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From YouTube: City of Clearwater Airpark Advisory Board 5/3/23
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A
All
in
favor
all
right,
I
I,
don't
make
that
easy.
All
right,
where's
see
I,
don't
think
we
have
any
citizens
to
be
here
today.
Do
we
nope
okay,
so
we're
gonna
switch
up
our
new
business
items
a
little
bit
and
start
with
our
presentation
from
the
city
clerk.
C
Hello,
my
name
is
Rosemary
Collins,
City,
Clerk
and
I'm
here
with
my
queen
of
the
assistant
City
attorney,
so
Mr
Gandy
wanted
us
to
come
to
the
meeting
and
kind
of
go
over.
What
the
board's
mission
is
and
really
give
an
overview
regarding
Sunshine
Law
I
think
there
may
have
been
some
questions
from
the
board.
C
So
just
as
it
applies
to
this
board,
this
board
was
established
back
in
December,
5
2002
and
the
board
has
the
authority
to
recommend
action
to
council
that,
as
it
relates
to
the
maintenance
or
operation
of
the
Air
Park.
Now
since
I
know,
the
code
specifically
says
the
Air
Park
Advisory
Board
May,
initiate
studies
and
make
recommendations
on
the
operation
maintenance
of
the
Air
Park
to
the
city
council,
because
the
board
does
not
have
a
budget.
C
I
think
that
may
have
been
a
question
of
a
couple
of
the
newer
members
and
then,
more
importantly,
I
think
the
Sunshine
Law
Sunshine
Law
is
very
Broad
in
the
State
of
Florida
and
that's
why
I
brought
Mr
queeno,
so
he
can
give
you
the
The
Abridged
version
of
the
Sunshine
Law
in
terms
of
how
so
we
make
sure
that
a
We
are
following
obviously
Florida
statute,
but
more
importantly,
that
none
of
our
members
are
put
in
a
position
where
they
could
potentially
be
breaking
because
there
are
consequences,
and
so
with
that
I'm
going
to
have
Mr
fuino
and
throughout
the
discussion.
C
I
wanted
to
be
a
discussion.
So
if
there
are
any
questions,
please
feel
free
to
to
raise
them
either
myself
or
Mr
fuino
will
will
respond,
but
just
in
general
you
don't
have
to
wait
for
a
presentation.
If
there's
ever
any
questions,
you
can
relay
those
questions
through
your
board
liaison
Mr,
Gandy
and
he'll
he'll.
Advise
me
of
any
questions.
Okay,
yeah.
D
Thank
you,
madam
Clerk,
and
good
afternoon
board.
My
name
is
Michael
fawino
I'm,
a
senior
assistant,
City
attorney
with
the
city
of
Clearwater's
legal
department.
I
generally
represent
the
city
in
all
litigation
that
is
either
initiated
for
or
against
the
city
and
I
also
provide
legal
services
to
the
clerk's
apartment,
which
includes
men
and
sunshine
and
public
records.
Why
can't
we
speak
with
you
all
today,
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
heard.
D
So
Florida
is
going
into
Sunshine
Law,
it's
basically
codified
at
Florida
Statutes
chapter
286..
We
have
to
really
memorize
that
there's
three
basic
requirements:
Under
The
Lawns,
that
the
city
or
the
Border
commission
has
to
give
reasonable
notice
of
any
meetings
that
occurred.
Like
today's
meeting
we
have
to
the
meaning
itself
has
to
be
open
to
the
public.
What
you
kind
of
do
when
you
sell
your
citizens
to
be
heard,
and
the
midst
of
a
meeting
have
to
be
promptly
recorded.
D
That's
generally,
now
all
those
things
are
generally
handled
by
the
city,
Administration
staff,
the
clerk's
office
me
whoever
it
may
be
so
boarding
commission
members
generally,
don't
have
to
worry
about
that.
Well,
I
want
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
is
what
board
members
should
be
concerned
about,
and
that's
because
the
sunshine
laws
is
Broad
applies
to
both
appointed
members,
which
is
such
as
yourselves
and
elected
officials
like
the
city
council,
the
most
important
takeaway
I
can
get
you
can
all
can
take
them
today.
D
Is
that
a
sunshine
violation
occurs
wearing
two
or
more
board
or
commission
members.
You
meet
to
discuss
an
item
which
may
come
before
that
border
commission
for
Action,
outside
of
the
sunshine
meaning
outside
of
the
public
meeting
and
there's
a
there's
a
couple
of
words
there.
That
kind
of
there
are
some
drilling
down
on.
First
is
what
is
a
meeting
when
two
people
meet?
D
You
know
you
think
about
this
stuff.
You
think
about
Smokey
bathroom
deals
that
politicians
do
well
that's
more
for
them.
Okay,
but
another
story
of
a
meeting
under
the
under
the
law
could
be
just
an
innocent
phone
call,
a
text
message
or
a
Facebook
message.
Things
like
that
that
had
no
amounts
behind
it.
What
is
a
meeting
or
the
Declaration
and
then
what's
something
that
would
come
before
the
board
for
Action?
Well,
think
about
what
you
do
all
just.
Did
you
approved
minutes
right?
D
That
was
action
that
the
board
took
now
a
Sunshine
Law
violation
could
have
occurred
if
saying
got
the
draft
minutes
ahead
of
time
and
one
board
member
Texas
another
board
member
and
says
you
know
what
that
said,
clerk
put
a
period
well,
they
should
have
put
an
apostrophe
right,
Jesus
and
the
other
remember
replies
yeah.
So
you
know
what
I'm
going
to
do
I'm
going
to
reject
the
minutes.
