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A
Well,
good
evening,
everybody,
my
name
is
Al
Rochelle,
so
glad
you
could
join
us
tonight
for
two
debates:
spaced
over
two
nights.
We
are
here
right
now
in
the
Clearwater
City
Commission,
which
is
in
the
library
right
now
and
we're
so
glad
you're
joining
us.
The
election
coming
up
on
March
17th
and
we
hope
by
watching
this
program,
you'll
be
better
informed
about
which
candidates
you
would
like
to
vote
for.
First
for
mayor
of
Clearwater,
which,
by
the
way
is
district
number
one.
A
That
mayor
has
the
same
voting
power
as
all
the
other
commissioners
and
then
the
second
to
be
debate
will
be
with
all
of
the
candidates
for
City
Council
seats.
Two
and
three
now
there's
a
lot
of
people
seeking
these
offices.
So
my
job
is
to
keep
the
programs
moving
and
ask
the
kind
of
questions
that
you
would
like
to
ask.
Not
necessarily
me,
but
you
as
the
Clearwater
voters.
Now
the
rules
for
both
debates
are
the
same.
A
We'll
begin
with
each
of
the
candidates
explaining
why
they're
running
for
their
respective
offices
we'll
call
that
the
opening
statement
that'll
be
done
in
alphabetical
order
and
then
just
to
be
fair,
we
will
switch
it
around
at
the
end
and
go
in
reverse
order.
Now
they
order
that
the
candidates
will
be
asking
questions.
We
had
to
do
some
math
and
kind
of
shift
it
around.
So
I
will
call
your
name
before
you
need
to
respond
to
any
of
these
questions.
A
We're
sticking
to
a
one
minute
time
limit
on
the
answers:
the
lights
right
here:
the
yellow
will
beef.
When
you
have
15
seconds,
the
red
will
mean
you
have
out
you're
out
of
time,
there's
a
buzzer
that
goes
off
we're
trying
to
avoid
that
today,
if
possible.
But
if
you
run
over
I'll,
just
gently
nod
you
and
move
you
on
and
then
again
wrap
up
your
questions
as
quickly
as
possible.
You
don't
have
to
use
the
whole
minute
if
you
don't
want
to
an
audience.
Sorry
that
I
have
my
back
to
you.
A
You
are
going
to
be
quiet
observers
tonight,
no
clapping,
no
booing
no
sign
carrying
no
shrugging
of
the
soldiers
no
response
period.
If
not,
we
have
people
here
who
will
scorch
you
out
of
the
room.
Everybody
got
that
all
right
here
we
go.
Let's
start
off
with
our
opening
statements:
Elizabeth
sea
turtle,
Dreier
you're.
First,
I'm.
B
Elizabeth
Dreier
pollution
and
overdevelopment
are
killing
natural
florida
and
I
want
to
bring
natural
Florida
back.
Our
health
and
the
health
of
our
children
depend
on
it
in
Clearwater.
That
means
more
native
trees,
more
clean
energy,
more
ecotourism,
it
means
fewer
cars,
fewer
pests.
Unless
concrete.
What
are
my
people
priorities?
Affordable
housing?
B
So
people
who
work
here
can
live
here
too,
bringing
new
business
beyond
tourism
and
real
estate,
making
sure
trash
and
parks
and
streets
are
taken
care
of
in
every
neighborhood
and
treating
your
money
like
I
treat
my
own
I'm
a
lawyer,
a
mother,
a
volunteer
I've
been
endorsed,
endorsed
by
the
National
Association
National
Organization
for
Women,
and
the
Sierra
Club
I
want
to
bring
new
solutions,
and
new
leadership
and
I
ask
for
your
vote
on
March
17th,
Elizabeth
dryer.
Thank.
C
You
have
a
minute
good
evening,
L
thanks
for
doing
this
and
all
of
you
in
attendance
here
tonight
my
name's
Frankie
bird,
and
we
call
this
a
forum.
But
what
it
really
is
is
a
job
interview,
you're
interviewing,
for
who
you
want
to
lead
this
city
over
the
next
four
years
and
I.
Think
when
you
do
that,
you
have
to
look
first
of
all:
a
qualifications
I
have
a
degree
in
economics
and
in
finance
and
a
master's
in
business
administration.
C
I.
Think
the
next
thing
you
look
for
whenever
you're
looking
for
someone
to
work
for
you
is
you
want
to
see
their
experience.
I
have
been
married,
this
city
for
two
terms
and
on
the
city
council
for
three
I
led
the
city
through
the
Great
Recession,
which
was
probably
one
of
the
most
difficult
times.
All
of
us
in
this
room
have
ever
lived
through,
but
we
made
it
through
and
we
still
thrived,
I
think.
C
D
You
good
evening
and
happy
birthday
to
my
wife,
Becky
who's
sitting
in
the
front
row.
I
totally
agree.
This
is
a
job
interview,
you're,
selecting
a
servant
leader
for
your
council
and
your
city
of
the
four
of
us.
My
background
and
as
performance
best
meets
your
job
requirements.
A
servant
leader
must
be
inclusive
of
all
parts
of
the
city
and
must
be
honest
and
be
faithful
to
promises
made
to
you
since
I
left.
The
City
Council
has
changed
promises
on
Imagine,
clear
water.
D
E
Hi,
my
name
is
Morton
Myers
and
I'm
born
and
raised
here
in
Clearwater,
my
own
two
small
businesses
and
I'm
a
proud
father
of
four,
my
wife's.
A
teacher
include
oh
hi
and
I'm
here-
to
bring
preservation
to
save
some
of
Clearwater's
history
I'm
also
here
to
make
Clearwater
greener
as
an
Eagle
Scout.
We
learned
a
lot
about
our
environment
and
we
learned
to
take
care
of
it
and
we
can
do
better
I'd
like
to
grow
small
businesses
and
help
small
business
startup
and
thrive.
E
I'd
also
like
to
look
at
the
imagine,
claw
order,
plan
and
I
think
it
lost,
focus
and
I
think
we
need
to
reimagine
the
plan.
I
think
it's
something
that
really
needs
to
be
looked
at
and
better
representation
I
think
we
could
do
more
to
represent
more
neighborhoods,
more
communities
and
more
small
businesses
in
Clearwater
I.
Think
it's
time
for
a
change
and
I.
Think
Clearwater
is
ready
for
something
new.
Thank.
A
You
all
right
candidates.
Thank
you.
So
much
we're
gonna
jump
right
to
one
of
the
questions
that
I'd
like
to
ask
you've
mentioned
it
already.
Do
you
think
the
city's
64
million
dollar?
Imagine
Clearwater
project
is
right
on
target
or
are
there
things
in
the
plan
that
you
would
like
to
see
change
mr.
Johnson
you're
first
on
this.
D
Thank
you,
as
I
said
in
my
opening
statement,
there
are
plans
that
were
presented
to
the
citizens
and
they
voted.
Seventy
five
point:
seven
six
percent
in
favor
of
that.
Since
that
time
the
council
has
made
changes
to
it,
but
the
changes
were
not
made
in
a
collaborative
manner
with
the
rest
of
the
community.
When
that
was
originally
done,
there
was
a
stakeholders
committee.
The
stakeholders
committee
has
been
ignored
in
this
process.
D
E
There's
a
lot
of
things:
I
would
change
I,
look
at
the
imagine
clear
order,
plan
and
I
think
it
lost
touch
with
what
the
people
voted
for.
It
was
meant
to
be
a
park
for
our
families
and
to
tie
together
the
waterfront.
Now
we're
looking
at
basically
building
what
looks
like
a
theme
park
on
paper.
I.
Think
the
big
venue
having
the
amphitheater
is
totally
out
of
touch
with
what
we
wanted.
We
wanted
a
new
band
shell
and
I
think
looking
at
that.
E
We
need
to
stop
listening
to
what
some
of
the
big
interest
groups
in
the
excuse
me,
the
big
interest
groups
and
the
nonprofit's
are
looking
for.
We
need
to
look
at
what
the
community
wants.
We
don't
want
to
sell
the
three
properties
down
here
to
help
pay
for
it
either
we're
looking
at
selling
the
cma
property,
the
Harborview
lot
and
city
hall
to
fund
this,
and
I
think
that's
a
bad
idea.
Okay,
mr.
C
Think
there's
good
and
bad
in
the
plan.
I
think
the
orientation
of
the
venue
for
music
should
be
in
the
North
End
of
the
park.
That's
the
best
place
for
it.
I
do
not
believe
in
the
six
and
a
half
million
dollar
price
tag
being
put
into
the
library
and
covering
the
roof
area
here.
I,
don't
think
that
the
city
ought
to
be
getting
into
a
private
venue
for
conventions
and
weddings
and
things
I
think
that
ought
to
be
left
to
our
private
sector.
C
I
think
that
the
whole
plan
needs
to
go
through
the
design
stage,
and
then
you
need
to
value
engineer
the
entire
plan.
It
is
going
to
come
back
to
the
citizens
because,
ultimately,
there's
going
to
have
to
be
money
raised
from
selling
some
parcels.
I
do
not
believe
in
ever
selling
the
Harborview
side.
I
think
that's
something
that
the
city
ought
to
always
hold
on
to
the
aquarium
site
and
the
city
hall
site
I
think
are
areas
that
you
want
to
see.
Development
of
some
sort
and
I
would
partner
with
private
developers
on
that.
Okay.
