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From YouTube: City Council Sub Committee Meeting of 3-18-21
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City of Chelsea, via WebEx
A
A
We
do
not
have
a
quorum,
but
we
will
proceed
with
the
meeting
to
call
it
a
meeting
due
to
the
fact
that
there
will
be
a
presentation
by
the
housing
trust
board.
The
following
subject
matter
will
be
discussed.
The
resolution
regarding
4143
orange
street,
affordable
housing,
trust
fund
transfer
requests.
A
B
A
D
C
So,
thank
you,
members
of
council
for
taking
the
time
to
meet
with
myself
and
the
members
of
the
trust
fund
board
tonight.
So
my
name
is
alex
tran.
I'm
the
director
of
housing
and
community
development
with
the
city
of
chelsea
and
we're
here
tonight
to
discuss
the
proposal
for
4143
orange
street,
which
was
a
request
to
transfer
two
city-owned
parcels
from
the
city
government
of
chelsea
to
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
board
for
the
purposes
of
creating
new,
affordable
housing.
C
So
we
have
a
short
presentation
that
frames
the
site
the
context
in
the
neighborhood,
as
well
as
the
general
timeline
for
the
project
that
would
occur.
If
the
council
voted
favorably
upon
the
trust
fund
board's
request
first
fatim,
are
they
able
to
see
the
presentation
at
home
on
their
computers
perfect?
Thank
you.
C
They
have
one
pool
of
funds,
that
is
for
general,
affordable
housing
purposes,
and
they
have
a
second
pool
of
funds
from
the
chelsea
city
council
for
the
purpose
of
creating
low
and
moderate
income
home
ownership
opportunities
for
residents
about
six
months
ago,
give
or
take
the
city
council
approved
and
submitted
a
home
rule
petition
to
the
legislature.
That
would
allow
the
trust
fund
board
to
take
possession
of
city-owned
properties
that
were
acquired
through
the
tax
title
foreclosure
process.
C
So
the
first
parcel
that
has
been
identified
since
the
passage
of
this
home
rule
petition
is
4143
orange
street.
It
consists
of
two
small
parcels
in
a
densely
settled,
residential
neighborhood
and
we'll
walk
you
through
an
analysis
of
the
site,
as
well
as
the
general
timeline
and
proposal
from
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
board.
C
So
4143
orange
street
is
located
centrally
in
the
addison
orange
neighborhood.
It's
about
half
a
block
from
the
intersection
of
eden
street
and
orange
street,
a
short
distance
from
kerry
square,
the
commuter
rail
station
silverline
3
service,
as
well
as
local
parks
like
eden
park
and
neighborhood
schools.
C
C
C
Presently
there
are
numerous
streetscape
connections
that
tie
the
site
in
with
the
general
neighborhood,
so
that
includes
pedestrian
connections
up
to
cary
square,
to
chelsea
high
school,
as
well
as
to
the
commuter
rail
station
in
some
locations.
The
streetscape
is
in
moderate
to
fair
condition,
but
in
other
locations
it's
been
significantly
deteriorated
over
the
course
of
the
last
five
to
ten
years.
C
This
would
allow
for
a
new
streetscape
with
ada
compliant
crosswalks
traffic
calming
and
pavement
markings
and
modern
sidewalks
for
residents
to
use
to
access
local
amenities.
Moreover,
it
would
also
serve
the
future
uses
of
this
site
once
a
use
is
decided
upon
by
the
city
council
and
the
trust
fund
board
next.
C
C
There's
a
photograph
on
the
right
hand,
side
that
provides
a
street
view
of
what
the
properties
look
like
today,
as
you
can
see,
they
aren't
currently
used
for
for
any
particular
use
and
they're
boarded
by
two
residential
buildings
with
the
chelsea
housing
authority
building.
In
the
backdrop
next,
so
this
is
an
image
that
seeks
to
depict
the
scale
of
the
surrounding
neighborhood
in
the
context
of
these
two
sites.
C
So,
from
our
analysis,
so
far,
we're
we've
been
able
to
determine
that
some
form
of
neighborhood
scale
development
at
the
site
would
be
appropriate.
Such
development
would
have
to
be
respectful
of
the
scale
of
the
surrounding
buildings.
It
would
also
have
to
respond
to
the
architecture
of
the
neighborhood
so
that
it's
harmonious
with
the
surrounding
area.
