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From YouTube: Zoning Board of Appeals of 5-9-23
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City of Chelsea
A
Good
evening
my
name
is
Arthur
Arsenal
I'm,
chairman
of
the
Sony
Board
of
Appeals
into
my
left,
is
now
on
Vega,
Joan,
Cromwell
and
Hugo
padomo
and
John
the
priest
and
and
Hector.
As
a
secretary
I'm
taking
minutes,
we
will
begin
with
a
case
2022-36
69
to
71
Spencer
Ave,
ziposh
development.
B
C
1517
Grove
Street
I
just
purchased
that
property,
probably
I,
think
at
the
end
of
February
and
in
doing
so
we're
doing
some
work
there
and
at
the
same
time
notice
that
you
know
we're
on
a
one-way
Street.
There's
no
parking
on
that
side
and
there's
a
nice
area
for
a
driveway.
It
would
be
very
helpful
to
have
you
know
for
the
tenants
and
they
tell
me
I-
need
a
I
need
a
relief
because
of
the
setbacks.
A
A
So
where
would
you
put
the
the
driveway.
C
On
the
left
side
of
the
building
facing
it,
there's
enough
footage
and
we
could
put
a
car
right
here.
Driveway
I
mean
it
just
makes
sense
where
there's
if
it
was
parking
on
both
sides,
I
could
understand,
but
there's
there's
no
parking
on
that
side
and
it's
a
one-way
okay,
so
I,
don't
think
we'd
be
hurting
anybody.
A
C
Well,
we're
gonna
go
into
the
bay
tandem,
maybe
two
cars
could
fit,
but
more
than
likely
one
okay.
C
C
E
The
new
one
you
asking
for
you
know
the
measurements
are
not
the
ones
that
they're
too
small.
That
would
be
too
small
for
a
driveway
to
park
a
car
in
that
one.
C
B
E
So
you
how
what
the
measurements
you
think
on
that
side.
C
I
think
we
have
I
think
it's
at
least
nine
by
17
deep
I
mean
I
can
give
you
accurate
dimensions
for
sure
I
I.
F
E
C
We're
doing
that
we're
doing
that
area,
we're
doing
some
work
in
that
area.
Right
now
we
took
the
porches
down
in
the
building.
We're
doing
we
took
the
fence
down
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
make
enhance
that
whole
area.
C
C
F
C
D
This
hasn't
gone
before
the
planning
board.
Has
it.
B
Is
the
first
time
it's
being
heard
by
Heather,
void,
you'll,
hear
and
then
you'll
move
it
to
the
planning
board
meeting,
which
is
May
23rd.
B
A
Okay,
let's
see
you
and
go
to
the
planning
board
on
May
23rd
and
we'll
see
you
back
here
on
six.
A
Next
is
157:
let's
see,
2023-8
157
Crescent
Crescent
Ave
Mark
meets.
B
H
Good
evening,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Peter
Blaisdell
I'm,
a
registered
professional
land,
surveyor
and
engineer
at
Commonwealth
of
Massachusetts
I
work
at
Williams
and
sparages
at
189.
North
Main
Street
in
Middleton
Massachusetts
I'm
here
tonight
represent
Eminem
Realty
Trust
John.
Do
you
like
to
get
a
little
Prelude
to
this,
or
do
you
want
to
just
give
a.
A
H
So
the
reason
we're
here
this
evening
is
that
there's
a
a
lot
located
down
on
Crescent
Avenue
Lots,
approximately
20
000
square
feet
currently
vacant
all
trailer.
That's
at
the
front.
It's
used
basically
right
now
for
equipment,
storage
for
Rapid
flow.
You
may
have
seen
their
trucks,
certainly
around
Chelsea
and
around
Boston.
H
However,
as
you
all
know,
covet
hit
right
around
2019
2020
and
it
actually
had
a
very
devastating
impact
on
on
rapid
flow.
95
percent
of
the
concessions
at
Logan
Airport
closed
down
and
same
thing
with
Encore
casinos.
They
shut
down
all
the
most
of
the
restaurants
and
their
room
service
and,
as
you
could
probably
well
imagine,
Mr
meese's
business
basically
depends
on
people
going
to
the
bathroom
and
and
and
using
water
and
that
type
of
thing,
so
all
that
business
actually
just
dried
up
for
a
while.
H
You
have
to
record
it
I
apologize.
The
front
part
of
the
building
would
be
you
know,
office
that
type
of
thing,
whereas
the
rear
part
of
the
building
would
be
basically
to
pull
his
equipment
in
at
night
and
have
a
nice
secure
place
to
keep
them
from
anybody
that
wanted
to
come
in,
obviously,
and
damage
vehicles.
