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A
A
Today
we
have
dr
jackson
from
saint
pete
college
who's
going
to
be
here,
helping
us
facilitate.
A
I
did
hand
out
something
that
I
had
generated
back
when
mr
horn
and
mrs
aiken
were
here.
I
just
I
thought
it
was
a
framework
of
questions
that
would
help
us
on
a
path
for
strategic,
strategic
planning.
A
I'm
hopeful
that
we
will
get
something
done
this
morning.
I
will
tell
you:
I
am
not
happy
with
this
process.
A
And
if
we
don't
go
the
right
direction,
I
am
willing
to
scrap
what
we've
done
and
start
over,
but
I
I'm
really
dissatisfied
with
what
we've
done
to
date.
I
I
just
think
it's
been
a
very
long
time
frame
that
we've
been
looking
at
and
hopefully
some
of
the
things
I
gave
you
on
this
list,
which
I
produced
a
couple.
Nine.
A
I
think
it
synthesizes
down
some
of
the
things
we
at
least
need
to
talk
about
not
only
from
priorities
but
from
philosophy.
So
any
other
comments
before
I
turn
it
over
to
dr
jackson.
Vice
mayor.
Thank.
C
C
You
know,
can
we
do
this?
Can
we
do
that?
Should
we
be
looking
at
this?
What
is
the
priority
of
that?
And
the
response
has
generally
been
we're
going
to
cover
that
with
a
strategic
plan,
we'll
answer
that
with
a
strategic
plan,
planning
right
and
developing
our
updated
strategic
plan,
and
we
don't
have
it
and
it's
been
two
years
of,
I
feel
like
I've
been
given
a
stiff
arm
or
others
have.
You
know
as
and
we're
not
doing
that,
and
so
then
my
understanding
today
is
while
it
says
a
discussion
of
strategic
plan
today.
C
My
understanding
is
that
we're
giving
direction
on
simply
this
year's
budget
priorities
and
not
our
overarching
strategic
plan
and
philosophy,
because
we
have
pressing
needs
to
develop
a
budget
and
get
that
approved,
and
so
once
again-
and
someone
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
the
focus
of
this
meeting
is
not
developing
our
philosophical
strategic
plan,
the
one
pager,
because
I
have
our
current
strategic
plan-
you
know
it's
the
one
I
pass
out
different
times,
but
it's
not
this.
It's
more
guidance
about
our
budget
priorities
at
this
moment
and
not
including
arpa
funds
at
this
moment.
C
So,
if
I'm
mistaken
about
our
purpose
today,
but
I
think
in
a
perfect
world
we
would
have
an
updated
strategic
plan
right
now
that
we
use
as
a
guide
for
the
next
six
to
ten
years,
and
then
we
have
annual
meetings
where
we
talk
about
what
is
our
focus
with
that
strategic
plan
each
year,
as,
as
you
know,
it
lives
out
its
life
of
six
to
ten
years
or
whatever,
but
when,
when
we're
having
our
discussion
today,
I'm
wondering
what
is
our
guide
guiding
document?
C
A
A
So
I
think
it
needs
to
be
updated
more
frequently
than.
B
D
D
E
Good
morning
looks
like
we
have
some
work
to
do
today,
so
before
I
begin,
I
just
want
to
address
some
of
the
things
you
said.
I
have
the
pleasure
of
speaking
to
you
all
individually,
but
it's
nice
to
see
faces
in
the
room
and
really
try
to
connect,
so
I'm
going
to
do
a
brief
introduction
for
the
public,
since
this
is
recording.
E
This
is
a
formal
setting
and
then
I'm
going
to
try
to
break
down
what
I
heard
individually
and
collectively
and
try
to
synthesize
what
you
all
want,
even
though
we
have
very
different
perspectives
and
that's
fair
to
say
so.
First,
my
name
is
kimberly
jackson
for
the
purposes
of
today.
Please
call
me
kimberly.
I
am
an
attorney
by
trade
in
the
educational
context,
because
I
have
a
dead-end
degree.
They
call
me
doctor,
but,
as
an
attorney
is
always
very
uncomfortable,
just
call
me
kimberly
is
fine.
E
E
So
I
hear
and
receive
what
you
all
said
about
the
process
and
the
frustration,
and
I
want
to
say
that
I'm
a
fresh
eye.
Let's
put
it
that
way.
You
all
only
recently
contacted
me
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
We
are
not
getting
reimbursed
for
this.
This
is
a
service
that
we
want
to
do
as
the
institute
the
college.
E
As
you
all
know
way,
more
than
me,
congressman
bill
young
left
to
think
tank
at
st
petersburg
college
to
do
social,
political
and
economic
nonpartisan
discussion
to
create
bridges
to
have
true
facilitation
about
the
appropriate
scope
of
government.
I
take
that
role
very
seriously
and
anything
that
we
can
do
at
the
college
to
try
to
support
that.
I'm
willing
to
do
so.
I'm
going
to
sort
of
change
what
I
did
in
light
of
your
icebreaker,
and
I
will
I'm
going
to
try
to
start
with
your
icebreaker,
since
this
is
what
you
had
don't.
E
It's
actually
a
good
one.
I
might
take
it
for
future
things,
so
I've
not
lived
in
clearwater,
I've
already
shared.
Where
I'm
from
a
little
bit
about
my
family.
I
have
two
daughters.
I
mentioned
one.
I
have
an
older
daughter
who
is
pursuing
making
a
decision
this
week
about
her
phd
program
for
english
and
theater.
E
She
currently
lives
in
atlanta
and
I'm
proud
to
say
she
got
to
berkeley,
washu,
emory
and
northwestern
and
she's
a
proud
product
of
canterbury
and
st
pete
ivy
do
I
have
pets
and
yes,
I
have
a
sheep,
a
noodle,
formerly
I
had
a
great,
dane
and
formerly
a
child
mixed
with
nikita.
I
can
see
I'm
an
avid
dog
lover,
two
hobbies.
I
read
a
lot
and
I'm
a
dancer
ballerina
by
trade
and
still
enjoy
doing
that
with
academy
valley
of
arts.
Where
do
I
like
to
vacation
any
place?
E
That's
cold,
no
offense
to
all
the
floridians,
it's
very
hot
here
most
of
the
year
and
what
was
the
first
concert
you
ever
went
to
and
where,
as
a
kid,
I
got
the
privilege
to
go,
see
the
jackson
five.
It
was
a
really
big
deal.
I
was
like
11
years
old
and
it
was
a
transformational
moment
for
me
as
a
child
in
chicago
okay,
so
I've
done
the
icebreaker
before
we
get
back
into
business
and
I'm
going
to
ask
you
all
to
do
the
same.
E
E
Collaboration
is
never
easy
and
it
takes
some
time,
and
so
today
you
may
not
get
anything
done
and
I
want
to
be
very
clear:
I'm
not
magical
right.
This
requires
good
faith
effort
discussion
and
if
you
all
move
the
needle
two
notches,
then
I
think
that's
enough
right.
Of
course,
at
some
point
you
have
to
set
a
deadline
for
when
you're
going
to
make
true
significant
progress.
E
Everyone
cannot
have
the
same
process
everyone's
not
going
to
be
happy
at
the
end
of
a
really
good
mediation.
Something
has
to
be
let
go,
and
I
think
I've
talked
to
you
all
individually
about
that.
So
in
terms
of
discussion,
I
agree.
If
you
had
a
strategic
plan.
Strategic
plans
are
living
and
breathing
documents,
they
are
fluid
and
they
are
most
important
to
inform
your
budget.
E
E
E
B
F
Thank
you
so
I'm
originally
from
montreal
canada.
I
was
born
to
portuguese
immigrants.
I
moved
here
about
25
years
ago
to
clear
water.
F
F
Photographic
direction
coming
up
with
a
concept,
and
I
think
that
really
is
one
of
my
passions.
Where
do
I
vacation
in
the
past,
because
I
have
family
everywhere,
I
always
tended
to
go
there,
but
now
that
I'm
an
empty
nester,
I
want
to
explore
other
places.
So
so
far,
I'm
really
focusing
on
europe.
I
enjoy
it
a
lot
and
my
first
concert
was
run
dmc
in
downtown
montreal.
E
G
Well,
my
name
is
mark
bucker
and
I
have
been
here
full
time
since
2013..
I
spent
a
couple
of
years
here
back
in
2000
2001
and
I
missed
it.
I
was
in
san
diego
for
10
years
working
in
tv
news
and
when
the.
G
Big
meltdown
of
the
economy
happened
in
2008..
I
managed
to
survive
a
couple
more
years
there
at
the
station,
but
eventually
we
were
all
let
go
and
I
thought
well
now.
I
want
to
come
back
here
because
this
has
been
the
most
fascinating
point
of
my
life
and
I
want
to
see
if
I
can
make
a
difference,
I
don't
have
any
kids.
Unfortunately,
I
have
a
brother
who
lives
in
costa
rica
and
I
had
planned
to
go
and
see
him
and
his
wife
around
this
time.
G
But
then
there
are
some
medical
issues
on
my
part
and
his
wife's
part
that
get
me
away
from
that.
So
sometime
later
this
year,
we're
gonna
go
trooping
around
costa
rica,
which
would
be
fun
the
favorite
place
I
I've
been
to.
As
is
london,
I
would
love
to
go
back
there.
G
Creating
websites
and
and
videos
for
the
web
and
surfing
than
that
and
I
think
I've
covered
every
oh,
my
first
concert.
Okay,
this
is
a
good
one,
because
I
I
it's
an
answer
to
a
security
question
on
some
site
and
I
I
never
get
the
right
answer.
The
first
concert
that
I
actually
went
to
I
was
working
backstage
and
that
was
alice
cooper
when
he
came
through
wisconsin
and
I
was
in
college.
G
And
I
I
got
to
work
backstage
on
a
few
events.
Back
then,
including
who
is
there
was
a
blackstone
junior.
The
magician
came
through
with
his
troop,
and
I
got
to
see
the
way
a
lot
of
the
tricks
were
done
and
it
was
eye-opening
how
simple
these
these
illusions
are
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
C
So
I'm
kathleen
beckman,
my
husband
and
I
bought
our
town
home
in
clearwater
in
2012
and
rented
it
out
for
four
years,
and
then
we
moved
here
in
2016
after
we,
both
retired
from
northern
illinois,
and
we
have
three
children,
they're
adults,
they're
grown.
We
have
a
daughter
and
our
son
and
daughter-in-law
who
live
in
chicago
josh
and
mary
beth,
our
daughter,
sarah
lives
in
charlotte
north
carolina
and
our
youngest
son,
michael
and
his
wife
megan,
live
in
washington
dc.
C
We
had
pets
when
the
kids
were
younger.
We
had
lab
mixes
that
we
adopted
and
love
them
very
much,
but
we
don't
have
pets
right
now.
We're
big
dog
people,
my
hobbies,
I
I
love
to
cook
and
I
love
to
be
outside
hiking
biking
just
being
outside
I
like
to
vacation.
I
think
one
of
our
favorite
vacations
was
zion
and
bryce
and
the
national
parks
out
west
and
again
just
a
lot
of
hiking
and
time
without
crowds
and
lines,
and
things
like
that-
and
I
was
thinking
about
the
first
concert.
C
You
know-
I
don't
what
I
do
remember
thinking
about.
The
first
concert
is,
we
took
like
a
family
camping
trip.
We
used
to
rent
a
pop-up
camper
that
you
towed
on
a
car.
You
know
we
had
oldsmobile
sedans
because
we
lived
in
lansing
and
we
drove
to
toronto,
and
I
I
think
his
name
is
arthur
fiedler,
the
famous
conductor,
and
he
was
out
there
doing
a
practice.
C
H
H
I've
got
a
brother
and
two
sisters
and
I
have
three
children:
three
grandchildren
and
one
great-grandchild
and
another
one
on
the
way
in
in
june.
I
think.
H
I've
had
pets
all
my
life,
mostly
dogs.
I
went
through
one
period
where
I
had
a
cat
and
I
like
dogs
better,
but
now
you
know
we
don't
have.
H
We
had
two
little
dogs
that
lived
to
18
and
they
passed
away
a
couple
years
ago.
We
decided
not
to
get
another
one,
because
we
thought
we'd
travel
more
and
but
I
do
have
a
big
saltwater
aquarium.
