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From YouTube: Planning Board Meeting of 6-28-22
Description
City of Chelsea
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C
A
A
A
F
Good
evening,
everyone,
david
mindlin
representing
mr
florentino-
this
is
pedro
florentino,
the
owner
of
the
property
and
beth
mcdougall,
the
architect
of
the
new
project.
I'd
like
to
turn
over
the
presentation
to
ms
mcdougall.
At
this
point
we
had
appeared
previously.
Mr
florentino
was
not
at
the
meeting
that
ms
mcdougall
and
I
attended.
G
Good
evening,
we,
the
presentation
that
we
have
here,
is
showing,
what's
on
the
site
right
now,
the
two
low
garages
which
we've
discussed
before
and
there's
an
apartment
in
the
right-hand
side.
So
right
now
it's
between
a
three
family
which
is
on
the
left
and
then
our
property
and
then
there's
a
parking
lot
and
then
there's
another
three
family.
G
Okay,
so
what
we
did
this
was
for
our
last
meeting
that
we
didn't
go
go
through
with
so
what
we've
done
is
we
did
some
setbacks.
We
talked
about
how
you
know
it
was
too
close
to
the
side
yard
and
too
close
to
the
three
families.
Now
the
three
family
that's
on
the
left
does
have,
does
have
a
12
foot,
wide
driveway
and
then
our
property,
but
what
we
did
is
we
set.
G
G
Okay,
so
we
had
the
property
line
here
at
three
feet:
eight
on
each
side
and
if
you
and
we
kept
that,
because
if
I
make
it
any,
if
we
make
it
any
narrower,
we
can't
get
the
cars
inside
and
right
now
we
have
five
cars.
We
have
bike
storage,
we
have
trash,
we
have
a
lobby
elevator
and
stairs
go
to
the
next
one.
G
So
what
we
did
is
the
stairs
stay
the
same,
but
we
set
back
the
building
so
that
it,
the
apartments,
become
a
little
smaller
on
each
side
and
there's
sort
of
like
a
a
roof
right
here,
which
we'll
show
you
in
the
rendering.
So
we've
got
the
building
the
living
space
to
meet
the
setbacks,
so
it's
a
little
convoluted
but
the
first
floor
and
the
stairs
have
to
remain
the
same
so
that
we
can
get
the
cars
on
the
first
floor.
So
no
one
lives.
On
the
first
floor,
it's
only
for
parking.
G
G
G
G
So
can
you
can
you
zoom
out
a
little
bit,
but
you
can
see
here
so
the
living
space
is
set
back.
The
first
floor
is
the
same.
We
have
one
exit
door
for
the
stairwell.
This
is
the
stairwell.
The
other
side
is
the
same.
The
stairwell
is
back
here.
Each
unit
has
its
own
private
outdoor
areas
which
meet
our
requirements.
G
The
top
floor
has
this
deck
here
which
meets
the
requirements
and
that's
how
we
tried
to
address
the
issue
with
regards.
To
being
you
know,
the
windows
and
everything
looking
to
the
next
to
the
next
unit
and
keep
in
mind
again,
there's
12
feet
here
and
then
on
this
side.
There's
a
big
parking
lot
before
the
next
building.
G
G
We
have,
we
still
have
eight
parking
spaces.
Five
inside
and
three
on
the
outside.
We
talked
about
maybe
not
having
those
extra
three
which
we
don't
have.
I
mean
we're
trying
to
give
as
much
as
possible,
but
we
don't
have
to
I
mean
we
could
take
away
the
three
in
the
back
and
we
could
landscape
it
or
something
and
still
have
you
know
five
inside
we're
open
to
options.
G
G
G
H
G
Okay,
so
what
happens?
Is
this
stays
the
same?
That's
the
first
floor
right,
you
go
the
next
floor
and
if
this
is
the
parking
garage,
see
the
dotted
lines
right
here,
so
this
is
the
garage
here
comes
across
and
then
what
happens
is
the
living
space
is
set
back
to
get
it
away
from
the
neighbors
and
set
back
on
this
side?
That's
where
the
driveway
is
and
the
three
family
we've
set
it
back
so
that
we
have
the
appropriate
distance
here
away
from
the
the
side,
yard,
setback,
okay,.
H
I
G
Okay,
so
if
you
look
at
this,
we
would
have
this
is
this
is
about
nine
feet
and
we
have
ten.
So
our
first
floor
is
gonna.
You
know
come
like
right
here,
then
our
windows
or
our
windows
are
about
at
their
sill,
so
our
windows
are
sort
of
in
between
no
one
looks
on
each
other.
At
all
I
mean
I
didn't.
I
didn't
do
a
drawing
showing
them
them
with
us,
but
our
windows
are
in
between.
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B
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I
I
So
there
is
no
there's,
no
budding
property
next
to
51
library,
there's
a
there's,
a
parking
lot
which
tony
rents
to
people
in
the
neighborhood
which
will
not
this
building
would
not
affect
that
and
then
the
only
other
butters
are
the
folks
on
the
left.
I
have
not
spoken
with,
but
I
don't.
They
obviously
have
no
objections.
Otherwise
they'd
probably
be
here
today.
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D
G
David
asked
about
the
roll-up
doors,
there's
a
roll-up
door
in
the
front,
there's
a
roll-up
door
in
the
back
for
winter.
They
don't
have
to
always
keep
it
closed
in
the
summer,
but
in
the
winter
we
it's
going
to
get
kind
of
chilly
in
there.
Even
though
we
would
have
some
kind
of
heat
but
we'd
like
to
keep
it
as
warm
as
possible.
B
I
did
want
to
raise
one
more
thing
for
discussion,
which
is
the
department
comments
that
you
know
this.
This
proposal
proposes
far
greater
density
and
more
units
than
would
typically
be
allowed
in
this
area
and
that
the
city
is
going
through
the
process
of
redoing
zoning
requirements
and
even
under
the
the
city
manager's
proposed
zoning
amendments.
F
The
rezoning
doesn't
address
what
could
be
built
on
this
lot
and
in
effect,
the
only
thing
that
could
be
built
here
would
be
a
single
family
which
would
not
fit
within
the
tenor
of
that
street
and
that
neighborhood
and
also
mr
florentino
would
need
variances
even
to
build
a
single
family
there.
So
he's
trying
to
maximize
the
the
use
of
the
lot
and,
at
the
same
time,
fit
within
the
tenor
of
the
community,
which
is
almost
all
multi-families.
F
I
know
there's
an
apartment,
building
up
the
street
which
really
doesn't
fit
with
this.
But
if
you
look,
there
are
a
lot
of
very,
very
nicely
maintained
three
three
and
a
half
story
buildings
along
the
street
and
to
not
allow
him
to
fully
develop
this
lot
in
effect,
penalizes
him.
So
he's
really
trying
very
hard
to
improve
the
neighborhood
and
still
put
up
something,
that's
feasible
and
really
benefits
everybody.
B
Yeah,
my
concern
is
that
you
know
for
something:
that's
that's.
This
dense
building,
essentially
luxury
condos,
might
not
be
the
sort
of
benefit
that
chelsea
needs.
I
mean,
I
know
that
you're
not
required
to
include
affordable
units
in
this,
but
I
think
that
would
actually
be
a
benefit
to
the
community.
E
I
I
So
when
we
look
at
the
units
that
we
that
I'm
looking
to
build,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
maximize
it
so
that
families
can
grow
with
the
city
and
not
move
away,
and
that's
very
important,
because
if
you
have
one
and
two
bedroom
units,
young
single
families
are
then
going
to
move
out
once
they
start
growing.