C
At
this
time,
the
trust
fund
board
hasn't
selected,
a
number
of
units
for
this
project
or
any
type
of
architectural
details,
but
they
wanted
to
first
approach
chelsea
city
council
to
open
up
a
discussion
about
the
opportunity
and
to
hear
from
council
what
their
main
housing
priorities
are.
That
could
be
realized
through
this
project.
C
C
C
This
is
just
a
tentative
schedule.
That's
really
meant
to
be
informational
for
city
council.
Once
we
delve
into
the
details
with
mass
housing
partnership,
the
schedule
is
bound
to
change,
but
we'll
keep
city
council
informed
throughout
every
step
of
the
process,
and
so
with
that
it
concludes
our
presentation
on
the
site,
as
well
as
the
request.
C
C
A
D
Sure
I
don't
have
much
to
add
beyond
what
what
alex
has
already
said,
except.
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
we
are
very
invested
in
getting
the
input
from
city
council
right
from
the
beginning
and
from
there
continuing
to
get
input
from
the
community,
and
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
how
to
execute
that,
and
that's
gonna
be
one
of
our
first
priorities.
So
we
just
love
to
hear
your
perspective
and
what
your
goals
are
for
for
affordable
housing
in
the
community.
B
C
So,
since
it's
an
r2
zone
in
order
to
do
one
to
three
units,
you
would
need
a
minimum
of
3
500
square
feet
of
lock
coverage
so
to
do
anything
more
than
one
unit
right
now.
You
would
need
some
form
of
zoning
relief,
so
that's
going
to
be
relief
either
for
the
lot
size
for
the
setbacks
for
the
parking
or
for
the
open
space.
I
think
it
would
be
really
difficult
to
do
anything
more
than
one
unit
here
with
buy
right
without
obtaining
any
further
zoning
relief.
C
B
B
C
So
at
this
time
we
have
not
had
any
discussions
with
any
prospective
developers.
It
was
really
important
to
the
trust
fund
board
to
speak
with
council
first
hear
what
your
feedback
is,
and
let
that
inform
the
approach
here.
So
following
this
meeting,
and
hopefully
the
approval
of
the
request,
we
would
then
engage
with
prospective
developers
on
any
opportunities
that
might
rest.
C
B
B
D
We
haven't
really
discussed,
you
know,
discuss
it
at
that
level
or
that
level
of
specifics.
Yet
I
think
my
sense
of
based
on
our
conversations
we've
had
so
far
is
that
we
would
be
willing
to
spend
some
of
those
funds
if
necessary,
but
I
think
we
would
have
to
look
at
the
plans
at
the
cost
and
also
consider
the
value
of
the
land,
and
you
know
all
things
considered
would
would
our
funds
be
necessary?
B
E
E
A
B
I
just
want
to
clarify
one
thing
that
I
didn't
mention
to
be
on
record.
While
I
state
three
to
four-
and
I
would
look
in
this
for
to
be
first
time
home
ownership
opportunities,
I
would
expect
you
know
to
get
as
close
to
100,
affordable
all
the
units
to
be
affordable.
Now
I
understand,
maybe
the
numbers
don't
work
for
a
developer
to
build
it
unless
there's
money
thrown
in
by
the
aftb,
which
is
what
I
meant.
You
know
who
knows
if
they're
saying
well,
we
can
build.
B
You
know
all
these
four
units
all
be
affordable,
seeded,
affordable
and
such
subsidized.
But
if
it's
a
thing,
I'm
not
looking
for
a
developer
to
come
in
build
four
units.
Only
one
is
affordable.
That
would
not
be
something
I
would
support.
I
expect
this
to
be
anywhere
from
a
hundred
percent
to
a
minimum,
maybe
with
zero
dollars
from
the
city
and
subsidizing
it.
Fifty
percent,
you
know
saying:
okay,
two
market
rate
two
affordable,
something
it
all
depends.
B
B
B
The
idea
of
building
these
is
so
that
maybe
in
10
whatever
years
down
the
road
when
that
person,
who's,
only
affordable,
wants
to
move
out
and
sell,
and
that's
all
of
a
sudden
gotten
the
lottery
ticket,
because
that's
what
this
turns
into,
who
gets
to
one
of
the
lottery
tickets
and
then
the
next
person
behind
them
doesn't
get
to
have
the
affordable
we've.
Just
you
know,
lost
the
opportunity.
So
I
have
fought.
Boxworks
was
a
project
that
we
are
learning
lessons.
