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From YouTube: City Council Sub Committee of 9-27-21
Description
City of Chelsea, Discuss Proposed Charter Amendments
A
Good
evening,
everyone
tonight
we're
going
to
begin
our
subcommittee
meeting
monday
september
27th
at
6,
30
p.m,
taking
place
in
the
south
chelsea
city,
council
chambers
and
the
following
matter
will
be
discussed.
The
proposed
charter
amendments
officials
invited
to
attend
as
city
manager,
tom
ambrosino,
honorable
members
of
the
chelsea
city
council
and
all
members
of
the
public.
A
B
A
He
was
exposed
and
is
taking
precautions,
and
we
hope
that
it
will
be
tested
negative
before
us
tonight.
Everyone
is
the
copy
of
the
charter
review
committee.
This
is
a
packet
that
was
provided
to
us
by
the
subcommittee
on
chart.
I
mean
rather
the
city's
charter
committee
review
and
a
presentation
was
made
to
us
by
the
chair
of
that
committee,
which
was
our
colleague
counselor
judith
garcia.
A
We
didn't
have
anything
we
then
broke
for
summer
recess
after
the
presentation.
So
at
this
time
I
will
ask
that,
if
there's
any
questions
on
this
but
prior
to
I
will
let
you
all
know
and
let
the
public
know
the
schedule
that
we
will
be
following
on
october.
1St
will
be
the
first
reading
of
the
home
rule
petition
of
all
the
all
the
charter
review.
All
the
charter
recommendations
that
were
presented
by
the
committee
itself.
A
A
Our
staff
here
and
I'd
like
to
thank
fatima
for
preparing,
is
preparing
that
recommendation
so
be
in
the
format
of
a
home
rule
petition
and
those
are
the
dates.
So
we
will
have
the
october
first
first
reading
in
a
public
hearing
on
those
recommendations
and
any
amendments
proposed
by
any
counselors
on
october
18th
and
also
we
will
be
voting
on
any
amendments
that
night
and
then
forwarded
so
with
that
being
said.
A
E
You,
mr
president,
I
have
just
a
question
regarding
the
finding
of
all
of
our
work
that
we
did
on
a
charter
review
committee.
I
was
hoping
that
we
would
have
some
review
of
some
comments
from
our
city
solicitor
to
make
sure
what
some
of
the
recommendations
were,
make
sure
that
they
were
a
constitution
and
that
before
we
take
it
on
the
floor
or
to
the
public
that
we
have
all
of
our
boats
and
and
nails
and
in
right
order.
A
So
the
city
solicitor
was
part
of
the
committee
and
was
there
to
assist
the
committee
itself
on
all
recommendations
and
made
sure
that
the
ones
that
they
had
passed
were
in
fact
valid
and
allowable
by
state
law.
So
these
recommendations
are
in
fact
been
reviewed
and
so
forth,
approved
by
a
city
solicitor
to
the
best
of
her
knowledge
of
massachusetts,
state
law.
So,
yes,
there
were
recommendations
that
were
made
where
by
either
a
city
official
or
a
member.
E
A
A
And
you
can
do
that
during
the
night
of
the
actual
vote.
Council
robinson
again
just
spoke
about
an
amendment
that
he
had
proposed
to
the
charter
review
committee.
That
did
not
pass,
but
you
have
the
ability
to
introduce
that
order.
The
night
of
the
public
hearing
and
the
night
of
the
final
roll
call
when
we
talk
about
all
amendments
does
any
other
counselor
have
any
other
suggested
amendments
that
they
plan
on
proposing
and
would
like
to
discuss.
At
this
moment,
council
is
abbott.
D
Thank
you.
I
would
like
to
propose
that
there
be
some
sort
of
rules
established
regarding
attendance
of
city
councilors,
such
that.
If
a
city
councilor
misses
something
like
three
sessions
in
a
row
without
a
valid
excuse-
or
you
know
a
reason
for
doing
that-
that
there
be
some
sort
of
discussion
about
what
the
ramifications
of
that
would
be.
A
I
would
suggest
that
you
put
that
in
writing
prior
to
maybe
you
know.
Obviously
you
can
do
that.
That
night
suggest
that
to
our
city
solicitor,
to
see
if
there's
any
other
city
council
board
of
aldermen
or
town,
I
guess
they're
board
members
town
members
selectmen,
rather,
if
anything
is
similar
to
that
so
again,
without
knowing
the
actual
legality
of
that
I
wouldn't.
I
can't
speak
to
it,
but
I
would
suggest
you
do
that
and
then
see.