I
got
three
fish
in
there,
so
where
do
I
like?
The
vacation?
H
I
love
america
anywhere
in
america.
I've
been
to
hawaii,
I
love
colorado.
Like
you,
I,
like
cool
places,
to
go
to
the
mountains.
North
carolina
seems
to
be
the
closest
cool
place
to
go,
and
you
know
I
get
there
in
a
day
and
it's
a
good
family
gathering
spot
out
of
the
country.
I
think
my
favorite
place
is
scotland.
H
My
hobbies
I'm
a
musician.
I
love
music,
I've
always
loved
music
and
I
love
any
water
sports.
I'm
a
boater,
I'm
a
swimmer,
I'm
an
offshore
swimmer,
I'm
a
distance
swimmer.
My
my
we
all
our
whole
family
rate
was
raised
swimming
my
brother
who's
taller
is
a
very
fast
swimmer,
he's
a
1500
yard
record
holder
on
the
distance.
So
it's
funny
to
see
the
piano
following
us
back
in
about
a
half
mile
and
I'm
still
going,
but
always
enjoyed
that
and
it'd
be
hard
for
me
to
get
away
from
water.
H
Because
of
that
my
first
concert.
So
the
music
thing
goes
back
to
when
I
was
in
my
teens
and
in
the
60s
were
very
music
changed
in
the
60s.
We
had
rock
music
come
in,
you
know
with
the
beatles
and
everything,
but
we,
the
city,
had
a
thing
called
star
spectacular
here
and
I'm
bringing
that
up,
because
it's
amazing,
I
think
back
in
the
60s
clearwater
was
a
small
community
about
28
000
people.
H
But
we
had
every
major
group
that
was
famous
in
america
and
even
the
stone
rolling
stones
came
to
claire
warner
1965..
My
first
concert
was
I'm
trying
to
think
back
what
it
was.
He
was
either
the
beach
boys
or
otis
redding,
and
it
was
right
down
here
in
a
little
clearwater
auditorium
back
at
city
hall
monthly.
We
would
have
somebody
come
in
from
you
know
that
was
famous,
and
it
was
just
amazing
because
you
know
clearwater
being
so
small,
a
lot
of
the
local
talent.
H
A
A
I
currently
have
two
golden
retrievers,
so
I
play
golf
and
read
a
lot
several
books,
three
or
four
books
a
month.
Where
do
we
like
to
vacation,
carmel,
california,
especially
in
july
august
or
september,
to
get
away
from
the
heat
here?
And
it's
always
cool
up
there,
and
my
first
concert
was
a
cheap
trick
at
ravinia,
which
is
a
great
music
venue
in
the
northern
suburbs
of
chicago,
and
I
hope
the
coachmen
will
be
very
much
like
that,
because
I
have
some
fond
memories
of
running
around
the
park.
E
So
I
have
more
comment
and
more
in
common
with
the
last
couple
of
comments
I
honeymooned
in
carmel,
and
my
husband
just
took
me
to
our
25th
anniversary
to
zion.
We
had
to
hop
up
in
the
middle
of
the
summer,
which
is
not
the
greatest
but
he's
an
avid
outdoors
person,
which
is
why
we're
always
outside
he's
a
triathlete
and
he's
at
clearwater.
E
He
rides
as
one
of
the
crazy
bicyclists
sorry
to
say
that
I'm
talking
about
my
husband,
not
everyone
collectively,
who
rides
75
miles
from
our
house
and
snell
all
the
way
down
to
clearwater
all
the
way
across
the
bay
to
tampa
to
bayshore
and
all
the
way
back.
So
when
you
see
that
group
look
for
a
greyhound
air.
E
That's
my
husband
is
part
of
the
weekly
group
that
goes
through
your
beautiful
city.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
sharing,
because
I
think
it's
important
for
people
to
have
perspectives
about
what's
important
to
you
and
thank
you
so
much
for
creating
that
icebreaker
on
the
icebreaker.
It's
a
wonderful
icebreaker.
I
had
some
of
my
own,
but
I
think
that
one
was
a
really
perfect
place
to
start.
E
E
H
I
would
say:
that's
number
one,
you
know
if
we
had
weather
like
we
have
today
every
day
of
the
year
it
would
be
three
times
the
population
we
have
now,
but
that's
why
we
have
that
control
valve
in
the
summer
september's
and
august.
So
a
lot
of
people
say
I
can't
come
it's
too
hot,
but
I
like
the
heat,
so
I
like
the
weather
here
in
clearwater.
H
H
B
H
Lot
of
great
things,
it's
a
great
place
to
live
work
and
play.
I
mean
that
that
pretty
much
describes
clear
water.
G
F
When
we
moved
down
here,
my
husband
and
I
right
after
we
got
married,
it
was
supposed
to
be
temporary.
We're
supposed
to
just
do
travel
nursing,
but
we
loved
it
here.
So
much
and
there's
so
many
things
to
say
you
know
what
we
love
about,
but
it's
basically
how
I
feel
so
as
much
as
I
love
to
travel
the
best
way
to
describe
it
is
when
I
land
in
the
airport-
and
I
go
down
courtney
causeway-
that
feeling
of
coming
home.
A
A
Suburban
neighborhood
urban
neighborhood,
obviously
the
beach
communities
there's
something
for
everybody.
I
don't
think
you
can
narrow
it
down
to
one.
We
have
incredible
quality
of
life,
our
parks
and
rec
libraries.
I
would
put
up
against
anybody
not
only
in
the
state
but
the
country,
especially
per
capita
and,
most
importantly,
we're
safe.
E
So
what
I
heard,
which
is
something
I'm
very
happy
about,
is
total
alignment.
You
all
said
the
literally
almost
the
exact
same
thing,
people,
warmth,
location
and
this
feeling
of
community
and
depth,
and
I
can
say
honestly
having
traveled
in
a
lot
of
circles,
people
love
clearwater.
I
try
to
say
that
there
are
a
lot
of
cities
in
florida
you
can
come
to,
but
they
always
say
clearwater,
so
you
all
have
a
special
place.
E
You
definitely
have
a
special
place
now
that
we've
shared
a
little
bit
about
who
we
are
and
what
we
care
about
the
city.
I
would
like
you
to
delicately
walk
about
some
concerns
before
we
get
to
priorities
and
again
be
sir
I'd
like
you
to
control,
which
way
we
flow.
Unless
you
want
to
create
an
order
of
going
back
and
forth.
F
In
terms
of
concerns,
I
guess
I'm
going
to
focus
on
what.
B
F
Heard
during
my
campaigning,
which
is
I
had.
F
You
so
so
I
just
want
to
really
focus
on
what
I
heard,
rather
than
specifically,
what
I
think
is
the
concern.
The
first
concern
is
that
that
there's,
a
culture
of
between
the
neighbor,
the
citizens
in
the
city
of
you,
know
the
processes
being
difficult
and
laborious
so
kind
of
really
improve
any
process
where
processes
where
there's
a
direct
impact
with
the
citizens,
whether
it
be
permitting
or
codes
or
zoning
or
any
any
service
that
we
provide
directly
to
the
citizens,
is
something
that's
been
expressed
to
me.
F
A
lot,
there's
a
disconnect
as
well.
So
I
like
to
also
reiterate
what
mayor
hibbert
said
about
us
going
being
more
engaged,
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
expressed
that
there's
a
disconnect
between
neighborhoods
and
not
feeling
that
they're
getting
all
the
information.
F
So
that
would
be
a
second
one
and
then
my
third
priority,
which
is
which
is
diversifying
our
economy
and
making
sure
that
we're
healthier
and
have
more
industries
here
and
provide
more
higher
paying
jobs,
because
right
now
we're
so
centered
on
service
industry
and
hospitality,
so
actually
bring
more
baskets
and
diversifying
where
we
put
those
eggs
so
that
we
can
provide
our
citizens
more
opportunity.
G
Well,
besides
my
basic
concern
of
scientology's
impact
on
the
downtown,
I
am
concerned
that
we
don't
seem
to
be
doing
a
good
job
of
engaging
the
different
communities
and
listening
to
their
needs,
and
I'm
certainly
happy
that
john
jennings,
when
he
came
in
immediately
started
saying:
okay,
let's
fix
the
sidewalks
that
have
been
in
disrepair
for
so
long.
I
think
we
need
to
do
much
more
of
that.
Just
help
people
in
the
communities
every
way
we
can
and
give
them
a
greater
advance
notice
when
changes
are
about
to
be
made.
C
I
would
so
three
priorities,
I
would
say
we
need
resources
and
staffing
to
get
the
work
done
in
our
city.
We
need
to
set
measurable
goals
in
our
priority
areas
and
allocate
resources
to
reach
those
goals,
and
we
need
to
address
our
housing
challenges
and
understand.
What
are
the
levers
that
we
can
utilize
as
a
city
to
address
that
crisis.
H
Councilmember
albert
okay,
well,
I
kind
of
agree
processes
in
our
city
need
to
be
looked
at,
but
part
of
the
part
of
the
part
of
that
is.
We
are
definitely
top
heavy
on.
We
don't
have
enough
indians
and
too
many
chiefs.
Maybe
so
that's
that's
hampering
the
process
of
trying
to
change
that,
but
you
know
everybody's
having
that
that
issue
we
just
need
to.
H
The
second
thing
would
be
downtown
rejuvenation
and
that
kind
of
ties
into
my
third
one
other
areas
of
clearwater
besides
downtown
and
the
beach
want
us
to
keep
keep
them
in
our
thoughts
and
not
just
you
know,
every
you
talk
to
people
in
countryside
and
say
all
you
think
about
is
downtown
on
the
beach.
Well,
the
beach
is
pretty
much
a
done
deal
downtown.
We
struggled
for
50
years
getting
that
rejuvenated.
H
A
Hey
kimberly,
we
just
had
neighborhoods
day,
which
we
had
30
neighborhoods
have
block
parties
and
I'm
just
going
to
throw
an
editorial
comment
out
there.
Before
I
give
you
my
three
I
having
traveled
to
16
of
the
30.,
I
think
this
narrative
that
everybody
is
displeased
is
somewhat
bogus.
A
A
And,
and
take
this
all
in
the
spirit
it's
meant
nobody
up
here
has
lived
through
bad
economic
times,
while
on
this
diocese-
and
I
am
concerned
that
we
will
have
another
downturn.
Kova
did
not
turn
out
to
really
hurt
us
economically
within
the
city,
and
I
just
think
we
always
need
to
be
prepared
for
that
next
recession
or
next
crisis.
That
comes,
you
know,
and
I
go
back
to
911
and
what
happened
with
tourism:
the
fact
that
we're
too
dependent
911
the
great
recession,
the
deep
horizon
oil
spill
red
tide.
A
A
G
A
E
I'm
going
to
ask
for
one
more
round
of
questions
and
a
quick
break
to
utilize
your
staff
to
see
if
we
can
get
some
type
of
working
document
that
we
all
can
write
on
if
that's
possible.
Since
I
see
that
you
all
are
writing
I'm
writing
as
well
sort
of
mixed
myself
up
going
back
and
forth,
so
I
had
to
rescribble.
E
E
People
well,
he
would
say
that
about
me,
so
thank
you,
of
course,
for
sharing
what
you
love
and
what
your
concerns
are
and
that's
going
to
lead
into
priorities
next,
but
not
now
after
we
come
back.
E
E
E
So,
instead
of
asking
you
the
question,
I
was
about
to
ask
you
about
that.
If
you
had
to
prioritize
from
a
budgetary
thought
process,
not
asking
to
confine
you,
if
you
had
to
prioritize
what
would
be
your
priority
and
I'm
going
to
ask
you
just
to
list
one
because
we're
trying
to
come
up
with
priorities-
and
there
are
five
of
you.
So
if
we're
going
to
create
a
strong
at
least
start
for
strategic
priorities,
it
would
be
helpful
to
synthesize
that
information.
H
That's
a
hard
one.
I
have
so
many
things
spinning
in
my
head,
but
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
is
of
concern
now,
just
because
of
the
market
is
affordable
housing.
H
We
need
to
think
about
how
we
can
plan
the
future
to
level
the
playing
field
for
developers
to
be
able
to
offer
more
affordable
housing
instead
of
market
rate
housing,
because
we're
I
mean
most
of
our
economy
is
based
on
the
service
industry.
