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A
E
Good
morning,
council
city
staff,
this
will
establish
a
relationship
with
a
city
of
borscht
France.
It's
located
about
two
hours
south
directly
from
Paris.
The
relationship
contacted
the
city
contacted
mr.
mayor
December
of
last
year.
The
connection
is
that
the
moanin
syrup
company
was
founded
in
borscht.
They
have
their
North
American
operations
located
here
in
Clearwater.
Their
economy
is
based
on
manufacturing,
but
mainly
also
tourism
as
well.
They
have
some
historic
cathedrals.
E
The
city
was
established
in
52
BC
by
the
Romans,
so
their
history
is
a
little
bit
longer
than
ours,
but
they
are
very
heavenly
tourist
base.
They
also
have
educational
based
system.
There,
two
universities
in
the
city,
it's
a
very
interesting
relationship.
They
approached
us
and
are
very
eager
and
excited
about
the
possibility
of
starting
a
relationship
heard
the
international
Sister
Cities
organization.
This
is
a
protocol
for
getting
to
a
formal
establishment.
E
Both
cities
will
institute
a
resolution
to
declare
their
interest
in
partnering,
and
then
the
cities
will
put
together
a
partnership
agreement
in
which
we
define
the
terms
of
the
exchanges
and
what
the
focuses
will
be
for
that
relationship
with
that.
I'll
have
any
question
for
me
happy
to
answer
them
any.
E
F
A
C
G
E
One
came
from
outside
of
the
community,
it
came
to
us
from
the
city
of
Warsh
directly,
but
we
do
have
some
community
interests
from
it
as
well.
Some
citizens
that
are
currently
over
in
borsch
are
from
Clearwater
and
work
with
the
company
and
we'll
be
coming
back
in
about
a
year
and
a
half
so
there's
already
some
citizen
exchange
at
that
level.
I'll
be
at
the
economic
level
without
the
program.
There
is
some
interest,
we're
back
and
forth
mayor.
A
E
A
Especially
since
you
mentioned
that
the
board
has
a
university,
yes,
sir,
that
would
be
helpful
and
then
my
other
question
was
going
to
be
how
big
of
a
role
is
London
gonna
play
in
this?
Are
they
the
driving
you
know?
Are
they
gonna
help
us?
You
know
with
with
all
the
stuff
that
has
to
be
done
to
help
foster
this
relationship.
E
I
think
they
can
be
a
strong
partner,
I
envision
that,
as
actually
the
representatives
that
are
traveling
back
and
forth,
that
are
coming
back
to
Clearwater.
They
can
be
a
strong
force
for
supporting
our
program,
as
well
as
the
sister
cities.
Advisory
board
puts
their
strong
force
behind
it,
as
well
as
sister
cities.
Inc,
who
is
our
citizen,
volunteer
board
they're
very
excited
about
this
program.
All.
A
H
So
in
December,
2017
council
authorized
an
agreement
with
Bay
care
to
provide
employing
related
health
care
services,
including
pre-employment
physicals,
as
well
as
drug
testing.
The
term
of
the
initial
agreement
was
for
calendar
year,
28
I'm,
sorry,
yeah
2018,
with
two
one-year
renewal
options.
We
have
an
opus
open
purchasing
contract
which
allows
us
to
spend
$25,000
annually
for
the
current
year
and
for
2020,
but
it
is
not
sufficient
to
cover
actual
services
rendered.
B
D
4.1
award
a
construction
contract
to
restack
on
corporation
of
tampa
florida
in
the
amount
of
seven
hundred
two
thousand
eight
hundred
and
forty
dollars.
Eight
hundred
forty
eight
dollars
and
forty
cents
for
the
garden
Avenue
garage
restoration
project
and
authorized
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute,
say
mr.
Johnson
warning
the.
I
North
Garden
Avenue
parking
garage
provides
250
spaces
for
the
downtown
area.
What
this
contract
will
allow
us
to
do
is
do
our
maintenance
repairs,
basically
resealing
joints,
they're,
so
small
and
cracking
on
concrete.
This
basically
allows
us
to
maintain
the
garage
and
existing
condition
are
in
a
condition.
That's
acceptable,
extending
a
lot
extending
the
lifespan
of
that
structure.
I
C
I
C
I
There's
quite
a
bit
of
work
to
do
up
there
as
well
yeah.
Basically,
every
joint
of
concrete
in
between
the
joint
is
gonna
be
pulled
up
and
redone
there's
something
decadent
gonna
be
you're
done,
so
it's
quite
an
overall,
but
it
needs
to
be
done
to
keep
that
thing.
When.
G
You
there's
kind
of
I
think
it's
just,
but
should
I
do
parking.
J
I
The
contracts
written
in
a
pretty
long
duration,
but
I
anticipate
within
two
or
three
months,
Oh,
depending
on
the
coordination.
You
know,
we'd
like
to
keep
it
operating
and
move
traffic
around
throughout
there,
while
we're
working
one
area
routing
traffic
around
to
another,
so
two
or
three
months
is
what
I've,
probably
so,.
J
A
I
Did
a
similar
project
a
decade
ago,
a
decade
ago,
it's
concrete!
So
it's
it's!
It's
built
to
last.
As
long
as
we
maintain
it
see.
What
ends
up
happening
is
the
joints
in
between
them
end
up
breaking
down,
because
it's
not
it's
a
material
that
breaks
down
quicker,
so
water
seeps
into
that,
and
then
it
gets
into
the
concrete
and
rebar
causes
falling
and
cracking.
So
as
long
as
we
replace
that
stuff,
you
know
a
much
better
chance
of
it
lasting
longer.
F
I
F
It
is,
it
is
structurally
sound.
This
is
just
general
maintenance
that
you
have
to
do
the
Sun
just
like
on
the
roof
rooftop
area,
the
Sun
is
brutal.
One
concrete
and
I
mean
these
are
normal
repairs
that
anybody
anybody
does
on
a
structure
of
this
nature,
but
the
structure
itself
is
sound
and
not
not
anywhere
near
I.
I
Related
to
an
oil
change,
you
know
you
do
no
change
in
an
annual
frequency
or
a
regular
frequency
so
that
your
engine
doesn't
blow
up.
So
that's
that's!
Typically.
What
I
relate
this
to
is
we're
doing
these
repairs
on
on
a
continual
basis,
to
make
sure
that
the
product
lasts
as
long
as
it
can
good
point.
D
K
Good
morning
my
name
is
Jeremy
brown.
The
engineering
manager
for
utilities,
Pinellas
County,
intends
to
improve
drainage
and
sidewalks
along
view
road
between
South
Lincoln
Avenue
to
Stevenson,
Creek,
Hillcrest
Avenue.
This
project
will
relocate
water
in
sanitary
sewer
lines
that
conflict
with
the
proposed
improvements,
the
city
of
we
advise
of
the
actual
contract,
bid
costs
and
be
given
the
opportunity
to
reject
the
bid.
If
it's
deemed
excessive
I'm
happy
to
respond
any
questions.
Any.
G
D
L
Morning,
Council
Tom
Maloney
engineering
department:
this
will
be
a
town,
10
unit,
townhome
development,
with
two
three-story
bit
units
on
it.
The
site
consists
of
approximately
2
acres.
This
will
be
a
private
street
within
the
suppli
tennety
townhomes.
This
project
was
approved
to
DRC
on
December
3rd
of
2015
and
again
by
CDP
on
August
15th
of
2017.
L
F
Hamilton,
knowing
this
area
very
well,
I
I
mean
these
townhomes.
These
are
not
going
to
be
I'm
guessing.
These
are
not
gonna,
be
high-dollar
units
I
mean
you're
you're
right
on
the
railroad
track.
You're,
it's
a
very
small
pie,
shape
pie,
shaped
lot
and
across
the
railroad
track.
Is
the
Long
Center
I
mean
it's
a
this?
Is
your
there
shoehorning
some
more
units
in
here
and
I
can't
imagine
being
a
high
dollar,
but
I,
don't
know
what
else
you
do
with
that
property,
so
I
mean.
D
D
D
Things
what
we
would
want
to
do
is
to
make
sure
that
that
developer
informs
whoever
they're
selling
these
units
do,
that
it
is
an
active
railway
and
that
you
know
it
doesn't
seem
practical
that
we
would
get
involved
in
any
kind
of
quieting.
You
sound
doing
that,
but
this
goes
back
to
what's
happening
at
downtown,
where
people
watch
those
condos
and
yeah
I
mean
they
they
they
knew
going
in
that
they
were
that
they
were
next.
D
D
A
performance
agreement
with
United
public
safety,
Fort
Washington
Pennsylvania
for
a
three-year
term;
December
1
2019
through
November
30th
2022,
with
an
option
of
two
one-year
renewals
for
parking
violation,
permit
profit,
processing
and
collection
agency
services
in
the
not
to
exceed
amount
of
a
hundred
and
seventy
six
thousand
six
hundred
dollars
in
authorized
to
your
ferpa,
tough
issues
to
execute,
say
mr.
writer
morning.
M
Mayor
councilmembers
again
I'm
here
to
get
approval
for
a
performance
agreement
with
United
public
safety
for
parking,
citation,
processing,
digital
permit,
processing
and
parking
citation
collections.
The
proposed
agreement
again
is
for
three
years
with
two
one
year:
extensions,
an
RFP
was
done
with
12
firms
responding
and
five
firms
giving
presentations
of
which
united
public
safety
was
selected
by
the
committee.
Any
questions.
A
A
But
is
it
good
to
be
identified
as
a
city
of
clear
water?
I
know
this
is
what
I'm
saying
is
when
the
citation
is
sent
out.
It
doesn't
necessarily
have
a
clear
water,
postmark
or
clear
water
return
address
and
the
question
is,
you
know:
why
am
I
paying
somebody
out
of
Stephen
out-of-state,
miker
water,
fine,.
M
A
So
there
is
an
explanation
that
the
vendor
is
not
a
you
know
is
working
for
the
city
of
Clearwater,
okay,
all
right.
That
would
be
helpful
because
we
get
we
get.
You
know
people
people
question
that,
even
if
it's
online
make
sure
that
it,
you
know
that
that's
readily
understood,
yes,
concep
four-point-five.
D
N
A
morning,
Robert
was
a
quiz
day.
Corinader
the
city
of
quad,
acquired
this
Lancelot
landlocked
parcel
via
foreclosures
on
December
18,
2008
een,
an
independent
portrayal
of
determine
the
fair
market
value
of
six
thousand
dollars.
City
council
declared
the
pipe
a
surplus
will
sail
through
invitation
to
bid
it
in
June
twentieth
2019,
the
terms
set
by
Council,
where
the
qualifying
bids
were
to
exceed
six
thousand
dollars,
and
the
successful
builder
should
be
the
owner
and
feed
hub
to
landscape.
Ten
goes
to
the
property.
One
qualifying
bid.
N
F
F
K
Good
morning
my
name
is
Jeremy
brown,
the
engineering
manager
for
utilities.
As
you
may
recall,
we
held
one
of
those
excuse
me
about
six
months
ago
to
discuss
plans
to
delay
the
groundwater
replenishment
project.