H
We
have
been
back
before
the
Conservation
Commission.
Luckily,
Mr
depriest
was
kind
enough
to
help
us
kind
of
work
through
that,
and
we
actually
found
that
the
covet
extension
act
actually
was
still
in
place,
so
we
were
able
to
actually
keep
that
order
conditions
extended
and
keep
on
going.
However,
the
special
permit
has
elapsed
so
we're
back
before
this
board
this
evening
to
sort
of
take
up
the
discussion
again.
Ask
any
questions.
If
you
would
like,
we
are
asking
for
relief
in
that.
H
According
to
the
zoning,
you
would
need
25
parking
spaces,
we're
only
showing
10,
but
25
spaces
is
way
more
than
he
actually
would
ever
need,
and
he
would
never
even
have
that
many
people
on
site
here
so
10
would
be
enough.
We're
also
asking
for
Relief
on
the
aisle.
H
With
of
of
the
driveway
from
24
feet
just
an
hour
and
down
two
feet
to
22
feet,
which
you
may
know
that
many
cities
in
the
area
took
like
Revere
and
such
and
such
will
have
22
feet
for
two-way
traffic
so
and
then
I
believe
there
was
one
more
John
could
probably
point
me
in
the
direction
not
having
any
off
street
parking
within
the
front
front
yard
setback.
H
We
are
showing
handicapped
van
expensive,
accessible
space
in
the
front
there
beyond
that,
because
this
is
in
a
land
subject
to
Coastal
storm
Flowage.
We
had
to
go
to
the
Conservation
Commission.
The
building
will
be
constructed
with
flood
proof
construction.
There
will
be
openings
in
the
foundation
and
the
doors
to
allow
flood
waters
to
come
in
and
out.
Hopefully
that
doesn't
happen.
H
There
is
no
no
compensatory
flood
storage
required
here,
because
you,
you
can't
flood
the
ocean.
It
is
zoned
in
light,
industrial,
too,
we
bought
up,
as
you
can
see,
to
Crescent
Avenue
and
our
back
is
to
the
railroad
bed
with
that.
If
you
have
any
questions,
it's
it's
it's
a
very
simple,
very
simple
project.
We're
trying
to
improve
it,
make
it
a
little
better
and
and
give
a
good
business
here
in
Chelsea
a
place
to
stay,
and
that's
that's
it.
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
feel
free.
E
H
No,
no
there's,
no
difference
same
same
building,
design,
same
location.
H
Nothing
nothing's
changed
every
everything
that
you
see
on
this
plan.
Here
was
the
same.
That
was
approved
last
time.
E
About
the
lighting
is
any
Lighting
on
the
back
around
the
building.
H
I
I
don't
recall
that
there
was
any
additional
freestanding
light.
Poles,
I,
believe
everything
was
just
building
mounted
full
full
cut
off,
just
downward,
throw
to
make
sure
we
don't
spill
over
onto
the
neighbors.
E
H
A
H
I
believe
I
believe
the
building
is
approximately
60
feet
wide.
The
trucks
I
believe
are
maybe
24
to
30
feet
long
and
basically
you
would
pull
in
and
then
there's
a
place
for
almost
like
a
card
or
down
the
middle
of
you
can
drive
into
both
sides
of
the
building,
either
way
so
there's
room
for
12
trucks
to
come
in
and
then
once
you
park
and
secure
your
vehicle,
you
can
get
out
and
then
walk
either
out
the
back
door
or
you
can
go
up
into
the
offices
so
they're,
not
tractor
trailers.
H
D
H
No
just
just
the
the
big
vehicles
when
they
have
to
go
out
and
clean
out
a
catch,
Basin
or
or
clean
a
sewer
line.
They
have
those.
Now
that
I've
mentioned
it,
you'll,
probably
see
them
around
town
rapid
flow
yeah.
H
Would
be
for
employees
or
or
customers
or
visitors?
Okay,.
E
E
Yeah,
that's
just
a
no
park
zone;
no,
no,
they
won
before
it
just
kind
of
goes
out
and
then
covers
like
a
loop
like
the
square
by
the
arrow.
You
know
it
says
one
way:
oh
adjacent
to
the
building
here
on
this
on
the
property
line,
there's
a
kind
of
square.
H
H
Just
just
to
just
to
break
up
the
the
parking
spaces
a
little
bit:
okay,.
A
Thank
you
any
further
questions.
Okay,
this
is
a
public
hearing.