We
have
a
lot
of
people
working
in
the
service
industry
in
clearwater
and
we're
changing
that
as
well.
But
I
I'd
say:
more
than
half:
don't
even
live
in
clearwater
because
they
can't
afford
it.
H
You
know
that's
kind
of
a
talk
about
where
we're
going
in
the
community
and
and
that's
a
community
discussion,
because,
even
though,
because
a
lot
of
people
are
concerned
about
it,
you
know
that
a
lot
of
people
say
well.
I
really
don't
want
my
neighborhood,
but
you
know
we
need
to
have
it,
so
we
need
to
be
figuring
that
out,
where
we're
going
to
do
it
and
what
kind
of
incentives
we
can
bring
forward.
G
Did
you
ask
for
the
number
one
thing
that
is
currently
in
the
strategic
plans
network.
G
But
one
of
the
reasons
I
moved
back
here
was
it
was
far
less
expensive
to
live
here
than
in
san
diego,
and
you
know
it's
still
probably
cheaper
than
san
diego,
but
but
I'm
I'm
stunned
that
how
much
rent
has
risen
for
folks
here
and
that's
one
key
thing
that
I
would
like
us
to
address.
F
E
E
Listening
to
your
neighbors,
your
peers,
your
community
leaders,
people
that
you
value
businesses,
people
that
you
travel
with
you
know
nationally
or
globally,
and
so
there
are
a
lot
of
priorities
you
care
about
and
what
you
care
about
personally
may
not
be
something
that
feeds
into
what
is
important
for
the
community
as
a
whole.
But
I
do
think
when
there
have
been
challenges
in
the
past.
E
That
less
is
more
because
less
is
more
starts
a
stronger
conversation
about
how
do
we
address
the
most
pressing
issues
and
then,
hopefully,
by
addressing
those
pressing
issues,
you
will
get
to
the
root
of
some
of
the
other
issues
and
you
will
likely
find
that
they
cross
over
in
many
different
areas.
So
so
thank
you
for
your
patience
with
that.
A
Well,
I
have
a
hierarchy
that
I
believe
local
government
ought
to
have
and
there
are
certain
things
that
I
think
should
be
priorities
within
local
government.
I
believe
in
us
staying
in
our
lanes
between
federal
state,
county
and
local-
and
I
told
you
that
on
the
phone
dr
jackson
or
kimberly,
but
public
safety
would
be
my
number
one.
I
think
it
is
the
foundation
on
which
we
build
our
city
and
then
your
priorities
stem
from
that.
E
Would
like
to
tell
you
why
I
didn't
want
to
interrupt
the
flow
of
the
conversation.
If
there's
anything,
you
also
want
to
add
just
any
one
of
your
staff.
I'd
like
the
staff
to
help
me
put
these
five
priorities
and
sort
of
try
to
gel
my
notes,
really
quick
on
one
working
document
give
each
of
you
all
the
working
documents.
So
in
the
next
hour
we
can
start
talking
about
ideas
to
implement
this.
So
what
now
that
we've
created
priorities?
A
I
I
just
think,
there's
I
don't
I'm
fine
with
where
you're
trying
to
go.
I
still
don't
think
we've
built
in
a
large
enough
component
yet
of
feedback
from
citizens,
and
I
don't.
A
So
if
we
can
narrow
our
focus,
there's
also
some
questions
that
I'd
really
like
us
to
discuss
that
do,
go
back
to
philosophy
and
we
have
not
had
that
conversation
and
we
do
have
a
new
member
with
council
members
shaida.
But
you
know
there
are
some
questions
at
some
point
that
I
would
like
to
discuss.
I
don't
know
if
today
is
the
day,
but
there
are
things
that
I
put
in
my
document
that
we
need
to
resolve
because
it's
going
to
impact
where
we
do
put
resources
and
we
just
haven't-
had
the
conversation.
E
So
I
would
say
that
first
of
all,
I
wholeheartedly
agree
with
you
and
not
just
for
purposes
of
agreeing
with
you
as
former
staff
as
former
city
attorney
and
all
of
your
staff,
who
have
to
implement
everything.
You
all
say
it
is
really
important
to
get
the
neighborhood
feedback,
because
no
one
wants
to
start
and
do
all
of
that
work
and
then
hear
from
the
community
bless
you
that
that
is
not
what
we
wanted
at
all,
and
so
you
mentioned
30
neighborhoods,
and
I
would
submit
that
at
some
point.
E
You
all
need
to
collectively
and
individually
here,
so
that
there
is
not
this
time
that
directly
impacts
resources,
energy
support
fatigue
from
the
people
who
are
implementing
what
you
are
asking
them
to
do.
So
I
wholeheartedly
agree
with
that
and
to
the
resolving
issues,
although
I
don't
know
them
directly.
E
I
would
say
now
is
the
time
the
more
that
is
pushed
off
the
harder
it
will
be
to
achieve
your
goal,
and
so
if
this
is
a
space
where
you
all
have
dedicated
three
hours
of
time
to
listen
to
each
other,
to
talk
and
to
address
the
issues.
Even
if
you
don't
get
anywhere,
it
leads
us
out
there
for
you
all
to
discuss
and,
as
I
said
in
the
beginning,
I'm
not
magical,
I'm
a
facilitator.
E
F
Maybe
it's
because
I'm
the
newest
member
here
I
can't
help
but
feel
like
I'm,
we've
skipped
steps
and
I
just
kind
of
want
to
be
like
regrouping,
because
I
agree
that
before
we
even
start
forming
a
strategic
plan
and
perhaps
maybe
because
I'm
new
I
just
feel
like,
we
need
to
have
deeper
conversation
about
what
we
really
you
know
our
philosophy
and
all
that,
but
it
might
be
because
I'm
you
and
I
feel
like
I'm
thrown
in,
but
I
just
feel
like
thinking
about
the
document.
I
think
it's
too
soon.
F
I
would
like
a
greater
understanding
about
where
everyone
else
is
on
various
subjects,
but
that's
my
personal
feeling
and
it
might
be.
H
I'm
hearing
here
we're
not
too
far
at
least
where
we've
gone
off
from
each
other.
I
mean
as
everybody's
talking.
You
know,
especially
the
last
question,
I'm
like
yeah.
That
could
be
my
number
one
thing
you
know,
so
I
don't
think
we're
we're
far
off
yet,
but
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
things
to
talk
about
and
bring
into
that.
So
I
like
the
way,
we're
we're
starting
to
build
on
this,
and
maybe
a
question
would
be-
and
I
know
you
asked
me
this
over
the
phone.
A
E
Priorities
right
and
so
again,
but
what
what
both
of
you
are
saying
and
really
what
all
of
you
are
saying,
is
really
the
same
thing.
Working
documents
take
time
to
perfect
and
perfect
and
perfect
and
perfect.
So
what
you're
doing
here
today
is
just
collaborating
again.
There's
it's
just
highly
unlikely
to
create
a
specific
document
that
all
of
you
all
will
agree
to
in
three
hours,
even
in
my
best
mediations
that
did
not
occur.
I
may
have
settled
it
two
or
three
months
later,
but
I
at
least
started
the
conversation
right.
E
A
Yes,
so
we'll
reconvene
at
let's
make
it
three
minutes
after
ten.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
A
A
A
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A
A
A
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E
So,
first,
thank
you
all
for
your
patience,
it's
hard
to
collate
that
information
quickly
and
I'd
like
to
thank
I'm
sorry,
your
name,
nicole,
nicole,
for
doing
an
outstanding
job.
I
speak
very
quickly.
She
dictated
very
quickly,
so
we're
not
going
to
make
any
comments
on
how
quickly
she
did.
If
there's
any
issues,
she
did
an
outstanding
job
saying
that
for
the
record.
E
Yes,
so
the
reason
why
I
like
to
have
the
documents
together,
which
you
all
will
get
a
paper
document
shortly,
is
so
that
you
all
can
hear
and
visually
see
and
process
and
everyone's
a
different
type
of
learner
of
what
you
said.
E
So
I
know
that
I
didn't
get
everything
completely
accurate,
but
you
all
have
the
record
for
that.
I
tried
to
summarize
that's
impossible
what
you
said
so
when
you
actually
get
the
paper,
what
I'm
hoping
we
can
do
next
is
start
layering
what
you
thought
so,
while
we're
waiting
for
that,
can
you
all
scroll?
While
I
talk
okay,
so
of
course
you
indicated
your
priorities
was
efficiency,
streamlining
the
processes
having
well
staff.
E
You
said
your
concerns
was
pro
process
with
the
city
communication,
diversifying
the
economy,
and
you
love
the
fact
that
you
always
feel
welcome
here.
You
feel
like
you're
coming
home
here
and
then
you
said,
sir,
that
your
priority
was
affordable,
housing
and
that
your
concerns
were
engaging
different
communities
and
providing
help
on
basic
municipal
services
and
greater
advanced
notice.
And
similarly,
you
said
you
love
the
people,
it's
a
casual
place
and
it's
fun
and
we're
correcting
as
we
go
so
again.
E
A
E
E
In
libraries,
we're
just
going
to
say
the
best
put
best
in
bold
and
I
think
we'll
come
and
scroll
down
to
the
next
one
and
again
your
working
documents
and
she's.
Changing
this
in
real
time
might
be
slightly
different.
Vice
mayor,
you
said
appropriate
funding
for
staffing
and
your
concerns
were
resources
for
staffing
allocation
of
resources.
I
believe
you
said
housing
and
having
measurable
goals.
I
was
writing
my
own
writing
so
really
fast.
I
hope
I
got
that
again.
You
all
said
people,
location
and
environment,
although
you
said
it
in
different
ways.
E
You
literally
said
the
same
thing,
which
is
really
wonderful
to
hear
and
then
finally,
you
said:
affordable
housing,
your
concerns
were
downtown
rejuvenation
and
jobs
and
the
service
industry,
which
is
why
you
care
about
that
and
that
you
love
the
the
fact
that
the
people
here
the
weather
and
conservative
values.
So
again,
this
is
just
a
brief
summary
of
what
you
all
took
the
first
hour
to
talk
about,
which
I
think
is
important
for
you
to
see
that
you
align
on
a
lot
of
issues
and
from
a
strategic
plan
space.
E
You
essentially
said
resources,
safety
and
housing,
and
I
think
most
cities
would
say
the
exact
same
thing.
So
I
wanted
to
you
to
hear
that
you
are
aligned
how
you
get
to
that
alignment.
What
your
thought
processes
are
on
implementation
is
where
the
work
has
to
be
done,
which
is
why
you
have
those
four
bullets.
E
So
when
you
get
to
the
document
that
you
have,
I
would
like
you
to
start
writing
down
as
we're
talking
your
thought
process
on.
How
do
we
get
there?
So
you
mentioned
before
we
left
about
a
question.
I
asked
you
all
individually
and
just
so
they
know
I
called
you
all
individually,
just
to
ask
and
start
the
conversation
soft
conversations.
E
The
conversations
were,
what
are
your
priorities?
The
next
conversation
was,
what
can
you
live
without
essentially
like?
What
are
you
willing
to
walk
away
from
the
table
from
and
the
last
one
was
how
motivated
you
were
to
come
to
some
sort
of
agreement?
And
you
know
I.
I
appreciate
you
all
taking
the
time
to
listen
to
me
and
to
think
about
it
reflectively
over
the
weekend
and
to
get
to
the
space
so
that
we
can
at
least
have
some
conversation.
E
So
now
we're
going
to
get
to
some
of
the
more
difficult
statements
of
what
can't.
What
do
you
think
are
the
the
challenging
spaces
and
it
speaks
to
you
what
you
said
mayor
about
some
things
that
you
all
have
not
discussed
that
you
wanted
to
address
that.
You
felt
like
needed
to
be
addressed,
and
so
I'd
like
to
start
with
first,
and
we
can
do
the
same
way.
What
do
you
think
that
we,
that
you
cannot
that
you
would
have
a
challenge
with
if
it
was
not
a
dress,
and
everyone
has
one
right.
E
E
E
Are
you
willing
to
come
from?
What
are
you
not?
What
are
you
not
willing
to
compromise
on
like,
for
example,
I
am
never
willing
to
compromise
on
my
anniversary,
my
husband
knows
that
this
is
this
is
a
condition
of
this
long-term
relationship
that
we
get
to
go
to
fabulous
plate,
no
matter
what
he
says
you
you
find
another
person
for
your
patients
and
off
we
go
so
you
know
what
are
you
not
willing
to?
