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From YouTube: Inspiring Generations with Celeste Williams EP3
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Guest: Grace McKinnon, Video Production by Chelsea Cable TV
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Well,
she
was
an
entertainer
and
a
social
activist.
Yes,
she
was
also
a
teacher.
She
was
a
college
professor
and,
as
everyone
knows,
her
early
days
were
very
chaotic
and
she
was
on
the
wrong
side
of
the
tracks
and
she
got
herself
into
and
out
of
all
kinds
of
shenanigans,
but
she
took
that
opportunity
to
tell
her
story
through
her
autobiography
and
inspired
generations
like
myself
and
yourself.
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Lewis,
she
was
part
of
the
civil
rights
era
and
she
did
actually
work
with
stokely
carmichael.
A
lot
of
the
entertainers
bill.
Cosby
actually
was
involved
as
well
sidney
poitier
and
she
helped
them
get
in
connection
with
mahalia
jackson,
martin
luther
king
wow,
the
southern,
the
student
nonviolent
coordinating
committee
whoa.
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All
right,
because
we
already
covered
it's
worth
a
reminder:
yeah,
it's!
Okay,
all
right!
It's!
Okay!
Okay,
because
you
know
that
pan-africanism
and
I
know
a
pan-africanism,
but
I
will
state
it
again
for
our
audience:
okay,
okay,
so
pan-africanism
is
a
movement
that
started
throughout
the
the
caribbean,
central
america,
and
that
is
the
view
of
that
region
on
black
history.
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So
now
we
want
to
talk
about
her
voice,
okay-
and
this
may
be
very
important
to
you
if
you're
watching
this
program
today
we're
going
to
talk
about
if
you
lose
your
voice
and
how
you
can
have
other
outlets
and
other
channels
to
express
yourself.
So
let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
maya
losing
her
voice.
Yes,
at
a
young
age,
yes,.
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Yeah
but
the
black
community
had
developed
self-sufficiency
in
certain
levels.
You
could
usually
find
a
black
this,
a
black
that,
for
example,
in
my
family,
in
dover,
delaware.
We
had
a
black
dentist
that
everybody
went
to
dr
dennis
and
everybody
went
to
a
certain
grocer.
That
was,
if
not
black
was
black
friendly,
so
that
we
could
sustain
ourselves
with
a
sense
of
integrity
and.
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We
migrated
looking
for
jobs,
it
was
economic
looking
for
land.
We
needed
some
place
to
expand
into
and
to
populate
and
going
west
was
a
great
great
draw.
So
you'll
find
a
lot
of
all
black
towns
in
oklahoma
arkansas
and
they
had
a
very
rich
rich
heritage.
You
know
people
don't
often
mention
not
just
the
black
farmers,
the
relationships
with
the
native
american
indians.
Well,
the
indians,
as
they
were
known.
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So
from
what
I
know
about
you,
I
know
that
you
were
a
military,
brat
brat,
that's
what
they
called
us.
You
never
wish.
I
say
that
about
yourself
and
I
appreciate
you
being
so
forward
about
it
and
you
also
expressed
that
you
traveled
yes
and
so
as
a
as
a
child.
Yes,
so
how
was
your
experiences
moving
from
different
areas
to
wind
up
coming
to
chelsea
massachusetts.
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Achievement
at
18
he
wanted
to
join
the
air
force
and
he
stipulated
the
air
force
as
opposed
to
the
army,
because
it
was
a
new
branch
of
service
and
you
had
to
be
tested
in
yeah.
It
wasn't
just
any
old
body
like
the
army
right
and
it
was
a
prestige
service
and
they
had
just
recently
desegregated
the
troops.
Okay,
people
don't
realize
that
in
world
war
one
and
world
war
ii,
black
people
served
yes,.
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To
oregon,
when
I
was
six
from
oregon
back
to
delaware
from
delaware
went
to
visit
family
in
north
carolina,
then
my
mother
had
a
baby
and
waited
for
the
baby
to
get
old
enough
for
us
to
meet
my
father
in
germany,
okay,
where
we
stayed
for
three
years
by
then
I
was
coming
out
of
junior
high
school
from
there
we
went
back
to
the
united
states.
