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A
Area
Bruce
run
all
right,
I'm,
going
to
call
our
meeting
to
order
today,
we'll
give
Bruce
just
a
second
to
run
back
up
here
with
the
agenda,
and
our
first
item
will
be
motion
to
approve
our
November
meeting
minutes
see
if
anybody
had
any
edits
to
those
at
all.
If
not
I'll
just
need
a
motion
to
approve.
C
D
Hi
board
members:
my
name
is
Melody
in
sustainability,
specialist
with
the
city,
so
I'm
gonna
talk
about
how
the
green
print
might
give
some
recommendations
for
the
Air
Park.
So
in
2011,
Greenpoint
was
first
created
to
guide
the
city's
sustainability
efforts
and
ultimately
reduce
our
community
community-wide
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
then
in
2021.
The
plan
was
updated
to
Green
Point
2.0,
with
a
new
greenhouse
gas
inventory
information
and
strategies
to
further
guide
the
city's
efforts
as
well
and
in
today's
presentation,
we're
breaking
it
into
different
topics,
starting
with
energy
first.
D
D
High
energy
standards
is
basically
buildings
that
would
include
appropriate
building
and
solution.
High
efficiency
appliances
such
as
those
with
energy,
star
ratings
and
high
efficiency
lighting
such
as
LED
or
even
building
design
to
harness
natural
lighting
as
much
as
possible,
and
then
there's
others
like
smart
AC,
controls,
building
automation,
systems
that
basically
save
energy
altogether
and
green
Queens
in
our
green
print.
D
These
are
just
some
examples,
and
on
top
of
that,
we
also
recommend
having
solar,
including
solar
panel,
in
consideration,
where
appropriate
and
also
advantages,
sometimes
rooftop
solar
might
be
possible
and
sometimes
ground
Mount
system
might
be
more
applicable
for
for
sites
and
that
will
be
determined
by
a
solar
feasibility
study,
so
yeah.
The
next
point
is
on
cool
roof.
So
this
is
a
concept
where
you
know:
when
solar
isn't
an
option,
we
would
love
for
a
cool
roof
to
be
considered
on
structures
or
buildings.
D
Gurus
do
not
absorb
as
much
as
as
much
heat
as
traditional
Roots.
Therefore,
lowering
energy
costs
in
reducing
Urban
heat
island
effect,
and
we
do
know
that
with
an
operation
in
Air,
Park,
safety
is
of
you
know
greatest
concern.
So
Solutions
such
as
solar
and
cool
roofs
should
be
evaluated
to
ensure
that
any
reflectiveness
does
not
cause
visibility,
concerns
for
pilots,
pilots
or
any
other
safety
concerns
that
might
be
applicable
to
to
an
airport.
D
And,
however,
this
solution,
these
Solutions
are
actually
used
by
many
airports
across
the
world
and
their
placement
on
the
site
just
might
need
to
be
tailored
and
be
specific
to
The,
Landing
and
takeoff
pattern
in
our
own
Airport
yeah.
Next
song,
who
would
like
to
talk
about
Transportation,
so
charging
stations
for
Ev
electric
vehicles
are
recommended
too.
We
suggested
two
percent
of
all
places.
D
All
the
parking
spaces
should
be
EV
installed,
meaning
that
they
are
already
available
for
anyone
to
use
and
charge
their
EVs
and
then
10
to
15
of
spaces
should
be
EV
capable
for
future
expansion.
Basically,
and
these
slots
should
be
available
to
both
staff
and
the
public
and
then
golf
carts
and
other
company
Vehicles
should
be
electric
as
well,
and
that
depends
on
Market
availability
to
to
find
the
suitable
vehicles
and
there
was
a
question
from
before
yeah
any
so
there.
D
There
is
an
electric
golf
cart
provided
to
the
FBO
and
any
replacement
shoe
electric.
As
per
CD
policy.
We
do
have
a
green
Fleet
policy
that
is
called
alternative,
fuel
vehicles
and
vehicle
purchasing
guideline,
where
departments
should
replace
all
light
duty
vehicles
and
applicable
equipment
with
alternative
fuel
options
by
2040
and
in
support
of
this
goal.
Our
new
light
duty
vehicle
purchases
must
be,
alternatively,
fueled
after
October
1st
2028,
so
there's
a
moving
plan
there
and
for
their
aircrafts.
We
definitely
want
to
be
involved
in
not
be
involved,
but
rather
continue.
D
The
investigation
in
discussion
on
electric
aircrafts
for
future
use
and
I'm
by
no
means
an
expert
in
sustainable
Aviation,
but
I
did
a
little
research
and
it
seems
like
the
U.S
Department
of
Transportation,
the
Federal
Aviation
Administration
is
working
to
build
a
net
zero
sustainable
Aviation
system
by
2050
that
will
make
Aviation
cleaner,
quieter
and
more
sustainable.
So
we
we
hope
that
to
look
further
into
their
plan
and
see,
if
there's
any
knowledge
that
we
can
borrow
from
there
and
those
include
sustainable
Aviation
fuels
which
is
produced
from
renewable
and
waste
feed
stock.
D
That
can
provide
the
greatest
impact
in
efforts
of
reducing
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
there's
also
developments
on
new
aircrafts
in
gene
technology
too.
That
is
done
through
a
partnership
between
sustainable
flight,
National,
Partnership,
NASA
and
FAA,
basically
to
accelerate
the
development
of
more
efficient
aircraft
and
engine
Technologies
with
a
30
Improvement
in
fuel
savings
compared
to
today's
planes.
So
that's
great
news
and
we
would
love
to
dive
deeper
into
that.
D
And
water
on
the
topic
of
water,
we
would
love
to
recommend
prioritizing
low
impact,
development
and
re
utilizing
green
water
capture
systems
for
buildings,
and
that
will
be
able
to
divert
that
rain
water
to
assist
with
any
Landscaping
means
to
reduce
water
use
and
low
impact.
