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B
Okay,
I
see
that
I
mean
that's
a
that's
a
large
number
of
parcels
that
scientology
itself
owns
right.
B
Yeah,
I
just
think
it's
important
to
to
point
out,
because
people
see
the
news
stories
about
oh,
more
scientologists
being
added
to
the
downtown
development
board
and
they
think
that
scientology
controls
the
city,
but
that's
not
the
case.
Unfortunately,
it's
tilted
toward
them
in
this
section
here,
so
I
think
rank
asano
won
with
like
254
votes.
B
B
But
if
there
was
a
giant,
a
t
presence
down
here
and
a
t
and
t
was
controlling
the
elections,
I
think
people
would
be
concerned
about
it.
B
E
F
So
there
are
there's
the
possibility
that
there
are
900
parcels,
so
we
can
have
900
votes
for
these
elections.
Is
that
correct
and
so
you're
worried
about
the
weight
of
the
elections?
Because
people
haven't
shown
up
to
vote?
Is
that
correct
all
right?
So
we
got
to
get
people
to
show
up
and
vote
people
who
care.
A
Well,
I
I
would
respectfully
disagree
and
that
this
year
we
made
a
very
deliberate
effort,
we
mailed
directly
mailed
to
every
single
property,
all
900
of
those.
This
is
when
the
election
is,
they
received
a
postcard.
A
They
received
a
follow-up
letter
with
a
registration
form
with
all
of
that,
and
then
every
single
person
we
had
registrations
forms
for
which
is
around
600.
They
received
a
ballot
and
the
downtown
development
board
was
absolutely
supportive
of
that
they
paid
for
it.
They
authorized
to
do
it
right,
so
I
mean
getting
two
pieces
of
direct
mail
in
addition
to
advertising
to
our
social
media
channels
and
of
course
we
were
aided
by
tampa
bay
times.
Articles
had
more
questions
than
ever
about
the
ddb.
A
A
They
helped
fund
the
the
boat
slips
right,
I
mean
councilmember
albritton,
you
were
on
the
ddb,
I'm
sure
you
know
the
list
of
projects
better
than
I
do
I
I
guess
what
I
hope
people
really
take
away
is
that
the
ddb
is
a
very
powerful
tool
that
downtown
has
for
ongoing
funding
almost
in
perpetuity
to
help
support
downtown
businesses
in
a
more
flexible
way
than
even
the
general
fund
allows.
So
it's
really
important
people
are
engaged
and
involved.
B
G
B
H
H
H
Weren't
even
signed
right
because
I
participated
in
sometimes
looking
at
the
signatures,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
them
were
tossed
out.
So
you
know
if
people
don't
like
it,
their
simple
remedy
is
go
vote
and
you
know
just
probably
need
to,
and
I
know
the
paper
does
a
good
job
of
advertising
this
year.
E
E
C
A
So
that
was
cleaned
up,
because
when
the
the
ddb
ordinance
was
first
made,
it
was
prior
to
community
redevelopment
agency
and
so
their
perv.
Their
scope
was
much
broader.
So
now
the
downtown
development
board.
You
know
they
really
probably
would
not
enter
into
brownfield
grants
so
dealing
with
unsuitable
topography
or
they
would
not
participate
in
land
assemblies.
So
faulty
lot
layouts.
A
So
it's
really
just
they're
not
going
to
redo
road
designs,
clarifying
rules
right.
It's
really
honing
them
in
onto
that
marketing.
Community
engagement,
business
assistance,
type
roles.
F
Are
you
looking
at
the
document
amanda
like
page
by
page,
because
there
were
a
few
little
questions?
F
Okay,
so,
on
page
three,
at
the
top
top
paragraph
I
have
under
insufficient
infrastructure,
insufficient
availability
of
office,
space
and
housing
and
obsolete
and
substandard
offer
office,
space
and
housing.
Can
you
explain
that
or
give
me
some
examples
of
that.
A
F
And
if
they
were
going
to
provide
new
they'd
have
to
tear
something
down
right,
because
we
don't
have
a
level
in
space,
okay
and
then
the
third
pair
under
three,
where
you've
got
a
bunch
of
strikeouts.
I
have
the
police
power.
That
wording
is
just
a
little
off
strange.
I
thought
policing
may
be
inadequate.
Would
sim,
simplify
that
and
then
on
b,
as
we
go
down
under
4b
serve
as
a
voice
for
property
owners,
businesses,
residents
and
organizations
in
the
district,
and
I
just
wanted
just
a
little
clarification
on.
F
A
Not
not
directly
like
I
would.
I
wouldn't
say
that
this
sets
that
out
as
part
of
their
core
mission,
but
certainly
that's
something
that
point.
F
A
F
A
F
And
and
then
on
page
four
under
e
assist
the
city
and
the
cra
to
provide
a
way
of
life
which
combines
the
conveniences
and
amenities
of
modern
living
with
the
traditions
and
pleasures
of
the
past.
I
didn't:
can
you
give
an
example
of
what
that
combination
is
I'll.
A
Be
honest:
this
was
in
the
original
ordinance,
which
is
why
it's
written
in
that
interesting
language,
like
kind
of
like
a
hallmark
card,
yeah,
love,
traditions
and
pleasures,
and
I
we
really
just
didn't
touch
it,
because
we
weren't
really
sure
how
to
reword
it.
To
be
honest,
so
I
mean
I
would
say
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
where
you
know
people
enjoy
walking.
They
enjoy
outdoor
concerts,
I'd
say
for
our
community.
It's
that
combination
of
convenience
and
accessibility,
but
also
the
traditions
in
our
community
like
live
music.
F
A
Because
we
broadened
things
that
got
that
specific,
there's,
also
language
in
here
like
print
marketing
brochures
and
getting
that
detailed,
isn't
particularly
helpful
in
a
framework
ordinance.
So
we
have,
you
know
transportation
and
pedestrian
friendliness
overall.
But
if,
if
you
read
something
like
this
and
you
think,
oh
are
we
supposed
to
fund,
you
know
reflective
vests
for
crossing
guards
downtown
right.
It
could
go
that
route
and
that's
not
necessarily
helpful.
Okay,.
F
On
page
six,
at
the
top
on
number
four
under
voting,
I'm
wondering
why
are
we
omitting
the
section
on
notification
to
freeholders.
F
Okay
and
that's
probably
on
no
underneath
on
number
five-
I've
got
previous
number
six.
We
are
leaving
it
up
to
the
property
owners
to
decide
who
submits
the
one
ballot
right,
okay
and
then
oh,
I
had
under
number
eight
at
the
bottom
of
page
six,
the
dissolution
of
the
district.
That
district
should
probably
be
capitalized,
it's
just
one
little
thing
and
then
on
page
seven
under
section
2.146
eligibility
to
vote.
F
Why
are
we
not
using
freeholders?
Here?
We've
got
property
owners
and
you've
taken
off
freeholders.
So
it's
the
third
line
down.
Are
the
you've
stricken
out
free
holders
and
you
put
property
owners
in
there
why'd
you
do.
That
is
it
because
they
have
to
collectively
pay
taxes
and
well,
of
course,
it's
the
same
thing.
I
just
wonder
why
that
name
change
was
different.
There.
I
Because
the
freeholders
is
a
defined
term
and
we
use
property
owners
there
to
make
it
clear
that
we
are
talking
about
property
and
not
not
trying
to
confuse
the
issue.
I
didn't
want
to
use
the
defined
term.
I
was
defining
the
term
again
here:
okay,
okay,
I'm
sorry!
I
didn't
mean
to
butt
in
but
excluded.
I
have
the
answer.
F
I
I
If
we
forget
substance,
substance
is
always
the
most
important
was
the
inconsistency
and
that's
because
it
was
done
before
computers
were
common,
so
you
couldn't
go
through
and
define
and
replace
and
fix
it
all
yeah.
But
I
mean
it's
not
a
substance
of
an
issue.
It's
a
preference
issue
and
the
reason
I
use
he
or
she
is.
I
really
have
problem
with
using
there
for
a
singular.
F
I
I
spent
my
career
teaching
he
or
she
right
with,
but
but
I
think
we're
moving
towards
a
more
inclusive
language
and
I
would
just
to
me
it
would
be
my
preference
to
have
there
for
people
who
don't
identify
as
either
he
or
she
in
a
particular
way,
and
that's
there's
a
couple
of
spots
throughout
it.
There.
F
Okay,
on
page
eight
there's
a
on
the
first
paragraph
at
the
top.
I
think
that
freeholders
there's
a
capitalization
that
should
be
there
should
be
a
capitalization
of
freeholders
on
that
first
chunk.
First
big
paragraph,
it's
kind
of
in
the
middle
and
enable
the
freeholders
to
elect
a
board
member.
F
Yeah
and
then
there's
another
one
with
his,
but
it
doesn't
even
have
his
or
her
it
has
performed
his
duty.
That's
the
last
sentence
under
section
four.
So
certainly
we
should
have
minimally
his
or
her,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
have
their
duty.
F
D
I
don't
mean
to
interrupt,
but
I
mean
in
that
for
about
his
duty
I
mean
you
could
change
it
to
attempting
a
good
faith
to
perform
the
duties
for
a
decision
that.
F
C
E
E
So
if
so,
if
you
want
to
direct
that
we'll
do
that,
otherwise,
we'll
just
do
the
typos
capitalizations,
where
we
clearly
have
misstated
something.
F
How
do
you
guys
feel
about
theirs
with
indefinite
pronouns
when
you
say
everyone's
someone?
It
means
instead
of
saying
his
or
her,
you
know
vote,
we
would
say
their
vote.
Are
you
guys?
Okay
with
that.
B
At
but
maybe
this
is
something
we
can
continue.
D
B
I
see
the
value
in
changing
it,
but
if
we
don't
have
the
votes
for
it
should
we
should
have.
We
voted.
C
B
We
have
not
okay,
so
the
only
one
who
hasn't
decided
is
what
the.
C
C
K
Mayor
council,
we're
going
to
have
a
parking
presentation,
parking
system,
presentation
from
jeremy,
ales
house
jeremy
is
our
new
parking
manager.
This
is
his
first
presentation.
K
Typically,
our
new
managers
don't
give
presentations
so
early
in
their
tenure,
but
I
will
ask
you
to
treat
him
nicely
since
it's
his
first
time,
the
mayor
had
asked
for
a
parking
system
presentation
focused
in
a
couple
of
areas,
but
as
we
talked
and
as
I
realized,
you
know
the
kind
of
turbulence
that
we've
had
in
the
in
the
parking
system
manager
position,
I
felt
it
was
a
benefit
to
both
jeremy
and
to
the
council
for
him
to
give
a
more
comprehensive
presentation
that
addresses
not
only
the
mayor's
concerns
of
purposes
for
having
a
presentation,
but
also
would
give
all
of
us
an
up-to-date
perspective
on
what's
happening
with
the
parking
system
up
since
we're
taking
a
little
time
to
get
started.
K
I
would
also
add
that,
as
we
continue
to
try
and
refine
and
create
a
more
equitable
parking
system-
and
all
of
you,
especially
the
mayor
and
all
britain
and
hamilton,
are
familiar
with
the
evolution
of
parking
system
in
clearwater.
We're
continuing
to
find
that
there
are
some
inequities
as
we
try
to
address
those
inequities.
K
L
Good
morning,
thank
you
city,
council,
mr
mayor
city
managers.
It's
my
honor
and
pleasure
to
be
here
today
to
go
through
our
parking
system.
Presentation
with
you,
mr
mayor,
I'm
sorry
I
went
through
something
like
you're
going
through
and
hopefully
my
my
presentation
doesn't
make
that
worse,
so
I've
kind
of
put
together
a
little
bit
of
an
outline
of
what
we're
going
to
discuss.
What
I'm
going
to
discuss
here
with
you
today
kind
of
going
over
the.
Why
we're
doing
what
we're
doing
the
philosophies
behind
it?
L
The
best
practices,
kind
of
the
industry
standards
we'll
discuss
the
two
different
systems
we
seem
to
have.
Here
I
mean
the
downtown
is
very
different
than
the
beach
and
how
we
address
those
two
different
areas,
we'll
discuss
our
financials,
including
where
the
money
goes
and
then
we'll
have
a
session
where
we're
kind
of
looking
at
our
section,
we're
kind
of
looking
ahead
and
seeing
where
we're
planning
on
going
and,
of
course,
then
you'll
be
asking
me
questions.
L
I've
been
here
for
six
weeks,
so
I'll
do
my
best
to
answer
everything
I
possibly
can,
but
I
know
that
you
know
I
might
fall
short
on
that,
but
we'll
get
you
the
answers,
as
the
you
know
be
all
of
it.
So
I
think
the
the
most
important
thing
is
the.
Why
why
a
parking
system
in
general?
We,
you
know
if
we
go
back
long
enough
and
we
can
think
about.
Oh
there
wasn't
a
need
for
this
at
some
point.
L
Well,
anybody
that
drives
over
the
causeway
on
a
saturday
when
the
weather's
nice,
they
know
you
know
we're
a
draw
right.
The
beach
is
a
draw.
People
want
to
come
here.
They
want
to
be
able
to
park.
They
don't
want
to
think
about
parking.
I
mean
much
like
this
for
some
of
these
folks
behind
me
with
the
this
presentation,
because
we
don't,
we
don't
tend
to
want
to
think
about
it
or
or
consider
it.
We
just
want
to
go
there,
parking's
lasting
we're
thinking
about
our
destination.
L
What
we're
going
to
do
there
we're
going
to
eat
that
kind
of
stuff?
We
really
don't
care
about
parking
until
it
becomes
a
problem
and
then
we're
irate,
angry
ticked
off
if
the
city's
not
doing
the
right
job
and
that
kind
of
thing
so
that
that's
the.
Why
that's
why
we
have
the
parking
system?
So
as
far
as
the
philosophy
this
fellow
here,
dr
donald
schupp,
he
got
his
phd
in
urban
planning
city
planning.
He
focused
concentrated
on
parking,
wrote
a
book.
It's
a
very
big
book.
I
wouldn't
recommend
it.
It's
not.
L
You
know
it's
not
a
page
turner
by
any
stretch
of
the
imagination,
but
he
discussed
a
whole
bunch
of
things
in
there
that
kind
of
lay
the
foundation
for
for
most
municipal
parking
systems.
So
what
he
looked
at
unrestricted
free
parking
is
bad
for
business
and
what
he
means
by
that
is
when
there's
a
strong
desire
for
people
to
congregate
in
a
certain
location
parking
wise.
L
If
there
is
no
turnover
in
that
area,
then
the
what
you'll
see
the
motorists
are
struggling
to
get
there.
They
want
to
find
that
parking
space
they're
doing
that
hunt
for
that
parking
space
when
they
find
it
then
they're
so
happy
they'll
park
in
there
and
they'll
tend
to
overstay,
then
they'll
leave
it
and
especially
if
they
live
in
that
neighborhood
they'll
park
it
there
and
they
won't
leave
well.
L
If
that
space
happens
to
be
in
front
of
the
business,
it's
bad
for
that
business,
because
now
his
customers
for
that
business,
they
can't
find
a
space.
They
get
frustrated.
Every
time
I
go,
you
know
to
that,
your
municipality,
I
can
never
find
parking
there's.
The
perception,
then,
is
there's
no
parking
and
it
it
kind
of
snowballs
and
creates
a
worse
off
situation.
So
the
way
to
handle
that
is
metered
parking,
so
on
street
parking
should
be
controlled
and
the
way
we
do
that
is
by
meter.
You
want
to
go
there.
L
It's
it's
a
popular
place,
there's
a
draw!
There's,
that's
a
commodity
right!
It's
it's
worth
something!
So
if
people
want
to
go
there,
they
have
to
pay
that's
going
to
incentivize
them
then
to
to
make
that
decision,
especially
on
the
street,
in
front
of
a
business.
I
know
it's
going
to
be
there
if
I'm
going
down
real
quick
and
I
just
want
to
grab
lunch
or
something
like
that
or
I
want
to
frequent
a
business
get
in
get
my
stuff
done
and
leave.
Well
then
I
I
know
I
know
the
cost
of
that.
L
I
know
what
it's
going
to
cost
and
you
know
I'm
incentivized
to
stay
for
a
shorter
period
of
time
in
that,
in
that
preferred
parking
spot,
thus
creating
turnover
on
down
the
line
making
it
there
for
the
next
person
that
wants
to
do
the
same
thing.
L
Also
something
that
he
looked
at
is
then
to
the
on-street
stuff
should
be
more
expensive
than
the
off-street
stuff.