If
there's
any
ruling
that
the
city
solicitor
can
present
to
you,
anyone
else.
D
A
And
I
think
that
something
else
that
we
are
in
the
middle
of
there
is
the
only
rules
here
in
the
charter
itself
regarding
eligibility.
Is
it
disqualifies
anyone
who
has
been
convicted
of
a
state
or
federal
crime?
So
that's
the
only
disqualifier.
There
is
nothing
in
the
charter,
as
you
state
that
that
if
by
performance
again,
that
would
be
mostly
done
by
the
voters.
A
C
Just
in
following
up
in
that
connection,
I
do
believe
that
you
know
any
legislative
body
who
should
have
the
right
to
censure
one
of
its
members.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that
would
need
to
be
enumerated
in
the
charter
or
not.
That's
a
question
I
think
for
the
city
solicitor,
but
every
other
legislative
body
I
think
has
has
that
now.
Removal
is
a
different
thing.
A
I
think
that,
right
now,
our
city
charter
does
not
allow
for
the
removal
of
any
city
official,
whether
it
be
city,
council
or
school
committee
member,
and
that
if
that
mechanism
had
to
be
in
place,
it
would
be
wise
to
look
at
what
other
bodies
do,
such
as
say
the
house
of
representatives.
I
know
they
have
a
process
in
place,
but
we
don't
have
that
and
something
should
be
looked
at
if
that's
the
case,
but
I
would
encourage
my
colleague
to
investigate
that
and
see
what
other
elected
bodies
do
with
that
being
said.
A
A
A
So
right
now,
we
currently
have
a
minimum
for
getting
on
the
ballot
qualified
signatures
of
50..
We
have
a
minimum
of
if
a
council
seat
leaves
the
replacement,
who
also,
who
came
in
second
place,
basically
had
to
at
least
have
gotten
30
percent
of
the
votes
to
in
order
to
get
automatic.
Otherwise,
at
that
point,
if
there
is
no
30
on
the
second
place,
the
city
council
has
to
appoint
a
individual
that
has
happened
only
once
that
I
can
think
of
when
juan
vega
former
district
one
had
left.
A
There
was
no
one
there
and
at
the
time
they
had
appointed
bruce
mark.
I
believe
to
finish
the
term,
and
so
there
was
that
there
have
been
several
times
when
there
there's
no
candidates
for
school
committee
and
we've
appointed
it
again.
That's
the
different
section,
also
ron
mergazi
when
he
ran
for
office
and
he
moved
out
of
the
city
and
we
had
to
appoint
to
finish
the
term
and
that
was
dan
cortell.
E
Thank
you,
so
you
said
a
lot
there.
So
are
you
saying
that
if
someone
runs
as
a
right
right-hand
candidate
and
they
get
10,
they
need
to
get
at
least
10
votes
and
if
there
become
a
vacancy,
the
10
votes
would
allow
them,
because
it's
not
the
30,
I
would
assume
it
wouldn't
be
the
30,
so
you're
dropping
it
down
from
the
30
percent
threshold
to
just
10.
Now.
E
A
E
E
A
A
It
could
be
higher,
could
be
20
votes,
it
could
be
30
votes.
I
picked
10
out
of
the
year.
I
thought
that
makes
most
sense
that
anyone
who's
organized
and
is
not
just
someone
who's
writing
their
own
name
in
at
the
at
the
ballot
box,
and
it's
actually
something
where
a
group
or
an
individual
say
put
some
form
of
effort
and
need
at
least
10
people
to
vote
them
in,
and
it's
just
not
five
family
members
or
something
like
that.
E
A
Should
be
higher,
it
could
be
higher,
but
I
think
you
know
having
10
people
in
a
district
vote
for
one
individual
is
fair
in
consideration
that
to
get
on
the
ballot,
you
need
50
signatures
and
to
take
a
a
seat
that
has
been
vacated.
When
you
ran
for
office,
you
needed
at
least
30
of
the
votes
having
10
people,
you
know
write.
Your
name
in,
I
think,
is
fair.
A
A
E
My
last
point
is
that
if
someone
say,
if
you
had
the
standard
what
it
requires
to
get
you
nominated
you
if
you're
running
the
right
end,
you
would
have
to
meet
that
once
you
meet
that
you
have
actually
established
yourself
as
a
candidate,
even
if
you
have
to
still
get
appointed
by
the
city
council,
it
shows
that
you
put
some
effort
into
it.
10.
As
you
said,
you
could
just
get
family
members
to
write
it.
Didn't
they.
