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A
A
Good
morning
everybody
on
this
wintery
january
31st
morning,
we
appreciate
you
all
coming
out
for
this
special
work
session.
Councilmember
bunker
will
be
joining
us
in
just
a
moment.
So
last
week
I
did
my
agenda
on
wednesday
because
I
was
going
out
of
town
on
thursday
and
this
agenda
item
has
been
changed
since
then.
So
I
am
less
than
happy
this.
A
Of
my
notes
and
highlights
have
been
erased.
That
being
said,
I
had
talked
to
the
city
manager
about
this
issue
when
he
first
came
on
and
it
my
concern
with
what
is
going
on
on
us
19
is.
We
are
not
seeing
what
we
had
originally
hoped
for
with
the
us
19
plan,
which
is
a
plan
that
I
think
staff
put
a
lot
of
effort
into,
and
I
think
has
good
concepts.
A
But
I
also
think
at
a
point:
you
have
to
re-examine
whether
something
is
working
and
currently,
I
don't
think
we're
seeing
the
development
patterns
that
we
had
hoped
for
we're,
seeing
a
lot
of
storage
units,
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
standalone
apartment
complexes,
and
that
was
not
what
was
originally
hoped
for.
We
were
going
to
hope
for
more
mixed
use.
A
A
A
It
certainly
has
gotten
the
development
community's
attention,
because
I've
gotten
a
number
of
very
angry
calls
from
people
about
a
moratorium,
but
I
think
you
have
to
re-examine
whether
something
is
having
the
desired
effect,
and
I
question
whether
we
need
even
more
incentives
and
also
need
to
get
the
word
out
of
what
the
development
possibilities
are
on
the
u.s
19
corridor.
A
That
is
not
to
say
stopping
forever,
but
I
at
least
thought
that
we
needed
to
have
this
discussion
and
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
staff
has
put
into
it.
I
read
the
entire
report
and
had
numerous
notes
which
are
now
somewhere
in
cyberspace,
but
we'll
get
through
the
program
and
hopefully
have
some
great
questions
and
come
to
some
resolutions.
A
C
No
problem,
as
you
said,
we're
here
today,
because
the
city
administration
was
tasked
with
evaluating
a
possible
moratorium
on
us-19
and
to
accomplish
that
planning
and
development,
with
some
assistance
from
economic
development
and
housing
prepared
a
report
that
outlines
the
history
of
our
planning
and
policy
work
for
us
19,
the
new
construction
that
we
see
going
on
there,
what
we're
seeing
in
the
market,
and
then
we
also
revisited
the
strategies
of
the
us
19
plan
to
and
to
determine
really,
if
there's
some
recommendations
that
we
could
come
up
with
for
you
to
consider,
instead
of
imposing
a
moratorium.
C
So,
as
mayor
said,
our
goal
this
morning
is
to
generate
some
discussion
answer
some
questions,
and
I
would
point
out
that
the
changes
that
were
made
in
the
report,
I
think,
were
very
minor.
We
found
some
math
error
so
hopefully
that
doesn't
really
derail
your
questions
and
concerns
mayor
good
morning.
So
because
many
or
some
of
you
may
not
have
been
here
when
the
us
19
work
began,
the
report
provides
a
pretty
detailed
history
of
our
planning
efforts,
which
start
back
with
the
2006
evaluation
and
appraisal
report.
C
That
report
initially
identified
aries
on
u.s
19
as
activity
centers
appropriate
for
redevelopment
and
intensification
and
that
led
to
the
adoption
of
what
we
call
our
city-wide
design,
structure,
map
and
policies
that
we
included
in
the
2008
comprehensive
plan
update
and
that
designated
countryside
mall
and
clearwater
mall
as
activity
centers
in
ua.
Excuse
me,
us
19
has
a
redevelopment
quarter
in
2011
green
print
and
economic
development.
Strategic
plan
further
strengthened
our
commitment
to
transitioning
us
19.
D
C
A
more
mixed-use
transit-supportive
environment
and
one
that
supports
the
creation
of
high-wage
employment
opportunities
in
2012
we
kept
moving
forward
and
city
council
approved
the
us-19
redevelopment
plan,
which
organized
the
quarter
into
three
different
revitalization
areas.
It
also
established
far
allowances
provided
design
guidelines
and
provided
some
redevelopment
strategies.
C
These
amendments
really
enabled
the
significant
increases
in
development
potentials
that
we
have
to
ensure
critical
mass
for
trans
transit,
supportive
redevelopment
and
required
the
city
to
put
in
place
zoning
standards
that
would
support
those
objectives.
C
C
C
To
implement
the
concepts
of
centers
and
corridors,
three
sub-districts
were
established
in
u.s
19,
and
you
can
see
those
outlined
with
the
different
colors
on
the
map
and
those
sub
districts
regulate,
use
development,
potential,
height
and
parking.
Additionally,
we
have
street
finished
types
and
site
design,
standards
that
regulate,
building
and
parking
placement,
vehicular
and
pedestrian
circulation,
landscaping
and
storm
water.
We
also
have
some
requirements
for
properties
that
are
over
10
acres
and
those
mainly
focus
on
the
internal
drive
network
and
pedestrian
and
vehicular
connectivity,
as
outlined
in
the
staff
report.
C
C
So
I'd
like
to
talk
now
about
the
new
construction
that
we
are
seeing,
we've
had
a
total
of
15
projects
that
have
been
approved
or
someplace
in
the
review
process
and
that
accommodates
96,
acres
or
6
percent
of
the
land
area
in
the
u.s
19
district
7
projects
have
been
built
and
those
are
noted
with
the
green
dot.
Six
are
under
construction
and
those
are
with
the
blue
dot
and
then
you'll
see
two
that
are
pink
and
those
are
still
in
the
review
phase.
We've
had
five
residential
projects,
five
that
are
either
retail
or
restaurant.
C
C
The
five
residential
projects
that
you
see
here
on
the
map
are
the
most
significant
in
terms
of
land
area
and
impact.
A
total
of
1
752
units
will
be
constructed
on
69
acres
or
4
percent
of
the
land
in
the
district,
and
these
five
developments
represent
71
percent
of
the
total
acreage
approved
for
new
development.
C
As
you
can
see
on
the
map,
these
projects
are
located
in
two
of
our
sub-districts
two
of
those
are
located
in
the
clearwater
mall
area
over
here
regional
center,
and
then
you
can
see
that
there
is
one
in
the
quarter
area
north
on
the
screen
in
the
yellow.
That
is
in
the
corridor
north
of
sunset
point
and
then
the
other
two
are
in
the
corridor
area
south
of
gulf
to
bay,
to
address
the
concerns
about
the
amount
of
land
being
used
and
the
loss
of
what
may
be
considered
some
of
our
best
redevelopment
sites.
C
C
Another
project
replaced
an
office
building
that
I
think
we
felt
was
at
the
end
of
their
useful
life
and
that
accounts
for
the
third
waterfront
site
and,
as
you
all
know,
waterfront
property
provides
an
unparalleled
amenity
for
residential
development
and
certainly
commands
a
higher
price
than
what
other
users
could
support.
So
I
don't
think
it's
really
likely
that
these
three
parcels
would
have
been
developed
with
any
other
use.
C
The
other
two,
however,
are
located
on
the
frontage
road
and
in
corridors
where
we
thought
we
had
great
potential
for
office
sites,
but
we're
just
finding
right
now.
Our
market
is
not
ready
to
support
office
at
this
time,
while
all
these
five
projects
are
actually
exceeding
our
2030
housing
projections
by
about
500
units.
C
I
don't
think
that
the
study
could
fully
back
right
when
we
were
coming
out
of
the
recession,
predict
the
factors
that
are
influencing
our
market
today,
such
as
our
sustained
record
of
low
interest
rates
larger
than
usual
influxes
of
people
into
florida
and
some
shifting
models
in
the
workplace
to
better
understand
the
city's
future
housing
needs.
We
take
a
look
at
the
2040
population
projections
that
we
have
and
we
determined
that
if
we
continue
with
our
current
household
sizes,
we're
going
to
need
about
4
600
additional
housing
units
to
meet
that
need.
C
So
this
very
basic
analysis.
But
if
you
look
at
what's
being
built
now
on
us
19
and
you
subtract
those
out,
the
city
is
still
going
to
need
about
2
800,
additional
housing
units,
and
at
this
point,
the
areas
that
we
have
planned
for
additional
growth
would
be
downtown
and
us
19..
So
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
we
probably
will
be
seeing
some
more
residential
development
in
this
area
and
in
fact
we
are
already
talking
with
two
other
developers
about
residential
projects
in
the
u.s
19
district.
C
Regarding
the
office
market,
I
think
we
provided
you
some
information
and
the
report
from
economic
development
and
housing
that
really
lays
out
the
reasons
why
we
aren't
attracting
employment
based
users
at
this
time.
The
bottom
line
is:
is
they
can't
compete
with
the
housing
and
self-storage
developers
who
can
pay
more
for
the
best
sites?
C
And
while
there
are
lower
co
cost
sites
out
there,
that
office
users
could
attain
there's
really
more
issues
that
they
have
to
deal
with
when
a
property
is
occupied,
and
you
have
to
you
know,
demolish
in
the
site
and
then
you
might
have
to
make
some
infrastructure
improvements
and
that's
just
not
competitive
with
greenfield
sites.
So
if
you
want
to
hear
more
about
that,
denise
obviously
is
here
and
she
can
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
about
that.
C
I
mean
I
think
mayor.
We
agree
with
you.
We
would
like
to
see
some
more
mixed-use
development
and
maybe
some
little
more
urban
development
projects,
but
we
need
the
market
to
be
there
to
support.
It's
transforming
the
seven
mile
corridor
is
something
that's
not
going
to
happen
overnight,
and
I
think
we
have
to
remember
that
the
redevelopment
cycle
typically
starts
with.
B
C
Addition
of
new
housing
in
that
area,
and
obviously
that
is
occurring
here
and
once
people
are
here
living
here,
then
typically
you
would
find
services
and
retail
uses
following
and
then
ultimately
the
job
the
process
take
time,
and
I
know
we
have
to
be
patient
and
I
think
that's
really
where
we
are.
We
did
spend
a
good
bit
of
time
thinking
about
what
regulatory
changes
we
could
recommend
that
could
maybe
shift
the
market
to
attract
some
of
these
mixed
use
and
employment
uses.
C
But
we
really,
at
this
point,
haven't
identified
changes
that
we
think
could
really
affect
a
lot
of
change
if
we
restrict
residential
uses
or
we
require
a
minimum
threshold
of
far
or
we
require
only
mixed-use
development.
That
really
is
not
going
to
guarantee
that
we're
going
to
get
those
tech,
jobs
and
office
jobs
that
we
so
need
and
want
in
our
community.
C
E
So
within
that
list
and
they're
not
in
the
same
order
as
presented
in
the
report,
we
talked
about
ad
valorem
tax
exemption.
