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From YouTube: City Council Sub Committee of 7-26-12
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City of Chelsea, Discuss appropriation of $75,000 for appraisal and consulting services for the possible eminent domain of parcels in Suffolk and Congress Avenue.
A
We'll
now
start
the
6
pm
meeting
of
the
subcommittee
meeting
on
discuss
the
appropriation
of
75
000
for
appraisal
and
consulting
services
for
the
possible
imminent
domain
of
parcels
in
park
and
suffolk
and
congress
and
shaman.
I
asked
my
colleagues
to
please
put
their
phones
on
vibrate.
If
you
do
have
a
phone,
the
clerk
will
now
take
a
roll.
We
did
invite
city
manager,
tom
abrazino,
the
honorable
members
of
the
city
council,
the
neighborhood
developers,
parcel
owners
of
the
area
and
members
of
the
public.
B
C
A
We're
going
to
start
the
conversation
on
the
the
appropriation
of
the
75
000,
I
asked
and
we
had
the
property
owners
identified
and
sent
letters
so
that
they
can
will
go
over
the
different
parcels
that
were
discussed.
I
have
the
city
manager
here.
I
do
ask
the
members
of
the
public
if
you've
not
been
here
before
that,
we
do
ask
you
to
adhere
to
decorum.
A
A
Please
do
not
speak
over
anyone
else
so
that
we
can
have
and
hear
everybody
as
each
individual
is
talking.
So,
yes,
counselor,
garcia,.
D
I
just
want
to
be
fully
transparent,
mr
chairman,
that
I
will
have
to
recuse
myself
if
there
is
any
conversation
about
property,
15,
shaman
street
19,
shaman
street
and
23
chamet
street
full
disclosure.
I
am
an
employee
at
the
neighborhood
developers
and
this
will
present
the
conflict
of
interest,
so
I
will
have
to
recuse
myself
if
a
conversation
regarding
those
three
properties
do
arises.
Thank
you.
A
Understood
so
just
so
that
people
are
aware
this
order
was
sent
to
the
city
manager
and
then
to
ask
about
the
doing
an
appraisal
he
presented
in
order
and
that
order
was
for
75
000
if
we
were
to
hire
a
consultant
to
discuss
these
parcels.
So
at
this
time
I'll
ask
the
city
manager
if
we
want
to
go
over
the
suggested
parcels
and
then
and
then
that
and
then
further
talk
to
the
individual
owners
of
those
parcels.
So.
E
But,
as
I
stated
you
in
my
letter,
my
may
11th
letter,
which
hopefully
you
have
a
copy
of
basically
the
first
step
is
you
have
to
appraise
the
apostles,
because,
if
you're
taking
parcels
by
eminent
domain,
you
have
to
offer
the
owners
of
the
paso
the
appraised
value
of
the
property
and
that's
called
the
pro
tonto
offer.
They
don't
have
to
settle
for
that
offer.
E
The
first
step
is,
you
have
to
have
an
appraisal
once
the
appraisal
is
returned,
then,
if
you
still
want
to
move
forward,
you
have
to
make
an
appropriation
to
pay
the
price
you
have
to
have
an
order
of
taking
and
a
public
hearing
on
that
order
of
taking,
and
then
you
vote
to
acquire
the
property
that
appropriation
vote
to
actually
acquire
the
property
is
the
vote
that
requires
a
supermajority
of
the
council.
It
requires
eight
of
11
votes
to
move
forward,
to
take
someone's
property
for
eminent
domain
purposes.
E
So,
as
I
said,
the
first
step
is:
if
you
wanted
to
proceed,
we
have
to
get
an
appraiser
to
go
out
and
appraise
these
properties,
but
in
addition
to
that,
I
also
recommended
that,
if
you're
really
serious
about
this,
you
need
to
hire
a
consultant
to
take
a
look
at
these
parcels
and
see
what
conceivably
could
you
build
on
these
parcels
if
you
really
wanted
to
acquire
them
for
affordable
housing?
Most
of
these
are
very
small
parcels
in
and
of
themselves.
E
E
If,
if
this
is,
if
you're
serious
about
this,
in
addition
to
appraising
the
property,
you
probably
want
a
consultant
to
tell
you
what
you
could
conceive,
what
value
they
would
have
for
you
for
affordable
housing
purposes,
and
so
the
seventy
five
thousand
dollar
figure
that
I
provided
for.