E
A
B
Robinson,
we
we
did
have
the
situation
that
the
person
wrote
his
name
in
for
school
committee
and
for
the
city
council,
and
it
was
for
one
vote
and
that
person
had
the
choice
of
whether
they
wanted
to
serve
on
the
school
committee
or
on
the
city.
Council
city
council
paid
more
money,
they
chose
the
city
council
and
then
we
had
to
ask
for
people
to
apply.
F
B
A
A
A
The
well
we're
saying
no
you
well
again,
you
can
do
that
my
minimum
threshold
to
win
an
election
as
a
writing
candidate
is
10
votes.
That's
what
my
suggestion
will
be
a
minimum
threshold
to
win
as
a
writing.
Candidate
is
10
votes,
the
likelihood
of
someone,
and
that
would
only
happen.
I
would,
I
guess
again
imagine
it
would
only
happen
in
a
race
where
no
one
else
is
running
right.
A
E
What
you
know
at
this
point
there's
no
one
on
there.
We
know
this
other
communities,
they
have
it.
If
you're
running
for
a
state
committee,
member
and
there's
no
name
on
the
ballot,
you
have
to
get
exactly
what
it
needs
to
nominate
you.
If
you're
running
for
warden
town
committee
member
takes
five
sicknesses
to
get
a
warden
town
committee,
you
have
to
at
least
get
five
so.
E
A
C
Sorry,
taylor,
so
so
councillor
brown
kind
of
made.
Half
of
my
point
that
I
was
going
to
make
about
you
need
50
signatures,
which
is
pretty
bare
bones.
I
think
pretty
easy
to
get
50
signatures
in
your
neighborhood.
I
think
that
should
at
least
be
the
threshold,
or
else
the
city
council
would
appoint
somebody.
I
think
I.
I
really
think
that
that
should
be
the
threshold
since,
in
order
to
even
get
on
the
ballot,
you
would
need
50..
C
The
other.
The
other
comment
I
think
that
I
have
is
that
I
think
the
school
committee-
it's
it's
been,
I
think,
clear
for
several
years
now
that
the
school
committee
there's
something
wrong
there
and
we've
had
lots
of
problems
with
with
either
you
know
getting
people
to
run
getting
people
to
serve
getting
people
to
show
up.
C
To
the
meetings
there's
been
a
lot
of
times
when
they
haven't
had
a
quorum,
and
this
has
been
a
real
problem,
so
I
think
I
think
that
not
just
the
city
council
but
other
you
know,
concerned
leaders
in
the
in
the
community.
You
know
we
should.
We
should
think
about
what
kind
of
what
kind
of
reforms
can
be
enacted
to
to
to
kind
of
solve
this
problem,
and
I
think
that
there's
probably
a
few
different
things,
ways
that
you
could
go
about
it,
but
you
know
it's.
C
G
Can
understand
what
council
is
saying
here
in
some
ways
he's
trying
to
minimize
the
appointment
by
city
councillors
of
counsellors
he's
trying
to
leave
it
to
the
people
themselves
to
elect
or
put
someone
there,
because
I've
been
I've
seen
times
where
council
elects
not
only
city
council,
but
it
elects
a
lot
of
school
committee
people
that
are
that
they
do
it
all
the
time.
So
his
minimum
is
it's
fine,
as
long
as
even
one
vote
should
be
plenty.
G
If
the
people
want
you,
because
if
somebody
doesn't,
they
could
turn
around
and
write
themselves
in
and
write
as
many
as
they
want
he's,
trying
to
at
least
make
a
minimum
where
it's
not
just
one
vote
and
that's
fair
enough.
You
know,
I
I
believe
you
save
me
50
100,
200,
300,
that's
irrelevant.
If
somebody
wants
to
run
they're
going
to
run
regardless,
no
matter
what
it
is,
doesn't
matter,
many
signatures
you
get,
it
doesn't
really
make
a
difference.
G
G
Look
look
at
that
way.
For
the
last
few
years,
I've
many
people
have
been
appointed
to
that
commit
to
the
school
committee.
You
know
this
as
far
as
I
know
the
last
time
I
seen
it
at
least
since
I've
been
here,
I've
seen
five
different
people
being
appointed
today,
so
he's
trying
to
do
the
right
thing
he's
trying
to
at
least
say:
okay,
let
the
people
decide
not
the
council
itself
because
it
like
he
brought
it
out.
G
I
remember
when
they
did
then
cartel
when
that
guy
left
the
council
that
was
there
and
then
coachell
got
appointed.