That
is
an
incentive
that
is
currently
on
the
books.
We
have
utilized
it
twice
in
our
history
once
for
heritage
insurance
back
in
2013
and
once
for
instrument
transformers
a
heavy
industrial
user.
E
The
ad
valorem
tax
exemption
program
was
adopted
by
voters
prior
to
pinellas
county's
ad
valorem
tax
exemption,
and
at
that
time
of
both
of
those
projects,
we
were
not
able
to
utilize
the
county's
ad
valorem
as
an
additional
boost
for
incentives.
The
county
program
is
in
place.
It
provides
up
to
100
percent
of
tax
exemption
for
a
period
of
up
to
10
years
on
eligible
projects,
and
that's
on
the
increment
that
would
resolve
results
from
a
project.
E
E
What
we
currently
require
is
that
we
have
an
application,
a
project
that
has
some
specific
outcomes,
and
we
approve
that
project
prior
to
it
going
under
permit
the
county's
program
is
a
little
bit
different
and
that
they
can
provide
that
approval
in
advance
of
the
specifics
of
the
project.
Additionally,
I
would
recommend
that
we
provide
a
pass-through.
What
I
mean
by
that
is
for
tenant
occupied
buildings,
that
the
property
owner
must
pass
through
the
exemption
to
that
tenant
facility.
E
E
We
must
look
at
it
from
a
broader
perspective,
therefore
regionally
and
so
competing
against
greenfield
sites.
The
recommendation
here
is
that
we
consider
incentives
that
bring
us
to
parity.
So
when
we're
talking
about
demolition,
perhaps
clean
up
or
infrastructure
changes,
a
lot
of
those
additional
costs
are
really
a
discouraging
factor
when
trying
to
attract
target
industries.
E
However,
I
do
believe
that
we
need
to
make
some
significant
investment
for
select
sites
in
order
to
to
change
this
to
catalyze
and
change
the
narrative
a
bit
in
terms
of
our
commitment
to
economic
development,
and
so
a
suggestion
here
is
a
tiff-like
policy
to
reinvest
along
the
corridor.
There
are
some
challenges
with
establishing
a
tiff,
but
a
tif
like
policy
is
indeed
quite
possible.
E
Additionally,
some
place
making
and
other
types
of
amenities
might
be
necessary
to
encourage
that
mixed-use
development
that
we've
been
talking
about
and
then,
as
we
move
on
providing
guidance,
a
big
component
of
what
we
do
when
we
now
analyze
projects
for
incentives,
is
we
look
at
the
fiscal
and
incentive
analysis
and
we
utilize
a
tool.
E
One
of
the
recommendations
within
the
us-19
plan
was
to
encourage
the
creation
of
a
business
or
property
owners
groups
along
the
corridor.
I
would
suggest
that
they
be
considered
in
context
with
the
wayfinding
districts
that
gina
will
talk
about
in
a
little
bit,
but
perhaps
it
would
be
appropriate
as
we
redevelop
the
corridor
that
we
consider
supporting
groups
in
those
sub-districts
and
I'm
talking
about
marketing
districts
not
to
be
confused
with
their
zoning
sub-districts.
E
E
This
is
an
estimated
160
million
dollars
over
a
10-year
period,
of
which
approximately
80
million
is
to
be
used
for
economic
development
related
goals.
Currently,
the
county
has
an
employment
sites
program
which
requires
that
a
developer
property
owner
or
user
end
user
is
the
applicant
for
those
funds.
E
Two
additional
programs
that
that
program
is
on
the
books
and
in
fact
the
county
is
reopening
a
third
round
for
solicitation
of
applications.
Those
funds
can
be
used
for
new
construction
expansion,
rehabilitation
of
office
and
industrial
space,
but
additionally,
within
those
that
penny
for
pinellas
guidelines
were
two
additional
programs
site
readiness
program
has
not
yet
been
created.
The
government,
local
municipal
or
county
government
would
be
the
applicant
for
those
funds.
Capital
projects
for
publicly
led
land,
assembly
and
or
site
prep
would
be
use
an
appropriate
use
of
those
funds.
E
This
would
include
storm
water,
water,
waste,
water,
roadway
access
improvements
and
new
construction
for
both
of
these
programs.
Under
the
penny
for
pinellas,
I
would
encourage
council
to
encourage
the
county
to
establish
those
programs
so
that
we
can
access
those
for
appropriate
use,
as
it
relates
to
our
marketing
efforts.
E
We
have
developed
within
our
department,
significant
concept,
marketing
activities
to
market
the
advantages
of
the
corridor
and
to
promote
the
opportunities
and
the
density
intensity
that
we
wish
to
seek
of
the
activities
that
we've
been
engaged
in.
Just
in
the
last
three
months,
we've
had
75
targeted
engagements
with
site,
selectors
brokers,
developers
and
what
I
would
refer
to
as
influencers
so
land
use,
attorneys,
architects,
engineers
and
the
like.
We
also
have
a
direct
email
campaign
reaching
over
3600
site
selectors.
E
This
is
a
vetted
list
that
we
pay
for
and
communicate
with,
and
obviously
the
intent
there
is
to
to
drive,
engagement
and
response
on
those
email
campaigns.
Additionally,
we
have
400
local
brokers,
lenders,
attorneys
property
managers,
managers
and
others
that
we
engage
through
with
a
separate
email
campaign.
E
We
had
the
greatest
click-through
rate
and
time
on
page
with
cincinnati
and
philadelphia,
and
so
we'll
explore
that
a
little
bit
further,
as
we
continue
to
market
in
those
communities
and
likely
others,
and
then,
of
course,
we're
members
of
local,
regional
and
national
groups.
Uli,
nap
and
crew
are
examples
of
those
and
our
active
participants
and
conferences
and
trade
shows.
We
very
often
participate
with
pinellas
county
economic
development
on
some
of
those
activities
taking
place
throughout
the
country
toronto.
C
We
do
not
agree
with
their
interpretation
of
the
mutcd
standards
which
govern
community
way
finding
and
in
fact,
we
presented
district
7
when
we
met
with
them.
Mr
horn
came
along
with
us,
and
the
secretary
was
there
with
his
lead
staff,
and
we
showed
them
a
way
finding
program
that
had
been
approved
in
daytona,
which
is
very
similar
to
ours
and
included
on
some
state
roadways.
We
also
pointed
out
that
that
particular
wayfinding
project
was
a
fdot
lab
funded
project
and
the
city
received
465
thousand
dollars
in
support
of
it.
C
I
do
have
some
graphics
if
you're
interested
to
show
you
what
we
have
developed
when
we
started
the
us
19
way
finding
program.
It
really
expanded
then
to
a
city-wide
way-finding
program,
because
it's
so
important
to
link
all
of
our
visitors
and
residents
from
district
to
district
in
the
city
and
in
fact,
downtown
is
already
moving
forward
with
their
portion
of
that
plan.
So
mayor,
would
you
like
to
see
the
graphics
or
not?
Okay,.
C
I
and
again
I
apologize
somehow
I
over
wrote
a
file
and
didn't
have
all
of
these
for
the
powerpoint.
So,
as
you
can
see,
we
came
off
with
with
the
logos
now.
The
only
one
I
think
that
really
hasn't
been
truly
vetted
was
the
one
for
clearwater
beach,
but
we
have
our
city
brand,
which
governs
everything
that
we
do
in
the
city
and
then
we
created
some
unique
identifiers
for
all
of
our
other
main
districts.
The
other
thing
fdot
did
not
agree
with
was
that
us
19
was
a
district.
C
C
We
have
the
city,
welcome
to
clearwater,
sign
that
you
all
have
already
approved
and
those
are
going
to
be
erected
hopefully
later
in
the
year,
and
then
here
you
can
see
the
type
of
signs
that
we
were
hoping
to
get
on
the
frontage
roads.
That
would
brand
you
know
the
different
areas
along.
We
could
also
do
a
variety
of
things
with
banners
and
street
signs.
There's
lots
of
opportunities
here
again
you
see
how
cohesive
this
wayfinding
program
would
be
to
link
visitors
and
residents
throughout
the
entire
city.
A
C
A
C
C
That
was
the
one
area,
but
there
was
just
really
there
was
just
really
no
opening
to
move
it
forward.
So
here,
just
again
you
can
see
doing
exactly
what
we
intended
to
do
with
all
the
different
districts,
and
then
you
know
they've
already
gotten.
Some
of
these
in
the
ground
was.
C
He
had
just
started
and
he
was
in
attendance
at
the
meeting,
but
it
was
really
right
at
the
beginning
of
his
administration.
So
that's
really
where
we
are.
I
mean
I
think,
if
you
all
are
interested
us
in
us,
resurrecting
this
and
try
to
move
it
forward.
Again.
Maybe
there's
been
some
changes
in
the
few
years
that
we
haven't
had
contact
with
fdot.
C
So,
as
I
said,
if
you'd
like
us
to
pursue
it,
we
certainly
think
it's
a
great
value
in
helping
us
define
and
have
some
public
improvements
in
branding.
But
if
not,
we
could
maybe
consider
and
see
how
effective
our
program
could
be
if
we
can't
make
use
of
the
state
rights
away.
I
just
don't
know
how
effective
that
would
be,
but
that
would
be
the
alternative.
C
Our
last
group
of
recommendations
is
centered
around
transportation,
and
I
know
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time,
so
I
don't
think
I'm
going
to
go
through
all
of
those.
I
think
the
key
takeaway
with
our
transportation
is
that
we
have
to
improve
our
roadway
so
that
people
are
comfortable
driving,
walking
and
biking
and
if
they're,
not
we're,
really
not
going
to
achieve
the
things
that
we
want
to
achieve
here,
but
because
we
don't
control
a
lot
of
right
of
way.
C
C
All
around
the
college
and
around
our
stadium,
that's
something
we'd
like
to
see
support
of.
We
also
have
some
recommendations
related
to
working
with
psta
to
improve
bus
shelters
and
that
sort
of
thing.
But
at
this
point
I
think
I'd
like
to
stop
and
then
let
you
all
have
the
floor
and
we'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
A
Can
somebody
refresh
my
memory
on
what
the
vote
passed
by
for
the
incentives
for
the
ad
valorem
exemption?
E
E
I
I
should
add
that
I've
had
a
conversation
with
pinellas
county
and
when,
once
as
you
know,
once
we
put
something
on
on
referendum,
the
staff
is
not
able
to
advocate
for
passage
we
can
educate
but
cannot
advocate.
Pinellas
county
economic
development
has
committed
to
advocating
on
our
behalf,
which
I
think
would
be
incredibly
helpful.
A
Okay
and
then
you
know
you
all
talked
about
east
tampa
and
pasco.
They.
