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From YouTube: City of Clearwater Community Development Board 5/16/23
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Please
remember
to
turn
off
your
cell
phone
so
that
they
not
become
a
distraction
during
the
meeting.
Please
are
trained
from
having
conversations
in
this
room
so
that
we
might
hear
all
of
the
testimony
given
today
to
ensure
a
complete
record
of
this
board's
action.
We
ask
that
each
individual
wishing
to
speak,
including
food
applicant
speaking
to
the
microphone
at
the
podium
in
front
of
us,
clearly
state
your
name
and
spell
your
last
name
for
the
clerk.
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A
Agendas
of
today's
meeting
are
on
the
podium
to
your
left
near
the
entry
door.
Also
on
this
Podium
are
a
roster
of
the
Community
Development
board,
the
list
of
City
staff
experts
and
their
resumes
the
board's
rules
of
procedure
and
the
annual
schedule
of
this
board.
Our
first
order
of
business
is
to
review
and
approve
the
minutes
from
last
month's
meetings.
Do
I
have
a
motion
approved
all
those
in
favor
aye
opposed
at
this
time.
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Grassy
area
that
is
owned
by
the
church,
Saint
Brendan
and
it
always
accumulated
water
and
stood
there
for
for
years
and
years
and
years
and
once
the
aquarium
moved
in
and
needed
more
parking.
They
came
up
with
the
deal
with
the
the
church.
The
aquarium
came
up
and
asked
the
church
if
they
could
park
there.
Well,
the
church
couldn't
accept
that
because
of
the
water
that
was
standing
there,
so
the
church
dumped
several
loads
of
Phil
of
gravel
and
dirt
and
raise
the
elevation
of
that
parking
area
and
here's
some
more
pictures.
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This
board
has
adopted
a
percentage
on
the
format
and
the
consent
items
are
identified
as
such
on
the
agenda
consent.
Agenda
items
are
those
items
for
which
the
Planning
and
Development
Department
recommends
approval.
The
applicant
is
in
agreement
with
any
proposed
conditions
and
no
written
objections
to
the
case
have
been
received
to
date,
items
that
may
be
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
today
by
a
member
of
the
board,
a
member
of
the
staff
or
any
person
in
the
audience
for
questions
or
objections.
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I
will
read
each
item
on
the
consent
agenda
and
if
any
person
wishes
to
remove
this
item
from
the
consent
agenda,
please
so
State
raise
your
hand
and
we
will
remove
it
from
the
consent
agenda.
Items
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
will
be
heard
in
the
regular
order
of
the
meeting
items
that
remain
on
the
consent
agenda
will
approve
with
a
single
vote.
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279
when
work
passage,
the
owner
is
Clearwater.
Marine
Aquarium
city
of
Clearwater
representative
is
Terry
scapeck
Woods,
Consulting,
Inc,
Dunedin,
Florida
location,
the
subject
of
4.526
acre
property
is
located
on
the
south
side
of
Windward
Passage
approximately
250
feet.
West
Island
Way,
the
Community
Development
board
is
reviewing
a
proposed
1150
square
foot
expansion
to
an
existing
commercial
dock
for
the
property
located
at
279
Windward
Passage.
A
A
This
board
has
previously
qualified
all
of
City
staff
who
will
testify
as
experts
in
their
area,
professional
training,
education
and
experience.
The
list
of
City
staff
experts
and
their
resumes
are
in
the
handbook
on
the
podium
near
the
entry
door.
Any
other
professionals
who
desire
to
be
qualified
as
an
expert
witness
so
so
request
at
the
beginning
of
the
case
and
present
a
resume
to
each
board
member.
A
Each
level
2
case
I
will
ask
for
anyone
who
wishes
to
request
party
status
to
come
forward
and
state
your
reasons.
Party
status
may
be
granted
if
the
person
requesting
such
status
demonstrates
that
they
are
substantially
effective
person.
The
board
will
then
determine
whether
or
not
to
Grant
party
status.
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Then
the
case
will
proceed
as
follow
follows
request
for
party
status,
presentation
by
Planning
and
Development
staff,
10
minutes
maximum
presentation
by
the
applicant
10
minutes
maximum
presentation
by
persons
with
party
status,
five
minutes
per
party,
maximum
cross-examination
of
witnesses
by
Planning
and
Development
staff,
cross-examination
of
witnesses
by
applicant
cross-examination
of
witnesses
by
persons
with
party
status
comments
by
the
public
three
minutes
per
person,
closing
remarks
of
the
planning
and
development
staff.
Three
minutes
maximum
closing
remarks
by
persons
granted
party
status.
Three
minutes
maximum
closing
remarks
by
the
applicant
three
minutes
maximum.
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So,
just
to
go
into
that
note,
Quorum
of
the
Quorum
of
five
members
is
required
to
clock
the
business
of
the
board.
The
vote
of
at
least
four
members
is
required
for
action
on
any
item
before
the
board
decision
results
in
a
3-2
vote.
The
matter
shall
automatically
be
continued
to
the
next
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
the
board
for
a
decision.
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Mr
chair
at
this
time,
I
would
ask
that
the
board
except
Mr
Mark
Perry
as
an
expert
witness
and
general
planning,
zoning
and
Redevelopment
planning,
Land
Development
code
and
Land
Development
code
amendments,
special
area
plans
and
overlay
districts,
site
plan,
review,
landscape
architecture
and
all
other
matters.
He
is
about
to
testify
here
on.
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I
Thank
you,
Mark
Perry,
Planning
and
Development.
The
site
is
located
on
the
south
side
of
Windward
Passage.
It's
zoned
commercial,
with
the
underlying
land
use
of
commercial
General.
The
proposed
doc
expansion
will
be
located
on
submerged
line.
Obviously
that's
located
within
the
preservation
zoning
District.
As
we
know,
the
site
has
been
developed
at
the
Clearwater
Marine
Aquarium
and
it
does
include
an
existing
42-slip
Arena.
I
The
Proposal
is
to
replace
an
existing
slip
on
the
far
East
side
of
the
site
slip
one
with
a
new,
fixed
and
floating
dock
arrangement
of
about
1100
square
feet.
It
doesn't
necessarily
expand
the
use
of
the
docks.
It's
a
replacement
and
the
purpose
is
to
provide
ABA
accessible
access
to
boats
before
the
I'm.
Sorry
to
interrupt
you
mark,
but
before
you
do
it
go
on
any
further.
The
objections.
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J
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L
Afternoon
my
name
is
Terry
scapeck,
president
of
woods.
Consulting
our
company
provides
Marine
design
and
Permitting
Services,
been
in
business
for
20
years
now
and
have
worked
through
hundreds
of
different
projects
at
the
municipal
level,
commercial
dock
level,
multi-family
dot
level.
So,
just
to
answer
some
of
your
questions,
I
know
you
started
with
the
first
question
was:
was
the
Upland
development
boarding
meeting
the
Ada
access
pathway
at
this
point
in
time?
L
I
can't
answer
that
I
know
that
the
first
order
of
business
was
to
make
sure
the
dots
could
be
permitted,
because
dog
permitting
is
a
very
challenging
process.
There's
so
many
different
agencies
involved.
We've
got
local
here
at
city
of
Clearwater.
We've
got
Pinellas
only
water
navigation.
We
have
Southwest
Border
Water
Management
District,
who
has
already
issued
their
permit
for
the
stock,
and
we
have
the
US
Army
Corp
Engineers,
who
are
in
review
and
very
soon
expected
to
issue
their
permits.
L
So
the
whole
point
of
starting
with
the
dogs
was
just
because
of
the
numerous
different
agencies.
They
have
to
look
at
site
conditions,
environmental
conditions;
they
even
have
to
do
Manatee
impact
reviews,
there's
so
much.
That
goes
into
that
getting
the
full
bundle
of
permits
together
before
they
would
take
the
next
step
to
make
sure
they
have
this
the
correct
Ada
access
connection
on
land.
L
Ugly,
we
need
to
rotate
it
towards
you.
There
you
go,
so
he
was
just
a
a
group
of
just
what's
proposed,
so
we
we
of
course
have
two
components
to
this
Dock
and
that's
because
not
everybody
that's
going
to
be
using
this
dock
is
Ada,
but
they
want
to
make
sure
that
people
that
do
need
Ada
have
the
ability
to
have
the
Ada.
So
what
you're
seeing
is
the
four
foot
wide
gangway
with
just
a
22
foot,
long
ramp?
L
That's
just
so
that
the
person
that
doesn't
need
that
extra
Ada
can
get
quicker
access
onto
the
dock
and
then
the
longer
route
with
the
upper
fixed
dock,
the
smaller
gangway,
the
larger
fixed
dock
landing
and
then
the
longer
45
foot
Ada
gain
weight.
That
system
to
the
right
in
this
picture
is
going
to
allow
for
those
with
Ada
to
have
all
the
proper
components
to
get
out
to
the
mains
learning
dock.
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F
L
That's
correct
the
city
and
those
are
another
one
of
your
questions.
The
city
of
Clearwater
is
the
submerged
land
owner.
The
Clearwater
Marine
Aquarium
Outlet
is
owned
separately
by
the
Clearwater
Marine
Aquarium
and
I
know
that
they
had
actually
slated
this
project
for
several
years
ago
and
sued
to
cost
and
funding.
It
was
only
just
until
last
year
that
we
were
given
the
go-ahead
to
take
it
to
pernadine.
So
I
know
that
there
was
a
period
of
time
where
they
were.
L
L
L
Oh
I'm,
sorry
like,
if
you're
just
going
there
for
the
day
to
go,
visit
the
aquarium.
No
sir,
no
there's
not
their
taxi
cert.
There's
there's
slips
that
are
used.
They
have
taxi
boats
that
bring
their
guests
in
from
different
locations.
They
have
some
slopes
that
they
rent
out
to
the
Quality
boat
business
next
door.
They
have
a
few
slips
that
they
run
out
to
the
public
they're
available,
and
then
they
have
this
now
for
their
to.
You
know
for
their
Eco
tour
boat
to
be
Ada.
So.
K
F
B
There
go
ahead,
I
have
one
question
that
came
into
me
with
this
proposed
you're
being
put
in
there
and
this
being
like
a
offloading
loading
area,
and
you
have
the
restaurant,
relatively
Island
Way
grow
relatively
close
by
to
it.
You
said
during
this
that
that
slip
currently
is
just
like
a
storage
slip
where
they
keep
their
kayaks
or
whatever.
If
the
people
are
going
in
and
out,
and
this
boat
is
going
in
and
out
in
a
regular
basis,
the
fumes
and
the
gas
and
everything
you've
got
people
eating
right
outside.
L
B
L
And
I've
been
on
that
boat
several
times
now,
with
Captain
George
and
there's
I've
never
experienced
any
fumes
whatsoever.
When
I've
been
on
that
boat,
he
actually
gave
me
a
tour
of
the
area
kind
of
was
like
you
know.
He
actually
helped
me
and
the
crew
get
a
bunch
of
depth
measurements
just
to
make
sure
we
had
good
depth
out
there
and
so
yeah
I
never
had
that
experience.
I
was
on
the
go
at
least
three
times:
okay
I
just.
I
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that,
from
a
zoning
standpoint,
the
only
aspect
of
ADA
that
we
typically
look
at
are
number
of
parking
spaces.
So
from
a
from
a
zoning
standpoint,
certainly
at
a
cdb
level
of
review,
we
don't
we
don't
look
at
ADA
requirements,
that's
really
under
the
purview
of
the
building
department
and
the
building
officials.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
H
A
A
2023-03002
at
2680,
Landmark
Drive,
the
owner
is
Heritage
United,
Methodist,
Church,
Countryside,
Inc
representative,
the
name
kreik
or
casarjan,
and
Robert
pergolozzi
Gulf
Coast
Consulting
location
is
8.630
Acres,
consisting
of
one
parcel
located
at
the
southwest
corner
of
Landmark
Drive
and
State
Road
580
to
be
planted
into
two
separate
Parcels
parcel
one
to
the
north
and
will
be
acres
and
parcel
2
to
the
South
will
be
4.68.
Acres
development
board
is
reviewing
a
two
lot
preliminary
plant
and
amendment
to
our
previously
approved
site
plan.
Fld2009-02002.
A
The
project
is
less
than
50
feet
in
height,
provides
a
minimum
of
140
off-street
parking
spaces
and
requests
allowable
flexibility
from
setbacks.
Off-Street
parking
and
Landscape
requirements
associations
are
to
Clearwater
neighborhoods
Coalition
Board
of
County
Commissioners
Pinellas
County
school
board,
Northwood
West
homeowners
association,
signed
planners
Melissa,
Hawk
Baker.
