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Comment
card
comment
cards
are
located
by
the
clerk
seated
to
the
right
of
the
Deus
when
called
to
speak,
you're
going
to
hand
your
card
to
the
clerk
I.
Ask
you
to
please
stand
for
the
invocation
to
be
given
by
Pastor
Bob
Brubaker
from
Christ
Community
Presbyterian
church
and
remain
standing
for
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
B
Oh
God,
our
Father
in
heaven.
We
thank
you
for
the
blessings
upon
Our.
Fair
city
is
a
beautiful
place
to
live,
and
you
have
blessed
us
richly
over
the
years
as
our
Council
meets
tonight.
They
need
your
grace
and
your
wisdom
and
pray
that
the
spirit
of
unity
would
Prevail
in
this
meeting.
In
all
things
Lord.
We
call
upon
you
because
we
need
your
help,
and
so
we
call
upon
you
in
Jesus
name,
amen,.
C
A
A
D
Okay,
so
for
those
watching
that
don't
know
annually,
as
you
know,
we
have
spring
training
in
Dunedin,
as
well
as
in
Clearwater
and
every
year,
just
for
fun.
We
have
our
marriage
Challenge
and
every
year
we
just
rotate
this
year.
It
was
in
at
the
Phillies
Stadium,
and
we
our
challenge,
is
when
the
Jays
and
the
Phillies
play
now
I
really
wish
it
would
have
been
at
the
end
of
the
month
when
we
really,
you
know,
kicked
the
snot
out
of
the
Phillies,
but
it
wasn't.
D
We
we
got
creamed
pretty
good
yeah,
so
part
of
that
challenge
is
we
have
a
rotating
cup
that
you
know
this,
the
winning
City
gets
to
hold
on
to
and
have
their
name
on
it,
and
then
the
losing
City
gets
to
where
the
winning
cities,
Jersey
beautiful
red,
good,
Friday
and
I
had
to
wear
this
here
last
year.
So
I
wanted
to
Jersey,
but
all
right.
D
It
up
I
do
want
to
just
introduce
my
colleagues
I,
have
a
commissioner
Ron
Rob
Walker
commissioner
Mo
franey,
our
city
manager,
Jennifer
Bramley,
and
our
Parks
and
Rec
director,
Vince,
Gizzy,
and-
and
they
were
all
there
to
witness,
but
more
importantly,
I
think.
The
reason
we
do
this
is
because
of
how
important
spring
training
is
to
the
economy
of
Clearwater,
Dunedin
and
Pinellas.
D
County,
most
people
don't
understand,
but
if
you
don't
have
a
certain
number
of
teams
in
your
region
to
play
spring
training
is
not
worthwhile
for
the
actual
baseball
team
and
so
we're
as
supportive
as
you
all
have
been
with
the
Jays,
and
we
went
through
our
negotiations
and
and
keeping
them
here
for
another
25
years.
We
are
equally
as
supportive
of
keeping
the
Phillies
here.
It
only
makes
our
spring
training
visitors
more
things
to
do
stronger
economy
and
keeps
the
system
working
well.
So
we
support
the
Phillies
greatly
and
wish
you
the
best
of
luck.
D
A
A
D
A
F
Good
evening
Council,
my
name
is
Joe
Farrell
with
the
Pinellas
realtor
organization.
First
off
I'm
joined
here
by
Jeffrey
Laura,
with
the
Pinellas
County
Office
on
human
rights.
Angela
Emerson
is
also
the
president
of
the
Tampa
Bay
Fair
Housing,
Consortium
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
recognizing
fair
housing
month.
F
And
you
know
we
live
in
a
variable
variable
Utopia
compared
to
what
people
have
gone
in
the
past,
but
there's
still
work
to
be
done
and
I
just
want
to
I'm
glad
that
we
could
do
this
and
also
another
department
here
at
the
city,
I'm
glad
to
work
with
the
city
of
Clearwater.
We
work
with
Pinellas
County
Hillsborough
County,
the
city
of
St,
Pete
City
of
Tampa
as
well,
and
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
this
Proclamation
and
hope
that
everyone
continues
to
keep
in
mind
that
everyone
deserves
access
to
housing.
Absolutely.
H
A
A
I
A
C
N
L
A
P
Q
Council
this
is
my
item.
You've
asked
me
unanimously
to
prepare
a
resolution.
I
have
looked
at
some
sample
resolutions
that
were
used
by
other
municipalities
across
the
country.
Some
of
the
language
is
a
little
bit
more
appropriate
for
our
local
environment,
but
I
have
created
what
I
think
is
an
appropriate
adaptation
of
that
language.
If
this
resolution
is
passed
by
Council,
we
can
incorporate
this
definition
into
training,
materials
and
other
internal
uses
as
well
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Q
Can
take
it,
we
can
take
it
in
either
order.
I
can
go
ahead
and
read
the
read
the
title.
I
think
we
should
absolutely
so
it's
a
resolution
of
the
city
of
Clearwater
Florida
approving
a
non-binding
definition
of
anti-semitism,
directing
City
staff
to
familiarize
themselves
with
this
definition
and
corresponding
reference
materials
incorporating
their
usage
where
appropriate
and
providing
an
effective
date.
T
Council
members
good
to
see
you
again
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
tonight.
My
name
is
Stuart
Berger
I've
been
a
resident
of
beautiful
Clearwater
for
34
years,
and
my
wife
and
I
raised
our
children.
Here
was
the
director
of
the
Jewish
community
relations
Council
of
the
Jewish
Federation
of
Florida's
Gulf
Coast
I'm,
the
director.
T
It
is
very
sad
and
troubling
to
me
that
in
2023
on
the
night
before
Passover
Begins,
the
Jewish
holiday,
that
celebrates
our
freedom
from
slavery
that
we
need
to
be
gathered
here
today
asking
you
to
pass
a
resolution
regarding
anti-Semitism
and
adopting
the
international
Holocaust
remembrance,
Alliance,
definitive
definition,
definition
of
anti-semitism.
Tonight
Clearwater
has
the
opportunity
to
join
23
other
Florida
municipalities
in
adopting
this
important
resolution,
and
we
and
will
be
the
first
in
Tampa
Bay.
To
do
so.
T
Anti-Semitism
has
often
been
described
as
the
most
ancient
and
enduring
of
hatreds
and
much
like
a
virus.
It
adapts
to
the
times
it
finds
itself
in
during
ancient
times,
Jewish
people
face
persecution
for
believing
in
just
one
God
and
not
assimilating,
into
the
Pagan
cultures
surrounding
them
in
Europe
during
Medieval
Times
Jewish
people.
As
a
whole
were
blamed
for
any
number
of
misfortunes
and
suffered
from
regular
massacres,
forced
conversions
and
expulsions
from
many
countries
and,
of
course,
in
the
20th
century
last
century
there
was
Adolf
Hitler.
T
T
Every
morning,
I
receive
a
text
from
the
secure
Community
Network.
Every
morning,
I
see
reports
like
these
swastikas
were
discovered
at
Clarkstown
South,
High
School
in
New
York,
three
teams,
vandalized
Town
property,
with
anti-semitic
graffiti
rise
in
anti-semitic
hate
crimes,
leads
to
more
protection
for
Jewish
communities
ahead
of
Passover
and
unfortunately,
just
this
past
weekend,
anti-semitic
Flyers
were
again
found
distributed
in
St.
Petersburg
should
not
be
like
this.
T
We
know
that
other
municipalities
have
found
that
adopting
this
working
definition
helps
City
officials,
including
police
officers
and
First
Responders,
understand
what
is
anti-Semitic
and
what
is
not.
We
also
know
that
passing
this
resolution
will
not
end
anti-Semitism,
but
that
it
is
an
important
step
to
combating
it.
I.
Thank
you
today
for
the
consideration
that
you've,
given
this
resolution,
I
urge
you
to
pass
it
and
again.
Thank
you
very
much.
U
City
council,
City
staff,
my
name
is
Samuel
hutkin
I
reside
at
755,
El
Dorado
I've
lived
here
for
almost
15
years
now,
I'm
the
president
of
Clearwater
Beach
Association,
and
also
on
the
board
of
directors
for
the
Jewish
Federation
of
Florida's,
Gulf
Coast
I'm,
here
to
say
first
off.
Thank
you
for
putting
this
resolution
on
the
agenda
for
discussion.
Anti-Semitism,
sadly,
as
we
have
noticed,
has
become
in
fashion
again.
U
Unfortunately,
stating
the
obvious
seems
to
be
something
we
have
to
do
lately
in
today's
society
as
representatives
of
our
community,
it
helps
to
serve
as
a
good
example
to
remind
our
citizens
that
violence,
hatred,
bigotry
will
not
be
tolerated,
for
those
that
have
may
need
an
actual
definition.
That's
what
this
resolution
provides.
It
is
our
job
not
just
as
Jews
but
as
Citizens
to
stand
together
in
solidarity.
U
The
Jewish
people
are
a
small
fraction
of
the
world's
population
just
over
two
percent,
yet
the
Jewish
people
are
on
the
receiving
end
of
over
55
percent
of
religious
hate
crimes
like
many
generations
before
me,
we
don't
ask
for
much.
All
we
ask
for
is
peace
acceptance
and
for
the
ignorance
of
hate
to
stop
wishful
thinking,
but
it
starts
with
education.
U
V
V
So
the
IRA
definition
is
not
a
new
definition.
It's
in
fact,
seven
years
old,
it's
not
a
radical
definition.
It's
been
adopted
by
39
countries
around
the
world,
including
the
United
States,
and
in
Florida
it,
as
you
heard,
there
are
23
23,
other
municipalities
who
have
adopted
it,
and
we
hope
that
you'll
be
24th.
V
V
There
were
269
269
instances
last
year
and
we
made
mention
of
the
fact
that
we
had
the
Flyers
being
handed
out.
The
organization
that
does
the
Flyers
has
relocated
their
headquarters
down
here.
V
W
Good
evening,
good
evening,
my
name
is
David
Sadowski.
For
the
past
34
years,
I've
been
a
resident
of
Clearwater,
worked
in
downtown
Clearwater
and
I've
been
a
member
of
congregation,
Beth
Shalom,
located
on
Belcher
Road
in
Clearwater.
My
wife
and
I
have
been
privileged
to
raise
our
two
sons
in
Clearwater,
but
I
am
here
to
address
what
the
resolution
before
you
to
adopt.
The
IRA
definition
of
anti-semitism
does
and
does
not
do.
W
W
W
A
recent
study
showed
that
half
of
adult
Americans
don't
know
what
anti-Semitism
is.
The
IR
definition
is
the
most
universally
accepted
definition
of
anti-semitism,
having
been
adopted
by
30
States
and
over
one
thousand
Global
entities.
As
of
January
of
2023.,
your
adoption
of
the
IRA
definition
will
act
as
a
guide
to
label
what
speech
is
considered
anti-semitic
speech.
In
other
words,
it
will
Aid
in
the
ability
to
see
and
understand
what
speech
is
anti-Semitic
and
this
Additionally.
The
courts
have
held
that.
W
Knowing
what
speech
is
considered
anti-semitic
under
the
under
an
adopted
definition
is
useful
in
analyzing
the
motive
and
intent
behind
illegal
discriminatory
conduct
and
addresses
whether
the
target
of
such
illegal
conduct
was
chosen
because
they
were
Jewish
in
some.
The
adoption
of
the
IR
definition
will
not
infringe
upon
one's
right
of
protected
speech,
but
will
assist
in
labeling.
W
What
speech
is
anti-Semitic,
so
in
closing
in
this
unique
year,
with
the
convergence
of
the
holidays
of
Passover,
Easter
and
Ramadan
in
the
first
part
of
April,
let
us
dedicate
ourselves
to
combat
the
forces
of
hatred,
bigotry
and
discrimination
that
attempt
to
divide
us.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
your
consideration
of
our
requests
to
adopt
this
resolution.
X
Good
evening,
council
members,
my
name
is
my
name-
is
Rudy
michaelek
I
live
at
855
Bayway
Boulevard
on
Clearwater
Beach,
while
I
am
not
Jewish
I
stand
with
my
brethren
Samuel
and
his
other
friends
who
are
here
this
evening
in
in
understanding
that
you
will
support
this
initiative,
which
I
think
is
very
appropriate
for
the
city
of
Clearwater.
X
I
would
also
add,
in
addition,
that
we
have
seen
throughout
the
nation,
mass
spectrums
of
hatred
and
ignorance
and
lies
being
purported
that
offend
and
attack
these
various
groups
that
we
have
within
us,
and
so
the
Jewish
group
is
not
the
only
one
that
has
been
at
the
attack
point
of
these
issues,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
as
a
Catholic
that
I
support
very
much
this
initiative
and
I'm
very
pleased
and
proud
that
you
will
all
take
this
and
handle
it.
Thank
you.
A
A
Y
Fdot
recently
completed
their
lane
or
purposing
report,
and
has
requested
letters
of
support
from
Ford
Pinellas,
the
city
of
Clearwater
and
Pinellas
County
to
date,
Ford
Pinellas
has
submitted
that
letter
this
evening.
We
do
have
F
dot,
Representatives,
Brian,
shawyer,
Kevin,
Lee
and
Jason
yam,
as
well
as
Whit
Blanton
from
forward
Pinellas.
Who
can
respond
to
any
questions,
but
first
Lauren
manske
will
come
up
and
give
a
quick
overview
of
planning
efforts
related
to
juice
Street
to
date.
E
Good
evening,
Lauren,
matske,
Planning
and
Development
so
as
Tara
said,
I
needed
to
be
quick.
So
briefly,
the
agenda
item
that
you
received
included
a
summary
sheet
of
the
different
planning
related
work
and
other
efforts.
The
planning
related
work
which
spanned,
2017
and
2018..
Since
that
goes
into
all
the
details.
It
also
covers
some
of
the
council
actions
which
included
authorization
to
apply
for
the
original
complete
streets,
Grant
from
Ford
Pinellas,
providing
Direction.
E
2018
I
think
it's
important
to
highlight
that
the
plan
started
as
most
plans
do
with
an
evaluation
of
the
existing
conditions,
including
look
at
looking
at
the
context
of
the
properties
surrounding
the
corridor
limitations
to
the
right-of-way
and,
of
course,
traffic.
Related
data
such
as
volume,
speed
and
safety.
E
This
was
a
neighborhood
driven
effort
from
the
beginning
and
the
city
and
consultant
team
worked
to
engage
and
listen
to
people
of
different
various
different
perspectives
that
included
the
neighborhoods
and
residents
Drew
Street
businesses,
other
Economic
Development
partners
and
Realtors
people
in
the
biking
Community,
as
well
as
public
institutions,
of
which
there
are
several
located
along
the
corridor
and
then
our
various
agency
partners.
The
concepts
that
city
council
had
approved
were
later
Advanced
into
the
next
phases
of
study
of
design
against
touched
on.
E
So
with
that
I'll
hand,
it
back
to
Tara
to
give
any
more
additional
information.
Y
Thank
you
again,
Tara
kivot
city
engineer.
So
following
this
planning
efforts,
just
recall
in
February
of
22
Council
passed
a
resolution
to
request
f-dot
to
improve
safety
on
that
Corridor
and,
ultimately,
to
lower
the
speeds
they
we
asked
from
Saturn
to
Myrtle.
They
did
lower
the
speed
from
corridor
from
Betty
Lane
to
Myrtle
and
then,
and
also
in
February
of
22
fdot,
completed
the
intersection,
control,
evaluation
or
ice
study
which
evaluated
intersections
and
the
need
for
signals,
and
the
study
does
recommend
new
signals
at
Hillcrest
and
North
Lake
Drive.
Y
So
those
are
actually
in
the
15
concept
plans.
Then
in
Fall
of
22
F
dot
procured
their
design
team,
Cardinal
now
stantec
to
move
forward
with
design
plans
and
then
in
late
February
fdot
requested
these
letters
of
support
in
late
March
City
staff
did
meet
with
fdot
to
review
these
15
concept
plans.
A
separate
meeting
was
held
where
the
county
also
reviewed
the
plans.
We
just
submitted
our
comments
today.
Y
I
have
not
seen
the
county
comments,
I,
don't
think
they've
been
submitted
yet
Blanton
also
participated
in
both
of
those
meetings
and
that
that
brings
us
to
today.