You
should
have
been
put
his
name
on
the
list
and
say
hey
here:
let
let
five
people
write
him
in
you
know,
or
three
people
or
two
people,
even
one
person
as
long
as
somebody
else,
not
us
doing
it
is
that
what
you're
trying
to
do
roy
is
eliminate
it
off
of
us
and
put.
G
G
Many
different
things
can
happen
to
that
it
could
be,
it
doesn't,
doesn't
necessarily
mean,
but
when
you
get
elected
even
with
one
vote,
that's
what
is
you
got
elected
instead
of
being
appointed
a
point
that
is
a
different
situation.
Anybody
can
be
appointed
by
especially
by
us.
Let's
say
you
get
majority
that
guy's
really
not
qualified,
and
you
say
okay.
This
is
who
I
want
and
that's
who's
going
to
get
it.
G
So
I
can't
understand
what
he's
trying
to
do.
His
point
makes
kind
of
sense
he's
not
making
a
lot
of
50
he's
doing
10..
So,
in
other
words,
he's
saying
you
don't
need
many
just
you
need
a
fuel
to
say
this
is
who
you
are
instead
of
us
appointing
it.
That
makes
more
sense
to
me
than
going
around
trying
to
collect
100
signatures
and,
if
that's
the
case
then
well,
you
would
have
to
get
50
people
or
30
people
to
vote
for
you,
you'll
get
minimum
than
50.
It
doesn't
matter
right.
G
G
G
A
Again
we
can
we
can
debate.
I
think
the
idea,
I
think
there
is
a
consensus
here
that
I
think
a
minimum
should
be
on
a
write-in.
What
that
number
will
be
debated.
We
can
talk
about
it
then,
but
between
now
and
then
have
some
thought
of
what
the
numbers
should
be.
We
know
it's
council
brown
says
the
minimum
should
be
50,
because
that's
what
we
require
as
a
candidate
to
get
on
the
ballot,
it
could
be
my
initial
10.
It
could
be
25
as
a
middle
who,
somewhere
in
between,
but
think
about
it.
A
A
A
A
A
That
was
easier
than
just
trying
to
get
it
on
that
one
day
of
tuesday.
So
with
all
that
being
said
and
not
being,
and
it
was
told
that
I
could
not
move
it
to
a
saturday
and
recognizing
that
early
voting
was
allowed
during
last
year
and
wanting
to
continue
that
I
plan
on
making
a
amendment
to
section
7.1
on
city
elections.
A
Now
we
are
about
to
do
that
right
now
we
just
passed
the
warrant,
the
election
warrant
by
the
city
clerk,
and
we
are
offering
early
in-person
voting
the
the
during
the
early
voting
period.
They
will
come
to
city
hall
and
on
the
regularly
scheduled
election
day
tuesday,
they
will
go
to
the
polls
as
we
normally
would.
A
G
A
G
G
We
are
the
final
say
they
say,
but
we
are
not
the
final
say
we
represent
the
people.
We
ask
the
parking
traffic
commission
to
do
something;
they
don't
even
have
to
bring
it
up
to
us.
They
can
reject
it
automatically
without
consulting
us.
So
we
are
not
the
final
say
they
are
the
same
with
the
final
say
on
what
they
say,
but
in
other
words
we
are
a
representative
of
the
people,
so
we
want
to
say
someone
comes
to
any
elected
official
and
says
to
them.
G
I
would
like
to
this
to
be
changed,
so
you
bring
it
down
to
the
bottom,
to
them
to
the
parking
and
traffic
commission
and
the
parking
and
traffic
commission
says
nam.
I
don't
agree
with
this.
It
never
comes
up
to
the
body
of
the
city
council
to
be
voted
on
which
we
shall
vote.
If
we
are
the
last
say
we
should
be
the
last
say
on
what
we
say.
Not
they.
They
shouldn't
tell
us,
you
can't
ask
me
this,
I
don't
think
it's
the
right
thing
for
you
to
do.
We
are
the
elected
official.
G
They
are
the
lower
body.
I've
never
seen
that's
the
same
thing
as
saying:
okay
go
to
your
boss,
you
say
to
your
boss,
sir.
I
want
to
change
this
or
your
boss
tells
you
and
you
turn
around
and
tell
your
boss,
I'm
not
doing
that.
Why
should
you
do
that?
So?
In
other
words,
if
we
are
the
final
say,
we
are
actually
their
bosses
because
we
determine
what
gets
put
in
place
and
what
doesn't
get
put
in
place.