D
D
You
have
those
bathroom
deals
and
in
that
case
the
law
defines
those
certain
violations
as
a
violation
as
a
violation
of
a
second-degree
wisdom
here,
which
means
that
the
Violator
could
find
up
to
60
days
in
county
jail
and
six
months
of
Probation
and
all
sorts
of
collateral
criminal
consequences
that
pull
up
from
that
those
are
normally
violate.
Those
Smoky
bathroom
deals.
D
Another
thing
could
be
removal
from
Office,
that's
could
be
provided
in
the
Florida
Constitution.
It
can
be
brought
a
lot
of
statues
and
very
welcome
become
right
for
me,
Governor
himself
or
herself.
Excuse
me
there's
also
non-criminal
penalties,
usually
for
knowing
or
closely
negligent
violations
at
a
statue
like
could
be
fines
of
up
to
500
hours,
and
then
there
could
be
civil
lawsuits
that
are
filed.
I've
defended
the
city
in
certain
sunshine
or
Legend,
Sunshine,
Law,
violation
lawsuits
in
most
cases
a
certain
Jewish,
but
it's
pretty
broad.
D
It
could
be
basically
anyone
sues
the
city
and
the
individual
members
and
says
that
whatever
action,
the
board
taught
whatever
it
may
be
proven
minutes
grants
whatever
it
could
be,
is
a
that
cross.
The
Court
to
declare
right
I
mean
that
the
action
never
happened
was
just
one
part
of
it
that
would
be
playing
taken
out
of
the
citizen.
D
So
it
becomes
a
big
time
stock
for
everyone,
and
so
you
know
I
say
all
this
or
anything
like
that,
but
because
I
know,
especially
our
advisory
boards,
you
guys
aren't
paid
a
whole
lot
of
money
to
do
this
stuff.
D
So
you
are
volunteering,
your
time
and
your
effort
to
do
good
work
for
frankly,
my
employer
to
show
you
clear
water
and
places
where
you
all
live
and
I
just
want
you
all
to
be
safe
and
knowledgeable
and
make
sure
that
when
you
do
these
sorts
of
things,
you
understand
what
you're
doing
why
you're
doing
it
so
again,
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
If
you
have
any
questions,
I'm
happy
to
answer,
do
you
have
any
questions
in
the
future?
You
can
direct
them
to
Clark
and
I'll
be
happy.
How
do
you
do
it?
A
Have
one
quick
question
so
there
was
I,
guess
some
confusion
during
the
RFP
process.
Barry
was,
you
know,
really
nice
and
came
up
and
talked
to
all
of
us
and
gave
us
his
business
card
and
said
we
can
come
and
talk
to
him,
but
we
weren't
quite
sure
if,
during
that
major
we
were
allowed
to
talk
to
either
him
or
Mr
King.
A
D
No
I
think
Madam
chair.
Your
initial
Instinct
did
not
do
anything
was
absolutely
correct,
because
one
in
doubt
don't
do.
Are
there
a
specific
statues
that
involve
the
RFP
process
and
generally
it's
once
in
our
P
time
limit
closes.
You
know,
no
one
that
makes
a
decision
is
really
supposed
to
speak
with
an
applicant
or
something
like
that.
So
I
think
you're
on
the
right
track,
even
though
what
you
are
doing
is
more
advisory
nature,
so
yeah.
D
So
when
was
an
RFB
process,
I
would
not
talk
at
all
because
again
even
innocently.
That
could
throw
the
whole
thing
into
The,
Hoots
and
then
I
will
have
to
restart
the
whole
thing
they
can
run.
A
court
found
that
it
was
a
violation
of
sunshine
afterwards,.
D
You
know
I
I,
think
you,
you
can
speak
with
them,
but
again
it.
It
also
depends
on
the
nature
and
the
context
of
the
of
the
conversation.
There
is
a
a
rule
that
says
when
a
board
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial
manner,
which
you
may
or
may
not
do.
There
is
a
presumption
of
prejudice.
If
a
board
member
discusses
a
proposed
action
with
some
of
them,
who
may
only
need
a
proponent
or
an
opponent
of
Rapid
faction,
so.
D
It's
okay,
now
that
presumption
of
prejudice
can
dissipate
in
certain
circumstances,
but
you
have
to
say
on
record
that
you
spoke
with
them
beforehand.
If
you
got
fill
out
a
form
and
now
all
becomes
a
little
bit
of
a
messy
thing,
so
I
would
I
always
advise
to
not
do
it
just
because
it's
easier
to
do
it
that
way!
They're
not.
A
C
Organization
representatively
knows
that
I
think
individually,
yeah
you
as
individuals,
can
talk
to
him
as
a
board.
You
cannot
so
you
can't
represent
the
board's
position
because
you
do
not
advise
Mr,
you
know
advise
the
air
park
or
the
fly
USA.
You
advise
city,
council,
so
I
think
that's.
The
important
distinction
here
is
that
as
an
individual
as
a
user,
yes,
any
any
of
the
users
would
have
that
ability
to
speak
with
him
and
to
discuss
any
of
your
concerns
or
whatever
recommendations
whatever
that
may
be.
C
But
if
you
are
approaching
him
as
a
member
of
the
board,
you
cannot
do
so
because,
again
remember.
According
to
the
code,
you
advise
the
city
council,
and
so
your
recommendations
to
city
council
be
XYZ.
We
want
more
garbage
cans
around
the
Air
Park.
That
recommendation
would
go
to
city
council
city
council,
publicly,
discuss
it
and
make
that
recommendation,
then
direct
Mr,
Gandhi,
okay,
when
you
meet
with
fly
USA.
This
is
what
council
is
directing
the
forecast.
D
And
it
gets
kind
of
tough
because
you
wear
dual
hats.
When
you
act
as
a
public
official,
you
have
your
officiant
hat,
which
is
what
was
called
when
you
go
on
punches
aboard.
But
if
you're
just
an
individual
airport
user-
and
you
want
to
say
hi
or
I
like
the
way
the
grass
looks
or
whoever
it
looks,
that's
a
different
matter.
