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From YouTube: Zoning Board of Appeals of 4-11-23
Description
City of Chelsea
A
B
Board
of
appeals,
I
am
Janice
tatarka.
This
is
Marilyn
Vega,
Torres,
Joe,
Mahoney
and
Hugo
Perdomo,
and
on
this
side
we
have
a
John
dupriest
and
Hector
Velez.
The
first
case
in
front
of
us
is
20
22,
36,
6971,
Spencer
Ave
z-padge
development
for
special
permit
variants,
seeking
approval
to
demolish
the
existing
two-family
structure
and
for
the
construction
of
a
15
dwelling
unit
structure,
which
does
not
meet
the
city
of
Chelsea's
zoning
ordinance
for
maximum
density,
off-street
parking,
minimum
lot
size
and
minimum
open
space.
I'm
going
to
remind
you
that
this
is
being
taped.
B
C
B
C
B
B
C
David
can
John.
Do
you
have
the
oh
good?
So
essentially,
this
is
a
two
unit
dwelling
that
it's
a
large
site
and
it's
being
converted
to
15
residential
units.
After
working
with
the
city
on
this
project,
we
actually
increase
the
amount
of
the
affordable
units
to
be
for
correct
for
four
affordable
units.
So
it's
far
more
than
What's
allowed
on
I
believe
with
required
three
units,
and
we
jumped
it
up
to
four
affordable
units,
four
inclusion,
every
units
it
would
have
by
right.
C
C
Yes,
I
apologize!
Thank
you!
Yes,
and
these
are
the
colored
renderings
and
he
did
the
adjoining
property
next
door.
It
came
out
great
I
think
the
city
was
very
pleased
with
it
and
he
acquired
the
property
next
door
to
do
this
development,
the
budding
property
owner
outside
of
my
client.
We
when
we
went
to
the
planning
board,
they
were
concerned
that
they
might
be
against
it,
because
the
parking
was
on
that
side
of
the
property
and
they
weren't
going
to
support
something
without
having
influence
or
hear
from
him.
C
B
It's
a
letter
to
whom
they
concern.
I
am
Marvin
Sanchez
volcadano,
a
president
of
Chelsea
Mass
and
I
live
and
own
65
Spencer
Ave.
Next
to
the
Mario
zapages
property,
I've
reviewed
the
planes
and
I've
been
paid
for
the
project,
fully
supporting
Mario
I
like
the
new
new
building.
It's
designed
and
appreciate
this
will
bring
the
value
of
my
house
up.
It
will
be
an
improvement
for
our
street
in
the
city
of
Chelsea.
I,
know
Mario's
good
developer
and
that
he'll
do
a
good
job
just
like
he
did
at
75
Spencer
Ave.
C
And
essentially
that
is
the
only
a
butter
outside
of
my
client
that
abuts
the
property.
My
client
owns
the
other
property.
So
we
didn't
have
that
at
the
last
hearing,
because
we
would
we
didn't
know.
That
was
a
concern
for
the
planning
board,
but
we
certainly
did
want
to
provide
it
to
the
board
that
he
did
see
the
plans.
My
client
one.
B
C
C
C
A
C
The
owner
next
door
actually
has
a
four
foot
stone
wall,
That's
sort
of
on
this
side
here,
so
we
also
creating
a
fence
and
screening
on
this
side,
on
top
of
it
to
to
get
rid
of
that
aesthetic
hybrid,
you
know-
and
we
do
have
green
space
here
and
green
space
around
the
perimeter
of
the
building.
The
only
violations
really
are
the
amount
of
units,
because
it
goes
by
the
square
footage
of
the
lot
size
and
on
the
12
000
square
feet.
The
lot
size
would
recall
12
units
and
we
have
5
15..
C
Or
yes,
especially,
this
would
be
a
variance
requirement
and
the
only
other
thing
was
open
space
and
the
open
space
we're
at
113
square
feet,
and
it's
150
and
and
I
do
want
to
know
that
a
big
problem
with
this
property
is
it's
in
flood
zone.
So
on
the
new
floodplain
rules
because
of
the
grading,
and
we
have
to
bring
the
grading
up
in
order
to
to
comply
with
the
flood
zone
and
those
the
those
are.
The
three
variances.
A
C
Correct
and
this
property
is
in
a
flood
zone
so
as
a
result
of
that,
there's
only
so
much
space
because
we're
going
to
take
the
building
up
and
we
didn't
want
to
do
a
roof
deck
based
on
hearing
from
Neighbors
who
not
wanted
to
see
roof,
decks
and
so
forth,
but
we're
pretty
much
almost
close
to
the
required
open
space.
But
we
didn't
want
to
take
away
parking
to
create
more
open
space.
The
building
will
be,
of
course,
a
fully
sprinkler
building
and
David.