You
is
both
what
we
estimate
would
be
the
cost
of
the
appraiser
and
the
cost
of
the
consultant.
A
Mr
city
manager,
the
the
zone
that
we're
looking
at,
is
an
r2.
I
just
put
the
overlay
if
you
can
see
on
the
map
there,
so
that
is
an
r2
district.
What
is
the
we?
I
know
that
the
city
council
did
not
pass
the
most
latest
proposals
for
any
changes
in
density,
so
currently,
for
example,
if
we
look
at
some
of
these
lots,
most
of
them,
I
believe,
are.
E
Unbuildable,
the
minimum
watt
size
and
r2
for
a
single
family
is
5
000
square
feet
to
build
a
two.
You
need.
Seven
thousand
square
feet
need
thirty
five
hundred
a
unit
to
build
a
two
family
home
in
the
r2
district.
So
you
need
seven
thousand
square
feet
to
build
a
two
family,
but
you
can
build
a
one
family
home
under
the
current
zoning.
If
you
have
five
thousand
square
feet
so.
A
E
G
A
The
idea
is
if
they
were
to
be
taken,
then
you
could
assemble
a
few
of
them
together
and
basically
have
some
sort
of
multi-family
building
there.
A
E
A
As
far
as
using
the
eminent
domain,
that's
the
procedure
that
we've
done
in
the
past,
for
example,
to
assemble
lots.
We
took
the
commercial
properties
and
residential
problems.
Well,
not
so
much
residential
lots,
but
there
was
a
mix
of
residential
lots
and
commercial
lots
in
the
urban
redis
in
the
urban
zone.
Correct
where
one
north
is
right
now.
E
G
G
The
council
did
approve
eminent
domain
takings,
however,
in
order
to
avoid
the
long
drawn-out
process
that
the
city
manager
did
talk
to
about
a
possibility
of
any
any
owner
challenging
me,
because
they,
the
city,
decided
to
negotiate
with
them,
as
you
would
any
other
buyer.
So.
A
I
recall
being
on
the
city
council
we,
so
we
voted
to
give
the
power
of
eminent
domain
to
then.
I
guess
the
economic
development
board,
but
they
in
fact
didn't
use
it.
They
just
used
fundings
and
used
the
possibility
to
negotiate
just
a
deal,
knowing
that
it's
either
sell
or
we're
going
to
take
it
and
then
go
to
court.
That
way.
Basically,
yes,
okay,
council,
brown.
G
In
the
it
was
both
the.
G
H
G
A
Council,
do
you
have
a
question
for
either
the
city
manager
or
tom
or
john?
I
got
a
question
for
john.
I
For
many
years,
mr
lewis,
which
is
sitting
right,
there,
has
been
wanting
to
build
a
house
in
the
back
of
his
property
and
they
always
denied
them
to
build
houses.
Could
let's
say
they
want
to
build
houses
where
they
are
now
right?
How
they
go
about
doing
it?
Could
they
get
a
variance
since
they
don't
meet
the
lot
size
for
years,
they've
been
telling
me
they
want
to
build
and
the
city's
telling
them
they
cannot
build.
So
now,
let's
say
they
want
to
build.
I
G
They
can
always
apply
for
a
variance
you
can
apply,
for
a
variance
doesn't
mean
that
you'll
always
receive
the
variance.
There
are
four
conditions
of
the
variance
and
you
have
to
meet
all
four
of
them,
and
the
board
zoning
board
will
make
that
determination
of
whether
they
meet
all
four
of
variances.
If
they
don't
meet
any
of
those
conditions,
they
generally
will
not
grant
the
variance
you
can
ask
for
it.
There's
no
guarantee
you're
not
guaranteed
a
variance.
I
I
just
want
them
to
know
because
for
years
they've
been,
you
know,
they've
been
telling
me
they
wanted
to
build
and
they
were
always
denied.
So
it's
not
up
there
doing
that
they
do
not
want
to
build.
They
don't
want
to
do
their
lots
whatever
they
want
to
do
to
it
right.
So
that's
what
I'm
saying
if
they
decide
they
wanted
to
build,
I
seen
lots
their
size
being
built.
E
E
J
E
Would
say
my
personal
philosophy
is
it?
You
really
should
have
a
compelling
strong
purpose,
especially
when
you're
taking
public
property
against
the
in
the
wishes
of
the
owner
of
that
property.