While
we
complete
a
water
system
master
plan
due
to
the
delay
swift
mud,
Southwest,
Florida,
Water,
Management
District
has
requested
the
city
modified
the
co-operative
20,
an
agreement
to
allow
Swift
mud
to
utilize
some
of
those
for
other
projects,
while
the
water
master
plan
is
completed.
The
item
before
you
today
is
that
not
a
fight
agreement,
I'm
happy
respond.
F
B
K
If
this
was
their
money
that
they
allocated
for
us
over
the
years,
then
believe
it
they've
held
that
money.
Aside
over
the
years
we've
had
discussions
with
them,
they've
indicated
towards
us
towards
us
that
this
project
is
still
going
to
maintain
a
high
score.
So
if
and
when
we
do
reapply,
we
should
rank
high
in
that
in
the
we
should
be
a
prioritized
project.
But
technically
this
is
this,
and
this
is
taking
the
phone
anyway.
D
Try
prop
to
our
LLC
and
ma
MPC
properties,
inc
as
assigned
by
Atlantic
properties
and
Co
Holdings
LLC,
nakata,
Holdings
LLC,
the
property
owners
and
the
city
of
Clearwater
for
property
located
in
4:01
for
11
21,
425
and
431
South
Delphian
Boulevard,
which
adds
Exhibit
A
one
to
provide
an
updated
legal
description
to
include
parcels.
Zero.
D
O
You
good
morning
on
September
19th
of
2014
City
Council
approved
the
allocation
of
up
to
100
units
from
the
reserve
for
this
general
site
that
project
included
227
units
at
114
units
an
acre
on
March
17th
of
2015,
the
Community
Development
Board
approved
case
FLD,
2015
0
9,
0
3
6
to
permit
that
exact
project
in
August
of
2015
City
Council
approved
the
first
amendment
to
this
project
that
essentially
added
just
a
little
bit
of
height
to
the
project.
Since
then,
we
now
have
our
second
amendment
just
kind
of
want
to
get
the
background.
O
The
second
amendment
is
coming
through
and
for
two
basic
reasons:
one
they
added
property.
They
bought
the
post
corner
pizza
site,
which
might
have
been
shorter
than
then
stating
the
parcel
ID
number
but
and
they're
also
proposing
a
pedestrian
bridge.
That's
going
to
connect
this
parcel
to
the
opal
sands
across
across
the
way.
That's
the
exhibit
II
the
height
of
the
building
stays
the
same.
The
overall
number
of
units
goes
up
to
two
hundred
and
forty-eight
units.
The
overall
density
goes
down
actually
to
just
about
103
units
per
acre.
O
O
There's
no
change
to
the
use
of
the
property,
it's
still
going
to
be
a
hotel
and
in
fact
the
the
overall
shape
of
the
project
is
pretty
much
the
same.
What
the
addition
of
this
parcel
allowed
was
just
a
reorientation
and
consolidation
of
the
parking
component
so
that
it's
pretty
much
all
up
on
the
south
side
of
the
site
other
than
that
the
basic
shape
and
the
form
of
the
project
has
is
remaining
the
same.
O
O
The
setbacks
are
all
the
same
as
they
were
originally
approved,
actually
so
as
to
height,
the
project
continues
to
appear
to
be
consistent
with
the
beach
by
design
design
guidelines,
and
it's
also
continues
to
be
consistent
with
the
requirements
for
allocation
of
units
from
the
reserve.
One
point
I
do
want
to
note,
because
I'll
bet
somebody
will
ask.
No
there
there,
there
are
no
units
left
in
the
reserve.
They
are
not
getting
any
more
units.
The
number
of
units
that
have
been
allocated
100
units
that
that
remains
the
same.
O
F
Understanding
the
big
change
in
this
is
originally
the
developer
owner
of
the
property
did
not
own
the
post,
Corner
pizza
property,
correct
they
have
now
negotiated
and
just
the
post
corner
pizza
property
so
that
they
brought
that
in
that's
where
they're
getting
their
additional
motel
units
because
of
that
acreage
there,
but
they're
now.
Also.
My
understanding
is
that
in
the
new
design
there
will
be
250
additional
public
parking
spaces
that
were
not
in
the
original
design
right,
yeah.
O
They're
providing
excess
parking,
and
you
know
that
I
mean
at
this
stage
they're
still
working
out
the
exact
floor
design
and
all
that.
So
they
don't
have
the
exact
number
of
parking
spaces
that
they're
going
to
provide
they're,
certainly
going
to
be
providing
more
than
the
minimum
1.2
spaces
per
unit,
and
they've
indicated
to
me
that
they're
committed
to
providing
any
excess
parking
to
the
you
know
to
public
use
and.
F
A
O
A
Well,
maybe
none
doesn't
say
so-
maybe
not
necessarily
to
the
beach,
but
you
know
to
me:
a
pedestrian
bridge
connects
the
two
towers.
Let's
say:
okay,
they
could
have
a
stairway
leading
down
to
their
property
without
going
into
the
other
Tower
and
that's
the
question,
but
to
me
that
would
be
beach
access.
So
are
we
saying
that
it's
going
to
a
just
between
the
two
towers,
or
can
they
at
some
point,
do
this
additional
modification
without
letting
us
know
I,
don't.
I
O
A
P
A
You
say
I
just
want
to
make
I
I,
don't
like
this
idea
of
you
know:
property
after
property.
Coming
back
to
us,
asking
us
for
pedestrian
bridges.
You
know,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
a
pedestrian
bridge
that
is
connecting
to
properties.
And
it's
not.
You
know
geared
to
getting
people
who
are
using
the
sidewalk
to
use
a
stairway
to
get
to
the
bridge.
A
A
A
J
Okay,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
your
question
about
the
now
this.
This
is
actually
going
to
be
on
the
east
side
of
the
road.
So
from
my
thoughts
about
the
original
plan
that
came
to
me
when
I
was
on
CD
B
was
they
were.
It
was
an
endpoint
on
the
beach
walk
to
go
into
their
hotel,
so
people
can
go
in
and
out.
Is
that
correct
from
Beach
walk
sure
the.
J
A
D
Authorized
straight
in
of
2012
case
back
old
gene
39:24
to
Trek
her
group
of
Tampa
Florida,
or
they
offered
about
the
twenty
six
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
in
accordance
with
Florida
Code
of
Ordinances,
section
262
for
exceptions
to
auction
sale,
bidding
procedures
and
authorized
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute,
say.
Mister
cogsa,
good.
R
Morning,
Perry,
Collins
and
fleet
manager,
the
case
back
home
listed
below,
was
designated
to
be
replaced
by
an
October
third
Council
approval
and
then
be
declared
surplus
for
auction
at
a
later
date.
During
the
quotation
process
were
a
new
backhoe,
the
vendor
offered
a
trading
value
of
twenty
six
thousand
five
hundred
dollars.
The
average
is
around
17,000
at
auction.
Council
authorization
for
trading
of
G
392
for
is
requested
any.
B
A
B
D
Approve
a
purchase
order
to
Pinellas
County
Solid
Waste
for
an
operating
expenditure
not
to
exceed
four
million
dollars
for
the
disposal
of
solid
waste
at
the
Pinellas
County
waste-to-energy
plant
landfill
for
the
period
of
October
1
2019
through
September
30th
2020,
as
provided
in
the
Florida
Code
of
Ordinances,
section
2.56
for
1d
services
provided
by
other
governmental
entities
and
authorized
your
turbine
officials
to
execute
same
mr.
Johnson
of.
S
The
morning's
mayor
council,
the
item
before
you,
provides
for
solid
waste
disposal,
empanada
skellies
waste
to
energy
plant
and
landfill.
These
funds
represent
a
small
increase
over
FY
18
19
to
accommodate
the
6%
increase
recently
approved
by
the
county
and
their
disposal
fees,
as
well
as
an
anticipated
increase
in
disposal.
Tonnage
staff
recommends
approval
questions
any.
D
Approve
award
of
invitation
to
bid
55
19
for
the
purchase
and
installation
of
onboard
tractor
and
trailer
weighing
systems
from
Tampa
crane
and
by
the
acquisition
LLC
in
the
amount
of
one
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
seven
hundred
dollars
in
authorized
a
or
corporate
officials
that
execute
savings.
That's
gonna
get.
S
Ron
Johnson
assistant
directors
on
my
channel
sources
are
neglected
to
say
that
before
the
item
before
you
provides
for
the
procurement
of
an
onboard
tractor
and
trailer
weighing
system,
this
system
allows
the
city's
new
transfer
station
to
operate
at
maximum
efficiency
by
providing
the
drivers
and
crane
operators
with
real-time
load
weights.
This
information
will
allow
solloway
staff
to
prevent
dangerous
and
illegal
overloading
of
trailers
and
will
also
avoid
wasted
resources
resulting
from
under
loading
staff
recommends
you,
okay,
any.
S
Correct
we
have
inbound
and
outbound
in
ground
scales
that
are
part
of
the
system.
This
item
provides
scales
built
into
the
vehicles
themselves
into
the
tractor
and
the
trailer
so
that,
as
it
is
being
loaded,
we
have
real-time
load
weights
that
just
there's
a
display
in
the
cab
for
the
driver
to
see
and
a
wall-mounted
display
for
the
crane
operator
to
see.
So
they
can
monitor
real-time
load
Lakes
into
the
trailer
as
it's
being
loaded.
Q
0.2
members,
the
municipal
code
enforcement
for
returns,
expire,
October,
31st,
2022,
Council
members
in
your
agenda
pack,
you
have
applications
for
Greg,
Brown
and
Carrie
fuller.
Mr.
Engel
is
interested
in
being
reappointed
he's
currently
serving
his
first
term
as
mr.
Menino
is
also
interested
in
being
reappointed
and
he's
currently
filling
an
unexpired
term.
Both
are
eligible
to
be
reappointed.
Q
Q
F
A
Q
Point
one
member
to
the
public
art
and
design
board
as
a
citizen
representatives
to
fill
the
remainder
of
an
unexpired
term,
April
30,
2021,
council
members
in
your
agenda
pack,
you
have
applications
for
Jonathan,
Barnes
and
Meg
Taylor,
both
are
interested
in
serving
miss
Cunningham
has
resigned.
So
that
is
a
reason
for
the
appointment.
Mr.
Barnes,
from
what
I
understand
mr.
Hobart
has
explained
to
me
that
he
would
be
an
interesting
appointment
just
for
your
consideration
only
because
of
his
art
background.
He
has
extensive
art
background.
So
there
are
any
questions,
but.
Q
Q
F
T
Q
Q
A
A
Q
Clearwater
Kota
boards
is
section
two
point:
zero,
eight
changing
the
composition
of
the
air
park
advisory
board
to
allow
ex
officio
members
and
pass
ordinance,
9350
19
on
first
reading,
council
members,
the
air
perk
advisory
board
in
the
past,
used
to
have
ex
officio
members,
and
then
that
was
that
membership
was
deleted
from
the
code
and
speaking
with
staff.
They
would
like
the
opportunity
with
changes
coming
up.