Development
is
a
design
approach
that
emphasizes
conservation
and
use
of
on-site.
Natural
features
to
protect
water
quality
and
cisterns.
Bios,
Wells
and
green
Gardens
are
some
of
the
examples
and
for
landscaping.
D
So
there's
a
recommendation
for
integrative
past
management,
which
provides
long-term
pest
prevention
using
natural
control
methods
and
also
only
use
pesticides.
If
no
other
option
is
effective
or
practical.
D
Ipm
should
be
considered
to
treat
all
landscaping
and
Turf
on
site
and
to
further
prevent
the
need
for
excessive
irrigation
and
pesticide
use.
Native
plants
should
be
prioritized
whenever
possible
in
all
Landscaping
practices.
D
D
So
resilience
is
a
big
part
of
what
we
want
to
focus
on
as
well,
just
because
of
the
geographical
location
of
clear
water.
We
are.
We
definitely
want
to
see
our
facilities
getting
hardened
and
essential
infrastructure
designed
to
withstand
hurricane,
intense
tropical
Cyclone
winds,
and
then
some
water
management
should
be
also
part
of
the
practice
where
green
infrastructure
is
prioritized
and
then
which
you
know,
helps
to
reduce
the
effect
of
extreme
precipitation
and
flooding.
D
And
then
thirdly,
something
that
you
know
often
gets
left
out
is
urban
heat
island
effect.
So
we
do
want
to
consider
Pavements
that
minimize
heat
absorption
as
well
yeah
so
on
environmental
justice,
we're
hoping
that
you
know
of
the
airport
continues
involving
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
explore
options
for
preventing
excessive
levels
of
pollution
and
other
impacts
such
as
noise,
odor
and
traffic
that
may
result
from
an
earth
operation
and
on
continuous
reporting.
D
You
know
it
will
be
really
helpful
to
to
gather
helpful
metrics
like
fuel
electricity
and
water
consumption
and
being
collaborative
in
how
we
evaluate
the
environmental
footprint
and
setting
goals
for
future
for
future
practices
between
the
operation
and
the
City
yeah.
Thank
you.
E
I,
just
one
comment:
I'd
love
to
make
in
the
transportation
area.
One
of
the
things
that's
always
kind
of
bug
me
is
the
number
of
City
vehicles
that
insist
on
their
engines
running
all
day
long.
You
see
the
the
sewer
department
guy
is
parked
in
there.
The
car
is
idling
for
two
hours,
while
he's
doing
a
job.
E
E
They've
done
to
use
so
much
power
that
you
can't
just
run
it
off
the
battery.
It
just
seems
I
can't
believe
how
many
hundreds
of
gallons
are
wasted
every
day,
tens
of
thousands
in
cities
all
over
the
country
where
all
these
vehicles
are
all
sitting
there
idling
all
day.
It
seems
to
me
that's
just
really
easy
fruit.
You
could
get.
E
That
would
really
have
a
an
impact
on
the
budget
and
everything
else
so
I
just
like
to
throw
that
out
there
and
and
your
your
ideas
about
sustainable
fuels
and
all
that
we've
spent
the
general
aviation
industry
is.
Is
we've
spent
what
10
or
15
years
working
on
getting
rid
of
100
love
love.
You
know
to
a
numb
Planet
fuel,
so
it's
going
to
be
a
long
time
until
my
airplane
runs
on
sustainable
fuel,
I'm.
Sorry
to
say
that
that
ain't
gonna
happen
a
few
times
I.
F
D
Oh
yes,
so
I
think
the
presentation
was
sort
of
shaped
in
a
way
that
you
know
how
we
can
work
with
the
Air
Park,
but
we
do
have.
We
do
have
actionable
strategies
in
in
the
green
print
itself
and
all
those
strategies
guide
our
sustainability
sustainability
efforts
from
the
city,
so
I
personally
am
working
a
lot
on
Outreach
and
education
to
inform
the
public
of
certain.
D
C
D
An
example
will
be
this
Saturday
we
have
the
sustainability
Conference
held
at
Morningside
Rec
Center,
where
we
it's
a
free
to
attend
an
event
where
we
invited
a
lot
of
non-profit
speakers
and
citizen
panelists
to
talk
about
solar
energy,
electric
vehicle,
Energy
Efficiency,
and
also
how
to
actually
Finance
such
purchases,
and
we
definitely
are
moving
towards
just
sparking
the
conversation
and
making
an
interactive
session
and
just
to
get
a
conversation
going
that's
one
front
and
then,
on
the
municipal
side,
we
are
working
towards
getting
so
like
solar
panels
and
also
increasing
our
EV
charging
stations.
G
I
think
I
can
add
a
little
bit
too
and
just
for
some
context,
certainly
because
we
operate
this
through
a
lease
agreement.
Our
sustainability
Department
can
be
a
resource
to
the
tenant
and,
as
new
information
comes
through
them,
we
can
certainly
share
that.
But
you
know,
as
a
city,
we
can
control
the
new
vehicles
we
purchase.
G
We
can
make
decisions
on
what
we
purchase
and
supply
to
the
tenant,
but
certainly
they're
going
to
make
business
decisions
too,
that
they
may
rely
on
some
of
this
information
to
Make
a
Better
Business
decision
when
it
comes
to
the
building
they
construct
and
those
things.
Because
if
you
save
energy,
you
save
money,
so
you
know
there's
an
incentive
there,
but
you
also
have
to
balance
that
with
what
is
that
expenditure
versus
your
Roi?
G
So
a
lot
of
these
things
may
not
have
an
Ori
but
they're
the
right
thing
to
do,
and
you
know:
can
the
city
impose
that
on
a
private
business
and
I?
