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A
Thank
you
good
evening.
Everyone
we'll
call
the
December
15
2022
council
meeting
to
order
I
would
ask
for
everyone
to
rise.
I
did
not
know.
I
was
giving
the
invocation
tonight,
so
you're
gonna
get
what
you
get
and
please
remain
standing
for
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
Heavenly
Father.
We
just
thank
you
for
this
time
that
we
can
come
together
and
we
pray
for
wisdom
and
discernment
as
we
make
decisions
on
them.
Lord
I
pray
that
we
might
just
slow
down
in
this
holiday
season.
A
And
I
pray
for
those
who
have
lost
family
members
who
they
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
celebrate,
I
pray
that
we
might
just
be
that
much
Kinder
than
those
that'll
take
a
little
time
and
also
understand
that
there
are
some
that
do
not
have
all
the
blessings
that
we
have
and
that
we
can
be
more
generous
towards
them
both
and
mind
spirit.
A
A
Want
to
introduce
the
dice
Michael
Delk
is
sitting
in
tonight,
David
Albritton
good
evening,
councilmember
Beckman
good
evening
council
member
bunker
good
evening,
council
member
sheda
and
our
City
attorney
David
Margolis
good
evening.
We
have
a
service
award
to
start
the
evening.
I
guess
this
was
before
child
labor
laws,
but
I'd
like
to
call
David
Pearson
forward
for
10
years
of
service.
A
And
I
would
ask
if
there
are
any
amendments
to
the
minutes
of
the
December
1st
2022
meeting
if
we
would
approve
the
minutes.
Second,
all
in
favor
aye
opposed
unanimous
at
this
time.
I'll
open
it
up
to
citizens
to
be
heard.
If
there
are
any
citizens
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
speak
to
items
that
are
not
on
the
agenda,
we
ask
you
to
come
up.
Introduce
yourself
fill
out
a
comment
card
and
we
respectfully
ask
you
to
keep
your
comments
to
three
minutes.
C
C
C
Now
what
we
have
is
a
problem.
Everyone
should
see
the
problem
that
the
plant
notices
that
were
issued,
one
approved
and
voted
on
and
one
that
was
presented
and
went
through
planning
and
DRC
never
got
voted
on,
and
so
we
have
a
problem.
All
these
permits
should
be
revoked
for
this
school
by
using
Nursery
Road.
C
The
school
will
adversely
impact
the
neighborhood
due
to
noise
and
increase
of
traffic
of
vehicles
according
to
the
institutional
District
of
section
2
1201,
the
intent
and
purpose
is
clear:
I'm
going
to
take
a
part
of
it
and
it
says
in
support
of
quality
of
life,
of
citizens
of
the
city
of
Clearwater,
without
adversely
impacting
the
Integrity,
what
Jason,
residential
neighborhood
and
by
diminishing
the
scenic
quality
of
the
city
of
Clearwater
and
negatively,
impacting
the
safe
and
efficient
movement
of
people
and
things
within
the
city
of
Clearwater.
It's
pretty
obvious.
D
And
I
can't
let
the
debacle
about
Mary,
O'connor,
former
Tampa
police
chief
go
unmentioned.
D
There's
plenty
of
bad
things
going
on
right
here
in
Clearwater,
with
the
Clearwater
Police
Department
now
I
have
been
instructed
that
if
I
want
a
letter
of
reprimand
issued
for
a
certain
police
officer
that
I
have
to
petition
Mr
Slaughter
for
it,
that's
what
I'm
doing
here
in
a
very
public
way,
I'm
hereby
requesting
Mr
Slaughter,
stop
covering
up
for
by
the
Lou
Hatcher
and,
at
very
least,
very
least,
with
all
the
bad
news.
This
guy
is,
and
the
horrible
example
is
of
a
Clearwater
Police
Officer.
D
E
F
And
Community
Development
block
grant
funding
from
HUD
performance
and
evaluation
report
by
December
30th
of
each
year.
It's
called
the
cape
ending
on
September
30th
2022.,
the
main
purpose
of
the
Capers
to
document
our
use
of
federal
funds,
which,
of
course,
are
cdbg
and
home
and
the
narrative
sections
of
the
report.
We
discuss
our
accomplishments
using
State
local
funds,
and
this
ends
up
making
the
report
representative
of
our
whole
body
of
work
in
the
housing
division.
F
Through
the
cdbg
and
home
program
we
spent
1
million
375
885
dollars.
We
also
spent
an
additional
988
thousand
seven
hundred
fifty
dollars
in
state
and
local
funds.
We
also
spent
two
hundred
thirty
thousand
dollars
in
cdbgcv,
which
is
an
allocation
from
HUD
specifically
to
address
the
impacts
from
the
pandemic.
F
So
what
do
we
accomplish
under
very
challenging
home
buyer
conditions?
We
closed
seven
down
payment
assistance,
loans,
totaling
296
thousand
three
hundred
dollars.
We
spent
four
hundred
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
to
complete
the
rehabilitation
of
12
single-family
homes.
This
is
probably
our
most
staff
intensive
program
compete.
We
completed
a
major
Rehabilitation
at
Lexington
Club
at
Renaissance
Square.
Our
contribution
is
three
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
this
helped
leverage
a
much
larger
project
that
rehabilitated
all
240
units
at
the
complex.
As
you
know,
we
have
a
strong
relationship
with
Habitat
for
Humanity.
F
They
completed
nine
new
single-family
homes.
In
the
program
year
we
spent
nearly
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
14
public
facility
projects
with
various
Partners.