If
there
is
a
need
for
technical
expertise,
that's
not
available
locally
or
on
the
board
itself
that
there
are
permitted
to
appoint
an
ex
officio
member.
Q
Q
Immensity
Council
policies
to
to
the
Audit
Committee
3:7
information
available
to
the
public
and
press
and
5-14
welcome
letters
and
ad
city
council
policies,
6
to
brick,
streets
and
8
5
renaming
city
parks
in
your
agenda
packs
Council
I
had
copies
of
the
changes
that
are
being
implemented
so
for
the
policy
to
to
audit
committee.
That
was
due
to
a
recent
legislative
changes
that
it's
requiring
the
audit
selection
committee
and
Miss
Yvonne.
Taylor
is
here.
If
you
have
any
questions
directed
to
that
specific
change,
no
policy,
3
7
information
available
to
the
public
and
press.
Q
This
language
has
been
in
for
quite
some
time
but
due
to
technology
and
how
we
actually
do
the
work.
The
information
available
to
the
president
to
the
public
can
either
go
from
my
office
from
public
communications
or
directly
from
the
city
manager
or
the
City
Attorney's
staff,
so
we're
just
trying
to
clean
up
the
language
so
that
it
reflects
what
we're
currently
doing.
Q
Policy
514
welcome
letters.
This
is
another
policy.
That's
been
around
for
quite
some
time
due
to
some
changes,
particularly
like
the
bigger
annexation
changes
planning
has
automatically
included
a
letter
welcoming
the
residents,
and
so
this
language
is
reflecting
that
change
that
work.
That
planning
is
providing
that
information.
The
Welcome
packets,
welcoming
residents
into
the
city
limits
council.
A
Didn't
this
had
been
on
there
to
be
honest
with
you,
it's
sort
of
I'd
slept
by
me
and
then
I
noticed
it
one
day
and
I
started
signing
letters
and
and
then
it
stopped
again
you
know,
and
so
I'm,
not
exactly
sure.
You
know
how
this
ought
to
be
done.
I
I
believe
it's
the
council
that
approves
the
annexation.
Q
A
The
law
ought
to
be
from
the
city
and
the
council
from
the
city
and
I
think
the
council
represents
that
more
than
the
planning
Department.
So
it's
not
that
big
of
a
deal
to
sign
the
letters
I,
don't
know
why
we're
done
and
and
then
it
started,
and
then
it
stopped
again
so
I
I
mean
I'm,
not
exactly
sure
signing
a
letter.
That's
already
prepared
is
not
that
big
of
a
deal
yeah,
okay,.
Q
A
Q
Q
One,
so
it's
just
easier
for
them
to
just
go
ahead
and
get
it
all,
but
I
will
get
lou
cranek
stuck
on
a
problem
all
right,
so
brick
straits
policy.
Six
to
council
members
back
in
2015,
you
adopted
a
policy
regarding
the
implement
the
installation
of
brick
streets
within
city
limits
and
approve.
The
policy
engineering
had
adopted
the
policy,
but
it
was
never
memorializing
City
Council
policies.
So
this
is
just
the
policy
that
you
had
adopted
back
in
2015,
but
we're
actually
including
it
in
City
Council
policies.
F
U
F
D
F
That
I
think
to
doing
a
whole
neighborhood
I
think
that
neighborhood
needs
to
get
a
lot
more
than
51%
buy-in
I.
You
know
before
you're,
going
to
okay,
we're
gonna,
do
this
and
assess
properties.
The
cost
of
the
additional
cost
of
doing
this
I
think
the
threshold
needs
to
be
definitely
higher
than
51%.
F
C
F
You
know,
I
mean
you're,
talking
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
per
homeowner
to
do
this
type
of
thing
in
an
assessment,
and
you
know
for
all
of
them
to
agree
I,
don't
think
51%
should
be
able
to
tell
the
other
49
you're
gonna
pay
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
when
they're
not
interested
in
doing
it.
I
think
you
need
a
much
higher
threshold.
A
T
Sir,
the
way
it's
currently
written
is
it's
fifty
one
percent
of
the
property
frontage,
not
necessarily
the
owners
or
the
property
owners,
so
you're,
looking
at
51%
of
the
frontage.
So
if
someone
has
all
of
one
street
that
still
you
count
their
frontage,
not
the
number
of
people
voting.
So
if
someone
owns
a
fifty
foot
lot
and
someone
else,
it's
two
hundred
foot
lot,
you're,
not
looking.
You
may
have
more
50-foot
Lots
vote
against
it,
but
if
the
larger
Lots
vote
for
it
you're
looking
at
frontage.
T
Q
Policy
8/5
renaming
city
parks
councilmembers.
The
policy
already
currently
exists.
It
was
adopted
back
in
2009
by
resolution,
I'm
just
memorializing
it
in
City
Council
policies.
Given
with
recent
change
staff
changes,
it
gets
difficult.
Sometimes
people
don't
forget,
so
it
was
just
easier
to
keep
it.
There.
V
A
Q
As
2020
state
legislative
priorities,
council
members
I've
provided
a
copy
of
the
legislative
agenda
that
I
will
work
with
staff,
as
well
as
our
state
lobbying
team
to
make
sure
that
they
are
being
advocating
on
our
behalf
during
the
state
session
the
I'm
going
to
go
over
some
of
the
changes
from
last
year.
The
first
bullet
provide
full
funding,
the
florida
state
and
housing
local
trust
funds.
I've
added
the
following
language
and
ensure
those
funds
be
is
exclusively
for
housing,
knowing
that
they
do
rate
the
trust
fund
for
other
programs.
Q
This
way
there
are
some
language
that
not
only
do
we
want
the
full
funding,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
used
strictly
for
housing.
The
other
items
that
I've
added
are
established
a
framework
for
a
state
water
in
structure
and
water
quality
funding
program
that
includes
sustainable
utility
practices.
An
intergovernmental
coordination
allowed
municipalities
to
establish
smoke-free
zones
within
the
boundaries
of
a
city
park
there.
Q
There
was
legislation
during
the
last
session
and
it
has
been
filed
again
and
given
the
changes
that
we're
looking
at
over
at
coachmen
Park,
but
it
would
actually
allow
us
to
designate
areas
or
smoke-free
zones
in
any
city-owned
park.
If
the
legislation
passes,
it's
about
funding
opportunities
to
coordinate
state
resiliency
programs
with
those
of
local
governments.
Are
there
any
questions.
Those
are
the
changes
that
that
weed
staff
is
recommending.
A
F
There's
no
I,
don't
believe
there's
any
legislation
being
introduced
in
Tallahassee
I
would
almost
add
to
our
bullet
list
to
support,
and
then
we
need
to
start
communicating
with
our
local
election
delegation.
I
would
like
to
see
some
changes
made
at
the
state
level
that
takes
that
will
give
local
municipalities
home
rule
over
its
local
waterways.
Talking
about
the
derelict
boats
that
are.
F
Q
I
have
with
staff
I
think
it
was
Mike.
We
know.
Legal
stuff
has
informed
me
about
some
legislation.
I've
already
approached
our
state
lobbyists
regarding
the
possibility
of
including
the
Mandalay
channel
as
part
of
some
legislation
that
would
address
that
issue
right
now,
we're
just
I'm
waiting
for
her
feedback
and
I'm
waiting
for
some
specific
feedback
to
see
if
the
Mandalay
channel
is
actually
permitted.
If
it's
narrow
enough
for
us
to
be
included
in
that
legislation.
F
A
V
Q
Oh
I'll
add
a
bullet
as
well
for
Thursday's
consideration
unrelated
to
the
legislative
package.
I've
also
been
approached
by
Claire
water
and
amplified
clear
water
or
amplify
clear
water.
Sorry
about
that
regarding,
they
would
are
interested
in
hosting
a
clear
water
day
up
in
Tallahassee
December
wait.
A
F
Q
C
Having
served
on
the
homeless
leadership
board,
I
mean
they
continually
do
it
and,
of
course
we
can't
dictate
what's
going
to
happen,
a
state
or
federal
level,
but
they
continually
read
the
Sadowski
act.
Take
away
housing
funds
I
mean
that
in
the
past
has
been
I
think
been
somewhere
on
the
legislative
design.
Q
A
G
T
Legal
services
agreement
with
JJ
no
Esquire
excuse
me:
Trask
Daniel,
LLP,
for
representation
of
the
Community
Development
Board,
building
and
flood
board
of
adjustment
and
appeals,
nuisance
abatement
board
and
authorized
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
Singh.
Mr.
Daniel
currently
represents
this
boards.
He
has
been
representing
them
for
a
number
of
years.
Now
we're
renewing
that
agreement.
He
also
asked
for
a
$10
increase
per
hour
to
his
rate,
which
I
think
is
extremely
reasonable,
given
out
his
rate
is.
W
W
W
Think
easy
to
forget
about,
as
we
march,
towards
getting
under
construction
with
the
the
waterfront
downtown
property.
But
that
is
that
we
are
nearing
the
tail
end
of
the
north
marina
redevelopment
project,
and
I
would
actually
like
to
this.
Project
has
turned
out
extremely
well
to
the
credit
of
Tom,
Mahoney
and
engineering
and
in
chess
team
director
of
marine
and
aviation,
and
so
I
would
like
for
Tom
and
Ed
to
come
up
and
kind
of
give
you
a
current
status
of
where
we
are
with
that
and
some
of
the
timing.
L
Lorna
castle
tom
Maloney
engineering,
so
we
started
this
project
back
in
march
of
this
year
and
it's
it's
pretty
much.
Wrapping
up
now
we're
ahead
of
schedule.
There
was
a
considerable
upgrades
in
the
parking
parking
lot.
There
was
a
additional
parking
added
with
stormwater
upgrades
for
water
quality.
Right
now,
all
the
paving
landscaping
has
been
completed.
We
there
was
an
upgrade
in
the
lighting
for
for
the
entire
lot.
L
Furnishings
are
ordered
and
all
the
way
we're
here
to
be
installed,
we'll
be
bringing
the
restroom
contract
to
you
at
the
next
meeting
that
will
construct
the
permanent
elevator
restrooms
that
vo
right
next
to
the
slips
and
then
at
Chesney
is
gonna
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
day,
Doc's
going
in,
and
also
the
kayak
launch.
Attorneys
question
is,
if.
B
X
Got
that
in
my
head,
I
just
want
to
start
out
to
talk
about
how
smoothly
this
project
has
transpired.
You
know
we
entered
this
at
a
time
where
it
took
over
the
whole
boating
season.
Had
we
started
it
now,
it
could
have
affected
two
boating
seasons,
and
that
was
a
concern,
so
we're
gonna
finish
early
and
when
we
got
the
contract
with
Nelson.
One
of
the
things
that
I
really
wanted
to
do
for
the
community
was
not
to
close
down
the
ramps
and
and
I
would
always
tell
everybody.
X
When
we
give
a
water
construction
contract,
they
are
in
control
of
the
site.
They
really
worked
with
the
city
to
keep
the
ramps
open
with
really
little
conflict
at
first
it
was
a
little
dicey,
but
as
it
as
people
realized
that
this
soon
would
pass
it.