So
then
we're
kind
of
we're
incentivizing,
then
again
those
people
that
want
to
come
that
they're
working
downtown
or
they
live
near
downtown
and
they
don't
have
off-street
parking
available
to
them
so
get
them
in
a
garage
or
in
a
parking
lot
get
them
set
up
with
a
monthly
permit,
that's
off
of
the
street,
so
that
those
street
spaces
that
are
more
valuable
so
that
they
still
have
the
turnover
for
those
businesses.
L
The
way
that
we
go
about
kind
of
keeping
the
this
system
in
place
is
through
enforcement.
Okay,
and
this
is
where
we
get
the
bad
rap.
This
is,
we
know
our
roles,
nobody
likes
getting
a
parking
ticket,
but
that's
really
the
only
avenue
we
have
available
to
us
to
kind
of
force
the
issue.
L
If
they
don't
want
to
pay
for
their
parking,
they
don't
want
to
park
correctly
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
Then
the
only
thing
that
the
parking
system
can
do
is
give
them
a
parking
ticket
parking
citation.
We
call
it
here
in
clearwater,
but
that's
you
know
it's
it's
not
that
we
revel
in
that
or
anything
like
that.
That's
just
the
mechanism,
that's
there
and
available
to
us,
so
we
use
that
it
promotes
compliance
then,
and
there
is
a
direct
correlation,
then
you'll
see
between
the
number
of
citations.
L
You
write
for
meter
violations
and
the
compliance
you
get
with
people
paying
meters
you'll
see
them
in
the.
If
people
are
paying
for
their
meters,
then
meter
tickets
go
down
right
and,
if
they're
not
paying
for
them,
then
your
revenue
comes
down,
but
your
parking
tickets
go
up
either.
Direct
there's
a
direct
correlation
there,
but
in
addition
to
that,
there's
also
a
component
of
public
safety
that
the
the
parking
system
provides
if
we're
finding
those
people
that
are
parked
at
fire.
L
Hydrants
that
are
double
parked
those
type
of
violations
it
parked
in
no
parking
zones.
Well,
it's
probably
in
the
parking
zone
for
a
reason
and
that
reason
would
be
sightline
issues
at
intersections
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
it's
safer
for
cars
to
pull
out
and
that
type
of
thing.
L
So
then
we
look
into
best
practices
and
this
kind
of
industry
standard.
These
pictures
here
on
the
bottom
of
the
thing.
There
are
different
organizations
that
rule
or
not
rule
on
but
kind
of
give
out
advice
on.
What's
what's
in
your
best
interest
as
far
as
parking
there's,
actually
an
international
one,
there
that's
listed,
but
they
look
at
things.
Okay,
so
you're
running
a
municipal
parking
system.
So
what
should
we
do?
L
Look
at
rate
structure,
so
the
on
street
should
be
more
than
off
street,
as
I
said
before,
it
must
be
enough
to
control
the
curb.
So
obviously,
if,
if
we're
charging
one
penny
a
minute
or
a
penny
an
hour,
that's
not
going
to
be
enough
to
control
the
curb,
because
you
know
I'll
give
them
a
dollar
and
I'll
park
there
for
for
10
hours.
You
know
no
big
or
100
hours,
so
no
big
deal
so
it's
it's.
L
The
rate
has
got
to
be
something
that
does
does
promote
that
turnover
and
and
encourages
that
should
be
comparable
to
similar
municipalities.
So,
anytime
we
go
to
look
at
rate
structures
and
that
kind
of
stuff
they
look
at
well.
What
are
our
neighbors
doing?
What
are
similar
services?
You
know
similarly
positioned
municipalities
doing
we
might
not
compare
to
a
municipality
in
the
middle
of
nebraska,
but
we
sure
do
other
beach
communities
up
and
down
the
coast
of
florida.
That's
where
we
should
look.
How
are
they
doing
it?
What
are
they
doing?
L
And
that
was
done,
and
we
do
that-
and
I
know
that
it's
you
know
sometimes
that's
not
popular,
because
we
don't
want
to
pay
for
parking
if
we
can
avoid
it,
but
it's
necessary
evil
maybe
would
be
the
way
to
put
it
and
it
can
vary
throughout
the
system,
and
we
see
that
here
right
we're
going
to
talk
about
it
a
little
bit
more,
but
the
parking
on
the
beach
is
certainly
a
lot
more
in
demand
and
desirable
right
now
than
the
parking
downtown.
So
our
rates
are
different
parking
at
down
on
the
beach.
L
L
As
far
as
you
know,
I
I
have
a
minimal
number
of
staff
enforcement
staff
where
there's
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
only
enough
on
a
big
tangent
here,
but
there's
there's
a
bunch
of
details
in
parking,
so
enforcement
is
one
part
of
it,
but
as
it
applies
to
enforcement-
and
I
don't
have
enough
for
I'm
not
running
a
small
police
department-
we're
not
24
7
and
that
type
of
thing
we're
focusing
on
when
the
parking
is,
is
a
problem
and
when
it's
the
biggest
issue,
not
that
you
can't
have
an
issue
at
three
o'clock
in
the
morning.
L
But
that's
the
police
can
issue
parts
parking,
citations
and
and
address
those,
but
we're
looking
to
focus
on
when
the
people
are
here
so
we're.
We
are
seven
days
a
week
to
our
meters
start
at
six
o'clock
in
the
morning.
They
go
at
11
o'clock
at
night,
so
we're
trying
to
schedule
our
our
folks
in
those
times
we're
balancing
the
staffing
levels
with
enforcement
demands.
One
of
the
things
that
we
noticed
is
we
just
had
did
a
study.
L
L
I
would
imagine
something
like
that,
so
obviously
we
should
schedule
our
people
more
on
those
days
rather
than
than
the
other
days
to
kind
of
address
that
the
we
want
them
to
be
out
there
to
kind
of
be
that
real
and
visible
deterrent,
because
it's
it's
first
of
all,
it's
getting
compliance
without
even
issuing
a
ticket
if
they
see
a
parking
enforcement
vehicle
drive
by.
L
However,
taking
advantage
of
technology
they
they're,
they
were
doing
some
things
and
I
know
there's
been
a
revolving
door
at
my
position,
but
it
seemed
like
they
were
all
kind
of
kind
of
moving
towards
best
practices
and
really
getting
up
there
with
technology.
L
So
we
have
license
plate
reader
technology
and
that's
cameras
that
are
located
on
cars.
They
can
read
the
license
plates
and
basically
it's
it's
pretty
cool
technology,
but
it's
really
kind
of
simple
in
its
root
form.
It's
just
comparing
that
license
plate
that
it
reads:
that's
abc123
to
a
list,
that's
in
the
in
the
back
office
in
in
the
software,
so
those
lists
are
people
that
paid
with
at
the
at
the
pay
stations
they
entered
their
license
plate.
L
L
So
this
really
helps
us
with
that.
It
also
allows
for
virtual
permits.
You
can
probably
all
remember-
maybe
some
of
you
still
have
the
old
hang
tags
or
some
kind
of
permit
that
we
used
to
issue
that
you'd
put
in
your
car
or
hang
somewhere,
but
then,
inevitably
we
dealt
with
the
well.
I
I
lost
it.
I
misplaced
it.
I
took
my
other
car
today.
I
it
was
in
my
car.
I
forgot
to
hang
it.
You
know
all
those
kind
of
problems.
So
now
your
license
plate
is
your
permit.
L
So
when
you
contract
with
us
to
get
a
permit
or
the
when
the
the
city
employees
get
a
permit
for
like
the
msb
garage,
they
just
give
us
their
license
plate.
It
goes
in
the
system.
The
license
plate
reader
knows
it
as
it
drives
through
there.
Okay,
that
they're
good
good
good
good.
Oh,
no,
that
was
not
that
one
needs
a
citation.
L
It
also
eliminates
the
need
for
pay
and
display
pay
and
display
was
a
technology
that
was
was
pretty
big
for
a
little
while
and
a
lot
of
people
were
using
it.
But
the
problem
with
that
you
had
a
bunch
of
people
complaining
well
now,
I'm
walking
further,
because
you
know
I
used
to
before
it
was
just
the
single
space
single
headed
meters
at
every
parking
space
cluttering
up
the
streetscape
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
they
could
go
and
pay
right
in
front
of
their
car.
L
They
went
to
this.
The
pay
and
display
where
they
put-
and
this
still
is
kind
of
the
industry
standard-
is
to
have
more
of
a
multi-space
pay
station
located
throughout
that
can
replace
up
to
10,
depending
on
how
they're,
situated
or
10
or
more
single
space
meters.
So
again
it
shrinks
down
the
the
number
of
devices
that
you
have
to
deal
with
and
maintain
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
with
pay
and
display
people
were
upset
because
well
I
had.
L
I
got
to
walk
all
the
way
down
halfway
down
the
block,
pay
that
thing
and
bring
my
my
ticket
half
the
way
back
and
put
it
on
my
dashboard
and
that's
just
inefficient
blah
blah
well
license
plate
reader
technology
takes
care
of
that.
You
enter
it
into
your
into
the
machine.
You
pay
for
your
time
and
you
don't
have
to
go
back
to
your
car
we've
also
done.
The
city
of
clearwater
has
gone
to
a
mobile
app,
probably
I'm.
L
Hopefully
most
of
you
are
familiar
with
this,
but
that
that
was
a
great
technology
that
was
a
great
inroad
into
making
things
more
convenient
because
you
don't
have
to
go
to
the
pay
station.
Now
you
can
just
get
out
of
your
car
and
start
walking
towards
your
destination
and
put
in
your
app
where
you
are
and
pay
for
time
beautiful
thing
about
that
is
in
the
old
days
when
you
had
either
the
single
space
or
even
the
pay
and
display.
L
If
you
wanted
to
add
time,
you
had
to
go
back
to
the
source
back
to
the
meter.
Now
you
can
just
do
it
on
your
cell
phone
and
and
it'll
send
you
a
text
message
before
it
runs
out
to
let
you
know:
hey
you're,
getting
ready
to
run
out
of
time.
So
if
you're
meeting
that
long
or
whatever
you
can
add
time
so
it
it,
there
really
is.
The
technology
is
trying
to
address
a
lot
of
the
needs
of
citizens.
L
But
you
know
the
citizens
needs
are
so
broad
and
so
varied
that
sometimes
we
can't
cover
them
all,
but
there
are
some
things
that
are
happening
that
are
making
things
easier
for
for
for
them.
So,
as
I
talk,
I
got
a
little
ahead
of
myself.
It's
a
multi-space
base
stations,
eliminate
the
need
for
multiple
meters
and,
as
I
was
saying
that
that
the
reason
for
that
is,
there's
there's
one
device
instead
of
ten,
because
those
even
those
multi
single
space
meters
they're
like
little
computers.
L
So
that's
ten
little
computers
that
can
break
down
and
have
to
be
maintained
versus
now
we
have
one
and
ten
different
locations
that
have
to
be
collected,
the
labor
to
do
that
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
Well,
now
it's
down
to
one,
but
as
we're
another
trend,
we're
seeing
in
the
industry
is
we're
going
more
towards
used
to
be
a
cash.
You
know
lots
of
coins.
We
get
literally
hundreds
of
pounds
of
coins
at
a
time.
Well,
now
it's
most
people
are
using
credit
cards
paying
that
way.
L
So
that's
kind
of
another
change,
that's
happened
so
as
we
look
at
the
two
different
systems
that
we
have
here
in
clearwater,
we
see
that
obviously
the
beach
there's
450
on
street
spaces.
Those
are
three
dollars
and
fifty
cents
an
hour.
So
this
is
our
metered
parking
on
street
there's
1562
off
street
spaces.
Those
are
our
lots
in
our
garages
that
are
over
there.
Those
are
at
three
dollars
an
hour.
You'll
notice,
there's
an
asterisk
there,
the
beach,
marina,
that's
kind
of
a
little
standout
right
now.
L
There's
there
was
really
a
desire
to
have
that
be
just
for
the
businesses
that
are
there
and
it's
been
difficult
separating
the
two
so
that
because
a
lot
of
people
that,
especially
when
the
other
lots,
are
full,
it's
very
enticing
for
somebody
to
park
in
that
parking
lot
and
just
walk
to
the
beach
which
upsets
the
businesses
that
are
there.
They've
come
up
with
a
system
where
it's
they
get
a
code.
L
The
businesses
get
a
code
that
changes
some
every
couple
of
months
three
months,
some
two
three
months,
it
changes,
so
you
have
to
go
to
the
business
and
get
the
code
to
put
it
in.
It's
not
an
ideal
system,
it's
a
little
cumbersome,
something
we
got
to
work
on
as
we
go
ahead,
but
then
they
get
cheaper
parking
to
park
there,
and
the
idea
was
that
they're
using
that
just
for
the
businesses,
so
that
is
a
little
bit
of
an
outlier.
That
is
something
as
we
go
forward.
L
We're
going
to
have
to
look
at
and
address.
I
don't
know
enough
about
it
now
to
sit
here
and
give
you
a
you
know.
Well,
this
is
what
we
need
to
do.
I'm
not
prepared
to
say
that
yet,
but
it
is
an
outlier
and
it's
it's
a
little
bit
weird,
but
we
see
on
the
beach.
Obviously,
there's
very
high
demands
limited
space
for
additional
parking,
we're
not
making
any
more
streets
over
there.
So
we're
not
going
to
see
any.
L
You
know
any
significant
on-street
parking
being
added
to
that
area
and
we
got
to
address
the
conflicting
needs.
The
residents
want
one
thing:
the
tourists
want
one
thing:
the
business
owners
want
something
else
and
the
employees
want.
You
know
a
fourth
thing,
so
we
can't
make
everybody
happy.
Sometimes
I
mean,
and
what
I
wanted
to
talk
about
here
when
I
got
to
this
is,
is
just
I
mean
if
any
of
you
ever
worked
in
business
or
for
businesses
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
L
Typically,
we
have
our
employee
parking
is
somewhere
in
the
back
further
away
from
the
front
door.
That
type
of
thing
the
boss
might
impose
that
if
it's
a
private
lot
or
something
like
that,
you
know
employees
park
over
there
out
of
the
way.
So
the
customers
have
a
thing
same
thing
for
for
municipal
parking,
so
you
know
the
the
business
owners
employees
if
they
want
to
seek
reduced
rate
parking
permits
for
over
at
the
beach.
L
Maybe
we
should
well
you're
going
to
have
to
go
towards
all
the
lots
that
are
further
away
from
the
businesses
now
that
can
create.
You
know
I
want
to
be
right
there
I
gotta,
I
run
stuff
back
and
forth.
I
do
supply
runs
for
my
business
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
that's
gonna
have
to
be
answered
at
some
point.
You
know
so
our
br
any
any
any
parking
system.
We
should
be
uniform,
equitable
and
easy
to
understand
so
we're
working
on
the
easy
to
understand.
L
They
tend
to
be
reluctant
to
the
apps
and
that
type
of
thing-
and
I
get
that,
but
with
the
rate
things
are
and
that
kind
of
stuff
you
know
who
carries
around
three
dollars
and
fifty
cents
worth
of
quarters
in
their
pocket
to
pay
a
meter,
not
no
nobody.
I
don't
think
anymore.
We
can't
get
change
anymore
right
and
still
change
shortage
or
something
so
we're
trying
to
make
it
as
easy
to
understand
as
we
possibly
can,
but
we
really
look
to
do
it
uniformly
and
equitably.
L
The
beach
in
the
in
the
downtown
is
different,
but
you
know,
but
on
the
beach,
the
north
side
of
earth
is
our
south
side,
we're
doing
something
for
the
businesses
on
the
north
side
and
this
kind
of
gets
into
the
last
bullet
there.
If
you
know,
if
we're
doing
something
for
the
business
on
the
south
side
of
the
beach,
we
need
to
do
something
similar
or
if
we
took
something
away
from
them
on
the
north
side,
we
need
to
take
it
away
from
them
on
the
south
side
as
well.
L
So
you
know,
and
how
do
we
manage
expectations
when
everybody
wants
that
prime
space,
everybody
wants
to
be
right
up
front,
you
know
closest
to
the
beach
or
closest
to
that
business
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
we've
got
to
kind
of
push
that
on
with
let
our
employees
and
business
owners
know
really
we
want
to.