D
Well,
you
do
again
depending
on
how
you're
approaching
it
if
you're,
if
you're,
assisting
I'm,
Mr
Schuler
I
live
at
101,
Betty
Lane
in
Clearwater,
I
just
want
to
say
hi
or
whatever.
It
may
be.
That's
one
thing,
but
that's
it,
but
you
know
the
lines
can
get
blurred
sometimes
which
and
that's
where
the
the
law,
that's
where
the
law
gets.
A
little
fuzzy
is
how
are
you
discussing
that's
where
I
met
with
the
context
of
the
conversation.
F
Yeah-
and
that
was
you
know,
it's
a
point
of
clarification
I.
If,
if
I
was
to
say
you
know,
I
want
to
go
over
and
talk
with
just
say
hello
to
the
folks
at
fly.
Usa
and
Maybe
walk
around
the
Airfield
and
say
yeah.
It
looks
good
or
hey.
You
know.
What
do
you?
Are
you
guys
going
to
do
about
this
payment
breakup
here?
You
know
things
like
that
at
what
point
do
I
am
I?
Okay,
at
what
point
am
I,
not
okay,.
D
I
mean
when
you're
attempting
to
speak
as
Mr
Lynn
an
individual
I
live
in
Clearwater
I.
Think
the
crack
needs
to
get
fixed.
That's
okay!
When
you're
saying
I'm,
Mr
Morton
I'm
an
Advisory
Board
member
of
the
Year
Park
Advisory
Board
committee,
then
that's
when
you
at
least
give
the
perception
that
you're
reporting
you
speak
on
behalf
of
the
board.
That's
not!
Okay!.
F
D
D
C
Wanted
to
add
that
every
board
member
will
please,
along
with
her
congratulations.
You've
been
appointed
to
the
board.
You
receive
a
packet
that
includes
I,
did
provide
you
at
your
seats,
an
updated
state
of
Florida's
ethics
and
sunshine,
Amendment
booklet,
and
it
does
include
sunshine
and
public
records,
and
some
ultimately
asked
questions.
It's
a
really
good
guide
to
look
at,
but
then
also
I
provided
a
copy
of
the
city
attorney's
memo
that
he
also
provides
in
terms
of
advised
reports
and
public
records.
C
I
think
one
of
the
main
important
things
to
go
away
from
this
is
that
a
if
you
have,
if
it's
more
than
one
of
you
talking
about
items
that
could
potentially
or
you're,
not
even
sure
that
it
may
come
just
I,
always
recommend.
If
you
don't
know,
then
don't
talk
about
it,
if
it's
more
than
two
and
it
could
it's
something
that
could
potentially
come
before
the
board.
The
other
thing
to
remember
also,
it
does
not
mean
that
you
can't
socialize
together
outside
of
board
meeting
business.
C
It's
just
perception
as
long
as
you're,
not
discussing
it.
That's!
Okay!
That's
not
a
problem,
but
if
you
are
not
sure
of
an
item
it's
always
best
not
to
and
then
more
importantly
when
Mr
Gandy
or
any
staff
member
or
you
receive
correspondence
from
a
citizen
do
not
engage
because
that
can
be
considered
a
sunshine
violation.
So
if
he
provides
an
email
you
can
respond
to
him.
But
let's
say
one
of
the
board
members.
You
decide
to
reply
all
so
everybody
knows
you
know.
C
C
C
F
C
A
So
I
think
one
last
thing
that
just
came
up
I
know
we
had
direction
that
if
we
had
complaints
about
the
Art
Park
that
came
to
us
directly
to
pass
those
on
to
Eric
what,
if
we're
hearing
like
Praises
of
the
air,
should
we
send
everything
to
you
or
I
mean
like?
Should
we
not
respond
at
all
or
just
be
like
thanks?
You
know,
that's
a
great
idea.
C
Whatever
the
case
may
be
positive
or
negative
share
it
with
the
liaison,
so
that
at
that
point
also,
it
can
be
shared
publicly
with
the
board
members
as
well.
So
no
that's.
Actually,
that
is
what
I
recommend
the
boards
of
eye
staff
is
that
if
you
receive
correspondence,
email
or
just
hey,
a
verbal
note
from
somebody
go
ahead
and
share
it
with
the
board
liaison.
So
in
terms
of
public
records,
our
servers
captures.
C
G
G
Afternoon,
everyone
Eric
Gandy
Marine
Aviation
director,
so
I'm
I'm
really
excited
to
be
here
today
because
there's
some
positive
developments
going
on
with
the
Air
Park
I'm
glad
that
miss
Colin,
Mr
fueno
could
come
today
because
I
thought
it
was
really
important.
I
know,
you
know
you
guys
get
material
to
review
in
terms
of
this,
but
but
it's
it's
a
challenging
space
to
operate
in
you're
volunteering
you're,
giving
us
your
time
and
it
can
be
very
confusing,
particularly
when
there
are
things
that
involve
operations
and
I.
G
Think
that's
the
biggest
challenge,
because
you
know
we
have
a
lease
agreement
with
fly.
Usa
and
you
know
when
you
look
at
the
Mandate
of
the
board
and
then
you
know
how
do
we
engage
in
that
space
and
and
I?
Think
it's
difficult
that
to
not
run
afoul
of
some
of
the
restrictions
we
have.
So
certainly
you
know
I'll
always
act
as
as
your
Louise
liaison
and
I
definitely
bccu
for
a
reason
it's
so.
If
you
do
respond,
you
can't
inadvertently
respond
to
one
another.
So
I
do
that
to
protect
you
from
inadvertently.
