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From YouTube: Planning Board Meeting of 9-27-22
Description
City of Chelsea
B
Right
John,
would
you
call
a
roll
call,
please
Jessica
abasa
Charlie
McLean
Sarah
Neville,
Allen
million
Mimi
rankato
here
Sarah
rich
here,
Khalil
Sadiq
duck
Willis
here,
but
you
have
a
quorum.
A
F
F
Next
slide,
please
that's
a
looking
West!
This
is
looking
East
next
slide.
This
is
the
plot
plan
for
the
subject
property.
As
you
can
see,
the
garage
is
closely
to
the
front
of
the
property.
The
land
slopes
down
to
the
back.
F
At
about
20
feet
overall,
to
pitching
down
downhill
next
slide,
please
we're
proposing
to
tear
down
the
garage.
We
propose
to
erect
a
single-family
home
on
the
footprint
on
the
existing
footprint,
and
this
is
a
rendition
of
what
the
front
of
those
would
look
like
next
slide.
Please,
and
this
would
be
the
rear
of
the
house.
What
you
see
around
the
property
perimeter
is
a
low
height,
picket
fence
with
Shrubbery
and
other
Landscaping
the
trees.
F
F
This
is
a
project
that
was
approved
by
the
board
of
appeal
and
the
planning
board
back
in
014.
This
shows
you
the
difference
in
the
project
today,
we've
reduced
it
in
size,
the
red
is
the
red
outline
is
what
was
approved
back
in
2014.
F
Today,
you
have
before
your
plans
showing
you
in
blue
what
we
are
proposing
today,
the
red
decks
have
been
eliminated,
the
rear
deck
all
the
way
over
low
height,
rear
deck
has
been
eliminated.
The
third
floor
in
the
rear
has
been
eliminated
and,
and
that's
pretty
much
the
difference.
What
you
see
before
you
today
from
214.
F
This
is:
was
there
another
slide
before
that
Mr
depriest?
Okay,
that's
fine!
Well,
back
to
this
one
before
I
show
you
the
first
floor
plans
out.
If
you
see
the
line
going
through
the
street
grade,
just
to
orient
you
for
the
next
slides
coming
up.
There
are
two
levels
above
the
street
grade
and
two
levels
below
the
street
grade
next
slide.
F
So
this
is
the
first
floor
level
above
the
street
grade
it's
at
grade.
It
consists,
half
of
it
is
taken
up
by
a
two-car
garage
which
is
actually
existing,
the
other
part
of
the
home.
There
is
two
bedrooms:
a
bath
laundry
and
the
stairs
that
go
down.
It's
a
second
means
of
regress
are
within
the
addition.
It's
a
27
by
16
foot
Edition
to
the
back
of
the
structure,
and
it
has
a
four
foot
by
ten
and
a
half
foot
balcony
next
slide.
F
This
is
the
second
floor
above
Street
Glade
grade
it's
more
or
less
the
great
room.
It
has
the
kitchen
living
room,
dining
area.
What
you
see
is
a
roof
deck
above
the
story
below
it's
been
reduced
in
size.
It
at
one
point
it
was
took
the
whole
perimeter
of
the
roof,
but
that
we've
reduced
that
in
size,
after
speaking
with
the
neighbor,
had
some
concerns
and
we'll
we'll
talk
about
that
shortly.
F
F
This
is
this
first
story
below
the
street
grade.
The
stairway
continues
down
to
the
backyard
for
the
rare
egress.
It
has
a
bedroom,
it
has
its
own
bathroom.
This
is
this
is
not
a
separate
unit.
It's
open
and
common
as
you'll
see
in
the
next
slide.
It's
open
and
common,
so
upstairs
and
open
and
common
to
the
story
below
next
slide.
F
This
is
the
grade
level.
The
basement
Waco
patio
with
pavers
on
Greed,
its
utility
room.
It
has
a
wet
bar
and
a
small
bathroom
with
no
shower
or
a
bathtub,
or
anything
like
that.
Some
mechanical
space
and
you'll
see
the
stairs
that
go
up
to
Street
grade
next
slide.
Please!
This
is
that's
a
rendition.
What
the
back
of
the
house
would
look
like
from
Street
grade.
F
At
one
point,
we
did
have
a
full
Second
Story
addition
that
went
all
the
way
over
after
consultation
with
the
owner
who's
here
tonight.
Who
will
speak?
The
neighbor
in
the
rear
we
reduced,
we
took
off
half
the
Second
Story
Edition
you'll,
see
that's
where
the
dotted
line
was,
and
we
Lo.
We
just
took
it
away.
F
So
it's
a
one-story
Garage
on
that
side
of
the
building
we
also,
after
speaking
with
the
neighbor,
we
shifted
the
whole
addition
and
the
rear.
We.
We
shifted
that
another
three
feet
toward
the
right
of
the
building.
F
F
F
This
is
the
stormwater
planned
one
of
four
pages
next
slide.
F
This
shows
the
existing
conditions.
This
is
the
storm
water
plan.
You'll,
see
that
there's
all
the
roof
drains
are
going
to
be
captured
and
be
directed
to
a
Caltech
system
that
will
recharge
the
ground
that
it
will.
It
will
manage
all
the
storm
water
runoff
from
the
building
right
now,
there's
no
management
of
any
runoff
on
the
site,
so
the
building
occupies
about
30
percent
a
little
less
than
30
percent
of
the
site,
which
will
now
be
managed
in
including
the
grass
and
the
Shrubbery
will
all
help
to
manage
any
runoff
downhill
six
slide.
F
F
That
sums
up
my
presentation,
just
in
summary,
this
is
a
pre-existing
non-conforming
structure
and
use
it's
Unique
to
this
site.
The
hardship
is
the
structure.
Can't
really
do
anything
with
it.
It
shouldn't
really
be
there
in
a
residential
neighborhood.
The
shape
of
the
lot
is
also
unique
to
this
area,
which
causes
us
to
maintain
the
footprint
where
it
is,
there's
really
no
other
way.
We
could
build
on
it.
F
The
Proposal
does
not
create
any
new
non-conformities.
It
fits
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
We
believe
it's
not
substantially
more
detrimental
to
the
neighborhood
and
it
improves
the
storm
water
management
on
site.
Community
needs
are
served
by
this
proposal.
It
provides
a
much
needed
housing,
stock
traffic
and
pedestrian
flow
will
not
be
negatively
impacted.
The
project
provides
off
should
be
parking,
there's
a
pedestrian
sidewalk,
that's
existing,
which
will
be
improved.
There's
adequate
water
soar
and
gas
utility
in
the
street.
Electricity
is
already
serviced
to
this
building
and
in
use.
F
Single-Family
home
fits
a
character
of
the
neighborhood,
as
opposed
to
the
existing
garage,
and
the
single
family
home
will
increase
the
tax
revenue
for
the
city
as
opposed
to
the
existing
garage
and
the
storm
water
management
system
and
Landscaping
will
help
reduce
any
storm
water
runoff
for
the
Neighbors
below.
That's
my
presentation,
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
F
B
H
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
rear
neighbor
that
Mr
duka
had
mentioned,
Mr
Costas
busios
he
so
he
does
agree
with
the
plan
in
principle,
however,
and
as
Mr
duka
stated,
he
has
already
brought
up
with
several
concerns
that
have
been
addressed
and
revised
plans
somewhat.
However,
originally
he
was
going
to
agree
to
the
revised
plans
and
then
he
had
spoken
with
an
architect
who
had
came
to
his
house.
H
I
think
it
was
the
morning
of
the
zoning
board
meeting
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
the
architect
pointed
out
the
issue
with
the
existing
non-conformity
in
the
setback
in
the
rear.
That's
already
I
think
seven,
almost
eight
feet
too
close
to
Mr
Mr
busio's
yard,
the
adding
the
height
of
the
garage
roof
onto
that
existing
non-conformity.
H
H
It's
almost
like
this
looming
structure
that
would
now
have
a
roof
on
it
and
be
overlooking
his
yard
blocking
a
good
portion
of
his
Sky,
and
so
while
he
does
appreciate
the
concessions
that
have
already
been
made
in
revising
the
plans,
he
does
still
have.
This
concern
with
respect
to
his
in
the
value
and
enjoyment
of
his
property.
H
The
plans
have
the
name
of
the
previous
owner,
but
it
is
the
the
lot
that's
labeled
Lucas
and
Sonia
Rodriguez.
G
F
F
I
would
add
if
I
may,
the
roof,
the
garage
so
that
portion
of
the
building
is
there.
We
had
a
10
pitch
roof
on
it
at
one
time.
What
one
of
the
things
we
did
was
lower
it
about
three
feet
so
right
now,
it's
six
foot,
eight
inches
high
the
roof
on
top
of
the
garage.
That's
existing.
J
C
E
Besides
the
I
know,
we
don't
have
anything
to
do
with
the
Aesthetics
of
this
building,
which
I
think
is
challenging.
I
think
why
put
a
second
story
on
at
all?
Why
not
just
build
down
and
why
not
build
something
a
little
bit
more,
because
the
building
is
very
modern
and
it's
and
I'm
very
biased,
I
love,
modern
architecture.
So
I
know
we
don't
have
anything
to
do
about
Aesthetics
and
this,
but
I
don't
understand
the.
E
F
So
I
appreciate
that
if
you,
if
you
go
to
page
A1,
it's
probably
the
fourth
page,
is
to
the
priest,
I'm,
sorry
the
first
floor
layout.
F
F
There's
really
not
a
lot
of
room
once
you
have
the
two-car
garage
on
the
first
floor.
It
doesn't
leave
a
lot
for
bedrooms
and
kitchen
and
dining.
If
you
remember
the
second
floor,
had
we
squeezed
the
dining
room,
the
kitchen
and
the
living
room
on
in
one
location,
because
we
took
off
half
the
second
floor.
So
really
it
wouldn't
work
without
a
second
story
and
we
did
take
half
to
say.
F
You
got
rid
of
the
game
room
well,
so
going
down
below
the
street
level
it
it's
it's
a
second
means
of
egress,
no
matter
what
half
some
of
that
is
most
some
of
that
is
taken
up
by
the
egress
stare,
which
used
to
be
on
the
back
deck.
So
we
took
the
back
deck
off
the
era
stairs
now
inside.
So
really
the
first
level
below
street
level
is
just
is
a
bedroom
I
mean
we
could
leave
the
underground
floor.
F
Open
you'd
have
an
open,
stair
coming
out,
but
it
really
in
in
the
big
scheme
of
things
it
wouldn't
matter.
It's
two
levels
below
grade:
one
is
a
bedroom.
One
is
just
the
game
room
and
the
walk-off
patio
that
they'll
use
for
entertainment.
When
they're
you
know
barbecuing
whatever,
and
it's
for
the
stairway.
So
there's
there
wasn't
really
a
lot
of
wiggle
room,
but
we
were
able
to
take
half
the
second
floor
off
at
the
request
of
Mr
busios.
F
F
The
other,
if
I
may,
the
other,
we
did
remove
all
the
rare
open
decks
exterior
stairs.
We
removed
the
section
of
the
Second
Story
we
removed
the
third
floor
of
mezzanine.
An
open
deck
have
been
eliminated,
I
think
those
are
the
original
planes
you
may
still
have
in
front
of
you.
We've
shifted
the
the
rear
Edition
over
second
floor
roof
deck
has
been
reduced
in
size,
we've
had
a
comprehensive
landscape.
This
is
all
very
respectful.
We
have
very
respectful
conversations.
F
We
were
trying
to
I,
understand,
Mr
busios's
concern,
but
there's
no
real
changes
to
the
footprint
that
is
there
now
and
like
I,
say
if
I
mean
the
other
Alternatives
use
the
whole
first
floor
and
have
parking
on
the
street,
but
the
problem
with
that
is
the
real
estate
agent,
with
the
construction
costs
today,
we're
looking
at
maybe
between
six
and
eight
hundred
thousand
to
build
we're
at
a
point
where
the
owner
may
or
may
be
upside
down
or
it's
he
wants
to
live
there.
G
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
with
the
typical
conditions,
I
think
this
is
an
incredibly
challenging
site
in
footprint
and
in
topography
and
the
buildings
of
vast
improvement
over
what
you
proposed
earlier.
You've
modified
it
to
appease
the
Butters,
and
it's
it's
no
bigger
than
it
needs
to
be
so
I'm
I'm
in
favor
of
it.
G
E
D
G
D
B
K
J
E
F
B
B
Is
this
is
a
recommendation
only
so
you
go
back
to
the
zba
they'll.
Ask
me:
how
did
the
planning
more
vote
I'll
have
to
tell
them
they're
playing
vote
playing
board,
voted
to
recommend
that
this
DBA
not
approved,
but
it's
up
to
them
to
whether
they
take
that
in
hole
in
pot
or
Not
Alone.
A
M
Great
thank
you
and
I'm
joined
by
our
project
manager,
Sean
and
our
attorney
from
Nutter
McLennan
Valley
Moore
John.
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
foreign,
so
we're
actually
here
in
front
of
the
planning
board
tonight,
for
the
third
time
in
2018,
a
different
owner
got
approved
a
project
with
for
66
apartments.
In
2021
we
signed
a
partisan
sales
agreement
with
the
owner
and
and
asked
this
board
for
some
modifications
to
the
special
permit,
major
site
plan
and
variances,
which
they
granted
today
we're
back
again
for
two
reasons.
M
M
So
most
of
you
are
probably
familiar
with
the
site:
170
Cottage
Street,
it's
between
Cottage
Street
and
Bellingham
street
right
next
to
the
Chelsea
Greenway
and
a
block
away
from
the
Eastern
Ave
Silver
Line
stop
next
slide.
Please.
M
M
Next
slide,
please:
this
is
just
a
view
from
Cottage
Street
at
at
the
corner
of
the
site,
where
it
meets
Silverline
way.
M
You
can
notice
the
slope
Bellingham
Street,
Cottage
Street
is
at
grade
and
Bellingham
Street
slopes
bridges
over
the
silver
line,
so
that
creates
some
interesting
topography
on
the
site
to
sort
of
manage
that
that
change
next
slide.
Please
and
then
this
is
looking
down
from
the
Bellingham
Street
Bridge
again
along
the
Chelsea
Greenway,
the
silver
line
onto
the
site
next
slide.
Please,
and
then
this
is
looking
up
from
the
Chelsea
Street
from
sorry,
the
Chelsea
Greenway,
the
Silver
Line.
M
There
are
four
homes
on
Willow
Street
that
have
bought
the
site
and
you
can
see
the
sort
of
steep
embankment
sort
of
heading
up
to
those
four
properties.
Next
slide.
Please.
M
Our
goals
here
are
are
simple,
as
you
expect,
with
the
tnd
project.
We
want
to
create
affordable
homes
for
families
along
the
Silver,
Line
Corridor,
building
on
our
success
at
25,
6th
Street,
providing
access
to
transportation,
jobs,
services
and
that
multimodal
path
to
Chelsea
Greenway.
We
want
to
design
a
sustainable
energy
efficient
building.
M
This
will
be
designed
to
passive
house
standards,
which,
hopefully
many
of
you
have
heard
of
it's
kind
of
the
Premier
Energy
Efficiency
energy
conservation,
third-party
verification
system
that
there
is
and
it'll
be
our
third
passive
house
project,
and
we
want
to
create
publicly
accessible,
open
space,
both
adjacent
to
the
greenway,
to
complement
that,
but
also
for
the
families
who
will
live
at
this
property.
Next
slide,
please
so
again,
there's
66,
Apartments
overall
12,
one
bedrooms,
43
two
bedrooms
and
eleven
three
bedrooms
so
really
geared
toward
families.