So
in
my
career
in
government
I
have
been
very
reluctant
to
take
public
property
when
owners
have
been
unwilling
and
so
and
how
I
can
the
exhibit.
The
example
that
I
can
talk
about
here
is
when
we
were
building
built.
Building
the
clock
avenue
school.
E
A
A
None
of
them
have
an
existing
home
on
top
of
them.
Okay,
just
wanna
does
that
you
pointed
to
a
particular
example,
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
understood
that
was
yes,
ms
swope.
I
believe
that
lived
there.
E
A
If
you
insist
on
speaking
out
over
the
others
who
are
speaking,
then
that
then
you
will
be
asked
to
leave
because
we're
trying
to
have
an
opportunity
for
everyone
to
speak,
and
if
you
want
to
try
to
yell
and
talk
over
it,
then
you
will
be
asked
to
leave
okay.
Okay,
so
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
talk.
A
Okay,
so
just
thank
you.
The
first
person
who
I'd
like
to
call
up
is
the
owners
of
46
suffolk
street
on
record.
It's
identified
up
here
in
the
yellow
bracket,
and
it's
the
listed
here
is
henry
lewis.
A
A
Is
this
the
I'm
sorry,
please
state.
A
Lewis,
yes,
sir,
this
area,
that's
behind
the
minivan
here-
is
that
the
parcel
that
we're
talking
about
yes,
sir
correct.
K
A
That
is
correct,
and
that
is
the
parcel
that,
where
that
you,
that
your
family
owns.
I
A
I
have
the
right
property.
Don't
worry,
please
explain
the
history
of
the
parcel
that
you
have
current
use
and
previous
intentions.
It
was
noted
tonight
that
you
may
have
tried
to
build
on
this,
but
right
now
we
see,
I
think
I
don't
know.
If
there's
anything
is
that
van
still
there
that
one
in
the.
A
K
First,
I'd
like
to
thank
everybody
for
being
here
tonight.
I
appreciate
your
time
and
I
appreciate
you
giving
me
the
chance
to
speak.
My
family
has
owned
95
essex
street,
my
entire
life
and
the
land
in
the
back.
There
used
to
be
a
garage
in
the
back,
a
two-car
garage
and
my
family
tore
it
down
because
they
were
trying
to
build
one
family
house
down
there.
K
The
reason
they
were
trying
to
build
that
house
is
to
move
down
the
back
and
to
renovate
fix
and
rent
out
the
three
family
95
essex
street.
However,
they
were
not
able
to
build
because,
like
they
said
they
tried
to
get
a
variance,
they
were
denied
and
they
have
pursued
it.
They
went
to
an
architect,
they
got
blueprints
drawn
up
and
so
forth,
and
so
on.
K
Right
now
the
land
is
used
primarily
for
growing
vegetables.
I
put
a
tarp
down
there.
I
put
cardboard
and
hay
down
to
get
the
ground
ready.
That
big
tree
is
a
mulberry
tree
in
which
we
harvest
mulberries
from
I
make
mulberry
jam.
Mulberry
wine
mulberry,
like
you
know,
scones
they're,
actually
pretty
good.
K
We
also
do
use
the
art
for
parking
and
the
occasion
that
there
is
no
parking
when
we
come
home
when
I
come
home
from
work
or
when
my
mother,
when
she
used
to
work,
she's,
retired
now
and
disabled,
you
know
so
sometimes
we
had
to
park
in
front
of
that's.
Why
all
the
signs,
because
and
the
the
painted
things,
because
you
know
the
area
is
very
congested
as
it
is
a
lot
of
times.
There
is
no
parking,
not
even
there's
people
park
in
front
of
the
yard.
K
A
couple
hours
of
sleep
is,
you
know,
I
mean
a
couple
hours
of
sleep,
you
know,
but
moving
forward.
I
don't
feel
that
the
city
should
take
land
from
anybody.
That's
worked
hard,
their
entire
lives.
My
my
father
used
to
deliver
bread,
wonder
bread,
my
mother.
She
used
to
work
three
hours.
Three
shifts
sometimes
back
to
back
90
hour
work
weeks
right
just
to
try
to
give
us
more
than
what
they
had
growing
up.
K
You
know
my
mother
is
very
upset
about
this.
My
father
is
very
upset
too.