G
Just
saying
oh
great
thanks
and
it's
technically
could
be
a
violation,
so
I
think
that
that's
helpful
guidance
from
them
and
if
you
ever
have
a
question
that
you
could
certainly
ask
me
and
if
I
don't
know
the
answer,
I'll
get
with
the
clerk
staff
and
legal
one
just
make
sure
that
the
good
I
think
the
Casual
conversations
are
normal.
Human
beings
speak
outside
the
workplace.
G
Obviously,
but
you
know,
were
you
to
go
to
the
Air
Park
and
say
well,
I
want
you
to
do
this
this
way
or
you
should
do
it
that
way
and
then
speak
as
if
you're
a
board
member,
then
it
becomes
problematic.
Now,
if
the
board
has
a
consensus,
and
we've
talked
about
that
before,
where
all
of
you
agree-
and
we
would
like
to
to
you
know
this
is
our
opinion.
G
Certainly
I
can
bring
that
back
to
council
and
by
way
of
our
minutes
or
some
of
the
boards,
even
will
pan
a
lighter
to
Council
on
occasion,
if
it's
out
of
sync
I
think
sometimes
that's
the
biggest
challenge.
Is
our
meetings
being
quarterly
or
out
of
sync,
with
business
decisions
that
we
have
to
make
quickly?
I
think?
G
That's
always
you
feel
left
out
and
you
feel
as
if
well,
I
I
had
something
to
contribute
to
that,
but
there's
no
mechanism
to
effectively
deal
with
the
the
rapid
pace
of
business
decisions
and
operational
decisions
that
we
have
to
make
that's
and
that's
why
the
boards
and
even
Council
are
kind
of
carved
out
of
operations,
and
you
know
City
management.
People
like
myself
exist,
and
this
is
even
more
complex
because
we
have
a
lease
agreement
for
the
operation.
G
Hopefully
that
was
helpful
and
again
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
guys
had
as
individuals
or
a
group
and
at
least
work
with
the
clerk's
office
to
get
good
answers.
So
you,
you
feel
comfortable,
that's
what
this
was
about.
Comfort
level
and
I
will
speak
for
our
newest
member
Mr
Crockett.
This
was
for
his
benefit
as
well
being
a
new
member
I
wanted
the
clerk's
office
to
come
and
speak
to
that
and
try
and
do
that
anytime.
G
We
get
a
new
member
is
just
give
up
a
brief
synopsis
and
overview
so
without
anything
further.
Let
me
talk
about
the
exciting
stuff,
so
we've
got
multiple
projects
in
the
works.
Some
are
solely
our
responsibility
that
we've
been
moving
towards
and
wanted
to
ensure
this
agreement
was
done
before
we
pursued
them.
G
Have
three
projects
going
before
Council
Grant
agreements
with
fdot,
the
first
being
a
Mill
and
overlay
project?
The
total
project
cost
is
two
million
dollars.
The
expectation
is
that
fdot
is
going
to
provide
1.6
million
of
that
and
a
city
and
the
Marine
Aviation
Department's
Airpark
fund
will
provide
400
000
out
of
reserves
as
the
20
match.
G
This
is
based
on
the
pavement
management
plan
that
we
have
from
the
state.
We
supplied
our
engineering
department
with
that
pavement
management
plan
and
then
take
a
look
at
the
scope
of
the
project
and
the
the
bids
are
as
a
result
of
looking
at
those
areas
that
need
attention.
Now
there
were
some
that
needed
attention
several
years
ago
and
they
didn't
get
that
attention.
So
that's
where
we're
going
and
I'll
be
going
to
Council
on
the
15th
for
that
project.
G
Solely
funded
by
the
city,
the
next
really
exciting
one
is
the
terminal
design
that
is
a
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
project,
240
000
paid
by
fdot,
sixty
thousand
matched
from
the
city
which
will
be
reimbursed
from
fly
USA
as
part
of
our
agreement
and
finally,
also
on
May
15th.
Finally,
the
golf
cart
and
I'll
use
that
term
for
the
existing
thing
it's
from
1986.
G
G
I!
Guess
it's
a
golf
cart,
but
it's
seventeen
thousand
dollars!
That's
a
heck
of
a
golf
cart.
It's
13-6
from
fdot
3400
from
airport
funds
and
fly
USA's
reimbursing.
That's
for
that
as
well
used
to
do
our
our
audits
of
the
facility.
Look
at
equipment
move
passengers
around
hoof.
G
G
But
we
are
talking
several
miles
of
fence,
as
you
might
suspect,
4
100
feet
of
Runway
with
buffer
zones
at
each
end
and
then
the
width,
it's
it's
a
significant
expense
and
the
entire
tree
line
on
the
west
side
of
the
property,
where
we
boarded
a
landing
task
to
be
cleared
out.
It's
growing
through
the
fence
over
the
fence.
It's
a
mess!
So
that's
a
much
more
ambitious,
much
more
expensive
project
that
the
city
will
be
pursuing
with
other
departments
and
that's
our
responsibility.
G
The
other
thing
we're
doing.
We've
got
some
quotes
that
came
in
for
the
perimeter,
fencing
and
the
overgrowth
and
the
stuff
growing
through
it
and
under
it,
and
we're
going
to
have
address
that
along
Hercules
and
along
the
berm
to
the
South
side
and
top
some
of
the
larger
trees
in
there
just
for
safety
purposes
and
clearance
purposes.
H
G
I'd,
never
even
contemplate
it,
but
you
know
we
had
a
security
gate
mowed
down
by
a
guy
in
a
stolen
car.
It
took
quite
a
while
to
get
that
replaced.
But
Barry's
initial
evaluation
was
at
WISE
Grand
Avenue
closed
and
you
know,
could
we
make
it
safer
if
we
put
an
entrance
in
there
and
we
looked
at
it
and
said
absolutely
I'd,
rather
folks,
Drive
in
any
place
other
than
a
taxiway.
