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From YouTube: Zoning Board of Appeals of 7-11-23
Description
City of Chelsea
A
A
The
first
case
in
front
of
us
today
is
80
Park,
Street,
Chase
and
Faya
first
special
permit
in
variance
seeking
approval
for
the
conversion
of
an
existing
residential
structure
from
one
family
to
two
family
structure,
which
does
not
meet
the
minimum
requirement
for
open
space
and
Austin
parking
Arthur.
You
will
not
be
participating
in
this
one
and
Joan
when
Joan
gets
here,
but
she's
also
not
to
participate
in
this,
so
we'll
get
started,
but
we
came
before
us
last
weekend.
You
want
to
tell
us
what
the
planning
board
says.
B
A
B
C
C
D
C
A
Okay,
so
before
we
go
any
further,
this
is
a
variance.
So
when
it
comes
to
a
variance,
you
have
to
need
each
of
the
four
criteria:
okay,
I
will
fill
them
one
at
a
time.
You
will
tell
us
how
you
will
need
that
and
then
we
will
decide
if
what
you
say
makes
sense.
Okay,
perfect,
so
the
variance
is
sought
because
of
soil
conditions,
shape
or
Topography
of
such
land
of
structure.
Now,
and
especially,
if
that's
in
such
land
instructors,
but
not
affecting
generally
the
zoning
District
that
which
is
located
John.
A
C
B
A
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B
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E
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G
A
B
H
So
this
is
a
project
we
actually
work
with
the
city
of
John
and
I.
Calm
to
you
know:
rework
this
walk
and
this
design,
because
the
city
rezone
this
property
for
another
use.
So
as
a
result
of
that,
we
did
a
limitation
for
five
years
from
Cielo
to
to
Wild
issues.
What
we
did
is
we
created
a
green
space
here
in
the
part
of
the
party.
H
You
really
can't
see
if
you
drive
by
if
you
find
you'll
find
a
snap
all
this
is
sort
of
set
back,
but
it
still
looks
like
the
worst
teacher,
whatever
one
I
have
to
say
when
you
go
by
the
dictator
correct.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
paint
this
as
potential
another
lot.
If
you
get
some
involved
down
the
road,
we
don't
want
to
put
a
structure
on
it,
so
we
set
this
out.
It's
not
a
small
area,
it's
a
pretty
good
size
air.
Just
to
lock
the
size.
H
So,
at
least
whatever
you
do
see
when
you
drive
by,
will
be
a
nice
green
space,
and
also
these
are
going
to
be
new
vehicles
for
Caribbean,
so
at
least
not
that
you
wouldn't
see
them,
but
at
least
now
you
have
a
green
space
barrier
between
the
new
vehicles
on
this
side.
This
is
still
going
to
be
talking
to
the
actual
building
itself,
really
into
an
occupy
a
portion
of
the
building.
The
actual
order
of
the
building
it's
supposed
to
vacate
in
June
of
next
year
upon
his
food
is
vacating.
We're
going
to
be.
H
We
want
to
entire
ability
to
repurposite
the
entire
building,
we're
using
a
portion
of
their
building
for
their
operation.
Then
the
rest
of
the
buildings
we
develop.
They
can
either
use
just
hopefully
consistent
to
the
way
they
use
on
it
is
done
and
then
into
the
potential
user.
That's
looking
for
a
bigger
site,
which
is
why
we
kept
this
card
ready.
H
So,
at
least
in
their
future,
like
the
next
three
four
five
years,
which
is
finally
put
a
limitation
working
with
the
city.
This
is
for
five
years
and
then
we
can
see
where
we're
at
it's
like
this.
You
know
and
see
if
there's
other
users
that
come
in
or
just
potentially
go
back,
so
we
did
a
little
vacation
for
that,
so
it
works
with
the
city.
It
works
for
current
development
and
future
development.
H
14
employees,
a
good
portion
of
them
upon
Chelsea,
because
they
they
want
people
that
do
most
to
work
there
and
they
expect,
when
they're,
fully
operational,
to
be
probably
consistent
and
there
and
hope
we
can
expand,
and
this
building
for
more
space,
seeing
where
they
go.
One
of
the
biggest
alumni
with
electric
vehicles
and
looking
at
Meridian
is
manufactured
these
vehicles.
They
only
can
manufacture
25,
000
and
50
000
in
a
year.
So
there's
really
not
that
much,
because
they
just
can't
make
it,
but
if
the
whole
prevent
it
grows
on
the
road.
H
This
can
turn
into
a
bigger
the
building,
with
more
use,
more
employees
and
more
manufacturing
that
can
actually
help
them
down
the
road.
That's
one
of
the
reasons
why
clients
formed
first
was
property
clean
it
up,
paid
the
site,
strike
it
and
do
this
building
over
with
the
potential
of
what
can
happen
down
the
road,
and
this
will
help
over
the
short
term
and
also
work
with
the
city
with
their
long-term
goals
on
the
property.
A
J
H
A
L
F
H
H
K
H
F
H
H
This
is
how
you
start.
This
is
how
you
charge.
This
is
what
you
don't
do.
The
biggest
problem
is
not
what
you
do.
Do
it's
what
you
shouldn't
do
that
creates
problems
in
these
vehicles
and
when
you
scheduling,
update
update,
because
if
you
don't
update
it,
that's
how
the
software
creates
problems
so
that
they'll
be
training.
You
know
people
to
understand
on
the
repair,
and
so
it
doesn't.
H
M
H
D
G
I
G
H
In
fact,
the
one
of
the
biggest
thing
they
looked
at
I
remember
was
because
most
trucks
were
coming
from
the
port.
That's
one
of
the
reasons
why
they
like
Chelsea.
Can
you
come
from
the
port
and
essentially
when
they
come
at
the
hour
they
come.
They
usually
come
February
in
the
morning
like
5,
30
or
six
o'clock,
so
they
they
would
come
here
and
they
would
just
stack
it
in
and
bring
it
to
the
building
and
pick
up
here
and
then
just
drop
them
right
on
and
they
only
make
deliveries.
H
They
could
they
would
have
to
go
based
on.
What's
on
this
side,
you
know
how
the
constant
position
I
mean.
This
is
ultimately
what
they
like
to
have
for
plugging,
but
you
like
to
have
cash
work,
but
to
give
you
an
idea,
the
entire
United
States
they
get
like
25,
000
and
I
paid
a
year,
or
so
we
don't
expect
they're
hoping
down
the
road
to
go
to
that
size.
But
right
now
we
don't
expect
that
many,
because
they
don't
make
that
money.
They're.
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A
A
A
D
A
Okay,
the
next
one
in
front
of
us
is
20:
oh
20,
20,
2307,
4345,
Blossom,
Street,
43,
Blossom
Street
development
for
special
permit
and
variance
seeking
approval
to
renovate
the
existing
four-family
structure,
containing
a
total
of
12
bedrooms
and
for
the
reconfiguration
of
space,
including
a
third
floor
Edition.
In
order
to
establish
a
sixth
dwelling
unit
structure
containing
a
total
of
12
bedrooms,
which
does
not
meet
the
minimum
requirements
for
front
and
yard
front
yard
setback
ostrich
parking
spaces
lot,
size
and
side
street
setback.
This
was
deferred
to
this
month.
B
Did
and
planning
board
recommended
affordable
with
standard
conditions,
as
applicable
designer
view,
a
landscaping
plan
exterior
lighting
plan
complying
with
International
doc,
Sky
standards,
good
quality,
opaque
fence
along
the
frontage
at
the
existing
parking
space.
One,
a
good
oil
pick
fence
along
the
Westerly
crop
line,
November
Lisa
sublease
for
less
than
12
months,
tenants
of
the
building
ineligible
to
participate
in
the
city's
president's
ticket
parking
program.
All
precautions
taken
to
preserve
the
street
tree
and
if
that
street
tree
is
damaged,
we
place
it
and
petitioner
will
provide
for
a
white
move.
A
H
Anthony
Washington
I
do
have
my
client
here.
I
also
have
the
architecture
costume
design
also
exercise
those
conditions.
Those
are
conditions
that
we
understood
it
on
and
I
agree
to
commit
to
on
the
property
and
if
I
may
talk
about
a
little
bit
with
truth,
this
is
another
project
that
we
work
hand-in-hand
with
the
city
to
make
sure
it's.
This
is
something
that
the
city
wanted
to
see
and
get
done.
H
It
was
the
first
year
there
was
a
few
neighbors
there
that
concerns
regarding
the
structure
itself
and
the
the
prior
use.
My
this,
this
property
was
had
a
fire
on
it
and
it
was
pretty
bad
in
the
charade
and
basically
my
clients
are
taking
the
existing
building
guiding
the
building
entirely,
and
this
property
is
in
Funtime,
so
I'm.
H
Yeah,
so
this
is
how
it
looks
so
essentially
and
then
there's
decks
in
the
rear
and
in
front
so
see
how
this
is
set
up
like
this.
These
two
beautiful
you
know
domers
like
that.
The
third
floor
is
exactly
match
that,
so
this
is
going
to
be
gone.
It's
going
to
mirror
this
and
then
there's
red
Decks
that
you
see
here.
Those
are
going
to
be
popped
up.
These
are
very
nice
here,
so
there's
two
Dome
between
each
side
see
one
here
and
one
here,
big
big
ones.
H
H
The
building
now
will
be
a
stripper
building
fire
alarm,
building
through
the
civilization
and
in
the
trunk,
can
you
show
them
the
new
elevation
shot
neons,
and
this
is
actually
how
they
stay
straight
off
the
building
yes
and
sort
of
mirroring
the
other
two
fours
get
rid
of
the
next
front,
get
rid
of
the
decks
of
that
and
and
less
square
footage
of
living
states
than
what's.
Currently
there,
but
instead
of
having
three
four
bedroom
large
units
that
are
filled
with
multiple,
multiple
people.
Now
these
will
be
two
bedroom
units
for
six
people.
H
You
know
same
amount
of
members,
but
a
better
use
and
now
you're
not
going
to
have
fun
with
people
in
the
rear
front
of
the
building
and
we're
still
keeping
the
green
space
for
the
enclosing
trash
receptacles
in
the
back.
We're
going
to
be
doing
all
the
fencing
that
the
planning
board
recommended
on
the
property
and
all
those
conditions
and
it's
different
and
we're
getting
beautify
actually
the
building
by
decreasing
the
square
footage
and
the
only
variance
to
be
inside
wall
two
if
they
go
hand
in
hand.
H
All
go
into
first
of
all,
the
time
got
set
back
is
already
a
pre-existing
condition.
We're
not
increasing
this
I
got
set
back,
that's
what
the
setback
is
now
on
the
property.
So
does
that
mean
you
can
do
that?
That's
what
the
existing
structures
as
far
as
the
lighting
area
is
the
minimum
per
unit.
The
winning
company
is
now.
It's
still
not
comply.
H
H
D
H
D
H
I
think
what
you
know
confined
to
buy
the
property
and
how
it
was
used
for
years
is
different
and
I
think
the
city
was
trying
to
steer
away
from
me.
I
can't
speak
like
multiple,
multiple
people
living
in
these.
It
was
a
lot
you
know,
New
Orleans,
being
locked
with
renting
rooms,
which
is
why
the
redesign
happens
to
be
something
consistent
to
get
away
from
that.
So
it
doesn't
happen
again
because
they're
not
big
enough
to
happen
again
and.
D
D
M
A
A
P
My
name
is
Maureen
Lee
and
I
live
across
the
street
I
bought.
You
took
off
some
strengths
across
the
street
and
when
I,
when
I
first
moved
there,
the
tenants
that
lived
there
were
terrible
I
want
to
tell
you
the
trash
when
they
brought
the
trash
out
was
all
over
the
place,
so
they
didn't
care
they
blasted
their
music
and
doing
all
this
crazy
stuff.
Now,
in
the
back
of
the
building
I
found
out
when
they
had
porches,
they
were
having
cookouts
and
the
planes
from
the
from
the
arms
the
Flames
from
there
yeah.
H
P
H
By
getting
rid
of
these
large
units,
they
have
multiple
people
renting
rooms
right,
you
know.
An
average
apartment
could
have
four
cows
because
they're
renting
individual
rooms-
and
then
that's
not
going
to
happen
here
because
we're
making
them
into
brand
new
through
better.
You
know
nice
brand
new
unit,
okay,
that
sounds.
A
Is
there
anyone
else
here
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
there
being
none
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
participation
portion
of
this?
We
still
have
to
go
through
the
variance
issues.
So
let's
do
that
one
at
a
time
and
then
John
do
you
evidence
to
say
before
we
go
through
that
and
then
from
the
board
from
the
Department.
Sorry.
H
F
H
So
there
are
many
buildings
of
this
type
of
image
in
the
area,
so
it's
not
inconsistent
with
the
zoning
and
since
this
was
a
pre-existing
building
that
was
already
previously
non-conforming.
That
would
attribute
variances
today,
even
as
it
is
there's
nothing
we
can
do
to
to
to
change
that,
based
on
the
current
existing
shape
and
structure.
That's
existing
in
topography,
that's
on
site.
I
would
note
that
this
is
in
a
flood
zone,
so
you
couldn't
even
reposition
it
so
quick
the
units
as
duplexes
in
the
basement,
because
it
would
violate
the
flood
zone
ordinance.
H
Which
would
be
a
financial
hardship
but
the
actual
building
itself
to
be
compliant?
Even
if
today's
standards
you'd
have
to
rip
half
the
building
down,
because
it
goes
by
a
lot
of
sizing
on
units.
So
when
the
building
was
originally
built,
those
would
it
was
complying
with
the
previous
owning
it
would
be
complying
with
today's.
H
A
P
H
This
is
probably
the
easiest
one
to
explain,
because
this
is
actually
bending
the
public
we're
getting
rid
of
images.