Let
go.
F
E
C
H
Well
my
original
priority.
I
was
kind
of
thinking
more
lined
to
what
is
important
today,
but
I've
always
had
safety
is
my
number
one
priority
and
if
you
were
to
ask
me,
I'm
pretty
open,
I
have
definite
way
of
thinking,
but
if
somebody
can
convince
me,
I'm
always
open
to
listen.
If
they
can
convince
me
that
there's
something
better
and
the
way
I'm
thinking
I'm
open
for
that,
but
I'm
really
not
going
to
really
safety,
would
be
the
one.
A
I
think
we
always
have
to
have
a
long-term
perspective,
so
putting
the
city
in
jeopardy
fiscally
by
making
decisions
that
you
know
today
seem
like
the
right
decision,
but
in
the
long
term
we
can't
sustain
the
decision.
E
E
If
you
can
add
it
in
real
time,
it'll
make
our
life
easier
at
the
break.
Yes,
okay!
So
then,
with
that
being
said
before
we
go
any
further
because
I
would
like
to
try
to
navigate,
even
though
I'm
walking
into
a
blind
space
of
what
you
would
like
to
that.
You
mentioned
something
that
needed
to
be
resolved,
and
I
said
we
might
want
to
consider
it
at
this
space.
A
Well,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
need
to
resolve,
but
that
could
take
the
rest
of
the
day,
but
some
of
them
that
I
think
are
important
they're.
All
on
my
outline,
you
know,
one
of
them
is
what
is
the
role
of
city
government
versus
county
state
and
federal?
I
think
that's
been
a
discussion
that
we've
danced
around
a
little
bit
and
I
think
it
would
help
if
we
had
some
consensus
on.
A
Okay,
well-
and
I
think
probably-
and
you
know
I'm
not
trying
to-
but
if
there's
this
is
the
only
place
that
we
get
to
discuss
things,
obviously
for
all
the
citizens
who
are
watching
at
home
all
three
of
you.
A
E
Well,
I'm
going
to
do
something
that
I
normally
don't
do,
which
is
step
into
territory
blindly,
but
that's
fine.
That
is
why
you
all
asked
me
to
come
today,
and
I
think
that
I
appreciate
again
that
you
all
were
very
candid
with
me
collectively
and
individually,
and
that
was
the
only
thing
I
asked.
Is
that
good
faith
and
candor?
Otherwise,
you
can't
have
a
conversation
that
moves
any
needle
without
that
and
everyone
can
agree
to
disagree
from
an
ideological
perspective.
E
I
think
that's
important
for
each
of
us
to
understand.
None
of
us
are
cut
from
the
same
cloth.
We
all
have
very
different
life
experiences.
We
all
have
very
different,
unique
situations
that
make
us
who
we
are.
Sometimes
we
have
shifts
in
our
lives
that
change
our
priorities
and
so
that
all
of
that
makes
up
who
you
all
are
as
leaders
as
family
people
as
people
in
the
community
as
business
leaders
and
so
that's
important
to
be
be
respectful
of,
but
at
the
same
time
hear
each
other.
So
I'm
okay,
going
with
that.
E
I
think
the
question
specifically,
but
you
all
have
it
in
front
of
you:
do
they
all
have
a
copy
of
this?
They
do.
Okay
would
be
question
number
two.
What
is
the
role
of
city
government
versus
county
state
and
federal,
and
I
think,
if
it's
okay
to
distill
it
to
what
is
your
philosophy?
Would
that
be?
Would
that
suffice?
E
Okay?
So
if
you,
if
you
want
to
start
with
of
who,
you
would
like
to
start
with.
H
You
know,
I
think
financial
stability
is
is
important
and
I
told
you
enhancing
mobility
and
transit
is
important,
especially
in
our
community.
That's
very
dense
and.
H
But
I
don't
think
that
I
think
there's
plenty
of
help
in
this
with
state
and
county
for
social
needs.
I
know
the
city
does
spend
over
a
million.
The
police
has
some
in
their
budget
to
help
with
that,
but
I
don't
think
it's
our
job
to
have
social
programs
to
help
I
mean
using
our
taxpayer
money
to
help
things
like
homeless,
and
I
mean
there's
other
programs
that
are
kind
of
out
of
our
realm
so
help
with
the
county
starts
with
counting
and
goes
up
only
to
federal
government.
E
Okay,
so
what
I
hear
is
that
from
the
philosophy,
philosophical
space,
of
course,
you're
prioritizing
and
understand
the
need
of
the
community,
but
in
terms
of
how
it
is
funded
or
supported,
may
not
necessarily
be
the
role
of
the
city,
but
rather
a
triad
with
the
county
and
state
and
other
services.
Would
that
be
accurate?
Yes,
okay.
Thank
you.
C
I
would
say
the
philosophy
of
the
role
of
city
government
is
certainly
we're
here
to
keep
our
residents
safe.
So
I
think
safety
is
first
when
I
articulated.
I
think
we
need
to
be
fully.
We
need
to
fund
staffing
to
get
the
work
done.
That
goes
for
everything
from
you
know.
Our
economic
development
department,
fire
police
city
manager
department,
all
that
stuff.
It's
we
have
openings
in
nearly
every
department.
C
So
in
order
to
get
the
work
done,
that's
what
I
meant
by
funding,
but
certainly
we
need
to
feel
safe
in
our
community,
so
public
safety.
We
need
to
have
delivery
of
services.
It's
just
important
that
I
have
a
police
officer.
If
I
need
one
that
when
I
turn
on
my
water,
it
works
or
when
I
flush
my
toilet,
it
goes
out
and
it's
not
polluting.
C
So
all
those
things
are
are
valuable,
so
safety
delivery
of
services
and
then
we
need
to
vote,
and
then
I
would
say
our
responsibility
as
a
city
government
is
to
ensure
that
our
residents
have
housing
options.
They
have
a
place
to
live.
They
want
to,
if
they're
working
here,
they
need
to
have
a
place
to
live
in
our
area
in
our
region.
C
We
talk
about
alignment,
and
you
mentioned
you
and
I
being
not,
you
know
in
lockstep,
I'm
incredibly
frugal
and
you
know
my
family.
The
way
I
was
brought
up
the
way
my
husband
and
I
operate
in
our
family.
Is
you
know
we?
C
We
don't
over
set
or
overspend
or
overextend
ourselves,
and
it
is
about
being
very
fiscally
prudent
and-
and
I
would
you
know
when
I
ask
questions
related
to
items
on
the
budget-
it's
with
that
frugality
in
mind
and
accountability
and
being
transparent,
and
so
you
know
that's
important
to
me,
but
the
way
I've
operated.
The
way
I
I
tend
to
approach
this
job
is
a
triple
bottom
line
in
that
we
look
at
what
is
the
economic
impact?
C
C
Workforce
housing
is
that
the
county
can't
do
it
all
the
state
can't
do
it
all
we
need
to
all
partner.
We
cannot
just
say
that
someone
else's
responsibility,
I
pay
county
taxes,
they
can
deal
with
it.
They
don't
have
enough
funding
we're
we're
in
a
crisis.
I
reviewed
that
you
know
some
of
the
data
at
thursday's
meeting
and
we
have
a
responsibility
to
our
residents,
who
call
clearwater
home
and
are
sleeping
in
their
car
they're
working
here.
C
C
E
E
So
I
would
just
ask,
even
if
you're
hearing
things
that
you
really
disagree
with
on
all
levels
that
you
still
continue
to
be
open
to
alignment
because,
ultimately
again
the
goal
is
a
budget
at
some
point
not
today
the
goal
is
the
strategic
plan.
The
goal
is
okay,
as
a
group
you
all
collectively
are
going
to
the
neighborhoods
to
say
this
is
where
we
agree,
and
this
is
where
we
think
that
we
should
prioritize
our
funding
based
on
our
agreement.
E
Now
we
want
to
hear
from
you
so
at
some
point,
even
though
you
may
have
strong
philosophical
differences,
you
know
again,
we
want
to
focus
on
energy
on
what
we
can
agree
with
to
get
to
a
solid
structure,
and
you
know
continue
long
term
to
work
on
things
that
you
disagree
with
and
how
to
get
to
that
space.
So
that
being
said,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
interrupt.
G
So
the
role
of
city
government-
well,
you
know
we,
we
have
to
take
care
of
all
the
basics.
Of
course
you
know
fire
and
police
filling
potholes
picking
up
trash.
We've
got
an
army
of
people
on
staff,
very
talented
people
who
work
wonders
every
single
day,
accomplishing
all
the
things
that
we
take
for
granted.
G
During
covid,
when
we
took
a
tip
from
a
newspaper
article
about
another
small
town
who
was
giving
away
food
vouchers
to
local
restaurants,
we
we
started
doing
that
to
great
success.
Is
it
our
job
to
give
people
food
vouchers?
No,
but
it
was
very
effective-
and
I
think
at
a
time
like
this,
when
it
comes
to
housing,
we
need
to
look
at
new
ways
to
partner
with
people
to
accomplish
something.
G
G
We,
we
can
pump
up
our
efforts
with
habitat
for
humanity,
but
we
also
might
want
to
find
a
a
partner
that
can
create
if
we
donate
some
land
a
a
a
little
tiny
home
community.
That
will
help
a
lot
of
people.
F
I
think
the
role
of
the
city,
like
many
of
us
have
set
up
here.
It
is
to
take
care
of
our
day-to-day
needs
of
our
citizens,
whether
it
be
safety-
and
you
know
the
infrastructure,
and
all
that
I
do
want
to
see
a
more
extensive
planning
for
the
future,
so
that
we
can
implement
some
strategies
and
plans
to
ensure
success
and
prosperity.
F
I'm
thinking
more
along
the
lines
of
you
know
actively
courting
businesses
and
employers
of
diverse
backgrounds
along
that
line.
F
F
F
But
which
services
are
we
all
willing
to
agree
on,
and
how
are
we
going
to
budget
for
it?
That's
the
conversation.
I
think
that
we
need
to
have
because
the
city
can't
just
randomly
pay
for
all
the
social
services
that
are
that
that
are
needed.
So
partnerships,
I
think,
is
also
very
imperative
and
there's
a
lot
of
great
organizations
out
there
that
are
doing
good
work
and
I
and
we
need
to
work
with
them.
F
A
A
About
24
goes
to
the
county.
Porsche
goes
to
psta
our
bus
service,
some
goes
to
swift
mud
jwb
and
that's
pretty
much.
What
makes
up
your
tax
bill,
and
so
the
reason
I
want
to
have
this
conversation
is
again
to
understand
our
lanes
when
you
and
I
talked
on
the
phone
the
other
day,
I
said
we're
not
going
to
start
working
on
our
defense
mechanisms.
A
National
defense
is
the
purview
of
our
federal
government,
and
so
you
know,
staying
in
our
lanes
is
important.
Personally,
I
donate
money
to
charities
that
I
knew
know
do
a
great
job
of
providing
social
services
in
clearwater
that
would
be
hep
and
salvation
army
and
others
I
mean
for
me.
It
still
comes
back
to
public
safety,
followed
by
infrastructure,
because
nobody
cares
about
the
sexiness
of
what's
under
the
ground
until
it
doesn't
work
quality
of
life.
A
I
reckon
our
economics
and
I
just
think
we
need
a
more
robust
conversation.
I
don't
necessarily
think
this
is
the
place
to
have
it
doctor.
I
think
at
some
point
we
need
to
have
another
work
session
amongst
ourselves
kind
of
figure
out
where
the
priorities
are,
because
if
we
decide
to
go
and
do
something
else
and
we've
had
this
conversation
going
back
to
when
mr
horn
was
our
city
manager,
he
did
not
want
to
increase
it,
but
we
need
to
figure
out-
and
I'm
not
saying
it's
wrong
to
do
so.
A
A
A
Is
it
our
libraries,
but
it's
going
to
be
something
unless
we
take
it
out
of
reserves,
which
is
you
cannot
use
reserves
for
ongoing
expenses?
That
is
a
cardinal
rule
of
budgeting.
You
don't
use
reserves
for
ongoing
expenses.
Our
budget
director
isn't
here,
but
I
can
tell
you
if
she
were.