Think
that
that
therein
lies
a
question
had
you
or
had
we
incorporated
a
bunch
of
requirements
related
to
Green
print
into
a
lease
agreement
that
may
have
been
a
non-starter
because
it
was
too
costly
and-
and
we
didn't
even
know
the
cost-
and
we
don't
know
those
costs
at
this
point.
I
do
know
that
fly.
G
Usa
is
very
interested
in
the
DB
charging
stations
as
part
of
the
new
parking
lot
and
things
of
that
nature
and
I
think
it's
it's
in
their
best
interest
to
be
to
track
dual
usage
and
energy
usage,
because
that's
part
of
their
business
plan
I
mean
you
have
to
control
those
costs
and
and
what
better
way
to
be
able
to
leverage
our
own
City
Department
and
have
a
supply,
information
and
resources
to
them
throughout
this
process.
G
So
I
think
that's
the
relationship
between
sustainability
and
fly
USA
going
forward,
but
there's
things
that
we
are
already
doing.
You
know
my
Department's
buying.
You
know
hybrid
vehicles
and
things
of
that
nature
so
that
that's
something
that
we're
we're
already
and
the
city
can
control
what
the
city
does.
If
fly
USA
were
to
buy
non-hybrid
Vehicles,
there's
really
not
something
we
can
do
about
that,
and
nor
really
should
we
but
I
think
it's
it's
for
me.
It's
a
resource,
that's
available,
yeah.
F
And
it's
when
it
comes
to
the
who's
going
to
write
the
check
I'm
coming
from
our
suddenly
original
stakeholders
committee
that
worked
for
seven
months
to
write
green
prep
and
all
these
years
later,
I'm
a
little
disappointed
because
we
sold
it
to
city
council
and
they
went
and
agreed
to
everything.
The
only
thing
they
didn't
agree
to
in
the
initial
presentation
was
that
we
had
a
50
reduction
by
2035
in
emissions,
and
so
we
lowered
that
to
30.
took
it
back
and
they
approved
everything
and
there
was
precious
little
actually
achieved.
F
Charging
station
shifts
and
we've
gone
to.
We
started
using
liquefied
natural
gas
energy
for
City
vehicles
and
the
buses.
There
were
a
lot
of
critical
aspects
there
that
we
gave
them
actionable.
It
was
a
measurable
and
actionable
plan
and
they
agreed
to
it
and
then
sort
of
so
now
we've
got
two
of
them.
You
get
to
try
again
so
I'm
going
to
come
help
you
if
you
want,
but
it
that's.
Why
I
asked
the
question?
F
F
That
was
that
and
the
property
north
of
Gulf
to
Bay,
where
the
hotel
is
right
on
the
Bayside
bridge
that
hotel
and
that
elevation
dumps
down,
and
that
was
a
watershed,
a
critical
Watershed
for
the
bay
and
instead
we
permitted
it
out.
We
changed
it
and
allowed
them
to
fill
it
in
and
build
a
hotel,
but
then
about
eight
years
later,
they
finally
put
that
made
a
part
there
in
that
that
raw
land,
that
was
a
wetland
and
it
saved
it
from
development.
F
F
Don't
worry
about
it
because
well
and
as
it
pertains
to
the
air
to
the
airport,
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
problem
there
in
the
operation
of
the
Air
Park
they've.
The
studies
on
it
show
that
it's
like
one
tenth
of
one
percent
higher
than
the
average
surrounding
area
problem
with
that
property
is
tornado.
F
They
are
recycling
concrete
and
asphalt
for
decades
up
there
and
they
they
sit
at
big
piles
of
it
on
the
ground,
and
you
know
that
seeps
and
then
just
immediately
south
of
there
is
a
depression
with
all
those
PVC
pipes.
Sticking
up
that's
to
release
the
carbon
dioxide
from
what
used
to
be
the
city
dump.
So
that's
where
the
problem
is,
and
it's
not
the
Air
Park
okay,
I'll
be
quiet.
Now,
I
Eric
I
was.
B
You
know
we
have
talked
in
the
past
about
potential
development
of
various
kinds
at
the
airport.
So
are
we
looking
at
City
I,
don't
want
to
use
the
term
Force
but
encourage
any
develop
any
development
there,
whether
it's
by
the
current
tenant
or
future
tenants
to
employ
green
green
print?
In
other
words,
let's
say,
for
example,
we're
going
to
build
a
different
terminal.
There's
a
lot
of
things
that
you
talked
about.
B
G
G
We
put
obstacles
in
place
to
them
completing
a
project
because
we
insisted
on
a
million
dollars
worth
of
solar
that
there's
some
challenges
with
an
Airfield
with
the
reflectivity
and
all
those
things.
So
you
know
I
think
it
has
to
be
a
business
decision
and
it
has
to
be
reasonable.
So
I
think
you
know,
there's
is
there
opportunity
for
us
to
suggest
you
know
cool
roofs
and
things
like
that?
Absolutely
and
I
think
it
affects
their
bottom
line
if
they
reduce
their.
You
know
HVAC
costs
by
20
percent.
G
G
When
you
try
to
establish
a
lease
agreement,
you're
establishing
this
base
lease
agreement
and
then,
if
you,
you
change
terms
along
the
way
and
say,
oh
by
the
way,
that's
going
to
cost
you,
an
extra
million
I
think
you
fundamentally
created
a
legal
problem
for
yourself
by
changing
the
terms.
Without
amending
at
least.
A
And
I
can
understand
that
too
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
miss
an
opportunity
for
the
city
to
work
with
the
tenant
and
departments
within
the
city.
You
know
not
just
sustainability,
but
you
know
you
know
Parks
and
Rec
or
whoever
it
is
that
does
all
the
landscaping
for
the
city.
Maybe
you
already
have
access
to
all
these
native
plants
and
stuff
and
I'm,
not
quite
sure
like
who
would
be
responsible
for
any
kind
of
landscaping
at
the
Air
Park
I
mean.