What
caused
fires
in
the
past
identity
decks
while
living
in
the
amount
of
square
footage
in
the
building
that
what
was
existing
were
now
beautifying,
the
building
which
is
not
detrimental
to
the
neighborhood.
It's
actually
better
for
the
neighborhood
and
now
we're
by
by
a
muscle
which
we
haven't
talked
about
before,
but
we're
putting
a
Caltech
system
in
here
too
for
drinking.
H
So
there's
nothing
now
everything
flows
and
floods,
the
area,
so
this
will
actually
create
a
drenched
apocalypse.
So
we
don't
have
to
build
up
of
ice
and
snow,
so
the
actual
designing
Which
is
far
better
than
what
is
existing.
So
it
certainly
going
to
be
detrimental.
It's
actually
a
benefit
to
what's
in
the
neighborhood.
A
H
A
hot
wide
parallel
that
didn't
exists
and
now
also
a
drainage
that
they
exist
and
forget
about
them.
Limiting
the
beautification
of
a
structure
that
was
designed
years
ago,
it
looks
like
it
was
probably
older.
The
numbers
in
the
faction
that
wasn't
considering
design
review
by
any
standards
in
the
city
of
Chelsea.
A
A
R
G
N
A
You're
welcome
to
stay
as
long
as
you
want,
but
you
don't
have
to
okay,
so
you're
welcome
to
stay
as
long
as
you
like
it
just
want
to.
Let
you
know
okay,
so
this
so
we're
going
to
take
these
together
in
conversation,
but
we
will
vote
on
them,
including
each
variance
issues
separately,
okay,
but
we
have
to
understand
that
they're
inextricably
linked
Hugo
will
not
be
participating
in
this
now
I
do
a
health
difference.
A
And
so
we're
going
so,
let's
start
first
with
well
I'm
going
to
read
them
both
together,
we're
going
to
recognize
that
we'll
hear
how
they
look
and
don't
they
are
addressed
collectively:
8385
Library
Street,
which
is
20
2309
for
special
permit
and
variance
seeking
approval
for
the
subdivision
and
the
complete
and
the
construction
of
two
two.
Two
two
residential
dwelling
units
which
do
not
meet
the
existing
requirements
for
minimum
lot,
size
yard,
size
setbacks
and
combined
side
yard
setback.
A
Existing
residence
lot
fails
to
meet
requirements
for
minimum
lot
size
setback
and
combine
required
side
yards
setback
lot.
A
83
Library
Street
fails
to
meet
the
requirements
for
minimum
lot,
size,
front,
yard,
setback,
side,
yard,
setback
off
street
parking
and
minimum
usable
open
space.
Lot
B,
85,
Library
Street
fails
to
meet
the
requirements
for
minimum
lot,
size,
front
yard,
setback,
side,
yard
setback,
off-street
parking
and
minimum
usable
open
space.
A
Now
I'm
going
to
read
81
Library,
hopefully
more
cohere,
83,
20,
23
1381
libraries
too,
for
special
permit
and
variants
to
be
the
approval
for
the
subdivision
of
an
existing
lot
to
allow
for
the
construction
of
two
two
residential
dwelling
unit.
Rest
structures
at
83.85
library,
the
proposed
subdivision
at
81
Library,
does
not
meet
the
requirements
for
minimum
side,
yard
setback
and
combined
side
yard.
Second,
existing
residence
law
fails
to
meet
requirements
for
minimum
lot
size,
slide,
yard
setback
and
combined
required
side
yard
setback.
N
Yes,
yes,
thank
you
and
good
evening,
Madam,
chair
and
three
of
the
members
of
the
port.
For
the
record,
my
name
is
Richard
Linz
I'm,
an
attorney
with
the
business
address
of
245
Sumner
Street
Boston
on
behalf
of
the
petitioner
to
my
right
is
Maria,
takes
Harris
she's,
the
owner
of
the
real
property
that
is
before
the
board
this
evening.
I
think
we
can
go
out
of
order
John,
if
possible,
to
jump
to
slide
two
three
four
five.
N
D
N
N
Common
ownership,
because
these
Bots
are
held
in
common
ownership
and
because
81
Library
Street
does
not
currently
conform
to
the
Chelsea
zoning
code
respects
the
dimension
that
results
in
what
we
call
the
refer
to
show
this
board
asserted
for
one
merger
and
because
these
are
in
common
ownership.
The.
R
N
Is
considered
one
lot
for
purposes
of
selling
it,
so
all
of
the
lots
that
we're
talking
about
or
two
of
the
lots
that
we're
talking
about
are
considered
for
all
types
of
purposes.
A
single
lot,
therefore,
when
we
propose
to
create
the
proposed
structures
that
we're
talking
about
that
are
before
the
board
that
triggers
a
whole
host
of
issues.
N
First
and
foremost,
is
that
any
use
of
the
lot,
even
though
it's
separately
assessed
at
68,
would
essentially
require
us
to
sever
that
from
81
Library
Street
and
as
a
result,
that
creates
a
number
of
the
non-conformities
that
are
before
the
board
for
81
Library
I'm.
Trying
to
take
these
in
order.
So
A1
library
has
a
few
non-conforms,
including
your
side,
yard
setback,
your
minimum
lot,
size,
Etc
and,
as
a
result,
we
would
require
relief
just
to
create
a
separate
lot
in
and
of
itself
to
allow
for
the
proposed
development.
N
D
N
A
N
B
F
N
N
So,
with
respect
to
81,
we
aren't
again
for
the
board
for
the
clarification
of
the
record,
we're
not
proposing
any
change
to
81..
There's
no
work
being
proposed.
There's
no
modification
of
the
existing
building,
it
will
remain
exactly
as
it
is
in
the
assessed.
Parcel
will
remain
exactly
as
it
is,
however,
because
we
do
propose
to
developed
a
lot
to
the
left.
We
do
have
to
deal
with
that
merger
issue.
So,
with
respect
to
the
zoning
issues
that
involved
a
minimum
lot
size
required
is
5
000
square
feet.
This
lot
is
2100
square
feet.
N
It's
always
been
2100
square
feet,
but
again
because
it's
in
common
ownership,
it
does
require
relief
for
the
minimum
lot
size
since
that
that
lot
to
the
left
is
being
used
essentially
to
meet
that
5
000
square
feet.
Presently,
with
respect
to
the
side
you
had
setback,
our
proposed
setback
is
our
required.
Setback
is
five
feet.
The
narrowest
or
the
shallowest
setback
was
2.3
feet
and
therefore
variance
is
required
and
again,
if.
F
N
And
then
the
side
yard
aggregate
with
and
again
this
involves
not
only
the
existing
conditions
and
we're
not
moving
our
building
any
closer
we're
making
a
lot
of
these
smaller,
but
because
we
are
essentially
now
making
a
new
lot.
We
are
required
to
comply
with
all
the
requirements
required,
Zone
and
so
therefore
the
12
foot
that's
required
for
the
aggregate
side
gets
setback
would
only
be
four
feet
and
therefore
variance
would
be
necessary
so
that
those
are
the
items
that
are.
A
A
A
N
S
B
Because
a
lot
81
by
itself
is
to
fish
in
a
lot
area.
Theoretically,
they
could
see
the
population
could
use
the
8385
to
make
up
some
of
that
audio
because
it's
deficient
in
so
I
got
set
back
theoretical.
She
could
use
8285
to
make
up
some
of
that,
but
since
they're
two
separate
the
two
Seventeen
Lots,
it
makes
natural
to
divide
it
along
that
on
that
property.
A
F
B
B
A
A
N
E
M
F
B
A
M
G
A
N
N
Somebody
if
they
weren't
as
diligent
in
reviewing
that,
might
purchase
this
a
lot
separately.
She
could
do
that,
but
if
they
went
to
see
John
to
build
on,
John
would
say
well,
I,
don't
know
how
you
could
do
that,
because
I
was
merged
with
this
lock
when
it
came
in
front
ownership.
So
that's
sort
of
the
tricky
part
of
it.
Oh
yeah,
so
we
need
to
separately.
Does.
N
So
I'm
going
to
start
with
the
unique
property
circumstances,
so
this
property
has
unique
characteristics
that
create
a
substantial
hardship
if
strict
adherence
to
the
zoning
code
is
required.
This
property
involves
with
the
owner,
otherwise
believe
we're
separate
Lots
but
which
were
merged
through
common
ownership.
As
we
just
discussed,
the
lots
are
relatively
shallow
but
contain
sufficient
width
to
accommodate
structures
similar
in
size
and
scale.
The
surrounding
neighborhood.
The
violations
that
are
created
with
respect
to
81
Library
are
pre-existing
side
yard
and
lot
sizes.
N
N
Same
same
comments,
I've
just
made
recently
but
I'll-
add
that
this
proposed
project
is
compatible,
or
at
least
the
maintaining
of
the
existing
structure
on
a
21
square
foot
lot
is
compatible
with
the
existing
neighborhood
character
includes
similar
size
structures
and
similar
sized
Lots
we're
not
there
yet
I'm.
Sorry,
financial.
N
A
N
Yeah,
so
a
couple
of
issues
on
it,
so
it's
compatible
with
the
existing
characters
surrounding
neighborhood,
similar
sized
lots
and
thin
line
with
the
prevailing
land
use
patterns
in
the
area.
The
proposed
project
would
not
be
detrimental
to
the
public
good,
as
it
does
provide
an
opportunity
and
we'll
get
to
that
for
additional
housing,
as
well
as
the
opportunity
to
maintain
the.
N
Sure
and
these
the
variances
can
be
granted
without
nullifying
or
substantially
delegating
for
the
purpose
and
Tech
of
the
code,
because
the
existing
structure
sitting
on
a
2100
square
foot
lot
have
they
been
in
separate
ownership
as
they
had
been
previously.
It
would
be
the
exact
same
scenario
to
have
a
2100
square
foot
lot
of
the
existing
single
family
house.
R
F
A
N
Thank
you
for
the
record,
because
it's
new
cases
again
thank
you
and
good
evening.
Madam,
chairman
of
the
board
Richard
Lynn's
245
Sumner
Street
East
Boston,
on
behalf
of
the
petitioner
Maria
text,
Sarah
who's
with
us
as
well.
This
is
involving
the
proposal
now
for
8385,
Library,
Street
I
think
if
we
could
jump
to
maybe
the
next
Slide
John.
That
would
be
helpful.
So
the
layout.
N
G
N
We'll
start
here
and
then
we
can
sort
of
Bounce
Around.
So
this
proposal
involves
the
now
newly
subdivided
6700
square
foot
lot
located
83
times
live
industry.
Our
proposal
would
construct
two
separate
two
unit
buildings.
These
are
designed
as
townhouse
buildings.
There
would
be
three
stories
they
would
contain.
Three.
N
And
three
bathrooms
I
believe
each
other
with
me.
One
second,
we've
got
two
separate
students
have
yeah
three
three
units,
three
bedrooms
with
two
and
a
half
bath
units
and
unfinished
basement.
Each
of
these
units
would
have
two
parking
spaces.
Those
parking
spaces
would
be
accessed
from
a
common
driveway
between
the
two
buildings
and
they
would
be
parked
and
arranged
as
tandem
parking
spaces
behind
each
of
the
buildings.
The
tandem
spaces
would
allow
for
individual
unit
owners
to
access
both
of
their
vehicles.
N
It
does
require
some
Maneuvers,
but
each
unit
owner
would
have
access
to
two
tandem
spaces
per
unit,
as
Ms
txterra
intends
to
have
family
occupy
these
units.
These
are
intended
for
her
for
her
immediate
family
to
own
and
occupy
in
the
future.
We
don't
anticipate
that
that
would
present
any
issue
with
the
tandem
parking,
because
again
these
would
be
assigned
to
individual
units
and
would
not
require
any
other
units
to
have
to
move
their
car
to
allow
somebody
else
to
move
the.
N
Driveway
up
the
middle
allows
for
at
least
a
10
foot
minimum
with
24
foot
separation
between
the
spaces,
so
there
is
sufficient
room
for
any
of
those
vehicles
to
maneuver
in
and
out
of
the
parking
spaces
that
that
they
would
be
occupying.
As
you
can
see,
we
do
incorporate
a
good
amount
of
landscaping
around
the
property
on
both
the
side
yards,
which
are
set
back
at
about
five
feet.
A
little
over
five
feet.
We
do
have
buffering
along
the
rear.
N
N
Yes,
so
I
know
this
came
up
at
the
preliminary
hearing
as
well,
so
the
it's
likely
that
this
will
be
arranged
as
one
condo
project,
so
you'll
have
four
units
in
one
condominium,
even
though
they
may
be
on
separate
lots.
That
doesn't
necessarily
mean
they
can't
be
all
under
one
Condominium
Association.
Within
that
Association
document
you
would
have
shared
maintenance
of
the
easement
so
that
that
way
there
it
continues
in
perpetuity,
whatever
management
or
management
company
handles
any
of
the
management
on
the
site
would
be
able
to
handle
all
of
the
snow
removal
maintenance.
N
In
perpetuity
correct
so
as
part
of
those
condo
docs,
that
is
what
we
recorded
as
part
of
that
site
plan.
So
yeah
every
each
building
would
have
access
to
the
parking
area.
So
if
we
can
go
through
the
I
think
the
elevation
job
just
so,
we
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
next
slide.
So
this
is
just
the
architect's
proposed,
rendering
showing
you
know
the
concept
and
we
feel
I.
G
N
F
N
N
Around
20
100
square
feet,
terabytes
yeah,
so
for
habitable
level,
space
about
700
square
feet
per
level,
yeah,
as
I
said,
the
basement
is
unfinished,
so
that
would
be
limited
for
storage
and
we
can
also
handle
some
trash
storage
as
well,
if
necessary,
within
within
the
building.
So
that
does
not
need
to
be
outside.
N
G
U
N
Basement
plan
the
first
floor
plan
is
to
the
upper
right.