A
E
E
E
All
the
way
down
through
our
southern
counties,
without
a
single
stoplight
you'd
be
able
to
get
over
to
tampa
in
that
same
way
as
well,
and
so
I
think
the
timing
is
really
good
and
then,
of
course,
the
more
direct
route
is
memorial,
causeway
and
excuse
me,
the
courtney,
campbell
causeway
and
memorial
boulevard,
so
those
are
more
direct
routes
over
to
tia.
Certainly
it's
you
know
a
15-minute
drive
and
great
traffic.
E
It
could
be
more
difficult
at
other
times,
but
certainly
when
you're
going
to
downtown
tampa
from
the
airport,
you
can
face
those
same
restrictions,
so
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
there
for
us
to
promote
it,
but
there's
some
realities
out
of
pasco
county
now,
with
with
the
improvements
that
they've
made.
That
I
think
are
a
bit
challenging.
Pasco
county
also
has
a
ready
sites
program
that
they've
implemented
and,
as
you've
probably
seen
with
a
recent
announcement,
it's
been
a
successful
endeavor
for
them.
That's
not
a
program
that
we
currently
have.
E
Has
sir,
it's
certainly
around
54.
and
it's
migrated
up
to
52..
I
would
say
here:
nando
now
is
a
part
of
this
conversation.
It
didn't
used
to
be
again
10
15
years
ago,
but
that
suncoast
parkway,
opening
that
all
the
way
up
and
through
hernando
county
has
opened
up
the
competitive
landscape.
Quite
a
bit.
E
I
used
to
work
right
on
54
in
suncoast
parkway
and
we
used
to
town
all
the
time.
It
was
a
20
minute
drive
to
the
airport,
and
that
was
before
hiv.
E
So
if,
if
you're
familiar
with
pasco,
the
ridge
road
extension
now
is
opened
up
and
that
connects
over
to
the
suncoast
parkway,
so
it's
from
the
ridge
road
extension
north
to
52
and
permitted
in
there
at
7
000
units
a
lot
of
light,
industrial
space
and
mixed
use.
It's
it's
a
big
big
project
and,
of
course,
mafa,
is
to
anchor
that.
A
Okay,
cap
rates
aren't
going
to
go
up
this
year
and
next
so
you
know
we
were
talking
about
how
competitive
that
makes
the
apartments,
but
that
is
going
to
be
changing.
A
You
know
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
setting
goals
because
I
agree
with
us
setting
goals
and
the
quantitative
goals
are
easy,
but
I
think
we
need
qualitative
goals
too.
Those
aren't
quite
as
easy
and
they're
not
quite
as
easy
to
measure,
but
they
can
actually
be
more
important.
I
think,
because
we
are
looking
for
that
live
work
play.
Can
you
be
a
little
more
specific
on
some
of
the
goals
you
and
staff?
Miss
clayton
have
discussed.
E
E
19
now
allows
for
research
and
technology
as
well
as
light
industrial.
I
don't
see
a
lot
of
light.
Industrial
perhaps
but
research
and
technology
is
an
opportunity.
I
certainly
think
that
we
should
be
pursuing
and
within
the
regional
sub-districts,
there
are
two:
that's
the
drew
street
gulf
to
bay
and
the
clearwater
excuse
me,
the
countryside,
mall
area,
formerly
known
as
westfield
countryside.
E
Recognizing
that
they
need
to
find
new
markets
in
terms
of
the
qualitative
type
of
pursuits
is,
I
think,
if
we
focus
on
those
place
making
or
mixed
use
opportunities.
So
now
we're
talking
multiple
developers
right.
So
we're
talking
about
horizontal
developer
that
can
bring
in
those
vertical
developments,
and
so
that's
a
lot
of
partners
to
bring
to
the
table
and
those
become
very
complex
deals.
E
E
The
greatest
challenge
in
attracting
development
is
surety
and
predictability
within
the
marketplace,
and
I
think
conversations
like
this
are
a
little
bit
frightening.
So
I
think
we
need
to
be
fully
committed
and
we
need
to
certainly
establish
programs
and
incentives
that
people
can
access
when
they
follow
certain
rules.
So
perhaps
we
have
a
minimum
far.
Perhaps
we
have
mixed
use
requirements.
E
So
all
of
those
things
are
conversations
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
have,
and
I
think
the
landings
project
quite
frankly,
quite
frankly,
taught
me
a
lot.
I
don't
think
the
community
was
prepared
for
a
conversation
about
what
economic
development
is
and
what
it
is
not,
and
some
of
the
comments
that
I
heard
during
that
that
run
up
to
the
referendum
really
came
home
to
me
that
we
need
to
do
a
lot
of
education
within
our
own
community.
E
You
know
comments
like
we're.
Just
tourism
or
those
jobs
are
for
sick
places
like
saint
pete
and
tampa.
You
know
comments
like
those,
I
think
are
really
eye-opening,
so
we
have
to
have
a
marketing
campaign
that
not
only
deals
with
all
of
those
folks
that
we
hope
invest
here,
but
I
think
we
have
to
have
an
education
campaign
with
our
residents
as
well,
so
they
understand
the
value
and
the
risks
of
not
pursuing
high
quality
development
and
high
quality
jobs.
E
Because
when
we
talk
about
a
moratorium
without
understanding
what
it
is
that
we
intend
to
achieve
with
a
moratorium,
I
think
that
causes
an
immediate
concern.
It
doesn't
mean
that
we
shouldn't
have
one.
It
means
that
if
we
don't
know
what
it
is,
we're
attempting
to
achieve
by
implementing
one
and
are
able
to
competently
articulate
that
to
the
development
community,
then
I
think
it
takes
a
long
time
to
rebuild
a
reputation.
A
Well,
we
wouldn't
have
had
this
conversation
at
all.
Had
we
not
had
I
not
raised
a
moratorium,
so
I
think
it
was
productive
and
I'm
not
frightened
by
it.
One
little
bit
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
it
tiff
and
what
the
process
would
be.
Should
we
want
to
institute
what
the
roadblocks
and
hurdles
are.
E
Sure,
and
and
I'll
ask
our
city
attorney
david
margolis
to
jump
in
here.
If
you
will,
we
looked
at
a
tiff,
we
looked
at
portland's
program,
the
state
of
maine
allowed
cities
to
create
tiffs
for
certain
economic
development
activities.
We
looked
throughout
the
state
and
the
state
has
several
tiffs
outside
of
cra
in
various
counties
and
in
conversation
with
mr
margolis
learned
that
the
cities
do
not
have
those
same
authorities
in
creating
a
tiff,
and
so
our
opportunities
to
create
a
tiff
are
to
establish
a
cra.
E
That
would
mean
a
findings
of
blight
and
slum
along
the
corridor
or
in
areas
along
the
corridor.
We
could
also
establish
a
cdd
or
special
assessment
areas,
and
we
could
instead
have
a
policy,
an
administrative
policy
whereby
we
look
at
the
u.s
19
zoning
district
and
do
a
calculation
every
year.
What
do
we
gain
in
property
values
and
do
we
wish
to
set
aside
funds
as
a
sort
of
tiff
like
administrative
policy
that
gets
put
into
a
fund
for
economic
development
purposes?
E
The
challenge
with
that
perhaps
is
as
councils
change
over
time.
That
policy
could
then
change
over
time,
and
so
that
fund
could
in
fact
be
at
risk
or
we
might
not
wish
to
bond
against
it
or
other
kinds
of
things
so
I'll.
Let
mr
margolis
respond
more
fully
to
that
question
about
tiffs.
F
I
don't
know
much
else
to
add.
I
generally
agree
with
that,
but
just
to
qualify
the
remarks
a
little
bit.
The
miss
anderson
I
talked
about
was
the
purpose
of
those
funds
and,
if
I
understand
correctly,
the
primary
purpose-
or
at
least
the
heavy
spend
from
those
funds
would
be
for
the
acquisition
of
real
estate
and
is
that.
F
F
The
advantage
of
that
system
is
that
it
does
not
come
out
of
your
general
fund
because
it
would
be
on
top
of
it.
The
disadvantage,
of
course,
is
that
they're
levying
additional
millage,
and
that
may
not
be
you
know
very
popular
with
some
of
the
property
owners.
There
third
option,
as
mr
miss
sanderson
pointed
out,
would
be
special
assessments
if
we're
making
improvements
along
the
corridor.
F
That
would
also
be
appropriate
and
justified
and
then
also,
I
agree
with
miss
anderson
that
if
council
simply
wants
to
set
aside
money
in
the
general
fund,
you
know
tiff
really
is
general
fund
money,
it's
property
taxes,
and
so
council
always
has
the
power
to
just
set
it
aside
as
part
of
the
budget.
So
that
would
be
the
universe
of
options
when
it
comes
to
funding
the
acquisition
of
real
estate,
primarily
and
secondarily,
for
investment.
E
A
I
don't
know
about
marketing
in
la
franklin,
I
see
us
more
as
a
midwest
northeast,
very
similar
to
where
we
market
with
our
tdc
money.
E
Agreed
we
chose
a
couple
of
wild
cards,
silicon
valley
and
la
for
that
reason
is
really
to
see
how
we
would
benchmark
against
some
of
those
other
markets
that
we're
in
we
had
the
opportunity
to
choose
six
within
the
program
that
that
we
utilize
with
the
business
journals
and
so
for
that
reason
we
chose
a
couple
of
other
wild
cards.
Certainly
we
know
that
california,
businesses
are
are
fleeing
in
some
cases
to
other
states,
florida
being
one
of
them,
texas,
being
primarily.
E
A
B
E
E
This
is
virtually
his
entire
world,
is
the
us
19
corridor
and
he
was
hired
for
that
purpose
in
terms
of
the
tampa
bay
business
journals
campaign.
E
E
E
This
data
was
provided
to
us
by
the
business
journals
we
significantly
outperformed
in
cincinnati
and
philadelphia
in
all
aspects,
and
that
includes
in
all
aspects
of
the
native
content
performance,
social
performance
as
well,
very
similar
on
facebook
and
twitter,
because
this
went
across
multiple
platforms.
Again,
we
saw
greater
engagement
out
of
those
two
markets
specifically.
E
Brand
awareness,
so
we
had
about
670
hours
of
brand
awareness
within
that
campaign
and
overall
we're
reaching
executives.
Typically
in
the
demographic
profile
for
income
of
100
to
250
000,
it
gets
a
little
stronger
above
150
000
in
terms
of
who
was
looking
at
our
content
and
that,
I
would
say,
is
fairly
typical
of
business
journals
themselves.
Those
are
the
readers
quite
often
in
business
journals,
and
so
that
information
did
not
surprise
us
necessarily,
but
we
were
happy
to
see
that
it
was
consistent
with
demographics.
We
should
we
would
expect
to
see.
G
I'm
I'm
looking
at
this
from
a
little
different
perspective,
because
I
look
at
as
it
says
in
the
report.
Housing
usually
comes
first
and
then
other
uses.
You
know
follow
in
line
at
some
point,
and
I
agree
with
you.