We
spent
166
500
for
eight
public
service
providers
with
cdb
CV
funding,
Suncoast
housing
connection
provided
mortgage
assistance
in
forecl,
foreclosure
counseling,
the
homeless
leadership
allowance
provided
housing,
navigation
services
and
directions
for
Living,
helped
to
relocate
seniors
from
the
former
Prospect
house,
provided
just
over
107
thousand
dollars
to
prospera
and
to
Tampa
Bay
black
business
Investment
corporation
to
provide
education
and
technical
assistance
to
Clearwater
business
owners
and
entrepreneurs.
F
We
provided
twenty
six
thousand
three
hundred
twenty
five
dollars
to
Suncoast
Housing
Connections
in
Tampa
Bay,
Neighborhood,
Housing
Services,
to
provide
homeownership
education
and
counseling
151.
Clearwater
residents
took
advantage
of
this
program
and,
as
you
all
know,
we
contributed
250
000
in
general
funds
to
six
organizations
working
to
eliminate
homelessness.
We
collect
accomplishments
throughout
the
year.
We're
required
to
do
that
by
the
funding
sources,
so
we
we
do
track.
The
number
of
people
served
through
those
accomplishments
overall,
using
state
federal
and
local
funds.
F
H
I
Mayor
council,
Sheridan
jamont
sustainability
coordinator
this
evening,
staff
has
brought
forward
a
ready
for
100
resolution
for
your
votes.
Approval
of
this
resolution
is
recommended
by
the
city's
environmental
Advisory
Board,
which
created
the
draft
I'm
happy
to
go
through
the
presentation
that
was
provided
at
the
work
session
this
week.
If
requested
happy
to
also
answer
any
questions.
A
All
right,
obviously,
I've
asked
a
bunch
of
questions
about
this
I'm
still
concerned
about
the
overall
call
costs.
We've
talked
about
what
some
of
the
expenses
are,
but
they're
very
general,
and
these
are
really
comments.
So
I'm
not
going
to
ask
you,
but
one
of
the
things
I
am
concerned
about
and
I
say:
I
disagree
with
Mr
Margolis
on
the
difference
between
a
goal
and
a
policy
disagreed
to
they're
different
and
I
talked
to
one
of
the
Mayors,
the
cities.
That's
already
past
this
and
he
said
well,
it's
it's
just
aspiration.
A
I
will
tell
you,
when
I
pass
a
resolution
and
vote
for
something
I
plan
to
accomplish
I,
don't
believe
in
window
dressing,
I
think
if
we
do
something
we
ought
to
complete
it.
Otherwise
we
shouldn't
be
moving
towards
that
goal.
So
I
I,
don't
mind.
Having
goal
in
the
actual
resolution,
I
would
like
to
take
out
policy
where
that
is
because
I
don't
think
they're
equivalent,
but
that's
just
my
opinion.
I
know
the
other
day.
I
was
going
to
go
down
on
this
for
one
just
fine.
J
Okay,
so
is
it
really
aspirational?
Consider
this
is
technology
evolving
faster
than
Society
can
handle
technology
moves
faster
than
our
imaginations
to
keep
up
with.
We
invent
one
Brit
one
breakthrough
technology
today
and
then
tomorrow,
in
inventors
transform
into
another
another,
we
never
imagined
possible.
J
J
The
past
10
years
have
brought
us
countless,
life-changing,
Innovations,
Technologies
disruptive
nature
continues
to
transform
our
world.
This
week,
U.S
scientists
reached
a
long-awaited
nuclear
fusion
breakthrough.
Researchers
have
been
able
to
create
more
energy
than
it
takes
to
make
a
nuclear
reaction.
It's
a
giant
step
toward
clean
energy
future
without
fossil
fuels.
J
So
I
think
it
may
be
a
great
goal
to
Aspire
to
but
I'm
confident
that
we
will
be
able
to
probably
be
there
before
2040.
So
that's
why
I'm
voting
for
this
I
think
we
we're
just
we're
moving
at
the
speed
of
light
here
and
if
we
say
we
are
I,
think
we're
actually
going
to
meet
that
goal
before
the
dates
we
have
in
here.
B
Well,
that
was
just
amazing.
Thank
you
for
that
statement.
I
just
want
to
applaud
I,
fully
agree
and
I
appreciate.
You
know
you
voicing
that
information.
B
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
our
city
staff
has
done
an
incredible
job,
put
incredible
work
into
putting
us
on
the
right
path
to
realize
these
type
of
clean
electricity
goals,
we're
already
realizing
significant
savings
with
our
Energy
Efficiency
programs
and
we're
on
track
to
save
so
much
more
with
our
solar
installations
that
are
coming.
B
You
might
not
know
that
Duke
is
raising
their
rates,
so
that
means
our
savings
are
going
to
be
even
greater
and
payback
will
be
even
sooner
we're
on
the
path
to
save
millions
of
dollars
that
can
be
reinvested
into
our
community.
It's
exciting
to
see
our
green
print,
2.0
and
Mission
goals
be
joined
with
clean
electricity
goals
and
financial
savings.
B
I
wanted
to
extend
a
thank
you
to
our
city
staff,
in
particular
our
sustainability
coordinator,
Sheridan
gamont,
our
director
of
innovation,
Micah
Maxwell,
and
to
our
environmental
Advisory
Board
as
well,
for
bringing
this
forward
as
well
as
residents
who
have
communicated
to
us
their
support
for
this
initiative,
and
it's
really
good
to
feel
like
Clearwater
is
a
leader
in
both
reducing
pollution
and
saving
significant
amounts
of
money
that
we
can
put
back
into
our
community.
B
G
K
Yeah
I
I
I
Echo.
A
lot
of
the
comments
ever
said
before.