B
Served
on
the
imagine,
Clearwater
stakeholders,
committee
I
supported
the
plan
for
an
expanded,
Park
ringed
with
retail
and
residents
and
restaurants
to
bring
people
downtown
I,
don't
support
the
changes
made
after
the
citizen
referendum
like
the
4,000
seed
amphitheater,
like
the
library
renovations,
which
I
don't
believe,
are
necessary,
like
the
pagoda
and
the
sound
and
the
light
show,
and
the
gas-fired
lights
and
waterfalls
that
have
driven
the
price
up
significantly
and
I.
Don't
think,
will
work
together,
I,
don't
think
they'll
be
attractive
and
I
think
they're
just
way
too
expensive.
B
A
Right,
let's
move
on
to
another
question:
a
City
Commission
study
of
the
downtown
area
concluded
one
of
the
biggest
obstacles
to
Clearwater
redevelopment
is
housing.
There
aren't
enough
downtown
units
period,
not
enough
affordable
housing
for
workers
and
without
permanent
residents.
The
downtown
cannot
thrive
like
Tampa
or
st.
Petersburg
are
thriving.
What's
your
solution,
mr.
Mars,
we
start
with
you
I
think.
E
We
need
a
drawl
to
get
more
people
here.
We
worry
about
housing
right
now,
an
affordable
housing,
but
there's
not
something.
That's
drawing
our
families
here
every
week,
I
think
the
imagine
Clearwater
project
was
the
big
hope
to
bring
more
people
here.
I
think
yes,
affordable
housing
is
a
big
issue,
there's
other
places
in
Clearwater.
E
We
could
also
look
at
affordable
housing
but
I
think
getting
families
down
here
every
week
for
something
like
a
community
center
or
something
to
draw
my
family
down
here
once
a
week
is
a
better
idea
to
focus
on
I
think
when
we
get
the
people
back
down
here,
then
we
can
look
at
how
we're
going
to
address
getting
people
to
live
back
down
here.
Okay,.
B
We
definitely
need
more
affordable
housing.
There
are
techniques
used
in
other
cities
that
have
been
successful
like
affordable
housing,
trust
funds,
either
developer
financed
spare
finance,
designating
portions
of
multi-unit
buildings,
designating
a
percentage
for
workforce
housing
has
been
successful
and
also
offering
tax
incentives
to
employers
who
assist
employees
with
housing
has
worked
so
I
think
those
three
should
be
investigated
and
tried
as
techniques.
Mr.
A
C
We
need
both
market
rate
housing
in
downtown
with
people
that
have
more
disposable
income
that
can
support
restaurants
and
retail,
but
the
whole
city
needs
more
workforce
housing.
One
of
the
ways
that
citizens
can
help
with
that
is
one
of
your
referendum.
Questions
on
your
seat
allows
the
city
to
utilize
some
of
the
properties
that
the
city
currently
owns
for
workforce
housing
and
there's
a
couple
sites
in
downtown
that
are
really
perfect
for
that.
C
The
old
clearwater
automotive
site
on
MLK,
which
was
originally
a
brownfield
site
that
we
purchased
it,
is
now
cleaned
up
and
could
be
used
for
residential,
and
then
we
also
bought
the
Econo
Inn
and
the
Royal
Palm
Hotel,
which
were
on
Cleveland
Street,
which
we
had
our
officers
visiting
almost
on
a
daily
basis
for
prostitution
and
drug
problems.
It
is
now
an
open
site
that
could
be
used
for
workforce
housing.
Ok,
mr.
Johnson.
A
D
You
I
go
back
to
the
Uli
report,
Urban
Land
Institute
report
that
was
done
in
2014,
and
they
made
several
recommendations
for
small
things
that
could
be
done
in
downtown.
Those
have
been
pretty
much
put
on
ice
until
they
get
the
imagine
Clearwater
going.
I
think
there
are
several
of
those
that
should
be
should
be
moved
forward
because
they
are
smaller
and
can
improve
the
amenities
in
downtown.
D
The
main
fire
station
has
been
disposed
of
or
there's
a
contract
on
it
for
affordable
housing,
which
is
great
I,
think
we
have
to
execute
things
better
in
downtown.
We
say
we're
going
to
do
something,
but
it
takes
forever
to
get
it
done.
That's
what
I
can
municipal
excellence
and
I
think
that
needs
to
be
a
priority
of
the
the
next
council
all.
A
Right
move
on
to
another
couple
of
questions.
The
whole
topic
of
Scientology
has
created
a
lot
of
controversy
and,
frankly,
some
pretty
heated
arguments
at
previous
debates
which,
on
social
media
of
this
plane,
look
ugly.
We
are
not
here
to
debate
the
merits
or
pitfalls
of
Scientology,
but
we
are
going
to
talk
about
city
policy
as
it
relates
to
the
reality
of
Scientology.
First,
a
lot
of
folks
has
said
the
reason
they
don't
come.
Downtown
or
buy
property
downtown
is
the
presence
of
Scientology.
B
Think
the
imagine
Clearwater
plan,
which
proposes
to
lease
the
perimeter
of
the
park
to
provide
additional
retail
and
restaurant
and
residence
space
that
would
bring
more
people
down,
would
draw
a
greater
diversity
of
people,
and
that
would
help
improve
the
atmosphere
of
downtown
and
make
people
feel
more
comfortable.
I
would
also
use
vacancy
fees
on
vacant,
storefronts
of
which
there
are
many
in
downtown
to
encourage
owners
of
the
buildings
to
fill
them
up
with
businesses
that
draw
a
variety
of
residents.
C
I
think,
first
of
all,
we
have
some
businesses
that
are
doing
well.
Clear
sky
is
doing
great
in
downtown.
The
Capitol
Theater
is
the
number
two
theater
of
its
size
in
the
United
States.
So
we
have
seen
some
success.
I
would
encourage
citizens
to
come
downtown
Scientology
is
not
contagious,
you're
not
going
to
catch
it
by
coming
downtown,
and
you
have
to
support
some
of
these
businesses
and
the
people
that
have
made
an
investment.
When
other
businesses
see
success
in
downtown,
they
will
follow.
That's
what
happened
in
saint-petersburg.
C
You
know
they
call
it
the
twenty
nine
twenty
year
overnight
miracle.
It
took
a
very
long
time
for
Saint
Pete
to
turn
around,
but
once
it
started
to
get
the
positive
momentum,
then
everything
started
to
work.
I
think
we
have
to
keep
everybody
in
the
city
accountable
and
try
to
work
to
make
downtown
a
better
place.
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
later.
I'm
sure
we're
gonna
have
some
more
questions
along
these
lines.
Okay,.
D
You
well
I've,
been
walking
neighborhoods
and
quite
frequently.
The
question
comes
up
about
Scientology
and
the
relationship
between
the
city
and
and
that
organization,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
talked
about
is,
of
course
we
will
enforce
regulations
equally
against
everybody,
but
we
also
should
maintain
some
communication
with
every
organization
in
the
city
and
just
for
any
organization.
If
there's
an
area
that
we
can
agree
on,
then
we
move
forward
on
that.
Otherwise
we
part
company
and
move
on
to
the
next
thing.
So
communication
is
important
as
far
as
downtown
is
concerned.
D
E
Right,
I'm,
the
only
candidate
that
has
family
on
both
sides
of
this
debate.
My
father
and
my
brothers
are
members
of
the
church.
I'm,
not
a
member
of
the
church.
I'm,
not
a
Scientologist,
but
I
can
clearly
understand
the
issue
down
here,
because
I've
grown
up
around
it.
I
think
opening
doors
transparency
getting
out
and
talking,
but
if
we
don't
get
families
back
down
here
with
projects
like
community
centers
or
parades
the
things
that
used
to
get
families
back
down
here,
there's
not
much
to
talk
about.
E
A
C
Believe
we
need
to
do
an
inventory
of
all
the
properties
in
downtown
and
talk
to
the
property
owners
and
find
out
what
their
intentions
are
with
the
properties
downtown
is
in
a
CRA
which
is
a
Community
Redevelopment
area.
We
do
have
special
tools
in
our
toolbox
to
make
downtown
work.
It
has
been
a
very
slow
process.
I
think
people
often
hope
that
there's
a
silver
bullet
there
is
not.
C
If
there
was,
we
would
have
fired
it
by
now,
there's
been
streetscaping,
that's
been
done,
the
marina,
the
Capitol
Theatre,
those
things
have
helped,
but
we
need
to
continue
to
progress
and,
as
I
said,
we
need
to
get
people
to
get
over
the
stigma
that
they
believe
exists
and
start
to
come
back
to
downtown
and
support
the
businesses
that
are
here.
It
will
create
positive
momentum.
D
A
A
A
Okay
and
let's
go
in
the
same
order
again,
another
question
about
that.
A
lot
of
cities
have
health
and
Largo
is
one
of
them
that
if
you
somehow
slow
down
traffic,
as
was
done
on
Cleveland
Avenue,
that
more
people
would
stop.
But
in
essence,
in
some
cases
all
it
does
is
reduced
parking
and
making
it
more
difficult
for
residents
to
come
down
to
the
downtown
area.
A
B
The
complete
Street
plans
that
are
underway
on
Fort
Harrison
and
drew
are
going
to
help
with
traffic
coming
in
and
out
of
the
city.
I
think
making
them
safer
and
more
open
to
pedestrians
and
bikes
and
other
forms
of
transportation
will
be
a
benefit
to
the
city.
Overall
I
think
we
should
be
increasing
the
mass
transit
options
as
well
to
get
people
in
and
out
of
the
city
more
smoothly.
B
Traffic
calming
is
a
funny
thing.
People
wanted
and
then
once
it
comes
in
they
decide.
Maybe
it
wasn't
a
good
idea,
so
I
think
the
project
on
Cleveland
Street.