You
have
living
area,
half
bath
entrance
way
and
stairwell
with
a
entrance
for
air
when
you
go
up
to
the
second
level,
is
the
lower
left
side?
You
have
your
bedroom,
wash
washer
dryer
Road
laundry
room
a
full
bath,
and
then
we
have,
on
the
third
level
additional
the
additional
bedroom
with
the
full
Master
Suite
walk-in
closet
Etc.
So
these
are
designed
and
intended
to
be
family
size
units.
N
E
B
Attendance
of
the
building
I
mean
ineligible
the
perfectness
if
it
doesn't
stick
a
parking
program,
stormwater
maintenance
plan,
a
landscaping
plan,
exterior
lighting
playing
compliant
manufactured
back
Sky
standards
and
the
department
wishes
to
add,
assign
each
set
attendance
spaces
to
specific
units
and
no
lease
or
rent
a
period
for
less
than
12
months.
You
comfortable
with
those.
F
N
I
know,
there's
been
some
conversations
with
the
aboutter
directly
of
the
year.
I
know,
there's
a
question
about
the
retaining
wall
we've
had
conversations
about
who
would
handle
that,
based
upon
the
fact
that
we
are
doing
the
construction
on
the
site?
My
client
is
prepared
to
take
on
that
responsibility
of
taking
ownership
for
any
new
retaining
wallets
we
put
in
so
that
should
be
a
substantial
benefit
to
the
butter
to
the
Mirror.
N
As
soon
as
possible,
I
I
would
expect
just
based
upon
where
we
are
in
the
process.
We
probably
have
a
good,
maybe
three
to
four
months
of
final
construction,
drawing
permitting
assuming
it's
approved,
we'll
take
it
out
for
construction
financing,
so
I
mean
we'd
like
to
potentially
break
ground
late
fall,
but
it
could.
It
could
slip
to
the
spring,
depending
on
what
the
weather
looks
like.
M
N
Yeah,
so
they
would
be
for
purpose
of
ownership
each
unit
each
townhouse
will
be
separately
owned.
Even
though
they'd
be
part
of
one
Association.
They
would
have
technically
a
unit
deed,
because
that
way
you
can
sort
of
control,
not
only
you
know
the
cost
of
Maintenance
appearance
of
the
building
overall,
just
sort
of
management
of
the
property
itself.
We
would
have
them
as
separate
condo
units.
They
would
all
pay
a
separate
condo
fee
to
help
pay
for
that
Collective
management,
but.
A
N
Yeah
with
an
arrangement
like
this,
it
makes
better
sense
to
have
a
condo,
because
you
have
a
couple
of
things
that
you
can
have
some
cost
savings
on,
including
maintenance
at
the
roof.
You
have
a
common
roof,
faster
insurance
for
the
entire
site,
Landscaping
common
maintenance
for
that
driveway
that
Paving
all
of
that
will
be
under
one
umbrella.
So
it
makes
a
lot
more
sense
to
manage.
Even
you
know,
even
if
it's
at
some
point
this
text,
here's
children
decide
to
move
on.
A
F
F
A
N
Again,
this
property
does
have
unique
characteristics
that
create
a
substantial
hardship
to
strict
compliance
and
strict
adherence
to
the
zoning
code
is
required.
As
I
stated
previously,
this
property
does
involve,
but
the
owner
understood
to
be
two
separate
lots
that
this
would
have
been
a
developable
lot.
Had
it
been
separately
separately
owned,
they
are
relatively
shallow,
they
do,
but
they
do
contain
sufficient
width
to
accommodate
the
structures
we're
proposing
and
they
are
again
also
able
to
accommodate
the
parking
that's
required
in
the
Chelsea
zoning
code.
N
N
That's
correct
the
violations
created
by
the
proposed
new
structures
involved
existing
Lots,
which
would
be
similar
in
size
to
the
depth
of
the
surrounding
context.
The
front
yard
would
be
consistent
with
the
existing
alignments.
Even
though
variance
is
necessary
and
the
side
yards
would
be
sufficient
distance
from
existing
structures,
including
the
structure
located
81
Library,
which
is
owned
by
the
applicant.
A
E
N
So
again,
the
proposed
project
is
compatible
with
the
existing
neighborhood
context,
which
includes
similar
size
structures
on
similar
size
Lots.
It's
in
line
with
the
prevailing
land
use
patterns
in
the
area.
The
proposed
project
would
not
be
detritable
public
good,
as
it
does
provide
additional
housing
for
the
city
of
Chelsea,
a
goal
which
is
necessitated
by
The
increased
demand
for
housing
throughout.
A
N
The
requested
variants
can
be
granted
without
nullifying
or
substantially
degradating
for
the
purpose
intent
of
the
code,
because
allowing
construction
of
four
Towners
dwellings
on
separate
Lots
isn't
allowed
use
in
the
district.
It
aligns
with
the
broader
goals
and
objectives
of
zoning
regulations
such
as
promoting
diverse
housing
options,
efficient
land
use
and
supporting
sustainable
development.
In
addition,
the
requested
variance
is
either
minimum
necessary
to
alleviate
the
hardship
that
has
been
discussed.
F
A
N
P
A
This
is
2023-10
122,
Warren,
Ave,
122,
Warren,
VG
LLC
for
special
permit
and
variance
seeking
the
approval
for
the
construction
of
a
two-family
dwelling
within
122
Warren
Ave,
with
an
existing
three
family
dwelling
to
remain
within
proposed
subdivided
lot.
Pursuant
to
section
34-78a
no
lot
on
which
a
building
existed,
existing
or
erected
shall
be
altered
and
those
structures
shall
be
arraigned
rearranged
so
as
to
create
or
increase
a
non-conformance.
A
With
this
ordinance
lot,
one
proposed
subdivided
lot
to
contain
a
proposed
two-family
structure
which
fails
to
meet
the
requirements
for
minimum
Frontage,
minimum
yard
setback,
minimum
combined
yard
setback,
minimum
number
of
stories,
maximum
height
and
required
parking
space
property
line.
Buffer
Lot
2
proposed
subdivide
the
lot
to
contain
existing
three
family
structure
which
fails
to
meet
the
requirements
for
minimum
Frontage,
minimum
side,
yard
setback,
minimum
loss,
side,
minimum
open
space
and
minimum
combined
side
yard
setback
John.
This
went
to
the
planning
board.
What
did
they
have
to
say.
F
A
N
We
have
some
updates
to
the
plans
like
I,
think
the
probably
the
best
place
to
start
I'll
put
my
name
on
the
record
for
this
project.
My
name
is
Richard
Linz
I'm,
an
attorney
with
an
address
of
245
Summer
Street
in
East
Boston,
on
behalf
of
the
petitioner
before
the
board.
If
we
could
jump
down
to
the
landscape
plan
John,
that's
probably
the
first
place
to
start
just
to
refresh
the
board's
recollection
on
this
matter.
This
is
a
pre-existing
three
unit
dwelling
that's
currently
sitting
on
a
little
over
15
000
square
feet.
N
Our
proposal
would
subdivide
the
lot
and
erect
a
new
two
unit
dwelling
on
the
subdivided
portion
of
the
lot.
We
are
proposing
a
total
of
four
parking
spaces
in
connection
with
the
proposed
new
two
unit
dwelling
and
we're
also
proposing
to
add
three
parking
spaces
which
do
not
presently
exist
to
be
utilized
by
the
existing
three
unit
dwelling.
We
we
would
maintain
and
preserve
that
existing
300
Duality,
which
is
currently
occupied,
there's
no
displacement
intended
with
respect
to
the
existing
structure
that
will
remain
as
a
rental
structure,
a
rental
property.
N
As
I
said,
we
will
be
adding
three
parking
spaces
which
will
be
Associated
specifically
with
that
building
and
available
to
those
tenants.
In
addition,
this
project
again,
the
board,
may
recall
when
we
presented
this
initially.
This
project
involves
a
substantial
undertaking
for
on-site
storm
water
management.
This
is
an
issue,
and
the
board
may
remember
this-
that
we
were
before
the
board
more
than
a
year
ago
with
respect
to
this
project.
N
A
lot
of
the
concerns
that
we
did
here
relative
to
this
property
was
the
amount
of
storm
water
that
runs
off
the
property
into
properties
of
the
rear.
There
was
a
significant
concern
over
what
that
may
involve
with
respect
to
any
construction
on
the
site.
My
client,
in
going
through
that
process
was
asked
to
consider,
are
looking
at
coming
up
with
a
plan
or
strategy
for
stormwater
management,
hired
RJ
O'connell,
a
very
reputable
engineering
civil
engineering
firm
that
came
up
with
a
plan
that
we
did
review
with
the
planning
board
as
well.
N
Unfortunately,
the
planning
board
decided
that
it
wasn't
appropriate
and
therefore
recommended
not
approving
this
project.
I
think
there
are
other
factors
at
hand
as
to
why
they
denied
it.
However,
we
feel
that
this
project
has
advanced
significantly
based
upon
where
we
were
originally
with
this
more
than
a
year
ago.
How.
N
Tank
itself,
I
think
that
we
have
a
narrative
that
we
provided
to
the
to
the
planning
department
as
well
I
apologize
I,
don't
have
the
specific
technical
but
I'm
happy
to
share
this
with
the
board.
This
is
a
quick
narrative,
that's
prepared
by
our
engineer
that
discusses
the
mechanics
of
the
retention
and
how
it
all
works.
I.
N
My
understanding
and
I'm
not
the
engineer,
I
apologize,
but
my
understanding
is
that
the
this
is
a
redundant
system
where
you
have
the
initial
tank,
which
will
be
sufficient
for
the
site.
I
don't
have
the
exact
cubic
volume,
but
there
is
sufficient
enough
retention
for
the
site
and
then
there's
additional
layers
that
would
actually
allow
for
if
there
was
any
overflow
to
go
into
other
another
system
that
would
prevent
it
from
running
off
into
the
property
is.
N
A
I
mean
I'm,
just
you
know
one
of
the
concerns
we've
heard
from
the
neighbors
I
I,
don't
understand
how
this
stuff
works.
That's
why
I'm
asking
so
you've
got
save
the
thousand
dollars
a
thousand
gallons
and
I
and
I
say
this
only
because
I'm,
just
at
my
mother's
house
and
I
had
to
have
the
Cesspool
button
and
I
know
when
it
reaches
a
certain
point.
You've
got
to
have
it
pumped
out.
It
just
doesn't
disappear
on
its
own.
So.
A
N
So
my
understanding
is
the
retention,
the
concept
of
the
retention,
so
you
have
to
take
into
consideration
what
exists.
Presently,
presidents
have
runoff
so
right
now
you
have
you
know
pervious
material,
ground,
soil
Etc,
where
all
that
storm
water
or
any
of
that
runoff
from
the
site,
is
just
going
wherever
it
goes,
and
it's
going
to
go
at
the
lowest
point,
which
is
typically
the
property
behind
us.
N
I
N
It's
intended
to
be
a
slow
release
system
that
mitigates
and
prevents
the
runoff
from
actually
positive
problems
on
agility
properties.
So
these
are
pretty
common
systems.
They
have
they're
used.
You
know
regularly
throughout
residential
construction,
so
we've
asked
again
RJ
O'connell
to
look
at
that
and
to
prepare
that
in
a
way
that
satisfied
the
concerns
or
the
issues
that
we
would
deal
with,
I
I
would
point
out
that
we've
made
this
comment
in
other
hearings
as
well.
N
You
know
the
no
action
alternative
leaves
the
current
situation,
as
is
we've
heard,
numerous
complaints
that
there
is
runoff
currently
from
this
site
and
no
improvement,
doesn't
you
know,
doesn't
solve
any
problems,
so
at
least
with
this
system.
That's
that's
done.
In
conjunction
with
the
development,
you
would
have
an
improvement
over
the
current
conditions
of
what
is
occurring
at
the
lower
points
of
the
site
and
the
properties
that
are
located
behind
it.
Okay,.
N
It's
like
my
unders,
my
limited
understanding
of
how
the
retention
system
works
is
that
it
slows
the
crawl,
if
you
will,
of
the
water
releasing
into
other
properties
or
other
soil,
and
therefore
it
mitigates
the
effects
of
what
so,
with
respect
to
the
proposed
site.
I
think
we're
at
the
landscape
Cloud.
You
can
see
here
the
new
structure
we've
located
out
to
the
left
side.
We
do
have
the
divided
property
line
for
the
subdivision.
N
The
driveway
would
be
located
completely
within
the
boundary
of
the
new
lot
it
would
have
access
to,
as
I
mentioned,
the
three
parking
spaces
to
the
rear,
the
existing
three-family
dwelling
and
there's
a
four
parking
space
that
we
associate.
The
tuna
dwelling
that's
being
proposed
again.
I
will
reiterate
that
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
we
did
here
when
this
project
was
initially
presented
as
well
as
most
recently
is
that
parking
is
a
problem
in
that
area.
N
We
feel
that
this
project
actually
addresses
not
only
the
existing
problem,
because
you
do
have
a
three
family
dwelling
that
has
no
parking,
that
we
would
be
adding
parking
to
that,
but
also
does
no
further
harm
with
respect
to
the
proposed
to
unit
dwelling,
because
we
are
providing
a
total
of
four
parking
spaces
during
the
planning
board.
Here
we
heard
a
lot
of
speculation
about
this
plan.
I
would
submit
that
nobody
has
presented
anything
to
question
whether
this
plan
works.
N
A
N
All
again,
all
addressed
based
upon
what
the
requirements
are
for
slope
for
driveways
like
this,
for
residential
use
and
how
to
access
the
back
of
the
property
that
it
would
be
appropriate
in
the
building
code
that
it
would
not
have
a
slope
that
would
create
any
Hazard.