So
I'd
like
to
see,
families
really
grow
with
the
city
and
that's
why
we're
considering
units
that
are
as
a
reasonable
size
that
can
grow
with
the
family.
A
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G
Go
back,
can
you
go
back
yeah
nope
the
site
plan
there,
john
okay,
on
the
site
plan.
This
is
the
first
floor.
Okay,
the
first
floor
has
five
three
point.
I
think
it's
3.6
and
3.7.
That's
the
garage
floor
only
so
this
three
family
right
here
is
about
12
feet.
This
way,
so
you've
got
what
15
almost
16
feet
between
here
and
here,
not
the
bay
window,
but
about
16
feet
from
building
to
building
okay,
but
that's
just
the
first
floor
and
then
what
we
did.
If
you
go
to
the
second
floor,
this
one.
G
E
G
O
O
E
For
the
for
the
board,
I
spoke
with
the
building
inspector
this
morning
mike
mcintyre
this
morning,
and
I
asked
if
there
had
been
any
attempt
to
address
the
building
codes
or
the
zoning
codes.
He
reported
to
me
that
he
had
none.
No,
no
billing
permits
were
issued
to
address
the
code
issues
and
nothing
has
been
done
relative
to
the
uses
there
that
are
off
combined
without
an
occupancy
permit.
O
O
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A
P
This
most
of
these
matters
are
currently
with
the
city
solicitor's
office
and
we
are
engaged
in
litigation
with
this
or
potential
litigation
with
this
owner.
As
far
as
I
know
as
of
today,
these
are
unresolved
at
the
moment.
It
is
the
city's
position,
my
administration's
position,
that
no
zoning
relief
should
be
granted
to
the
owner
of
this
building,
while
these
outstanding
issues
remain
unresolved,
and
so
that
is
opposition.
P
Q
Q
I
have
from
328.08
unsafe
building
violation
from
chelsea
isd
masonry
work
along
the
building.
The
gentleman
did
not
maintain
properly
his
building,
it's
a
brick
building.
You
have,
and
these
sort
of
buildings
have
to
be
repointed
at
times,
and
it
just
left
this
building
in
disrepair,
causing
pieces
of
the
building
actually
fall
on
broadway
and
cause
possible
injury.
There
was
that
sort
of
and-
and
he
was
already
an
owner
well
before
this
started
to
happen.
So
these
sort
of
things
happened
on.
Q
He
has
the
metal
grate
sidewalk
in
this
repair.
Why?
Because
vehicles
were
constantly
driving
over
this
and
caused
druts
again
dangerous
situation?
He
had
storage,
illegal
storage,
time
and
time
again
illegally,
renting
the
upstairs
to
anyone
who
was
willing
to
pay
without
an
occupancy
permit
had
combustible
materials
in
there
continuously
getting
violations
from
our
fire
department.
Q
I
had
again
time
and
time
again
occupancy
permits
or
non
non-registered
use.
In
the
back.
On
the
first
floor,
he
had
issues
with
a
church
going
on
there,
a
church
that
did
not
pull
a
permit
did
not
have
trash
removal.
They
would
illegally
dump
their
trash
on
broadway
in
the
middle
of
the
night.
We
all
knew
where
it
was
coming
from.
This
is
the
type
of
gentleman
that
he
thought
was
being
a
good
neighbor.
Q
Q
So
you
know
as
a
neighbor
as
a
business
owner,
you
have
to
wonder
you
know
when
you
have
these
sort
of
owners
who
are
flagrant
in
the
disregard
for
property
life,
the
safety
of
others.
You
have
to
ask:
why
should
any
sort
of
concession
be
allowed
to
this
gentleman?
I
thought
it
was.
Our
last
rope
was
to
him
to
provide
him
an
approval
years
ago
to
have
him
allow
15
apartments
above
and
they
gave
him
the
permit
back
then
in
the
hopes
that
it
would
revitalize
and
he
would
bring
back
and
it
went
nowhere.
Why?
Q
Because
I
don't
know
if
the
man
has
the
financial
aptitude
or
the
financial
ability
to
do
it,
but
this
board
already
gave
him
a
shot,
and
so
I
don't
understand
why
we
wouldn't
even
consider
this
at
all.
Until
this
gentleman
the
owner
comes
back
and
is
a
good
citizen
to
the
residents
respectfully,
I
understand.
What's
going
on,
you
have
an
applicant
looking
again,
I
would
follow
what
the
city
manager
said.
Q
There
are
other
buildings
and
that
you
can
go
to
that,
would
are
open
and
he
can
get
a
permit
without
this
laundry
list
of
violations
going
on.
So
I
hope
the
board
will
view
this,
not
so
much
as
the
applicant,
but
to
who
the
the
rent
is
going
to.
We
should
not
allow
anyone
to
get
a
benefit
after
being
such
a
bad
owner
in
this
community.
Thank
you.
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R
The
brick
portion
of
the
building
is
actually
the
existing
single-story
commercial
building
currently
occupied
as
a
real
estate
office
and
we're
adding
a
second
story
with
the
intention
that
the
proportion
of
the
second
story
edition
and
the
roof
line
is
appropriate,
proportionally
appropriate
as
a
two-story
building
in
that
corner
site.
The
other
view
here
in
the
lower
left-hand
corner
is
a
view
of
the
building
taken
from
the
corner
of
washington
and
kerry.
R
The
idea
is
that
we
wanted
to
introduce
a
corner
defining
building
that
is
proportional
to
the
corner
and
that
it
is
it
beautifies
that
particular
intersection
and
to
that
effect
I
even
introduced
corbels
decorative
corbels,
as
well
as
belt
coursing,
which
is
very
traditional,
I'm
not
a
I'm,
not
a
traditional
architect,
nor
am
I
a
class
assistant
or
a
modernist.
I'm
just
really
into
designing
very
beautiful
urban
fabric.
R
Aisles
are
actually
shared
between
the
two
parking
spaces,
and
so
we
paint
we're
depicting
a
scenario
where,
in
the
future,
if
the
abutter
chooses
to
put
up
a
fence,
what
would
be
that
scenario
in
which
you
know
how
many
parking
spaces
would
she
have
with
reasonable
backup,
bile
of
24
feet,
and
so
we're
depicting
right
now,
two
parking
spaces
along
on
this
side.
This
would
be
an
entry
in
and
there
will
be
a
compact
parking
space
and
two
there's
a
parking
space
right
off
of
kerry
and
an
existing
parking
space,
also
off
of
kerry.
R
She
currently
has
an
existing
garage
as
part
of
that
building
we'll
be
maintaining
that
not
to
lose
the
parking
count,
but
this
this
is
a
scenario
in
which,
again,
the
the
shared
easement
of
backup
spaces
would
be
eliminated
by
the
above,
putting
up
a
fence.
If
you
go
to
the
next
page,
we
also
painted
in
a
an
alternate
scenario
where
we
would
enter
from
kerry,
primarily
from
kerry,
and
these
two
parking
spaces
would
actually
enter
from
washington.
R
We
also
thought
about
creating
features
such
as
belt
coursing
that
would
align
with
with
the
headers
of
the
window
to
kind
of
break
it
up,
so
that
when
you
see
this
building,
you
read
it
as
a
holistic
building,
as
opposed
to
someone
just
tacked
on
a
a
cheap
building
on
top.
So
but
of
course,
we're
using
very
efficient
means
to
achieve
that.
R
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide-
and
this
is
a
view
from
kerry
looking
at
the
back
and
the
parking
space
and
the
intention
of
showing
this
is
to
basically
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
the
neighbor
had
about.
Well,
we
don't
want
to
have
a
roof
tag,
open
and
people
able
to
see
people
partying
on
on
the
roof
deck
again.