What
was
overall
a
beneficial
one.
It
increases
the
opportunity
for
people
to
drive
slowly
and
see
what's
there
and
it
helps
with
pedestrian
traffic
as
well.
So
that
would
be
my
approach.
Mr.
D
You
well,
you
learned,
alluded
to
the
alignment
of
the
bridge.
I,
remember
back
in
2001
when
I
was
first
running
for
office,
and
was
it
got
the
question
about
well,
if
we
put
the
alignment
of
the
like
on
Court
Street
and
take
it
off
of
Cleveland
Street.
Isn't
that
going
to
be
disastrous
and
my
cancer
at
the
time
was
well?
D
All
I
have
to
do,
is
look
up
at
Dunedin
and
find
that
when
they
took
the
traffic
off
of
Main
Street
and
moved
it
over
to
Skinner
the
business
owners,
there
got
serious
about
working
together
and
created
a
really
nice
downtown.
So
I
think
that
that
particular
aspect
can
be
accomplished
if
there's
cooperation
and
collaboration
among
the
bucks
of
the
property
owners
and
the
business
owners
in
downtown
one
of
the
things
that
was
done
when
the
Cleveland
Street
project
was
originally
implemented.
D
E
Myers,
as
far
as
bridge
alignment,
anyone
that's
lived
here.
Long
enough
in
Clearwater
knows
that
when
we
move
that
bridge,
we
successfully
killed
downtown.
So
I'd
like
to
see
some
alternate
routes.
Put
back
in
I
know
we
choked
off
Cleveland
Street,
we
put
a
bunch
of
medians
down
it
made
it,
so
we
couldn't
even
have
parades
on
it.
E
I'd
like
to
see
some
of
these
old
roads
open
back
up
and
get
the
traffic
flowing
back
through
downtown
when
I
first
got
into
this
I
said
man
I
would
never
have
the
power
if
I
made
mayor
to
be
able
to
move
the
bridge
back,
but
maybe
put
an
on-ramp
or
an
alternate
route
back
down,
drew
Street
or
back
down
Cleveland
and
open
these
back
up
and
get
small
businesses
back
on
these
small
roads
and
get
families
back
down
there.
A
C
Alignment
of
the
bridge
is,
is
not
gonna,
be
changing.
That's
an
FDOT
Road.
If
you
recall,
I
was
I'm
a
member
of
Calvary
Baptist
for
41
years
our
church
used
to
sit
on
the
corner
of
Cleveland
and
Osceola.
It
was
a
parking
lot
on
Sundays.
As
people
went
across
the
bridge,
we
have
to
draw
a
bridge
which
broke
down
fairly
frequently
the
city
couldn't
even
get
parts
for
it.
It
was
sold.
The
businesses
were
not
thriving,
then
because
the
cars
weren't
stopping
to
go
to
downtown
businesses.
C
They
were
slowly
moving
toward
the
beach,
so
changing
that
route
is
never
gonna
happen
as
far
as
streetscape
and
traffic
calming
in
neighborhoods.
The
reason
the
traffic
calming
is
used
is
to
try
to
push
traffic
from
cutting
through
neighborhoods
and
jeopardizing
the
safety
of
children
and
pets,
and
our
police
officers
can't
be
in
those
neighborhoods
constantly
dealing
with
traffic.
They
want
to
be
dealing
with
crime.
Here's.
A
Another
question-
and
this
is
a
I-
got
this
one
in
Publix
I
get
most
of
my
material
and
Publix
by
the
way
third
Isle
near
the
yogurt
I.
Don't
know
why
they
always
stopped
me
there,
but
they
do.
Is
it
fair
that
residents
outside
the
immediate
downtown
have
to
pay
higher
taxes
because
properties
within
the
city,
their
perception,
get
tax
breaks
and
therefore,
according
to
many
they're,
not
paying
their
fair
share?
Mr.
Johnson
well.
D
I
think
that
they
pay
the
same
taxes.
What
you're
probably
referring
to
is
the
Community
Redevelopment
Agency
right
and
the
fact
that
a
tax
increment
financing
is
used
in
within
that
district
I
know,
there's
a
similar
proposal
to
do
that
up
in
the
North
Greenwood
area
in
downtown
Clearwater.
That
has
not
been
an
outstanding
success
and
I.
Think
part
of
it
is
the
choice
of
where
that
spent.
D
The
idea
is
that,
if
it
increases,
then
the
activity
in
the
downtown
area
will
increase
or
within
the
CRA
will
increase,
and
it
will
benefit
the
entire
city,
so
it
should
be
working
better
than
it
is,
and
I
think
it
gets
back
to
implementing
municipal
excellence
and
making
sure
that
we
get
things
done
rather
than
taking
forever
to
get
anything
done.
Mr.
B
I
think
the
point
of
the
CRA
is
to
increase
investment
in
an
area
that
needs
it
and
for
that
reason,
I
think
it's
appropriate
that
the
value
of
the
increased
property
be
reinvested
in
downtown
I.
Think
that
would
work
to
the
benefit
of
all
residents
of
people
throughout
the
city
are
upset
that
our
downtown
isn't
more
vibrant
and
the
CRA
funds
would
work
towards
accomplishing
that.
C
So
the
millage
rate
for
downtown
and
everywhere
out
throughout
the
rest
of
the
city
is
the
same
just
so.
People
are
clear,
nobody's
paying
less
and
downtown
than
they
pay
on
the
beach.
The
difference
is
property
values
and
the
property
values
in
downtown
are
significantly
depressed
compared
to
the
beach
and
some
of
our
more
affluent
residential
areas.
C
So
that
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
it
is
important
for
downtown
to
be
turned
around,
because
if
that
occurs,
then
the
taxes
being
received
in
the
downtown
org
are
going
to
be
larger
and
help
offset
some
of
the
other
costs.
Businesses
actually
don't
use
a
lot
of
the
services
that
residents
to
use
residents,
want
parks
and
recreation
and
libraries.
They
want
safe,
neighborhoods
businesses,
don't
use
parks
and
libraries
and
recreation
centers.
That's
why
you
want
a
vibrant
business
community
because
they
help
offset
the
costs
for
our
residents.
Let.
A
Me
ask
you:
this
is
a
general
question
and
I've
been
here
since
1986
I've
been
around
for
quite
a
while
and
I
look
at
what's
happened
in
Dunedin
and
Safety
Harbor
and
some
of
these
other
communities
where
it
really
has
been
an
organic
process
in
that
it
kind
of,
as
we
talked
about
st.
Petersburg
happens
over
a
20-year
20-year
miracle
over
Knight.
A
Is
it
a
mistake
for
cities
that
don't
have
the
same
character,
ie
small
businesses,
small
streets,
not
as
much
traffic
to
try
to
copy
what
they
are
doing
when
in
an
area
like
Clearwater,
because
there's
so
much
more
traffic?
So
many
more
buildings
and
not
a
natural
street
enclosed
to
close
off
where
people
are
are
in
quotes,
forced
to
walk
the
streets?
Is
it
a
mistake
to
go,
buy
those
plans,
I'll
start
with
mr.
Myers.
E
No,
we
have
some
really
good
areas
to
look
at
I,
know
I'm,
looking
at
expanding
one
of
my
businesses
and
Safety
Harbor
and
Dunedin,
or
both
potential
locations,
but
the
order
doesn't
have
that
small-town
little
area,
but
we
do
there's
some
great
old
areas.
There's
drew
Street,
there's
North
Fort,
Harrison
North
in
the
boat
room
and
there's
areas
that
we
could
work
on
that
aren't
as
heavily
hit
with
traffic,
and
we
could
bring
more
traffic
into
those
areas.
E
If
you
look
at
North,
Fort
Harrison,
there's
a
lot
of
vacant,
lots
and
there'd
be
a
great
redevelopment
area
and
it
would
tie
right
into
heading
over
into
Dunedin.
So
I
think
that
is
something
to
address
and
it's
something
we
should
have
in
our
city
and
I.
Think
it's
something
we
could
focus
on
and
get
a
lot
of
new
businesses
and
startup
companies
in
there
and
maybe
keep
some
of
the
big
businesses
out
and
let
the
little
guys
have
a
chance
all
right.
Mr.
Eyre
I.
B
Think
encouraging
business
development
in
different
areas
of
the
city
is
a
smart
thing
and
what
mayors
of
other
cities
have
said
about
how
their
cities
took
off
has
had
to
do
with
the
feeling
that
you
get
being
there
a
way
to
encourage
a
good
feeling
would
be
to
change
the
codes
to
use
form
based
codes
that
encourage
development
that
gives
pedestrians
and
people
patronizing
businesses
the
feeling
that
they
want
to
be
there.
It's
it's
about
the
the
way
the
buildings
are
constructed
in
relation
to
the
streets.
A
C
Think
you
can
always
look
at
other
cities
of
it
as
examples,
but
you're
gonna
have
different
variables
in
each.
We
actually
have
three
downtown's
in
the
city
of
Clearwater.
We
have
downtown
Clearwater
Beach,
which
a
lot
of
the
beach
people
just
stay
in
that
area
that
live
in
Clearwater
Beach.
We
have
countryside
mall,
which
creates
a
downtown
for
the
countryside
area,
and
then
we
have
downtown
Clearwater.
So
it's
definitely
different
from
safety,
harbor
and
Dunedin.
C
But
what
you
will
see
in
Dunedin
is:
they
have
reached
a
critical
mass,
for
instance,
of
restaurants
and
some
funky
type
of
retail,
where
people
will
say
we're.