N
Please
thank
you.
Chris
curvin
c-u-r-v-I-n
orthwood,
Presbyterian,
Church
I'm,
the
pastor
there
of
the
of
the
different
organizations
you
mentioned
in
that
last.
The
last
statement
you
made.
We
were
the
ones
that
were
not
listed
and
we're
yet
on
the
the
dean,
the
warranty
deed
for
the
Ingress
egress
as
Westminster
Presbytery.
H
H
H
K
P
K
It
consists
right
now
of
One
parcel
and,
as
you
see
on
the
rendering
that's
on
the
screen,
the
Blue
Area
represents
the
zoning
District,
which
is
institutional.
The
subject
property
is
within
the
subject
in
the
institutional
zoning
district,
with
a
future
land
use
of
institutional,
the
surrounding
area,
predominantly
residential,
consisting
of
detached
dwellings
within
the
low
medium
density,
residential
zoning
District
Italy
to
the
south
of
the
subject.
Property
is
the
Lila
Davis
Elementary
School,
which
is
also
in
the
institutional
zoning
District,
as
well
as
to
the
north
west
of
the
subject.
K
K
It
is
now
going
to
officially
give
each
lot
a
plot,
a
reference
as
well
as
there
was
a
condition
of
approval
under
the
prior
level
two,
and
that
was
for
a
Unity
of
title,
and
so
this
will
now
release
the
unity
up.
Title
The
parcel
number
one
which
is
shown
on
the
screen
is
lot
one
that
will
be
retained
by
Heritage
United
Methodist
Church
and
it
will
be
3.95
acres
and
parcel
2
to
the
South
is
the
subject
property
site,
which
will
be
redeveloped
from
the
existing
church
school
into
a
medical
clinic.
K
Moving
on
the
existing
property
survey
is
being
shown
to
give
you
a
point
of
reference
to
what
the
site
looks
like
now,
and
the
access
drive
that
runs
along
the
northern
edge
of
the
subject
property
that
access
Drive
will
remain.
It
will
also
be
maintained
so
that
the
neighboring
properties
to
the
north
Heritage
UMC,
as
well
as
Northwood
Presbyterian,
will
be
able
to
maintain
access
to
that.
One
of
the
major
differences
with
the
proposed
project
is,
you
will
see
now
the
site
plan.
K
The
access
to
Landmark
Drive
is
going
to
be
shifted
slightly
to
the
South
so
that
it
lines
up
with
Haverford
Drive,
which
is
immediately
to
the
east.
Haverford
Drive
goes
into
the
residential
area,
and
what
this
will
do
is
create
a
better
access
point,
and
that
is
something
that
our
traffic
engineering
folks
will
be
able
to
speak
to
and
I
don't
know.
If
Omar
do
you
want
to
come
up
right
now
to
thank
you.
Q
So
as
part
of
our
review,
this
is
a
development
that
required
a
traffic
impact
study
and,
as
part
of
the
trafficking
Tech
study,
a
methodology
report
was
required
to
some
be
submitted
by
the
consultant.
This
was
reviewed
and
approved
in
a
traffic
study
was
completed
and
we
are
at
the
city
accepting
the
the
revised
traffic
in
Pakistani
after
we
have
after
it
was
submitted,
and
one
of
the
comments
was
to
realign
access
of
the
development
tool.
That's
three
to
provide
better
visibility,
safer
maneuverability
at
that
intersection.
Q
That
intersection
is
close
to
a
signalized
intersection,
which
is
on
State
Route,
but
80
and
Landmark
Drive.
So
as
a
left-hand
movement
will
have
the
opportunity
to
to
to
access
into
the
private
development
and
into
the
neighborhood,
the
city
will
definitely
monitor
that
intersection
for
future
safety
concerns.
If
there
is
anything,
but
we
see
that
currently,
the
proposal
as
submitted
is
acceptable.
K
K
There
will
be
a
total
of
98
parking
spaces
which
comes
to
the
total
of
140
spaces
on
the
subject,
property,
the
cross,
access
and
shared
parking
agreement
will
enable
users
of
this
property,
as
well
as
Heritage
United
Methodist
Church,
where
there
are
approximately
155
parking
spaces
that
they
will
be
able
to
use
each
other's
parking
lots
as
they
see
fit.
The
proposed
Medical
Clinic
is
going
to
be
Advanced,
Urology
Institute
and,
of
course,
they
operate
a
normal
business
hours
Monday
through
Friday
8
A.M
to
5
p.m,
and
they
do
not
have
overnight
capacity.
K
They
do
mostly.
You
know,
Dr
visits
and
minor
outpatient
procedures,
so
the
parking
will
be
available
to
the
church
on
the
weekends
when
predominantly
they
may
need
to
have
additional
spaces.
Likewise,
the
proposed
use
will
be
operating
Monday
through
Friday
when
predominantly
the
church
property
will
not
be
necessarily
as
busy,
so
the
two
will
be
able
to
benefit
from
one
another.
K
One
of
the
other
improvements
that
they
are
going
to
do
is
produce
or
provide
a
covered,
drop-off
point
along
the
north
side
of
the
building
and
that
will
be
designed
to
blend
in
with
the
architecture
of
the
existing
building.
There
are
also
proposing
to
provide
extensive
Landscaping.
The
code
requires
landscape
buffers
along
property
lines
and
the
requirement
along
the
east
property
line
along
Landmark
Drive.
The
buffer
will
be
expanded
to
15
feet
in
width,
which
is
what
the
code
requires.
K
K
They
submitted
a
comprehensive
landscape
program,
application
simply
for
the
fact
that
their
Northern
property
line
is
encumbered
with
that
existing
access
drive,
so
they
cannot
physically
provide
the
required
Landscaping
within
that
area.
The
comp
Landscaping
application
allows
them
to
take
that
what
would
be
a
five
foot
required
buffer
amounting
to
just
under
three
thousand
square
feet
of
landscaping,
and
they
are
going
to
incorporate
that
throughout
the
remainder
of
the
site.
In
addition
to
the
vehicular
cross
access,
there
is
a
pedestrian
cross
access
that
provides
a
connection
between
the
subject
property
and
the
layer.
K
R
Thank
you
Mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
board.
My
name
is
Sergeant
I'm,
an
engineer
and
principal
with
Golf
Course
Consulting
we're
the
applicants
for
the
Heritage
United
Methodist
Church
on
the
plat
and
also
adventurology
for
the
site.
Melissa
did
a
great
presentation.
I,
don't
want
to
use
up
too
much
time,
but
just
kind
of
go
through
some
bullet
points.
Mr.
C
H
J
R
Of
the
bullet
points
just
want
to
go
quickly
over
just
we
will
be
replacing
the
private
school
that
is
on
the
Heritage
United
Methodist
Church
campus
with
a
medical
clinic
office.
The
church
is
selling
the
southern
4.68
acres
for
evangiology.
In
this
institute
to
operate
a
medical
clinic
office,
the
entire
property
has
institutional
land,
use
and
institutional
zoning,
and
and
will
remain
as
such.
The
medical
clinic
office
is
a
permitted
use
in
the
in
the
institutional
zoning
District.
R
We
will
be
using
the
existing
building,
so
the
building
setbacks
are
very
large,
we're
providing
140
parking
spaces
on
site
which
exceeds
the
106
spaces
necessary
for
the
ite
caps
in
the
parking
assessment
that
was
provided.
So
we
just
request
your
approval
and
recommendation
from
staff
and
I
am
available
for
any
questions.
S
Good
afternoon,
robertolizzi
principal
with
Gulf,
Coast,
Consulting
and
I've,
been
recognized
by
the
board
as
an
expert
in
land
use,
planning
and
transportation
planning
for
20
years
now,
I'm
just
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
traffic
as
Supreme
Court
mentioned
and
Melissa
mentioned,
replacing
the
private
school
with
medical
clinic
as
you've
heard
before
we're
realigning
the
driveway
to
align
with
Haverford
Drive,
as
suggested
by
your
staff,
which
removed
the
existing
offset
and
creates
a
safer
intersection
right
now.
These
these
they're
about
60
or
70
feet
apart.
S
So
you
got
left,
turns
Crossing
each
other,
as
Omar
suggested
we're
aligning
the
driveways,
which
is
access
management
101.
We
conducted
a
detailed
traffic
study,
as
required
by
staff
for
am
and
P
and
Peak
periods
drivers.
We
did
counts
at
the
site,
driveways
and
nearby
intersections
up
at
the
signal
at
580.
All
the
way
down
to
the
signal
at
Enterprise.
All
the
intersections
operator
level
service
D
during
or
better
during
peak
hours
and
the
adjacent
segment
of
Landmark
Drive
operates.
S
S
This
is
not
a
significant
traffic
impact
on
a
four-lane
roadway.
We
analyzed
the
future
conditions
upon
the
opening
and
then
even
five
years
beyond
the
opening,
as
Mr
Attalla
required,
and
we
would
still
be
at
level
service,
D
or
better
at
the
intersections
and
level
of
service
D
on
Landmark
Drive.
So
creeporn
and
I
are
here
to
answer
any
questions.
We
did
speak
with
the
pastor
of
northward
Presbyterian.
He
has
an
access
easement
that
runs
along
the
driveway
into
the
back
end
of
his
church.
S
That's
what
he
is
and
that
access
easement
will
remain
it'll
just
be
realigned
with
the
new
driveway,
so
he'll
continue
to
have
access
and
that's
a
requirement
of
the
final
plot,
which
would
have
to
be
approved
by
city
council
this
summer.
So
we've
assured
him
that
he's
going
to
continue
to
have
that
access.
S
S
Check
this
out,
and
actually
we
did
a
parking
assessment
using
ite
parking
generation.
Our
parking
requirement
for
ite
is
actually
106
parking
spaces
and
we've
got
140
on
our
site,
but
the
code
requirement
is
164,
which
is
why
we're
in
for
performing.
We
feel
we
have
more
than
enough
parking
on
our
site
without
having
to
use
the
church
parking
during
the
weekdays,
but.
J
N
I've
been
Pastor
there
for
17
years
at
Northwood,
Presbyterian,
church
and
I
guess
it
was
about
a
decade
ago.
Heritage
proposed
the
education
building
that
you
see
now
that's
going
to
be
converted
at
that
time
we
had
a
number
of
meetings.
We
did
not
feel
there
was
enough
parking
available
for
the
traffic
and
the
footprint
of
the
building
on
that
property.
M
N
N
Now
that
this
is
going
to
be
added,
what
I
wanted
to
add
to
request
to
be
orderly
about
this
is
to
again
to
be
given
party
status
to
the
Declaration
for
rights
to
the
Ingress
and
egress.
In
the
document,
that's
been
written
for
the
Declaration
between
those
two
parcels
that
we'd
be
added
to
the
third
party
for
rights
and
entitlements
to
that
Ingress
of
egress
I
left
out
of
the
current
document.
That's
proposed,
so
you
have
am
I.
Looking
at
that
right
now.
Just
for
clarity,
you.
A
J
N
C
The
board
this
board
has
the
ability
to
receive
Mr
Kerman
as
a
party
status
relative
to
this
application,
but
in
terms
of
private
agreements,
real
estate,
Deeds
easements,
the
board
has
no
ability
to
do
that.
I
would
certainly
urge
Mr
kervin
or
the
others
to
obtain
legal
representation
if
that's
desired,
so
they
can
work
it
out
amongst
themselves,
but
this
board
doesn't
have
any
authority
to
or
jurisdiction
to,
to
intrude
into
those
those
agreements.
N
C
N
C
N
Some
comment
on
them
coming
back
when
they
rebutt
back
up
here
on
that
okay,
so
I
mentioned
the
the
Ingress
egress
that
that
what
happens
in
the
past
10
years,
what
we
have
seen
with
the
new
building
is
when
the
elementary
school
empties
out-
and
this
is
both
when
it
opens
in
the
morning
and
exits
or
school
ends
every
day,
all
the
property
backs
up
here
and
we
have
a
lot
of
traffic.
That
comes
only
this
way,
because
this
comes
up
to
the
stoplight.
It
only
goes
east,
so
people
come
here.
N
They
come
around,
they
Park
here
and
get
their
children
through
access
here.
This
also
happens
in
the
morning
people
cut
through
in
order
to
park
here
to
walk
their
children
to
school,
because
there's
so
much
traffic
we're
a
seven
day
a
week
church,
and
so
it
also
happens
when
we
have
big
events.
Our
parking
fills
up
in
this
area.
What
we
found
in
practice
is
this
area
is
often
used
for
both
parking
by
staff
in
the
school
and
for
events.