These
are
relatively
small
professional
size.
What
in
boston
are
called
micro
units,
but
but
in
chelsea
we're
calling
them
one
bedroom
units
so
we're
we
are.
We
are
not
seeing
you.
S
R
R
R
Again,
one
of
the
other
concerns
that
the
board
had
was
about
the
single
means
of
egress,
and
I
have
confirmed
with
the
building
commissioner
mike
mcateer,
and
I
have
confirmed
with
the
ninth
edition
of
the
massachusetts
building
code,
the
allowance
for
residential
building
of
this
type
to
have
single
means
of
egress,
and
so
we're
going
to
use
the
existing
stair.
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
please.
R
R
And
again
we're
showing
two-bedroom
units
and
three
one-bedroom
units,
so
total
of
of
basically
five
five
beds
and
each
each
floor
will
not
exceed
let's
say:
10
people
we're
we're,
estimating
eight
people
for
each
level,
both
the
residential
and
the
retail.
So
the
code
does
allow
for
single
means
of
egress.
R
K
R
T
T
I'm
sure
I
don't
know
if
you
know,
but
I
grew
up
on
bloomingdale
street
and
I've
always
remember
seeing
three
funeral
homes,
and
I
really
do
believe
to
this
day.
I
still
have
people
walking
in
and
I'm
not
saying,
that's
the
reason,
but
when
david
and
I
spoke
after
the
last
after
meeting
with
the
commission,
the
historical
committee
and
the
you
know
just
having
that
meeting
and
I
came
back
and
and
was
able
to
put
this
building
together,
it's
beautiful.
T
R
The
parking
space
reduction
is
entirely
based
on
a
hypothetical
scenario
of
the
abutter
choosing
to
put
up
a
fence,
which
would
then
mean
that
they
would
also
lose
their
easement
of
backing
up
into
madeleine's
space.
So
we
are
only
painting
that
scenario
to
show
a
good
faith
gesture
that
we
want
to
conform
to
the
to
the
needs
of
the
neighbors.
R
F
So
if
I
could
just
address
the
parking
briefly
for
many
years,
madeleine's
building
and
the
abutter,
which
is
tor
funeral
home,
have
shared
that
parking
lot,
even
though
there's
clearly
well,
we
don't
need
to
see
the
slide,
but
clearly
a
property
line
that
runs
through
the
parking
lot
and
if
there
was
a
funeral
or
turf
madeleine,
never
objected
to
them
parking
on
her
side
of
the
lot
right
now
there
are
what
about
12
spaces
that
you
could
use
if
you
were
able
to
back
up.
I
think
that.
F
Headed
head
in
spaces
at
the
back
of
the
building,
and
we
were
hoping
to
work
out
some
sort
of
formalized
mutual
easement,
because
all
madeleine
really
needs
in
order
to
have
12
spaces.
Is
that
room
to
back
up,
but
the
folks
in
the
abutting
property
while
they
haven't
strictly
said?
No,
you
can't
do
that
anymore.
They
don't
want
to
formalize
an
easement
at
that
point
at
this
point,
so
we're
just
trying
to
work
out
a
respectful
alternative
plan
and,
at
the
same
time,
while
we
need
a
special
permit
for
parking
relief.
F
F
T
T
F
T
I
also
added
which
I
thought
was
there's
now
a
changing
fence
that
that's
how
I
bought
the
building
and
I
would
replace
it
with
sorry.
I
would
replace
it
with
wrought
iron
and
add
the
flower
baskets,
just
to
kind
of
hide.
The
sort
of
like
all
you
you're
going
to
focus
on
is
the
wrought
iron
and
focus
on
the
landscaping
and
the
cute
flowers
and
making
it
look
pretty
this
tree
here.
Oh
sorry,
this
tree
here
there
used
to
be
a
tree
there.
The
city
filled
it
with
blacktop
the
the
pit.
J
T
And
the
reason
why
that
sign
is
red
is
because
I
was
hoping
that
the
red
would
indicate
that
it's
no
longer
a
funeral,
because
people
still
go
there,
which
I
understand
it
was
a
funeral
home
for
years.
So
I
was
hoping
it's
worked.
Sometimes
sometimes
it
doesn't,
but
I
make
sure
that
it's
in
good
condition.
K
T
T
D
T
T
F
Closings
sometimes
take
place
in
the
office,
there's
still
meetings
with
clients
that
take
place
in
the
office.
It's
not
a
high
traffic
area,
but
it's
still
very
useful
to
use
as
an
office.
There
are
two
others
well
one
one
business
now
and
one
vacant
space
in
the
building,
small
small
businesses.
But
again
we
go
back
to
the
whole
idea
of
the
br2,
which
is
ground
floor,
retail
and
upstairs
residential
and
it's
just
a
perfect
fit
in
the
area.
Why
convert
it
to
residential?
Really
when
it's
still
very
useful
as
a
as
a
small
professional
office?
A
A
A
E
F
F
A
T
A
E
A
S
S
At
the
last
meeting
we
had
a
really
good
discussion
about
the
collaboration
between
burden
and
the
school
system.
I
enjoyed
all
the
questions.
They
helped
us
sort
of
think
about
what
the
community
is
looking
for.
So
we
had
a
follow-up
meeting
with
the
superintendent
and
the
incoming
principal
principal
obed,
as
he
was
introduced
to
myself
so.
S
And
and
that's
fine,
this
part's,
not
in
the
in
the
presentation,
so
what
we
have
we-
and
this
is
an
ongoing
discussion.
We
have
decided,
as
a
group
we're
going
to
continue
this
discussion
with
anybody
who
wants
to
talk
about
it
as
part
of
the
school
board.
But
where
we
are
at
this
exact
moment
is
the
following.
S
First
of
all,
we
are
absolutely
going
to
provide
what
I'm
calling
the
chelsea
science
room.
It
will
be
something
better
than
that.
I
promise
you,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
space
on
the
first
floor
and
this
is
going
to
be
specifically
dedicated
to
the
chelsea
schools.
At
any
level,
I
think
high
school
will
probably
use
it
the
most
for
a
variety
of
reasons:
the
the
age
level,
the
proximity
to
the
high
school.
That's
going
to
be
something
that
that
we
will
do
it's.
I
don't
know
the
exact
size
or
anything
like
that.
S
We're
still
working
some
of
those
things
out,
but
it
will
include
everything
that
a
lab
would
need
to
do
hands-on.
Science
learning
so
we're
talking
about
microscopes,
we're
talking
about
lab
benches,
we're
talking
about
things
like
that
and,
of
course
this
is
all
going
to
be
brand
new,
just
like
the
rest
of
the
building.
So
that's
something
we
are
definitely
going
to
do.
S
But
you
know
to
be
able
to
you
know,
instead
of
looking
in
a
book
and
saying:
oh
there's
a
microscope
or
here's
a
cell
culture
or
here's
this
or
that
like
go
across
the
street
and
actually
do
these
things
right
and
so
again
there's
a
lot
of
scheduling
to
work
out
with
teachers
and
stuff.
But
I
want
to
be
as
involved
as
possible
right.
I
don't
want
anybody
on
this
board
to
think
that
I'm
just
proposing
this
and
I'm
going
to
run
away
and
tell
them
to
figure
it
out.
S
There's
there
seems
to
be
a
challenge
for
both
the
superintendent
and
the
principal
to
sort
of
hire
science
teachers.
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
in
our
meeting
was
we
really
were
looking
for
science,
teachers
right,
and
so
I
I
threw
a
question
out
there.