Gonna
go
to
downtown
Dunedin
tonight,
don't
know
where
we're
gonna
eat,
but
there's
enough
choice
that
we're
gonna
find
something
that
will
interest
us.
We
have
to
get
to
the
point
where
people
will
come
downtown
and
that
we
have
the
critical
mass
I'm
watching
the
lights
out.
I
promise
no
you're
good.
We've.
A
A
Made
it
up
so
don't
know
if
I
can.
Yes,
we
were
talking
about
looking
at
the
smaller
towns,
because
some
of
that
has
happened.
Organically
Dunedin
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
big
streets
in
that
area,
the
same
thing
with
safety
Harbor,
and
is
it
a
mistake
to
look
at
those
communities
and
think
that,
with
a
volume
of
traffic
that
we
have
here
and
the
businesses
that
we
have
here
that
we
can
create
something
that
would
occur
naturally,
like
they've
got
well.
D
I
think
one
of
the
advantages
that
they
have
is
not
so
much
that
they
do
have
less
traffic,
but
they
have
things
that
are
attractive
to
people
to
come
to
and
I
go
back
to
the
example
of
Dunedin
when
they
move
the
road
from
Main
Street
up
to
Skinner.
The
businesses
got
together
and
cooperated
big
time.
The
property
owners
and
Clearwater
have
been
looking
for
the
city
to
solve
their
problems
rather
than
working
on
that
themselves.
D
Hey
I'm
different
in
that
I
see
a
downtown
is
being
primarily
pedestrian.
I,
look
at
Dunedin
and
Safety.
Harbor
is
kind
of
pedestrian.
You
you
go
and
you
walk
around
and
so
part
of
it
is
just
X.
We
did
a
Street,
State
Street
sense
report
in
2009,
but
it
was
on
ice
until
it
didn't
even
get
implemented
until
2018.
We've
got
to
start
executing
things
faster.
Let's.
A
Talk
about
and
I'm
gonna
get
back
to
some
of
these
other
development
issues,
because
I
as
an
observer
from
the
outside
I
think
that
all
of
us
would
probably
agree
that
development
is
really
critical
for
clear
waters
to
survive
and,
what's
going
on
in
our
economy
right
now,
the
city
has
some
very
specific
language
on
when
the
city
can
sell
a
piece
of
property
that
they
own.
Should
the
city
be
allowed
to
sell
any
of
its
property
without
full
voter
approval.
Mr.
Meyers,
we'll
start
with
you.
E
Definitely
not
it's
our
property
as
voters,
it's
our
property
as
citizens
of
Clearwater,
and
we
should
have
a
say
and
what
the
city
allows
to
be
sold
off.
I
believe
that
a
lot
of
things
need
to
be
protected
in
this
city,
and
it
can
be
as
simple
as
a
piece
of
land
a
parking
lot,
a
park,
a
city
hall.
Those
are
things
that
we
should
have
a
saying.
I
know
we
elect
representatives,
but
it
really
should
be
something
that
we
have
a
say
in
mr.
air
I.
B
Don't
think
any
City
property
should
be
sold
without
voter
approval.
I
think
you
give
up
ownership
when
you
give
up
control
and
control
is
very
important
and
if
anything
I
think
we
should
be
acquiring
more
land
I
would
favor
and
impact
fee
on
new
development
to
finance
purchase
of
more
city
land
that
could
be
turned
back
to
its
natural
state
to
encourage
ecotourism
and
bring
in
that
billion
dollar.
Industry
I
think
that
would
be
a
boon
to
the
city.
Mr.
A
C
C
We
also
have
a
regulation
that
does
not
allow
open
space
recreation
property
be
sold
without
a
referendum,
but
there
are
two
items
that
this
City
Council
has
put
before:
citizens,
small
remainders
of
which
are
tiny,
unusable
parcels
that
currently
the
city
maintains
and
could
sell
to
adjacent
property
owners
and
then
also
parcels
that
are
less
than
five
acres
for
affordable
housing.
They
could
go
ahead
and
sell
those
for
market
or
less
than
market
rate.
We
have
a
representative
democracy.
Citizens
have
an
opportunity
to
talk
on
every
item.
C
A
D
You
I
think
it
depends
on
the
situation,
for
instance,
there's
some
property
that
we
can
possibly
acquire
because
it's
through
a
death,
the
property
is
available
to
annex
into
the
moccasin
Lake
Nature
Center.
That
should
be
acquired
and
expand
at
that
area.
But,
on
the
other
hand,
the
property
like
on
the
corner
of
Madison
and
tangerine
up
in
North
Greenwood.
It's
a
it's
a
remainder.
It
was
acquired
years
and
years
ago
for
right-of-way,
but
it
was
never
used
for
that.
D
It
has
been
declared
surplus
by
the
City
Council
and
is
part
of
a
transaction
to
Habitat
for
Humanity,
so
homes
can
be
built
on
it
and
it
can
be
used.
So
I
think
that
there
is
some
property
that
should
be
able
to
be
disposed
of
through
the
City
Council.
There's
another
property.
The
old
Auto
testing
facility
on
Range
Road,
which
the
fire
department
is
storing
stuff
in
it.
I'd
rather
see
that
use
for
a
business.
A
C
One
of
the
promises
that
I
made
in
the
first
90
days
is
first
to
find
a
search
firm
to
find
a
new
city
manager,
but,
secondly,
to
do
a
five-year
strategic
plan
and
the
beginning
of
the
five-year
strategic
plan
will
literally
be
going
out
and
having
public
meetings
throughout
all
of
the
city
to
determine
what
are
the
priorities
that
citizens
have.
We
have
limited
resources
unless
people
want
to
see
taxes
increase.
Nobody
wants
to
see
that
right.
C
So
we
need
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
spend
those
limited
resources
around
the
city.
We
have
regional
rec
centers.
We
have
five
libraries,
we
have
a
lot
of
parks.
We
need
to
determine
the
level
at
which
we
want
to
maintain
all
of
those
anything
you
build
understand,
it's
easy
to
build
it.
It's
the
operations
and
maintenance
that
will
eat
your
lunch
and
that's
something
that
we
just
need
to
be
cautious
with
our
dollars.
Mr.
Johnson.
D
Thank
you.
We
have
every
two
years
done
as
citizens
survey.
The
city
has
done
that
citizen
survey.
It
provides
feedback
for
what
people
want
and
the
proper.
The
problem
is
that
we
haven't
used
that
survey
to
identify
and
drill
down
more
into
what
they
need.
One
of
the
things
was
sidewalks.
Well,
it
doesn't
mean.
Does
it
mean
that
people
don't
have
sidewalks,
so
the
sidewalks
are
not
being
maintained?
D
We
clearly
want
neighborhood
safety
and
limited
traffic,
but
we
used
to
have
a
great
program
of
putting
in
more
advanced
traffic
calming
features,
but
then
we
ended
up
putting
in
speed
humps
and
it's
a
jarring
experience
and
I.
Think
some
of
the
neighborhoods
really
feel
that
they
got
shortchanged
in
that
process
and
we
need
to
go
back
and
invest
in
our
neighborhoods
so
that
they
are
attractive
to
particularly
young
families,
maybe
putting
in
some
of
the
playground
equipment
that
we
were.
Thank
you
mr.
Meyers.
E
E
There's
things
that
don't
make
sense
on
city
spending
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
refocusing
some
of
the
money,
the
city's
willing
to
spend
on
projects
like
downtown
and
focus
on
spending
them
equally
throughout
the
neighborhoods
to
cover
all
the
people
and
all
the
neighborhoods
and
all
the
areas
of
the
city.
It's
simple
things:
bathrooms
costs
money
to
maintain
them.
We
consent
spent
sixty
four
million
dollars
on
a
park.
We
can't
put
a
bathroom
in
Cliff
Steven
spark
where
I
grew
up.
I,
don't
think.
E
A
Go
back
to
another
topic,
that's
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
the
Pinellas
Trail
I'm,
one
of
those
unfortunate
people
I've
been
hit
four
times
on
my
bike.
I,
don't
know!
What's
wrong
with
me,
two
of
them
have
been
in
Clearwater.
You
mentioned
the
Pinellas
Trail.
What
can
be
done
to
make
it
more
attractive
than
that
little
jog
that
you
go
behind
the
streets
and
then
they
try
to
get
you
to
go
along
the
railroad
tracks
and
then
you're
in
a
part
of
Clearwater
before
you
can't
hear
you
near
the
water.
A
So
let
me
start
with
you,
mr.
mayor.
Is
there
anything
that
could
be
done
by
the
city
to
make
it
so
it's
more
attractive
and
safe,
because
most
of
us
bikers
I
hate
to
tell
you
this?
We
just
stay
on
Fort
Harrison
and
take
our
chances
where
the
road
kind
of
splits
to
the
north
of
out
of
town
and
that's
dangerous,
I
haven't.
B
Been
throughout
the
entirety
of
the
Pinellas
Trail,
a
lot
of
it
that
I've
been
on
is
very
unattractive.
It's
almost
industrial
I
understand
there
for
bikers.
That
might
be
just
something
that
they
can
ignore
because
they
want
the
recreation
to
me.
A
trail
means
trees
and
some
kind
of
use,
so
I
would
definitely
look
at
enhancing
a
trail
in
that
way.
B
But
the
problem,
when
you
put
a
trail
through
already
developed
areas,
is
you're
going
to
have
situations
where
traffic
is
threatening
the
people
on
the
trail
and
they're,
not
looking
out
for
people
on
the
trail,
because
they're
driving
on
a
street
and
all
of
a
sudden,
this
trail
comes
through.
So
that's
one
of
the
consequences
of
development
is
recreation.
Activities
are
adversely
impacted.