M
We
now
have
nearly
16
000
square
feet
of
open
space,
which
is
the
major
change
from
the
last
proposal,
including
a
public
park
that
has
sort
of
be
adjacent
to
the
greenway,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
have
a
large
community
room
so
that
we
can
have
events
with
all
our
residents
in
there
we'll
be
planting
a
lot
of
new
trees.
There'll
be
opportunities
for
public
art,
we'll
have
72
parking
spaces
for
cars
and
70
parking
spaces
for
bicycles.
M
And
again,
it's
focused
on
affordability,
so
17
of
the
66
homes
will
be
affordable
to
families
at
30
Ami,
which
is
about
42
000
for
a
family
of
four,
a
little
less
for
smaller
families
and
more
for
larger
and
then
49
Homes
at
60,
Ami,
so
again,
sort
of
twice
that
and,
as
always,
we'll
apply
to
the
state
for
the
maximum
local
preference
Allowed
by
law,
which
is
70
percent
next
slide.
Please.
M
So
we
hope
that
we'll
get
your
recommendation
tonight
to
be
able
to
go
to
the
zoning
board
next
month.
We're
submitting
our
second
application
to
the
state
to
fund
this
project
at
the
end
of
October
and
assuming
that
we're
successful
with
you
in
the
Zoning
Board
in
a
couple
of
weeks
and
then
with
dhcd
we'd
like
to
start
construction
next
spring
early
summer
and
people
can
live
there
by
the
winter.
2025.
M
next
slide.
Please
so,
like
I
said
there,
we
did
update
the
site
plan
and
the
major
change
is
that
previously
we
had
a
driveway
into
parking
sort
of
on
Cottage
Street
near
the
silver
line,
and
we
also
had
a
second
driveway
at
the
edge
of
the
property
closest
to
Willow
Street,
which
would
go
under
the
first
floor
of
the
building
into
this
lot
behind
the
building.
M
M
And
so
again
that
almost
doubled
the
open
space
from
just
over
eighteen
thousand
to
fifteen
thousand
six
hundred
square
feet
next
slide.
Please.
M
So
you
can
see
now
again
a
little
bit
of
open
space,
usable,
open
space
on
the
I'll
call
it
the
Willow
Street
side
of
the
building,
but
primarily
opening
up
usable,
open
space,
and
you
can
see
there's
sort
of
two
places
we
put
in
kind
of
a
purple
color
a
public
park.
Those
two
areas
will
be
separated
by
a
retaining
wall
because
of
the
elevation
and
topography
of
the
site.
M
So
the
idea
is
really
that
that
pink
area
is
complementing
the
greenway,
oh,
you
know
will
be
tnd
will
maintain
it
we'll
take
care
of
it,
but
it'll
feel
like
it's
a
public
park
and
no
one
will
be
barred
from
being
there
in
the
area
above
the
retaining
wall
will
be
primarily
for
the
residents
and
the
families
who
live
there.
Next
slide,
please.
M
So
this
is
a
summary
of
the
relief
that
we're
requesting
and
sort
of
how
it's
changed
over
the
three
proposals.
So
again,
another
owner
proposed
90
parking
spaces.
We
cut
that
back
when
we
added
three
bedroom
units.
There
were
no
three
bedroom
units
before
and
making
this
change,
putting
it
into
the
garage
putting
all
the
parking
underground.
We
lost
eight
parking
spaces,
so
we're
going
from
80
that
you
approved
last
year
to
72.
M
a
minimum
lot
area
is
staying
the
same
and
the
rare
yard
setback
is
changing.
This
is
consistent
with
the
goal
of
creating
a
door
on
Bellingham
street,
so
there'll
be
pedestrian
access
there
and
enliven
that
street
so
I
think
that's,
that's
actually
a
positive.
M
M
And
there
are
several
pieces
of
relief
that
were
previously
granted
that
we
no
longer
need.
Obviously
the
most
prominent
among
them
is
open
space
which
originally
needed
relief.
Also,
the
Florida
area
ratio
is
1.0,
but
there's
a
bonus.
If
you
have
usable
open
space
which
we
meet
so
now
we're
allowed
2.0.
So
we
don't
actually
need
the
the
relief
again
we're
at
1.52,
but
that's
not
allowed
and
maximum
lot
coverage
was
a
belief
that
was
originally
granted
and
is
no
longer
necessary.
M
Next
slide.
Please
and
again,
this
is
just
illustrating,
like
I,
said
that
this
is
an
underground
garage.
So
that's
where
it's
getting
close
to
the
Silver
Line,
the
chop,
really
the
Chelsea,
Greenway
and
then
the
silver
line,
but
again
I,
don't
think
that
will
be
really
experienced
by
by
anyone
because
it'll
be
Underground
next
slide,
please
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Cliff
to
walk
through
the
design.
N
Hi
again
I'm
Cliff
Bowmer
at
Davis,
Square
architect,
so
I
did
want
to
point
out
that
there
is
another
architect
with
us
here
tonight.
In
case
you
manage
to
stump
me
on
a
question
between
the
two
of
us
I
think
we
can
answer
all
the
questions
you
might
have.
I
wanted
to
start
by
emphasizing
one
point
that
Steve
made
and
I'm
bringing
it
up
because
it
actually
came
up
at
the
zoning
hearing.
N
Steve
noted
that
we
eliminated
the
driveway
on
the
west
side
of
the
building
because
and
chose
instead
to
create
this
underground
parking
structure,
and
one
really
strong
benefit
of
that.
It
was
that,
in
order
to
create
that
driveway,
we
had
to
build
some
pretty
significant,
retaining
walls
to
protect
the
Neighbors
on
Willow
Street
and
one
neighbor
who
was
at
the
zoning
hearing,
did
ask
about
that.
N
He
said
well,
what's
going
on
with
my
building
and
how
can
I
be
assured
that,
where
our
buildings
aren't
structurally
compromised
at
all
and
where
we've
landed
always
is
much
much
better,
the
retaining
wall
is
doable.
It's
engineerable,
but
at
this
point
we're
able
to
preserve
the
Integrity
of
the
neighbors
homes,
which
is
simply
sloped
landscape
area
and
create
more
green
space
that
can
be
landscaped
as
well.
So
that's
an
important
change
for
us
because
of
the
opportunities
it
provides
on
the
west
side
of
the
building.
N
We
think
for
a
much
better
interface
with
those
Willow
Street
neighbors
a
couple
other
things
I
want
to
mention.
With
this
slide.
Steve
mentioned
passive
house
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
that
is
absolutely
the
highest
level
of
energy
conservation.
Third
party
program
that
you
can
sign
up
for
it's
it's
not
easy.
N
It
requires
really
a
lot
of
Consultants
tons
of
iterative
designs
and
very
aggressive
approach
to
building
envelope
so,
but
it
Steve
pointed
this
isn't
new
for
them,
it's
not
new
for
our
firm,
but
we
think
it's
really
important
to
preserve
resources
in
you
know
future
resources
through
the
development
of
this
building.
Another
point
that
I
wanted
to
make
was
included
in
those
66
units.
The
state
code
would
require
us
to
have
three
group
what
are
known
as
group
2
units
fully
accessible
units.
N
In
fact,
we
are
providing
six
fully
accessible
units
in
this
development,
which
is
a
voluntary
upgrade
and
enhancement
to
accessibility.
Two
of
those
units
are
kind
of
the
passive
House
of
accessibility,
their
CBA
community-based
housing
funded
accessible
units,
so
these
are
units
that
are
even
more
accommodating
for
a
larger
variety
of
disabilities
that
can
be
accommodated
in
those
units
and
we
thought
that
was
pretty
important
to
provide
as
well.
N
So
the
view
that
you're
looking
at
here
this
is
looking
along
Cottage
at
the
South
elevation
of
the
building,
as
Steve
noted,
the
it's
a
very
challenging
site
and
I
think
you
saw
it
in
the
photographs
and
I'm
sure
you've
all
driven
by
it
many
times
it.
Those
kinds
of
challenges
create
great
opportunities
from
an
architect's
perspective.
N
N
What
you're
looking
at
in
in
this
image
is
it's
our
approach
to
what
we
think
is
a
a
way
to
address
the
the
street
conditions
where
we're
setting
the
building
back
enough,
that
we
have
the
ability
to
landscape
in
front
of
the
building
and
the
way
that
we're
treating
it's.
You
know
it's,
not
a
small
building
in
the
next
I.
Don't
want
to
go
to
the
next
flood
yet,
but
you'll
see
it's
actually
smaller
than
its
closest
neighbor
considerably
smaller.
But
we
still
it's
long
enough
that
you
really
want
to
think
about.
N
How
do
you
break
down
the
scale
of
that
building?
It's
a
long
elevation.
One
aspect
of
passive
house
is
that
it
tends
to
like
simple
masses
because
they're
very
easy,
not
very
easy,
but
they're
easier
to
insulate
create
unbroken
insulation
with
no
thermal
bridging
in
a
simple
volume.
So
what
we
worked
on
with
this
elevation
is
creating
an
elevation.
N
That's
broken
up
both
horizontally
and
layered
vertically,
and
we
think
what
we
call
it
the
wave
the
wave
allows
us
to
wrap
all
the
way
around
the
building
and
we
think,
accentuate
and
accommodate
the
different
elevations
at
different
heights.
As
I
notice.
The
building
is
very
dynamic
in
elevation
changes,
so
we
wanted
to
come
up
with
a
system
that
that
really
took
advantage
of
that
and
are
fully
use
that
opportunity
for
creating
interest
in
the
building.
N
What
you're,
looking
at
the
wave,
what
we
call
the
wave
is,
stands
out,
something
like
14
inches
from
the
building.
It's
an
aluminum
composite
material
that
is
mounted
on
to
a
very
simple
volume.
That's
actually
the
passive
house
volume
of
the
building,
the
blue
areas
in
the
building
are
clapboards.
So
very
much
like
many
of
the
smaller
scale
buildings
in
the
neighborhood.
N
That's
the
blue
layer
and
finally,
at
the
bottom
layer
of
the
building
is
masonry
again
tapping
on
a
traditional
material,
but
give
obviously
giving
this
building
a
much
more
contemporary
approach
as
far
as
creating
visual
interest
and
breaking
down
to
scale
the
building.
The
next
slide
is
looking
at
the
East
at
the
East,
Elevation
and
I
think
it's
kind
of
interesting
in
this.
N
Our
neighbor
across
the
street
also
used
kind
of
similar
approach,
in
a
sense,
a
very
simple
volume,
but
articulated
with
the
kind
of
added
on
balconies
and
some
different
colors,
some
variety
and
material.
So
we
both
have
adopted
kind
of
similar
approaches
and
how
to
create
interest
in
the
building.
We
think,
but
we
are
much
smaller
building.
I
just
think.
That's
important
to
note
that
yeah,
what
you
see
in
yellow
at
the
end,
to
the
right
hand,
side
of
our
building
is
a
stair
stairway
area
of
the
building.
N
What
we
wanted
to
do
was
to
be
able
to
create
easy
access
for
the
residents
of
the
building.
At
that
end
of
the
building
you
know
close
to
the
silver
line,
but
are
still
maintaining
a
primary
entry
off
of
Cottage
Street
and
yet
another
entry
at
the
second
level
on
Bellingham.
N
We
can
go
to
the
next
slide
where
we're
looking
at
the
that's
the
tallest
part
of
our
building.
Again,
that's
a
Eastern
elevation
with
the
single
garage
entry
at
that
level
to
the
right
of
that,
you
see
a
kind
of
indication
of
a
mural
ish
that
we
haven't
designed
that
exactly,
but
when
Steve
was
talking
about
the
retaining
wall,
that
makes
up
the
difference
to
create
the
usable
outdoor
space
that
that
you're
kind
of
looking
at
what
would
be
the
roof
of
the
parking
garage
towards
the
the
Bentley
and
Ham's
side
of
the
building.
N
N
This
didn't
exist
in
the
previous
iteration
and
now
we're
able
to
really
create
occupiable
space
on
the
roof
of
the
parking
garage
that
golden
area
in
the
middle
is
the
community
room.
The
the
community
room
is
over
1800
square
feet,
which
is
sized
adequately
to
accommodate
the
entire
residency
of
the
building.
N
If
we
really
want
to
have
a
big
meeting,
it
also
is
large
enough
that,
in
as
we
know,
we've
been
thinking
about
what
we've
learned
from
covid
having
generous
programmable
multi-purpose
space
is
very
important,
particularly
in
affordable
housing,
where
we
simply
can't
add
more
and
more
space
within
the
unit.
It
just
becomes
infeasible
financially,
so
it
was
really
important
to
have
really
good
multi-purpose
space
in
this
building
and
and
1800,
at
least
in
our
experiences
a
lot
of
community
space
we're
building
at
this
scale.
N
The
next
picture
is
another
view
inside
showing
people
having
all
kinds
of
fun
in
the
courtyard,
which
is
the
idea.
This
is
family
housing.
So
we
expect
to
see
a
lot
of
kids
out
there
playing
in
the
courtyard.
We
don't
have
super
specific
programming,
but
I
think
it's
pretty
obvious
that
it
could
be
it's
big
enough
that
we
can
serve
a
lot
of
needs
similar
to
the
argument
for
a
larger
community
room.
N
Having
a
lot
of
usable
outdoor
spaces
is
also
important
is
also
important
in
a
time
frame
when
we're
all
trying
to
prepare
for
what
could
be
another
pandemic.
Who
knows,
but
this
building
I
think
is
well
suited
through
the
passive
house
that
creates
a
resiliency
and
lots
of
usable
space
within
and
without
the
building.
We
think
we're
well
positioned.
Should
we
be
unfortunate
enough
to
go
through
anything
like
the
current
pandemic?
N
N
I,
don't
think
we've
nailed
down
exactly
the
funding
source
for
that
at
this
point,
but-
and
that's
really
because
it
changes
constantly
where,
where
you
can
get,
whether
they're
tax
credits
or
power
purchase
agreement
or
whatever
agreement,
it
is
it's
a
it
changes
constantly,
but
we're
committed
to
that.
It's
absolutely
solar
ready.
The
roof
will
be
solar,
ready,
I,
think,
but
again,
why
we
showed
this
was
I
think
again
to
highlight
the
variety
of
elevations
that
we
had
to
accommodate
Street
escapes
and
and
changes
in
elevation
that
that
we
think
this
building
solves.
N
Oh
I
think
another
interesting
thing
in
this
image.
Is
you
notice
a
difference
in
the
Landscaping
on
the
parking
deck
we're
limited?
You
know
we
can't
plant
redwoods
on
the
parking
deck.
There's
there's
not
enough
soil
there,
but
we
are
proposing
trees
that
can
grow
with
very
large
canopies
in
the
areas
that
are
outside
in
the
footprint.
So
in
this
rendering,
where
you
see
larger
trees,
those
are
outside
the
footprint
of
the
parking
deck,
so
we're
actually
able
to
plant
a
big
big
trees.
The
next
elevation
next
shot
is
an
elevation.
N
That's
our
three-story
side
of
the
building
on
Bellingham.
You've
probably
noticed,
there's
a
kind
of
theme
of
this.
This
orangish
yellowish
color
that
highlights
entry
points
to
the
building,
so
we've
carried
a
similar
treatment
around
you
see
in
the
background
to
the
left
you're
looking
over
at
the
community
room.
So
while
there
is
variety
on
the
elevations,
we
want
to
use
some
mechanisms,
so
that
and
I
think
it's
kind
of
obvious,
given
the
facade
treatment
that
that
it
is
a
unified
building.
Even
though,
is
very
complicated,
facade
situation
and
and
complicated
landscape
to
reconcile.
N
The
next
view
is,
is
looking
towards
the
east
on
Bellingham
I.
Think
what
I
like
about
this
image
is,
if
you
look
across
the
street,
that
is
the
scale
along
Bellingham.
There
are
three
story:
they're
three-story
buildings
along
Bellingham,
with
not
a
very
big
setback.