N
There
there's
parking
here
and
so
we're
not
entered
into
the
agreement
for
parking
but
I,
just
kind
of
wonder
what
what
sort
of
problem
is
being
created
when
this
becomes
a
new
easement
road
for
the
two.
These
two
part
parties,
because
this
is
the
only
exit
out-
you
can't
get
out
the
other
way
you
have
to
come
through
Northwood.
N
Because
we
now
we
have
signed,
we,
we
we're
good
neighbors.
We
have
been
good
neighbors
for
many
years,
we've
been
there
35
years
and
they've
been
there
about
the
same
length
of
time,
but
we
we
respect
each
other's
property.
We
don't
park
in
each
other's
apartment.
For
events
we
have
similar,
we
have
exact
worship
times
on
Sunday
and
other
events
during
the
week
and
concerts
too
many
to
mention
so
this.
This
is.
This
is
needed
parking
for
us
we're
not
in
an
agreement
with
the
medical
clinic
for
this
to
be
used.
N
N
A
N
A
Left
out,
the
only
thing
I
could
say
to
that
is
that
your
church
property,
the
property.
There
is
not
part
of
the
application
itself
and
correct
me
if
I
say
something
wrong:
Jay,
please,
but
if
whether
you're
Ingress
and
egress
easement
agreement
gives
you
just
the
unilateral
right
to
that
driveway
to
get
to
Landmark
Drive
or
if
it's
crossed
back
and
forth,
I'm,
not
privy
to
it
or
the
board,
isn't
either
so
I
think
that
would
be
something
that.
N
J
S
This
may
be
new
news:
okay,
Robert
fertilizi,
for
the
record.
Okay,
we
are
self-contained.
We
have
parking
on
our
property
for
the
amount
of
parking
we
would
generate
for
the
medical
clinic
to
meet
ite
standards
to
meet
City
standards.
We
would
be
using
parking
from
the
from
the
owner
of
our
course
Heritage
United
Methodist
Church.
We
had
no
intention
nor
right
to
be
using
the
parking
of
the
great
Pastor
here
on
Northwood
Presbyterian
Church
right.
S
Now,
there's
an
access
easement
and
we
are
going
to
continue
to
maintain
that
access
he's
been
as
I
testified
and
as
far
as
New
York,
wood,
Presbyterian
being
part
of
an
agreement
with
Heritage
United,
Methodist
Church
and
the
Advanced
Urology
Institute.
They
can
do
that
as
a
private
agreement,
and
we
have
no
objection.
We
will
certainly
recommend
to
our
client
to
go
ahead
and
do
that
as
Mr
Daniel
stated.
It's
not
anything.
S
S
J
S
U
U
V
Also,
as
you
know,
in
my
day,
job
I
I
do
land
use
planning
as
an
attorney
and
I
can
tell
you
that
you've
got
competent,
substantial
evidence
from
not
just
Mr
pergolizzi
but
also
Mr
Attalla,
and
it
sounds
like
any
of
the
concerns.
The
pastor
has
are
private
party
concerns
that
can
be
addressed
by
the
parties
and
I
know
they'll.
Do
that
in
good
faith?
Thank
you.
A
A
I
mean
I
could
speak
previously
too.
Sorry,
I
just
want
to
Echo
a
little
bit
too
and
I
I
feel
everything
that
you're
saying
and
but
I
do
think.
It
was
represented
that
what
you're
talking
about
is
a
private
matter
and
it's
nothing
that
the
board
has
the
authority
to
approve
or
disapprove
on
it.
Unfortunately,
I
wish.
We
could
resolve
it
here
today,
but
the
parties
that
are
a
part
of
it
are
here
in
this
room
and
you
have
to
their
names
and
contact
number
and
out
to
you
to
resolve
this
issue.
A
T
H
A
A
The
Community
Development
board
is
reviewing
an
application
for
two
detached
dwellings
and
determination
of
status
as
a
non-conformity
for
density
for
two
to
death
dwelling
units
where
the
maximum
permitted
density
is
one
detached
dwelling
unit
in
the
medium
density,
residential
district
for
the
property
located
at
869
Bruce
Avenue.
The
project
includes
four
off-street
parking
spaces
and
requests
allowable
flexibility
from
termination
of
status
as
a
non-conformity
for
density
and
allowable
reduction
to
setback
requirements,
associations,
Clearwater,
neighborhoods,
Coalition,
Board
of
County
Commissioners,
Pinellas,
County
school
board,
Clearwater
Beach,
Association,
sign
planners
Mark,
T,
Perry
senior,
planner.
G
Staff
Mr
chair
at
this
time,
I'd
ask
that
the
board
except
Mr
Mark
Perry
as
an
expert
witness
and
general
planning
zoning
Redevelopment
planning,
Lane
development
and
Lane
development
code
amendments,
special
area
plans
in
overlay,
District
site
plan,
review,
landscape
architecture
and
all
that
matters.
He
is
about
to
testify
here
on.
I
Aye
opposed
very
thank
you,
Mark
Perry,
Planning
and
Development.
The
site
is
located
on
the
east
side
of
Bruce
Avenue,
it's
within
the
lmdr
zoning
District
and
the
residential
Urban
future
land
use
planning
classification
which
allows
7.5
dwelling
units
per
acre
or
one
dwelling
unit
as
permitted
as
a
matter
of
right
for
the
subject
site.
I
0.176
Acre
Site
has
been
developed
with
two
single-family
detached
well
and
single
story.
Detached
dwellings,
they've
conducted
extensive
research
into
the
history
of
the
site.
However,
due
to
the
age
of
the
development,
some
of
the
permit
details
remain
unclear.
The
first
dwelling
constructed
on
the
side
is
located
on
the
west
side
of
the
site.
It
was
constructed
sometime
around
1935..
The
second
structure
located
on
the
east
side
of
the
site
was
permitted
around
1947..
There
is
no
evidence
that
the
second
structure
was
ever
legally
constructed
as
a
dwelling
unit.
I
I
Again,
though,
there
are
permits
for
the
structures
in
our
records.
There
is
no
evidence
that
the
second
structure
was
legally
established.
As
a
dwelling
unit,
Pinellas
County,
Property
Appraisal
records
indicate
that
this
block
this
general
area
was
developed
between
the
1930s
and
the
1970s.
Nearly
all
the
properties
in
the
area
include
one
deep
dwelling.
I
I
I
I
The
Proposal
is
inconsistent
with
several
provisions
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
including
table
A1,
which
lists
that
the
permitted
density
of
7.5
units
per
acre,
where
over
11
units
per
acre
or
per
post,
one
volume,
is
allowed
as
a
matter
of
right.
The
plan
is
also
very
clear
that
permanent
population
densities
in
the
coastal
storm
area
shall
not
be
increased.
This
is
also
consistent
with
the
county
guard
fields.
I
I
I
I
So
these
are
some:
the
rod
is
the
average
size
for
the
community.
Nearly
all
the
properties
in
the
area
are
conforming.
With
regard
to
density,
there
is
no
record
for
a
termination
of
status
of
non-conformity
approved
in
this
area.
There
is
no
evidence
that
the
two
units
were
ever
legally
permitted.
I
I
V
M
V
Have
Mr
Jeremy
Stevens,
who
is
a
residential
designer?
He
is
not
an
architect,
so
I'm
just
tendering
him
as
a
fact
witness.
If
you
have
any
questions
about
the
elevations
and
with
that
we're
ready
to
begin
so
Mr
chair
members
of
the
board,
this
is
Brian
August
again.
We
are
here
asking
for
the
board
to
approve
a
level
to
approval,
to
terminate
an
existing
non-conformity
as
to
density.
Something
that's
extremely
important
to
point
out
is:
we
are
not
asking
to
increase
density
in
the
CSA.
V
That
density
is
there
and
has
been
there
and
has
been
permitted
by
the
city
since
the
1940s
since
1947.,
there
are
three
structures
that
currently
exist.
What
we're
doing
is
we're
decreasing
the
footprint
of
an
existing
non-conformity,
which
is
exactly
what
the
termination
of
non-conformity
provision
was
meant
for
in
your
code
in
the
packet
I
have
two
very
important
pieces
of
your
code
for
you
to
look
at
when
you
have
time,
one
are
the
actual
approval
criteria
for
terminating
a
non-conformity.
V
V
Section
K
of
your
comprehensive
plan
specifically
addresses
protecting
property
rights
and
making
sure
that
property
rights,
including
the
right
of
property
owner
to
use,
maintain,
develop
and
approve
his
or
her
property
are
part
of
land
use
decisions.
So
those
are
two
very
important
areas
for
you
to
look
at
respectfully.
The
only
disagreement
we
have
with
staff
is
whether
we
meet
the
criteria
for
approval
of
the
non-conforming
uses
which
have
been
there
when
I
say
it's
been
permitted.
V
These
business
tax
receipts
have
been
issued
by
the
city,
including
one
in
2022
for
two
dwelling
units.
That's
in
the
application
that
so
currently,
this
property
has
a
business
tax
receipt
for
two
dwelling
units.
It
also
has
two
addresses
from
the
U.S
Postal
Service
personal
alien
parcel
B.
So
what
we're
doing
is
taking
non-code
compliant
structures
that
are
unsafe,
that
are
flood
prone,
that
don't
drain
properly
and
we're
bringing
them
up
to
code.
V
Increasing
the
property
values
increasing
the
tax
base
within
the
neighborhood
consistent
with
the
new
development
that
has
been
developed
in
the
neighborhood
and
simply
allowing
the
angles
to
use
for
a
single
family
use
the
two
dwelling
units
that
they
purchased
when
they
bought
the
property
they
met
with
the
staff
and
the
staff
simp
in
the
application
and
said
you
can
apply
to
Terminator
non-conformity
when
they
hired
me.
I
said
this
will
be
easy.
You've
already
talked
to
the
staff,
and
unfortunately,
here
we
are
with
our
respectful
disagreement.
They
have
a
large.
V
Have
three
adult
children
each
so
six
total
and
the
purpose
of
the
two
dwelling
units
is
to
allow
for
their
two
families
to
lose
on
the
same
single
family
property.
So
what
we're
doing
is
we're
increasing
the
existing
front
setback
from
5.4
feet
to
18
feet.
We're
increasing
the
existing
rear,
set
back
from
four
feet
to
10
we're
increasing
the
existing
side,
setback
on
the
north
from
1.6
feet
to
nine
and
we're
increasing
the
side
setback
on
the
south
from
four
feet
to
8.35,
all
of
which
comply
with
code.
V
Existing
conditions-
these
are
the
three
structures
with
the
current
setbacks
that
are
non-conforming
right
up
against
the
other
properties
and
look
at
the
property
directly
behind
our
property.
It's
a
three-story
home.
What
we're
proposing
is
consistent
with
all
the
new
development
patterns
in
the
neighborhood
and
there's
an
accessory
structure.
That's
just
inches
off
our
properties.
So
what
we're
doing
is
increasing
the
setback
decreasing
the
footprint
of
an
existing
non-conformity.
V
Y
S
As
Brian
mentioned,
we're
looking
to
re-establish
two
single-family
detached
homes
on
the
property,
the
lot
is
slightly
wider
than
most
other
Lots.
It
has
66.8
feet
of
Frontage,
where
most
other
Lots
in
the
area
have
only
only
50
to
60
feet
of
Frontage.
Property
currently
has
two
residential
units
of
primary
residence
in
front
and
a
secondary
residence
in
the
rear
of
the
lot.
We
are
not
increasing
the
density,
it
already
exists
and
we
meet
the
requirements
for
the
determination
of
the
non-conformity.
S
As
Mr
wrongs
explained,
the
existing
structures
were
constructed
well
before
any
female
regulations
went
into
effect
and
the
FEMA
flood
zone
is
ae9
the
sites
at
3.1
feet
above
sea
level
ground.
So
this
would
be
inundated
with
six
feet
of
water
if
we
got
a
100
Year
storm
and
yes,
it
is
in
the
coastal,
High
Hazard
area,
hurricane
evacuation,
Zone,
a
most
of
the
homes
in
the
neighborhood,
were
developed
in
the
1950s
and
1960s
prior
to
FEMA
regulations.
S
The
surrounding
neighborhood
consists
of
older,
smaller
cellular
family
detached
homes
with
a
few
newer,
larger
homes
that
include
two
and
three-story
structures
that
are
starting
to
crop
up
in
the
area
in
complete
compliance
with
FEMA
floodplain
standards.
The
ground
level
is
nothing
but
garage
and
storage
space,
because
that's
really
all
it
can
be,
and
that's
what
we're
proposing
here.
