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A
C
Okay,
everybody:
we
are
going
to
call
our
special
meeting
of
the
air
park
advisory
board
to
order.
I
want
to
thank
eric
for
getting
this
put
together
on
such
quick
notice
and
being
able
to
accommodate
everybody's
schedule
for
this,
and
thank
you
to
all
the
public
that
has
shown
up
today.
It's
great
to
see
that
the
community
is
here
to
provide
their
comment
on
the
future
direction
that
they'd
like
to
see
the
airport
go,
because
I
do
think
that
keeping
the
community
involved
is
a
necessary
step
for
the
airpark
moving
forward.
C
C
New,
so
we
will
start
with
our
discussion
of
the
rfp
and
the
selection
committee's
recommendation
and
I'm
going
to
ask
eric
to
come
up
here
and
introduce
the
rfp
submittal.
D
D
D
So
I
think
we
always
have
to
be
sensitive
to
that,
and
in
my
conversations
with
mr
king
and
and
barbara
cooper
over
the
last
few
months,
that's
definitely
an
issue
to
contend
with.
I've
been
in
the
city
a
very
long
time
and
remember
those
times
when
the
neighborhood
came
out
over
linking
of
runways
and
other
such
items.
D
So
I
don't
want
anyone
to
lose
sight
of
the
fact
that
that
was
contemplated
as
part
of
this
rfp.
Another
component
of
the
rfp
that
really
is
important
is
the
fact
that
the
city
really
hasn't.
We
have
we
operate
an
enterprise
fund.
The
air
park
is
an
enterprise
fund,
which
means,
through
the
revenues
we
generate,
we
pay
our
operating
costs
and
we
reinvest
in
the
airport.
That's
the
model
over
the
years.
That
model
has
left
us
unable
to
invest
in
any
kind
of
ambitious
projects
at
that
airport.
D
The
revenue
is
just
not
there
to
to
activate
those
type
of
items,
so
we
focus
on
those
which
were
attainable
replacement
of
hangers
when
we're
able
to
safety
issues
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
ultimately,
I
also
want
to
explain
the
rfp
process.
I
think
there's
some
confusion
over
how
this
works,
so
we've
crafted
an
rfp
and
that
rfp
is
put
out
in
the
field
it's
advertised
and
we
look
for
responses
from
the
private
sector
to
see
what
kind
of
interests
we
get
when
you
look
for.
D
Would
the
rfp
asked,
for
you
know
higher
value,
less
intensive
that
could
have
been
anything.
It
could
have
been
an
avionics
repair
facility
there.
It
could
have
been
a
multitude
of
things
that
were
potentially
less
intensive,
safer
activities,
so
we
had
four
responses
and
those
responses
are
evaluated
by
a
committee
of
city
volunteers
that
spend
the
time
that
you've
spent
reviewing
the
rfp
itself.
D
What
we
asked
for
the
responses
and
then
the
presentations,
those
committee
members
or
from
a
variety
of
backgrounds,
but
the
art
process,
is
crafted
specifically
to
have
sealed
responses,
so
you
don't
have
a
competitive
advantage
in
one
person
having
or
one
firm
having
the
ability
to
see
another's
proposal
beforehand,
and
it
creates
a
little
bit
of
a
situation
because
you
have
this
period
of
time
when
you've
got
the
proposals
at
hand.
The
committee
members
can't
speak
amongst
themselves
over
the
proposals.
D
We
have
to
score
these
and
evaluate
them.
Based
on
the
proposals
and
the
responses,
we
got
we're
not
supposed
to
consider
political
influence,
we're
not
supposed
to
consider
outside
influence.
We
have
to
look
at
them
from
a
silo
if
you
will,
because
state
law
ordinances
that
require
us
to
make
sure
that
the
process
it
doesn't
have
any
kind
of
outside
influence.
So
hopefully
that
makes
sense
on
the
process,
because
there's
a
lot
of
confusion
over
that,
you
know
why.
Why
couldn't
the
public
opine
on
the
responses?
D
Well,
because
they're
not
public,
yet
the
only
opportunity
for
them
to
become
public
is
once
a
selection
has
been
made,
and
that's
why
we're
here
today
on
august
22nd,
the
the
final
presentations
were
reviewed
by
the
committee.
Prior
to
that
the
unanimous
committee
recommendation
was
to
go
with
the
firm
fly
usa
and
then
post
presentation.
D
We
had
the
same
conclusion
with
fly,
usa
prevailing
and
clear
to
air
park
inc
coming
in
second,
so
today
the
the
you
know
subsequent
to
this
process.
Mr
donald
and
I
had
conversations
about
the
potential
for
this
body
to
be
able
to
weigh
in
subsequent
to
the
recommendation,
and
I
think
it's
an
important
component
of
dialogue
that
we're
able
to
ask
questions
that
may
not
have
been
answered
in
the
proposals
or
what
you
were
able
to
see.
D
I
think
rumor
has
run
rampant
with
regard
to
some
of
this
I've
gotten
some
really
unique
questions
as
to
what
it
is,
what
it
isn't
so
for
that
purpose.
We've
discussed
that
this
body
can,
upon
reaching
a
consensus,
make
a
recommendation
to
counsel
on
your
conclusions
and
what
we've
done
is
I've
brought
fly
usa
here
today.
I'd
like
to
introduce
them
between
the
their
group
and
myself
we're
here
to
answer
any
questions.
Certainly
the
public
is
here
to
provide
public
input
to
help.
You
guys
come
to
a
consensus
on
a
recommendation.
D
D
D
So
ultimately,
they're
represented
by
brian
honks
jr.
There
is
a
principal
in
the
company,
as
is
mike
connor
and
I'll.
Let
each
of
them
speak
to
you
and
then
I'll
be
nearby.
Thank
you
gary.
E
I'm
625
court
street
clearwater
florida.
I've
been
a
resident
of
clearwater
for
34
years,
very,
very
familiar
with
the
history
of
the
air
park,
its
operations
and
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
encountered
as
a
community
over
the
years
that
the
council
has
been
well
aware
of
over
the
years
and
of
the
opportunities
that
exist
at
the
airpark
and
for
the
neighborhood.
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
fly
usa,
I'm
going
to
let
mr
shevlin
run
through
a
very
brief
presentation.
I
handed
out
some
copies.
E
It
is
more
concise
than
the
rfp
response
and
the
videos
of
the
presentations
to
the
staff.
I
do
want
to
point
out,
as
mr
gandhi
said,
this
is
not
a
final
selection
of
fly.
Usa.
This
is
authorizing
the
city
staff
to
enter
into
lease
negotiations
with
fly
usa.
If
those
lease
negotiations
don't
work
out
or
if
the
staff
feels
that
fly
usa
isn't
the
right
choice
after
the
lease
negotiations,
they
would
then
move
on
to
the
current
operator
clearwater
airport
inc.
So
this
is
not
a
final
determination
of
anything.
E
It's
simply
authority
to
enter
into
negotiations
with
the
highest
rank,
responsive
firm
from
the
rfp.
There
would
also
be
a
subsequent
public
city
council
hearing
on
the
final
lease
agreement,
so
the
public
will
have-
and
you
will
have-
and
I
would
anticipate
we'd
have
another
meeting
before
this
body
on
the
final
lease
agreement
and
a
recommendation
regarding
that
things,
such
as
noise
levels,
air
traffic
quantities,
all
types
of
issues
related
to
security.
Things
like
that
all
those
things
are
to
be
determined
in
negotiations
through
the
lease.
E
We've
also
been
guided
by
the
final
air
park
layout
plan
of
2020..
Our
proposal
is
the
only
proposal
that
commits
millions
of
private
capital
dollars
to
develop
and
fulfill
the
air
park
layout
plan.
So
this
proposal
proposes
increased
safety,
less
activity,
higher
efficiency
and
also
to
actually
fulfill
through
private
capital
dollars,
provided
by
mr
shevlin
and
mr
connor,
the
development
of
a
new
fbo
and
of
the
final
air
park
layout
plan
of
2020,
which
I'm
sure
this
body
was
involved
with
and
also
the
city
council
ultimately
approved.
E
So
at
this
point
I
will
step
aside
and
let
mr
shevlin
present
on
these
nine
pages
that
we
have
in
front
of
you
and
then
he
will
probably
be
the
best
person
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you,
brian
appreciate
it
thanks
for
taking
the
time
to
have
us
here
today.
We
we
certainly
appreciate
it.
As
brian
said,
I'm
barry
shevlin,
I'm
the
ceo
fly
usa
inc,
I'm
a
shevlin
s-h-e-v
is
in
victor
l,
I
n
and
I
live
on
clearwater
beach.
I've
lived
in
my
same
house
for
the
last
16
years
and
I
fully
expect
that
I'll
die
in
that
house,
just
hopefully
not
anytime
soon.
F
So
to
recap,
as
I
put
this
presentation
again
this
morning,
eric
mentioned
that
there
have
been
a
lot
of
rumors
and
speculation
on
what
our
intentions
were,
and
I
thought
I
could
take
a
minute
to
address
those
at
the
front
end
of
the
meeting
and
then
move
into
the
questions
that
you
guys.
The
more
specific
questions
you
may
have,
and
most
of
this
is
really
focused
on
on
safety
and
neighborhood
relations.
You
know,
to
recap:
I
mean
we've.
You
know
we
really
do
believe.
F
We
gave
you
guys
a
clear
and
ambitious
vision
with
a
fairly
detailed
plan
and,
as
brian
mentioned,
we
felt
it
was
the
only
response
to
the
rfp
that
did
that
we're
making
a
pretty
significant
financial
commitment
and
we've
got
a
proven
team
that
in
both
the
aviation
industry
and
real
estate
development,
which
is
an
important
component
of
executing
the
alp.
F
We
also
told
the
selection
committee
that
you
know
we
we're
not
really
looking
for
the
status
quo
and,
if
you
guys
are
we're,
probably
not
the
right
partner,
and
we
get
that
you
know
we
really
want
to
partner
with
the
city
to
build
a
state-of-the-art
facility
and
really
activate
the
air
park
and
prepare
it
for
the
future
of
aviation.
F
So
one
of
the
first
you
know-
I
guess
rumors
that
I
wanted
to
address
is
what
our
intentions
were,
what
it
means
with
flyers
say
moving
our
headquarters
there
I'll
start
with
what
it
doesn't
mean.
It
doesn't
mean
that
all
of
a
sudden
we're
going
to
have
tons
of
charter
traffic
flying
in
and
out
of
the
airpark.
F
You
know
the
positions
we'll
have
based.
There
will
be
our
executive
team,
our
finance
team,
our
fa
licensed
dispatchers
and
and
our
aviation
advisors
you
know
in
any
given
month
we
have
clients
that
fly
in,
and
out
of
you
know
hundreds
of
airports
around
the
u.s.
So
you
know,
even
though
just
because
we're
based
here
doesn't
mean
our
client
base
is
based
here.
In
fact,
in
the
state
of
florida
are
the
two
most
popular
airports
we
take
off
from
are
opelock
and
miami
and
fort
lauderdale,
exec
and
fort
lauderdale.
F
We
would
have
no
intention
of.