She
would
tell
you
you
could
use
it
for
one-time
expenses,
but
not
ongoing.
So
that's
my
philosophy,
pretty
easy
to
understand.
E
Sir,
I
am,
I
think
it
was
important
to
have
the
conversation
so
at
least
now
everyone
has
said
how
they
feel
on
the
record
on
this
particular
issue
and
again
I
know
I
see
the
posture
stiffening
up
and
everyone,
but
you
all
had
to
say
it
right.
So
you
had
to
say
it
now
it's
off
and
now
you
all
hear
it
all
in
one
space
not
in
you
know
different
spaces,
you
know,
but
you
could
have
knew
what
each
other
was
going
to
say.
Anyway,
you
all
have
campaigned
you're
all
together.
E
E
E
So
I
would
like
to
talk
about
the
elephant
in
the
room,
the
social
services
right,
because
I
I
think
what
you
said
specifically-
and
I
don't
I'm
sorry,
I'm
not
using
your
name.
I
don't
like
to
mispronounce
names.
E
But
you
said
which
services
do
we
agree
on
and
how
do
we
pay
for
them?
And
that
is
the
key
question
right
if
you're
going
to
do
it
all
so
I
mentioned
you
all
that
I
sit
on
seven
boards,
so
I
did
some
research
about
the
boards
over
here
and
use
our
example
in
saint
pete.
First,
I
sit
on
the
ymca
board.
E
I
sit
on
academy
prep
and
one
of
the
bigger
ones
I
sit
on
is
st
pete
free
clinic
the
st
pete
free
clinic,
there's
a
ton
of
resources
and
without
going
to
a
psa
for
them,
because
I've
done
that
around
the
county
many
times
they're
the
type
of
partner
that
you
can
align
with.
So
I
said
well
who
does
that
in
clearwater
and
again
you
know
this
is
my
quick
research.
I
don't
know
if
there
are
other
entities,
but
I
called
my
colleague
over
there
to
say
who
do?
E
Who
does
the
exact
same
thing
over
here,
and
why
is
that
important?
Because
during
covet
you
mentioned
giving
vouchers?
We
called
our
congressional
leaders
and
we
said,
come
down
here,
state
leaders
and
come
look
at
the
saint
pete
free
clinic
and
see
what's
happening
in
your
city
and
why
you
have
to
give
more
money
to
the
saint
pete,
free
clinic
and
other
resources
like
that,
because
the
lines
are
increasing.
E
So
therefore,
it's
not
hitting
the
municipality
it's
going
directly
to
the
services
that
know
what
they're
doing
to
give
the
services
properly
and
efficiently
and
before
we
knew
it.
We
had
now
mayor
ken
welch,
charlie
chris
jeff.
You
know
brandeis
daryl
roussan
the
likes
of
all
the
congressional
leaders
on
all
walks
of
life
through
the
ideology
coming
to
see,
what's
happening
and
who's
doing
the
best
serving
so
we
can
allocate
resources.
A
E
So
those
are
three,
I'm
sure
that
they
got
there,
because
I
wasn't
writing
that
down.
Have
you
heard
of
the
homeless
empowerment
program?
Okay,
of
course,
we
mentioned
habitat
for
humanity's
directions
for
living
gulf
coast,
coastal
jewish
service.
E
It's
been
out
of
my
lane
for
a
while,
because
again
I
work
for
the
college
now
not
for
the
city,
but
the
city
has
a
program
that
I
believe
was
at
least
not
started,
but
led
by
kanika,
tamil
or
former
deputy
mayor,
healthy,
saint
pete.
I'm
sure
I
might
have
it,
and
so
the
funds
were
not
really.
E
You
know
directly
my
understanding.
The
funds
were
to
partner
with
parks
and
recs
and
as
a
result
partner
with
the
service
industries,
to
make
sure
that
there
was
a
promotion
of
again.
I
forgot,
which
one
of
you
all
said.
How
do
we
tell
the
community
about
resources
that
are
work
that
that
are
funded?
That
actually
can
help
deliver
services?
E
And
that
may
be
something
that
you
all
just
think
about.
You
know
a
campaign,
a
platform,
a
an
alliance,
if
you
will
partnering
with
the
organizations
that
do
it
best
that
have
the
data
drill
down
that
know
the
history
of
the
neighborhoods
that
know
where
there
are
systemic
generational
challenges
and
know
how
to
step.
E
If
you
had
to
implement
your
priority
the
priority
you
suggested,
how
would
you
implement
that
in
terms
of
what
type
of
budget,
how
much
of
the
budget
should
go
towards
your
priority,
since
you
are
intimately
familiar
with
the
budget
and
you're
intimately
familiar
with
what
you
care
about
now
that
you
have
to,
you
know,
sit
down
and
write
down.
Where
does
this
fall?
You
know
how
do
you
implement
this?
E
I
think
vice
mayor,
you
said
in
the
beginning
something
very
specific
that
you
wanted
resources
with
a
measurable
impact
so
that
the
staff
had
what
they
needed.
So
I'm
just
using
you
as
an
example,
I
hope
that's
okay,
then
you
would
say
what
type
of
resources
they
need
and
how
you're
going
to
measure
it
and
how?
How
much
are
you
going
to
do
to
fund
and
and
to
distribute
resources,
for,
I
believe,
the
190
jobs
that
you
said
need
support,
for
example.
E
So
I
just
asked
you
all
to
take
two
to
three
minutes
to
think
about
that
you're
going
to
have
to
say
it
out
loud
for
the
record,
but
I
like
to
give
people
writing
documents
so
that
they
can
sort
of
write
down
their
thoughts
and
if
you
all
can
do
that
and
let's
see
it's
10
42
my
time.
So,
let's
give
it
about
five
three
to
five
minutes.
E
When
you're
thinking
about
how
you're
trying
to
implement
your
your
priority,
you,
I
think
the
mayor
mentioned
that
the
old
strategic
plan
was
outdated,
but
I
do
think
that
all
of
you
all
said
is
important
about
vision
and
about
long-term
planning
and
I'll
use.
My
experience
by
example,
I
mentioned
I
lived
in
illinois
when
I
moved
here
in
97.
E
E
My
family,
my
father-in-law
lived
in
bardmore
at
the
time.
They
literally
thought.
I
lost
my
mind.
Why
do
you
want
to
go
downtown
to
st
p?
There
is
nothing
going
on
in
saint
pete
and
I
was
like
give
it
time
right
and
there
was
a
lot
of
iterations
of
that
time,
but
I
can
honestly
say
that
through
several
mayoral
terms,
now
they
did
the
long
strategy
and
they
got
it
right.
So
what
have
I
enjoyed?
E
20
years
ago,
when
I
was
a
little
bit
younger
to
do
some
things
that
are
now
available,
but
I'm
very
grateful
that
the
leaders
put
that
work
in
for
the
long-term
safety
for
the
long-term
vision
of
activities
and
balance
and
development,
and
there's
disagreement
about
that
still
too
and
for
the
long-term
future
of
what
that
looks
like
for
generations
and
that's
the
goal
and
how
you
all
get
there
is
hard
work.
But
that's
the
goal.
E
And
as
you're
doing
that,
I
think
under
your
number
three
mayor,
I
think
you
do
want
to
update
the
plan.
I
think
that's
fair,
to
say
after
listening
to
everyone
citizen
input,
I
think
collectively,
even
though
it's
specific
to
covet,
I
think
you
all
have
agreed
that
citizen
input
is
fair.
Well.
E
Something
that
you
all
might
think
about
is
what
other
have
you
seen
other
strategic
plans
that
you
want
to
emulate?
I
think
that's
a
great
question
to
your
number
three
and
your
final
product.
I
think,
ultimately
needs
to
address
that
big
question
of.
If
you
are
going
to
make
systemic
changes
on
any
level.
Where
does
the
money
come
from
everyone?
Every
household
in
america
has
to
have
that
conversation.
E
F
Okay,
so
my
priority
is
the
efficiency
and
streamlining
the
processes
that
affect
citizens
directly,
so
I
am
not
intimately
familiar
with
the
budget.
So
that's
going
to
be
a
challenge
for
me
to
get
myself
acclimated
to
that.
Having
said
that,
we
we
do
know
we.
I
have
heard
repeatedly.
I
have
experienced
myself
some
of
the
challenges
going
through
the
processes
as
a
citizen,
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
like
to
have
is
actually
more
of
a
formal
citizen
input
process
hear
from
them
what
the
challenges
are.
F
F
E
E
If
you
were
to
create
a
specific
bullet,
you
might
say
that
the
city
of
clearwater
will
either
explore
resources
in
the
city
or
hire
a
consultant
to
conduct
a
formal
citizen
survey
to
receive
input
from
the
30
neighborhoods
in
the
city,
along
with
conduct
a
staff
climate
survey
to
address
deficiencies
with
the
processes
of
how
to
access
resources.
E
So
when
you're
talking
about
how
you're
going
to
address
that,
that's
what
I'm
asking
you
all
to
do
is
really
start
putting
tenants
into
what
specifically
you're
going
to
do,
because
then
that
will
lend
to
the
budget
process.
How
much
do
we
have?
What
category
can
we
take
to
to
make
this
a
reality?.
G
G
E
E
When
you're
thinking
about
this,
so
that
you
all
can
come
to
an
alignment
space,
I
always
say
too
that
when
you're
structuring
possible
alternatives,
how
realistic
is
it
to
implement
short
term
and
long
term
so
again,
without
going
down
a
can
of
worms,
because
I
am
a
resident
and
a
happy
resident
of
st
petersburg
florida.
Let
me
say
that
again.
E
The
raise
is
an
example
of
different
ideology
and
challenges
and
ideas
about
where
funding
should
go.
So
when
you're
thinking
about
the
budget
and
where
to
move
things,
I
would
submit
that
it's
challenging
for
some
people
to
say
where
they're
willing
to
take
a
pocket
of
money
and
where
they're
willing
to
place
it.
C
Thank
you
thanks.
Okay,
so
I
had
priority
was
appropriate
funding
for
staffing
and
then
how
to
implement
this
priority.
So
I
have
one
question
that
I
need
to
understand.
So
if
we
have
over
190
open
positions,
does
our
reserve
account
that
we
have
right
now
that
is
very
healthy,
include
the
funds
that
would
be
used
to
pay
for
if
we
could
wave
a
magic
wand
and
fill
all
190
positions,
would
that
pull
from
our
reserve
fund?
Do
you
know
that
answer.
A
C
B
A
C
Agreed,
that's
part
of
it
yeah.
So
so
thank
you
for
asking
that
then
I
would
say
you
know
we
need
to
allocate
funds
to
make
us
more
competitive.
I
think
we
can
look
at
our
vesting
policies,
our
investing
of
pension,
maybe
lower
it.
How
do
we
make
ourselves
more
attractive,
maybe
lower
from
10
years
to
five
or
six
years,
explore
more
creative
ways
to
attract
employees,
including
flexible
schedules
working
remotely?
C
Maybe
we
have
you
know
child
care
incentives,
things
like
that.
I
you
know.
I
think
we
need
to
think
outside
the
box
to
be
competitive
in
our
region,
and
so
those
are
those
are
some
of
the
things
I
I
thought
of.
Okay,.
E
So,
since
we're
going
we're
drilling
down
some
of
these
issues,
of
course
again
longer
conversations,
I
like
the
fact
that
you
all
had
a
conversations,
and
maybe
we'll
pivot
in
the
next
hour,
to
asking
conversations
for
clarity
purposes.
E
But
from
a
budget
perspective
I
you
know
again,
all
businesses
are
dealing
with
trying
to
attract
the
appropriate
workforce
based
on
the
scope.
A
competency
study
might
need
to
be
done
to
see
what
is
appropriate,
but
the
truth
is,
of
course
the
people
are
re-prioritizing
where
they
want
to
work
and
play
and
how
they
want
to
work
and
play.
E
And
so
maybe
that
means
you
don't
fill
all
190,
and
maybe
that
means
you
right-size
some
of
the
salaries
and
you
restructure
some
of
the
departments
that
don't
necessarily
need
the
staffing
that
they
did
before
or
because
you're
experiencing
a
geographic
shift
and
changes
in
the
community
that
you
renamed
some
of
these
positions.
So
you
might
want
to
think
just
a
suggestion
about
when
you
put
your
tenants
into
that
which
one
of
these
positions
are
key
for
the
growth
of
the
city
and
what
type
of
salary
is
looking
at.