Is
that
all
the
tenant
responsibility,
or
is
that
you.
A
G
Responsibility,
it
is
in
to
the
extent
that
that
you
know
they'll
be
responsible
for
those
things.
However,
and
I'll
talk
about
it
during
my
my
presentations
here,
but,
for
instance,
the
Western
Fence
that
is
completely
overgrown
and
in
really
bad
shape.
We
went
and
inspected
that
with
Parks
and
Rec
the
other
day
to
see
if
there
was
an
opportunity
to
resolve,
but
I'll
talk
about
in
a
minute.
Okay,
okay,
yeah,
because
that
that.
A
Was
the
kind
of
thing
I
just
wasn't
quite
sure
like
who
would,
in
the
end
be
responsible
for
things?
You
know
like
adding
rain
barrels
seems
like
an
easy
thing.
Would
that
be
the
city
that
does
that
though,
or
the
tenant
and
I
just
would
like
to
see
the
continued
operation
of
all
the
different
available
Departments
of
working
together
and.
G
As
far
as
you
know,
the
recycling
came
up.
You
know
our
intent
is
to
ensure
that
we
have
adequate
receptacles
out
there
and
things
like
that.
Those
Subterranean
compactors
are
ridiculously
expensive.
They
they
put
several
out
on
the
beach,
and
that
would
that
would
not
be.
You
know
consistent
with
what
we
would
want
out
there
ridiculously
expensive
yeah.
A
Wasn't
sure
I
was
going
off
of
what
the
picture
was
in
the
presentation
and
I
wasn't
I
was
like.
Well,
that's
not
what
they're
you
know.
What's
there
now,
so
I
wasn't
sure
if
something
like
that
would
be
be
updated
and
then,
as
far
as
the
continuous
reporting
you
know,
you
mentioned
that
the
tenant
fly.
Usa
would
probably
just
be
doing
that
anyway
and
so
I'm,
hoping
that
if
you
talk
to
them-
and
they
say
they're
doing
something
like
that-
that
they
would
be
open
to
sharing
that
information,
then
back
with
just.
G
Reporting
requirement
is
pretty
robust,
but
I
think
you
know
the
market
tends
to
take
care
of
some
of
these
things
because
they
have
to
make
good
business
decisions
if
they've
got
you
know,
fuel
shrinkage
for
whatever
reason
or
any
issues
of
that
nature
they
need
to
be
on
top
of
it
to
make
sure
they're,
profitable,
yeah
and
I
think
you
know
that
that
tends
to
take
care
of
itself
if
you're
trying
to
run
this
to
make
a
profit
at
it
and
whereas
municipalities,
sometimes
you
know,
that's
not
the
model
and
I
think
that's.
B
B
So
I'm,
just
saying
that
if,
if
you
as
sort
of
the
representative
of
the
city
wants
to
find
out
a
little
bit
more,
do
some
digging
and
I
think
you,
you
may
even
be
able
to
it's
only
saying
Garner
information
off
of
some
of
the
things
that
are
going
on
in
the
industry
and
and
you
can
determine
how
they
might
apply
to
a
smaller
airport,
such
as
the
airport.
F
A
Well,
our
next
agenda
item
was
supposed
to
be
to
welcome
our
new
board
member,
but
for
those
of
you
who
did
not
hear
what
happened,
the
guy,
who
was
appointed
by
the
city
council,
just
got
a
job
with
the
city,
so
that
was
a
conflict
for
him
to
participate
on
the
board,
so
he
already
had
to
resign.
So
we
will
have
to
Circle
back
with
the
city
to
appoint
a
new
member.
A
Okay,
all
right,
so
next
we
are
on
to
our
next
year
already,
so
we
have
to
elect
our
2023
chair
and
vice
chair.
G
A
H
I'm
also
going
to
bring
up
tomorrow.
It
is
not
spoken
to
and
your
rules
and
your
bylaws
and
procedures.
C
H
The
question
whether
the
S,
physio,
Can,
Vote
or
be
I,
can't
vote
I,
don't
think
I
think
I
remember
they
cannot
vote
if
they.
A
G
Afternoon,
Eric
Andy
marine
and
Aviation
director
I'm,
going
to
just
touch
on
a
couple
current
events,
if
you
will,
as
you
guys
all
have
been
following
throughout
the
RFP
process,
since
June
City
Council
on
January
12th,
approved
the
lease
agreement
between
the
city
and
fly
USA
as
a
operating
development
and
management
agreement
for
Clearwater
Airport.
It's
a
multi-faceted
agreement
touching
on
several
things,
but
but
first
and
foremost
it's
to
manage
and
operate
a
public
use.
G
General
aviation
airport,
that's
the
first
mandate,
that's
one
of
the
first
things
mentioned
in
the
lease
agreement
and
that's
critically
important
because
that's
what
this
is
so
I
wanted
to
speak
to
that
and-
and
let
you
know
kind
of
the
timetable
for
this.
So
the
turnover
is
March,
1st,
Mike
and,
and
our
staff
went
out
today
and
posted
some
notifications
out
at
the
airport,
both
at
the
terminal
and
over
the
prox
card
reader,
so
that
any
tenants
coming
in
is
going
we'll,
be
able
to
obtain
fly.
Usa's
information
in
the
event
fly.
G
Usa
is
unable
to
reach
them.
So
we
we
have
tenant
lists.
We
don't
have
all
the
contact
information
necessary
to
reach
out
to
every
tenant
and
fly
USA
will
be
reaching
out
to
everyone
they
have
and
obtaining
additional
information.
But
we've
left
that
as
a
resource
for
for
anyone
out
there,
customers
tenants
to
reach
out
to
fly
USA,
so
there's
an
email
and
a
phone
number.
G
We
posted
that
today,
so
those
Outreach
letters
are
out
there
Lots
going
on
on
the
back
side
fly.