Again
I
have
crisscrossed.
I
have
memorized
entire
parts
of
the.
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You
know
went
to
florida
came
back,
I
ended
up
graduating
high
school
in
england
and
I
had
to
stay
in
england
a
year.
My
mother
wanted
me
to
go
to
cambridge
university,
but
I
had
been
so
long
out
of
the
country.
It's
like
no
I'm
an
american.
I
want
to
be
a
yankee
and
I
yeah.
I
came
back,
went
to
college
in
boston
and
had
a
chance
to
come
and
work
with
community
organizers
in
east
boston,
okay
and
they
wanted
to
start
a
program
in
chelsea
called
the
chelsea
citywide
special
summer
program
yeah.
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You
know
you've
rebounded
well.
Well,
thank
you
so
much
yeah
I
was
in
the
80s
crisis.
I
was
still
trying
to
find
myself.
I
was
a
single
mom.
I
didn't
want
to
give
up
on
my
child.
I
don't
want
to
give
up
on
my
family,
which
family
is
the
highlight
of
this
black
history
month.
It
is
you
know,
that's
the
national
theme
and
when
I
think
back
of
what
drove
me
to
wake
up
and
love
myself
a
little
bit
more
than
I
was
and
losing
hope
in
my
city,
where.
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Landmark
legislation
like
brown
versus
the
board
of
education:
it
was
the
civil
rights
era
just
starting
to
get
into
full
glory
and
the
communities
through
the
black
church
and
social
services
and
education
to
the
hbcs.
The
historic
black
colleges
were
really
committed
to
a
child
shall
lead
them.
They
invested
in
my
generation,
looking
for
what's
called
the
best
and
brightest,
the
talented
tenth
to
be
soldiers
to
go
forward
and
pioneer
through
integration
segregation
and
to
stand
like
I
said
my
father
was
military
and
I
remember
the
instructions
like
you
would
give
to
a
soldier.
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Now
we
were
in
california,
and
a
bunch
of
the
kids
were
playing
in
the
backyard.
It
was
a
military
cluster
in
a
civilian
setting.
We
were
off
base
okay,
so
we
had
all
grown
up
at
five
years
old
with
all
kinds
of
everybody
around
us
and
one
little
girl
was
talking
to
one
little
boy
and
the
little
boy
said
oh
and
you're
black
and
she
said
no,
and
he
looked
at
me
and
he
said
well,
yeah.
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No,
no,
you
can't
play
with
him
anymore
and
she
asked
her
father.
Why
and
her
father
said
he
marcus
was
the
n-word
and
marcus
didn't
understand,
n-word.
Really
he
really
didn't
understand
that
n-word,
but
he
knew
he
had
been
rejected,
not
by
her,
because
she
didn't
even
understand
it.
She
was
young.
She,
you
know
this.
You
know
she.
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Had
a
chance
to
observe
and
learn
the
ways
of
the
master
culture,
okay
and
what
people
didn't
realize
is
that
subversively
you
go
back
home
and
you
teach
your
children
and
your
grandchildren
how
to
perform
and
get
over
with
the
barriers
that
they're
being
presented
that
are
being
presented
for
you
as
a
black
person.
You
know
my
my
grandmother,
god
bless
her
soul
was
the
smartest
girl
in
her
class
bart,
none,
but
unfortunately
at
15
or
fortunately,
in
my
case,
my
sweet,
charming
grandfather
decided.
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Where
I
started
my
education,
I
was
called
to
the
dean's
office.
He
got
so
excited,
he
said
you're
mickey's
granddaughter
and
I
was
greeted
like
royalty
and
again
the
expectation
was
we're
going
to
help
you
succeed,
you're
going
to
have
the
best
opportunities.
We
can
give
you,
but
you
will
be
expected
to
perform
at
a
higher
standard,
no
excuses.
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Where
we
should
go
next,
what
black
lives
matter
does?
Is
it
takes
it
back
to
a
unifying
principle?
Yes,
okay.