Does
the
building
have
an
elevator?
No?
C
C
F
D
C
C
H
I
C
No
yep,
no,
it
was
never
an
elevator.
It's
three
stories.
I
asked.
If
there
was
that's
why
and
as
far
as
snowball
move
was
concerned,
any
condition
of
course,
but
this
will
be
just
like
he
does
the
other
parking
lot.
He
does
Private
to
know
my
clients
a
contractor.
He
maintains
the
property
but
any
excess
snow.
I
C
I
B
C
H
B
D
B
B
A
B
C
H
I
C
And
there
was
nobody's
ever
posing
it
in
the
penny
board.
The
big
concern
was
the
butter
next
door,
because
which
is
why
we
got
the
letter.
Thank
you
we
just
didn't
want
to.
We
didn't
want
to
continue
the
hearing,
because
my
client
really
wants
to
try
to
move
forward,
and
especially
in
the
dead
of
you
know,
it
doesn't
want
to
build
this
in
the
winter
time.
If
the
sport
approved
it,
he
wants
that
construction
right
away,
but.
A
A
B
B
C
Yeah
my
client,
because
he
owns
the
next
one
he
owns
all
of
his
property.
He
doesn't
sell
them.
I
I
can
tell
you
that
as
far
as
the
developer
and
build
is
concerned,
he's
there
like
three
four
times
a
week.
He
loves
his
properties.
I
think
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
they
bought
a
light,
what
he
did
next
door
and
saw
it
in
two
years.
What
he's
done
and
he's
committed
to
continue
to
do
so
he's
not
one
of
those
guys
who
buys
and
flips
he
buys
it.
C
He
builds
it
himself
and
he
keeps
him
and
he
maintains
them
and
the
size
of
the
units
like
I,
think
more
wanted
more
two-bedroom
units
than
more
than
that.
The
one
bedrooms
are
too
small,
because
the
one
bedrooms
are,
you
know
pretty
standard
in
in
new
construction
550.
You
know
actually,
some
of
them
even
larger
600
square
feet
or
a
thousand
square
for
two
bedrooms.
C
But
why
not
have
more
two
bedrooms
but
in
and
to
do
these
type
of
projects
you
know
and
you're
getting
you're
doing
one
bedrooms
you
want
to
have
you
don't
want
to
have
parking
on
the
street?
That's
why
you
do
more
one
bedrooms
and
so
forth,
and
we
give
the
city
more.
You
know
for
inclusion,
every
units
rather
than
three
to
do
so.
B
A
B
Oh
yeah
I'm,
so
thank
you.
Mr
Rossi,
yes,
variances!
Yes,
let's
go
through
the
variances.
Where
are
my
conditions?
John
I?
Don't
have
my
conditions
right
there?
Okay,
the
okay,
specifically
we're
looking
for
variances
for
again
remind
us
for
minimum
lot
size,
maximum
density
and
minimum
usable
open
space.
So
those
are
the
requirements.
Let's
go
back
and
let's
look
at
that.
A
C
So
that's
all
trickled
into
this,
which
is
why
the
topography
we
needed
a
variance,
because
if
not,
we
couldn't
build
within
the
setbacks
and
still
meet
the
floodplain
requirements
on
it,
and
I
will
note
that
it
doesn't
affect
the
general
of
the
zoning
District
when
there's
other
multi-unit
structures
on
similar
lot
size
on
the
street.
As
my
client
did
seek
similar
relief
on
the
adjoining
property
as
a
whole.
B
Well,
I
think
we
want
to
be
fair
here,
so
we,
you
know
one
of
the
things
I
said.
So,
if
we're
not
comfortable
with
this,
then
I
would
just
assume
if
we
well
I'm,
not
a
realtor,
so
I
don't
know
the
size,
but
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
to
be
I.
Would
rather
us
bring
this
back.
If
we're
there's
only
four
of
us
here,
there's
not
six
of
us.
If
we're,
if
we're
not
comfortable
making
a
decision
on
this
to
be
fair,
I,
don't
I
am
not
comfortable.
I
would
rather
move
it
to
next
month.
B
B
Because
I
mean
if
you
feel
that
we're
not
if
you
have
other
concerns
that
and
we
would
not
ultimately
get
an
unanimous
decision,
one
way
or
the
other
today
either
for
or
against,
then
I-
don't
think
it's
fair
as
we
begin
this
when
Mr
Rossi
earlier
said,
I
just
assume
not
deal
with
this
I'm
not
going
to
subject
him
to
I.
Think
that
would
be
inappropriate
for
us
to
decide.
Then.
B
That's
for
305.!
Oh
sorry,
no,
where
this
is
305.
That
has
nothing
to
do
with
this.