Usa
is
already
moving
forward
with
an
approach
for
one
six
I
think
that's
huge.
We've
got
a
scope
of
work
on
that
project.
We're
working
through
that
because
you
know
during
the
course
of
the
negotiations,
their
RFP
response.
That's
their
responsibility.
However,
the
city
has
to
own
an
approach,
so
the
municipal
government
has
to
own
the
approach.
So
we're
working
through
that
to
ensure
that
you
know
we
move
that
along
I.
G
Think
that's
that's
critically.
Important
and
timing
is
important
to
them
to
to
move
it
along
quickly,
also
in
terms
of
kind
of
their
Outreach
they've
been
in
touch
with
The
Arc.
Regarding
the
fundraiser
coming
up
a
mere
three
days,
I
think
after
they
take
over,
they
are
committed
to
making
that
successful,
so
Mr
chevlin's
been
in
contact
with
the
park
and
and
they're
going
to
work
through
any
of
the
logistics
related
to
that
event.
I
know
important
one
for
the
for
the
it's
going
to
be
an
important
one
for
flight
USA.
G
Moving
forward,
we've
had
Communications
with
several
Air
Patrol
and
I,
put
Mr
Shetland
in
touch
with
Mike
devino
with
the
EAA,
so
I
think
it's
important
and
it's
important
to
them
to
establish
those
relationships
and
understand
the
history
and
I
think
history
is
really
important.
Sometimes
you
have
to
look
back
to
see
why
things
were
done,
how
they
were
done,
how
things
came
to
be
and
a
lot
of
times
it's
not
so
easy
to
find,
and
you
have
to
talk
to
a
lot
of
people
to
get
to
that
history,
so
they're
in
that
process.
G
Now,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
are
looking
at.
We
have
some
Penny
money
and-
and
you
guys
have
mentioned
it-
we've
had
conversations
over
funding
sources
for
that
airport.
We
have
some
Penny
money
for
the
terminal
project.
G
The
hope
is
that
we
can
move
fdot
funding
and
obtain
f-dot
funding
earlier
than
we
have
it
incorporated
into
our
cips
and
into
our
development
plans
and
then
match
that
with
750
000
in
Penny
money
to
get
a
little
more
bang
for
our
buck
in
terms
of
what
we
can
build
in
terms
of
a
terminal
and
parking
lot.
So
that's
all
in
the
works
now
Mike's
been
in
communication
with
fdot
I've,
been
working
with
our
finance
department
to
have
those
conversations
to
that
end.
G
Looked
at
it
and
recognized
that
it's
not
as
easy
as
moving
the
fence
afoot
to
the
east,
because
that
interferes
with
our
setbacks
for
the
runway.
So
we
have
to
have
a
comprehensive
project
to
remove
all
that
junk
and
then
replace
it
with
fencing,
we're
going
with
eight
foot
with
triple
strand
barbed
wire
atop
that
for
security
purposes,
so
I
met
or
had
conversations
with
Finance
on
this
talked
to
the
finance
director
a
little
bit
about
it
and
we're
going
to
sit
down
and
discuss
the
ability
to
leverage
some
Penny
money,
F
dot
funding.
G
That
along
Keen,
you
know
that
runs
Just
Between
The
Landings
and
the
Air
Park
okay
in
total,
we're
looking
at
what
was
it
12,
15,
000,
twelve
five.
So
it's
it's
expensive!
You.
G
On
all
sides:
yeah,
okay,
so
it's
a
huge
project,
but
if
we're
able
to
leverage
grant
funding,
it's
it's
doable
from
our
end
and
we
would
look
at
it
and
look
at
some
Penny
money
to
to
balance
that
out
in
terms
of
our
match.
So
it's
ambitious
because
it's
so
expensive
I
mean
we
estimate
it's
several
million
dollars
or.
G
F
Okay,
because
the
rest
of
the
perimeter
is
open
to
the
public,
is
six
foot
fencing,
yeah.
G
Well,
it's
eight
along
Hercules
without
wire.
It's
it's
a
mishmash.
It's
it's
problematic!
It's
a
bunch
of
different
levels,
I
think
what
we're
going
to
do.
We've
got
a
little
bit
of
funding
now
and
it's
a
stop.
Gap
we're
going
to
close
about
500
feet
on
the
southwest
corner.
That's
six
foot!
Eight
foot,
five
foot!
G
It's
it's
a
mess!
So
we're
going
to
work
on
that
and
then.
G
G
E
We
were
told
on
this
board
a
number
of
years
ago,
nowaday
I
had
some
consultant
come
in,
because
I
was
I
was
always
kind
of
the.
How
can
we
get?
You
know
this
sort
of
thing
he
came
in
and
proved
that
it
was
impossible
to
have
an
approach
to
one
sex
because
of
the
northern
corporate
behaviors
and
the
golf
course
they
said
was
too
close.
You
know
and
I
don't
remember
what
year
that
was
the
veracity
of
that
I'm
not
familiar
with,
but
it
clearly
was
going
to
be
difficult
yeah.
G
Sure
you
know
sure
so,
yeah
they're
looking
at
that
that
they
have
a
legitimate
consultant
that
does
these
things
and
works
with
municipalities
with
yeah
and
I've.
Looked
at
the
scope
of
work
briefly,
just
skimmed
over
to
I'm
going
to
have
a
meeting
with
procurement
to
determine
how
to
proceed
with
that,
because,
as
I
explained
they're
going
to
pay
for
it
we're
going
to
own
it,
how
do
we?
How
do
we
deal
with
the
procurement
component
of
that?
G
And
it
may
be
pretty
straightforward
based
on
the
fact
that
no
taxpayer
money,
no
no
money-
is
going
to
this
from
from
the
citizens
or
the
city.
So,
needless
to
say,
we're
working
through
that.
