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From YouTube: Planning Board Meeting of 6-27-23
Description
City of Chelsea
B
B
B
D
Good
evening,
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
board,
Anthony
Rossi
behalf
of
the
petitioner
I,
don't
have
my
glasses
tonight,
so
I
apologize
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
just
look
at
the
screen.
So
essentially,
this
project
that
you
see
here
is
an
existing
four
family
structure
and
it
was
a.
There
was
a
fire
on
the
property.
My
clients
have
acquired
the
property
and
looking
to
convert
it
from
a
four
to
a
six
family.
The
bedroom
count
will
not
change
whatsoever.
D
A
D
So
if
you
look
at
the
the
building,
this
is
what
it
looks
like
now:
we're
actually
decreasing
the
height,
and
it's
going
to
look
just
like
this,
so
these
are
the
first
two
floors
of
the
building.
The
third
floor
will
match:
what's
existing,
so
it's
actually
going
to
be
more
aesthetically
pleasing
in
the
front
and
the
porches
are
coming
off
the
back.
So
the
footprint
of
the
building
itself
will
not
change.
It's
actually
decreasing
a
little
bit,
but
more
aesthetically
it'll
be
more
uniform
to
what
the
current
houses
should
be
as
the
other
two
floors.
D
Yes,
so
you
can
actually
see
the
house
now
how
it
is
like
a
dormer.
So
now
it
would
be
matching
what's
here,
but
all
brand
new,
the
porches
will
come
off
and
so
forth.
It
already
has
a
parking
lot
in
the
back
on
the
side.
So
if
we
actually
took
this
one
pocket
space
off
added,
more
green
space
and
has
more
than
enough
parking
to
suffice,
what's
on
what's
being
proposed,
and
then
we
have
a
green
space
in
the
back
of
the
building,
so
you
can
see
this
how
it's
set
up.
D
D
Yes,
and
as
far
as
safe
playing
right
now,
this
building
has
no
runoff
water
storm
water.
Containment
what's
being
proposed.
Now
is
six
cult
Tech
Systems
in
the
driveway
to
absorb
any
groundwater
that
comes
storm
water
off
the
building
which
is
being
proposed.
We
took
parking
spaces
away
from
the
front
and
we
put
parking
spaces
in
the
back
of
the
property,
and
we
added
more
green
space
here
in
here.
So
now
it's
I
and
remember
before
you
had
decks
here.
D
The
decks
are
now
gone,
so
this
affords
more
green
space
and
also
more
green
space
in
the
front
and
in
the
rear
of
the
property.
As
far
as
that's
concerned
and
I
want
to
specify.
As
far
as
zoning
relief
is
concerned,
you
can
see
that
everything
is
compliant
other
than
the
existing
structure.
The
front
yard
setback,
it's
pre-existing,
non-conforming
they're,
not
making
it
bigger.
D
It's
just
it's
it's
a
special
apartment,
because
it's
already
there,
the
only
Relief
really
being
sought
by
variance,
even
though
that's
not
in
the
preview
of
the
board,
is
just
to
talk
about
that
the
amount
of
units
square
footage
per
unit.
That's
the
only
trigger
because
we're
going
from
four
to
six
but
nothing's,
really
changing
as
far
as
bedroom
counts.
It's
going
to
be
a
better
building
and
I
will
note.
Now
the
building
will
be
fully
sprinkled
fire
alarm
in
today's
codes,
because
it's
going
to
be
a
full
gut
and
addition
building.
D
D
D
D
They
were
I'm,
not
sure,
if
they're
here
but
they're
at
the
zba
meeting,
and
they
saw
the
the
changes
and
everything's
being
proposed
and
they're
very
happy
that
how
it's
being
broke
into
Pockets
right
now,
it's
so
many
bedrooms
and
and
the
way
it
was
being
operated.
Prior
to
my
clients,
ownership
was
almost
like
rooms
being
rented
and
now
this
is
something
more
that
they
want
to
see
and
they
like
how
the
aesthetic
of
the
buildings
would
be
all
done
over
and
sprinkler
building
and
the
parking
and
more
green
space.
D
D
All
the
butter
is
made
aware-
and
we've
spoken
to
I've
spoken
personally
with
three
of
others
on
this,
and
we
showed
him
the
plans
and-
and
we
even
make
changes
to
it-
they
actually
like
what
was
being
proposed.
They
liked
what
my
client
was
doing
and
they
were
very
happy
with,
what's
being
turned
about,
I
think
the
only
question
someone
had
was
if
the
tree
in
front
of
the
property
was
going
to
remain
and
they
brought
that
up
and
I
said:
that's
really
not
I
preview,
because
it's
on
city
property.
D
F
A
G
C
D
F
If
could
we
add
it
with
a
condition
that
the
that
the
developers
consult
with
the
city
about
heat
mitigation,
white
roofs,
that
sort
of
thing
could
we
approve
it
with
the
condition
that
the
the
developers
consult
with
the
city
to
do
an
appropriate
plan
for
heat
mitigation
with
either
white
roofs?
Or
you
know
some
sort
of
a
reasonable
plan
like
I?
Would
I
wouldn't
want
to
discourage
them
from
doing
solar
just
to
have
a
white
roof?
Of
course,.
F
Okay,
so
then
I'll
make
a
motion
to
to
recommend
this
to
the
zba
with
the
standard
conditions,
as
applicable
with
a
design
review,
Landscaping
plan
exterior
lighting
plan,
that's
International,
dark
sky
compliant,
good
quality,
opaque
fence
along
the
frontage
at
the
existing
parking
space
to
partly
screen
the
parking,
good
quality
fence
along
the
Westerly
property
line,
no
rental
or
lease
for
less
than
12
months.
Tenants
of
the
building
will
be
ineligible
to
participate
in
the
sticker
program.
C
G
D
If
I
made
Mr
chairman
again
and
members
of
the
board
Anthony
Ross,
we
have
the
petitioner.
This
was
a
project
that
was
before
you
in
the
past,
maybe
like
two
three
months
ago
about
rivian,
taking
a
portion
of
the
building
and
so
forth.
Since
then,
we've
sat
down
with
John
and
also
Colin
planning
regarding
because
they
rezone
this
district
and
had
a
potential
you
know
future
use.
My
client
also
has
engaged
rivian
and
I
understand.
They
do
have
an
agreement
in
place.
D
Subject
to
this
and
one
of
the
things
to
show
a
commitment
and
hoping
that
this
property
can
be
redeveloped
in
the
future
for
even
other
uses,
while
we're
seeking
for
approval
for
this
use
is
only
limited
for
five
years.
So
that
way,
if
everything
is
good
in
five
years-
and
we
have
another
operator
great,
if
it
isn't,
then
we
come
back
before
the
board.
Also,
what
we
did
is
we
limited
the
amount
of
space,
so
so,
if
you're
entering
I'm
sorry,
if
I'm
blocking
people
actually
like
foreign.
D
Thank
you.
So,
as
you
know,
this
is
the
entryway
here.
So
when
working
with
the
city,
we
created
a
green,
a
green
space,
this
is
all
paved
so
we're
going
to
create
a
whole
green
area,
and
this
is
a
pretty
large
area,
so
we're
looking
at
this
is.
If
someone
does
come
and
looking
to
put
a
structure
on
a
site,
we
can
incorporate
this
as
a
site
to
put
a
structure
on
it
here.
D
These
are
the
sword
vehicles
from
merivian,
which
again
you
won't
see
these
from
the
street,
because
the
way
it's
angled-
and
these
are
the
stored
Vehicles
by
by
putting
them
in
this
manner,
we
created
more
space
to
add
a
potential
future
site
here,
and
this
is
all
paved
it'll
now
be
changed,
and
this
is
the
actual
roadway
coming
in,
which
also
be
paved
and
also
has.
We
also
have
a
lighting
plan
coming
through,
and
this
will
be
gated
if
someone's
asking
on
this
entrance,
so
they're
becoming
in
and
out
of
this
area.
D
This
is
a
two-way
Lane.
The
actual
existing
building
itself
will
still
have
over
40
spaces
for
the
building.
The
current
owner
of
the
property
has
to
stay
there,
I
believe
until
June
of
next
year.
So
what
we're
doing
so,
what
we're
going
to
once
they
vacate
the
property
rivian
will
be
taking
a
portion
of
the
building
to
operate
the
repair
Auto
the
same
manner,
they've
done
in
the
other
locations
and
training
at
this
site.
They
expect
anywhere
between
five
to
ten
employees
to
come
in.
D
Hopefully,
lab
space
biotech
space
What
have
not,
which
is
why
we
wanted
to
keep
as
much
parking
as
we
can
for
the
building.
So
we
worked
with
the
city
in
not
having
this
be
a
longer
period
of
time.
So
if
there
is
a
development
that
can
come
around
with
the
current
new
zoning,
we
have
a
system
in
place
that
a
good
portion
of
the
building
will
be
available
and
another
site
could
be
available.
D
At
the
same
time,
have
my
client
acquire
the
property
put
Ruby,
and
then
they
have
to
solve
one
of
their
problems
and
use
that
Revenue
to
redo
the
whole
building
and
the
site
and
the
landscape,
and
so
this
reworked
hand
in
hand
with
the
city,
multiple
meetings
with
John
and
with
Kyle,
who
help
with
the
zoning
to
put
something
here
that
actually
works
for
everybody
and
that's
pretty
much.
What
we
got
here
and
and
rivian
would
be
the
user
on
this
site
and
I'll
loudly.
C
C
D
Don't
think
it's
been
set
in
stone,
I
think
if
it
would
it'd
probably
be
somewhere
over
here
and-
and
that
would
be
somebody
to
signage-
is
always
controlled
by
purview
of
this
with
John
and
wherever
they
want
and
how
they
want
it.
To
look,
but
I
would
assume
would
be
right
where
you
come
in
right
there,
because
there'd
be
the
main
user.
Initially.
D
D
F
F
F
D
E
Recommend
that
the
paving
material
be
as
light
a
color
as
possible
for
the
same
reasons,
we
wanted
the
white
roof,
because
this
is
a
vast
area
that
might
even
be
a
requirement
within
the
airport
overlay
District.
But
the
idea
is
to
not
contribute
anymore
to
the
heat
island
effect
than
what's
already
happening.
With
these
large
paved
areas.
Yeah.
D
Well,
the
site
is
currently
fully
paved
we're
actually
going
to
be
unpaving
a
huge
portion.