So
if,
if
your
concern
is
the
size
Joe,
then
I
think
that
you
may
want
to
ask
what
your
concern
is
and
ask.
If
that's
the
case,
then
be
prepared
to
come
back
next
month
with
how
those
sizes
of
the
apartments
compare
to
other
ones,
that
other
one
bedrooms
and
two
bedrooms
in
the
apartment
absolutely.
C
And
I
do
want
to
State
I,
don't
think
they
had
a
concern.
What
the
size
of
the
one
bedrooms
I
did.
They
wanted
to
see
more
two
bedrooms
rather
than
one
bedrooms,
because
actually
one
bedroom
was
an
average
around
550
square
feet.
Almost
every
new
building,
like
the
the
ones
they're
seeing
on
Chelsea
Clock,
the
average
one
bedroom
was
there
of
550
to
600
square
feet.
C
It's
more
that
we'd
like
to
have
more
families
and
more
two
bedrooms
in
these,
and
rather
than
having
more
one
bedrooms
and
twos
and
threes,
which
sort
of
goes
against
what
the
city's
multiple
objective
is.
Is
they
have
more
one
bedrooms
and
more
less?
You
know
transient
housing,
so
it
cut
both
ways.
So
it
wasn't
more
that
the
sizes,
because
the
550
a
square
feet
for
a
one
bedroom,
is
pretty
normal.
If
not
above
the
means,
their
concern
was
too
one
with
the
butter
that
they
don't
know.
C
If
you
had
noticed
if
he
knew
what
was
going
on
because
it
affects
them
the
most,
which
is
why
we
brought
the
letter
and
speaking
support
and
the
other
one
was
the
two
bedroom
mix.
They
wanted
to
see
more
two
bedrooms.
So
in
essence,
if
we
did
more
two
bedrooms,
we'd
have
less
units,
then
we'd
be
compliant,
but
then
we'd
have
we
lose
an
occlusion
every
unit,
so
it
was
sort
of
and
the
city
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
city,
but
their
objective
is
to
have
more
one-bedroom.
C
C
B
And
if
that
was
the
case,
then
what
you
would
do
is
ultimately
lose
if
not
lose
at
least
one,
if
not
more,
of
great
affordable
units,
so
that
would
be
the
impact.
So
it's
weighing
the
situation
of
it.
One
bedrooms
and
for
two
bedrooms
allow
there
to
be
more
inclusion,
I'm,
just
translating
or
inclusion
more
inclusionary
units.
If
we
expand
it,
so
I
mean
if
that's
and
in
other
words,
if
you're
concerned
something
different.
That's
fine,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
that's
what
I'm
hearing
that's
what
seems
to
be
The
Balancing.
C
B
C
B
B
H
B
Okay,
I
got
it
and
we're
going
to
do
that.
Next,
you
can
go
so
we
have
we're
going
to
take
this
slightly
out
of
order.
2023-03
305
Eastern
Ave
has
made
a
request
to
withdraw
without
prejudice.
Do
we
have
a
motion
to
grant
that
withdrawal
without
prejudice
made
by
by
Marilyn
Second
Joe,
all
in
favor.
C
B
The
next
case
in
front
of
us
is
2023-01
207
shirtless
Street
James
D'amico
Junior,
trustee
special
permit
seeking
approval
to
convert
the
first
floor,
Recreation
to
five
residential
units,
which
does
not
meet
the
minimum
requirement
for
off-street
parking,
as
well
as
the
special
permit
authorizing
extension
alteration
or
exchange
to
a
non-conforming
structure.
This
has
also
already
gone
to
the
planning
board
John.
What
did
they
say?
They.
F
F
B
B
A
F
B
H
B
B
B
B
That's
that's
the
time
we
can't.
No,
no,
you
can
you
can
it's
how
it
works.
You
come
to
this
special
for
a
special
permit.
You
come
in
front
of
the
zoning
board.
Then
we
have
to
go.
Then
it
has
to
go
two
weeks
later
to
the
planning
board
for
a
and
they
make
a
recommendation
back
to
us
and
it
comes
back
to
the
next
meeting.
So
it's
a
three-part
thing.
It
comes
to
us
one
then
planning
more
than
back
to
us.
So
you
can
make
the
presentation
today,
but
we
won't
be
deciding
this
okay,
okay,.
B
L
L
B
Do
you
know
that
you
need
variances
for
this,
so
you
should
you
should
make
sure
there
are
certain
the
way,
the
very
special
permits
we
have
a
little
discretion
variance.
Is
we
don't
so,
for
there
are
four
conditions
for
variance
which
you
should
get
the
information
for,
and
you
have
to
meet
all
of
them
yeah.
So
you
have
to
meet
all
four
of
the
requirements
for
us
to
be
able
to
approve
it.
So
you
need
to
justify
that
to
us.