It's
anticipated
that
several
properties
in
the
area
will
redevelop
and
will
remove
the
older
one-story
homes
and
rebuild
new
two
and
two-story
homes
that
comply
with
FEMA
requirements.
S
Well,
there's
the
survey
showing
the
existing
setbacks
and
our
price
plan
here
again
redeveloping
into
two
deep
detached
rolling
units
will
contain
Landscaping
buildings
that
comply
with
current
building
codes
and
building
setbacks
that
comply
with
the
lmdr
standards,
with
the
exception
of
the
front
setback,
which
is
currently
only
5.4
feet,
as
you
saw
in
the
aerial
to
18
feet
where
25
is
the
requirement
and
as
Brian
stated
and
the
staff
report
States,
they
have
no
objection
to
the
18-foot
front
setback.
There's
plenty
of
president.
S
We
have
an
18-foot
front
setbacks
which
allows
parking
for
cars
in
the
driveway
as
well
as
in
the
garage
we
have
a
side.
Setback
on
the
north
of
a
farm
is
five
feet.
We
got
8.96
feet
the
side.
Setback
on
the
south
four
feet
exists,
the
requirement
is
five
feet:
we've
got
8.35
feet
and
then
the
rear
set
back
is
10
feet.
Meeting
the
the
code
minimum
requirement.
S
W
S
As
of
right
construction,
we
developed
this
concept
layout
as
to
what
could
be
built
on
this
property
in
full
compliance
with
the
code.
As
you
see,
we've
got
our
front
set
back
at
25
feet,
a
slide
set
by
the
only
five
feet
and
a
rear
setback
of
10
feet,
and
we
are
not
exceeding
these
65
ISR
and
the
maximum
height
30
feet
above
design
flood
elevation,
which
would
be
38
feet
above
the
ground.
S
So
essentially
they
could
do
a
three-story
box
with
the
ground
floor,
being
4,
400
square
feet
of
garage
and
storage
and
then
second
and
third
floor,
each
being
4
400
square
feet
each
for
a
total
of
8
800
square
feet
of
living
area,
a
gross
building
area
of
Thirteen
thousand
two
hundred,
by
contrast
on
our
site
plan.
If
you
want
to
go
to
the
site
plan,
we
feel
we've
got
a
much
better
plan
with
a
landscape,
Court
board
and
pool
area,
an
open
deck,
larger
setbacks
than
what
is
required.
Y
Y
We
love
Clearwater,
a
single
parent
raising
my
kids,
who
wanted
this
house
I
want
to
have
my
children
have
a
house
near
our
facility
and
we've
done
that
with
this
week.
That's
where
I've
been
bought
the
property
two
houses,
because
when
they
get
married
so
far
two
of
them
have
lived
with
us
and
we
let
them
now
now
not
pay
any
rent
and
I
know
I
gotta
go
thank
you,
but
it's
it's
for
our
family
and
to
keep
the
kids
with
us.
Thank.
V
You
so
in
brief,
we
believe
we
provide
a
competent
substantial
evidence
to
give
the
board
a
basis
to
respectfully
disagree
with
the
staff
and
approve
the
termination
of
the
non-conforming
density,
which
has
been
permitted
for
years,
just
as
you
would
for
any
hotel
developer
in
any
condo
that
has
ever
come
before
you
and
ask
for
information
on
Conformity.
Thank
you.
AA
V
C
That
would
be
the
rule
on
a
court
of
law.
As
you
know,
we
are
not
in
a
court
of
law,
so
here
we're
required
to
observe
the
fundamental
principles
of
due
process.
I
do
agree
with
Mr
Wrong
said:
if
you're
going
to
permit
the
cross-examination
of
the
city's
own
witnesses
that
you
permit
Mr
rungs
to
likewise
examine
Mr
Perry
on
those
topics.
C
W
J
I
G
S
V
Mr
Perry,
thank
you
for
your
report.
It
was
very
thoughtful
I
just
want
to
reiterate
in
terms
of
your
report.
The
staff
is
not
objecting
to
the
the
print
of
any
of
the
structures
that
are
being
proposed.
I'm.
Sorry,
sir
yeah
that'd
be
great
footprint
of
any
of
the
of
the
structures
that
are
proposed
on
the
site
plan.
V
I
V
Single
family
use
is
permitted
in
the
MDR
zoning
District.
Yes,
and
in
your
staff
report
you,
you
say
that
the
staff
is
not
contesting
or
contending
that
the
termination
of
non-conformity
section
of
the
code
does
not
is
not
available
to
single-family
homeowners
or
people
in
the
lmdr.
Is
that
correct,
correct.
I
V
I
V
And
just
one
other
thing:
well
maybe
a
couple
others,
but
the
proposed
Building
height
is
26
feet
above
develop
a
flight
elevation
where
it
could
go
to
a
maximum
of
30.
Is
that
right?
And
so
do
you
agree
that
what
is
being
proposed
is
less
intense
in
terms
of
square
footage,
covered
square
footage
as
opposed
to
what
could
be
approved
as
of
right
without
any
approval
by
the
board.
I.
I
V
A
AB
This
is
where
the
Angels
supposed
to
build
two
homes
and
a
30
foot
high.
The
house
they
showed
behind
their
house
is
not
a
street
story
house.
It
is
a
two-story
house,
that's
number
one
as
far
as
two
they
have
an
A
and
B
address
that
at
that
residence,
there's
only
one
electric
media
and
one
water
meter,
so
I
don't
see
how
it
could
be
two
separate
homes
there
at
any
time.
AB
It
might
have
been
a
rental
of
something
that
it's
not
very
big
into
be
able
to
build
that
and
it
just
doesn't
conform
with
the
neighborhood
I
mean
it.
Might
it
it's
an
improvement
if
you
want
to
say
that,
but
our
neighborhood
is
very
quaint,
quiet
everybody's,
you
know
gets
along
and
I
worry
about
to
just
send
a
precedent
for
some
somebody
else
to
do
the
same
for
rentals,
which
would
really
change
the
neighborhood,
so
I
I
hope
you
will
deny
this
and
thank
you
for
listening.
Thank
you.
J
AC
All
the
homes
have
the
same
setback
and
all
the
homes
are
one
resident.
One
dwelling
on
each
property
and
another
concern.
I
have
is
density.
We
have
a
major
flooding
problem
on
that
street.
It's
a
very
low-lying
area
of
Clearwater
Beach
whenever
we
get
heavy
rain,
our
streets
and
our
yards
flood
and
look
like
a
lake
and
sometimes
the
house
is
even
flood
and
I'm
concerned
that
the
density
size
of
these
homes
will
make
the
water
that
would
normally
flow
into
that
property
flow
into
the
neighboring
properties,
causing
them
a
problem.
AC
AD
The
the
residential
area
of
North
Beach
is
very
small
on
the
west
side
is
predominantly
high-rise
buildings
homes
to
the
very
wealthy
on
the
right
side,
overlooking
the
Clearwater
channel
is
basically
iron
rice
houses
with
equally
expensive
homes,
the
center
section,
which
is
very
narrow
and
narrows,
as
it
goes
further
north
and
this
property
is
in
the
northern
section.
Excuse
me
and
it
is
very
narrow
and
is
a
mostly
smaller
homes
in
the
1200
to
1800
1900
square
foot
capacity.
AD
AD
AD
Small
homes
include
residential
and
doing
away
with
their
parking,
so
therefore
parking
on
their
entrance
waste
to
their
ground
horses
in
lieu
of
putting
the
car
in
the
proper
garage.
This
property,
apparently,
is
going
to
be
over
the
normal
density
of
people
that
normally
live
in
this
area,
which
are
single
people.
There
are
not
many
children
around
this
area.
There
are
middle
class
people
in
this
section
and
they
basically
not
child
age
people
they
problem.
Is
they
Park?
AD
AD
We
have
never
seen
anything
like
that
before
it
is
getting
to
be
a
problem,
and
people
are
parking
more
and
more.
The
more
people,
the
more
automobiles
apart
on
the
streets
which
do
not
accommodate
in
their
width
of
parking
and
also
the
access
to
their
houses,
is
getting
limited.
Unlimited,
that's
my
only
part.
Thank
you.
W
W
W
W
Your
car,
because
I
got
to
move
my
car
and
right
now,
like
the
gentleman
over
here,
said
the
streets
are
getting
crazy
and
when
I
go
to
the
beach
there's
no
parking
anymore,
there
used
to
be
Park
MSI
streets.
Now,
there's
no
parking
there.
So
now,
they're
moving
to
my
block
just
yesterday
summer
was
online,
but
on
my
glass
and
they
didn't
want
to
move
my
cold
Department
Authority
and
they
said
I
want
to
says
two
tires
on
the
street:
take
a
pump
on
my
property.
W
It
doesn't
make
sense.
So
now
the
more
people
coming
down
bigger
houses.
It
is
true.
The
streets
are
very
narrow
on
one
of
those
pictures
when
they
showed
the
four
of
the
six
cars.
Is
there
a
sidewalk
where
I
can
walk?
There
is
all
right
and
approach
you're
an
expert
too,
but
I'm
pretty
sure.
If
you
were
that
neighbor
you're
kind
of
be
a
little
different
on
your
assumptions.
W
It's
it's.
We
take
a
step
size
of
these
thousands
and
the
amount
of
people
come
fish.
There's
a
regulation
there's
a
law,
it
should
stay
like
it
is
that's
why
people
move
there
or
stay
there
or
retire
there.
It
happens
one
time
now,
there's
a
house
next
to
it
on
the
other
side
for
sale,
what
happens
if
they
want
to
build
two
houses
and
so
on
and
so
on
it
becomes
like
condo
associate
too
many
people,
so
I
go
I
recommend
that
you
vote
no.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
X
Hi,
my
name
is
Emily
Haas
h-a-a-s-e
I
actually
live
in
one
of
the
houses
that
they
show
for
the
bigger
Corner
houses
in
a
single
family
dwelling
daughter,
we've
been
there
for
my
and
my
son,
my
husband,
we've
been
there
for
10
years
and
I,
don't
see
a
problem
with
the
making
the
house
beautiful.
We
definitely
should
not
stay
as
it
is.
J
X
AE
AF
AF
AF
AF
So,
in
accordance
with
Section
code,
section
4404
the
burden
of
proof
in
a
level
two
case
shall
be
upon
the
applicant
to
demonstrate
to
the
Community
Development
board.
You
you
find
people
that
are
required
criteria
for
approval
or
not,
because
there's
no
justification
why
it
can't
be
used
for
a
single
family,
home
I.
Think
the
burden
of
proof
is
not
met
in
the
application
for
additional
density
fails.
M
AG
Name
is
Andrea
Brown
b-r-o-w-n
I
live
at
866,
Bruce
Avenue,
it's
a
little
bit
right
across
the
street
from
from
the
said,
property
I'm.
Just
really
think
that
if
we
allow
this
to
happen
to
have
the
two
buildings
on
the
property
that
we're
setting
a
precedent
and
I
know,
my
other
neighbors
have
already
said
this.
AG
But
that
really
really
frightens
me,
because
what
will
wind
up
happening
is
that
everybody's
going
to
want
to
build
two
houses
on
their
lots
and
all
of
a
sudden
we've
created
density
that
could
like
just
double
in
the
neighborhood
and
that's
scary,
to
me.
These
people
say
they
want
their
children
there.
But
what
happens
if
their
children
aren't
there?
Okay,
what
happens
if
they
just
turn
it
into
a
rental
properties
and
all
of
a
sudden
we've
got
two
Jillian
party
houses
with
a
big
pool
in
the
in
the
center.
Where
does
that
leave
us?
AG
AG
To
do
that,
because
that
would
really
upset
me
tremendously.
We
have
a
very
very
quiet
street
and
a
very
quiet,
beautiful
neighborhood.
About
two
weeks
ago,
I
ran
into
where
I
met,
I
had
a
nice
Fortune
of
meeting
a
homeowner
new
homeowner
who
just
brought
on
our
street,
and
they
said
they
just
love
the
quiet
of
the
street
and
the
fact
that
they
felt
like
when
they
come,
came
up
and
down
the
street.
It
felt,
like
almost
you
know,
like
Ozzy
and
Harriet
or
Leave
it
to
Beaver.
AG
It
was
just
this
really
homey
street,
with
friendly,
loving
caring
people,
neighbors
such
as
the
ones
that
you've
had
the
great
pleasure
of
meeting
my
neighbors
very
happy
with
them,
but
I
just
fear
that
all
of
a
sudden
this
is
going
to
get
out
of
hand
and
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
going
to
be
a
nuisance,
annoying,
maybe
people
coming
and
going
day
and
night.
That
would
be
just
terrible.