L
We
want
to
focus
that
for
the
tourists
and
and
and
the
people
that
are
going
to
frequent
the
businesses
and
the
people
that
are
supporting
that
system
financially,
you
know
that
the
the
prime
parking
should
be
for
them,
because
if
you
make
exceptions,
it's
it's
really
important
that
you
be
consistent,
so
we
we
try
very
very
hard
not
to
because
somebody
will
always
call
us
and
they
they
have
well.
I
I
have
this
need.
I
need
to
be
there
because
absc,
it's
more
convenient,
I'm
afraid
at
night.
L
You
know
my
business
doesn't
close
until
after
dark
and
I'm
afraid
to
walk
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
Well,
if
you
make
that
consideration
or
that
change
for
them,
it's
got
to
be
open
to
everybody.
You
can't
just
do
it
for
one
and
not
others,
without
opening
yourselves
up
to
allegations
of
favoritism
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
the
downtown
considerations
were
how
the
downtown
is
different.
There's
292
on
street
spaces,
those
are
up
to
50
cents,
an
hour,
there's
835.
L
All
street
spaces
in
our
lots
and
garages,
those
are
50
cents
an
hour,
and
you
can
see
that
there's
there's
not
that
parity,
that
we
look
for
they're
the
same
price.
Ideally
we'd
like
to
see
a
difference
in
there
to
incentivize
again
those
people
that
would
park
on
the
street
and
to
incentivize
them
to
park
off
street.
If
they're
going
to
be
there
for
a
longer
period
of
time,
principal
stakeholders
here
being
the
business
owners,
employees
and
residents
right
now
in
the
age
of
coven,
we
don't
see
a
huge
tourist
draw
to
downtown.
L
I
know
that
there's
some
things
in
the
works
that
are
trying
to
change
that
and
I
hope
that
that's
successful,
but
as
we
in
here
today,
it's
it's
it's
not
so
the
demand
for
downtown
is
is
not
nearly
what
it
is
on
the
beach.
We
all
know
that
it's
been
greatly
impacted
by
the
pandemic,
and
I
know
that
you
guys
are
working
with
the
the
downtown
businesses
to
try
to
alleviate
some
of
their
problems
and
their
concerns,
and
it's
tough,
it's,
but
it's
tough
everywhere.
It's
not
like
just
clear
water.
L
It's
we
have
regular
meetings
with
the
the
other
local
parking
managers
and
they're
all
having
the
same
thing.
Our
downtowns
are
hurting
our
downtowns
are
struggling.
It
sits
across
the
board.
You
know
it's
this
rotten
pandemic
so
but
hopefully
we
will
return
back
to
some
assemblance
of
normal
here
sooner
rather
than
later
lord
willing,
and
then
you
know
what
impact
will
these
projects
that
we're
working
on
have?
What
will
imagine
clear
water
do
to
that
area?
I
mean
we're
hoping
it's
gonna
be
successful.
L
We're
hoping
it's
gonna,
bring
all
those
people
we
need
to
be
prepared
for
it
as
well.
What
will
other
future
development
bring?
You
know
hopefully
clearwater.
Imagine
clearwater
spurs
more
people
to
come
in
and
invest
and
and
build
infrastructure
and
businesses
and
and
the
like,
because
that's
then
we
can
look.
You
know
how.
How
do
we
incentivize
the
increased
foot
traffic?
L
The
one
way
the
play
the
park
is
just
a
small
part
of
it,
but
the
one
way
we
do
is
that's
one
of
the
biggest
reasons
that
the
price
is
not
the
same
downtown
as
it
is
at
the
beach,
because
then
it
could
really
be.
If
we're
charging
3.50
on
cleveland
street,
that
would
be
a
disincentive
to
come
downtown.
It's
not
justified.
It's
just
the
numbers
aren't
there
to
support
it.
L
Hopefully
that
changes-
and
you
know
if
at
some
point
downtown,
is
as
busy
or
as
much
of
a
draw
as
the
beach
is
and
then
I'll
be
back
to
talk
to
you
about
a
price
increase
at
that
point.
But
right
now
it
just
doesn't
justify
going
up
that
drastically.
But
I
do
have
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
the
prices
downtown
here
in
a
minute.
L
So
at
the
very
least,
what
we're
looking
for
downtown
is
a
revenue
neutral
system.
We
still
have
the
need
to
create
turnover,
even
though
it's
not
that
busy.
We
still
want
to
create
turnover.
We
don't
want
the
business,
you
know
an
employee
or
whatnot
because
they
will
park
right
in
front
of
the
business.
You
know
the
cashier,
what
not
making
just
a
little
bit
over
minimum
wage.
L
So
we
need
to
still
have
something
in
place
to
incentivize
that
that
turnover.
So
we
look
at
going
forward.
Our
single
space
meters
that
are
currently
on
this
side
of
town
they've
all
been
replaced
on
the
beach
they're
all
multi-space
pay
stations
over
there.
We
still
have
single
space
meters
on
this
side
of
town,
but
they're
at
end
of
life.
They
don't
do
all
the
functions
that
they
used
to
once
do
and
it's
time
to
replace
them.
L
The
single
space,
the
the
multi-space
pay
stations
to
replace
them
with
are
kind
of
expensive
and
because
we
don't
have
the
crowd
to
support
it.
We
look
at
other
ways
to
go
about,
and
I
was
hoping
this
would
show
up
a
little
bit
bigger,
but
so
one
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
here
and
we'd
like
to
propose
or
we'd
like
to
go
ahead
with,
is
a
system
like
this.
So
this
is
downtown.
I
got
two
different
zones
highlighted
here.
Some
are
in
pink
and
some
are
in
blue.
L
The
pink
zones
are
kind
of
that
central
core
right
along
cleveland
street
and
kind
of
a
blocker
half
a
block
going
either
way
north
and
south
from
there
and
those
areas
they're
still
they're,
still
somewhat
of
a
draw
we'd
like
to
and
to
get
two
things.
First
of
all,
to
get
kind
of,
get
that
parody
that
we
I
talked
about
before,
whereas
you're
on
street
should
be
more
than
your
off
street
or
off
street,
or
our
lots
and
stuff
like
that
or
50
cents
an
hour.
L
L
Outdated
meters
that
are
currently
there
and
we
would
go
to
a
you
know
supported
mostly
from
the
the
app
the
park
mobile
app.
So
if
you
were
parking
in
there
it
would
be
a
dollar
per
hour
for
a
limited
number
of
hours
and
you'd
have
to
pay
through
the
park
mobile,
app,
so
kind
of
a
give
back
on.
That,
then,
is
the
areas
that
are
there
in
blue.
L
We
would
change
those
to
just
timed
parking,
so
you
could
park
there
for
free
for
up
to
two
hours,
so
anybody
that
well,
I
want
to
go
downtown,
but
I
don't
want
to
pay
well.
If
there's
space
is
available
in
the
blue
area
park
in
the
blue
area,
you
can
be
there
for
up
to
two
hours
and
it's
free.
That
should
be
enough
time
for
you
to
go
to
lunch
or
frequent.
Whatever
business
you
need
to
frequent
get,
you
know,
do
your
business
and
then
leave.
L
If
you
want
to
park
longer,
you
should
go
to
the
garage
pay,
50
cents
an
hour,
it's
cheaper
than
than
the
pink,
and
so
it
all
kind
of
works
together
in
a
system
like
that.
So
we'll
talk
about
our
revenues
for
for
last
year
or
for
the
last
three
years.
I
have
them
here
and
you
can
see
the
first.
The
the
top
row
across
is
parking
citation
revenue
and
we
kind
of
count
that
separately,
because
well
I'll
show
you
in
a
minute.
Why?
L
But
you
can
see
that
in
2019,
when
everybody's
having
a
banner
year
and
things
were
going
gangbusters
we
were,
you
know
we
were
lots
of
people
were
coming.
We
were
writing
lots
of
parking
tickets.
You
know
there
will
be
always
a
fraction
of
of
the
the
public
that
comes
that.
You
know
more
people,
more
people
parking
and
a
fraction
of
those
will
park
incorrectly
and
get
parking
tickets.
That's
just
human
nature,
that's
how
it
works.
So
we
see
the
2019
was
the
best
year.
L
Obviously
covid
this
past
year,
the
number
of
tickets
fell
drastically
site
number
citations.
I
keep
calling
tickets.
Sorry
semantics,
I
guess,
but
it's
dropped
drastically
in
2000
and
this
past
year,
that's
all
covered
related
for
a
little
while
we,
you
know
our
staffs
were
furloughed.
They
weren't
even
working,
so
no
tickets
were
being
issued
for
a
couple
weeks.
Couple
months
we
had
mental
staff,
doing
safety
and
handicap
violations.
Only
so
then
we
look
at
the.
L
The
next
is
the
downtown
revenue,
the
what
the
the
row
in
the
middle
there,
and
that
is
a
little
bit
deceptive.
If
you
look
at
it
so
2018
2019
was
an
increase.
We
were
doing
really
well
and
it
looks
like
holy
cow.
Something
crazy
happened
and
you
know
you
had
a
banner
year.
L
It's
a
little
deceiving
because
we
took
over
this
year
the
seminal
boat
ramp
and,
as
everybody
knows,
the
beach
was
a
huge
draw
and
the
boat
ramps
were
a
huge
draw
because
those
things
weren't
closed
down
because
of
kobit.
So
those
were
mobbed,
so
we
made
over
200
000
just
from
the
seminole
boat
ramp
that
we
didn't
make
in
the
years
prior.
So
you
take
the
200
thousand
dollars
away
that
we
made
in
civil
boat
ramp,
and
you
see
we
only
you
know
it
was
it
was.
It
was
the
lowest
year.
L
L
You
know
stay
on
budget
this
past
year,
because
the
beach
is
so
popular
because
so
many
people
are
going
to
the
beach
and
they're
you
know
paying
for
their
parking.
So
you
can
see
you
know
by
far
our
money
is
coming
from
the
beach,
so
where's
it
go.
Then
so
again
I
we.
We
keep
the
citation
revenues
separate
from
all
the
others
and
here's.
Why?
Because
out
of
the
citation
revenue,
we're
required
to
make
some
expenditures
so
five
dollars
for
every
paid
citation
goes
to
the
general
fund
and
that
covers
crossing
guards.
L
So
in
2019
we
paid
156
thousand
dollars.
I
don't
know
why
it's
not
a
well
they're
kind
of
rounded
to
a
little
bit.
That's
why
it's
about
156
thousand
dollars
for
the
city
for
the
general
fund
for
the
crossing
guards
a
we
have
to
pay
anyone
that
wishes
to
contest
or
appeal
a
parking
citation.
L
We
have
to
pay
the
courts
ten
dollars,
whether
we
win
or
we
lose.
We
pay
them
ten
dollars.
That
was
only
ten.
That
was
that's,
not
a
significant
number,
but
that
money
does
come
out
of
those
citations
as
well
as
other
enforcement
expenses.
So
that's
our
people,
our
equipment,
our
supplies
to
for
enforcement.
Comes
that's
694,
000!
That's
there!
Anything
that's
left
over,
so
our
citation
revenue
in
2019
was
really
close
to
one
million
dollars.
So
you
take
all
these
things
out.
What's
left
over
was
197
thousand
dollars.
L
That
money
does
not
stay
in
my
budget.
That
money
then
goes
to
the
general
funds
gets
spent.
I
don't
know
about
my
money
at
that
point,
but
it's
used
for
other
things,
of
course,
but
the
thing
that
I
wanted
to
make
clear
here:
I'm
not
really
incentivized
to
just
go
out
and
and
hammer
the
heck
out
of
people
with
parking
citations.
It
doesn't
affect
my
bottom
line.
It
doesn't
affect
my
budget.
I
don't
make
more
money
in
my
budget,
so
we
can't
go
out
and
buy.
L
You
know
new
cool
parking
things
and
put
spinners
on
the
enforcement
vehicles
or
anything
like
that.
We're
just
you
know
it's
not
there.
So
any
money
that's
made
over
on
parking
citation
goes
to
the
general
fund.
It's
not
in
the
parking
system's
budget,
so
the
beach
in
the
downtown
revenue
that
does
get
combined,
that's
kind
of
one
bucket.
If
you
will,
but
out
of
that
in
2019
we
paid
312
000
dollars
for
to
fund
the
jolly
trolley
the
beach
guards.
We
paid
a
million
dollars
for
the
the
beach
guards.
L
Now,
that's
everything,
that's
their
salaries,
our
uniforms,
the
maintenance
of
their
lifeguard
stations
and
and
anything
like
beachguard
related.
We
funded
out
of
the
the
the
parking
revenues
we
paid
22
thousand
dollars
to
the
sunsets
at
pier
60,
so
that
they
can
host
that
program
and
then
another
877
thousand
dollars
was
it's
kind
of
all
lumped
together
in
the
budget,
but
it's
the
biggest
part
of
that
is
the
beach
cleaning.
But
then
there's
also
the
for
the
traffic
bureau
signage
that
we
would
need.
L
L
I
I
had
a
hard
time
with
this
one
somebody
said
well,
it's
it's
a
pilot
pilot
and
I
thought
it
was
a
pilot
program
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
I
was
struggling
5.5
of
your
revenue
goes
to
the
pilot
found
out
it's
payment
in
lieu
of
taxes.
It
was
an
acronym,
so
it's
in
the
budget,
5.5
percent
into
the
general
fund
for
this
payment
in
lieu
of
taxes
to
be
utilized
elsewhere
by
other
city
agencies
to
to
pay
for
any
of
that.
At
that
point
it's
no
longer
mine.
C
L
Good
right
personnel
is
obviously
the
biggest
one,
that's
all
the
salaries
benefits
and
that
kind
of
stuff
for
everybody
working
in
the
parking
system
that
was
2.1
million
dollars,
capital
improvements
in
2019
we
paid
400
000
for
those
operational
contracts
and
expenses.
L
We
have
a
contract
with
the
the
multi-space
pay
station
company,
there's
a
contract
with
them.
The
park
mobile,
the
the
mobile
app
there's
a
contract
with
them,
the
there's
a
contract
with
the
company
that
facilitates
our
handheld
devices,
that
issue
the
tickets
and
that
kind
of
stuff
and
they
take
care
of
ticket
payments
and
that
kind
of
stuff
gets
through
that
system.
So
that's
where
that
500
000
goes
to
fund
all
of
those.
L
So
looking
ahead,
this
is,
and
again
I've
only
been
here
six
weeks.
So
some
of
this
stuff
is
is
in
its
infant
stages
as
far
as
what
we're
looking
to
do
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
but,
as
I
discussed
earlier
with
those
blue
and
those
pink
zones,
implement
a
park
mobile
and
time
zones
downtown
constantly.
L
Looking
at
what
our
rate
structure
should
look
like
again,
downtown
is
not
justified
to
be
what
the
the
beach
is,
but
we'll
look
at
that
and
constantly
go
that
we're
trying
what
we're
shooting
for
there
is
that
balance
right.
What
controls
the
curve?
What's
the
rate
at
which
we
get
that
turnover?
L
We
get
that
compliance
that
we
need,
but
it's
still
affordability,
because,
no
matter
what,
if
we're
going
to
have
turnover
we're
still
going
to
have
to
fund
something
we're
going
to
have
to
fund
enforcement,
we're
going
to
have
to
fund,
you
know
signage,
whatever!
That's
that's
on
the
street,
so
you
know
there
needs
to
be
a
give
and
a
take
there.
L
Any
downtown
parking
system
should
be
part
of
a
successful
traffic
management
plan,
again
we're
just
a
small
piece
of
that
puzzle,
but
it
certainly
as
we
go
forward
with
these
different
projects
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
You
know
how
are
people
going
to
come
into
downtown?
Where
are
they
going
to
park?
How
are
we
going
to
direct
them
to
park?
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
in
a
few
slides,
but
all
that
stuff
goes
into
it
and
we're
we're
small
but
we're
kind
of
integral.
L
Because
again,
if
the
people
come
here
and
they
can't
find
a
parking
space,
then
you're
you
know
it
can
it
can
hurt
businesses
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
if
there's
no
place
for
people
to
park
or
even
the
perception
that
there's
no
place
to
park,
even
if
there
is
and
they
can't
find
it,
then
their
perception
is
off.
I'm
not
going
down
to
clearwater
again
anymore,
because
I
can
never
find
a
place
to
park,
so
it
is
in
the
works.
There's
plans
there's
going
to
be
a
new
garage
downtown.
L
Currently,
the
the
plan
is
to
put
it
at
fort
harrison
and
park
street
as
a
component
of
the
new
city
hall
complex.
So
you
know
what
will
that
look
like
going
forward?
How
will
you
know
how
will
traffic
be
affected
as
people
go
in
there?