It
really
worked
out.
Well,
so
I
want
to
give
credit
to
engineering
their
inspectors
that
were
out
there,
tom
and
even
the
users
of
the
ramp
that
that
really
helped
to
make
that
that
happened
so
also
at
the
same
time,
you
know
people
always
wondering.
X
Okay,
when
is
this
project
going
to
be
complete?
Well,
it
was
always
envisioned
as
three
phases:
three
separately
bidded
phases-
phase
one
is
basically
complete.
As
Tom
said,
phase
two
will
come
to
you
for
the
restroom
and
then
Phase
three
were
these
floating
docks.
Now
we
had
run
into
some
issues
with
submerged
land
ownership
during
that
permitting
so
we've
paused
on
that
that
is
nearing
completion.
These
the
ownership
issue
and
how
we're
gonna
address
that
the
permitting
to
to
the
state
and
to
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers.
The
package
is
pretty
much
ready.
X
We're
gonna
have
to
update
it
and
do
some
things
we
submitted
it.
We
had
to
pull
it
back
because
of
time.
You
can't
have
those
applications
just
sitting
there,
so
we
will
resubmit
once
we
get
the
submerged
ownership
piece
under
control.
Legal
is
working
on
that
right
now
and
the
that's
part.
That's
the
first
of
the
water
other
water
access.
We
have
kayak
launch
a
beach
there
that
we're
going
to
turn
into
a
kayak
launch,
and
these
boats
slips
actually
protect
the
kayakers
as
they
go
out.
So
I
really
don't
see
that
being
too
open.
X
You
know
before
the
the
slips
are
and
now
people
can
go
down
there
and
launch
a
kayak
when
they
want,
but
but
we're
actually
going
to
put
the
floating
docks
there,
that
when
you
go
out
you'll
be
directed
towards
the
west
and
to
the
north
we
don't
want
conflicts
with
the
boats
coming
into
the
ramp.
The
kayak
sweep
the
kayak
conflict.
That
was
an
issue
with
the
downtown
marina
bringing
kayaks
downtown.
So
the
design
was
for
the
the
slips
that
added
slips.
X
F
A
W
Always
hard
to
know
what
goes
on
behind
the
scenes,
but
I'll
tell
you.
This
project
is,
is
better
than
we
started
out,
anticipating
that
it
would
be
in
large
part
to
Tom
and
Ed's
diligence
and
some
support
from
legal
on
some
of
the
ownership
issues
with
the
so
I
think
you
know
we're
going
to
be
in
a
position
to
exceed
expectations
when
this
project
is
completely
done.
The
only
way
to
turn
this
home
run
into
a
grand
slam.
W
This
is
may
be
through
some
conversations
we'll
have
with
you
next
year
and
the
budget
process,
where
we're
going
with
the
Fort
Harrison
Street,
complete,
Street,
redo
and
and
some
of
the
trail
improvements
and
connections
which
really
constitute
a
much
less
expensive,
but
nevertheless
important
component
to
the
second
phase
of
the
north
marina,
but
by
then
we'll
be
well
under
construction
with
the
downtown
area.
So
we
move
on
to
the
next
item
the
North
Ward
School,
where
we
are
we've
met
with
the
architects.
W
We
have
seen
and
reviewed
a
number
of
concepts
for
the
facility
and
the
opportunity
for
renovation
of
the
building
for
mixed-use.
It
could
include
some
restaurants,
kind
of
a
food
hall
type
of
scenario,
some
meeting
hall
and
space
where
the
community
up
there,
art
makerspace,
possibly
on
the
second
floor
and
as
you're
aware
the
there's
a
theater
up
there,
so
certainly
that
that
area
is
conducive
to
some.
W
Some
arts
activities,
really
a
good
multi-use
space
and
as
well
as
some
opportunity,
possibly
to
markets
and
some
limit
amount
of
office
space
in
the
facility
looks
like
the
site
and
accommodate
a
small
boutique
hotel
or
some
other
limited
residential
use
on
the
property.
So
I
think
we've
got
an
opportunity
to
market
that
there.
W
What
I
think
we
may
find
and
we'll
bring
back
to
you
for
a
little
deeper
discussion
is
what
renovations
we
may
want
to
initiate
on
our
own
to
kind
of
prepare
the
building
for
marketing
for
some
of
these
other
activities.
If
you
are
familiar
at
all
with
the
the
food
halls
in
the
area
of
waterworks
in
Tampa
they're
along
the
river,
you
know
there
was
a
lot
of
renovation
and
preparation
that
site
I.
W
Remember
the
first
time
I
saw
that
there
was
one
small
meeting
room
with
the
rest
of
the
building
was
pretty
much
unfinished
and
just
empty,
but
I
think
they
prepared
the
building.
They
got
the
building,
so
it
was
ready
to
go.
They
could
then
attract
tenants
and
users.
We
were
already
generating
some
interest
from
the
community
out
there
for
some
restaurants
and
other
uses
on
the
property,
so
I
think
that's
the
kind
of
bodes
well
for
for
that
and
we'll
bring
you
those
details.
W
W
One
of
the
things
that
I
think
this,
the
some
of
the
scenarios
we've
seen
is
it
kind
of
reorients,
the
back
of
house
to
be
a
much
more
of
a
front
door
in
a
public
space
and
use
area.
Outdoors
patio
example
off
of
maybe
potentially
a
food
hall
facing
to
the
west
and
the
waterfront
in
the
marina
area,
and
really
doing
more
to
try
to
tie
that
building
into
the
marina,
even
as
it
keeps
a
front
door
in
courtyard
facing
Fort
Harrison.
So
I
think
my
main
takeaway
to
you
right
now
is
that
this.
W
The
economic
analysis
HR
na
is
very
close
to
finishing
that
work.
We
should
have
not
you
know,
probably
within
the
next
week
or
so
I
would
anticipate
they've
done
some
conceptual
site,
renderings
of
all
the
bluff
properties.
So
pretty
much
you
know,
we've
talked
about
those
in
some
of
our
one-on-one
meetings
as
well
as
publicly
on
several
occasions.
W
You
know
our
what
we
our
objectives
will
continue
to
remain
in
focus
in
terms
of
creating
value,
downtown
and
and
trying
to
capture
that
value
in
a
way
that
will
encourage
private
sector
economic
development,
which
is
really
not
where
we're
being
terribly
successful
at
the
moment.
So
I
think
you
know
this
will
start
to
pull
that
together,
along
with
the
the
development
of
the
park
itself,
the
marketing
of
the
upland
properties,
the
current
value,
our
picture
of
our
economic
status.
So
you
know
we'll
need
to
talk
about
that
more
all.
W
This
will
be
done
and
wrapped
up
kind
of
the
end
before
the
end
of
this
year.
So
this
is
a.
This
is
a
what
will
kind
of
be
ending.
Our
conversations
for
2019
on
library,
enhancement
talked
to
Williamson
Dakar.
Last
week
they
still
anticipate
concluding
the
the
permit
drawings
in
January,
and
we
will
get
the
project
you
know
is
submitted
for
permit
as
quickly
as
possible
in
the
first
quarter
of
2020.
W
So
hopefully
we
can
will
certainly
be
under
construction
with
that
I
think
we'll
have
a
construction
manager
on
board
very
soon.
Who
will
help
us
to
manage
that
process
along
with
the
the
upcoming
Park
redevelopment
itself,
so
that
project
is
is
doing
well.
We
presented
this
to
the
entire
library
staff.
We've
had
some
posters
as
a
place
up
in
the
library
lobby
kind
of
making
everybody
aware
when
we
go
out
to
the
the
public
meetings.
W
It's
as
you
would
expect,
and
we
should
expect
for
the
amount
of
costs
of
doing
that.
We
are
going
to
have
a
really
I
think
an
incredible
public
space,
extraordinarily
usable,
an
attractive
space
at
the
top
of
library.
When
we're
done
so,
hopefully,
we
can
show
that
to
the
community
when
they
come
out
of
our
public
meetings,
we'll
go
over
the
dates
with
those
here
in
in
just
a
few
minutes.
The
bridge
lighting
project,
our
consultant
actually
now
is
a
member
of
the
team
of
Lochner,
the
original
consultant
with
the
FDOT
background
or
work
experience.
W
So
they
are
have
the
work
order
to
work
on
the
final
design
and
construction
of
the.
What
the
bridge
lighting
is
going
to
look
like
the
that
design
has
to
come
back
to
you
for
your
approval
before
we
can
make
application
to
F
Dios
FDOT,
so
probably
late
spring
early
summer,
we'll
be
getting
that
to
you.
W
We'll
get
that
back
to
you
for
your
approval,
so
that
we
can
will
immediately
be
ready
to
roll
that
into
an
application
with
d-o-t
and
so
we'll
we'll
start
to
have
more
specifics
on
the
design,
the
cost
of
the
inflammation
and
implementation
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
that
leads
me
to
Costa
in
part
free
development.
30%
plans
are
submitted
under
review
by
staff.
W
You
are
going
to
be
seeing
I
think
this
week,
3d
presentation
from
the
H
RNA
folks
as
to
what
the
park
and
looks
like
you'll
be
able
to
walk
through
different
view,
areas
and
quarters
and
angles
from
the
bridge
and
anywhere
in
the
park
that
you
want
to
see
it
from.
You
can
just
tell
them
and
they
can
kind
of
take
you
there
and
give
you
a
sense
of
what
that
looks
like
in.
In
total
they
can
turn
on
and
off
the
the
covered
seating
area.
W
W
We
are
currently
vast
staff
to
take
a
look
at
and
we
are
working
on
a
complete
list
of
the
assessment
of
the
current
and
it's
anticipated
use
for
the
park
and
amphitheater
we're
gonna
discuss
this
with
you
in
more
detail
at
the
second
meeting
in
November
or
the
1st
December
meeting.
There
are
management
and
fiscal
implications.
W
You
know
use
impact
days,
so
I
think
you
know
we
want
to
talk
through
that
with
you.
We
want
to
talk
about.
We
need
to
revisit.
We've
had
some
of
this
information
provided
in
the
past,
but
the
number
of
FTEs
required
for
a
facility
of
this
size.
What
that
means
to
us
and
we've
probably
also
some
of
our
partners,
who
have
expressed
the
greatest
interest
in
using
this
facility.
W
As
you
know,
to
tell
you,
there's
no
there's,
no
participation
there
in
capital
cost,
but
you
know
I
think
we
would,
at
this
point
from
a
staff
standpoint,
have
an
end
anticipation
that
you
would
want
to
recover
operational
cost
when
we,
when
we
lease
out
this
facility
for
use
by
others,
and
so
there
are
no
assurances
that
we
have
in
terms
of
the
level
of
use
that
these
partners
want
to
bring
to
the
table.
So
this
is
specular
torii
at
this
point,
but
are
speculative
that
we
want
to.
W
W
2000
is
hesitant
to
say
too
much
about
the
timing,
because
so
many
things
are
flexible
and
changeable
in
that
area,
but
I
think
they're
really
trying
to
look
at
for
me
till
these
standpoint,
things
that
we
can
get
started
on
a
little
sooner
rather
than
later,
but
but
generally
the
target
is,
is
for
the
completion
of
those
plans
by
May.