You
know
seeing
all
these
apartments
new
apartments
going
up
and
other
ones
in
the
works.
I
I
don't
know
where
the
what
land
and
what
locations
are
going
to
be
available
for
the
accessory
uses,
but
I
also
don't
not
sure
that
a
moratorium
would
do
anything
other
than
postpone
the
inevitable
development,
but.
G
G
I
I
also
say
you
know:
I'm
a
free
market
person.
The
market
will
dick
will
dictate
what
what
goes
on
and
if
there's
so
many
apartments
out
there
getting
built
and
there's
not
enough
bodies
to
to
occupy
them.
What's
going
to
be
the
end,
develop
the
end
result.
There
rents
are
going
to
come
back
down
a
little
bit
when
they're,
when
they
can't
put
bodies
in
the
in
in
the
buildings.
G
Rents
come
down,
so
there's
a
balance
there
and
I
think
the
the
market
itself
will
take
care
of
it.
But
I
I
think
the
plan
is,
I
think,
our
our
us
19
plan
in
concept
is
good
and
like,
like
it
says
in
the
report,
it.
B
G
Been
in
place
long
enough
to
really
get
a
an
accurate
feel
for
it,
but
at
this
time
I
don't
see
the
advantage
to
a
moratorium
just
because
I
think
I
ultimately
think
more
term.
All
it's
going
to
do
is
is
postpone
the
inevitable
development
of
these
apartments
and
when
it
builds
apartments,
people
are
going
to
look
for
a
smaller
parcel
to
build
some
storage
units
on
I
it's.
G
Probably,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
can
dictate
the
market.
G
Well,
we
didn't
foresee
we,
we
didn't
foresee
all
of
this,
but
you
know
I
know
denise
mentioned.
G
What's
the
feather
sound,
the
gateway,
the
gateway
development
was
green
space
development.
It
was
and
had
very
few
owners.
It
had
one
major
owner
who
owned
almost
all
of
that
land
at
one
point,
and
that
makes
a
difference.
We
have
how
many
thousands
of
parcels
here
with
how
many
you
know
how
many
different
property
owners
we
are
developed,
we're
a
fully
developed
city.
E
Their
primary
concern
in
doing
so
was
the
parking,
and
that's
where
our
ad
valorem
tax
exemption
was
focused
is
is
providing
them
a
tax
exemption
on
the
investment
in
that
tri-level
parking
deck
that
sits
between
2600
and
26.50,
but
the
real
challenge
along
all
of
us
19
with
our
office
product,
is
that
they
were
all
built
in
the
late
80s,
primarily
with
very
little
parking.
That's
when
everybody
had
big
server
rooms,
big
conference
rooms,
big
private
offices
and
occupancy
within
those
buildings,
was
one
person
to
every
250
square
feet.
E
On
average
in
today's
marketplace,
it's
pushing
very
close
to
100
square
feet
per
employee.
No
before
is
a
great
example
of
that
it's
at
125
pushing
toward
100
it
used
to
be.
You
only
saw
that
in
call
centers
right,
because
this
society,
our
community,
still
relies
on
having
our
own
personal
mode
of
transportation.
E
E
That
changes
the
game
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
what
we
can
redevelop
in
the
density
in
which
we
can
do
it
right
now,
it's
very
difficult
to
lease
our
current
product
out
there,
not
enough
parking
for
the
types
of
uses
that
folks
are
wanting
to
do
in
those
buildings.
Just
doesn't
make
fiscal
sense
for
them.
I
E
Yeah,
we
just
don't
know
how
permanent
that
shift
is
going
to
be
phil.
Kirkpatrick
did
some
analysis
on
that,
based
on
some
some
sort
of
anecdotal
evidence,
if
you
will
that
folks
in
nap
or
uli,
were
talking
about
a
28
space
reduction
in
lease
ups
and
what
that
would
mean
within
multi-tenant
facilities
and
how
to
address
that
as
a
property
owner
as
an
example.
So,
but
we
don't
know
if
that's
a
sustained
28
percent
drop-
and
I
I
think
anybody
would
tell
you,
nobody
knows
not
sure
time
will
tell.
I
So,
first
of
all,
I
really
appreciate
this
report
that
was
written
by
the
planning
department.
It
was,
it
gave
me
a
better
understanding
and
the
historical
perspective,
so
I
have
a
couple
of
things.
So,
if
you
know
us,
19
is
busy
it's
located
nicely
between
our
city
and
other
cities,
it's
easy
to
access
from
the
airport
and
we
want
affordable
housing.
We
want
housing
on
rapid
transit
areas
so
that
people
can
easily
get
on
and
off
or
get
the
bus
right,
affordable,
housing.
I
It's
interesting
that
the
first
housing
developments
are
the
primo
locations
to
get
rent
by
the
water.
So,
okay,
that's
done,
but
we
also
want
high-paying
jobs
in
that
corridor
as
well.
So
it's
that
balance,
and
so
a
couple
of
things
that
I
took
away
from
the
the
summary
is
well
number
one.
We
don't
want
to
have
all
housing
out
there
or
more
housing
out
there
to
make
us
kind
of
a
bedroom
community
and
take
away
from
that
limited
space
for
higher
paying
jobs.
It
would
be
great
to
have
banking.
I
It
would
be
great
to
have
insurance
medical
technology
a
corporate
headquarters.
You
know
something
like
craft
mondelez.
You
know
something
heinz
have
their
corporate
headquarters
here
would
be
wonderful.
I
I
had
a
couple
of
comments
on
on
so
you've
got
we've
got
here.
I
I
I
E
Well,
I
think
it
would
be
a
policy
decision
amongst
you
all,
certainly,
but
what
that
could
look
like
is
you
know,
acquiring
a
site.
It
could
be
partnering
with
a
privately
owned
site
to
make
those
infrastructure
improvements,
perhaps
demolition
and
other
things,
and-
and
certainly
there
would
have
to
be
commitment
on
the
part
of
that
property
owner
and
developer
on
the
types
of
uses.
That
would
then
go
into
that
you
don't
want
to
make
public
investment
that
does
not
yield
the
type
of
benefit
that
you're
seeking.
E
So
you
know,
recapture
clauses
are
quite
common
in
that
respect.
So,
as
I
said,
you
could
acquire
a
site
and
hold
it
for
a
desired
use.
I
know
in
pinellas
county.
That
was
something
that
certainly
in
penny
for
pinellas,
that's
an
opportunity
that
is
is
allowed
within.
That
program
is
acquisition
of
sites
for
desired
use.
It
was
certainly
within
our
2011
economic
development.
Strategic
plan
as
well
is
to
acquire
sites
for
desired
use
also
within
that
is
to
preserve
sites
for
desired
use
in
terms
of
our
zoning.
E
Us
19
allows
for
that,
but
it
also
allows
for
a
lot
of
other
things
within
that
zoning
district
and
that's
the
challenge
that
we're
seeing
here
right.
So
you
can
put
an
office
there.
You
can
put
multi-family
development
there
or
or
many
other
things
like
light,
industrial
retail,
etc.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
answers
your
question,
but
I
think
some
of
you
know
all
of
these
recommendations
about
set-aside
funds
for
certain
activities.
E
E
That
was
very
popular
in
the
90s
and
early
2000s,
but
I
think
making
investment
in
things
that
stay
with
with
us,
even
if
conditions
of
that
tenant
business
change
and
they
move
on
after
a
period
of
time
making
investment
in
infrastructure,
making
investment
in
property,
making
investment
in
clean
up
activities
or
what
have
you?
I
think
all
of
those
things
are
important
to
consider.
I
I
agree,
I
agree
and
along
those
lines
I
have
you
know
the
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
wayfinding
and
the
disappointment
with
fdot
and
not
allowing
us
to
do
that,
and
I
would
say
perhaps
we
you
know,
rally
the
troops
and
put
forth
a
campaign
similar
to
what
we
did
to
get
funding
for
our
rapid
tr,
the
bus
transit
station
on
court
and
myrtle
and
get
all
of
our
community
partners
to
really
put
pressure
on
fdot
I
mean
we
can
have
neighborhood
associations.
Residents
say
we
need
this.
I
I
The
other
thing
is
we've
got.
I
I
E
Sure
those
are
companies.
The
current
program
approved
with
pinellas
county,
is
the
one
that
requires
the
the
business
property
owner
or
developer
to
be
the
applicant,
and
we
just
simply
haven't
seen
qualifying
projects
come
forward.
We
would
write
a
letter
of
support
for
those
that
would
apply
perhaps,
but,
and
we
would
have.
I
Okay,
oh
I
had
a
so
under
the
economic
development
competitiveness.
There
were
a
couple
things:
market,
pinellas,
county's
employment
sites,
program
to
existing
and
new
businesses
and
to
developers
and
then
continue
the
economic
development,
housing
department's,
targeted
marketing
activities,
and
I
think
the
mayor
discussed
that.
But
we've
also
got
encourage
property
business
owners
to
develop
a
business
organization
or
establish
organizations
around
geographic
areas,
and
that
would
be
to
partner
with
amplify
right.
I
Quite
possibly-
and
here
you
know-
for
me,
as
you
know,
the
most
visible
environmentalist
up
here-
is
there
a
way
to
utilize
green
print
and
those
goals,
as
well
as
the
goals
that
the
county
has
adopted
and
other
municipalities
around
us
have
adopted
to
really
put
a
unique
spin
on
reaching
out
to
employers
with
green
industries
or
something
that
makes
sets
us
aside
as
the
beach
community,
the
premier
beach
community,
with
jobs
that
complement
our
goals
and
the
county's
goals.
I
think
that's
a
big
opportunity.
E
Sure
so
you
know
when
we're
talking
about
health,
wellness
and
sustainability
with
within
the
community.
We
know
that
ceos
resonate
with
that
message
because
that's
what
their
employees
care
about,
and
so
we
do
have
opportunity
there.
Certainly
it's
not
one
that
we've
fully
explored,
but
that
certainly
can
be
a
part
of
that
communication.
E
Those
email
campaigns,
if
you
will
and
otherwise,
because
for
ceos.
We
know
that
that's
an
important
component.
I
think
the
great
challenge
for
us
in
really
delivering
that
message
is
in
part
the
fact
that
we
do
not
have
a
solid
public
transportation
system
here,
and
so
it's
very
difficult
to
sort
of
walk
that
walk,
no
pun
intended
when
a
key
element
perhaps
is
missing
in
some
of
that
decision
making
from
those
ceos.
E
I
J
J
That
was
a
good
vision
and,
and
I
I
think
that
we
still
try
to
maintain
that
as
best
we
can.
I
know
the
market,
you
can't
legislate
the
market
it
comes
in,
but
the
way
I
see
it,
we
are
stewards
of
the
development
on
u.s,
19
and
we'd
like
to
see
it
go
through
now.
I
know
people
one
of
the
concerns
is
these
storage
centers.
J
You
know
just
going
out
out
of
control.