But
you
know
there's
some
some
challenges:
I
I
did
look
at
Mike
and
I
found
an
old
old
map.
That's
got
to
be
30
40
years
old
on.
G
You
know
ambitious
development
projects
for
the
Air
Park,
and
so
it's
it's
funny
to
see
how
these
things
have
come
and
gone
over
the
years
and
then
the
other
big
project
that
Mike's
been
working
on
is
we.
G
We
have
a
pavement
management
plan
and
it's
engaging
with
design
and
contractors
to
or
actually
contractors
to
do,
Mill
and
overlay
in
certain
areas
that
we
know
are
substandard
and
then
do
the
maintenance
overlay
stuff
in
areas
that
we
can
just
improve
from
an
overlay
again
an
expensive
project,
and
you
know
the
the
starts
with
a
million
bucks.
So
it's
these
things
are
not
cheap,
but
we're
going
to
work
with
fly
USA
as
well
and
say:
listen!
G
If,
if
we're
going
to
proceed
with
this
project,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
going
to
do
a
million
overlay
on
an
area
that
we're
going
to
develop
in
two
years.
It
would
be
a
waste
of
money.
So
it's
it's
a
couple
moving
parts
to
that,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
you
know
we
improve
that
reduce
the
opportunity
for
fog
or
propeller
strikes
with
a
depression
in
in
any
piece
of
that
pavement
on
the
tarmac
yeah.
A
Well,
two
point:
I've
heard
multiple
conversations
that
there's
concern
for
that
on
the
actual
Turf
tie
downs,
because
it's
the
same
thing
so
I
didn't
know
the
city
had
any
kind
of
plans
to
level
all
of
that
in
the
midst
of
all
of
this
other
development,
because
I
have
concerns
that,
if
the
shade
hangers
per
se
are
torn
down
and
they're
going
to
build
a
corporate
Hangar
there
and
that
displaces
those
aircraft
they're
thinking
that
there's
enough
tie
down
space,
because
there
is
that
second
row
right
in
front
of
the
shade
hangers,
but
that's
pretty
much
unusable
during
the
rainy
season
because
it
dips
down
in
water.
A
G
City
or
so
so
part
of
this
process
and
the
turnover
is
an
inspection,
pre-turnover,
inspection,
post
turnover,
inspection
and
then
site
assessments
and
and
we're
going
to
do
those
assessments
kind
of
comprehensively
to
look
at
areas
that
need
Improvement
either
by
the
city,
fly
USA
or
both.
So
all
of
that
is
on
the
table
and
we
we
recognize
that
those
issues
are
there
and
exist.
G
They've
existed,
I,
Found,
Records
of
depressions
in
the
grass
areas
and
they
a
long
time
that
they
filled
over
the
years
and
compacted
and
and
because
I
suspect
some
of
it
was
on
landfill
material
that
you
have
some
subsidence
in
areas
out
there
I
I
would
imagine.
So
we
have
to
look
at
all
of
those
things
and
then,
in
my
letter
to
the
tenants,
I
indicated
that
you're
you're
going
to
see
us
I
mean
we
had
three
trucks
out
there.
G
Looking
at
fencing
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
and
you're
going
to
continue
to
see
our
folks
and
any
Consultants
that
we
use
to
evaluate
these
things,
but
certainly,
if
there's
any
kind
of
displacement
of
tenants
for
a
period
of
time,
while
T
hangers
are
built.
You
have
to
make
sure
that
they're
in
an
area
that's
safe
to
operate
out
of,
we
don't
need.
You
know
rough
field
Landing
practice
out
there,
so
you've
got
to
be
very
careful
of
this
stuff.
G
G
Obviously,
so,
if
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
that
you
know
we're
trying
to
work
through
in
preparation
for
this
turnover
on
March
1st,
so
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
challenges
ahead
of
us,
but
but
I
think
you
know
I'm
optimistic
and
really
excited
about
the
prospects
of
making
some
some
real
improvements
out
there
and
you
know
I
think
it's
an
opportunity
to
to
affect
some
change
not
to
to
you
know
it's
just
the
way
the
city
operated
it
for
generations
and
I
think
it's
time
to
change
that
and
take
a
more
active
role
in
making
sure,
for
instance,
if
we
replace
thousands
of
feet
of
fence
that
we
have
a
maintenance
schedule
to
keep
the
Brazilian
peppers
from
growing
through
our
million
dollar
fans
and
and
that
takes
effort-
and
you
know
expenditure
of
funds,
but
you
have
to
have
it.
G
You
have
to
have
Capital
maintenance,
so
we're
going
to
be
doing
those
assessments
along
the
way
to
determine
which
structures.
You
know
we.
We
have
an
idea
what
needs
immediate
attention,
but
we
also
have
we
have
to
prioritize
all
those
things
and
figure
out
kind
of
an
order
of
operations.
G
B
B
G
So
on
so
they've
they've
got
to
do
regular
inspections
report
back
to
us
on
any
items
that
are
our
responsibility.
Certainly
the
fencing
our
responsibility,
maintenance
items
fall
to
them.
Yes,
during
the
course
of
so
they
build
a
new
terminal
and
they
have
issues
that
come
up
with
the
build
subsequent
to
the
bill.
G
They've
got
to
take
care
of
those
things,
but
if
it's
some
existing
condition
that
we've
got
to
address
those
are
our
responsibility,
obviously,
and
I've
said
that
to
council
and
mention
it
to
you
guys
I
mean
we
don't
sign
off
all
our
liabilities
to
an
operator
right.
No
one
would
take
that
deal
if
I
said,
oh
and
by
the
way,
here's
a
two
million
dollar
bill
for
your
fence
or
three
million
dollar
bill
for
your
fence.
G
So
I
think
you
know
you
have
to
balance
those
things
and
that's
what
took
place
during
the
course
of
all
these
negotiations
in
the
lease
and
I
think
you
know
that
and
we're
talking
about
hundreds
of
hours
of
conversations
between
multiple
individuals
to
get
this
to
where
it
is.