AG
It's
a
beautiful,
wonderful
neighborhood
that
I
hope
we
can
keep
the
Integrity
of
the
residences
of
the
homeowners
of
the
density
and
not
increase
density
and
set
a
precedent
for
others
to
come.
In
and
do
the
same,
so
I
am
hoping
that
you
will
deny
the
approval
for
these
two
structures
and
thank
you
so
much
for
all
of
your
good
work.
Thank
you.
U
Thank
you.
Okay.
Now,
as
we've
heard
from
the
various
presentations,
almost
everything
that
comes
before
you
talks
about
flexibility,
flexibility
to
something
and
when
I
recently
had
a
conversation
with
the
then
mayor
Hibbert.
He
informed
me
that
when
they
moved
to
the
term
flexibility,
the
intention
was
a
give
and
take
on
both
parties
that
the
developer
may
get
some
things,
but
so
would
the
the
neighborhood
and
so
forth.
U
U
Mr
Perry
was
very
clear
in
his
comments
that
this
property
should
be
a
one
density
unit,
property
period
and
I.
Think
that
speaks
to
the
fact
that
in
the
past,
had
there
been
simply
misrepresentations
of
what
in
fact
was
going
there,
that
that
misrepresentation
should
not
be
carried
forward
into
the
future
as
proof
that,
therefore
there
was
in
fact
two
separate
residents
there,
because
we
don't
know
that
was
the
case.
U
I
think
the
the
layout
by
the
architect
is
a
very
fine
layout.
That
really
speaks
to
the
possibility
of.
Could
this
in
fact
be
another
rental
unit
that
they're
simply
putting
on
the
back
when
the
rest
of
the
family
is
not
there,
because
it's
a
very
big
house,
four
bedrooms
in
the
front
and
I
believe
it
is
three
bedrooms
in
in
the
back.
U
The
the
other
thing
that
that
I
would
say
with
regards
to
this
is
simply
the
City
Planning
Department
laid
out
a
very
good
analysis
of
the
rules,
regulations
and
laws
that
were
passed
in
the
were
made
in
the
past
and
to
the
extent
that
those
should
be
followed
so
very
clearly.
This
property
should
in
fact
be
a
one
density,
property
and
I.
Would
I
would
ask
that
you
disapprove
this
application
and
allow
them
to
come
back
sometime
in
the
future?
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
AH
Hi,
yes,
my
name
is
Linda
cabellius
k-u-b-I-l-I-u-s
and
I'm
at
945,
Bruce,
Avenue
I'm,
actually
up
a
few
blocks
from
this
place,
but
the
most
thing
I
am
worried
about
is
putting
two
pieces
of
property
on
that
one
land,
that's
supposed
to
be
one
property,
because,
what's
what's
going
to
happen
next
I'm
worried
about
is
then
what?
If
somebody
else
wants
to
do
this?
Somebody
else
wants
to
do
this
and
I
just
think
the
neighborhood
should
stay
as
a
one
single
property,
not
not
to
on
one
with
the
parking.
AH
That's
another
story,
if
you
start
putting
two
pieces
of
property,
you
know
on
on
just
one
piece
of
land:
that's
another
thing
too,
because
the
parking
right
now
is
horrible.
You
know,
if
you
have
a
few
friends
over
on
the
weekend,
somebody
parks
on
the
other
side
of
the
street.
Behind
my
driveway
somebody's
here
for
me,
I'm
trying
to
get
out
I
mean
I've
I
actually
got
stuck
at
a
neighbor's
one
time
trying
to
get
out
I
could
not
get
out.
I
had
to
I
had
to
wait.
AH
Till
people
came
back
from
the
beach
to
get
out
of
her
house
when
they
had
that
mess
down
on
Bruce,
Avenue
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
remembers
it,
but
it
was
a
mess.
So
I'm
worried
about
the
parking
and
I
would
really
like
the
neighborhood
to
have
just
one
piece
of
property
on
the
property.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
Well,
I
answer
a
few
questions
and
provide
some
clarifications
on
the
applicant's
presentation.
I
would
assert
that
the
request
is
indeed
to
increase
the
intensity
of
use.
As
I
noted
prior
business
tax
receipt
is
just
that
as
a
taxing
mechanism.
It
does
not
imply
permission,
it
doesn't
imply
whether
use
is
permitted
by
the
code
or
not.
It's
simply
a
taxi
mechanism.
I
M
I
That
Mr
aungs
has
never
processed
a
termination
of
status
and
non-conformity
in
this
area
or
that
this
board
is
not
approved.
One
is
that
we
have
never
received
one
if
the
situations
are
different.
Different
zoning
District,
not
in
the
coastal
storm
area,
we
would
have
a
different
discussion,
but
we're
talking
about
a
context
of
this
site
and
the
existing
circumstances.
I
There
is
no
evidence
that
two
units
were
ever
legally
established
on
this
site.
We
have
no
evidence
of
that
with
evidence
of
the
permits,
but
not
of
the
units
existing
does
not
equal
permitted,
there's
a
big
difference.
So
just
the
fact
that
something
exists
here
doesn't
mean
that
it
was
ever
legally
permitted.
Murder.
I
That
it
will
be
permitted
now.
One
of
the
neighbors
did
note-
and
this
is
important-
this
would
create
a
precedent
in
the
area.
We've
never
had
a
termination
of
status
if
not
before
we
come
through
and
we've
never
obviously
approved
one
can
they
still
build
on
the
law?
Yes,
and
that
is
completely
it's
available
with
one
single-family
home
I
noted
earlier.
If
they
need
setbacks
and
impervious
surface
ratio
and
Heights,
they
can
certainly
build
as
instead
of
big
beautiful
home
and
there's
no
issue
with
that.
I
T
I
They
may
not
have
a
full
kitchen
that
would
turn
them
into
a
dwelling
unit,
but
if
these
folks,
for
example,
wanted
to
build
a
pool
house
that
had
a
wreck
bar
and
a
TV
and
a
sheet
shed
or
man
cave
or
something
like
that,
yeah,
that's
permitted.
No,
full
kitchens,
no
nothing
that
would
meet
the
definition
of
a
dwelling
unit.
G
V
V
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman,
the
1999
development
code
put
into
place
a
process
to
terminate
legally
established
non-conformities,
specifically
for
density
on
Clearwater
Beach,
and
that's
because
in
that
code
the
allowable
units
per
acre
for
condos
was
decreased
and
the
allowable
units
per
acre
for
hotels
was
decreased,
and
so
therefore,
there
were
older
hotels
and
condos
older
properties
that
the
city
wanted
to
redevelop
that
were
not
incentivized
to
redevelop
unless
they
could
redevelop,
including
those
older
densities
that
they
had
had.
V
We
have
provided
competent,
substantial
evidence
that
not
only
were
these
units
legally
established
non-conformities,
but
you
should
incentivize
redeveloping
them
up
to
code
so
that
we
comply
with
flood
plain
drainage.
We
comply
with
on-site
parking,
we
comply
with
ISR,
we
are
lower
in
height
and
we
are
greater
in
setbacks
than
we
are
required
to
be,
except
for
the
front
setback
and
the
front
setback.
The
staff
has
an
objection
to
so.
This
is
a
better
alternative
than
the
current
situation,
which
is
uncode
compliant
unsafe
structures
that
are
allowed
to
be
rented
out
as
two
units.
V
V
It's
not
allowed
and
the
alternative
to
continuing
to
operate
it
in
the
dump
environment
that
it
is
as
two
rental
units
is
to
redevelop
it
either
for
this
plan,
which
is
asking
for
7
500
square
feet
with
two
dwelling
units
which
they
have
legally
established
or
to
develop
If,
you
deny
this.
Their
alternative
is
to
continue
to
use
it.
V
The
way
it's
used
or
build
a
13,
200
square
foot,
30
foot
tall
building,
that's
going
to
be
more
impactful,
more
intense
on
the
residents,
and
so
the
whole
point
of
the
termination
on
Conformity
is
to
incentivize
legally
established
density
to
be
redeveloped
to
come
up
to
code.
That's
exactly
what
we're
doing
and
we
respectfully
ask
that
you
approve
the
application
based
on
the
sub,
the
competitional
evidence
provided
and
prior
approvals.
Thank
you.
V
A
County
you
brought
up
something
Pinellas,
County
Property,
Appraisers
page
from
looking
at
that.
Usually
they
have
on
their
when
there's
more
than
one
structure-
I,
don't
it
Whoever
has
access
or
knowledge
of
this
I
would
appreciate
it
so
I'm,
just
opening
it
up
whether
it's
applicant
or
staff
and
I
was
kind
of
property
property.
Appraisers
page
will
have
on
there.
What
the
present
use
is
on
the
property.
Do
they
look
at
this
as
multiple
residential
on
this
site?
Is
it
been
taxed
as
multiple
residential
yeah?
So
we've.
V
F
V
F
V
G
V
I
Pinellas
County
Property
Appraiser
does
not
dictate
nor
establish,
permitted
or
non-permitted
uses.
Their
job
is
to
figure
out
how
much
money
you
have
to
give
them
right.
They
look
at
what
the
uses
are
they
don't
care?
What's
permitted,
it
can
be
a
smelting
plant
in
a
residential
district
but
they're
going
to
tax
you
on
this.
You
know
so
I
always
tell
real
estate
agents
and
well
anyone
that
you,
you
can't
use
the
property
appraisal
records
as
a
litmus
test
as
to
what
is
permitted
or
not
permitted.
I
H
We
open
it
up
for
discussions.
Any
members,
Mr
chairman
I,
might
start
I
want
to
congratulate
the
angles
on
making
a
Stellar
Choice
for
a
place
to
live
I
I.
My
personal
opinion
will
find
a
more
neat,
unique
and
beautiful
place.
The
North
Beach
Clearwater
and
the
entire
world
too,
and
I
congratulate
you
on
that
choice
and-
and
you
will
be
amazingly
happy
with
whatever
structure
you
end
up.
H
Building
on
that
lot,
first
I
have
been
persuaded
Mr
chair,
based
upon
the
evidence
of
Staff,
as
presented
today,
the
the
testimony
of
witnesses
who
live
in
this
area.
They
testified
to
the
narrow
streets
to
the
parking
challenges
that
they
have
today
and
have
had
for
a
long
time
out
there
on
North
Beach
in
in
the
staffs
requests
that
we
consider
the
uniqueness
of
this
neighborhood
with
regard
to
the
coastal
storm
area,
that
I
I
am
not
inclined
to
deviate
and
to
Grant
the
request
for
an
exemption
of
non-conformally
for
this
property.
B
B
T
Be
kind
of
confused
on
the
on
the
need
because
having
two
dwellings
on
the
property
to
individual
dwellings
on
the
property,
if
it's
all
family
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense,
they're,
never
going
to
be
able
to
be
sold
separately.
It's
going
to
stay
the
way.
It
is
so
it's
more.
Essentially
it's
a
it's
an
outbuilding
or
in
a
but
but
you
wanted
to
have
it
as
a
residence.
So
you
want
to
have
a
kitchen
there.
So
as
much
as
I
would
like
to
say.
F
This
is
my
neighborhood
and
I
can
appreciate
your
position.
I've
looked
on
Clearwater
Beach
for
32
years
I'm
at
7,
45
base
of
the
nod
and
I
agree
with
my
fellow
board
member
I
think
that
you
can
accommodate
your
family
and
create
a
beautiful
residence
for
all
of
you
all
listed
as
one
residence.
Only
I
don't
see
the
purpose
of
finding.
It
is
too,
if
you're
going
to
be
a
family.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
E
E
AA
E
We
got
to
go
on
Equity,
but
for
the
most
part
it
stayed
the
same
because,
right
now
we
have
a
consultant
working
with
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Department
to
rewrite
our
Parks
and
Recreation
master
plan,
which
is
due
to
be
done
this
year.
So
we
anticipate
coming
back
once
that's
completed
to
rewrite
this
chapter
based
on
the
new
information.
E
Oops?
Sorry,
so
there's
only
one
objective
under
this,
and
it
contains
a
policy
policy
related
to
the
city.
Looking
at
when
we
design
develop
or
redevelop
a
park
open
space,
Trail
recreation
facility
that
we're
looking
considering
the
equity
of
all
users.
When
we
do
that,
so
we
have
five
policies
to
support
that,
and
some
of
those
are
ensuring
that
we
have
equal
opportunities
for
all
users
in
parks
and
open
spaces
and
that
we
expand
access
to
our
beach
friendly
wheelchairs,
as
well
as
our
beach,
accessible
mats.