So
that's
and
that's
your
responsibility,
we'll
work.
What
are
we
looking
at
for
the
I.
B
L
L
B
L
A
A
B
M
M
Because
of
the
bylaws
in
the
city
of
Chelsea,
it
requires
a
special
permit.
In
order
to
for
me
to
get
a
certificate
of
occupancy,
the
use
of
the
building
will
be
the
same
as
it's
always
been,
except
the
new
tenant
is
Textron
cooperation
and
the
airport
related
so
I'm
asking
the
board
to
allow
me
to
have
them
as
a
tenant
as
a
signed
lease
already,
instead
of
being
Warehouse
slash
office,
we
want
to
use
Warehouse,
slash
office,
airport
related
I.
Think,
basically,
that's
that's
all.
M
M
M
H
K
K
K
B
B
M
M
O
All
right,
hello,
everybody,
my
name
is
Dan
Hubbard
I'm
with
Causeway
development.
The
developer
here
with
our
architect,
Andres
and
lawyer,
Matt
Snell,
so
I
take
you
through
this
presentation.
This
site,
as
you
may
be
familiar
with,
is
the
Salvation
Army
site
just
down
the
road
from
here.
This
is
our
rendering
of
the
new
building
right
now,
just
a
one-story
building.
We
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
O
So
again,
I'm
sure
you're
familiar
with
this,
but
there's
a
location
on
the
right
and
the
existing
building
right
now,
just
the
one
story-
vacant
building
owned
by
the
city
next
slide,
some
more
existing
conditions,
the
front
on
the
left
and
that's
the
rear
on
Cherry
Street.
What
you'll
see
is
that
the
rear
is
a
little
bit
lower
than
the
front.
So
you
know
just
above
these
windows.
Here
is
the
first
floor
level.
O
So
our
goals
for
this
project,
primarily
we
wanted
to
create
affordable
home
ownership
opportunities
for
Chelsea
residents.
We
have
developed,
affordable
rental
throughout
Chelsea
for
the
past
10
years
or
so
we're
just
finishing
up.
Our
1005
Broadway
project
got
our
temporary
certificate
of
occupancy
yesterday,
I
believe
down
the
road
on
the
Revere
line.
So
what
we
heard
during
that
process
and
what
we've
heard
talking
to
the
city
quite
a
bit-
is
trying
to
find
ways
to
do
affordable
home
ownership
as
well
and
have
all
kinds
of
different,
affordable
housing
opportunities.
O
So
just
again
quickly-
probably
nothing
new
here,
but
you
know
with
our
38
apartments
that
are
opening
up
this
month
than
filling
up
on
Saturday.
We
got
3
000
applications
for
38
units.
We
know
that
half
of
Chelsea
households
are
rent
burdened
33
spend
more
than
50
percent
of
their
income
on
housing,
the
home
ownership
rate's
only
27,
so
we
just
need
a
massive
amount
of
quality,
affordable
housing
of
every
type.
O
O
We
can
get
into
the
affordable
median
income
levels
that
that
corresponds
to,
and
we
will
be
asking
the
state
for
the
maximum
allowable
preference
for
Chelsea
residents,
which
is
usually
a
70
preference
next
slide.
So
just
the
timeline
of
this
project.
It's
been
before
this
board,
so
the
city
was
able
to
get
a
special
permanent
variances
for
their
original
plan
in
2019
after
they
had
taken
the
property
and
brought
it
forward
in
May
2021,
the
city
put
out
an
RFP
to
find
a
developer
to
develop
the
site.
O
We
responded
held
some
public
meetings
to
review
our
proposal
last
summer
or
two
summers
ago.
The
city
council
approved
the
LDA
by
the
end
of
the
year.
We
executed
the
LDA
last
year
after
negotiating
for
a
little
while,
and
we
submitted
in
February
for
the
special
permit
and
variances
and
we're
in
front
of
the
planning
board
last
month.
O
So
just
a
reminder
of
the
previously
approved
project:
it
was
16
units
a
similar
height.
There
were
eight
parking
spaces,
so
half
a
space
per
unit
and
the
retail
was
smaller
at
966
square
feet
with
the
parking
tucked
behind
on
Cherry
Street,
and
so
it
received
variances
for
rear
yard
setback
and
usable
open
space
on
special
permit
for
the
parking
spaces,
both
number
and
location.
O
We
have
4
900
square
feet
most
of
the
first
floor
other
than
the
lobby
and
elevator
Lobby
it'll
be
five
stories
along
Broadway,
as
I
mentioned,
there's
kind
of
an
extra
half
story
in
the
back,
so
five
and
a
half
along
Cherry
Street,
we
have
the
parking
you'll
see
in
the
plans
comes
in
from
Cherry
Street
into
what
is
now
the
basement.
