being
abolitionists
and
if
so,
sometimes
I've
heard
that
the
carey
house
was
part
of
the
underground
railroad.
L
B
B
There's
never
been
anything
indicating
anything
of
an
abolitionist
nature.
The
one
thing
that
mrs
carey
is
writing
to
her
son
in
grenada.
In
the
early
1800s.
She
died
in
1824
25,
I'm
having
a
blank
talking
about
somebody.
They
knew
who
was
preaching
the
propagation
of
the
gospel
to
the
heathens
and
specifically
the
native
americans,
the
indians
out
in
the
west,
and
she
comments
and
again
you
get
a
sense
of
who
she
was
as
a
human.
B
B
Would
take
copious
notes
about
if
you
were
trying
to
save
people?
I
do
think,
and
hopefully
when
we
can
have
people
in
the
house
again,
I
would
love
to
show
you.
There
are
two
cavities
shall
we
call
it
in
the
carry
house
that
people
have
talked
about
as
maybe
where
they
hid
the
slaves
or
whatever
and
what
happens
with
urban
myths
or
stories.
Even
even
old
fairy
tales
from
the
1500s
there
usually
is
a
grain
of
truth
in
them.
B
B
B
Think
of
if
you
have
a
fireplace
in
your
home
or
in
a
building,
okay,
maybe
three
feet,
maybe
eight
feet
wide
by
the
time
it
comes
through
the
top
of
the
roof,
it's
small,
so
it
gets
smaller
like
the
neck
of
a
bottle,
gets
that's
where
that
area
is
there's
also
another
area
where
there
was
a
staircase
and
now
there's
a
quite
a
gap,
and
we
have
a
little
opening.
So
you
can
see
it
so
that
also
has
been
like
a
secret
chamber.
B
F
She
has
15
children,
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
it
would
be
interesting
to
find
out
if,
if
any
of
those
15
children
and
their
like
you
know,
offsprings
are
trying
to
piece
some
of
their
history
together
too,
and
maybe
maybe
in
conjunction
with
that.
Maybe
you
know
we
might
be
able
to
find
out
more
about
fannie
as
well
as
if
it
was
a
you
know
a
basically
if
it
was
part
of
the
underground
yeah.
B
The
kerry
family
is
very
interesting.
They,
aside
from
the
fact
that
there
were
many
of
them,
one
of
them
the
when
sarah
and
family
came
back
to
chelsea
in
1791.
She
was
seven
months
pregnant
with
her
next
child.
I
forget
his
number
thomas
graves
carrie
and
he
was
born
in
the
fall
at
34
paca
street.
He
married
an
incredibly
wealthy
woman.
He
married.
B
A
perkins
and
her
father,
perkins
school
of
the
blind,
her
father
was
just
incredible
traitor
and
his
sister
met
his
brother
married
another
perkins
family
and
they
were
very
wealthy
so
and
they
they
the
the
forbes
family,
the
endicotts,
the
I
mean,
so
there
very
well
may
be
information
that
someone
has
written
in
some
some
other
place.
That's
okay,
yeah,
who
knows
we'll
see.
N
It's
darlene,
I
don't
know
here,
I'm
gonna
get
my
hi
darlene
hi
there.
I
am
I
this
is
so
wonderful.
The
history
chelsea
has
so
much
history
and
it
goes
back
this
to
these.
You
know
beginning
times,
yeah
no,
with
with
this
is
so
huge,
and
I'm
wondering
you
know
where
where's
ron
and
leo
in
all
this,
their
family
supposedly
went
back
150
years.
N
B
Incredible
one
of
the
yes
you're
absolutely
right-
and
I
mean
you
know
we're
not
we're
not
pandering
with
about
that.
I
mean
this
is
real,
and
this
is
this
is
huge
and
there's
something
about
her
life
story.
Lee
can
attest
to
this
leaf,
there's
something
about
this
woman
yeah
that
enables
her
voice
to
continue
to
be
heard,
and
I
find
that
really
humbling,
because
why
the
the
other
thing
with
bellingham
governor
bellingham,
I
know
we're
not
talking
about
him,
but
he
was.
B
He
was
very
interesting
for
many
reasons,
but
again
with
black
history
and
that's
another
thing,
a
black
man-
and
this
is
the
1600s,
because
bellingham
died
in
1672,
but
anyway
he
was
coming
across
from
boston
to
chelsea
because
he
owned
it
and
went
to
summit
and
almost
drowned
and
angola
doesn't
have
a
last
name:
angola
who,
who
believed
he
was
a
free
man
or
he
was
a
servant
for
someone
else.
Anyone
anyway,
he
saved
him
and
governor
bellingham
gave
him
a
plot
of
land
in
boston.