We
would
continue
to
use
tampa
and
st
p
clearwater
for
any
light
jet
or
larger.
You
know
missions,
so
we're
not
gonna.
F
All
of
a
sudden
have
a
bunch
of
mid-sized
jet
traffic
coming
through
the
air
park
and
over
the
neighborhood,
the
you
know
the
safety
issue
I
wanted
to
address
next
is
you
know
it
seems
like
there's
some,
you
know,
there's
been
a
story
line
that
somehow,
having
you
know,
turbine
aircraft
at
the
airport
would
reduce
safety
and
would
be
would
be
more
of
a
nuisance
to
the
community.
So
I
wanted
to
use
some
faa
data
and
share
it
with
you.
F
The
faa
says
that
turbine
engines
have
a
failure
rate
of
one
per
375
000
flight
hours
compared
to
one
for
every
3
200
flight
hours
for
piston
engines.
That
means
a
turbine
engine
is
about
117
times
less
likely
to
quit
than
a
piston
engine.
I
would
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
that
is
that
is
increased
safety,
not
decreased
safety
pratt
whitney
that
same
year
came
out.
F
They
didn't
like
that
data
point
and
they
wanted
to
point
to
the
data
on
their
pt6
engine,
which
is
pretty
common
in
a
lot
of
the
turboprop
planes
that
that
we
utilize
pratt
whitney
sold
over
50
000
of
those
engines
which
have
flown
over
400
million
hours.
That's
a
big
data
set
that
they're
taking
their
their
failure
rates
from
and
their
failure
rate.
They're
saying
is
one
one
in
every
six
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
hours.
F
So
it's
it's
really
hard
to
argue
that
a
the
piston
plane,
the
current
planes
are
at
the
park
would
be
any
safer
than
a
turbine
powered.
You
know
turboprop
and
the
turboprops
that
we
are
targeting
do
have
that
that
pt6
engine
noise
data-
you
know
the
we're
concerned
about
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
concerns
that
the
the
new
jet
traffic
coming
into
the
air
park
is
going
to
be
significantly
louder
and
more
of
a
nuisance
for
the
for
the
community.
F
Another
faa
data
says
cessna
172s,
which
is
the
primary
plane
that
the
flight
school
uses
today
have
a
takeoff
decibel
level
of
between
61
and
65,
depending
on
the
model,
so
we
could
say
63.
On
average
the
king
air
200s
the
same
takeoff
decimal
level
of
68.,
so
it
is
more.
It
is
a
little
bit
more
a
little
bit
more
noise.
F
Other
safety
benefits
of
the
turbine
powered
aircraft
is
a
much
higher
climb
rate,
so
the
the
cessna
172
is
a
climb
rate
about
700
feet.
A
minute
turbo
prop
has
a
climb
rate
about
2
000
feet
a
minute.
So
when
you
think
about
how
long
it
takes
to
get
to
15
or
1600
feet,
it's
45
seconds
in
one
plane
a
couple
minutes
in
the
other.
Why
that
altitude
is
important
if,
in
the
unlikely
event,
there's
an
issue,
that's
enough
altitude
turn
around
return
to
the
field.
F
So
you
know
so
the
you
know
there
are
also
some
you
know.
Conversations
about.
You
know
professional
flight
training,
and
you
know
the
fa
also
has
data
on
that
part.
135
operations
are
12
times
less
likely
to
have
an
accident
incident
than
part
91
operations.
Why?
Because
the
you
know
the
pilot
experience
is
going
to
be
higher.
The
typical
135
operation
has
requires
that
pilots
in
command
have
at
least
three
thousand
hours,
and
they
start
in
a
second
command
position
and
then
move
into
that
command.
F
Once
they
have
that
experience,
they
have
more
stringent
maintenance
requirements.
Some
some
maintenance
activities
that
are
optional
in
the
part
91
are
mandatory
under
part
135,
and
I'm
only
sharing
this
to
say
it's
just.
I
can't
understand
how
someone
could
position
a
professionally
flown
turbine
aircraft
as
more
dangerous
or
more
of
an
issue
to
the
you
know
to
the
community
than
than
the
current
planes
that
are
there.
So
so
again,
I
guess
you
know
finish
this
with
a
couple
questions
for
you
guys.
F
You
know
what
do
you
think
causes
more
noise
in
the
neighborhood
and
our
44
helicopter
taking
off
and
landing
10
times
a
day
or
a
turbo
crop.
That's
flying
in
and
out
a
couple
times
a
week
and
that's
you
know,
I
think,
that's.
I
think
you
get
the
point
on
on
safety,
so
love
to
address
any
other
issues
or
questions
that
you
guys
have
related
to
the
proposal.
F
You
know
we
are
we're
very
committed
if
you
go
back
to
page
24
of
our
initial
rfp
response,
less
intensive
air
activity,
plus
higher
quality
aircraft,
equals
less
noise
pollution.
You
know
our
you
know.
Our
intention
is
to
reduce
the
flight
school
activity.
That
was
part
of
our
response.
We've
already
engaged
in
conversations
with
the
current
tenant,
and
that
is
something
that
you
know
we
we're
committed
to
so.
H
F
To
be
partners
with
the
city
and
partners
with
the
neighborhood,
you
know
we'll
be
we'll
be
open
with
all
the
decision
making.
You
know
accountability.
We
think
the
airport
should
be
used
for
more
community
events
and
activities.
You
know,
that's
not
something.
You
know
there
used
to
be
more
of
a
sense
of
community
there.
You
know
going
back
10
or
12
years,
and
that
seems
to
be
going.
I
don't
know
how
much
coke
would
have
to
do
with
that
or
just
you
know,
different
ownership
fractions.
F
I
don't
know,
but
you
know,
you've
got
a
great
asset
there
and
you
know
we
want
to
build
a
state-of-the-art
facility.
That'll,
be
you
know,
an
asset
for
the
community
and
we
would
love
to
use
it
and
host
community
events
there.
As
far
as
engaging
in
dialogue
with
the
you
know
the
neighbors
in
the
neighborhoods
immediately
surrounding
the
airport,
I
mean
that's
something
that
you
know.
We
recognize
that's
part
of
our
responsibility
and
that's
why
we're
here
today
right.
A
I
noticed
in
your
presentation.
One
of
the
comments
was
to
work
with
the
current
tents.
A
And
then
the
I'll
read
a
page
later
we're
going
to
take
shade
hairs,
get
rid
of
them,
so
those
30
airplanes,
just
I
guess,
they're
just
supposed
to
go
elsewhere,
because
they're
low
value
tenants,
I'm
one
of
these
low
value.
Tenants.
To
be
honest.
I've
been
there
for
13
years,
I
pay
7
000
a
year
in
rent.
I
buy
a
couple
grand
thousand
dollars
worth
of
gas.
I.
I
A
I'm
not
what
you're
looking
for
and
and
I'll
admit.
I
don't
like
that.
I'll
be
perfectly
honest.
It's
a
pure
personal
bias
that
I'm
considered
a
low
value
tenant
and
I
think
I'm
a
pretty
good
tenant.
I
do
young
eagles
fights.
I
I
participate
in
angel
flights
like
you.
Do
I'm
pleased
with
that,
but
you
can't
say
you're
going
to
work
with
the
local
tenants
and
say
we
want
30
on
the
lead.
As
soon
as
we
build
a
new
hangar.
Well,.
F
I
don't
get
it
well.
First
of
all
the
you
know,
our
job
was
in
this
response
to
follow
what
was
in
the
master
plan.
You
guys
agree
with
that
right.
The
master
plan
was
the
guiding
principle.
The
shade
hangers
were
being
removed
in
the
master
plan.
It
was
not
our
idea.
It
was
part
of
the
alp,
the
only
thing
we
changed,
the
shade
hangers
in
the
aop.
They
were
proposed
to
convert
them
to
t
hangers
we're
also
going
to
build
more
t
hangers.
F
So
if
you
will
have
two
options,
you
can
move
to
the
t
hangers,
which
would
have
been
the
same
option
you
would
have
had
under
the
alp
or
you
can
move
to
a
to
a
pad
there's.
You
know
those
would
be
the
option.
Those
would
have
been
the
same.
Two
options
you
had
under
the
alp
we've
changed.
Nothing
as
it
relates
to
that.
The
only
thing
we've
changed
is
we'd
like
to
put
two
corporate
hangers
in
that
spot,
where
the
shade
hangers
are
still
care
about.
F
C
From
alp
that
was
our
guiding
document,
and
that
is
what
you
know
the
response
required
is
that
is
that
a
fair
response
I
would
have
to
say,
though,
as
far
as
the
alp
there's
multiple
options
thrown
in
there,
I
would
say
just
so
that
those
options
could
come
to
fruition
in
the
future
if
they
were
chosen.
However,
that
doesn't
mean
tearing
down
the
shade,
hangers
and
putting
even
t
hangers.
C
There
was
a
preferred
even
this
board
when
we
had
the
discussion
of
it,
and
the
preferred
option
was
to
build
a
hangar
where
there
currently
isn't
one
to
be
able
to
bring
in
more
income,
and
so
I
wonder
if
you
would
be
opposed
to
putting
that
corporate
hangar
somewhere
else
where
it
would
not
be
removing
current
tenants
and
would
be
able
to
be
an
additional
income
stream.
I.
F
Don't
know
that
the
I
mean
obviously
we're
proposing
both
and
we
wanted
to
add
additional
corporate
hangers
over
by
the
current
tva
hangar.
But
but
that's
not
the
way
we
read
the
alp,
I
mean
it
was.
There
were
a
number
of
areas
where
there
were
multiple
options.
The
fbo
and
its
size
was
one
or
the
three
options
spelled
out,
but
I
did
not
see
another
option
for
you
know
for
the
shade
hangers
I
mean
they're.
F
A
Repaired
or
replaced
prepared
also,
I
understand,
there's
already
funding
available
to
actually
rehab
those
shitty
hangers.
You
know
finn
hangers
give
an
opportunity
to
a
little
bit
lower
rent
to
somebody.
That's
like
me:
uber
welcome
to
participate,
that's
true
I'll,
be
honest,
my
biggest
heartburn
and
it's
not
heartburn
you're,
doing
good
you're
doing
your
very
best
effort
to
to
advance
the
city
of
claroread
airport.
I
I
don't
there's
no
personal
analysts
or
anything
like
that.
I
don't.
A
But
turning
this
into
clearwater
jetport,
you
know
we
we've
got
vie
but
yeah.
You
know
you
want
to
get
rid
of
all
the
training.
Where
are
the
part
135
pilots
going
to
come
from?
If
you
everybody
across
the
country,
let's
get
rid
of
all
the
training.
Well,
I'm
on
retired
airline
violence.
I
know
people
have
got
to
get
trained
and
that's
just.
F
That's
a
lot
from
a
big
city.
You
know
we
said
we
wanted
to
reduce
the
training.
We
didn't
say
we
wanted
to
replace
the
training
having
a
flight
school
as
part
of
this
has
been
it's
very
clear
that
we
expect
a
flight
school
to
be
part
of
our
plan
going
forward,
and
that
was
clear
throughout
our
response.