However,
he's
not
here
today
because
he's
sick,
you
know,
I
don't
think
this
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
You
know
I
mean
every
one
of
you
live
in
the
city,
I'm
sure
you
all
love
the
city
and
I'm
sure
everybody
wants
what's
best
for
the
city.
K
You
know
if
we
can't
build
on
it.
How
is
it,
how
is
it
even
feasible
to
propose
more
housing
built
on
it?
It
doesn't
make
sense
to
me.
Yes,
the
land
is
vacant,
but
that's
because
we
weren't
allowed
to
build
on
it.
Otherwise,
there'd
be
a
one
family
house
down
there
and
we'd
be
paying
taxes
on
that
one
family
house,
we
had
an
architect
drop
a
plan
with
two-car
parking
on
our
land.
K
Granted
the
house
would
be
pushed
all
the
way
back
to
our
property
line,
but
we
did
follow
those
those
guidelines.
You
know
and
our
neighbor
here
jobina.
She
owns
a
lot.
Next
to
us,
we
tried
to
we,
we
talked
about
combining
our
lots
and
which
is
something
that
we're
still
talking
about
and
the
land.
Next
to
it.
We
we
also
try
to
acquire,
I
believe
maria
tried
to
acquire.
K
I
know
I
personally
went
down
and
spoke
to
jimmy
and
tried
to
acquire
it
last
year,
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
in
order
to
try
to
increase
our
land
mass,
you
know
so
that
we
could
build
you
know
and
not
fight
for
the
variants.
A
K
Yes,
we
we
can,
we
can
go
back
and
look
at
that.
Do
you
know
what
office
I
would
go
to
or.
A
A
A
Yet
there's
nothing
there
yet
that
the
that's
the
there's
nothing
being
well.
That's
a
good
sign.
There's
nothing!
Just.
A
K
Well,
one
the
price
of
75
000
is
really
low.
I
offered
jimmy,
I
think,
74
or
something,
and
he
basically
laughed
at
me-
respect
jimmy
jimmy
who
demiko,
oh
okay,
you
know
you
know,
even
though
he
can't
build
on
the
land
he
doesn't
like
to
give
up
on
anything,
and
I
I
understand
that
you
know
land
is
land,
especially
in
a
city
like
this.
Imagine
a
parcel
like
that
in
boston
or
brookline.
G
G
K
So
my
mother
says
that
there
was
a
two-family
building
there
prior
to
them
owning
the
land.
So
she
believes
that
it's
grandfathered
in
which
is.
K
And
forth
so
so,
another
thing
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
is
I'm
further
up
on
suffolk
street.
There
is
a
brand
new
condo
that
was
built
on
a
lan
on
two
condos
on
land
that
that's
a
lot
smaller
than
allah
and
it's
brand
new
construction.
It
was
built
from
the
foundation
up,
they
tore
down
the
old
building
and
they
built
a
new
building
and
seeing
something
like
that
go
up
and
having
been
told,
we
cannot
build
on
our
land,
is
a
slap
in
the
face.
A
A
Saying
about
your
denial
before
I
compare
to
what
was
offered,
I
can't
compare
I'd
like
to
see
what
happened
if
you're
telling
me
about
something
that
was
offered
10
years
ago.
It
was
a
different
atmosphere.
The
goals
of
the
administration
had
a
different
city
manager
and
such
so.
What
got
passed
now
is
different
than
what
could
have
been
passed
years
ago
or
denied.
So
I
would
venture
I
would
encourage
you
to
maybe
reconsider
refiling
and
getting
something
done.
K
Now,
can
I
ask
a
question:
what
is
the,
what
is
the
tax
benefit
for
affordable
housing
versus
owner
occupied
house
so
say
if
my
family
built
a
one
family
down
there
and
say
that
maria
and
her
son
built
the
one
family
down
there?
What
would
be
if,
if
we
paid
our
taxes
on
that
land,
okay,
which
we
which
we
do,
but
if
we
pay
the
taxes
on
the
land
with
the
house
there?
Okay,
would
that
not
be
more
of
an
incentive
to
the
city
than
having
affordable
housing
there
plus
we're
owners?
A
K
B
A
A
K
K
K
K
What
was
that
ken,
if
we
did
apply
for
the
variance
on
the
land
now,
like
you,
said
you
weren't
on
the
council
eight
years
ago,
you
are
now
if
we
applied
for
the
variance
now,
what
odds
would
we
have
of
the
variance
being
approved
with
now
some
of
our
council
members
proposing
this
here?