Mr.
C
Hibbert,
we
really
ought
to
look
at
some
of
the
zoning
along
the
trail
to
make
it
available
to
some
commercial
businesses
that
can
actually
give
places
for
people
to
stop
along
the
way.
We
do
have
a
little
bit
of
a
challenge
for
a
union
down
to
about.
You
know
Court,
Street
and
then
getting
across
court
and
chestnut
on
the
trail
is
very
difficult.
We
put
in
the
cities
put
in
new
lights.
C
Sadly,
a
lot
of
the
drivers
and
a
lot
of
the
tourists
don't
understand
that
that
means
by
state
law
they're
supposed
to
stop,
but
I
think
you
need
to
get
some
more
uses
along
the
trail,
and
that
goes
back
to
looking
at
some
of
our
zoning.
Our
code
is
20
years
old
and
one
of
my
priorities
is
to
relook
at
our
code,
because
after
20
years
you
have
examples
of
what's
worked
and
we
have
some
examples
of
things
that
are
broken.
Mr.
D
I'd
be
happy
to
I.
Think
there's
a
great
deal
of
opportunity
there
to
do
using
our
some
of
it's.
Our
existing
zoning
would
allow
it.
We
have
a
Clearwater
gas
facility
that
backs
up
along
the
trail,
it's
being
redeveloped
and
there's
plans
to
put
additional
landscaping
in
there.
Maybe
a
mural
along
this
bent
the
back
of
the
building,
something
to
make
it
interesting.
D
Maybe
some
shade
structures
along
there
I've
been
involved
in
the
courtney
campbell
trail,
and
we
done
some
things
there
too,
to
make
it
enjoyable
as
a
chance
to
sit
down
and
relax
and
in,
as
was
mentioned,
some
trees
along
the
trail,
but
part
of
it
is,
is
the
hem
in
downtown
area.
We
should
have
things
going
on
Jason
to
the
trail,
just
like
they
do
in
donating
Mars.
E
I'd
like
to
see
more
green
space
along
the
trail,
I'd
also
like
to
see
slightly
bigger
right-of-ways.
It
feels
like
a
wide
sidewalk
going
through
some
pretty
industrial
areas.
We
have
a
new
cross
town
section
of
it
and
it's
almost
stop.
Go,
stop.
Go,
stop,
go
I've,
ridden
on
this
trail,
I've
been
hit
by
a
car
once
so
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
in
Clearwater.
We
need
to
make
it
more
friendly.
We
could
put
that
trail.
We
could
reroute
it
a
little,
maybe
through
some
of
our
parks
to
this
big
green
space.
Imagine
Clearwater
idea.
E
They
have
a
run
that
trail
through
there.
I
haven't
seen
a
bike
trail
on
the
latest
plans.
So
it's
one
of
those
things
maybe
put
it
in
a
new
green
area.
I'd
like
to
see
another
program
at
a
million
trees,
Clearwater
million
trees
in
Clearwater
to
start
and
some
people
say
it
sounds
unrealistic,
but
more
trees
on
the
trail,
cars
will
recognize
the
trail
if
they
can
see
it
so
focus
on
that.
Alright.
A
C
There
are
some
things
that
can
be
given
back
the
police
and
the
fire
were
very
cooperative
back
then.
One
of
the
things
that
wasn't
very
important
to
me
coming
from
the
financial
industry
is
that
we
made
certain
that
not
only
the
pension
was
sustainable
but
that,
when
our
public
safety
officers
retired
that
the
pension
would
be
there
for
them.
If
you
look
around
the
country,
there
are
so
many
pensions
that
are
not
actually
found.
If
you
go
to
Illinois,
for
instance,
and
New
Jersey,
those
states
are
almost
bankrupt.
C
D
D
D
E
Know
there
were
a
lot
of
cutbacks
when
times
got
tight
and
then,
as
the
economy
grew
and
Clearwater
started
getting
money
back
into
the
system.
A
lot
of
these
groups
were
forgotten
and
they
were
left
out
and
I
know
it
comes
down
to
negotiations
and
it's
something
we
have
to
get
back
on
the
table,
but
in
order
to
have
some
of
the
best
police
and
the
best
fire
and
the
best
citywide
employees
we
do
have
to
get
back
to
negotiating
table,
we
should
give
them
back
some
of
the
things
that
were
taken
away.
E
A
B
We
should
make
every
effort
to
ensure
that
first
responders
get
the
sensation
that
they're
entitled
to
and
restitution
of
what
they
gave
up
during
tough
economic
times.
It's
so
important
to
keep
good
people
who
do
put
their
lives
on
the
line
for
us
and
feel
and
ensure
that
they
feel
that
they're
valued
and
are
going
to
have
a
secure
retirement.
A
D
Great
well
I
have
a
reusable
water
bottle
here
that
I'm
using
that's
a
single-use
I.
Think
oh
I
think
there
there
are
are
many
things.
We've
talked
about
trees,
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
our
for
Urban.
Forestry
Department
make
sure
that
not
only
are
the
trees
that
we
have
in
the
city
expanding,
but
that
we
maintain
the
trees
that
we
have
so
that
they
provide
the
the
the
health
of
capturing.
D
E
The
city
started
a
green
print
initiative,
I
feel
they've
been
failing
at
it
since
they
started
in
2011
I
think
it
was
just
last
year
we
finally
hired
a
coordinator
for
sustainability.
So
it's
something
major
issue:
it's
something
we
need
to
look
at.
We
breathe
air,
here's
the
most
important
thing
in
the
human's
life
we
cut
down,
trees
like
they
mean
nothing.
You
need
to
put
more
trees
back.
E
We
also
need
to
look
at
the
way
we
we
recycle
as
a
city
I've
been
on
a
tour
through
the
recycling
center
down
at
the
county
landfill,
where
our
trash
also
goes,
and
we
don't
recycle
enough,
we're
very
limited
on
what
we
recycle.
We
should
look
for
better
ways
to
recycle
and
I
think
the
order
needs
to
think
about
where
we're
to
be
in
the
next
50
years.
Our
landfill
only
has
about
50
years
left
and
that's
at
the
current
rate.
If
we
don't
mess
up
so
we
need
to
get
on
track.
E
We
need
to
be
greener,
we
need
to
plant
more
trees
and
we
need
to
take
care
of
Mother.
Nature
I
was
a
boy
scout.
We
learned
how
to
take
care
of
our
environment
and
that's
I'm
teaching
the
next
generation.
My
kids
are
in
school,
we're
all
learning
this
and
we
need
to
take
every
possible
step
to
move
forward.
B
Was
one
of
those
projects
that
asked
residents
for
collaboration
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
went
into
it
and
then
it
went
up
on
a
shelf
and
there
there's
been
very
little
done
to
implement
the
recommendations
that
were
made
and
now
we're
in
an
even
more
dire
situation.
So
a
combination
of
committing
to
renewable
energy
throughout
the
city
by
2050
and
increasing
trees
and
other
types
of
green
space
is
essential.
B
The
scientific
community
has
arrived
at
this
as
a
formula,
so
I
believe
that
and
in
fact,
beyond
new
development,
so
we
can
acquire
more
blighted
areas
and
turn
them.
Green
is
a
part
of
the
plan.
I
think
moving
away
from
fossil
fuels,
which
we
keep
expanding
by
expanding
Clearwater
gas
is
essential.
We
need
to
give
tax
incentives
to
businesses
that
move
to
renewable
energy,
to
stimulate
that
in
the
private
sector
and
commit
to
it
on
the
part
of
the
city
by
increasing
solar
and
electric
and
make
a
vehicle
fleet
electric.
Mr.
C
Hobart
well,
Green
print
actually
did
save
a
lot
of
money
and
was
more
responsible
toward
the
environment,
as
evidenced
by
this
room.
You
cannot
turn
the
thermostat
down
all
of
the
buildings
throughout
the
city
had
motion
detectors,
so
lights,
weren't
on
and
if
they
weren't
inhabited,
we
started
to
build
LEED
certified
buildings.
When
we
built
new
bit
of
buildings,
we
did
open
our
compressed
natural
gas
stationed
out
on
Hercules,
converted
all
of
our
fleet
trucks
over
from
diesel
to
compressed
natural
gas,
which
doesn't
meant
a
lot
less
into
the
environment.
C
A
All
right
in
Clearwater,
the
mayor
is
just
one
of
five
individuals
who
all
have
equal
voting
power
and
if
I
might
vote,
errs,
didn't
like
the
idea
of
switching
to
a
strong
mayor
form
of
government.
Is
that
correct?
Okay?
Great?
So,
if
you're
elected
mayor,
how
will
you
convince
the
other
commissioners
that
your
ideas,
because
you
have
mayor
even
though
you're
only
one
vote-
are
the
best
for
the
city?
Mr.
Myers
I'm,.
E
A
small
business
owner
I
have
to
convince
people
every
day,
I
own
a
pawn
shop,
I
consumer
I,
sell
things,
I
buy
things.
Sometimes
you
just
got
to
open
up
and
talk.
You
got
to
tell
them
your
ideas
and
you
got
to
tell
them
why
they
work
communication
I'm
all
about
being
open,
transparent
and
I
like
to
communicate
with
people.
I
think
communicating
with
the
rest
of
the
City
Council
is
a
key
thing
and
the
key
ingredient
to
being
able
to
get
things
done
in
the
city.
Mr.
mayor
I
think.
B
To
get
facts
together
and
marshal
them
and
make
convincing
arguments
is
what
lawyers
do
best.