As
far
as
I
know,
we've
got
two
of
them
and,
as
far
as
I
know,
they
were
on
awkwardly
kind
of
weird
shaped
lots
and
I
do
think
it
fills
a
need.
I
don't
think
there's
going
to
be
a
a
bunch
of
them
that
are
going
to
be
approved
to
go
everywhere
up
and
down
us-19,
but
you
also
got
to
understand
that
florida's
getting
a
big
influx
of
people
from
the
north,
coming
down
with
all
their
stuff
and
they've
got
basements
up
there.
J
You
know
they
don't
know
that
when
they
move
to
florida
that
all
that
stuff,
that's
in
their
basement
has
got
to
go
somewhere.
So
I
do
think
that
it
fills
a
need
even
with
me.
I
never
even
knew
what
a
basement
was
until
about
30
years
ago,
and
I
went
out
and
I
go
wow
you
know
again.
I
still
have
a
storage
unit
for
some
of
my
stuff
when
this
was
first
brought
up
and
the
word
moratorium
was
mentioned.
J
It
really
made
me
shocked
because
I'm
probably
the
only
one
on
the
dice
here
that
been
through,
I
was
in
business
in
the
70s,
and
I
saw
when
the
first
moratorium
came
in
in
the
70s,
the
effect
that
it
had
on
the
building
industry,
because
I
was
in
it
and
the
first
effect
was
almost
like
a
shock
wave
on
an
atomic
bomb
that
goes
out
throughout
the
community
and
not
just
a
little
command.
I
mean
it
goes
out
regionally
saying
do
not
come
here.
J
J
We
can
make
that
happen
there
and
if
it's
on
a
plan
that
goes
through
fort
pinellas
and
we
have
regional,
you
know,
people
can
make
it
happen.
D.O.T
will
go
with
it.
J
I
think
we
ought
to
give
it
another
chance
to
go
through.
I
think
we
have
a
good
leader
in
dot
now
that
listens
to
our
needs,
and
I
think
we
can
make
that
happen,
so
I'm
going
to
bring
it
forward
if
clearwater
would
like
to
ford
pinellas
and
see.
If
we
can
talk
about,
you
know
getting
the
dot
on
board
with
that.
E
Council,
member
beckman,
you
mentioned
those
business
organizational
groups,
those
five
or
six
colors
of
the
various
sorts
of
districts
in
the
wayfinding
program.
That's
really
what
I
was
referring
to
in
terms
of
recommending
that
they
coalesce.
If
we're
able
to
implement
around
sort
of
those
district
areas,
the
countryside
area
as
an
example,
they
can
leverage
marketing
activities
and,
and
the
like
in
doing
so.
So
that's
what
that
is
referring
to
I'd,
also
be
remiss
gina
would
is
probably
jumping
in
her
chair
self
storage
is
allowed.
C
Yeah
thanks,
I
was,
I
was
going
to
try
to
address
the
self
storage,
so
we
do,
as
denise
said,
allow
self-storage
in
the
corridor
areas.
We
do
not
allow
it
in
the
neighborhood
center
and
then
the
two
amendments
that
were
done
limited
the
availability
of
use
to
self-storage.
All
three
of
those
sites
have
come
forward.
Obviously,
two
under
construction.
C
C
A
C
Again,
I
think,
there's
a
big
legal
question
to
put
in
place
and
in
fact
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
the
one
self
storage
unit
that's
beside
dick
sporting
good
use,
tdrs
in
addition
to
the
2.5
far
they
got
tdrs
from
a
storm
water
pond
owned
by
fdot
and
in
fact
the
other
project
that
withdrew
also
was
getting
tdrs.
So
they're
maxing
out
a
2.5
far
and
they
have
very,
they
have
virtually
no
parking
requirement
because
of
the
code,
amendments
that
were
passed.
C
I
would,
I
would
say
in
name
they
are
mixed
use,
we'll
see.
Actually
if
they
have
any
users
occupy
the
space.
I
think
that
you
see
a
lot
of
issues
going
on
out
across
the
country.
In
fact,
we
just
saw
an
article
about
this
issue
and
about
the
ability
to
fill
mixed-use
space
in
a
lot
of
a
project,
so
I
guess
time
will
tell
whether
they
actually
complete
it.
I
mean
on
paper,
yes,
but
it's
only
maybe
five
thousand
four
thousand
square
feet.
It's
very
minimal.
K
And
thank
you
again
for
the
report.
As
I
was
reading
it,
it's
a
terrific
report.
I
was
thinking
this
is
not
a
case
of.
If
you
build
that
they
will
come
we're
in
the
situation
of.
If
we
plan
it
will
they
build
so
all
those
incentives
that
we're
talking
about,
I,
I
think,
are
going
to
be
really
important.
The
the
wayfinding
objections
was
that,
because
fdot
thought
that
this
is
going
to
lead
to
everybody
up
and
down
all
the
corridors
asking
for
their
own
signage.
C
That
did
come
up
in
our
conversations
as
well.
I
guess
my
preference
would
be
to
approach
this
as
a
city
matter,
because
we
already
have
a
plan
developed
and
we
like
to
move
forward,
but
that
was
one
of
the
concerns
they
articulated
that
we
don't
need
way
finding
everywhere
way.
Finding
is
not
something
that
should
be,
and
I
think
we
just
have
a
very
fundamental
philosophical
disagreement
with
them.
C
Yeah
our
consultants
worked
hard
on
it
and
we'll
see
the
benefits
in
downtown,
because
at
least
that
portion
of
the
project
is
moving
forward.
A
Well,
I
see
a
way
forward.
I
know
I
got
everyone
wrangled,
which
I
don't
apologize
for.
We've
talked
about
moratoriums
two
other
times
in
the
history
of
the
city
that
I've
been
on
the
council.
We
didn't
necessarily
do
them,
but
it
always
fostered
some
real
good
conversations.
A
Fortunately,
one
of
the
times
we
discussed
it,
it
did
change
the
trajectory
of
the
area
that
we
were
concerned
with,
which
was
conversion
of
hotels
and
condominiums
on
the
beach
where
we
wanted
to
keep
a
tourist
environment.
That
doesn't
mean
that
we
don't
want
condos,
but
we
didn't
want
to
lose
the
overnight
accommodations,
which
is
really
an
economic
driver.
A
A
B
A
Think
that
it
is
appropriate,
sometimes
that
you
need
to
sweeten
the
pot
so
to
speak
for
the
right
kind
of
development
that
is
going
to
improve
the
overall
environment
of
the
city.
I
would
hope
the
council
member
beckman,
as
she
said,
is
the
primary
environmentalist
on
the
group.
I
I
have
the
benefit
of
driving
10
blocks
to
get
to
my
job
that
improves
the
fact
that
I
don't
drive
many
miles
per
year
with
my
automobile
about
six.
A
It
improves
my
quality
of
life.
Immeasurably
I
drive
over
to
tampa
occasionally
to
see
a
client
and
rip
my
hair
out.
That's
why
I
have
less
and
less,
and
I
can't
imagine
doing
that
commute
on
a
daily
basis.
A
I
think
it
should
be
one
of
our
main
objectives
to
have
more
employment
centers
within
the
city
of
clearwater
that
our
residents
can
work
at
and
they
don't
need
to
travel
as
far
and
that
helps
everybody.
So
great
conversation
we're
going
to
take
five
minute
recess
before
we
go
into
our
next
work
session.
A
A
A
A
A
A
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
D
Good
morning,
mr
lane,
good
morning,
thank
you
chuck
lane
economic
development
housing
department.
This
property
is
comprised
of
five
plotted
lots
each
ranging
between
five
thousand
and
seventy
four
hundred
square
feet.
The
city
purchased
the
locks
in
2018
to
be
temporarily
used
as
a
staging
site
during
construction
of
the
clearwater
gas
complex.
That
project
is
complete
and
these
no
lock
these
lots
are
no
longer
needed
for
any
city
purposes.
D
So
the
city
is
going
to
process
the
land
use
and
zoning
change
on
the
institutional
loss
while
we
still
own
them-
and
this
is
going
to
take
some
time
so
we'll
close
on
the
residential
zone-
lots
first
likely
within
the
next
couple
of
months
and
then
we'll
close
on
the
remaining
two
lots.
When
that
process
is
complete,
so
I'll
take
questions
please
well.
A
M
Good
morning,
mayor
council,
jim
hallios,
director
of
parks,
recreation,
I'm
bringing
this
item
back
before
you
that
was
originally
presented
in
december
of
2021
for
a
locally
funded
agreement
between
the
state
of
florida,
d.o.t
and
the
city
of
clearwater.
I
know
there
was
some
initial
questions
regarding
when
this
project
was
actually
funded
and
through
research.
This
project
came
up
through
the
cip
process
and
was
funded
by
council
in
fiscal
year,
2017
2018
and
with
that
I'd,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Well,
I'm
the
one
that
really
delayed
this.
I
still
would
have
liked
to
have
seen
what
a
ground
level
crossing
would
have
cost.
Nobody
can
seem
to
get
me
that
information,
mr
blanton,
a
ford
pinellas,
is
a
huge
proponent
of
this.
Of
course
he
lives
right
next
to
it
and
is
a
biker,
but
everybody
can
draw
their
own
conclusions
on
that
one.
I
find
it
interesting
that
we've
never
looked
as
closely
at
according
chestnut,
because
they're
heavily
used
as
well,
and
we
don't
have
a
true
crossing.
A
All
we
have
is
the
flashing
yellows,
but
I
understand
that
fdot
is
going
to
go
forward
with
this
project
in
the
enhanced,
with
the
enhanced
design
that
the
city
had
asked
for
whether
we
support
it
or
not.
A
I'm
gonna
support
it,
the
million
dollars
that
we
basically
necessitated
for
better
design.
I
think
it
is
gonna
block
a
lot
of
the
views
and
I
think
this
could
have
been
done
at
ground
level
rather
than
spending
the
enormous
amount
of
money,
but
I
am
going
to
support
it.
Vice.
G
So
this
is
what
you
have
to
do
to
meet
it,
and
I
know
I've
recommended
in
many
places
or
numerous
times
before
us
19,
the
new
us-19
overpass,
being
one
of
them
pedestrian,
overpasses,
being
getting
ready
to
be
built.
G
It
might
did
it
did
we
even
look
or
did
fdot
even
look
at
a
tunnel
tunnel
underneath
instead
of
over
top
you
can
you
meet
the
ada
requirements,
much
easier
going
with
a
tunnel,
but
I
given
this
is
fairly
close
to
the
water.
So
it's
you
know
it's.
You
know,
I'm
not
sure
the
the
physics
of
it
I'd
people
smarter
than
I
would
be
able
to
do
it,
but
I
don't
know
if
it
was
even
even
looked
at,
but
given
the
volume
of
the
traffic
volume
of
traffic
that
this
road
services.
G
Having
an
unimpeded
pedestrian
access
to
get
across,
it
makes
sense.