In
fact,
the
neighbor
across
the
street
has
really
minimal
setback.
So,
even
though
we
did
have
to
we
have
increased
our
request.
That
c
pointed
out
in
the
in
the
chart.
N
Then
I
won't
go
into
detail
in
the
plants,
but
the
next
one
shows
what
the
parking
garage
looks
like,
and
you
see
that
little
corner
Steve
was
talking
about
in
the
upper
right
hand,
corner
that
encroaches
more
being
coaches
on
The
setback
more
than
we
did
previously
I.
Think,
probably,
what's
most
notable
on
this,
you
see
the
elevators
at
two
ends
of
the
building.
N
You
already
know
about
the
stats,
the
floor
plan,
I
think,
what's
probably
that
primary
entries
right
at
the
beginning
was
sort
of
typical
support
areas
for
a
multi-family
building
of
this
scale,
but
I
I
think
what
this
image
shows
is
how
big
that
community
room
actually
is,
and
it's
big
for
a
building
of
66
units.
It's
really
a
generous
space
that
we
think
can
serve
a
lot
of
needs
now
and
things
that
we
haven't
thought
of.
N
Yet
so
I
would
emphasize
flexibility
when
you
create
a
space
that
large
I
think
the
next
image
is
just
typical
floor.
Yeah
from
there
on
up
it's
just
a
typical
plants
and
generally
stack
that
fill
out
the
unit
mix
that
we
that
we
already
described
you
do
see
where
the
accessible
units
are
there
shaded
that
kind
of
tan
color.
M
So,
like
I
said
at
the
top,
you
know
this
is
a
project
that
you've
seen
before
and
approved
before
and
really.
The
main
change
is
trading
eight
parking
spots,
which
is
a
10
reduction
for
about
an
80
increase
in
open
space
next
slide.
M
And
then
I
think
again,
you've
seen
this
before.
You
know
some
of
the
data
that
we
look
at
and
trying
to
figure
out
what
an
appropriate
amount
of
parking
is
mapc.
Did
this
perfect
fit
parking
study
I
think
it
was
four
years
ago
now
and
they
looked
at
20
sites
in
Chelsea.
M
What
that
study
showed
that
people
are
actually
using
on
existing
properties
next
slide,
please
we
looked
at
some
of
our
you
know:
30
plus
unit
buildings
in
in
Chelsea
and
again
we're
seeing
parking
ratios
in
that
0.6
to
0.9
range
overall
0.71
and
we're
proposing
1.1
here.
So
this
would
actually
be
the
most
parking
that
we've
built
on
a
per
unit
ratio
and
again
we
think
we
probably
have
more
parking
than
we
need,
even
with
that
72
parking
spaces
next
slide,
please
and
obviously
we're
a
block
away
from
the
Silver
Line
station.
M
So
we
think
that's
another.
You
know
reason
why
this
shouldn't
need
any
more
parking
than
any
of
those
other
sites
and
maybe
would
require
less
next
slide.
Please.
M
So
again,
you
know
this
is
the
relief
requested
I
won't
go
into
to
too
much
detail
on
it
here,
I
think
we've
covered
it
next
slide
and
obviously
the
the
main
reason
we're
sitting
here
is
the
the
or
the
rain
reason
we're
proposing.
This
is
the
incredible
need
for
affordable
housing
in
Chelsea.
1005
Broadway
is
hopefully
going
to
open
up.
M
At
the
very
end
of
this
year
we
took
1927
applicants
for
the
38
family
size
units
there,
683
of
which
were
from
Chelsea,
and
you
know,
according
to
december.com
Chelsea
rents
have
increased
about
14
for
a
two-bedroom
apartment
in
the
last
year,
so
it's
just
getting
worse
next
slide.
Please.
M
And
again,
we
try
to
be
responsive
to
the
city's
plans.
The
comprehensive
housing
analysis
was
done
in
2017.
we're
meeting
three
of
the
five
goals
through
this
project:
retaining
existing
residents
through
creation
of
affordable
housing,
increasing
the
supply
and
variety
of
housing,
choices
to
support
current
and
future
residents
and
the
tnd
is
a
non-profit.
So
it's
encouraging
that
collaboration
between
the
city
and
non-profits
next
slide.
Please
and
so
I'll
just
leave
you
with
this.
M
It's
the
same
project
summer
you
saw
at
the
top,
so
I
won't
go
through
it
again,
but
I
can
leave
it
up
there
and
welcomed
it
for
any
questions.
B
E
Okay,
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
One
is:
did
you
guys
consider
scooters
motorized
bikes,
which
are
becoming
more
popular?
That's
one
question
second
question
is
I,
think
you've
really
undersized
the
mail
room
and
laundry
rooms
they
see
and
trash
rooms.
You
only
have
you
got
a
4-4
building
and
you
got
the
trash
on
the
first
floor.
I
I,
don't
have
much
issues
with
the
parking.
Also,
so
I
think
loading
and
unloading
is
going
to
be
a
challenge
because
everyone's
going
to
go
to
the
main
building,
I,
don't
think
they're
going
to
go
on.
E
Bellingham
I
think
they're
going
to
go
on
Cottage,
so
there
isn't
really
a
good
loading
zone.
So
if
somebody's
taking
an
Uber
or
which,
over
you
know
again
I
those
are
so
I-
think
traffic's
going
to
be
slightly
hard
in
that
little
area
because
the
way
the
building
is
designed
and
how
people
will
come
in
and
out
of
the
building.
M
I
can
try
to
answer
most
of
those
questions.
We
did
not
really
think
about
scooters.
I
think
there
probably
would
be
some
ability
to
store
them
where
the
bikes
are,
but
I,
think
you're,
but
I
think
you're
you're
right
that
we
didn't
think
about
scooters
laundry,
there's
a
laundry
room
on
every
floor.
So
that's
why
they
seem
smaller,
because
they're
they're,
really
there
are
multiple
of
them
they're
supposed
to
have
service
floor
and
that
way,
hopefully,
residents
won't
have
to
go
up
or
down
the
elevator.
M
We
tend
to,
as
a
rule
of
thumb,
have
one
machine
for
about
every
eight
units
I
mean
that
seems
to
work
well.
The
other
thing
you
said
was
trash.
There's
a
trash
chute
that
comes
through
the
building,
so
there's
a
trash
room
on
each
floor.
There'll
be
recycling
totes
there
and
we
actually
size
them
so
that
we
could
potentially
do
compost
there
and
then
the
trash
it'll
come
down
into
a
compactor
they'll,
be
at
the
lower
level,
which
is
I.
M
Think
what
you
saw
there
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
see
the
shoe
for
the
plan.
We
can
probably
go
back
there
if,
if
you
want
John
and
try
to
point
that
out
to
the
trash
area
is
over
here,
so
this
will
be
the
trash.
M
For
the
recycling
totes
and
potentially
for
compost.
M
In
terms
of
loading,
you
know,
our
assumption
is
that
the
main
entrance
on
Cottage
Street
would
probably
be
where
someone
would
get
an
Uber,
for
example,
because
they
probably
the
address
to
the
building
would
be
170
Cottage,
so
I
think
you're
right,
there's
not
dedicated
space
there
for
a
loading
zone.
There's
currently
street
parking
there.
N
I
think
to
the
point
about
say:
move-ins,
for
example:
that's
another
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
do
have
the
elevator
at
the
East
end
of
the
building.
What
we're
imagining
is
that,
if,
if
somebody
needs
to
move
in
that's
where
that
would
happen,
they
could
pull
into
the
driveway
and
move
in
through
that
entry
and
that
elevator.
N
G
Can
you
go
over
some
of
the
sound
proofing
measures
that
you're
designing
in
so
that
the
along
the
T,
along
the
edge
of
the
silver
line.
M
Yeah,
so
one
of
the
things
that
we've
actually
this
will
be
our
I
think
fourth,
project
that
we've
hired
an
acoustic
consultant
for
and
one
of
the
we
started
doing
that
because
we
found,
through
our
resident
services
team
that
actually
the
the
number
one
complaint
that
residents
would
have
would
be
noise
between
units
either
up
or
down
or
side
to
side.
And
when
we
hired
an
acoustic
consultant.
They
said
you
know
we're
hearing
this
a
lot
as
you
as
developers,
are
improving
the
envelope
of
the
building.
M
It's
it's
keeping
the
noise
outside
outside
of
the
sort
of
unintended
consequence
of
keeping
of
having
great
insulation
and
keeping
air
from
flowing
is
that
it's
also
due
to
noise.
So
so,
we've
hired
an
acoustic
consultant
to
both
look
at
the
noise
from
the
server
from
the
silver
line,
but
also
between
units,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
again,
if
you're,
not
hearing
the
noise
from
outside
you're
hearing
the
noise
inside
the
building
more
and
so
so,
we've
hired
an
acoustic
consultant
that
we've
worked
with
before
to
deal
with.
M
Both
the
exterior
noise
from
the
train
and
and
they've
also
done
measurements.
So
we
know
kind
of
exactly
what
the
noise
is
and
again
we're
focused
I
think
we
actually
are
more
concerned
about
the
interior
noise
and
the
exterior
noise.
M
Yeah
I
think
that's
a
good
question.
I
think
we
see
differences
in
kind
of
how
we
build
the
the
properties
due
to
the
financing
it,
which
is
primarily
through
low
income,
housing,
tax
credits.
It's
unlikely
to
be
converted
to
condos,
but
I
think
our
focus
is
on
having
really
durable
materials
that
are
going
to
last
and
be
relatively
easy
to
maintain
so
I
think
some
of
the
finishes
may
not
neces,
we'll.
Probably
we
will
focus
on
durable
finishes
as
opposed
to
sort
of
high-end
for
the
sake
of
of
getting
the
highest
sale.
M
Price
possible
finishes,
so
I
think
there'll
be
I,
think
they'll
be
as
good,
if
not
better
than
any
of
the
condos
that
are
built,
but
they'll
be
different
to
be
completely
honest.
E
M
Yeah
I
think
the
first
thing
I
should
say
is
it's
not
necessarily
clear
in
the
plans,
but
there
aren't
walls
between
the
rows
of
parking
so
to
be
an
open
space.
It'll
be
well
lit,
we'll
have
security
cameras,
I,
don't
know
that
we've
placed
all
the
cameras
yet,
but
that's
another
thing
that
we've
hired
consultants
for
on
our
last
few
projects
to
sort
of
help
us
think
through
exactly
where
the
cameras
need
to
be
so.
We
have
coverage
throughout
the
whole
place
and
it
will
certainly
be
well
lit.
B
L
Yes,
because
I
think
the
previous
issue
with
that
area
was
that
there
was
dumping
that
was
going
on
from
the
neighbors
that
were
on
Willow
I,
believe
so
I
guess
that
is
one
concern
that
I
have
also
pardon
I
mean
I
live
at
138,
Carter
Street
and
parking
at
7
pm
is
pretty
much
impossible.
M
I
think
you
know
we're
cautiously
optimistic
that
if
certainly
when
we
purchased
the
property,
we
notice
there's
a
lot
of
trash
on
the
property.
We've
been
trying
to
keep
up
with
it
over
the
last
year
that
we've
owned
it
I,
don't
know
exactly
where
it's
coming
from,
but
I'm
cautiously
optimistic
that,
with
our
investment
in
the
site,
people
will
be
less
likely
to
sort
of
see
it
as
a
space
to
dump
trash
in
terms
of
parking.
I
mean
there's
not
a
building
there.
Now
so
we're
not
taking
away
parking.
That's
existing
there
I.
M
We
really
think
that
we're
building
more
parking
than
we
think
our
residents
will
need
I
wish
I
could
share
data
from
the
property.
That's
going
to
open
this,
this
fall
this
winter,
because
that
would
help,
but
our
most
recent
property
that
we
opened
was
at
242
Spencer,
where
there
are
34
homes,
and
we
have
18
cars
there
right
now,
so
we
actually
think
that
we're
over
building
the
parking
here
and
that
it
won't
make
the
situation
worse.
C
Oh
go
ahead.
Hurricane
studies
don't
take
into
account
that
a
name
you
know
some
a
resident
who
does
not
have
a
car
has
visitors
with
cars
who
come
in.
You
know
that's
just
economy,
because
I
constantly
hear
from
developers
about
parking
studies
and
how
their
the
parking
spaces
are
underutilized
by
residents
and
I.
Just
you
know
remember
that
there
are
visitors
who
come.
There
are
delivery.
People
who
come.
M
Yep
understood,
yeah
delivery.
You
know
we
won't
that's
harder
to
control.
Obviously,
as
you
know,
because
we're
asking
for
Relief
on
parking
residents
of
the
building
wouldn't
be
eligible
for
a
parking
sticker,
but.
C
Is
the
exterior
design
the
materials
that
is
decided
upon?
I
mean
the
visual
aspect
of
the
building?
Is
I
mean
the
the
shape
of
it
is
really
good,
but
I
just
think
with
materials
in
the
pictures
that
we've
seen
it
looks
very
institutional.
M
Well,
I
appreciate
that
comment
to
be
honest,
I
think
that
the
materials
are
probably
mostly
at
this
point,
blocked
in
I
think
the
colors
are
absolutely
not
one
thing
I
didn't
mention
in
my
my
a
presentation
as
we
currently
right
now
have
we
or
actually
we
put
out
I
guess
a
month
or
two
ago,
a
call
for
an
artist
facilitator
will
be
interviewing
a
few
of
them
in
a
couple
weeks
and
one
of
the
things
that
we're
hoping
that
they'll
do
is
help
engage
community
members
in
general
and
some
of
the
residents
are
existing
properties
without
thinking
about
public
art,
about
speaking
about
landscaping
and
about
thinking
how
it
ties
into
some
of
the
color
choices
we
make
on
the
inside
and
the
outside
of
the
building.
M
So
I
would
say
that
the
materials
you
know
I'm
open
to
a
conversation
about
it,
but
I
think
the
materials
we
feel
pretty
good
about.
But
I
think
the
colors
are
probably
going.
C
M
G
D
G
M
M
Completely
agree
with
you:
I
wish
I
had
the
ability
to
make
a
promise
about
it,
we'll
we'll
certainly
ask
a
resource
about
it,
but
we've
been
struggling
with
that
on
two
of
our
other
projects
in
Chelsea.
M
M
I'm
just
curious:
yes,
that's
a
good
question.
I,
don't
know
if
Sean,
if
you
might
be
able
to
help
me
out
with
that
a
little
bit.
It
depends
a
little
bit
on
utilities,
but
I
think
the
rents
that
we
were
projecting
are
probably
including
utilities.
M
M
L
M
A
Q
Thank
you,
Mr,
chairman
I'll,
be
extremely
brief,
so
this
my
Administration
is
in
full
support
of
this
project.
Housing
particularly
affordable
housing
is
the
biggest
challenge
in
my
opinion
that
we
face
in
this
community.
It's
not
just
a
Chelsea
prom.
This
is
a
regional
problem.
This
project
makes
a
dent
in
that.
Certainly
60
plus
units
isn't
going
to
solve
it
by
any
means,
but
the
city
needs
more
affordable
housing.
Q
We
do
prioritize
and
the
council
has
been
clear
and
our
effort
to
prioritize
home
ownership,
affordable
home
ownership
opportunities,
and
we
try
to
pursue
those
wherever
possible,
but
that
doesn't
mean
there's
not
a
need
for
affordable
rental
units
as
well.
Not
everyone
is
a
position
to
be
a
homeowner.
We
need
affordable
rental
units
as
well
in
this
community,
and
so
because
this
offers
that,
in
a
way
that
beautifies
this
vacant
lot
and
is,
in
my
opinion,
an
improvement
over
the
previous
project
that
was
approved
by
this
board.
Q
R
A
R
Name
is
Alice,
is
this
on?