We
do
and,
as
you
can
see
identified
here
on
the
landscape
plan,
a
number
of
bollards
that
aren't
included
as
well,
because
we
do
have
retaining
walls
that
are
located
to
the
rear
portion
of
the
property,
and
that
is
not
only
to
accommodate
the
parking
area.
N
N
A
N
My
understanding
is
that
the
retaining
wall
height
I
believe
it
was
originally
looked
at.
It
was
a
pretty
steep
height
I
think
it
was
over
eight
feet.
They've
now
modified
that
to
step
it
down.
So
I
think
there
are
I
believe
it
was
a
three
and
a
four
foot
retaining
wall
step
Terrace.
So
it
provides
the
same
amount
of
retention,
but
done
in
the
design.
That's
a
little
bit
different.
N
So,
with
respect,
as
you
can
see,
with
respect
to
the
home,
that's
being
proposed
with
a
rear
deck,
it
is
set
back
and
there
is
a
good
amount
of
landscaping
that
is
preserved
on
the
site,
but
also
additional
differentiator.
That
would
be
added.
There
was
some
concern
about
trees
being
removed.
As
you
can
see,
the
lower
portion
of
the
back
portion
of
the
property
retains
a
number
of
the
trees,
where
there'll
be
additional
plantings
that
we
will
include
incorporate
into
the
into
the
projects.
If
we
want
to
jump
over
to
the
rendering.
N
N
N
That
building
would
probably
also
sit
at
about
four
stories
to
the
rear,
and
one
of
the
reasons
is
obviously
the
great
separation
from
the
sidewalk
level
down
to
the
rear
portion
of
the
property
and
that's
one
of
the
barriers
that
we
are
requesting,
but,
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
yeah.
This
is
a
two
and
a
half
story
building,
as
viewed
from
the
sidewalk
and
certainly
taller
when
looked
at
from
the
rear,
based
upon
the
actual
slope
of
the
property,
we
do
have
the
floor.
N
N
N
F
F
B
N
So
from
the
elevation
standpoint,
we
have
you
see
the
front
of
the
building
here
as
we
use
the
sidewalk
level,
but
then
you
can
see
the
profile
and
the
right
side
elevation
that
you
do
have
that
slope,
going
down
towards
the
back
of
the
property
with
a
full
ceiling
height
basement,
that's
part
of
the
first
unit,
so
each
of
these
units
will
be
bi-level.
You'd
have
a.
N
All
all
the
levels
but
unit
one
would
have
the
lowest
level
at
the
base,
but
the
first
level
and
unit
two
would
have
the
second
level
and
the
upper
level
where
that
Dormer
roof
appears,
we
do
have
rear
decks
to
the
rear
of
the
property
as
well.
If
we
want
to
jump
to
the
floor
plan
John,
we
can
just
walk
through
that.
N
N
So,
on
the
floor
plan
I
know
there's
a
question
in
the
planning
memo
about
the
size
of
the
units
that
I
can
put
on
the
record
and
confirm
what
size
the
units
are.
I
think
it
was
a
labeling
error,
so
we
had
I
believe
he
says
four
bed
three
bath
on
this
unit,
but
I
don't
believe
that
that's
I
think
this
is
a
three
bed
three
bed
three
bath.
N
So
we
have
two
bedrooms:
this
lower
portion
of
the
property
with
a
playroom-
and
you
see
the
bathrooms
here
in
a
closet,
so
I
got
a
full
bath
and
a
half
is
a
half
bath
up
top,
and
then
we
have
the
two
bedrooms
closer
to
the
bottom,
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
And
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
you
can
see
the
layout
for
the
upper
level.
We
have
a
portion
of
our
level
so.
B
N
N
And
a
door
you
have
okay,
so
I
I
was
looking
at
it.
I
didn't
I,
didn't
I,
couldn't
make
it
off
of
my
plan.
Okay,
so
that
is
then
he
has
that
label
Department
four
bedroom
three
bath
yeah,
and
if
you
go
up
to
the
first
level
plan,
we
have
the
other
bedroom,
the
upper
right
corner
and
then
the
living
area
and
the
back.
And
then
we
go
to
set
the
second
level
plan.
N
N
P
N
N
I
know
that's
not
necessarily
the
zoning
issue,
but
just
to
add
that
in
and
again
as
I
mentioned,
we
are
including
the
three
parking
spaces
that
we
associate
with
three
unit
dwelling
and
available
to
those
tenants
in
that
building.
Only
and
not
associated
with
the
two
units
that
are
that
are
being
proposed.
E
So,
regarding
the
parking
back
to
the
parking,
so
I
know
that
there's
a
school
to
go
down
to
the
parking
area,
it's
the
parking
area
itself
on
a
slope
or
is
it
flat
flat
it's
flat
and
then
I
saw
that
there's
like
no
stairs
where
people
basically
they
park
there.
They
have
to
kind
of
like
go
up
the
slope
up
the
driveway
to
enter
the
property.
D
N
G
N
There's
you
know
yeah,
there's
I
mean
the
opportunity
to
produce
it.
This
is
just
a
landscape
rendering,
but
to
introduce
a
pathway
from
the
parking
area
to
the
house.
Probably
would
be
easy
enough
whether
it
was
paver
stones
or
some
type
of
concrete
pathway.
That's
shouldn't
be
too
difficult
to
incorporate.
K
N
I
mean
almost
the
same
distance
if
you
walk
from
the
front
door
to
the
street,
so
you'd
be
looking
at
roughly
yeah
about
the
same.
Just
walk
out
your
front
door
to
get
to
your
car
you're,
looking
at
going
to
your
back
door
to
to
the
to
the
parking
area,
and
we
can
certainly
incorporate
some
type
of
paver
or
system
that
allows
for
a
much
more
easier
access
to
the
parking
area.
E
R
N
N
N
G
N
D
N
Then
removal,
so
typically
what
on
a
property
like
this,
you
wouldn't
plow,
you
wouldn't
plow
that
driveway
you
have
smaller,
Bobcat
or
I,
don't
want
to
use
the
wrong
term,
but
ATV
type,
smaller
vehicle
or
equipment
to
assemble
either
assemble
the
snow
or
move
it
off
site
or
stockpile.
If
it's
small
enough
of
a
snowfall,
you
could
stockpile
it
on
plenty
plenty
of
area
both
on
the
edges
of
the
parking
area,
both
left
and
right,
and
then
also
you
know
that
open
space
area
again
closer
to
the
side
property
line.
N
N
E
D
J
A
F
J
Q
I
don't
need
to
Echo
that
the
planning
board
denied
the
recommendation
for
this
project
and
I.
Ask
that
you
please
consider
that
as
allowed
clear
voluminous
message
that
this
is
not
a
project
that
should
be
built,
one
of
the
purposes
of
the
planning
board
is
to
not
only
guide
the
orderly
growth
of
a
community,
but
also
to
preserve
the
community's
land
use
and
we,
as
the
neighbors,
are
trying
to
preserve
the
land
in
our
neighborhood.
Q
As
you
know,
we've
presented
many
reasons
in
opposition
to
the
project
and
Council
feels
as
though
the
recommendation
should
have
been
granted
by
the
planning
board
based
on
all
needs
being
addressed.
But
if
we
look
at
the
responses
given
for
some
of
the
concerns
and
we
analyze
them,
you
will
realize
the
responses
that
are
being
addressed
and
not
realistic.
The
trash
in
response
to
your
question,
what
number,
when
we
were
before
you?
The
last
time
I
had
presented
pictures
and
Council
responded
when
he
was
questioned
about
those
pictures
of
the
trash.
Q
It
was
further
asked
by
one
of
the
planning
board
members.
How
was
the
trash
going
to
be
taken
care
of
in
the
new
proposed
project,
as
she
had
pointed
out,
a
trash
truck
or
compactor,
or
whatever
you
would
call
it
would
not
be
able
to
go
down
the
slope
into
the
driveway
and
empty
the
trash
like
it
normally
would
and
the
response
from
the
owner.
Q
Q
I
Q
Q
Q
Street,
if
the
snow
is
too
high,
that
ATV
will
not
move
the
snow
accompanying
professional
images
are
not
there's
only
so
much
snow,
a
little
ATV
machine
and
we
have
a
very
large
machine,
but
again
if
it's
higher
than
the
ATV,
it's
not
going
to
move.
Secondly,
when
you're
talking
going
up
a
slope
in
ATV
trying
to
not
only
sustain
traction
but
pushing
snow
at
the
same
time
again,
it's
not
realistic.
Q
Usually
a
company,
an
apartment
building
has
a
vehicle
or
a
heavy
machine,
with
a
plow,
with
the
resistance
of
a
vehicle
pushing
that
snow,
not
a
small
ATV
operated
by
an
individual
that
we
do
you
mentioned
are
the
parking
spaces
and
it
was
proposed
by
Council
that
it's
the
same
distance
as
parking
outside
of
the
sidewalk.
Well,.
D
Q
I
park
in
the
back
and
I
own,
the
property
that
starts
at
the
second
floor
and
I
have
to
climb
up
how
many
feet
just
to
get
to
my
back
door
versus
I'm,
packed
outside
my
property
and
I'm
gonna,
walk
six
feet
and
be
at
my
front
door
again
realistic.
It's
not
a
genius,
but
you
can
figure
it
out.
It's
not
the
same
space,
never
mind
dragging
the
groceries,
as
you
say,
more
children
or
snow
or
rain,
or
anything
that
presents.
Q
Q
Q
Four
doors
down
and
I
present
a
picture
because,
during
the
winter
months,
the
owners
of
this
condo,
which
is
Three
Doors
Down,
will
not
park
there
because
they're
concerned
about
the
slope
going
down
sliding
into
another
car
or
coming
up
and
getting
stuck.
The
second
picture
proposes
what
that
slope
would
be,
and
you
see
how
far
from
the
street
all
the
way
down
to
the
level
green
in
this
property
that
the
slope
would
have
to
be
at
the
driveway
one
of
the
planning
board.
Members
specifically
pointed
out
the
safety
concern
of
this
driveway.
Q
Q
Vehicle
and
again
Council
said
well,
that
is
speculation.
Well,
he
doesn't
obviously
live
in
the
neighborhood,
because
I
have
pictures.
Not
only
is
it
speculation,
it's
reality.
So
behind
me
is
the
same
slope,
but
on
the
opposite
side,
and
we
had
a
car,
be
blown
on
Christmas
Day
2020
by
the
wind
and
you'll
see
where
the
car
came
through
raining
down
the
hill
and
if
a
tree
was
not
there
to
stop
that
vehicle.
Q
D
D
Q
Okay,
you
know
Council
keeps
stating
that
the
neighbor's
concerns
have
all
been
addressed,
but
he's
missing
the
principle
here
and
what
we're
trying
to
say
the
owner
stated
at
the
planning
board
meeting
that
when
he
viewed
this
property
prior
to
purchase,
he
saw
the
opportunity
of
the
property
as
a
nice
piece
of
land
that
people
would
want
to
live.
What
about
maintaining
the
properties
for
the
people
that
live
there
to
have
a
nice
place
to
live?
Some
of
our
residents
have
lived
there
for
25
plus
years.
Q
A
Q
Q
This
property
went
before
the
planning
board
back
in
2021,
and
one
of
the
concerns
and
requests
was
that
the
abutters
are
addressed
and
confronted
from
the
current
owner.
When
we
came
before
you
again
this
time,
I
believe
it
was
the
end
of
May
that
we
met
the
admitting
was
asked
to
be
rescheduled,
so
he
could
purposely
go
and
speak
with
the
about
us
to
this
day.
That
has
never
happened.
He's
never
come
to
us
when
he
was
asked
at
the
planning
board
why
he
did
not
come
to
us.
Q
I
Q
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
in
a
picture
that
was
shown
of
a
rendering
picture
just
a
few
minutes
ago,
shows
the
two
properties
side
by
side,
but
there's
a
telephone
pole
that
is
currently
there.
That
is
not
in
any
picture,
and
the
question
is
if
the
telephone
pole
were
to
move,
what
location
is
that
going
to
have
in
regards
to
this
driveway
because
I'm
sure
there's
legalities,
that
you
can
only
move
a
telephone
pole,
a
certain
distance
and
how
that's
not
even
pictured
at
all
in
any
of
these
drawings?
Q
And
it's
currently
right
at
the
foot
of
the
entrance
way
into
the
apartment,
Green
Space
was
mentioned.
I
also
presented
pictures
to
the
planning
board
the
amount
of
green
space.
That's
in
this
area
properly,
currently
I
know
it's
proposed
that
there's
going
to
be
green
space,
but
the
amount
of
green
space
that's
currently
there
that's
going
to
be
torn
down
is
not
going
to
be
replaced
even
by
a
tenth
of.
What's
currently
that's
going
to
be
taken
down
from
there.
Q
Q
When
the
rain
has
stopped,
that
is
now
seeping
out,
and
it
does
see,
because
I
currently
have
to
look
at
that
when
I'm
about
my
on
a
dry
sunny
day
and
it's
seeping
down,
because
this
tank
is
slowly
releasing
the
water.
So
what
someone
may
have
I
don't
mind
on
a
pouring
day,
because
everybody's
yacht
is
wet,
but
when
it's
dry
a
sunny
day,
I
shouldn't
have
to
look
at
water.
Q
That's
running
out
from
this
tank
that
was
replaced
here
to
protect
you
know
the
runoff
of
the
water,
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
you
know,
for
many
reasons
of
the
you
know,
of
opposition
that
have
been
heard
and
said
over
and
over
again
I.
Just
ask
that
you
take
it
all
into
consideration,
hear
the
denial
that
was,
you
know,
placed
before
from
the
planning
board
and
agreed
that
this
property
is
too
small
for
this
project.
If.
N
Do
that
absolutely
no,
absolutely
not
I'm
professional,
so
I'll
start
with
with
respect
to
the
Outreach
that
was
done.