Move
I
mean,
would
it
be?
K
G
A
I
don't
know
what
you
filed
eight
years
ago
or
plus
years
ago.
I
can't
remember
the
plans,
but
I
would
encourage
you
to
say
yeah.
If
you
want
to
build
a
home
for
your
daughter,
I
mean
that's
encouraged,
I
would
say
yes
go
ahead
and
file,
something
you
have
land
and
you
can
have,
and
you
have
precedent
of
pointing
to
what
was
going
on
up
the
street
and
say
look.
I
can
build
a
single
fam
or
two
fam
on
this
lot
and
still
provide
enough
space.
Yeah.
B
B
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
so
I
will
make
a
comment.
I
will
make
a
statement
and
I
will
also
ask
a
question:
if
that's
okay,
so
I
want
to
make
it
very
clear
something
that
has
not
been
established.
It
was
said
here
that
there's
an
idea
and
that's
why
we're
meeting
here
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
some
of
the
counselors
present
here
are
not
in
support
of
this,
so
I
do
want
to
make
that
clear.
D
The
other
question
that
the
question
I
do
want
to
ask
now
that
I've
established
that,
and
I
guess
the
comment
that
I
want
to
make
before
I
make
that
question.
Is
I
personally
echo
the
sentiments
of
the
city
manager?
I
do
not
believe
it
is
the
government's
it's
not
correct
for
the
government
to
exert
power
in
terms
of
taking
over
property,
especially
of
of
constituents.
So
I
am
not
in
favor
of
this.
I
am
actually
not
even
aware
how
we
have
these
parcels
and
how
these
parcels
were
selected
or
who
selected
these
parcels.
D
D
A
A
The
there
were
a
number
of
apostles
in
that
area
that
have
been
actually
bought
over
some
are
owned
by
corporations,
others
are
being
thought
of
opened
as
a
park,
so
we
thought
of
taking
a
look
at
all
of
the
parcels
in
that
area.
A
D
Okay,
so
now,
if
john
depressive,
you
can
come
forward,
please.
D
So,
just
to
clarify,
I
think
I
think
the
chairman
has
given
enough
some
background
as
to
why
these
properties
as
to
what
were
some
of
the
criteria
behind
these
properties.
I'd
like
to
hear
now
that
I
hear
that
this
is
a
we
effort.
What
productivity
do
you
see
behind
of
taking?
Do
you
really
anticipate
these
parcels
to
be
useful
for
affordable
housing.
G
If
combined
to
build
buildable
lots,
they
could
be
developed
for
affordable
housing.
Yes,.
E
I'm
trying
to
make
please
stand
from
the
council.
This
was
an
order
passed
by
the
city
council
directing
me
to
look
at
these
apostles
and
give
you
a
plan
for
taking
them.
You
directed
me,
I
then
came
back.
You
said
the
plan,
there's
only
one
plan
for
any
kind
of
eminent
domain
taking
and
the
plan
requires
you
to
start
with
an
appraisal.
So
if
you
really
want
to
do
this,
you
have
to
appropriate
money
to
do
an
appraisal.
E
But
I
think
we
might
find
those
spots
in
the
city
in
locations
that
don't
generate
such
neighborhood
opposition,
because
there
are
tax,
title
parcels
that
exist
out
there
and
we've
started
down
that
process
with
orange
street.
There
are
some
other
vacant
parcels
that
could
be
could
provide
an
opportunity-
and
maybe
some
of
these
eastern
minerals
owned
parcels
have
an
opportunity.
D
L
Yes,
my
question
would
be:
how
can
we
we
want
to
take
these
parcels
away
from
the
owners
when
they
haven't
been
allowed
to
build
and
and
if
we,
they
haven't,
been
allowed
to
build?
A
I
wanted
to
move
on
to
the
well
hold
on.
I
think
we
did
talk
to
the
mr
lewis,
so
I
wanted
to
see
if
50
50.
A
L
E
E
We
would
have
if,
if
this
council
moved
forward
and
took
these
parcels,
the
city
would
combine
the
different
parcels
and
create
buildable
lots.
So
these
lots
aren't
buildable
as
they
currently
exist
these
these
owners,
if
they
wish
to
build
in
the
absence
of
a
variance
they're,
getting
a
variance,
you
can
seek
a
variance
whether
you
get
it
that's
up
to
the
zoning
board
of
appeals,
but
in
the
absence
of
a
variance,
it
is
my
opinion
that
none
of
these
lots
are
buildable.