I
just
you
know,
the
mass
of
the
of
the
the
project
is
just
you
know,
mind-boggling.
I
I
would
say,
rather
than
government
gone
wild.
I
think
we
honor
our
commitments.
We
had
a
verbal
commitment,
we
asked
for
this.
We
are
looking
to
improve
safety.
We've
had
articles
recently
that
you
know,
pinellas
county
leads
the
nation
in
fatalities.
We
want
to
keep
this
safe
and
we
do
have
ada
requirements
and
rather
than
you
know,
sigh
or
roll
our
eyes
about
ada
requirements.
I
They
are
what
they
are,
and
this
is
what
we
need
in
order
for
people
who
are
compromised
with
mobility
to
be
able
to
cross
the
road
safely,
and
it's
good
for
bikers.
It's
good
for
walkers,
it's
good
for
elderly,
it's
good
for
everyone.
So
I'm
happy
that
it's
it's
going
forward
and-
and
I
don't
think
it's
some
gaudy
monstrosity
promotions-
11..
I
think
it'll
look
it'll,
look
just
fine!
A
I
A
I
A
A
K
Yes,
as
a
member
of
the
courtney
campbell
causeway
board,
I
happy
to
see
us
furthering
our
our
commitment
to
this.
Our
our
side
of
the
courtney
campbell
causeway
seems
to
be
in
really
terrific
shape.
What
problems
there
are
seem
to
exist
over
on
the
tampa
side
and
they're
working
on
that.
K
M
And
just
a
couple
points
of
clarification,
one
this
is
in
the
final
design
we're
gonna
have
about.
You
know
kind
of
three
iterations
that
we'll
be
able
to
share
once
we
get
in
that
project
and
that
far
into
the
project,
and
then
we
did
when
we
did
speak
with
dot,
they
did
indicate
that
even
if
we
did
not
fund
through,
they
would
not
fund
the
the
beautification
part
of
it.
So
it
would
just
be.
If
we
had
backed
out
it
would
have
been
a
standard
overpass.
J
Albright
yeah,
I
just
wore
this
from
the
beginning.
You
know
this
was
something
was
delayed
a
year
or
so
ago
and
then
came
back
with
the
funding
for
dots
paying
most
of
it,
almost
all
of
it.
The
design
that
changed
was
at
the
behest
of
clearwater,
but
I
I
think
we
have
a
real
problem
in
pinellas
county
and
in
clearwater
of
having
very
dangerous
streets
and
there's
a
safe
street
project.
That's
going
on
right
now
that
you're
going
to
hear
a
lot
more
about
on
how
we
can
make
it
our
streets
more
safer
for
pedestrians.
J
Now
this
is
a
major,
a
major
trail
connection
that
goes
from
courtney
campbell
all
through
our
trail
system.
A
lot
of
people
are
going
to
be
using
this
and
to
herd
them
across
at
street
level.
I
think
is,
is
not
being
the
safest
way
to
do
this.
We
will
have
deaths.
If
that
happens,
even
in
a
stoplight
people
will
get
run
over.
J
So
this
is
really
a
good
plan.
I'm
glad
we're
going
forward
with
it.
As
far
as
the
trail
that
we
have
coming
across
eight
lanes
in
downtown
clearwater,
I
think
something
like
this.
Would
be
too
big
for
the
entrance
to
our
city.
However,
we
are
looking
at
plans
to
take
people
down
turner
street
orange,
and
then
you
know
down
the
little
ramp
through
the
park
and
then
back
up
to
true
street
without
really
having
to
cross
eight
lanes
of
traffic.
J
You
know
in
the
downtown
area,
so
I
hope
this.
This
goes
forward.
L
N
Good
morning,
dance,
lard,
chief
of
police.
This
item
is
for
a
video
and
data
collection,
collaboration
platform
for
the
police
department's
real-time
crime
center.
This
product
takes
the
multiple
data
points
available
to
and
presents
them
to,
the
the
analyst
or
the
detective
and
what's
referred
to
as
a
single
pane
of
glass,
so
that
single
display
map
will
show
the
users
the
available
video
cameras
in
the
area,
license
plate
reader
locations
officer
locations
and
and
make
that
available
to
the
analysts
and
the
detectives.
N
It'll
provide
the
ability
for
the
public
to
provide
us
video
data
photos
in
a
in
a
collaborative
way
so
that
it
can
be
quickly
attained
much
like
if
you
are
familiar
with
the
the
manner
in
which
they
investigated
the
boston
marathon
bombing.
They
took
millions
and
millions
of
data
points
and
just
had
to
analyze
them,
and
this
will
allow
us
to
have
a
scalable
platform,
so
they
won't.
You
know
crash
a
system
trying
to
gather
that
information,
an
emergency.
N
It
is
95
000
a
year
for
three
years
we
are
asking
for
the
purchasing
authority
also
in
case
we
need
them
for
the
additional
core
devices.
The
core
devices
is
that
device
that
makes
those
other
private
security
cameras
accessible
to
us
individually
and
provide
up
to
three
thousand
data
points
and
with
this
particular
43,
core
devices
included,
and
it
also
has
a
an
analyst
function
that
allows
video
data
to
be
analyzed,
to
look
for
particular
pictures
photos
of
a
say
like
a
red
car
or
a
child,
or
something
that
nature
rapidly.
I
So
this
sounded
really
interesting.
This
agenda
item
I
put
like
talk
about
big
brother,
but
okay,
so
if
I
own
a
business
in
a
higher
crime
area
and
agree,
so
this
it's
called
fuses
right.
Yes,.
O
I
So
this
fuses
core
device.
Do
I
pay
for
it?
Do
I
put
it
on
my
camera
or
you
just
mentioned
a
registry?
So
if
I
have
a
business
and
a
camera,
I
can
register
with
a
clearwater
police
department
says
I've
got
this
camera
if
there's
ever
crime
in
the
area.
Please
know
that
I
have
a
camera.
You
can
ask
to
view
some
of
my
footage.
N
Yes,
there's
multiple
ways:
the
registry
is
one
simple
system.
If
you
don't
want
us
to
have
access
to
it,
you
can
simply
say
we
have
cameras
they're
here
available,
here's
a
contact
information.
If
and
then
we
can
say
we
need
to.
Let's
refer
to
his
canvas,
a
neighborhood
to
look
for
video.
We
can
just
send
it
out
to
all
the
contacts
they
check
their
own
if
they
have
something
they
send
it
to
us.
That's
the
registry.
N
The
core
device
is
a
device
that
actually
can
be
attached
to
their
security
platform
and
allow
us
to
see
their
cameras.
Whichever
cameras
they
choose
to
give
us.
It's
all
voluntary
and
although
some
people
may
refer
to
us
as
big
brother,
we're
like
actually
the
middle
son
or
the
young
brother,
facebook
is
your
big
brother,
but
so
so
it's
all
voluntary
and
there
is
there's
no
obligation
where
I
see
the
we
have
some
devices
that
we
would
potentially
purchase
and
also
somewhere.
We
may
say
you
know
this
is.
N
If
you
want
to
do
it,
you
can
you
can
do
it
and
let
the
business
pay
for
it,
but
you
know
think
about
you
know
a
countryside
mall.
So
if
we
have
an
active
shooter,
we
want
to
have
a
core
device
there.
So
we
can
access
the
cameras
in
a
very
seamless,
quick
way.
N
Those
are
the
variety
the
partnerships
we're
looking
to
leverage.
If
a
bank
a
bank
has
security
videos
and
the
alarm
goes
off,
this
cad
data
would
pop
up
on
this
fuselage
platform.
We'd
be
immediately,
be
able
to
access
the
video
camera
and
see
if
they're
being
robbed
right
now,
we're
not
looking
to
you
know,
see
who's
going.
What.
I
I'm
all
for
you
know
if
we're
out
in
public,
and
there
are
cameras
it's
okay.
To
I
mean
I
don't
have
a
big
problem
with
cameras
out
in
public
and
to
keep
people
honest
and
safe.
One
of
the
questions
I
have
is
if
we
have
a
business
that
wants
to
that
wants
to
have
one
of
our
devices
put
on
it.
We
pay
for
that
device
to
put
on
their
existing
camera
right.
N
They'll
be
strategic
decisions
that
we
would
have
to
make
if
it's
the
mall,
I'm
probably
going
to
do
it
because
there's
significant
value
to
me
for
like
the
mall,
if
it's
you
know
small
mom
and
pop
business,
and
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
crime
in
the
area
and
there's
no
kind
of
business
purpose
argument
that
I
can
make
for
us
to
do
it.
Then,
of
course
we
would
you
know,
and
they
can
be
they're
transportable
too.
N
If
we
have
a
crime
problem,
we
can
use
one
of
our
devices
here
and
once
the
problem
you
know
debates,
we
can
move
on.
Okay,.
I
I
Okay
and
then.
N
N
Though
real
quick
on
that
for
me
to
be
in,
like
the
residential
community
would
be
probably
a
little
more
it'd
have
to
be
a
significant
issue
for
the
privacy,
see,
there's
a
difference
to
me
between
being
in
the
commercial
space
and
then
the
residents
in.
I
Your
neighborhood
okay
and
then
I
have
a
note
that
this
is
ninety
five
thousand
dollars
at
a
cost
of
ninety
five
thousand
000
a
year.
So
do
we
have
any
sense
of
how
many
outside
entities
will
choose
to
participate?
Can
it
be
a
lower
cost
initially,
because
it's
a
three-year
contract
at
95.
N
So
the
this
it's
kind
of
a
subscription
price,
and
it
includes
many
of
the
core
devices
that
we
intend
to
need
already.
The.
N
The
the
subscription
is
for
the
multiple
data
points
that
I
mentioned,
and
so,
when
you
start
thinking
about
all
those
data
points
we're
talking
about
the
city
of
clearwater's
cameras,
you
know
our
750
cameras,
the
cameras
that
we
want
to
leverage
on,
say,
beach,
walk
and
some
of
the
other
high
high
high
dense
areas.
So
I
think
that
the
price
is
really
what
we
believe
we
need,
and
and
the
first
year
we'll
pay
for
out
of
the
forfeiture
funds
and
then
we'll
budget
for
it
moving
forward.
Okay,.
I
N
See
in
the
the
agreement
there's
kind
of
a
two-phased
implementation
and
we
don't
get
billed
until
phase
one
is
complete
and
phase
two
starts.
So
we
kind
of
tried
to
make
sure
that
we
protected
ourselves
from
that
particular
space
so
that
we
weren't
paying
for
nothing
for
six
months
but
yeah.
Okay,.
I
N
Yeah
I
mean
I
don't
I
don't
necessarily
perceive
that
as
a
high-risk
problem,
I
mean
if
they're
vandalized
or
something
by
some.
You
know
employee
of
the
business
that,
for
whatever
reason,
has
an
issue
with
it.
It'd
be
a
criminal
initiative.