I
I
really
view
this,
as
all
of
us
getting
together,
make
a
commitment
not
only
as
a
city
but
as
a
County
to
Aspire
to
be
you
know,
responsible
to
our
environment.
I
do
not
see
this
as
a
legally
binding
contract,
and
it
doesn't
stress
me
out
to
be
honest
with
you.
I
just
really
feel
that
this
is
an
aspirational
document
that
unites
us
in
one
goal,
so
I
will
be
voting
yes
for
it.
A
A
B
Thank
you,
I
do
have
just
a
few
questions.
I
wanted
to
start
by
thanking
staff
and
Ruth
Eckerd
Hall
for
getting
the
information
to
us
this
week.
So
we
have
a
number
of
attachments
to
the
agenda,
particularly
Financial
numbers.
So
that's
appreciated.
It
looks
like
you
know,
going
forward.
We
have
a
plan
to
recoup
our
costs,
which
is
not
surprising,
right,
I'm,
fully
supportive
of
Ruth
record
Hall
and
what
they
can
do
for
our
community,
bring
to
our
community
and
supporting
this
venue.
So
I'm
excited
about
it
and
being
excited
about.
B
It
is
not
the
same,
as
you
know,
doing
due
diligence
and
making
sure
we
have
the
best
information
in
black
and
white
in
a
contract
that
we
sign,
and
so
I
looked
at
the
changes
and
just
have
a
couple.
I
went
over
a
number
of
them
this
afternoon
with
our
City
attorney
and
feel
comfortable,
but
there
are
just
a
couple
of
questions:
I
have
about
some
specific
parts
and.
B
One
of
the
things
so
one
thing
that
came
up
that
I
had
noted
for
Monday,
but
I
was
only
going
to
choose
a
few
things
to
talk
about
on
Monday,
but
but
this
is
still
in
the
contract
and
I.
Think
it's
just
part
of
a
good
relationship
is
when
you
talk
about
collecting
data
on
the
users
of
the
venue,
people
who
order
tickets,
where
they
come
from,
what's
their
address
and
all
that
and
that
that's
all
proprietary
and
I
get
that
but
I'm
thinking.
B
If
there's,
if
there's
a
way
or
an
event
where
we
gather
information
for
City
or
community
events
that
are
really
primarily
geared
towards
our
residents,
if
they
have
any
Ruth
Ecker
Hall
has
any
data
about
who's
attending
I.
Think
that
would
be
helpful
to
us
to
understand
what
residents
are
using
the
venue
are:
are
people
from
throughout
our
city
coming
down
to
use
the
venue?
Are
we
missing
some
neighborhoods
or
you
know
it's
just
we're
not
going
to
do
anything
specific
with
the
data,
but
just
kind
of
give
us
an
idea.
B
O
Thank
you,
Susan
Crockett,
with
record
Hall.
Absolutely
I
would
be
happy
to
do
an
annual
statistical
report
as
well.
To
kind
of
give
you
an
idea.
I
think
when
we
talk
about
the
privacy
of
the
information,
we're
just
talking
about
people's
home
addresses
their
phone
numbers.
That
kind
of
a
thing
which
we
do
always
assure
our
purchasers
if
that's
remains
private
with
us.
So.
O
B
Good
then
I
had.
B
It
starts
with
Stage
production
equipment
and
all
that
so
there's
and
there
are
numbers
Capital
Investments
on
the
left
and
those
are
all
Investments
by
Ruth,
Eckerd
Hall.
So
far,
the
ones
that
are
left
blank
like
seating
by
finding
signage,
listen
everywhere,
Wi-Fi
the
city's
paying
for
that.
But
we
don't
have
a
number
I
mean.
That's
not
part
of
your
156
200..
That's
correct,
correct!
Okay,
all
right
same
thing
with
the
VIP
furniture
dressing
room,
furniture
City
pays
for
all
that
yeah.
O
There's
a
question
trying
to
figure
out
what
exactly
they
have
and
what
we
might
need
to
supplement,
and
you
know
there's
been
some
revisions
through
the
process.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have.
You
know
as
much
information
as
we
can
get.
O
O
A
Okay,
it'll
also
be
who
the
sponsor
is
hopefully
going
to
be
yeah.
B
Of
that
Marquee
signing
sure
I,
don't
understand
what
the
on
the
city
of
Clearwater
imagine
Clearwater,
Amphitheater,
venue,
I
think
this
is
from
Webb.
Oh,
it
is
it's
per
web
conservative
utilization
scenario
that
First
Column,
not
you
know.
B
P
So
that
was
what
we've
been
basing
our
general
fund
forecast
and
our
budgeting
off
of,
along
with
more
current
estimates
from
Parks
wreck
of
the
other
costs
of
Park
beautification
Landscaping
Etc.
But
so
that's
just
that's
just
for
comparison
purposes,
and
then
year,
one
through
five
are
under
the
current
proposed
agreement.
Okay
for
comparison,
so
you
can
see
per
the
bottom
line
per
web.
We
were,
we
were
estimating
a
deficit
of
1.6
million
in
the
first
year.
The
first
year
of
this
agreement
we're
projecting
a
surplus
of
121.
B
000.,
okay,
okay
and
then
I
guess
to
go
along
with
that.
I
just
had
a
there
were
a
couple
of
questions
about
the
costs
that
it
was
some
costs
related
to
it,
I'm
just
going
to
find
the
right
there's
so
many
documents
that
came
in
kind
of
you
know
I
think
I
think
Susan.
They
were
numbers
related
to
oh
here
they
are
so
their
numbers
provided
by
Ruth,
Eckerd
Hall,
and
so
it's
a
it's.