So
I
do
not
I
mean
eliminating.
It
is
that's
another.
You
know,
I
agree
with
you.
F
The
hell
counters
the
noise
in
the
last
12
months
I
mean
the
flight
training
activity
in
the
last
12
months
has
doubled
right.
So
it's
you
know,
that's
that's
not
a
guess.
That's
a
that's
a
fact.
So
it's
just
in
the
neighborhood
is
saying
it's
too
much.
It
needs
to
be
reduced,
so
it's
and
I
think
we
I
think
we
agree
with
that,
and
you
know
especially
and
we
called
it
out
multiple
times
in
response.
F
The
helicopter
tracking
training
is
is
particular
problems
not
just
for
the
neighborhood,
but
for
other
pilots
that
are
trying
to
utilize
the
the
air
park
and
land.
So
I
mean,
I
think,
we're
pretty
acutely
aware
of
what
the
issues
are,
and
you
know
categorizing
this
as
a
jet
park.
It's
not,
I
don't
think
it's
a
fair
characterization.
I
mean
we're
really
talking
about
this.
There
are
150
roughly
planes
based
there.
Our
goal
over
the
next
three
to
five
years
would
be
to
replace
ten
percent
of
them
with
turbo
props.
So
you
know
that's.
F
That
should
not
mean
that
means
that
90
of
the
tenants
will
still
be.
You
know
the
similar
piston
planes
to
what's
there
today.
So
categorizing,
it
is,
is
the
clearwater
jet
park.
I
just
don't
think
that's
a
fair
characterization
and
really
isn't
it's
not,
and
I
don't
know
how
that
could
be
interpreted.
C
From
what
we
you
know,
what
we
responded
to
the
rfp
with,
I
think,
there's
cons,
some
concern
that
you're
saying
that
there'd
be
limited
operations
right
now,
but
there's
really
no
cap
on
to
how
many
operations
you
could
do,
and
I
mean
you
did
say
that
it's
not
all
the
sudden
going
to
be
a
lot
of
jet
operations,
but
what's
to
say
that
as
your
business
grows
and
people
see
how
great
the
air
park
is,
that
that
starts
to
become
a
destination
for
these
turbo
props
and
small
jets
and
all
of
a
sudden
you're
having
something
that's
noisier,
making
more
operations-
just
you
know,
maybe
not
quite
as
much
as
the
flight
school,
but
those
operations
are
increasing
and
then
you
start
having
the
neighborhoods
complain
about
that
as
well.
F
Being
deployed-
and
you
know,
we've
all
read-
I
mean
the
hillsborough
county
aviation
authority
just
put
a
panel
together
to
study
study
what
they're
going
to
do
with
ev
talls.
You
know
so
they're
going
to
be
different
ways
and
different
modes
of
transportation.
When
you
start
thinking
about
the
term
of
this
lease
that
would
want
to
do
with
this
facility-
and
you
know,
I
think
you
know
we
should
be-
we
should
be
growing
in
that
direction.
I
mean
we
don't
have.
You
know
that
is.
It
is
not
our
intention,
but
we're
also
look.
F
We
don't
want
to
expand
the
hours
either
I
mean
we
were
the
only
response
that
didn't
propose.
You
know
turning
the
opening
the
airport
for
24
hours,
we
never.
We
said
we
want
to
maybe
extend
the
fbo
being
staffed
by
two
hours
from
nine
pm
to
11
pm,
we're
not
looking
to
change
anything
from
7
a.m,
to
11
p.m.
That's
what
the
city
wants.
That's
what
the
neighborhood
wants.
We
support
that
we
get
that
you
have
to.
If
you
want
faa
funding,
you
might
have
to
have
24-hour
operations.
F
We
weren't
proposing
that,
and
so
some
of
the
things
we're
proposing
are
a
lot
less
restrictive
than
you
know
they
were
in
the
you
know
the
competing
bits.
So
it's
I
mean
look
I
mean
they.
You
know,
we
can
tell
you
what
our
intentions
are.
You
know,
I
think
you
know
some
of
the
things
you're
concerned
about,
I
suspect,
can
be
addressed
in
the
least
negotiations.
F
F
Concerns
you
know,
would
address
them
in
the
lease,
but
you
know
we've
stated
clearly
that
our
intention
was
roughly
10
of
the
population
to
be
not
jets,
but
turbo
props.
You
know
to
have
them
based
there
that
will
help
with
fuel
cells
and
a
number
of
other
things
and
support
a
you
know
the
larger
community.
I
mean
we
think
electric
is
an
important
part
of
the
future.
F
You
know
we've
already
had
you
know,
there's
when
you
talk
about
flight
training,
you
know
the
piper
arrows,
there's
a
new
electric
power
plant
that
you
can
drop
in
those
and
that
you
know
that
stc
has
been
approved.
You
know
love
to
see
that
the
love
to
see
the
flight
school,
embrace
those
technologies
and
help
you
know,
help
move
things
forward.
F
You
know
from
that
perspective,
even
though
we
won't
sell
fuel,
so
maybe
we'll
sell
electricity
instead
yeah,
so
you
know,
but
it's
but
look
we
get
that
we
embrace
that
I
mean
this.
Is
you
know
this
is
about?
You
know?
We've
said
it
a
number
of
times
that
our
goal
is
to
prepare
the
airport
for
the
future
of
aviation
and
that
and
that's
changing
right
and
it's
rapidly
changing.
C
I
do
have
to
commend
you
on
the
wanting
to
look
into
the
battery-powered
aircrafts
and
you
know
providing
electronic
charging
for
cars.
I
do
think
that
also
fits
well
within
the
city's
green
plan
of
trying
to
look
at
different
ways
to
be
more
environmentally
friendly.
I
just
had
some
concerns
about
that,
and
maybe
this
is
just
more
future
vision
of
with
the
change
to
the
flight
school
of
one
to
change
to
all
serious
aircraft
because
they
have
a
parachute
and
that
you
know
equates
to
being
safer,
although
not
in
my
opinion
and
then
eventually.
C
C
So
I
wonder
if
this
is
something
that
you're
just
seeing
as
more
long
term
and
honestly
with
how
expensive
flight
training
is
right.
Now
I'm
still
up
and
coming
in
my
flight
training,
a
sears
would
be
unaffordable,
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
much
the
electric
airplanes
are.
But
I
am
a
piston
aircraft
pilot
and
I
probably
will
be
for
life
honestly,
because
I
don't
have
a
desire
to
go
to
commercial
airlines,
and
so
I
wonder
what
you
think
about
that.
Well,.
F
My
look,
my
conversations
I
mean
tampa
aviation
is
already
a
serious
training
center.
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
aware
of
that
yeah
they
have.
They
have
one
right,
yes
and
he's
interested
in
bringing
a
few
more
in
there.
But
it's
a
different.
You
know
candidly,
the
people,
you
know
how
expensive
flight
training
is.
The
profile
of
the
client
is
is
a
little
bit
different
and
you
know
I
think
the
the
thought
is
if
we
had
a
nicer
facility
that
would
be
able
to
attract
that
different
client.
F
You
know
that
I
mean
it's
probably
double
the
cost
to
go
through
your
ppl
in
a
serious
than
it
would
be
in
a
172,
so
that
somebody
is
going
to
have
a
little
bit
more
budget,
and
you
know
I
think
they,
you
know,
there's
a
successful
operation
at
pie.
That's
doing
that
today
and
I
think
that
would
be.
You
know.
I
think,
that's
you
know
we
talk
about.
You
know
I
think
the
the
flight
school
would
like
higher
value
clients.
From
that
perspective.
F
Also
and-
and
we've
never
said,
replace,
we've
said
augment
right,
so
the
you
know
the
172s
aren't
going
away.
Would
we
like
to
reduce
the
quantity
of
some
of
the
training?
As
I've
mentioned?
It's
the
quantity
of
fights
have
doubled
in
the
last
12
months.
You
know
there
has
to
there
has
to
be
a
balance
and-
and
it
appears
to
be
out
of
balance
today-
and
you
know
so.
You
know,
let's
work
toward.
C
Get
it
back
in
balance,
okay,
yeah.
I
do
agree
with
that.
I
did
see
that
tampa
bay
aviation
has
recently
expanded
over
to
pie
to
be
able
to
continue
expanding
their
school,
which
I
think
is
probably
a
smart
move
for
them,
because
I
do
think
they've
kind
of
reached
a
capacity
or
maybe
slightly
over
capacity
there
at
the
airpark.
But
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
more
affordable
options
for
someone
like
myself.
That's
a
single
parent
and
works
two
jobs.
I
can't
afford
serious
flying.
C
I
am
not
that
high
value
customer
that
they're
trying
to
to
bring
in
so
I
would
want
to
see
some
options
that
are
still
available
for
not
only
me
but
even
younger
people
that
maybe
don't
have
access
to
that
kind
of
you
know
money.
So
I'm
just
hoping,
like
those
kind
of
options,
wouldn't
be
going
away,
but
it
doesn't
sound
like
they
are
just
kind
of
meshing.
The
different
options
available.
F
In
and
out
of
there,
you
already
have
some
small
jets
coming
in
the
cirrus
vision.
Jet,
you
know,
is
a
is
a
single
engine.
You
know
serious
jet,
we
work
with
the
largest
company
called
varijet
they're,
the
largest
operator
of
those
in
an
air
taxi
type
service.
Those
do
fly
in
and
out
of
the
airport,
and
you
know
I
think,
those
that
that
would
continue
they're.
Not
they
don't
make
a
ton
of
noise,
not
a
single
engine.
I
mean
that's
the
profile
of
the
you
know
the
jet.
F
I
think
that
we
would
expect
to
see
in
there
nothing.
You
know
nothing
significantly
larger.
I
think
when
we
talked
to
the
committee
we
said:
maybe
you
could
maybe
fly
the
the
eclipse,
jet
or
or
maybe
a
mustang
in
there,
but
it's
not
I
mean
the
runway's.
Just
not
especially
the
space
displaced
threshold
just
doesn't
accommodate
the
light.
Jets
are
larger,
you'll
notice
when
we
reference
jets.
We
always
said
very
light
jets
and
we
were
specifically
referring
to
the
cirrus
vision
jet.
A
One
of
the
comments
I
had
written
down
was
attracting
tenants,
terminal
crops
and
very
likely,
quite
frankly,
they
can
come
now
because
they
don't
come
and
it's
not
just
the
terminal.
You
know,
frankly,
you
already
referenced
it.
It's
an
adequate
runway.
It's
not
a
wonderful
runway.
It's
4
100
feet
long.
It
has
displaced
restaurants,
you're,
never
going
to
have
approach
lights;
it
has
houses
and
trees
off
both
ends
of
the
runway.
A
I'll
stop
there
on
the
end
of
the
runway,
for
30
minutes
on
an
angel
flight
trying
to
get
an
ifr
departure
because
you
got
to
wait
till
pfi.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
that
a
corporate-owned
turboprop
he's
really
in
a
very
good
airport
to
operate,
because
you
can't
operate
24
hours
a
day.
You
can't
be
sure
you
can
arrive
back
here
at
night.
I
I
know
you
propose
an
lp
plus.