Is
there
any
any
question
from
the
from
the
public?
A
Okay,
seeing
none
I
will
keep
open
the
public
speaking
portion
and
John,
give
me
I.
A
A
Okay!
Sorry
about
that
I'm
gonna
have
2023-07
4345
Blossom
Street,
43,
Blossom,
Street
development.
I
Good
evening,
Mr
chairman
Anthony
Rossi
members
aboard
anything
Austin
application.
I
have
just
a
quick
question
because
I'm
waiting
for
one
more
person
to
have
the
architect
here
is
it's
just
going
to
be
a
full
member
board
voting
next
time.
Every
sign
of
this
yes,
so
could
I
have
a
brief
second
call.
Just
so
I
can
let
them
aware
of
how
it
works.
I,
don't
know
if
they'll
wear
my
client,
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
hear.
I
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
okay.
So
then
we're
going
on
to
the
next
case:
2023-09
8385,
Library
Street,
Mark
text,
Sarah,
Maria
text,
Sarah.
J
Good
evening,
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
board,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Richard
Linz
I'm,
an
attorney
with
a
business
address
of
245
Sumner
Street
in
Boston
here
on
behalf
of
the
petitioner
for
Library
Street
Mr
chairman.
J
B
J
J
F
B
J
Good
evening
again,
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
board
for
the
record
Richard
Lin's
245
Sumner
Street
Boston,
on
behalf
of
the
petitioner
I've,
submitted
a
letter
to
Mr
depriest,
as
well
as
the
board
secretary
requesting
a
continuance
of
this
matter
this
evening.
I
believe
my
client
is
in
the
process
of
speaking
to
specific,
budding
Property
Owners
about
this
presentation.
J
B
A
So
what
is
does
what's
the
board
feel
about
moving
this
to.
J
I,
if
I
can
just
inquire
Mr
chairman
the
members
who
are
voting
tonight
because
we're
not
officially
opening
the
hearing
I
believe
are
not
the
necessarily
the
same
members
that
have
to
sit.
We
don't
need
only
those
formats.
So,
even
if
these
four
members
are
here
as
additional
members,
those
members
are
allowed
to
sit
as
well
as
long
as
the
hearing
is
not.
J
D
K
K
It's
an
insult
for
them
to
come
tonight
with
a
letter,
and
in
the
letter
it
states
that
different
communication
with
me
I
want
to
make
the
clear
the
record
is
a
partner
of
his
who
I
know
reached
out
to
me
to
ask
me
if
there's
any
common
ground,
there's
no
common
ground
they
want
to
they
want
if
they
want
to
do
a
development.
We're
not
opposed
to
development
needs
to
be
the
right
kind
of
development
for
our
neighborhood.
J
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I,
believe
the
fact
that
you
do
have
a
four
number
board
as
well.
I
know
that
the
statute
certainly
allows
for
the
quorum
to
be
present,
but
this
does
require
unanimous
vote
for
any
action
that
has
to
be
taken.
If
you
are
a
five-member
board,
you
certainly
can
have
four
out
of
the
five
members
voting
for
a
particular
action.
J
B
J
My
understanding
is,
my
client
is
Mr.
The
counselors
indicated
has
had
some
preliminary
conversations.
It's
a
the
part
of
my
client
has
and
I
think.
There
was
further
conversation
that
was
supposed
to
be
had
regarding
that
I.
Don't
have
my
architect
or
my
client
here
tonight,
so
I
apologize
for
that,
but
I'm
respectfully
requesting
it
continues
to
the
13th.
L
G
J
A
Airing
it
is
Blossom
Street,
are
we
all
set
for
Boss.
B
I
B
I
I
A
M
N
Good
evening,
members
of
the
board,
Mr
depriest
with
me
at
David
mendlin,
representing
the
petitioner
with
me,
is
Elaine
chittopoulos,
who
is
the
daughter
of
the
property
owner
Stella
Lewis,
who
is
in
a
nursing
home
due
to
various
physical
and
dementia
related
issues.
N
So
Elaine
is
the
one
who's
been
managing
the
property
taking
care
of
it,
trying
to
do
the
best
for
the
property
in
the
neighborhood.
So
what
we're
here
for
today
is
this
all
started
with
Elaine
innocently
Paving
Elaine.
If
you
want
to
stand
up
there
and
point
to
exactly
what
you
did,
she
paved
an
unpaved
portion
of
the
parking
lot
adjacent
to
125
Ash
Street.
So
why
don't
you
just.
N
That
was
formerly
a
dirt
area
along
the
fences.