Now
again,
is
this
a
story?
B
No,
it's
not
a
story,
because
there
is
a
deed
that
you
can
access
online
in
the
suffolk
registry
of
deeds.
One
of
the
first
books
of
deeds
from
the
1600s
and
bellingham
said
to
him
that
someone
close
by
said
well
gee.
If
you're
giving
out
land
to
win,
golar
I'll,
take
a
bunch,
and
the
quote
is
that
he
said
no
bellingham
said
no.
You
have
not
done
me
the
service
that
this
man
has
so
I
mean
yeah
and
that's
what
what
was
his
name.
B
B
Right
and
so
he
gave
him
land
and
yeah,
but
again
it's
it's
having
the
nuts
and
bolts
finite
documentation,
the
primary
documentation
that
this
story
really
is
true.
Now
bellingham
didn't
live
at
the
house
in
pocket
street.
He
visited
there.
He
had
a
house
tremont
street,
but
it's
still
another
black
white
historical
connection
between
boston,
chelsea,
the
the
the
history
that
is
notable-
and
I
mean
you
can
again,
google,
angola
of
boston
and
I'm
don
sure
it'll
come
up
and
you
can
go
right
to
the
deed
and
see
it,
which
is
pretty
neat.
A
A
I
C
A
I
I
want
to
hear
other
folks
too,
but
yes,
I
am
happy
with
it
and
I'm
glad
we
got
this
opportunity.
I
and
I
hope
we
continue
the
conversation,
because
there
are
many
there's
a
rich
black
history
here
in
chelsea
and
fanny
cherry
fair
other
is
just
one
of
those
person,
but
it
needs
to
be
discussed
and
conversated
and
and
talked
about
more
so
we
can
relate
to
the
past
history
of
black
folks
in
chelsea,
right
and
no
and
being
able
to
follow
that
back
to
the
16
1700s.
B
And
again,
it's
not
rewriting
history.
Is
it
it's?
It's
sharing
it
and
learning
more
about
it
which,
which
I
feel
amplifies
it
and
it
ampli
it
to
you-
and
I
mean
you've,
heard
some
of
it
about
fanny
before,
but
I
hope
that
she
has,
you
know
in
a
sense
become
more
real.
I
mean
this
was
a
real
person
and
we
walk
in
her
steps
when
I'm
in
the
house.
I
think
okay
fanny.
Where
were
you
you
know?
B
N
Karen
can
I
just
say
I,
the
carey
house
would
be
a
great
place
to
have
these
conversations.
You
know
historical,
wouldn't
it.
The
carey
house
is
so
fantastic
and
I
don't
know
why
it
hasn't
been
more
accessible,
not
that
it's
not,
but
it
it
well.
I
don't
think
it
is,
but
but
it
needs
to
be
more
present
and
accessible
and
and
for
everyone
from
over
the
bridge
to
come
to
that
carry
house
to
hear
this
history
yeah.
This
is
huge.
N
A
B
O
Stacy,
can
you
guys
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
okay,
so
I
I
really
agree
that
we
need
to
further
discuss
this.
I
found
this
very
interesting.
I
something
that
definitely
puzzled
me
was
how
the
caries
could
have
went
over
there
to
the
slave
block,
but
weren't
there
to
purchase
slaves.
Actually
that's
something
that
is
a
little
intriguing,
and
I
would
like
to
know
more
about
that
and
also
if
they
were
just
looking
for
people
to
help
them.
You
know
with
household
chores
and
so
forth.
Why
wouldn't
they
have
looked
closer?
B
B
B
So
I
can't
speak
to
this
first
person,
but
I
believe-
and
I
may
be
incorrect,
but
I
believe
that
the
slave
market
was,
as
I
found
it
so
unpleasant
to
say,
but
that
was
a
part
of
the
area
that
was
of
commerce,
so
it
would
have
been
a,
I
believe,
a
portion
of
the
market,
but
just
a
section
of
it.
So
if
someone,
if
someone
can
speak
to
that,
that
would
be
wonderful,
well,.
D
B
D
H
B
B
D
L
E
B
B
The
taxes,
and
we
have
to
do
probate
now
and
and
the
whole
reason
is,
you
have
inconvenienced
the
state
by
dying
and
losing
your
income.
Well,
the
unfortunate
reality
is
palatable.
Reality
is
that
when
they
list
things,
you
frequently
can
tell
what
room
the
assessor
is
in
because
of
what
they're
listing
beds
or
pots
and
pans
frequently
the
the
humans,
the
slaves
are
listed
with
the
farm
implements
and
the
cattle
in
the
commodities.