L
E
A
small
piece
of
information
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
we
pause
after
each
one
of
those
to
give
you
an
opportunity
that
if
you
have
comments
or
questions
on
that,
that
is
a
brand
new
goal
for
Equity
I
Envision
that
we
may
add
some
more
things
to
that
as
we
get
through
the
process.
But
it
is
something
that
is
newer.
T
E
It's
something
that
we're
considering
most
more
often
in
the
mobility
element,
where
we're
looking
at
the
Pinellas
Trail
and
getting
more
users
of
that
increasing
usage
and
and
more
connections
to
it
from
the
neighborhood.
So
again,
fighting
has
been
brought
up
before
and
it
is
something
I
think
we
will
consider
in
the
future.
Okay,
I.
T
AA
H
I
want
to
ask
a
question
about
the
mats
for
the
beach
I,
get
some
comments
or
questions
from
time
to
time.
One
just
is:
is
that
the
best
we
can
do
for
folks
who
who
need
that
kind
of
access
and
I
assume
that
the
mats
work
the
best
at
this
time,
because
you
know
we
tide
comes
up
and
down.
We
have
storms
that
come
in
that
can
wash
out
anything
permanent.
AI
Hard
caterer,
Parks
and
Recreation
Department,
absolutely
we
put
in
three
locations
for
the
maps.
Unfortunately,
it
has
to
be
permitted
by
the
state
and
it's
taken
us
a
while
to
do
that.
We
finally
got
it
permitted.
However,
they
will
not
allow
us
to
take
the
mats
further
than
what
you
see
right
now:
Pier
60,
there's
one
at
South
Beach.
What
we
have
are
trying
to
do
is
to
get
one
location
in
your
Pier
60
that
we
can
put
in
that
and
roll
it.
AI
But
basically
is
they
roll
the
mats,
but
these
are
actually
in
sections
if
you've
seen
them
and
we'll
install
it
when
it's
non-pernal
season
and
then
pick
it
up
just
before
current
season.
That
is
what
we're
applying
for
now
through
another
agency,
you've
got
the
fishing
game,
and
then
you
have
the
Florida
fde
dep
that
handles
some
of
that.
So
we're
hopeful
we'll
get
that
that
through.
So
that's
where
we
are
as
far
as
thank.
T
AI
Was
there
was
a
sidewalk
there,
as
well
as
a
sidewalk,
going
further
north
by
the
pier
that
was
there,
which
is
no
longer
there?
It
was
a
sidewalk
and
we
kept
cleaning
it
off
until
all
of
a
sudden.
The
sand
was
like
four
feet
at
the
very
end
of
the
sidewalk,
and
so
then
it
didn't
do
any
good,
because
you
had
to
climb
the
mountain
of
sand
again,
oh,
but
there
was
a
sidewalk
all
the
way
to
the
beach
to
the
water.
It.
AI
E
E
There
are
six
objectives
that
provide
support
to
this
goal
and
I'll
go
through
each
one
of
those
2.1
is
that
the
city
should
have
an
adequate
supply
of
parks,
open
spaces
trails
and
recreational
facilities.
There's
only
one
policy
that
will
support
that
right.
Now,
it's
about
our
level
of
service.
We
want
to
maintain
a
level
of
service
of
four
acres
of
Parkland
for
every
one
thousand
person
city-wide,
so
objective
2.2
is
about
increasing
the
amount
of
Parkland
areas
where
there
are
additional
needs
for
Parks
and
Recreation.
E
2.3
deals
with
preserving
natural,
open
space
areas
that
are
aesthetic
or
ecological
Community
assets.
There
are
five
policies
under
this
objective.
Some
of
those
are
continuing
to
administer
the
city's
landscape,
drainage
and
impervious
surface
regulations
in
our
community
development
code.
Preserving
our
existing
land,
that's
designated
as
preservation
or
Recreation,
open
space,
future
land
use
and
also
designating
appropriate
city-owned
land
with
the
preservation
or
recreational
open
space.
Future
land
use,
designation
and
providing
open
spaces
for
nature,
study
and
enjoyment
of
natural
assets
for
the
city
should
enhance
and
maintain
the
city's
unique
physical
characteristics.
E
2.5
gets
into
the
city
developing
enhancing
blueways,
Greenways
and
trails.
There
are
only
two
policies
under
this
objective
and
that's
continuing
to
develop
Greenways
and
trails
identified
in
the
city's
bicycling
and
pedestrian
master
plan
and
providing
new
access
or
enhancing
existing
access
to
blueways
and
2.6
is
the
city
should
use
the
Parks
and
Recreation
master
plan
as
a
guide
for
Park
development.
A
That's
something
a
few
times:
I
mentioned
it
once
before
in
a
meeting
with
the
consultants
and
studies
and
all
that
I'm
sure
there's
been
some
research
on
it.
Passive
Parks,
I
just
call
it
passive
Park,
such
as
when
we
were
younger
the
parks.
There
was
a
ball
field,
there
was
a
basketball
court,
there
was
whatever
and
it
was
just
open
use
and
our
community
centers
are
you're
either
a
member
of
that
Community
you're,
paying
association
fees,
which
is
all
fine
in
doing
it.
But
I
mean
there
are
some
that
areas.
A
I
just
don't
know
if
I
just
don't
know
what
to
stand.
I'm
not
saying
we
need
to
do
this.
I'm
just
saying.
Is
that
part
of
the
study?
That's
saying
hey?
We
don't
want
it
because
there's
some
social
issues
that
go
along
with
it.
There's
vanity
is
the
city.
Taking
a
stance.
I
mean
there's
no
open
ball
field
that
I
know
of
I
mean
as
far
as
somebody
wants
to
go
play
baseball.
If
there's
10
guys
kids
want
to
get
together
and
go
play
softball.
A
AI
A
few
of
them:
okay,
there's
Belmont
Park,
there's
Mariemont
Park,
there's
Woodgate
Park
that
they
can
access
freely.
Those
are
those
are
free.
They
can
go
on
at
any
time,
except
for
when
the
park
closes,
which
I
think
the
hours
there
are
nine
o'clock.
Maybe
Woodgate
goes
to
10
I'm,
not
real
sure
and
then
there's
another
list.
I
can
certainly
provide
that
to
you.
I
could
pass
that
along,
but
I
do
understand
the
the
concern
and
there's
been
talk
about
it.
AI
Our
ball
fields,
basically,
the
soccer
fields,
the
baseball
fields,
those
are
all
fenced
in
and
they're
used
by
our
user
groups
and
so
I
think
that's
where
some
of
the
concerns
coming
from
the
neighborhood
that
those
aren't
available
as
much
as
they
perhaps
were
in
the
past.
So
we're
looking
at
that.
How
we
can
do
that
and.
AI
E
Okay,
I'm
gonna
move
on
to
goal
number
three:
this
is
our
Parks
and
Recreation
impact
fees
to
improve
our
Park
system
in
the
city.
There's
only
one
objective
under
that
and
that's
the
city
should
continue
to
administer
the
Parks
and
Recreation
impact
fee.
There
are
five
policies
to
support
that
that
includes
spending
funds
collected
at
any
location
in
the
city
towards
Recreation
or
open
spaces
and
providing
an
incentive
with
within
the
impact
fee
structure
for
private
developers
of
affordable
housing
units.
E
That
was
easy:
okay,
all
right
that
moves
us
on
to
the
next
chapter
conservation
and
Coastal
management.
This
one's
going
to
provide
guidance
for
protecting
and
preserving
our
natural
resources
found
within
the
city,
as
well
as
our
coastal
areas,
I'm
also
introducing
sustainable
and
resilient
techniques
for
development
and
Redevelopment.
E
So
there
are
four
objectives:
they're
going
to
provide
direction
for
this,
1.1
gets
into
the
city,
protecting
Dunes
beaches,
floodplains,
drainageways
and
other
natural
resources
from
encroachment
and
development.
There
are
14
policies
under
this
objective.
Some
of
those
include
protecting
and
improving
air
quality,
continuing
to
restrict
development
density
or
intensity.
E
1.3
is
the
city,
should
protect
our
city
owned
and
maintain
potable
water
wells
from
contamination
and
concert
current
and
future
water
sources.
There
are
four
policies
under
this
objective,
some
of
which
are
continuing
to
administer
our
Wellhead
protection
ordinance
and
continuing
to
expand
our
reclaimed.
Water
services
to
limit
the
use
of
potable
water
for
irrigation
and
1.4
is
managing
our
stormwater
discharge
for
flood
protection
and
preserve
and
enhanced
water
quality
of
storm
water
runoff
into
our
receiving
water
bodies.
A
P
Sarah
Kessler
lead
environmental
specialist
in
the
public
works
department,
actually
so
we've
just
kind
of
coordinated
some
stuff
with
public
utilities
and
some
outfall
questions
we
had
about
the
East
plant,
and
so
that
has
all
been
done.
We
have
a
permit
from
the
Water
Management
District
for
the
project
and
so
we're
going
to
go
out
for
RFQ.
P
Hopefully
we'll
have
a
contract
for
final
design
and
then
any
additional
permitting
for
the
recreation
elements
and
all
of
that
kind
of
stuff,
an
RFQ
for
that
prior
to
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year.
So
hopefully
we'll
have
an
RFQ
and
we
can
start
moving
forward
with
those
water
quality
elements
and
then
the
recreation
elements
and
all
of
that
great
stuff.
On
that
one.
E
There
are
seven
objectives
that
will
provide
direction
to
support
this
goal.
2.1
is
the
city
should
ensure
development
includes
strategies
to
reduce
risk
and
losses
due
to
flooding
events,
stormwater
runoff
and
impacts
of
sea
level
rise.
There
are
two
policies
under
the
subjective
and
that's
to
ensure
development
within
the
flood.
Plain
is
consistent
with
City
plans
and
codes,
as
well
as
the
national
flood
insurance
policy,
Community
rating
system
program
and
continuing
to
bring
non-compliance
structures
into
conformance
with
city
codes
and
FEMA
standards.
E
2.2
is
identifying
City
infrastructure
and
Facilities
that
are
susceptible
to
the
impacts
of
flooding
and
sea
level
rise
and
evaluate
projects
to
assess
vulnerabilities
to
maximize
the
effective
lifespans
of
those
facilities.
There
are
five
policies
under
this
objective.
Some
of
those
are
utilizing
vulnerability
assessments
to
determine
if
infrastructure
or
public
facilities
should
be
built,
rebuilt,
modified
or
relocated,
and
evaluating
incorporation
of
stabilization
or
armoring
of
roadway
shoulders
or
embankments,
where
flood
waters
tend
to
wash
the
roads
out.
E
2.4
is
continuing
to
protect
public
access
to
public
beaches.
Two
policies
under
this
subjective
is
enhancing
access
to
public
beaches
through
development
of
recreational
lands,
land
acquisition
or
easements,
and
maintenance
of
public
access
and
parking
to
beaches
or
International
public
funds,
and
also
continuing
to
enforce
the
coastal
zone.
Protection
act
by
prohibiting
vacations
of
existing
and
Future
Beach
accesses
and
recognizing
that
all
public
access,
Street
ends.
Waterfront
parks
and
parking
areas
are
beach
access.
Easements
point
five
is
directing
the
permanent
population
in
certain
uses
away
from
our
Coastal
storm
area.
E
There
are
five
policies
under
this
objective
and
some
of
those
are
prohibiting
the
location
or
expansion
of
hospitals,
nursing
homes,
assisted
living
facilities
or
similar
uses
in
the
coastal
storm
area
and
continuing
to
allow
or
limit
densities
intensities
in
the
coastal
storm
areas
through
the
beach
by
Design
and
US.
19
plans
go
too
far.
Objective
2.6
as
a
city
should
ensure
that
adequate
hurricane
evacuation
times
are
maintained
and
evaluate
ways
to
reduce
evacuation
times.
E
There
are
seven
policies
under
this
objective
and
some
of
those
are
requiring
disaster
plans
for
hospitals,
nursing
homes,
assisted
living
facilities
for
similar
uses,
requiring
new
or
redeveloped
overnight
accommodation
uses
in
the
coastal
storm
area
to
have
approved
hurricane
evacuation
plans
and
continuing
to
utilize.
Our
hurricane
evacuation
zones
shown
on
the
map,
oops
went
too
far
and
2.7
is
identifying
areas
vulnerable
to
flooding,
to
and
sea
level
rise
and
designate
them
as
adaptation
action
areas.
E
E
E
E
E
All
right
goal:
number
five
is
a
new
goal.
It
covers
education
on
the
public
to
the
public
on
storm
events
related
to
related
risks,
flood
insurance,
natural
environment
and
sustainability
initiatives
and
best
practice.