I
hope
you
get
it
if
you,
if
you're
the
the
the
operator.
A
A
F
I
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
what
you're
saying
I
mean.
I
think
the
instrument
approach
is
important.
We
talked
with
a
consultant.
We
named
him
in
the
rfp
yeah.
That's
all
they
do.
I
mean
that's
what
they
do
for
a
living
and
you
know
so
we
you
know
we
felt
that
they,
you
know
they
were
giving
us
good
advice,
and
you
know
what
their
you
know.
Their
recommendation
does
what
they
thought
was
possible.
F
Remember
what
they
thought
was
possible
is
just
l
people's
fee,
but
also
you
know,
500
foot
minimums
yeah,
550
foot
minimums
because
of
the
water
tower.
So
it's
I
think
it's
just
the
water
tower,
but
it's
you
know.
So
it's
probably
not
200
feet
like
the
ie,
but
it's
you
know,
but
it's
something.
A
Because,
as
you
as
you
know,
I
know
you're
a
pilot
and
it's
1600
hour
gas
and
you're
out,
I
ifr
you
can't
unless
you
find
a
hole
in
the
clouds
you
can't
min
vector
altitude,
16
rp,
you
can't
get
below
that.
You
have
an
instrument
approach
of
any
kind
you'd
be
able
to
get
through
them.
That
would
be
a
good
thing
all
right
and
I
talked
about
the
instrument-
departures
yeah
because
of
the
since
we
don't
have
a
tower
and
there's
certainly
no
proposal
to
have
a
tower.
You
can't
get
a
take
off
clearance.
A
K
I
have
questions
about
your
vision
for
the
frequency
of
flights.
Out
of
there,
you
in
the
handoff
you
gave
us
it
says
that
there
won't
be
a
sudden
influx
increase
in
jet
and
turbo
flights
in
and
out
of
the
airport.
So
when
does
the
increase
in
flights
meet
your
pro
forma
for
the
revenue
increase?
K
F
Most
of
our
a
lot
of
the
revenue
increase
in
our
pro
forma
is
less
about
fuel
sales
and
more
about.
F
Yeah,
so
the
but
a
lot
of
it,
it's
more
weighted
towards
the
office
space
that
would
be
in
the
fbo.
You
know
that's
obviously
valuable
real
estate,
some
of
the
additional
hangers,
but
nothing,
nothing
is
less
than
two
years
out,
though,.
K
Okay,
so
it's
matter
of
fact,
you
just
stated
that
you
know
a
turbo
crop
that
lands
or
takes
off
once
or
twice
a
day
versus
the
helicopters.
F
K
So
it's
you
know,
but
it's
going
to
take
three
400
gallons
before
it
leaves
so
it's.
K
K
Because
it
shows
that
it's
all
glass-
and
we
have
a
green
print
document
here
in
clearwater,
which
I'm
sure
you're
familiar
with,
that-
requires
that
30
percent
excuse
me
that
all
new
construction
permits
adhere
to
energy
efficient
codes
and
the
911
that
whole
thing
so
yeah.
F
We've
been
talking
about
lead
certification
as
well,
so
yeah
I
mean
we
are
thinking
about
those
things,
and
you
know
those
are
things
that
we
would.
You
know
I
think
mike
could
speak
to
that
better
than
I
could,
but
I
mean
that's
certainly
been
part
of
the
conversation,
but
this
is
that
the
drawing
you
saw
is
just.
K
A
concept
you
know
we
are
not
we're
not
far
enough
down
the
road,
so
the
last
thing
I
knew
I
have
a
lot
of
questions,
but
in
your
negotiations
with
the
city
should
this
move
forward,
you
intend
to
locate
your
corporate
headquarters
in
that
building,
that's
correct,
so
it
other
than
that.
K
F
I
mean
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
was
an
advantage
for
us.
If
I
have
a
business
that
can
pay,
you
know
I'm
going
to
use
a
round
number
100
000
a
year
in
rent.
That's
an
additional.
You
know
flow
that
the
city
is
getting
paid
off
of
and
everything
else
yeah
we
did
stop.
It
would
not
be
rent
free.
We
would
pay
market
rent
and
we'll
space
that
we're
using
yeah.
K
And
will
that
lease
be
net,
so
you'll
pay,
rent
common
area
maintenance
and
I.
F
Think
it's
premature
for
us
to
answer
that.
We're
not
that.
K
Far
well
looking
at
what
the
north
beach
garage
cost
the
city
in
the
agreement,
the
joint
partnership
we
had
there,
the
city
wound
up
losing
58
000
a
year
and
finally
sold
their
share
of
it,
and
a
lot
of
that
loss
was
because
of
the
operating
expenses,
because
the
city
was
paying
for
the
security
guards
24
hours
for
the
ticket
boost
for
the
elevator
fees.
For
I,
I've
signed
a
lot
of
leases
in
my
life
in.
K
L
Yeah
so
the
way
that
michael
connor,
three
one
one-
zero
bayshore
boulevard,
northeast
saint
petersburg,
cln
polar
so
to
go
back
to
the
least
question.
First,
we
haven't
decided
that
because
it
depends
how
many
tenants
go
in
the
building,
but
generally
yes,
it
would
be
a
triple
net
complex.
L
So
that's
yeah!
That's
the
answer
to
that
question
for
the
garage
when
we
designed
that
we
allocated
expenses
per
rapid.
So
roughly
it
was
450
to
500
per
space
per
year.
That's
what
the
city
paid
the
city
wanted
to
keep
the
rates
at
two
dollars
an
hour.
We
discussed
that
we
got
three
dollars
an
hour
to
increase
their
revenue.
The
city
also
wanted
to
subsidize
each
park,
so
40
bucks,
40
40
bucks
a
month
per
space
in
the
city's
area.
That's
the
decision
they
made.
So
they
took
that
revenue
off
their
side
of
the
deal.
L
K
That
was
their
choice.
Rates
were
one
problem,
but
the
bigger
problem
was
occupancy
because
in
the
first
year
floors
three
through
six,
that's
the
city,
we're
only
at
full
occupancy
nine
days
right
and
that's
about
over
two-thirds
of
the
revenues
for
those
three
floors
came
in
the
first
half
of
the
year,
which
included
spring
break.
K
It
was
264
thousand
and
the
total
was
350,
something
I
think
for
the
year.
So
there
were,
there
was
another
problem
there
on
the
cash
flow
right
and
the
revenue.
I
can
address
that
too.
So
there
was
illegal
street
parking
yeah
and
I
believe
that
your
statement
at
that
point
was
that
the
design
and
the
location
was
a
was
a
mistake.
K
L
Never
said
that,
okay,
I've
never
said
that
all
right
I
mean
that
location
has
been
in
the
city
plan
for
30
years.
That
was
the
reason
I
went
in
and
tried
to
buy
college
and
plaza
and
why
we
ended
up
flying
the
parking
lot.
That
location
has
been
identified
30
years
ago.
I
didn't
pick
that
location.
K
C
K
K
So
I
have
one
last
question:
I
represent
the
neighborhoods.
I've
lived
in
the
south
two
blocks
south
of
the
runway.
You
know
your
your
landing
zone
for
33
years
of
100
year
old
house
2007,
it
was
the
house
of
the
year.
We've
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
money
renovating
and
remodeling,
and
so
here's
the
point
economic
obsolescence
and
that's
going
to
happen
to
my
house,
which
I
have
obviously
been
there.
33
years
I
have
a
ton
of
equity
in
the
house
is
paid
for
it.
K
K
F
Honestly,
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
you
know
the
original
statement
I
had
about
safety
and
climb
rates
yeah
and
look
it's
just.
You
know,
I'm
familiar
that
when
you
take
off
to
the
north.
If
you
turn
to
zero
to
zero
on
the
head,
you
gotta
go
for
noise
abatement
procedures,
but
it
doesn't
work
in
reverse.
So
when
you
think
about
the
you
know
where
people
are
landing
when
the
runway's
landing
the
other
direction,
you
know
that's
virtually
the
same
course
they'd
be
taking.
F
You
know
the
other
way
right,
yeah
so,
and
if
you
have
a
you
know
the
planes
we're
talking
about.
Are
you
know,
turbine
aircraft?
They
decline
quickly,
they're
going
to
get
to
1600
feet
in
less
than
a
minute
and
at
which
point
they'll
be
heading
west
and
they'll
be
over
the
beach
in
no
time-
and
you
know
they
are,
as
we
said
earlier,
117
times
less
likely
for
that
engine
to
fail,
and
you
know,
and
the
quantity
of
those
flights
is
likely
you
know
measured
in.
F
I
don't
know
a
couple
dozen
a
week
as
opposed
to
the
you
know
the
hundreds
a
day
you
have
a
flight
school
activity.
I
don't
see
how
it
increases.
You
know
danger,
or
I
mean
I
believe
it
still
improves
safety,
not
the
other
way
around.
C
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
take
us
back
to
another
topic
of
the
new
fbo
and
what
tenants
you
could
have
in
there
so
from
looking
at
the
drawing,
and
even
though
it
is
tentative,
we
see
that
the
civil
air
patrol
facilities
are
now
displaced.
So
do
you
anticipate
being
able
to
have
room
for
them
or
a
meeting
space
within
that
fbo
and
I'm
not
sure
if
they
currently
pay
a
rent
or
if
they're
just
able
to
be
there?
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
something
similar
to
the
eaa,
they.
M
Have
land
lease
for
five
years
for
a
dollar,
so
those
buildings
are
theirs
and
they
just
lease
that
land
from
the
city.
C
So
I'm
not
sure
how
that
would
translate,
then
if
they
were
having
to
move
into
a
new
building,
then
because
now
they've
been
able
to
afford
this.
You
know
dollar
a
year,
but
if
we're
looking
at
something
that
you
know,
is
the
new
fbo
and
you're
looking
for
tenants
that
are
able
to
help
the
income
stream,
I
would
have
concern.
F
F
Evenings
from
5
30
to
8
30.,
there's
about
70
members
today,
not
all
70s
show
up
in
any
given
week.
So
you
know
we
told
them.
We
would
like
to
accommodate
them,
and
you
know
a
part
of
the
the
ultimate
design
will
have
some
common
area
spaces
that
they
would
be
able
to
utilize
for
the
activities
that
will
make
sure
that
they
still
have
space
on
a
drill
pad.
F
C
I
think
that's
great,
I'm
glad
to
hear
that,
and
my
other
thing
was
as
far
as
you
wanted
to
do
more
community
events
and
activities.
I
have
heard
from
the
local
community
the
same
thing
that
you
mentioned,
that
there
used
to
be
more
opportunities
for
them
to
be
involved,
and
I
did
see
within
your
fbo
proposal
that
you
might
have
like
a
little
snack
shop.
C
But
one
of
the
big
things
that
has
recurrently
been
brought
up
is
to
actually
have
at
least
a
small
restaurant,
and
especially
if
that
could
be
on
a
second
floor,
to
invite
the
public
is
something
that
they
can
come
to
on
a
regular
basis
and
be
able
to
watch.