B
The
document
that
was
attached
to
my
email
that
I
sent
out
on
Tuesday,
and
then
it
came
back
okay,
so
expenses
by
category
we've
got
oh.
So
these
are
the
that's
right.
I
I
did
get
this
clarification
from
Mr
Margolis,
but
I
guess
it
was.
For
example,
I
was
looking
at
food
and
beverage
going
around
going
across
year,
one
year
two
year
three
year,
four,
as
well
as
wages
and
benefits
operations
and
I
didn't
I.
I
would
think
that
these
would
go
up.
B
You
know
because
you're
going
to
increase,
Staffing
and
costs
are
going
to
increase
the
cost
of
food
and
beverage
is
going
to
increase
and
all
that.
But
what
he
explained
to
me
and
I
guess
you
can
confirm
I
mean.
Is
there
percentages
of
your
right?
That's
what
that
is:
okay,
right,
okay,
okay
and
then,
and
then
I
guess.
This
is
pretty!
You
know
key
at
the
bottom
of
this
page.
B
So
again,
this
is
that
attachment
we
have.
The
revenues
coming
in
would
be
the
surcharge
per
ticket,
naming
rights
to
the
city,
see
where
I'm
at
that
box
at
the
bottom
and
then
25
profit
share
over
eight
percent
profit
margin
and
that
kind
of
kicks
in
in
year.
Three.
All
of
that
is
understandable.
I.
B
You
know
what
do
I
know
about
venue
management,
but
it
seems
reasonable
right,
but
my
question
is,
then:
so
the
total
fees
and
profit
share
to
the
city,
so
we
have
one
million
102
895
for
the
first
year
and
then
we
don't
kind
of
hit
our
at
least
two
million
dollar
Sweet
Spot
until
year,
four,
which
is
okay,
because
then,
as
we
go
along,
hopefully
the
money's
going
to
flow
in.
B
But
my
question
is,
and
this
so
there's
two
and
it's
really
probably
more
to
Jay,
is
what
fund
are
we
going
to
be
using
to
pay
our
debts
on
years?
One
two
and
three:
is
it
going
to
come
like
from
General
funds?
P
B
All
from
the
general
fund,
okay
and
then
and
then
this
is
just
another
question:
that's
about
protecting
the
city.
So
if
we
go
through
in
years,
three
four
and
the
numbers
just
aren't.
Looking
like
we're,
projecting
I
was
wondering
you
know
what
levers
do
we
have
to
make
a
correction
and
to
me
it
looks
like
the
levers
would
be
a
surcharge
per
ticket
like
like
bumping
those
up
a
little
bit
with.
Are
there
other
levers
that
I'm
missing.
B
O
B
So
I
think
that's
what
I've
got
on
financials
and
I
I
do
appreciate
getting
those
financials
for
our
vote
tonight.
The
other
concerns
I
have
and
I
do
appreciate
the
sustainability
language.
B
I
look
I,
have
a
lot
of
confidence
in
our
sustainability
staff
and
and
you
and
what
you've
done
out
at
Ruth
Eckard
a
hall
so
I
think
there
are
concerns
about
fencing
and
Public
Access,
which
are
huge
for
our
residents,
and
so
it's
my
understanding
that
there
are
some
concerns
about
securing
the
fencing
appropriately,
that
you
are
expecting
to
have
that
stage,
totally
fenced
off
and
non-accessible.
Unless
there's
a
performance
going
on
and
you're
in
control
of
who's
up
there.
N
Yes,
we're
working
through
that
as
Susan
indicated
again.
These
are
things
that
we're
going
to
find
out
as
we
go
along
and
what
works
best
to
have
up
there.
We
have
fencing,
that's
already
planned
for
the
the
amphitheater
around
the
perimeter
of
it,
but
as
far
as
fencing
and
accessing
on
the
stage
there'll
be
different
mechanisms
that
we
can
use
to
secure
it.
Q
A
To
meet
people's
expectations
and
also
balance
safety
and
protection
of
expensive
equipment,
I
mean
most
of
the
equipment
will
be
locked
away
between
shows,
but
there
will
be
some
in
the
rafters.
That's
going
to
stay
in
place.
Q
Yes,
I
think
you
know
we're
at
a
point
where,
with
the
construction,
we're
starting
to
have
those
operational
considerations
really
come
to
the
surface,
as
one
would
expect,
we
don't
have
an
operational
history,
so
we're
going
to
start
developing
it,
but
we're
not
going
to
wait
till
day,
one
to
start
developing
it.
So
we've
been
working
with
Ruth
Eckerd
Hall
as
a
partner
to
kind
of
get
the
orientation
on
these.
Q
Some
of
these
operational
characteristics,
and
so
I
know
this
has
been
a
a
a
question,
and
so
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
to
kind
of
walk
through
with
you,
where
staff
has
tried
to
lead
us,
given
what
we've
heard
from
you
all
as
your
various
priorities
over
the
years.
This
does
not
mean
that
we
are
one
and
done
and
that
we
won't
have
operational
changes
and
impacts
once
we're
up
and
open
and
working
with
our
partner
to
to
manage
the
facility.
Q
But
what
I
would
like
to
briefly
show
Council
his
the
permanent
fencing
plan
for
the
the
arena
venue?
Rather,
we
are
so
what
we
have
in
the
in
the
yellow
outline
area
is
a
series
of
permanent
fencing
that
will
be
in
the
park.
This
is
going
to
be
decorative
fencing
and
it
will
be
a
combination
of
four
feet
and
six
feet
fencing.
Q
So
the
the
red
area,
which
is
a
point
to
the
red
areas
which
are
right
here
along
the
rear
of
the
facility
right
in
this
particular
area
here,
is
an
area
four
foot
fencing.