That's
a
large
portrait
in
the
front
we're
going
to
make
that
all
green
space,
so
we're
gonna
have
to
not
only
get
rid
of
the
soil.
We're
gonna
have
to
get
rid
of
the
actual
Asphalt
in
about
seven
inches
underneath
and
bring
new
topsoil
on,
but.
E
D
Wish
I
had
the
answer
because
I
don't
have
the
the
engineer
is
in
Lynn,
but
I
thought
they
I
could
have
sworn
that
was
already
repaved.
If,
if
it
wasn't,
repaved
and
I
could
talk
to
the
city
about
this,
because
it's
only
really
going
to
be
for
storage
or
vehicles
and
those
the
large
section,
maybe
a
crushed
stone
product
can
be
put
down
instead
of
pavement
and
I.
Don't
think
my
client
would
probably
have
a
problem
with
that.
It'd
be
a
lot
cheaper.
J
J
Stick
in
the
front
lawn
and
something
in
a
space
in
a
city
that,
in
a
part
of
the
city
that
I
think
has
great
potential
I
I,
just
like
even
in
A
Five-Year
Plan
did
you
know
we,
the
city
has
no,
we
course
it's
a
private
property.
You
could
just
put
a
you,
could
put
AstroTurf
out
there
for
all
I
know
so
I.
We.
D
C
J
K
J
C
I'm,
pretty
I'm,
pretty
soothe
I
the
Prospect
that
the
planning
board
is
going
to
be
able
to
review
everything.
That's
going
on
in
2028
and
I.
Think
that's
going
to
be
an
opportunity
to
say
this
property
is
absolutely
trashed,
it's
gross,
it
isn't
serving
Chelsea,
but
I
think
this
is
a
great
short-term
plan.
Considering
it's.
It
is
an
ugly
plot.
F
A
As
the
counselor
indicated
that
he
did
meet
with
me
and
with
Carl,
and
when
this
plan
was
devised
in
consultation
with
him
and
both
Hal
and
I
are
comfortable
with
it,
but
before
your
list
of
conditions
I
put
five
years,
the
counselors
are
comfortable
with
that
as
well.
The
board
the
two
departments
are
recommending
approval.
Okay,
as
Eric
indicated,
what's
the
alternative?
What's
the
alternative,
but
this
is
better
than
what
is
there
now.
E
B
D
A
D
Yeah
I
just
wanted
when
it
says
it
was
not
transferable
I'm
saying
if
it's
under
the
owner's
name,
the
owner
is
going
to
be
selling
it
to
my
client
and
I
want
to
make
it
very
clear
that
my
client,
who
is
buying
the
property
as
long
as
it's
in
his
name.
We
have
no
objection
because
he's
the
gonna
be
the
one
buying
the
property.
That's
why?
D
B
A
Ideally,
all
three
Parcels
would
have
been
provided
in
one
application.
However,
that
was
not
the
case.
I
pointed
it
out
to
in
my
report,
and
the
applicant's
attorney
recognize
that,
just
prior
to
the
zba
meeting
it
was,
it
was
continuing
to
allow
for
the
applic
the
applicant
to
send
in
the
81
Library
Street
application,
so
they
can
both
be
determined
together.
M
Thank
you.
Thank
you
and
good
evening.
Mr
chairman
and
three
to
the
members
of
the
record.
My
name
is
Richard
Linz
I'm,
an
attorney
with
the
business
address
of
245
Sumner
Street
in
East
Boston,
representing
Maria
texera,
who
was
with
us
here
this
evening
regarding
the
applications
that
are
before
the
planning
board,
it's
probably
best
to
jump.
If
we
could
jump
to
the
initial
survey
plan
John
to
explain
what
precisely
we're
trying
to
do
here.
M
So,
as
John
had
indicated,
we
do
have
three
applications
technically,
because
we
are
proposing
two
separate
two
family
dwellings
that
are
located
adjacent
to
the
existing
single-family
dwelling,
that
is,
on
a
separately
assessed
parcel
because
these
properties
have
come
into
common
ownership.
They
determine
merged
under
chapter
48
for
purposes
of
zoning,
since
the
existing
building
would
not
be
in
Conformity
with
the
Chelsea
zoning
code.
Current
zoning
would
suggest
that
all
of
this
parcel
together
is
now
one
parcel,
despite
the
fact
that
they
were
held
separately.
M
So
therefore,
in
order
to
proceed
with
our
proposal
for
the
two
two
families,
we
in
effect
need
the
subdivision
of
the
property
from
the
existing
single
family,
even
though
they
are
technically
two
separate
Lots.
That
would
leave
the
existing
structure
and
2100
square
feet,
which
is
where
it
sits
today,
and
then
we
are
creating
two
separate
Lots
with
respect
to
the
proposed
2-2
families.
Perhaps
you
can
jump
back
John
just
so
we
can
get
a
look
at
the
yeah,
maybe
one
two
more.
M
M
They
would
be
attached,
the
each
of
them
would
be
attached.
As
I
said,
townhouse
style.
We
are
proposing
a
common
driveway
in
between
the
buildings
that
would
access
a
parking
area
located
to
the
rear
of
both
of
these
properties.
There
would
be
two
parking
spaces
for
each
of
those
units.
There
would
be
a
range
in
a
tandem
fashion,
so
each
unit
would
have
a
two
tandem
spaces
and
if
we
want
to
jump
down,
I
think
we
do
have
a
landscape
and
site
plan
as
well
that
we
can
review,
maybe
just
the
perfect.
M
So,
as
I
said,
we
do
have
that
common
access
up
the
middle
with
the
four
parking
spaces
located
is
tandem
space
18
by
nine
each.
We
do
locate
the
edge
of
that
parking
space
towards
the
rear
of
the
property
within
about
two
and
a
half
feet
of
the
rear
property
line.
A
couple
of
the
issues
that
were
raised
during
the
review
by
planning
where
the
first
was
the
location
of
retaining
wall.
M
There
was
a
retaining
wall
to
the
rear
of
the
property
and
with
respect
to
any
work
that
we
do,
we
fully
understand
that
that
will
be
a
requirement
that
we
have
to
address
as
part
of
our
construction.
So
our
client
will
retain
a
structural
engineer
and
we'll
obviously
work
with
our
budding
property
owner
to
address
any
of
the
structural
issues
that
need
to
be
addressed
in
connection
with
that.
I
believe
the
other
questions
we're
concerning
the
previous
pavers
and
a
maintenance
plan
for
that.
M
M
E
M
M
F
N
E
E
M
G
M
E
M
So
we
discussed
this
at
the
board
of
appeal
and
I
did
have
a
chance
to
talk
to
my
client.
These
are
intended
for
her
family,
so
these
may
be
organized
as
Condos
for
ownership
for
purpose
of
a
family,
but
they're
intended
to
be
for
her
family
only
so
whether
they're
recorded
with
a
master
deed
and
then
owned
individualized
units.
This
is
these
are
intended
for
a
family,
correct,
yeah,.
M
So
I
believe
we
have
area
towards
the
rear
of
the
property
in
between
the
parking,
the
parking
space
in
the
back
of
the
building
that
we
can
put
enclosure
for
trash.
There
is
space
in
the
basement,
but
I
don't
know
we
necessarily
want
to
keep
storage
or
trash
doors
in
the
basement,
but
we
it's
an
unfinished
basement,
so
we
would
have
the
ability
to
include
it
in
the
basement.
If
that
was
preferred.
C
E
E
M
M
C
E
Okay,
well
I'd
like
to
make
a
recommendation
to
approve
of
the
standard
conditions
and
as
long
as
it's
subject
to
a
design
review
and
the
plans
for
the
retaining
wall
are
submitted
once
that's
been
complete
and
at
the
tenants
of
the
building
will
not
be
eligible
for
the
resident
sticker
program
that
there's
a
storm.
Water
maintenance
plan,
a
landscaping
plan
and
that
the
exterior
lights
are
dark
sky
compliant
and
and
the
White.
G
C
C
M
G
J
Well,
I'll,
say:
I
just
think
you
guys
are
building
considering
how
much
housing
Chelsea
needs,
you're,
building
a
six
houses,
you're
building
a
four
bedroom
house,
even
though
it's
called
a
study
which
is
just
another
way
to
get
around
building
a
four
bedroom
house,
I
think
with
the
space
that
you
guys
allocated,
you
could
build
much.
You
could
build
affordable
housing
on
this
property.
You
could
do
a
lot
of
stuff
on
this.
J
Besides
building
six,
you
know
townhouses
for
people
who
won't
be
able
to
afford
to
live
there
and
the
residents
won't
be
able
to
afford
to
live
there.
It's
you
know
and
I
think
the
tandem
parking
is
tedious
and
hard
to
deal
with,
but
if
that
was
the
only
issue
that
I
have,
but
this
is
you
know
these-
these
units
are
going
to
go
for
over
half
a
million
dollars
easily
gonna
go
over
half
a
million
dollars,
if
not
into
the
six
to
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars.
J
M
J
You
look
at
the
floor
plan.
You
guys
have
the
world's
biggest
laundry
room
known
to
mankind
in
this
building.
The
floor
plans
are
interesting.
I
just
want
affordable
housing
in
in
some
way
fatal
storm
and
by
squirting
that
issue
you,
you
know,
I
can't
approve
it.
Sorry,
this
is
a
very
big
property
and
you
could
have
done
some
other
stuff
with
it.
I
unders,
you
know,
I
get
it.
It's
just
my
opinion,
lonely
as
it
is.
Okay.
E
E
A
E
A
A
A
F
A
M
The
only
change
is
because
we
are
proposing
to
developed
a
lot
next
to
it
and,
as
John
had
said,
there's
this
fiction
of
merger
that
even
though
they're
separate
Lots,
they
could
have
been
even
probably
sold
separately
at
different
times.
They
just
happen
to
come
in
common
ownership
and
once
that
happens,
they're
one.
It's
considered
one
lot,
so
you
know
even
for
purposes
of
the
assessor
we're
not
really
changing
anything
with
lot.
There
is
parking
on
a
separate
lot,
which
I
don't
even
believe
under
your
zoning
is
permissible
without
some
type
of
special
permit.
Anyhow.
M
M
A
B
A
B
B
A
A
M
M
Probably
a
good
place
to
start
right
here
excellent,
so
this
proposal
involves
a
pre-existing
three-family
dwelling,
which
we're
seeing
here
on
the
screen
on
a
roughly
15
000
over
15
000
square
foot
lot.