You
know
the
aircraft
take
off
and
land,
maybe
even
like
a
little
playground
area
for
people
with
younger
kids,
and
even
previously
I
mean
looking
back
on
people
who
trained
a
long
time
ago.
C
L
For
exactly
that,
close
indoor,
outdoor
seating
and
new
commercial
kitchens
are
getting
away
from
gas
they're
all
going
electric,
so
it
takes
away
the
hoods
a
lot
of
the
cost,
a
lot
of
where
you
had
to
put
things
that's
kind
of
going
away,
so
we
have
definitely
envisioned
putting
in
a
kitchen
into
the
new
lecture.
What
about
putting
in
a
restaurant
that
would
actually
pay
you
rent.
That's
a
bad
conversation
there
as
well.
L
L
C
C
C
K
A
A
That's
still,
you
know.
A
You
know
four
million
dollars
from
the
city.
I
just
don't
see
that
happening.
I
mean
I,
I
I
confused
on
your
million
and
a
half
up
front.
Isn't
that
every
tenant
they
ran.
It
was.
F
The
first
of
all
the
one
of
the
big
changes
for
the
city
economically,
is
we're
going
to
be
absorbing
a
lot
of
costs
that
the
city
has
today
so
right
now,
every
dollar
of
rent
that
they
collect,
gets
paid
out
for
things,
the
overnight
security
being
one
of
the
largest
costs,
that's
100,
000.
That
goes
to
that
we're
absorbing
those
costs
so
but
we're
our
proposal
structured.
Where
we,
you
know
the
our
contribution
to
help
fund
the
fda
would
be
structured
as
prepaid
rent.
F
The
only
reason
we
said
it
is
capped
at
a
million
five
is.
We
were
answering
a
specific
question
about
the
initial
five-year
term.
So
if
we
have
to
commit
four
and
a
half
million
then
which
we're
prepared
to
do
you
know,
then
it
would
go
beyond
the
first
term,
so
the
it
was
confusing,
because
I
had
to
answer
the
question
specifically
the
way
it
was
being
asked
and
you're
right.
It
doesn't
read
well,
but
and
but
that's
why
we
try
to
put
the
other
commentary
in
the
follow-up
presentation
that
make
no
mistake.
F
A
I'm
not
an
airport
developer,
but
it's
not
taking
federal
funds.
I
mean,
let's
face
it,
that's
how
you
pay
for
airport
terminals,
and
things
like
that.
You
know
because,
like
I
said,
20
million
dollars,
22
million
worth
of
capital
improvements-
that's
still
four
million
dollars
from
the
from
the
from
somebody
locally.
That's
a
lot
of
money.
You
know
I
mean
we
can
spend
80
million
dollars
on
the
waterfront
here,
but
that
affects
the
entire
city.
You
know
the
airport
is
a
has
to
be
careful.
You
know
we
it's
our
little
little
thing
that.
F
Sort
of
money,
if
you
compare
it
to
the
current
state,
the
current
state
is
you're
collecting,
rent
but
you're,
using
100
of
that
rent
to
pay
those
expenses
that
we're
now
going
to
be
absorbing
right.
So
now
we're
absorbing
that
rent.
So
now
we're
giving
you
prepaid
rent
to
fund
that
portion
of
what
what
is
required
for
matching
dollars
for
f-stop.
So
there's
a
that's
a
net
benefit
to
the
city
right,
so
we're
providing
that
capital
on
back
to
the
city
for
the
city.
K
K
D
I
think
we
have
to
avoid
discussions
over
specifics
of
the
lease
at
this
juncture,
because
we
haven't
been
authorized
to
negotiate
those
components.
What
I
would
say
is
this
they're
absolutely
accurate.
When
I
crafted
the
rfp,
I
asked
the
respondents
to
absorb
the
expenses,
our
operating
expenses
that
we
currently
have
so
just
off
the
top
of
my
head
gross
revenues
about
300
grand
and
we
spend
about
290
yeah
in
operating,
give
or
take
in
a
good
year.
We
may
be
70
grand
to
the
good,
so
that's
the
economics
of
it.
D
D
In
the
tank,
historically,
it's
been
the
city's
position
not
to
engage
with
the
faa
for
the
fear
of
of
having
some
kind
of
strings
attached
where
they
have
to
have
a
24-hour
operation,
which
would
which
would
certainly
be
in
conflict
with
the
neighborhoods
right.
So
I
think
historically,
they've
avoided
it.
D
Is
there
an
opportunity
for
us
to
explore
that
going
forward
absolutely,
but
you
have
to
be
really
certain
that
the
strings
attached
or
any
kind
of
of
a
requirement
of
the
city
wouldn't
create
another
problem
for
us,
I'm
only
speaking
as
the
new
guy
here
five
months
in
historically.
I
believe
that
to
have
been
the
case
and
that's
the
rationale
for
not
pursuing
faa
grandfather.
As
long
as.
A
I
A
C
Well
and
erica,
while
you're
up
here,
I
want
to
know
if
you
can
just
talk
to
a
little
bit
about
when
people
see
85
million
dollars
spent
on
the
park
right
here.
But
we
don't
have
any
money
for
the
air
park.
If
you
can
discuss
the
council's
thoughts
on
why
we
can't
get
that
kind
of
money
for
the
air
park
because
it
is
supposed
to
be
self-sufficient.
K
D
So
I'm
going
to
avoid
putting
myself
in
a
trap
here,
but
I
will,
I
will
speak
generally.
We
are
an
enterprise
fund.
Yes,
as
I
explained
a
little
bit
earlier,
we're
expected
to
cover
our
operating
costs
and-
and
you
know,
some
some
capital
investment
through
the
revenues
generated
by
this
lease
agreement.
D
So
you
know,
I
think,
that's
sort
of
the
history
of
why
you
know
we
have
struggled
in
this
capacity,
but
the
expectation
is
that
we
pay
our
own
freight.
We
we
keep
these
operations
in
the
black
and
that
leaves
us
little
room
for
significant
capital
projects,
because
we
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
to
access
those
general
fund
dollars.
I
hate
to
use
a
cliche
because
I
don't
care
for
it
a
lot,
but
it's
it's
a
different.
It's
a
different
funding
source
and
it's
taxpayer
money
for
those
projects,
hopefully
that
that
helps.
C
Yeah-
and
I
wanted
to
bring
this
up
just
because
people
are
scared
of
going
the
faa
path
because
of
the
possible.
You
know
strings
attached
to
that,
whether
they're,
true
or
not.
We're
not
sure,
but
this
seems
like
it
could
also
be
another
path
that
could
be
explored
with
the
city
council
to
see
if
they
would
want
to
change
the
airpark
to
something
that
could
use
general
funds
which
would
come
from
the
neighborhood
taxpayers.
If
they're
wanting
to
see
some
improvements
done
there,
I'm
not
quite
sure
the
whole
possibility.
D
Sure
I
think
the
way
you
have
to
look
at
it
is
a
small
user
group
versus
community
as
a
whole,
and
I
think
that's
where,
if
you
have
to
look
at
it,
is
that
this
user
group
is
self-funding
and
funds
that
that
their
part
versus
asking
the
community
as
a
whole
to
use
taxpayer
money
to.
C
D
Your
authority
to
make
those
types
of
asks
or
inquiries
to
counsel.
So
if
you've
developed
a
consensus,
you
know,
I
would
say,
outside
the
scope
of
this
conversation,
but
if
we
had
another
meeting
and
had
that
conversation-
and
that
was
something
you
wanted,
it
was
consensus
driven
that
wanted
to
to
ask
council
about.
Certainly
you
have
that
ability.
C
Yeah-
and
I
only
say
that,
because
yeah
you
know
they
fly,
usa
is
putting
a
lot
of
money
up,
but
when
the
total
cost
of
the
master
plan
is
22
million
dollars,
how
long
is
it
going
to
take
until
we
would
get
to
that
point
of
being
able
to
actually
make?
Those
updates
still
seems
like
quite
a
while
out.
D
K
K
A
F
That
absolutely
I
mean
kindly
the
ea
hanger
that
you're
in
if
it's
the
one
that's
next
to
the
fender
aviation,
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
some
safety
concerns
with
that
there's
a
tree
sitting
on
top
of
it.
But
it's
you
know
so
there's
some
stuff
that
needs
to
be
done
there
from
a
safety
perspective,
but
I
mean
I'm
hoping
there's
no
structural
damage
to
that,
but
it's
but
yeah
and
we'll
continue
to
support
you
guys
and
we've.
A
Been
doing
you
know,
eagle
flights
three
times
a
year,
we're
gonna
actually
increase
the
number
make
them
smaller
quicker.
We
have
one
next
saturday
a
week
from
saturday.
You
know
it's
not
a
big
impact
on
me.
I
don't
think
it
would
be
a
big
impact,
but
I.
C
F
I
can't
speak
to
the
timepiece,
because
until
we
get
into
negotiation
with
the
city
and
understand
the
constraints
against
f
dot,
I
I
just
I
you
know,
there's
there's
too
much.
We
don't
know
as
I
stand
here
today,
but
or
I
can
tell
you
that
it
would
be
a
confident
saying
as
soon
as
we
possibly
can.
You
know
the
the
committee
asked
us.
F
What
were
the
three
projects
that
we'd
prioritize
and
our
answer
was
you
know
the
the
parking
lot,
the
the
fbo
and
because
of
the
feedback
we
heard
from
here
from
the
videos
we
watched
the
previous
meetings.
If
you
know
we
set
the
shade
hangers.
For
that
reason,
so
you
know,
can
we
change
the
order?
I
mean.
I
think
we
can
certainly
look
into
that,
but
you
know
that
was.
That
was
our
answer
before
and
you
know
the
first
feedback.
I
got
today
that
that's
not
a
popular
decision.
C
Oh
yeah
and
I'm
not
sure
that
it
was
totally
clear
in
the
master
plan
about
not
wanting
to
tear
down
the
shade
hangers,
but
I
know
that's
what
got
me
involved
in
this
board
in
the
beginning.
As
someone
that's
wanting
a
cheaper
option
at
the
airpark,
I
think
the
grass
tie-downs
and
the
shade
hangers
need
to
stay,
and
you
know
as
many
as
that.
There.
F
C
You
know
pavement
tie-downs,
so
instead
of
just
replacing
current
tie-downs
with
something
else
like
actually
generating
more
income
by
putting
a
building
in
a
new
area.
F
The
you
know
the
plan
had
additional
tea
hangers
along
the
fence
line
on
hercules
on
the
three
four
end
and
then
another
row
next
to
the
you
know,
next
to
the
current
entrance-
and
you
know
those
are
those.
Are
there
too.
C
Currently
that
may
be
different
with
you
know
if
you
were
to
become
the
new
lessee,
but
we
also
still
think
that
there's
opportunities
to
even
put
that
corporate
hangar
in
another
area
where
there
is
currently
not
any
use
of
it
right
now,
except
for
some
grass
space.
But
I
think
that
answered
all
the
questions.
I
had
gentlemen,
just.
K
F
F
We
again,
we
tried
to
keep
our
response
to
the
line
with
the
alp.
C
I
N
C
This
in
there
right
now
that
we
are
going
to
be
hearing
public
comment
on
the
discussion
that
you
just
heard
right
now.