I
believe
my
client
went
to
your
house,
and
you
said
you
didn't
want
to
speak
to
him.
I
believe
there
was
there
was
that
so
that
that's
according
to
my
client,
Mr
Robinson
presented
himself
not
only
as
the
city
councilor,
but
also,
and
they
believe
he
submitted
a
petition
to
Prior
boards
indicated
that
he
was
speaking
on
behalf
of
a
number
of
people.
N
We
started
Mr
Robinson
because
of
that
Mr
Robinson
indicated
to
my
client
that
he
was
too
busy
to
meet
with
him.
The
message
has
been
loud
and
clear.
We
understand
the
neighbors.
Do
not
want
this
project,
all
the
things
that
we
hear
all
the
items
that
we've
heard
tonight.
You
know
we
talk
about
ignoring
reality.
N
If
you
just
speculate
about
any
possible
thing
that
could
go
wrong,
you
can
think
of
a
thousand
examples
of.
Why
not
to
do
a
project.
That's
that's
ignoring
reality.
The
idea
here
is
that
you
know
the
building
would
be
built
in
a
way.
That's
consistent
with
the
State
Building
Code
issues
of
concern.
Over
you
know,
children
being
run
over.
A
F
N
Anybody
get
up
and
rebut
the
sufficiency
of
the
plan
that
we
presented
and
submitted
that
was
prepared
by
RJ
O'connell
to
adjust
drainage
as
well
as
the
parking
all
we
heard.
Was
we
don't
like
this
person,
who's
doing
this
project
and
he's
a
bad
person.
The
other
thing
I
would
also
point
out
is
that,
with
respect
to
the
snow
removal,
yes
I
did
mention
an
ATV
I
also
mentioned
a
bobcat
Bobcats
have
a
different
mechanism
for
removal
of
snow.
N
We
also
indicated,
which
was
left
out
from
the
comments
is
that
the
professional
management
company
that
would
handle
both
the
condo
and
the
existing
three
family
would
be
responsible
for
moving
the
trash,
both
back
and
forth.
So
we're
not
relying
on
the
tenants
to
do
that.
We
would
be
relying
on
the
tenants
to
do
that
based
upon
how
we
would
Orient
this
project.
As
for
the
height
I,
did
we
heard
some
comments
from
Mr
Robinson
about
the
height
of
the
building
I?
Think
if
we
go
John
to
the.
A
Actually,
before
we
do
that,
you
know
because
I
think
I
want
to
hear
from
other
people
first
because
I
know
so
then
you
can
I
just
wanted
you,
since
that
was
a
little
more
heated
I
wanted
that
to
be
addressed.
Is
there
anyone
else
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
matter?
Could
you
identify
your
name
and
address
please,
sir?.
S
My
name
is
William
Clark
under
the
731
a
couple
of
years
ago,
I
had
two
family
now
as
well.
I
have
a
basement
about
certain
Ranch.
A
couple
of
years
ago,
I
have
a
29
year
old
son
and
my
son
wanted
to
want
to
talk
about.
Staying
with
his
family
I
went
to
the
board
to
see
if
I
could
build
another
apartment.
On
top
of
my
house,
so
I
can
put
my
son
up
there
and
his
family
I
was
told
absolutely
not
because
of
the
height
restrictions.
S
S
If
they,
if
they,
if
someone
say
someone
comes
in
advance,
they
got
four
bedrooms.
Eventually,
if
you
have
kids,
each
of
those
kids
are
going
to
have
a
car.
Now
you
bet
eight
bedrooms
and
you've
got
pockets
boys
for
four
children
or
four
people.
What
casters?
What
are
you
gonna
do
with
the
other
guys?
It's
not
that
it's
it's
not
that
the
the
safety
and
assortment
it's
just
that
the
the
the
problems
that
are
there
I'm
not
going
to
go
away,
especially
in
the
parking.
S
If
you
go
down
to
the
street,
passing
a
public
buildings
is
a
one
family.
His
wall
in
the
back
is
in
the
back
where
Jefferson
Ave
is,
is
50,
feet
high
and
then
his
backyard
is
flat,
but
he
had
a
bit
of
50
foot
wall
because
I
remember
when
they
built
it,
because
they've
gained
the
same
place
that
built
up
or
build
my
wall.
So
he's
saying
that
the
gentleman's
saying
five
feet
wall
and
then
when
it
goes
down
the
slope
it's
going
to
flatten
up,
but
how.
S
S
It
did
work,
we
got
it
all
fixed,
but
when
they
built
that
true
family
now,
you,
like
my
wife,
said
you'll,
be
sitting
in
the
house
and
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
beautiful,
like
90
degree
weather
here,
comes
the
water
to
my
wall
onto
my
property
and
I
have
to
deal
with
it
all
the
time
because
they
do
let
the
water
out
slowly
but
surely,
but
the
water
the
ground
is
so
saturated.
The
water
has
no
place
to
go.
S
So,
of
course,
it
goes
to
the
down
the
hill
to
my
wall
onto
my
property
and
I've,
looked
in
Poland
and
I.
Sometimes
I
can't
enjoy
my
because
it's
hard
with
can't
let
the
dog
out
so
there's
a
lot
of
ifs
and
buts
about
the
place.
It's
just.
If
you
look
at
it,
it's
just
it's
just
not
the
house
to
build
in
that
area.
S
There,
but
you
got
to
put
that
telephone
pole
somewhere
and
run
the
wires
as
far
as
Mr
Robinson
is
concerned,
he's
been
in
the
class
opened
himself.
I
was
born
in
Charleston
Royal
hospital
I've
been
in
68
years,
and
this
gentleman
what
what
always
is
here
for
the
city
and
I
didn't
break
anybody's
ears
or
anything
like
that
not
to
like
you
said
last
time.
He
said
he
was
like
the
honcho.
S
No
he's
not
he's
just
a
butler
like
us
he's
not
doing
anything
wrong
but
telling
us
what's
going
on
and
that's
what
we
want
to
know
what's
going
on,
but
he's
been
in
this
city
for
his
whole
life
and
I've,
known
with
my
whole
life.
If
it
has
nothing
but
talk
to
try
to
get
the
city
running
the
way
it
should
be
run,
and
he
does
that
he's
not
out
to
get
anybody
he's
not
you
know,
and
the
other
thing
is.
The
gentleman
said
that
the
owner
approached
us.
He
has
never
once.
A
S
Can
disagree
with
me,
I'm
home
every
single
day
nobody's
ever
come
to
talk
to
us.
The
only
person
has
come
to
talk
to
us
once
was
the
city
council.
They
came
once
to
talk
to
us
and
it
was
not
about
the
problems
about
you
wanted
to
get
our
votes,
so
he
has
never
once
come
to
my
house,
because
I've
known
every
single
day
for
the
last
six
years
that
I've
been
retire,
and
so
so.
S
S
M
S
In
his
life,
but
there
was
nothing
there,
there
was
never
anything.
We've
been
there
almost
30
years,
my
my
neighbor's
been
there
longer
than
me.
There
was
never
anything
there
and
it's
a
beautiful
area,
but
you're
gonna
come
down
and
cut
all
those
trees
down.
What
that's
not
right.
You've
got
all
those
beautiful
trees
there,
it's
a
beautiful
section
area,
all
they're
going
to
come
into
is
ruin
it.
They
don't
see.
S
I
know
that
people
want
to
make
money,
but
they
don't
look
at
the
long.
You
know
what
is
it
doing
to
the
neighborhood.
You
want
to
come
and
put
a
house
and
rip
everything
down
and
make
our
neighborhood
look
like
you
know
houses
all.
We
don't
want
that.
We
don't
want
the
problems
that
it
comes
with.
We
just
want
to
you
know
we
did
you
know
this
when
they
built
the
apartment,
building,
yeah
everything
was
cool.
You
know
they
traded
over
to
condos,
they
take
good
care
of
it.
S
O
Address
Mike
Trace
around
them:
it's
63
warm
Avenue
and
finish
for
50
years
now,
I
live
across
the
street
from
71
on
average
there's
a
401
Department
building
now
I
wish.
You
could
put
up
that
rendering,
where
what
the
house
is
going
to
look
like
when
you
put
it
there,
and
you
could
have
really
appreciate
the
narrowness
between
124
this
right,
there,
okay
right
there,
the
the
existing
three
family
and
the
surrendering
right.
You
can't
really
appreciate
the
numbness
of
that.
That's
a
pretty
steep
slope
now
to
go
down
there.
O
Okay,
just
let
me
just
finish
this-
to
go
down
in
the
island
across
from
71
Avenue,
which
has
40
units.
Nobody-
and
this
is
in
speculation.
This
is
a
reality.
I
see
it
every
day.
Nobody
goes
down
that
slope
to
park
behind
the
building
they
park
on
the
street.
That's
that's
just
a
fact.
Now
in
inclement
weather,
which
on
Warren
Avenue
could
be
four
or
five
months
out
of
the
year,
I
mean
you're.
Making
these
phases.
O
It's
a
yacht.
It's
a
yacht
to
122..
It's
always
been
a
yacht.
It
should
stay
a
lot
after
the
pickup
truck,
where
the
house
that
burned
down
was
a
single
family
house
and
in
our
apartment
and
right
now,
it's
just
a
foundation
that
somebody
has
already
bought
the
property
they're
going
to
put
a
couple
of
downhills
in
there,
which
is
fine,
because
there
was
a
house
there
to
put
in
a
house
where
there
never
was.
A
house
goes
against
all
reasoning:
you're
putting
houses
in
somebody's
yard.
That
was
somebody's
side
yeah.
O
It
was
never
meant
to
have
a
home
there
or
a
development
of
any
kind.
It's
just
it's
it's
open.
Space.
It
should
stay
that
way,
so
the
mic
main
concerns
it's
congested
enough.
If
you're
going
to
add
six
more
parking
spaces
to
meet
the
day,
they're
not
going
to
be
pocket
spaces,
it's
just
going
to
be.
O
It's
called
parking
spaces,
they're
not
going
to
be
utilized
because
it
was
or
not
it's
that
slope
is
and
if
they
pass
the
picture
around
that
slope,
it
has
to
be
50
feet
from
the
sidewalk
to
the
bottom
of
the
back
of
that
house.
So
I'm
against
this
totally
I've
been
a
woman.
After
50
years
it
doesn't,
a
house
does
not
belong,
they
have
two
condos
could
not
belong
there.
That's
that's.
U
N
I'm,
sorry,
if
you
would
view
the
items
so
I
mean
I
think
just
for
a
general
standpoint.
We
hear
a
lot
of
speculation
about
things
that
are
going
to
happen
if
this
project
happens,
but
we've
not
heard
anything
specific.
So
with
respect
to,
for
example,
the
the
drainage
plan
we've
provided
the
planning
board,
we
apply
to
provide
the
planning
department
and
the
zoning
board
a
very
detailed
plan
by
RJ
O'connell,
which
addresses
the
drainage
on
site,
as
well
as
protecting
adjoining
properties
as
well.
We've
provided
the
narrative.
We've
heard
nothing
but
speculation
over.
N
It
won't
work.
We
hear
about
the
complaints
about
the
drainage
book,
then
when
we
provide
a
plan,
we
hear
it
won't
work,
it's
not
realistic,
but
yet
nobody's
presented
anything
that
would
rebut
or
be
from
a
qualified
person
the
state,
that's
whatever
we're
proposing
or
whatever
we're,
showing
does
not
meet
or
address
the
concerns.
We
hear
concerns
about
parking,
we're
providing
enough
parking
on
the
two
units,
as
required
under
your
code.
Two
spaces
per
units
would
be
part
of
your
code.
N
Just
because
somebody
might
have
three
cars
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
we're
not
providing
enough
parking.
Your
code
requires
two
parking
spaces,
so
the
speculation
about
parking
again,
while
a
concern
of
neighbors
is
not
one.
That's
really
an
issue
here.
In
fact,
I
would
say
that
it's
less
of
an
issue
considering
that
there's
been
complacable
parking
with
the
existing
three
unit
building
and
we're
proposing
Harvey
as
to
who's
going
to
use
the
parking,
and
it's
too
far
away
and
they're
not
going
to
walk
to
it.
N
That's
all
speculation
again,
we're
not
talking
walking
a
football
field
from
your
car
to
your
door,
we're
talking
about
having
a
private
deeded
parking
spot
for
your
unit
that
allows
you
to
park
in
a
space
and
not
have
to
worry
about
having
a
parking
space.
So
we
feel,
like
we've,
addressed
that
issue,
and
we
keep
coming
back
to
the
same
comments
about
it's
not
going
to
work.
Just
because
that's
the
easy
thing
to
say,
I
haven't
heard
anybody
say
why
it
wouldn't
work
other
than
they
don't
think
it'll
work.
N
That's
not
really
the
facts
that
should
be
relied
upon
and
make
it
a
determine
Nation
as
to
whether
or
not
the
parking
works.
As
for
the
height
the
height
of
our
building,
if
we
go
to
our
our
rendering
is
no
different,
the
height
of
the
building
immediately
to
our
right,
which
is
the
existing
building,
and
arguably
is
contextual.
If
you
go
to
the
back
of
our
the
existing
building,
it's
the
same
height
as
the
back
of
the
proposed
building.
N
That's
for
one
reason,
and
one
reason:
only
the
slope
of
this
site
is
so
different
from
the
sidewalk
to
the
back
that
you
are
going
to
have
a
substantial
height
difference
in
the
back
of
the
property
as
related
to
the
front
of
it.
But
I
think
for
purposes
of
saying
whether
or
not
this
is
not
contextual.
With
the
neighborhood.
It's
a
proposed
to
family
with
a
pitched
roof
very
similar
to
what
exists
in
the
surrounding
context
of
the
neighborhood.
So
to.