I
wasn't
even
sure
if
it
was
a
reasonable
question,
but
I
thought
hey
the
worst
thing
that
could
happen.
Is
they
say?
No,
so
I
asked
the
superintendent
in
the
principle.
S
So
with
with
our
group
and
again
I
don't
know
the
details
of
this-
I
don't
know
exactly
how
it's
going
to
work,
but
I
thought
if
a
teacher
is
going
to
be
spending
extra
time
outside
of
their
classroom
in
the
school
when
they're
going
to
be
coming
across
the
street,
there
has
to
be
a
way
to
to
make
that
more
beneficial
for
them.
So
that's
those
are
the
things
that
we
are
absolutely
going
to
do
in
collaboration
with
the
school
board.
There
are
going
to
be
other
things.
S
That
might
make
sense,
so
there
probably
will
be
some
additional
possibilities,
but
those
are
the
things
that
we
definitely
want
to
to
offer
to
this
community
in.
In
correlation
with
this
building,
the
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
address
really
quickly
before
I
let
the
rest
of
the
team
tell
you
about
the
the
cool
stuff
is
a
few
different
people
have
brought
to
my
attention
there
there's
some
question
about:
maybe
the
science
that's
going
to
be
done
in
the
building
that
pertains
to
biosafety
level.
Bsl.
S
I
put
that
in
the
the
write-up
that
we
sent
over
to
to
the
board,
but
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
address
this
is
going
to
be
a
building
that
is
going
to
be.
We
want
it
to
be
available
to
the
majority
of
scientific
biotech
companies,
and
so
it's
not
going
to
be
any
high-level
science.
That's
going
on
there,
it's
not
going
to
be
like
a
bsl3
or
bsl4.
Those
are
the
more
specific,
more
infectious
type
of
science
that
you
might
hear
about.
S
Those
buildings
are
very
specific
and-
and
you
don't
have
a
lot
of
those
around
the
country
for
that
matter,
so
this
is
going
to
be
more
of
like
a
biosafety
level,
one
and
two,
where
you're
just
going
to
be
the
normal
lab
that
you
would
see
people
in
goggles
and
face
masks,
obviously
now
gloves
and
lab
coats
that
type
of
research,
but
nothing
infectious,
nothing
that's
going
to
cause
any
disease
in
human
beings.
Nothing
like
that.
S
It's
all
studying
microbes
cell
culture,
bacteria
things
like
that
to
understand
how
they
work
and
most
of
these
companies
are
going
to
be
looking
for
treatments
and
so
they're
going
to
be
working
with
models
of
disease
and
it's
all
going
to
be
very
low
in
terms
of
risk
to
human
health.
So
I
just
wanted
to
address
those
couple
things
real,
quick,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
matt
juros.
So
he
can
address
a
lot
of
the
the
questions
and
and
the
good
discussion
that
we
had
about
the
building
itself.
M
You
know
we
looked
at
street
trees
and
plantings
and
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
development
to
be
to
be
done
there
on
the
pedestrian
experience
and
and
how
that
interfaces
with
this
new
building
and
and
so
forth
in
this
area.
There's
another
area
and
building
footprint
and
size
are
also
issues
that
that
really
need
to
be
examined
more
closely.
M
You
know,
building
at
any
scale
is
itself
an
act
of
hubris.
I
think
it's
easy
to
to
imagine
that
there's
developers
that
are
driven
by
profits
and
they
propose
ever
larger
buildings,
and
there
are
people
that
operate
that
way.
But
my
experience
with
putting
together
buildings
and
proposals
is
that
they're
usually
assembled
using
a
very
careful
balance
of
risk
mitigation,
construction,
cost
market
conditions
and
all
we've
seen
through
the
lens
of
site,
site
conditions
and
regulatory
constraints,
so
that
you
have
to
find
a
balance
for
how
all
of
this
works.
M
The
shape
of
this
building
was
determined
by
a
simple
linear
fashion.
You
know
we
had
hoped
initially
to
put
the
parking
below
grade
so
that
we
could
have
the
benefit
of
of
above
great.
You
know
of
leaseable
space
above
grade
and
soil
conditions,
and
groundwater
prevented
us
from
doing
that,
so
the
the
building
gets
taller.
The
parking
goes
up.
M
The
other
issue
that
we
really
were
not
able
to
to
you
know
we
didn't
don't
have
a
lot
of
options
about
how
we
handle
it
is
how
parking
happens
at
all
the
site.
Size
in
geometry
is
such
that
to
be
able
to
get
a
parking
deck.
You
know
times
one
or
times
three
or
five
in
there
with
the
proper
grade
for
vertical
circulation
and
the
circulation
horizontally
requires
us
to
push
out
to
the
edges.
M
You
know
in
a
way
sort
of
came
with
constraints
and,
and
we've
arrived
at
those
solutions
through
that
process,
what
we
can
address
and
so
john
I
I
I'm
gonna
sort
of
go
through
the
the
presentation.
I
think
we'll
go
back
and
forth
a
little
bit.
I
kind
of
at
the
last
minute
change
the
order
of
the
issues
that
I'm
addressing,
and
so,
if
we
go
to,
I
think
in
about
the
middle
of
the
order.
Page
2033.
M
Yeah,
so
I
did
and
yeah
so
I've
shortened
this
one
up.
So
if
we
go
back
a
couple
we'll
get
to
the
start,
okay,
so
the
the
well.
What
we
can
control
is
the
experience
on
the
street
front
and
and
how
the
building
addresses
the
street
on
everett
have
that's,
certainly
within
our
purview
and
in
sort
of
beyond
the
constraints
that
that
are
are
more
empirical.
M
There's
a
zero
lot
line,
condition
there,
and
so
we
took
a
look
at
that
and
and
took
a
look
at
the
experience
of
pedestrians
walking
by
and
people
walking
into
the
building
and
decided
to
push
the
the
building
front
wall
street
wall
on
the
ground
level
back
10
feet
and
that
that's
that
level
you
see
where
it
says:
10
foot
setback
walk
over
and
point
thanks:
rick,
that's
right,
yeah!
So
there
there's
the
10
foot
setback
part
and
we
actually
have
in
you
know
more
than
16
than
10
feet.
M
M
K
M
We
also,
I
think,
if
we
back
up
one
slide,
have
a
sorry
advanced
two
slides
have
a
terrace
above
the
parking-
that's
along
here
right
here
and
there,
and
we
proposed
a
series
of
continuous
planters
there.
That
would
be
irrigated
and
we'd
have
a
mix
of
a
boxwood
and
bamboo,
and
these
are
shrubs
that
would
grow
vertical
okay
and
would
create
a
green
space
there
not
open
to
the
public,
but
again
because
we're
taking
the
entire
site.
M
Not
everything
can
be
done
simply
for
the
sake
of
wanting
it
to
be
done.
Everything
has
a
consequence
for
us,
but
we're
sincere
about
taking
the
input
from
the
board
and
being
able
to
make
a
better
building.
I
honestly
think
that
the
the
entry
sequence
on
edward
avenue
is
a
better
entry
sequence
than
we
would
have
had
if
we
didn't
have
the
type
of
input
that
that
we
had
last
month,
I'd
like
to
think
we're
good
enough
architects
who
have
gotten
there
eventually,
but
this
jump
starts
the
process
and
we're
happy
for
it.
D
D
The
the
tables
because
of
the
winters
and
things
in
in
new
england
so
have
you
guys
thought
about
putting
like
a
japanese
garden
in
or
a
or
a
pool
something
that
would
still
give
the
greens
because
people
walk
by
the
fbi
building
another
building
that
I
love.
It's
not
exactly
how
welcoming
and
they
have
a
lot
of
landscaping
and
it's
it's
got
a
fence.