G
G
G
I've
got
to
go
with
engineering
for
an
update,
but
they
were
looking
at
bids
and
they
received
a
couple
and
we
were
going
to
try
and
see
if
one
of
our
RV
contractors
to
be
amounts
to
two
months,
we're
looking
at
a
couple
different
things
there
and
you
know-
I'm-
really
excited
about
the
prospects
going
forward
to
enhance
some
safety
and
address
some
some
long
neglected
issues
that
that
can's
been
kicked
down
the
road
for
too
long
and
the
million
overlay
is
a
big
one.
G
You
know
there
was
some
timetables
in
there
and
going
back
to
address
stuff,
it's
a
big
project,
and
you
know
it
will
require
some
Logistics
and
coordination.
We
certainly
don't
want
to
Mill
I
overlay,
a
section
that
we
may
be
improving
with
the
new
terminal
or
something
of
that
nature.
F
And
then
we'll
get
on
the
final
idea
of
one
and
then
are
you?
Are
you
hiring
someone
to
do
the
inspection
of
the
placement
construction
supervision?
Oh.
G
Yeah,
so
so
the
way
this
works
is
so
we
we
work
hand
in
hand
with
the
engineering
department,
they
assign
a
project
number
and
an
engineer
to
the
project,
and
then
they
shepherd
it
through
and
and
they
handle
that
at
that
and
and
then
what
we
do
is
we'll
collaborate
with
with
fly
USA
and
just
ensure
once
we
get
a
design.
What
what
are
we
getting
to
address?
We
just
have
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
something
that
we're
going
to
rip
out
in
a
year
to
put
something
else
there.
G
F
G
G
Yeah
yeah
and
it's
it's
it's
kind
of
piecemeal,
because
the
the
pavement
management
plan
identified
areas
that
need
attention
and
they're
not
kind
of
continuous
yeah
I
mean
so
you'll
have
some
areas
that
need
it
now
and
then
so,
there's
varying
levels.
So
it's
a
little
more
complicated
than
just
saying
we're
going
to
do
x,
amount
of
square
feet.
It's
all
identified
based
on
the
pavement
management
plan.
It
will
period
they
identified
as
needing
attention
now
versus
those
that
may
need
attention
later,
and
they
actually
have
we're
just
beyond
a
few
of
them.
F
Is
there
any
any
new
pavement
being
put
down
aside
from
the
middle
no
additional
Square.
E
Question
about
the
gates,
if
something
unpleasant
happens
with
that
gas
station,
the
natural
gas
station
outside,
is
there
a
easily
accessible
instant
way
to
get
out
of
the
airport.
G
Well,
yeah
climb
over
the
fence,
I
mean
I,
I,
don't
mean
to
be
flipping
about
it,
but,
but
certainly
if
there's
a
problem
with
a
CNG
plant,
I
would
expect
that
everyone
would
Retreat
to
a
alternate
location
and
we
would
we
would
find
a
way
out,
but
but
certainly
there
are
other
Gates
that
the
city
can
open
throughout
the
property.
G
So
we
have
access,
fire
has
access,
PD
has
access
in
the
event
of
any
kind
of
an
emergency,
I've
got
keys,
my
staff
has
keys,
PD
has
key,
fire
has
keys,
so
no,
there
is
the
ability
to
open
an
alternate
entrance
exit
location.
In
terms
of
of
what
would
happen
if
we
had
something
at
the
CNG
facility
yeah,
we
would
not
be
using
that
entrance
in
an
exit
for
that
period
of
time.
G
E
A
So
for
the
terminal
design
has
it
been
determined
yet
the
size
in
scope
with
the
design,
or
is
that
all
part
of
the
process?
It's.
G
All
part
of
the
process
we
had
a
preliminary
meeting,
so
the
first
step
in
the
process.
I
have
to
get
a
council
resolution.
Fdot
requires
a
resolution.
It's
not
just
a
straight
up
and
down
vote.
It's
a
resolution
from
Council
to
support
the
project
for
its
lifespan,
golf
carts,
five
years,
the
major
projects
20
years
or
the
life
of
the
project.
So
ultimately,
what
we
do
is
we
get
the
approval
and
then
we
do
in
either
RFP
or
RFQ
to
ascertain
scope.
But
we
already
had
a
preliminary
meeting
with
fly.
Usa.
G
G
So
I'm
getting
a
resolution
to
obtain
the
funds
necessary
to
then
pay
somebody
to
do
that.
So
it's
it's
a
linking
process
and-
and
you
know
it's-
it's
there's
a
lot
of
steps
along
the
way,
but
you
know
we're
trying
to
move
relatively
expeditiously
and
got
the
grant
funding
relatively
quickly
from
fdot.
So.
A
G
A
H
Thanks
for
having
us
today,
guys
the
as
I
think
you
all
know
the
you
know,
the
initial
turnover
of
the
airport
was
a
little
bit
chaotic
and
and
I
want
to
first.
Thank
you
know
Eric
and
Mike
and
their
team
in
the
way
they
approach
this
and
helped
us
get
through
that.
H
You
know
when
you're,
when
you
enter
into
an
agreement
like
the
one
we
entered
to
with
the
city,
you
know
you're
always
concerned
it's
going
to
be
a
lesser
or
less
a
relationship,
and
you
know
I
think
our
intention
from
the
very
beginning
was
that
you
know
we
wanted
to
take
approach
this
as
a
partnership
and
we're
very
much
feeling
that
that's
the
city's
approach
to
this
and
it's
been
great
working
with
your
team
over
the
you
know
over
the
last
couple
months
as
we've
gotten,
the
facility
stood
up
so
I
didn't
want
to
didn't,
want
to
not
mention
that.
H
So
thank
you,
as
you
guys
know,
we've
in
I'm,
assuming
you
know
you
all
received
the
15
and
30
day,
updates
that
we
sent
to
the
city
yeah
yeah.