I
was
also
a
mediator,
and
that
requires
bringing
people
together
and
convincing
them
to
agree
to
something
so
they're
all
giving
up
a
little
bit
and
arriving
at
consensus
and
I.
Think
that's
what
it's
all
about,
so
having
persuasive
arguments
and
being
able
to
work
with
people
of
different
backgrounds
and
different
political
persuasions
is
essential,
and
that
will
get
the
job
done.
Mr.
C
From
a
parliamentary
standpoint,
the
mirror
is
actually
the
weakest
member
of
the
City
Council,
because
the
mirror
could
not
make
a
motion
nor
second
emotion.
The
real
job
of
the
mirror
is
to
build
consensus
and
deliberate
with
the
rest
of
the
council,
I'm
humbled
by
the
fact
that
bill
and
I
worked
with
five
different
council
members
together.
All
five
of
them
are
endorsing
me.
C
D
Thank
you
when
I
was
at
PSTA
I
took
over
as
PSTA
chair
the
two
months
after
the
green
light.
Pinellas
failed
at
referendum,
and
we
worked
real
hard
to
implement
good
governance
on
the
PSTA
board
to
make
sure
that
everybody
will
have
a
chance
to
participate
in
discussions
not
be
shut
off.
We
looked
at
issues,
not
not
people
base
things,
and
we
rebuilt
that
organization
with
a
strategic
plan,
focus
on
and
goals,
and
that
has
to
be
done
here.
D
Sometimes
the
council
here
seems
to
get
shut
off,
because
nobody
will
even
listen
to
ideas.
That
should
not
happen.
That's
part
of
the
job
of
the
mayor
is
to
make
sure
that
the
council
comes
up
with
clear
and
consistent
direction
for
the
city
manager.
That's
their
number
one
priority.
They
haven't
been
doing
that
in
the
past.
Another.
A
D
D
The
one
that
comes
to
immediately
comes
to
mind
is
a
December
16
policy
that
determined
that
deleted
the
requirement
the
city
manager
have
annual
objectives.
It
also
deleted
the
connection
between
the
strategic
plan
and
the
budget.
It
also
deleted
the
values
statement
for
the
city.
I
would
hope
that
the
new
council
would
be
would
have
a
extensive
discussion
about
how
those
are
best
municipal
practices,
and
that
would
be
reinstated.
Mr.
Hobart
I.
C
B
To
environmental
objectives
like
increasing
habitat
and
promoting
echo
tourism
and
promoting
renewable
energy,
and
not
increasing
density
on
the
beaches,
which
was
a
huge
mistake,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
very
costly
one
in
the
future,
and
particularly
reducing
pesticides
that
we
spray
on
our
city.
Lands
which
are
known
to
have
adverse
health
effects
and
citizens,
especially
children,
should
not
be
exposed
to
those
are
the
type
of
things.
I
would
have
liked
to
see
that
we're
not
done.
Mr.
A
E
I'm
not
here
to
tear
down
what
George
has
done
or
hasn't
done
and
what
I
think
as
we
move
forward,
and
we
look
at
what
we
got
to
work
with
come
into
office.
I'd
like
to
open
things
up
and
maybe
look
at
things
like
single-member
districts
and
get
more
representation
up
here
on
the
City
Council
and
I'd
like
to
get
more
people
involved
and
hear
more
of
what
people
in
neighborhoods
have
to
say.
E
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
are
left
out
like
the
ones
I
grew
up
in
we,
we
were
never
had
a
part.
They
were
shocked
that
someone
in
their
neighborhood
or
they'd,
grown
up
in
their
neighborhood
was
even
taking
the
chance
at
running
and
trying
to
be
heard
so
I
feel
we
could
look
at
opening
things
up
and
getting
some
more
people
up
here.
Mr.
A
Jones
I'm
intrigued
by
one
thing
that
you
said
when
you
talked
about
and
I'll
use
the
word
foot-dragging.
There
was
a
lot
of
policies
that
you
would
like
to
have
enacted
and
others
would
have
liked
to
enact
some
of
them
that
got
started
and
got
put
on
the
shelves.
So
I
want
to
know
how
can
you
change
the
system
so
there
isn't
so
much
foot
dragging
or
sometimes,
as
we
call
it
analysis,
paralysis.
D
Well,
I
think
that
the
biggest
example,
for
instance,
is
when
we
do
a
study
that
we
should
not
embark
on
the
study.
If
we're
not
prepared
to
implement
the
results
of
that
study.
We
had
several
several
examples:
for
instance,
a
study
on
parking
in
downtown.
The
study
came
back
in
final
form.
It
was
not
even
looked
at
hey
I
as
a
as
a
layman
came
in
and
looked
at
it
and
said,
there's
problems
and
they
said
oh
whoops
and
send
it
back
to
the
consultants
to
correct
those
problems.
D
If
we're
gonna
do
a
study,
we
have
to
be
serious
about
accepting
the
results
of
it
and
then
moving
that
to
completion
the
other
one.
That
I
mentioned
was
the
street
sense
study
on
the
the
signs
in
downtown
ul
I
made
several
recommendations
that
haven't
been
implemented.
We
need
to
get
to
the
point
of
doing
more
smaller
things
faster
and
getting
them
behind
us
so
that
the
public
can
benefit
from
mr.
C
Think
this
goes
back
to
having
a
strategic
plan.
One
of
the
important
things
in
a
strategic
plan
is
you
have
guiding
principles
that
act
as
filters
for
what
you
pursue
and
a
lot
of
people
come
with
a
lot
of
great
ideas
and
on
the
surface
they
sound
good,
but
they
can
be
very
costly.
They
can
be
divisive,
guiding
principles
actually
act
as
a
filter.
If
they
don't
meet
the
guiding
principles
of
the
city
and
the
citizens
of
Clearwater,
then
we
don't
pursue
something.
I.
C
B
There
are
consultants,
I
understand
that
sometimes
there
are
decisions
that
need
to
be
made
that
are
outside
the
expertise
of
the
employees
of
the
city.
Active
funds
are
necessary,
but
when
a
study
is
done,
those
recommendations
need
to
be
implemented
on
some
kind
of
a
timeline,
there's
a
bias
towards
doing
less,
because
that
exposes
you
to
less
criticism
and
that's
something
we
need
to
get
over.
We
need
to
decide
where
we're
going,
establish
a
timeline
and
execute
actions.
According
to
that
timeline,
I'm
sorry.
E
Miss
Meyers
analysis
paralysis.
Well,
how
many
studies
have
we
done
on
big
projects
down
here
in
downtown
Clearwater?
How
many
times
have
we
looked
at?
Imagine
Clearwater
ideas,
we've
shot
it
down
over
and
over
and
over,
and
we
keep
doing
surveys
and
studies
and
I
feel
like.
Sometimes
we
need
to
actually
ask
the
people
what
they
want
and
then
listen.
We
had
75
percent
vote
that
wanted
imagine
Clearwater,
but
they
wanted
to
tie
together
a
park
for
families.
E
They
didn't
want
to
make
a
big
venue,
and
now
we
have
a
big
venue
on
our
hands
and
now
we
have
to
figure
out
what
to
do
with
it
and
where
we're
going
on
votes
of
three
stars,
the
last
vote,
the
30%
roll
out
plan.
They
judged
it
on
three
stars:
it's
almost
that's
not
how
I
want
to
be
represented.
I,
don't
think
anyone
in
here
wants
to
be
represented.
That
way,
we
want
to
say
we
want
to
make
sure
it
follows
what
we
our
guidelines.
So,
let's.
A
B
C
No
we're
not
too
far
in
business
when
you
do
a
study
like
it's
been
done.
Currently
it's
called
the
Sun
cost.
You
don't
make
a
bad
decision
just
because
you
have
a
enormous
amount
of
money
that
is
already
a
Sun
cost.
I
think
there's
things
that
need
to
be
addressed
in
the
imagine.
Clearwater
program
like
I,
said
about
the
library
I
think
you
can
come
in
and
do
value
engineering
on
a
lot
of
the
different
issues,
but
I
think
we
also
need
to
determine
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
with
imagine
Clearwater.
C
For
me.
I
want
to
create
a
place
that
is
going
to
bring
people
to
downtown
and
we've
talked
about
just
bringing
citizens
of
Clearwater
I
hope
it's
a
place
that
everybody
would
want
to
come
to
when
I
have
a
guest
in
town.
I
want
to
be
able
to
say,
I've
got
to
take
you
down
to
our
new
park,
it's
something
to
behold
and
if
I
don't
feel
like
that,
then
I
don't
think.
We've
accomplished
what
we're
trying
to
do.
Mr.
D
Johnson,
thank
you.
I'm
good.
Mr.
Hobart
I'm
really
happy
to
hear
those
things
about
going
back
to
the
original
goal
and
also
to
look
at
some
options.
I
know
that
you
and
I
spent
20
minutes
on
the
phone
call
on
February
7th
2019,
where
you
were
trying
to
convince
me
that
what
was
really
intended
was
a
world-class
performance
area
for
culture
and
park.
D
Clearly
that
wasn't
the
intent
of
the
citizens
study,
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
coming
up
with
the
citizens
plan
I'm,
so
grateful
that
that
we're
now
going
back
and
I
think
we
should
go
back.
I
think
we
must
go
back.
If
we
just
do
this
based
on
performances
coming
in
those
people
come
they
leave.
It
diminishes
the
quality
of
life
for
the
residents
in
downtown.
We
need
to
do
a
time
out
for
that
portion
of
the
project.
Mr.
E
Myers
we're
not
too
far.
It's
definitely
there's
plenty
of
time
to
change
things.
There's
three
seats
available
right
now.