There
will
be
a
speed
ramp
down
to
that.
We
have
put
as
many
parking
spaces
as
we
possibly
could
down
there
and
we
have
19
spaces
down
there.
O
O
All
right,
so
this
list
of
relief
requested.
We
also
threw
in
the
previous
project
there
so
for
variances,
the
minimum
rear
setback
of
20
feet,
we're
proposing
zero,
just
like
the
previous
project,
which
is
the
existing
condition
on
the
site.
It's
built
back
to
the
property
line.
On
the
usable,
open
space.
O
We
are
proposing
550
square
feet,
which
Andreas
can
show
you
where
that
is
primarily
the
our
only
real
other
option
for
Open
Spaces.
The
roof
deck
would
prefer
to
put
solar
up
there,
and
so
we,
we
think,
that's
the
best
use
for
that
space
and
given
the
downtown
location
and
proximity
to
Parks,
we
thought
you
know
that's
a
better
use
for,
especially
for
families
than
going
up
to
the
fifth
Story
roof
deck
and
then
for
off
street
parking.
O
P
All
right,
let's
try
this
okay.
What
we
have
here
is
this
is
the
site.
It's
you
know,
I
highlighted
what
you
see
move
from
left
to
right
at
the
bottom.
That's
Broadway,
Cherry
Street
at
the
top
left
to
right.
This
is
just
a
civil
plan,
but
it
does
show
the
the
residential
entries
on
Broadway
and
also
our
connections
to
the
possible
Transformer
next
slide.
Please.
P
This
is
actually
the
architectural
floor
plan
we're
now
looking
at
what
we
call
the
first
floor
plan
that
would
be
accessed
right
from
Broadway
from
Broadway
the
two
double
doors
that
you
see
to
the
left.
That
would
be
the
doors
that
it
would
access
the
commercial
space,
4
900
square
feet
storefront
on
Broadway,
and
it
would
extend
all
the
way
to
the
back
with
opportunities
to
connect
to
Luther
place
to
the
right
of
those
two
double
doors.
We
have
the
residential
entry,
you
see
it's.
P
We
have
two
stairs
that
would
essentially
create
the
two
means
of
egress
that
serve
the
whole
building.
All
the
way
up
to
the
fifth
floor
and
the
cross
in
the
between
the
stairs
is
the
elevator.
So
this
is
an
elevator
building
that
would
provide
accessibility
throughout
the
building,
and
then
there
is
also
of
the
seconds
there.
There
is
a
path
out
to
Cherry
Street,
which
would
be
an
accessible
egress
path
to
as
a
second
means
of
egress.
P
Next
slide,
please
now
I'm
taking
you
down
to
the
basement
or
the
garage
level
we
sh
again,
Cherry
Street
is
on
the
top
of
the
slide.
What
you
see
to
the
right
is
is
a
speed
ramp
that
takes
you
down
from
Cherry
Street
down
to
essentially
the
existing
height
of
the
of
the
basement,
and
then
from
there
you
go
either
you
know
left
or
right
and
we
have
19
parking
spaces,
it's
nine
compact
spaces
and
10
full-size
spaces,
and
we
also
have
right
next
to
the
elevator.
P
Q
P
O
So
there
are
19
spaces,
so
there
will
be
nine
units
that
aren't
able
to
get
a
parking
space
here.
The
selection
for
the
units
we'll
go
through
a
standard,
Lottery
process.
That
is
how
we
currently
plan
to
allocate
the
parking
spaces.
Our
experience
in
similar,
affordable
housing
has
been
that
we
don't
have
one
car
per
space
that
actually
about
two-thirds
is
roughly
the
right
amount.
B
O
J
O
So
how
it
generally
Works
is,
they
will
purchase
their
condo
and
they
will
have
a
right
to
an
easement
in
the
parking
garage
instead
of
having
you
know,
fee
simple
interest
in
a
specific
space.
That's
how
we've
done
it
on
previous
projects.
It
allows
the
Condominium
Association
to
have
a
little
bit
more
control
over
the
garage
and
make
sure
somebody
doesn't.
You
know,
misuse
their
space
in
some
way,
but
it
will
be
some
level
of
control
like
that.
Okay,.
G
D
P
All
right
so
so
now
we're
looking
at
the
second
floor,
we
have
seven
units
per
floor
so
essentially
what
we're
going
to
be.
Looking
at
from
the
second
floor
to
the
fifth
floor,
it's
a
it's.
A
an
identical
floor
plans,
seven
units,
we
have
three
bedrooms,
one
three
bedroom
and
per
floor.
Three
two
bedrooms
and
three
one
bedrooms:
we've
located
the
three
bedrooms
and
the
two
bedrooms,
the
larger
units
in
the
corners
to
allowed
for
for
better
visibility
and
better
window
locations.