So
so
you
have
a
good
idea
of
what
we've
you
know.
H
What
we've
accomplished,
I,
think
we're
Our
intention
on
a
go
forward
basis
is
to
provide
those
updates
monthly,
so
we'll
have
a
60-day
update
that
we're
going
to
try
and
get
to
to
the
city
and,
ultimately,
to
you
guys
in
the
next
few
days,
and
you
know
I
think
it'll,
be
that
same
same
format
really
talk
about
our
safety
initiatives
first,
because
safety
is
first
and
foremost
with
us
and
then
go
through
the
different,
the
various
commitments
that
we've
made
to
the
city
as
it
relates
to
removing
on
airworthy
aircraft
or
our
community
relations,
or
making
sure
that
our
fuel
pricing
is,
you
know
among
the
lowest
in
the
Tampa,
Bay
Area.
H
You
know
we'll
continue
to
hit
home
those
points
and
and
track
that
progress
for
you.
You
know
to
recap:
on
a
safety
perspective,
one
of
the
first
things
we
did
and
we
the
day
we
took
over,
was
bring
two
new
fuel
trucks
to
the
facility.
These
are
newer
trucks
with
more
extensive
safety
and
monitoring
capabilities
than
what
was
previously
there.
H
So
we
certainly
see
that
as
a
step
forward
with
from
a
safety
perspective,
even
though
some
of
the
line
guys
have
been
there,
for
you
know
a
dozen
or
14
years,
everyone
there
that's
working
is
going
through
new,
well,
not
new,
but
industry
recognized
training
to
really
bring
the
the
and
standardize
the
training
to
into
another
level.
From
our
perspective,
we
quickly
during
our
due
diligence
process.
H
We
realized
that
a
lot
of
the
equipment
around
the
fuel
Farmers
out
of
date,
the
fuel
hoses
Etc
and
we've
we've
updated
all
of
that
and
made
all
that
equipment
current
at
a
cost
of
about
seven
thousand
dollars
to
US
the
city.
Didn't
did
not
have
to
contribute
to
that,
and
you
know
now
we
feel
again.
It's
another
safety
Improvement
and
you
know
bring
stuff
back
up
to
code,
so
feel
good
about
that
as
I
think
you
know
we're
working
on
having
an
instrument
approach
installed
or
published.
H
We
negotiate
an
agreement
with
a
consulting
firm
called
flight
tech
engineering
out
of
Colorado.
We've
just
executed
an
agreement
with
them
and
the
city
in
the
last
two
weeks,
I
think
and
they're
there
now
moving
forward
with
assisting
us
and
getting
an
approach
published
for
Runway
one
six,
we've
already
had
dialogue
with
Tampa
approach.
They
seem
to
be
very
receptive
of
everything
that
we're
trying
to
accomplish
so
there's
nothing.
We
have
seen
or
heard
from
the
FAA
or
the
consulting
firm.
H
That
leads
us
to
believe
that
they're
that
we're
going
to
have
a
problem
accomplishing
that
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
skepticism
as
we
went
through
the
process
and
whether
that
was
possible
or
not,
and
we
feel
feel
pretty
confident
that
that's
something
that
we'll
be
able
to
accomplish
in
the
next
12
months-
and
you
know
we
think
that's
a
big
deal.
We
just
approach
improve
safety
and
utility
of
the
airport
and
and
again
you
know,
there's
nothing
more
important
than
safety
right
from
an
overnight
security
standpoint.
H
We
now
have
we're
basically
staffed
there
24
7.
Now
we
did,
we
did
change
things
a
bit
from
what
they
were
before.
As
you
guys
know,
the
guard
shack
is
on
the
inside
of
the
fence.
Instead
of
having
someone
in
the
guard
shack,
that's
inside
the
fence,
which
is
maybe
on
the
wrong
side
of
the
fence,
we
have
the
security,
is
in
the
actual
FBO
terminal
and
there's
a
local
firm
that
we
hired
to
help
us
with
that.
H
The
kind
of
an
extension
of
what
we're
doing
and
all
all
signs
are
that
that
relationship
is
going
to
is
going
to
work
out
well.
So
we
feel
good
about
that.
As
Eric
said,
we
did
identify
that
the
employees
and
tenants
of
the
north
hangers,
you
know,
which
is
the
Tampa
Bay
aviation
maintenance
facility
and
the
corporate
Hangar
had
to
drive
on
a
taxiway
to
get
to
the
to
the
hangars.
We
thought
that
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
explore
putting
a
gate
in
Access
gate
on
the
Grand
Avenue
entrance.
H
The
city
was
again
receptive
of
that.
I
agreed
that
it
was
a
good
idea,
agreed
that
it
aligned
with
our
goals
to
improve
safety
and
utility
at
the
airport,
and
you
know
we
look
forward
to
having
that
installed
over
the
next
next
couple
of
months
as
it
relates
to
the
on
airworthy
or
uninsured
and
an
airplane,
and
on
inactive
airplanes.
I
think
we've
identified
about
20
planes
that
that
we'd
like
to
have
have
relocated.
We've
sent
out
five
non-renewal
letters
to
some
lessee's.
H
Three
of
them
have
left
voluntarily
another
one
should
be
gone
next
week
and
the
fifth
one
looks
like
he's,
considering
selling
a
couple
fractions
of
his
plane
to
someone
else
and
the
plane
starts
flying
it's
with
it's
with
Bender
Aviation
becoming
current
now,
so
we
we
see
that
as
a
positive
outcome.
Also
so
will
continue
to
keep
you
updated
on
the
status
of
you
know
those
efforts
from
a
community
engagement
standpoint.
H
We
had
two
events
in
March:
one
was
three
or
four
days
after
we
took
over,
which
was
it,
which
was
a
bit
much.