Our
proposal
would
subdivide
the
lot
and
allow
for
the
creation
of
a
separate
lot
for
a
new
two-family
dwelling
that
true
family
dwelling
would
have
a
total
of
four
parking
spaces.
We
would
also
be
creating
three
parking
spaces
for
the
existing
three
family
dwelling
that
do
not
presently
exist.
This
is
intended.
M
Are
we
intending
home
ownership
so
for
the
proposed
yeah
for
the
two,
the
new
two
family
that
would
be
intended
for
home
ownership,
so
these
would
be
individual
condo
units.
The
existing
three
family,
which
is
presently
occupied
would
remain
as
a
rental
property.
If
we
want
to
jump
down
to
I
believe
we
have
our
site
plan
and
our
landscape
plan
as
well.
M
Probably
a
good
place
to
start,
so,
as
you
can
see,
we
would
divide
the
property
relatively
close
to
the
middle.
The
driveway
would
be
located
on
the
new
lot,
with
the
existing
structure
located
here.
The
four
parking
spaces
located
to
the
rear
of
the
proposed
two
family
and
then
the
three
parking
spaces
located
to
the
rear
of
the
three
family
which
would
be
accessed
through
the
driveway
and
a
common
easement
would
be
in
put
in
place
for
for
those
three
parking
spaces.
M
M
We
have
retained
our
geoconil
Associates,
who
come
up
with
a
pretty
comprehensive
plan
to
handle
drainage,
as
well
as
the
storm
water
and
I
know
that
we
have
provided
that
to
the
planning
department
with
respect
to
the
issues
that
were
raised
previously
at
the
last
hearing.
If
we
want
to
jump
down
to
the
next
slide,
I
think
we
do
have
our
landscape
plan
as
well.
M
Those
are
concerns
that
we
certainly
heard
last
time
as
well,
and
we
believe
that
the
system
that
is
being
proposed
by
O'connell
would
certainly
not
only
improve
the
current
situation
with
the
amount
of
stormwater
runoff
that
goes
to
the
back
of
the
property,
but
also
create
certainly
some
substantial
mitigation
for
what
what
currently
occurs
on
the
site.
We
do
understand
that
there
were,
you,
know,
comments
and
concerns
from
Neighbors
about
the
existing
property
itself.
M
Our
client
has
owned
it
for
a
little
over
a
year,
and
we
are
certainly
committed
to
working
with
the
neighborhood
on
addressing
those
concerns.
But,
as
I
said,
the
chief
concerns
that
we
did
here
were
about
parking
and
storm
water
runoff,
and
we
want
to
ensure
that
you
know
I
think
going
going
through
the
process
that
we
went
through
to
ensure
that
we
can
address
those
I
did
have
a
narrative.
M
Our
engineer
could
not
be
tonight
but
be
here
tonight,
but
we
asked
him
to
give
us
a
quick
summary
of
just
some
of
the
mechanisms
for
the
storm
water
management
and
the
drainage
system.
So
he
indicates
the
runoff
from
the
roof
of
the
new
building
and
half
the
roof
of
the
existing
building
will
be
directed
to
one
infiltration
system
behind
the
new
building.
M
That
infiltration
system
has
an
overflow
connected
to
a
second
infiltration
system
which
is
located
beneath
the
parking
area.
The
second
infiltration
system
would
accept
runoff
collected
by
catch
base
in
the
new
parking
area
as
well,
and
then
there's
an
overflow
Outlet
control
structure
that
diverts
any
additional
runoff
down
to
a
level
spreader
at
the
rear
of
the
lot,
which
is
essentially
a
perforated
pipe
set
in
a
deep
bed
of
stone,
and
then
the
runoff
would
infiltrate
into
that
stone.
M
Trench
the
stone
trench
would
extend
to
the
surface
and
therefore
the
any
additional
access
runoff
would
that
actually
was
was
going
beyond
the
existing
system
would
then
only
flow
downhill,
and
that
was
that
would
only
be
the
residual
that
wasn't
captured
by
the
existing
or
the
proposed
infiltration
system
that
we
have.
The
drywall
that
is
immediately
upslope
from
the
final
retaining
wall
would
be
an
additional
measure
that
would
intend
to
capture
any
additional
runoff
and
infiltrate
it
into
the
ground.
C
M
M
F
M
B
O
I
actually
want
to
address
so
many
issues
here
that
they're
talking
about
Pursuit,
2,
Section,
34A,
no
lot
on
which
a
building
existing
or
erected
shall
be
altered
or
no
structure
shall
be
rearranged
so
to
as
to
increase
non-conformance
with
this
ordinance.
This
proposed
development
fields
to
meet
the
reference
standards,
the
conditions
that
they
relate
to
in
the
variance
in
section
34-13c,
the
four
things
that
they
would
have
to
satisfy.
O
It's
not
a
unique
parcel.
We
have
questions
about
the
density.
The
neighbors
are
not
interested
in
the
project.
It's
not
a
hardship,
it's
detrimental
to
the
neighborhood
and,
as
you
go
to
permits
and
relief
minimum
lot
size,
they
need
a
variance
minimum
Frontage.
They
need
a
variance
minimum
side
yard.
They
need
a
variance
minimum
usage
and
open
space.
They
need
a
variance
minimum
side
yard.
They
need
a
variance
parking
location,
they
need
a
special
permit,
minimum
Frontage.
O
O
O
There
is
inconsistencies
between
the
petition
and
the
plan
sheets.
The
petition
states
that
the
unit
and
the
new
building
lot
will
contain
three
bedrooms.
However,
the
floor
plan
shows
eight
four
bedrooms
in
each.
Why
are
seven
spaces
proposed
for
two
unit
building
where
only
four
are
required?
What
is
the
proposed
height
of
the
proposed
retaining
walls?
What
is
the
grade
of
the
proposed
open
space
of
wad
B
and
what
is
the
purpose
of
the
proposed
access
easement
shown
on
lot?
A
those
are
our
questions
from
the
neighborhood.
P
Good
evening
my
name
is
Kathleen:
Clark
I
live
at
73,
Warren
Ave
I
live
about
diagonally
from
this
property.
I
have
resided
there
with
my
family
for
29
years.
Unlike
this,
homeowner
that
came
in
purchased.
Thingless
property
was
a
little
bit
more
than
a
year
ago,
because
I
think,
if
you
remember,
we
were
here
about
two
three
years
ago
on
the
same
property.
P
So
I
don't
know
how
we
could
have
been
here
if
he
only
owned
it
for
a
year,
but
I'd
just
like
to
bring
up
some
comments
that
were
made
to
the
specific
petitioner
at
our
last
meeting
before
this
planning
board
and
one
member
specifically
had
asked
him.
Have
you
ever
approached
the
abutters
about
this
property?
P
The
response
was
no,
so
the
board
member
said
so
basically
you're
coming
here
to
us,
never
approaching
the
neighbors,
but
asking
us
to
steal
their
neighborhood
from
them.
When
we
were
before
the
zoning
board,
the
first
meaning
Council
went
up
and
asked
for
a
continuance
specifically
to
go
and
address
the
neighbors.
P
P
When
I
tell
you
that
I
had
presented,
which
I'm
sure
may
have
been
in
the
record,
but
may
not
be
before
you
about
the
trash.
This
is
an
absentee
landlord
that
does
not
care
nor
monitor
what
goes
on
in
his
property,
but
we,
the
neighbors,
have
to
face
every
day.
He
is
the
third
house
as
soon
as
you
went
to
the
street
on
the
right
hand,
side
it's
a
one-way
street,
so
you
cannot
avoid
driving
by
his
property.
P
When
I
had
presented
pictures
of
trash
overflowing
filling
on
the
streets,
Council
responded
well,
I,
don't
know
when
those
pictures
were
taken.
I
believe
we
were
before
the
zoning
board.
Maybe
the
first
week
of
June
so
I'd
like
to
show
you
the
pictures
that
I
presented
to
the
zoning
board
that
he
argued
back
I,
don't
know
when
they
were
taken
and
I'll
give
you
two
additional
pictures,
since
the
zoning
board
trash
spilling
all
over
the
street.
P
But
these
are
time
dated
and
stamped
that
have
happened
again,
since
we
were
at
the
zoning
board
because
again
he's
an
absentee
landlord
I
believe
he
hires
someone
to
come
by
on
Thursday
and
afternoon
and
put
out
the
trash.
However,
the
neighbors
take
the
trash
barrels
back
in
the
tenants,
but
they
leave
all
the
trash
spilled
on
the
street.
So
if
I
can
approach
just
to
show
you
these
pictures
time.
P
Another
issue
we
have
as
the
tenants
which
I'll
show
you.
There
is
a
telephone
pole
that
stands
directly
right
in
front
of
the
property
and
it's
being
proposed
that
we're
going
to
have
a
driveway.
Although
they
say
a
slight
slope.
I'll
also
show
you
a
picture
of
that.
So
you
can
see
the
incline
of
the
driveway.
But
the
question
is
I'm
sure
this
league
legalities
on
how
and
if
you're
able
to
move
a
telephone
pole
and
in
adjacent
to
the
current
property
in
the
driveway.
P
Yeah
and
it's
funny
how
he
mentions
the
greenage
on
the
property:
do
you
remember
a
few
minutes
ago
how
he
said
we're
going
to
be
replacing
it
well,
the
amount
of
greenage
that
is
currently
the
way
that
the
property
sits
is
the
only
green
space
that
we
have
on
the
whole
street,
because
for
29
years
this
has
been
just
Green
Space.
So
I'd,
just
like
you
to
see
the
amount
of
green
space
that
he's
removing
that
he
will
never
be
able
to
replace
with
the
property
going.
P
P
P
It's
I'm
sure
it's
not
an
everyday
occurrence
that
a
property
owner
needs
that
amount
of
Grants
permission
to
put
apostle.
He
also
mentions
that
the
neighborhood
is
going
to
be
improved
with
the
drainage.
It's
funny
he
say
that
because
behind
me
two
years
ago,
115
Summit
Ave
was
converted
to
a
duplex,
so
it's
now
115
113.,
and
they
did
that
exact
same
thing
with
the
drainage
and
you
know
buried
the
hole
in
the
hole
and
it's
supposed
to
seep
out.
Well,
you
know
we
did
excess
drainage
goes
to
when
it's
slowly
sleeping
out.