Here
we
are,
we
have
submitted
a
draft
letter
of
support
for
your
review
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
We
have
Representatives
here
to
answer
any
of
your
questions.
A
AA
I
AA
Name
is
Philip
orth
o-r-t-h,
that's
in
like
an
orthodox
I'm,
not
always
Orthodox,
but
anyway,
that's
my
name
so
I
know
about
Drew
Street
and
the
traffic
problems
there
and
the
speeding
and
how
it
Narrows
it's
very
unsafe.
AA
AB
Good
evening
Commissioners
and
counselor
I've
been
in
Clearwater
47
years.
I've
lived
on,
Jews
I've
lived
on
Orangewood
Avenue
for
47
of
those
years.
AB
AB
408
Orangewood
Avenue
and
I've
seen
Drew
streets
transition
from
a
very
passable
road
back
in
the
old
days
to
basically
a
nightmare
today,
and
it
really
kind
of
happened
when
they
did
the
renovations
on
Cleveland
Street,
because
so
many
people
used
to
use
Cleveland
as
a
way
to
get
downtown
and
when
they
took
that
away
by
traffic
calming
everybody
went
over
to
Drew
and
so
over
the
years,
especially
like
the
last
five
to
seven
years,
we've
seen
numerous
accidents
on
Drew
we've
seen
fatalities
as.
AB
It's
the
area
from
from
Saturn
all
the
way
down
to
Osceola
is
so
narrow
about
three
years
ago,
my
wife
and
I,
we
went
to
all
of
the
meetings
we
talked
to
the
Consultants
at
the
city
had
hired.
We,
we
thought
we
really
were
making
progress,
because
we
had
some
plans
that
really
looked
good
to
me.
AB
The
best
option
was
single
Lane
Drew
in
each
Direction,
with
a
center
turn
lane
and
the
reason
I
say
that
living
on
Orangewood
Avenue,
if
I
go
up
to
Drew,
to
make
a
left-hand
turn
to
to
go
east,
there's
a
distinct
problem
there.
In
the
last
meetings
we
had
years
ago,
I
talked
to
the
traffic
controller
directors
about
this.
The
lights
are
not
timed
correctly.
AB
So
what
happens?
The
people
of
Highland
going
east
they'll
come
and
about
the
time
that
they
finish
up.
The
people
from
Saturn
going
west
are
on
top
of
you
and
you
can
sit
there
for
four
or
five
of
those
Cycles
before
you
can
find
a
gap
to
pull
out
and
I
mean
that's
something
that
could
be
remedied
just
by
timing,
the
lights
a
little
bit
differently,
but
anyway
I.
AB
Don't
know
where
we
are
as
far
as
the
the
final
draft
that
everybody's
talking
about,
because
I've
been
out
of
the
loop
for
a
while,
but
just
as
a
note
about
two
weeks
ago,
I
was
coming
back
to
the
house
coming
from
19.
AB
going
down
Drew
going
west
and
there
was
a
city
of
Clearwater
truck
in
front
of
me
towing,
a
trailer
with
a
bobcat
on
it.
It's
no
problem
we're
both
in
the
left
lane
and
we
got
to
the
Narrows
there
at
Saturn
and
I
noticed
his
trailer
is
extending
about
12
inches
into
the
right
hand
lane,
and
he
was
doing
the
best
that
he
could
to
keep
the
trailer
on
the
left
side
even
right
on
the
line,
but
the
trailer
is
wide
enough
that
the
lane
could
not
accommodate
it.
C
K
Beth
Davis
I
live
in
1962,
Harding
Plaza,
and
it
would
be
remiss
if
I
weren't
here
to
talk
about
Drew
history
so
good
evening
to
you
Allen.
Thank
you
for
your
work,
I'm
saluting
you
and
your
support
for
the
safety
of
the
neighborhoods
in
downtown
and
if
you've
not
changed
your
minds.
We
are
here
to
remind
you
of
the
voices
of
seven
years
of
people
standing
here
and
asking
for
help
on
Drew
Street
for
almost
seven
years
the
citizens,
your
constituents
on
this
road
have
requested
this.
The
safety
alone
is
staggering.
K
K
Ing
happens,
we
know
there's
a
solid,
yellow
line
that
goes
forever
when
there
are
many
streets
and
driveways
that
deserve
the
chance
to
pull
in,
and
people
are
trapped
in
their
neighborhoods
by
speeding
cars.
You
represent
four
different
councils
over
eight
years
of
listening,
so
your
vote
tonight
represents
all
that.
Listening
and
I.
Ask
you
to
please
hear
our
plea.
Clearwater
asked
for
this
work,
study
and
design,
and
now,
in
the
11th
hour,
with
over
eight
million
dollars,
ready
to
be
invested
on
our
town,
we
need
to
vote.
K
Yes,
there's
no
room
for
any
more
study.
The
coveted
traffic
history
of
three
years
in
Cleveland
being
closed,
there's
no
comparison
that
reflects
the
dangerous
reality
of
traffic
today
on
Drew
Street.
This
is
no
time
for
you
to
doubt
the
experts
and
their
great
work.
Please
don't
repeat
the
many
councils
who
have
kicked
the
dangers
down
the
road.
Often
we
do
studies
in
Clearwater.
We
spend
money
and
we
can't
decide
this.
One
is
an
Easy
Choice
vote,
Yes
to
fdot
for
the
repurposing
of
Drew
Street
to
a
safe
Street.
K
People
can
enjoy
a
safe
downtown
economy
with
a
safe,
not
dangerous.
Drew
Street,
we
talk
about
controllables
in
business
and
we
control
this
one,
so
the
state
has
invested
years
of
work
and
money
on
this
project
at
our
request,
residents
continue
to
ask
for
this
correction
to
this
horrible
Street,
formal
councils.
K
Former
councils
have
voted
yes,
and
we
need
to
say
yes
now
we
ask
for
this
Improvement
and
if
we
back
out
now,
we
risk
our
negotiation
with
any
future
need
for
our
city
from
the
state
or
forward
Pinellas,
and
we
need
to
keep
our
relationships
open
and
fruitful.
This
is
old,
historic,
Clearwater
and
downtown
will
not
be
wonderful
without
a
safe
journey
street.
Thank
you.
AD
Good
evening
I'm
Dan
shovel
again,
this
is
a
tough
decision
for
a
lot
of
you
to
make
today,
there's
certainly
a
lot
of
people
from
the
neighborhoods
here
and
there,
and
they
actually
believe
that
this
will
bring
safer.
You
know
way
to
get
to
the
beach
and
and
to
through
downtown,
but
I
speak
for
quite
a
few
merchants,
and
our
issue
is:
we
have
thousands
of
people
work
downtown
in
on
the
beaches?
AD
It's
already
difficult
to
get
down
there
now
and
to
be
given
that,
with
the
narrowing
of
the
streets,
I've
read,
some
cases
will
take
an
extra
15
to
20
minutes
just
to
get
down
to
the
beach
recently
in
Cleveland
Street.
They
spent
not
recently
spent
some
time
ago.
They
they
wrote
the
exam
and
put
roundabouts
to
slow
people
down.
AD
If
I
were
here
from
Cleveland
Street
I'd
be
worried
with
this
narrowing
that
everybody
go
over
to
Cleveland
now,
so
you
know
what
will
happen?
Is
some
people
just
take
another
road
to
get?
You
know,
get
the
nether
Place
faster,
we're
having
a
tough
time
getting
people
to
work.
You
know
on
the
beach
and
everything
else
wartime.
One
of
the
biggest
complaints
we
have
from
our
staff
is
because
it's
not
worth
the
money
to
get
to
spend
all
the
time
it
takes
to
get
especially
this
time
of
year.
AD
It
takes
to
get
to
our
area.
I'd
like
to
you,
know,
check
these
traffic
patterns.
So
this
lady
brought
up
I'm
sure
they're,
you
know
versus
the
other
thing,
I
think
you're
gonna
have
just
as
much
trouble
trouble
on
Cleveland
Street
when,
when
all
this
is
said
and
done
and
again,
thousands
of
people
take
that
road
from
North
County
to
get
down
to
the
beach
in
here
complaints
all
the
time
just
not
for
stuff.
You
hear
from
people
all
the
time
we
don't
know
where
the
beach
anymore,
because
it
takes
too
long.
AD
I,
don't
think
this
is
going
to
help
but
I'd
like
to
have
you
long
and
hard
thought
about
what
you're
trying
to
do
here,
because
it's
going
to
actually
hurt
the
employment
issues
that
we
have
currently
on
the
beach
and
over
the
boat,
which
the
people
on
Cleveland
Street
I
think
they're
going
to
go
through
an
informal
health
because
I
know
that's
what
work
people
do
in
order
to
bypass
any
kind
of
you
know
slower
traffic
going
through
they're
going
to
head
to
Cleveland.
AD
AD
A
AE
AE
AE
AF
I've
been
a
resident
of
Clearwater
for
15
years
and
I
live
in
the
sky.
Crest
neighborhood
and
I
speak
as
a
resident
of
Clearwater
and
I
wanted
to
speak
about
my
concerns
as
a
resident
of
skycrest,
because
I
believe
this
will
increase
traffic
along
Cleveland
Street
and
in
the
sky
Crest
neighborhood
starting
this
summer.
Imagine
Clearwater
will
bring
thousands
of
visitors
to
downtown
Clearwater,
which
is
a
great
thing.
AF
I
think
imagine,
Clearwater
will
do
great
things
for
downtown,
but
it
will
bring
new
traffic
and
and
more
traffic,
whether
it's
Drew
Street
or
Cleveland,
Street
or
Gulf
to
Bay,
and
we
know
how
bad
it
is
going
down
Gulf
to
Bay
to
the
beach
and
the
sky.
Press
concerns
is
that
people
will
be
barreling
down,
Cleveland
Street,
as
was
mentioned
before,
which
is
a
residential
neighborhood
and
a
large
portion
along
Cleveland
streets.
AF
AG
AG
None
of
them
were
up
here,
crybaby
William
when
they
shut
down
two
lanes
and
then
shut
down
two
blocks
on
Cleveland
Street,
which
was
the
state
road
60..
Nobody
was
complaining,
I'm
hearing
the
word
about
skycrest
getting
more
cars
than
their
neighborhood
than
residential.
The
section
we're
doing
the
streetscape
is
residential
90
percent.
AG
This
hasn't
been
going
on
for
seven
years.
It's
been
going
on
seven
years
since
the
grant
I
complained
about
it
and
o4.
When
my
wife
was
rear-ended
with
my
kid
I
was
told
by
City
staff
and
some
politicians
that
used
to
set
up
here
there's
nothing.
We
can
do
about
it.
It's
a
state
road
and
the
state
won't
fix
it,
but
we
know
that's
BS.
AC
Good
evening
Madam
vice
mayor
Madam
city
manager,
City
Council,
Members,
I'm,
Bud,
Elias
I,
live
in
2760
seat,
Pine
Circle
in
Countryside,
I
drove
from
Countryside
this
evening,
down
Drew
Street,
packed
with
cars
and
I
think
about
why?
What
is
the
purpose
in
moving
it
from
two
lanes
to
from
four
lanes
to
two
lanes?
One
Way,
each
way
I
think
they
all
agree
like
all
of
Pinellas
County
Clearwater
is
experiencing
a
growing
traffic
congestion
problem,
so
it
was
a
basic
idea
to
accommodate
the
occasional
back
Rider
at
the
expense
of
significant
daily
vehicle
traffic.
AC
Drew
is
a
narrow
Street
to
begin
with,
and
to
narrow
it
down
to
one
line.
Each
way
with
bike
Lanes
on
both
sides
defies
common
practical
sense.
Can
you
imagine
the
line
of
traffic
in
the
morning
when
the
city
of
Clearwater
garbage
truck
is
on
Drew
Street?
Picking
up
garbage
the
line
of
traffic
would
be
miles
if
we
only
had
one
way,
two
lane
lines:
I
traveled
through
probably
three
to
four
times
a
week
and
I'm
always
impressed
with
the
volume
of
traffic.
Both
ways.
AC
AC
AI
Hello,
my
name
is
Tara
Hurley
I
live
on
Cleveland
Street
I
am
part
of
the
sky.
AI
Crest
community
and
I
am
sorry
what
happened
to
your
wife,
unfortunately,
I
moved
in
in
2013
I
was
not
part
of
the
vote
for
the
sky
Crest
community
I
was
unaware
of
this
project
actually
recently
until
I
attended
one
of
our
neighborhood
meetings
where
I
learned
about
it,
and
that
caused
me
to
do
research
in
that
I
decided
to
go
ahead
and
pull
my
neighbors
and
pull
the
business
Representatives
on
Drew
Street,
none
of
which
seem
to
have
any
idea
of
what
was
going
on
all
which
expressed
concern
about
it
being
dropped
down
to
two
lanes
so
I'm
here
tonight,
for
you
to
reconsider
and
to
say
that
we
do
understand
that
something
needs
to
be
done
on
Drew
Street.
AI
It
is
unsafe.
We
have
a
launch
date
for
Imagine
Clearwater
and
we're
urging
everybody
to
take
Drew
Street.
How
are
we
going
to
accommodate
that
many
people
on
the
lane,
if
there's
only
one
lane
to
that,
we
believe
it's
reasonable,
that
we
do
look
at
different
changes
and
options
instead
of
just
bringing
it
down
to
two
streets
or
two
lanes,
we
are
worried
that
it
will
go
into
Cleveland
Street,
as
we
did
the
traffic
traffic
calming.
AI
AI
We
need
more
information,
we
need
more
studies
done.
We
need
to
take
into
consideration
that
there
is
two
main
arteries
that
go
down
to
downtown
and
if
you
limit
one
of
them,
what
is
that
going
to
do?
If
we
have
a
hurricane
that
comes,
and
it
is
a
one-way?
How
are
we
expecting
everybody
to
evacuate?
AJ
My
name
is
Amy
Lewis
and
I'm,
a
resident
of
skycrest
and
I'm
against
it.
I
live
I've
lived
there.
My
entire
life
I've
lived
off,
Cleveland
I've
had
to
take
Drew
I've
had
to
deal
with
the
insanity.
That
is
true.
Something
does
need
to
be
done
about
Drew.
The
problem
is
say:
you
have
an
accident
on
one
lane,
a
Drew
and
they
divert
onto
Cleveland.
What
happens?
Is
these
people
who
are
used
to
being
able
to
go
faster,
lose
their
minds?
They
go
20
miles
over
an
hour.
AJ
You
know
an
hour
over
the
speed
limit
down
their
road
because
they're
inconvenienced
and
then
they
hit
a
traffic
calming
and
they
have
to
slow
down,
and
then
they
speed
back
up
sometimes
50
miles
an
hour
where
it's
30.,
it's
terrifying,
because
they
don't
care.
I
live
on
skycrest,
which
used
to
be
first.
AJ
It
was
not
through
to
Gulf
to
Bay,
then
it
was
and
then
they
took
it
away,
and
so,
when
people
try
to
go
through
they'll
get
really
mad
when
they
have
to
turn
around
and
come
back
and
again
they're
speeding
and
they
don't
care
also
with
the
bike
Lanes.
It's
the
same
thing
if
they
think
there's
no
bicyclist
in
a
lane,
and
they
feel
that
it's
going
too
slow
they're
going
to
use
those
bike
Lanes
as
passing
Lanes,
anyways
and
If
a
bicyclist
pulls
into
that
lane.
AJ
Knowing
it's
a
bike
lane,
it's
going
to
become
a
safety
hazard
for
the
bicyclist.
Speaking
of
somebody,
who's
been
hit
twice
on
a
bike
when
obeying
all
of
the
traffic
laws
so
cars
when
they
don't
care,
they
don't
care
and
it
doesn't
matter
what
you
do
about
it.
But
this
is
very
unsafe.
It's
just
there.
It
needs
to
have
something
done.
N
Hi,
my
name
is
Barb
Fisher
and
I
live
on
Hillcrest
on
the
corner
of
Drew
and
Hillcrest
I've
lived
there
since
19.
Excuse
me
2001.,
so
I've
been
there
quite
a
number
of
years,
I
think
there's
some
confusion.
People
are
talking
about
taking
Drew
down
to
one
way.
Each
way
you've
got
a
center
lane
for
turning
right
now.
You've
got
two
lanes
each
way,
but
the
left
lane,
which
is
the
fast
lane,
is
the
lane
people
have
to
turn
in.