It
only
takes
three
votes
to
unravel
a
lot
of
wrongdoing,
they're
looking
at
something
as
simple
as
marketing
the
whole
program
under
coachmen
comments,
we're
gonna,
ditch
the
name
and
the
heritage
of
this
park.
We're
gonna
do
a
disservice
to
the
coachmen
family,
which
did
so
much
for
this
community
I.
Think
we
look
at
what
the
original
goal
was.
E
We
were
gonna
redo
the
park
and
have
a
green
space
for
families
and
tie
it
all
together
and
there
was
gonna
be
coach
from
Park.
It
wasn't
kind
of
getting
renamed.
It
was
gonna,
be
something
for
our
families
to
come
to.
It
was
gonna,
have
a
new
band
shelf
because
they've
determined
ours
is
outdated,
but
it
didn't
need
an
amphitheater.
It's
lost
sight
of
what
we
wanted,
as
people
I
think.
What
we
want
is
with
the
original
plan.
Color
just
tie
it
all
together.
Call
it
coachman
Park
not
spend
64
million
dollars
on
it.
E
A
C
No
I
think
we
need
to
stay
in
our
lanes.
Everyone
has
their
own
opinions,
obviously
on
all
of
these
issues,
but
you
know
we
had
a
libertarian
forum
a
couple
weeks
ago,
and
that
was
one
of
the
questions
on
gun
control.
We're
not
here
to
change
the
US
Constitution.
We
may
change
our
charter,
but
you
know
for
city
government.
What
we
really
are
is
a
service
delivery
company.
We
deliver
Public
Safety
through
police
and
fire.
C
B
I,
don't
think
we
should
be
involved
in
regulating
guns,
control
and
immigration,
even
if
we
could
which,
under
the
law,
we
can't
do
a
city's
and
that's
just
not
the
business
we're
in
there.
There
there's
plenty
to
do
and
plenty
to
make
policy
on
and
plenty
to
provide
with
limited
resources
in
the
city
to
give
any
attention
to
those
issues.
Miss.
E
Mars
I'm
a
firm
believer
in
our
Constitution
and
our
civil
rights
and
I
think
as
a
city
we
shouldn't
be
trying
to
step
on
any
of
our
civil
rights.
I
think
we're
here
as
a
service
for
the
people,
and
we
should
not
forget
that
we're
here,
for
you
guys
I'm
up
here,
because
I'm
taking
a
chance
for
you
guys
so
I
think
the
Constitution
is
the
greatest
document
in
our
country
was
written
by
some
of
the
greatest
minds.
E
The
only
thing
the
city
should
do
is
like
Frank
says,
make
sure
when
you
flush
the
toilet,
say:
work
police
respond
properly,
fire
is
here
and
we
make
sure
everything's.
Equal
equality
is
a
great
issue
in
the
city
and
that's
one
of
the
things
we
can
help
with,
but
I
don't
think
we
should
be
stepping
on
anyone's
constitutional
rights
or
civil
liberties.
Mr.
Johnson
I.
D
D
There
are
some
problems
in
those
neighborhoods,
some
opportunities
dealing
with
things
in
the
neighborhood
like
the
penal
system
and
people
coming
back
to
the
neighborhoods
and
trying
to
get
jobs,
I
think
we
can
participate
in
the
discussion
with
our
state
elected
leaders
in
on
those
issues,
but
I
wouldn't
be
breaking
new
ground.
We
do
have
to
be
trustworthy
with
our
citizens.
D
B
Would
have
to
say
yes
based
on
what
I
know
now,
because
the
firefighters
have
talked
about
slowed
response
in
the
case
of
a
call
by
a
countryside
residents
if
if
only
the
one
unit
is
occupied
in
some
other
emergencies.
So
there
are
other
options
like
having
units
available
during
peak
hours
and
not
full-time.
So
you
limit
the
amount
of
new
hires
and
new
equipment
that
you
purchase,
but
as
a
countryside,
resident
I
certainly
want
to
make
sure
that
if
somebody
has
a
heart
attack
and
they
need
that
rescue
unit-
that
it
goes
out,
pronto.
C
We
are
an
ISO
one,
rated
City.
What
does
that
mean?
It's
a
it's
a
national
rating
and
if
you
are
a
1,
that
means
you
are
in
the
top
1%
of
cities
in
the
country
as
far
as
response
equipment,
and
so
we
ought
to
be
proud
of
that.
The
practical
side
of
that
is.
It
actually
means
that
your
insurance
rates
are
lower.
The
issue
with
the
countryside
station
is
that
the
chief
is
willing
to
put
a
12-hour
staff
there
and
it
is
a
negotiation
right
now
with
the
fire
union.
C
D
Of
the
greatest
secrets
is
that
we
have
a
countywide
fire
department,
a
County,
that
the
different
cities-
collaborate
with
Pinellas
County
Pinellas
County,
provides
much
of
the
funding
for
cities
like
Clearwater
as
we
go
out
and
provide
service
to
the
unincorporated
areas.
The
Chiefs
collectively
get
together
and
look
at
statistics
every
90
days
just
to
determine
what
adjustments
should
be
made
in
the
coverage,
and
you
need
to
make
decisions
based
on
data.
We
also
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
not
missing
anything
as
we
go
through
there.
D
E
Wires
as
someone
that
went
through
the
Fire
Academy
program
and
the
EMT
program,
I
actually
was
looking
at
that
as
a
career
in
the
2009
cutbacks
which
took
away
this
piece
of
apparatus
was
the
reason
I
didn't
get
employed
in
that
department,
we're
employed
in
that
field.
So
it's
one
vehicle,
it's
a
rescue
truck,
looks
like
an
ambulance.
E
It
staffs
two
people
full-time,
so
we're
looking
at
six
people
to
staff
it,
but
I
think
if
it
helps
people
in
countryside
feel
better
at
night,
it's
more
of
a
public
service,
it's
something
we
should
supply
to
them.
It's
something
they
had
before,
and
their
quality
of
life
changed
during
the
recession
and
our
money's
flowing
again.
So
why
don't?
We
have
the
same
coverage?
E
A
Have
been
a
lot
of
start
and
stops
with
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
get
more
transportation
to
stop
using
cars
to
get
from
Clearwater
to
Clearwater
Beach
there's
been
ferries
there's
even
some
I
interviewed
a
guy
who
had
this
wild
idea
of
gondolas
over
the
top.
So
where
are
we
going
with
that
and
does
something
need
be
done
to
take
a
better
look
at
that?
So
we
can
depend
upon
if
we
have
families
going?
A
B
Are
options
for
public
transportation
that
we
have,
that
might
be
underutilized
like
the
ferry,
which
is
a
great
service
and
I,
don't
think
it's
publicized
enough.
The
Jolly
trolley
service
could
be
expanded
to
other
parts
of
the
city.
We
could
look
into
bus,
rapid
transit,
which
is
very
popular
in
other
areas,
and
we
probably
should
I
think
we
are
over
developed
and
the
level
of
traffic
we
have
is
unacceptable
and
there
is
no
going
back.
C
While
the
citizens
have
voted
down
green
light
before
which
was
going
to
offer
public
transit,
we
actually
bought
the
st.
Pete
Times
property,
because
at
one
time
we
were
hoping
that
light
rail
would
be
on
the
CSX
line,
which
is
an
existing
quarter.
That
would
go
from
Clearwater
down
to
st.
Petersburg
out
to
the
beach.
Is
tough
people
with
families,
coolers
kids
chairs,
to
get
them
to
get
into
something
and
load
it
into
a
BRT
or
a
gondola
or
the
ferry
is
difficult.
C
The
other
issue
I
think
the
ferries
been
great,
but
we
haven't
dedicated
enough
parking
which
we
would
need
to
dedicate
on
the
waterfront
at
coachmen
Park.
Well,
we
all
know
that.
That's
not
going
to
happen.
So
that's
one
of
the
challenges
for
the
ferry
we've
got
to
find
a
way
that
is
less
expensive.
That's
efficient
that
will
get
people
make
the
decision
to
get
out
of
their
cars
rather
than
finding
the
last
spot
on
Clearwater
Beach.
What
mr.
D
You
one
of
the
suggestions
that
I
made
in
a
previous
forum
was
that
we
should
make
the
trolleys
on
the
intercoastal
layer
or
the
barrier
islands
free
and
be
funded
by
the
tourist
development
tax
that
would
attract
more
people
to
using
that
would
have
less
let's
cars
on
the
beaches.
It
would
make
it
easier
to
get
back
and
forth.
D
The
Jolly
trolley
does
provide
service
from
Dunedin
Oh,
like
actually
all
the
way
up
to
Tarpon
Springs
through
Dunedin
and
now
to
the
beach
and
is
provides
a
good
service
at
the
spring
break
period
that
their
service
is
supplemented
through
PSTA.
The
other
options
that
you
talked
about.
We
need
to
monitor
technology,
and
if
it
becomes
possible,
then
we
wish
we
should
use
it.
One.
A
D
E
Right
currently,
the
City
Council
has
been
looking
at
and
discussing,
and
they
keep
talking
about
here
and
they're
planning
a
simple
thing
called
skytran,
but
it's
not
a
simple
thing,
but
I'm
interested
in
alternative
options
to
fossil
fuels
and
driving
cars
and
lessening
traffic
for
all
of
us.
What
I
don't
see
is
something
that
should
be
a
burden
on
the
taxpayers
wallets.
If
big
companies
want
to
come
in
with
big
ideas
and
they
want
to
propose
them
to
us,
they
have
to
be
willing
to
finance
the
whole
operation.
E
It
shouldn't
be
something
that
we
have
to
pay
for.