P
It
goes
into
my
paveyard
that
I
have
an
in-ground
swimming
pool.
So
as
we're
sitting
in
the
pool,
we're
watching
all
the
water
flow
into
my
yard,
because
that's
what
was
buried
on
for
that
property,
he
also
mentions
that
we're
going
to
have
improved
parking
just
to
do
us
down
from
that.
Excuse
me
three
doors.
We
have
70
Warren
Ave,
which
is
a
32-unit
parking
lot
again,
it's
on
the
same
slope
because
we're
all
up
on
the
hill.
P
So
all
those
properties
on
that
street
go
down
to
Prescott,
F
and
there's
all
of
the
neighbors
refused
to
park
in
that
parking
lot
in
the
winter
because
of
the
slope
and
their
concern
slipping
on
ice
and
landing
in
somebody's
car.
So
how
are
we
going
to
improve
in
a
neighborhood?
You
have
parking,
but
no
one's
everyone's
afraid
to
park
there,
and
the
neighbor
behind
is
not
going
to
have
a
car
come
through
her
backyard
because
I
had
a
car
come
through.
P
We
had
a
call
Christmas
Day
for
115
Summit
came
down
the
hill
and
almost
ended
up
into
a
neighbor's
property
for
the
same
reason.
So
I'd
just
like
you
to
listen
to
the
concerns
hear
us.
We
are
homeowners
that
are
every
day
in
the
neighborhood,
maintaining
our
properties
we
care
about
our
neighborhood
we're
staying
there.
P
Q
Q
And
the
back
of
our
house,
we
own
a
property
going
up,
so
we
were
getting
water
in
the
cellar
in
our
basement
apartments.
We
had
people
come
in
and
tell
us
what
was
going
on
well,
what's
going
on
is
the
water
has
to
go
somewhere,
so
we
put
a
wall
on
at
that
time.
We
had
an
engineer
come
in.
We
wanted
to
go
far
far
back.
We
live
on
a
slope
just
like
this
gentleman
has
a
slope.
Q
The
problem
is
when
you
build
that
slope,
where
all
those
trees
that
are
behind
those
people
on
Prescott
Avenue
those
trees
are
what
holds
up
that
hill.
That's
exactly
what
he
told
us
when
we
did
house
if
I
go
too
far
back,
take
all
those
trees
down
and
all
those
roots
and
everything
eventually
that
wall
is
not
going
to
hold
hold
up.
It's
just
going
to
fall
down
and
we're
going
to
lose
our
property.
So
we
had
our.
We
had
ours
done
when
the
water
comes
down
when
the
spring
overflows
on
the
street.
Q
You
can
see
the
sidewalks
if
you
go
on
a
real
cold
day
in
the
winter,
and
it's
raining
the
next
day.
If
it's
below
zero,
20,
20
degrees
below
20
degrees,
you'll,
see
where
the
sidewalk
comes
up,
and
when
the
water
comes
up,
it
cracks
all
the
sidewalks
it
cracks
all.
The
driveways
we've
had
the
sidewalk
done
to
five
hours
twice.
I've
had.
Q
So
when
the
water
comes
down
with
they're,
going
to
put
that
property
where's
that
water
going
to
go,
if
there's
a
property
line,
if
there's
a
property
put
down
here,
all
that
water
is
going
to
go.
This
guy's
basement
this
gentleman's
basement
the
people
down
down
at
the
bottom
of
the
hill.
What
I
would
like
you
to
do
is:
go
there
and
press
go
down
and
look
and
how
the
slope
is
he's
going
to
have
to
build
you
humongous
walls
to
stop
the
property
from
falling
over
and
just
destroying
everything.
Q
That's
there
and,
like
my
wife,
said
last
time
up
at
150,
the
car
came
right
through
right
down
into
the
yard,
because
it's
the
slope
is
so
bad
that
the
ground
weakens,
and
it
weakens
as,
as
you
know,
as
time
goes
by
we're
not
going
anywhere.
We
live
here,
we're
not
I've
been
in
my
own
life
I
was
born
here,
I
ain't
going
anywhere,
but
I
don't
understand
why
they
want
to
come
in
and
ruin
our
city
ruin
our
streets.
Q
And
another
thing
is
this
young
lady
said
about
the
the
housing
they're
not
interested
in
the
low
income
housing?
They
want
to
get
their
money
and
get
out
the
door.
Then
you'll
never
see
them
again.
So
10
years
down
the
line,
this
house,
that's
there
has
a
problem
and
the
people
down
on
the
bottom
of
the
hill
in
Prescott
Avenue.
They
have
a
problem.
Is
he
going
to
be
here
tonight?
It's
going
to
be
up
to
us.
We
just
want
to
keep
our
street
the
way.
It
is
it's
very
nice.
Q
We
have
plenty
of
people
living
on
it,
there's
pocket
for
everybody,
but
if
you're
going
to
add
a
four
bedroom,
four
bedroom,
you're
gonna
you're
gonna
need
more
than
pocket
for
four
cars.
If
you
have
a
four
bedroom,
everybody
owns
a
car.
There's
four
cards
right
there
same
one
next
door
same
with
the
guy,
you
know
so
I,
just
don't
think
that
should
go.
Q
Look
at
the
property
from
Prescott
Avenue,
and
you
tell
me
that
you
think
that
whole
you
think
that
one
that
the
slope
is
going
to
hold
all
those
cars
eventually
that
wall
is
going
to
lean
lean,
lean
and
fall
down.
It's
going
to
ruin
everything
it's
going
to
ruin
the
property
down
the
bottom,
the
drainage
problem.
We
just
don't
want
it.
You
know
we
got
the
apartment.
Building
we're
pretty
happy
with
that.
Like
my
wife
said,
nobody
wants
to
park
down
there
because
of
the
slope.
Q
B
M
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I'm
I'm,
not
going
to
get
into
the
debate
back
and
forth,
but
I
think
there's
three
issues
that
we
did
hear
about
parking
trash
and
the
drainage
for
purposes
of
this
hearing.
We
feel
that
those
issues
can
all
easily
be
addressed
by
what
we're
proposing
the
plan
that
was
submitted
by
RJ
O'connell
notwithstanding,
you
know
the
comments
that
what
might
happen
and
the
speculation
of
what
might
happen
if
this
this
gets
built
I
mean.
M
Certainly
this
will
be
built
in
accordance
with
all
the
requirements
of
the
State
Building
Code
under
the
direction
of
an
engineer,
I
think
all
the
speculative
concerns
about
putting
retaining
walls
and
drainage
in
we
didn't
hear
anything
to
rebut
our
plan
with
respect
to
what
we're
proposing
so
I.
Don't
know
that
those
are
really
founded,
I,
certainly
understand
they
don't
want
it
they're
very
clear
that
they
don't
want
the
development
we
get.
M
That
but
I
think
it's
a
little
odd
to
be
stating
that
you
know
this
will
cause
bigger
problems
with
parking
or
bigger
problems
with
drainage.
The
trash
I'm
glad
the
previous
speaker
brought
up
the
trash.
Currently,
the
three
family
dwelling
doesn't
really
have
any
location
for
its
trash
because
of
the
slope
of
the
land,
it's
very
difficult
to
get
the
trash
up
to
the
front
of
the
property
that
will
be
addressed
by
by
the
modifications
that
were
proposed
of
the
rear
of
the
property.
M
They
will
be
dedicated
trash
storage
for
the
three
families,
so
that
issue
also
goes
away,
and
I
probably
should
have
raised
that
earlier.
With
respect
to
the
parking,
we
did
hear
the
concerns
about
other
properties
and
issues
that
they
may
be,
having
we're
proposing
four
parking
spaces
for
a
two
unit.
M
J
So
I
seriously
doubt
that
those
that
it's
nice,
that
you
have
a
place
for
the
people
to
put
the
trash
bins,
but
sooner
or
later
those
bins
going
to
have
to
go
up
that
ramp,
which
is
very
Steep
and
going
to
be
very
difficult
and
there's
a
problem.
You
know
they're
big
and
they're
bulky
and
when
they're
loaded,
they're
heavy
I
know
because
I
move
them
all
the
time.
So
I
I
have
concerns
that
you
know
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
did
the
engineering
work.
J
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you,
just
but
I,
do
not
appreciate
the
fact
that
one
of
the
conditions
that
we
said
was
to
talk
to
the
neighborhood,
particularly
when
the
president
of
the
city
council
lives
in
that
neighborhood
to
completely
ignore
their
concerns
or
or
completely
ignore.
Our
request
for
you
to
have
to
talk
to
the
neighborhood.
M
J
I,
don't
care
if
there
was
an
attempt.
I
wanted
a
result.
I
don't
want
you
to
make
a
phone
call.
I,
don't
want
you
to
make
an
email
that
is
that,
is
you
know
you?
It
isn't
like
they're
hiding
it
isn't
like
they.
They
don't
know
where
they
are.
This
was
something
that
the
board
vehemently
requested
as
well
as
the
engineering
and
you
you
did
all
the
other
stuff
that
we
wanted.
You
just
didn't
do.
M
J
M
The
chair,
I'm,
respectfully
disagreeing
with
you,
I
I,
think
that
the
Outreach
that
was
initially
made
to
council
Robinson.
He
was
too
busy
to
actually
meet
with
my
client,
and
that
is
something
that
was
communicated.
There
were
additional
conversations
or
comments
that
were
made
the
last
time
around
from
some
of
the
prior
speakers
here
that
they
will
never
support
this
proposal.
If
my
client's
involved
there
was
a
subsequent
attempt.
After
the
first
hearing
for
my
client
to
go
visit
one
of
the
prior
speakers,
she
was
told
she
told
him.
M
She
didn't
want
to
talk
to
him
so
I.
While
we
can
make
the
efforts,
we
can't
guarantee
a
result
and
I
certainly
respect
and
understand
the
concerns
and
I
understand
the
issue
about
the
trash,
we're
proposing
items
that
are
included
with
this
plan.
That
would
address
that.
I
just
want
to
get
back
to
your
comment
about
the
very
difficult
to
have
the
trash
it's
difficult
now,
because
we
don't
have
that
driveway
that
the
the
design
of
that
driveway
will
actually
decrease.
M
The
amount
of
slope
will
allow
for
easier
access
to
the
back
of
the
property
which
doesn't
exist
today
and
I
agree
having
the
trash
in
the
front
of
the
house
is
not
optimal.