20
20
is
where
we
are.
Currently
it's
not
really
changed.
W
The
park
for
board
I
think
has
completed
the
review
of
the
park
renaming
and
recommended
approval,
or
are
they're
getting
ready
to
at
that
meeting.
So
I,
don't
know
it's
Kevin
tomorrow
tomorrow,
so
we'll
have
that
we'll
know
that
by
Thursday
night,
that's
it
any
questions.
Otherwise,
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
at
the
moment
and
we'll
have
I,
expect
much
more
detail
on
the
use
of
the
venue
at
the
next
meeting
or
two
as
well
as
some
other
items.
F
F
A
50
100
year,
thank
you
yeah.
Let
me
check
it.
Ok,
let
me
you
know:
I
can't
help
myself,
but
throwing
out
a
thank
you
to
the
school
board
and
dr.
Greco
for
working
with
us
on
the
north
war
and
the
Clearwater
high
school
project.
You
know
when
we
first
started
talking
about
this
downtown
redevelopment.
I
had
suggested
that
we
include
the
North
marina
district
because
I
felt
like
if
we
could
do
something
there.
It
may
help
us
in
our
downtown
work
and
the
school
board.
A
You
know
had
this
property
and
they
were
willing
to
work
with
us
and
what
you're
saying
about
the
interest
there
I
think
just
reiterates
and
strengthens
the
argument
that
we've
had
in
that.
You
know
there
is
some
potential
there
that
has
been
untapped,
since
all
of
us
were
little
kids
growing
up.
You
know
in
Clearwater
and
tarpon,
because
that
North,
marina
district
isn't
is
a
gem
and
it's
just
been
laying
there
to
be
uncovered
and
and
discovered.
A
So
the
school
board
has
given
us
that
opportunity
and
I
just
wanted
to
thank
them
again,
probably
four
for
that
support,
because
if
we
get
this
done,
it's
gonna
help
us
everything
else
that
we're
trying
to
do.
Thank
You
mr.
Nunez,
as
mr.
Hamilton
said,
having
these
updates
from
you
on
a
regular
basis,
as
has
been
most
beneficial
for
all
of
us,
and
if
I'm.
W
W
W
J
U
V
J
Y
C
Mr.
Doug
Oh
have
we
considered
just
for
I,
don't
know,
maybe
a
wider
audience
captured
attendance
group
of
st.
the
community
library
at
st.
Pete
College
for
one
of
the
presentations
I
mean
you
have
we've
been
trying
to
engage
young
people
and
it
may
be
if
it's
all
posted
there.
They
were
my.
W
B
A
Z
Morning,
mayor
and
council
today
we
are
here
to
discuss
salary
for
the
city,
manager
and
city
attorney
positions
at
the
October
3rd
to
2019
council
meeting.
The
council
review
the
performance
evaluation
of
both
of
those
positions,
and
it's
typical
that
a
subsequent
meeting
that
you
would
discuss
pay
so,
as
was
discussed
at
our
one-on-one
meetings,
the
human
resources
department
has
updated
the
standard
analysis
that's
performed
every
year.
In
regards
to
those
two
positions.
We
provided
traditional
jurisdiction
matches
that
include
both
county
and
city
matches,
I'm
gonna
briefly
just
go
through
that
spreadsheet.
Z
That
was
provided
to
you.
I'm
gonna
start
with
the
city
manager
position
and
go
through
all
that,
and
then
I
will
do
the
same
analysis
for
the
city
attorney
position.
So
in
comparison
of
the
city
manager,
position
to
other
local
jurisdictions
of
similar
size
and
similar
nature,
the
city
manager
position
is
showing
to
be
14.1%
behind
the
market
in
actual
salary.
Z
Using
those
same
comparators,
however,
removing
the
county,
the
county
jurisdictions
from
that
the
city
manager
position
remains
7.3
percent
behind
actual
salaries
for
those
jurisdictions.
We
also
did
a
comparison
for
the
city
manager
position.
Looking
at
similar
sized
cities
across
the
state
of
Florida
in
comparison
for
similar
populations
that
showed
that
the
city
manager
position
is
twelve
point,
six
behind
the
actual
salaries
of
those
jurisdictions.
Z
Additionally,
we
did
a
comparison
for
the
city
manager
position
with
similar
sized
employee
counts,
and
in
that
comparison,
the
city
manager
position
is
5.2
percent
behind
the
market
in
terms
of
actual
salaries,
no
questions
I'm
going
to
move
on
and
go
through
that
same
for
the
city
attorney.
Yes,
sir.
Z
F
In
college
we,
you
would
always
always
heard
the
term
the
curve
wrecker.
Well,
when
you
look
at
Miami
Beach
on
here,
the
Miami
Beach
position
is
a
curve
wrecking
position
300,
it's
a
300
plus
annual
salary,
where
everyone
else
is
in
the
low
twos,
basically
so
that
that
one
position
kind
of
skews
some
of
the
numbers
to
a
degree.
It.
Z
Does
and
so
I
left
that
in
there
just
because
that's
the
one
of
the
jurisdictions
that's
been
on
it
historically,
but
I
had
I
do
have
the
information.
If
you
would
like
to
hear
what
it
is,
if
I
remove
m'dear
I'm
sorry
Miami
Beach.
So
if
you
take
out
the
Miami
Beach
salary
for
the
city
manager
position,
the
actual
salary
is
seven
point:
eight
percent
behind
the
actual
salaries
of
all
those
other
jurisdictions.
Z
So
in
looking
at
the
actual
salary
for
the
city
attorney
for
those
same
jurisdictions
that
are
local
to
us,
the
actual
salary
is
nine
percent
behind
the
market
best
for
both
city
and
counties.
If
we
remove
the
counties
from
that
analysis,
the
actual
salary
is
four
point:
six
percent
behind
the
market
for
actual
salaries.
Z
Then,
if
we
go
by
population
for
around
the
state
for
similar
sized
cities
by
population,
its
11.1%
behind
the
market
for
actual
salaries,
and
then,
if
you
do
the
same
analysis
by
employee
count
for
the
city
attorney
position,
it
is
four
percent
behind
the
market.
Now
I
can
remove
the
Miami
Beach
from
the
city
attorney
analysis
as
well.
A
Can
we
go
back
a
second
because
one
of
your
charges
off
for
the
city
attorney
data
County
jurisdictions?
You
have
campus
population
of
as
1
million
three
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
six
hundred
forty
five
thousand
and
what's
happened?
Is
you
when
you
inputted
the
numbers
of
the
chart,
you
went
Orange
County.
You
gave
the
Tampa
Tampa.
You
gave
the
st.
Petersburg
st.
Petersburg.
You
gave
to
Orlando
and
end
down
so
I.
Don't
know
whether
that
changes
these
numbers.
It.
Z
Z
Yeah
no!
No.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
pointing
that
out.
The
other
information
that
was
provided
to
you
all
was
just
the
historical
annual
salary
increases
that
have
been
provided
for
both
of
those
positions.
A
Just
have
this
discussion
Thursday
night
time,
what
we'll
discuss
it?
Thirty
unless
there's
a
specific
question
on
the
on
the
charge
of
the
information?
Okay!
Great!
Thank
you!
Oh
okay,
I'm
confused!
No
we're
10:30
right,
because
this
clock
has
8:30
here.
Okay,
twelve
point
eleven
point:
two
mr.
Pogue.
Ladies
thank.
C
You
Mary
counsel,
I
wanted
to
have
a
public
discussion
with
you
and
in
light
of
the
fact
that
imagine
Clearwater
is,
is
moving
along
nicely.
Thirty
percent
plans
going
to
be
reviewed
and
shown
to
the
public
talking
about
the
park,
parking
garage
and
and
the
needs
of
the
future
of
downtown
I
think
there
was
no
disagreement
that
we
will
need
a
downtown
parking
garage
and
the
reason
I
wanted
to
have
this
and
I
know.
C
C
We
would
like
to
move
that
dialogue
long,
but
talking
about
the
parking
garage
and
in
light
of
the
fact
that,
hopefully,
within
a
year,
we'll
will
have
not
just
one
RFP
coming
back
to
us
with
the
Harborview
site,
but
also
the
City
Hall
site
and
the
site
south
of
that
known
as
the
cma
property.
So
I
wanted
to
have
I
want
to
have
a
public
conversation.
I
wanted
to
be
more
proactive
than
reactive
and
CIA.
C
We
you
know
we're
we're
going
to
need,
and-
and
it
was
also
shared
with
me
that
it's
it's
kind
of
like
a
living
breathing
document.
It'll
change
as
we're
successful
at
as
a
deficit
occurs
in
Parkington.
We
need
more
that
we
could
address
it
then,
but
I
thought
some
key
things
were
were
important
to
discuss
at
least
now
that
we're
moving
forward
and
that
we're
going
to
be
losing
some
parking
we're
going
to
lose
the
cm
a
lot,
hopefully
within
the
year
two
years
and
we're
going
to
be
losing
the
City
Hall
a
lot.
C
So
that
takes
quite
a
few
parking
spots,
just
write
off
immediately.
So
what
I
wanted
to
do
was
I
think
it's
kind
of
important
and
I
wanted
to
see
how
you
you
guys
felt
about
at
least
do
we
still
have
the
preferred
site
what
would
be
a
time
frame
in
light
of
the
fact
we're
going
to
be
losing
spots
sooner
rather
than
later?
C
How
many
is
the
parking
analysis
correct
and
it
all
goes
back
to
being
proactive
instead
of
reactive
and
having
a
plan?
That's
complementary
to
what
we're
doing,
and
the
only
thing
I
wanted
to
highlight
just
about
three
different
points
on
this
parking
study
and
I
know:
we've
been
over
it
multiple
times
and
staff
spent
over
it,
but
I
still
have
questions
and
I
know.
Many
in
the
private
sector
still
have
questions
in,
for
instance,
under
the
executive
summary
event,
parking
demand
analysis.
C
It
says
that,
because
we're
still
going
to
be
doing
events
even
when
construction
starts,
that
clear
water
is
going
to
displace
city-owned
parking
facilities,
totaling
692
spots
within
the
parking
analysis,
I
still
wasn't
clear
on
which
of
those
six
city
facilities
are
going
away,
and
then,
within
that
study
also,
there
was
no.
Where
could
I
find
the
city
hall
and
the
CMA
parking
spaces?
They
were
not
counted
in
the
total
number
of
displaced
parking
yet
were
using
them
now
and
and
then
in
addition
to
that
page,
eighteen
future
parking
demand.
C
It
states
that
there
are
only
twelve
thousand
eight
hundred
and
fifty
square
feet
of
vacant.
Restaurant
space
I'd
like
to
have
identified
the
exact
restaurant
spaces
that
are
vacant
and
what
is
the
restaurant
industry
parking
demand
for
every
thousand
square
feet
of
occupied
restaurant
page
20
within
the
parking
study
and
I?
Don't
really
expect
the
answers
today.
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
this
to
my
colleagues
and
let
staff
look
at
this
again
on
page
20.