Let's
face
it,
it's
the
fbi.
Building,
nobody
wants
to
go,
buy
it
right
so,
and
the
high
school
is
you
know
is
so
it
would
be
nice
to
people.
D
D
M
M
M
You
know,
as
as
I
look
at
this
critically
and
think
about
it.
What
I
actually
think
is
going
to
be
a
better.
You
know.
Next
iteration
is
more
permanent
park,
bench
type
of
maybe
stone,
installed,
tables
and
chairs,
and
you
know
I
mean
in
I
see
in
harvard
square
that
people
use
exterior
spaces.
You
know
12
months
of.
K
C
K
D
S
D
D
A
D
A
A
J
J
S
S
Quite
often,
we
are
actually
raising
money
from
a
few
different
sources,
so
we
have
we
we
actually
they
have
not
been
to
this
meeting,
because
I
didn't
think
that
it
was
necessary
up
until
this
point,
but
we
have
a
whole
team
of
basically
a
finance
team
as
part
of
our
company
they're
called
valencia
capital,
and
we
already
have
institutional
financing
that
will
cover
70
of
the
of
the
cost
of
this
building.
The
remainder
30
will
be
raised
either
privately
through.
S
So
I
have
I've
been
doing
development
for
almost
nine
years
now,
so
I
have
a
network
of
just
individuals
who
are
either
in
real
estate
or
in
other
businesses
who
have
who
have
capital,
who
have
actually
funded
the
vast
majority
of
this
project.
Up
until
now,
I
mean
everything
that
we've
shown
you
here,
obviously
there's
a
cost
to
it
right
so
between
private
financing
and
then
institutional
financing.
We
we
have
commitments
to
build
the
the
building.
We
know
what
the
cost
of
this
building
will
be.
S
I
think
I
mentioned
it
last
time,
but
it's
about
if
as
approved,
would
be
about
267
million
dollars.
We
have
commitments
for
that
already,
but
nobody
will
write
us
a
check
until
the
city
of
chelsea
says:
here's
what's
approved
right.
We
can't
get
an
actual
commitment
letter.
We
can
get
commitments
of
hey,
we'll,
give
you
the
x
number
of
dollars
based
on
getting
11
stories
and
400
000
square
feet
right,
but
that
gives
them
an
out.
If
you
say
oh,
we
only
want
eight
stories
or
nine
stories
right.
S
S
We've
been
out,
we've
been
working
on
financing
over
over
a
year.
I've
been
looking
at
this
project
for
over
a
year.
You've
seen
it
for
a
few
months,
but
we've
had
numerous
meetings
with
city
officials
and
even
before
I
brought
it
to
the
city
like.
I
would
never
bring
a
building
like
this
to
any
town
right,
because
I'm
I'm
investing
a
substantial
amount
of
money
with
the
hopes
that
you're
gonna
approve
this
right.
If
you
said
no,
I
just
spent
a
lot
of
money
for
nothing,
so
I
would
never
propose
a
building.
S
That's
going
to
cost
this
much
upfront
capital
before
I
knew
that
we
could
raise
it.
So
the
first
thing
I
did
when
I
started
talking
to
the
real
estate
agents,
who
said
that
there
was
an
interest
in
the
furano
family
selling.
This
building
was,
I
started
saying
would
would
our
financial
group
cover
this?
Would
they
finance
this
and
absolutely
so.
S
C
S
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think
I
part
of
that,
is
I
mean
you
can
see
the
team
we've
already
brought
to
the
table
right.
I
can't
draw
this
building
right.
I
I'm
I
can
my
role
in
our
company
is
identifying
properties
and
financing
them
right.
Then
we
hire
people
like
fishbrook
people
like
salvo
engineering,
various
other
people
to
do
their
parts
right.
Last
time,
when
I
was
here,
we
talked
about
the
construction
company
that
we
are
partnering
with
dpr.
They
are
well
versed
in
in
building
these
buildings.
I'm
not
going
to
be
the
one.
S
You
know,
they're
screwing
things
in
hammering
things,
so
it's
a
partnership
right
and
so
yes,
I
have
not
built
anything
like
this,
but
we
already
have
the
team
in
place
and
again
I
would
not
have
proposed
this
building.
If
I
didn't
have
a
team
in
place
there,
there
was
a
slide
on
the
the
previous
presentation
that
shows
the
entire
team
that
we
would
bring
to
the
table
here
right.
So
but
it's
a
fair
question:
if
I
came
up
here
and
said
I'll,
take
care
of
everything,
then
you
should
say
no
way.
S
J
J
E
J
S
No
again,
I
I
I
think,
every
every
comment,
every
concern
every
question
that's
been
raised
has
been
fair
and
I
mean
that's
at
some
point.
You
know
we've
been
here
we're
we're
proposing
to
build
something
that
is
a
huge
investment
in
chelsea
right
we're
going
to
be
here
for
a
while
we're
we
have,
and
again
I
will
tell
you.
We
have
other
lots
across
the
street
that
we
are.
S
You
know
all
I
can
say
to
you:
is
we're
not
going
to
go
against
our
word?
I
mean
I've
everything
you've
asked
us
to
do.
We've
done,
we've
met
with
the
school
system,
I'm
I'm
offering
to
continue
to
do
that.
You're
right.
You
can't
force
me
to
do
that,
but
other
than
saying
we're
going
to
take
care
of
it,
and-
and
I
mean
you
can
ask
john-
you
can
ask
other
city
councilors.
S
You
can
ask
other
people
in
the
zoning
and
planning
department
how
long
I've
been
working
on
this
project
and
how
many
meetings
we
took
matt's
been
there
as
well.
We've
been
there
and,
I
think,
are
our.
We
are
genuine.
I
mean
we're.
We
are
a
different
type
of
developer,
I'm
not
just
a
developer.
I
come
from
a
different
background
right
and
so
other
than
my
I
I
I
can
give
you
my
word.
S
You
can
believe
me
or
not,
but
we're
proposing
it
we're
offering
it
and
if
we
do-
and
you
guys
approve
this
building,
as
is
we
will
follow
up
with
that.
I
think
it
would
be
fascinating
to
to
bring
the
students
over
and
teach
them
some
of
these
things.
I
I
do,
but
again
that's
a
fair.
It's
a
fair
comment.
I
can't
give
you
I
mean
I
can
sign
something
and
you
guys
can
recognize
it,
but
it's
the
best.
I
can
do
at
this
moment.
M
As
part
of
the
process
that
we're
engaged
in
here,
there's
not
a
mechanism
to
tie
that
type
of
agreement
to
the
approval,
but
there's
other
ways
that
that
agreement
like
that
could
be
part
of
you
know
the
the
permissions
and-
and
I
think
there's
a
I
mean
if
there's
a
mechanism
that
that
would
would
solidify
that
you
know
to
the
word
that
that
you
have.
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
a
good
conversation.
L
S
Are
you
good
one
of
the
when
we've
had
these
meetings
with
and
when
I
say
we
there's
been
a
variety
of
people
there,
but
when
we've
had
the
meetings
with
the
superintendent,
you
know
I
go
into
these
meetings
with
an
open
mind,
we're
looking
for
for
ideas.
The
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up,
which
matt
reminded
me,
is
and
again
this
it
isn't
always
about
money.
But
you
know
this
building
is
triggering
a
substantial
fee.
That's
going
to
go
to
the
community
development
fund
right
and
I
don't
know
how
that's
used.
S
I
have
no
idea
how
the
city
uses
that
that's
not
for
me
to
determine,
but
if
I
could,
I
would
like
to
say:
can
some
of
this
go
to
the
science
department?