We
agree,
but
that's
something
that
makes
it
a
lot
more
difficult
than
if
we're
going
to
place
the
trash
in
the
back
of
the
property
now
you'll
never
get
it
out
of
there.
So
that
is
something
that
we
are
committed
to
doing
as
part
of
this
project.
M
We've
raised
that
at
the
zoning
board
as
well,
but
I
think
the
other
issues
also
have
to
be
considered
that
the
parking
with
respect
to
the
three
family-
that's
not
required,
is
being
Incorporated
in
the
substantial
amount
of
cost
for
the
drainage
is
also
being
included.
So
again,
I
respectfully
disagree
on.
S
That
yeah
and
one
thing
on
the
trash
you
know
we
heard
loud
and
clear
from
The
Neighbors
when
we
presented
originally
that
the
trash
was
not
being
properly
handled
by
our
tenants
and
since
then,
we've
had
a
trash
service
that
comes
to
take
out
the
barrels
and
put
the
barrels
back.
They
come
at
night
and
they
come
back
the
next
day
and
that
same
type
of
service
would
continue
with
these
properties.
So
they
would
handle
the
bringing
of
the
barrels
up
to
the
street
cleaning
up
and
then
bringing
them
back
behind
the
property.
S
Typically,
they
do
a
wash
of
the
barrels
once
a
month
and
then,
if
there's
any
holes
from
that,
would
allow
for
rodents
to
get
in
they
replace
the
barrel.
So
that's
the
trash
service
that
is
currently
at
the
property,
but
we
just
don't
have
a
good
spot
to
store
it,
so
that
will
be
vastly
improved
in
the
same.
Trash
company
will
still
be
on
this
property.
S
S
So
if
there
is
a
slippage
of
a
car
right,
there
are
I
believe
eight
ballards
one
I
mean
to
and
then
on
the
side
as
well,
10
ballards
that
we're
going
to
be
putting
in
to
ensure
that
No
Cars
Go
all
over
the
edge-
and
you
know
we've
built
these.
You
know
many
times
before
I
think
with
the
drainage
system.
This
is
a
very
complicated
process.
S
Lots
of
drainage
work,
lots
of
coal,
Tech
tanks,
big,
you
know
retaining
walls
that
take
a
lot
of
engineering,
but
all
of
that
will
be
done
to
code
and
ensure
that
it's
safe
and
I
think
that
this
can
bring
two
great
home
ownership
units
to
the
neighborhood.
I
know
the
neighbors.
Don't
want
anything
here
when
I
looked
at
this
property
when
it
was
originally
proposed,
there
was
the
extra
lot
to
the
left.
It
has
it's
now.
One
lot
and
I
was
like
this
is
a
two-family
Zone.
S
This
is
a
great
place
for
a
two
family
for
two
condos
that
people
could
live.
You
know
we
didn't
want.
There
was
no.
We
didn't
want
to
anger
the
neighborhood.
We
just
felt
that
it
was
a
good
place
for
for
people
to
be
able
to
live
and
enjoy
the
community
and
I.
Think
that
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
and
I
hope
you
guys
agree.
T
C
A
M
M
Somebody
could
deregister
this,
or
both
units
could
deregister
it,
but
what
it
would
require
is
once
these
are
sold
as
individual
units
they're
separate
mortgages
on
each
unit,
it'd
be
quite
cumbersome
to
deregister
it
and
then
make
it
into
a
rental,
because
you'd
have
to
have
one
owner
of
both
units
and
it
wouldn't
necessarily
probably
be
the
most
financially
feasible
to
do
it
that
way.
So
the
intent
here
is
condo
the
quality
and
the
design
of
the
building
is
for
condos.
So
these
These
are
intended
for
home
ownership.
M
M
So
we
did
have
the
the
landscape
design
team
go
back
and
redraw
this
with
that
I'm,
not
sure
there
was
a
question
on
the
engineering
for
RJ,
O'connell
I
think
we
provided
you
their
response
as
well
as
to
what
will
happen
with
the
remaining
infiltration
and
how
that
would
work
through
the
process.
Will
the
plans
be
updated
to
show
that
I
I
believe
so
we
asked
that's
what
we
had
asked
our
geocondal
to
give
us
is
that,
based
on
upon
the
plan,
that's
submitted,
that's
that's
included
and
I
can
have
him.
M
A
S
M
We
we
sent
that
specific
comment
that
you
I
wanted
to
clarify
that
I
know
you
and
I
communicated
by
email,
that
specific
comment
was
sent
to
Brian,
and
that
was
the
response
that
came
back
so
I
think
he
addresses
that
I.
Think
the
question
was
whether
or
not
when
it
gets
sort
of
to
that
end
point.
What
happens.
I
think,
there's
two
infiltration
systems
and
then
there's
sort
of
a
residual
sort
of
last
last
stop
catch
and
that's
where
they're.
That's,
where
they're
they're
getting.
B
A
M
A
A
E
S
So
yeah
so
I
think
it's
with
the
sloped
lot.
If
you
look
at
the
rendering,
if
we
click
through
you'll,
see
that
we're
actually
just
a
two-story
on
the
street
side,
but
then
because
of
the
slope
into
the
rear,
that's
where
you're
getting
our
large
height.
If
we
were
to
drop
it
down
lower,
it
would
almost
be
a
one
story
on
on
Warren.
A
M
This
the
one
you're
looking
for
yes,
yeah
yeah,
so
to
so
from
the
street
side,
it's
going
to
view
as
two
and
a
half
stories
very
similar
to
the
height
of
the
to
the
existing
three
unit,
but
from
the
rear.
We
could
see
those
in
the
dimensional
elevation,
the
one
dimensional
elevations,
John
I,
think
that's!
Where
we're
picking
up
the
height,
you
can
jump
back
to
the
elevations
yeah,
that's
probably
a
good
one,
so
left
side
of
the
building.
S
M
I
think
look
from
from
the
rear.
You
know.
If
we
look
at
the
photo
of
the
existing
three
family,
you
can
see.
You
know
it
has
a
similar
slope
to
the
rear.
So
it's
consistent
both
for
the
rear
of
that
building
to
our
right,
as
well
as
the
front
in
the
same
height,
because
that
does
drop
off
in
the
back
as
well.
M
So
I
I'll,
just
I,
think
the
first
yeah
the
first
issue
I've
dealt
with
the
gravel
driveways
in
New
England
many
times
it
does
present
a
challenge
for
snow
removal
and
for
ice.
So
when
that
winter
conditions
do
occur,
it
does
present,
especially
with
the
slope
if
they
do
tend
to
work
a
little
bit
better
on
flat
ground.
You
can
you.
G
M
Still
with
the
snow
and
the
ice,
but
with
the
with
the
slope,
it's
a
little
bit
more
difficult,
but
we'd
ask
the
engineer
to
consider
that
in
its
design
for
the
drainage.
So
even
you
know
the
slope
of
that
driveway
and
the
pavement
that
we're
using
has
all
been
taken
into
consideration
for
how
that
system
will
manage
it.
And
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
do
have
some
of
the
redundancy
that's
built
in,
if
not
redundancy,
even
an
extra
layer
for
any
residual
beyond
the
redundancy.
S
Yeah
one
note
on
that:
when
I
spoke
to
Brian
Tim
today
and
RJ
O'connell
to
review
the
comments,
I
was
wondering
why
we
had
more
than
the
two
Caltech
tanks,
which
would
kind
of
be
standard
on
this
and
though
he
just
wanted
to
go
to
that
next
level,
with
the
design
with
that
trench
and
as
well
as
that
drywall.
So
those
are
two
extra
steps
he's
taking
to
really
work
on
this
runoff
and
make
sure
there's
no
problems,
and
so
he
was
very
confident
when
I
spoke
to
him
today
in
the
design.
U
M
M
M
And
you
know
I
do
understand
the
board's
concerned.
You
hear
neighbors
complaining
about
a
project
and
you
know
we
certainly
have
to
address
that
back
before
the
board
of
appeal,
I'm
sure,
but
I
think
for
purposes
of
what
the
charge
here
is.
You
know
we're
focusing
on
the
items
that
we
understood
as
being
the
important
issues
when
it
dealt
with
parking
sight
and
drainage
and
I
think
we've
at
least
put
forth
a
compelling
enough
case
that
we've
addressed
the
concerns,
at
least
from
what
the
board's
previous
comments
were.
C
O
Well,
I
think
the
question
is
it's
not
asking
for
one
variances,
it's
asking
for
10
variances
and
five
special
permits.
I
mean
I
know
they
have
a
right
to
come
before
the
board,
but
I
think
it's
up
to
the
board
to
make
a
decision
whether
or
not
this
is
appropriate
for
the
neighborhood
and
does
it
fit
the
neighborhood
all
right.
We're
talking
about
a
street
that
people
have
owned
the
property
for
25
years
are
better.
It's
not
against
that
work
that
the
neighbors
are
against
development.
O
It's
just
that
the
shape
of
the
land
is
not
really
suitable
for
this
type
of
building
and-
and
it
keeps
saying
it's
about
a
two
family
but
you're
talking
about
four
floors
of
living
space
and
then
one
at
one
point.
It
says
three
bedrooms
and
another
point.
It
says
it's
going
to
be
four
bedrooms,
so
four
stories
of
four
bedrooms.
P
Unfortunately,
I
think
that's
a
question
that
should
also
be
presented
to
the
residents
of
Prescott,
specifically
because
they
are
the
ones
that
are
going
to
be
immediately
impacted,
having
to
look
out
their
window
and
see
four
stories.
However,
high
and
again,
this
is
a
property
that
there
was
never
a
structure
there,
so
you
picture
yourself
living
in
a
home
for
40
something
years,
never
having
anything
obstructing
and
then
all
of
a
sudden.
P
You
have
Apostle,
that's
not
only
squished
into
a
piece
of
land,
that's
too
small,
but
it's
how
high
and
I
just
like
to
cons.
You
know
they
keep
pushing
this
driveway
and
you
had
a
question
about
the
barrels
and
the
compactor
being
able
to
get
down
in
there.
Well,
when
a
plow
comes,
you
go
down
the
driveway
and
you
push
the
snow
where's
the
snow
going
to
go
because
you
can't
bring
the
snow
back
up
the
driveway
and
put
it
in
the
street.
So
is
that
going
to
be
put
more
pressure
on
this
wall?