P
We,
as
you
I,
explained
before
we
have
the
two
means
of
egress,
and
we
have
one
common
area
with
that
would
have
a
window
and
to
provide
natural
light,
and
on
the
second
floor,
as
Dan
mentioned,
we
that's
where
we've
located
two
roof
decks
and
we're
trying
to
take
advantage
of
the
fact
that
we
are
taking
the
floor
plate
and
we're
bringing
it
in
to
allow
for
for
window
locations
and
because
we're
not
doing
that.
On
the
first
floor,
we
have
a.
P
P
Only
only
to
those
units
yeah
and
that's
because
we
have
a
roof
right
below
yep,
okay
and
as
we
as
we
next
slide.
Please,
oh
next,
one
there
you
go
so,
as
you
can
see
on
the
next
slide.
This
is
the
third
floor.
You
know
we
don't
see
the
roof
decks
anymore,
but
you
now
we
see
that
the
typical
floor
plan.
That
would
repeat
essentially
all
the
way
up.
P
We
do
have
on
the
on
the
fourth
and
the
fifth
floor
along
Broadway
and
the
building
steps
in
a
little
bit
to
create
some
architectural
interests.
So
so
that
is
the
one.
The
one
difference
on
the
fourth
and
fifth
floor
next
slide:
please,
you
can
see
that
at
the
bottom
right,
how
it
steps
in
a
little
bit
next
slide.
P
And
now
going
all
the
way
up
to
the
to
the
roof.
The
hatched
areas
is
the
the
areas
that
will
be
allocating
specifically
for
solar,
PV
and
we'll
make
sure
that
all
the
other
mechanical
equipment
is
it's
out
of
the
way
and
then
we'll
have
one
of
the
stairs
would
bring,
will
will
go
all
the
way
up
to
the
roof,
for
you
know,
for
maintenance
axes.
P
Only
for
maintenance
yeah
next
slide.
Please
now
now
we're
looking
at
the
elevations
as
they
as
they
stand
right
now,
the
top
elevation
or
is
as
if
you
would
see
it
from
from
Broadway
and
the
bottom
one
is
what
we
call
the
west
elevation.
So
it
would
be.
You
can
see
there,
it's
434
Broadway,
it's
sort
of
in
section
at
the
bottom.
P
P
That
is
the
entrance
to
the
garage,
and
then
you
see
a
man
door
or
right
next
to
it,
and
that
would
be
the
axis.
The
second
means
of
egress,
and
then
you
see
the
the
at
the
bottom
is
the
East
Elevation:
it's
either.
You
know
zero
loud
line,
so
there's
not
a
lot
of
Windows
there's
only
one
set
that
gives
of
Windows.
That
brings
light
to
a
common
area.
P
Next
slide,
please.
Now
this
is
a
section
of
the
building.
We
have
to
the
right
Broadway
to
the
left,
Cherry
Street,
and
this
is
where
you
can
get
a
sense
of
the
difference
in
elevations
between
Broadway
and
Cherry
Street,
it's
essentially
four
feet
of
difference
and
then
from
Cherry
Street
down
to
the
basement,
we're
looking
at
about
six
feet.
So
what
we're
negotiating
the
speed
ramp
is
six
feet
as
it
goes
down
as
the
cars
would
go
down
next
slide,
please,
oh
I,
think
and
I
think
that's
it.
Thank
you.
O
O
For
the
retail,
so
we
have
a
few
different
options.
We
have
been
speaking
to
Alberto
calvo
for
a
little
while
about
an
idea
for
the
space
we're
going
to
spend
a
good
amount
of
time
over
the
next
few
months
with
him,
hopefully
exploring
that,
ultimately,
the
retail
will
be
we'll
take
a
step
back,
the
retail
will
be
a
retail
condo.
The
idea
is
that
it
can
be
owned
by
whoever
the
user
is.
It
could
be
one
space,
it
could
be
two.
We
haven't
determined
that
yet
and.
B
B
J
O
What
we
are
hoping
I
mean
our
goal
for
the
retail
space
is
to
make
it
this
kind
of
community
Gathering
space.
So
we'd
like
it
to
be
that
for
the
building
residents,
but
also
for
the
greater
Chelsea
residents
as
well,
and
make
that
an
interesting
place
that
people
will
want
to
gather.
But
that
would
be
the
only
space.
H
B
F
H
A
H
D
H
O
Fundamentally,
the
need,
for
you
know,
I
mean
two
things.
One
make
the
project
work,
so
we
we
want
to.
You
know,
make
this
a
feasible
project.
The
city
you
know
bought
the
land
wanted
to
sell
it
to
us
at
a
certain
price.