Can
we?
I
don't
know
if
I'm
allowed
to
make
those
recommendations,
but
I
do
know
that
there's
also
a
substantial
investment
on
top
of
everything
that
we're
doing
here,
that's
going
to
go
directly
to
the
community
development
trust.
So
I
wanted
to.
S
You
know
mention
that
as
well
as
you
know,
another
commitment
that
has
to
be
made
here
and
that
is
triggered
by
the
variances-
that
we're
asking
for
so
for
us
to
to
just
come
in
here
and
say
we
want
to
build
this
huge
building.
That's
not
the
reason
again.
I
truly
say
we've
thought
this
building
through
and
if
I
was,
if
we
were
just
trying
to
build
11
stories
and
I
get
an
email
from
john
du
preece
and
says
you're
going
to
owe
six
million
dollars
to
the
community
fund.
S
I
would
say:
let's
bring
this
down
to
eight
stories
right,
because
that's
not
a
cost
that
was
was
planned
for
so
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
if
you
really
look
at
the
thought
process
through
this
entire
building
and
proposal
process,
we
are
not
just
putting
something
together
here.
This
is
a
team
effort
and
we
we
think
this
is
a
great
location
for
it
too.
It's
not
just
like.
We
want
to
build
this
because
some
real
estate
agents
said:
hey
doug,
here's
a
lot
for
sale.
M
Words
like
that
feeling,
sincere
and
in
a
setting
like
this,
but
it's
true,
I
mean
there
there.
There
are
unique
opportunities
in
this
community
and
in
this
site,
and
we
have
a
very
excited
and
committed
atypical
development
team
that
that's
looking
forward
to
doing
something
interesting
and
important
on
this
site.
J
J
E
S
S
They
love
the
site
and
the
main
reason.
The
number
one
reason
is:
the
proximity
to
transportation.
This
site
is
so
centrally
located
to
so
many
nodes
of
transportation
that
it's
a
no-brainer
for
for
scientists,
because
many
of
the
scientists
who
are
going
to
be
working
in
this
building
are
going
to
be.
S
You
know,
entry-level
scientists
just
out
of
their
postdoc
or
or
their
phd
and
they're
they're,
not
going
to
be
making
a
they're
going
to
make
good
salaries,
but
they're
not
going
to
be
making
the
type
of
salary
where
they
can
live
in
newton
and
commute
in
every
single
day.
They're
going
to
want
to
be
able.
S
M
The
the
the
the
flywheel
of
of
venture
capital
and
and
pharma
ideas
that
that
are
that's
sort
of
spinning
in
in
cambridge
is
a
tremendously
sort
of
sizzling
hot
piece
of
of
the
economy
and
it's
driving
this
real
estate
boom
of
this
type
of
building
we're
working
with
commercial
realtors
that
that
have
you
know
beyond.
I
love
that
that
doug
explains
it
in
terms
of
his
friends,
and
this
is
sort
of
the
test
group
that
got
the
ball
rolling,
but
we're
working
with
lincoln
capital
properties,
and
we
haven't.
S
And
additionally,
first
thing
is:
every
year
there
are
more
about
every
day,
but
every
year
there
are
substantially
more
biotech
companies
than
there
were
the
last
year.
You
have
incubators
all
over
the
surrounding
areas
right
and
they're.
Just
and
then
you
have
all
these
amazing
universities
and
and
there's
a
shift
in
in
sort
of
the
the
science
career
growth
right.
It's
it's
it
used
to
be
you
go
to
school,
you
get
trained
and
you
go
become
a
professor.
Well,
those
jobs
aren't
available
anymore.
That's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I'm
a
developer.
S
So
I
think
I
think
that's
why
you
hear
all
these
people
say
that
the
but
the
other
reason
is
we've
had
conversations
with
our
friends
to
say
what
do
you
dislike
most
about
the
buildings
you're
renting
right
and
the
number
one
issue?
There
is
not
location.
It's
we
have
once
we
get
to
a
certain
size,
we
have
to
move
to
another
building
and
that
building
could
be
we
could
have
been
in
chelsea,
and
now
we
have
to
move
to
woburn.
S
Is
they
when
they
move
their
investors,
get
angry
because
they
have
months
of
downtime
and
they're
just
burning
through
capital
and
they're,
not
getting
anywhere.
So
we
thought
about
that.
On
top
of
the
transportation,
we're
designing
a
building
that
is,
allows
companies
to
to
grow
in
the
same
building,
and
I
think
that's
also
going
to
be
beneficial
to
the
community,
because
you're
going
to
get
these
companies
to
come
in
here
and
they're
going
to
you
know,
lay
the
groundwork
and
be
here
for
a
while,
as
opposed
to
every
two
years,
moving
out
so
again.
S
I
I
think
this.
This
building
makes
a
lot
of
sense
for
a
lot
of
reasons,
and
so
the
reason
why
we
designed
it
this
way
is
for
your
exact
question
at
some
point:
there's
going
to
be
an
equilibrium
right,
we're
going
to
have
supply
meet
demand.
I
don't
know
when
that's
going
to
be,
but
I
want
to
be
able
to
say
my
buildings
are
still
going
to
get
rented
out
because
of
that
reason.
C
G
S
J
M
M
So
these
these
are
dropping
people
off
to
our
pedestrians
and
these
two
locations,
mainly
here
right
and
so
our
the
intention-
is
that
we
would
you
know
people
would
probably
walk
on
this
side
of
the
street,
make
a
decision
about
when
they
cross
over
to
our
building,
either
at
this
crosswalk
or
the
crosswalk
up
at
the
fbi.
Building
and
really
you
know
how
that
walk
happens
is
up
to
the
people
who
are
doing
that
walk.
But
what
we
want
to
be
able
to
do
is
mark
that
route
with
with
green.
H
M
M
We've
already
got
that
kind
of
burned
into
our
recommendations,
and
so
what
he's
done
is
he's
looked
at
pedestrian
traffic
and
and
vehicular
traffic
in
our
area
and
as
it
is
affected
in
the
surrounding
blocks
and
a
pretty
significant
distance
away
from
our
site,
and
you
know
we,
we
can't
change
the
widths
of
streets,
we
can't
move
buildings,
cities
grow
and
they
they
evolve
and-
and
you
know
when
they
go
backwards.
That's
sad.
We
want
the
city
to
grow,
but
it
comes
with
with
management
issues
of
vehicles
and
pedestrians.
M
His
management
tool
is
to
be
able
to
re-time
the
traffic
signals
so
that
they
provide
a
longer
wait
period.
You
know-
and
this
is
geared
carefully
to
so
it
doesn't
create
further
backups
with
traffic
and
so
forth,
and
and
it's
got
a
variable
time
on
it
as
well,
and
it
also
gives
and
then
the
the
walk
signals
and
don't
walk
signals
are
also
adjusted.
So
what
you
do
is
you're
you're
able
to
accommodate
the
sort
of
dance
between
vehicles
and
pedestrians
as
we're
we're
adding
more
of
both
to
this
area.
M
M
Yes,
you
know,
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
detail
about
that,
but
actually
that
we,
we
had
a
conversation
at
a
couple
of
different
points
about
what
it
would
look
like
if
there
were
shuttles
to
this
area.
You
know
if
this
was
a
node
of
life
science.
You
know
with
other
sites
developed.
It
might
make
sense
for
us
to
provide
that
transportation.
I
D
I
got
a
couple
of
questions:
what
about
secure
security,
because
it
seems
that
you
want
it
to
be
open
to
the
public,
but
most
laboratories
are
not
because
of
security.