D
N
G
D
G
G
G
Now
you
say
that
so
we
there's
no
I,
don't
eat
anything
like
for
sure
how
you
guys
gonna
take
that
snowfall
of
how
you're
gonna
pull
out
this
vehicle
down
with
what
equipment
I
mean
a
truck
a
red
one.
That's
in
front
of
the
new.
Do
you
show
over
there
in
the
picture,
so
I
mean?
Is
that
driveway
white
enough
yep,
whatever
told
me
they
will
have
to
push
it
down
and
you
can
sit
and
then
you
gotta
back
up.
R
N
N
N
It
I
mean
I,
think,
there's
Reserve
area
around
the
site
to
stockpile.
You
could
stockpile
snow
on
site.
It's
not
I
mean
the
site,
isn't
so
constrained
that
you
would
not
be
able
to
stockpile
the
snow
I.
Don't
think
this
is
the
first
parking
Arrangement
that
you'd
have
where
you'd
have
that
challenge.
So
it's
not
and
again,
I
I
I'm,
not
I,
understand
we
live
in
New
England
I
lived
here,
my
whole
life.
N
We
don't
have
105
inches
of
snow
every
winter,
I
mean
I,
think
we've
had
a
couple
of
anomalies
and
I
think
we
have
had
some
heavy
snow
and
certainly
everybody
has
had
to
adjust
and
make
accommodations
for
snow
removal
when
that
occurs,
but
a
typical
winter.
This
site
should
be
able
to
handle
enough
stockpile
of
snow
and,
if
not,
but
it
has
to
be
removed
off
Sunday
I.
G
N
Don't
do
that
whatever
it
takes
to
get
the
job
done,
I
I,
don't
know
that.
That's
really,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
like
you
design
a
parking
area
with
enough
setback
from
its
property
lines
with
enough
Reserve
area
that
that
somehow
is
can't
be
resolved,
I
think
that
there's
there's
plenty
of
ways
to
skin
that
cat
and
I.
Don't
think.
That's
that's
an
issue.
That's
that's
of
utmost
concern!
That's
that's!
This
Project's
return
on.
N
F
E
N
N
But
my
recollection
is
that
the
particular
member
who
made
the
motion
was
searching
for
a
reason
and
the
reason
she
said
was
that
we
didn't
provide
a
section
on
the
height
of
the
retaining
wall,
and
I
had
indicated
that
the
three
hearings
prior
to
us
didn't
either
and
that
wasn't
a
basis
for
denial.
I
think
there
was
other
reasons
for
why
they
wanted
to
deny
it
which
remained
to
be
seen,
but
I
think
for
purposes
of
what
we
provided.
The
information
that
we
were
asked
to
provide.
We
provided
everything
the
planning
would
wanted.
N
N
N
A
K
K
F
F
A
N
Through
the
chair,
I
respond,
yeah,
I
I
would
be
except
I
did
hear,
I
think
multiple
times
the
chair
asked.
What
do
you
want
to
see,
and
the
answer
is
nothing
so
I
think
coming
into
this.
The
chasm
is
just
too
far
wide
we're
proposing
a
conforming
use
on
a
conforming
size
lot
in
a
neighborhood
that
has
two
families
and
they
want
zero.
So
there's
nothing
even
to
meet
in
the
middle.
N
If
I
thought
a
single
family
could
work
on
the
site
or
that
the
neighborhood
would
accept
that
I
think
I
would
at
least
encourage
my
client
to
explore
it,
but
we're
not
even
hearing
that
so
I.
You
know
I
have
no
choice
but
to
go
forward
with
my
hearing
and
ask
ask
for
a
decision
based
upon
you
know.
What
we
feel
is,
the
you
know
is
the
standard.
M
A
M
Like
we
all
have
that
sense
of
nostalgia
that
we
don't
want
our
community,
our
neighborhood
to
change,
and
it
feels
not
good,
especially
with
the
history
of
this
property
owner.
So
sometimes
we
can
accept
if
it's
a
if
he
has
a
great
history
with
the
tenants-
and
you
know
it's
a
happy
neighborhood
and
if
it's
in
wow
I'm
really
not
so
very
so
bad
about
that
sense
of
nostalgic
not
being
there
anymore.
M
I
listened
like
my
cohort
member
Mr
Mahoney
in
terms
of
snow,
so
I
believe
that's
a
universal
problem
wherever
it
sounds
right,
so
we're
all
faced
with
that
challenge,
and
sometimes
we
talked
about
bobcat
and
this
type
of
Machinery,
sometimes
it's
manual.
Sometimes
it
takes
a
party
of
people
to
remove
snow
and
it
happens
right
so
I.
Don't
think
that's
not!
M
A
If
it's
the
board's
interest
and
if
it's
the
belief
that
there's
going
to
be
an
open-minded
discussion,
Then
I,
then
I'm,
okay,
with
saying
let's
go
for
another
month,
but
I
think
a
couple
of
things.
I
want
to
I
just
want
to
add
a
couple
I'm
going
to
add
to
what
you
said
you
said:
Jim
is
and
I
did
keep
asking.
What
do
you
want
to
see
here?
Well,
of
course
you
know
and
listen.
If
I
live
next
door,
I
wouldn't
want
to
see
anything
either.
I
have
a
yard.
I
want
to
see
the
trees.
A
Well,
you
know
it's
yeah.
It's
their
choice.
To
make
height
wise,
it
doesn't
I
and
I
would
want
to
talk
about
the
height
stuff
a
little
more.
But
if,
if
those,
if
that's
an
accurate
picture,
then
it
seems
like
they're,
pretty
it's
it's
consistent.
What's
the
I
mean
I?
Think
four
bedrooms
is
a
lot.
I'll
tell
you
that
I
think
four
bedrooms
is
a
lot
and
I
think
that
that
does
lead
to
the
potential
for
more
cars
and
you
know
than
than
or
you
know
what
he's
they're
legally.
A
It
to
the
front
every
Tuesday,
that's
what
happens,
but
the
reality
is
you
know,
but,
but
when,
when
the
owner
doesn't
sort
of
been
very
supportive
of
ensuring
that
the
trash
that's
existing,
there
he's
not
cleaning
up
that
leaves
a
bad
taste
in
people's
mouths.
I,
don't
think
that
that's
a
killer
that
somebody's
gonna
have
to
pull
it
off
because
you
hire
someone
to
do
it.
A
I
think
that
I
think
that
there
are
months
in
the
year
where
people
will
decide
that
they
would
rather
park
on
the
street
than
attempt
to
go
down
that
driveway
I.
Think
that
that's
probably
likely
because
it's
they're
worried
about
it,
so
they're
worried
about
whatever
but
probably
10
months.
If
it
was
like
last
year,
they
wouldn't
have
a
problem.
We
had
no
snow
I.
A
E
F
A
But
I'm
saying
but
that's
scary,
so
it
was
scary
though,
but
that
did
happen
now
and
the
whole
idea
of
the
issue
and
that's
why,
in
some
respects
my
issue
about
the
retaining
I
think
that's
the
question
about
the
retaining
tank
is
really
an
important
one,
because
how
it's
properly
used,
but
again
right
now
not
relevant
to
this
this
issue.
They
are
concern
the
issue.
Their
land
is
wet
on
dry
days
because
of
it.
It's
something
that
already
exists.
That's
not
going
to
be
exacerbated,
I,
don't
believe
by
this
situation,
so
I
mean
I.
A
I
I,
hear
the
concerns
and
I
I
recognize
them,
but
we
have
a
certain
Limited
purview
of
what
we're
supposed
to
be
looking
at.
We
haven't
gone
through
the
various
situations
yet,
and
we
have
to
agree
on
that
because
we
have
to
you
know
that
that
may
be
an
issue
because,
quite
frankly,
it's
one
of
the
issues.
For
me,
it's
usually
easy
to
figure
out
if
something
is
is
with,
is
more
substantial
or
detrimental
to
the
public,
good
and
I.
A
Think
in
this
case,
you
even
have
a
harder
time
telling
that,
because
what
we're
hearing
from
the
public
is
it's
not
in
their
in
their
public
interest,
so
I'm-
you
know
so
so
that's
and
all
I
could
do,
is
look
at
these
requirements
and
and
that
so
we
have
to
go
through
those.
So
I
mean
that's
a
concern
that
I
have
not
because
I'm
not
and
I'm,
not
discounting
at
all
anybody's
concerns.
They
live
there
and
this
is
their
neighborhood
and
they
have
a
right
to
want
it
to
be
Pleasant
for
them
as
they
want.
A
A
To
issue-
and
we
need
to
determine
that
and
and
so
I'm
just
saying
from
my
point
of
view,
the
only
one
like
anything
else
that
I
look
at
these
is
the
whole
detrimental
to
the
public
good,
because
from
the
public
good
we're
hearing,
you
know
you
gotta
tell
me
why
this
is
positive
for
the
public
good,
when
the
public
is
telling
us
they
don't
like
it.
So
that's
the
only
not
concerned.
That's
that's
the
wrong
way
to
use
it.
That
is
one
of
the
questions
that
I
have
as
we
go
through
this
so
anyway.
A
That's
my
thoughts.
I
I
can
understand
the
concerns
about
some
of
the
concerns.
I,
don't
I,
don't
appreciate
all
the
concerns.
I
think
the
high
point
of
view
is,
which
is
one
of
the
variance
requirements.
It's
not
inconsistent
with.
What's
next
to
it,
unless
I'm,
unless
that's
an
inaccurate
representation,
the
back
versus
the
front,
what
you
see
from
the
front
is
what's
relevant.
A
A
N
It
it's
been
through
the
chair,
the
issue
of
trash
I
I,
understand
the
concern.
I
understand
you
know
trash
day
can
present
problems.
You
know
it's
not
always
just
the
tenants
who
you
know.
It's
not
like
they're
out
there
throwing
their
trash
in
the
street
trash
trucks.
I've
seen
them
plenty
of
times,
aren't
the
most
careful
when
it
comes
to
and
you're
right.
It
requires
the
owner
to
be
a
little
more
sensitive.
N
The
part
of
the
problem
and
we've
we've
raised
this
before-
is
that
the
location
of
where
the
trash
is
stored,
currently
because
of
the
conditions
of
the
site
is
that
it's
on
the
front
of
the
building?
It's
unsightly.
We
agree.
We
want
to
change
correct
that
I
think
one
of
the
ways
to
address
that
is
to
have
access
to
the
back
and
to
have
an
area
where
the
trash
can
be
stored.
That's
being.
N
Could,
but
if
you
have
the
conditions
that
are
currently
existing
on
the
site,
to
move
the
trash
without
having
or
the
driveway,
certainly
presents
an
easier
opportunity
to
move
the
traffic
in
and
out
so
I
agree
with
that,
but
I
think
that's
part
of
we
heard
that
that's
one
of
the
commitments
that
we
made
as
part
of
the
you
know
as
part
of
this.
This
proposal.
A
G
N
N
A
N
When
we're
here
through
the
chair,
we're
hearing
issues
about
the
height
I,
I
would
Hazard
to
guess.
Single
family
would
probably
look
exactly
like
the
two
family,
if
not
just
as
much.
Well,
we
probably
wouldn't
utilize
the
lower
level.
We
would
still
have
to
have
that
Foundation
to
build
it
up,
because
you
have
to
have
that
in
the
rear,
because
otherwise
you
have
you.
N
Single
story
at
the
sidewalk
level
and
it
probably
wouldn't
look
very
contextual,
so
a
single
family
may
look
a
lot
like
the
two
family,
we're
proposing.
It
may
have
less
parking
and
it
may
have
you
know
less
bedrooms,
but
I,
don't
know
that
that
addresses
the
comments
and
the
concerns
of
the
neighborhood
because,
as
they
said,
they
just
don't
want
anything
well.
P
A
N
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
This
one.
Usually
you
can't
hit
a
ground
will
double
with,
so
this
property
is
clearly
unique
in
its
characteristics,
both
soil
and
topography.
The
soil
conditions
for
this
site
clearly
result
in
some
storm
water
runoff
that
actually
impacts
the
neighbors
and
the
butters
to
our
rear,
potentially
to
our
side,
I.
Think
based
upon
just
that
alone,
the
soil
conditions
on
the
site.
N
You
know
the
development
of
this
site
actually
provides
for
mitigation
and
improvements
in
those
conditions
with
respect
to
the
slope
of
this
site,
as
we
discussed,
the
slope
goes
from
the
front
to
the
rear.
It
is
pretty
dramatic.
Currently
we
can
create
some
improvements
with
respect
to
that,
but
in
order
to
address
any
of
those
concerns,
we
would
require
relief
under
the
code
for
the
dimensional
relief
that
we're
requesting
I
would
point
out
that
we
are
proposing
a
allowed
as
of
right
use
of
two
family
on
a
lot
of
sufficient
size.
N
B
D
N
N
As
I
mentioned
in
the
previous
comments,
what
we're
requesting
for
Relief,
specifically
with
respect
to
the
two
family
proposed
to
family
dwelling,
including
the
height
and
the
setback,
the
existing
structure,
that
is
on
the
lot
presently
can't
be
moved.
That
would
be
the
significant
expensive
we
had
to
do
that
to
increase
or
allow
for
those
setbacks
with
respect
to
the
height
of
the
existing
bill
or
the
proposed
building.
N
The
shape
and
topography
of
this
lot
is
such
that
we
would
have
no
other
choice
but
to
have
a
four-story
in
the
rear,
with
a
contextual
front
portion
of
the
building.
If
we
were
required
to
comply
with
that,
the
only
requirement
or
the
only
ability
to
do
that
would
be
actually
bring
the
land
up
in
the
back.
That
would
be
a
substantial
hardship
and
quite
Financial
economic
hardship
for
the
property
owner.
F
F
N
So
the
proposed
this
is
a
proposed
two-family
project.
It's
compatible
not
only
with
surrounding
uses
and
contacts
in
the
neighborhood.