N
So
traffic
is
going
down
the
street
somebody
has
to
make
a
left-hand
turn
in
the
left-hand
Lane
and
all
of
a
sudden,
all
the
traffic
backs
up.
These
are
the
people
that
are
in
what
they
think
is
the
fast
lane
until
the
person
can
make
a
left-hand
turn.
So
you
really
don't
have
two
lanes
of
traffic
just
flowing.
You
have
one
lane
of
traffic
just
flowing
on
each
side
and
you've
got
these
people
making
left-hand
turns
which
they
have
to
do,
because
it's
a
neighborhood.
N
So
if
you
had
a
middle
Lane
where
those
cars
could
pull
into
to
make
their
left
hand
turn
when
the
traffic
clears
all
these
other
cars
could
just
keep
on
going
like
they're,
going
so
to
say,
you're
taking
the
street
and
you're
reducing
it
to
one
lane.
Each
way
is
a
misinterpretation
of
really.
What
is
going
on
the
additional
thing
is,
it
will
allow
the
lanes
to
be
a
little
wider
and
we
understand
what
the
problem
is
with
that.
N
AK
Good
evening
my
name
is
Margaret
Page,
but
really
only
the
nuns
called
me
Margaret,
so
I
go
by
Peggy,
page
and
I
live
on
the
corner
of
Orangewood
and
Drew
and
I'm
right
by
the
speed.
The
digital
sign
and
I
have
to
tell
you
dangerous,
doesn't
really
describe
Drew
Street
I've
been
a
resident
for
50
years
down
here,
and
it
is
more
congested
than
I
ever
thought.
AK
It
could
be
I
hate
to
turn
left
and
my
friends
and
relatives
I'm
outside
waiting
for
them
and
they
come
from
the
other
side
because
they
don't
want
to
turn
off
Drew.
They
come
from
Highland
and
they
snag
through
the
subdivision,
because
they're
so
worried
about
Drew.
Since
I've
lived
there,
I
I've
lived
there
just
the
last
10
years.
AK
I
have
I
can
walk
to
two
yard
memorials
for
fatalities,
I
have
helped
kids
get
out
of
a
car
from
a
car
accident.
A
car
went
into
75
feet
into
my
yard.
It's
dangerous
and
it's
scary
in
the
sidewalks.
My
sidewalk
Edge
is
seven
feet
right
into
the
drew
street.
Now
I
can't
imagine
a
mother
going
in
a
stroller
with
a
child,
and
a
bus
goes
by
a
boat
trailer
and
that
would
be
scary
and
oftentimes.
The
business
is
under
the
street.
I
don't
want
to
go
down
and
maybe
give
a
small
business
pick.
AK
Do
a
carryout,
odor
I!
Don't
want
your
left.
So
it's
time
that
we
do
something
about
Drew
so
that
we
don't
have
any
more
lives,
lost
and
I.
Do
wonder
why
isn't
there
a
police
presence
along
Drew,
I'm
up
and
down
Drew
Street,
all
the
time,
I
never
see
a
police
car
where
these
Speeders
are
just
it's
an
expressway
out
there.
So
I
appreciate
you
listening
and
I
hope
we
take
action
this
time.
AL
It's
great
to
see
so
many
folks
again
tonight,
speaking
with
regards
to
Drew
Street,
and
it's
actually
great
to
hear
both
perspectives.
This
time,
I
do
think
that
the
neighbors
should
have
spoken
in.
Opposition
of
this
project
makes
very
valid
points.
Traffic
congestion
is
certainly
a
concern,
but
I
urge
everyone
to
hear
the
rest
of
the
folks
that
have
spoken
in
support
of
this
project,
whereby
their
main
reason
is
safety
and
protecting
lives.
AL
AL
Someone
also
expressed
concern
that
the
traffic
congestion
might
deter
visitors
from
coming.
I
think
that
an
unsafe
road
is
a
bigger
deterrent
for
visitors.
I
think
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
roads
are
safer
so
that
they
feel
safe
and
comfortable
traversing
Drew
Street.
AL
One
other
thing
to
consider
is
Jew
street
is
always
going
to
be
a
major
thoroughfare
or
a
main
road
for
people
to
take
from
Tampa.
From
that
side
of
Clearwater,
taking
them
to
downtown
Clearwater
and
the
beach,
the
designs
that
I've
seen
are
beautiful
and
it
really
does,
you
know,
stay
true
to
that
bright
and
Beautiful
from
Bay
to
Beach
Meadow
right
underneath
our
logo.
AL
AL
AL
AM
My
name
is
Lisa
bills:
I
live
at
222,
Orangewood,
Avenue
I've
been
there
three
years,
I'm
a
homeschool,
mom
I
run
a
local
homeschool
activity
group.
My
family
and
I
are
regularly
walking
around
the
neighborhood,
and
we've
witnessed
many
different
incidents
that
cause
us
great
fear.
The
last
time
I
was
here.
AM
I
spoke
about
an
incident
where
a
speeding
vehicle
came
westbound
on
Drew
Street
and
made
a
sharp
turn
onto
Hobart
and
flipped
over
after
swerving
hit
a
electric
pole,
snapped
the
pole
in
a
Transformer
blue
and
that's
an
area
where
I
regularly
had
been
walking.
I
no
longer
walk
on
that
area
of
homework
and
Drew
I
also
take
careful,
be
I'm,
very
careful
when
I
am
near
Drew
on
any
of
the
streets.
AM
So
I've
heard
the
idea
that
maybe
we
need
some
more
studies,
but
I
think
we
can
all
understand
that
we
go
from
a
commercial
Zone
into
a
residential
Zone
and
the
people
who
are
coming
through
into
the
residential
Zone
do
not
have
an
understanding.
Do
not
have
a
care,
and
sometimes
maybe
it's
not
their
fault.
They
don't
realize
where
they
are.
They
may
be
from
out
of
town
tourists,
but
we
see
the
buses
taking
up
more
than
one
lane.
AM
We
see
the
charter
buses,
we
see
the
boats,
we
see
trailers
and
it's
like
somebody
else
described.
You
can
hardly
stay.
Those
Vehicles
can
hardly
stay
in
one
lane,
so
there
is
the
development
of
Imagine,
clear
water,
but
those
events
would
probably
be
at
night
or
on
the
weekends
and
we
are
having
a
daily
problem.
This
is
happening
during
the
weekdays
so
again,
I'd
like
to
voice
my
support
for
the
redesign
and
Redevelopment
of
Drew,
Street
and
I
hope
you
all
are
in
support
of
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
AM
AN
Flaherty
I
wasn't
going
to
speak
about
this,
but
I
feel
like
I
should
because
I'm
very
supportive
of
this
project,
I
walk
to
Crest
Lake
Park
every
morning
and
every
morning
or
not
every
morning,
but
so
many
mornings.
You
see
the
lights
in
the
distance
down
at
Drew,
where
someone's
gotten
killed.
There
was
a
car
that
went
into
someone's
house
down
there.
You've
got
if
you
have
a
bike
lane,
a
lot
of
people
are
getting
electric
bikes
now
and
going
to
the
beach
I
mean
I've.
AN
We
fix
about
10
Tires
a
day
in
my
bike
shop
with
electric
bikes,
I
mean
people
are
getting
to
work.
That
way.
I
think
that's
a
better
way
to
get
to
the
beach.
You
don't
have
to
pay
for
parking.
You
can
come
back
the
better
week.
The
more
safety
way
we
can
get
down
to
the
beach
I.
Think
better
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
I,
don't
think
you're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
traffic
a
lot
of
times
and
when
you
have
rush
hour,
but
it'll
work
out
so
I'm
supportive.
So
thank
you.
AN
AO
AO
I
urge
you
please
go
forward.
I
understand,
I,
have
many
many
friends,
business
owners
in
downtown
and
I
sympathize
with
them.
I
think
a
great
solution
is
to
maybe
remove
some
of
those
roundabouts
on
Cleveland
Street.
They
slow
up
traffic,
so
much
I
remember
when
they
were
not.
There
I've
moved
to
Clearwater
in
1985.
AO
when
they
were
not
there.
Traffic
just
went
so
smoothly.
Cleveland
Street
was
a
great
alternative
and
that
would
speed
up
traffic
so
much,
but
Drew
Street
really
really
scares
me
when
I
see
bicyclists
on
the
side.
AO
AO
You
know
why?
Why
ride
on
the
road
and
and
take
your
life
in
the
hands?
It's
just
juice
juice.
Street
to
this
day
scares
me
I
would
never
ride
a
bicycle
bike
on
the
on
that
road
and,
like
I,
said
that
one
particular
intersection,
even
though
they
fixed
it
with
a
light.
AO
G
G
L
G
Is
this
has
not
been
communicated
to
all
of
us
that
way?
Okay,
so
I
think
that's
the
important
thing
for
us
and
our
concern
is
the
biplane
being
put
over
on
Drew
and
especially
because
of
all
the
additional
traffic
that
we're
anticipating
with
the
opening
of
the
park
and
all
those
events
there
and
right
now
we
do
have
a
bike
lane
that
comes
down
Cleveland
and
that
bike
lane
is
used.
Often
if
you're
there
on
a
Saturday
or
Sunday
you'll,
see
many
bikes
coming
down
that
lane.
G
It
goes
right
now,
I
believe
up
to
Missouri
and
I
was
told
that
it's
supposed
to
go
all
the
way
to
the
Gateway
once
they
get
done
with
that
construction.
So
there
is
a
way
for
bikers
to
also
be
able
to
come
downtown
in
a
safe,
Manner
and
I.
Think
it's
just
a
matter
of
if
we
are
going
to
go
forward
with
this,
making
sure
that
all
of
the
safety
features
and
all
of
the
existing
things
that
are
already
in
place
are
taken.
G
You
know
a
good
look
at
and
that
we
are
all
included
in
that
process
so
that
we
have
the
least
business
disruption
ever
I
mean
we
talk
about
maybe
taking
Cleveland
Street
and
putting
it
back
the
way
it
was
that
street
was
closed
for
a
very
long
time,
and
many
of
the
businesses
that
were
downtown
are
no
longer
there,
because
of
that
we've
been
through
covet
we're
still
recovering.
We
have
a
severe
situation
with
the
economy
right
now
now
and
the
merchants
that
are
still
downtown
hanging
on
business
disruption.
G
You
know
means
a
lot
to
us,
so
I'm,
just
conveying
these
concerns
from
all
of
our
Merchants
downtown
and
let
you
know
that
we
are
supportive
of
a
safe
environment.
We
do
not
like
accidents
and
I
do
understand
everyone
living
down
that
Corridor
in
the
presidential
it
is
about.
It
is
a
nightmare
I've,
driven
that
same
route,
I
cater
for
the
Phillies
and
I
have
to
drive
that
road,
and
sometimes
it
is
true.
G
You
cannot
you've
got
other
cars
that
are
white
and
are
taking
up
the
the
area
so
I
do
understand,
but
those
are
just
the
points
that
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
knew
and
that
we
are
supportive
of
anything
that
creates
a
safe
environment
and
that
can
also
continue
to
bring
people
to
downtown.
Thank.
AP
Good
eating
good
evening,
members
of
council
I'm,
Sheila,
nisler
and
I
own
Catalyst,
Tampa,
Bay
and
I
have
an
office
at
600,
Cleveland,
Street,
councilman
Beckman,
and
to
share
I
want
to.
Thank
you
so
much
for
noting
my
mother's
passing
last
week,
she's
what
brought
me
back
to
Tampa
Bay
and
ironically,
it's.
Why
she's
here
why
I'm
here
tonight
she
passed
due
to
Peripheral
arterial
disease,
basically
clogging
of
the
arteries
in
her
legs.
AP
AP
X
First
of
all,
with
regards
to
the
number
of
routes
in
and
out
of
Clearwater
and
specifically
down
to
Clearwater
Beach,
once
you
hit
the
bridge
you're
going
to
the
beach
there's
only
two
lanes,
it
makes
no
difference
how
many
Avenues
bring
you
to
that
point.
You
only
have
two
lanes
to
get
down
and
two
lanes
to
get
back.
X
Secondly,
with
regards
to
the
downtown
area,
I
have
found
this
neat
little
app
that
I
have
on
my
phone.
That
says,
if
I
want
to
go
from
point
A
to
point
B,
here's
one,
two,
three,
sometimes
even
four
different
alternative
routes
of
how
to
get
there
and
all
with
time
associated
in
order
to
get
there.
X
X
So
we've
dealt
with
employment
down
on
the
on
the
beach
because
you
only
got
two
lanes
to
get
you
there
and
I
guess.
The
other
thing
I
would
say
is,
is
and
in
fact
Mr
Aubuchon
made
this
statement.
X
I
think
when
he
was
running
for
reelection
I'm
running
for
re-election
to
get
things
done,
I
think
that
those
were
your
words
that
you
had
things
unless
from
the
previous
passage,
and
you
wanted
to
see
that
they
got
done
well
we're
at
that
point
of
just
making
a
decision
either
you're
going
to
do
it
or
you're
not
going
to
do
it
end
the
story
as
they
say
when
you
ask
for
another
study
to
be
done.
That's
just
another
excuse
for
finding
a
way
to
kill
the
project.
X
So,
if
you're
going
to
kill
the
project,
kill
the
project,
if
you're
going
to
vote
for
it
vote
for
it,
but
my
God,
how
many
studies
did
we
go
through
just
for
Imagine,
clear
water,
I?
Think
I
heard
reference
to
that
too
during
one
of
the
council
meetings
so
from
my
standpoint
as
an
individual
I
suggest
that
you
move
forward
with
this
package.
Thank
you,
foreign.
AQ
My
name
is
Kevin
Archie
Lachlan
I
live
1237,
Rose
Road,
where
many
people
in
Clearwater
doesn't
even
know
where
it
is.
If
you
take
Drew
Street
from
here
all
the
way
to
Bayshore
and
turn
left
one
mile
and
it
says,
welcome
to
Safety
Harbor,
hang
a
quick
left
I'm
as
close
to
it
as
you
can
and
still
be
in
Clearwater
I
had
a
car
broken
into
and
the
police
came
to
take
a
look
at
it
nine
years
ago
and
the
sergeant
the
a
nice
female
officer
didn't
know.
AQ
My
neighborhood
was
even
there
19
years
on
the
force,
I
just
put
my
home
into
waves,
it's
seven
and
a
half
7.2
miles.
It
is
19.
Minutes
from
here
it
suggested
route
was
Drew
Street
I've,
taken
Drew
Street
down
here
all
the
time
I'm
on
the
Clearwater,
Marine
Advisory,
Board
and
I
come
down
to
downtown
Clearwater.
Often
it's
a
common
Road.
For
me,
it
is
a
hazard
just
like
we
saw
in
St
Petersburg,
with
the
pier
and
with
their
police.
Excuse
me
with
their
Police.
AQ
Headquarters
people
drag
their
feet
and
say
we
can't
do
anything,
because
we
can't
find
a
perfect
solution.
Maybe
there
isn't
a
perfect
solution
but
saying
I
live
up
next
street
over
and
people
might
take
my
street
because
they
don't
want
to
take
Drew
any
longer
if
they
took
it
down
to
one
lane.
I
bet
you
if
I
put
it
in
it
might
say
22
minutes
for
me
to
get
home.
AQ
AQ
You
could
say:
oh
there's
a
lot
of
accidents,
but
if
you
take
the
serious
accidents,
the
death,
the
red
light,
camera
belchering
Gulf
to
Bay,
because
a
crossing
guard
was
pinned
against
a
pole
by
somebody
running
a
red
light
there
Clearwater
has
problems
and
whining
about
it
and
saying
don't
bring
this
to
my
neighborhood
is
not
going
to
solve
it.
Clearwater
is
progressing
we're
about
to
open
a
brand
new
park
here.
AQ
In
my
remarks
about
the
mayor,
I
actually
said
we're
going
to
have
a
safe,
Drew
Street
in
the
future,
we're
still
soon
through
the
Marine
Advisory
board,
we're
going
to
have
a
brand
new
Clearwater
Beach
Marina,
because
Clearwater
keeps
moving
ahead.
People
that
scream
about
the
dollars,
don't
look
and
say
this
is
a
city
with
a
five
fun:
correct,
500
million
dollar
budget.
Roughly,
where
are
we
going
to
get
the
money?
Well,
some
of
these
things
are
financed.
Some
of
the
money
is
there.