B
D
You
know
this
much
silver,
four
human
beings,
you
know
and
and
and
and
they
would
then
will
left
in
their
will-
to
maybe
to
their
daughter
or
their
sons
and
and
very
very
seldom
got
their
freedom.
They
just
were
between
to
someone
else,
because
they
were
a
commodity
like
they
were
commodities
they
weren't
human,
and
I
mean
she
may
have
bought
that
little
girl
because
it's
almost
like
buying
a
pet.
D
A
Yes,
this
is
incredibly
and-
and-
and
that's
I'm
glad
that
we've
come
to
this
conversation,
because
and
that's
why
I
said
wow-
it
just
sounds
so
beautiful
that
she
felt
she
was
compassionate
and
felt
sorry
for
this
little
girl.
That
was
on
the
slave
block
and
you've
never
heard
that
type
of
a
story
so
and
when,
when
stacy
said,
you
know
it's
hard
to
believe,
because
we
would
say
you
know
what
it
sounds
like.
A
A
C
Yes,
I
was
trying
to
ask
this
question:
hi,
beverly
hi,
and
you
know
what
I
have
been
watching
on
old
channel.
It's
called
underground
yeah
and
we
talked
about
was
this
underground?
You
know
we
we
were,
we
were
all
asking
and
wondering
was
there.
This
was,
was
this
underground?
Could
slaves
come
through
there
yeah
and
you
kind
of
touched
on
that
a
little
okay
yeah,
but
to
me
the
carries
you
know
just
like
the
ladies
said.
You
know
we
were
like
when
they
bought
the
slaves.
C
C
The
whole
carey,
you
know
being
and
everything-
and
I
really
really
want
to
take
a
visit
to
the
house
and
see
the
rooms
that
you
said
where
they
said
there
was
a
window
and
it
was
yeah.
You
know
where
could
they
go?
And
you
know
I
mean
there's
been
a
myth
so
long
that
that
was
like
an
underground
place
for
slaves
to
come
to
and.
O
B
I
I
love
it,
I
love
it
and
that's
the
whole
point.
Maybe
they
maybe
they
were
at
the
slave
house,
maybe
they
and
who
knows,
and
that's
what
makes
this
so
fabulous.
Is
that
it's
a
conversation
that
and
yes
you're
right,
it's
incredibly
uncomfortable,
I
I
it's
just
incredibly
uncomfortable
and
but
it
it
it
is.
It
is
the
historical
narrative,
the
only
thing
it
does
no
good
for
the
people
who
came
before
us,
but
it
is
the
way
that
it
is
no
longer
yes.
N
This
stuff
should
have
been
in
100
years
ago
in
his
history.
This
is
our
history.
This
is
what
we
did.
This
is
what
we
went
through
right.
You
know
if,
if,
if
this
had
been
addressed
a
hundred
years
ago,
we'd
be
in
a
different
situation,
I
think
yeah.
Here
we
are
bringing
up
these
amazing
stories,
I
think
of
frederick
douglass
and
what
he
went
through,
and
we
had
heard
that
a
long
time
ago
in
our
history
books
as
children,
yeah
trying
to
be
somewhere
very
different
now
you.
B
I
agree
with
you
and
the
only
and
this
isn't
this
isn't
to
make
it
any
less
painful
the
past
any
less
painful.
However,
we
do
have
a
platform
that
was
unimaginable
hundred
years
ago,
20
years
before
40
years
ago,
that
we
can
tell
this
story.
We
can
put
it
on
the
web,
we
can
remember
her
name,
we
can
learn
from
each
other
and
help
to
make
it
better.
It's
all.
We
can
do
it
it's
all
we
can
do.
It
is
true,
it's
true
you
know,
but
thank
you
for
that.
I
absolutely.
H
B
B
We
need
it,
it's
the
only
way
we
can
move
forward,
I
mean
and
when,
when
we
can
once
again
visit
have
the
carry
house
open,
I
mean
yes,
small
volunteers.
No,
we
have
a
small
group
of
volunteers.
We
do
not
have
any
staff,
whatever
we're,
not
meeting
there
we're
meeting
remotely
via
teleconferencing,
but
I'm
telling
you
I
mean
you
know
we
will
have
our
case
and
it's
very
important
to
all
of
us.
D
A
Children
so
that
absolutely
absolutely
a
date
for
all
of
us
here,
post
coding,
we
will
set
up
a
trip
to
the
carry
house,
as
we
did
in
elementary
school,
but
as
adults
because
inspiring
minds.
Do
you
want
to
know-
and
there's
still
many
unanswered
questions,
though
I
absolutely
cbc
will
be
following
up
with
karen
in
the
on
the
board
at
the
cary
house,
to
set
up
something,
and
hopefully
post
covid
as
close
as
next
year
during
black
history
month.