My
name
is
Alice
Murillo
and
I.
Full
disclosure,
I
am
the
chair
of
the
neighborhood
developers.
Board
I
am
also
a
resident
of
Cottage
Street
I
live
in
condos
across
the
street.
I've
been
there
for
six
years
when
I
first
moved
in.
That
lot
was
a
dump
and
an
eyesore
for
many
years.
R
R
It's
a
scale,
that's
definitely
needed
in
the
city
of
Chelsea
I,
like
the
concept
of
it
being
affordable
for
families
as
well,
not
only
because
of
the
greenway
being
there,
which
has
become
a
popular
walking
pedestrian
site
for
those
of
us
who
have
pets.
It's
also
a
place
where
lots
of
bicyclists
enjoy
going
all
the
way
from
East
Boston
to
downtown
Chelsea.
The
Silver
Line,
obviously,
is
incredible.
R
An
incredible
addition
to
that
part
of
Chelsea
taking
us
to
South
Station,
as
well
as
to
the
commuter
rail,
stop
at
Market
Basket,
and
let's
not
forget
that
bus
112
is
only
a
couple
of
blocks
away
to
the
South,
and
that
takes
you
all
the
way
to
Wellington
Station.
All
the
way
through
Chelsea
to
Wellington
so
provides
lots
of
access
for
our
residents
and
in
thinking
of
families.
R
You've
also
got
just
another
three
blocks:
south
of
the
community:
that's
being
proposed
Boys
and
Girls
Club
right
there
walking
distance
people,
don't
really
need
a
car
when
you've
got
so
many
available
opportunities
right
there
in
walking,
distance
and
also
Highland
Park
is
right.
There
Silver
Line
has
been
a
real
plus
I
am
a
homeowner
in
175
Cottage
Street
I
have
a
vehicle;
I
barely
use
it,
because
this
is
such
a
walkable
City.
So
I
love
the
fact
that
I
have
the
112.
R
The
silver
line,
South
station
North
station,
easily
accessible
to
me
and
I
think
another
thing
that
I
noticed
because
I
walk
my
dog
every
day,
I
notice
that
the
elementary
school
bus
comes
down
to
Cottage
Street.
So
it's
a
wonderful
pickup
site
for
elementary
school
kids
that
are
going
to
The
Clark
complex,
which
is
on
Eastern
Ave,
so
it's
very,
very
convenient
for
families
who
who
would
hopefully
be
living
in
this
new
development.
R
The
other
thing
I
also
want
to
comment.
I
know
people
worry
about
traffic
well,
I'd,
like
numbers,
so
I've
been
making
some
observations
every
day
when
I
walk.
My
dog
and
I
ended
up
observing
10
minute
blocks
of
time
over
an
hour
Monday
through
Thursday
mornings,
which
I
believe
to
be
maybe
the
most
the
busiest
time
for
cars
to
be
coming
and
going
and
I
counted
up
within
that
time
period.
R
If
I
take
each
10
minute
blog
for
a
whole
hour,
25
vehicles
coming
into
my
complex
of
165
units
or
leaving
that
was
only
25
between
750
and
8
50
in
the
morning,
I
thought
I'd
see
a
whole
lot
more
and
I
think
what's
happening.
Is
we've
got
a
lot
of
folks
who
are
taking
advantage
of
the
silver
line
and
not
really
utilizing
their
vehicles
if
it's
not
truly
necessary,
so
I
think
we've
have
the
advantage
of
having
good
public
transportation.
R
The
city
of
Chelsea,
not
every
Community,
has
that
so
I
I
feel
that
I
embrace
this
project,
not
only
as
the
chair
of
the
TNT
keyboard,
but
what
it's
bringing
to
my
neighborhood
my
portion
of
Chelsea,
and
how
it's
enhancing
what
we
have
I
hear
about
the
park.
That's
going
to
be
there,
it's
going
to
beautify
that
space
and
I
only
can
imagine
that
all
the
residents
will
come
with
this
new
project
are
really
going
to
enjoy
our
community
as
well,
so
I
embrace
it
I.
R
Welcome
it
and
I
I
hope
that
to
see
it,
I
wish
it
was
sooner
than
2025..
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
S
Can
I
lower
this?
Can
you
hear
me
yeah,
yeah
hi.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
My
name
is
Maria
relan
power
and
I
live
at
13,
Admirals,
Way
I'm.
Also
the
associate
executive
director
of
green
Roots,
an
environmental
justice
organization,
and
we
are
here
to
support
the
project.
The
need
for
affordable
housing
is
huge.
S
The
need
for
affordable
housing,
close
to
public
transit
is
even
bigger
and
the
need
for
those
folks
who
need
affordable
housing
to
have
green
space
and
open
space
where
they
live,
is
critical,
as,
as
was
mentioned
before
for
1005
Broadway
for
38
units
that
were
available,
they
received
close
to
2,
000
applications
and
so
and
600
of
those
were
from
Chelsea,
so
the
need
for
folks
to
to
apply
and
qualify
and
live
in,
affordable
housing
is
is
really
huge,
so
I
encourage
you
to
recommend
this
favorably
to
zba.
Thank
you.
Thank.
T
Hi,
my
name
is
Sandy
Maynard
I
live
on
52
Chester
Ave,
which
is
not
far
from
where
this
project
is
going
to
be
put
and
I
I
in
full
disclosure
I
have
a
tnd
board
member.
T
The
fact
that
there's
a
crucial
need
for
more
affordable
housing
and
Chelsea
can't
be
disputed
and
I
am
so
impressed
with
the
meticulous
planning
that
has
gone
into
this
project,
not
only
to
address
the
residents
needs
the
needs
of
the
residents
that
will
be
living
there,
but
the
community
concerns
in
the
neighborhoods
surrounding
it
to
put
the
parking
underground
and
have
more
green
space
is
awesome.
The
zoning
meetings
we
had
here
in
Chelsea
over
the
summer
to
get
community
input.
T
T
three
bedroom
homes
in
this
project
for
families
and
the
fact
that
17
of
those
homes
are
going
to
be
going
to
less
than
30
percent
average.
Medium
income
is
wonderful
because
that's
where
the
neediest,
where
the
most
need
is
and
and
I
just
think,
the
planning
and
foresight
for
the
the
community
room
being
large
enough
for
future
use,
and
maybe
another
possible
pandemic,
is
important.
T
I
applaud
their
planning
and
foresight
and
I
approve
this
and
hope
you
do
too.
Thank
you.
U
Good
afternoon
playing
board
members,
my
name
is
Eamon
swabney
and
I
am
a
resident
at
53.
Garish
I
am
a
sophomore
at
Chelsea
High
School
I
am
here
supporting
the
170
College
Street
project
and
hope
that
you
can
recommend
in
favor
as
well.
I
support
this
project
because
we
need
more
affordable
housing
in
Chelsea.
These
types
of
developments
allow
families
the
opportunities
to
grow
in
the
community.
My
family
and
I
are
tnd,
residents
are
and
our
home
is
our
stability,
and
we
wish
this
for
other
families.
U
There
are
kids
in
my
school
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
and
Rich
and
risk
of
displacement
who
would
love
this
opportunity?
This
is
why
I'm
here
asking
for
you
to
recommend
and
favor
this
project.
For
all
these
reasons,
I
strongly
urge
you
to
support
this
project.
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
listen
to
my
concerns
and
I.
Wish
you
a
good
day.
Thank.
U
V
This
is
not
my
first
time
supporting
this
unit,
but
I
have
a
specific
warning
in
this.
Why
you
all
the
only
a
three-bedroom,
a
two-bedroom
apartment
for
kids
them
with
disability?
V
M
There
are
six
fully
accessible
units.
The
two
that
you
referenced
are
the
two
that
Cliff
described
as
as
kind
of
being
like
enhanced
accessibility
and
the
state
says
that
they
have
more
people
who
need
those
who
are
single
individuals.
That's
part
of
the
reason
why
we
wanted
to
exceed
the
minimum
so
that
we
could
have
accessible
units
for
families.
I
completely
agree
with
you.
V
I
didn't
know
that
one.
Thank
you
you
all
know.
Y'all
are
my
support.
Okay,
I,
my
my
resident
in
Chelsea
need
a
lot
because
there
is
family
and
type
of
families
for
this
situation.
The
person
in
in
this
in
this
world,
but
I
support
anything
you
all
do
wants.
My
residents
have
a
place
to
call
home
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
W
W
We
are
mean
there
are
many
people
in
Chelsea,
including
me
where
immigrant
we
have
a
lot
of
problems.
That
is
the
burden
being
a
migrant.
We
have
a
lot
of
frustration.
We
have
a
lot
of
problems
even
from
our
country,
so
the
housing
is
a
problem
for
us.
We
don't
have
my
our
own
private
house,
the
room
we
have
the
we
have
a
private
road.
Sorry
I
don't
mean
that
we
have
living
in
in
part
with
roommate.
There
are
a
lot
of
problems
with
that.
W
We
are
different
from
a
different
culture
where
from
different
place,
so
we
need
more,
affordable
housing.
We
are
working,
we
are
support.
We
are
forced
to
work
two
jobs.
On
top
of
that,
we
are
not
that
much.
We
are
not
getting
that
much
salary
and
we
were.
We
are
living
in
such
conditions
that
we
are
not
it's
not
convenient
for
us,
so
we
are
where
we
need
affordable
housing
in
order
to
live.
Conveniently.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
P
Hello
I
admit:
I,
don't
live
in
Chelsea
I
live
up,
Route
1
in
Malden,
but
I
do
work
here
as
a
counselor
and
I
have
a
lot
of
investment
in
this
community
because
most
of
my
clients
live
in
this
general
area.
I
cannot
State
the
importance
enough
of
having
high
density,
affordable
rental
properties.
Nearby
I
have
a
large
number
of
clients
who
really
are
either
inadequately
housed
or
have
no
housing
at
all,
and
they
would
very
much
like
to
live
in
Chelsea.
P
The
problem
is
I
understand
that
there's
a
focus
in
home
ownership,
which
I
really
appreciate
a
lot
of
my
clients
simply
do
not
have
the
income
or
the
means
to
pay
for
that
which
is,
as
a
city
manager
said
why
it's
so
important
to
have
affordable
rental
properties
as
well.
A
project
like
this
would
be
excellent
for
so
many
people
I
work
with
it
would
give
them
the
chance
to
have
a
place
that
is
safe
and
comfortable
and
affordable
for
them
without
being
too
expensive.
P
Yeah
yeah
it's
worth
noting
that
I
myself
actually
preferred
to
live
in
Chelsea
back
when
I
first
moved
to
Malden,
but
I
myself
could
not
find
an
affordable
apartment
here
that
was
within
my
budget.
If
a
project
like
this
had
existed
back,
then
I
might
live
in
Chelsea
now.
So
just
something
to
think
about.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I'm.
X
X
I
live
at
a
Grove,
Street
I
live
at
a
property
that
the
neighborhood
developers
developed
and
I
think
it
was
vacant
10
years
so
I'm
from
Delaware,
where
I
come
from.
If
there's
an
eyesore
somebody
needs
to
fix
it
and
as
far
as
I
know,
the
neighborhood
developers
are
the
only
company
in
Chelsea
that
are
working
on
affordable
housing.
Unless
there's
someone
else
I,
don't
know.
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Z
Would
like
to
have
an
opportunity
to
live
in
one
of
these
affordable
units.
Currently
I
live
in
a
two-bedroom
with
three
children
and
two
pets.
My
children
don't
have
their
separate
spaces
to
do
homework
or
they
don't
have
a
living
room
where
they
can
go
so
I
would
like
to
have
an
apartment
apartment,
that's
dignified
for
them
that
they'll
be
able
to
have
their
own
bedroom
right
now.
I
I
pay
1700
for
the
place
that
I
live
in.
Y
AA
Good
evening
my
name
is
Caroline.
Ellenberg
I
live
at
107
shirtless
Street
here
in
Chelsea,
I
am
the
mother
of
two
children,
as
you
heard
earlier,
up
with
the
squawking
who
they
weren't
able
to
stay
and
speak,
but
we
I
also
work
with
Community
Land
Trust,
which
is
a
new
non-profit
here
in
Chelsea,
supported
by
Green
Roots
immigrant
families
trying
to
create
opportunities
for
affordable
home
ownership
and
connection
to
the
land.
AA
It's
so
important
that
we
have
homes
for
people
who
are
renters
I'm
a
renter.
Many
of
the
many
many
like
Katie
who's,
been
here
for
24
years.
Many
of
the
leaders
in
Chelsea
are
renters,
and
if
people
can
have
a
home
that
is
stable
and
where
they
can
live
indefinitely,
then
they
have
energy
to
give
back
to
our
community
and
to
lead
and
make
change
and
fight
for
improvements.
AA
So
I,
just
want
to
emphasize
homeowner
renting
does
not
mean
transitory.
Renting
does
not
mean
non-invested
renting
in
a
situation
like
this
is
a
way
to
be
rooted
in
your
community.
I
also
want
to
express
my
support
for
the
additional
open
space
as
a
resident
of
that
very
dense
area
of
Chelsea
and
myself,
and
a
parent
open
space
both
for
the
people
who
live
there
and
for
people
in
the
surrounding
area
is
a
really
huge
asset
of
this
project.
Many
of
us
in
that
neighborhood
do
not
own
cars.
AA
E
E
I
I
would
allow
merge
them,
but
I
would
like
to
the
only
stipulation
that
is
I
want
to
see
a
better
drop-off,
Zone
I
think
a
drop-off
Zone
needs
to
be
addressed.
I
think
that's
going
to
be
a
big
issue:
I,
don't
I!
Think
parking
is
fine.
Your
other
concerns,
but
I
think
you
need
to
sort
of
reconfigure
how
to
do
the
drop-off
Zone
somebody
yeah.
E
Yeah
otherwise
it's
a
you
know,
I
wish
it
was
a
little
smaller,
but
I
understand
the
size
and
the
scope
of
it,
but
otherwise
I'm
a
yes
with
with
with
the
special
with
the
usual
prohibitors,
and
also
the
addressing
of
the
Drop
Zone
I,
know
what
else
to
call
accepted.
Drop,
Zone,
Senator.
A
B
I
would
recommend
an
additional
condition
of
the
applicable
standing
conditions
and
to
address
Allen's
concern
about
the
proximity
to
parking
that
the
driveway
should
have
a
stop
sign
and
a
stop
line.
D
A
K
A
Y
B
A
All
right,
the
next
order
of
businesses
case
2022-22
at
295,
Eastern
Avenue.
The
petitioner
is
295
Eastern
Chelsea
LLC.
Ladies.
AB
AB
Next
to
me,
I
have
Katie
Cruz
she's
our
engineer
from
Hancock
Associates
Haley
palazzola,
who
is
the
vice
president
of
development
at
GFI,
Partners,
Jared,
eigerman
of
Reuben
junis
and
Rose
gfi's
land
use,
attorney,
Jim,
Thornhill
who's,
our
architect
from
applied
form
and
space
Dan
Adams
who's,
our
Urban
designer
from
The,
Landing,
Studio
and
last
but
not
least,
we
have
Ken
cram.
Who
is
our
traffic
engineer
from
Bay
State
Engineering?
AB
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
John!
So
before
we
dive
into
the
site
plan
itself,
I
wanted
to
give
you
all
an
overview
of
GFI
Partners
who
we
are
and
what
we
do
and
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
If
you
don't
mind,
thank
you.
So
GFI
Partners
is
a
full-service
real
estate
development
firm
based
in
Boston.
AB
AB
K
AB
Can
just
continue
on
so
that's
exactly
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
at
295,
Eastern
Avenue
we've
been
working
closely
with
the
city
of
Chelsea's
planning
department,
the
city
manager's
office,
Community
leaders
and
organizations
such
as
green
Roots
for
several
years
to
find
the
best
use
for
this
site,
and
with
that
said,
once
John
gets
back
I'll
have
him
switch
the
slide
as
well?