You
know
what
will
it
just
you
know?
L
L
So,
in
ongoing
analysis
of
the
constantly
involving
area,
imagine
clear
water.
The
proposed
cleveland
street
changes.
Whatever
happens
there
did
you
guys
ultimately
decide
we'll
be
ready
to
deal
with
it?
You
know
if
that
parking
goes
away
and
it
becomes
a
a
streetscape
or
if
you
decide
to
do
something
a
little
bit
different.
You
know
we
got
to
be
ready
to
handle
it,
no
matter
what
so
there's
a
few
things
that
are
beach
specific,
that
I
wanted
to
focus
on
for
a
couple
minutes
on
the
beach
end
of
it.
L
Currently,
the
we
have
a
co-owner
with
that
they
have
the
first
two
floors
and
those
are
the
floors
that
fill
up
first
right,
I
mean
it's
just
human
nature
they
go
in.
They
want
to
park
as
soon
as
they
can.
So
by
the
time
that
you
know,
ours
are
the
last
floors
to
fill.
So
I
want
to
look
at
ways
to
to
get
more
people
over
there,
because
if
the
first
two
floors
fill
up,
our
co-owner
makes
good
money
and
we
make
nothing.
L
So
we
don't
make
money
until
we
start
getting
people
in
those
the
third
floor
and
above
so,
what
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
little
sign.
That's
there
when
people
drive
over
the
the
causeway
and
they
go
through
the
circle
and
they
get
to
their
the
beach
the
lot
that
they
want
to
park
to
park
at,
and
you
know
we
we
had
signs
that
just
said:
lots
full
sorry.
So
I
I
had
to
make
some
signs
like
this
yeah
this
slot's
full.
But
hey,
listen!
L
You
know,
490
point
city
avenue
go
there.
There
should
be
parking,
they
can
put
it
in
their
gps,
then,
and
and
have
a
direction
and
have
you
know,
know
where
they're
going
and
that
way
it's
kind
of
a
traffic
calming
if
you
will,
because
now,
instead
of
just
hunting
for
a
space,
we're
pointing
them
towards
a
space.
The
other
thing
that
that
I'm
considering
is
the
pros
and
cons
of
like
I
talked
about
before
is
those
beach
employees
yeah.
They
want.
L
L
You
know
what
would
it
look
like
if
we
kind
of
no,
if
you
want
discounted
parking
on
the
beach
you're
going
to
have
to
park
at
the
north
beach
parking
closet,
we'll
give
you
a
discounted
rate
because
you're
an
employee,
but
that's
where
you're
going
to
park
that
includes
employees
of
the
city.
You
know
they.
They
have
they're
working
over
there
too,
and
they
they
have
the
same
issues.
L
So
you
know
we,
you
know
h,
got
to
deal
with
hr,
then
at
that
point,
possibly
the
union,
you
know
and
that
type
of
stuff,
but
it
will
make
some
people
upset
that
they're
going
to
have
to
park
further
away
from.
If
if
I
was
to
go
to
a
system
like
that
or
recommend
a
system
like
that,
some
people
will
be
upset
because
well
now
I
got
to
walk
a
block
and
a
half
or
two
blocks
and
some
days
it
rains
and
some
days
it's
hot
as
heck
and
that
type
of
thing
so.
L
If
we
did
look
for,
there's,
there's
certainly
demand
there
that
the
lot
is
is
pretty
full.
Quite
often,
it
has
the
that
quirky
issue
with
the
codes
for
the
businesses
and
stuff.
Currently.
So,
if
we
built
a
bigger
facility,
you
know
there's
some
different
things
that
we
could
do.
L
Some
areas
could
be
cordoned
off
for
just
monthly
pass
holders
and
that
kind
of
stuff
possible,
but
it
that's,
that's
a
that's
a
huge
undertaking.
I
mean
we're
looking
to
build
this
garage
downtown
in
the
next
couple
of
years.
You
know
I
didn't
I
there's
no
money
in
my
my
reserves
at
this
point
I
think,
are
14
million
dollars.
I
think
I
didn't
say
this.
Let
me
go
back
for
a
minute,
so
the
beach
revenues.
L
What's
any
money,
that's
left
over
kind
of
goes
in
our
reserves
and
usually
that's
around
a
million
and
a
half
dollars
a
year
and
that's
held
in
a
an
account
for
reserves,
and
that
would
be
for
building
garages
and
large
scale
projects
in
the
future.
So,
but
you
can
see
the
current
industry
standard
and
this
is
a
real
rough
go
by
25
000
per
space.
L
So
if
you're
building
a
parking
garage
and
that's
just
a
plain,
jane
garage,
if
we
build
a
garage
over
at
the
marina,
it
probably
needs
to
be
something
a
little
bit
over
and
above
that,
that
area
calls
for
something
a
little
bit
better
than
a
plain
jane.
It's
it's
got
to
look
nice.
It's
got
to
fit
the
area,
so
you
know
if
we
want
to
build
a
500
space
garage.
L
L
Well,
how
big
do
you
want
it?
You
know
how
many
people
do
you
want
to
service?
The
other
thing
when
we
go
to
do
that?
Where
do
the
350
some
odd
parking
spaces
that
are
currently
there
that
are
going
to
be
built
on?
Where
do
we
put
those
people,
usually
a
displacement
plan?
What
it
looks
like
for
a
project
like
that
and
it'll
take
a
good
part
of
a
year
a
solid
year
to
build
that.
So
where
do
we
put
those
350
parkers
for
a
year
while
we're
building
this
garage?
L
Usually
those
look
like
we
find
some
lot
elsewhere
and,
unfortunately,
there's
really
not
a
lot
of
spaces
on
the
beach,
so
we're
talking
about
putting
those
spaces
somewhere
on
the
on
the
other
side
of
the
causeway
and
running
a
shuttle
service
which
adds
to
the
as
to
your
cost
of
the
project.
It
just
is
again.
This
is
stuff
to
consider
stuff
to
think
about.
L
So
then,
this
is
like
more
the
system-wide
stuff,
so
not
beach,
specific
or
downtown
specific,
but
I'm
looking
at
the
as
we
as
we
go
ahead.
We're
looking
at
proposed
fine
adjustments.
L
Currently,
the
fine
is
disproportionate
at
the
parking
fee,
so
especially
on
the
beach.
If
you
park
on
the
street
and
say
I'm
going
to
pay
them
for
the
metered
space,
I'm
just
going
to
park
here
and
I'll
get
the
ticket
the
ticket
is
15.
So
if
you
stayed
for
more
than
five
hours,
you
won
right.
You
paid
15
for
parking
that
it
had
you
pay.
L
Had
you
had
to
pay
the
the
thing
it
would
have
been
more
expensive,
so
we
will
put
a
a
a
proposal
together
for
you
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
at
some
point
we
will
be
asking
you
to
address
those
parking
fees
or
the
citation
fees
to
kind
of
get
that
more
in
parity
with
with
something
that
makes
sense.
It
meets
operational
needs
also
looking
at
a
comprehensive
10-year
maintenance
program
for
all
of
our
garages,
we're
I'm
working
currently
with
walker
consultants.
L
It's
one
of
our
consultants
of
record
they're
kind
of
a
parking
centered
firm.
They
do
most
of
their
work,
is
in
the
parking
industry,
so
they're
going
to
evaluate
our
garages,
look
at
them
and
and
write
out
basically
a
road
map
on
what
we
need
to
do:
maintenance,
wise.
You
know,
garages
require
maintenance,
just
like
any
other
structure
or
building
or
or
or
what
have
you
and
our
garages
are
no
different.
L
The
industry
go
by
is
currently
they
recommend.
You
know
fifty
dollars
per
parking
space
gets
set
aside
per
year
to
to
deal
with
those
things,
and
some
of
the
stuff
is
just
normal.
Your
your
on
your
roof
and
other
areas.
It's
generally
an
industry
standard
to
put
some
kind
of
coating
on
that
water,
pervious
coating,
but
the
florida
sun
beats
it
up
so
and
they
know
every
x
number
of
years.
L
We
recommend
that
get
replaced
and
that
type
of
stuff,
so
that,
as
well
as
your
expansion
joints
and
that
kind
of
stuff
or
an
assault,
air
environment
that
stuff
just
it
gets
affected,
they
look
at
it,
do
some
inspecting
and
that
kind
of
stuff
spawning
concrete.
All
that
stuff,
but
they'll,
put
a
plan
together.
We
recommend
for
this
garage
to
do
this
at
year,
one
this
year,
three
this
at
year,
five
and
on
down
the
line
so
that
we're
working
on
that
also
looking
at
and
I've
talked
other.
L
This
is
not
just
the
parking
agency
either.
You
know
again
we're
a
small
part
of
it.
Working
with
other
city
agencies,
comprehensive
signage
project
to
identify
all
city
parking
facilities.
The
studies
show
that
the
public
is
generally.
They
feel
a
little
bit
better
about
parking
in
a
public
parking
lot
or
garage.
L
L
Looking
for
the
hunting
for
parking
spaces,
as
dr
schup
called
it,
and
also
you
know,
traffic
calming
decreases
driver
anxiety
because
they
know
where
they're
gonna
go,
and
I
want
to
just
bring
something
up
on
this
as
we
were
looking
at
this
we're
like.
Wouldn't
it
be
great
if,
as
you're
coming
over
the
causeway,
we
had
some
signage
there,
some
kind
of
interactive
signage
somewhere
that
as
you're
coming
across
you
know
because
we
do
have
park
genera.
You
know
generic
parking
signs.
This
way
that
way
south
beach
parking
north
beach
parking.
L
L
So
now
you
know
I'm
it
doesn't
even
make
sense
for
me
to
go
that
direction,
I'm
just
going
to
turn
right
and
go
up
and
use
the
north
beach
parking,
plaza
or
or
some
of
those
lots.
So
I
talked
with
some
folks
in
the
the
traffic
bureau
then,
and
one
fellow
that's
been
there
for
a
very,
very
long
time
he's
like
you
know,
clearwater
had
something
like
that
back
in
the
70s.
It
was
analog.
It
was
a
little
flip
down
thing.
L
He
says
and
and
we
had
that
and
we
were
doing
that,
but
some
of
the
businesses
came,
and
you
know
it's
something
you
don't
think
about
right
because
I'm
thinking
what's
what's
the
downside
and
he
said
well,
some
of
the
businesses
complained
and
said.
Well,
if
you
have
the
sign
that
says
the
lots
are
closed,
then
they
won't
go
that
way,
and
so
then
the
businesses
would
get
upset
because
well
traffic's
not
going
our
direction
they're
going
the
other
direction.
L
You
know,
what's
what's
the
right
way
to
go
on
a
thing
like
that?
I'd
love
feedback.
I'd
love
to
you
know,
hear
what
you
guys
think
about
something
like
that,
because
you
know.
Are
we
to
the
point
now
where
the
environment
and
traffic
calming
is
is
more
important
than
than
you
know
the
perception
that
that
nobody'll
go
down
to
that
side
of
town?
Well,
they're
not
going
to
go
there,
because
it's
already
full
there's
no
sense
to
send
them
there.
L
So
the
other
thing
that
I
want
to
look
at
as
I
continue
with
the
city
here-
is
sustainability.
We
do
we
have
a
very
anemic
ev
charging
station
program
going
on
right
now.
I
would
love
to
see
that
throughout
our
parking
system
now,
but
there's
always
there's
always
a
catch
right.
This
it's
you
know
it's
not
as
simple
as
as
it
would
seem
at
first.
L
What
I
found
out,
as
I
looked
into
this,
is
that
duke
energy
was
offering
some
type
of
incentive
where
you
could
get
stuff
for
for
very
reasonable
prices,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
again
coming
from
north
flooding
and
hurricanes,
was
not
something
that
we
considered
on
a
regular
basis.
But
down
here
it's
got
to
be
allotted
for
so
electricity
and
water.
L
Don't
mix
so
putting
ev
charging
stations
in
a
parking
lot
next
to
the
beach
is
a
problem
because
of
potential
flooding
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
so
duke,
didn't
want
to
go
down
that
road.
It
became
too
cumbersome
of
a
project
and
too
pricey
to
to
overcome
the
regulations
that
are
in
place
because
of
flooding.
So
I
mean
somebody's
gonna
have
to
figure
it
out
someday
and
as
we
go
forward.
That's
that's
something
I
I
you
know.
L
I'm
gonna
try
to
stay
on
top
of
as
we
get
it
figured
out,
because
the
other
thing
I
would
love
to
as
our
vehicles
age
out,
our
enforcement
vehicles
switch
them
over
to
an
electric
or
at
least
a
hybrid
type
of
a
vehicle.
L
Some
of
the
considerations
that
I
have
to
take
is
we
we're
running
those
license
plate
readers
in
there,
which
are
electric,
so
they're
they're,
taking
some
of
the
juice
from
the
battery
as
it
is,
and
obviously
being
as
hot
florida
weather
and
that
kind
of
stuff
they
need
to
have
some
kind
of
air
conditioning
you
know
running
those
compressors
is
going
to
also
take
some
electricity,
so
I
I
need
to
have
a
vehicle
that
can
run
for
eight
hours
for
a
shift,
because
I
certainly
don't
want
my
my
staff.
L
You
know
two
hours
left
in
their
shift
and
having
to
send
a
tow
truck
because
they
they
ran
out
of
juice
on
mandalay
avenue,
but
the
other
thing
I'd
like
to
look
at
is
retrofitting
the
lighting
system.
Some
of
it's
already
been
done.
Some
of
our
facilities
already
have
some
led
lighting
fixtures
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
this
would
be
another
thing
that
walker
consultants
would
look
at
as
they're
evaluating
our
garages
and
make
those
recommendations
to
switch
over
to
energy
efficient,
led
fixtures
where
possible,
wherever
possible.
L
Those
things
usually
pay
for
themselves
within
a
couple
of
years
depending
so
that's
something
I
like
to
do
also
look
at
as
far
as
sustainability,
the
the
benefits
that
from
solar
energy
now
here's-
I
really
don't.
This
is
another
big
question
mark.
L
L
So
there
are
some
considerations
that
I
don't
have
enough
information
at
this
point
to
say,
like
oh
yeah,
we'll
be
able
to
do
it,
I'd
love
to
do
it,
I'm
going
to
look
into
it,
but
there's
those
building
codes
and
that
kind
of
stuff
that
could
become
problematic
so
stuff
council
specific
that
I'll
be
looking
for
as
we
move
forward
here,
the
ordinance
ordinance
amendments.
L
We
already
talked
about
the
the
change
for
the
defined
defined
increase
that
we'll
be
bringing
that
to
you
at
some
point,
but
we'd
also
like
to
codify
some.
Mr
some
existing
procedures.
In
ordinance,
there
are
some
things
that
we're
kind
of
writing
tickets
for
citations
for
in
under
a
catch-all,
that's
in
that's
in
the
ordinance,
but
we
think
it
might
be
better
if
they
were.
L
They
had
a
specific
ordinance
themselves
for
things
like
back
in
parking
parking
against
traffic
parking,
a
non-ev
vehicle
in
a
navy
space
that
type
of
thing
it
would
be
better
if
there
was
actually
a
hard
ordinance
that
mentioned
that
stuff.
Instead
of
just
doing
the
catch-all
ordinance
that
we
currently
are
doing,
we'd
like
to
as
also
update
the
language
to
cover
a
lot
of
the
ordinance
cover
is
talking
about
single
space
meters.
L
Parking
meters.
So
just
add
some
some
terminology
in
there
to
change
the
you
know,
meter
to
to
reflect
the
the
multi-space
pay
stations
that
we're
currently
using.
L
C
Well,
I
wanted
to
have
this
discussion
because
parking
obviously
is
a
big
deal
in
clearwater,
especially
on
the
beach
people,
have
questions
about
our
rates,
how
those
are
determined
some
people
think
they're
too
high.
I
want
everyone
to
understand
how
many
things
the
parking
fund
actually
pays
for
from
the
beach
guards
to
crossing
guards
to
the
cleanup
of
the
beach
which
really
goes
to
the
quality
of
the
destination.
C
So
I
think
that's
important
and
I
didn't
know
if
all
of
the
council
knew
about
everything
within
the
parking
system
and
that's
why
I
wanted
mr
horn
to
do
this.
I've
got
a
number
of
questions,
but
I'll
open
it
up
to
the
council
first
and
we'll
go
from
there
questions
council
member
hamilton,
I'm
probably.