P
That's
protecting
the
Prescott
Neighbors
I
mean
if
we
have
feet
upon
feet
upon
feet
like
we
did
a
few
Winters
ago.
It
was,
you
know,
snowing
every
other
day,
12
inches
or
more.
The
snow
is
going
to
be
so
high
built
up
again
taking
spots
from
the
quote:
unquote:
seven
that
are
going
to
protect
the
neighborhood,
because
you're
going
to
have
to
store
the
snow.
P
It's
eventually
going
to
go
over
the
top
of
that
wall
and
end
up
on
the
Prescott
Ave
property,
because
there's
only
so
much
it
can
hide.
You
know,
put
snow
and
pack
it
up
before
it's
going
to
be
over
the
top.
So
I
really
think
you
know
they're
not
given
that
opportunity
and
I'd
like
to
vouch
for
them,
because
I
have
the
same
slope.
Just
adjacent
to
me.
There's
this
coming
down
to
me
just
like
this
property
would
be
going
down
to
them
and
I
am
impacted.
P
I
was
never
addressed
as
an
about
approving
this
project.
I
now
have
water
that
comes
in
my
yard.
That
I
can't
do
anything
about.
There's
nothing
I
can
do
sit
out
there
in
the
summer
and
I
just
hear
seepage
coming
through
the
wall.
So
I'd
just
like
you
to
also
consider
the
neighbors
and
the
residents
that
have
lived
there.
50
something
years,
one
of
them
who's
directly
behind
this
property
that,
unfortunately,
was
not
able
to
be
there
but
has
sent
in
letters
of
opposition
previously.
Thank
you.
Q
Q
S
Yeah,
if
you
go
to
the
street
view,
shot
you'll
see
that
I
know
the
the
neighbors.
Are
these
most,
these
Butters
live
across
the
street.
So
if
you
look
at
our
parcel
all
to
the
left
of
us,
there's
the
existing
three
family
there's
this
lot,
where
we're
proposing
and
then
there's
a
long
stretch
of
open
land
there's
an
old
foundation
on
it.
A
A
S
So
yeah,
so
this
is
the
right.
So
this
is
the
current
where
the
parcel
is.
These
are
just
two
vacant
Lots
right,
there's
no
Butters
to
our
left.
These
are
just
old
foundations,
I'm,
not
sure
if
they
burn
down
or
but
those
are
just
so
we
have
no
neighbors
until
we
get
to
this
large
rental
building
on
the
left-hand
side
and
then,
as
you
can
see,
this
building
ends
right
here.
We've
got
the
parking
area,
a
yard
and
then
huge
yards
down
to
Prescott.
S
So
there's
a
significant
rear
setback
not
only
on
our
property
but
down
on
Prescott
and
wanted
to
make
one
quick
note
on
the
snow
removal.
Our
snow
removal
company
that
we
used
would
never
plow
this
site.
They
would
always
use
an
RV
or
a
a
snow,
plow
or
shovels,
and
there's
lots
of
space
to
place
the
snow
around
the
site.
So
I
can
assure
you
that
we
wouldn't
be
using
a
plow
on
this
site,
and
that
would
be
part
of
our
our
snow
management
plan
that
we
would
submit
to
planning.
Q
Q
Q
You
know
he
said
he
was
going
to
not
go
crazy,
make
it
look
nice
and
he
was
going
to
live
there,
which
was
even
better
because,
if
he's
going
to
live
in
our
street,
you
know
that
makes
it
better
for
us,
because
now
he's
going
to
take
care
of
his
property,
but
you're
talking
you're
talking
a
four
bedroom
apartment,
which
is
which
is
going
to
be
four
floors
high.
If
it's
a
two
family
and
you're
going
to
have
it
four
stories,
high,
that's
ridiculous!
Q
You
know,
and
what's
going
to
happen
eventually
in
the
winter
I'm
going
to
tell
you
right
now,
we've
been
there,
we
bought
the
house
30
years
ago,
whatever
it
was,
those
people
are
not
going
to
park
in
that
parking
lot.
Just
like
the
people
in
the
building
they're
going
to
park
out
in
the
street
and
eventually
you're
going
to
find
it
all
over
the
place.
People
are
going
to
be
having
problems.
There's
going
to
be
argument,
it's
just
I
know
that
the
gentleman
wants
to
build
a
nice
house.
Q
F
R
Hi,
my
name
is
Edmund
corriegel
I
live
in
120,
Warren
Ave
right
next
to
the
building
the
proposing
to
build.
This
guy
is
right
here.
One
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
say
is
for
us
actually,
when
they
planning
to
have
the
drive-through
of
the
drive-in
down
to
this
parking
lot.
The
steepness
of
this
Park
I,
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
fix
it
to
do
something,
but
it's
extremely
steep
and
it's
kind
of
narrow,
I
think
actually
for
anybody
to
go
down.
It
got
to
be
a
really
really.
R
Kind
of
narrow
you
need,
the
stiffness
of
this
thing
is
kind
of
really
really
deep
and
I
worry
actually,
because
if
they
do,
that
and
I
live
right
next
door,
I'm
just
actually
at
accent,
you
know
winning
to
happen
in
any
moment
really.
It
is
especially
in
the
winter
time
when
we
got
the
snow
and
all
that
so
I
don't
know
actually
for
us,
whatever
actually
planning
to
do
and
all
that,
but
not
really
getting
me
really
worried.
T
R
Down
there,
actually,
the
guy
used
to
own
that
property
was
a
police
officer
for
Chelsea.
He
used
to
clean
up
the
whole
thing
all
the
way
to
the
back
now
the
older
previous
owner,
especially
this
case
right
now.
Actually
they
don't
touch
anything
behind
that.
The
thing
is
when
we're
trying
to
bring
up
is
actually
the
maintenance
of
this
property
not
being
taken
care
of
meaning.
Actually,
if
they
do
own
another
property
or
they
build
another
thing
down,
there
probably
is
going
to
be
the
same
situation.
C
C
D
C
M
You
know
the
overgrowth
and
the
maintenance
of
the
back
of
the
property
again
that
gets
addressed
if
we
are
incorporating
that
drive
area
and
doing
all
the
work
that
we're
proposing
for
that
drainage
that
actually
improves
that
back
portion
of
this
lot,
I
think
my
client
had
indicated
about
the
snow.
That's
speculative!
We
have
a
system
for
this.
This
isn't
the
first
property
that
he's
been
involved.
That
has
this
type
of
condition
where
there's
a
method
to
removing
snow.
M
There's
plenty
of
area
around
the
parking
area
to
address
that,
so
that
shouldn't
be
a
concern,
but
to
the
point
of
how
does
it
impact
the
neighborhood?
The
zoning
allows
for
two
family
we're
proposing
a
two
family.
The
zoning
requires
two
spaces
per
unit,
we're
proposing
two
spaces
per
unit
other
than
the
other
technical
issues
that
go
along
with
it
I'm
sure
we
can
find
similar
non-conformities
with
many
Lots
in
the
area
that
are
already
pre-existing,
but
the
real
issue
I
think
tonight
is
how
did
we
address
those
concerns
concerning
this
site?
M
And
you
know
this
board
is
certainly
you
know
capable
of
voting
no
recommendation
or
recommendation
or
to
deny
this
I
think
that
would
also
be
a
bad
precedent,
because
we've
done
an
extensive
amount
of
work
and
try
to
respond
to
the
board
and
the
issues
that
we
did
here.
Specifically
complaints
notwithstanding,
we
understand
they
do
don't
want
to
see
this
happen.
They
don't
want
to
see
this
project.
They
have
their
opportunity
to
raise
that
at
the
zoning
board,
I
think,
but
for
purpose
of
the
recommendation.
E
Well,
I'd
like
to
make
a
recommendation
to
deny
this
project
a
is
just
downright
treacherous
when
I
looked
at
this.
The
last
time,
I'm,
like
you,
know
sure
an
engineer
can
come
up
with
whatever
you
want
and
come
up
with,
but
that
doesn't
mean
you
know,
look
at
the
submarine
that
we
just
witnessed
all
right.
It
does
not
mean
that
that's
a
good
idea
now
the
existing
building
and
what
was
proposed
there.
E
M
We
were
specifically
asked
through
the
chair
to
address
the
specific
concerns
that
we
did
address
tonight
regarding
drainage
and
parking,
and
we
did
that
so,
while
I
do
respectfully
disagree
with
the
board
member
that
you
know
this
is
overly
ambitious.
This
is
precisely
what
was
asked
of
us
and
to
address
it
in
a
way
that
we
feel
makes
the
most
sense
and
I've
not
heard
one
party
tonight
rebut
anything
that
we've
presented
with
respect
to
the
parking
the
grade
or
the
drainage
plan
that
we've
put
forward.
I've
heard
a
lot
of
speculation.
M
J
Reiterate
one
of
the
requests
from
the
board
was
to
talk
to
a
Butters
which
includes
people
on
Prescott
Street.
Now
I
understand
that
this
drainage
plan
is
I.
Have
some
speculation
about
it.
I
understand
that
the
driveway
is
steep,
but
you
can.
You
did
address
most
of
the
issues.
You
did
address
an
important
issue,
so
you
can
diminish
it.
You
can
play
it
down,
but
that
was
one
of
the
requests
that
we
we
requested.
J
Last
time
you
guys
came
I'm,
sorry
if
you
feel
it
was
personally
attacked,
because
that's
not
what
anybody
I
feel
like
in
this
building
was
saying,
but
you
know
we
requested
this.
You
choose
to
make.
What
I
feel
is
a
half-hearted
attempt,
whatever
Sarah
so
I
I
understand
you
disagree
with
me,
I
get
it,
but
that
was
one
of
the
requests
we
had
four
request.
One
was
drainage.
One
was
parking.
One
was
talking
to
the
butters.
M
I
I
understand
the
city.
Councilor
is
a
big
player
and
a
big
factor
in
this
because
he
isn't
a
butter
he's
who
we
started
with
first
he's
the
one
who
led
the
charge
opposing
this
last
time
he's
the
one
who
presented
the
letters,
the
petitions
and
indicated
he
represented
a
number
of
people.
We
started
with
him.
He
didn't
want
to
communicate
with
us,
I
think
the
writing
was
on
the
wall
and
so
what
the
real
action
would
be.
So
don't
please
don't
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear.
M
Please
don't
say
we
didn't
try
to
make
that
attempt
and
please
don't
say
it
was
half-hearted.