AB
You
can
switch.
This
I
think
you
can
go
one
more.
If
you
don't
mind.
Okay,
that's
perfect,
so
295
Eastern
Ave
is
a
19
acre
parcel
it's
access
from
Eastern
Avenue
and
it
fronts
the
Chelsea
River.
AB
You
can
go
to
the
actually.
You
can
stay
on
this
one.
The
site
is
within
Chelsea's
Port
zoning
district
and
the
industrial
uses
that
we
propose
require
a
special
permit
in
the
port
zoning
District,
we're
also
in
the
airport
related
overlay
district
and
the
wireless
communication
facilities
overlay
District,
but
neither
of
those
are
relevant.
AB
This
site
is
also
under
State
jurisdiction.
We,
our
project,
will
require
a
chapter
91
waterways
license.
We
have
gone
through
the
full
meepa
review.
We
received
our
certificate
this
summer.
Our
project
will
also
require
a
mass
dep
water
quality
permit
and
finally,
we
will
need
a
U.S
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
General.
Permit
next
slide.
Please.
AC
Good
evening,
like,
like
Jackie,
said
it's
a
19
Acre
Site
of
those
19
Acres,
approximately
nine
acres
are
Upland
area
and
the
remaining
10
acres
are
within
the
tidal
Zone
and
water
sheet
of
Chelsea
Creek.
There
are
other
site,
it's
founded
by
sorry,
the
Chelsea
River
industrial
properties
to
the
North
and
South,
the
railroad
to
the
north
and
Eastern
Avenue
to
the
West.
There
are
three
buildings
currently
on
site
that
are
surrounded
by
paved
area.
AC
Access
to
those
buildings
is
via
an
easement
on
the
abutters
property
to
the
north,
305
Eastern
Avenue,
and
if
you
attended
the
sitewalk
this
summer,
that's
also
how
we
access
the
property
that
day
there's
a
reciprocal
easement
on
the
property
kind
of
to
the
northeast
of
the
paved
area
that
provides
access
and
parking
rights
to
the
butter
at
305,
Eastern
Avenue.
AC
The
remainder
of
the
project
site
is
a
former
tank
farm
that
has
become
vegetated
since
the
tank
farm
was
decommissioned
and
demolished,
and
that
area
is
bounded
by
just
over
a
quarter
mile
of
Shoreline
within
that
Shoreline
there
is
a
jetty.
That's
a
leftover
from
when
the
tank
farm
was
there
that
provides
great
access
and
visibility
to
the
Chelsea
River
because
of
the
former
tank
farm.
There
is
an
aul
on
the
project
site
which
limits
what
can
be
what
can
be
done
in
the
proposed
condition
and.
AC
Like
Jackie
said
in
the
proposed
condition,
there
will
be
a
hundred
and
fourteen
thousand
square
foot
light
industrial,
slash,
Warehouse,
building
on
site.
The
building
will
be
accessed
via
a
new
driveway
on
East
Front
on
Eastern
Avenue,
that
trucks
and
employees,
as
well
as
the
public,
will
come
in
VIA
that
driveway
and
access
loading
docks
that
are
on
the
southern,
the
long
side
of
the
building
that
faces
the
water
and
the
Eastern
side
of
the
building,
which
is
the
shorter
side
that
also
faces
the
water.
AC
There
will
be
employee
parking
on
the
western
side
of
the
building
between
the
building
and
Eastern
Avenue,
and
also
on
the
northeast
side
of
the
building,
including
it
included
in
those
parking.
Lots
are
10
spaces
for
public
use.
Five
of
them
are
the
closest
to
Eastern,
Avenue
and
five
are,
on
the
opposite
side
closest
to
the
water
and
I'll.
Note
that
back
in
that
corner
near
the
railroad
tracks
in
the
parking
area,
there's
a
salt
marsh.
That's
that's
within
the
tidal
Zone.
AC
In
addition
to
the
proposed
parking
and
Industrial
use
like
Jackie
mentioned,
there
are
three
acres
of
Public
Access
use
along
the
shoreline
which
the
urban
designer
for
the
project
will
describe
in
more
detail.
There
will
be
a
dumpster
on
the
southern
side
of
the
building.
It's
no
storage
for
the
building
will
be
within
the
landscaped
areas,
excluding
the
areas
that
will
be
used
for
storm
water
management
and
within
some
of
the
paved
area
on
the
Southeast
corner
of
the
building
any
snow.
AC
AC
Between
between
the
paved
area
and
the
driveway
and
the
public
access
area
that
wraps
around
the
shoreline,
there
will
be
a
taper
guard
rail
in
a
row
of
trees,
which
will
separate
those
two
uses.
AC
AC
The
storm
water
drainage
system
for
the
site
includes
both
low
impact
design
measures
in
a
pipe
system
of
pipes.
The
the
larger
paved
area
between
the
building
and
the
shoreline
will
drain
over
land
to
kind
of
a
winding
series
of
rain
Gardens,
which
you
can
see
in
Blue
on
the
plant
in
front
of
you
and
then
the
roof
area
and
the
remaining
behaved
areas
will
drain
to
isolator
rows,
which
are
subsurface
systems
of
Chambers,
wrapped
in
Filter
Fabric
and
the
the
storm
water
system
is
designed
to
meet
the
Massachusetts
stormwater
standards.
AC
It
will
Outlet
to
two
proposed
outfalls
along
the
shoreline.
I
want
to
touch
briefly
on
some
some
concerns
that
were
raised
related
to
drainage
on
the
butters
property
to
the
north.
At
305
Eastern
Avenue
in
the
existing
condition,
there
is
a
series
of
catch
basins
both
on
the
project
site
and
the
butters
projects
that
I
that
collect
storm
water
from
paved
areas
and
then
there's
also
a
portion
of
the
295
Eastern
Avenue
site.
That
includes
the
Eastman
area,
with
rights
to
305.
AC
AC
AC
The
spring
high
tide
is
when
the
highest
tide
it
coincides
with
the
the
moon
and
I,
won't
get
into
a
whole
lot
of
detail
about
that,
but
the
book
site,
grading
kind
of
related
to
the
drainage
system
and
getting
that
to
function
as
well
as
meeting
the
existing
grades
around
the
perimeter
of
the
site.
AC
So
starting
at
the
spring
high
tide
elevation.
We
set
the
rain
Gardens
and
the
bottom
of
the
drainage
system
at
that
elevation
and
then
grade
it
up
to
the
proposed
building
at
a
slope
so
that
that
paved
area
would
drain.
So
that
put
the
finish
the
the
ground
surface
around
the
building
at
elevation
12
and
with
four
foot
loading
docks
that
puts
the
first
floor
of
the
building
at
elevation
16,
which
is
six
feet
above
the
FEMA
flood
elevation
of
10.
AC
AB
Before
we
move
forward,
I
just
want
to
stay
on
this
for
a
second
to
bring
up
some
characteristics
of
the
building
that
I
thought
I
should
make
you
all
aware
of.
This
building
is
designed
to
be
leased
to
three
separate
wholesale
storage
or
light
manufacturing
tenants,
and
the
goal
here
is
to
attract
small
to
mid-sized
users
from
Greater
Boston,
who
have
been
displaced
just
by
the
mere
price
of
the
bar.
The
Boston
Market
I
want
to
emphasize,
especially
that
this
is
not
designed
to
be
a
freight
forwarding
facility
or
a
logistics
Center.
AB
This
is
also
a
speculative
development,
so
we
do
not
know
who
our
tenants
will
be
yet
and
I
also
just
wanted
to
make
a
few
notes
about
how
this
project
meets.
All
of
your
criteria
to
Grant
a
special
permit.
AB
The
warehouse
and
light
industrial
uses
are
that
we
intend
to
use
in
this.
Particular
project
are
in
precisely
the
location
that
Chelsea
has
designated
under
the
zoning
code.
We
see
that
there
are
no
significant
environmental
impacts
and
instead
we
offer
a
high
quality,
Public,
Access
and
open
space
area,
and
just
a
few
fiscal
benefits
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
that
are
in
within
our
fiscal
benefits
analysis.
AB
We
this
project
will
result
in
over
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
that
annual
tax
revenue.
We
will
be
spending
1.1
million
dollars
on
the
linkage
fee
and
we
have
agreed
to
contribute
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
towards
an
eventual
lateral
access
way
which
which
we've
had
discussions
with
the
city's
planning
department
about,
and
we're
happy
to
talk
through
that
a
little
further
once
we
get
through
our
Public
Access
design.
So
with
all
of
that,
I'd
like
to
hand
it
over
and
you
can
go
to
the
next
Slide
John.
AD
AD
Part
of
that
is,
of
course,
driven
by
the
proximity
to
the
Burke
Elementary
complex,
and
these
are
educational
opportunities
here
next
slide,
please,
these
are
some
renderings
of
the
sort
of
I
would
say:
curation
of
the
secessional
and
Pioneer
Landscape,
we're
proposing
a
10
foot,
long
path
along
the
water's
edge
of
permeable
asphalt,
with
a
series
of
stone
dust
Loops
that
are
sort
of
appealing
to
the
side,
all
of
which
would
be
ADA,
Compliant
path,
Network
and
then
it's
again
sort
of
building
off
of
the
palette
of
native
secessional
plants
that
are
there
really
sort
of
cultivating
that
Pioneer
Landscape.
AD
That's
developing
what
you
of
course
see
in
the
rendering
is
what
I'd
sort
of
refer
to
as
the
beauty
of
Chelsea
Creek
in
this
case,
which
is
immediately
due
east
of
what
is
known
as
the
Turning
Basin,
which
is
one
of
the
widest
portions
of
Chelsea
Creek,
before
it
transitions
into
Mill
Creek.
AD
Well,
you
can
start
to
get
a
sense
of
in
the
image.
Are
the
expansive
mud
flats
that
are
in
the
area
which
are
rich
in
both
both
oysters
and
soft
shell
clams,
again,
a
great
sort
of,
and
are
also
known
flounder,
egg-laying,
habitat
so
again,
a
very
nice
sort
of
educational
ecosystem
next
slide.
Please
well,
here,
are
some
of
those
mud
flat
environments
next
slide,
please.
AD
This
is
some
of
the
character
of
the
Upland
Pioneer
sort
of
dense
Grove
of
trees,
which
we
found
have
a
really
sort
of
particular
Beauty
to
how
they're
taking
root
on
the
site.
These
are,
of
course,
Richwood
habitat,
there's
all
sorts
of
predatory
birds
that
have
already
made
this
their
home
next
slide.
Please.
AD
We've
had
a
series
of
community
walks
and
meetings
discussing
sort
of
goals
for
the
site,
which
really
led
to
I'd,
say
the
two-part
sort
of
natural
conservation,
ish
sort
of
Interest,
along
with
passive
Recreation,
as
well
as
the
kind
of
educational
interests
of
the
area
I,
you
know,
you're
all
very
familiar
with
Chelsea
and
the
lack
of
access
to
the
Waterfront.
This,
as
Katie
mentioned,
is
about
one-third
of
a
mile
of
new
Coastal
access.
AD
Acreage
of
that
is
about
three
acres
of
Upland
for
reference.
Port
Park
in
Chelsea
is
about
0.6
Acres,
so
this
is
about
five
times
the
size
and
Public
Access,
of
course,
not
accounting
for
the
huge
expanse
that
Katie
described,
of
about
10
acres
of
water
land,
much
of
which
are
tidal
mud
flats
which
aren't
accessible
only
to
DPA
regulations
on
Watershed
access,
but
are
certainly
visible
and
sort
of
participated
by
proximity.
AD
AD
I
think
as
much
of
that
feedback
really
sort
of
related
to
the
character
of
the
landscape
and
a
real
desire
to
convert
it
from
its
industrial
past
as
a
tank
farm
to
a
sort
of
a
more
organic
public
realm,
picking
up
on
the
kind
of
Pioneer
successional
Landscape,
but
also
a
material
palette
that
tries
to
soften
things
as
much
as
possible.
So
things
like
Timber
guard
rails,
Timber
fences
for
some
of
the
trees
that
do
have
to
be
removed
from
the
site,
harvesting
that
material.
AD
Another
I
think
was
the
notion
of
interpretive
signage
and
wayfinding
to
really
explain
all
the
dynamic
systems
on
the
site.
Of
course,
this
is
both
the
Turning
Basin
for
industry,
a
historic
indigenous
landscape,
a
pi
series
of
plants
and,
as
Katie
described,
a
sort
of
innovative
system
of
green
infrastructure,
Water
Management,
all
of
which
of
sort
of
educational
aspects.
AD
So
this
is
the
existing
condition
of
the
site.
You
can
sort
of
see
the
various
sort
of
pockets
of
ecosystems
that
have
been
developing
next
and
then,
actually,
you
really
get
a
good
sense
in
this
area
of
the
expansive
mud
flats
that
the
public
access
walk
would
be
giving
people
proximate
access
to.
You
also
see
the
jetty
that
Katie
described,
which
is
just
a
beautiful
overlooked,
Point
both
at
the
Basin
but
looking
down
south
towards
the
Chelsea
Street
Bridge
next
slide,
please.
AD
This
was
the
result
of
our
walk
with
the
horticulturalist
I'm
Kate
Cannon
of
offshoots
really
identifying
the
existing
sort
of
pockets
of
new
ecosystems,
and
not
surprisingly,
most
of
those
are
occurring
right
on
the
water's
edge,
which
is
fortuitous
because
that's
where
we
are
looking
to
build
the
public
path.
Network
next
slide
please.
AD
AD
AD
The
water's
edge
is
just
over
a
quarter
of
a
mile
and
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
here.
The
dashed
line,
that's
heading
to
the
Northeast
in
this
image
is
what
Jackie
mentioned
is
a
commitment
to
the
Future
when
Forbes
the
former
Forbes
site
might
be
developed
to
actually
link
with
a
boardwalk
to
what
we
all
hope
would
be.
A
public
walk
along
the
forbesite
as
well.
AD
And
so
this
is
the
ultimate
site
plan
of
the
public
access
area
would
sort
of
highlighted
in
the
bright
turquoise
color
would
be
the
water
filtration
infrastructure
for
all
of
the
hard
surfaces
on
the
site.
We
often
refer
to
this
as
green
infrastructure
or
bioretention,
which
would
all
be
planted
in
this
case
to
filter
the
water
and
cool
it
before
it's
discharged
to
Chelsea
Creek.
AD
Otherwise,
the
sort
of
sort
of
lima
bean
shapes
on
the
waterfront
are
the
lawn
areas
where
we've
kind
of
constructed
we're
proposing
to
construct
learning
circles
sort
of
outdoor
classrooms
for
students
next
slide,
please.
AD
This
is
just
zooming
one
of
the
sort
of
I
think
advancements
in
the
project
that
really
came
from
Community
discussions.
We
had
always,
of
course,
focused
on
a
waterfront
walk,
but
when
the
idea
of
the
loop
came
back,
it
really
said
how
could
we
create
a
second
passage
on
the
north
side
of
the
building,
and
that
was
particularly
exciting
to
us,
because
actually,
the
north
side
of
the
building
is
the
more
sort
of
urban
side
of
the
building.
It's
where
the
entrances
of
the
building
will
be
so,
workers
will
be
coming
and
going.
AD
Obviously,
we
think
of
not
only
sort
of
the
public
and
school
children
coming
here
directly
on
the
waterfront,
but
you'll
have
a
high
number
of
workers
having
a
nice
place
to
sort
of
go
outside
and
eat,
or
go
and
sit
on
the
waterfront
themselves.