It'd
be
a
crime
and
we'd
hold
him
accountable
for
it.
Okay,
hopefully
get
him
on
camera.
I
Okay
and
then
I
just
I
think
you
answered
this
question,
but
I
have
the
last
sentence:
does
future
fiscal
year
funding
mean
after
the
three-year
agreement
or
within
the
22-23
budget,.
A
Other
questions
are
there
any
any
follow-on
items
that
you
could
anticipate?
I
mean.
B
A
N
I
I
don't
see
I
mean
I
always
think:
there's
gonna
be
growth
in
this
space.
Potentially
I
mean
I
could
see
the
expansion
of
license
plate
readers,
I'm
not
in
the
near
future.
I
don't,
but
I
I
don't
think
this
is
gonna,
be
like
one
and
done.
I
think
over
time,
you're
going
to
see
this
technology
continue
to
become
more
prevalent
and
and
it'll
expand.
N
So
I
guess
the
answer
to
that
is.
I
don't
think
this
is
when
it
done
this
fuchsias
platform.
Actually,
will
I
mean
there
is
going
to
be
some
offset
cost
because
we
have
a
product
called
live
earth
that
was
kind
of
complementary
to
this
and
another
one
called
briefcam.
Those
two
will
probably
fall
off
and
this
one
will
be
able
to
do
all
of
those
things
and
the
single
pane
of
glass
function
that
we
need
so
as
technology
evolve
evolves.
A
So
we
have
subscriptions
with
axon
we're
going
to
have
one
here,
but
we
own
the
equipment.
N
A
Yeah,
so
what
is
the
useful
life
of
the
equipment
itself?
I'd
have
to
get
that
replacing
these
every
three
years.
No.
A
O
Mayor
council,
dan
mayer,
I
t
director,
so
the
the
core
devices
are
an
encoder
that
allows
us
to
view
any
camera.
So
the
reason
we
steered
to
fuses
is
it's
an
open
platform,
meaning
we're
not
bound
to
use
a
specific
type
of
camera
or
a
specific
manufacturer,
and
the
core
devices
allow
us
to
get
over
the
threshold
to
use
cameras
on
someone
else's
network,
and
it
brings
it
in
in
a
fashion
that
can
be
displayed
on
the
fuses
product.
So
these
sit
in
a
rack
and
a
closet.
O
They
really
should
have
a
much
longer
lifespan.
I
would
think
five
years
is
very
reasonable.
They're
they're,
not
a
wear
and
tear
item,
it's
an
electronic
gateway,
but
all
electronics
are
hot
right,
but
you're
you're,
not
really
changing.
Throughput
should
not
be
an
issue
with
these.
It's
more
about
encryption
and
and
controlled
access.
So
I
don't
anticipate
these.
O
Unlike
cameras,
cameras
keep
getting
more
sophisticated
higher
resolution,
so
these
devices
should-
and
these
are
a
nominal
cost,
so
we
buy
them
in
bunches
right,
so
he'll
have
40
some
and
then,
if
he
exceeds
that
we'll
buy
another
lot
of
40
or
50,
as
as
business
demand
dictates.
O
H
Morning,
council,
cat
corker
and
senior
landscape
architect
with
engineering
department
we're
presenting
a
change
order
for
the
value
of
one
million,
two
hundred
nine
thousand
one
hundred
and
ten
dollars
and
fifteen
cents
to
account
for
unforeseen
conditions.
Once
we
started
working
on
construction
on
cleveland
street,
in
addition
to
staff,
requested
changes
in
materials
and
a
contingency
bump,
so
that
I
don't
have
to
come,
do
this
again.
A
And
how
much
underground
work
were?
Normally
those
unexpected
situations
occur
that
we
have,
or
we've
done
underground.
H
No
we're
not
done
underground
we're
in
phase
two
of
four
right
now
we're
approaching
shifting
over
to
phase
three
pretty
quickly
here
in
spring,
I
would
say
we
are
approaching
forty
percent
of
the
way
through
the
entire
project.
This
also
does
include
a
63-day
contract
extension.
I
forgot
to
mention
that
this
section
of
cleveland
street
and
the
spoke
of
gulf
today
that
we're
talking
about
is
an
extremely
old
roadway,
and
so
you
really
never
know
exactly
what
you're
going
to
get
until
you
get
there.
H
We
are
encountering
a
lot
of
abandoned,
like
abandoned
lines.
We
don't
know
are
abandoned
numerous
private
utilities
that
didn't
come
up
on
our
initial
811
locate,
so
you
have
to
coordinate
with
those
and
then
there
are
additional
conflict.
Excuse
me:
conflicts
with
city
infrastructure
that
you
know.
Maybe
we
need
to
upgrade
this.
We
didn't
know
it
was
there
while,
where
we're
just
we've
got
it
open,
we
don't
want
to
open
it
again
down
the
line.
Does
that
answer
your
question.
A
Pretty
much
so
there
can
still
be
some
unanticipated.
J
Albrecht
yeah,
we
ran
into
this
when
we
did
the
streetscape
on
cleveland
street.
You
know
downtown
in
downtown
core
hit,
so
many
things
we
didn't
know
were
there
so
almost
have
to
know
you're
going
to
do
that.
This
something
that's
old.
I
I
just
I
just
wanted
clarification.
You
used
the
phrase,
numerous
private
utilities
and
and
in
the
legislative
text
it
says,
and
with
existing
private
utilities.
What
are
private
utilities
is
that,
like
utilities
on
private
property,.
H
A
P
Good
morning,
jeremy
brown
engineering
manager,
the
northeast
water
reclamation
facility,
has
eight
secondary
clarifiers.
Each
one
has
its
own
sluice
skate.
Excuse
me:
that's
used
to
distribute
the
flows
evenly
last
year,
two
of
those
sluice
gates
failed,
making
two
of
the
clarifiers
inoperable
the
work
before
the
work
order
before
you
today
is
for
engineering
design
services
associated
with
replacing
all
of
the
slu
skates.
In
addition
to
some
other
miscellaneous
repairs,
I'm
happy
to
respond
to
any
questions.
Questions
for
mr
brown.
I
I
just
have
a
couple
for
learning,
so
so
this
started
four
years
ago,
so
now
we're
paying
the
engineer
of
record
an
additional
155
000
to
continue
to
study
and
determine
what
we
need
to
improve
this
east
water
reclamation
facility,
and
this
will
take
about
a
year
and
it
will
look
at
encompassing
it'll
encompass
looking
at
potential
resiliency
improvements.
P
P
I
mean,
I
don't
know
how
my
notes
got
in
the
line
in
the
wrong
order
here
flip
to
the
wrong
page,
so
we're
on
the
the
east
plant
water
reclamation
facility,
filter
feed.
I'm
sorry
about
that.
Excuse
me.
The
east
water
reclamation
facility
has
a
filter,
feed
pump
station,
that
pumps
clarifier
effluent
to
the
downstream
sand
filters
due
to
age
condition
and
risk
consequence
of
failure.
The
filter,
feed
pump
station
and
its
associated
30
inch
diameter
force
may
need
to
be
rehabilitated
and
or
replaced.
P
A
I
I
Yeah,
probably
so
so
anyway,
so
we've
we've
got,
you
know,
so
the
language
says
due
to
age,
condition
and
risk
consequence
of
failure,
discharge,
piping
valves.
All
this,
you
know
high-tech
stuff,
you
know
it's,
it
needs
repair
and
it's
right
on
the
bay.
That's
right
on
the
water.
So
part
of
my
thing
was
you
know
four
years
it
started
four
years
ago
now
we're
going
to
pay
some
more
to
continue
this
study
to
determine
what
we
need
to
improve
this
and
how
it's
going
to
be
improved.
I
It's
going
to
take
about
a
year
for
this
study
right,
155,
000
study.
Then
we
go
out
for
a
bid
to
do
the
improvements
right
and
so
then
so
then
it
seems
like
this
can
be
a
six
to
seven
year
long
process
to
get
this
thing
fixed,
that's
right!
On
the
water,
that's
critical
and,
and
that's
got
you
know
this
high
risk
of
consequence
of
failure,
but
that's
just
for
my
education.
That's
just
the
way,
the
timeline
that
these
things
happen.
No.
P
That's
not
our
preferred
timeline.
Obviously
the
work
began
in
2018
like
it
says
there
before
you.
We
had.
We
had
to
call
pause
on
the
project
because
we
didn't
have
the
resources
to
continue
managing
it,
and
so
there
was
a
couple
year
kind
of
a
delay
and
now
we're
resurrecting
the
project
right
now
to
move
forward
with
it,
as
it
says,
on
the
bottom.
We
anticipate
this
will
be
done
without
a
year
and
then
we'll
go
to
bid
and
it
may
take
maybe
six
months
to
a
year
to
actually
construct
it.
Q
P
P
P
Well,
there's
there's
eight
total
there's
two
of
them
failed.
The
rest
aren't
in
any
better
condition.
They
they're
all
installed
around
the
same
planet,
so
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
replace
all
of
them.
Yeah.
A
P
Are
mechanical?
There's
there's
a
around.
You
know
it's
a
valve
well,
they're
gates
they
slide
up
and
down
right
and
so,
depending
on
whether
they're,
open
or
closed
they're
gonna
allow
the
flows
to
go
through
there,
and
so
the
way
this
works
is
there's
two
well
column,
trains.
So
imagine
four
clusters
of
circles
and
there's
a
channel.
P
I
P
R
Morning,
city
council,
mr
mayor
jeremy,
house
house
city's
parking
manager.
I
come
to
you
today.
The
parking
system
must
do
your
approval
to
purchase
for
genotech
mobile
lpr
units
will
be
permanently
mounted
in
parking
enforcement
vehicles.
This
is
to
replace
and
enhance
our
current
lpr
capabilities
that
have
been
ongoing
since
2019.
I
So
this
was
another
real
interesting
agenda
item
so.
I
So
we
have
so
it
says
that
these
license
plate.
Readers
will
allow
the
operator
to
check
hundreds
of
vehicles
per
minute
while
the
enforcement
vehicle
is
in
motion
which
improves
efficiencies,
speeds,
workflow
and
improve
safety
for
the
operators,
they
don't
need
to
walk
amongst
vehicles
as
frequently
so
that
sounds
like
wow.
You
know
100
hundreds
per
minute,
okay,
so
then
we've
got
you
know.
The
cost
of
the
equipment
is
a
hundred
and
forty
seven
thousand
dollars.
Shipping
is
eight
thousand
three
year.
Maintenance
is
twelve
thousand.
I
R
That's
correct:
the
standard
warranty
is
one
year.
Preventive
maintenance
obviously
keeps
up.
We
could
purchase
an
extended
warranty
it's,
but
it's
like
35
000
for
the
extended
warranty.
You
can
buy
a
lot
of
parts
for
35
000
so
anytime
within
the
first
year,
though,
if
we
feel
like
we
want
to
go
that
way,
we
can.