C
It
shows
in
Figure
13
how
phase
1
and
2,
because
I
remember
when
Michael
Dell
came
on
board,
we're
going
to
phase
this,
but
in
phase
1
and
2.
How
is
that
going
to
affect
the
available
parking?
Didn't
the
scope
of
phase
1
change
and
will
that
displacement
of
the
City
Hall
and
the
CM
a
site
parking
expedite
the
parking
deficit
that
is
reflected
in
table
page
4
table
19?
C
Excuse
me
page
19,
table
4,
so
I
think
having
that
discussion
and
identifying
where
it's
going
to
be,
how
big
is
it
going
to
be
more
accurately
as
opposed
to
a
living
breathing
document?
Well,
typically,
it's
504
more
successful
I
think
the
number
is
actually
far
greater
than
the
number
we
we
lost
and
if
we're
only
successful
enough
to
get
500
new
parking
spots,
then
I
think
we're
not
being
very
optimistic
and
hoping
for
a
bigger
success.
Within
this
this
project
and
everything
we're
doing
downtown
so
question
1.
C
A
J
Okay,
I
think
that's
a
great
idea
being
more
proactive
than
reactive
on
this
I
mean
something
we've
been
talking
about
for
a
long
time,
I'm
knowing
that
imagine,
Clearwater
was
going
to
take
place
and
all
the
parking
we're
losing
there.
We
had
a
parking
study.
I
know
that
we
do
have
preferred
parking
sites,
but
we
really
haven't
had
that
conversation
on
council
yet
and
I
think
it's
a
good
time
to
have
it
with
the
conversation
about
where
City
Hall
is
going
to
be.
J
That
vein
kind
of
fits
together
to
me
that
we
should
be
having
both
that
conversation
and
we
should
be
looking
at
the
future
B,
because
I
do
agree
that
we
are
going
to
be
successful.
Downtown
I
still
have
that
in
my
heart
you
know,
I'll
say
it
again.
I
remember
growing
up
here
in
downtown
Clearwater
as
a
child.
J
I
was
very
proud,
which
is
odd,
to
say,
because
kids
are
easily
proud
of
their
city,
that
we
had
such
a
vibrant
city
here
and
I
know
it
can
happen
again
and
with
this
you
know,
imagine
clear
water
projects
gonna
bring
in
not
only
downtown
people
but
countryside
and
it's
gonna
be
a
regional
thing.
It's
gonna
be
so
I
see
it
in
my
vision.
I
see
this
actually
happening
and
it's
really
going
to
light
up
our
waterfront.
So,
yes,
I,
don't
want
to
wait
to
the
last
minute.
J
A
N
F
I'm
gonna
come
at
this
from
a
whole
different
way,
because
I
kind
of
instead
of
waiting
on
staff
I
thought
one
of
our
jobs
was
to
give
staff
recommendations
and
give
staff
information
and
our
ideas,
but
I
mean
I'm.
Gonna
I
won't
sugarcoat
it
we're
going
to
need
more
parking
in
downtown
Thor
we've.
Absolutely
nobody.
F
Nobody
can
deny
the
need
for
parking
in
downtown
what's
being
taken
away
as
far
as
location
to
me,
there's
only
one
location,
but
to
make
it
happen,
we've
got
to
finish
negotiations
with
the
PSTA
I,
don't
know
what
the
status
of
that
is.
I,
don't
know
that
there's
an
update
as
of
today
of
that
status,
but
because
I'm,
you
know
where
the
PSTA
bus
terminal
in
downtown
Clearwater
is
today.
F
If
you
take
that
location
and
you
build
a
parking
garage
on
that
location,
size
to
be
determined,
but
I
don't
disagree
with
you
that
500
might
not
be
enough.
I'm,
not
someone.
Who's
gonna
think
that
our
parking
needs
are
going
to
diminish
overnight,
due
to
alternate
alternative
transportation
and
everything
else.
F
It's
all
those
all
things
coming
in
the
future,
but
I
think
it
needs
to
be
more
than
500
and
that
location
is
a
two
block,
walk
to
anything
and
everything
in
downtown's
the
water,
so
I
would
challenge
anybody
to
show
me
a
better
physical
location
for
that
use
for
that
need.
So
that
being
said,
we're
not
we're
not
ready
to
make
any
decisions
or
like
that,
but
it's
something
for
us
to
move
forward
on
now
and
then
the
question
becomes
after
you.
F
If
you
build
it,
if
you
build
a
parking
garage
on
there,
do
we
want
to
put
City
Hall
on
top
of
that
as
a
location,
or
do
we
want
to
have
a
free-standing,
City,
Hall
somewhere
else
in
downtown
Clearwater
I,
look
forward
to
that
discussion
at
the
appropriate
times,
I
know.
But
now
you
know
we're
not
here
today
to
discuss
that.
A
I've
got
to
share
some
thoughts
that
all
of
y'all
have
have
mentioned.
You
know,
first
off
we
do
talk
about
alternative
modes
of
transportation
and
trying
to
get
people
to
use
alternative
modes
of
transportation
so
to
build
a
park.
Yet
if
parking
garages
made
money,
we
wouldn't
be
having
this
conversation,
because
the
private
sector
would
be
building
parking
garages,
but
parking
garages
don't
make
money
well,
it
was
mentioned
earlier
today
that
you
know
one
of
our
garages
has
250
vacant
spaces.
A
A
Having
that
discussion
today
is
a
little
bit
too
too
early,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
need
to
get
done
to
make
sure
that
the
parking
garage
has
the
best
usage.
And
you
know
a
lot
of
people
are
gonna.
Disagree
that
a
parking
garage
now
is
not
the
right
time.
You
know
not
the
right
time.
There
are
obvious
several
locations
we
need.
A
A
Still
going
to
be
a
big-ticket
item
and
we
do
need
to,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
do
it
right,
but
there
are
lots
of
locations
out
there.
They've
been
a
de-identified
people
know
where
they
are
and
we'll
just
see
what
happens.
You
know
in
a
year
they're
more.
We
need
to
get
imagine
clear
water
off
the
ground.
The
parking
garage
isn't
the
first
thing
that
we
need
to
be
talking
about.
The
gettin's
get
started.
J
Well,
I
agree
what
you
said,
but
we
do,
it
doesn't
happen
overnight.
So
we
do
need
to
start
talking
about
it
and
not
wait
till
it's
upon
us
that
you
know
we
need
to
be
talking
about
it
and
it's
correct.
We
need
to
have
input
from
staff
and
we
need
to
have
conversation,
but
even
the
conversations
aren't
going
to
happen
in
one
meeting
I
mean
it's
gonna,
be
several
meetings
and
probably
a
pretty
good
amount
of
time.
J
I
can
tell
you
this
I
am
on
the
PSK
board
and
PSTA
is
looking
to
move
to
our
spot
on
the
intermodal
center
that
we
have
had
planned
for
five
or
six
years.
But
again
it's
a
there's.
It's
a
money
situation.
They've
got
to
figure
out
how
they're
getting
funding
right
now
the
plans
of
it
or
being
drawn
so
that
part
of
it
is
moving.
It's
not
that
that
hasn't
we're
not
to
wait
for
that
to
happen,
but
it's
not
something
that
happens
overnight.
J
J
That
happens
with
and
I
thought
I
wasn't
here
to
to
on
council
when
the
council
said
that
is
a
good
site
to
have
for
an
intermodal
center,
which
I
thought
it
is,
and
but
you
know
it's
they've
been
talking
about
it
for
a
long
time
and
it
takes
a
long
time
for
plans
to
happen.
I
mean
just
look
at
do
T
projects,
you
start
talking
about
it.
Now
they
don't
happen
for
10-15
years,
because
design
has
to
happen.
J
A
V
C
And
I
don't
disagree,
but
if
I
could
also
interject,
we
went
through
two
iterations
of
a
parking
study.
It
came
back
and
that's
a
sparse,
we
went,
we
haven't
really
talked
about
it
since
then.
The
agreement
was
that,
yes,
we
do,
we
will
be
needing
a
downtown
parking
garage
and
that's
kind
of
where
we
left
that
the
conversations
have
not
went
further
than
that
and
if
the
key
point
for
me
is
if
we
are
in,
we
do
anticipate
the
rest
of
our
sites
on
the
bluff.
Mr.
C
Delk
even
said
that
all
of
the
bluff
properties
now
have
some
architectural
renderings.
What
possibly
may
be
here
that
we're
going
to
be
seen
at
this
30%?
So
if
we're
pulling
those
two
large
parking
lots
off
the
table
within
even
if
it's
two
to
three
years,
we
really
do
have
to
have
this
more
aggressive
and
I.
Don't
disagree
not
waiting
for
staff
analysis,
but
where
are
these
spots
that
we're
going
to
be
losing
going
to
come
from?
I
wasn't
satisfied
with
the
results
and
the
answers
from
that,
and
so
mr.
C
horn
I
will
give
you
this,
because
there
are
some
questions
on
here
when
we're
done,
but
there's
13,000
square
feet
of
restaurant
space
downtown.
If
that
you
look
at
the
restaurant
formula,
how
many
parking
spots
four
thousand
per
thousand
feet,
there's
not
a
correlation
in
the
numbers
so
I,
just
that's
where
I
brought
the
point
up,
how
big
I
think
we
need
to
get
some
type
of
agreement
or
better
understanding.
We
do
we
agree
on
500,
or
is
that
not
the
appropriate
number.
A
C
A
A
But
you
are
because
we're
you
know,
what's
more
important,
getting
imagine
Clearwater
started
or
spending
hours
talking
about
a
parking
garage
right
now,
the
majority
of
the
year.
There
is
no
problem
in
parking.
It
may
not
be
across
the
street
or
in
front
of
your
restaurants
door,
but
it's
here
it
was
said
earlier.
C
C
The
the
point
is,
if
I
think,
they're
interrelated
conversations
were.
Yes,
we
intend
to
be
very
successful
with
imagine
Clearwater.
We
have
an
RFP
coming
back
for
the
Harborview
site.
All
I'm
saying
is
to
delay
the
conversations
about
where
it's
going
to
be
or
possibly
how
big
it's
going
to
be
and
when
I'm
not
saying
come
up
with
permanent
implants.
C
Just
do
we
still
agree,
that's
going
to
be
the
site
and
do
we
have
a
better
idea,
a
more
accurate
idea
of
how
many
we
may
need,
because
if
we
wait
until
we're
successful,
the
RFP
comes
back,
we've
taken
away
the
Harborview
site
and
the
city
hall
site,
and
we
haven't
had
those
conversations
well
yet
there's
words
going
to
be.
Maybe
this
is
how
big
it's
going
to
be,
but
I
mean
how
do
you
establish
a
time
frame
when
you're
going
to
need
it?
If
you
don't
have
the
conversation,
that's.
C
Present
you
to
wrap
that
up.
I
want
to
add
to
the
fact
that,
even
if
we
don't
put
a
city
hall
on
top
of
this
parking
garage,
there
may
be
development
interest
to
build
residential
on
top
of
this
parking
garage.
So
until
we
have
that
conversation
decide
where
it's
going
to
be,
that
interest
isn't
being
able
to
get
generated
in
the
community
I.