Each
person
that
would
like
to
speak
will
get
three
minutes.
You
come
up
here
to
the
podium,
make
sure
you
state
your
name
and
they
need
need
address
too
okay
name
and
address
and
you'll
your
little
timer
lights
will
be
up
there
at
the
top.
So
you'll
see
as
you're
getting
close
to
that
red,
and
we
just
ask
everybody.
C
O
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
melissa:
stamos
s-t-a-m-o-s
I
live
at
1865
gilbert
street.
I
am
directly
west
of
the
airport,
I'm
here
to
speak
to
a
different
issue
that
I
don't
feel
was
really
covered
a
lot.
O
I
suffer
a
little
bit
of
ptsd,
post-traumatic
stress,
disorder
or
pre-traumatic
stress,
as
were
we,
as
most
people
know,
had
quite
the
fight
over
the
landings.
It
was
beat
down
in
a
referendum,
but
that
will
be
coming
up
again
in
eight
years.
Eight
years
goes
quickly
with
a
new
tenant
at
the
airport
with
ambitious
goals.
My
concern
is:
what
is
the
future
of
that
land
at
large?
O
I
watched
the
presentation
mr
connor
mentioned
multiple
times
that
they
self-manage
500
000
square
feet:
retail
restaurant
they're,
looking
towards
workforce
housing
world
corporate
headquarters.
For
this
I
can't
help
but
think
they
have
an
eye
to
the
future,
to
develop
that
entire
area
and
as
a
resident
we
want
to
keep
the
green
space.
We
want
to
keep
the
communal
nature
of
the
neighborhood.
O
I
think
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
people
here
that
speak
to
safety,
which
is
the
number
one
concern,
but
I'm
concerned
about
the
future
development
of
that
neighborhood
and
what
that
looks
like
I
just
want.
It
noted
that
the
voters
did
vote
that
down.
We
will
continue
to
fight
that,
so
that
is
my
comment.
Thank
you.
J
J
The
eaa
and
all
that
that's
all
community
within
the
air
park
itself
and
the
there's
no
shortage
of
that
community.
You
know
I
ran
a
hangar.
There.
Bart
can
probably
tell
you
when
I
moved
there.
It
took
me
two
years
to
get
a
hand
with
me.
The
waiting
list
was
that
long,
there's,
no
shortage
for
pilots
with
airplanes
that
want
to
be
at
the
airport
so
and
what
you're
doing
in
this
community
excuse
me
is
you're
displacing
the
people
that
are
already
there.
J
We
did
this
anywhere
else
in
any
other
part
of
the
city,
go
in
and
say
we're
going
to
displace
you
to
put
in
higher
value
people.
You
know
how
would
they
respond
to
that?
You
know
that's
kind
of
a
airport
gentrification.
I
guess
you
would
say
to
come
in
and
put
in
more
higher
value,
customers
and
displace
the
people
and
remind
you
that
the
people
at
the
airport
were
also
citizens
of
this
community,
so
you're
displacing
citizens
for
higher
value
citizens.
J
J
J
P
Probably
good
afternoon,
beth
davis
1962
harding
plaza
for
the
water
davis
davis.
Yes,
so
thank
you
for
all
your
work.
Obviously
we
need
the
money.
The
airport
needs
to
be
safer
and
fixed,
and
I'm
about
the
money
in
the
bottom
line.
So
my
concern
is
this:
there's
a
private,
you
know
22
and
a
half
million
dollars
the
first
five
years.
We
get
one
and
a
half
million
and
it
is
towards
rent
and
somebody.
I
realize
it's
not
the
general
fund,
but
it
still
feels
like
it's
going
to
be.
P
Taxpayer
money
and
the
city
of
clearwater
is
very
good
at
moving
money
around
we're
getting
ready
to
have
october
hearings
about
shifting
money
from
rent
relief
and
housing
issues
that
should
have
been
funded
to
another
fund,
and
so
somebody
and
it's
probably
the
city
of
clearwater.
It
has
to
be
that's
going
to
pay
21
million
dollars
in
the
first
five
years,
because
we're
only
going
to
get
a
million
and
a
half
the
first
five
years,
which
is
wonderful.
Thank
you
for
funding
it,
but
21
million
dollars
is
going
to
come
out
of
some
clearwater
budget.
B
I
am
a
captain
for
american
airlines
on
the
787.
I
haven't
in
excess
of
30
000
hours
upon
my
entire
life.
I'm
active
in
civil
aviation,
along
with
airline
aviation.
B
I
guess
I
you
know
three
minutes.
I
could
probably
talk
for
hours
about
different
opinions.
I
just
recently
heard
about
this,
so
I'm
trying
to
catch
up
and
I've
learned
a
little
bit
from
what
they
said
there.
My
my
basic
thoughts
are
first
off.
I
think
the
city
needs
to
decide
if
they
had
a
mission
statement
for
this
airport.
What
would
it
be?
B
B
If
it
is
a
community
service
for
the
for
the
you
know
the
citizens
of
the
of
the
area,
then
I'd
say
we
need
to
try
to
keep
things
status
quo.
As
we
can
not
saying
there
couldn't
be
some
improvements,
but
there
is
nowhere
to
park
little
airplanes
in
this
county
anymore,
albert
whitted's.
Talking
seriously,
I
guess
you
guys
know
about
getting
rid
of
their
airport
when
those
air,
if
that
were
to
happen,
then
we're
really
going
to
be
in
a
crisis
for
little
airplanes.
B
The
presenters
there
talked
about
the
safety
issues
of
flying
jets
in
and
out
of
an
airport
like
this,
I
say
basically
what
they're
presenting
is
trying
to
put
a
square
peg
in
a
round
hole.
It's
all
great.
In
theory,
the
airport
itself
simply
isn't
suited
for
that
kind
of
work,
regular,
the
kind
of
money
that
I'm
hearing-
and
this
is
just
me
shooting
from
the
hip
here-
because
I've
just
heard
their
proposals.
Now
the
kind
of
money
they're
proposing
is
going
to
require
significantly
more
flying
than
what
I'm
hearing
it.
B
They've
openly
admitted
that
they're
going
to
be
less
frequency
frequency
from
guys
like
me
and
other
people
that
fly
little
airplanes
there
for
people
that
are
better
or
more
affluent
like
to
fly
cirrus
like
you've
brought
up.
Most
people
can't
afford
to
fly
even
the
smaller
planes
to
learn
how
to
fly,
let
alone
to
have
to
go
right
into
flying
a
nine
hundred
thousand
dollar
airplane
to
learn
how
to
fly
versus
my
hundred
thousand
dollar
cessna
152
or
50
000.
B
B
R
I
was
on
the
board
for
quite
a
while
and
heard
about
this
proposal,
and
first
thing,
I'm
gonna
do
is
comment
on
some
of
the
statements
made
by
the
second
speaker
promoting
the
safety
of
turbine
aircraft
because
of
the
engines,
and
I
would
agree
with
that-
I
don't
think
the
safety
issue
at
this
small
airport
is
engine
failure,
but
the
increased
risk
of
high-speed
aircraft
intermingling
with
smaller
slower
aircraft
and
increasing
the
chances
of
a
mid-air
collision.
R
In
the
last
couple
weeks,
there
was
a
mid-air
collision
at
an
uncontrolled
airport,
watsonville
california,
whereas
cessna
152
was
turning
base
to
final
in
the
twins
nest,
which
is,
I
don't
know
what,
with
that
speed,
would
be
60
knots,
maybe
and
a
twin
cessna,
the
twin
engine
prop
coming
in
at
higher
speed
and
they
collided
right
there.
In
fact,
most
of
the
collisions
had
uncontrolled
mid-air
collisions
happened
below
a
thousand
feet
so,
and
the
previous
speaker
spoke
about
approach,
noise
between
turbine
aircraft
and
small
planes
and
that's
a
big
deal.
R
If
you've
ever
been
in
an
airport
nearly
approaching
the
runway,
how
loud
it
is,
and
I'm
a
retired
captain
with
nutshells,
so
I
flew
jets
periodically
in
and
out
of
uncontrolled
airports
and
some
of
them.
I
gotta
say
that
was
the
most
stressful
approach
in
landing
or
taking
off
later
it
was
at
those
airports
because
there's
no
control
tower,
it's
seeing
a
void.
R
I
could
be
doing
approaching
the
downwind
at
160
knots
following
your
craft
that
are
doing
maybe
70
knots.
So
it's
really
difficult.
It's
high
stress
always
with
a
two
pilot
crew
and
we'd
get
on
the
ground
we
would
be
just
our
heart
rates
are
up
from
dealing
with
all
that
traffic
and
the
same
thing
taken
off.
So
I'm
gonna
I'll
just
finish
up
saying
that
all
this
sounds
great.
R
I
mean
the
the
proposal,
the
drawings
of
the
new
buildings,
and
all
that
looks
great,
but
I
think
you
know
there's
this
theory
of
unintended
consequences
and
smartest
people
in
the
world
can't
figure
them
all
out
and
we're
gonna
we'll.
If
this
continues-
and
this
goes
on,
I
think
we're
gonna
see
some
of
those
unattended
consequences
right
on
top.
S
My
name
is
nicholas,
barrows
spelled
b-a-r-r-o-w-s.
I
live
at
3-4-1-7
clarine
way,
east
in
dunedin
florida.
S
S
My
history
with
the
air
park
goes
back
to
2005
when
they
hired
me
on
as
the
chief
instructor
and
I've
been
flying
out
of
there
ever
since
I
currently
fly
a
cirrus,
that's
based
out
of
there
and
I
fly
the
414
in
there
regularly,
because
our
maintenance
is
done
there
for
the
entire
time
that
I've
been
a
part
of
that
air
park
back
then
there's
I
was
there
with
two
different
owners
of
the
flight
school.
S
The
problem
that
I
always
saw
was
no
one
ever
wanted
to
put
any
money
back
into
it
ever
the
owners
that
were
there,
never
reinvested
their
money,
and
it
has
been
just
a
gradual
decrease
in
the
way
that
it
used
to
feel
it
used
to
have
that
community
feel
it
used
to
be
different.
We
used
to
have
the
events
there
there,
the
table
of
knowledge
now,
given
a
lot
of
the
table
of
knowledge,
has
passed
on,
but
that
was
something
that
I
loved
back.
S
When
I
was
at
the
airpark
regularly,
you
know
listen
to
the
guys,
talk
the
guys
that
were
at
that
point,
you
know
three
times
my
age,
half
the
stuff
they
talked
about
was
nonsense,
but
I
loved
listening
to
it.
You
know,
and
to
this
day
I
I
think
a
couple
people
hang
out
there
that
needs
to
come
back.
The
community
element
is
just
not
there
if
you
drive
around
if
you
take
an
uber,
and
I
do
back
and
forth
between
the
airports
a
lot.
S
If
I
have
to
move
my
airplane
for
maintenance,
I'm
going
to
the
clearwater
airpark
you're,
going
where
these
are
people
that
drive
around
for
a
living
they've.
Never
they
don't
even
know
this
place
exists,
it's
not
even
on
their
radar
that
there's
a
little
airport
there.