This
needs
to
move
forward.
AQ
AR
A
Z
This
plan
for
Drew
Street
goes
back.
As
many
of
you
have
said.
Z
A
long
time
seems
like
everything
we
talk
about
in
Clearwater
goes
back
a
long
time,
I
remember
being
there
when
we
were
doing
the
charrettes
in
the
very
beginning
and
they
were
showing
the
plans
of
where
the
the
two
lanes
and
the
middle
turn
lane
would
would
go
and
then
were
the
two
when
the
four
lanes
would
start
because
three
different
municipality
owned,
Drew
Street,
you
got
the
city,
you
got
the
county
and
you
got
the
state,
it's
a
very
complicated
Road
and
some
things
like
this
take
a
long
time
because
it's
hard
to
get
everybody
together
on
one
page
now,
we've
been
talking
about
this
so
long,
we've
actually
got
the
funding
to
do
this
project
now
and
what
I
want
to
know.
Z
My
question
is:
if
somebody
can
answer
it,
I
think
the
biggest
problem
with
Drew
Street
is
the
residential
area
and
it
seems
to
be
at
South
Duncan,
where
South
Duncan
meets
Drew
Street
the
there's
not
enough
Lane
width
they're
less
than
what
the
do
DT
fdot
recommends,
and
at
that
point
that's
where
you
have
a
lot
of
accidents,
because
people
are
driving
down
what
they
think
is
in
the
middle
of
the
lane
and
they're
open
their
wheels,
especially
with
trailers,
are
over
on
the
other
lane.
Z
My
question
is
this:
are
we
stopping
the
one
lane
in
each
Direction
with
the
center
turn
lane?
Does
that
go
from
Osceola
to
Duncan
I've
heard
it
goes
to
Saturn
and
I've
heard
it
goes
to
Keane,
which
is
it.
Y
Z
Segment
two
Duncan
is
actually
that's
the
change
point
from
commercial
to
residential,
because
if
you
go
east
on
Duncan
well,
if
you
go
east
on
Duncan
all
of
a
sudden,
you
have
a
florist
on
the
corner.
You
got
gas
stations,
you've
got
markets,
and
in
that
short
area
too
Keen
you
have
you've
got
businesses
there
after
Keen,
it's
going
to
go
back
to
four
lanes.
Is
that
correct?
Z
Z
Because
I
want
to
read
what
they
have
put
down
for
their
Road
systems
up
there
when
they
consider
changing
it
from
four
lanes
to
two
lanes
with
a
center
turn
lane,
so
myth
number
one
drivers
will
be
diverted
from
the
area.
That's
false.
For
the
majority
of
four
to
three
lane.
Conversions
traffic
volumes
remain
about
the
same
through
the
corridor.
In
addition,
three
lane
roads
are
generally
more
efficient
than
four-lane
roads,
because
Vehicles
no
longer
need
to
stop
in
the
through
Lanes
to
make
left
turns,
and
that
was
brought
up
here
tonight.
Z
Myth
number
two
economic
Economic
Development
will
be
stifled.
False
converting
to
a
three-lane
road
can
positively
impact
property
values
and
businesses
when
converting
it
to
a
four-lane,
converting
a
four-lane
road
to
a
three-lane
road.
Additional
features
can
be
added
in
the
unused
space,
such
as
parking
bicycle
Lanes.
These
features
can
improve
livability
and
transform
the
quarter
into
one
peop
when
people
want
to
drive
on
versus
drive
through
and
if
myth
number
three
traffic
will
back
up.
False
Studies
have
consistently
shown
that
for
roads
with
less
than
20
000
vehicles
per
day,
four
to
three
lane.
Z
Conversions
will
not
worsen
congestion.
In
fact,
operations
and
safety
improved
on
a
three-lane
road
because
left
turns
are
shifted
into
the
center
lane,
allowing
traffic
to
flow
more
freely
in
the
through
Lanes
and
then
the
last
one
is
myth
number
four
I
guess
response
times
will
increase
and
it
says
they
don't
four
to
four
to
three
lane:
conversions
deny
increase
emergency
response
time,
usually
improved
because
merged
Vehicles
can
utilize
the
center
lane,
where
there
are
bottlenecks
where
they
occur
on
the
four-lane
roads.
Z
So
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
people
are
saying
that
really
aren't
going
to
be
true
and
and
to
me
just
my
opinion
and
I
used
to
live
on
Drew
Street
I've
been
here
all
my
life
and
I
I've
seen
the
traffic
pickup
considerably
over
the
last
20
years.
Z
It
you
know
what
to
to
make
five
minutes
more
for
your
travel
down.
Drew
Street
make
it
a
safer
thing.
I
think
safety,
trumps
speed
every
time,
and
so
that's
that's.
Where
I'm
coming
from
and
I'd
like
to
discuss.
A
This
more
after
we
get
discussion
from
every
person
up
here.
Thank
you.
I
have
some
questions.
Council,
member.
M
So
I
have
I've
had
some
citizens
call
me
the
whole
week
and
with
a
lot
of
conflicting
information
and
misconception.
So
I
want
to
go
on
record
asking
the
following
questions:
study
the
traffic
study.
When
was
it
done
for
how
long
over
what
period?
That's
where
a
lot
of
confusion
occurred?
So
I
want
that
on
record,
so
everybody
gets
the
same
information
at
the
same
time.
AS
My
name's
Brian
sure
I'm,
with
the
Florida
Department
of
Transportation
and
the
planning
office
I,
had
done
the
study
for
Drew
Street
out
there,
so
the
traffic
counts
that
we
took,
who
are
at
different
times.
We
took
some
well.
The
whole
study
was
during
the
covert
time.
We
happened
to
start
it
just
as
everything
was
ramping
up
for
that
and
sort
of
got
shut
down.
AS
There
are
questions
on
the
accounts
that
we
took
during
that
time
being
affected
by
people
staying
home
or
not
traveling
as
much,
but
that
was
something
the
department
had
worked
out
because
it
isn't
just
drew
we're
looking
at
we're
looking
at
the
whole
state,
so
we
can
use
past
models
and
historical
information
and
that's
how
we
sort
of
used
back
to
forecast
what
was
happening
in
the
future
and
account
for
the
differences
in
traffic
due
to
covet
is
what
we
were
looking
at
it,
so
it
fit
within
the
models
and
everything
that
we
used
it.
AS
It
was
used
under
the
roadways.
There's
no
issues
in
anything
that
we've
done
out
there
so
far.
AS
M
AS
Of
the
modeling
system,
whatever
we
have
so
that
data
is
loaded,
we
have
another
office
that
works
with
the
counties
and
everybody
on
there.
Land
use
changes
that
are
expected
to
happen.
We
can
put
that
in
the
modeling
account
for
employment.
You
know
residential
and
everything
else
that
we
have
data
on
run,
that
through
the
model
and
that
was
used,
so
it
accounted
for
the
information
we
had
at
the
time
during
those
years.
So.
M
And
you,
the
traffic
times
were
between
what
hours
and
what
hours
out.
So
the
other
confused
confusion
that
I
received
I.
AS
Don't
have
the
exact
hours,
but
what
we
do
is
get
traffic
traffic
counts
at
different
times
through
the
day,
so
we'll
have
72
hour
counts.
We
do
tournament
counts
and
look
at
different
like
mornings
hours
when
it's
the
highest
amount
of
traffic
in
midday
and
then
evening
use
all
that
information.
M
So
in
that
traffic
County
did
not
include
a
spring
break
as
a
as
a
normal
yearly
occurrence.
AS
C
I'm,
sorry,
it's
taken
seven
years
to
get
to
this
point.
That's
insane!
We
we've
got
to
move
faster
than
this
on
on
everything
when
I
weigh
a
devastating
head-on
collision
against,
maybe
being
15
minutes
late
to
work,
your
safety
wins
I,
don't
see
how
you
can
look
at
it
in
any
other
way,
honestly,
how
for
merchants
how
many
lives
can
be
lost?
C
How
many
injuries
are
allowed
to
happen?
So
you
can
make
a
a
few
extra
bucks
I
understand
the
problems
with
with
getting
business.
Downtown
traffic
is
not
the
main
problem
downtown
and
everyone
knows
it.
C
We
are
going
to
have
the
ability
to
have
people
living
downtown,
working,
downtown,
we're
going
to
create
a
whole
different,
Atmosphere
downtown
we
are,
and
if
it's,
if
Drew
Street,
is
a
little
bit
calmer
a
little
bit
slower,
that's
a
good
thing
for
those
neighbors
who
are
saying
well,
I,
don't
want
people
coming
onto
my
street
because
it's
going
to
be
dangerous.
Well,
you
know
how
people
feel
untrue.
C
A
Thank
you
so
I
have
a
short
statement
that
I
have
some
questions
to
follow
up
with
the
expert,
so
it
has
been
a
very
long
road
for
the
city
and
neighborhoods
to
get
to
this
point
over
seven
years
after
many
approvals
to
move
forward
by
the
city,
the
county
and
Ford
Pinellas.
We
are
now
at
this
point.
This
started
well
before
I
was
elected.
A
I,
know,
council,
member
Albritton
has
been
a
very
integral
part
of
the
forward
Pinellas
board
and
an
important
voice
for
Clearwater
during
this
process
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
involvement
with
that.
I'm
excited
to
be
part
of
this
project.
Moving
forward.
I
know
that
during
this
very
long
process
there
have
been
opportunities
for
City
staff,
for
the
council
residents
and
businesses
to
comment
and
make
suggestions.
The
late
2021
review
is
a
great
example
of
a
recent
review
of
The
Proposal
Incorporated
in
updated
traffic
studies.
A
It
was
also
beneficial
for
me
yesterday,
as
I
knocked
on
doors
in
neighborhoods
near
Drew
Street
to
get
people's
feedback
it
reinforced
The
Narrative
previously
received
safety
is
a
huge
issue.
People
want
the
ability
to
travel
safely,
to
work,
to
parks
and
to
businesses
along
the
corridor
and
including
downtown
so
I
do
look
forward
to
our
discussion
here
and
any
additional
feedback
we
get
from
our
experts,
but
also
know
that
there
will
be
opportunities
going
forward
for
further
comments
and
shaping
this
isn't
a
one
and
done
discussion.
A
We
have
between
I
think
a
minimum
of
8
million
to
10
million
dollars
allocated
that
we
asked
for
a
number
of
years
ago
to
be
put
on
this
project
list
were
put
on
the
project
list.
We
have
money-
that's
not
out
of
the
city
coffers
to
improve
the
safety
on
these
corridors
on
Drew,
Street
and
I.
Don't
want
to
leave
eight
to
ten
million
dollars
on
the
table,
let
alone
the
city's
reputation
of
applying
for
this
money.
A
Talking
about
the
problem
asking
for
safety
improvements
and
then
saying
at
the
11th
hour,
maybe
not
I,
don't
want
your
10
million
dollars,
we're
just
going
to
kind
of
think
about
it.
A
little
longer
and
I
I
think
that's
harmful
for
our
reputation.
I
do
understand
some
of
the
concerns
and
I
have
some
follow-up
questions
for
either
Mr
Shroyer,
Mr
Blanton,
so
fdot
performed
analysis
and
projections
through
2045.
Certainly
they
know
that
we
have
spring
break
here
in
Clearwater,
and
certainly
the
2021
study
knew
that
we
had.
A
You
know
a
4
000
covered
up
to
nine
thousand
seat
Amphitheater
coming
in
down
at
the
waterfront.
So
if
fdot
did
that
analysis
and
it
showed
Gulf
to
Bay
could
handle
the
traffic
can
either
lit
or
Mr
schroyer
speak
to
this.
Please.
AS
Great,
so
the
question
of
had
come
up
before
of
making
these
changes
to
True
Street
what
happens
at
traffic,
and
that
was
part
of
the
modeling
that
we
put
out
there
and
ran
through
different
scenarios
of
leaving
it,
as
is
like
a
no-built
scenario.
The
scenario
when
we
do
the
lane
conversions
to
three
lanes
and
we
went
through
some
other
things
that
just
didn't
work,
so
they
didn't
get
further
analysis,
but
we
looked
at
that
where
the
traffic
would
go.
AS
You
looked
at
going
to
Gulf
to
Bay
I
had
pre
at
previous
years,
like
2017
or
so
done
a
study
on
golf
today
from
Fort
Harrison
out
to
McMillan
Booth.
So
we
had
a
lot
of
data
there.
Already
from
that
study,
the
traffic
will
spread
out
from
Drew
they
would
go.
We
looked
at
the
state
road
to
go
to
Gulf
to
Bay
go
to
other
roads.
It
does
not
impact
Gulf
debate,
specifically
in
any
major
way.
AS
E
A
AT
Like
to
just
add
something,
if
I
can
you
want
to
introduce
yourself
I've
done
a
lot
of
this
traffic?
Killing
work
is
a
as
a
consultant.
The
the
modeling
is
based
on
a
validated
model
that
is
accurate
based
on
traffic
counts
that
are
collected
and
verified
and
validated.
So
that's
the
first
thing.
The
other
thing
is
our
staff
works
very
closely
with
the
city
of
Clearwater
staff
and
other
staff
around
Pinellas
County,
to
make
sure
the
employment
and
population
projections
are
reasonably
accurate
as
best
as
we
can
estimate
for
the
future.
AT
So
not
only
did
we
review
it
city
of
Clearwater
Stafford
unit
and
gave
us
input
and
feedback
on
those
traffic
projections
that
were
for
2045,
so
that
was
a
basis
and
that's
the
standard
process
of
how
traffic
is
done.
The
end
result
is
that
golf
today
is
shown
to
be
functioning
at
a
consistent
level
of
service
as
it
is
with
or
without
the
drink.
A
AT
Have
a
couple
of
examples
that
I've
lived
through:
one
is
Edgewater
Drive
in
Orlando,
which
is
in
the
College
Park
neighborhood.
It's
leads
into
downtown,
but
it's
not
the
main
route
into
downtown.
It's
sort
of
like
Drew
in
2004,
the
city
of
Orlando,
converted
that
from
a
four
lane,
undivided
to
a
two-lane,
divided
road
with
a
center
turn
lane,
it
has
generated
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
in
investment
in
the
Edgewater
Drive
Corridor.
It's
one
of
the
most
beautiful
neighborhoods
in
Orlando
I
lived
on
that
quarter
and
I
saw
that
transformation
happen.
AT
The
problem
they
had
was
a
lot
of
safety
issues.
Your
City
attorney
is
familiar
with
this
I'm
sure
too,
safety
issues,
the
city
of
Orlando
did
it
before
and
after
study,
and
showed
that
safety
improved
pedestrian
activity
increased
by
activity.
Increased
traffic
volumes
stayed
the
same
on
Edgewater
Drive.
They
had
a
slight
drop
shortly
after
the
Improvement
and
within
six
months
or
a
year
they
came
back
to
the
same
levels
as
before,
and
those
are
beautiful,
neighborhoods
that
people
really
care
about
traffic
is
not
cutting
through
those
neighborhoods
any
worse.
AT
The
other
example
I
have
is
Main.
Street
in
the
city
of
Gainesville
that
I
had
hand
in
developing
20
years
ago
or
more
that's
a
state
road
still.
It
was
converted
from
a
four-lane
undivided
into
the
center
of
downtown
to
a
two-lane
with
a
center
turn
lane.
There
were
projections
and
worries
that
it
was
going
to
back
up
that
whole
area.
Those
concerns,
never
materialize.
Traffic
does
not
divert
in
other
neighborhoods
and
if
you
go
to
Gainesville
and
look
at
that,
it's
a
part
of
a
vibrant,
functioning
downtown.
AT
AT
Those
bike
lanes
are
really
only
from
the
section
of
Myrtle
West,
where
the
Pinellas
Trail,
which
is
part
to
be
a
75
mile
loop
around
the
county,
comes
right
into
Clearwater
and
it
would
tie
directly
into
Coachman
Park
east
of
Myrtle
we're
really
looking
at
a
wide
sidewalk
and
no
bike
Lanes
there.
There
will
continue
to
be
bike.
Lanes
further
east
that
exist
today,
I
read
those
biplines.
They
are
substandard,
they're
four
feet
wide.
They
will
be
five
feet
wide
with
this
design.
It's
a
little
better.
AT
Well,
I
can't
really
say
for
sure,
but
those
most
of
that
money
is
federal
money
that
the
Ford
Pinellas
board
controls.