We've
positioned
picnic
tables
and
bike
racks
in
this
area,
but
what
you're
seeing
is
the
sort
of
curvilinear
path
we,
wherever
possible,
with
the
dimensions,
look
to
always
situate
the
path
between
trees,
so
you're
sort
of
walking
in
an
alley
of
tree
cover.
AD
Obviously,
Chelsea
has
plagued
with
Urban
heat
island
and
we
have
hundreds
of
trees
specified
for
this
plant
highlighted
in
pink
are
the
public
access
parking
areas
which
are
on
both
ends
of
the
property
so
that
people
can
park
essentially
on
the
two
ends
for
wherever
they
want
to
go
along
the
path
Network
next
slide.
Please.
AD
I
think
we
went
backwards.
Thank
you.
This
is
just
the
other
end
of
that
Northern
path.
What
it
shows
is
how
there
are
moments
in
that
path,
that
the
landscape
really
widens.
Creating
a
generous
feeling
of
landscape
Katie,
had
mentioned
sort
of
highlighted
in
the
northeast
of
this
site
is
actually
a
really
beautiful,
spontaneous
salt
marsh
that's
been
developing.
You've
probably
seen
that
on
Chelsea
Creek
as
water
quality
has
been
improving.
AD
There's
spartina
is
making
sort
of
a
comeback
on
Chelsea
Creek,
and
we
call
that
the
swan
Basin,
because
there's
actually
a
family
of
swans
that
has
taken
up
residence
in
the
spartina.
It's
fortuitous.
We
have
a
large
open
space
there.
Our
picnic
tables
immediately
next
to
this
one
Basin
next
slide.
Please.
AD
This
just
speaks
to
some
of
the
sort
of
barrier
that
we're
planning
between
the
sort
of
industrial
operations
to
the
north
at
305
Eastern,
and
this
public
access
is
a
simple
Timber
fence
to
delineate
the
boundary
between
Public
Access
and
that
what
we're
trying
to
avoid
are
sort
of
heavy
metal
guard,
rails
or
chain
link
fences,
sort
of
maybe
the
standard
elements
of
industrial
Landscapes
and
really
focus
on
a
more
sort
of
Waterfront
Coastal
landscape.
Pallet
next
slide,
please.
AD
So
these
are
just
some
views
of
those
public
access
areas
before
and
after
this
is
the
current
view
on
Eastern
Avenue,
as
was
mentioned
next
slide,
please,
the
buildings
that
are
there
currently
will
be
removed.
Hundreds
of
trees,
I,
don't
have
an
exact
count,
will
be
planted,
sort
of
pulling
the
landscape
to
the
street.
We
are
hoping
to
salvage
wood
from
some
of
the
larger
trees
that
will
be
coming
down
to
create
these
sort
of
pergola
structures
to
announce
things
like
entry
or
Lookout
points
on
the
water
next
slide.
Please.
AD
These
are
actually
one
of
the
locations
that
grass
and
the
is
an
invasive
grass
called
fragmites
the
sort
of
taller
species
where
we'd
be
looking
to
remove
that
and
open
these
areas
as
Lawns
next
slide,
but
preserving
The
Groves
that
have
been
pioneering.
So
this
would
be
an
example
of
one
of
those
sort
of
learning
circle.
Lawns
on
the
waterfront.
AD
The
little
plastic
tubes
in
the
renderings
are
simply
there
that
when
we
plant
mini
saplings,
we
have
to
protect
them
from
Rabbits,
so
that
that
would
just
be
an
aesthetic
in
the
landscape
for
a
few
years,
while
the
trees
get
established
next
slide,
please
this
would
be.
You
know
the
Waterfront
walk
itself.
Obviously,
on
the
right
is
the
Chelsea
Creek
itself
next
slide,
please,
and
you
can
see
just
using
the
landscape
to
buffer
from
the
industrial
operations,
but
otherwise
trying
to
preserve
as
much
of
the
openness
to
the
Waterway
as
possible.
AD
Next
slide,
please.
This
is
that
Jetty,
which
currently
exists.
It
used
to
be
the
sort
of
unloading
Jetty
for
the
petroleum
terminal.
Now
it
will
be
used
next
slide
as
a
Overlook
to
Chelsea
Creek,
we're
proposing
a
large
gathering
table
at
the
end
of
The
Jetty,
where
people
can
have
events.
We've
had
experience
on
the
mwra
parcel
located
at
about
55
Marginal
Street
of
a
lot
of
birthday
parties
actually
happening,
so
we
could
foresee
that
type
of
use
here
next
slide,
please.
AD
This
is
actually
looking
at
the
path
on
the
north
side
of
the
building
part
of
what
we're
proposing.
There's
always
been
this
sort
of
odd
hallway
that
was
built
connecting
between
the
two
buildings.
People
always
ask
what
that
is:
it's
just
a
hallway
between
the
two
buildings
that
has
a
sort
of
column,
support
structure.
AD
In
demolishing
these
buildings,
we
found
that
those
columns
and
the
sort
of
t-bar
at
the
top
remain
in
the
landscape
era
next
slide,
and
it's
a
little
hard
to
see
here,
but
we're
proposing
to
preserve
that
as
a
new
Vine
trellis.
When
we
designed
Port
Park,
we
did
a
lot
with
climbing
vines
on
the
domes
to
sort
of
create
which
are
great
pollinator
species.
AD
So
the
idea
is
to
sort
of
use
that
as
a
trellis
that
guides
people
to
the
back,
and
so
this
would
be
the
sort
of
vision
of
that
back
path
and
what
you
see
dividing
the
sort
of
asphalt
area
which
is
sort
of
the
access
for
305
Eastern
and
the
landscape
on
the
right
is
the
the
sort
of
Timber
fence.
So
it's
a
Timber
fence
and
Landscape
that
sort
of
keeps
people
on
the
path
next
slide.
Please
and
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
the
public
access
area.
AD
AB
AE
Good
evening
my
name
is
Jim
Thornhill
I'm,
the
principal
for
Applied
form
of
space,
Architects,
we're
the
project
architect
and
I'll.
Give
you
a
brief
overview
of
the
building
itself.
Next
slide,
please.
This
is
a
one-story
building.
It's
approximately
fourteen
thousand
square
feet,
we're
proposing
three
tenant
spaces,
each
approximately
thirty,
eight
thousand
thirty,
eight
thousand
square
feet.
The
building
provides
36
feet
clear
interior
height
and
the
average
roof
height
is
about
43
feet
above
the
slab
level.
AE
This
is
a
pre-engineered
building
which,
for
GFI
Partners,
is
typically
cast
in
place.
Concrete
foundation,
a
10
foot
high
CMU
base
for
durability
around
the
perimeter
of
the
building.
The
remainder
of
the
wall
is
the
exterior
wall
is
a
three
inch
insulated
metal
panel
for
Energy
Efficiency
and
the
roof
is
typically
a
standing
seam
metal
roof.
Our
general
column
grid
is
approximately
56
feet
by
57
feet,
so
this
is
a
very
large
span.
AE
Building
there
are
just
a
few
Design
Concepts
I'd
like
to
express,
and
those
include
that
the
building
really
kind
of
becomes
a
backdrop
for
the
beautiful
work
that
Dan
and
the
landing
Studio
has
done
for
the
for
the
public
access.
There
is
a
a
you'll
see
in
the
renderings.
Actually
next
slide,
please
you'll
see
in
the
renderings,
not
necessarily
the
architectural
elevations,
that
there
is
a
mural
proposed.
AE
There
are
loading
docks
only
located
on
the
south
and
east
side
of
the
buildings.
There
are
17
loading
docks
as
Jackie
had
mentioned,
and
tenant
access
is
primarily
through
the
north
wall.
So
that
was
an
opportunity
that
we
had
in
terms
of
invigorating
kind
of
the
public
and
private
portions
of
the
building,
and
to
accomplish
that
we
provided
Windows,
where
we
believe
there
will
be
offices
to
kind
of
help
with
the
visual
connection
between
the
office
areas
on
the
inside
and
anyone
using
the
public
access
spaces
on
the
exterior.
AE
We
also
provided
a
series
of
clearer
story
windows
on
the
on
the
North
and
South
sides
of
the
buildings.
This
helps
to
further
articulate
the
facades
it
brings
in
some
natural
light
into
the
interior
of
the
building,
but
it
doesn't
expose
kind
of
any
of
the
inner
workings
of
the
building
to
the
exterior.
Since
we
don't
know
exactly
what's
going
to
be
going
on
on
the
inside
and
finally,
the
on
the
north
side
of
the
buildings,
the
roof
canopies
announced
the
entrances
for
the
buildings,
as
well
as
the
accessible
handicap
ramps
as
well
too.
AE
That's
the
brief
overview
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
I'll
be
here
for
any
questions.
O
Good
evening
my
name
is
Ken
cram
I
am
with
Bayside
engineering
I'm,
a
registered
professional
traffic
engineer
in
the
Commonwealth
of
Massachusetts,
as
Jackie
said,
they've
been
working
on
this
for
several
years
and
I've
been
with
them
the
entire
way,
and
so
we've
done
a
full
traffic
impact
and
access
study
for
the
project,
and
we
followed
the
state
guidelines
issued
by
Mass
DOT
and
the
executive
office
of
administration,
and
we
looked
at
originally
about
four
intersections.
But
when
we
met
with
the
city
earlier
this
year,
it
was
requested
to
expand
the
study
area.
O
We
followed
the
guidelines.
We
got
brand
new
traffic
counts,
we
protected
them
out
to
the
future.
I
had
a
number
of
conversations
with
Mr
depriest
on
what
other
projects
are
in
the
area
that
we
had
to
include.
In
our
background
projections,
plus,
we
had
a
background
growth
rate,
which
we
also
included
just
to
make
sure
we
didn't
miss
anything.
A
lot
of
the
projects
were
smaller,
didn't
necessarily
have
traffic
studies,
but
we
included
those
in
the
traffic
projections.
O
We
projected
our
traffic
next
slide.
Please
it's
kind
of
tiny.
You
can't
read
it
so
well,
but
we're
looking
at
about
480
my
math.
O
Yes,
my
eyesight's,
still
good
480,
total
daily
trips
cut
that
in
half
for
the
number
of
vehicles
coming
and
going
or
about
240,
for
the
entire
industrial
building
and
of
those
daily
trips,
30
are
proposed
to
be
truck
trips
or
cut
that
in
half,
so
we're
going
to
have
about
15
trucks
coming
and
going
over
the
course
of
a
24-hour
day
and
the
peak
hours
we're
looking
at
81
in
the
morning
and
44
in
the
evening.
O
So
we
take
that
those
trip
distributions
and
we
apply
them
to
our
no
bill
conditions
and
we
analyze
all
the
intersections,
and
we
come
up
generally
with
good
levels
of
service.
The
one
intersection
that
didn't
operate
so
well-
and
that
was
because
there
were
illegal
left
turns-
was
Webster
Avenue
and
Eastern
Avenue.
When
someone
wants
to
make
a
left
turn
there,
when
they
can't
it
blocks
everything
else
up.
O
So
we
then
next
slide.
Please,
we've
made
a
series
of
recommendations.
I
didn't
go
into
great
detail
on
the
slide
here,
because
I
just
didn't
have
enough
room,
but
we
made
the
recommendation
that
the
driveway
be
designed
to
accommodate
large
Vehicles.
It's
going
to
be
one
lane
in
one
lane
out
and
we
have
designed
it
such
that
Vehicles
will
be
able
to
pass
safely.
O
A
key
key
question
came
up
was
truck
routing.
We
did
a
lot
of
research,
we
traveled
the
city
streets
many
times
to
make
sure
we
knew
where
the
truck
routes
are.
We
will
not
be
using
any
of
the
exits
off
of
Route
1
Tobin
Bridge,
which
Beacon
Street
4th
Street
or
Webster
Avenue,
but
we
will
follow
the
ordained
routes
that
are
in
the
city's
ordinance
for
truck
routing,
which
basically
brings
you
down.
O
If
you're
coming
from
the
north,
you
can
get
off
the
Carter
Street
exit,
take
Eastern
Avenue
over
on
Spruce
Street
and
then
come
Williams
to
Marginal
to
Eastern
Avenue
or,
if
you're,
coming
from,
let's
say
the
south
on
Route
1
coming
over
to
Tobin.
Bridge
trucks
are
allowed
to
take
the
Revere
Beach
Parkway
exit,
but
they
are
directed
to
access
the
first
exit,
which
is
Broadway
and
they
come
down
Broadway
and
Eastern
Avenue.
As
I
indicated
earlier.
O
We
talk
about
signal,
timing,
adjustments
and
the
reason
why
we
put
that
in
there
is
because
a
couple
of
the
intersections
were
recently
evaluated
in
a
road
safety
audit,
which
is
a
methodology
that
engineers
in
the
state
and
municipalities
use
to
evaluate
intersections
that
have
high
crashes
or
large
volumes
and
it's
basically
a
safety
Improvement
methodology
that
identifies
potential
measures
to
improve
intersections
and
we
propose
to
work
with
the
city
to
try
and
Implement
some
of
those
at
our
intersections
and
then.
Lastly,
we'll
have
a
transportation
demand.
O
Management
program
this
program
will
seek
to
try
and
get
employees
to
carpool,
for
instance,
we'll
have
a
transportation
coordinator
on
the
site
that
will
work
with
employees.
Those
who
want
to
commute
will
provide
available
MBTA
T
schedules,
so
they
know
you
know
when
buses
are
coming
and
going
and
so
forth.
So
that's
a
brief
summary
of
the
traffic
study
and
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
when
appropriate.
AB
Thanks
Ken
and
that's
all:
we've
got
we're
happy
to
take
any
questions
or
feedback
that
you
might
have
any
questions.
We
can't
answer
tonight
will
certainly
write
up
a
memo
and
get
you
those
answers
as
soon
as
possible.
C
So
you're
going
to
be
the
the
owner
leasing
out
the
space
correct.
Will
there
I
mean?
Are
you
going
to
have
a
management
company
there?
Are
you?
Will
the
owner
have
a
presence
on
site?
Yes,.
AB
This
that's
a
great
question.
You
know
I
know
it
certainly
depends
on
the
tenant,
but
it's
absolutely
something
that
we
will
take
ownership
over
and
discuss
with
our
tenants
as
as
they
come
to
us.
AA
AF
Good
evening
Jay
eigerman
attorney
for
the
developer.
It
would
be
imposed
under
the
lease,
so
they
would
be
a
breach
of
lease,
and
we
do
have
experience
with
this
as
I
I.
Think
that's
why
it
was
important
to
let
you
know
that
GFI
actually
operates
several
million
square
feet
already
in
Massachusetts
and
that's
how
we
do
it.
Okay,
so
we
actually
have
actually
have
greater
power
than
we.
We
would,
if
we
didn't,
have
them
under
lease,
but
we
can
hold
them
in
breach.
Okay,.
E
Greg
a
couple
questions:
one
I
got
questions
for
everybody.
One
is
parking
for
an
access
to
the
to
for
the
public
for
the
park,
because
I
think
what
I
can
understand,
we'll
fight
less
like
count
it
incorrectly,
there's
like
10
to
11
spaces,
and
so
that
seems
to
be
a
little
low
and
also
since
the
park
is
not
going
to
be
lit
at
night.
E
Also
signage
for
is
not
addressed.
If
tenants
are
going
to
want
signage,
so
I
understand
about
the
mural,
which
will
be
I'm
sure
handsome,
but
you
know
there's
going
to
be
some
signage
in
so
and
then
I'm
a
little
I
know
you
can
put
in
the
Lisa
trucks
can't
park
there,
but
17
if
you're
going
to
have
17
dots
and
only
14
trucks,
and
that
means
there's
going
to
be
some
empty
docks.