D
The
one
to
just
bite
my
tongue,
because
I
I'm
probably
more
familiar
with
the
parking
system
and
the
you
know
public
parking
than
anybody
else
up
here,
but
I,
I
think,
there's
also
some
upcoming
conflicts,
because
we've
got
when
we
redo
the
streetscape
along
cleveland,
going
out
towards
five
points.
D
We've
had
some
experiences
with
that
at
crest
lake,
but
if
we're
using
license
plate
readers,
back-end
parking
eliminates
the
efficiency
of
the
license
plate
reader
somebody's
got
to
get
out
of
their
car
and
walk
down
the
sidewalk
side
to
read
the
license
plates.
So
there's
there's
a
there's,
a
conflict
in
what
we're
planning
on
doing
and
what
we're
you
know
and
we're
moving
towards
license
plate
readers
in
one
department
and
another
area,
we're
moving
towards
a
parking
system
that
makes
those
inoperable.
D
So
it's
it's
kind
of
you
know
you
know
where's
our
where's,
our
you
know.
Where
do
we?
What
do
we
prefer?
You
know
parking
garages.
You
know
we
could
use
another
parking
garage
on
the
beach
problem.
Is
you
know
everybody
wants
to
park
and
and
jeremy
I'm
I've
been
here,
my
whole
life
and
my
you
know
my
family's
business
been
out
there
for
almost
six
over
55
years
when
that
traffic
backs
up
on
the
causeway
everybody
in
line
going
out.
There
knows
where
that
one
space
is
that
nobody
else
knows
about
that's.
D
Why
they're
willing
to
sit
in
that
traffic
to
get
there?
And
but
we
could
use
another
garage,
but
it
needs
to
be
located
where
people
are
gonna
utilize
it
they
want
the
parking
where
they
don't
have
to
walk
a
block
and
a
half
or
two
blocks
from
the
beach
to
the
beach.
If
they're
going
to
be,
especially
if
they've
got
in
the
in
the
back
of
their
car,
a
cooler
and
an
umbrella
and
some
chairs
and
things
of
that
nature
so,
and
we
there's
no
but
there's
no
land
on
the
beach.
This
city
can
afford.
E
D
To
build
parking,
we've
got
to
build
it
on
land
we
already
own
period,
so
you
now
have
pier
60
the
marina
and
you
have
the
the
picture.
You've
got
right
up
there
right
now,
the
land,
basically
at
the
bottom
of
the
picture,
which
is
right
near
mandalay
on
manila.
Basically,
there's
there's
an
opportunity
to
build
a
garage
there.
D
Now
you
build
a
garage
there
and
I
I've
always
hesitated
to
bring
this
up
because
for
me
to
speak
about
it,
people
say:
oh
well,
he
just
wants
a
parking
garage
chair,
because
his
family's
business
is
right
there
in
the
other
part
of
the
picture,
but
bottom
line
is
our
business
is
serving
as
many
people
as
we
can
serve
in
the
facility.
We
have
so
more
parking
right.
There,
ain't
gonna
bring
me
more
customers.
D
So
it's
not
for
me
it's
for
the
people
that
want
to
go
to
the
beach
in
a
parking
facility.
Here,
people
don't
have
to
cross
a
street
to
get
into
the
get
their
feet
in
the
sand.
They
don't
have
to
do
any,
so
it
makes
sense
and
then
you're
going
to
have
some
people
that
say
well.
You
know
you're
going
to
block
my
view
of
the
beach
from
mandalay.
I
I
challenge
you
to
tell
me
how
much
of
the
beach
you
can
see
from
mandalay
in
this
location
number
one
and
number
two.
D
What
is
our
priority?
We
want
people
to
be
able
to
drive
and
see
the
beach
or
we
want
people
to
be
able
to
park
and
put
this
their
toes
in
the
sand,
so
you
know
going
forward.
We
all
need
to
keep
that
in
mind.
I'm
you
know
I
hear
in
my
business
my
family
business.
D
D
I
haven't
seen
a
recent
survey
of
what
those
parking
rates
are
in
the
other
municipalities,
and
I
would
be
interested
to
see
that
and
I'm
going
to
stop
right
there
and
let
somebody
else
talk.
C
Well,
we
also
we've
talked
about
a
parking
garage
at
mandalay
and
got
a
lot
of
feedback.
Also
down
on
south
beach
by
opal
sands
is
another
location
that
we
talked
about,
but
got
a
lot
of
negative
feedback
for
blocking,
potentially
the
views.
So
that's
another
discussion.
Other
questions
vice
mayor.
H
Yeah
I
wanted
to
tell
you
that
was
a
great
presentation
for
being
here.
Six
weeks
is,
thank
you,
sir.
You
did
a
great
job
on
that
jeremy
and
welcome.
Welcome
aboard
one
of
my
questions
is
street
parking
on
the
beach
a
lot
of
the
businesses
there.
I've
noticed
for
years,
especially
restaurants,.
H
Have
asked
me
about
some
kind
of
valet
service.
If
that
would
be
something
the
city
would
want
to
look
at
and
I'm
not
saying
the
city
pay
for
it.
H
It
could
be
something
that
the
maybe
the
businesses
would
go
in
on,
but
I
always
thought
that
the
north
beach
garage
would
be
a
great
place
to
for
the
city.
To
I
hate
to
see
a
bunch
of
separate
valet
services,
but
a
city
could
you
know,
negotiate
with
one
service
for
the
beach
and
then
figure?
I
don't
want
to
get
in
the
middle
of
how
they
figure
that
out,
but
would
that
be
something
that
you'd
be?
We
would
like
to
talk
about
so.
L
At
my
last
job
we
had
we
well
when
I
started
there,
we
had
a
valet
service;
they
they
do
bring
challenges
they
they
can
be
beneficial
ultimately,
by
the
the
end
of
my
tenure
there,
it
just
wasn't
paying
for
itself,
so
we
got
away
from
it.
L
I
think
I
would
like
to
if
we
want
to
go
down
that
road
and
explore
it.
We
can
certainly
study
it,
but
I
think
it
might
be
better
to
try
to
form
that
out
to
a
private
company
to
run
with
a
contract
with
a
private
contractor
to
run
it
because
then
hiring
more
staff
to
facilitate
it
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
That's
where
we
really
ran
into
problems
paying
our
you
know:
people
valleys,
run
till
late
hours
and
that
kind
of
stuff
so
and
but
yeah
we
can.
L
F
I
have
a
question:
why
do
we
earmark
parking
funds
for
specific
things
like
the
jolly
trolley
beach
guards
sunsets?
Why?
Why
does
it
get
earmarked
that
way.
K
You
really
should
should
I
guess
we
could
tell
you
a
story
about
about
clearwater
budgets
over
a
20-year
period
and
there
was
a
time.
Well,
there's
always
a
time.
The
council
members
don't
want
to
raise
the
millage
to
cover
general
fund
expenses,
so
we
did
go
through
a
period
of
time
before
the
recession,
where
we
had
to
find
a
way
to
balance
the
budget.
K
One
of
the
ways
we
balanced
the
budget
is
through
the
revenue
in
the
parking
fund
because
it
was
not
restricted,
and
so
that
was
one
way
of
avoiding
raising
the
millage
on
our
residents
to
cover
expenses
that
we
felt
were
absolutely
critical
to
what
the
mayor
talked
about.
You
know
again,
the
tourism
brand.
You
know
keeping
the
beaches
clean,
making
sure
we
have
lifeguards.
So
that's
that's
why
we
do
that.
G
C
The
parking
was
like
a
user
fund
yeah
for
those
who
use
the
beach.
They
were
generating
the
revenue
that
then
was
making
the
destination
that
much
better.
So
it
made
sense
from
that
standpoint
because
you'll
talk
to
some
people
in
clearwater
and
they
say
I
don't
go
to
the
beach
it's
too
busy
or
whatever
reason
they
don't
care
for
sand.
You
know,
whatever
the
reason
may
be
so,
rather
than
putting
it
on
the
citizens
backs.
G
F
So
there
are
a
couple
things
you
didn't
address
at
all
some
of
the
parking
issues
on
north
beach
with
the
residential
section,
where
people
have
issues
with
people
parking
on
their
yards
or
close
to
their
yards
and
accessing
the
beach
is.
Is
that
going
to
be
addressed.
L
So
I
try
to
do
a
very
over
arching
this
presentation.
Without
going
into
a
bunch
of
the
the
little
things
there
are
a
whole
bunch
of
of
little
minutiae
that
goes
into
it
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
This
definitely
being
an
issue
to
a
point.
You
know,
there's
things
that
can
be
done.
Some
of
it
would
require
some
consensus
from
the
part
of
the
residents
that
live
in
those
areas.
Usually
how
that's
addressed
in
the
industry
is
they
form
like
a
residential
zone?
L
So
then
the
people
that
could
park
in
there
would
be
the
people
in
that
zone.
They
would
get
permits
for
their
vehicle
and
they'd
be
the
only
ones
that
were
allowed
to
park
in
there.
We
would
sign
it
as
such,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
for
my
understanding
we
really
don't
have
a
consensus
among
those.
So
at
that
point,
then
our
parking
system
is
getting
in
the
middle
of
a
neighborhood
dispute
and
we
tend
to
shy
away
from
those.
Unless
we
have.
L
You
know
a
significant,
and
I
I
don't
know
enough
about-
I
haven't
spoken,
so
I'm
just
talking.
You
know
overall
not
talking
specifically
about
the
issue
that
you're
you're
asking
me
about,
but
jeremy.
I
think.
C
The
chief
could
probably
talk
to
that.
He
gets
a
lot
for
his
from
his
officers.
Getting
complaints
about
the
residential.
C
M
Dan
slaughter,
chief
of
police,
jeremy
actually
doing
a
pretty
good
job
answering
it.
It
has
been
an
issue
with
consensus
among
the
neighborhoods.
We
do
have
the
public
access
points
that
are
up
there,
that
kind
of
drive
some
traffic
going
there
and
we've
always
had
this
difficult
balance
of
the
residents
want
to
use
it
for
the
purpose
of
whether
it's
guests
or
or
for
their
own
particular
use.
But
then
so
we
can't
just
do
a
no
parking
zone.
M
The
only
parking
tickets,
the
police
department
really
writes,
are
your
no
parking
zones
and
your
handicap
violations.
We
don't
deal
with
the
meters,
so
that
is
by
far
the
citations
that
we
write.
The
most
are
the
ones
on
north
beach
in
those
residential
communities
in
those
zones,
but
it's
definitely
been
a
challenge
and
we
definitely
would
want
to
be
in
favor
of
trying
to
drive
people
to
the
more
efficient
public
parking
spaces.
M
So
there's
been
back
and
forth
through
signage
over
the
course
of
the
year
and
discussion
about
residential
permits
and
as
jeremy
stated,
there
hasn't
really
been
a
consensus
on
that
from
the
residents
sure
good.
F
And
then
do
you
have
information
on
so
there
are
discount
stickers
or
tags
that
residents
who
might
not
you
know
who
don't
live
on
so
clearwater
residents
can
use
to
park
in
lots
in
on
the
beach.
Are
those
usually
utilized
to
the
maximum.
L
So
what
we
have
I-
and
I
think
this
is
one
you're
talking
about
yeah
and
it
will
pass
the
annual
pass
and
really
what
that
was
intended
to
do
was
to
give
people
that
don't
they
they
live
in
clear
water,
they're
residents
of
clear
water,
but
not
on
the
beach
to
give
them
access
so
that
you
know
they're
they're,
living
in
clear
water,
paying
taxes
that
kind
of
stuff,
so
they're
sitting
there
citizens.
So
we
want
to
give
them
an
opportunity
to
have
a
cheaper
way
to
get
to
the
beach
it.
L
L
What
we're
seeing
now
is
we're
sold
out
so
we're
also
seeing
that
a
lot
of-
and
I
don't-
I
don't-
have
the
hard
numbers
I
I
haven't
delved
into
it
enough
to
really
give
you
hard
numbers,
but
there's
a
significant
portion
of
people
that
actually
live
on
the
beach
that
have
gotten
those
not
so
that
they
can
come
to
the
beach
and
utilize
the
beach,
but
so
that
they
have
an
extra
parking
space
for
their
car.
That's
really
not
what
it
was
intended
for.
It
was
intended
for
you
know
somebody
that
lives.
L
You
know
landlocked
yeah
and
to
come
and
use
the
beach.
So
we'll
we're
gonna.
Have
that's
gonna,
be
an
issue
going
forward.
We're
gonna
have
to
address
it
and
you
know,
and
then
we
get
into
the
you
know.
Do
we
tell
a
somebody?
That's
purchased
the
permit
for
the
last
five
years
that
you
know.
Sorry,
you
can't
you
live
on
the
beach,
so
you
can't
get
this
permit
that
you
know
to
be
determined.
F
N
I
don't
know
the
definite
number,
but
I
can't
tell
you
between
marine
and
aviation
parking
we
have
about
70
in
the
marina
parking
lot
itself:
city,
employees
alone,
plus
the
clearwater
beach
rec
center,
which
parks
about
the
lifeguards,
our
parks
and
rec
people,
people
working
on
the
beach
to
be
breaking
equipment.
So
there
is
a
considerable
amount.
B
I
have
to
agree
that
was
a
great
presentation.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
brought
up
sustainability
and
and
went
into
a
lot
of
detail
about
wanting
to
get
this
worked
into.
Our
system
I
was
curious,
was
most
of
the
feedback.
We
got
from
people
on
the
beach
negative
toward
parking
structures.
C
Any
time
that
they
were
right
on
the
sand,
the
feedback
was
very
negative
because.
B
B
But
if
there
was
a
parking
structure
that
could
handle
the
the
the
cars
that
are
coming
there,
we
wouldn't
have
the
non-stop
traffic
jams
that
we
have
getting
to
the
beach.
Would
we.
C
B
I
used
to
live
on
north
beach
myself.
When
I
first
moved
here
and
yeah
there
was
traffic.
I
don't
think
it
was
anywhere
near
as
bad
as
it
is
now.
C
If
you
were
here
back
when
the
old
bridge
was
here
and
it
ran
right
down
cleveland
street,
it
was
far
worse
back
then
and
when
the
roundabout
wasn't
there
which
a
lot
of
people
hate,
but
it
was
much
worse
prior
to
that
too.
F
One
last
thing
I
just
want
to
on
your
sustainability
slide.
You
know
there
are
ev
charging
stations
right
on
the
beach,
so
we
have
sherry.
Heilemann's
beachcomber
has
a
charging
station
indian
rocks
beach
has
charging
stations
that
you
know
saint
pete
pierre
now
is
charging
their
charging
stations
in
st
pete
right
next
to
the
water.
So
you
know,
that's
that's
a
positive
thing.
F
That's
that's
happening,
and
then
you
know,
as
far
as
retrofitting
led
fixtures
every
day
that
we
don't
have
led
light
bulbs
in
we're
losing
money,
so
that
should
be
done
like
whether
or
not
a
light
bulb
is
out
or
not.
I
believe,
and
then
one
last
thing
about
you
know
the
phrasing
here
would
any
of
our
facilities
benefit
from
solar
energy.
F
Our
all
of
our
facilities
will
benefit
from
solar
energy.
It's
just
whether
or
not
we
want
to
take
that
step
and
and
save
money,
so
just
wanted
to
make
those
points.
C
L
Yes,
it
was,
but
I
can
certainly
get
you
those
those
numbers.
It
was
not
a
formal
outside.
C
Stuff,
no,
no,
it
was
okay.
You
mentioned
business
should
park
in
the
back
and
our
employees.
That
is
not
the
case
at
the
garden
street
garage
all
of
the
employees
park
at
the
very
front.
All
of
the
parking
system.
I've
always
gotten
questions
about
that
from
people
that
utilize
that
garage
staying
on
that
garage.
L
I
guess
the
the
most
honest
way
to
answer
that
question.
I've
certainly
seen
worse.
I
mean
I
I
don't
know
a
lot
of
that
looks
like
it's.
It's
the
superficial
structure.
It's
not
like
foundational,
where
I
just
came
from
they're,
actually
at
the
point
now
where
they
think
they
have
to
rip
down
the
whole
garage
because
of
neglect
over
the
years.
So
it's
in
a
harsh
environment.
L
It
was
looked
at
just
a
couple
years
ago
there
was
a
study
done
that
they
identified
these
issues
and
what
has
to
be
done,
but
when
you
get
into
them
like
anything,
you
know,
you
think
it's
one
problem
and
you
you
tear
out
some
sheet
rock
in
your
house
and
you
find
out
boy.
I
got
a
bigger
problem
than
we
thought
we
had.