B
B
You
can
now
rent
this
at
market
rate
and
therefore
you
defer
the
whole
you.
You
defeat
the
whole
purpose
of
creating
affordable
housing
in
the
rvr.
So
I
I
think
you
that
we,
you
know
we
should
be
limiting
the
timetable
of
when
an
affordable
housing
ownership
opportunity
ends
if
they
get
the
lottery
ticket
and
they
get
to
buy
a
home,
and
with
that
all
the
benefits,
then,
when
they
sell
they
shouldn't
all
of
a
sudden.
B
A
A
C
Absolutely
so
one
of
the
key
goals
of
our
strategic
housing
plan
is
to
create
family
size,
housing,
meaning
units
with
more
than
two
bedrooms
to
accommodate
households
with
children.
So,
looking
at
the
feasibility
of
doing
larger
units
with
more
than
two
bedrooms
will
be
something
that
we'll
task
the
architect
with
to
see.
If
it's,
if
it's
viable
here,
I
do
think
that
it
would
align
really
well
with
our
housing
goals
and
it
would
obviously
serve
an
unmet
need.
That's
really
not
being
addressed
right
now.
A
Yeah,
I
I
agree
with
that.
The
you
know
my
my
concern
is
that
we're
not
really
addressing
the
logic
units
in
this
community
and
that
everything
seems
to
boil
down
to
one
or
two
one
or
two
bedrooms
which
knocks
out
a
lot
of
families
who
might
have
the
opportunity
to
win
that
ticket
to
get
one
of
the
affordable
units.
The
question
is:
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
control?
A
I
know
because
of
certain
housing
rules.
I
know
like
in
some
of
the
developments
they
say.
Well,
70
percent
have
to
be
chelsea
residents.
I
think
that
some
of
the
confusion
at
times
for
me,
when
I
say
70
of
the
units
but
they're
talking
about
70
of
the
affordable
units,
have
to
be
chelsea
people
so
the
whole
there's
that
whole
misconception
that
you
you're
working
off
the
whole
number
but
you're
actually
not
you're,
only
working
off
the
affordable
units,
and
I
think
that's
what
confuses
a
lot
of
chelsea
residents.
A
C
C
It's
just
once
you
start
tacking
in
federal
financing
is
when
that
70
rule
comes
up,
so
I
think
our
goal
would
be
for
this
to
really
prioritize
existing
residents
prioritize
existing
families.
You
can
also
set
preferences
related
to
veteran
status,
disability
status
and
so
on.
So
that's
something
we'll
be
looking
at
pretty
carefully.
B
Simply
that
I
appreciate
the
time
that
the
both
alex
and
the
chairperson
from
the
aft
spent,
and
given
this
we
are-
I
I
personally,
I
can't
speak
to
my
colleagues-
I'm
very
excited
that
we're
going
to
create
this
opportunity
and
I
look
forward
to
both
voting
in
favor
of
this
transfer
and
also
to
be
working
with
both
alex
and
the
board
on
the
rfp
process.
I
think
it's
I've
been
saying
for
a
while.
Now
we
don't
do
it,
we
haven't
been
doing
enough.
B
I
don't
think
the
city
when
we
look
at
all
the
constructions.
That's
happened
in
the
last
few
years.
It's
been
heavily
apartment
rental,
but
not
enough
homeownership
opportunities
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
we're.
Finally,
at
least
for
a
counselor,
we
finally
have
a
vote
that
can
go
in
that
direction.
We
really
don't
have
any
votes
when
it
comes
to
what
gets
developed
for
you
know
again
with
ownership
versus
rental.
There's
no
vote
for
me
to
take
otherwise
I
would
have
taken.
B
This
is
the
first
time
that
I
get
to
vote
on
something
that
will
actually
go
in
that
direction
which
I've
been
lobbying
for.
So
I'm
excited-
and
I
appreciate
the
time
and
this
opportunity
that
the
city
is
doing
and
I'm
happy
that
we
all
voted
back
last
year
for
this
tax
title
takeover
to
happen
and
to
finally
get
an
opportunity
to
have
this
happen.
So
that's
all.
A
Just
for
the
record,
I'd
like
to
recognize
my
former
colleague
brian
hattelberg,
who's
also
involved
in
the
housing
trust
board,
and
also
make
note
that
the
assistant
city
manager,
ned
keith,
is
here
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
we'll
be
looking
forward
to
possibly
seeing
you
at
the
next
meeting.
Thank
you
for
your
time.