We
basically
have
flexible
funds
that
we
allocate
based
on
priorities
that
we
adopt
those
dollars.
My
understanding
is
we'll
get
grabbed
up
on
somebody
else.
If
they
are
not
used
as
allocated
in
fy24
and
they
could
end
up
in
Jacksonville
or
Chipley
or
Orlando
somewhere,
there's
no
guarantee
they
would
stay
in
Pinellas,
County.
A
And
then
I
guess
one
last
thing:
can
you
describe
the
nature
of
crashes
and
seriousness
of
injuries
on
Drew
Street
I
mean
we
heard
some
pretty
moving
testimonial
here.
But
what
can
you
share
with
us
about
the
nature
of
those
crashes?
I.
AT
Can't
compare
with
the
lived
experience
yeah,
but
from
a
data
standpoint
when
we
did
our
Safe
Streets
Pinella
study
a
couple
of
years
ago
in
2020
we
looked
at
crash
data
from
2015
to
2019
instead
of
five
years
worth
of
data,
and
we
found
that
there
were
more
than
550
crashes
in
that
period
along
the
quarter.
We
had
six
or
seven
fatalities.
I,
don't
remember
the
exact
number
of
those
we
did
a
lot
of
serious
injuries.
AT
The
reason
it's
on
the
high
injury
Road
network
is
because
it
is
in
the
top
tier
of
all
roads
in
terms
of
safety,
crashes
and
injuries,
and
these
are
serious
debilitating
injuries
as
well
as
fatalities.
So
it's
it's
up
there
with
Ulmerton
Road
and
US
19
and
those
other
quarters
as
well
based
on
the
volume.
AT
So
it's
relative
I
looked
more
recently
at
data
back
to
2020,
so
2020
through
2022
was
the
most
recent
data
and
we
had
average
of
170
crashes
just
on
the
section
from
Osceola
Avenue
I
didn't
really
bother
looking
on
the
East,
because
we
weren't
looking
at
that
part
for
Lane
repurposing,
so
170
crashes,
60
of
those
were
with
injury
and
we
had
one
fatality
in
that
period.
And
I
know
for
a
fact.
There
was
a
fatality
a
couple
years
before
that,
so
it's
and-
and
we
just
see
it
all
the
time.
AT
Well
and
Brian
can
certainly
answer
that,
but
this
does
not
commit
you
to
every
aspect
of
the
design.
I
know
the
city
has
sent
some
comments.
I
believe
Ken
is
going
to
send
some
comments
and
the
County
Commission
is
actually
discussing
this
on
Thursday.
So
that's
coming
up.
They're
15
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
adjust
the
plan.
The
letter
of
support
is
for
the
label
purposing
and
that's
what
dot
needs
as
part
of
its
process.
AT
That's
established,
Statewide
they're
doing
this
in
places
across
the
state
where
it's
appropriate
and
that
labor
purchasing
letter
just
really
commit
to
you
to
continuing
the
dialogue
on
the
design.
But
if
there's
an
issue
with
where
the
median's
located
or
how
many
medians
or
the
extent
of
the
lane
repurposing,
then
that's
a
conversation
we
can
have.
AS
Yeah,
the
design
is
ongoing,
like
you
said,
I've
committed
when
I
was
doing
the
study
to
it
and
others,
and
even
the
project
design
team
here
that
I'll
continue
to
work
with
them
to
to
you
know
the
dress
issues
are
coming
up
and
and
dealing
with
what
we
try
and
moving
that
in
design.
I.
Think,
like
Whit
had
said.
The
letter
of
support
is
the
part
of
the
process
for
Lane
repurposing.
AS
AS
AS
A
AT
A
Okay,
great
Miss,
Poirier,
anything
to
add
questions.
Yes,.
AV
Please,
thank
you
Mr
Mayor,
so
our
incoming
mayor
has
reached
out,
as
many
people
have
reached
out
to
him
after
being
sworn
as
a
result
to
this
Drew
Street
issue,
and
one
of
the
things
that
he
was
asking
for
Council
to
consider
during
this
is
that
there
was
a
recommendation
for
a
pilot
program
that
was
in
one
of
the
study,
the
2018
Drew
Street
concept
plan,
and
he
is
suggesting
that
we
look
at
that.
So
that
gives
us
a
real-time
opportunity
to
see
what
this
does
before.
We
make
a
decision.
AV
That's
not
reversible,
I
shared
with
you.
What
our
City
attorney
has
shared
in
terms
of
what
the
concept
is
in
terms
of
medians
and
whatnot.
So
that's
what
he's
referring
to
as
a
result
of
this,
and
so
the
concept
plan,
understanding
that
this
could
complicate
things
in
terms
of
additional
questions
on
funding
and
how
to
move
forward.
If
Council
considers
something
like
that,
but
just
for
consideration.
AS
AV
AS
AS
Well,
we
have
the
fundings
for
design,
which
is
typically
spent
on
certain
times.
If
we
don't
meet
those
goals,
it's
just
going
to
push
us
out
enabling
that
sort
of
option
where
we
comb
it
or
stripe
it
to
see
how
the
traffic
operates.
Everything
is
just
going
to
push
out
this
whole
project
in
the
end,
yeah
and
possibly
you
know
it
has
some
effect
on
the
funding.
You
know
it's
not
my
area
that
how
it
gets
moved
around
too
much,
but
you
know
it's.
It's
set
to
be
used
at
a
certain
time.
Z
If
we,
if,
if
we
move
to
send
this
letter,
support
from
Clearwater
they're
still
going
to
have
other
still
going
to
move
forward,
they're
going
to
have
other
public
hearings
and
we
could
maybe
bring
something
up
at
that
point
as
to
design
modifications
of
you
know
of
different
parts.
So
I
think
it's
important
that
we
get
the
letter
support
out.
So
this
moves
keeps
moving
forward.
M
Have
a
lot
to
say
so:
I've
been
hearing
from
both
sides
for
years
and
I
really
do
not
want
to
question
the
sincerity
or
the
motives
of
either
side
I'm,
assuming
that
we
all
agree
that
Drew
Street
is
unsafe
and
it's
ineffective.
The
only
thing
we
don't
agree
about
is
the
solution.
M
I
understand
that
whole
thought
of
kicking
down
the
can
you
know
I'm
very
anxious
about
time
and
I've
been
hearing.
M
Well,
but
I
also
am
aware
of
mistakes
we've
made
and
I
want
to
avoid
that,
and
my
fear
is
that,
while
we're
trying
to
solve
one
problem,
we're
creating
others
and
a
good
example
was
actually
mentioned
by
somebody
tonight
when
we
did
narrow,
Cleveland
Street,
the
consequences
were
true.
That's
why
Drew
became
so
bad
when
we
narrowed
Fort
Harrison
another.
M
You
know
great
idea:
we
created
an
atmosphere
where
it
just
harbored
bad
behavior
from
drivers
backed
up
lighting
intersections
needing
several
Cycles
to
cross
drivers,
ignoring
that
don't
block
intersections
and
frustrated
drivers
going
through
parking
lots
and
little
roads,
I,
don't
think
it's
I,
don't
think.
We
should
minimize
that
we
should
learn
from
what
we've
done
before.
M
M
Why
can't
we
stripe
it
for
three
months,
let's
say
and
see,
because
maybe
my
concerns
will
be
addressed
and
actually
make
the
rest
of
us
feel
comfortable
with
going
forward
or
the
other
way
around
show
us
that
it's
not
plausible
and
make
the
changes
now,
because
what
happened
in
Cleveland
Street
we're
still
dealing
with
the
ramifications
of
that
and
same
thing
with
Fort
Harrison,
so
I'm
just
concerned
that
yet
again
we're
narrowing
another
artery
that
should
be
feeding
the
heart
of
our
city
and
I.
Just
I
don't
want
to
be
perceived
as
not
caring.
M
My
children
went
on
that
street
and
I
made
them
text
me
as
soon
as
they
got
to
school
I,
just
I'm
leery
of
being
quick
for
a
solution
and
I
just
want
to
make
very
clear
I
met
with
Mr
Blanton.
Where
are
you
did
you
leave
here
and
I
enjoyed
our
conversation
and
exchanging
our
ideas
and
I
was
quite
concerned
that
he
thought
I
was
dismissing
his
expertise
and
his
knowledge,
and
it
actually
made
me
uncomfortable
to
have
him
feel
that
way.
M
So
the
best
analogy
that
came
to
my
mind
was
when
you
go
see
your
physician
and
he's
qualified
and
he's
an
expert
and
he's
been
educated.
But
you
as
a
patient,
say
it's
just
not
right
for
me,
it
just
doesn't
feel
right,
so
I'm
not
questioning
anyone's
expertise.
It's
just
a
my
personal
experience
has
shown
that
this
might
not
be
the
solution
and
the
consequences
might
be
ones
that
we're
not
comfortable
with
and
I
just
wanted
to
get
that
pilot
program
to
be
considered
when
I'm
ready
to
make
a
motion
to
see.
A
Q
A
motion
on
the
floor,
the
immediate
question
procedurally,
will
be
whether
someone
seconds.
S
S
If
there's
no
second,
the
motion
fails.
If
there
is
a
second,
then
the
discussion
would
proceed.
M
To
follow
the
recommendations
of
the
2018
proposal
to
have
a
pilot
program
with
striping
and
cones.
AT
So
I
can
just
speak
from
experience.
The
and
first
of
all,
I
was
not
at
all
offended
by
your
question,
so
just
for
the
record
get
that
all
the
time
city
of
Gainesville
did
do
a
pilot
project
for
Main
Street,
the
state
road
331
that
I
mentioned
they
did
it
for
30
days
they
put
traffic,
cones
and
barrels
out
in
the
lanes
just
to
see
how
traffic
would
respond.
It
was
30
days
based
on
that
and
the
modeling
and
traffic
analysis
that
was
done.
They
decided
to
move
forward
with
the
project.
AT
They
did
that
and
then
I
believe
it
was
like
nine
years
later
before
they
actually
did
the
project.
The
reason
for
that
is,
they
did
not
have
the
money
one
year
away.
That
money
was
not
even
in
the
work
program
when
they
did
that
pilot
I.
Think
the
pilot
program
probably
should
have
been
done
in
2018.,
because
now
you're
away
from
construction,
you
do
it
for
three
months:
I
think
it
could
potentially
set
you
back.
AT
There
is
precedent
for
doing
pilots
and
and
those
kinds
of
things,
and
that's
certainly
an
option
on
the
table,
but
I
can't
speak
to
how
that
would
affect
the
funding
that's
available,
and
my
agency
is
certainly
committed
to
doing
before
and
after
studies
we
do
that
for
every
one
of
our
complete
streets
projects,
whether
we
end
up
repurposing
a
lane
or
not,
we
just
did
one
on
Sunset
Point
Road,
where
there's
the
rectangular
rapid
flashing
beacons.
We
felt
they
were
not
installed
right
and
weren't
safe,
so
we
did
a
before
and
after
study.
AT
So
we
do
that
all
the
time,
but
I
I,
don't
think
Orlando
did
the
the
test
they
just
went
and
did
it
pros
and
cons
to
both
of
those.
M
A
AS
Doing
the
pilot
program
and
do
it
for
three
months
and
you
would
have
to
just
like
do
traffic
counts,
do
it
at
a
specific
time,
if
you're
going
to
do
it
in
June,
when
it's
all
schools
out
the
session
and
stuff,
we
usually
won't.
Do
traffic
counts
at
that,
so
I,
don't
think
we're
going
to
collect
enough
good
data
during
that
period
of
time
if
we
move
it
to
when
they
go
back
to
school,
when
my
kids
are
so
old
now
obvious.
AS
So
if
you're
looking
at
September
once
things
get
established,
and
then
you
do
that
for
three
months
we're
heading
up
to
you,
know
December
and
then
we're
looking
at
this
thing
getting
wrapped
up
in
June
of
next
year
or
so.
AS
AU
AU
AU
So
in
essence,
a
pilot
program
I'm
not
too
sure
where
that
really
fits
in
that
in
that
three
to
six
months,
because
the
fact
that,
as
I
mentioned
before,
because
contractor
has
to
also
been
on
this
job
and
it's
going
to
be
most
likely
30
to
60
days
advertising
period.
So
you
subtract
that
60
days
from
the
June
wedding,
you
go
back
now,
two
months
prior
to
that,
we
have
to
have
everybody
concurrence
hired
from
another
60
days.
AU
AU
Goes
each
day
by
day
nothing
really
changes
as
we
design
goes
with
City
County
for
canals,
everybody
will
come
and
go
all
together
in
that
sense
that
we
send
plans
through
digitally.
We
have
so-called
ERC
plans
where
everybody
can
comment
on
it,
and
also
we
have
a
half
dozens
of
meeting
moving
forward
and
I'm,
not
top
at
all
we're
going
to
have
a
public
meeting,
but
probably
once
again
through
public
meeting,
we
make
sure
the
agency
buyout
on
our
design.
The
thing
is
for
us
to
move
forward
to
that
point.
AT
S
The
question
will
be
council:
member
tacheta
has
heard
some
of
the
feedback,
so
the
options.
Q
Are
either
to
maintain
that
motion
or
to
withdraw
it?
If
the
motion
is
maintained,
then
the
question
is
whether
someone
is
seconding.
A
A
A
A
We'll
move
on
to
the
regular
meeting.
Do
you
want
to
take
a
meeting?
Okay,
we're
going
to
take
a
five
minute
recess
for
bathroom.
A
A
A
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
A
C
Just
wanted
to
say
that
I
was
amused
to
see
that
my
Whimsical
yet
scathing,
takedown
of
Scientology
in
the
closing
comments
which
preview
Tracy
mcmanus's
latest
article
in
the
Tampa
Bay
Times
about
deception
in
downtown
that
got
boiled
down
to
council
member
bunker
says
he
has
barely
recovered
from
L
Ron
Hubbard's
birthday
earlier
in
the
week,
which
made
me
laugh
so.
M
A
Yeah,
second,
all
in
favor
any
post,
okay,
approval
of
the
minutes.
All
right
are
there
any
citizens
to
be
heard
for
items
not
on
the
agenda.
AX
Hi,
my
name
is
Angelica
Lonesome
I
am
a
13-year
resident
of
Clearwater
I've
been
coming
down
here
since
I
was
a
child
because
my
grandmother
lived
here.
AX
AX
For
so
long
I've
seen
the
area
grow
and
change
and
I've
noticed
the
need
that
there
is
the
the
green
space
in
the
area
is
underserved,
there's
only
one
park
in
the
area
that
has
no
green
space
whatsoever,
it's
over
by
the
Bayside
bridge
and
with
the
water
treatment
plant
being
there.
It's
not
necessarily
at
this
moment
the
best
place
to
put
a
playground
there.
AX
I
have
met
with
various
various
experts
and
City
officials
in
the
Parks
and
Rec
Department,
and
with
the
city,
council
and
I
have
identified
not
only
Bayview
Park,
but
a
couple
other
properties,
it's
centrally
located
near
the
Clearwater
Mall.
That
may
be.
AX
In
my
study,
I
have
studied
the
cost
of
surfacing
and
equipment
what
it
would
look
like
for
a
public
partner,
a
public
private
partnership
and
how
the
city
could
go
about
that
and
I
also
looked
at
the
demographics
of
the
area
in
the
area.
There's
roughly
20
24
excuse
me:
2400
households,
260
households
with
children
under
18
that
roughly
amounts
to
like
600
children.
AX
There
are
various
supporting
plans
that
that
that
support
this
from
the
city
that
include
the
US
19
degree
development
plan,
the
the
comprehensive
plan
which
is
currently
under
under
renewal
or
review
right
now,
and
complete
streets
and
green
print
2.0,
all
of
which
would
support
increasing
safety,
walkability
and
the
green
space
in
the
area.
AX
My
recommendations
from
my
findings
of
my
study
are
to
look
into
serving
into
installing
a
playground
in
a
Southeast
Clearwater,
so
that
we
can
serve
the
needs
of
the
current
and
future
residents
of
the
city.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
AN
AN
AN
AN
This
is
Glen,
Oaks
Park
you've
got
trash
coming
in
right
up
there
more
trash,
the
creek
comes
down
through
Glen,
Oaks,
Park
and
there's
trash
all
through
there,
and
it's
all
silted
up
and
there's
some
birds.