So
it's
really
really
hard
to
say.
I'm
just
pleased
it's
not
a
cop-out,
it's
just
it's
really
hard
to
say.
Without
you
know
I
I
I
wasn't
there.
L
C
C
B
L
And
that's
why
I
covered
in
the
slide.
We
have
walker
coming
in
to
kind
of
lay
out
that
that
road
map
of
where
we
need
to
go
all
along
the
way
over
the
next
10
years.
Now
that
doesn't
mean
that
that
something
you
know
can't
come
back
and
and
bite
us
when
we
rip
into
those
walls
and
find
that
oh,
we
got,
you
know
termite
damage
that
we
didn't
know
about
or
not
on
a
metal
structure,
obviously
constructor.
But
you
know
what
I'm
saying
the
analogy
that
I'm
making
there
so
but
yeah
tara.
Do
you.
O
Tara
kivit
engineering
director,
we
did
do
some
inspections
on
both
the
msb
and
the
garden
avenue
garage
in
2012
and
then
again
in
2018,
and
both
of
those
time
periods
did
result
in
some
rehab
work,
so
the
2018
inspection.
O
I
I
think
it
wasn't
built
as
it
would
now.
You
know
this
was
the
the
garage
was
constructed
constructed
in
86,
and
so
now
there's
a
different
design
standard,
but
without
it
would
have
been
awfully
complicated,
both
on
the
design,
side
and
construction
to
completely
redo
that
so
we're
redoing
it
in
materials
that
will
last
longer
and
will
function
better
and
then,
obviously
now
it's
on
the
radar
moving
forward
to
include
that
more
in
the
inspection
you
know
again,
it
was
before
my
time
when
we
were
doing
these
inspections.
G
C
So
jeremy
you're
going
to
come
back
with
a
pricing
study
at
some
point
in
the
near
future.
L
Yes,
well,
walker
is
what
we're
waiting
for
there.
I'm
sorry
to
try
this
out,
but
the
we
have
two
garages
that
we
own
outright
the
garden
avenue
garage
the
msb
garage,
two
they're
co-owned.
L
So
I'm
in
the
process
now
of
working
with
the
north
beach
parking
lot,
our
partners
at
north
beach
parking
plaza
as
well
as
station
square,
to
kind
of
get
them
on
board,
because
I,
I
honestly
don't
know
they
have
maintenance
contracts
with
other
companies,
private
companies
so
checking
to
make
sure
that
that's
being
done
on
there
or
if
I
need
to
incorporate
those
in
the
overall
study
for
our
other
garages.
That's
what
I'm
working
on!
That's
where
the
project
is
right.
L
C
L
L
The
fees
downtown
okay,
so
yes,
no,
we
will
be
coming
to
you
with
a
price
increase
along
with
those
zones
that
I
pointed
out,
the
blue
and
the
pink
some
being
free
for
two
hours,
some
being
a
dollar
an
hour,
moving
up
to
a
dollar
an
hour
and
the
park
mobile
fees.
It
would
not
change.
I
mean
they're
35
cents
if
you
pay
3.50
cents
an
hour
on
the
beach
or
if
you
pay
50
cents
an
hour
here.
There's
there's
that's
throughout
the
system.
We
wouldn't
be
changing
that.
C
C
We
used
to
pure60,
we
will
remember
this.
We
probably
still
do
it
we'll,
put
up
a
barrier
saying
it's
full
and
then
the
emails
start
flowing
in
because
people
drive
by
and
they
count
how
many
spaces
they
can
see
from
the
road
that
are
empty,
and
so,
if
we
were
using
some
signage,
that
said,
there's
no
parking
on
south
beach
or
north
beach.
Q
C
L
What
we
see
there's
becomes
difficult,
sometimes
in
a
situation
like
that
in
a
high
demand,
lot
or
structure.
If
you
try
to
do
it,
one
person
leaves
you
let
one
person
in
you
always
have
the
next
people
they're
queuing
up,
okay,
but
there's
one
space
available,
so
they
come
in.
But
now
that
you
know
three
more
people
queue
up
right
behind
them
and
sorry
we're
only
letting
one
in
and
so
then
they
got
to
turn
around
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
L
So
it's
not
uncommon,
just
as
a
a
traffic
calming
scheme
or
to
wait
until
there's
a
number
of
spaces,
10
15,
so
depending
on
the
size
of
your
facility,
your
lot
or
what
not
wait
until
there's
and
then
open
it
up.
Let
15
cars
in
and
then
shut
it
again,
but
we
can
do
better.
F
Are
your
thoughts
I
mean
I
ask
you
too,
but
what
about
the
whole
dunedin
issue
with
parking
where
they
put
in
those
parking
kiosks
and
there
was
a
big
uproar
and
they
ended
up
covering
them
and
then
removing
them?
How?
How
does
that
compare
with
us
downtown,
though
I
mean
obviously
we're
not
going
to
make
everybody
happy
right,
and
we
don't
have
enough
people
downtown
right
now,
and
so
you
know
what
lessons
would
we
take
away
from
what
dunedin
went
through.
C
Well,
I
you
know
we're
seeing
right
now
that
I
guess
we
put,
you
know,
paid
parking
now
in
front
of
fretchy's
cafe
and
now
I
think,
we've
taken
it
down.
L
Right,
so
what
that
was,
I
don't
know,
I'm
so
good.
K
Well,
I
haven't
messed
it
up.
We're
talking
about
the
same
thing
is
that
we
eliminated
one
of
one
hour
free
parking
as
part
of
parking
systems
staff
trying
to
address
some
issues
that
resulted
in
a
phone
call
to
me
from
a
business
owner,
pointing
out
the
disruption
and
the
difficulty
that
that
was
causing
there.
K
And
then
I
think
you
got
a
phone
call
from
somebody
complaining
about
it,
and
so
what
I
did
was,
I
just
simply
called
jeremy
said:
let's
suspend
any
more
changes
until
after
we
had
this
presentation,
because
those
are
the
kinds
of
issues
that
we're
going
to
have
to
address.
C
I
mean
I've
worked
in
downtown
for
20
years
and
I
think
I've
told
this
story.
At
least
you
all
have
heard
it,
but
we
had
assistance
that
back
in
the
day
we
had
free
parking
downtown,
and
so
they
weren't
parking
in
the
parking
garage
that
was
dedicated
for
them
because
it
was
27
a
month,
so
they
would
park
all
day
long
in
the
free
spots.
Then
we
increased
it
to
a
dime.
C
C
So
they
were
losing
about
10
minutes
of
productivity
per
hour
so
that
they
could
get
80
cent
parking
per
day,
which
was
still
cheaper
than
being
in
the
garage.
So
then
we
raised
the
rate
that
eliminated.
The
problem
I
mean
parking
is
really
an
example
of
unintended
consequences
and
I
know
you're
trying
to
fix
in
equities
all
over
the
beach
I'd
like
to
know
not
not.
Today
we
need
to
move
on,
but
you.
C
All
the
inequities
are
that
we're
trying
to
eliminate
so
that
we're
at
least
aware
of
what
we're
going
to
get
complaints
about,
because
again,
what
people
have
become
accustomed
to
they
just
like
status
quo,
whether
it
makes
sense
or
not
whether
it's
equitable
to
the
rest
of
the
beach
or
not.
They
don't
like
change.
K
Q
Q
Q
K
Nine
and
ten
of
jones
subdivision
of
nicholson,
addition
to
clearwater
block,
seven,
eight,
nine,
ten
and
ten,
as
recorded
in
plaid
book,
four
page
eighty-two
of
the
public
records
in
hillsborough,
county
of
which
pinellas
county
was
once
part
less
and
except
that
portion
line
270.6
feet
on
the
east
line
of
section
9,
township
29,
south
range
15
east
also
less
and
accept
the
railroads
rights
of
way,
as
recorded
in
official
records
book
6626
page
429
of
the
public
records
of
pinellas
county
florida
and
passed
the
appropriate
ordinance
on
first
reading.
Mr
bersay.
P
Thank
you,
mr
horn.
Good
morning,
this
easement
is
located
entirely
on
city
property
and
it
isn't
needed
for
municipal
use,
city
staff
recommend
vacation
of
the
easement.
Any
questions.
K
Awarded
construction
contract
to
tlc
diversified
inc
of
palmetto
florida
in
the
amount
of
2
million
497
605
dollars
for
the
marshall
street
water
reclamation
facility,
blending
tank
improvements
per
invitation
to
bid
approved
engineer
of
records,
supplemental
one
work
order
to
jones
edmonds
and
associates
in
the
amount
of
326
thousand
six
hundred
thirty
four
dollars
increasing
the
work
order,
total
from
one
hundred
and
sixty
three
thousand
to
four
hundred
and
eighty
nine
thousand
six
hundred
and
thirty
four
dollars
and
authorize
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
saying
mr
brown
again.
Q
Thank
you
again.
My
name
is
jeremy
brown.
Excuse
me,
I'm
the
engineering
manager
for
utilities,
the
structural,
supports
piping
and
other
key
components
of
this
marshall
street
sludge.
Blending
tank
are
in
poor
condition
and
reaching
the
end
of
their
useful
life.
The
purpose
of
this
project
is
to
perform
the
necessary
repairs
and
improvements
that
will
improve,
mixing
and
provide
ease
of
equipment,
operation
and
maintenance
happy
to
respond
to
any
questions.
F
Sludge,
blending
tanks
right
improve,
mixing
sounds
fun,
okay.
So
what
I
just
noted
here
for
my
notes
is
that's
a
really
big
increase
and-
and
it
seems
frequently
you
know-
we're
asked
to
approve
these
increases
and
I
understand
that
projects
start
and
then
we
get
into
unknowns,
but
it
seems
that
you
know
I
just
like
to
know
statistically-
and
you
wouldn't
know
this
off
the
top
of
your
head.
How
frequently
are
we
asked
to
increase
that
budget
and
how
does
it
differ
from
the
rfp?
That
was,
you
know
the
the
quote
that
was
supplied?
F
Q
It's
a
great
question:
I'm
not
sure
I
quite
understand
the
increase.
Are
you
referring
to
the
the
construction
costs
or,
if
we're
adding
more
to
the.
Q
Q
We
don't,
we
will
generally
release
utilities.
We
prefer
not
to
do
that,
because
we
really
don't
know
what
how
long
the
construction
is
going
to
be,
or
even
what
it's
going
to
entail
until
we're
done
with
the
design,
and
so
so
historically,
we've
always
gone
through
the
design
process
and
then
once
we
recognize
okay,
this
is
what
we're
going
to
design.
This
is
how
long
it's
going
to
take.
We
bring
the
additional
cost
to
oversee
the
work
along
with
the
contractor's
bid
like
we're
doing
today,.
Q
Q
O
Good
question:
tara,
kivit
engineering
director,
especially
the
highly
technical
projects
at
the
wastewater
treatment
plants,
if
you're
not
designing
them
and
doing
them
every
day.
It's
it's.
You
know
our
our
civil
engineers.
We
don't
have
that
kind
of
expertise.
You
know
roadway
projects,
things
like
that.
So,
in
addition
to
expert
to
resources,
it's
also
a
matter
of
level
of
expertise,
so
we're
more
comfortable
hiring
a
design
consultant
who
that's
all
they
do.
Is
they
design
wastewater
treatment
plants.
K
The
conveyance
of
a
distribution
easement
to
duke
energy,
florida,
llc,
dba,
duke
energy,
for
the
installation,
operation
and
maintenance
of
electric
facilities
from
an
existing,
duke
transformer,
located
on
city
property
to
a
duke
pedestal,
located
in
the
right-of-way
that
will
support
a
verizon
cell
pole.
Mr
bursay.
Thank
you,
mr
horn.
P
P
C
D
P
Well,
it's
actually
that's
where
the
facilities
are
actually
proposed
to
go.
They're
not
built
yet,
of
course,
but
there's
a
transformer
where
the
little
blue
triangle
is
right,
that
there's
a
transformer.
Apparently
there,
okay
and
they're,
gonna
they're
gonna
run
facilities
to
the
end
where
this
yellow
line
is
that's
where
the
proposed
cell
tower
is
in
the
right
way.
Unfortunately,
legislation
lesson
allows
them
to
do
that.
Are
we
getting
a
lease
payment.
H
H
O
Tara
kivit
engineering
director,
I
don't
know
the
exact
height,
but
we
do
there's
some
serious
legislative
restrictions
here
that
we
really
can't
say
no
to
the
bulk
of
these
requests,
and
so,
oh
great,
thank
you.
There's
a
there's,
a
visual,
so
we
try
to
work
with
the
providers
to
try
to
find
a
place.
That
is
the
least
obtrusive.
O
There's
all
sorts
of
different
types
of
these
cell
towers,
but
but
yes,
they're,
eventually
being
installed
to
support
5g,
but
next
time
you're
out
there
driving
around
they're
they're
black
there's
one
on
devon.
That's
a
good
example
right
at
that
triangle-shaped
island
right
off
of
yeah,
so
that
that's
a
good
kind
of
precursor.
But
we
can,
you
know
I'll,
try
I'll,
send
you
an
update,
I'll
share
with
all
of
you,
some
of
the
input
we've
gotten
from
our
legal
team
about
really
what
options
we
have.
We
have
very
few
options.
C
I
see
cell
towers
disguised,
sometimes
that's
right
in
the
center
of
our
front
front
yard,
so
consent
all
right.
We're
going
to
take
a
a
quick
recess,
we're
at
the
two
hour
mark.
N
C
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
K
Approved
settlement
of
workers,
compensation
claim
1900
one
three:
three:
four
payment
of
one
hundred
and
twelve
thousand
five
hundred
dollars;
inclusive
of
attorney
fees
and
costs
from
william
and
rodney,
with
a
general
release
of
all
claims
and
authorize.
The
appropriate
officials
to
execute
saying
mr
rosario.
R
Thank
you,
mr
horn.
Good
morning,
rick
osorio
risk
manager.
Mr
now
rodney
was
an
active
duty
police
officer
with
the
clearwater
police
department,
as
us
june
12
2006.
in
november
of
2019,
he
sustained
a
neck
and
right
shoulder
injury
while
on
duty
as
a
result
of
this
injury,
he
had
surgery
during
february
2020.
R
However,
due
to
continuing
symptoms,
he
was
relegated
to
light
duty
work
status
due
to
his
inability
in
inability
to
fully
return
to
work.
The
city
spent
approximately
90
000
in
total
for
his
medical
treatment,
legal
and
investigative
costs
and
disability
payments.
To
date,
the
city
faces
potential
future
payments
of
seventy
thousand
for
the
treatment
of
his
condition
and
complications
and
sixty
thousand
in
disability
payments.
If,
if
his
condition
worsens
along
with
additional
legal
and
investigative
costs
that
could
reach
ten
thousand
dollars,
the
city's
potential
exposure
is
approximately
140
000.
R
In
future
medical
care
lost
wages
and
legal
fees.
A
mediation
was
agreed
to
and
held
on
september
17
2020,
which
eventually
resulted
in
a
settlement
of
112
500.
On
october,
15
2020
contingent
on
council
approval
the
risk
management
division.
The
outside
attorney
for
the
city
of
clearwater
banker,
lopez,
gasler
pa
and
the
city's
claims
committee
recommend
approval.
R
D
D
C
K
J
J
K
An
addendum
to
an
agreement
with
exxon
enterprise,
inc
of
scottsdale
arizona
in
the
amount
of
seventeen
thousand
three
hundred
nineteen
dollars,
plus
a
contingency
amount
of
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
interview,
room,
recording
equipment
and
licenses
in
accordance
with
the
clarita
code
of
ordinances.
Section
two
point:
five:
six:
four
one
d:
other
government
entities
bids
and
authorize
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
saying
cheap.
G
S
So
I'm
sure
it
switches
things
up
that
we
didn't
anticipate
me
presenting
it
today,
but
this
item
back
in
february
of
2019,
the
council
approved
an
agreement
between
axon
and
the
city
for
our
digital
evidence
management
system
and
that
which
ultimately
became
the
foundation
for
body
cameras
in
april
of
2019.
The
city
council
also
approved
an
agreement
for
five
interview:
room
cameras
in
our
dui
room,
which
are
already
in
place
as
a
result
of
the
deadly
force.
Investigations
task
force
were
asked
seeking
permission
to
add
two
more
camera
systems
to
our
existing
system.
S
It's
a
national
resource
for
public
entities
to
obtain
pricing.