So
if
you
you
plan
to
have
that
restaurant
open
at
night
of
that
patio
and
also
that's
one
because
security
is
a
big
issue
in
labs.
Second-
is:
what's
the
story
with
the
gas
station
yeah?
M
And
there's
a
floor
plan
view
that
not
that
the
the
one
back
one
more
and
that's
thank
you.
So
this
is
the
revised
entry
and
and
so
open
to
the
yes.
So,
to
answer
your
question,
simply
the
the
the
food
tenant
would
be
open
to
the
public.
During
you
know,
business
hours
and
in
the
evening
of
public
entry
into
a
lobby,
and
then
we'd
have
fob
activated
entry
to
to
elevators
so
and
that
that's
going
to
be
controlled
by
floor.
M
Certain
fobs
are
going
to
have
access
to
certain
floors
and
denied
access
to
others,
then
so
food
on
one
side,
access
to
the
the
core
functions
upstairs.
We
also
have
a
a
conference
center
on
on
this
side
of
the
lobby.
That's
also
going
to
be
open
to
the
public.
Okay.
This
is
part
of
where
we're
thinking
about
the
chelsea
room.
M
You
know,
conference
in
meeting
facilities
that
are
available,
for
you
know,
obviously
folks
doing
science
and
pitching
and
so
forth
in
the
building,
but
for
the
community
as
well,
so
that
that's
going
to
have
a
controlled
access
and
again
these
are
fob
activated
doors
here.
So
people
who
are
just
coming
in
here
for
a
lecture
or
for
a
business
meeting
or
something
aren't
going
to
be
able
to
pop
that
door
and
get
into
the
on
the
deeper
parts
of
the
building
and
the
gas
station.
S
S
K
K
D
S
Be
there'll
be
doors
that
are
only
accessible
by
key
card
in
the
first
floor
to
get
into
the
the
elevators
and
the
the
hallways
that
allow
you
to
the
to
the
lab
force.
So
that's
that's.
How
most
buildings
are
that
I've
ever
worked
in,
but
yeah
we
want
to
have
the
the
restaurant
and
the
the
food
area
is
not
just
for
the
public
it.
It
serves.
The
building
itself,
too.
S
I
mean
many
of
these
scientists
are
going
to
come
in
grab
their
coffee
go
up
to
work,
they're
going
to
come
down
there
for
lunch,
so
it
has
to
be
functional
that
way
we
will
hire
a
a
full-time
management
company
as
well.
It's
not
going
to
be
me
managing
this
thing.
It's
going
to
be
a
management
company
that
is
much
better
at
that
than
I
am
in
terms
of
the
gas
station.
We've
tried.
S
We
we
it
took
us
a
while
to
find
out
who
actually
owned
it
because
it
changed
hands
recently
and
it's
a
a
national
company
that
owns
a
bunch
of
different
gas
stations
all
over
the
country
and
we
finally
got
in
touch
with
their
vp
of
real
estate,
and
we
had
a
couple
conversations
and
I
said
what
would
it
take
to
buy
this?
I
wanted
to
just
see
what
their
number
was
right.
He
said,
doug.
S
We
have
no
interest
in
selling
that
location
it's
too
profitable,
so
he
wouldn't
even
give
me
a
number
that
I
could
even
try
to
make
sense
of
so
unfortunately,
yes,
I
was
asked
that
question,
probably
from
day
one.
When
we
brought
this
this
project,
can
you
get
the
gas
station?
I
said
I'll
try,
but
we
tried
the
gas
station.
S
We
tried
the
church,
those
two
have
been
kind
of
a
strikeout,
but
we
do
have
stuff
across
the
street
and
we're
going
to
work
our
way
through
the
triangle
to
try
to
to
redevelop
some
of
that
as
well,
but
I'll
keep
working
if
they
at
some
point.
You
know
things
change
we'll
we'll
be
here.
Talking
about
the
gas
station.
M
That's
that's
really
what
this
it's
a
machine
that
that
takes
supplies
and
sends
out
trash,
so
we've
got
three
loading
docks
on
on
beach
street,
two
of
which
will
will
handle
an
18-wheeler
one
will
handle
a
panel
truck
so
and
then
we've
got
a
trash,
a
separate
trash
dock
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
building.
So
essentially
I
mean
there's
a
couple
of
different
types
of
supplies
that
that
will
come
into
this
building.
M
The
one
we
focus
on
the
most
is
is
our
chemicals
that
are
controlled
by
the
code
and
the
other
sort
of
dance
we
do
with
with
chemicals.
In
a
building
like
this,
is
you
can
store
larger
quantities
of
chemicals
on
lower
floors,
the
higher
floors?
You
get
up
the
less
quantities
by
a
lot
you're
able
to
store.
So
you
know
in
all
labs
use
common,
reagents
and
and
different
compounds
that
are
similar
to
all
types
of
signs
that
are
being
done
in
the
building.
M
So
we've
got
a
system
that
that
receives
those
chemicals
stores
them
low.
We
will
probably
have
a
third
party
vendor
that
will
keep
track
of
the
accounts
of
the
the
companies
on
the
upper
floors
and
what
they
need
and
when
and
deliver
the
amounts
that
they
need
when
they
need
it
in
the
quantities
that
are
are
allowed
by
code
to
be
stored
on
the
floors
that
they're
doing
their
work.
So
that's
the
chemical
piece.
M
P
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
tommy
bracino
city
manager,
myself.
My
administration
are
strong
supporters
of
this
proposal.
This
is
the
business
zoning
district.
It
was
created
before
my
time,
but
presumably
to
attract
major
commercial
development.
It
has
attracted
four
hotels,
a
major
fbi
office
building.
It
was
not
created
for
single-story
restaurants.
P
This
is
exactly
the
kind
of
major
commercial
development
that
the
city
wants.
In
these
commercial
business
districts.
It
is
going
to
generate
significant
and
good
paying
jobs.
It
is
going
to
generate
significant
economic
benefit
for
the
city,
including
large
amounts
of
property
taxes
on
an
annual
basis,
and
it's
going
to
aesthetically
improve
the
area.
It
is
precisely
the
kind
of
development
we
are
trying
to
attract
to
this
commercial
business
corridor.
P
Am
I
skeptical,
of
course,
I'm
skeptical
of
every
development,
every
major
development
that
gets
permanent
here
until
I
see
it
actually
get
built,
I'm
skeptical,
but
that
never
prevents
me
from
advocating
for
the
permitting
of
something
that,
if
built,
is
going
to
have
major
benefits
to
the
city.
If
we
don't
permanent,
it
will
never
get
built.
That's
a
certainty.
P
Q
Q
Q
Yes,
it's
11
stories,
but
what
it's?
Actually,
if
you
think
about
it,
really
eight
stories,
because
three
of
those
stories
happen
to
be
parking
now,
it
incorporated
the
parking
within
the
structure
itself,
which
I
think
aesthetically
is
much
better
than
what
the
area
has.
If
you
look
at
the
fbi
building,
yes,
it's
surrounded
for
security
reasons
by
parking
and
a
gate
set
back.
Q
You
know
I'm
not
impressed
with
that.
The
mgh
hospital
again
built
back
in
the
1980s
right
in
the
middle
of
the
parking
lot
completely
surrounded
by
parking,
which
again
aesthetically
did
you
want
to
see
a
building
so
set
back
but
completely
surrounded
by
cars.
It
doesn't
look
attractive
across
the
street.
A
lower
level
two-story
office
park
again
centered
parking
all
in
front
set
back,
not
pleasing
nor
across
the
street,
again
patriot
place
that
it
was
called
a
left.
I'm
sorry,
an
l-shaped
office
building
set
back
two
stories,
all
surrounded
by
parking.