They
would
have
to
be
combined.
E
E
J
But
I
guess
my,
but
I
guess
my
question
is
I
mean
that
counselor
lopez
had
had
had
a
good
question.
Is
that
if,
from
my
perspective,
you
only
use
eminent
domain
in
in
extreme
circumstances,
and
and
so
and
so
you
know,
that's
why
I
was
asking
you
earlier
if
this
is
truly
a
compelling
reason
to
do
this,
and
because
that's
how
I
would
make
my
decision
on
whether
to
support
such
a
such
an
action.
But.
J
And
there
is
a
housing
shortage.
There's
no
question
about
that,
so
you
know,
but
I
guess
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is
is
that
you
know
if,
if
we're,
proposing
or
or
investigating
the
possibility
of
taking
these
properties,
when
they've
been
they've
been
told
that
they
can't
do
it
individually,
they
could
combine
their
own
by
you
know
getting
a
lawyer
and
forming
an
llc
and
everybody
put
their
thing
into
the
pot
and
and
and
going
to
going
to
see
a
developer
themselves.
They
could
do.
J
It
just
looks
bad
I
think,
to
to
when
to
if
we're
going
to
say
to
somebody
that
we're
you
can't
build,
but
now
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna,
take
it
from
you
and
build
ourselves.
So
I
mean
that
just
and
I
understand
that
there
is
an
interest
in
the
city
to
provide
more
housing.
There
is
a
dearth
of
housing,
especially
because,
despite
the
census
numbers,
more
people
are
coming
into
the
city.
E
A
J
K
I'm
sure
you
would
you're
going
to
hear
from
mindo.
The
thing
is:
is
you
propose
this
bill.
G
A
You
you
wanted
an
answer,
I'm
looking
at
in,
in
where
there
were
a
number
of
different
properties.
The
city
was
looking
at
and
still
is
to
look
at
possible
sites.
I
brought
up
these
possible
sites
as
a
whole,
primarily
because
one
particular
entity,
eastern
minerals
purchased
a
large
number
of
those
parcels
down
the
street
and
rather
than
just
pick
one
site,
I
picked
a
number
of
them
together.
A
Sites
that
hadn't
been
built
on
now
engage
the
conversation,
I'm
still
waiting
to
hear
from
the
other
owners
of
the
land.
One
of
the
parcels
that
we
were
going
to
look
at
was
already
on
the
books
as
not
on
the
books,
but
was
already
suggested,
was
going
to
be
donated
to
the
city,
so
it
was
all
part.
It
was
a
big
picture,
look
at
it,
not
just
your
property
and
so
forth,
but
we
needed
to
engage.
A
A
I
didn't
didn't
do
this
in
a
vacuum,
there's
a
reason
why
this
meeting
is
being
held
is
to
hear
from
everybody
the
point
that
was
the
point
to
say:
hey
this
I've
been
living
in
chelsea
for
all
my
life
and,
as
many
times
have
driven
down
suffolk
street.
I've
seen
nothing
but
empty
lots
on
this,
and
I
get
calls
repeatedly
from
people
the
pressure
that
we
feel
from
people
who
are
being
pushed
out
and
can't
afford
to
live
here
anymore.
A
So
there
is
pressure
to
say:
hey:
can
we
find
locations
and
lots
in
the
city
to
build
and
have
affordable
home
ownership
opportunities
rather
than
lose
our
residence?
So
yes,
I
am
not
ashamed
to
say
that
in
thinking
of
possible
solutions,
I
said,
let's
take
a
look
down
the
street
and
engage
and
see.
Maybe
you
want
to
sell
the
lot?
Maybe
you
don't-
I
don't
know,
but
if
I
don't
knock
on
your
door
and
at
least
ask
what
am
I
doing
here?
A
If
I
don't
even
knock
on
your
door
without
asking
the
question:
do
you
want
to
sell
then
there
we
go,
but
it
may
not
be
your
lot.
That
gets
sold,
but
it
may
be
the
lot
next
door,
but
the
conversation
has
to
happen.
I
feel
yes,
I
ma'am.
This
is
the
first
time
I've
reached
and
talked
to
anybody.
I
don't
know
who
you're
talking
about,
but
I've
never
talked
to
your
husband
whatever,
but
anyway.