So
we
needed
to
you
know,
fit
enough
units
to
make
it
work,
but
also,
fundamentally,
you
know
the
need
for
affordable
home
ownership
is
great,
being
able
to
get
your
hands
on
something
you
own
for
275
000,
you
know
build
generational
wealth.
O
That
way
is
a
really
difficult
thing
to
find.
There
is
currently
a
state
program
that
is
new
within
the
last
two
years
to
help
fund
these
type
of
developments,
there's
only
so
much
money
there
and
you
know
it's
good
to
use
it.
While
we
can
get
it
into
our
communities
while
we
can
not
let
Boston
take
it
all.
So
you
know
we
wanted
to
make
it
work.
We
you
know,
saw
the
existing
plan.
O
K
O
D
P
The
ones
in
terms
of
the
solar
panels,
they
need
to
be
10
feet
away
from
from
the
edge
of
the
of
the
building.
No,
and
you
can
in
the
diagram,
we
showed
it
in
the
in
that
hatched
area,
and
you
know
they
typically
yeah
will
be
flat
and
you
I
mean
that's
what
we
are
seeing
these
days
and
the
parapeters
would
essentially
cover
them.
So
you
wouldn't
really
be
able
to
see
them.
K
J
O
The
same
exact
height,
the
gap
between
the
first
floor
and
where
the
second
floor
started
was
much
higher.
So
if
you
look
at
the
difference,
it's
about
the
same,
of
course
you
know.
466
Broadway,
which
is
two
doors
down,
is
three
stories.
Then
we
have
a
two-story
building
next
door.
Then
the
one
story
across
the
way,
I
believe,
is
three
and.
A
O
J
O
We'll
get
everybody
in
go
through
a
lottery
once
you're
selected,
then
we
go
through
eligibility
with
the
various
preference
standards
such
as
Chelsea
City
resident,
hopefully,
and
then
you're
selected
from
there
and
then
you'll
have
a
set
amount
of
time
to
close
on
your
condo
and
usually
we're
we're
there
to
help
people
through
the
process,
because
it's
almost
all
first-time
homebuyers,
so
we
they
generally
use
the
one
mortgage
program.
There's
some
down
payment
assistance
available.
G
B
R
Carl
Allen
I'm
the
economic
development
planner
for
the
city
of
Chelsea
back
in
2017,
we
started
a
process
called
reimagine
Broadway,
and
this
was
one
of
the
sites
we
first
focused
on.
In
addition
to
changes
to
the
streetscape
I've
been
here
long
enough,
that
I
remember
the
Salvation
Army
and
we'll
be
very
happy
to
see
it
rip
down
in
the
very
near
future.
But.
R
Ripped
up
yes,
and
is
you
know,
John
was
saying
the
city
views
this
as
a
catalyst
to
creating
a
denser
broad
way
where
more
people
live.
There
are
more
people
on
the
street,
there's
more
people,
spending
money
along
the
corridor
and
improving
the
economic
well-being
of
downtown
Chelsea,
and
we
really
do
hope
to
see
this
type
of
project
replicated.
R
That's
also
likely
to
be
about
five
stories
and
in
terms
of
the
retail
I'm,
we're
trying
to
work
with
a
variety
of
people
and
figure
out
how
the
economics
of
purchasing
that
retail
condo
would
make
sense.
The
original
proposal
was
for
an
incubator
for
startup
businesses,
where
they
could
get
their
feet
wet
and
develop
a
clientele
before
expanding
into
larger
storefronts
in
downtown
Chelsea.
B
A
Oops
is
recommending
approval,
as
well
with
some
additional
conditions.
I
did
bring
this
to
the
historical
commission.
They
had
some
concern.
This
is
a
historical
District.
This
was
discussed
with
with
the
petition
at
the
planning
board.
They
had
some
concern
that
the
building
should
look
a
little
bit
more
like
the
buildings
across
the
street,
taking
some
of
the
historical
characters.
They
understand
that
a
new
building
is
not
supposed
to
look
exactly
like
the
old
historic
buildings.
O
Question
or
also
the
owner
of
466
Broadway,
which
is
two
doors
down
where
the
McDonald's
is
now
actually
their
trash
right
now
is
held
on
a
site
behind
440
Broadway.
It
is
a
little
lot
on
Cherry
Street
that
has
a
chained
off
dumpster
area.
Our
plan
is
to
use
this
project
as
a
way
to
really
improve
that
dumpster
area
and
make
it
much
nicer,
build
a
much
nicer
fence,
a
much
nicer
enclosure
and
use
it
for
both
these
properties.
So
what
we
have
is,
but.
A
One
of
the
conditions
I'm
recommending
it
submitted
to
my
department,
a
legal
easement
for
that
for
both
users,
because
because
you're
no
longer
going
to
own
this
building,
it's
actually
going
to
be
a
different
owner.