We
kind
of
have
education
sprinkled
throughout
our
current
comprehensive
plan,
so
we
try
to
compress
those
into
one
area.
E
All
right,
moving
on
to
the
last
chapter
support
services.
This
is
going
to
have
guidance
for
our
public
services
and
our
utilities.
This
chapter
is
going
to
have
goals,
objectives
and
policies
from
our
current
utilities
elements,
and
this
chapter
is
an
expanded
chapter.
We
have
now
have
goals
and
objectives
and
policies
relative
to
our
police,
our
Fire
EMS,
our
library
and
Clearwater
gas
systems
that
have
not
been
previously
included.
In
our
current
plan,
number
one
covers
the
provision
of
high
quality,
reliable
and
efficient
sanitary
sewer
service
for
the
city.
E
There
are
five
objectives
to
support
that
goal.
1.1
is
continuing
to
maintain
a
level
of
service
for
existing
and
future
populations.
The
one
policy
under
that
is
related
to
our
level
of
service
we'd,
like
to
correctly,
we
use
a
number
of
100
gallons
per
capita
per
day
as
a
level
of
service
or
sanitary
sewer,
and
we
look
at
that
when
we're
determining
if
there's
capacity
to
serve
any
new
development
or
Redevelopment
1.2
is
continuing
to
provide
Advanced
wastewater
treatment
improvements
at
all
our
Water
Reclamation
facilities.
E
1.3
is
about
providing
and
maintaining
sanitary
sewer
in
a
safe
and
efficient
manner.
We
have
six
policies
to
support
that,
including
maintaining
the
Wastewater
collection
system
to
serve
existing
developments,
requiring
properties
with
failing
septic
tanks
to
connect
to
the
sewer
system
and
requiring
an
agreement
to
Annex
or
annexation
application
and
sufficient
capacity
to
serve
a
property
prior
to
providing
sanitary,
sewers
or
resistor
properties
outside
the
current
city
limits.
E
1.4
is
maintaining
Equitable
charges
to
support
the
fiscal
and
capital
projects
and
provide
efficient
financial
management
of
all
sewer
system
funds.
So
we
have
four
policies,
and
that
is
prioritizing
and
scheduling
major
Wastewater
collection
and
treatment
improvements
as
part
of
our
Capital
Improvement
program
and
ensuring
that
there
are
sanitary
sewer
revenues
are
sufficient
to
fund
and
repair
replacement
projects
on
a
pay-as-you-go
basis
and
ensuring
our
sanitary
sewer
charges
reflect
all
operational
costs
consistent
with
the
amount
of
Wastewater
generated
by
each
user.
E
And
lastly,
1.5
is
using
fully
treated
reclaimed,
water
and
a
beneficial
cost-effective
way.
We
have
floor
policies
and
including
encouraging
long-term
agreements
with
our
golf
courses
and
other
operators
that
use
reclaimed
water
for
irrigation
and
also
expanding
the
reclaimed
water
system
to
optimize
potable
water
conservation
efforts.
A
A
AA
If
they're
not
using
it
and
it's
property
right
right,
typically,
you
don't
have
people
that
are
going
to
Annex
that
don't
want
sewer
do
their
Annex
because
they
need
sewer
or
they
Annex
to
get
Solid.
Waste
Service
sewers
available,
okay
brought
up
in
the
last
meeting.
I
think
we
have
the
question
or
something
I
don't
know.
If
there's
anybody
here
on
reclaimed
water,
because
it
was
brought
up
to
me
again
outside
of
the
meeting
here
as
far
as
our
capacity
I
might.
Z
Z
We
currently
have
a
reclaimed
water
available
to
our
residents.
We
currently
are
expanding
our
Distribution
Systems
out
to
our
residences.
So
we
have.
We
have
Surplus
right
now.
Is
that
not
correct?
Well,
that's
right!
Drought
season
comes
around,
we
start
running
a
little
bit
low,
but
we
had
never
shut
down.
Rainy
season
comes
around
and.
Z
B
Can
we
eliminate
I
think
it
was
done
in
the
harbor
area
when
reclint
water
went
in
there?
That's
along
Edgewater
Drive.
You
had
separate
meters
for
watering
people's
lawns
in
there
back
in
the
day
because
they
had
well
water.
Is
there
a
way
that
we
can
eliminate
those
shallow
Wells
also
for
reclaim.
Z
We
do
offer
incentives
to
residences
when
we
do
come
around
to,
let's
say
a
neighborhood.
Some
of
them
may
have
long
meters,
which
is
used
in
irrigation,
and
some
people
may
have
shallow
Wells
that's
important.
There
are
incentives
to
disconnect
and
connect
Ed.
They
have
to
abandon
their
well.
They
can
keep
it
it's
some
of
the
reasons
reasons
they
may
want
to
keep
it
before
would
be
exotic
plants,
fruits
and
vegetables.
E
All
right
goal
number
two
is
about
providing
solid
waste
collection
and
Disposal
Services
that
balance
reliability,
environmental
impacts,
cost
and
safety.
We
have
four
objectives
to
support
that
goal.
2.1
is
the
city
should
focus
on
data
collection
and
active
route
management
as
a
tool
to
achieve
efficiency.
We
have
three
policies
under
this
objective,
including
reviewing
traffic
patterns
to
help
determine
route
length
and
timing
of
pickup
and
evaluating
opportunities
to
shift
from
active
waste
collection
to
passive
waste
collection.
E
2.2
is
ensuring
Solid
Waste
is
collected
as
scheduled
and
disposed
of
appropriately.
We
have
three
policies
under
this:
ensuring
Solid,
Waste
and
Recycling
fees
charged
to
users,
cover
system,
operating
costs,
repayment
of
capital
costs
and
allow
for
repair
and
replacement
of
existing
facilities
and
maintaining
a
master
plan
of
solid
waste
facilities
that
ensures
upgrades
necessary
to
meet
standards
of
efficiency
are
planned
appropriately.
E
We
have
four
policies
under
this
objective,
including
developing
a
solid
waste
collection
and
recycling
disposal
and
recovery
system
that
will
reduce,
reduce
the
waste
stream,
conserve
energy
and
minimize
impact
on
natural
resources
and
continuing
to
reduce
the
solid
waste
stream
through
recycling
of
aluminum
mixed
paper,
newspaper
plastic,
steel,
cardboard,
office,
paper,
other
metals
and
yard.
Waste
2.4
is
mitigating
the
impacts
of
solid
waste
collection
and
Disposal
to
natural
resources
for
policies
under
this
objective
include
continuing
to
work
to
limit
carbon
emissions
of
fleet
vehicles
and
continuing
the
voluntary
curbside
Source
separation
for
recycling.
H
I
would
only
say
on
2.3
that
I
sometimes
wonder
if
we're
missing
the
point
on
recycling
versus
you
know,
our
goal
should
really
be
to
reduce
use
and
to
encourage
citizens
to
reduce
their
use,
particularly
of
single-use
plastics.
If
we
reduce
our
use,
then
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
whether
it
ended
up
in
recycling
or
not.
Recycling
is
Noble,
but
it's
very
complicated
and
I
was
in
another
meeting
this
morning.
Folks
were
talking
about
just
what
little
contamination
it
it
takes
in
a
recyclable
product
for
them
to
reject
it
and
send
it
to
landfill.
T
Don't
have
to
realize
there's
there's,
there
are
alternatives,
but
you
have
to
like
our
shampoo
and
our
cream.
Rinse
is
now
far
if
it
doesn't
so
that
doesn't
come
in
plastic.
We've
found
it
that
way,
and
it
comes
in
a
a
package
that
you
can
bury
in
the
ground
and
it
grows
plants,
but
it's
just
but
who
you
have
to
educate
the
people
that
this
is
the
way
to
go
and
have
quality
products
just
to
make
that
make
sense.
You
know
that's
a
long
way
off
before
all
that
makes
sense.
H
T
We're
doing
this
we're
doing
that
at
home
with
just
you
know,
obviously,
drinking
water
and
things
like
that.
We
do
the
metal
containers
but
get
away
from
Ziploc
bags,
all
the
stuff
that
goes
with
it.
It's
just
it's
you
have
it's
a
it's
a
much
yeah
yeah.
You
have
to
change.
The
mindset
commit
yourself
to
it.
So
it's
it's
a
lot
of
it's
out
of
the
city's
hands
and
Outlaw
it,
and
that
would
be
problematic.
J
E
We
have
five
objectives
that
provide
Direction
Four
goal.
Three
three
point:
one
is
continuing
to
maintain
an
adequate
level
of
service
for
existing
in
future
populations,
and
the
policy
is
continuing
our
level
of
service.
There's
a
table,
that's
in
in
the
plan.
That's
for
that
and
it's
not
something
that
I
can
readily
explain.
If
you
have
questions
on
it,.
X
E
E
3.2
is
lowering
high
water
profiles
during
storm
events
to
reduce
flooding
and
lessen
the
resulting
adverse
effects
on
public
health,
the
natural
environment
and
public
and
private
property.
We
have
seven
policies
under
this
objective
and
some
of
those
are
providing
regular
maintenance
to
storm
water
management
system,
considering
natural
and
man-made
Wetlands
as
a
means
to
provide
stormwater
management
and
continuing
to
designate
Wetlands
with
the
preservation
future
land
use.
Designation
3.3
is
protecting
enhancing
the
quality
of
receiving
Waters
by
using
best
management
practices.
E
We
have
three
policies
under
this
objective,
including
evaluating
methods
of
financing,
store
water
management
system
improvements
and
new
stormwater
infrastructure,
to
determine
to
determine
the
most
feasible
and
Equitable
arrangements
and
pursuing
a
regional
store
model
management
system
that
is
both
economically
and
environmentally
sound.
Any
questions
on
that
goal.
T
T
AJ
All
inspect
our
our
store,
our
city
of
Clearwater
stoneware,
features
But.
To
answer
your
question:
if
there's
any
developments,
private
development
happening
we
do
require,
they
provide
the
developer
to
provide
us
with
their
stormwater
maintenance
management,
proprietor
certificate
Swift,
but
does.
T
T
You
know
look
at
the
filter
systems
and
that
kind
of
thing
so
I'm
just
curious
as
how
they
do
that
if
they
still
Manning
maintaining
that
stuff.
That's
good,
though,
if
it's
still
it's
still
happening.
I
know:
Swift
mug
was
a
little
taxed
on
that
enforcing
that
for
a
long
time,
I
didn't
know
if
they
were
able
to
step
up
their
funding.
For
that.
F
H
It's
been
several
years
ago,
but
Citizens
Academy
four
years
ago,
I
recalled
the
comment
by
since
retired
staff,
member
that,
like
a
lot
of
Florida
municipalities
or
pipelines
and
streets
and
all
that
were
were
often
100
years
old
and
no
one
knew
exactly
when
those
pipes
would
fail
could
be
year.
It
could
be
20
years
from
now,
but
when
we're
talking
about
financial
management
and
planning
for
replacing
those
pipes-
and
his
point
was
at
some
point-
we
would
have
fight
failure
and
we'd
need
to
replace
all
that.
AJ
Able
again,
oh
yes,
we
have
our
maintenance
division,
our
maintenance
division
regularly
inspects
all
our
city
facilities
and
they
provide
us.
They
regularly
provide
us
with
a
with
a
condition
assessment,
so
they
we
know
where
which
which
locations
are
in
towards
the
end
of
their
useful
life.
So
we
know
where
we
need
to
focus
on
in
the
future.
B
Within
this,
your
support
with
the
support
service
objective
in
tailing
into
his
comment
you
have,
or
they
established
an
asset
management
system
so
as
you
are
putting
in
new
pipelines
and
upgrading
lift
stations,
other
municipalities
that
I
work
with
they
put
it
into
an
asset
management
system.
So
they
know
when
those
pipes
were
put
in
and
what
areas
are
done
and
they
can
track
the
longevity
of
it.
AJ
The
New
Year's
hour
we
have
a
GIS,
they
had
a
base,
gets
available,
JS
stuff,
basically
anytime,
we
replace
the
pipe
or
we
line
up
pipe
that
that
information
gets
uploaded
into
the
JS
system.
So
at
that
point
we
know
what's
what's
what
facility
was
installed
when
it
was
installed,
what
material
it
was
made
of.
So
we
know
when
it
was
last
when
the
last
maintenance
project
was
completed.
Z
Yes,
we
do
use
that
services
and
I
will
tell
you
after
26
years,
I've
been
here
this
regime
that
I'm
following
now.
We
have
major
implementations
of
pipe
replacement
projects
from
water
to
sanitary,
sewer
to
even
expansion
of
the
reclaim
and
plus
Rehabilitation
of
the
reclaim.