Your
peers
around.
E
The
country
and
going
back
to,
I
believe,
one
of
the
the
questions
and
the
mayor's
discussion
of
emulating.
We
don't
have
to
reinvent
the
will
for
some
of
these
programs.
You
all
can
look
around
for
best
practices
for
other
cities
who
may
have
you
know,
figured
out
a
scale
for
this.
E
So
but
I
would
say,
like
nailing
down,
the
language
is
important
for
you
guys
to
push
the
conversation
the
next
step.
So
it's
really
good
for
you
all
to
hear
and
again
you
have
a
wealth
of
experience.
So
when
you
hear
when
you
ask
questions
again,
even
if
you
disagree
at
least
you
have
a
historical
understanding
of
why
in
the
what-
and
I
think
that's
important
for
this
discussion
too
right.
So
thank
you.
Well,.
A
I
think
he
needs
to
determine
what
he
believes
is
a
right-sized
organization,
and
we
may
to
your
point.
We
may
have
to
make
decisions
as
to
whether
there's
things
that
we've
traditionally
done
internally
that
we
may
outsource,
because
we
can
accomplish
what
needs
to
be
done
by
contracting
with
somebody
may
not
be
full
time,
but
that
they
can
do
certain
tasks.
That
ordinarily,
would
be
internal.
So.
C
Well-
and
I
fully
agree-
and
I
I
throw
out
the
190,
because
that's
the
most
recent
figure
of
positions
that
are
open-
it
doesn't
mean
that
I
think
the
only
way
to
operate
is
to
fill
all
190.
You
know
slots,
but
but
it's
a
starting
point
to
look
at
and
there
certainly
are
priorities
of
jobs.
You
know
where
we
really
critically
need
people
now
versus
others
and
part-time,
and
you
know
that's
just
it
goes
from
engineers,
and
you
know,
energy
innovation
managers
all
the
way
down
to
part-time
lifeguards.
Things
like
that.
E
That's
important
it's
important
to
have
the
conversation
to
see.
You
know.
Where
is
it
that
we
need
help?
You
know
people
don't
a
lot
of
everyday
people,
don't
care
until
their
garbage
is
not
picked
up
right
and
then
people
care
a
lot
or
during
hurricanes
and
the
you
know.
Polls
are
not
up
quickly
or
you
know,
there's
there's
too
much
debris
in
my
neighborhood
or,
and
you
know,
in
cases
where
there's
damage
you
know,
there's
people,
then
they
they
care
right
quickly.
So
then
you
start
thinking
about
different
positions
from
a
different
lens.
H
A
H
H
Priority
no,
my
priority
was:
I
mentioned,
affordable
housing,
so
I'm
thinking
more
instead
of
like
drawing
more
out
of
the
general
fund.
To
help
this
I
mean
we've
got
a
lot
of
and
we
have
a
housing
department
here.
That
brings
in
federal
money
and
state
money,
and
I
mean
it's
it's
everybody
knows
we
have
a
crisis
here,
but
here's
the
things.
I
think
that
clearwater
can
do.
H
To
help
that,
without
a
big
draw
down
of
money,
I
mean
we
could
we
could
change
the
development
code
allowing
more
density.
So
we
can
look
at
places
where
we
can
maybe
have
smaller
lots
with
homes,
because
the
land
seems
to
be
well
now.
Construction
costs,
but
land
seems
to
be
the
big
cost
factor
in
affordable
housing.
If
we
can
get
more
houses
on
the
same
size,
parcel
of
land
that
would
be
more
affordable
and
also
we
have
a
lot
of
older
homes
in
our
community
that
have
garage
apartments.
H
You
know
we
can
look
at
changing
to
make
that
be
used
for
renters,
and
that
would
be.
That
would
be
helpful
even
for
family
members.
You
know
to
be
able
to
have
somebody
live
in
their
garage
apartment
and
then
changes
and
streamlining
permit
process
for
affordable
housing.
I
know
we've
talked
about
it.
We
could
do
that
and
that
would
help
all
that
incentivizes
in
a
way
that
not
monetarily,
but
it
makes
it
easier
and
that's
an
incentive
for
a
developer
that
wants
to
do
affordable
housing.
E
B
E
But
when
you
start
having
conversations
of
what
does
this
look
like
to
a
community,
you
have
to
have
community
input
and
hard
conversations
about
what
do
zoning
changes?
Look
like
what
do
they
do?
What
does
the
permit
process
do
when
you
start
changing
that
and
what
is
the
impact
to
all
communities?
A
A
The
old
saying
goes,
history
doesn't
repeat
itself,
but
it
rhymes,
and
I
want
to
hearken
back
to
05
through
07,
and
we
were
facing
a
lot
of
the
same
issues
that
we're
facing
today.
A
A
I
don't
know
if
that's
going
to
happen
this
go
around,
but
I
know
that
ultimately,
things
reach
an
equilibrium
and
you
know
we
will
probably
over
build
in
the
near
future.
There's
no
collusion
between
you
know,
rental
properties
that
are
being
built,
they're
being
built
at
a
incredible
pace
and
they're
being
built,
because
right
now
they
can
garner
the
rents
that
they
want.
But
my
concern
is
that
I
don't
know
if
we
will
move
the
needle.
A
I
I
would
take
exception
with
one
thing
that
councilmember
albritton
said:
I
don't
think
it's
just
the
property
cost
or
the
density.
It's
the
construction
prices,
it's
our
tax
structure
for
affordable
housing.
After
the
fact
it's
the
fact
that
you
have
to
really
do
mixed
levels
of
income,
because
the
higher
incomes
tend
to
subsidize
the
lower
incomes.
A
A
A
My
goal
is
oftentimes
government
business
families.
Individuals
can
be
reactive
to
an
immediate
problem
without
understanding
the
ramifications
over
the
long
term
and
that
a
lot
of
things
do
tend
to
resolve
themselves
with
time
and
what
I
don't
want
to
do
is
be
jumping
from
crisis
to
crisis,
believing
we
can
put
out
this
fire
and
put
out
that
fire
when
in
reality,
I
don't
know
that
we
can.
That
doesn't
mean
we're,
not
a
part
of
the
solution.
A
A
A
A
They
do
a
wonderful
job
of
breaking
that
homelessness
chain,
but
you
will
also
find
people
with
mental
health
issues
that
just
don't
want
any
limitations
on
what
they
do
and
they
have
chosen
a
lifestyle
and
it
isn't
going
to
change
it's
just
an
example:
I'm
not
talking
about
homelessness
per
se.
It's
just
one
of
the
issues
that
we
have
been
battling.
G
E
You
all
seem
to
be
aligned,
you
may
say
again
differently,
but
you
seem
to
be
aligned.
You
are
aligned
on
public
safety,
and
so
that
should
give
some
some
thought
process
to
how
the
budget
should
go
for
that,
and
you
are
aligned
that
the
city
needs
to
do
an
evaluation
of
how
we
can
get
strong
employees
and
a
workforce
and
how
to
make
sure
that
the
resources
are
provided
to
the
citizens
and
that
you
should
speak
to
the
community.
You
guys
are
aligned.
E
Coming
from
the
bubble
of
concerns,
so
going
back
to
this
document
that
I
think
you
all
have
in
front
of
you,
your
priorities
are
still
the
same.
Your
layers
of
it,
I
think,
are
really
great
strong
starting
points
for
discussions,
but
the
last
space
needs
a
little
bit
more
time
for
you
all
to
discuss
before
you
get
to
a
budget
discussion.
Any
thoughts
on
that.
A
A
E
E
And
that's
a
great
starting
point
once
you
all
get
to
this
point
where
you
have
the
starting
place,
I
don't
know
how
you
all
implement
if
you
invite
the
public's
who
come
to
you
or
if
you
go
to
neighborhood
associations
or
how
you
start
that
process.
But
I
do
think
that
is
a
process
that
should
start
sooner
than
later.
D
The
mayor
and
I
spoke
with
us
about
scheduling
community
meetings
a
few
months
ago.
I
spoke
with
staff
at
that
time
and
we
were
in
the
process
of
scheduling
those
community
meetings,
we're
looking
at
three
to
four
community
meetings
at
recreation,
centers
geographically
diverse
in
the
city.
So
hopefully
we'll
have
a
few
of
those
scheduled
before
the
end
of
the
month,
but.
A
Well,
I
think
we
need
to
think
about
how
we
strategically
want
to
do
it,
because
you
could
start
with
citizens
and
then
they
drive
our
priorities,
or
we
finish
this
process.
We
bring
back
what
we
believe
are
the
priorities
and
they
either
confirm
them
or
give
us
other
issues
that
they
think
we've
missed.
D
Know
but
well
I
did.
That
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
scheduled
this
session
was
in
order
for
the
council
to
do
its
preliminary
work
then
also,
but
I
imagine
that
priorities
could
change
after
listening
to
the
community,
so
it
is
a
multi-tiered
process.
You
know
we
did
the
data
gathering
and
you
had
mentioned
earlier.
D
A
C
I
just
have
a
backup
real,
quick
question
just
for
my
learning
and
understanding,
because
I
can
only
ask
you
up
here
so
when
you
were
talking
mayor
hibbard
about
oh
507,
we
were
facing
a
lot
of
the
same
issues.
People
were
leaving
the
public
sector
to
private
sector
pay,
not
so
much
benefits.
Affordable
housing
was
a
huge
issue
and
then
you
said:
affordable,
housing,
just
kind
of
took
care
of
itself.
C
A
Well,
you
had
an
unbelievable
number
of
foreclosures
rents
went
down
because
property
values
declined
by
40
and
that
meant
taxes
went
down.
A
There
was
a
lot
of
inventory
available,
but
up
until
that
point
we
had
a
lot
of
issues
with
affordability
and
also.
A
The
difference
between
what
individuals
were
paying
in
taxes
was
a
huge
thing
back
then.
So
there
were
people
that
had
moved
in
through
the
2003
to
2007
time
frame.
They
would
move
in
in
a
neighborhood
that
had
same
model
homes
and
one
taxpayer
would
be
paying
1500
in
taxes
and
the
other
was
paying
10..
A
A
It
was
a
real
issue
back
then,
for
a
lot
of
people
as
they
moved
in
who
was
paying
the
freight,
and
so
people
that
were
homesteaded
and
under
save
our
homes
wanted
more
and
more
services,
because
the
incremental
increase
in
their
cost
was
minimal,
whereas
the
people
who
had
just
moved
here
it
was
enormous,
but
a
lot
of
that.
Unfortunately,
through
you
know,
a
devastating
economy
did
resolve
itself.
A
I
am
not
saying
we
shouldn't
be
working,
you
know
on
affordable
housing
within
the
city.
We
have
three
different
properties
right
now
we're
working
on,
but
I
do
believe
what
will
eventually
happen
is
there
will
be
too
much
supply
that
will
be
put
online.
Ultimately,
prices
will
start
to
come
down.
It's
basic
economics.
A
C
C
And
if
that's,
what
keeps
our
you
know
as
a
big
part
of
our
economy,
it's
those
aren't
going
to
go
away
and
those
are
those
are
the
workers
that
we
need
to
have
workforce
housing
for
as
well,
because
if
we
and
I'm
all
for
job
training
and
higher
paying
jobs
here
in
different
industries
or
corporate
headquarters.
But
if
those
people
come
in
they're
going
to
be
taking
up
the
housing
stock
that
we
have
now
and
that
just
pushes
our
service
industry
workers
further
out.
C
A
E
Well,
this
also,
if
I
may,
maybe
why
you
all
need
a
discussion
just
on
this,
with
a
review
of
what
is
the
city
currently
doing
so
that
is
in
front
of
all
of
you.
All
you'll
have
had
time
to
review.
It
is
this
successful.
Is
it
not
successful
anymore,
what
partnerships
you're
working
on,
so
you
can
answer
which
I
think
was
the
most
important
question
after
you
decide
what
you
want
to
do.
E
What
are
you
willing
to
shift
to
pay
for
it
if,
at
all,
so
but
review
of
services
before
of
discussing
new
innovation
might
be
important,
because
you
might
have
to
sunset
some
programs
or
you
might
need
to
strengthen
some
programs
and
that
might
go
into
your
top
priority
of
what
type
of
staff
do
you
have
to
implement?