We
can
do
that,
but
at
this
point
for
thirty
five
thousand
dollars.
R
I
And
then
I'm
thinking,
okay,
how
did
you
arrive
at
four
of
them
and
you
know:
will
this
take
the
place
of
how
many
parking
enforcement
officers,
and
so
what
is
the
cost
of
four
officers
versus
the
cost
of
this
program
and
what
is
the
potential
revenue
generated
from
the
officers
versus
revenue
generated
from
this
technology?
So
I
kind
of
looked
at
this
as
a
similar
to
a
synergistics
or
whatever
does
this
stuff
pay
for
itself?
I
R
We
currently
have
two
that
are
kind
of
into
life,
so
we
want
to
replace
those
and
put
two
more
there's
really
no
plan
at
this
point
for
to
replace
an
employee.
This
is
to
enhance
their
capabilities
as
they
currently
are.
We
do
that
the
enforcement
is
kind
of
an
entry
level
position.
We
got
a
lot
of
folks
coming
in
and
and
moving
on
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
so
we
were
just
kind
of
celebrating
a
little
bit.
We
finally
had
all
of
our
positions
filled.
R
R
Obviously,
the
the
hundreds
per
minute-
that's
that's
real
data,
but
it's
that's
in
a
perfect
environment,
you
know
kind
of
a
test
environment,
you
line
them
all
up
and
you
can
drive
down
the
road
at
35
40
miles
an
hour
and
it'll
read
them.
Obviously,
that's
not
going
to
be
the
you
know,
the
true
application
when
they're
up
maneuvering
through
parking
lots
and
that
sort
of
thing.
R
So
I
mean
this
is
used
mostly
to
well
for
the
purpose
of
enforcement.
Are
our
enforcement
last
year,
revenue
from
from
parking
tickets,
which
is
basically
what
this
assists
them
in
issuing
was
in
excess
of
a
million
dollars?
Okay,.
I
And
then
I
guess
I
had
one
question
about
the
distinction
between
permit
and
scoff
laws.
A
permit
somebody
who's
got
a
permit
that
doesn't
park
the
right
place.
R
Right
so
so
this
this
it
integrates
with
our
permitting
sys
software,
as
well
as
our
mobile
payment
and
our
kiosks.
So
all
those
things
are
telling
the
system
license.
Plate
abc123
is
paid
for
you
know
this
period
of
time
or
this
vehicle
has
a
permit.
It's
a
beach,
employee
and
they're
allowed
to
park
in
this
lot.
So
that's
how
it's
it's
identifying,
all
those
you
know
and
as
they
click
buy
them,
it's
reading
them
good,
good,
good,
good,
good!
Oh
this
one's
not
paid
doesn't
have
a
permit
address.
It.
P
Again,
jeremy
brown
engineering
manager,
the
potable
water
wastewater
collection
and
storm
water
systems
along
fort
harrison
or
aging
beyond
their
useful
life
that
must
be
replaced.
The
work
order
before
you
today
is
to
design
the
replacement
of
all
underground
utilities,
including
a
new
reclaimed.
Water
main,
in
addition
to
full
depth
roadway
reconstruction
also
included,
are
traffic,
analyses
and
intersection
evaluations
that
will
look
to
promote
safe,
accessible
and
healthy
travel
for
all
users.
With
that,
I'm
happy
to
respond
to
any
questions.
I
You've
got
here
in
the
it
says:
the
project
scope
includes
utility
design
and
you're
going
through
that,
in
addition
to
recommending
means
of
incorporating
green
infrastructure
and
sustainability
to
align
with
green
print
2.0,
can
you
just
expand
on
what
that
looks
like
there.
A
P
Well,
yeah,
there's
roads,
storm
water,
water,
sewer,
reclaimed,
water
they're,
all
in
the
is
it
all
budgeted
they're.
All
in
this.
It
says
here
on
the
bottom
here:
they're
all
in
the
fort
harrison
reconstruction
capital,
improvement,
project
c,
two
one
zero
two.
S
Tara
kibbett
engineering
director,
so
yes,
obviously,
the
bulk
of
this
funding
will
come
later
during
the
construction
phase.
Construction
is
always
significantly
more
than
design,
and
most
of
this
project
will
be
funded
by
the
enterprise
fund
development
agreement.
T
Thank
you
mark
perry,
planning
and
development.
This
project,
or
this
proposal
will
add
three
parcels
to
a
previously
approved
overall
project
that
was
going
to
have
a
hotel
on
it.
There's
been
no
changes
to
any
aspect
of
the
application
since
the
council
meeting
of
january
20th.
If
there
are
any
questions
on
this
I'd,
be
happy
to
try
to
answer
them
for
you.
O
Mayor
council,
dan
mayer,
I.t
director,
we
came
to
you
in
september
and
approved
the
wireless
contract
for
the
coming
year.
Due
to
the
pandemic,
the
state
was
behind
on
renewing
their
contract
licensing
for
for
services,
so
we
did
not
have
a
new
contract
that
extended
beyond
january,
that
is
now
in
place
and
we're
asking
for
approval
for
the
balance
of
the
fiscal
year
against
that
new
contract.
O
With
regard
to
the
parking
issue,
I
think
it's
imperative
that
you
understand
that
we've
had
a
massive
paradigm
shift.
We
don't
walk
meters
anymore
and
collect
cash.
Everything
is
done
electronic
and
just
in
the
last
three
years,
all
of
the
license
plates
have
been
added
to
a
database.
So
this
is
a
radical
shift
in
terms
of
how
we
record
it,
how
we
monitor
it
and
how
we
conduct
business.
So
the
the
question
on
on
return
on
investment
is
legitimate.
A
I
O
U
Good
morning,
I'm
mike
flanagan
public
utilities
assistant
director,
the
the
item
before
you
today
is
a
word
of
sole
source
contract
for
the
purchase
of
custom
pumps,
parts
maintenance,
repair
services.
The
pumps
are
used
to
replace
existing
equipment
in
kind
replacement
of
pumps
with
other
manufacturers.
Equipment
would
require
re-engineering
modification
of
this
existing
piping
system,
we're
recommending
award
to
barney's
pop
and
the
amount
of
150
000.
Q
I'm
sorry
I'm
still
struggling
here,
but
this
is
we're
bringing
this
forward
to
to
streamline
the
process
of
our
meetings
and
certainly
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
A
F
Sure
this
is
really
just
a
matter
of
administrative
efficiency.
More
than
anything
else
I
mean
what
mr
jennings
and
I
discussed
was
that
this
rule
will
create
a
specific
time,
space
or
time
slot.
For
mr
jennings,
to
have
the
opportunity
to
weigh
in
and
discuss
things
it's
not
always
clear
as
we
go
through
agenda
items
when
he
should
speak
or
when
he
shouldn't
speak,
and
so
this
just
creates
a
time
for
him
to
be
able
to
speak
and
to
be
able
to
call
on
anyone
he
likes
for
the
items.
F
So
it
should
just
keep
things
on
track
will
help
him,
I
think,
be
able
to
weigh
in
when
he
wants
to
weigh
in
and
designate
when
he
wants
to
designate.
That's
all.
A
L
L
Appoint
three
individuals
to
the
marine
advisory
board
to
fill
the
remainder
of
unexpired
terms
and
two
for
through
may
31st,
2023
and
one
through
july,
31st
2023,
council
members
hold
on
one
second.
L
L
G
I
I
L
Council
members
in
your
agenda
pack
missed
mr
neil
straillo
was
a
citizen
and
he
was
serving
his
second
complete
term.
So
her
council
rules
I
rather
felt
per
code.
New
appointment
is
needed,
so
you
have
applications
for
teresa
bozen
and
meg
taylor,
who
is
currently
serving
her
first
term
on
the
nuisance
abatement
board.
I
I
agree
they
both
seem
qualified
and
enthusiastic.
Miss
taylor
is
already
serving
on
a
board.
Miss
brown
boson
has
attended
a
number
of
these
art
advisory
board
meetings.
She's
spoken
she's,
an
artist
who
is
currently
working
in
our
library
system
during
coven
and
and
she's
proactive
and
really
wanting
to
get
in
engaged.
She
does
show
up
to
these
advisory
board
meetings
and
speaks
so
I
think
she'd
be
a
good
candidate.
L
Jordan
behar
also
had
resigned
and
or
rather
is
not
interested
in
reappointment,
and
he
just
wants
another.
Member
of
the
community
have
the
opportunity
to
serve
on
the
on
the
board
and
then
mr
bootsicus.
He
has
just
served
his
second
term,
so
per
code
he's
not
allowed
to
resubmit,
since
it's
a
quasi-judicial.
A
Okay,
I
just
soon
hold
off
on
this
one
until
thursday.
I
think
it's
gonna
be
a
longer
discussion.
I
don't
think
we're
gonna
get
consent
is
my
sneaking
suspicions
we'll
just
talk
about
that
further
on
thursday,
I.
A
I
Q
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone,
mayor
members
of
the
council
in
the
community.
F
Wanted
to
say:
welcome
back
to
sir
jennings,
it's
good
to
have
you
back.
I
Yeah
so
I
went
to
the
eab
meeting
last
week
and
it
was
a
great
meeting.
There
were
a
lot
of
topics
covered
and
one
of
the
things
was
our.
I
I
forget
her
title,
but
our
lead
architect,
design
and
project
manager
for
imagine,
clearwater
cat
took
us
up
onto
the
onto
the
rooftop
of
the
library
and
we
looked
down
at
imagine,
clearwater
and
and
the
construction
down
there.
One
of
the
questions
brought
up
by
one
of
our
eav
members,
mr
john
thomas,
was
a
concern
about
the
sea
grass
and
protection
of
the
seagrass
out
near
imagine,
clear
water.
I
If
boats
would
be
mooring
east
of
the
channel,
and
so
I
would
like
to
schedule
a
presentation
sometime
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
like
right
now,
but
a
presentation
from
an
expert
on
seagrass
and
the
protections
of
manatees
in
our
environment,
related
to
the
possibility
of
boats
anchoring
near
imagine,
clear
water
once
it's
completed
and
so
part
of
the
statement
is,
there
is
a
need
for
mooring
restrictions
to
protect
seagrass
beds,
north
of
the
marina
and
lie
northwest
of
the
existing
harbor
master.
Building.
I
The
primary
navigation
channel
is
located
about
400
feet
west
of
the
seawall.
It
is
anticipated
that
boaters
will
moor
in
the
area
east
of
the
channel
and
drop
anchor
to
enjoy
the
concerts
over
time.
Numerous
boaters
pulling
anchor
you
know,
will
inevitably
remove
seagrass.
So
I
think
you
know
a
presentation
from
someone
who
specializes
in
that
would
be
good.
I
serve
on
the
tampa
bay
estuary
program
board
and
perhaps
I
can
ask
if
they
can
recommend
an
expert
to
to.