I
think
that
needs
to
change,
and
I
think
coming
in
here
having
a
nice
fbo,
maybe
putting
in
a
restaurant
and
I'm
not
saying
we're
trying
to
attract
a
bunch
of
turbo
props
and
jets.
S
The
safety
thing
has
been
brought
up
and
I'm
sorry
I
fly
into
jacksonville
craig
all
the
time.
That's
a
4
000
foot
runway.
We
fly
in
there
with
the
jets
and
it's
no
problem,
I'm
not
saying
I
want
to
bring
my
jets
into
the
airport,
but
the
safety
thing
is:
it's
been
kind
of
blown
out
of
proportion.
Ocean
reef
is
in
key
largo,
it's
a
4300
foot
runway,
they
land
falcon
900s
in
there.
So
it's
the
safety
issue
is,
is
been
blown
out
of
proportion,
turbo,
props
and
jets
can
get
in
there.
S
It's
they're
not
going
to.
You,
might
see
some
more
king
air
traffic.
I
think
that's
a
good
thing.
I
really
do
you're
bringing
in
a
different
clientele
and
you're
not
trying
to
displace
the
other
people
that
are
there.
You're.
Just
bringing
more
people
to
become
aware
of
the
air
park
know
that
it
exists,
bring
that
family
element.
I've
got
four
kids,
they
love
that
place.
They.
I
remember
them
hanging.
Under
the
oak
tree,
we
had
a
birthday
party
there,
one
time
under
the
tree.
S
That
stuff
needs
to
come
back
right
now.
The
air
park
just
doesn't
exist
and
I
think,
bringing
in
new
fresh
blood
and
I've
known
barry
for
a
long
time.
I've
known
mike
for
a
long
time,
barry's
a
pilot.
He
understands
aviation.
He
loves
aviation
trust
me
when
I
say
that,
just
as
much
as
I
do
so,
bringing
in
fresh
blood
to
the
airport
to
try
and
get
things
updated,
newer,
more
modern,
that's
not
a
bad
thing.
In
my
opinion.
Thank
you.
N
N
N
Company
fbo
general
aviation
center.
They
don't
mention
anything
about
fuel
capability,
so
I
was
wondering
if
this
is
the
the
person
who's
going
to
be
handling
day-to-day
fuel
services
because
they
mentioned
about
installing
a
self-serve
facility.
He
was
a
part.
E
T
I'm
on
my
lunch
break
at
work
so
to
come
here.
I
usually
have
the
meetings
at
three
o'clock
in
the
afternoon,
so
I
cannot
attend,
but
I
do
watch
them
online
and
let
me
just
maybe
dispel
some
of
the
rumors
about
me
that
I
think
my
name
probably
has
been
floated
around.
T
I'm
not
the
only
one
that
has
a
problem
with
the
intensity
at
the
air
park.
Right
now
I
have
an
email
and
a
contact
list
of
about
10
to
15
residents,
north
of
the
airpark
that
we
do
communicate
last
year.
Mr
king
was
kind
enough
to
meet
with
me
and
a
couple
of
my
other
neighbors
at
the
time
it
was
your
predecessor
was
there
also,
and
they
agreed
to
hear
our
complaints,
especially
about
the
helicopter
traffic.
T
T
So
my
point
is,
I
really
didn't
need
to
get
involved,
but
when
you're
sitting
in
your
house-
and
I
work
from
home,
I've
worked
from
home
for
10
years
you're
sitting
in
your
house,
and
you
have
to
put
people
on
a
conference
call
on
you
because
the
helicopter's
going
overhead
every
couple
minutes.
That's
a
problem.
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
people
in
business.
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
people
making
money,
but
when
their
business
starts
affecting
my
business,
then
I
have
a
problem.
T
I
didn't
even
know
there
was
a
flexible
honestly
until
about
five
years
ago.
So
whatever
happened
about
five
years
ago,
really
piqued
my
inquiries,
something
changed
whatever
it
was
can
be
corrected.
I
T
Neighbors
regarding
decimal
level
readings,
I
also
have
a
decibel
meter
and
I've
had
my
lawn
mower
running
and
the
helicopter
goes
overhead
and
it
increases
about
10
or
15
decibels.
So
imagine
a
lawnmower
going
over
your
house
every
five
minutes
four
hours
on
end.
This
is
one
of
them,
so
I
just
want
everybody
to
know
that.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
U
David
king
2270,
citrus
cork
clearwater
also
the
owner
and
operator
of
colorado
airport
for
the
last
22
years.
First
off,
congratulations
to
you
guys.
You
asked
a
lot
of
good
questions
today.
I
was
really
proud
of
you.
Actually,
I
didn't
think
you
had
enough
information
to
ask
some
of
the
questions
you
asked,
but
you
did
a
good
job
on
that
I'd
like
to
say,
I
am
not
opposed
to
the
changes.
If
that's
the
direction
the
city
wants
to
go.
I
have
said
similar
things
for
22
years.
U
If
you
want
to
make
more
money,
you
got
to
bring
in
different
planes
or
you
got
it.
You
got
to
do
something
different
than
what
we
have
and
I've
always
been
told.
That's
the
way
that
the
city
wanted
to
run
it.
So
that's
the
way
we've
kept
it.
I'm
also
the
person
that's
guilty
of
taking
the
airport
off
the
tax
rolls
and
only
paying
them.
5.3
million
dollars
in
the
last
20
years,
not.
U
U
List
for
22
years
for
people
to
get
there,
so
the
people
that
may
be
displaced
by
changing
out
the
shade
hangers
versus
rehabbing
them
they
are
going
to
have
nowhere
to
go
period.
I've
been
here
22
years
guys.
I
have
a
list,
that's
on
my
desk.
We've
had
it
for
22
years.
It
has
never
gone
away.
So
I'm
not
saying
that's
the
you
know
the
biggest
thing
in
the
world,
I'm
sure
they'll
find
somewhere
to
go,
but
it
won't
be
around
here.
U
I
understand
with
what
nick
is
saying:
turtle
props
come
and
go
all
over
the
country
all
the
time.
The
big
difference
we
have
here
is:
we
are
slap
dab
in
the
middle
of
the
neighborhood
and
if
we
just
have,
I.
U
Be
the
gloom
and
doom
guy
because
I
was
told
last
week,
I'm
blooming
doom,
I'm
actually
a
realist.
You
know
if
our
departures
you
brought
up
is
a
big
thing.
I
talked
to
st
pete
tower.
I
also
talked
to
the
previous
saint
pete
tower
manager.
That
was
there
20
years.
When
they
leave
the
airport,
they
are
going
to
get
a
clearance.
It
is
going
to
be
270.
U
U
My
concern
is:
accelerate.
Stop
distance
on
these
small
airplanes.
Barbie,
and
I
I
mean
I
have
a
commercial
multi-engine
instrument,
airplane
helicopter.
My
partner
barb
has
atps.
I
mean
we
fly
all
these
things.
There's
a
thing
called:
accelerate,
stop
distance,
there's
a
balanced
field
length.
We
have
enough
for
the
planes
to
come
and
go
what
I'm
telling
you
is.
It
is
right
on
the
edge
and
there's
the
thing
that
paul
actually
previous
guy
here
pointed
out
thing
called
a
startle
factor.
U
U
C
I'm
gonna
say
you
that
was
gonna
be
the
next
on
the
list,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
didn't
have
any
more
public
commenters
and
then
you
guys
will
have
some
time
to
come
up
and
kind
of
respond
to
some
of
these
comments
that
you've
heard
so
do
we
have
any
more
public
that
would
like
to
provide
a
comment
before
we
hear
a
response.
C
G
Well
in
the
past
two
and
a
half
years,
it's
all
related
to
code,
the
table
of
knowledge
that
nick
bears
referred
to
yeah
those
guys
used
to
come
in
all
the
time
and
hang
out
at
the
tables
about
at
the
table
about
90
percent
of
them
have
passed
away
and
the
rest
of
them
stayed
away
because
of
kobat
they've
recently
started
coming
back.
They
have
it
coming
on
wednesdays.
G
So
it's
not
anything.
We
did.
It's
what's
happened
in
the
united
states
and
you
know
people
are
welcome
there.
We
have
people
that
come
and
sit
under
the
tree,
people
that
bring
their
children
and
have
lunch,
so
it
kind
of
makes
me
feel
bad
that
people
are
thinking
it's
something
we've
caused.
We
haven't
caused
this
everybody's
welcome,
they're
just
staying
away
and
it's
not
because
we
have
have
a
quad
white
or
whatever
you
guys
call
it.
G
Q
My
name
is
ronald
striker,
2087
san
marino
way,
north
clearwater.
Q
Q
I
have
a
very,
very
specialized
shop,
I'm
very
particular
in
my
work,
and
I
tell
my
customers
when
I'm
done
with
your
engine
and
I'm
happy.
I
know
you'll
be
happy
because
I
see
what
goes
on
out
there
with
a
lot
of
mechanics
over
the
years
of
what
they
do
to
these
aircraft
engines
and
it's
getting
getting
to
the
point
where
it's
getting
a
little
scary.
Q
So,
but
here
at
clearwater
airport,
I
try
to
work
with
the
community
there.
As
much
as
I
can.
I
got
my
license
there
in
1976
working
with
barbara
and
david
at
the
air
park.
I'm
not
saying
we've
had
the
best
of
times
there
like
barbara
just
said.
The
covet
has
really
hurt
us
all
bad
and
it's
still
working
on
everybody,
but
as
barbara's
as
she
said.
I
think
it's
coming
back
because
I'm
there
almost
every
day,
my
shop
is
two
blocks
from
the
airport.
Q
Q
Q
But
if
we
get
too
much
more
traffic
in
there
with
jets
and
stuff
and
turbo
crops,
we're
gonna
have
some
real
big
problems.
I
was
on
the
airport
authority
quite
a
few
years
ago,
back
maybe
in
the
80s
or
90s
back
where
the
city
hall
is,
and
we
went
over
a
lot
of
details
about
what
we're
going
to
do
with
the
airport
and
a
lot
of
it
never
really
happened
like
restaurant
like
you're
talking
about,
I
was
in
a
hundred
percent
favor
for
that,
because
that
really
draws
people.
Q
We
have
local
restaurants
around
us,
but
they're
they're
they're,
not
at
the
airport.
I
remember
I
used
to
fly
to
lakeland
airport
a
lot
and
go
up
into
the
restaurant
up
there.
I
knew
tony,
the
guy
that
owned
it
and
it
was
great
to
sit
up
there
and
watch
planes
fly
in
and
out.
We
need
to
have
that.
I
think
the
draw
would
help
us
tremendously
at
the
airport
and
I
think
if
we
could
have
some
more
things
happen
at
the
airport.
Q
That
would
draw
more
people
there,
and
I
think
it's
going
to
happen
here
in
the
near
future,
because
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
interest.
I
know
a
lot
of
people
around
I've
been
here
a
long
time
and
they
keep
asking
me:
what
are
they
going
to
do
with
the
airport?
What
are
they
going
to
do
with
the
airport
we're
trying
to
do
as
best
we
can,
but
I'm
not
going
to
go
on
and
on
about
all
of
it.