The
programs
is
the
department,
that's
leading
that
do
they
have
the
resources
available
to
do
was
asked
and
tested
them.
So
those
are
layered
conversations.
E
You
know
what
programs
that
you
have,
and
it
may
involve
you
talking
to
staff
themselves,
to
say
you
know,
okay
for
the
whole
affordable.
Excuse
me
the
affordable
housing
department.
You
may
have
to
go
and
sit
with
them
and
talk
to
them
to
say
what
is
what
can
they
sustain
as
they're
trying
to
implement
the
goals
that
you
all
are
setting
out
for
them
and
what
they
might
need
help
and
what?
E
B
E
Then
after
we
come
back,
it'll
be
quick,
I'm
just
going
to
go
refresh
it
up
real,
quick
and
then
after
we
come
back.
I
would
like
us
to
discuss
about
next
steps
and
any
final
thoughts
you
want
to
to
share.
While
you
have
each
other's
spaces.
E
I
would
also
like
your
documents
if
we
could
give
it
back
to
nicole,
she
will
not
get
it
done
in
five
minutes
this
time,
but
if
she
can
write
some
of
the
things
where
I
don't
know,
if
she
was
writing
in
real
time
just
to
update
this
document
so
that
we
all
have
a
clean
document
for
you
all.
That
would
be
helpful
to
the
extent
you
have
it
and
if
not,
we
can
sort
of
try
to
align
and
do
what
we
did
before.
E
Let's,
let's
do
nicole,
what
do
you
say
because
we
have
40
minutes
left.
E
E
Unfortunately,
I
have
some
obligations
at
noon
that
I
have
to
go
back
on
with
our
president.
So
do
I.
E
What
you
all
asked
me
to
do,
in
short
order,
was
to
get
the
conversation
moving
and
try
to
align
you,
and
I
think,
we've
done
a
good
job
so
far
in
the
time
frame
time
that
we've
been
able
to
pull
this
together,
where
I
think
you
all
again
need
more
significant
time
is,
in
this
section
related
to
affordable
housing.
I
do
think
that
you
could
probably
come
together
and
say
you
know
this
is
a
priority
for
the
budget,
for
resources
and
for
safety
and
for
some
of
the
issues.
E
That,
of
course,
are
that
happen
as
a
result
of
that,
but
in
terms
of
affordable
housing
or
issues
related
to
that
you
all
might
need
some
more
time
to
structure
your
philosophies
along
with
services,
along
with
what's
reasonable
in
the
budget
to
get
done.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
E
E
So
we
are
now
down
to
the
final
half
hour
and
I
want
to
give
us
time
before
we
close
out
to
talk
about
what
do
next
steps
look
like
for
you,
and
that
is
an
individual
process.
E
You
know
there
are
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
you
can
approach
this
and
the
first
thing
I
would
again.
These
are
just
mere
suggestions.
Recommendations
based
on
past
experience,
creating
a
structured
timeline
that
all
of
you
all
are
willing
to
agree
to,
because
the
timeline
will
define
how
many
of
the
conversations
you
can
have
versus
when
you
have
to
get
to
action
steps.
E
It
is
important
to
have
the
conversations,
because
you
cannot
get
to
action
steps
without
having
the
conversation.
So,
even
though
the
conversations
might
be
difficult,
you
just
need
to
have
a
time
frame
when
you're
willing
to
pivot
from
having
conversations
to
okay,
guys
we're
not
going
to
agree
on
this.
We
are
agreeing
on
this
and
now
it's
time
to
finalize
some
space,
so
I
think
that's
important
to
set
the
timeline.
I
think
it
might
be
fruitful
for
everyone
to
have
a
review
of
the
budget
to
have
an
understanding
of
the
process
of
the
budget.
E
Sometimes
we
assume
when
we
take
these
roles,
that
we
all
know
how
these
things
go
and,
of
course,
you're
having
the
most
senior
experience.
It
might
be
helpful
for
for
to
have
a
walk
through
of
what
this
process
looks
like
and
why
it's
important,
since
you
have
new
team
members,
if
you
will,
the
next
recommendation
I
would
say,
is
that
I
don't
know
how
you
deal
with
communities
from
my
lens
with
communities.
E
There's
always
a
community
leader,
even
in
an
unstructured
community,
there's
a
community
leaders
and
in
communities
there's
always
a
person
who
or
community
leaders
that
speak
for
a
whole
and
identifying
who
those
people
are.
As
you
create
these
talking
sessions.
If
you
will
it's
hard
to
get
surveys
out
done,
people
are
inundated
and
oversaturated
with
survey
monkeys
and
google
docs
and
everything.
But
when
you
have
a
community
leader,
a
person
who's
responsible,
they
do
a
good
job
of
really
asking
their
neighbors
or
putting
it
in
local.
E
You
know
the
monthly
news
journals
that
come
out
in
our
respective
neighborhoods
to
ask
people
their
thought
processes
and
try
to
create
a
fun
space
for
them
to
come
out
to
talk
with
you
all
or
for
you
to
go
a
place
where
people
are
actually
going
to
be,
I
always
say:
school
events
are
really
important.
We
had
some
challenges
trying
to
get
to
family
members,
and
I
said
well
they're
at
that
football
game
every
week.
E
You
might
want
to
try
going
to
that
football
game
and
having
a
stand
and
having
space
to
talk
to
people,
you
have
to
meet
people
where
they
are
and
so
and
then
finally,
I
would
say
before
you
go
to
the
community
so
that
you
all
are
aligned.
You
can
say
this
is
what
we've
discussed.
This
is
where
we
are.
This
is
not
set
in
stone.
We
represent
you,
but
this
is
our
starting
point.
So
those
are
just
some
suggestions.
E
One
other
note
of
looking
at
other
municipalities
that
you
admire
for
whatever
reason
and
trying
to
see
what
best
practices
they
have,
that
you
could
sort
of
include
in
your
space.
But
with
that
being
said,
I'd
like
you
all
to
talk
about
next
steps,
what
you
foresee
our
next
steps.
Those
are
just
generic
recommendations
across
the
board
that,
for
your
consideration,
I'm
going
to
go.
A
Ahead
and
start
okay,
you
know,
I
think
this
frankly
exceeded
my
expectations
today.
You
know
on
the
phone,
I
did
not
have
high
expectations,
but
I
think
this
has
been
beneficial.
I
don't
think
we're
there
yet.
A
A
E
I
would
ask
for
some
time
because
I
I
serve
a
boss
too,
who
gets
information
quickly,
dr
williams,
so
it
fits
into
our
schedule,
I'm
more
than
willing
to
facilitate.
I
would
just
like
to
have
a
moment.
You
know
to
make
sure
based
on
our
programming.
For
those
of
you
all,
don't
know
we
do
a
lot
of,
we
think
good
programming
around
the
county
and
so
that
person
there
sam
who
brought
me
to
you
all.
He
runs
my
schedule.
A
C
Yeah,
okay,
so
next
steps
and
final
thoughts.
I
agree.
I
I
think
it's
good
to
have
a
a
review
of
the
budget
and
where
the
funds
are
and
which
ones
what
what
levers
do
we
have,
and
so,
if
we
want
to
put
it
in
that
format
or
whatever,
but
we
have
data
from
the
comprehensive
plan,
those
priorities
that
were
community
communicated
by
our
community.
C
So
any
surveys
that
we
have
within
the
last
year
or
so
it
would
be
nice
if
you
know-
and
I
don't
I'm
calling
for
more
staffing,
but
if
somebody
wants
to
distill
it
down
so
that
we're
all
kind
of
looking
at
key
points.
Otherwise
we
can
just
have
a
I
envision
kind
of
having
this
packet
of
key
documents
that
we
all
agree
are
the
truth
and
we
are
looking
at
as
we
you
know,
go
forward
with
a
discussion.
C
I
mentioned
that
you
know
we
have
190
openings.
So
what
are
the
staffing
priorities
or
maybe
hr
can
give
us
a
list
of
if
they
had
a
what
their
professional
recommendation
is.
As
far
as
prioritizing
that,
I
think
we
really
need
to
look
at
the
documents
that
we
have
where
we
have
signed
on
in
the
last
two
years,
and
we
have
goals
that
we've
agreed
to,
and
so
that
would
be
the
pinellas
housing
compact
that
we
signed
on
to
granted.
C
It
does
not
have
measurable
goals,
which
is
a
fault,
but
it
has
goals,
and
it
very
much
relates
to
our
desire
to
discuss
workforce
housing
in
our
community,
and
so
I
think
we
really
need
to
have
that
front
and
center.
We
also
signed
on
to
greenprint
2.0,
which
is
our
environmental
plan.
Those
have
goals
that
we've
all
agreed
to
and
that
needs
to.
You
know
drive
some
of
our
discussion
as
well.
C
C
I
would
advise
that
our
discussion
is
not
so
much
on
chronic
homeless,
chronic
street
people
that
have
mental
health
issues
and
others
that
are
really
incredibly
challenging
to
deal
with,
but
more
of
our
everyday
employed
people,
the
the
alice
people,
the
people
that
are
you,
know,
income
constrained
and
work
in
our
community
and
cannot
cannot
afford
housing
and
food
and
other
essentials.
So
I
think
updated
data
on
that
really
helps
put
it
in
perspective
and
then
also
data.
That
shows
what
other
municipalities
are
contributing
to
those
social
supports.
C
I
know
you
know
say:
p
puts
it
well
over
a
million
and
we've
put
in
250
000
for
the
last
10
years,
it's
been
stagnant,
and
so
how
do
we
compare
that
way?
When
we
say
it's
not
our
responsibility
so
anyway,
another
data
point:
what
are
the
options
for
matching
funds
and
things
like
that?
So
again,
it's
a
it's
an
overall
education
about
what
it?
What
is
the
financial
situation
we're
in
right
now
and
what
are
the
levers
and
opportunities
we
have
going
forward
and
then
option.
C
E
And
so
I
would
say
that,
with
you
mentioned
some
very
detailed
next
steps,
your
staff
probably
needs
to
come
and
sit
with
you
all
to
have
a
conversation
because
you're
mentioning
particular
documents
or
agreements
that
you
might
be
locked
in
or
I
mean
you
mentioned
agreements,
but
you
might
have
contractual
obligations.
E
You
might
have
legal
obligations
from
a
historical
perspective
that
have
to
be
addressed,
and
you
know
in
terms
of
sometimes
comparing
municipalities,
that's
kind
of
hard,
depending
on
tax
based
structure.
What
money
is
coming
in,
so
those
are
things
that
have
to
be
contemplated
when
you're
creating
policy
going
back
again
to
your
question
is
what
are
we
going
to
do?
How
are
we
going
to
pay
for
it?
E
Talking
to
the
staff
is
going
to
be
really
key
and
I'm,
like,
I
said,
I'm
sensitive
that
because,
as
a
former
staff
person,
it's
really
nice
to
be
to
say
to
someone.
This
is
my
direction
vision
and
what
I'd
like
you
to
implement
it's
much
harder
when
leadership
walks
away,
and
then
the
staff
has
to
now
figure
out
with
resources
how
to
get
the
job
done.
So
I
think
that's
important
in
your
analysis.
Thank
you
and
I
would.
C
One
other
thing
before
we,
you
know,
go
to
the
community
and
we
can
say
you
know
this
is
what
we've
discussed.
I
think
the
word
shape
is
is
important
to
use,
as
in
we've
discussed
this
and
we're
bringing
them
on
as
a
partner
to
help
shape
that
strategic
planner
list
of
priorities.
It's
not
just.
I
want
your
feedback,
but
help
us
shape
it.
It
gives
them
a
little
more
ownership.
H
Well,
overall,
city
government
is
accountable
to
meeting
community
needs,
and
you
know
prioritizing
these
goals
in
a
transparent
and
accountable
manner
is
really
important.
I
think
we're
on
our
way
to
doing
that.
What
I
would
say
next
steps
would
be,
is
let's
let's
go
ahead
and
have
a
budget
review
see
where
we
are,
then
I'd
like
to
see
another
work
session
to
review
priorities.
H
You
know,
after
the
budget
review-
and
maybe
maybe
you
could
add,
to
the
budget
review
some
of
the
input
from
the
comp
plan
and
other
data
that
we've
had.
You
know
that
way.