We
are
doing
this
because
we
want
people
to
know
there
were
times
in
our
history
recent
and
past,
where
the
diminution
of
black
life
was
clear,
wasn't
just
lynchings.
It
wasn't
just
economic
slavery.
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It's
very
important
for
people
to
recognize
that
the
slavery
of
one
group
over
another
has
extended
throughout
time.
Okay,
and
I
take
issue
with
people
letting
that
be
the
end
of
the
sentence.
Okay,
I
really
have
a
problem
with
people
competing
who's.
The
bigger
victim,
the
jews
were
victims,
the
irish
famine.
They
were
victims.
You
know.
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I
personally,
I
understand
politically
why
organizations
are
necessary,
big
organizations,
but
I
also
recognize
that
it's
easy
for
them
to
lose
their
steam
and
to
not
satisfy
the
individual
constituents,
because
it's
a
vainglorious
opportunity
to
go
on
stage.
It's
a
performance,
okay
and
yeah.
You
need
that
charismatic
leadership
to
draw
in
yeah
people,
but
I
truly
believe
that
you
start
where
you
are
yeah
as
an
individual.
Retain
your
power,
the.
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I
can
be,
I
have
so
much
respect
for
you
for
bringing
some
clarity
to
these
subjects
and
when
I
was
a
teenager,
I
think
that's
why
I
chose
to
just
dance
through
the
whole
teens,
because
when
I
went
into
the
dance
world
there
was
in
art
in
general
there
was
none
of
that.
You
know
bickering
back
and
forth.
You
know
about
about
your
skin
color.
You
brought
your
character,
you
know
you
brought
your
shimmy
like
maya
did.
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Speak
when
spoken
to
children
are
to
be
seen
and
not
heard
yeah,
you
know,
don't
be
a
problem
exactly
and
I
was
like
okay
values.
That's
what
she
said.
Okay,
she
said.
I'm
gonna
sign
you
up
for
debate
class
right.
She
was
the
debate
teacher.
I
was
like
debate.
That
sounds
boring
right.
You
know
she
said
no,
you
will
speak
my
I
topped
out
in
the
99th
percentile
on
that
test,
the
standardized
test
for
english
and
she
was
like.
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You
have
a
phenomenal
vocabulary
in
you.
That's
a
body
not
just
words.
It's
the
body
of
knowledge.
That
goes
with
it.
Yes,
the
curiosity
that
goes
with
it.
So
I
want
you
to
join
the
debate.
Team.
Take
forensics,
learn
about
all
kinds
of
different
speaking
forums,
master
them
yeah.
That
will
be
your
way
to
college.
Okay.
That
will
be
your
extracurricular
and.
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Can
you
give
us
a
few
tips
on
how
we
can
overcome
those
things?
Because
a
lot
of
us
are
in
the
house?
Yes
and
we're
not,
you
know
getting
to
see
each
other,
and
I
know
you
you
like
going
to
the
senior
center
and
I
used
to
love
when
you
come,
because
you
know
that
sociability
we
had
yes
and
the
great
conversations
and
and
interacting
with
our
latino
seniors.
They
love
you
just
give
our
audience
a
few
words
of
inspiration.
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We
can
still
take
care
of
business
for
ourselves
in
this
seclusion.
Okay,
it
was
moments
of
seclusion
and
isolation
that
led
me
to
explore
a
passion
which
was
words
and
communication.
Follow
your
passion.
It
may
be
art,
it
may
be
dancing,
it
may
be
political
science
film,
making
whatever
it
is.
That
makes
you
want
to
do
it
again
tomorrow
and
tomorrow.
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I
would
pick
that
for
the
young
people
I
would
say
this
is
your
opportunity
to
explore
for
self
by
self
that
creates
a
power
dynamic
that
will
sustain
you,
self-reliance
that
we
talked
about
before
you
don't
have
to
be
marcus
garvey
with
a
gravedigger
father.
You
don't
have
to
be
grace
mckinnon
with
a
military
father,
someone
to
teach
you
self-reliance,
you
can
choose
it
and
it
will
lead
you
to
power.