We
started
with
him.
He's
the
counselor
he's
in
a
butter
we
were
rebuffed,
we
were
told.
Basically
you
didn't
have
the
time
to
meet
with
us.
The
message
is
there:
we
understand
it,
the
neighbors
don't
want
this,
we
get
it,
but
that's
not
the
reason
to
reject
a
pretty
well
developed
plan
for
the
site.
That's
your.
R
O
R
O
M
G
A
C
C
I
I
think
it
creates
a
precedent
of
asphalt
all
on
us
all
all
on
an
incline
which
is
going
to
create
flooding
issues
I
just
I,
just
don't
think
it's
the
correct
project
and
the
correct
spot
if
it
was
a
flat
property.
I
think
this
is
some
other
conversation.
It
isn't
on
a
hill,
can't
control
it
I'll.
Second,
it.
A
V
Yeah
I
guess
my
thing
right
here
is
that
we
they
came
to
the
meeting
in
April
and
we
gave
them
some
recommendations
to
improve
their
plans
and
they
came
back
and
how
to
improve
their
plans.
Obviously
it's
pretty
I,
don't
know
like
the
board
doesn't
know
like
who
has
talked
to
who
who
has
tried
to
attempt
to
talk
to
anyone.
That
seems
like
out
of
our
view,
but
the
same
time
we
did
recommend
them
with
the
recommendations
and
they
have
addressed
those
so
I.
V
E
M
G
J
That
is,
that
is
only
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
rejected
this
project.
The
other
is
that
I
do
think
that
there
are
other,
as
Sarah
said,
other
techniques
that
you
can
use
I
think
that
driveway
is
going
to
be
very
difficult.
Any
driveway
like
that
is
going
to
be
difficult.
I
also
think
having
a
four-story
building,
though
I
disagree
with
that
there's,
you
know
you
could
make
it
smaller.
You
can
make
it
lower.
J
J
If
you
have
a
car
coming
up
and
a
car
coming
down
you're
in
for
a
big
you're
in
for
so
somebody's
going
to
have
to
back
up
you're
gonna
you
somebody's
gonna
have
to
back
up
which
is
okay,
I,
don't
think
that
that's
another
speculation
I
think
that's
very
rare
that
really
that
that's
going
to
happen.
I
think
that
might
happen,
maybe
once
every
year
or
something
but
it
you
know,
you
know,
still
a
concern.
There's
there's
we
haven't
even
mentioned
the
safety
of
children.
J
If
there's
children
in
this
house
and
there's
and
they're
and
they're
they're
in
that
driveway,
so
there's
that
driveway
is
very
risky
and
it
is
it's
so
there's
a
lot
going
on,
but
that's
it
wasn't
just
because
of
what
the
neighbors
not
meeting
with
you
or
refusing
to
discuss
the
project
with
you.
That
was
some
of
my
concerns,
but
the
other
concerns
were
what
I
just
addressed
so
I
don't
want
to
leave
you
with
the
impression
that
it's
just
the
neighbors
against.
G
V
A
The
next
steps
are
that
they
will
go
before
the
zoning
board
on
July
11th.
If
I
remember
correctly,
and
the
zoning
board
will
will
vote
whether
they're
proven
or
not.
They
will
ask
me
what
the
rec,
what
your
recommendation
was.
I
will
tell
them.
They
will
have
to
make
their
decision,
whether
to
take
that
in
whole
earned
part
or
to
ignore
it.
It's
up
to
the
zba.
A
G
G
K
H
H
So,
just
very
briefly,
the
building
would
be
ground
floor,
enclosed
parking,
be
seven
parking
spaces,
six
are
required
for
the
building,
but
where
the
parking
is
enclosed
and
there
are
set
back
violations,
some
dimensional
relief
is
required.
We
would
still
need
a
special
permit
for
the
parking
the
second
floor
above
the
parking
would
be
two
two
bedroom
units.
H
H
A
G
H
So
again
we
have
the
garages
here
and
a
single
family
here,
driveway
in
the
middle.
It's
not
the
most
attractive
lot
in
the
neighborhood
to
say
the
least
and
Mr
Florentino
is
trying
his
best
to
improve
it
and
put
a
nice
project
there.
That's
within
reason
and
will
fit
with
the
neighborhood
and
Beth
can
go
into
more
detail
about
the
project
and
the
design.
A
I
I
I
I
I
I
There
you
go,
can
you
okay?
So
can
you
go
back
up
one
more
time?
Sorry,
okay!
So
this
this
is
oriented
correctly.
So
this
is
where
you
come
in
the
garage
off
of
Library
Street,
like
I,
said:
there's
elevator,
there's
elevator
room.
We
have
trash
storage
here
entrance
on
this
side.
This
entrance
here
is
for
the
stairs
that
go
up
the
first
floor.
Unit
on
this
side
will
be
accessible.
A
couple
more.
I
And
what
happens
is
we
are
now
stepping
back
so
on
as
you're
looking
at
the
front
here
we
step
it
back.
I've
actually
stepped
this
back
about
10
feet
right
here.
So
this
unit
right
here,
which
is
accessible
with
the
elevator
kitchen,
dining
and
two
bedrooms,
two
baths
and
they
have
a
small
deck
here
and
they
have
a
small
deck
on
the
front
this
unit
on
this
side,
as
you
come
up,
the
stairs
you
go
into
a
hallway
because
the
stairs
are
too
rated.
I
You
go
into
the
hallway
to
this
unit
right
here,
which
is
a
little
smaller
two
bedrooms.
One
bath
you
take
the
left
and
the
handicapped
or
accessible
unit
is
two
bedroom.
Two
bath
go
the
next
one
on
the
third
floor,
as
you're
coming
up,
you
would
be
cut.
You
come
up
the
stairs,
so
what
happens?
Is
you've
got
the
main
stairs
downstairs.
It
comes
to
a
hallway
and
you're
going
to
go
up.
You
go
into
the
left
and
the
right.
Those
are
two
units.
These
two
units
are
two
floors.
I
We
have
living
space,
we
have
kitchen
dining
both
sides
and
again
this
is
the
deck
below.
For
the
unit
below
this,
is
this
unit's
deck
and
then
this
is
this
unit's
deck?
What
I've
done
is
I've
tried
to
make
sure
that
the
decks
don't
aren't
on
top
of
each
other,
so
it
gives
a
little
bit
more
privacy
with
with
the
areas
and
then,
if
you
go
one
more
floor
plan.
I
I
I
So
if
you
look
here
what
we've
tried
to
do
if
you're
looking
at
decks
and
stuff,
so
this
is
so.
This
unit
is
the
accessible
unit
right
here
they
have
some
space
on
the
front
and
they
have
a
small
space
on
the
side.
This
unit
right
here,
which
is
a
little
bit
of
a
smaller
unit
due
to
the
stairs
and
stuff
it
has
a
small
area
right
here
as
a
deck.
This
is
where
you
enter
the
building.
I
This
Juliet
Balcony
is
actually
the
stairs
that
go
up
because
you're
going
up
the
stairs
and
you're
Landing
right
here.
This
deck
right
here
for
this
townhouse
unit
is
set
back
from
this
deck
and
then
this
townhouse
unit
has
a
small
deck
on
the
front.
This
one
is
a
small
deck
on
the
front,
but
it
has
more
space
on
the
back,
so
everyone
has
their
own
outdoor
space.
Everyone
has
private
space
and
everyone
has
a
parking
spot.
I
I
I
I
I
Right
now
it's
supposed
to
be
they're
supposed
to
be
sold,
but
you
know
depending
upon
how
markets
go,
I
mean
we're
not
really
tied
to
to
selling
them
or
renting
them.
But
you
know:
Pedro
grew
up
here
in
Chelsea,
I
mean
he's
from
here,
so
he
owns
a
bit
of
property
here,
manage
it
take
care
of
it.
So,
but
right
now,
we'd
like
to
see
it,
as
you
know,
Condos
for
people
to
live
there
with
families.
C
I
G
I
J
I
G
E
I
know
that
was
a
significant
change
to
the
plans.
Yes
to
create
a
greater
setback,
right,
I
I
feel
like
it
breathes
a
lot
more
and
you
know
the
building
isn't,
as
you
know
too
large
on
the
site,
and
it
gives
the
butters
a
little
space
from
the
face
of
the
window.
So
I
commend
you
for
changing
that.
Thank
you.
E
L
Pedro
Florentino
in
the
last
meeting
the
zoning
board
meeting
was
it
when
we
were
two
weeks
ago,
the
I
spoke
into
all
of
all
of
the
butters
Tony
on
my
left.
Right
I
forget
his
name,
Jose
I'm,
sorry
on
the
left
and
then
Tony
on
the
right,
and
he
was
actually
very
pleased
with
what
you
mentioned,
because
right
now
the
garage
is
actually
are
right
on
his
property
line.
Right
now
with
the
setback,
it
actually
creates
more
space
for
him.
So.
L
I
A
I
I
I
mean
I,
have
no
problem,
adding
more
square
footage.
I
would
have
to
reconfigure
like
units
and
stuff
like
that,
but
that's
okay
I
mean
we
can
certainly
do
that.
We
can
do
that
and
we
can.
These
guys
can
go
over.
You
know,
keep
in
mind.
This
is
24
feet
in
here.
So
it's
you
know
double,
so
you
can
get
out.
I
So
if
this
comes
straight
across
what
what
we
were
saying
is
that
we
could
take
this
and
push
up
and
we
could
put
a
car
here
and
then
leave
that
one
open,
because
it's
a
little
bit
harder
to
turn
around
and
we
could
put
bikes
and
trash
there.
I
mean
we
have
multiple
options
for
that,
but
that
was
a
suggestion
to
extend
that
I'm.
Sorry.
What
first.
I
E
G
E
B
A
Just
let
me
explain
to
the
board
that
this
did
go
to
the
zba
at
their
last
meeting
early
this
morning
to
determine
whether
the
change
was
major
or
minor.
The
board
determined
that
the
use
was
Major
and
they
continued
to
a
hearing
and
in
July
it's
here
before
you
to
give
a
recommendation
on
the
special
permit.
T
T
So
this
is
my
bedroom
window
and
the
reason
why
I
put
it
up
there
is
because
if
the
previous
project
was
built,
it
would
be
blocking
the
sun
and
the
light,
and
also
a
lot
of
my
neighbors
felt
the
same
way
so
just
to
give
you
guys
a
little
idea
of
who
I
am
my
name's
Nicole
again
and
I'm
from
Chelsea
I'm
third
generation.