I
think
this
is
a
great
idea.
Thank.
B
You
say
again
how
how
I'm
very
cognizant
of
this
to
me
is
momentous.
You
and
I
have
spoken
about
this
and
it's
an
opportunity
that
I'm
just
so
happy
to
be
part
of,
and
it's
you
know
not
every
conversation,
and
I
don't
feel
broadly
at
all
I
mean
I,
you
know
I.
I
cannot
say
that
I
share
that
history,
but
doesn't
make
it
any
more
any
less
of
a
humanity
issue
for
me.
B
So
the
only
thing
we
can
do
is
be
welcome
now
and
we're
so
honored
as
a
group
to
be
part
of
this.
I'm
so
glad,
I'm
so
glad,
and
I
thank
you
all.
I
thank
everyone
who
participated
and
if
you
didn't,
if
you
didn't
get
a
question
now,
you
can
always
send
it
to
the
carey
house
and
and
then
come
and
visit,
we'll
have
more
than
one
party
when
we
can
absolutely
we'll
drag
cody
back
from
yes
from.
Q
Really
this
was
really
really
good
and
I
just
want
to
say
real
quickly.
My
takeaway
from
the
story
was
the
traditional
horrible
experience
that
that
we
have
that
we
have
that
we're
so
used
to
when
we
hear
stories
of
of
slavery
and
stories
of
how
things
used
to
be
in
the
past.
I
think
that
the
fact
that
you
can
you
can
get
so
much
detail
about
this
woman's
life
through
other
people's
letters
is,
is
a
testament
of
how
revered
this
pro
this
woman
was
to
be.
Q
Yeah,
so
it
wasn't
totally
negative.
I
mean
it.
It's
a
good,
it's
good
to
know
that
that
that
side,
this
you
know
like
one
example
of
that
that
sort
of
relationship
that
people
had
with
their
with
their
slaves
and
within
indentured
service,
so
it
wasn't
totally
negative
for
me,
it
was
actually
refreshing
to
hear
that
you
know
one
one
person
the
kiri
family
did
have
reference
for
this
woman,
and
you
didn't
hear
from
this
woman
at
all.
These
were.
A
Q
P
There's
a
fast
statement
for
me
if
possible.
I
would
just
like
to
say
what
karen
has
taught
us
tonight
is
something
that
we
should
be
doing
ourselves.
Also
before
my
grandmother
passed
in
mississippi
in
2011,
I
had
her
to
sit
down
and
go
back
as
far
as
she
could
and
list
all
of
her
relatives,
and
you
know
everybody
that
she
gave
me.
I
tracked
them
through
ancestry.com.
P
P
B
You
and
responding
to
this
encourages
me
it's
it's
it's
a
quest.
It
really
is
and
there's
something-
and
we
can
testify
to
this-
there
is
something
about
fanny
fairweather
that
he
wants
her
voice
to
be
heard,
and
we
are
all
facilitating
that
and
it's
a
it's
a
good
thing
in
a
world
where
there
aren't
always
good
things
yeah.
Thank
you.
J
She
lived
the
life
that
congressman
late,
congressman
john
lewis
lived
by,
which
is
get
in
good
trouble
and
she
stayed
in
good
trouble,
but
she,
you
know
what
I
mean,
so
I
think,
to
sum
it
all
up.
Her
life
was
way
before
good
trouble
is
good
to
be
in.
So
thank
you
again,
karen
for,
for
your
knowledge,.
H
B
A
And
I
think
I
think
as
to
piggyback
after
off
of
what
rochelle
said
that
was
so
used
to
hearing
a
different
story
that
for
you
to
shed
light
on
an
individual
that
had
a
different
experience
with
slavery
and
actually
was
taken
in
and
part
of
a
family
is
just
a
different
conversation
about
slavery.
So
I
thank
you
for
basically
sharing
that
with
us
to
know
that
it
wasn't
all
a
hard
life
and
and
and
sadness
and
torture
that
this
actually
is
documented
through
the
letters.
A
So
I
thank
you
for
sharing
that
with
us
karen
and
I
we
have
three
minutes
left.
So
I'm
glad
all
of
you
came
into
our
home
this
evening
and
and
and
we
had
some
healthy
conversation
discussion
and
definitely
walked
away
or
walking
away
a
little
smarter
in
regards
to
the
bellingham,
carry
house
and
fanny
kerry
fairweather.
So
thank
you
for
joining
us
this
evening
and
I
just
want
to
reinvite
you
to
our
next
event,
which
is
february
10
and
that's
next
wednesday
same
time
same
place.