The
price
of
this
camera
is
approximately
two
cameras:
approximately
9
200,
with
the
annual
recurring
cost
of
approximately
2
600
per
year,
so
that
the
course
of
the
cost
of
the
agreement
over
the
course
of
it
will
be
approximately
eight
thousand
dollars
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Any
questions
for
chief
dalton.
D
I
know
you
know
we,
we
always
see
contingency
numbers
on
these
things,
but
for
a
17
000
project
to
have
a
50
000
contingency.
That
seems
like
a
big
contingency.
S
And
we're
trying
to
avoid
having
to
come
back
to
with
all
these
incremental
additions
of
cameras.
You
see
the
cost
of
this
one
to
add.
Two
cameras
is
approximately
ten
thousand
dollars.
We
don't
anticipate
using
it
but
to
prohibit
us
or
prevent
us
from
having
to
come
back
every
time
we
wanna
add
two
cameras
here
or
a
camera.
Here,
that's
anticipated
over
the
life
of
the
contract,
so
we
don't
anticipate,
as
I
said,
spending
it.
But
if
we
do,
we
could
add
two
cameras,
another
room
here,
another
room.
S
F
Okay,
so
we
have
six
interview
rooms,
five
for
criminal
investigations
and
one
for
dui.
How
often
are
they
all
in
use
at
the
same
time?
At
the
same
time,
I
mean
is
that
why
you
have.
S
F
S
F
G
S
S
S
At
the
same
time,
in
our
existing
interview,
rooms,
they're
used
all
the
time
I
mean,
obviously
not
all
at
the
same
time,
but
they're
a
little
small
they're,
basically
set
up
for
the
individual
being
interviewed
and
perhaps
a
detective
or
two,
but
now
you're
talking
about
bringing
in
the
state
attorney's
office
the
officers
council,
our
detectives,
that
you
start
adding
five
or
six
seven
people
in
a
room
and
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
small
space
when
our
existing
interview
rooms
are
a
little
small
to
accommodate
what
you
might
have
between
seven
and
ten
people
in
the
room.
S
So
this
will
give
us
the
infrastructure
to
to
accommodate
that
and
have
their
recording
ability
already
set
up
in
there.
F
S
F
T
Good
morning,
mayor
council
of
scotland,
fire
chief
clearwater
fire
and
rescue
this
item
before
you
is
a
request
to
approve
this
selection
of
biltmore
construction
as
the
construction
manager
at
risk
for
fire
station
46
on
clearwater
beach.
Approximately
a
year
ago,
we
started
the
process
to
redo
fire
station
46
located
on
north
beach.
The
process
included
selection
of
an
architect
record,
as
well
as
several
months
of
identifying
the
needs
and
the
ability
to
maintain
the
fire
station
in
its
current
location.
T
This
fire
station
is
a
critical
asset
for
public
safety
in
the
north
beach
area,
as
well
as
an
icon
for
all
that
visit
the
area
as
mentioned
earlier.
The
challenges
of
this
location
and
the
needs
of
its
community
were
all
overwhelming,
but
we
have
been
able
to
overcome
them
and
provide
design
that
fulfills
a
requirement.
T
C
D
Well,
I
I
you
know,
I
appreciate
our
one-on-ones
chief
and
I
see
station
46
almost
daily,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
it.
You
know,
and
and
not
to
I'm
not
trying
to
throw
a
fly
in
the
ointment.
Here.
D
Trust
me,
I'm
not,
but
this
is
because
you-
and
I
had
this
conversation-
you
know
if
we
could
go
back
five
six
years
from
where
we
are
today.
You
know
if
we'd
be
looking
at
that
entire
parcel
of
land
we
could
have.
You
know
we
could
address
a
parking
need
and
incorporate
a
new
fire
station
into
the
design
of
the
parking
structure.
D
C
Other
comments
or
questions,
it's
stated
in
the
agenda
item
chief
that
bill
moore's
built
a
lot
in
the
flood
hazard
areas.
What
other
projects
have
they
done?.
T
G
D
O
Tara
kivan
engineering
director
they've
done
many
stations
down
in
the
keys,
mostly
marathon,
that
area
so
a
lot
down
there.
I
was
involved
in
some
of
their
earlier
rfqs
because
for
the
city,
as
you
know,
they
have
built
the
main
station.
45
biltmore
also
constructed
the
countryside.
Station
50.,
but
biltmore
specifically
has
done
a
lot
of
work
in
the
keys.
K
Provide
direction
on
the
proposed
hotel
development
agreement
between
key
clearwater
llc,
who
is
the
property
owner
in
the
city
of
clearwater,
providing
for
the
allocation
of
three
units
from
the
hotel
density
reserve
on
the
beach
by
design
and
confirm
a
second
public
hearing
in
city,
council
chambers,
before
city
council
on
november
19,
2020
at
6
pm
or
as
soon
thereafter.
As
may
be
heard.
Mr
perry.
U
This
request
and
the
next
request
are
very,
very
much
related
and
if
it's
okay,
I'd
like
to
do,
maybe
just
one
overall
presentation
to
save
a
little
perfect,
okay,
great
so
I'll,
speak
to
both
of
them
at
the
same
time.
So
these
are
two
hotel
development
agreements.
Three
units
are
proposed
to
be
allocated
to
what
we're
calling
parcel
a
which
is
the
northerly
parcel
and
two
units
are
proposed
to
be
allocated
to
parcel
b,
which
is
the
more
southerly
parcel.
U
Although
at
this
point
it
is
only
one
parcel,
there's
only
one
parcel
id
number
and
that's
why
both
of
the
requests
have
the
same
address
so
a
little
bit
of
history,
just
just
a
little
bit,
both
of
the
site
consists
of
two
hotels.
It
originally
consisted
of
five
parcels
that
were
combined
together
into
two
parcels:
partial
light
parcel
b
at
some
point,
we're
not
sure
the
pinellas
county
property,
appraiser,
apparently
combined
them
through
a
combination.
U
U
They
only
built
a
total
of
255
and
both
development
agreements.
Well,
all
of
our
hotel
development
agreements
require
that
if
you
don't
build
all
of
the
units
well
any
units
that
you
had
allocated
that
you
didn't
build.
Well,
they
go
back
into
the
reserve,
which
is
exactly
what
happened.
So
a
total
of
five
units
went
back
into
the
reserve,
which
is
where
the
three
units
being
allocated
to
parcel
a
and
the
two
units
being
allocated
to
parcel
b.
That's
the
five
units
that
they
want
to
re-rebuild
onto
the
site.
U
So
there's
that
aspect
and
there's
a
part
where
both
parcels
were
combined
together.
That
combination
caused
a
few
problems.
First
of
all,
beach
by
design
says
that
you
can't
allocate
more
than
100
units
to
any
given
parcel,
so
the
second
that
they
combine
both
parcels
into
one
parcel.
Now
they
had
like
174
units,
so
the
choices
were
either
give
back
74
units
and
we'll
call
it
even
or
we
need
to
split
these
parcels
back
out.
So
so
that's
another
aspect
of
this
that
they
will
recreate
two
parcels.
U
U
U
D
U
F
U
Right
and
and
the
reason
that
the
proposed
property
line,
which
would
be
the
common
adjoining
property
line
between
partial,
a
and
parcel
b,
does
all
those
gymnastics
is
to
simply
avoid
bifurcating
any
hotel
units.
We
can't
have
half
a
hotel
unit
on
one
side
and
a
half
on
the
other,
so
it's
specifically
drawn
to
avoid
units.
C
K
K
V
So
it
made
sense
for
us
to
put
some
time
limits
on
the
ordinance,
and
you
know
since
last
time
we
further
evaluated
the
three
hour
time
limit
and
we've
increased
that
to
four
that
gives
one
extra
hour
for
events
or
some
other
dinner
plans
or
whatever
the
user
was
going
to
take
advantage
of,
but
with
respect
to
the
ordinance
and
the
enforcement
right.
Now
we
are
going
to
opposing
proposing
to
use
pinellas
county's
uniform,
fine
schedule
for
local
ordinances.
V
V
So
you
see
that
the
the
county
and
the
fish
and
wildlife
have
already
put
together
a
group
of
violations
of
this
nature
and
that's
the
one
we're
proposing
to
follow,
and
it
would
be
cumbersome
talking
to
pd
to
try
to
alter
that
and
do
something
differently
for
us.
So
we
have
not
changed
how
we
want
to
enforce
this.
So
I
just
wanted
to
be
more
clear
on
on
how
we
got
to
this
position.
D
G
D
So
I'm
okay,
there.
I
hope
I
don't
ever
have
to
pay
it,
but-
and
I
think
the
four
hour
is
a
reasonable
time,
because
you
know
using
the
palm
pavilion
or
frenchies
as
an
example.
Someone
comes
by
boat,
docks
comes
and
has
a
meal
listens
to
a
little
music
and
then
wants
to
take
a
walk
on
the
beach
three
hours.
For
that
entire
time
could
get
a
little
dicey.
Four
hours
is
more
reasonable
and
I
you
know
trying
to
encourage
people
to
you,
know,
be
active
and
do
things.
G
H
Agree
with
the
sweet
spot
too
four
hours
is
a
lot
better
than
three
for
making
it
welcome.
My
concern
is
is
how
to
how
we're
going
to
monitor
that,
and
I
know
we're
going
to
have
to
put
signage
up,
probably
first
to
do
that
and
then
you'll
have
to
come
up
with
some
way
that
if
it
does
get
abused
that
you
find
out
what
that
hourly.
You
know
when
people
get
there
and
when
they
leave
and
how,
how
you
know
that
so
you're
using
cameras.
V
We're
going
to
use
cameras
and
and
that'll
be
very
easy
for
us
to
see
when
vessels
arrive
and
depart,
because
we
can
back
the
cameras
up
and
we'll
have
time
stamps
when
they're
there
and
usually
the
the
complaints
on
these
public
docs
don't
come
from
the
city.
They
come
from
the
people
around
the
public
docs.
We
get
the
complaints
from
the
businesses
over
there,
some
of
the
condominiums
they
have.
They
will
tell
you
hey
this
vessel's,
been
there
all
day,
it's
been
there
overnight,
so
we
have
our
own
little
code
enforcement
around
these
public
docks.
F
V
Yes-
and
we
do
have
a
problem
with
that,
so
when
we
make
our
new
signs
for
this
we're
going
to
have
directional
signs
for
the
kayaks
and
jet
skis
they
can
park
on
the
back
sides
of
these
docks
or
in
one
slip
in
particular.
We
can
isolate
one
for
these
kayaks
because
what
happens
is
you'll,
have
a
a
40
foot
slip
and
a
bigger
boat
is
coming
in.
They
don't
see
that
that
kayak
down
in
the
slip
until
it's
oh
gosh,
I
was
gonna.
V
I
was
gonna
dock
here
now
I've
gotta,
you
know
abort
and
try
to
fit
into
another
slip,
so
we're
gonna
have
some
signs.
That'll
tell
you
the
the
size
of
the
slip.
So
when
you're
coming-
and
you
already
know-
you're
too
big
or
too
small
for
it
and
try
to
direct
those
smaller
vessels
elsewhere,.
D
Council,
member
hamilton,
yes,
that
raises
another
question
for
me,
but
you
know
as
far
as
kayaks
are
concerned,
is
it
possible
to
have
some
sort
of
rack
so
that
a
kayak,
for
instance,
I
mean
most
people
are
used
to
putting
their
kayaks
in
the
water
and
pulling
it
out
of
the
water?
So
what
would
be
you
know
a
kayak
being
being
able
to
take
the
kayak
out
of
the
water
and
putting
it
somewhere
up
on
land
and
out
of
the
way
so
that
it's
not
sitting
in
a
in
a
slip?
That's
my
first
question.
D
V
It's
going
to
be
pd
and
marine
patrol
okay,
now
the
kayaks.
Well,
I
mean
that's
a
little
bit
awkward
depending
on
the
location.
You
know
if
the
city
owns
the
uplands
adjacent
to
these
docks,
I
guess
you
could
put
some
racks
there,
but
don't
we
not
in
all
cases
like
behind
the
aquarium,
the
aquarium
owns
the
uplands
behind
island
way,
grill
island
way,
grill
owns
the
uplands,
the
beach
rec
center.
Yes,
we
do
own
the
uplands
behind
the
sand
pearl
dock.
V
I
I
would,
I
will
add
that
the
kayaks
that
we
see
most
at
these
public
docks
are
not
the
recreational
kayaks
they're,
the
kayaks
that
are
coming
from
the
liveaboards
out
in
the
harbor.
So
people
use
those
kayaks
to
come
to
the
beach
and
they
stay
there
all
day.
V
So
that's
why
we
have
the
problem
with
a
kayak
in
a
slip
all
day,
so
we
had
the
problem
at
the
beach
marina,
with
a
kayak
platform
and
fish
and
wildlife
told
me
several
years
ago
that
that's
an
attractor
you're
going
to
have
the
more
access
you
give
to
to
those
to
your
facility.
The
more
of
these
people,
mooring
around
it
are
going
to
be
so
we
had
people
that
were
working
on
the
beach
or
going
anywhere,
and
they
would
keep
these
kayaks
all
day
long.
We
didn't
know
whose
they
were.
They
were
not
tagged.
V
K
C
W
Morning,
rich
gardner
assistant,
director,
public
utilities,
the
arsenic
removal
media
is
used
to
remove
naturally
occurring
arsenic,
that's
in
the
raw
water
prior
to
treatment
and
distribution
at
our
ro1
water
treatment
plant.
There
were
two
bidders
for
this
contract
adage
was
a
low
bidder
and
it's
a
not
to
exceed
contract.
This
is
a
one-year
contract
with
the
option
for
two
one-year
renewals
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
C
F
Wanted
to
thank
you
sincerely
for
putting
that
notation
on
there
about
the
bids
and-
and
I
know,
there's
another
one
coming
up,
but
that
none
of
them
were
from
minority
or
women-owned
businesses
that
submitted
a
bit.
But
I
do
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
W
These
pipe
and
fittings
are
stocked
in
public
utilities,
warehouse
and
used
in
the
construction
of
new
pipelines
and
repair
of
existing
ones.
There
were
eight
bidders
for
this
contract
for
the
ferguson.
Waterworks
was
the
low
bidder
again
not
to
it's
a
not
to
exceed
contract.
This
is
a
one-year
contract
with
the
option
for
two
one-year
renewals
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Any
questions.
W
X
Remainder
of
an
it
term
march:
31st
2021.,
council
members
in
your
agenda:
applications
for
julie,
battaglia,
miranda,
douglas
roger
shulman,
aaron
smith,
levin,
david
ferrar,
dina
stanley,
michael
bergeron
and
nicole
kent,
miss
kent,
mr
ken
marlow
has
resigned
and
he
was
serving
and
his
he
was
filling
his
first
term.
Sorry.
D
B
Well
I
really
want
to
do
this
and
then,
when
I
I
got
to
the
clearwater
academy
last
year
or
you
know,
aaron
seemed
to
be
a
legend
for
being
the
guy
asking
lots
of
good
questions
and
he
mentions
in
his
resume
that
he
worked
on
the
last
campaign.
He
was
one
of
my
advisors
on
that,
but
I
still
stand
behind
him
as
a
terrific
supporter
of
the
community
and
a
detail-oriented
guy.
B
F
I
like
miranda
douglas
for
this
I
mean
I
I
like
that
she's
got
a
minority
female-owned
business
she's,
a
lifelong
resident
in
the
area
and
she's
been
a
leader
in
a
number
of
ways
throughout
our
community,
with
different
non-profits,
the
underwater
urban
leadership
coalition,
and
really
taken
an
initiative.
I
think,
should
be
a
great
addition
there
for
diversity
in.
X
X
Appoint
one
member
to
the
community
development
board
as
the
alternate
member
to
fill
the
remainder
of
an
unexpired
term
through
april
30,
2022
council
members
on
your
in
your
agenda
pack,
miss
van
scoyek
had
has
resigned.
She
has
moved
out
of
the
city
limits
and
you
have
applications
for
chelsea
allison,
leslie,
coley,
brenda,
dallas,
griffith,
david
j,
peter
kohut
and
nils
kusta.
D
I
I
like
I
mean
my
as
I
looked
at
these.
You
know,
and
I
think
you
know
we've.
You
know
we
always
say
you
know
with
our
citizens
academy
and
the
cis
academy
is
a
great
feeding,
ground
and
breeding
ground
for
the
you
know
for
all
of
our
advisory
boards
and
I'm
happy
to
see
a
lot
of
these
people.