What
I
want
to
point
out
is
some
of
this
area
in
here
is
where
we'll
have
vendors
and
that
sort
of
thing
there's
facilities
and
everything
set
up
there
once
we're
secured
for
an
event.
There
are
sections
in
place
of
six
foot,
fencing
decorative
as
well
that
extend
in
the
areas
up
here
towards
the
block
block.
Q
This
is
not
in
closed
sections
of
fencing,
so
when
the
venue
is
not
in
use,
there
will
be
the
opportunity
for
the
public
to
have
access
to
the
area.
That
is
what
we
believe
to
have
been.
Q
Our
definitive
direction
is
to
provide
access,
but
we
understand
that's
very
ticketed
events
we
are
preparing
with
and
again
our
staff,
who
is
working
on
planning
for
the
operational
impacts
of
the
venue,
we'll
be
working
with
with
our
partner
on
how
we
go
about
securing
that
particular
event
and
they're
being
the
professional
operators
of
that
are
going
to
have
their
very
specific
ideas
on
in
terms
of
how
they
want
to
manage
that
secured
access
for
our
ticketed
events.
Q
The
current
iteration
as
we
are
constructing
is
this
is
the
stage
area
so
right
now
the
stage
itself
is
not
cordoned
off,
but
the
area
of
the
stage
floor
will
be
locked
and
everything
else
beyond
the
yellow
lines
here
will
be
secured
area
behind
the
stage
door.
What
we
have
here
in
the
back
is
a
combination
of
like
garage
or
or
large
doors
that
will
slide
together
and
secure
the
back
of
house.
Q
So
what
we
would
have,
if
you
see
a
seat
pattern
here,
which
is
the
a
concept
seat
pattern
seats,
are
not
permanent,
so
there
may
be
times
when
the
seats
are
there.
There
may
be
times
when
the
seats
are
out,
I.
Think
right
now,
you
know
with
working
with
our
partner
when
the
seats
are
in
place,
we're
certainly
going
to
want
to
maintain
security
of
the
area
generally.
If
the
seats
are
not
there,
then
you
know
that
will
not
longer
any
longer
be
a
factor.
One
would
presumably
be
able
to
access.
Q
Based
on
that
permanent
fencing
scenario,
that
I
just
showed
you
of
the
area
Under
The
Canopy
of
the
lawn.
It
was
a
matter
of
operational
impact.
It's
determined
that
we
need
to
do
more
to
extend
the
security
of
the
air
here
then.
This
is
certainly
something
that
we
could
do:
we're
not
precluded
from
making
any
further
changes.
Q
That
is
a
construction
status
right
now,
we're
not
adding
that
change
or
redesigning
there's
design
for
that
and
I
think
you
all
understand
that,
given
the
timeline
where
we
are
with
anticipated
opening
the
construction
dollars
and
that
sort
of
thing
we
at
some
point,
we
have
to
quit
designing
things.
Q
So
we
need
to
build
it
so
right
now
we're
in
the
building
at
sage
and
once
it's
once
we're
up
and
running,
then
we'll
determine
if
we
need
to
make
operational
changes
when
we're
working
with
the
partner
on
management
for
venue
and
again,
this
is
based
on
our
understanding
what
council,
policy
and
Direction
has
been
in
the
past
and
it's
a
very
deliberate
in
terms
of
what
we
intended
to
deliver.
Q
There
are
two
areas
here
that
are
where
the
public
has
accessible
access
to
the
kind
of
the
special
service
area
where
the
off
to
the
sides,
the
both
of
these,
are
going
to
be
protected
by
kind
of
roll
down
doors
that
will
block
access
to
the
to
the
stairwells
from
here,
so
that
when
the
venue
is
not
in
in
place
or
in
operation
that
will
be
secured.
There
are
two
public
large
public
restrooms
located
here
at
the
side
of
the
venue.
Q
I
think
those
can
be
locked
or
unlocked
based
on
need
if
it's
a
ticketed
event
and
it's
enclosed
it'll
be
there
for
the
the
patrons
of
the
venue
when
the
venue
is
not
in
use.
Those
restaurants
theoretically
could
be
made
available
to
the
public.
It
man
calls
for
it
if
it's
a
slow
day.
If
there's
not
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
folks
in
the
park,
please
remember
that
we
have
another
public
restroom
facility
near
the
library
at
the
end
of
the
the
bluff
block.
Q
We
also
have
another
restroom
facility
down
near
the
the
lake
in
the
marina
area,
so
this
can
be
opened
or
closed
as
necessary,
depending
on
the
demand
of
the
park.
So
right
now
that
is
the
construction
plan.
That
is
what
we
are
building,
but
we
are
having
conversations
on
a
regular
basis
with
our
partner
about
you,
know,
anticipating
and
planning
how
to
deal
with
the
operational
impacts
once
we're
up
and
running.
B
Q
Understand
the
agreement
that
that
is
something
that
we
can
manage
if
the
venue
is
not
in
use
once
the
venue
goes
under
use,
then
it
will
be
our
partner's
responsibility
to
manage
the
access
to
the
bathroom,
so
they'll
be
they'll,
be
enclosed,
they'll,
be
within
the
ticket.
The
new
area.
B
Okay,
and
so
the
venue
has
removable
seating,
so
these
are
chairs
right
and
they're
going
to
go
on.
Astroturf
I
was
told
today.
I
was
wondering
what
the
okay,
so
they
go
there
and
there's
you
know
an
expense
to
setting
up
and
taking
down
chairs.
So
I'm
wondering
you
know
what
are
the
thoughts
that
you
had
conversations
about.