And
then
this
is
Glen.
Oaks
Park,
it's
tilted
up,
there's
two
drainage
things
on
the
outside
and
there's
the
bridge
that
goes
under
the
water
that
goes
into
the
Eastgate
area.
These
are
the
holding
ponds
that
sit
over
there
they're
silted
up
you
can
see.
This
is
coming
out
now.
I
complain
about
dumpsters.
AN
There's
dumpsters
can
all
along
this.
This
ditch
basically,
but
this
is
Stevenson's
Creek.
So
it
goes
under
these
Bridges
there's
the
done.
I
mean
it
just
drains.
You
see
trash,
you
have
this
whole,
but
the
water's
clear,
okay,
no
matter
the
water
is
clear,
I
mean
you
got.
You've
got
Reeds,
you've
got.
This
is
you're
supposed
to
clear
water.
This
goes
through
your
downtown.
AN
This
is
this
is
what
okay
now
you're
in
that
you're
in
a
golf
course,
and
the
water's
clear
is
coming
out
of
the
golf
course
as
soon
as
it
comes
out
of
the
golf
course,
it
says
green!
Look,
it's
just
gross
it
spills
down
into
this
holy
thing.
There's
this
big
dark
drain
under
that
this
is
by
Palmetto
Street.
It
comes
under
Palmetto
Street,
and
then
it
just
sits
there
stagnant
dead,
fish
and
just
nasty,
and
then
he
comes
down.
AN
This
is
Stevenson
Street
and
all
of
a
sudden
you're
right
at
Betty
Lane
and
that's
a
public
park.
You
go
under
the
bridge.
This
is
all
down.
This
is
Stevenson's
Creek
the
waters
bring
a
nasty.
The
main
roads
are
full.
You
can't
even
get
to
it,
it's
so
gross,
and
then
it's
silted
up
under
the
bridges.
AN
AN
X
I
guess
I'm
going
through
the
trifecta
tonight,
Rudy
micro,
55,
Bayway,
Boulevard,
Clearwater,
Point,
actually
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
a
neighbor
who
was
sitting
next
sitting
next
to
me
during
most
of
the
meeting
but
evidently
had
to
leave.
His
name
is
Mike
Nelson
Mike
lives
in
the
Admiral
house,
which
is
immediately
at
the
corner
of
golf
and
Golf
View.
X
The
Sand
Key
Bridge
in
Golfview
that
goes
into
Clearwater
Point
and
what
he
wanted
to
bring
to
your
attention
is
the
amount
of
Noise
music
and
volume
filtering
Down,
Golf,
View
and
down
the
Waterside,
where
all
the
bands
are
on
the
back
of
the
different
hotels
and
and
the
feeling
from
is
the
people
who
live
in
his
building.
The
Admiral
house
I
have
great
concern
about
the
amount
of
noise
going
on,
so
I
simply
bring
that
to
your
attention
for
investigation
and
I'm
just
doing
my
civic
duty.
So
thank
you
very
much.
P
A
So
we'll
move
on
to
Second
readings
for
ordinances
on
second
readings,
8.1,
Mr,
Margolis,.
Q
So
8.1
is
ordinance:
Number,
96,
43-23
and
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Clearwater
Florida,
making
amendments
to
the
Community
Development
code
by
amending
Article
2
zoning
districts,
chart
2-100
and
the
medium
density,
residential,
commercial,
institutional
and
open
space
Recreation
districts
by
amending
article
3
development
standards,
fences
and
walls,
General,
applicability
standards,
home-based
businesses,
Landscaping
tree
protection,
parking
and
lodging
signs
temporary
uses,
dog
friendly
restaurants
and
Community
Gardens
and
urban
Farms
divisions
by
amending
Article,
4
development
review
and
other
procedures,
General
procedures
and
level
3
approvals
Decisions
by
amending
article
8
definitions
and
rules
of
construction
by
amending
appendix
B,
U.S
19.
J
Good
evening,
Susan
Crockett,
Louisa,
Hall
and
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
council
so
much
for
your
listening
to
us
and
helping
us
to
get
the
code
changed
so
that
we
can
put
a
beautiful
new
Marquee
down
on
Cleveland
Street
at
the
bill.
Heimer
Capitol,
Theater
and
I
think
the
timing
could
not
be
better
with
this
beautiful
new
park.
That's
opening!
So
we
appreciate
your
support.
Thank
you.
A
M
M
Q
Ordinance
number
9654-29
coordinates
of
the
city
of
Clearwater
Florida
amending
the
future
land
use
element
of
the
comprehensive
plan
of
the
city
to
designate
the
land
use
for
certain
real
property
located
on
the
west
side
of
West
Manor
Avenue
East
of
the
intersection
of
Calumet
Street
and
North
Belcher
Road,
whose
post
office
address
is
1754.
West,
Manor,
Avenue,
Clearwater,
Florida,
33765,
upon
annexation
into
the
city
of
Clearwater
as
residential
low
RL,
providing
an
effective
date.
M
X
Rudy
Mike
855,
Bayway,
Boulevard,
council
members,
Ms
player,
I,
I
guess.
The
only
thing
I
would
like
to
mention
is
that
we're
at
a
point
halfway
through
the
year
that
we're
amending
the
operating
budget
now
I
can
understand
if
revenues
or
expenses
exceed
the
budget
item
in
terms
of
an
actual
number
that's
going
on,
but
I'm
surprised
that
there
would
be
a
need
to
actually
amend
the
budget
itself
now.
I'm,
not
familiar
with
government
budgets.
X
AY
Jay
Ravens
Finance
director,
the
quarterly
budget
amendment
process
is
a
normal
function
of
Florida
governments.
It
is
a
it's
an
opportunity
to
address
issues
that
have
Arisen
since
the
adoption
of
the
initial
budget.
Often
those
are
items
that
have
been
brought
forward
to
council.
The
council
has
approved
that
we're
not
included
in
the
original
budget.
It's
an
opportunity
to
make
those
types
of
adjustments
more
of
the
actual
results
versus
budget.
Those
are
typically
amendments
later
in
the
year,
such
as
third
quarter,
when
we
true
up
budgets
based
on
actual
results.
AY
Typically,
when
revenues
have
come
in
greater
than
anticipated,
but
first
quarter
typically
is,
is
basically
making
adjustments
for
items
that
Council
has
approved
via
the
agenda
process.
Okay,.
X
Rudy
michaelek,
council
members,
I
guess
I,
would
I
would
still
have
the
same
question
here.
My
business
practices
of
doing
a
budget
was
always
based
upon.
That
was
a
goal
that
was
a
Target.
That's
how
we
were
going
to
operate
things
that
caused
a
change
during
the
course
of
the
year
was
just
a
matter
of
fact
things.
This
is
how
we've
actually
operated,
and
it
helps
us
guide
us
for
the
next
budget
period.
So
again
we're
adding
another
roughly
four
million
dollars.
X
It
appears
to
Capital,
Improvements
and
I
I
guess
I
would
Echo
a
concern.
I've
heard
in
recent
meetings
about
you
know.
Are
we
really
keeping
this
watch
on
how
we're
spending
the
money?
Because
if
we
keep
moving,
if
we
keep
changing
the
budget,
we
keep
moving
the
Target
that
we're
aiming
at
getting
to
and
at
some
point
we
may
be
spending
a
great
deal
more
money
than
was
anticipated
at
the
beginning
of
a
period,
so
I
just
I
just
share
that
as
a
concern
as
a
tax
paying
citizen.
Thank
you.
A
Well,
I
would
say
you
know
as
we
move
along
through
the
months
and
we
have
agenda
items
where
we
approve
money
and
different
money
comes
in.
This
is
just
an
opportunity
to
rectify
the
books
to
even
up
the
books
as
we
go
along
quarterly
Mr
Ravens
mean
you
want
to
justify,
explain
any
further,
but
we've
already
spent
the
money
and
absorbed
the
money.
This
is
just
to
make
it
more
official
in
the
books.
AY
Again,
Jerry
Evans
Finance
director.
Another
important
distinction
with
the
government
is
that
we
have
legally
adopted
budgets
that
we
legally
cannot
exceed,
whereas
a
business
may
use
a
budget
or
as
a
management
tool
and
if
they
exceed
the
budget,
that's
just
a
an
observation
that
they
have
exceeded
the
budget.
For
us.
It's
it's
a
legal
issue,
so
we
have
to
legally
amend
the
budget.
We're
not
allowed
to
overspend
the
budget.
P
H
Good
evening
Denise
Anderson,
Economic,
Development
and
housing
as
Rosemary
stated,
the
item
is
being
continued.
What
circulated
was
a
draft
document
that
has
since
been
amended,
but
it's
come
to
my
attention
that
some
concerns
have
been
raised
by
one
more
members
of
council
regarding
a
component
of
that
document
related
to
grant
funding
of
solar
installation.
H
So
if
it
is
your
preference,
we
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
financial
feasibility
of
solar
and
why
it's
being
presented
in
that
draft
contract
as
such,
and
then,
if
you'd
like
to
provide
feedback
or
guidance
about
how
we
approach
solar
generally.
That
would
be
welcome
information.
So
I
do
apologize
for
the
mistake.
It
was
my
error
in
keeping
that
agenda
in
the
system
I
intended
to
move
that
forward
until
we
had
a
finalized
document
and
I
failed
to
do
so
so
I
apologize.
H
The
document
as
I
mentioned,
has
been
amended
and
is
being
circulated.
We
anticipate
bringing
it
back
unless
there
are
changes
that
you
recommend.
We
anticipate
bringing
that
back
at
the
next
meeting
on
April
20th.
So
thank
you
for
your
Indulgence
I'd
like
to
talk,
as
I
said,
about
a
specific
element
of
the
proposed
funding,
but
not
about
the
agreement.
H
So
in
terms
of
the
financial
considerations
and
feasibility
of
solar,
there
are
several
factors
to
consider
for
little
minor
income.
Households
one
is
that
it
should
be
installed.
It
should
be
installed
in
conjunction
with
the
new
rule,
so
as
not
to
potentially
void
a
roof
warranty,
and
since
it
will
presumably
last
for
the
lifetime
of
the
roof,
it
will
help
avoid
any
burdens
and
expense
of
uninstalling
and
reinstalling
panels
should
approved
replacement,
be
necessary.
A
significant
and
important
homeowner
education
components
include
maintenance
and
potential
increase
in
premiums
for
homeowners
insurance.
H
So
there's
a
a
component
there
with
homeowners
that
require
some
education
and
information
and
though
it
is
a
significant
expense.
The
investment
does
not
actually
yield
in
the
appraisal
so
making
an
investment
of
18
to
25,
000
or
whatever.
That
number
is
in
solar
panel
installations.
It
does
not
show
up
in
the
appraisal
and
that's
an
important
component
as
we
move
through
this
discussion
and
per
head
rules
regarding
income
qualification
standards.
Lenders
may
not
use
the
reduction
of
electricity
costs
as
a
decrease
in
the
debt
to
income
or
back
end
ratios.
H
So
in
short,
it
means
there's
an
impact
to
current
upfront
costs,
risks
of
increased
insurance
premiums,
maintenance
possibility,
avoided,
roof,
warranties,
and
these
things
must
be
thoughtfully
considered
and
compared
to
the
potential
Savings
of
electricity.
So
for
income
constrained
households
we're
finding
that
these
are
very
significant
barriers
that
require
a
mitigation.
H
So,
in
moving
into
policy
considerations,
I
will
wrap
this
all
up
with
with
sort
of
where
we
are
right.
So
in
terms
of
policy
considerations,
we
look
to
greenprint
2.0
and
what
we
commonly
refer
to
again
is
this
3.3
million
dollar
arpa
allocations,
so
grouper
2.0
has
an
established
goal
of
rooftop
solo
to
be
installed
on
homes
of
1,
000,
low
and
moderate
income
residents
by
2030.
and
I
know.
I
have
made
this
mistake
and
I've
heard
it
several
times.
H
One
thousand
little
moderate
income
homes
we're
talking
about
residents
and
with
an
average
population
of
1.86
persons
per
household.
What
that
really
means
is
about
540
homes
is
the
target,
but
based
on
financial
considerations.
I've
described
making
progress
against
this
goal
is
very,
very
difficult
and
it
can
really
only
be
achieved
for
these
populations
through
contributions
or
subsidy,
and
that
brings
us
to
this
3.3
million
dollar
allocation.
So
on
November
3rd
you
will
approved
policies
for
economic
development
and
housing
to
administer
These
funds,
and
specifically,
we
talked
about
several
strategies.
H
H
So
in
closing,
I
need
to
get
feedback.
These
policies
that
I
just
described
understanding
where
we
are
with
Green
Point
understanding.
If
you
concur
with
my
conclusions
at
the
financial
feasibility
for
Target
populations,
that
it
requires
subsidy
if
you're
not
comfortable,
with
the
way
that
we've
come
forward
with
arpa
allocations
under
the
policy
established
on
November
3rd
for
rooftop
solar.
It
would
be
helpful
to
know
this
before
I
bring
the
item
forward
happy
to
take
any
feedback
from
questions.
Z
A
question:
are
we
looking
at
Roi
on
solar,
no.
Z
Okay,
because
you
know
for
the
life
of
the
roof,
well,
you
may
put
a
25-year
roof
on
there,
but
insurance
requires
that
you
re-roof
in
15
years,
so
they
won't
insure
you
so.
A
Any
other
questions
no
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
So,
first
of
all,
I
appreciate
the
work
you've
done.
I'll
make
a
few
Corrections,
just
from
my
experience,
in
speaking
with
a
number
of
people
who
have
solar,
I've
had
solar
on
my
roof
for
five
years.
A
I
have
so
I've
experience
with
solar
and
I'm
in
a
town
home
similar
to
what
and
the
square
footage
that
these
people
are
a
part
of
this
project,
and
so
a
couple
of
things,
there's
really
no
maintenance
on
solar
on
my
roof.
I
have
not
been
educated
in
it.
We
don't
have
to
do
maintenance
on
it.
We
have.
There
are
electrical
components
when
solar
is
installed.
That
will
let
you
know
how
your
panels
are
working.
You
don't
have
to
climb
up
three
stories
on
a
roof,
so
there
really
isn't
maintenance
on
that.
A
A
The
return
on
investment
is
at
least
three
to
one
and,
as
duke
increases
their
rates
for
electricity.
The
return
on
investment
will
be
even
greater.
We
do
have
green
print,
which
I
I
didn't
understand
your.
A
It
was
my
understanding
that
green
print
says
we're
going
to
have
solar
on
1000
low
to
moderate
income
homes
by
2030,
but
you're,
saying
it's
540
homes.
It's.
AK
A
I
am
absolutely
in
favor
of
what
we
agreed
to
before
in
November
of
using
the
affordable
housing
bucket
arpa
funds
for
solar
on
these
540
homes,
or,
as
we
start
to
make
a
dent
in
that
these
are
residents
workers
in
our
community,
who
would
very
likely
not
ever
be
able
to
put
solar
on
their
home,
afford
to
put
solar
on
their
home,
especially
those
at
80
percent
and
under
the
12
units
with
habitat,
the
ones
that
have
120
Ami
very
well
might,
but
still
it's
120,
Ami,
so
I
think
it's
a
good
use
of
our
our
funds.
A
H
A
A
Again,
I
would
hear
from
anyone
else
if
you
have
a
problem
with
this
money
coming
out
of
our
affordable
housing
bucket,
but
I
would
say
in
looking
at
this
document
that
was
attached.
That's
in
draft
form.
A
We
have
to
be
very,
very
Savvy
and
very
very
informed
about
the
amount
of
money
that
we're
willing
to
pay
for
a
five
kilowatt
system
and
what
that
means,
because
I
just
think
that's
very,
very
important,
and
when
we
talk
to
people
who
are
wordsmithing
this
document,
the
other
thing
that
was
part
of
it-
and
this
is
part
of
our
education-
is
EV.
Ready
in
a
garage
does
not
mean
a
110
or
120
outlet,
and
so
people
need
to
understand.
You
know
that
difference
as
we
go
forward.
A
So
you
know
if
your
question
today
is
and
I
think
if
you're
asking
for
guidance,
if
your
question
today
is,
can
whatever
funding
the
city
wants
to
put
towards
solar
on
these
low
and
moderate
income
homes
comes
out
of
that
arpa,
affordable
housing
bucket,
then,
is
that
that's
the
only
guidance
you're
looking
for
today.