A
I
think
we'll
end
this
conversation
with
this
thought.
Saturday
night,
we
were
at
an
event
at
the
Martin
Luther
King
Center
and
mr.
horn.
You're
gonna
do
a
better
job
of
repeating
what
President
Williams
said
about
having
a
meeting
and
then
you
go
outside
and
have
an
after
meeting
one
or
two,
and
then
somebody
else
has
an
after
after
meeting
and
then
you
come
back
and
have
a
before
meeting
talking
about
what
happened
at
the
after
meeting,
so
that
you're
ready
to
talk
about.
A
What's
gonna
happen
at
the
next
meeting
and
we
can
sit
and
talk
and
talk,
the
point
being
that
you
sit
and
talk
and
talk
and
talk
and
never
walk
the
walk.
Let's
give
our
staff
an
opportunity
to
get
this
project
started.
Let's
give
the
private
sector
that
owns
all
this
property
in
downtown
water,
an
opportunity
to
communicate
to
us
what
they
think
they
need
to
do
with
their
property,
to
help
revitalize
downtown
Clearwater
for
the
betterment
of
the
entire
community.
A
And
then
we
will
be
able
to
make
a
much
more
intelligent
decision
as
to
where
a
parking
garage
should
be
and
whether
we
need
one
garage
or
two
garages
spread
out
to
service
the
entire
downtown.
Because
if
you
build
a
500
parking
garage
in
one
place,
somebody's
going
to
complain
because
it's
not
close
to
them
and
you
may
need
to
250
units
parking
garages.
A
D
Martin
terrific
just
make
one
comment:
I
think
at
least
from
the
staff
perspective
we
know.
All
of
you
are
right
for
a
more
in-depth
conversation
about
City,
Hall
and
parking
garage
and
half
and
how
that
fits.
The
internal
group
is
working
on
how
best
to
provide
you
that
analysis
and
it's
also
the
same
group
that
is
doing
other
priorities
that
you
have
asked
us
to
focus
on,
so
we're
trying
to
move
as
quickly
as
we
can
to
come
back
to
you
with
a
analysis
that
would
then
allow
you
to
kind
of
come
to
some
decisions.
D
You
know
asked
about
as
to
where
you
want
to
go
you're,
not
all
there
completely
on
this
topic.
So
so
that's
another
challenge.
We
have
in
making
sure
that
our
analysis
then
allows
you
to
come
together
on
some
decisions,
but
just
talking
to
all
of
you,
you
know
some
of
you
have
a
preference
over
here,
some
going
to
be
a
preference
over
there,
and
we
know
you
all
have
to
you
all-
have
to
coalesce
around
something
and
we're
gonna
do
Thank.
D
Before
he
makes
a
comment,
can
I
just
make
sermon?
I
just
want
to
point
out
to
all
of
you
because
of
the
significance
of
this
topic
and
the
importance
of
it
not
only
to
councilmember
Allbritton
but
but
but
to
the
staff
as
well.
The
group
that's
sitting
on
the
left
is
staff
who
actually
are
actively
involved
in
the
development
review
activities
from
a
staff
and
administration
perspective.
D
I
felt
this
was
so
important
that
I
wanted
representatives
of
them
because
we
didn't
close
our
offices,
but
we
do
have
a
good
portion
of
the
people
who
are
actually
doing
this
work
to
hear
your
conversation
around
this,
and
so
that's
who's
sitting
there
on
the
left
and
that
way
when
we
move
forward
from
this
conversation,
I
think
you
will
be
helpful
for
us
to
achieve
the
goals
and
expectations
that
you
know,
you're
expressing
and
counsel.
All
Britain
has
expressed
to
me
both
in
conversation
and
in
writing.
B
J
P
J
Business
task
force
that
was
back
in
2011
and
we
had
a
big
group
of
people
that
sat
out
it
was
concerning
to
all
of
them
and
they
were
like
yeah.
We
have
some
issues
that
we
need
to.
So
we
came
up
with
some
ideas
over
a
year
of
meeting
that
we
gave
to
Council
at
the
time
and
we
were
hoping
that
we
could
change
the
system.
J
J
J
They
have
a
lot
of
building
permits
specially
now,
when
the
economy
is
good,
they
try
to
get
these
things
reviewed
and
back
out
in
a
timely
manner,
perhaps
take
a
little
more
time
because
what
happens
is
and
the
for
the
developers
and
people
in
private
enterprise
time
is
money
and
if
they
have
to
submit
a
review
at
six
weeks,
you
Britain
you
come
back
with
comments.
It's
gonna
be
another
six
weeks
to
get
those
comments
and.
J
810
sets
of
plans
redone
and
then
it
goes
on
and
on
and
accumulates
so
what
I
would
suggest
is
and
I've
been
talking
to
Bill
about
this
from
some
time
and
I
said:
look,
can
we
talk
about
this
with
Council
and
maybe
I
would
be
willing
to
sit
down
with
staff
and
come
up?
Maybe
there's
some
ways
that
we
could
come
up
with
this,
where
we
only
review
once
in
a
certain
timeframe.
J
And
also
is
there
something
else
that
could
help
staff
may
be
different?
Maybe
computer
programs
I
know
that
these
big
developers
come
in
with
a
stack
of
plans.
I
mean
big
plans,
big
rolls
and
stacks
of
paper.
For
let's
say
a
hotel
and
you've
got
to
go
through
all
of
that,
and
there
should
be
comments
that
on
every
page,
perhaps
maybe
not,
but
and
then
for
them
to
having
have
to
reprint
all
those
plans
over
and
over
again
and
bring
them
in
I
think
our
sustainability
person
we
have
would
have
a
problem
with
that.
J
So
why
can't
we
also
implement
a
software
where
a
program
that
these
developers
can
submit
I
know
they
can't
already
with
up
to
a
certain
amount
of
pages
I
think,
but
if
there's
20
or
30
or
50
pages
of
a
big
project,
that's
coming
in,
allow
them
to
be
able
to
submit
that
electronically,
save
on
paper
or
save
on
time.
They
don't
have
to
go
through
the
you
know
the
process
again
about
reprinting
them
every
time
they
come
in.
So
that
was
just
a
couple
of
things
that
I
think
could
help.
J
J
More
of
an
intermediate
person
that
would
be
there
when
plant
when
these
developers
or
even
homeowners,
come
in
and
and
look
I
know
as
a
contractor.
Every
year
I
mean
the
code
change
and
the
fire
codes
changed
in
electrics,
coach
changes,
building
codes
changed
and
it's
hard
for
staff
to
keep
up
it's
hard
for
contractors
to
keep
up
much
less
staff,
but
staff
has
to
know
it
all
and
they've
got
to
be
able
to
know
not
only
the
Florida
codes.
J
But
what's
in
our
code,
our
development
code
and
interpret
that
in
a
way
that
is
a
they
can
approve
projects
to
go
in
Clearwater.
Now,
I'm
not
saying
to
make
it
any
less
on
that
front,
because
but
the
system
on
how
they
review
it
I
think
could
help
I.
It
shouldn't
be
any
worse
than
anywhere
else
and
I.
Always
it's
a
it's
heavy
on
my
heart
to
see
when
I'm
talking
with
people
and
I'm
always
promoting
clear
when
I
go
well,
I'd
I'd
go
there,
but
I
have
to
go
through
the
billing
department.
J
That's
gonna
be
another
thing
and
I
just
think
that
if
we
could
be
a
little
more
friendly,
maybe
this
Ombudsman
and
I
know
we
have
one
now,
because
if
they
didn't
follow
the
exact
way
that
we
wanted
to
do
it.
But
we
do
have
an
ombudsman
and
I
have
I,
hear
good
things
on
some
developers
that
yes,
he's
very
helpful
on
being
able
to
take
care
of
problems.
J
But
when
a
person
comes
in,
let's
say
a
homeowner
and
he's
got
a
plan
to
put
an
addition
on
the
back
of
his
house
and
I
could
tell
you
this
from
experience.
People
have
no
idea
of
what
they
have
to
go
through,
not
only
in
Clearwater
but
anywhere
to
get
that
plan
approved
because
they've
got
a
abide
by
state,
federal
state
and
local
rules.
J
J
J
Everybody
will
look
at
it
and
say
they
think
there's
a
problem
with
their
Department
on
that
they'll.
Let
you
know,
and
then
you
take
that
if
you're
a
bigger
developer
to
your
engineer-
and
he
can
it
gives
them
a
little
guideline
to
go
by-
but
I
guess
I
really
didn't
want
to
be
talking
right
now
to
everybody
at
the
building
department,
I'm
more
or
less
just
put
it
on
Bill
shoulders.
Let's
go
ahead
and
see
what
we
can
do
to
get
some
changes
initiated.
That
would
be
good
changes.
I
know
it.
J
This
is
another
conversation,
but
the
Charter
Review
this
year
came
up
with
some
ideas
and
one
of
them
for
neighborhoods
as
an
ombudsman.
So
it's
not
a
bad
idea
to
have
somebody
there
that
can
walk
somebody
through
the
process
and
make
it
a
little
easier
for
them.
So
with
that
I
think
I'd
like
to
open
it
up
to
anybody
else
for
comments
on
that
any
other
councilmembers
mr.
Condon
I.
G
Think
there
have
been
improvements
over
the
last
number
of
years
and
I
know
you
all
have
been
working
on
it
in
listening
to
mr.
Allbritton
here
for
the
first
time,
I
agree
with
him
that
it
seems
to
be
a
communication
problem.
How
can
we
improve
the
communication
between
you,
folks,
the
staff
and
the
contractor,
or
the
homeowner,
who
wants
to
come
in
and
get
some
things
improved
on
his
on
his
property
and
and
if
we
can
find
ways
to
he
kept
saying
the
smiling
face?
That's
one
aspect
of
communication.
G
I
know
you
folks
are
overworked,
but
even
something
as
simple
as
a
smiling
face
when
somebody
comes
in
always
always
and
if,
if,
if
there
are,
are
ways
that
things
can
be
streamlined
and
I
have
I
have
to
say
I
think
they've
been
improving,
although
even
just
a
week
ago,
I
talked
to
a
contractor
who
lives
here
in
Clearwater,
but
he
will
not.
He
said,
do
business
in
Clearwater,
because
it's
too
difficult
and
if
we
can
go
through,
maybe
it
may
be
with
an
outside
set
of
ears
and
eyes
and
find
out.
G
Well,
what
is
it
that
that
seems
too
difficult
for
for
contractors
when
they
go
through
the
system
and
if
we
can
one-by-one,
improve
the
communication
and
do
what
we
can
to
make
satisfied
customers
and
we
do
have
a
number,
a
lot
of
satisfied
customers,
but
we
need
more.
Normally,
that's
my
two
cents
worth
thank.
C
You
thank
you
very
so
my
question
would
be
are
what
is
the
average
backlog
time
for
a
project?
Small
and
large?
Are
we
correctly
staffed
I
mean?
Do
we
need
assistance
in
the
building
department?