B
You
know
if
chairs
are
up
on
on
a
weekend
we
have
a
weekend
event
and
then
there's
going
to
be
another
weekend
event.
The
next
weekend
are
those
chairs
going
to
stay
up
so
that
our
residents
aren't
going
to
access
that
area
or
are
is
the
expectation
that
the
chairs
come
down
and
then
people
can
access
the
Shaded.
Q
I
think
they're,
their
temporary
seating
non-permanent
seating,
I
should
say,
is
probably
more
the
correct
term
intentionally
by
virtue
of
our
Charter
limitations.
So
I
think
it's
it's
a
matter
of
us
working
with
our
partner
in
terms
of
they
are
responsible
for
setup
and
take
down
the
the
chairs
right.
Q
So
it
may
depend
on
I
think
the
way
the
agreement
is
drafted
right
now,
there's
a
certain
amount
of
flexibility
for
us
that
if
we
do
three
concerts
pretty
close
together,
let's
say
over
five
or
six
days,
we
would
not
necessarily
have
to
ask
them
or
tell
them
to
remove
the
seats
at
that
point
after
every
show
we
could
have.
You
know
when
you've
got
a
series
of
events
that
may
be
an
area
where
operationally
again
we're
gonna.
You.
Q
A
comfort
level
with
with
Ruth
Eckard
Hall
and
you
know
in
terms
of
the
venue,
is
when
once
a
period
of
time,
when
you
know
we
may
need
access
to
the
the
venue
of
space,
we
may
ask
for
chairs
that
you
know
if
they
are
there
for
some
reason
for
a
series
event
that
they'd
be
removed
for
our
use.
It
would
be
as
I
understand.
The
contractual
language
right
now
would
be
up
to
Ruth
ever
call
to
remove
the
chairs,
but
I
think.
On
the
other
hand,
it
gives
us
the
flexibility.
Q
If
we're
doing
you
know,
we
do
jazz
holiday,
for
example,
and
maybe
three
or
four
days
later
there's
another
show
scheduled
by
by
the
hall.
Then
you
know,
theoretically,
we
wouldn't
have
to
take
up
the
chairs
just
to
put
them
right
back
down
and
I
think
some
flexibility
on
that
is
to
an
advantage
of
both
of
us.
Probably
we
have.
A
A
B
I
would
say:
yes,
it
is
labor
and
has
a
cost,
and
that's
specifically
my
point
and
my
point
is
that
it's
a
labor
and
cost
for
Ruth,
Eckerd
Hall
and
that's
okay,
because
you've
taken
on
you
know
that
responsibility.
But
if,
if
what
I'm
my
conversations
may
be
the
public
who
says
wow,
we
don't
we
don't
I
want
to
walk
down
there.
B
More
I
want
to
be
under
that
shaded
structure,
more
whatever
I
I
just
you
know,
worry
if
a
worst
case
scenario,
if
that
if
the
chairs
are
up
there
for
two
weeks
because
there's
you
know
an
event
here
and
then
two
weeks
from
now
there's
another
event
and
it
just
saves
money
to
leave
the
chairs
there.
In
the
meantime,
our
residents
can't
access
that
shaded
part
of
the
park.
I
mean
and
I
trust.
O
Know
my
one
of
my
concerns
is
that
every
time
you
move
those
chairs
there's
going
to
be
wear
on
the
chair.
Yeah
you've
got
to
stack
them
up,
roll
them
up,
and
yes,
so
it's
just
Cost.
It's
also
long-term
the
impact
on
that
which
the
city
purchased,
the
chairs
and
it's
quite
expensive
to
replace
them.
B
That's
that's
a
challenge
for
us
and
it
has
to
do
with
our
Charter
and
I
asked
this.
You
know
when
I
first
got
elected
well,
can
we
build
a
little
something
a
little
perform?
You
know
a
little
stage
over
on
the
park
side
of
it
and
we
can't-
and
so
this
is
what
we
have
to
work
with,
and
we've
got
to
really
make
sure
for
me.
I
need
to
make
sure
that
residents
feel
that
that's
their
venue
and
that
at
least
the
Shaded
part
I'm.
B
B
K
To
my
concerns
and
others
I'm
very
happy
with
the
changes
I
also
acknowledge
that
any
remaining
questions
I
have
I
am
very
comfortable
that
will
be
addressed
in
the
next
few
months
or
years,
because
I
do
understand
that
this
is
a
thing
that's
not
been
built,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
unknowns,
especially
being
a
new,
a
new
venue.
A
new
Venture
and
I
am
very
confident
based
on
the
history
between
Clearwater
and
with
Ecker
Hall,
including
Capital,
Theater,
that
our
partnership
is
ever
evolving
and
we
respond
to
each
other's
needs.
K
K
Of
course,
the
economic
impact
of
our
city
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
are
not
tangible
but
nonetheless,
just
as
important
and
so
I
just
want
to
point
that
out.
But
again,
thank
you
all
for
responding
to
our
concerns
and
my
comfort
level
has
certainly
risen
and
I'm
very
comfortable
with
what
we
have
now
councilman.
A
G
Thank
you
for
filling
in
a
lot
of
blanks
this
week.
I
just
look
forward
to
getting
this
thing
up
and
running.
J
Albritton
I'll
give
you
Kudos
too
I've
been
looking
forward
to
this
for
five
years
and
I'm
so
glad
that
Ruth
Eckert
is
partnering
with
the
city
on
this
and
because
I
was
in
the
beginning.
I
was
like
there's
no
way
we're
gonna
know
how
to
do
this
kind
of
stuff.
I
didn't
agree
with
a
lot
of
things.