Q
It
is
aesthetically
unpleasant
where
on
this
one,
the
parking
was
incorporated
within
the
building
on
the
first
few
levels
and
then
you
have
actual
functional
space,
and
I
think
that
is
much
more
appeasing
than
all.
Of
that
I
mean
how
I
mean
again:
how
appeasing
is
market
basket
as
great
as
a
shopping
mall?
It
is
you
get
a
walk
half
a
mile
before
you
get
to
it
or
see
it.
I
mean
it's
not
very
pleasing
as
beautiful.
Q
It
is
because
it's
so
far
back,
you
don't
even
know
where
the
building
is
until
you
drive
through
the
lot.
So
that
makes
sense.
It
also
makes
sense
that
they
incorporated
the
parking
in
the
structure,
because,
if
you're
familiar
with
this
areas,
I'm
aware
of
the
history
and
also
of
the
millions
of
dollars,
the
city
is
spending
right
now
for
flood
protection.
It
is
actually
a
very
high
water
table
there
and
when
the
hotel
was
built
in
the
back
and
they
did
the
pilings,
they
had
to
deal
with
this
issue.
Q
No
one
in
that
area
wants
a
basement,
because
some
of
you
know
you
get
what
basement.
You're
gonna
get
water
in
the
basement.
You
dig
below
three
four
levels
here:
you're
gonna
be
pumping
so
much
water
out
and
having
those
issues,
so
it
makes
sense
not
to
go
below
ground
when
you
have
a
former
creek
over
there
and
you're
just
doing
the
piles.
So
I
think
overall,
the
structure
makes
sense.
The
beauty
of
it
makes
sense
and
for
all
the
reasons
that
the
city
manager
already
stated
the
economics.
A
N
My
name
is
jeff
martin,
okay,
president
of
the
carpenter's
local
328.
We
have
over
100
members
that
live
and
their
families
in
this
city
and
we're
in
full
support
of
this
project
going
forward,
as
doug
mentioned,
dpr
responsible
contractor
livable
wages
with
benefits
to
attain
to
live
here
with
dignity.
Thank
you
all
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
E
M
M
That's
that's
poking
out
towards
route
one,
and
that's
actually
I
mean
we
do
a
lot
of
talking
about
everett
avenue
and
the
face
of
the
building
there,
but
that
route
one
face
to
me
is
one
of
the
important
faces
of
the
building.
It's
also
sort
of
a
gateway
to
what
we
think
of
as
chelsea.
So
we've
it's,
it's
not
it's
not
really
a
back
to
us
at
the
street
level.
It
is
it's
not
going
to
be
an
enticing
pedestrian
experience.
M
There's
there
we
have
covered
rolling
doors
that
will
cover
the
the
loading
docks
loading
docks,
as
shown
here
on
project
out
to
the
the
lot
line,
we're
going
to
pull
them
back
at
the
ground
floor
level.
It
helps
with
the
the
turning
radiuses
of
the
trucks
and
so
forth
and
give
a
little
bit
of
relief
to
the
street,
and
so
that
the
the
rolling
doors
will
be
back
at
that.
That
level.
M
M
A
B
S
In
case
not
everybody
heard
the
question
she
asked.
If
there
was
any
agreement
between
myself
or
the
development
team
in
the
carpenters
union,
there
was
not
any
direct
relationship
as
soon
as
this
became
public.
I
believe
when
it
was
published
in
the
chelsea
record
they
started
reaching
out
to
me.
I
don't
even
know
how
they
got
my
number
honestly
but
yeah,
so
they
reached
out
to
me
and
just
were
asking
questions
about
who
we
were
using
for
contractors
and
things
like
that.
So
that's
they're
here
on
their
own.
M
C
E
E
A
D
A
J
A
S
A
F
F
F
We
recognize
that
parking
is
always
an
issue
in
that
area.
Right
now,
there
is
no
off
street
parking
for
this
building,
so
the
addition
of
another
unit
would
be
an
incremental
deficit
in
the
parking
and
that's
basically
it
it's
not
an
exciting
project.
It's
not
a
big
project,
but
it's
necessary
for
one
to
make
the
maintenance
of
his
property
feasible.
F
F
D
F
D
U
D
D
E
F
A
U
U
I
upgraded
some,
what
the
kitchens
and
I'm
going
to
continue
to
upgrade
the
kitchens
put
in
a
new
granite
counter
tops
and
previously
also
I
you
know,
I
replaced
all
the
appliances
so
a
little
by
little
I'm
doing
things
the
facade
of
the
building
was
also
I
I
cited.
I
put
siding,
looks
much
much
better.
S
A
A
A
E
You've
got
request
to
continue
the
275
washington
app
to
the
next
meeting,
which
will
be
tuesday
august
2nd.
You
just
have
to
vote
to
allow
him
to
continue
the
do.
We
know
why,
yes,
the
architect,
who
wanted
to
make
the
presentation
is
out
of
the
country
he
went
to.
He
went
to
see
family
where
I
don't.
I
didn't
ask
the.
J
D
Q
However,
unbeknownst
to
us,
we
didn't
realize
that
the
visitor
pass
program
is
also
considered
to
be
part
of
the
resident
parking
program
and
when
we
those
very
same
buildings
from
participating
in
the
resident
sticker
program.
That
also
meant
that
someone
like
mimi
who
lives
in
one
of
these
buildings
can't
get
a
visitor
pass.
And
you
know
she
has
friends,
people
want
to
come
and
see.
S
Q
Q
Q
You
know
thanks
to
mimi
bringing
up
because
she
was
in
one
of
the
very
first
new
buildings
that
had
this
in
place
so
that
while
they
can't
participate
in
the
resident
sticker
program
a
resident,
they
of
course
should
be
able
to
have
a
visitor
pass
and
I've
talked
to
jeanette
citron,
the
parking
clerk
and
she-
and
I
asked
barry
before
I
presented
this-
is
there
any
potential
of
abuse
by
someone
who
has
this
residence?
I
mean
rather
visitor
pass
from
being
a
resident
and
getting
caught.
Q
She
said
absolutely
not
because
there's
a
lot
of
restrictions
and
there's
a
stamp
on
there
or
a
check
mark
and
so
forth,
and
you
can
only
get
two
or
three
and
if
it's
a
person,
that's
privately
doing
it,
there's
a
record
of
that.
So
it
relieved
my
concern
of
any
abuse
of
the
visitor
passed
by
someone
trying
to
circumvent
that
whole
resident
sticker
program.
So
with
that
in
mind,
this
is
in
front
of
you.
I
hope
the
planning
board
will
make
a
recommendation.
Q
E
These
are
all
the
sites
that
have
been
approved
for
parking
relief
and
are
now
either
mandatory,
not
eligible
or
some
volunteer,
for
example,
tnd's
projects.
Some
of
these
projects
actually
were
approved
prior
to
adoption,
but
they
agreed
to
be
participating
or
they
were
exempt
from
it.
They
agreed
to
participate,
so
it's
about
22
sites
and
totals
about
300
or
so
parking
space,
actually
271
residential
units.
E
A
A
E
It's
two
weeks:
it
takes
two
weeks
yeah.
It
has
to
be
advertised
for
for
two
weeks
and
then
it's
that
takes
effect.
You
will
also
have
another
amendment
that
the
council
moved
to
you
last
night
to
allow
electric
car
repairs
in
the
shopping
center
and
industrial
district.
That
will
come
to
you
on
your
august,
2nd
meeting
and
then
we'll
be
passed
on
to
the
council.
So,
theoretically
you
could
be
addressing
that
amendment.
At
the
same
time,.