This
is
this,
you
know,
but
you
have
to
contemplate
all
those
things
and
you
can't
say
that,
hopefully
we
fly,
you
say:
you're
responsible
for
a
hanger
built
1950s.
F
It
doesn't
work
like
that,
for
the
draft
lease
is
pretty
clear
that
fly
USA
would
be
responsible
for
the
landscape
maintenance,
not
choosing
interplantment,
including
cutting
the
grass
with
our
mower,
which
we'll
Supply,
but
they
have
to
take
care
of,
but
it
doesn't
mention
any
of
the
buildings
or
Capital
Improvements.
There.
F
G
Provides
for
that,
when
you
talk
about
building
a
new
structure,
you
have
to
have
so
many
parking
spaces
and
it
has
to
be
landscaping
and
you
have
to
deal
with
runoff
and
you
have
to
deal
with
all
those
things.
So
that's
all
provided
foreign
code
and
during
the
they're
reimbursing
us
fully
for
the
expenses
to
build
these
things,
and
you
know
up
to
2.4
million
dollars.
G
F
I
have
one
other
question
about
fly
USA
bringing
in
the
turbo
props
and
if
those
planes
come
in,
that's
fine,
but
they
are
carrying
passengers
for
pay.
So
does
that
Force
part
135
on
those
operations
now.
G
F
E
B
You
know
I
know
the
the
cities
makes
the
policy
the
tenant
has
to
follow
the
policy
there
are
I
assume
there
are
also
some
standard
operating
procedures
for
the
airport
and
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
there
there's
no
change
in
those
from
one
tenant
to
the
next.
Now.
G
Patterns
the
same
all
those
things,
the
conditions
effectively
I,
don't
think
anyone's
going
to
notice
the
different
difference
as
a
tenant.
The
impact,
the
significant
impact
of
any
restrictions
fall
to
the
flight
school
actually
in
terms
of
number
of
helicopters
that
will
be
allowed
out
there
pattern
activity
after
dark,
Flight
Training
after
Sunset
and
those
kind
of
things,
so
those
were
were
conditions
that
we
put
in
the
lease
that
have
never
existed
before
the
the
existing
lease
would
would
have
allowed
or
allows
for
classical
operations
anytime.
G
The
airport
is
open,
I
mean
that
is
how
the
current
operating
conditions
are.
So
we
we
understood
the
neighborhood's
input
and
fly
USA,
understood
that
and
we
put
significant
number
of
restrictions
in
Holiday
restrictions
on
that
that
have
never
existed
before
and
I.
Think
that's
what
you
know
the
the
idea
was
to
reduce
that
level
of
intensity
and
pattern
work
over
the
neighborhoods
after
Dark
and
I.
Think
that's
that's
a
significant
departure
from
what.
B
It
has
been
that's
that's
the
kind
of
Sops
that
I
was
wondering
about
you
know,
so
that
makes
sense.
Now
the
question
and
I
always
like
to
ask
I
think
I'd.
Ask
you
this
before,
but
I
mean
I'm
I'm
I'm
a
big
advocate
of
improving
their
end.
Is
there
any
more
thought,
any
further
thought
perhaps
given
to
FAA
grants.
G
At
this
point
now,
because
we
met
with
the
FAA
and
as
I
mentioned
previously,
we
met
with
them
and
the
grant
assurances
require
you
to
do
some
things.
That
would
certainly
be
in
conflict
with
what
the
neighborhood
came
up
here
and
spoke
to
us
about
yeah
yeah.
So
you
know
I
think
until
that
sentiment
were
to
change
we're
not
pursuing
grant
funding.
The
best
we
can
do
is
80
from
F,
Dot
and
I.
Think,
even
that
it's
very
generous
and
I
think
it
allows
us
to
do
some
things
we
couldn't
do
otherwise.
E
G
Subject
absolutely
and-
and
you
know,
I
think
if
you,
if
you
look
back
when
they
extended
the
hours
to
11
pm,
oh
yeah,
there
was
a
lot
of
pushback
related
to
that
and.
G
Know
I
I
did
three
o'clock
in
the
morning
when
the
C-130
decides
to
govern
my
house
in
Safety,
Harbor,
no
sure
I
know
about
it.
So
I
think
know
about.
G
It's
very
little
and
it's
very
it's
overstated
that
intensity
at
night
yeah,
because
you
know
part
of
my
responsibility
when
I
was
a
Watch
Commander
for
the
PD
was
to
have
people
go
check
on
the
Airpark
and
there's
not
a
lot
going
on
once
the
doors
closed
yeah,
it's
I
think
it's
one
of
those
things
that
would
be
a
non-starter
yeah
for
the
community.
Yeah.
E
G
Just
there,
if
you
followed
and
listen,
this
is
a
different
scenario,
but
if
you
followed
Naples,
they
took
FAA
money.
They
then
because
of
the
pushback
from
the
neighboring
communities
established
a
curfew,
voluntary
curfew.
Okay,
no
one
was
adhering
to
the
curfew.
So
then
their
latest
effort
is
you
can't
pump
gas
during
the
hours
of
the
curfew.
Okay,
so
it's
it's!
They.
They
can't
give
back
the
FAA
money,
yeah
they're,
they're,
beholding
to
the
FAA
and
now
they're
trying
to
figure
out
strategies
for
solitary
curfew.
Then
we
were
not
pumping
gas.
G
G
B
A
E
F
G
G
Information-
and
we
heard-
and
this
one
really
there's
there's
assurances
that
we
would
have
to
abide
by
you
know,
could
that
change
at
some
point
absolutely
I
mean
I
I,
don't
see
it
I,
don't
see
the
desire
to
do
that
right
now,
but
you
know
people
have
had
that
conversation
with
me.