Webb
brought
up,
but
I
know
that
he
did
tell
us
that
one
of
the
things
well,
he
was
shooting
for
2500
seats
and
we
overruled
that
I.
J
Think
I'm
really
thankful
that
we're
at
the
4
000
covered
seats,
because
I
think
it
really
makes
a
difference
in
the
size
of
the
venues
and
especially
for
Ruth
Eckert.
You
got
you
know
in
inside
venue
and
then
you
got
the
Capitol
Theater
and
you
got
this
beautiful
outside
venue,
you're
gonna,
there's
gonna
be
so
many
things
that
are
happening.
J
You
know,
I
kind
of
look
back
on
I
was
involved
with
the
city
boat,
docks
at
the
bottom
of
the
hill
right
off
of
the
you
know
the
Park
and
in
the
beginning
it
was
such
kind.
We
had
such
arguments
with
people
like.
Oh,
it's
never
going
to
be
a
failure.
You're
gonna
put
500
Grand
into
this
nobody's
ever
going
to
want
to
knock
their
boat
there
and
you
know
when
they
started
building
it.
J
We
had
two
years
list
of
people
waiting
to
get
in
so
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
home
run,
I'm
glad
we're
the
size
we
are,
and
you
know
what
it's
simple
math
to
me:
I
mean
one
of
the
things
Webb
said
was
1.6
million.
You
know
every
year
if
the
city
ran
it
and
you're
telling
us
we're
going
to
actually
make
a
profit
on
this.
So
that's
kind
of
simple
arithmetic.
J
For
me,
the
questions
I
have
are
and
I've
asked
this
before
and
it
may
have
been
answered,
but
those
four
thousand
seats
where
are
they
stored?
Are
they
back
to
the
stage.
J
Yeah,
correct,
okay,
that
was
my
that
was
my
concern,
because
I
know
they're
going
to
be
going
in
and
out
and
and
I'm
glad
that
we're
coordinating
the
stage
off
because
you
know
I,
don't
want
kids
twirling
up
on
the
stage
I
mean
we
have
a
smaller
stage
there
now
and
I
always
worry
about
the
kids
just
falling
off
and
hitting
their
head
or
something
you
know
so
and
also
I
mean
to
your.
J
You
know
what
you
had
said
about
having
a
a
stage
in
the
Big
Green
area,
and
then
we
couldn't
build
one
well.
The
city
has
two
or
three
portable
stages,
we'll
just
bring
that
thing
up.
If
we
want
to
do
a
some
kind
of
smaller
venue,
you
know
we
have
the
opportunity
to
do
that.
So.
A
J
A
Can
always
go
back
to
referendum
too?
What's
success
breeds
success,
yeah
so
I
think.
Once
people
see
the
success
in
the
park
with
the
amphitheater
and
everything
else,
the
seats
are
they
four
packs
or
five.
A
About
expectations,
I
mean
I
know
we
have
the
naming
rights
at
350
in
Year
One.
We
still
have
to
find
somebody
for
those
naming
rights.
A
A
We
also
promised
that
there
would.
You
know
it
would
not
be
overwhelming,
and
you
know
when
you
go
back
to
profitability
versus
serving
the
community
and
just
having
It
Wide
Open.
Those
are
all
competing
interests,
and
you
know
it
will
be
an
issue
down
the
road
where
you
know
there
will
be
more
profitable,
shows
generally
means
the
tickets
are
more
expensive.
A
A
But
I
do
want
to
thank
all
of
the
staff.
I
know
this
has
been
a
long
process
and
there's
a
lot
of
moving
Parts,
but
I
think
the
agreement
is
reasonable
reasonable
for
both.
So
we
want
to
win
when
that
ultimately
will
result
the
best
outcomes,
so
vice
mayor
yeah.
B
I
just
had
a
couple
little
other
things
in
looking
at
when
Mr
Delp
put
up
the
perimeter
of
the
fencing.
B
Q
B
Because
part
of
our
discussion
like
a
year
and
a
half
or
two
years
ago
was
when
we
looked
at
the
fencing,
was
at
the
forefoot
height.
You
know
people
could
conceivably
pop
right
over
and
get
into
the
concert,
and
so
it
would
be
some
kind
of
an
extension
that
was
added
during
a
venue
event:
a
paid
venue
event,
I
guess
so
that
was
but
but
more
importantly,
I
think.
The
question
that
I
have
now
is
outside
of
that
perimeter
of
the
fencing
people
who
are
there
during
a
concert
event
are
not
being
charged.
B
Is
that
correct?
Okay,
just
wanted
to
I
mean
that's
unfortunate.
A
little
bit,
I
mean
not
for
the
people
sitting
there,
but
okay
and
then
I
just
wanted
a
discussion
about
the
distinction
and
our
expectations
of
City
events
versus
community
events,
and
you
know
what,
when
those
dates
are
chosen
who's
going
to
choose
them.
What
do
we?
You
know?
What
are
we
envisioning
for
City
events
that
will
and
will
those
City
events
necessarily
just
be
free?
No
tickets,
it's
just
kind
of
first
come
first
serve
or
what
do
you?
N
Yes,
those
city-wide
versus
community
events.
Again,
that's
going
to
be
at
the
discretion
of
the
council
when
we
bring
forward
events
and
items
to
you
guys
that
you
can
decide
how
we
want
to
go
forward
with
or
whether
you
want
a
nominal
charge
or
you
want
a
free
event
and
again.
That'll
relate
to
the
level
of
entertainment
and
the
level
of
the
act
that
we
have
there.
So
again,
that's
when
we
bring
that
forward
to
you
that'll
be
a
decision
that
will
be
made
by
the
council
similar
to
the
annual
list.