Is
there
an
opportunity,
maybe
for
independent
building
plan
review,
where
we
hire
outside
reviewers
to
help
out
in
times
of
either
busy
or
maybe
the
criterias
larger
size
projects?
Whatever
takes
up
most
of
staff
time
I
was
part
of
the
initial
initiative
back
in
2012
business
task
force.
Actually,
the
quarter
dr.
C
on
partnership
started
that
process
and
then
that
time,
mayor
Hobart
came
over
and
took
it
over,
and
there
were
many
many
recommendations,
I
think
four
or
five
pages
many
of
them
were
approved
and
implemented,
and
I
I
do
think.
We've
went
a
long
long
way
is
whether
there's
additional
technology
that
would
help,
but
I
do
think
that
it's
a
and
I'm
just
gonna
use
one
example,
because
every
developer,
every
homeowner
can't
have
a
job
or
dad
or
a
David,
Allbritton.
Okay,
so
navigation
is
extremely
important.
C
There
was
an
ombudsman
for
that
and
I
think
that
made
some
changes
there,
but
I
think
he
starts
I.
Think
it's
mindset.
We
did
a
field
trip
when
I
was
on
a
partnership
back
then
in
12
to
the
nose
part
no
less
than,
and
it's
a
staffing
issue
for
people
met
us
at
the
door.
Didn't
know
we
were
coming
and
it
was
like
open
arms
and
I'm,
not
saying
lovey
dovey
roses
and
doves
flying
when
you
walk
in
a
fully
department.
C
C
Think
of
my
Parks
and
Rec
I
mean
we
are
like
the
number
one,
regardless
of
the
some
of
the
media,
picking
currently
on
us
in
every
department,
we're
kind
of
fair
game
in
every
department
right
now,
which
I
think
is
totally
unfair.
But
if
you
just
look
at
our
geographic
location,
guys
we're
all
gonna
be
fair
game
right
now:
okay,
that's
just
that's
just
the
nature
of
this
city.
C
So
that
being
said,
I
think
the
mindset
has
to
change
it,
not
I'm,
not
saying
it
hasn't,
but
I
think
it
needs
to
be
continually
reinforced
because
when
we
deal
with
our
public
we
want
them
to
not
just
love
the
climate
and
the
beauty
and
the
look
but
love
their
city
and
I
think
that's
the
whole
goal
of
a
magic,
lower
love
the
city
and
come
back.
So
those
will
be
my
comments.
A.
F
Little
different
angle,
because
well
great
points
are
being
made
night
and
I
support
it
I'll
get
to
that.
But
the
other
side
of
it
is
look
at
everything
that
has
been
built
and
what
has
happened.
How
many
cooler
beats
these
quality
products
and
quality
things?
The
development
community
sees
the
value
in
clear
water.
We
need
to
embrace
that
and
we
need
to
understand
that.
F
But
you
know-
and
that
doesn't
mean
you-
let
the
developers
run
roughshod
over
staff.
I
think
what
council
number
Albritton
said
about.
You
know
it's
all
about
expectation.
If
the
developer
brings
in
a
set
of
plans-
and
he
knows
it's
gonna-
take
six
weeks
before
he
gets
him
back
well.
If
it
takes
eight
weeks-
and
he
knows
that
going
in-
but
he
knows
that
with
eight
weeks
of
review
it's
gonna
have
you
know
all
questions
asked
for
him.
F
Therefore,
that
developer
to
respond
to
you
know
it's
just
a
matter
of
that
because
I,
because
they
all
know
they're,
not
gonna
get
you
know
you're
not
going
to
go
in
to
do
one
of
these
large
developments
and
submit
your
plans
and
come
back
and
you
know
staffs.
Just
gonna
say:
hey
everything's,
great,
knock
yourself
out,
there's
good
there.
You
know
they've
got
to
go
through
these
things
and
that's
it's
their
job.
But
my
my
approach
is
more
of
the
technology.
I
mean
I
know
for
a
fact.
F
You
know
you
mean
we
just
upgraded
our
computers
to
a
higher
level
of
capacity,
but
you
know
with
what
planning
and
development
is
dealing
with
versus
the
private
sector.
I
can
promise
you.
The
private
sector
has
all
got
the
top
technology
on
the
market
to
do
what
they
do.
We
need
to
be
able
to.
We
need
to
be
able
to
meet
meet
that
and
match
that
technology
from
a
communication,
standpoint
and
and
whatnot
and
I,
think
you
know
being
able
to
submit
plans
through
a
PDF.
F
You
know
not
have
to
reprint
these
huge,
because
you
know
we've
all
seen,
plans
I,
don't
know
if
everybody
has,
but
you
know
when
you're
doing
a
major
hotel
about
Montclair
Beach.
There's
about
12
rolls
about
this
big
around.
You
know
for
each
person
and
it's
like
that's
a
lot
of
money
and
you
know
III
think
we
need
to
I'm
always
interested
in
and
I
support
wholeheartedly.
Any
way
we
can
streamline
the
process
without
losing
quality
and.
F
A
But
I've
been
on
council
now,
twelve
thirteen
years
and
one
of
the
first
things
I
heard
when
I
got
on
council
was
that
Clearwater
is
an
unfriendly
place
to
do
business.
That
no
contractor
is
going
to
be
satisfied
with
any
question
that
we
ask
of
him,
and
we
may
make
the
improvement
that
he
recommends.
He's
gonna
find
something
else
to
complain
about
that's
human
nature.
A
Ken
improvements
be
made;
absolutely
we
all
can
improve,
but
to
give
up
what
we've
had
and
what
we've
established
just
to
make
sure
it
only
has
to
be
reviewed
one
time.
Doesn't
I'm
not
grasping
that
because
the
changes
you?
Maybe
they
didn't
go
through
the
entire
plans
when
they
found
something
wrong
and
brought
it
to
your
attention
and
to
save
time
in
their
mind,
they
gave
it
back
to
you
right
away.
A
I,
don't
know
like
I,
say:
I'm,
not
a
contractor,
but
I
do
believe
that
improvements
can
be
made
without
sacrificing
the
quality
of
work
that
we
have.
The
quality
of
products
that
are
being
built
in
Clearwater,
oh
and
I'm.
Gonna
just
want
to
go
yeah,
let's
not
throw
out
the
baby,
because
you
know
one
person
complained
with
facts
that
were
incorrect.
D
A
D
The
I've
heard
complaints
about
a
permitting
system
going
back
to
1998
when
I
first
got
here
and
in
fact
we
had
a
Valentine's
Day
Massacre
on
the
permitting
department
Pam.
You
probably
remember
this.
My
predecessor
one
day
got
angry,
fired
five
people
now
of
five
I
think
the
only
ones
that
could
stay
fires
were
two,
and
that
was
because
it
was
kind
of
a
reckless
act
to
begin
with.
D
One
of
the
things
we
try
to
do
is:
if,
when
someone
does
complain,
then
we
look
into
it
and
make
sure
we
know
and
understand
accurately
what
happened?
That's
been
my
policy.
The
whole
time
I've
been
here
and
what's
amazing
to
me,
is
that
what
I
have
done
that?
What
I
have
often
found
not
in
every
case
but
but
I
would
say
nine
out
of
ten
cases.
It
really
wasn't
with
us.
It
was
a
person
who
was
trying
to
do
business
with
us.
D
All
contractors
were
not
equal,
I
think
we
all
know
that
all
developers
are
naughty
I
think
we
know
that
as
well.
Why?
Because
we
have
worked
with
developers
who
have
praised
us
have
not
complained
about.
Our
system
have
not
complained
about
our
process,
but
there's
also
another
reality
that
we
deal
with
and
that's
the
reality
of
some
of
the
contractors,
some
of
the
art
patrons
who
are
not
as
skilled
and
can't
figure
some
of
this
out
and
when
they
don't
do
their
jobs
very
well,
then
that
causes
us
to
have
more
interaction
with
it.
D
In
talking
to
councilmember,
Allbritton
I
mean
he
has
been
a
contractor.
He
has
subject
knowledge,
so
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
give
him
an
opportunity
to
sit
down
with
our
most
experienced
staff?
Who
does
this
every
day
and
give
him
an
opportunity
to
share
some
his
suggestions?
Some
of
his
ideas
and
I
want
the
staff
to
interact
with
him
just
like
they
interact
with
the
people
that
we
support,
because
I
think
the
suggestions
and
ideas
and
the
concerns
really
needs
to
have
a
very
robust
discussion.
D
So
we
all
come
away
with
the
same
kind
of
understanding.
What
comes
out
of
that
interaction
I
think
will
be
some
information
that
staff
can
use
to
internally.
Let's
take
a
look
at
where
we
can
make
some
improvements.
I
will.
Then
we
will
come
back
to
you
all
and
finish
this
conversation
so
that
you
understand
you
know
kind
of
where
we
find
ourselves
as
a
result
of
and
I
you
know,
I
mean
I
had
cooked.
D
You
know
from
our
perspective,
uh-huh
we're
gonna
slay
this
dragon,
because
we
continue
to
have
the
same
kind
of
conversation
where
we
have
different
kinds
of
realities
and
I.
Just
think
that
we
approach
this
a
little
differently.
You
know
it's
like
insanity,
you
know
you,
you
keep
doing
the
same
thing
and
expecting
different
results.
D
D
But
the
point
is
we
have
to
continue
to
move
forward
in
addressing
what
is
in
many
cases.
Perception
and
perception
is
reality
for
people,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
headed
mayor
I
want
this
interaction
to
occur.
I
want
the
staff
to
feel
very
comfortable
in
the
conversation
and
then
we'll
take
the
results
of
that
conversation
and
see
where
it
leads
us
in
making
improvements
that
are
believed
to
be
appropriate,
unreasonable,
you're
right,
you
know
we're
not
gonna
lose
any
ground.
You
know
we're
not
gonna.
J
Okay
and
to
close
I'll
close
this
out,
I
just
want
to
say,
as
I
said
in
the
beginning,
everyone
I'll
have
a
problem.
Staff
has
always
been
very
good
and
helpful
to
me.
We
have
great
staff,
it's
a
system
problem
that
I,
see
and
I've
always
been
talking
about
and
I
think
now
that
I'm
sitting
here,
maybe
there's
something
that
I
can
do
to
help
you,
because
I
know
you
you've
got
to
be
as
frustrated
as
anybody
else.
J
When
you
have
the
you
know,
people
coming
to
you
and
such
as
what
happened
last
week
with
one
contractor
that
was
I,
guess
called
cost
a
little
commotion
in
there.
So
I
know
you're,
frustrated
and
I
want
to
help
I
want
to
help
make
that
better
and
I
will
listen
and
I.
Think
it's
good
that
we
do
have
meetings,
and
maybe
we
can
come
up
with
something
that
helps
us
all.
A
Thank
You
mr.
Oliver,
because
I
think
all
of
us
don't
want
to
be
here
two
years
from
now,
four
years
from
now,
six
years
from
now
having
these
same
conversations
all
right,
thank
you
very
much,
any
other
business
council
before
we
adjourn,
we
remind
everybody
that
our
next
council
meeting
is
Thursday
November
the
7th
at
six
o'clock
in
the
evening.