It's
an
allowed
use
in
the
neighborhood
we're
not
proposing
a
nine
unit
building
in
a
neighborhood
that
is
allowed
to
have
two
family
dwellings.
We
are
specifically
proposing
a
use
that
is
authorized
under
your
zoning
code
and
allowed
without
a
variance.
In
addition,
we
are
proposing
a
lot
size
that
is
again
set
forth
in
your
zoning
code
for
purposes
of
accommodating
a
two-family
dwelling.
N
We
have
adequate
parking
and
we're
providing
adequate
facilities
for
the
site,
including
two
spaces
per
unit
that
were
that
we're
proposing
and
I
I,
as
I
mentioned
previously,
we
would
be
willing
to
accept
conditions
to
reduce
the
number
of
bedrooms.
We
don't
necessarily
have
to
have
a
total
of
four
bedrooms.
It
would
not
be
detrimental
to
public
good,
as
it
would
provide
additional
housing
here
in
the
city
of
Chelsea
goal,
which
is
necessitated
by
increased
demand
for
housing
all
around.
N
In
addition,
to
the
extent
the
improvements
of
the
property
will
address,
concerns
that
have
been
articulated
by
members
of
the
public
who
live
in
the
immediate
vicinity,
including
existing
parking
problems
on
the
street.
We
are
proposing
three
parking
spaces
for
an
existing
three
unit,
dwelling
that
has
no
parking.
Currently,
that's
an
improvement
to
the
site
currently
and
we
are
also
providing
adequate
parking
and
facilities
for
the
proposed
to
family
and
I
will
be
reiterated
again
and
I.
N
Don't
want
to
overstate
this
because
I
think
it's
an
important
component,
it's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
withdrew.
At
the
last
time
we
presented
this.
We've
spent
a
substantial
amount
of
money
on
obtaining
a
civil
engineer
plan
to
address
drainage,
I've,
provided
the
plan
Department
with
a
narrative,
as
well
as
the
plan
and
all
the
engineering.
N
That's
included,
I
believe
that
the
improvements
from
that
alone
are
substantial
enough
to
be
a
benefit
to
the
surrounding
context
of
the
surrounding
neighborhood,
because
the
current
condition
as
the
property
stands
presently
does
not
allow
for
any
storm
water
mitigation
or
runoff,
not
with
state
of
the
comments
we
heard
about.
Other
properties.
I,
don't
know
anything
about
their
systems,
but
I
can
say
that
the
system
that
was
presented
to
the
planning
department,
the
planning
board
and
this
board
has
been
designed
to
address
those
specific
concerns
that
were
raised.
E
E
N
State
Building
Code
is
very
specific
standards
for
slope
of
driveways.
This
has
to
be
built
in
accordance
to
the
state
building
code,
and
it
also
has
to
be
built
with
the
appropriate
protections
put
in
place.
We've
included
bollards
throughout
the
entire
parking
area.
So
the
question
of
whether
or
not
it's
safe,
I
I,
understand
where
you're
coming
from,
but
nobody's
presented
that
it's
not
safe
and
nobody's
discounted.
The
fact
that
we
are
proposing
to
build
this
in
accordance
with
the
State
Building
Code,
so.
D
A
Say
I
would
I
would
have
to
argue
that
the
definition
of
public
good
might
be
somewhat
subjective,
and
so
that
is
quite
frankly,
I'll
I'll
put
myself
out
there
I'm.
This
is
the
only
one
that
I'm
having
trouble
with
I.
Personally,
don't
I,
sorry
people
but
I,
don't
think
it's
a
bad
bad
project,
I
think.
But
when
you
hear
this
kind
of
pushback.
F
N
Good,
though
I
think
this,
the
the
subjective
is,
notwithstanding
other
than
just
anecdotal
speculation
about
issues
that
could
be
related
to
this
without
providing
some
type
of
specific
data.
You
know
that
the
driveway
is
unsafe
or
that
the
parking
area
doesn't
work
or
you
know
the
distance
traveled
is
too
far.
That's
speculative,
that's
expected
go.
We
do
because
we
we
have.
N
We
have
an
engineer
who
designed
it
so
our
engineer
designed
it
so
that
it
can
be
built
across
the
State
Building
Code
nobody's
presented
any
evidence,
Noah
Butters,
no
board
members,
no
plan
nobody's
come
to
us
and
said
this
does
not
work
so
to
suggest
that
somehow
it
doesn't
work.
I
think
is
speculative
for
purposes
of
the
hearing.
N
A
I
mean
that
I'm
going
to
say
they
are
following
the
law
that
you
know,
and
we
are
here
in
situations
when
the
law
doesn't
always
work
to
figure
out
how
to
you
know
what
what
we
can
do
to
smooth
those
things
over.
So
we
have
to,
for
the
sake
of
argument,
I
think
assume
that,
as
with
any
good
developer,
they
will
in
fact
develop
it
in
accordance
with
state
law.
A
That
doesn't
mean
that
it
meets
the
criteria
here,
but
it
means
that
I
I
will
make
the
assumption
that
you
are
following
and
doing
as
what
State
law
and
that
they
you
know,
they've
got
the
parking
they're
not
going
to
build
a
slope
that
goes
like
this
they're
going
to
have
to
figure
it
out
that,
and
that
doesn't
mean
that
doesn't
mean
that
people
are
going
to
use
it,
and
we
don't.
We
can't
force
them.
That's
not
what
we
get
to
consider.
A
R
A
N
A
Paid
you
and
the
end
the
commitment
from
the
neighbors.
There
has
been
a
lot
about
this.
It
is.
It
is
actually
too
bad
that
there
can't
have
been
a
more
needing
of
the
minds
around
this,
but
that
is
not
again
something
that
we
are
charged
with.
So
we
do
not
have
a
unanimous
vote
on
the
variances,
which
means
that
we
will
not
repeat
what.
B
N
A
A
A
No
sorry,
2023-12
51,
Library,
Street
page
of
Florentino
for
special
permit
and
variance
seeking
approval
for
the
demolition
of
a
garage
structure
and
a
residential
structure
and
construction
of
a
four
unit.
Dwelling
structure
which
does
meet
the
city
of
zoning
ornament
for
a
minute.
It
does
need,
or
does
not
mean
which
does
not
meet
the
city
of
Chelsea
zoning,
ordinance
for
minimum
lot,
side,
yard
setback,
front
yard,
setback,
lot,
size,
rear
yard,
set
vacuum,
combined,
side,
yard,
setback,
maximum
floor
area
ratio
and
lot
coverage
so
John.
What
did
the
planning
board
have
to
say
about.
B
This
one
any
more
recommended
approval
with
scanning
conditions
as
opposable
designing
you
attendance
for
governmentally
ineligible,
to
say
in
the
city's
president's
computer
packing
program,
a
drainage
plan
exterior
plant
lightning
plan
to
see
some
of
the
international
box
guy
standards,
our
Landscaping
plan
and
the
parking
space
proposed
against
the
real
wall.
The
east
side
of
the
building
designed
to
allow
for
vehicles
to
back
over
the
space
safely,
I'm,
not
sure
on
Church.
A
V
V
V
A
single
family
kind
of
cube-shaped,
brick
building
on
the
other
side,
which
is
a
single
family,
so
the
ground
floor
will
be
seven
covered
parking
spaces.
The
upper
floors.
The
second
floor
will
be
two
units,
one
of
1200
plus
square
feet
and
one
of
900
plus
square
feet,
both
two
bedroom
units.
Third
fourth
floor
will
be
two
well
I
call
them
duplex.
You
call
them
townhouses,
but
they'll
each
be
two
floors,
so
one
unit
will
be
17
almost
1800
square
feet.
The
other
will
be
two
thousand.
The
fall.
V
And
again
what
bethan's
design
is
the
setback
feature
where
the
ground
floor
is
closer
than
the
lot
lines,
but
the
upper
floors
are
recessed
in
order
to
get
the
neighbors
a
little
space
of
privacy,
but
in
order
to
get
all
the
parking
spaces
in
the
grounds
the
bar
has
to
be
dimensionally
where
it
is
so
John
did
you
received
the
updated
parking
plan
from
Death
that
I
did
that
addressed
the
board's
concern
about
the
park.
Who's
finished.
T
D
A
D
T
F
T
Of
them,
so
each
unit
has
its
own
private
deck,
but
they're,
not
on
top
of
each
other,
so
that
that
person
has
some
privacy,
for
you
know,
sitting
out
and
having
coffee
or
whatever.
So
there's
one
here
right
and
then
this
one
is
for
this
unit,
which
is
here.
This
one
is
for
this
unit
on
this
side
and
then,
if
you
go
to
the
other
side
of
the
laundry
this
unit,
which
is
the
time
has
California
here
so.
T
A
B
A
V
V
Mr
Florentino
did
a
swap
with
the
butter
where
he
gave
the
butter
a
narrow
strip
of
land
on
the
side,
so
that
he
could
use
that
as
the
right
of
way
and
was
able
to
regain
the
right-of-way
right
through
the
middle
of
the
lot.
But
basically,
what
it
really
comes
down
to
is:
there's
no
other
land
available
to
build
this
out.
A
V
So
again,
the
size
and
configuration
of
a
lot
of
such
that
it's
not
feasible
to
substantially
improve
and
improve
it
without
Financial
hardships
and
Mr
Florentino
the
best
he
could
do
to
really
develop
it
and
put
a
nice
property.
There
provide
a
fair,
modest
return
with
the
poor
family.
If
you
remember,
we
were
before
the
board
a
year
ago
proposing
the
five
family,
which
some
members
thought
was
just
too
big.
D
E
V
The
relief
can
be
granted
without
well.
The
site
is
currently
served
by
adequate
utilities
and
public
services
in
its
current
state.
A
lot
with
its
garages
and
small
single-story
brick
resident
residence
is
an
eyesore
in
the
midst
of
the
midst
of
a
neighborhood
consisting
of
well-maintained
multi-family
residences
and
also
a
large
apartment
building
not
far
away
also
about
providing
sufficient
off-street
parking
has
required.
The
project
won't
exacerate
the
city-wide
parking
limitations.
F
F
B
A
A
F
F
F
F
G
A
H
H
A
Special
apartment
Varian
seeking
approval
to
establish
six
new
residential
units
and
reducing
the
number
of
existing
when
we
house
SRO
units
from
18
to
12
by
construction
by
by
construction
a
year
by
I
guess
by
constructing
the
rear,
Edition
and
stairs
which
does
not
meet
the
minimum
requirements
for
side
yard
setback
really
aren't
setback,
usable
open
space
and
off
street
parking.
In
addition,
residential
units
on
the
ground
floor
and
the
retail
business
district
shall
only
be
allowed
by
special
permit
talk
to
us
about
this
project.
F
H
Johny
can
adjust
as
far
as
the
project
he's
done.
He
just
did
the
one
across
the
street
from
the
well
actually,
this
building
yeah
the
story
with
the
Brick
story,
which
is
a
beautiful
building
yeah,
and
you
restore
that
and
he
bought
this
building.
This
was
one
of
the
major
I
guess,
one
of
the
bad
buildings
in
Chelsea
for
a
woman
house
and
his
goal
and
objective
to
apply.
H
This
is
to
convert
the
18
room,
woman
else
to
12
Roman,
elses
and
six
presidential
units,
still
total
of
18,
of
which
she's
going
to
have
units
on
the
ground
level
there
and
a
small
addition
to
back
to
meet
the
stairwells
and
egresses
and
so
forth,
because
you
have
to
make
it
back
today
is
closed
because
you're
going
to
be
gutting
the
whole
entire
building
spring
clarify
alarm
masonry.
Everything.
H
If
you
look
at
the
other
ones,
he's
built
right
down
the
street
here,
you
can
see
them
they're
all
state-of-the-art
buildings,
probably
the
best
small
time
when
I
say
small
time
compared
to
the
big
buildings
like
Chelsea
clock
for
20
30,
40
50
best
of
all
about
the
city.
He
spends
a
fortune
on
them.
So
these
are
basically
all
the
women
houses.
So
he
doesn't.
He
builds
little
kitchenettes
separate
bathroom,
so
they
don't
have
one
in
each
floor
either
the
other
buildings.
H
It
makes
it
easier
for
the
tents
that
he
gets
high
quality
kind
of
sticky,
separate
woman
else's
instead
of
having
more
transient.
You
know,
people
you
know
doing
drugs
and
bathrooms,
which
is
why
he's
had
success
in
converting
to
the
other,
open
houses
in
Chelsea,
I
believe
and
let's
keep
you
dry,
but
we
just
cities
and
strongly
in
support
of
getting
this
building
off
their
map
of
one
of
those
fun
buildings
in
the
city
and
looking
forward
to
what
Ricky
done
Steve's
building.
So
essentially
it's
still
going
to
be
the
same
amount
of
units.
H
H
He's
done
it
in
the
past
you've
sitting
on
another
building
and
Johnson
five
minutes
before
they
got
rid
of
the
bar,
and
it's
worked
on
the
ground
level.
You
know
so
with
that.
But
but
he
manages
his
office
is
right
here
at
Chelsea.
He
manages
all
of
his
buildings.
Antiguously
maintains
him
cleans
them
outside
lighting
signage
I
mean
if
he
sees
like
something
in
the
hallway
he's
the
guy
who's,
a
huge
person
not
really
doing
it
that
doesn't
belong
to
you.
H
I
know
what
Ricky
is
so
he
takes
a
lot
of
crime
and
spends
a
lot
of
money
in
these
buildings,
and
this
is
something
that
we've
worked
with
John
and
also
with
probably
John
Tom
and
rosino
and
I
believe
he's
going
to
come
to
the
next
meeting.
If
this
is
one
of
the
abilities,
they
really
wanted
Ricky
to
try
to
do
it
and
get.
H
Was
a
very
tight
building
with
the
butter
to
make
that
work
and
he
spent
the
fortune
to
restore
it
and
make
sure
it
looked
the
same.