It's
something
that
we
pay
to
use,
but
the
city
it
shouldn't,
be
a
burden
on
our
wallets,
so
I
am
always
looking
for
what
the
next
mode
of
transportation
is
and
something
that
we
can
do
better
is
getting
around
town
just
on
a
day
to
day
commute
to
work,
but
these
tourists
come
into
town
and
they
can
just
our
roads.
So
if
we
can
get
them
to
where
they
want
to
go
faster
I'm
all
for
that,
too,.
A
Ok,
I'm
gonna
do
something.
That's
unusual.
I'm
gonna
give
you
each
one
of
you
a
minute
what
I
call
a
freebie,
something
that
I
haven't
asked
a
question
about
something
you
wish.
You
were
asked
a
question
about
and
that's
not
in
your
closing
statements.
That'll
come
later,
but
anything
that
you
want
to
talk
about
that
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
talk
about
I.
Wonderful,
all
the
hearings
have
been
all
those
kinds
of
things.
So,
let's
just
start
and
we'll
start
with
you
mr.
Meyers
and
work
our
way.
A
E
Right
the
amount
of
money
that
this
city
can
talk
about
spending
and
they
don't
spend
it
on
our
citizens.
That's
what
I
look
at
you
talk
about.
You
know
we
spend
a
hundred
million
dollars
on
the
beach,
we're
looking
to
spend
sixty
four
million
dollars
on
downtown.
Is
it
gonna
help
our
small
businesses?
Probably
not?
Is
it
gonna
help
our
community
get
down
to
the
park
more
than
once,
probably
not
I
think
we
need
a
reality
check.
We
need
some
common
sense.
E
That's
what
got
me
up
here
is
I'm
I'm
kind
of
the
vote
for
common
sense
I'm,
one
of
the
guys
that
grew
up
here
and
I've
grown
up
watching
all
this
and
sometimes
I.
Ask
myself
why
I
decided
to
step
up
and
get
up
here
to
not
only
ask
why,
but
to
help
bring
that
into
reality,
check
and
make
sure
we're
doing
the
best
we
can
with
our
tax
dollars.
We
don't
need
to
keep
raising
their
taxes.
We
need
to
lessen
the
burden
on
all
of
us
citizens
and
all
of
us
businesses.
You.
D
You,
the
citizen
survey
that
I
talked
about
before
ranked
our
city
in
the
bottom.
Third,
in
generally,
acting
in
the
best
interest
of
the
community
in
the
bottom
third
and
being
honest
in
the
bottom
third
of
treating
all
residents
fairly
to
me,
that's
not
acceptable
and
if
I'm
mayor
we'll
work
really
hard
to
change
that
and
I
think
that
we
can
do
that
through
our
advertising
that
we
associate
with
campaigns.
One
of
my
opponents
campaign
literature
said
that
there
were
no
tax
increases
when
he
was
mayor.
D
A
C
C
Tourism
is
a
huge
economic
engine
for
us,
and
our
neighborhoods
are
where
we
all
live.
So
one
of
my
focuses
is
going
to
be
working
on
our
codes
to
make
sure
we
protect
our
residential
areas.
We've
had
some
conflicts
recently.
I
want
to
also
look
at
our
codes
and
our
processes
to
make
sure
that
we
make
things
reasonable
on
businesses.
If
they
want
to
set
up
shop
here
in
Clearwater,
we
ought
to
make
it
as
easy
as
possible.
We
still
have
codes
and
then
we
still
need
to
keep
our
tourism
industry
robust.
C
B
Think
the
level
of
development
on
the
beach
has
been
detriment
to
the
community.
I
think
that
so
many
people
do
not
go
to
the
beach
because
it's
suggested
and
expensive
and
it's
for
the
tourists
I
think
the
walling
off
of
the
beach
was
a
mistake
and
I
think
it's
gonna
put
us
in
a
very
precarious
position
in
coming
decades,
with
sea
level
rise
when
we
have
to
maintain
the
infrastructure
to
serve
those
residences
and
hotels
that
are
there,
it's
gonna
be
hugely
expensive
and
we
don't
have
the
money
to
pay
for
it.
B
So,
from
an
environmental
perspective
from
a
cost
perspective,
I
think
that
was
take
and
we
should
look
into
changing
the
zoning
and
the
development
code.
So
when
these
buildings
age
out,
we
put
in
more
environmentally-friendly
structures
and
restore
the
natural
areas,
so
they're
a
buffer
to
sea
level
rise
and
less
of
a
negative
impact
on
the
environment,
and
this
will
require
some
cooperation
from
the
state,
because
state
laws
do
a
lot
to
prohibit
that.
Okay,.
A
D
C
Hobart
we
have
to
replace
mr.
horn
who's
been
here
for
twenty
years.
We
need
to
find
the
right
leader
by
doing
a
national
search
that
is
gonna
lead
us,
perhaps
for
the
next
decade,
on
a
daily
basis
through
administration
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
you
do
to
make
certain
that
that
person
is
doing
what
the
City
Council
in
the
citizens
want
is
having
a
long
term
strategic
plan.
Mr.
A
A
A
I'll
collect
the
20
bucks
later,
okay
anyway.
So
now
it's
time
for
our
closing
statements
and
by
the
way
we
answer
to
20
questions,
you
did
a
great
job
tonight
dealing
with
all
these
topics
that
are
so
near
and
dear
the
people
of
Clearwater.
Most
of
these
questions,
I
got
have
come
from
the
debates
that
you've
already,
and
there
is
nothing
surprising
about
any
of
them,
except
people
would
just
like
to
have
some
answers
and
some
clarity
as
to
what
direction
you
will
go
with
your
candidacy,
so
we're
going
in
the
reverse
order.
E
Meyers
I
think
I
bring
a
different
diversity.
I
bring
an
age
diversity
to
the
City
Council,
something
that
it
might
be
ready
for
my
generation
in
the
next
generation
to
step
up
and
help
lead
I
think
we
need
to
focus
on
preservation.
We
need
to
focus
on
being
greener.
We
also
need
to
focus
on
equality
throughout
our
entire
city
and
making
all
the
neighborhoods
count.
E
Reimagine
Clearwater
is
what
I'm
thinking
I
think
we
lost
focus
on
the
imagine,
Florida,
project
and
I
think
we
need
to
focus
on
what
the
next
20
years
of
this
city
is
gonna.
Look
like
and
who's
gonna
bring
it
to
you.
So
my
name
is
Morton
Myers
Wharton
Myers
for
mayor
comm.
Please
check
me
out
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
you
in
the
near
future.
Mr.
Johnson.
D
Thank
you.
Well,
you
may
be
wondering
why
elect
another
old
white
guy
to
be
your
mayor
four
times,
you've
selected
me
to
be
your
councilmember
I
know
my
track
record
as
a
servant
leader.
You
know
my
track
record
as
a
servant.
Leader
I
work
solely
for
you,
I'm
not
involved
with
other
special
interests.
Well,
it's
true
I'm
older,
but
you
may
see
how
eager
I
am
to
get
out
to
all
parts
of
Clearwater
to
hear
from
you
eager
to
work
together
to
make
your
clearwater
better.
Unlike
another
up
here,
I
have
never
been
your
mayor.
D
A
C
Hibbert,
thank
you
all
for
being
here,
I'm
sure
you're,
seeing
differences
and
the
people
who
want
to
represent
you
as
I
told
you
earlier.
The
thing
that
is
important
is
qualifications,
experience
and
passion.
Now
I
can
tell
you
that
I'm
the
right
person
but
I
think
you
ought
to
hear
from
other
people.
As
I
said.
Mr.
C
Johnson
and
I
worked
with
five
other
councilmembers
Democrats
and
Republicans,
even
though
this
is
a
nonpartisan
race,
but
all
of
them
have
endorsed
me,
as
has
the
Tampa
Bay
Times
and
the
Fraternal
Order
of
Police
and
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
the
realtor's
Association.
So
don't
take
my
word
for
who's
the
best
person
for
this
job.
Take
all
these
other
groups
who've
been
watching.
The
people
who
are
up
here
for
years
and
unanimously
are
recommending
me
I
told
you
at
the
beginning,
I
was
gonna,
ask
for
your
vote.
C
A
B
Two
of
the
people
up
here
have
been
in
and
out
of
city
government
for
twenty
years.
So
let's
look
at
what
they
left
us
dead,
downtown
a
wall
of
concrete
on
the
beach
red
tape,
hamstringing
businesses,
nightmarish
traffic
and
no
plans
for
sea
level
rise,
an
overpriced,
amphitheater
and
theme
park.
E
bluff
are
not
gonna
change
the
facts
on
the
ground
and
selling
off
city
land.
To
pay
for
all
of
this
would
be
a
tremendous
mistake:
I'm
not
connected
to
all
the
big
players
in
the
city.
B
What
I
can
offer
you
is
intelligent
ethics
and
a
promise
to
work
hard
for
the
city.
I'm
not
gonna,
make
backroom
and
spring
them
on
residents
who
have
no
chance
to
fight
back.
If
you
want
different
results,
you
need
to
elect
different
leadership,
so
I'm,
giving
you
a
choice.
Elizabeth
dryer,
please
vote
for
me.
March,
17
and.
A
And
you
were
an
absolutely
model
audience.
Thank
you
so
much.
You
can
just
a
reminder
that
we
will
be
carrying
another
debate
tomorrow.
Night
that'll
be
with
those
that
are
trying
to
win
the
city
council
seats
number
two
and
number
three.
Until
then,
I'm
al
Rochelle
don't
forget
to
vote
on
March
the
17th
take
care.