I
think
everybody
has
probably
said
their
piece
so.
E
E
The
rfp
process,
as
mr
gandhi
explained,
is
not
by
nature
because
it's
supposed
to
be
individualized
and
secretive
so
that
there's
no
competitive
advantages,
but
what
you've
heard
from
mr
shevlin
is
number
one.
He's
watched
your
meetings
as
part
of
his
rfp
response
to
formulate
what
guidance
and
feedback
this
board
has
given
over
the
years
number
two
it's
tailored
to
the
alp
and
to
realizing
the
alp.
E
I
want
to
be
very
clear.
Our
proposal
is
that
the
city
will
contribute
nothing
to
the
improvements
other
than
perhaps
some
small
penny
for
pinellas
dollars
that
they've
already
allocated,
but
the
money
that's
going
to
be
provided
by
fly
usa
and
the
money
that's
going
to
be
provided
by
fdot
will
pay
for
the
improvements,
we're
the
only
plan
that
has
a
commitment,
a
financial
commitment
to
realize
the
improvements.
Now
I
understand
the
improvements
are
going
to
be
phased
they're
going
to
happen
over
a
period
of
years.
E
It's
not
going
to
happen
overnight,
but
this
is
the
only
plan
that
gets
there.
I
routinely
advise
clients
in
rfp
responses.
It
is
not
usual
for
rfp
scores
to
be
so
far
apart.
In
this
case,
fly
usa
scored
83.6
out
of
a
total
100
points
from
five
separate
independent
city
staff
reviewers,
and
the
next
closest
competitor
scored
64.4
points
out
of
100..
Typically,
when
you
see
like
venice
group
versus
ruth
eckerhall
for
the
amphitheater,
it's
a
couple
points
apart.
E
That
shows
you.
How
committed
and
responsive
fly
usa
was
to
providing
the
city
with
the
ability
to
fulfill
its
vision
and
to
fulfill
your
vision
through
the
the
specific
rfp
request
to
increase
safety,
reduce
noise,
increase
efficiency,
reduce
intensity
and
also
fulfill
the
alp,
the
landings
we
promise
you
have
nothing
to
do
with
this.
From
our
end,
there's
no
interest
in
developing
landings.
That
was
specifically
asked
by
denise
anderson
and
we
said
no,
absolutely
not
there's
no
interest
in
developing
the
landings
it's
totally
separate,
but
I
just
wanted
to
address
that.
E
E
Whatsoever-
and
we
put
that
on
the
record
other
than
that
I
wanted
to
just
say
again-
you
could
tell
mr
shevlin
is
very
very
educated
on
your
board
on
the
process
and
on
the
vision,
there's
a
balance.
This
is
not
about
displacing
anyone.
This
is
about
bringing
everyone
together
and
making
that
airport
better
for
everyone,
and
that's
what
mr
shovel
is
committed
to
doing
it's
going
to
make
it
better
for
the
neighborhood
it's
going
to
make
it
better
for
the
current
tenants
and
it's
going
to
bring
in
new
people.
E
U
They
are
not
spending
4.5
million
they're
loaning
it
because
they're
getting
everything
back,
100
percent,
it's
prepaid
rent
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
clear-
with
people
they're,
not
spending
the
money,
they're
loaning,
the
money
and
taking
the
money
back,
making
sure
we're
all.
On
the
same
page.
E
Let
mr
chevron
explain
it
more
clearly,
but
the
most
important
thing
to
also
realize
is:
there
are
overhead
expenses
that
the
city
is
currently
paying
for
that
come
out
of
the
revenue
that's
being
generated
now
that
mr
shevlin
and
fly
usa
are
completely
absorbing
completely
absorbing
so
the
no
additional
overhead
expenses
all
of
that
is
being
absorbed
by
fly
usa.
So
do
you
want
to
explain
and
eric.
F
Touched
on
this
earlier-
and
that
is,
it
is
a
really
important
point-
all
of
the
expenses
that
the
city
is
currently
outlaying
today,
we're
now
absorbing
so
it's
like
we're
paying
the
current
rent
with
absorbing
those
expenses
and
then
what
we're
offering
to
prepay
is
rent
to
be
used
for
the
matching
funds
is
incremental
to
that
and
and
is
clearly
new
dollars.
That
aren't
being
you
know
that
aren't
being
captured
today
by
the
city.
F
So
it
absolutely
is
an
investment
that
is
incremental
to
the
current
rent
today,
because
the
current
rent
is
being
used
to
pay
all
those
expenses
that
we're
now
absorbing
so
so
it
is,
it
is
not
a
it
is.
It
is
incremental
revenue
to
the
city
for
that
purpose,
and
it
shouldn't
be
categorized
any
other
way.
K
C
F
So
I'll
address
the
math
question
before
we're
as
part
of
the
plan
and
again
we
can
re
talk
about
timing.
There
are
18,
I
think,
new
t-hangers
being
built
which
could
accommodate
18
of
the
30
people
in
the
shade
hangers
today,
and
they
will
obviously
be
committing
to
a
reduction
in
the
volume
of
flight
training
that
would
clearly
free
up
some
other
space
in
other
areas.
But
look
I
mean,
can
we
we
responded
to
this?
Aligning
with
the
alp.
Our
interpretation
of
the
alp
was
the
shade.
F
Hangers
are
being
replaced
with
t-hangers
hangers,
I'm
reluctant
to
stand
here
and
say
we
want
to
do
something
different
than
what
we've
put
in
that
proposal,
but
I
mean
we're,
certainly
open-minded,
but
would
want
something
like
that
to
derail
progress
over
the
next
seven
days.
Is
that
a
fair
response.
C
And
the
elements
is
still,
you
know
seen
as
more
preferred
than
just
the
grass,
but
those
people
may
not
be
able
to
actually
afford
a
tea
hanger.
So
that's
why
I'm
very
strong
advocate
for
being
able
to
retain
the
shade
hanger
option
and
I
remember
bringing
that
up
multiple
times
at
meetings
as
we
discussed
the
master
plan
and
what
could
be
done
within
that
and
were
there
other
options
versus
getting
rid
of
those.
So
I
just
would
hope
that
you
guys
would
be
open.
C
Anybody
else
have
any
other
final
questions.
Thank
you
all
right.
So
did
you
guys
have
any
final
thoughts
that
you
wanted
to
discuss.
C
C
C
H
H
H
A
How
big
is
fear
about
is
over
development
to
the
detriment
of
the
the
general
aviation
community
that
doesn't
fly,
900
000
services
and
4
million
dollar
kingdoms.
Exactly-
and
I
want
that
to-
I
want
that
general
aviation
capability
to
continue
to
exist.
I
have
to
I
know
that
the
law
usa
proposal
is
highly
developed
and
and
is
subject
to
some
negotiation,
and
I
can
see
that's
the
way
this
one
is
going
right
now
and
I
understand
that,
but
I
just
hope
it
doesn't
get
overdone.
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
The
kind
of
major
development
that's
being
proposed
on
that
property,
you
know
if
it
had
a
grass
feel
I
support
that
too,
but
you
know
where
I'm
coming
from
I'm
I'm
representing
the
neighborhoods
up
here.
So
that's
my
story
and
I'm
sticking
to
it
doesn't.
H
K
Let's
see
in
the
time
I've
lived
there.
I
was
there
during
the
18-month
period
where
there
were
three
fatal
accidents
at
the
airport.
K
That
doesn't
count
the
ultralight
flown
by
a
guy
named
frank
harding,
which
was
easy
for
me
to
remember,
because
I
live
on
harding
plaza,
whose
wings
folded
up-
and
I
I
was
standing
out
in
my
front
yard,
talking
to
my
neighbor
and
he
flew
over
and
when
he
came
around
he
was
still
climbing
and
evidently
he
had
engine
problems.
His
rotax
was
maybe
starved
to
fuel,
but
he
started
scalloping
and
he'd
go
up
and
it
failed
and
he'd
come
down
and
about
the
third
time
he
scalloped
the
wings,
hold
it
up.
K
K
She
was
in
that
plane
and
she
was
in
a
state
of
shock
and
when
I
got
to
her,
I
said,
are
you
okay?
She
said
the
plane.
We
crashed
my
dad's
in
that
plane.
We
crashed
with
it.
So
I
put
it
on
a
bench
and
that
was
in
the
front
yard
of
the
house
across
the
street,
and
about
that
time
the
emts
showed
up
at
the
end
of
the
block,
and
I
waved
one
of
them
down
and
they
came
over
and
they
took
care
of
her.
K
But
none
of
those
people
died,
but
that
plane
was
seriously
overloaded
by
500
pounds.
The
guy
in
the
right
hand,
in
the
left-hand
seat,
had
2600
hours
total
fly
time,
but
he
only
had
about
20
hours.
In
that
aircraft
he
overloaded
it
by
500
pounds.
I
think
barbara
were
suspicious
of
that.
I
had
spoken
to
him
about
it.
He
insisted
he
took
off.
He
also.
He
also
retracted
the
gear
and
the
flaps
before
the
sop,
the
manual
for
that
airplane
says
to
do
it,
so
it
just
wouldn't
fly
and
that's
when
it
crashed.
K
Helicopter
operations
have
been
an
aggravation
to
the
peace
treaty
that
we've
negotiated
over
a
20-year
period
with
the
current
operators
with
dave
and
barb,
and
that
included
originally
no
run-ups
or
takeoff
before
seven,
which
still
stands,
but
the
original
quit
time
was
an
hour
after
sunset.
I
believe,
and
now
it's
been
moved
to
11.
K
K
Our
complaints
to
the
city
were
heard,
and
so
there
was
nobody
to
call
if
they
came
in
late
at
night,
so
they
put
the
guard
there.
They
gave
him
a
cell
phone
and
the
neighbors
had
that
number.
So,
if
somebody
comes
in,
you
can
call
him
and
he'll
go
over
and
you'll
get
the
end
number
and
file
a
report
and
hand
it
to
him.
K
I
think
that's
the
way
it
works,
so
the
helicopters
came
and
yeah
they're
a
real
aggravation,
particularly
if
they
have
a
student
in
them
because
they
don't-
I
don't
know
david
might
say
it.
K
You
can
almost
tell
a
student
because
they're
a
little
tentative
in
their
approach
and
it
takes
them
a
little
longer
to
make
noise
over
the
house
before
they
get
down
to
the
to
the
runway.
So
if
the
helicopters
weren't
there
yeah
I'd
feel
better
about
it,
but
the
safety
concern.
K
You
know
it's
not
overblown
a
lot.
K
C
C
C
C
Yes
only
because
I
feel
that
fly
usa
has
addressed
a
lot
of
the
conversations
and
I'm
going
to
trust
you
and
that
what
you
guys
have
said
is
accurate
and
that
you
are
really
wanting
to
work
with
the
community
and
not
be
getting
rid
of
the
general
aviation
aircraft
and
the
community
feel
that
is
there,
and
I
really
hope
that
I'm
not
making
a
wrong
decision
by
saying.
Yes-
and
I
see
you
guys
kind
of
go
back
on
that
in
the
future.