We
can
at
least
get
some
data
back
as
to
what
the
community
is
expecting
and
then
public
outreach
after
that
would
be
really
important.
E
I
do
think
that
modify
has
to
be
embedded
in
all
of
you
all
when
you
go
to
public
review
and
as
you
all
are
more
than
aware,
you
have
to
be
nimble
with
what
you
hear,
because
just
because
you
all
have
had
the
time
to
reflect
if
they're
hearing
it
for
the
first
time,
they
just
may
not
agree
and
you
all
represent
the
same
community
people
who
have
been
here
generations,
people
who
are
new
to
the
community
people
who
are
business
leaders,
people
have
different
ideological
focuses
so
the
same
issues
that
you
are
contemplating
here,
you're
going
to
hear
that
magnified,
which
means
you
might
have
to
come
back
and
be
more
nimble
based
on
the
percentages.
E
H
H
Really,
a
representative
what
everybody
thinks,
because
most
people
they
don't
have
a
problem.
You
don't
hear
from
them.
I
mean
they
live
their
life
in
a
bubble,
and
you
know
as
long
as
we
pick
the
trash
up
and
everything
works,
they're
happy
and
they
don't,
you
know,
give
input,
but
we
need
to
somehow
reach
those
people
get
them
more
of
a
an
overall.
E
Well
again,
this
is
just
soft
recommendations.
Take
them
for
what
you
will.
You
have
a
lot
of
service
organizations
of
people
who
are
connected
from
rotary
clubs
to
kiwanis
clubs,
I'm
sure
I'm,
a
former
member
of
the
junior
league
in
saint
pete
area,
so
junior
league,
you
have
organizations
that
are
minority
based,
I'm
also
involved
in
african-american
organizations.
E
If
you
start
really
drilling
down
on
the
organizations
and
talking
to
their
leaders,
and
then
you
get
a
wider
swath
of
the
community
yeah
and
then,
if
you
again
go
into
the
communities
themselves
when
they
are
having
ordinary
programs,
you
know
and
start
talking
to
them.
Then,
when
they're
available,
not
when
people
are
in
their
everyday
work,
life
and
they're,
you
know
shuffling
trying
to
get
through.
E
E
You
know,
I'm
sure
you,
like
you
all,
have
beautiful
festivals
like
we
have
beautiful
festivals,
try
to
be
innovative
in
how
you
go
out
into
the
community
to
talk
to
them
to
people
instead
of
having
the
same
very
keyed
in
leaders
come
in.
A
I
think
the
other
thing
that
I
do
want
to
see
if
we
go
out
is
again
hoping
that
we
don't
just
have
a
laundry
list
of
wants,
and
I
hearkened
back
ken
to
0809,
and
we
did
some
budget
meetings
that
were
a
little
bit
different
and
the
key
to
those
was
trying
to
figure
out
what
truly
were
the
priorities
of
citizens,
and
so
we
gave
them
basically
a
fictitious
budget
with
poker
chips
that
had
denominations
on
them.
A
There
was
not
going
to
be
enough
chips
for
them
to
pay
for
everything,
and
it
was
a
process
that
kind
of
crystallized
what
people
wanted
to
spend
money
on,
because
they
had
to
make
a
decision
of
eliminating
something,
and
rather
than
just
having
this
fictitious,
unlimited
budget
which
does
not
exist.
It
was
very
helpful
back
then.
E
And
I
actually
simply
think
something
like
that
is
very
innovative,
because
people
sort
of
have
glossy
eyes
when
you
talk
about
numbers
and
just
city
priorities,
I
mean
this
is
just
the
truth
when
you're
dealing
with
average
people
who
care,
usually
when
they're
coming
to
you
about
one
thing
that
is
important
to
them
when
you
give
them
the
broader
perspective
and
you
try
to
say
and
show
them
visually.
This
is
how
much
we
have
and
we
have
a
lot
of
people
to
serve.
E
G
I
am
just
going
to
look
forward
to
the
next
step,
whichever
next
step
we
take.
F
In
my
mind,
my
the
next
step
would
be
community
involvement
and
what
that's
going
to
look
like,
so
that
we
can
have
an
accurate
depiction
of
what
that
is.
I
do
agree
with
a
lot.
That's
been
said.
F
We
have
to
present
it
in
a
different
way,
educate
first
and
then
collect
the
information,
not
just
a
wish
list,
because
that
would
be,
I
think,
useless
information,
but
we
would
have
to
be
creative,
because
what
we've
been
doing
right
now
has,
I
don't
think,
provided
an
accurate
depiction,
because
it's
always
the
same
active
people
that
show
up
so
we
do
have
to
be
creative.
F
Having
said
all
that,
because
I
do
agree
with
a
lot
of
that's
been
said
this
session
to
me-
showed
me
how
much
we
need
another
one,
if
not
maybe
two,
because
reviewing
your
questions
that
you
provided
mayor,
hibbard,
there's
a
lot
here
that
I
do
want
to
talk
about,
but
I
do
want
to
hear
from
the
rest
of
the
council
on
how
they
feel,
because
I
think
they're,
maybe
not
the
number
one
priority,
but
they
are
important
enough
to
discuss
it.
F
So
the
next
step
is
community
involvement
and
schedule
another
work
session
because
there's
a
lot.
I
need
to
learn
from
you
guys
and
and
and
communicate
as
well.
E
So
think
about
a
question
that
you
really
want
to
know
that
you've
not
asked
that
you
need
that
information,
but
instead
of
asking
one
someone
to
come
off
and
just
say
a
statement,
but
for
them
to
go
and
figure
out
an
appropriate
response
that
addresses
your
question
and
then
we'll
close
with
that
and
that
the
mayor's
pleasure
his
comments
and,
however
he
wants
to
end.
E
A
A
Well,
some
of
the
ones
that
I
think
are
near
and
dear
to
your
heart.
H
H
E
F
I
guess
I'm
just
drilling
down
a
lot.
I
want
to
ask
you:
what
are
what
strategic
plans,
if
any,
have
you
seen
that
you
would
like
to
emulate
so
we're
not
reinventing
the
wheel.
B
G
Well
I'll,
ask
you
because
you're
new
do
you
think
we
should
consider
scientology
a
partner.
C
How
do
you
this
would
be.
A
B
E
Them
watching
them
in
real
time.
I
stopped
writing
once
I
saw
you
all
got
the
flow
of
what
I
was
doing
so
so,
sir
I've
completed
you
all's
request
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
back
for
you.
For
closing.
I
want
to
thank
each
of
you
again.
E
It's
always
hard
to
ask
to
say
to
people,
just
it
seems
very
simple,
but
to
ask
people
to
act
in
good
faith,
to
be
honest
and
to
listen
is
one
of
the
hardest
skills.
I
think
all
of
us
have
as
human
beings
and
you
all
listen
and
you
all
came
with
open
minds
and
you
listen
to
each
other
today
and
I
hope
your
conversation
moves
forward
better
because
of
it,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
for
allowing
me
to
facilitate
this
and,
on
behalf
of
st
petersburg
college,
your
your
county,
your
city,
matters,
people.
E
E
They
are
the
reason
why
we
do
so
much
for
for
the
respective
cities
within
the
county.
So
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
be
here
and
for
moving
the
need
a
little
bit
more.
A
C
But
well,
this
is
just
a
little
tag
on.
Can
we
have
some
idea
of
a
time
frame
like
we
talk
about
next
steps,
but
are
we
talking?
I
know
there
was
mention
of
trying
to
reach
out
to
residents
with
some
sort
of
a
survey,
perhaps
by
the
end
of
the
month,
but
I
mean
what
are
we
looking
at
for
the
next
couple
of
months
for
steps
well.
B
A
B
A
B
A
To
see
us
done
in
eight
weeks,
I
think
that
may
be
overly
ambitious.
Unfortunately,
it's
a
shame
not
to
have
this
in
place
prior
to
us
going
into
full
budget
discussions,
because
then
you
push
out
to
2023,
and
that
was
not
what
I
envisioned
when
we
started
out
on
this
process.
E
E
I
would
suggest
again
spending
some
time
with
the
data
collecting
it,
but
now
that
you
have
a
sufficient
amount
to
review
it
with
your
staff
and
sort
of
hone
it
in
into
a
space
where
it's
not
overwhelming,
you
know
creating
categories
of.
What's
what
you've
learned
from
it,
because,
again
and
again,
I'm
not
speaking
for
all
citizens,
the
general
citizen,
when
they're
taking
time
away
from
their
kids
in
baseball
and
ballet
and
food
and
dinner,
don't
want
to
sit
for
hours
at
a
meeting
hearing.
A
So,
dr
jackson,
I'm
gonna
use
dr
jackson
in
this
instance,
because
I'm
gonna
get
very
professional
about
it.
You
know,
as
you
said,
at
the
onset,
we're
not
being
charged
for
this.
A
That's
great
from
a
budgetary
standpoint,
sometimes
I
like
paying
somebody
because
then
I
can
set
expectations
and
you
know
if,
if
I
were
contracting
with
you
right
now,
I
would
say
this
is
the
time
frame.
I
want
to
get
this
done
in
and
this
is
the
byproduct
that
I
want
to
see
and
I
don't
feel
like.
I
have
that
luxury
in
this
current
relationship,
and
so
at
some
point
we
need
to
know
whether
you
feel
like
this
is
an
endeavor
that
you
want
to
continue
with
or
whether
we
do
need
to
find
another
party.
E
Right
so
I
would
just
say
you
know,
from
the
perspective
of
I
mean
most
diverse
millworth
government
structure,
I'm
a
direct
service
organization
embedded
in
the
college.
I
have
15
board
members
that
I
report
to,
along
with
the
college
side,
we
have
programming
in
place
that
I
cannot
change
or
alter
in
terms
of
possibly
meeting
your
time
frame,
and
so
most
of
this
is
my
specific
expertise.
E
If
you
will-
and
so
we
have
a
small
team
of
collating
all
that
so
there's
myself,
sam,
a
web
content,
specialist
or
a
visual
media,
specialist
and
my
assistant,
so
it
would
depend
on
the
scope
of
what
you're
asking
but,
more
importantly,
because
we
have
not
done
this
particular
type
of
work
before
I've
done
it
in
my
purse
capacity,
but
not
in
my
work
capacity.
I
don't
know
what
my
either
my
board
or
my
you
know.
Our
leadership
would
say.
Ultimately
I
report
to
the
president
in
the
board
of
trustees
for
saint
petersburg
college.
E
So
that's
why
I
said
you
know
I
would.
I
would
be
disingenuous
if
I
said
yes
and
didn't
get
an
appropriate
response,
I'll
try
to
get
that
as
quickly
as
possible
from
you
all
to
guide
you
and
then
happy
because
of
my
community,
my
record
within
the
community.
We
have
a
lot
of
great
attorneys
and
mediators,
not
necessarily
corporations,
who
can
do
that.
The
clearwater
bar
association.
E
They
have
hundreds
of
me
that
I
think
would
do
a
really
great
job
too.
So
I
just
wanted
to
be
honest
about
that
when
I
was
when
we
were
asked.
Quite
frankly,
I
was
out
of
town
and
sam
said.
You
know
my
my
associate
director
soon
will
be
project
coordinator.
E
I
need
you
to
do
this
little
navigation
of
clear
water,
and
so
I
was
like,
oh
sure,
certainly
and
then,
as
I
started
reading
I
was
like
this
is
not
little
scene
but,
like
I
said,
I'm
a
public
servant,
I'm
I'm
always
happy
to
serve.
E
I
love
the
the
importance
of
government
and
also,
although
I
never
share
my
personal
philosophy,
I
love
people
to
understand
the
scope
of
government,
and
that
is
an
education
process
and
then,
where
you
fall
after
you
are
educated
about,
the
process
is
how
you
all
lead,
but
it
is
important
to
have
these
conversations
so
that
you
can
actually
you
know,
mesh
and
align.
So
I
hope
I've
answered
your
question.
That's
why
I
can't
I
can't
speak.
I
don't
even
think
we
would
have
anything
to
tell
you
what
something
would
be,
but
I
will
follow
up.
A
Change
horses,
a
third
time:
this
is
not
good
process,
it
just
isn't.
E
E
I
will
get
back
with
you
and,
and
we
can,
whatever
whoever
you
all
decide
to
call
to
for
us
to
discuss
and
try
to
ask
us
out
happy
to
do
that.