That
was
the
wine
Wheels
and
Wings
event
for
the
Tampa
Bay
Art,
Foundation
I
think
everyone
about
200
people
attended.
It
was
a
great
event
and
I
think
they
raised
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
I
think
by
all
Mark.
That
was
a
successful
event.
The
following
week,
we
had
a
young
Eagles
event
on
March
11th,
which
also
went
off
well
and
then
this
coming
weekend,
there's
a
pretty
interesting
event.
H
I
think
the
there'll
be
a
young
Eagles
event
by
the
FBO
EAA
and
the
99s
are
having
a
pancake
breakfast
fly-in
by
the
EAA
Hangar
and
there's
going
to
be
a
swap
meet
by
the
vendor,
Hangar,
where
they're
selling
people
have
Surplus
stuff
and
their
hangers
have
an
opportunity
to
sell
it
so
looking
forward
to
to
another
another
good
event
on
a
go
forward
basis,
we're
we're
going
to
try
and
consolidate
events
on
the
second
Saturday
of
every
month
and
kind
of
brand.
H
It
second
Saturday,
okay
and
work
with
the
EAA
in
the
99s
and
the
Young
Eagles
and
and
the
community
to
you
know,
figure
out
what
we
can
do
to
again
be
a
little
bit
more
welcoming
to
our
neighbors
in
and
around
the
airport,
and
you
know,
help
activate
the
facility
so
we'll
stay
tuned,
we'll
we'll
keep
you
abreast
of
how
that's
going.
H
H
There
was
a
little
confusion
over
especially
on
the
weekend
morning,
hours
on
what
was
permitted
and
what
wasn't,
but
I
think
we've
gotten
through
that
now,
and
we've
actually
started
receiving
some
positive
feedback
from
the
neighborhood,
where
they're
saying
that
they
are
seeing
the
reduction
in
intensity
of
the
flight
training,
and
you
know
we'll
continue
to
work
with
them
to
continue
to
improve
the
the
the
balance
that
we
talked
about
throughout
this
process
of
of
activities
at
the
airport.
So
I
think.
That's!
That's
all
good
the
biggest
complaints
we've
been
hearing.
H
You
know
when
we
first
started.
There
was
a
lot
of
confusion,
the
first
two
weeks
about
something
as
simple
as
phone
numbers.
You
know,
with
the
phone
number
for
the
change
we
weren't
able
to
obtain
the
phone
number
that
the
fbos
had
for
the
last
30
years.
H
It
was
terminating
in
an
answering
machine,
so
a
lot
of
people
that
were
coming
showing
up
saying,
I
left
you
a
message
said
we
were
going
to
be
here
and
that
we
we
never
got
the
message-
and
you
know
so,
there's
a
bit
of
you
know
back
and
forth
in
consternation
about
that.
But
I
think
we're
fundamentally
through
that
and
that's
died
down.
A
couple
of
the
tenants
have
been.
You
know,
vocal
about
some
of
the
rent
increases.
H
As
you
guys
know,
from
the
from
the
presentation,
there
were
no
running
increases
for
the
tie
down
tenants.
The
shade
hangers
went
up
about
20
a
month
and
then
but
the
T
hangers
at
a
slightly
more
significant
for
an
increase
about
a
hundred
dollars
a
month,
but
at
the
same
time
we
increased
the
rent
we
reduced.
H
Our
fuel
prices,
so
we
reduced
our
retail
fuel
markup
by
50
Cents
a
gallon,
and
then
we
increased
the
tenant
discount
from
20
cents,
a
gallon
to
50
cents,
a
gallon,
so
tenants
at
the
airport
were
saving
80
cents
a
gallon
after
we
took
over
from
what
the
previous
pricing
was.
Our
pricing
philosophy
was
this
benefits
the
most
active
tenants
and
that's.
What
we
wanted
to
do
is
attract
and
attract
active
tenants.
So
you
know
that
was
kind
of
the
why?
H
Our
fuel
pricing
I've
include
I've
started,
including
a
slide
that
has
our
you
know:
full
service
fuel
pricing
for
I.
Guess
it's
five
airports
around
the
Tampa
Bay
Area.
Thank
you
for
the
suggestion
and
we'll
continue
to
include
that,
and
you
will
find
that
we
are
the
least
expensive,
full
service,
100
low,
lead
fuel
in
the
Tampa
Bay
Region,
so
that
is
Our
intention
to
or
our
goal
is
to
make
sure
that
that
we
stay
competitive.
That
way,
that's.
H
Let's
see
issues
overnight
issues
we
did
have,
we
haven't
had
any
flights
come
in
after
11
p.m.
Before
7
A.M,
it's
a
two
months
of
no
issues
there.
We
did
have
an
issue
with
the
vaccine
lighting
system.
On
the
first
weekend
in
April
we
notified
the
FAA.
We
issued
a
nodum,
took
them
about
three
days
to
come
out
and
fix
it.
H
That
is
the
one
part
of
the
Air
Park,
where
there
they
are
responsible
for
maintaining
had
one
other
complaint
that
came
through
the
city
about
Runway
lights
that
were
not
working
at
night.
We're
pretty
sure
that
was
pilot
error.
H
We
checked
the
lights
every
morning
every
evening
and
you
know
so
we're
you
know
the
airport
is
it's
hard
to
find
at
night
and
that's
one
of
I
think
one
of
the
things
you'll
find
in
one
of
our
next
updates
is
we're
going
to
put
a
rotating
beacon
in
to
help
with
with
visibility
after
dark,
and
we
think
that's
that's
probably
another
safety
Improvement.
That
should
be
a
pretty
pretty,
not
not
a
terribly
heavy
lift
for
us.
H
So
so
with
that
recap
happy
to
open
up
to
you
guys
for
any
questions
that
I
might
be
able
to
answer
for
you
today.