And
if
you
look
at
the
other
buildings
that
he's
built,
I
I
welcome
the
board
to
drive
by
it.
They're
stuck
I
mean
they're
outside
and
inside,
and
he
spends
a
lot
of
money
in
Chelsea
and
these
units
I
walked
into
many
of
these.
H
These
are
all
they're
rooming
houses,
but
they're,
essentially
like
small
mini
box,
and
by
doing
that,
you
actually
can
track
the
better
quality
and
he
has
a
niche
for
it
and-
and
it
works
so
he's
not
concerned
about
doing
that.
But
he
needs
to
convert
some
of
these
women
House
Foods
to
apartments
and
get
rid
of
the
ground
level
portion.
So
he
can
make
sense
of
it
because
the
money
he
invests
like
when
you
walk
into
these
units
and
I
believe
this.
F
D
H
To
keep
the
existing
break,
we're
going
to
do
something
else:
okay,
we'll
be
doing
the
exterior
of
the
building
over
the
same
man
that
he
does
so
as
far
as
what
he
is
as
an
operator
phenomena
as
far
as
a
product,
don't
listen
to
me,
John
the
priest.
If
you
talk
to
you
go
by
the
buildings,
he
does
great
work.
So
this
was
something
that
the
city
you
know
wanted
to
see
it
get
done
in
his
power
he's
getting
that
use
out
of
there.
H
The
way
it's
being
operated
and
he's
committed
to
put
that
money
still
back
into
Chelsea.
So
it's
the
same
amount
of
units,
it's
more
that
he
needs
the
apartments
to
make
up
for
what
he's
going
to
spend
to
do
this
building
and
put
it
to
code,
because
that
Springfield
is
on
the
fire
alarm.
You've
got
to
egress
it.
He
said,
do
all
the
units
all
over.
They
don't
have
bathrooms.
H
A
Do
you
have
any
questions?
Okay,
this
is
the
public
hearing.
This
is,
we
all
have
the
first
opportunity
to
speak.
Get
this
hearing.
This
will
not
be
the
only
opportunity
you'll
have
because
this
will
go
before
the
planning
board
on
the
25th.
Then
back
here
on
August
8th.
Is
there
anyone
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this?
L
A
A
A
L
We
are
displacing
people,
we
are
not
providing
them
with
homes,
we're
basically
telling
them
they're,
not
welcoming
Chelsea
and
we're
just
lacing
a
long
time.
Your
friend,
that
serves
a
large
part
of
the
population
in
Chelsea
selling,
improving
produce,
which
is
being
here
a
long
time,
is
well
utilized
by
residents
of
Chelsea
and
provides
of
service
thanks.
Thank
you.
A
J
I'm,
not
speaking
on
a
personal
experience,
if
you
have
an
opportunity
to
go
and
see
any
of
its
buildings,
you'll
see
that
get
very
well
maintained
and
very
well
taken
care
of.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
when
Tom
and
Racino
was
the
city
manager.
He
wants
Rick
to
get
involved
in
redoing
this
building
here.
The
difference
between
what
Community
Development
is
here
to
say
is
totally
different
than
what
my
vision
is
an
approval
City.
J
U
B
John
John,
ladies
planning,
my
concern
is
relative
to
the
historical
characters,
and
this
is
a
a
historic
district,
and
this
is
a
historic
building
and
the
put
another
displacement
of
the
first
floor.
Commercial
unit
makes
a
significant
change
to
the
character
of
the
building.
I've
submitted
it
to
the
historic
district
I'm
waiting
for
the
historic
commissioner
Mike
for
the
conference.
And
what
do
you
like?
Okay,.
A
A
B
A
I
F
I
I
would
like
to
keep
the
site
exactly
the
way
that
it
is,
but
just
with
improvements
and
to
fulfill
the
abutters
concerns
we
are
just
proposing
to
keep
the
existing
structure
but
to
re
Revitalize
it
and
make
it
better.
So
this
is
the
modification
on
the
left.
This
is
the
approved
project,
so
you
can
see
it's
four
stories
and
this
is
on
a
hill.
I
So
four
stories
behind
somebody
else
is
like
10
stories
because
they're
looking
up
at
it
and
then
also
as
of
the
butter
on
my
side
like
right
now,
I
see
beautiful
pine
trees
and
the
sun
coming
up
and
I'm
going
to
be.
Looking
right
at
a
building,
so
I'd
like
to
keep
it
the
same
level
and
tone
it
down
from
that
four
stories
just
to
the
single
story:
that's
there
now.
D
I
I
Building
it's
a
six
Bay
garage
currently,
so
it
used
to
be
owned
by
the
soldiers
home
and
then
this
gentleman
purchased
it
and
he
was
so.
This
is
the
floor
plan.
It's
two
Studios
with
two
garage
faces,
so
I'm
keeping
two
garage
indoor
garage
parking
spots
with
a
two
Studio:
it's
almost
like
a
duplex,
so
it
has,
you
know
a
kitchenette.
It
has
a
living
room,
it
has
a
bedroom,
it
has
closet,
bathroom
and
then
parking
and
then
I'm
also
adding
a
rear
deck
as
a
second
means
of
egress.
A
I
So,
on
the
next
slide,
it
was
just
at
the
points
together
to
consider,
so
the
site
is
like
worn
out
it's
on
a
hill,
there's
other
people
behind
it
and
in
front
of
it.
This
structure
just
fits
better
on
the
site,
which
is
you
know,
it's
a
triangular
slope
Sprite.
So
it's
really
not
capable
of
handling
a
huge
four-story
building.
So
this
is
you
know
what
we
came
up
with
to
utilize
the
site
provide
housing,
but
also
make
it
work
for
the
neighborhood.
There
is
a
need
for
housing
in
the
area.
I
Just
as
like
a
little
example,
my
family
owned
a
plumbing
company
in
Chelsea
and
we've
had
employees
who
are
original
from
Chelsea
have
to
move
to
Lynn
to
Salem
to
Revere,
because
they
can't
find
housing
in
Chelsea.
It's
not
about
the
affordability
literally
there.
They
just
can't
find
housing.
A
lot
of
these
guys
they've
been
with
us
since
high
school
they've
grown
with
the
company,
and
you
know
they
grew
out
of
the
family
apartment
and
now
are
looking
for
a
place,
and
they
can't
find
anything.
I
So
this
is
where
we
kind
of
came
up
with
the
studios,
because
there
is
a
need
for
that.
People
are
here,
they
want
to
work,
but
they
also
want
their
independence,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we
came
up
with
the
the
housing
portion
of
it.
As
far
as
the
nature,
this
this
lot
is
not
just
a
vacant
lot,
that's
overgrown,
and
you
know
it
has
pine
trees.
It
has
maple
trees,
it
has
various
shrubs,
there's
Blue
Jays,
there's
Cardinals,
there's
owls
in
the
trees.
It's
a
beautiful
sight.
I
It's
on
the
hill,
it
overlooks
Boston,
we
don't
want
to.
You
know,
tamper
with
the
nature.
That's
already
there.
We
want
to
keep
the
green
space
and
keep
the
nature
of
the
neighborhood
instead
of
just
taking
up
the
entire
lot
with
a
huge
house.
So
in
order
to
do
that,
we're
just
going
to
keep
the
structure
that
there
and
keep
the
beautiful
nature
that
already
exists.
I
As
far
as
the
neighbors
go,
so
I
have
myself
gone
to
each
and
every
single
person
on
my
block
and
the
butters
behind
it,
and
you
know,
proposed
the
new
project
before
I
came
to
you
guys
and
just
asked
for
their
opinions.
What
did
they
think
they
love
it?
They
you
know
they
wanted
to
stay
the
way
that
it
is,
but
they
also
want
it
to
be
improved
because,
right
now
it
is
a
garage.
I
A
F
A
I
I
Mom
with
a
three-month-old
baby,
she's
at
home
right
now
and
I
wouldn't
be
here.
If
I
wasn't
passionate
about
this
project
right
now,
so
I
just
really
look,
oh
and
I
just
wanted
to
give
an
example.
So
this
was
a
project
that
was
done
around
the
corner
on
Summit
Ave.
That
was
previously
a
single
family
and
they
converted
it
to
a
two
and
it's
duplex
Style
with
parking
on
either
end.
I
So,
as
far
as
the
frontage
goes
on
the
next,
well,
not
the
next
slide
so
yeah
on
this
slide.
So
I
don't
have
any
Frontage
at
my
house
either.
So
what
I
do
is
I
do
like
potted
plants
I'm
going
to
put
a
pergola
over
the
garage
and
plant
the
vine
and
we
the
backyard
already
landscaped,
with
the
beautiful
pine
trees
and
the
neighbors.
This
property
is
an
odd
shape
and
it
really
it
impacts
not
only
Eleanor
but
also
Willard.
So
these
trees,
like
I,
said
it's
not
just
like
an
empty
lot
with.
I
You
know
overgrown
grass.
This
is
mature
pine
trees
and
maple
trees
in
the
fall.
It's
beautiful,
beautiful
foliage.
It
really
canopies
a
lot
of
the
neighbor's
yards,
so
we
I
just
don't
feel
the
need
to
have
to
go
in
there
and
do
anything
where
it's
already
manicured
in
a
way,
that's
natural
and
appeasing
to
a
lot
of
the
neighbors,
and
also
myself
as
in
a
butter.
I
Front,
oh,
no!
No!
No!
Well!
So
it
the
lot,
the
the
property,
the
way
that
it
sits.
Now
there
it's
just
exactly
right
on
the
lot
line,
so
there
wouldn't
be
I
wouldn't
be
able
to,
but
I
am
going
to
put
like
I
use,
my
house
as
an
example
because
I
also
don't
have
any
Frontage
I
put
window
boxes
in
I,
Do
seasonal
planting
every
year,
I
have
rose
bushes
out
there.
You
know
because
they're
small
enough
that
they
can
grow
up.
D
I
We're
going
to
put
a
Pergola
up
so
that
it
can,
you
know,
over
the
garage,
a
small
one
like
a
header,
so
it
can
grow
and
we'll
have
some
curb
appeal
in
yeah.
That
would
be
the
landscape
so
yeah.
So
that's
pretty
much
it
like
I,
said:
I
just
acquired
the
property
to
try
to
maintain
the
neighborhood
and
to
keep
up
with,
what's
already
there,
but
also
provide
housing
for
people
that
are
in
need
and
I
do
find
that
there
is
a
need
for
that.
I
You
know
even
for
a
retiree
somebody
who's
not
looking
to
maybe
go
to
One
North.
They
don't
need
all
the
amenities
they
just
want
single
level
living
with
a
garage
they
don't
want
to
have
to.
You
know
shovel
their
car
out
every
morning
when
it
snows.
So
this
is
kind
of
like
the
market
that
I
found.
That
is
in
need
for
something
like
this.
G
E
G
F
I
Oh
I
just
want
to
add
two
on
the
parking,
because
this
is
a
six
Bay
garage.
Now
it's
a
huge
driveway
apron.
So
what
now
we're
going
to
be
doing
is
convert
I
have
to
put
in
a
sidewalk.
So
that's
going
to
create
four
street
parking
spots
where
there
wasn't
street
parking
there
before.
So
not
only
am
I
doing
two
garage
spots,
but
also
four
street
parking
spots
will
be
created
with
the
new
sidewalk
because
that
driveway
eastland's
going
to
be
eliminated
and
it's
just
going
to
have
the
two
okay.
A
A
A
I
A
A
I
A
F
A
F
D
B
I
A
D
D
A
M
C
A
E
We
applied
well,
we
contacted
eversource
and
Verizon
back
in
September
2022
I
sent
over
the
documentation
and
I
finally
heard
back
from
Verizon
that
they
are
submitting
to
the
city
I
guess
they
have
to
submit
a
petition
to
the
city
for
a
while
right
away
for
the
Post,
because
the
wires
are
literally
on
my
bill
like
directly
above
my
building,
and
so
in
anticipation.
I
honestly
thought
this
may
have
would
have
taken
six
to
seven
months,
I
kind
of
expected
six
months.
A
A
F
A
A
H
H
It's
working
my
client,
it
was
this
week.
He
actually
didn't
finish
the
building.
He
added
a
second
story
for
his
office
came
out
really
nice
soft
brick
and
then
a
portion
of
the
back
of
the
building.
So
he
only
took
a
portion
of
the
second
floor
and
the
portion
of
the
back
is
is
open,
enter
and
why
does
any
calculate
neighbors
and
they
were
perfectly
fine
with
it
because
there's
a
yacht
behind
it
he's
almost
at
the
corner.
So
all
he
wanted
to
do
is
this
is
the
whole
sign
of
the
building.
H
B
A
W
A
Months,
do
we
have
a
request
to
extend
the
variance
Joe?
Second
Arthur,
all
in
favor?
Thank
you,
2019
36,
51,
Crescent,
Ave,
Brian,
jaspin
determined
to
be
major
or
minor
modification
to
change
the
previously
food
number
of
units.
The
previous
approval
was
for
this
is
very
confusing
to
me.
I'd
actually
draw
a
grid
for
six
two
bedrooms:
two
three
bedrooms
and
two
four
bedrooms:
the
proposed
modifications,
three
two
bedrooms:
four
three
bedrooms
and
two
four
bedrooms.
So
the
proposed
modification
increases
the
Austrian
parking
space
requirement
from
18
to
19
spaces.
X
X
51
Crescent
Ave.
We
have
the
same
number
of
units
we
built
to.
We
purchased
this
project
from
the
original
owner
who
permitted
the
project
we
purchased
Department
from
him.
The
plans
that
were
provided
to
us
are
the
plans
we
built
to
and
that
are
on
file
with
the
city.
Those
do
contain
three:
two
bedroom
units,
five,
three
bedroom
units
and
two
four
bedroom
units.