We
are
very
proactive,
we
use.
Would
you
track?
The
information
from
our
lining
company
is
a
resin.
It's
like
fiberglass.
You
should
come
out
and
be
more
than
happy
to
you.
Provide
you
a
little
sample,
give
your
sledgehammer
and
let
you
have
a
product.
Z
Z
Z
Z
Light
them
it's
very
good,
we
I
don't
know
the
two
dollar
fact
factors
but
part
of
my
job
growing
up
through
the
ranks
again.
I've
been
here
26
years
old,
with
utilities
and
all
within
water
I've
been
on
the
receiving
end
of
water
main
breaks.
I
will
tell
you
the
engineering
too
track.
We
know
areas.
You
may
see
similar
projects
currently
going
on
across
the
city
hall
Franklin.
That
was
a
19
or
that
was
a
very
old
section
of
pipe.
We
tracked
it.
We
have
our
own
management.
Z
Z
It
is
actually
just
happen
to
know
some
people
in
this
industry
of
Insurance
homeowners,
insurance
and
with
everything
that
has
gone
on.
We
think
about
hurricanes
and
we
think
about
major
catastrophes,
but
one
of
the
major
you
think
about
your
own
homeowners,
insurance
right
now,
you're
concerned
about
the
concerned
about
flood
concerned
about
a
hurricane.
A
Z
X
Z
Right
there
again,
that's
our
standby,
that's
our
24
hour,
seven
days
a
week.
Typically,
that's
what's
leaked,
so
we
identify
areas
that
that
old,
lead
gas,
LED
service
lines
top
priority.
Those
are
projects
put
together,
we
go
into
and
replace.
We
also
have
galvanized.
We
we
track
that.
In
fact,
we
have
some
programs
coming
up
neighborhoods,
where
it's
not
really
the
mains,
but
all
the
service
lines.
Z
J
A
Z
Z
J
E
All
right
so
now
I
want
to
move
into
permanent,
affordable
water.
Okay,
talk
about
some
of
that,
but
we'll
get
into
the
the
objectives.
For
that
there
are
six
objectives
to
support
that
4.1
is
continuing
to
maintain
our
adequate
level
of
service.
Again,
this
is
considered
to
be
100
gallons
per
capita
per
day
at
a
minimum
pressure
of
40
to
45
pounds
per
square
inch.
That's
our
little
water
supply
level.
E
Service
4.2
is
providing
an
adequate
quantity
and
quality
of
affordable
water
to
all
customers
who
have
seven
policies
under
this
subjective
and
that's
continually
construct
portable
water
system,
improvements
that
provide
adequate
quantity,
pressure
and
duration
of
fire
flows,
while
working
to
conserve
energy,
water
and
other
valuable
resources.
I
want
to
ensure
our
portable
water
management
projects
are
designed
and
operated
to
maintain
an
enhance
natural
systems
as
well
as
man-made
systems,
and
we
want
to
continue
to
extend
water
services
to
jurisdictions
outside
the
city
service
area
through
interlocal
or
other
agreements.
E
4.3
is
maintaining
our
water
system
in
a
safe
and
efficient
manner.
We
have
three
policies
to
support
that
include
monitoring
the
water
quality
and
operation
of
the
water
distribution
system,
with
the
intent
of
repairing
and
replacing
deficient
portions
of
the
system
and
requiring
minimum
fire
flows.
Hydrant
spacing
and
proper
size
of
water
pipes
to
provide
those
fire
flows
and
reviewing
applications
for
new
connections
to
the
public.
Potable
water
system.
E
All
right
moving
into
goal
number
five:
this
is
a
new
goal
that
is
dedicated
to
the
provision
of
our
permanent
reclaimed
water
supply
system.
We
have
three
objectives
to
support.
This
5.1
is
maintaining
the
reclaimed
water
system
in
a
safe
and
efficient
manner.
The
one
policy
is
as
monitoring
water,
quality
and
operation
of
the
reclaimed
water
distribution
system,
with
the
intent
of
repairing
a
replacement,
deficient
portions
of
the
system.
E
All
right
goal,
number
six
again
is
a
new
goal,
and
this
is
for
the
provision
of
effective,
professional
and
dependable
law
enforcement,
and
we
have
three
objectives
to
support
our
goal
and
6.1
is
continuing
to
maintain
and
replace
law
enforcement,
building
infrastructure
and
vehicles
as
needed.
Six
policies
under
this
objective,
including
continuing
to
schedule
maintenance
for
our
district
stations,
two
and
three
determining
if
our
district
station
one
should
be
rebuilt
or
refurbished
and
continuing
to
evaluate
the
best
uses
for
our
satellite
buildings.
E
Two
policies
under
this
objective
are
upgrading
their
monitoring
systems
to
State
and
National
incident-based
reporting
systems
and
providing
governance
for
a
regional,
computer-aided
dispatch
and
Records
management
system
that
promotes
the
efficient
sharing
of
resources
and
information
and
6.3
is
building
expertise
and
capacity
to
respond
to
cyber
crime,
synthetic
drugs
and
the
process
of
processing
of
digital
evidence.
One
policy
of
this
is
to
identify
and
Implement
Progressive
Staffing
models
that
are
cost
effective
and
Advance
the
efficient
and
effective
prevention,
detective
detection
and
prosecution
of
crime.
E
E
We
have
three
objectives
to
support.
The
school
7.1
is
ensuring
we
have
adequate
Staffing
levels,
equipment
and
apparatus
for
the
Emergency
Services.
We
have
three
objectives
on
Judas
policy
and
that's
continuing
to
achieve
our
Baseline
response,
time
of
seven
and
a
half
minutes
for
the
first
unit
to
arrive
on
scene
and
then
researching
methods
to
account
for
low
employment
pools,
while
maintaining
appropriate
Staffing
levels.
E
7.2
is
maintaining
and
replacing
infrastructure,
equipment
and
apparatus
on
a
regular
schedule.
We
have
three
policies
under
this
objective,
including
on
completing
the
Fire
Station
46
reconstruction
by
the
end
of
2023
and
continuing
the
process
of
replacing
the
training,
Tower
and
lifeguard
Towers
7.3
is
researching
methods
and
best
practices
to
account
for
increases
in
future
demand,
construction
populations
and
tourism.
Three
policies
under
this
objective
include
researching
and
determining
means
to
maintain
service
times
through
increases
in
traffic
and
determining
strategies
to
account
for
increases
in
high-rise
and
multi-family
developments.
E
E
We
have
three
policies,
and
that
includes
studying
the
feasibility
of
increasing
meeting
spaces
in
the
libraries
to
allow
for
more
Community
meetings,
group
collaborations
or
individual
or
group
studies,
and
also
to
continue
providing
numerous
programs
and
services
for
users
of
all
ages.
Any
questions
on
that
goal.
E
All
right
and
number
nine
again
is
our
last
new
goal.
This
is
for
the
Parisian
and
expansion
of
the
cost-effective,
Gas
Energy
Solutions
and
related
projects
to
customers
in
Pinellas
and
Pasco
counties.
We
have
five
objectives
to
support
this
goal.
9.1
is
that
you
should
apply
for
grant
funding
to
assist
with
the
costs
related
to
repairing
rehabilitating
or
replacing
Natural
Gas
Distribution
pipeline.
E
E
9.4
is
creating
new
key
performance
indicators
for
all
gas
divisions.
We
have
four
policies
under
this,
including
reviewing
all
existing
key
indicator
reports
and
identifying
ones
to
retire
or
modify.
Ensuring
new
key
prop
performance
indicators
include
health
and
safety,
contractor
status
remains,
and
services,
customer
and
gas
load
growth,
gas
line
hits
and
leak,
statistics
and
profit
and
loss
of
retail
service
functions
and
9.5.
Let's
see,
should
update
the
five-year
Clearwater
gas
system
strategic
action
plan.
E
A
A
I
mean
it's
a
you
can
get
your
old
photos
put
together
on
a
CD
or
a
tab,
and
I
mean
there's
it's
just
endless
about
the
stuff,
yeah
really
and
I.
Think
some
of
the
kids
might
know
about
it.
You
know
if
they
do
something
with
school
programs.
I
don't
know
if
they
do
that
or
not,
but
some
way
that
education
and
that's
going
to
piggyback
into
the
next
thing.
A
I'm
going
to
talk
about
on
the
gas
I'm
here
to
tell
you
explicitly
on
the
gas
side
of
it,
the
general
public,
the
commercial
side
of
development.
We
know
it,
but
the
general
public
does
not
know
that
city
of
Clearwater
gas
other
than
just
providing
gas.
That
and
if
I'm
wrong,
correct
me
that
we
also
service
we
sell
product
and
they
don't
know
that
we
sell
product.
AK
Good
afternoon
Brian
Langdale
executive
director
for
Clearwater
gas
system,
so
yes,
we
do
all
those
Services.
Still.
You
know
we
repair
appliances,
we
sell,
you
know,
sell
the
appliances
and
we
do
installation
work
inside
the
house,
so
not
just
installing
the
meter
and
serving
it
there.
We
do
everything
inside
the
house
as
well.
Yeah
I've
talked
to
residences.
A
And
they're,
like
oh
I,
gotta,
get
a
plumber
to
do
that.
I
want
to
do
it
because
I
got
to
get
stuff
a
separate
plumber
to
do
it
to
pull
the
permit
to
come
on
in
there
and
I'm
like
it's
called
Clearwater
pass
just
go
down
to
their
shop.
You
can
look
at
appliances.
If
you
don't
want
to
buy
it,
you
can
but
they'll
handle
the
whole
thing
and
put
in
the
meter
and
they'll
actually
do
the
house
side
of
the
meter
as.
AK
Have
that
why
we
wouldn't
but
yeah,
we
could
certainly
add
that
in
there
you
know
that
you
know
add
in
those
Retail
Services
components
as
well.
You
know
we
did
talk
about
the
renewable
energy
markets,
which
would
be
another
component
of
retail
services.
If
we
wanted
to
enter
into
that
business
part
but
yeah,
we
could
elaborate
more
on
that
and
then
you
know
advertise
that
and
I.
AK
Don't
know
why
not
obviously
there's
areas
that
have
Clearwater
gas
already
down
the
main
down
the
streets
and
then
to
hook
up
I,
don't
know
if
there'd
be
an
incentive
program.
If
we've
ever
looked
into
that
cost
incentive
kind
of
like
we
did
claim
to
years
ago,
when
they
first
opened
up
into
it,
you
had
a
free
meter
drop
or
whatever.
AK
The
case
is,
if
you
signed
up
whenever
coming
in
with
it,
but
I
know
that
the
the
pipes
are
in
and
infrastructure
is
in,
but
is
there
you
know
you
buy
three
appliances
or
whatever,
or
you
know,
yeah
it's
in
the
ordinance
and
we
have
some
policies
that
add
on
more
incentives
to
that.
You
know
we
have
this
Appliance
incentive.
So
if
you
buy
a
water,
heater
or
tankless
or
tank
style
water
heater,
you
know
you
can
get
up
to
550
back
on
that.
So
we
do
have
all
those
types
of
incentives.
AK
AK
AK
J
AK
Still
expanding
so
we're
we're
still
expanding
up
in
Pasco
County
we're
riding
about
anywhere
from
1500
to
2
000
customers
a
year
right
now,
so
we've
got
about
a
five
five
to
six
percent
growth
rate
right
now
customer
base
and
we
and
we
are
expanding
in
Pinellas
County
as
well.
Just
in
you
know
as
pocket
communities,
you
know
new
developments,
you
know
nowhere
near
as
big
as
Pasco,
but
but
still
though
it's
you
know,
25
30
of
our
customer
growth
is
is
in
Pinellas
as
well.
E
All
right
we'll
wrap
it
up
again.
We
have
the
full
plan
going
to
public
meetings
on
June
27th
at
the
North
Greenwood
rec
center
and
June
29th
at
the
countryside
Library,
and
we
will
be
back
before
you
with
the
full
plan
for
our
public
hearing
on
August
15th.
For
your
recommendation
to
city
council.
We
will
take
these
same
two
presentations
that
you
have
heard
to
Town
Council
work
sessions
on
June
5th
and
June
12th.
E
We
had
our
first
public
hearing
before
City
Council
on
the
21st
and
the
second
public
hearing
the
earliest
we'll
be
able
to
get
a
distance
December
the
7th,
but
it
may
end
up
being
later
than
that,
depending
on
the
type
of
review
that
the
the
state
will
be
doing.
It
could
be
anywhere
from
30
to
60
days,
and
so,
if
it's
a
longer
review
we'll
make
it
pushed
into
2024
for
the
adoption.