That's
correct.
Q
Well,
Miss
Anderson
is
her
item.
I
would
say
that,
as
she
pointed
out,
I
mean
the
council
had
previously
approved
in
concept
the
idea
that
a
portion
of
the
3.3
million
from
the
affordable
housing
bucket
could
be
put
toward
this
purpose.
But
it's
one
thing
to
say
it
at
a
high
level
in
a
concept.
It's
something
else.
A
H
Correct
so
you
know
I've
heard
from
one
haven't
heard
from
all
of
you,
where
you're
feeling
on
this,
so
I
can't
say
that
I've
received
consensus
on
guidance,
but
you
know
if
we're
making
no
changes
to
the
proposed
contract
other
than
what's
been
amended,
and
you
have
not
seen
then
we'll
be
bringing
it
forward
in
April.
If
you
would
rather
talk
about
changing
your
policies
associated
with
the
arpa
allocation
as
it
relates
to
Rooftop
solar.
H
If
that's
on
the
table,
then
then
you
know,
of
course,
that
that
changes
things
so
I
did
take
a
quick
peek
at
what
we're
seeing
so
far
in
activity
on
the
arpa
allocation
and
if
I
may
just
share
some
data
with
you
So.
Currently
we
have
encumbered
183
600,
that's
five
and
a
half
percent
of
the
total
3.3
of
that
15
of
these
projects
were
emergency
grants
at
five
thousand
dollars
each
and
two.
H
What
we
call
enhanced
down
payment
assistance,
loans,
utilizing
arpa
funds
for
108
000
600.,
so
it
appears
that
we
have
11
rehab
or
emergency
repair
projects
currently
in
various
stages
of
the
application
process,
and
up
to
eight
of
these
may
be
eligible
for
some
portion
of
our
performance.
It's
hard
to
tell
until
we
go
through
underwriting
the
different
aspects,
but
none
of
these
appear
to
be
solar,
related
and
as
it
relates
to
solar.
H
Specifically,
we
have
in
again
very
early
stages
of
application,
two
to
six
single-family
homes,
new
home
construction
projects,
I
believe,
two
of
them.
It's
intended
to
be
solar,
there's
reason
to
preserve
it,
so
it
would
be
appropriate
keeping
in
mind
that
not
all
homes
are
appropriate
depending
on
the
trees
and
canopies
things
that
are
around,
but
right
now
it
appears
that
at
least
two
of
these
six
would
be
solar,
appropriate,
a
single
family
construction
projects,
so
the
432
thousand
dollars.
That's
in
question
here
for
for
this
item
that
you'll
be
seeing
soon.
A
Well
and
I'll
add
to
a
couple
things
number
one:
we
approved
green
print
2.0
that
has
measurable
goals.
How
are
we
going
to
meet
those
goals?
If
we
don't
use
some
of
these
funds?
The
other
thing,
I
would
say,
is
putting
a
five
kilowatt
system
on
a
low
to
moderate
income
home.
That's
probably
you
know,
1500
1600
square
feet
is
adequate
and
paying.
A
We
should
pay
about
12
500
for
a
five
kilowatt
system.
That's
that's
a
reasonable
price
and
the
other
thing
is.
There
are
different.
Federal
subsidies
and
tax
breaks
that
we
can
look
at
to
even
lower
it
even
more
and
so
we've
got
green
print.
We
have
arpa
funds,
we
have
a
lower
dollar
amount
and
we
have
arpa
funds
that
have
to
be
encumbered
by
what
the
end
of
2024
correct,
all
right,
and
so
we've
got
to
move
on
this
and
I
think
it
checks
off
a
number
of
boxes.
A
Whether
or
not
you
know
these
numbers
that
we've
seen
on
this
draft
that
isn't
finalized
I,
think
we
talk
about
numbers
and
hopefully
they'll
improve
when
we
see
it
later
in
April,
but
I.
Think
if
the
question
today
is
just
you
know,
are
we
open
to
considering
this
I
think
we
should
be
come
on
Boardman.
A
A
Z
R
Good
evening
Council
I'm
Joe
to
Seco
with
Public
Works
engineering,
the
U.S
epa's
Brownfield
programs
provides
grants
and
technical
assistance
to
safely
clean
up
and
sustainably
reuse
contaminated
properties.
R
First
activity
seemed
a
little
slow,
I
think
that
was
likely
due
to
what
was
going
on
in
2021
develops
for
soda
to
move,
but
it's
ramped
up
inverting
more
to
two
grants
and
have
five
applications
that
we're
currently
reviewing
that
will
be
pushing
through
soon.
R
M
Nope:
okay,
okay,
all
right
do
I,
have
a
motion
motion
to
approve
agenda
item
9.2.
Second,.
P
A
AZ
X
To
get
a
number
all
right,
thank
you
very
much
for
that,
because
my
question
was:
how
can
you
just
do
this
for
five
months,
which
is
March
through
July,
and
you
just
explained
that
so
now
the
whole
thing
is
clear
in
terms
of
where
we're
going
for
the
long
term.
So
thank.
A
In
a
second
second,
all
right,
all
those
in
approved
I.
Any
opposed.
Okay
motion
carries
agenda
item
9.5.
P
BA
Or
Council
good
evening:
yes,
this
is
a
assignments
to
approve
a
three-year
contract
with
Tyler
munis
for
continued
support
and
maintenance,
or
financial
and
human
Capital
Management
Systems.
The
item
also
includes
a
one-time
charge
of
approximately
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
to
Professional
Services
to
support
migrating
our
communist
environment
on-premises
data
center
to
the
cloud.
So,
if
you
haven't
answered
any
questions,
no.
A
P
9.6,
appoint
an
individual
to
The
brownfields
Advisory
board
with
a
term
to
expire,
April,
4,
2027.,
council
members,
Ms
ladrilla
Jackson,
has
resigned.
She
has
been
serving
on
the
committee
and
is
not
able
to
continue
serving
so
she
has
completed
her
term
in
the
because
Miss
Jackson
was
doing
was
serving
in
the
Resident
category
individual
that
must
reside
in
the
area.
We
were
able
to
find
one
applicant
Katrina
George
for
your
consideration.
A
P
An
individual
is
a
new
development
board
for
an
unexpired
term
through
March,
2nd
2027.
council
members.
Unfortunately,
Ms
duffine
had
to
resign
due
to
work
schedule
changes
for
your
consideration.
We
do
have
applicants
only
two,
but
we
do
have
Mr
Hupp,
who
is
a
real
estate
developer
and
Mr
hudkin,
who
is
currently
serving
as
an
alternate
member,
is
about
fruit.
Consideration.
M
M
Z
Yeah
I'd,
like
to
last
time,
I
we
went
through
this
I
would
like
Andrew
Hupp
appointed,
and
so
we
did.
We
went.
A
Z
Motion
to
appoint
Andrew
Hupp
to
the
Community
Development
board.
Second,.
A
P
Elect
a
council
member
to
serve
as
vice
mayor
council,
as
required
by
City
Charter
at
the
first
meeting
in
April.
The
election
of
the
vice
mayor's
occur
must
occur
amongst
the
council
members.
What
I
have
outlined
in
the
agenda
is
basically
prescribed
by
the
current
Council
schedule.
So
last
year,
councilmember
bunker
declined
to
serve
as
a
vice
mayor.
So
there
are
a
few
options
that
Council
may
take
either
a
go
back
to
last
year.
P
C
A
AV
Good
evening
so
for
our
recycling
update
this
evening,
I
wanted
to
let
everybody
know
that
our
consultant
Kessler
is
on
board.
So
we
have
reached
an
agreement,
the
agreement
assigned
and
he
has
begun
the
work.
His
first
line
of
business
is
to
help
us
with
the
RFP
RFP
is
out
on
the
street
for
single
stream
Recycling
and
that
closes
on
April
14th
at
10
A.M.
So
that's
what
he
would
be
working
on
first.
AV
Secondly,
he
is
going
to
assist
us
with
our
routing
issues
and
with
routing
it's
not
just
a
matter
of
determining
where
you
know
the
the
most
efficient
way
to
pick
up
the
route,
but
it's
also
another
tool
that
we
can
use
for
accountability
to
making
sure
in
terms
of
our
rates
and
what
is
being
collected
and
whatnot.
So
we're
excited
to
have
him
on
board.
It's
great
news
to
have
him
with
us
and
I
wanted
to.
AV
AV
So
that's
a
drastic
improvement
very
proud,
and
the
last
update
that
I
have
as
it
relates
to
recycling,
is
that
we
are
working
with
public
Communications
to
have
these
numbers
updated
monthly
and
put
it
on
our
website
as
a
way
to
let
the
public
know
how
much
we
are
recycling,
which
is
a
majority
of
what
we
it
is
that
we
collected
this
time
and
then
we
hope
that,
with
this
RFP,
that
we'll
actually
be
doing
that
at
a
reduced
rate.
Here
in
the
very
near
future.
AY
Good
evening,
Council
J
Ravens
Finance
director.
This
item
is
a
brief
update
on
the
city's
Financial
condition,
as
requested
by
Council
have
an
attack,
an
attachment
to
the
item.
That's
when
you
should
each
have
a
hard
copy
of
your
display
on
the
screen.
AY
AY
AY
Z
M
To
shoot
I
also
want
to.
Thank
you.
The
only
thing
that
I
that
is
disheartening
to
me
is
that
there's
no
media
around
here
right
now,
they're
all
gone,
because
it's
just
not
sexy
enough
to
be
here,
but
these
are
the
hard
facts
and
I
really
appreciate
the
way
you
clearly
communicated
them,
and
maybe
I
should
just
get
this
clip
on
video
and
put
it
on
my
social
media
and
next
door
and
Facebook
and
Instagram,
but
I
really.
Thank
you,
you're
the
way
you
portrayed.
C
I
also
thank
you
for
bringing
forward
the
information
to
us.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
get
this
out
there,
because
there
seems
to
be
a
campaign
against
us
right
now,
which
I
think
is
regrettable
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
that
campaign
is
going
to
slow
down.
But
I
think
the
best
thing
that
we
can
do
is
do
a
good
job
for
the
citizens
of
Clearwater,
spend
our
money
wisely
and
move
the
city
forward.
A
Q
Well,
it
certainly
is
encouraging
to
see
people
still
in
the
audience
here
for
10.1
the.
Q
Esta
agreement
involving
Beach
service
for
Jolly
Trolley
I
know
has
been
at
the
Forefront
of
thousands
of
our
citizens
Minds.
So
please
share
our
constituents
that
we
have
it
under
control,
so
this
will
secure
our
Arrangement
PSTA
and
Jolly
Trolley,
not
only
for
this
year,
but
also
for
the
next
year.
We
have
a
simplified
formulas.
Both
PSTA
was
supportive
of
that,
as
well
as
our
staff
so
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Z
A
Right
we're
all
in
favor,
you
don't
need
to.
Q
Q
BA
O
O
Z
A
Q
10.3
Council,
it
is
my
good
pleasure
to
announce
the
finalization
of
our
employment
contract
with
Miss
Claire,
so
we
have
successfully
concluded
negotiations
and
I
could
not
be
happier
to
present
this
item
to
council
for
your
consideration
and
approval.
It's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
her
and
can't
wait
to
see
what
the
future
holds.
A
A
Sorry
yeah,
my
cold
medication
is
12
hours
where,
where
has
worn
off
so,
if
we're
voting
on
this,
do
we
have
public
comment
all
right?
Anyone
from
the
public
here
to
comment
on
agenda
item
10.3.
AN
Being
a
city
manager
but
I
can't
basically
it's
because
of
the
way
you
handled
the
recycling
issue.
I've
got
a
video.
This
is
from
2018..
There
was
a
conversation
by
at
a
city
council
work
session
because
you
guys
got
reported
for
not
Recycling,
and
this
is
the
conversation.
So
it's
important
that
you.
AY
AW
AW
AW
AN
Right,
so
basically,
you
guys
don't
don't
throw
your
contaminants,
because
you
don't
have
a
place
to
sort.
So
basically
the
drivers
pick
up
the
recycles
and
they
either
they
make
the
owners
they
make
decision
on
the
spot,
either
to
take
it
to
the
dump
and
burn
it
or
take
it
over
to
Tampa
to
recycle.
This
was
your
old
process.
You
did
okay,
none
of
this
was
brought
up
at
the
last
at
the
last
meeting.
The
only
thing
that
was
brought
up
was
the
step.
You
blamed
the
staff
all
right.
Thanks
Cassie
it
wasn't.
X
X
They
have
provided
for
negotiation
skills,
I
presume
between
Mr,
Margolis
and
Mr,
and
Miss
Poirier,
which
you
are
now
to
approve
deal,
is
done
unless
you're
overpaying,
her
or
underpaying
her
I
don't
have
a
problem,
nor
should
anybody
in
the
city
it's
time
to
just
approve
things,
move
on,
give
it
to
her
and
let
her
run
her
shop.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
any
further
comment:
yes,
yeah
I,
miss
councilmember
bunker
and
then
councilman
Robert.
C
Well,
I'm
in
the
recycling
disaster
is
exactly
that
and
when
you
came
in
to
take
over
all
of
this,
this
was
just
another
mess
that
no
one
expected
and
I
don't
think
anybody
currently
on
the
council
was
aware
of
what
you
know
the
last
Council
was
going
through
then,
and
apparently
we
weren't
getting
straight
answers
from
solid-based,
so
I
I
just
think
now,
you're
you're
doing
everything
you
can
to
set
the
set
this
straight
and
I
have
every
confidence
that
that
you
will
and
I'm
I'm
happy
actually
happy
that
the
FBI
stepped
in
and
said
we're
going
to
look
into
this,
and
it's
good
that
we're
working
with
them
to
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
everything
and
make
sure
it's
handled
properly.
Z
You
handle
that
dead
on
the
way
it
should
have
been
handled
you
you
came
out
with
it.
Let
everybody
know
what
was
going
on
and
was
very
transparent
about
the
whole
thing
you're
doing
it
give
us
updates
on
it.
I
couldn't
be
happier
with
that
and
I
just
wanted
to
mention.
I
see
your
family
back
here
and
I
know
they're,
proud
of
you
too.
So
thank
you.
M
Membership,
it
was
actually
your
ability
to
handle
these
challenging
conflicts
through
no
fault
of
your
own.
The
way
you
did
it
that
made
me
very
comfortable
with
appointing
you
and
overlooking
what
other
people
might
say
is
experience.
You
just
got
plunged
into
it
intensely
and
you've
proved
your
your
ability
and
your
Poise.
So
this
whole
know
recycling
thing
to
me:
you
shined
you
were
so
transparent.
You
were
so
quick
and
Swift
and
professional,
so
I'm
very
happy
to
have
you
on.
A
Well,
I'm
happy
to
make
it
official
with
a
signed
contract
tonight.
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
Mr
Margolis
for
working
to
formulate
that
contract
Miss
Poirier,
as
I've
said
in
the
in
different
statements,
I'm,
proud,
happy
and
I
think
we're
very
fortunate
that
you're
leading
the
city
and
I'm,
confident
in
your
abilities
and
Leadership
I,
wish
you
congratulations.
Do
I
have
a
motion
for
agenda
item
10.3
I'll
make
that
motion
tonight.
Sorry.
A
A
All
right
so
item
10.4
is
just
to
provide
staff
Direction
on
the
Instagram
sponsorship.
Q
Thank
you
Council,
so
I
know
it's
after
nine
o'clock,
but
our
broker
for
the
city,
who
is
handling
our
naming
rights
for
the
amphitheater,
is
looking
to
the
city
for
some
direction
and
they
superlative
have
been
talking
with
prospective
sponsors,
and
they
have
a
number
that
they've
been
talking
with.
One
of
the
main
questions
that
they're
getting
asked
by
sponsors
is
whether
we
intend
to
keep
the
name
the
sound,
which
has
been
published
previously
as
part
of
the
amphitheater.
Q
Some
sponsors
are
perfectly
fine
with
that
name.
Some
may,
like
that
name,
others
may
want
to
get
rid
of
that
name
and
so
superlative
because
they
represent
us,
is
looking
to
us
for
guidance
as
to
whether
they
meaning
superlative
should
tell
sponsors
that,
yes,
we
will
get
rid
of
that
name
if
a
sponsor
wants
them
to
get
wants
us
to
get
over
there
name
or
should
we
tell
sponsors
that
that
name
stays
and
that
any
sponsor
who's
interested
in
partnering
with
us
needs
to
incorporate
that
name
into
it?