My
family
owns
a
plumbing
company
here,
I
just
had
a
baby.
My
family
and
I
have
lived
here
for
over
my
dad's
from
here.
T
My
grandparents
are
from
here
so
I'm
here
for
the
Long
Haul
I
love
my
home
I
love
my
community,
which
is
why
I
bought
the
project
next
door,
because
I
want
to
maintain
the
neighborhood.
So
the
modification
is
to
go
from
a
large
four-story,
three-tier
deck
building
to
just
the
existing
structure.
That
is
there.
T
T
So
just
to
give
you
guys
some
points
to
consider
for
why
I'm
downsizing,
John,
you
can
switch
the
slide,
so
the
site
is
a
particular
site.
It's
on
Hillside
Ave.
Hence
the
name
Hillside
it's
on
hill,
so
this
structure,
that's
there
now
is
a
better
fit
for
the
site,
which
is
why
I
want
to
keep
it
the
way
that
it
is
instead
of
going
forward
and
trying
to
build
this
huge
house
on
a
slope.
That's
going
to
be
detrimental
to
all
the
abutters,
not
only
me,
but
everybody
on
Hillside
Ave.
T
So,
like
a
lot
of
the
people
on
Warren,
said:
there's
water
runoff
when
you
start
to
take
out
trees-
and
you
do
all
these
different
things,
you're
creating
a
lot
of
issues,
even
though
they
have
these
great.
You
know
cult
tech
systems
and
different
things
like
that.
It
really
isn't
going
to
you
know,
protect
the
butters
in
the
way
that
just
leaving
it
well
enough
alone
would
do
as
far
as
housing
goes.
The
way
that
I
came
up
with
the
two
Studios
again
my
family
and
I
own,
a
plumbing
company.
T
We
have
seven
employees,
three
or
four
have
already
been
displaced
out
of
Chelsea
because
they
can't
find
housing.
It's
not
even
about
the
amount
of
money
it's
just.
They
haven't
been
able
to
find
it.
So
I
do
know
that
we
do
need
housing
because
they're
now
having
to
go
to
Lynn
they're
having
to
go
to
Revere
and
then
they're
having
to
come
you
to
work,
and
sometimes
it's
just
easier
to
find
work
in
your
city.
T
This
property
is
a
large
lot
with
a
lot
of
trees,
there's
maple
trees,
there's
pine
trees,
there's
different
shrubs.
It's
beautiful,
there's,
Cardinals,
Blue,
Jays,
there's
a
lot
of
wildlife
here.
That
would
be
disturbed
if
we
took
it
all
out
and
built
this
home.
So
I
want
to
keep
that
and
be
able
to
enjoy
it
with
the
other
community
members
and
then
the
neighbors
support
I've
personally
gone
to
each
and
every
one
of
my
neighbors
on
Hillside
on
Eleanor
I've
sent
I've
sent
John
the
letters
of
support
and
I
have
people
here
tonight.
T
But
a
lot
of
the
people
that
were
previously
opposed
to
the
other
project
have
supported
this
project
because
it's
just
a
better
fit
for
them
in
general,
so
like
on
Eleanor.
Some
of
the
people
were,
you
know,
opposed
because
they
really
enjoy
the
shade
and
the
canopy
type
feeling
that
the
trees
give
them,
and
that
would
be
gone
so
they
were
opposed
to
it.
But
now
it's
going
to
stay
and
they
love
it.
T
So
I
gave
you
guys
a
little
example
of
a
project
that
was
completed
in
the
same
neighborhood
it's
around
the
corner,
but
this
is
kind
of
the
idea.
So
this
is
also
two
units
with
parking
on
each
side.
These
have
driveways
will
have
a
garage,
but
this
is
just
an
example
of
what
was
previously
a
single
family
ranch
that
was
converted
to
two
duplex
style
apartments
or
condos,
I'm,
not
sure
if
those
are
condos
I'm
going
to
be
doing
Apartments
so
but
yeah.
T
So
that
was
just
an
example
of
something
that
was
previously
done.
That's
kind
of
what
our
look
is
going
to
be
with
the
ranch
style
and
then
the
next
slide
just
addresses
some
of
your
notes
that
you
had
asked
about
when
I
got
some
paperwork
back,
I
didn't
know,
I
was
going
to
come
to
planning
so
I
kind
of
put
this
together,
pretty
quick,
but
as
far
as
the
outdoor
lighting,
we
will
be
having
the
code
compliant
Lighting
on
the
front
and
the
back
the
landscape
plan.
T
So
this
property
is
directly
on
the
front
of
there's
not
that
much
Frontage
here
on
this
property
so
and
then,
obviously
the
back
is
a
sloped
backyard.
So
it's
really
already
landscaped
itself
with
the
trees
and
the
wildlife
Etc.
So
I'll
be
I,
live
next
door.
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
Frontage
I
have
a
picture.
I
kind
of
make
do
with
what
I
have
to
beautify
it:
I
have
window
boxes,
I
have
potted
plants,
so
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
guys
an
idea.
T
That's
my
house,
oh
in
the
trash
the
trash
will
be
stored
in
the
garage,
and
then
this
is
just
kind
of
a
summary.
So
my
house
is
on
the
left
and
I
have
potted
plants,
I
have
window
boxes
and
then
this
is
an
owl
that
sits
in
the
tree
on
that
property.
Again,
if
these
trees
are
taken
out,
the
wildlife
goes,
and
we
really
have
such
a
great
neighborhood
here
that
in
the
inner
city
we
don't
always
see
owls
in
different.
T
You
know,
Wildlife
I
also
want
to
let
you
guys
know:
I'm
a
new
mom
I
have
a
three-month-old.
If
I
wasn't
passionate
about
this
project,
I
wouldn't
be
here
tonight.
I
wouldn't
be
going
through
all
this,
so
I
just
want
you
guys
to
know
that
I'm
here
for
the
Long,
Haul
and
I
really
appreciate
your
consideration
and
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions.
J
Sure
thought
about
some
type
of
green
roof
instead
of
a
traditional
roof,
since
the
building
is
already
has
a
flat
I
thought
about
putting
something
like
so
that
you
could
have
a
garden
up
there.
So,
instead
of
just
instead
of
just
like
solar
panels
or
a
white
roof,
I
mean
it
is
because
there's
only
two
people
there
you
could,
you
could
put
a
access,
so
they
would
have
outdoor
space.
T
T
I
have
a
Butters
I,
particularly
kept
the
flat
roof
in
order
not
to
be
detrimental
on
their
property.
So
a
lot
of
Maya
Butters.
This
is
a
large
slope
there
on
Eleanor
we're
on
Hillside,
so
anything
over.
What's
already,
there
really
blocks
the
sun.
If
you
can
believe
that-
or
you
know
just
different
things
so
as
much
as
I
would
love
a
rooftop
garden
for
everybody,
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
appeasable
for
The
Neighbors,
but
yes,
I,
love.
T
T
U
U
A
A
Oh
okay,
aggregate
width
of
the
side
yards
minimum
broad
size,
minimum
lot,
size
per
unit,
minimum
front
yard,
setback,
minimum
side
yard
set
back.
It's
a
change
to
not
go
folk.
Any
change
to
non-conforming
structure
automatically
requires
a
special
permit
and
that's
the
minimum
number
of
osteopocket
spaces
requires
a
special
apartment.
T
As
far
as
parking
goals,
I
kept
the
two
garage
bases
which
we
feel
is
congruent
with
Studios,
because
you're
not
going
to
have
a
lot
of
people
in
there,
but
on
top
of
the
fact
that
we
are
providing
two
garage
spaces,
this
is
a
large
six
Bay
garage
now,
so
it's
a
huge
driveway
apron,
so
nobody
can
park
there.
So
if
this
is
approved,
I
have
to
put
the
sidewalks
in
like
I.
You
know,
I
have
to
hire
the
city
to
put
the
sidewalks
in,
so
that
will
be
creating
four
additional
street
parking
spots.
A
If
I
may
just
go
back
to
Jessica
your
comment
as
to
whether
this
is
Major
or
not
the
board
determinants
major,
because
it
required
a
different
level
of
relief
and
normally
that
would
go
before
the
public
for
input.
So
they
determine
that's
major.
For
that
reason,
it
wasn't
the
amount
of
change
or
anything.
It
was
literally
the
chance
to
give
the
public
to
make
a
comment
on
it.
C
C
C
G
K
T
T
A
lot
so
we're
going
to
keep
it
flat
and
yes,
I
will
take
that
in
consideration
and
I
can
I,
don't
think
I
could
do
the
solar
panels
just
because,
like
I
said,
adding
that
yeah,
you
know
I
would
I
would
do
the
garden
if
I
could
so
the
white
I
can
I
can
definitely
have
it
white,
though
cool.
Thank
you.
F
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
for
the
standard
conditions
as
applicable
to
add.
The
tenants
of
the
building
will
be
ineligible
to
participate
in
the
parking
sticker
program
to
provide
a
consistent
set
of
plans,
an
exterior
lighting
plan
consistent
with
International,
dark
sky
standards
and
a
landscaping
plan.
F
G
B
T
C
A
T
J
A
This
amendment
was
proposed
early
last
year
and
it
did
go
before
you
for
a
hearing
and
you
did
recommend
approval
as
worded.
It
went
back
to
the
council.
The
council
had
some
concerns
about
it,
but
and
essentially
tabled
it
if
I
remember
correctly,
so
it
was
never
brought
forward
for
a
vote
by
the
council.
Since
it's
been
more
than
six
months
since
they
looked
at
it,
it
has
to
be
presented
again
as
new.
So
therefore
it
comes
to
you
for
a
for
a
recommendation
to
the
council.
A
J
A
O
Actually,
this
was
proposed
when
Roy
was
the
president
of
the
council
and
eventually
he
was
voted
on
and
came
to
the
city
council.
We
we
were
never
able
to
hold
the
public
hearing
through
the
fact.
I
think
it
was
around
this
time
last
year
and
when
it
came
before
us
and
we
were
out
for
the
summer
and
then
we
came
back,
it
was
too
late
to
hold
the
public
hearing,
so
we
had
to
resubmit
it
back
to
the
plane.
He
bought
a
few
guys
that
vote
on
it
and
sent
it
back
to
Watson.