E
So
we've
got
to
figure
out
sort
of
deliveries,
and
that
kind
of
thing
do
we
also
want
to
have
manufacturing
24,
7
I,
don't
know
if
we
want
to
have
that
kind
of
I
know
that
previous
administrations
and
this
one
as
well
has
worked
very
hard
to
make
sure
that
they've
lost
some
of
that
ability
here
and
I.
Think
that's
my
first
round:
wow,
okay.
AF
AF
First,
the
this
neighborhood,
of
course,
is
highly
industrial.
Historically,
so
I
I,
don't
we
hadn't
heard
a
comment
before
on
whether
there
would
be
a
limitation
on
hours
for
operation?
That's
something
we
can
entertain,
but
I
I
mean
I.
Would
I
would
guess
there
aren't
there
aren't
limitations
now
in
the
area
and
I,
don't
know
that
there
are
residents
who
are
impacted.
AF
So
there
are,
you
know,
Chelsea
is
very
densely
occupied,
so
this
may
be
one
of
the
few
areas
actually
where
you
could
accommodate
that
kind
of
24
7,
but
you
would
know
better
on
the
solar
Readiness.
Yes,
it
is
a
flat
roof.
AF
AB
I
can
chime
in
here
I
apologize
yeah.
We
have
been
in
contact
with
eversource
at
this
point
and
through
the
amoeba
process
we
did
commit
to
a
90
roof
coverage
with
a
roof
solar
ready.
Excuse
me.
AB
We
also
did
discuss
with
the
Department
of
Department
of
energy
and
resources,
a
minimum
of
20
roof
coverage
of
a
solar
installation.
So
we're
looking
into
that
and
we
have
communications
with
that
resource.
AF
Yeah
and
I
should
have
said
we
should
provide
to
you
if
you
don't
have
it
the
mipa
certificate
which
came
out
in
August,
because
the
Secretary
of
environment
had
quite
a
bullet
point
list
of
what
they
wanted
to
see
for
Energy
Efficiency
measures.
So
as
Jackie's
saying
we've
we're
looking
into
all
of
that,
but
as
I
was
saying,
we
wouldn't
do
that
in-house.
You
know
we
wouldn't
do
solar
rays
in-house.
We
would
go
to
a
third
party
and
take
advantage
of
things
like
the
eversource
credit
program
and
so
on.
AF
I
think
that
was
were
there.
Other
questions,
I'm.
Sorry
parking
parking.
Yes,
you
know,
I
many
of
us
on
the
team
have
done
a
lot
of
urban
Waterfront
projects.
You
know
this
is
a
balance.
I
mean,
as
you
know,
because
you're
in
the
trenches
on
these
hearings
every
month,
you
know
it's
an
industrial
project,
we're
trying
not
to
overload
the
site
we're
not
actually
building
a
park.
I
mean
it's
all
going
to
be
private
property.
AF
We
want
to
encourage
the
public.
By
the
same
token,
you
know
we
can't
we
don't
want
to
overdo
it
and
make
it
into.
You
know
say
a
a
large
parking
lot,
so
you
know
I
defer
to
the
to
the
designers
I'm,
not
a
designer
on
what
they
think
is
actually
feasible,
but
from
what
I've
done
in
Dorchester
and
and
in
in
Boston
and
elsewhere
in
the
state.
I
know
it
sounds
small
and
it
would
be
for
a
park.
AF
If
This,
Were,
A,
DCR
facility,
10
parking
spaces
is
not
going
to
cut
it,
but
what
we,
what
we
recognize
we're
not
running
away
from
is
we're
trying
to
balance.
You
know
we're
trying
to
do
an
industrial
project,
but
it's
on
private
tidelands
and
it's
it's
subject
to
chapter
91
and
we
want
to
be
accommodating
I.
Don't
know
that
10
is
the
right
number
but
I.
You
know
please
just
recognize
we're
we're
not
trying
to
maximize
necessarily.
E
I
understand
that,
but
what
I'm
thinking
is
like.
So,
let's
just
assume
it's
a
Sunday
afternoon.
How
are
you
going
to
you
know?
That's
traditionally
when
there
won't
be
a
lot
of
possibly
workers
there,
and
so
then
you're
going
to
have
this
parking
lot.
That's
going
to
be
very
tempting
for
people
to
come
on
a
Sunday
afternoon,
it's
a
beautiful,
beautiful
sight
and
so
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
but
come
Friday.
E
AF
No
I
think
that's
a
good
point.
Shared
parking
is
is
really
the
way
to
think
of
it.
It's
not
on
a
weekend.
If
there's
you
know
an
expansive
asphalt
which
is
not
being
occupied
by
worker
parking
and
we
have
on-site
management.
Maybe
that's
something
we
can
look
at
with
staff.
There's
a
shared
parking
arrangement.
I.
Don't
think
we've
designed
that,
but
you
raise
a
good
point
that
the
you
know
the
peak
the
peak
for
the
industrial
use
is
not
going
to
be
the
peak
for
the
public,
access
use
and.
AF
Right,
no
for
for
295!
That's
the
address
here.
The
comment
from
a
commissioner
was
to
add
a
good
sign
on
on
Eastern,
Avenue
and
again
we'll
work
with
staff.
It's
really
up
to
I
mean
usually
with
developers.
They
want
to
do
all
kinds
of
more
signage
than
you
want.
So,
of
course
we're
amenable
to
that.
But
there
isn't
any
this
isn't
the
kind
of
building
where
we
would
try
to
Brand
it.
AF
N
J
You
go
ahead
continuing
on
the
managing
piece,
who's
in
charge
of
making
sure
Landscaping
stays
like
like
the
public
access,
looks
nice.
There's
no
littering
things
like
that.
Yeah.
AF
No,
that
that's
ownership's
responsibility-
and
you
have
you-
have
built
and
suspenders
here
in
many
cities
there
just
isn't
the
staff
to
monitor
that
you
know.
So.
If
an
owner
is
falling
down
on
the
on
the
job,
you
might
not
necessarily
catch
it,
it's
difficult
to
go
after
them.
Here
you
also
have
state.
This
is
a
state
permit,
so
we're
going
to
have
to
get
a
chapter
91
license
from
Mass
to
EP,
and
they
have
a
lot
of
experience
with
this.
AF
They'll
have
to
be
a
management
plan
that
you'll
see
public
document
and
there
are
advocacy
groups
in
Chelsea
would
be
green
Roots,
but
also
clf
conservation
law
Foundation.
Who
do
pay
attention
to
this
to
make
sure
that
it's
it's
it's
done.
So
there
is
sort
of
a
a
a
track
record,
especially
for
the
coastal,
the
coastal
access
and
and
establish
standards
of
how
wide
it
must
be,
making
sure
it's
clear
if
it
is
being
used
in
Winter.
Does
it
need
to
be
plowed
if
a
bench
is
broken,
you
know
fix
it.
AF
Now
the
security
is
a
good
question.
You
know
the
the
balance.
What
we
often
see
is
a
dawned
dusk
rule
because
that's
what's
safest
for
the
public
and
so
the
question,
that's
right.
Lighting,
I'm,
sorry
I
didn't
mean
to
forget
that
you
know
that's
that's
something
we
can
discuss.
I,
don't
think
the
developers
averse
to
necessarily
tonight
time
access,
but
it
may
not
be
something
that
Chelsea
wants.
It
may
create
more
problems
than
than
it
than
it
solves.
J
Thank
you
and
I'm
going
to
switch
over
to
the
topic
of
tenants.
I
know
it's.
D
J
AG
Haley
palazzola
of
GFI
Partners
I
work
with
Jackie.
So
as
Jackie
mentioned,
it's
a
speculative
Warehouse.
So
at
this
time
we
don't
know
users
what
we're
seeing
in
the
marketplace.
Right
now
is
a
lot
of
these
Urban
industrial
users
that
are
really
important
to
Industry
in
the
city
of
Boston
city
of
Chelsea
are
kind
of
getting
pushed
out
from
the
bigger
users.
AG
So
by
subdividing
the
space
you
know,
we
see
these
business
to
business,
tenants
who
are
making
deliveries
to
other
businesses
so
kidding
inside
the
warehouse,
some
sort
of
manufacturing,
light
manufacturing,
not
heavy
manufacturing
assembly
of
products,
finished
products,
wholesale
storage
and
then
out
the
door,
so
not
a
high
traffic
user
and
because
it's
an
urban
Warehouse,
we
don't
expect
the
wb67s
pulling
in
and
out
of
this
site,
it's
more
of
the
box
trucks.
So,
just
to
give
you
an
example,
we
own
a
warehouse
in
Hyde,
Park,
Boston
cats,
rubis.
AG
We
we
estimate
about
100
employees
for
the
three
tenants
again
speculative
and
that's
over
a
24-hour
period,
so
typically
into
two
two
or
three
shifts,
depending
on
how
the
tenants
operate.
Thank
you
sure.
AF
Just
to
amplify
what
we're
seeing
in
Boston
so
again
down
in
near
mass
and
casts
and
so
on,
all
these
sort
of
dead,
Warehouse
spaces
are
just
being
pushed
out.
They're,
not
you
know
they
have
nowhere
to
go
so
the
demand
is
high
because
the
land
pressure
is
so
much
to
redevelop
that
for
other
uses.
So
Chelsea
is
a
great
location
for
them,
because
it's
an
inner
suburb,
it's
convenient
to
the
population
centers
and
you
know
that's
that's
the
Target
that
they're
looking
for
thanks.
G
AF
That
I
I'd
also
like
to
call
on
Pearl
Allen,
who
knows
who's
been
working
on
the
public
access.
You
know
for
Chelsea
writ
large,
so
I
I
can't
speak
to
what's
happening
off-site
on
Eastern
Avenue
I
mean
I,
will
say:
I
I,
don't
think
it's
particularly
welcoming
pedestrian
environment.
Now,
that's
true
on
our
site.
Again
from
my
experience
elsewhere
and
with
chapter
91
there,
there
will
be
signage,
making
clear
that
it's
Public
Access,
so
yes,
you're
right,
the
the
public
may
see
an
industrial
building
and
not
quite
know
whether
they're
allowed
there.
AF
AD
AD
Both
the
Mill
Creek
path,
but
also
the
probably
most
profound,
is
that
well
known
the
245
257
marginal
path,
where
there's
a
few
parking
spots
that
are
kind
of
beat
up
and
a
small
little
green
sign.
That
says
for
public
only
with
a
tiny
little
arrow
and
hardly
anyone
knows
it's
there.
It's
encased
in
eight
foot
tall
chain
like
fences
on
both
sides.
AD
That's
exactly
what
we're
trying
to
avoid.
So
that's
what
I
can
say.
I
will
also
say
from
our
experience.
AH
AD
Want
to
no
one
says
that
in
Chelsea
anymore,
but
those
of
us
and
amazingly,
we
built
the
park
and
a
few
years
later,
the
city
came
in
and
built
a
beautiful
crosswalk
at
the
end
of
Charles
Street.
To
get
so.
Some
of
these
things
kind
of
do
need
to
grow
in
time.
G
AD
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
there
are
a
series
of
crosswalks
that
provide
access
from
the
Burke
complex
today,
so
I
don't
mean
to
make
it
sound
like
it's
an
unsafe
Crossing
area,
particularly
under
the
supervision
of
like
teachers.
AD
We
have
had
preliminary
conversations
with
green
roots
and
then
the
principles
of
Burke
Elementary
about
that
sort
of
desire
to
come
and
just
have
out
participation
on
the
creek
I
think
others
have
said
and
I'll
say:
yeah
I'd
love
it
at
that
intersection
was
about
evaluated.
It.
G
Would
also
be
helpful
to
clarify
that
with
the
community
as
far
as
how
they
might
be
able
to
utilize
that
public
amenity
and
if
you
have
three
tenants,
I'm
imagining
you're
not
going
to
have
one
of
one
of
yourselves
there
on
site
and
it's
just
going
to
be
the
tenants
so
who
would
they
make
arrangements
with?
All
of
that
needs
to
be
clarified?.
AF
Think
the
ensuring
that
the
public
access
is
real
and
not
theoretical.
That's
that's
what
I
mean
by
a
management
plan
in
practice
has
to
be
good
signage,
having
the
on-site
management.
So
when
a
new
time
comes
in,
they
know
under
their
lease.
This
is
the
situation.
These
parking
spaces
are
reserved
for
the
public.
You
cannot
use
them
if
we're
able
to
work
out
a
shared
parking
Arrangement
same
thing.
AF
So
no
you're
right
those
details
are,
are
the
sort
of
thing
that
you
would
have
to
see
in
a
plan
as
a
condition
of
approval.
AI
Good
evening,
members
of
the
board,
my
name-
is
Natalie
Salomon
I
am
an
attorney
at
fictional
partners
and
I
represent
glyptol
of
New
Hampshire,
the
owner
of
305
Eastern
Ave,
the
next
door
neighbor
of
295
Eastern
Ave.
As
the
engineer
Katie
alluded
to
earlier,
my
client
had
some
concerns
with
respect
to
the
drainage.
Very
briefly.
Currently,
my
client's
property
is
tied
into
295
the
295
drainage
system.
AI
So
since
there
will
be
a
brand
new
drainage
system
installed,
my
client
is
concerned
about
you
know
how
will
its
property
drain
and,
as
KD
also
explained
earlier,
I'm
happy
to
report
that
the
parties,
my
client
and
295
eastern
half
have
been
discussing
so
that
they
can
find
a
plan
that
would
alleviate
the
concerns
that
my
client
has
with
respect
to
the
drainage.
AI
Our
engineer
has
been
talking
to
Katie
and
he's
actively
working
to
get
all
the
information
he
needs
to
submit
a
plan
to
295
and
as
of
right
now,
295
Eastern
Ave
has
indicated
that
it
is
open
to
having
a
connection
from
305
Eastern
Ave
to
its
new
drainage
system.
But
295
Eastern
Ave
wants
to
see
our
Engineers
plan
and
that's
fair,
so
we're
working
really
hard
to
get
all
that
information.
As
I
said
right
now.
Our
engineer
will
is
in
the
process
of
getting
a
survey
and
also
to
a
topographic
plan.
AI
He
will
get
that
tomorrow.
We
will
get
also
some
soil
testing
done
next
Tuesday
and
we're
working
as
fast
as
we
can.
But
we
appreciate
that
the
discussion
is
ongoing
and
that
our
concerns
has
been
heard
and
hopefully
we
can
get
to
a
solution
that
will
again,
as
I
said,
alleviate
any
concerns
that
my
client
has
with
respect
to
the
drainage
and
I
will
add.
Also
one
point
at
the
zoning
board
meeting.
AI
My
client
had
some
concerns
with
respect
to
Public
Access,
specifically,
my
client
The
Proposal
seemed
to
suggest
that
the
public
would
be
using
my
clients
property,
but
we
have
been
able
to
clarify,
with
attorney
eigerman,
that
that's
not
going
to
be
the
case
that
in
fact
the
public,
either
by
car
or
The
Pedestrian
will
only
be
using
Eastern
Ave
and
that
there
will
be
no
public
use
or
through
my
clients,
property.
So
we're
happy
about
that
and
therefore
there's
no
concern
anymore
about
that
potential.
Public
use
of
my
clients,
probably
thank.
A
You,
what
would
you
are
you
suggesting
that
the
board
I
mean
you're,
not
suggesting
that
we
wait
until
next
Tuesday
when
you
get
this
plan
before
we
vote.
AI
We
would
like
to
vote
to
know
what
our
client's
concern
is
and
I
am
updating
you
about
what
the
progress
has
that
the
progress
has
been
made
to
address
that
concern
that
my
client
has
so
I
am
hoping
that
we
can
find
a
solution
that
will
work
for
all
of
us
and
I
will
I
plan
on
further
updating
the
board
about
what?
A
To
this
letter.