G
If
we
don't
even
have
the
opportunity
to
say
what
we
want
and
they
doesn't
even
have
to
come
up
to
us.
So
what
is
we're
not
we're
really
not
with
nothing?
They
actually
dictate
to
us
what
we're
gonna
do,
even
though
they
say
you
have
the
final
say.
That's
the
part,
that's
the
interesting
part.
We
have
the
final
say,
but
do
we
really
have
the
final
say
we
have
the
final
say
on
what
they
say.
We
don't
have
the
final
say
on
what
we
ask
them.
G
They
do
and
I
don't
believe
they
should
be
like
that.
It
should
be
with
the
final
say:
we
can
submit
something
to
them.
Okay,
they
can
say
yes
or
no,
but
it
should
come
to
us
and
we
ourselves
should
determine
well.
I
don't
agree
with
what
you
say
and
you
strike
it
out,
but
we,
the
council,
should
have
the
opportunity
to
say
yes
or
no.
They
can't
say
they
telling
us
more
or
less.
G
I
went
to
them
and
I
asked
them
for
something
they
say
they
turn
around
and
say
I
don't
like
what
you're
proposing
and
they
don't
even
have
to
bring
it
up
to
us.
It
never
has
to
come
up
to
us
to
vote.
It
should
have
the
opportunity
for
whatever
we
present
them
to
come
up
to
us
and
let
us
vote
because
we
are
the
final
say:
if
you
don't,
we
present
something
to
you
and
you
don't
bring
it
back
up
to
me.
How
are
we
the
final
say?
G
We're
not
the
final
say
you
want
to
say
you're
saying
I
don't
like
what
you're
proposing
I'm
not
even
going
to
send
that
up
to
you
and
that's
within
that
right.
That's
within
the
right
that
charter
specifically
says
they
could
deny
anything.
We
propose
to
them
if
they
don't
wish
to
bring
it
up
to
us
and
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
change,
I'm
trying
to
change
where
we
can
say
something
to
them
and
they
can
say:
okay,
we
disagree,
but
the
final
say
is
to
us
which
you
say
we
do
have.
G
G
Watson,
you
know
the
city
solicitor.
Okay,
that's
all
it
is.
You
know,
because
by
right
right,
roy,
what
I'm
saying
is
a
simple
thing.
They
can
say
to
us,
I'm
not
listening
to
what
you
want.
We
are
elected
officials.
If
someone
comes
to
you
as
an
elected
official
and
says
mister
a
visionaire,
I
would
like
for
you
to
submit
this
to
the
parking
and
traffic
commission,
so
you
submit
it
to
the
parking
and
traffic
commission.
The
parking
and
traffic
commission
says
nah.
I
don't
like
what
you
did.
G
E
G
Simple,
we
have
the
final
say
right,
they
say
we
can,
but
they
have
to
say
on
us.
You
can
send
something
to
them
and
they
can
say
it
doesn't
even
have
to
come
up
to
the
body
to
the
city
council
we're
going
to
get
rid
of
it.
Now
they
shouldn't
be
allowed
to
do
that.
They
should
come
to
us
and
we
can
vote
on
it.
Just
like
we
do.
E
Think
you
got
some
some
points,
but
I
don't
think
they're
that
clear,
but
we
do
get
the
fire
the
following
recommendations
in
the
minutes
where
we
have
to
either
vote
to
adopt,
accept
or
hold
it.
We
want
to
hold
this
one
off
because
we
don't
like
what's
in
here.
We
have
done
that
this
council
have
done
that
many
times
many
times
we
had
said.
E
We
need
to
send
this
back
to
or
amend
this
this
agenda
from
what
they
voted
on
entirely
and
take
an
item
out
that
someone
did
not
like
and
find
out
more
information
about
why
it
wasn't
passed
or
why
it
didn't
get
consideration.
You
can
do
that.
You
can
attend
the
meeting
meetings
also,
and
you
can
voice
your
opinion
there
too,
but
I
think
you
you
got
some
stuff
but
you're,
just
not
that
clear
of
how
you're
trying
to
get
it
across.
A
G
A
A
A
G
B
Well,
it's
quite
not
clear
to
me
what
he
what
he,
what
he
is
asking.
I
mean
all
traffic
business
that
comes
before
this
council.
We
do
not
have
to
accept
it.
He's
saying
that
if
we
put
something
to
the
traffic
commission
and
they
feel
they
don't
need
to
take
it
up,
they
won't
take
it
up.
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
if
that
is
true,
because
anything
sent
to
them
has
to
be
has
to
be
put
on
here
has
to
be
put
on
the
agenda.