This
is
why
it
all
started.
A
Absolutely.
I
working
looking
at
all
different
lots
across
the
city,
whether
it
be
orange
street
willow
street,
whatever
looked
everywhere
and
decided,
and
I
and
I
will
talk
to
my
colleague
for
cooper-
he's
the
first
one
who
said
I'm
not
crazy
about
the
idea,
but
we
should
at
least
talk
to
everybody.
I
said
absolutely,
let's
invite
everybody
in
let's
invite
everybody
in
and
we'll
have
a
talk
about
it.
That's
what
this
is.
I
know
it's
upsetting,
but
if,
but
but
what
was
the
risk
of
saying
hey?
A
M
A
M
M
A
A
B
M
M
Let's
continue
the
conversation
right
because
your
family's
been
here
for
a
long
long
long
time-
and
I
know
your
brother
very
well-
you
guys
built
the
city,
half
the
city,
still
own
half
of
it,
that's
beautiful
what
you
did!
How
come?
We
can't
do
that.
How
come
we
can't
do
the
same
thing,
which
is
build
a
city
like
your
family
did
and
built
and
built,
and
now
it's
strong
never
going
to
fall
down.
That's
what
we're
trying
to
build
for
our
family,
generational
wealth
that
you've
built
for
your
family.
M
So
you
can't
take
that
from
us.
You
can't
take
that
general
generational
wealth
from
us,
no
matter
what
we
want
to
do
with
our
land
where's
the
picture
of
my
land,
because
I'd
like
to
talk
to
you
about
my
specific
land.
I
have
two
specific
trucks
there.
I
own
a
business
that
the
city
signed
off
on
for
me
to
run.
I
need
that
yard
to
run
my
business
check
out
my
truck
my
cleaning
truck
check
out
my
next
truck
right.
Next
to
it.
I
also
parked
back
there.
M
M
So
not
only
will
you
be
putting
me
out
of
the
house
out
of
my
yard
you're
putting
my
business
out,
so
you
can
knock
me
out
and
my
business,
because
where
am
I
going
to
keep
my
product
and
my
truck
and
where
am
I
going
to
do
all
that
so
you're
taking
two
things
out
when
you
do
that
right,
that's
that's
just
my
yard,
okay,
my
elderly
mother.
Where
would
she
park?
M
I
think
the
law
in
chelsea,
I'm
not
sure,
and
if
I'm
wrong,
please
enlighten
me,
but
I
believe
you
have
to
have
two
parkings
for
each
house
right.
I
thought
that
it's
like
the
variance
when
you
build
now.
So
if
we
take
that
away,
we
don't
have
no
parking
so
we'll
be
willing
to
work
with
you
guys
if
you
guys
want
to
buy
our
land
but
we're
looking
at
like
10
million
dollars,
because
it's
worth
that
much
to
us.
M
M
M
About
it,
okay,
40
years
in
my
family,
okay,
my
two
trucks
are
there,
because
I
own
the
business
that
I
run
just
like
your
family
has
for
many
years
building
generational
wealth.
I
need
that
yard
to
run
my
business
because
I
need
to
park
my
trucks
and
my
equipment
comes
out
of
my
backyard.
I
need
to
carry
that
to
work
so
you're
trying
to
take
me
out
of
business.
M
A
M
M
M
I
don't
know
I
might
just
change
my
mind
in
the
future.
I'm
telling
you
what
I
use
it
for
today
is
to
run
my
business
out
of
my
backyard
at
my
mother's
park
and
my
tenants
who
own
two
vehicles
each.
So
if
you
come
back
there
at
night,
you'll
see
it
full.
So
what
we're
saying
today,
it's
parking
tomorrow,
depending
on
how
this
turns
out
me
and
then
we'll
get
together
and
make
this
a
long,
drawn-out
process
and
try
to
build
ourselves.
We're
not
letting
you
take
it.
So
it's
not
going
down
that
easy.
M
L
A
You
is
alan
phillips
here.
Is
there
an
allen,
phillips.
A
There,
no
thank
you.
Okay,
julio
marin
is
there
julio
marin,
sir.
I
gave
you
the
opportunity
to
talk.
I
gave
you
the
opportunity
to
talk.
You've
had
your
opportunity
to
talk,
I'm
now
asking
you
to
please
hold
it
in
so
other
people
can
talk.
Thank
you
just
be
considerate.