D
As
you
know,
graduates
of
the
citizens
academy,
but
in
this
case,
given
what
this
board
does
and
everything,
I
the
one
that
I
like
is
mr
kushner
because
he's
in
the
construction
business
and
that's
an
area
of
expertise
on
the
community
development
board
that
we
do
not
have
right
now.
P
C
X
A
point
three
members
of
the
municipal
code
enforcement
for
return:
six
fire
october,
31st
2023
a
point,
one
member-
to
fill
the
remainder
of
an
unexpired
term
through
october
31st
2021,
and
appoint
one
member
to
fill
the
remainder
of
an
unexpired
term
through
october
31st,
2022.,
council
members.
We
had
quite
a
few
changes
on
the
board.
Mr
carruthers
and
miss
johnson
did
not
express
a
interest
in
being
reappointed.
Sheila
cole
is
can
be,
can
be
reappointed,
she's
feeling
currently
in
an
expired
term.
X
D
Given
his
background
in
the
various
as
an
engineer
in
the
various
municipalities
and
whatnot,
I
thought
you
know
and
he's
very
he's
been
active.
D
D
C
D
C
Fine
any
questions
about
second
readings
to
include
the
emergency
proclamation.
C
Save
done
city
manager,
verbal
reports
bear.
K
The
only
thing
that
I
would
mention
is
I'm
starting
to
get.
I
got
some
questions
today
about
from
a
president,
ceo
of
an
agency
telling
me
that
his
employee
is
a
little
concerned
about
election
related
violence,
discord.
You
know
that
sort
of
thing
and
was
wondering
what
they,
what
the
cities
were
doing
to
address
it,
and
you
know,
law
enforcement
is
well
aware
of
that.
Concern
and
polling
locations
are,
are,
I
think,
certainly
being
monitored
appropriately
and
and
we're
not
receiving
any
intelligence.
K
That
would
indicate
that
there
is
any
any
concern
about
violence
related
to
the
election.
So
in
case
you
all
get
those
kinds
of
questions
you
know
we
dan
assures
me
and
as
well
as
a
sheriff
that
that
that
concern
is
being
addressed.
C
K
Mayor
yesterday
we
had
we
had
on
u.s
19
cypress
shopping
center.
We
had
northbound
biden
caravan
and
then
we
had
a
southbound
caravan
across
19
of
trump
a
biden
person
got
into
the
trump
caravan
and
started
to
slow
down
and
and
create
some
some
issues
surrounded
by
the
trump
caravan
and
eventually
it
got
diffused.
But
those
are
the
kinds
of
incidents
that
have
occurred
over
the
weekend
and
I
think
that
adds
to
the
concern
that
people
have.
C
Okay,
council
discussion
items,
city
manager,
city
attorney,
salary,
discussion,
spoiler.
Y
You
have
been
provided,
updated,
salary
information
in
terms
of
what
our
comparables
look
like
and
on
all
occasions,
both
if
you
include
the
counties,
the
surrounding
counties
and
if
you
take
them
out
the
salaries,
the
actual
salaries
for
both
the
city,
manager
and
city
attorney
lag
behind
our
comparables
also
provided
to
you
all
was
a
historical
perspective
in
terms
of
what
types
of
increases
have
been
provided
to
both
the
city
manager
and
city
attorney
for
reference.
Last
year
they
were
provided
a
three
and
a
half
percent
increase
this
year.
Y
There
is
a
budgeted
amount
for
a
three
and
a
half
percent
increase.
Anything
additional
would
require
a
budget
amendment
and
additionally,
we
did
look
at
some
similar
size
by
population
and
by
fte
count
for
comparables
as
well,
and
those
also
showed
that
both
the
current
incumbent
salaries
lagged
behind
that
of
their
comparables
I'm
available.
If
there's
any
questions.
H
Yeah,
I
noticed-
I
don't
see
it
on
this
one.
Maybe
this
was
updated,
but
the
paperwork
we
got
before
with
the
comparables,
for
instance,
when
you
were
showing
us
charts
of
you,
know,
county
or
cities,
and
then
the
data
minus
the
county
jurisdictions.
G
J
Y
Again
so
I
do
have
a
presentation.
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
So
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
professional
recruitment
time
frame
first,
because
this
is
separate
from
the
actual
recruitment
for
the
city
manager
process,
so
to
select
a
recruitment
firm,
we're
anticipating
an
approximate
three
months
and
the
reason
why
we're
anticipating.
That
is
because
you
have
to
post
the
rfp
that
typically
takes
about
30
days.
That's
what
our
process
is
here
as
we
post
those
for
30
days.
You
then
have
to
provide
for
a
review
time
frame
so
that
the
committee
can
review
all
the
proposals
and
including
invite
any
of
the
professionals
back.
Y
Should
they
want
to
have
an
in-person
presentation
done,
then
we
would
bring
the
recommendation
to
the
council
to
award
the
contract
and
then
the
work
would
begin
within
30
days
of
that,
so
we're
anticipating
a
three-month
process.
For
that
the
average
cost
is
anywhere
between
30
and
75
000.
We
did
a
quick
search
to
see
what
that's
been
going
for,
and
it's
in
that
range.
It
really
depends
on
what
services
that
the
council
wants
the
executive
recruitment
firm
to
handle.
Y
If
we
did
it
in-house,
whereas
we
would
absolutely
save
on
the
the
rfp,
and
you
wouldn't
have
that
initial
three-month
time
span,
we
do
think
it
would
still
end
up
taking
just
as
much
time
because
the
hr
department
is
not
only
dedicated
to
conducting
that
search.
So
I
don't
think
you
would
have
any
time
savings.
There
would
just
be
the
financial
savings
and
with
that,
because
of
what
you
can
get
from
an
executive
search
firm
and
how
long
it's
been
since
that's
been
done
with
the
city,
we
would
still
absolutely
recruit.
Y
We
recommend
that
the
hybrid
approach
isn't
going
to
have
any
time
savings
either
and
again.
You
would
just
really
need
to
make
sure
you
had
a
clear
definition
as
to
who
was
going
to
be
doing
what
and
then
make
sure
that
we
had
a
contract
that
would
state
that
now
talking
about
the
actual
recruitment
process,
so
the
rfp
process.
We
talked
about
that's
about
three
months.
This
was
anticipated
to
be
an
additional
three
to
six
months
and
the
reason
why
is
it
would
need
to
be
advertised
in
that
icma
booklet.
They
actually
recommend
90
days.
Y
Some
other
considerations
that
the
council
should
be
considering
when
looking
at
this,
for
example,
where
do
you
want
to
search
for
a
candidate?
Do
you
want
that
to
be
locally
or
statewide,
or
a
nationwide
search,
icma
and
staff?
Absolutely
would
recommend
that
you
would
do
a
nationwide
search
for
this
position,
perhaps
having
some
parameters
that
you
would
want
them
to
have
coastal
experience,
but
florida
experience
might
not
necessarily
be
something
that's
required.
Y
Something
else
the
council
will
need
to
consider
is
how
do
you
want
to
review
the
applications?
So
does
the
council
want
to
look
at
every
application
that
we
receive,
or
do
you
want
that
to
be
vetted?
Do
you
want
to
only
look
at
the
top
five
or
the
top
20?
So
that's
something
that
would
need
to
be
considered,
additionally,
is
the
type
of
interview
process.
Y
So
you
have
a
lot
of
options
with
this
I
mean
you
can
do
one
or
all
or
a
combination
thereof.
So
do
you
want
to
have
a
public
interview
where
you
would
have
the
candidate
come
here
and
do
it
in
this
forum?
Would
you
rather
do
it
individually?
Would
you
rather
do
it
both,
and
then
you
also
have
the
community
engagement
piece
as
well?
Is
that
something
else
that
you'd
want
to
consider
for
this
position.
Y
A
big
one
that
really
needs
to
be
well
defined
is
the
salary
range,
so,
as
posted,
we
do
have
an
updated
salary
range.
This
was
just
recently
updated
with
the
pspc
study,
but
both
staff
and
icma
don't
recommend
you
advertising
a
range.
You
advertise
an
anticipated
starting
salary.
Now
that
can
be
a
narrow
range
depending
on
qualifications,
but
you
wouldn't
want
to
list
the
whole
range
unless
you
anticipate
or
are
willing
to
pay
that
entire
range.
Y
So
that's
something
that's
going
to
need
to
be
well
defined
in
terms
of
what
are
you
willing
to
pay
for
a
city
manager
and
then,
lastly,
in
terms
of
a
transition,
so
that's
something
else
that
would
need
to
be
decided.
What
kind
of
a
transition
do
you
want?
Do
you
want
the
current
city
manager
to
provide
a
transition
and
also
how
long
is
of
a
transition?
Y
So,
in
summary,
you're
looking
at
six
to
nine
months
from
start
to
finish,
especially
if
you're
doing
the
the
rfp
process,
what
we
would
recommend
those
fees
are
going
to
be
determined
in
terms
of
how
it
is
that
you
pick
who's
going
to
do
what
and
what
all
you
want
to
encompass,
especially
on
the
interview
process.
In
the
background
and
then
the
actual
selection
of
the
candidate
is
going
to
take
three
to
six
months.
Y
C
C
I
don't
want
somebody
that
jumps
around,
but
they
are
going
to
have
the
advantage
of
already
knowing
some
city
managers
around
the
country,
and
I
think
we've
got
a
great
hr
department.
I
don't
think
they're
really
equipped
to
do
a
national
search,
and
you
know
I
had
just
gone
through
this
process
and
you
two
heard
that
on
the
campaign
trail,
but
we
used
a
national
firm,
they
did
have
some
ideas
of
different
people
that
they
thought
that
they
reached
out
to
and
said.
We
think
this
is
a
good
fit
for
you.
They
at
least
applied.
C
We
narrowed
it
down
from
76
to
13
that
we
went
through
all
their
resumes
and
did
phone
interviews
and
then
from
there
did
six
personal
interviews
with
everybody.
Personally,
I
think
that
you
know
we
ought
to
have
meetings
with
the
community,
so
people
can
get
to
know
them,
but
I
also
would
like
to
have
one-on-one
interviews
where
you
can
get
to
know
the
person
better
and
what
their
philosophy
is
on
things,
their
past
experience
and
whatnot.
C
D
Well,
I
I
definitely
thank
you
and
kudos
to
to
mr
horn
for
being
here
20
years,
but
after
being
here
for
being
here
for
20
years,
there's
no
doubt
we
need
to
do
a
national
search
in
my
eyes.
No
doubt
the
process
that
jennifer
has
laid
out,
I
think,
is
great
and
mr
horn.
When
the
time
comes,
you
know
you
know
we're
we're
looking
at
a
three
to
six
month
and
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
look
at
more
as
a
six
month
process.
D
You
know
when
the
time
comes
from
the
city
manager
rather
than
you
know,
because
to
have
a
smooth
now
as
far
as
transition
after
the
process
everybody's
different,
you
know,
the
new
city
manager
might
be
more
interested
and
just
come
in
and
say
look.
This
is
my
this
is
this
is
my
job
now
I'm
good
I'll
learn
on
the
job.
D
One
for
that
number,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
the
the
person
you
want.
Excuse
me
for
saving
the
guy.
It
just
won't,
so
you
know
we
need
to
be
willing.
We
need
to
understand
that
and
be
be
prepared
for
it.
We've
gotten
a
great
bang
for
our
buck
from
mr
horn
and
the
sega
and
miss
aiken.
Well,
we're
not
talking
about
her
right
now
so,
but.
D
And
you
know
well
we're
gonna
have
to
do
it.
We're
gonna
have
to
do
a
search
for
miss
aiken's
replacement
at
some
point
too
and
along
those
lines,
I'm
not
sure
we
need
to
do
a
national
search.
For
that.
I
think
a
more
regional
approach
is
is
better
for
that
position
because
it
needs
to
be
someone
who
is
florida
bar
certified.
D
Hopefully
somebody
from
this
area
I
mean
pam-
came
to
us
from
the
city
of
tampa
when
when
she
was
hired,
so
I
think
you
know
we're.
Probably
okay,
that's
the
approach
I
would
prefer
to
see
in
that
situation,
but
for
mr
horn,
I
think
you
know
this
is
with
what
clearwater
is
going
through,
where
we're
headed
and
what
we
everything
we
got
going.
H
Yeah
and
I
100
agree-
I
I
went
through
this
one
of
the
organizations
about
10
years
ago
that
I
was
affiliated
with
and
we
went
nationally
did
take
about
nine
months.
I
mean
to
get
it
all
done.
We
had
some
for
a
city
manager.
I
mean
this
is
kind
of
what,
when
I
knew
mr
horn
wanted
to
retire
around
the
20-year
mark.
H
This
is
one
of
the
things
that,
on
my
campaign,
that
I
wanted
to
be
here
to
be
involved
in
is
very
important
for
the
city,
so
I
think
we
go
for
the
best
we
can
get,
and
I
agree
with
mr
hamilton
said
that
you
know
we're
going
to
be
probably
hiring
somebody
that's
going
to
be
paid
more
than
what
bill
gets
paid
now,
we're
glad
that
he's
been
with
us
for
20
years
and
normally
city
managers.
Last
what
five
four
five.
B
I
actually
agree
with
the
the
entire
routine
that
you
suggested.
We
definitely
need
a
nationwide
search
by
a
professional
firm,
and
you
know
I
I
really
enjoyed
the
one-on-ones
we
had
to
talking
to
the
parks
and
recs
candidates.
F
F
C
D
Council
member
hamilton,
as
the
only
one
who
was
here
20
years
ago
when
we
hired
mr
horn,
we
did
a
national
search
and
bill
was
already
on
staff.
He
was,
he
was
an
assistant
city
manager
here,
but
to
his
credit
he
was
the
right
choice.
He
he
outshined
all
of
the
the
finalists
that
we
interviewed,
and
you
know
I
you
know.
D
G
C
Being
compared
to
other
people
in
some
ways
they
have
an
advantage
and
in
some
ways
it's
a
disadvantage.
Mr
horn,
do
you
want
to
add
anything
to
the
conversation?
No,
all
right,
so
would
you
all
be
willing
to
just
at
least
find
the
firm
that
we
think
we
will
use
when
the
time
actually
comes
rather
than
waiting,
mistaken.
E
Y
And
to
add
on
to
that
yeah,
I
agree
with
that
and
most
of
our
contracts
when
we're
going
out
for
our
pr
for
a
defined
time
frame.
So
they
would
say
that
you
know
this
proposal
is
good
for
x
amount
of
time
as
well.
C
Y
E
D
G
C
C
D
X
No,
but
when
his
appointment
came
up,
it
was
council's
request
at
that
meeting
to
have
a
discussion
to
provide
some
guidance
to
mr
strater.
C
I
mean
I
sent
him
an
email
that
all
of
you
saw,
and
it
all
I
said,
was
his
job
is
a
balancing
act.
We
want
to
protect
our
citizens,
quality
of
life
that
are
in
the
flight
path
for
pi
and,
at
the
same
time,
understanding
that
allegiant,
which
is
pretty
much
the
only
tenant
down.
There,
makes
an
enormous
difference
for
tourism
in
pinellas
county
they're,
one
of
the
great
feeder
airlines,
and
also
they
do
complete
packages.
D
And
I
think
I
think
shawn
is,
I
think
sean
is
highly.
You
know
he's
a
very
intelligent
young
man.
I
think
he's
highly
capable
of
weighing
the
evidence
participating
in
the
dis
discussion
and
representing
the
probably
the
majority
of
the
of
our
community's
position.
I
mean
I
think
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
take
a
rocket
scientist
to
figure
out
that
the
majority
of
clearwater
people
don't
want
a
plane
flying
right
over
their
house,
so
I
would
think
you
know
he
he
should
be
able
to
do
it.
D
If
he
has
any
questions
he
can
say
you
know
what-
and
this
happens
at
many
many
things
where
a
representative
on
that
committee
or
on
that
board
will
say,
I'm
not
ready
to
vote
on
this,
because
I
don't
I'm
not
sure
based
on
who
I'm
representing
I'm
not
sure,
I'm
well,
I'm
ready
to
cast
a
vote
because
I'm
not
confident
that
that
vote
is
exactly
where
it
would
be.
D
So
I
need
to
go
back
to
my
people
and
have
a
discussion
so
that
I
can
come
back
at
the
next
meeting
and
we
can
vote
on
this
at
the
next
meeting
and
in
that
case
then
sean
can
bring
us
the
issue.
We
can
have
the
discussion
and
give
him
his
direction
to
go
at
the
next
meeting
where,
where
he,
where
he
should
be.