So
there
has
to
be
some
legal
agreement.
An
agreement
by
itself
can
go
away
anytime,
whereas
an
easement
a
little
bit
more.
O
B
O
O
B
O
O
O
Yeah,
exactly
you
know,
one
of
the
benefits
we
think
of
this
is
that
it
currently
you
know
we
have
a
garbage
company
goes
back.
There
picks
it
up,
we'll
be
able
to
just
continue
doing
that
without
having
another
stop
in
another
section,
for
you
know
blocking
up
Cherry
Street
during
that
process.
So
we
think
this
is
a
a
win-win.
We
also,
you
know
the
chain
link
fence.
Frankly,
you
know
needs
some
work
and
this
will
be
an
opportunity
to
make
it
a
much
nicer,
dumpster
enclosure
than
it
currently
is,
and.
B
B
Setback
and
usable
open
space.
Yes,
so
let's
go,
we
can
say
them
collectively
you
don't
have
to,
but
you
need
to
be
able
to
defend
each
one
of
these
reasonably.
The
variance
is
sought
because
of
soil
conditions,
shape
or
Topography
of
such
land
or
structure,
and
especially
affecting
such
Lander
structures,
but
not
affecting
generally
the
zoning
District
in
which
it
is
located.
Q
So
so,
really
the
the
way
that
we
meet
it
is
really.
The
same
is
how
it
was
listed
in
that
prior
decision,
the
the
rear
yard
setback
in
reduced
usable
open
space
are
necessary
because
the
the
unique
shape
of
the
lot
it's
really
two
kind
of
offset
rectangles,
which
makes
it
difficult
to
push
the
building
in
or
in
the
rear,
and
to
provide
space
for
open
space
and
things
so
and.
Q
And
on
top
of
that,
it's
it's
so
strange
shape.
It's
8
000
square
feet.
It's
not
it's
not
overly
large
to
be
able
to
develop,
and
it
we
talked
about
with
the
parking
it
has
a
grade,
it's
lower
in
the
back,
and
so
it
makes
it
difficult
to
bring
it
in
and
develop.
It
have
adequate
parking,
have
adequate
space.
B
Q
J
B
D
Q
J
B
Q
B
A
Maybe
standard
conditions
as
applicable
design
review
residents
are
not
eligible
to
participate
in
the
residence
sticker
parking
program
and
said
prohibition
is
to
be
included
in
all
rental
I'm.
Sorry,
oh
fail
and
Lease
documents,
no
rental
lease,
sublease
or
other
rental
period
of
less
than
12
months,
and
that
must
be
clearly
included
in
a
condo
and
Lease
documents
and
prior
to
the
issuance
of
an
occupancy
permit.
B
K
Q
B
Okay,
the
next
case
in
front
of
us
is
2022-10
213,
Everett,
Ave
verdant
care
of
Doug
vetset
Med
Vets
for
determination,
in
accordance
with
condition
number
one
of
the
approved
special
permits
and
variants.
Whether
proposed
changes
to
the
plan
continue
minor
or
major
changes
and
approval
of
said
changes.
The
changes
include
a
reduction
in
the
footprint
of
the
building,
a
reduction
in
the
floor
area
and
a
number
of
parking
spaces.
N
B
B
A
B
N
N
B
N
N
And
so
we
we
appreciated
that
approval
and
and
got
busy
planning
and
and
working
through
the
acquisition
of
the
properties
and
and
combining
the
the
lots.
And
in
in
in
doing
that.
We
found
that
the
timeline
for
the
acquisition
of
the
the
sliver
on
the
side-
that's
owned
by
the
city,
particularly
it
is
going
to
be
a
longer
timeline
than
we
had
anticipated.
So
the
the
clients
went
back
and
and
sort
of
recalculated.
B
N
N
N
N
N
N
So
we
have
a
a
number
of
you
know:
sort
of
brainstorming
how
to
activate
the
space
and
and
it's
an
asset
for
us.
So
you
know
the
planning
board
recommended
a
skate
park.
We're
considering.
Maybe
this
would
would
be
an
outdoor
food
court
that
we
try
to
make
three
seasons
and
we've
we've
looked
at
it,
sculpture,
garden,
a
planted
space.
B
N
N
J
N
Oh,
it
slices
all
the
way
up.
It
does
yeah
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
I
mean
cantilevering
the
building
and
taking
over
that
square
footage
again
would
is
very
attractive
from
a
financial
proposition
structurally
it
it
adds
cost,
but
we
don't
and
we'd
also
be.
You
know
we
need
to
get
we'd
need
to
get
air
rights
to
do
that.
If
the
property
didn't
transfer,
you
know
in
a
time
period,
so
it
complicates
it
in
a
way.
That's
you
know
makes
it
not
really
feasible.