Q
So
not
surprisingly,
there
may
be
some
different
perspectives
on
this
from
Eckhart
or
Miss
Crockett's
here
this
evening,
as
well
as
superlative
But.
Ultimately,
superlative
is
going
to
need
direction
from
us
as
to
which
direction
we
would
like
to
go
and
with
the
opening
of
the
amphitheater.
So
shortly
on
the
horizon,
we
do
need
to
give
that
direction
to
them
one
way
or
the
other.
A
M
Q
The
my
understanding
from
superlative
is
that
most
sponsors
are
approaching
this
in
a
binary
way,
either
it's
a
name
that
they
are
comfortable
with
incorporating
or
they
are
not,
and
so,
if
a
sponsor
who's
comfortable
incorporating
it
wouldn't
be
a
problem
at
all
for
them
they
may
like
it.
It
may
be
a
complimentary
name
to
the
sponsor.
Q
Conversely,
if
it's
a
name
that
would
not
be
complementary
to
the
sponsor
or
if
the
sponsor
feels
that
it
would
detract
from
their
own
attention
as
a
sponsor,
then
the
sponsors
would
not
be
interested
in
partnering
with
us
if
that
name
has
to
be
associated
with
it.
So
it's
really
a
very
individualized
decision
based
on
the
sponsor.
Z
Well,
when
I
first
heard
the
name,
the
sound
I
thought
it
was
a
great
name,
I
mean
it
incorporates
the
music
venue
with
where,
if
the
placement
is
which
is
on
our
Clearwater
Bay-
and
you
know
that
could
be
I-
think
the
sound
is
a
very
complimentary
name
for
our
Amphitheater
and
I
would
be
real
comfortable
with
just
saying
we're
going
to
keep
the
sound
and
you
I
mean
whoever
superlative
gets,
would
name
over
the
top
of
that
kind
of
like
what
they
do
did
with
the
capitol
theaters
that
you
know,
Bill
Heimer,
Capitol
Theater
would
be
something
similar
to
you
know
the
sound,
and
it
designates
that
music
venue
from
the
rest
of
the
park,
which
is
Coachman,
Park,
I
kind
of
like
keeping
it.
A
You
know
Contracting
with
that
naming
rights
I'm
not
comfortable
with,
and
so
you
know
if,
if
I
think,
superlative
should
go
out
and
Market
the
name
for
that
Amphitheater
to
maximize
our
return
on
on
money
because
isn't
the
name
of
it?
Doesn't
it
normally
stay
for
20
years
or
something
it's
not
short
term?
It.
A
And
we
have
a
1.8
million
dollar
Bond
payment,
we're
starting
this
year
for
a
30
million
dollar
Bonds
on
the
park.
We've
got
bills
to
pay
related
to
that
Park
and
I.
Don't
want
to
hamstring
the
money
that
will
be
coming
in
from
naming
rights,
and
so
I
would
propose
that
superlative
can
go
out
and
Market
our
Amphitheater
name
to
its
maximum
amount.
And
then
you
know
if
Ruth,
Eckerd,
Hall
or
someone
else
wants
to
negotiate
and
try
to
have
the
sound
as
part
of
it.
C
C
So
I
was
a
little
surprised
that
you
know,
none
of
us
were
invited
to
the
naming
ceremony
or
cleared
in
on
that
at
all.
Apparently,
the
former
mayor
was
aware
of
it,
but
that
never
reached
us
and
too
many
things
like
that
happened
I'm
concerned.
You
know
if
this
was
Puget
Sound
and
it
was
called
The
Sound
I'd
go
wow,
that's
a
great
name,
I'm,
not
sure
that
here
it's
a
great
name,
especially
if
we,
if
we're
you,
know
going
out
to
sell
it
to
Budweiser.
C
What's
the
Budweiser
sound,
was
it
a
Belch
I
mean
that's
the
type
of
joke
or,
or
you
know,
the
type
of
thing
you're
going
to
run
across
with
many
many
many
potential
sponsors
and
frankly,
I
am
a
little
concerned.
You
know
when
there's
going
to
be
some
complaints
about
volume
that
there
are
people
who
are
going
to
start
calling
it
The,
Noise
I,
think
it
makes
it
a
little
too
easy
to
do
that.
C
So
I'm
not
sure
that
I'm
I'm
sold
on
the
sound
I
would
like
to
see
what
superlative
can
do.
A
Well,
I
would
say
it's
not
it's
not
a
discussion
about
the
name,
the
sound
it's
a
discussion
about
the
contract
and
procedure
and
and
process
and
maximizing
Revenue
I
mean
I.
Think
the
sound
is
a
great
name,
but
it's
it's
about.
You
know
who
has
the
ability
to
go
out
and
Market
the
name
of
that
Amphitheater
or
the
sponsorship
of
the
amphitheater
and
maximize
our
Revenue?
That's
what
we
contracted
with
superlative
to
do.
Z
And
I
think
what
the
City
attorney
said.
You've
got
to
kind
of
take
that
the
sound
is
a
pretty
neutral
name.
It's
not
like
it.
Z
As
the
name
is
the
you
know,
the
name
changes
you
still
have
the
name
of
the
amphitheater
still
there
but
I,
really
don't
I,
really
don't
think
and
I'm,
not
an
expert,
so
I
I,
don't
know.
I
haven't
seen
anything
from
superlative
saying
if
you
name
it
the
sound
of
name.
You
know
you're
going
to
get
50
Less
on
it.
You
know
I
think
it
all
depends
on
who
they
get
and
I
wouldn't
think
I.
Think
that's
a
pretty
neutral
name!
That's
not
going
to
offend
anybody!
That's
going
to
put
their
name
on
it.
So.
A
Z
Q
Q
So
we
may
say
it's
a
hundred
percent
lost
from
that
sponsor,
but
the
other
way
to
look
at
it
is
that
there
may
be
another
sponsor
who's
just
as
good,
who
is
perfectly
happy
with
that
name
and
is
perfectly
willing
to
accept
it.
So
there
may
be
no
loss
to
us
at
all,
so
it
is
unfortunately
very
difficult
to
quantify.
All
I
can
say
with
certainty
is
that
superlative's
preference
is
not
to
be
restricted
in
that
way.
Q
That
said,
you
know,
Ruth
Ecker
has
announced
the
name
of
the
sound
and
I
think
it
got
overall,
pretty
positive
media
attention.
Out
of
that,
so
I
understand
why
they
would
want
to
continue
that.
You
know
that
name
as
well.
So
ultimately,
as
I
said,
superlative
will
take
direction
from
us
one
way
or
the
other,
but
my
preference
would
be
for
Council
to
coalesce
around
this
one
way
or
the
other.
Q
Q
Traces
back
to
some
of
those
earlier
decisions
that
were
made
to
bifurcate
the
functions
between
the
venue
operator
on
one
hand,
whether
that
was
Ruth
Ecker,
whether
that
had
been
ovg
but
to
bifurcate
that
function
from
The,
Brokerage
I
think
was
the
Genesis
of
how
we
have
ended
up
at
this
decision.
Point
I,
don't
think
it's
a
you
know
bad
thing
either
way.
I
think
we're
going
to
do
really
well,
I
think
the
amp
theater
is
going
to
be
very
successful
either
way,
but
ultimately,
with
the
opening
being
so
close
on
the
horizon.
M
You
know
there's
what
should
have
happened
which
didn't
and
then
what
did
happen
and
I
can't
quantify
how
much
we
might
get
if
we
take
the
word
sound
out
of
it,
but
I
don't
want
to
also
ignore
the
negative
impact
to
all
of
a
sudden
switching
the
name
again,
we've
been
having
positive
feedback
and
positive
media
attention
at
a
time
where
we've
had
a
lot
of
negative
and
I.
Just
don't
want
to
add
to
that.
M
Like
I
said,
there's
many
missteps
or
many
miscommunications
that
happened,
but
we
are
where
we
are
right
now.
So
that's
the
question:
are
we
going
to
get
so
much
more
by
removing
the
name
and
what
is
it
going
to
cost
to
do
this
big
schedule?
We
were
the
sound,
but
we're
not
the
sound
anymore,
and
so
that's
the
problem.
I'm
having
quantifying
each
one
I
wish
I
could
get
some
numbers
to
make
a
decision
so
much
easier.
Q
M
To
me,
Aaron
just
replaces
the
word
Amphitheater.
So
let's
say
it's
John
Doe
is
the
John
Doe
sound
versus
the
John
Doe
Amphitheater,
and
so
that
the
sound
remains
with
the
structure,
regardless
of
who's
sponsoring
it
which
minimizes
confusion,
and
it's
happened
with
other
stadiums
and
another
musical
venues.
Z
So
here's
here's
what
it
boils
down
with
me
when
I
first
heard
it
I
liked
it,
and
this
is
our
Amphitheater.
This
is
clear
waters
Amphitheater
and
I,
like
that.
It's
named
something
it's
okay
to
have
a
sponsor's
name
over
it,
but
you
know
it's
going
to
be
known
as
if
we
do
keep
that
name.
It'll
be
known,
I'll
tell
you
throughout
flora,
and
probably
the
region
is
this.
The
sound
will
is
a
great
name
for
it,
and
and
that'll
be
a
name
that
stays
with
it.
Z
I
mean
it's:
it
belongs
to
the
city,
it
belongs
to
our
our
residents,
so
I
look
at
it
that
way
that
it
goes
deeper
than
just
maybe
we
maybe
we
don't
lose
money
with
having
somebody,
or
maybe
we
lose
some
money.
But
to
me
it's
it's
I,
like
the
name
and
I,
think
it's
worth
it
having
something
that
we
built
for
the
city.
A
A
I
wish
they
could
go
out
and
insure
us
guarantee
us
that
they
would
get
the
maximum
price
a
return
for
us
on
those
naming
rights
and
the
truth
is
we'll,
never
know
if
we,
if
we
have
the
stipulation
that
the
sound
stays
I
think
there
are
some
positives
with
having
the
sound.
You
know
being
consistent
if
we
have
different
sponsors
every
20
years
or
25
years,
but
I
just
don't
I'm,
you
know
uncomfortable
with
the
way
it
happened,
for
whatever
reasons
it
happened,.
A
Q
And
if
I'm
hearing
the
council
correctly
and
it's
not
like
I
said
it's
we're
going
to
be
successful,
you
know
either
way
so
I
don't
want
the
council
to
feel
like
this
is
going
to
jeopardize
the
success
of
the
venue
or
anything
like
that.
But
it
is
something
that
you
know
they
need
direction
on.
So
if
I'm
hearing
correctly
it
sounds
like
councilmember
Albritton
would
be
supportive
of
keeping
the
name
of
the
sound
and
giving
that
direction
to
superlative.
It
sounds
like
council,
member
to
Shada
has
the
same
view.
Q
This
point
it's
just
Direction,
it
does
not
appear
to
be
something
that
is
needing
a
vote.
You
know,
if
it,
if
it
had,
you
know
we
would
have
needed
to
potentially
open
that
up.
But
at
this
point,
if
that's
the
direction
of
council,
they
will
let
them
know
I'm,
sorry
to
have
to
be
the
one
to
present
a
you
know,
challenging
issue,
but
I
think
any
new.
Q
You
know
any
new
venue
that
you
open
is
probably
going
to
have
issues
that
go
along
with
this,
so
it's
just
growing
pains
as
part
of
the
city
and
I'm
just
glad
we're
we're
getting
through
it.
Yeah.
A
C
C
C
You
know
how
about
has
developed
that
that
theory
of
shore
stories
when
he
was
running
the
sea
org
on
a
ship
out
at
Sea
and
they
pulled
into
various
ports
and
would
get
in
trouble
because
they
would
pretend
to
be
a
business
management
corporation
instead
of
just
saying,
hi,
we're
Scientology
and
we're
just
talking
here
for
a
while
in
Madera,
people
were
so
suspicious
of
them
because
of
their
short
story
that
they
started,
throwing
rocks
and
bottles
at
the
ship,
and
there
was
a
Hubbard's
car
was
parked
on
the
dock
and
a
motorcycle.
C
They
pushed
those
things
into
the
into
the
ocean
and
that's
what
happens
when
you,
you
know
use
deception,
I,
I,
don't
think.
That's
the
way
to
become
a
partner.
I've
said
that
if
Scientology
has
got
a
great
deal,
I
I
would
go
for
it
and
I
I
stick
with
that
and
I'm
sure
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
a
land
swap
at
some
point.
My
my
advice,
which
is
I'm
serious
about,
is:
if
miscavige
wants
the
CMA
property
that
caused
him
to
buy
up
everything
downtown
to
use
as
Leverage.
C
We
put
that
in
the
trust,
and
we
tell
Miss
cabbage
okay
go
ahead
and
do
what
you
need
to
do
to
develop
your
properties
and
then
after
you've
done
that
we'll
give
you
the
CMA
property
or
we'll
sell
it
to
you.
I
think.
That's
the
way
to
go
and
not
not
fall
to
their
their
chicanery,
and
that's
it.
For
me.
M
I
usually
use
this
closing
comment
section
to
feature
individuals,
organizations
that
have
a
positive
impact
on
Clearwater
today,
I'm
going
to
shake
things
up,
I
want
to
shine
the
spotlight
on
Clearwater
itself,
and
so,
although
I
was
not
born
in
Clearwater,
I
did
choose
this
city
to
raise
my
family
and
I
did
so
because
of
its
natural
beauty.
It's
warmth,
it's
people
and
its
potential
I
realize
emotions
have
been
running
high
and
it
provides
the
perfect
environment
for
concern.
M
M
Z
Z
You
know,
we've
been,
the
Press
is
really
taken.
We've
taken
a
beating
with
what's
in
the
in
the
Press,
since
our
last
one
mayor
just
walked
out
saying
we
were
fiscally
irresponsible.
Well,
you
saw
tonight
we're
doing
a
pretty
good
job
up
here
and
this
90
million
dollar
City
Hall
I
just
want
to
set
the
story
straight.
That
was
in
a
strategic
plan
for
10
years
that
the
figure
came
out
from
staff.
We
hadn't
even
had
a
chance
to
talk
about
that.
Z
Yet
I
want
to
make
that
public,
because
in
newspapers
don't
really
seemed
to
put
it
out
there.
The
way
it
really
should
should
be
put
out
there
we're
going
to
have
discussions
right
here
on
the
diocese
about
City
Hall.
By
the
way,
I
am
for
City
Hall
I've
been
on
the
record
for
that.
For
the
whole
time
I've
been
sitting
up
here,
we're
going
to
have
a
city
New
City
Hall
won't
be
a
90
million
dollar
one,
probably,
but
we're
going
to
have
one
and
we're
on
our
way
to
do
it.
Z
We're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
discussion
on
it.
We're
gonna
all
sit
down
and
figure
out
what
what
size
that
City
Hall
needs
to
be
and
and
we're
going
to
move
forward
on
it,
but
everybody's
going
to
have
a
chance
to
to
chime
in
on
it.
We're
gonna
have
public
discussions
on
it
and
we're
going
to
move
in
a
responsible
way,
so
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there.
Thank.
A
You
well
thank
you,
I'll
just
keep
it
short
as
well.
I
just
wanted
to
say
how
proud
I
was
for
the
number
of
people
that
showed
up
today
to
talk
about
things
that
were
important
to
them
and
especially
Rudy,
who
talked
about
five
different
items,
but
you
know
people
really
care
about
the
quality
of
life
and
safety.
Drew
Street
is
a
big
deal
and
and
I
appreciate
the
the
stories,
the
experiences,
the
data,
the
stats,
the
concern,
and
it
all
is
valid.
A
It
needs
to
be
weighed
and
I
think
we
we
gave
it
serious
consideration
and
thought
and
I
appreciate
that.
I
would
also
say
that
I,
you
know
the
sugar
Sands
Festival
is
starting
this
weekend.
A
The
ferris
wheel
is
up
at
Pier
60,
it
looks
fantastic,
the
beach
is
teeming
with
people
and
the
weather
looks
great.
So
please
come
visit,
Clearwater,
it's
a
great
place
to
both
live
and
visit
and
wish
you
all
a
great
weekend.
Safe,
travels
types,
and
the
meeting
is
adjourned.