So.
E
While
we're
talking
about
fencing
one
thing
I
didn't
want
to
forget
to
bring
up
today
is
the
North
Gate.
E
G
C
G
C
H
As
chair,
but
your
bylaws
and
procedures
are
silent
to
the
issue
so.
A
And
so
you're
told
otherwise
yeah,
okay,
so
I
think
I
don't
know.
Maybe
we
can
move
forward
with
something
like
that
and
then
ask
Council
to
put
it
into
the
ordinance
or
something
for
official
status
if
needed.
A
E
E
B
F
F
F
So
I'm
not
going
to
ask
I
think
it's
it's
impossible
to
to
get
the
word
out
because
of
the
skepticism
and
the
latest.
Just
so
you're
aware.
The
latest
is
that
there
was
a
small
municipal
airport,
I
think
in
Maryland,
and
the
city
wanted
to
buy
it
from
whoever
the
county
or
whoever
had
it.
And
this
the
deal
is
falling
through
because
of
the
polluted
ground
they
found
out.
It
was
a
brown
field
and
that
drove
the
price
up
about
three
million
dollars
to
remediate
the
dirt.
F
B
G
This
all
has
to
do
with
the
fact
that
anytime,
the
city
leases
a
property
for
over
five
years,
they're
required
to
declare
it
as
Surplus
I
think
that
the
confusion
comes
in
when
people
opine
as
to
what
that
really
means.
The
city
attorneys
have
clearly
stood
up
here
and
explained
that
it
means
nothing
more
than
it's
it's
a
it's
a
formality.
We
have
to
go
through
to
engage
in
at
least
over
five
years
and
and
I
don't
know
because,
like
a
lot
of
these,
things
are
taking
place
on
social
media.
G
There's
really
no
mechanism
to
combat
that,
and-
and
you
know,
some
of
them
are
exclusive
kind
of
neighborhood
connections
that
the
city
doesn't
engage
with.
I
mean
we're
not
supposed
to
engage
with
some
of
these
neighborhood,
apps
and
and
and
so
I,
don't
know
what
more
they
could
do,
because
it's
it's
honestly,
it's
taken
place
many
times
before
any
time
they
engage
in
these
longer
term
leases.
So
I
I,
don't
know
what
the
answer
is.
G
I
think
you
know
the
legal
advisor
and
the
City
attorney
have
answered
that
question
several
times
and
put
things
out
so
I
I,
don't
know
what
vehicle
that
we
we
kind
of
getting
from
the
next
rumor
I.
Don't
know
well.
F
We
just
thank
them
for
the
information
and
that
we
certainly
will
take
it
under
consideration.
Take
a
look
at
it
and
see.
What's
going
on,
there
is
a
Brownfield
or
a
pollution
problem
that
the
north
end
up
by
sarnago,
because
when
the
the
original
proposed
lease
with
the
developer,
Hogan
or
whoever
it
was
to
put
the
light
industrial
Warehouse
complex
in
there
in
the
they,
they
would
develop
in
four
stages,
starting
at
the
South
and
moving
up
and
then
the
fourth
stage.
In
the
northernmost
part
of
that
landing's
property,
there
was
a
rent.
F
There
was
Elise
easement,
payback
to
them
credit
for
1.7
million
dollars
to
cover
the
remedial
grading
that
needed
to
be
done
up
there,
because
there
was
bad
dirt
under
it
and
it
was
going
to
cost
them
a
million
seven.
So
we
were
gonna
if
the
City
had
known
about
it,
evidently
for
a
while-
and
that
was
a
way
of
getting
around
it,
so
they
would
pay
for
it
and
then
we'd.
You
know
let
them
off
the
hook
for
some
of
the
rent
payments,
but
the
bad
Dart
is
there.
F
But
it's
you:
can
the
corner
of
Drew
and
Martin
Luther
up
there,
where
the
where
the
school
is?
F
That
was
a
Brownfield
that
used
to
be
a
city
garage
for
decades
when
they
moved
it
out
because
of
all
the
oil
and
that
stuff
that
leaks
out
of
garages
and
nobody
developed
that
thing
or
looked
at
that
lot
for
years
and
then
finally,
a
Scientology,
I,
guess
came
in
and
was
willing
to
pay
to
remediate
it
and
that's
where
the
school
is.
So
it
could
be
done
it
in
false
costs.
C
F
A
Months
now,
as
far
as
there's
going
to
be
a
new
at
least
a
new
RFP
that
went
out
and
I
really
don't
feel
like
the
city
did
a
good
job
with
informing
and
the
things
that
did
come
out
like
this
surplus
of
land
was
not
in
very
good
plain
language.
For
those
who
did
see
it
because
I
know,
I
got
multiple
emails
about
it
too,
like
what
and
I've
heard
I'm,
not
sure
what
else
we
could
do.
C
A
I
mean
I've
gotten
multiple
emails
about
that.
Talking
about
what
stage
the
city
is
in
with
that
right
now,
what
they're
going
to
do
moving
forward
got
this
nice
pamphlet
about
what
all
has
been
done,
why
it
stopped
now
what's
going
to
happen
and
I
don't
feel
like
any
of
that
was
done
for
the
Air
Park,
even
though
the
knows
that
the
SE
been
like
a
contentious
thing
for
many
years,
not
just
this
year
and
needing
to
appease
so
many
different
groups-
and
you
know
you've
mentioned
that
yourself
Erica.
A
A
B
A
Everybody's
on
Facebook,
so
I
mean
you
could
put
something
on
the
city
Facebook
page,
but
the
little
old
lady
across
the
street
from
me
is
not
on
Facebook,
but
she,
you
know,
will
get
that
little
pamphlet
in
in
her
mail
and
would
be
able
to
see
Facebook
so
I
mean
I,
think
thinking
outside
the
box,
but
utilizing
other
things
that
this.