We
were,
I
don't
think
anyone
here
was
rude.
So
just
ask
ask.
A
P.J
kilmartin
p
j
k,
martin.
Thank
you
andrew
tolo.
No,
that's
they
they're
coming
out.
Another
night
is
there
and
your
total
still
the
same
andrew
rotolo,
boston
heights
and
first
andrea
tolos
andrew
tolos.
A
How's
it
going
good
evening
so
rafael
tnd
has
three
small
lots
on
the
corner.
There
it's
used
as
a
community
garden.
I
don't
expect
anything
to
be
changed
there
in
any
time
near
future,
but
you
also
have,
I
think,
51
suffolk
street,
which
is
just
a
little
pocket
there
have.
Has
there
been
any
discussions
so
far,
yet
possible
use
or
anything
you
know
what's
the
and
how
did
you
come
up
with
that?
Little
pocket
before,
in
the
middle
of
all
that.
F
So
I
don't,
I
don't
know
the
history
of
how
we
ended
up
with
that
parcel.
That
was
long
before
my
time,
but
I
I
can
tell
you
that
we
are
very
interested
in
developing
into
affordable
housing.
I
just
think
that
that
lot
is
too
small
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
that.
F
F
F
A
Thank
you,
council.
Is
there
any
questions
so
far?
No!
Thank
you.
I
thank
you
everybody
for
appearing
tonight.
There
are
two
individuals
that
could
not
make
it
here
tonight
with
their
team.
One
was
joe
mcnamee
from
eastern
minerals
who
owns
a
significant
area
of
the
street
parcels
from
64
68.
All
the
way
to
78
on
the
other
side.
Also
not
available
was
jimmy
d'amico.
He
did
text
me
earlier
tonight
and
said
he
could
not
make
it.
A
I
told
them
what
I'm
going
to
tell
you
is
that
the
city
council
is
not
planning
on
making
any
moves
at
all
at
this
point
on
this
parcel
without
again
talking
to
everybody
so
being
that
eastern
minerals
is
the
major
one
of
the
major
land
owners
there,
we
need
to
have
a
conversation
with
them
figure
out
what
their
plans
are
for
everything
I.
I
know
this
type
of
conversation
with
you.
Many
of
you
was
upsetting.
A
I
get
it,
I
didn't
expect
it
not
to
be,
but
again
it
was
an
invitation
to
talk
about
what
was
going
on
in
the
street
and
what
the
plans
were
other
than
recupero.
Many
of
my
colleagues
here
tonight
were
not
aware
of
what
was
going
on
in
that
area,
so
I
don't
mind
being
the
bad
guy
and
starting
the
conversation.
A
But
again
it
was
just
to
have
a
conversation.
I
honestly
feel
the
same
way
as
my
colleague
recupera
about
taking
you
know.
Land
from
individual
families
are
being
used.
That
wasn't
the
goal,
but
I
thought
we
need
to
talk
to
these
people
to
figure
out
if
they
have
any
sort
of
plan
and
if
you
can't
get
together
again,
the
city
manager
says
we
could
possibly
buy
it.
But
if
we
don't
have
the
conversation,
we
don't
know.
A
So
again
there
are
going
to
be
other
properties
that
the
city
will
be
taking
over
by
eminent
domain
or
by
tax
title
that
won't
put
that
up
any
sort
of
fight
we'll
go
through
this
and
some
they
will.
But
again
we
need
to
engage
with
everybody
when
we
wouldn't
be
doing
our
jobs.
If
we
didn't
talk
to
everybody
before
making
any
sort
of
decisions,
but
again
I
appreciate
we
will
have
another
meeting
most
likely
have
it
prior
to
our
next
regularly
scheduled
meeting
and
then
we'll
go
forward
from
there.
A
I
know
you
don't
come
here
too
often
and
it's,
but
I
appreciate
you
coming
out
and
talking
and
feel
free
to
talk
to
any
one
of
our
colleagues
here,
recuperate
myself
leo
robinson's
at
large,
my
colleague
demoli's,
not
here,
but
the
largest
too,
if
you
feel
at
any
point
in
time
feel
free
to
give
us
a
call
and
talk
to
us
if
any
concerns
at
all
and
not
just
about
this,
but
anything
else
with
that.
Unless
there's
any
other
questions,
I
will
be
adjourning
this
or
continuing
this
to
a
future
time.