F
I
I
have
a
comment
and
a
question,
and
my
my
comment
is
that
I
think
you're,
newsletters
or
informational
letters
which,
however,
you
want
to
call
it
I,
think
that's
great
I
know
from
my
standpoint,
I
really
appreciate
seeing
what's
going
on
and
what
you've
done.
I
think
that's
that's
really
positive.
Thank
you.
I'm
I'm
curious
on
the
instrument
approach.
What
type
approach
is
it
going
to
be?
We
don't
know
yet
I
can
guess
until
it
would
likely.
H
Be
an
LP
plus
fee,
the
minimums
will
be
kind
of
high,
probably
in
the
500
foot
range
yeah
because
of
the
water
tower
I
believe
so,
but
we
won't
know
that,
for
you
know,
for
a
few
months
the
consulting
firm
will
work
with
Tampa
approach
and
agree
on.
You
know
what
the
you
know,
what
the
right,
but
the
right
answer
is
but
I
couldn't
I
couldn't
say
that
definitively
today,
okay,.
E
Take
a
look
at
things
every
once
in
a
while.
I
would
happen
to
go
out
in
the
evening
and
met
the
security
guard.
He
was
very
courteous
and
I'm
very
happy.
You
hired
a
military
veteran
who
has
MP
experience
so
I
think
you've
got
that
covered
very
well
thanks.
A
Okay,
well
I'll
just
go
with
my
my
list
that
I
have
I
also
want
to
commend
you
for
the
report.
A
I
also
really
enjoy
seeing
things
you
have
planned
what
you're
currently
doing
and
the
successes
that
you've
had
and
it's
very
easy
to
read
and
understand,
format
and
I
think
that's
also
helpful
for
the
tenants,
because
I've
heard
that
you've
shared
that
out
with
them
too
and
they've
been
able
to
read
it,
and
so
that
you
know
it's
very
easy
to
go
through
the
whole
thing
and
I
also
appreciate
you
being
open
to
adding
those
additional
relevant
airports,
because
since
then
I
have
not
heard
anything
from
anybody
saying.
A
H
H
H
Actually,
the
so
the
city
came
in
and
actually
helped
us
level
the
North
Field.
So
we
were
doing
work
where
they
were
on
the
North
Field.
There
was
a
berm.
There
was
some
garbage
in
there,
so
We've
that
is
now
now
been
leveled
and
I.
Don't
my
if
things
go
the
way
they
will
all
those
planes
will
be
gone
soon
and
it
won't
matter
where
they
are
because
they
won't
be
there
anymore.
A
H
E
H
Well,
you
know
we'll
we'll
be
a
little
bit
more
assertive
with
the
press
and
and
marketing
some
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
in
the
future.
We
really
needed
to
spend
the
first
few
months
just
getting
our
arms
around
everything
first,
so
you
know
what
but
I
you
know
message
received.
We
want
to
let
people
know
about
the
events
and
we'll
do
more
on
that.
H
F
F
I
was
you,
you
said
one
of
the
events
early
on
had
a
couple
hundred
people
attend.
Was
there
a
parking
issue
at
all?
No.
H
We
had
a
they've
done
it
there
for
seven
years
in
a
row,
so
they
really
had
it.
They
had
it
figured
out
what
they
did
was
they
that
Grand
Avenue
gate
we
talked
about
they,
we
opened
that
up,
they
drove
in
that
ramp
and
they
had
valet
service
there.
The
valets
would
park
the
cars
down,
Grand,
Avenue
and
then
bringing
back
is
you
know,
as
folks
finished
up
yeah,
so
I
think
there
were
probably
70
cars
there,
but,
but
it
was
Grand.
H
F
H
G
And
I
think
Barry
really
touched
on
it.
We
we
have
a
really
good
partnership
going
on
with
them
right
now
and
they're,
trying
to
address
things
collectively
and
one
of
those
things
is
neighborhoods
and
any
complaints
we
might
get
I
think
there's,
there's
tremendous
value
in
being
able
to
educate
people
on
what's
possible.
G
What's
not
how
aircraft
actually
fly
versus
flying
a
pattern
you
would
you
would
equate
to
driving
a
car
and
I
think
it
was
it's
really
important
that
we,
when
we
had
the
opportunity
that
we
can
meet
the
folks
and
discuss
that
with
them,
because
I
think
you
know
don't
fly,
don't
understand
that
there's
performance
issues
associated
with
some
of
these
Maneuvers,
particularly
takeoffs
and
landings
and
pattern
work
and
their
pattern
altitudes
that
are
prescribed
so
I
think
you
know,
we've
been
able
to
have
some
conversations
with
folks
along
the
way
and
I
think
that
level
of
Engagement
you
know
collectively
between
us
is
really
helpful.
G
G
G
G
You
know,
evaluate
the
totality
of
the
circumstances
out
there
and
move
things
along,
but
I'm
really
optimistic.
We
have
a
good
working
relationship
or
a
phone
call
away
and
again
for
you
guys
on
a
phone
call
away.
So
if
something
comes
up,
certainly
I
could
be
the
conduit
for
information.
It's
when
you
know
we,
we
have
these
meetings
and
you
have
a
consensus
or
of
a
very
specific
issue
that
we
want
to
bring
to
council's
attention.
We
can
absolutely
do
that
too,
but
I
think
you
know
it's
all
a
partnership.
G
Very
helpful,
but
just
you
know
glad
that
there's
been
a
couple
months
and
things
things
have
definitely
turned
around.
In
my
opinion,
and
the
the
emphasis
on
safety
is
huge
and
I
think
that
that
is
probably
you
know,
the
primary
focus
on
any
small
airport
is
ensuring
that
that
you
know
we
keep
that,
first
and
foremost
in
our
consideration.