The
problem
was
that
rats
were
coming
in
under
the
fence,
that
neighborhood
has
a
terrible
rat
problem
and
the
neighbors
have
found
and
Elaine
found
as
well
that
Paving
under
the
fence
virtually
eliminates.
That
problem
well
come
to
find
that
she
needed
a
permit
to
do
that.
N
What
she
has
done,
it
out
is
come
up
with
a
parking
plan
that
this
is
the
house.
Each
of
the.
There
are
three
lots
here:
they're
four
fourteen
hundred
fifty
square
feet,
each
two:
three
family,
two,
three
bedroom
and
one
two
bedroom
apartment
in
the
house.
Formerly
she
said
on
average
three
cars
would
park
in
this
unmarked
area.
After
it's
been
paved
and
this
problem
arose.
She
came
up
with
this
parking
plan
that
provides
six
spaces
which
is
what's
needed
for
the
building.
N
Unfortunately,
there
are
18
approximately
18
and
a
half
feet
wide,
rather
than
the
eight
and
a
half
feet
wide.
Rather
than
the
nine
that's
required
and
the
aisle
is
not
the
24
feet,
that's
required.
It's
about.
17
feet
also
compromises
the
open
space,
but
it's
almost
a
catch-22:
you're,
eliminating
the
rodent
problem,
you're
providing
off
street
parking
for
all
three
units,
but
you
need
a
variance
and
special
permit
to
do
it
and
that's
what
she's
looking
to
do,
and
unfortunately,
that
does
compromise
the
open
space
somewhat.
N
We're
correct
there
would
be
parking
where
I'm
standing
there'd
be
parking
where
I'm
standing
pretty
much
against
the
line.
That's
parallel
to
Ash
Street
itself.
So
again,
right
now,
I
think
what
you're
showing
me
the
truck
is
parked
here,
but
there
would
be
parked
here.
Instead.
E
N
Will
be
marked
once
hopefully,
once
the
board
approves
the
petitions,
the
line
the
lot
will
be
lined
and
the
spaces
will
be
more
clearly,
but
if
I'm
sorry
go
ahead,
no
I
was
just
going
to
say.
If
you
look
at
some
of
the
other
pictures
we
provided
over
here
is
Rent-A-Center
and
it's
a
kind
of
a
dirty
vacant
lot
than
with
the
industrial
building
there,
some
of
the
neighbors
across
the
street.
We
included
one
picture
there
too.
Their
lot
is
totally
paved
I
think
they
were
having
a
party
out
there.
N
N
E
O
B
I
have
a
question:
okay,
how
are
you
going
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
parking
in
these
setbacks.
B
B
A
A
For
the
last
case,
for
okay-
sorry
all
right,
so
the
last
case
is
2021-08
157
163,
Chestnut,
Street,
Michael
Viano.
A
It's
a
modification
to
a
current
plan.
Yes,.
L
Yep,
it's
no
name
and.
L
L
Okay
and
Mr
Bernard
was
requesting
a
a
modification
to
the
existing
proposed
units
in
157
163
Chestnut
Street.
He
is
looking
that
14
units
be
owner
occupied
and
that
the
16
units
be
rental,
16
units
would
be
163
Chestnut
and
the
owner
occupied
157
is
what
he
is
requesting.
B
So
originally
I'm,
sorry
man,
so
originally
it
was
approved
with
the
church
being
the
ownership
Unit
16
units
being
in
there
and
14
units
being
in
the
new
building
where
the
rectory
was
as
rental.
So
your
op
you're
asking
to
switch
it
so
that
the
rectory
building
becomes
the
ownership
and
the
church
becomes
the
rental
that.
A
L
B
Well,
there
is,
there
is
an
effect
in
that
with
16
units.
Well
may
not,
but
the.
B
B
L
And
I
think
the
original
was
approved
for
six
and
those
according
to
Mr
Burnell.
Those
will
remain
in
place.
B
B
Three
and
then
14
times,
0.15
equals
2.1,
so
it's
still
six
and
and
is
Mr
vineyu,
proposing
to
how
many
affordable
rentals
and
how
many
affordable
owner
occupied
is
the
is
he
proposing.
L
L
B
B
Affordable
rentals
and
three
affordable
owner
occupy
keep
keep
the
same
ratio
that
you
had
they
approved
for
the
last
one
correct.
D
B
F
B
D
D
F
O
A
Makes
a
motion
that
yeah
make
a
motion?
I
can't
talk.
E
Emotion
to
to
approve
the
modification
be
in
minor
at
the
case:
2021-08
157
and
163
Chestnut
Street.
Second,.