A
AI
In
this
particular
letter,
I
seemed
to
suggest
that
there
was
no
pipe
that
tied
from
305
to
295.
Since
then,
since
that
letter
was
sent
to
the
board,
our
engineer
has
spoken
with
Katie
and
is
it
is
my
understanding
that
Katie
has.
AI
Understands
that
they
they
there
is
a
pipe
somewhere,
although
it
is
not
clear
exactly
where
the
location
of
that
pipe
is
and
I'm.
That's
my
understanding
of
those
conversations
between
my
engineer
and
and
Katie
here,
so
to
answer
your
question
that
that
letter
at
the
time
that
it
was
prepared,
was
done
before
Katie
had
a
chance
to
speak
with
our
engineer,
Peter,
who
has
been
on
site
and
has
provided
additional
information
to
Katie.
AF
AI
Q
So
Thomas
ambrosino
city
manager,
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
The
city
has
no
substantive
opinion
on
this
matter
of
discussion
between
glyptol
and
a
GFI
other
than
to
say
this
is
a
matter
of
discussion
between
two
sophisticated
business
owners
and
it
can
and
should
be
resolved,
but
what
it
shouldn't
do
is
hold
up
a
permitting
by
this
by
City
boards
on
a
project
that
serves
the
city's
best
interests.
Q
I,
say
that
because
the
city
has
been
working
with
this
developer
for
a
year
since
the
day
he
first
acquired
this
property,
we've
been
working
closely
with
them
to
try
to
come
to
a
meeting
of
the
mind
on
an
industrial
development,
because
this
is
an
industrial
site
that
would
both
meet
the
needs
of
the
developer,
but
also
serve
the
interests
of
the
city.
This
is
a
site
that
has
been
Barren
for
many
years.
The
city
has
desired.
Q
To
see
it
develop,
wanted
to
see
it
developed
commercially,
made
a
commitment
that
it
would
be
a
commercial
site
given
how
much
residential
development
we
had
previously
permitted
right
next
door
at
Forbes,
and
so
we
were
committed
to
trying
to
find
something
that
worked
for
both
sides
and
after
literally
years
of
back
and
forth
discussion,
we
feel
we
came
to
a
meeting
of
the
minds
on
a
development
that
works
for
both
sides.
It
works
for
the
city
because
this
is
going
to
as
aesthetically
significantly
improve
this
particular
site.
Q
It
has
economic
benefits
of
the
city,
obviously
being
a
commercial
building
that
will
generate
tax
dollars
on
a
currently
vacant
parcel
and
the
most
largest
selling
point
of
the
city
has
been
this
robust,
Public
Access
that
they
have
committed
to
creating.
Here.
It
was
done
specifically
with
at
the
city's
request.
We
urge
them
to
work
closely
with
our
environmental
justice
group
on
the
waterfront
green
rooms.
They
did
exactly
that.
Q
They
came
to
a
plan
that,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
satisfied
everyone,
and
so
the
city's
very
pleased
with
this
end
result
and
I
urge
the
board
to
both
approve
the
site
plan
and
to
recommend
favorably.
The
special
permits
of
the
zoning
board
of
appeals,
I
think
Kyle,
may
want
to
add
a
few
things.
I
will
I
want
to
give
Carl
and
his
department
and
our
extreme
real
credit.
They
worked
tirelessly
with
this
developer
to
come
up
with
a
plan
that
served
the
public
and
I
think
this
does.
Thank
you.
AJ
Subsequent
to
that
about
four
years
ago,
the
city
started
a
municipal
Harbor
plan,
which
was
just
approved
by
the
state.
This
past
spring,
the
municipal
Harbor
plan
codified
the
community's
vision
for
the
Waterfront
in
Chelsea
Creek,
the
two
primary
desires
of
the
community
were
open
space
and
access
to
the
Waterfront,
and
the
second
was
jobs.
AJ
This
project
is
bringing
both
of
those
to
reality,
I'm
hoping
we'll
get
a
few
more
than
100
jobs
out
of
this,
but
the
types
of
businesses
that
they're
talking
about
offered
the
types
of
jobs
which
Chelsea
residents
can
Thrive
at
and
support,
families
using
and
that's
very
important
to
the
city,
I'm
I
believe
that
this
is
grossly
over
parked
and
that
hopeful
that
a
lot
of
the
workers
will
live
in
Chelsea
and
actually
walk
and
bike
to
their
jobs
rather
than
drive
cars.
AJ
It's
certainly
accessible
for
that
and
we'll
figure
out
what
to
do
with
all
these
extra
Acres
of
surface
parking
at
some
point
in
the
future.
After
we
understand
what
the
actual
behavior
of
the
tenants
is
going
to
be,
but
so
again
you
brought
up
the
issue
of
security
and
access.
That's
not
under
our
purview.
That's
under
Massachusetts,
waterways
and
DEP
in
general.
Chapter
91
acts,
as
has
to
be
24
7
without
restriction,
whether
they
want
to
make
exceptions
or
not,
but
in
a
building
that,
hopefully
will
be
operational.
AJ
We're
hoping
that
most
of
the
tenants
will
want
to
work
three
shifts
and
one
to
employ
people
on
all
three
ships
and
all
three
might
not,
but
you
know,
hopefully
one
or
two
of
them
will
because
that's
going
to
maximize
the
job
density
on
the
site
and
Drug
density
was
critical
element.
One
of
the
outcomes
of
the
harbor
plan
was
the
city
modified.
It
Zoning
for
the
Waterfront.
AJ
As
you
had
to
weigh
in
on
about
two
years
ago
now-
and
this
is
the
first
project
that
is
implementing
the
new
city
requirements
of
continuous
accents
to
the
public
along
the
edge
of
the
Waterfront
and
we're
very
excited
by
that
I-
think
as
it
once
it's
built
the
community.
You
know
it's
going
to
take
a
while
for
the
community
to
become
aware
of
it
using
it
as
an
elementary
school
living.
AJ
Outdoor
Classroom
will
help
immensely
and
letting
people
know
that
this
facility
and
amenity
is
available
to
the
community.
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
we
didn't
see
things
like
green
Roots,
occasionally
throwing
one
of
their
member
meetings
out
on
the
site
to
kind
of
publicize
and
celebrate
this
new
piece
of
Chelsea.
AJ
The
requirement
for
continuous
access
includes
connections
to
any
neighboring
properties.
We
anticipate
well,
Forbes
is
going
up
for
auction
in
a
week
and
a
half,
and
we
may
see
forward
movement
on
that
development.
But
one
of
the
requirements
of
the
Forbes
development
will
be
the
connection
to
this
property
and
GFI
has
kindly
donated
half
a
million
dollars
to
help
us
make
sure
that
that
happens
as
Tom
did.
I
urge
you
to
recommend
in
favor
of
the
special
permits
and
this
evening
to
approve
the
site
plan.
Thank
you.
AJ
A
Okay,
hearing:
none
do
we
have
a
motion,
we're
gonna,
do
the
special
permit.
First.
B
I
have
conditions
recommend
design
review
impact
fee
payment,
as
agreed
by
the
petitioner
meepa
required
improvements,
improvements
included
in
the
traffic
report,
a
signage
plan
and
a
site
management
plan.
D
B
A
Okay,
the
site
plan
approval.
D
A
K
AB
E
AK
Me
Mr
chairman
members,
the
board
good
evening:
Anthony
Ross,
your
reperto
petitioner,
Mr,
scalao,
who's,
the
proprietor
and
one
of
the
establishment
as
president
with
us
today
he
does
have
his
project
managers
four
minutes
on
site
in
the
back.
Basically,
this
application
is
petitioned,
is
Mr
Squall
I've
been
operating
his
masonry
company
there
that
originally,
he
was
signed,
orders
from
his
father
47
years
ago
here
in
Chelsea,
and
what
he's
looking
to
do
is
on
the
existing
footprint.
AK
Take
a
portion
of
the
building,
on
top
of
the
same
footprint
intake
about
1800
square
feet,
to
add
a
second
story
Edition
on
it,
so
be
two
stories
not
to
exceed
two
stories
and
basically,
what
he's
trying
to
do
is
he
currently
has
offices.
On
the
first
floor,
it's
four
offices
and
the
conference
room
and
another
assisting
room,
the
printing
room
that
he
uses
on
the
first
floor,
coupled
with
they
store
some
brick
masonry
products
and
so
forth
on
site,
and
it's
got
a
garage
front.
AK
And
now
what
he's
trying
to
do
is
move
those
offices
to
the
second
floor,
so
they
have
a
better
spot.
To
put
you
know,
nicer
offices
and
so
forth
and
be
more
manageable
and
I
believe
we'll
show
you
pictures
so
in
the
mornings.
This
is.
This
is
how
it
is
on
the
inside.
So
imagine
how
you
have
offices
in
the
back
here
with
they
come
in
the
morning.
They
come
and
pick
up
their
trucks.
AK
AK
It's
more
that
they
want
to
have
offices
on
this
second
floor,
so
it's
better
office
based
than
being
on
the
ground
level,
with
all
this
other
equipment
and
vehicles
going
in
and
out
in
the
mornings.
So
essentially,
what
he's
trying
to
do
is
just
build
a
second
story.
AK
On
top
of
it,
I
know
we
had
many
conversations
with
the
butters,
the
neighbors
and-
and
they
were
now
in
support
from
speaking
to
them
and
not
against
what
he's
doing
here
and
as
far
as
the
abutting
structures,
nothing,
nothing
in
the
nature
and
the
abutting
properties
are
higher
than
what
he's
currently
being
proposing
before
the
board.
It's
more
just,
you
know,
building
a
better
quality
space
for
his
staff,
and
it's
about
I
want
to
say
it's
close
between
16
to
1800
square
feet.
C
The
second
story
wouldn't
cover
the
entire,
so
it
would
only
be.
It
looks
like
a
little
more
than
a
half
correct,
okay,
correct.
B
A
AK
AK
Yes,
in
fact,
the
notice
was
brought
by
the
city
and
to
they
sent
it
to
300
feet
of
all
the
abundance
and
Mr
scholau
has
actually
had
a
good
relationship
with
the
abundance.
In
fact,
he
parked
his
vehicles
and
one
of
the
about
his
lots,
that
has
commercial
lot
and
on
it,
and
they
don't
have
an
objection,
because
the
height
itself,
anyways
he's
almost
at
the
corner,
is
it's
very
minimal.
The
Minimus
compared
to
the
you
know
the
homes
and
the
back
area,
it's
actually
less
far
less
than
their
height.
AK
G
AK
E
K
B
If
you,
if
you
want
to
go
I'm,
sorry
I
should
have
told
you
sooner
there's
still
one
item
that
you
have
left
yeah.
A
B
Through
that
job
sure,
so
there
was
a
proposal
by
a
by
the
new
one.
So
this
is
the
site
where
the.
A
A
B
There
was
where
they
shoot
paintballs
the
paintball
that
company
is
gone
so
the
place
is
empty.
The
owner
received
some
inquiries
from
Tesla
who
would
like
to
put
in
electric
vehicle
or
repairs
facility
in
that
site,
and
it's
not
permitted
in
that
shopping
center
District.
This
would
be
to
allow
it
I'm
telling
you
I'm
I'm
opposed
to
a
electric
Collision
vehicle
collision
repair
in
the
shopping
center
District,
but
it
would
not
limited
just
the
shopping
center
District.
B
It
would
also
allow
it
in
the
by
special
permit
in
the
highway
business
and
the
industrial
district
I
did.
The
owner
of
the
site
did
come
in
my
office
this
morning
and
told
me
that
Tesla
is
no
longer
interested
in
the
site.
They
found
another
site,
but
he
did
ask
for
it
to
go
forward.
Just
in
case
me,.
B
Yes,
in
the
industrial
district
on
not
Gary
Chev
on
Griffin.
D
E
E
B
C
G
G
You
know
repairs
and
inspections
if
they
allowed
it.
So
there's
a
real
demand
for
it,
because
the
airport's
right
there
and
there's
fleets
of
Teslas
so
I
don't
object
to
the
use,
but
we
don't
want
to
have
more
traffic
for
people
coming
to.
You
know
charge
their
vehicle
before
they
drop
it
off
at
the
airport
or
whatever.
My.
B
E
E
B
E
Right
so
this
they
have
up
in
the
north
in
the
north,
exactly
what
they
have
Tesla's
prototype.
They
go
where
that's
why
they're
in
shopping
malls?
That's
why
they're
right,
because
that's
why
they're
not
in
because
I
I
have
a
different
view,
I
kind
of
like
the
idea
of
them
being
there
I
agree
that
traffic
on
Western
Ave
is
I,
live
there.
It
is
a
nightmare,
but
it's
it's!
You
know.
I
I,
see
John's
point
but
I
sort
of
think
it's
what
well,
if
it's
Tesla's
not
going
to
be
there.
There's
no
point.
B
No,
these
are
the
two
Shopping
Center
District.
This
is
where
Home
Depot
is.
This
is
Market
Basket,
the
blue
is
the
industrial
district
and
the
the
reddish
pink
is
the
highway
business
where
it
would
be
permitted
otherwise,
but
now,
if
you
go
back
to
the
purpose
of
the
districts,
so
Highway
purpose
of
a
highway
business
to
provide
here
is
a
retail
business
serving
Vehicles
Automotive
Sales.
So
obviously
it
it's.
The
type
of
use
that
you
want
in
those
districts
shopping
center
is
for
retail
sales
and
services.
E
Having
a
very
difficult
time
retaining
clients,
it's
the
reason
why
shopping
centers
are
dying
all
over
the
and
one
of
the
ways
to
either
is
some
of
them
are
becoming
restaurant
ghettos,
which
are
very
interesting
ideas,
they've,
come
to
restaurant
purposes
or
I
thought
like
I,
said,
I,
think
Tesla
is
sort
of
an
atypical
realtor,
but
he
has
a
they.
It's
a
very
cleverly
run
business.
Who
knows
that
they
liked
a
little
rocket
up
there.
Who
knows.
B
E
I
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
if
I
mean
I'll
I'll
go
well.
D
D
B
B
It's
being
proposed
that
this
be
allowed
by
a
major
site
plan
review,
and
then
so
you
have
to
include
that
in
the
list
of
uses
that
require
major
site
plan,
and
then
you
have
to
amend
the
table
of
uses
to
allow
by
SP
a
special
permit.
So.
C
B
B
Do
your
recommendation
can
be
anything
of
to
accept
it,
as
is,
are
not
accepted
at
all
or
make
changes
to
it?
Okay,.
G
B
G
B
Mean
not
as
if
they
could
propose
the
use
and
then
like
the
Griffin
Way
site,
they
have
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
on
there,
as
well
as
an
amenity
for
people
who
are
picking
up
their
vehicles.
I
I,
don't
think
there
would
be
anything
preventing
the
Tesla
or
whatever
of
doing
that
here.
Okay,.
G
L
E
E
G
E
D
I
B
B
Yeah
right
right
behind
the
I,
don't
know
the
name.
G
B
And
the
300
unit
or
2050
unit
apartment
building
right
across
the
street
from
it.
C
But
a
pair
had
expressed
interest
in
the
property
to
use
for
collision
repair
they're
no
longer
interested,
but
we,
you
know
the
city
council
has
put
forward
this
amendment
or
yeah
amendments
to
allow
for
electric
vehicle
collision
repair
in
certain
districts.
I.
L
L
A
A
J
J
Okay,
so
Charlene
started
the
motion.
So
if
you
want
to
do
the
motion
I.
C
I,
you
know
Amendment
one
an
amendment
to
as
written
as
we're
seeing
them
on
the
screen.
Right
now
are
fine.
My
issue
is
with
the
third
Clause
I
would
say:
I
would
not
want
to
allow
it
in
the
shopping
center.
District
I
think
that
needs
to
be
removed
from
this.