N
O
B
So
I'm
thinking
you
know,
nobody's
asked
me
yet,
but
City
events
would
be.
You
know
Fourth
of
July
right.
Maybe
we
have
a
New
Year's
Eve,
something
there
I
don't
know.
If
we
have
an
anniversary
of
the,
when
the
city
became
incorporated
as
a
city,
would
we
do
Juneteenth?
Would
we
do
MLK
down
there?
I
know
that
you
know
our
NAACP
that
generally
organizes
our
MLK
breakfast
is
may
not
be
in
existence
in
January,
they're
struggling
to
get
a
board
and-
and
we
support
a
lot
of
funding
for
that
event.
B
Right
now,
don't
we
correct
yes,
and
so
what
if
they
want?
What
if
we
decide,
we
want
to
organize
in
conjunction
with
our
community
members,
an
MLK
event
at
the
venue
that
would
be
a
City
Event?
Yes
right,
okay,
so
Fourth
of
July.
Although
what
other
kinds
of
things
would
you
see
as
City
events.
N
Well,
there
could
be
anything
from
like
our
sea
Blues
Festival
to
Hispanic
heritage,
but
that's
again
we're
going
to
work
with
our
partner
because
they
have
the
bandwidth
to
do
some
of
those
larger
events
that
we
don't
have
you
know,
so
that
would
be
working
in
partnership
with
Ruth
Ecker
Hall.
To
do
those
type
of
events,
we're
more.
You
know
more
of
the
small
scale.
Events
will
be
kind
of
the
things
that
are
in
our
wheelhouse,
but
those
larger
ones
that
require
the
infrastructure
and
the
staff
that
our
partner
has.
That
should
that's.
B
R
Mayor
council,
Christopher,
Parks
and
Recreation
just
yeah
clarifying
that
what
that
is
is
so
typically
between
April
and
last
year.
It
was
a
little
bit
later
and
I
think
May
or
June,
when
we
would
bring
that
that
item
for
the
post-sponsorship.
B
R
Historically,
we've
had
people
that
have
come
to
us
like
like
to
look
up
Clearwater
event,
which
was
a
upper
Pinellas
Ministries
religious
concerts,
so
that
would
be
something
where
they
would
engage
with
Decker
Hall
on
availability
cost
pricing,
those
kinds
of
things.
So
that's
that's
one
example:
sea
Blues
originally.
O
By
the
agreement,
the
difference
in
the
agreement
is
that
a
city
event
is
comes
in
and
it's
rent
free
everything
is
out
of
pocket
cost,
whereas
community
events,
if
it's
not
designated
support
of
one
of
the
City
events,
then
it
becomes
either
a
partnership
with
us,
or
we
would
work
with
them
too,
on
the
cost
of
it
so
and
I
think
we're
already.
In
speaking
with
Jazz
holiday
and
I
know,
we
we
have
a
interest
in
working
with
the
Hispanic
heritage
festival
as
well,
because
it
aligns
with
some
of
our
objectives
in
our
Outreach.
O
So
you
know
it's
probably
going
to
be
a
combination
of
where
it
lands,
whether
it's
City
or
it's
just
a
community
event
that
we're
partnering
with.
B
And
that's:
okay,
except
that
if
I'm,
that
community
group
look
up
or
or
the
Hispanic
Outreach
Center,
whoever
is
going
to
be
there's
a
cost.
If
they're,
not
a
City,
Event,
there's
a
cost
and
there's
not
the
city
there
advocating
for
I
mean
other
than
maybe
we'd
like
this.
We
want
it,
but
it's
you
and
the
Hispanic
Outreach
Center
that
are
deciding
on
the
cost
and
agreeing
to
that
right.
Yeah.
N
Yeah,
that's
that'll,
be
correct,
I'm,
sorry,
Susan
again,
you
know
I
think
we're
gonna.
We
need
to
look
at
our
model
going
forward
because
the
co-sponsored
agreements
there
were
in-kind
services
that
we
provided.
There
was
also
cash
that
we
provided
to
a
lot
of
these
groups
now,
on
the
other
hand,
you're
building
an
Amphitheater.
N
That's
you
know
in
the
20
million
dollar
range
and
you're,
giving
someone
you
know
if
they
give
free
use
of
that
or
that
has
to
play
in
also
so
again,
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
our
math
on
how
we're
we're
doing
that
and
that's
why
we're
going
to
bring
those
those
items
forward,
because
you
know,
unfortunately,
everyone
you
know
they
they
want
to
get
the
the
best
rate
that
they
can.
We
don't
blame
them
for
that,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
the
city
has
made
a
substantial
investment
in
the
park.
N
So
you
know
there's
going
to
have
to
be
some
type
of
math
that
we
come
up
and
we
we
present
to
the
council
and
the
council's
agreeable
to
that.
You
know
delineates
these
different
types
of
events,
because,
if
not,
then
we're
going
to
get
caught
in
the
same
cycle
that
we're
in
now,
but
we
have
a
you
know
a
venue,
that's
quite
substantial,
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
a
value
that
we're
providing
to
people
and
they
need
to
understand
that
as
well.
Council
member
Albright.
J
So
I
see
a
lot
of
events
also
taking
place
on
the
Green.
You
know
we
used
to
have
races
and
5K
10ks
and
they'd
come
in,
have
a
blueberry
breakfast
or
something
pancakes,
and
that
can
happen
in
the
green
very
easily.
With
you
know,
a
portable
stage
there
we
wouldn't
even
have
to
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
things.
We
can
do
in
that
Park.
N
The
roof,
no
you're,
absolutely
correct
and
that's
how
we
envision
activating
a
large
part
of
the
park
is
to
be
able
to
have
those
different
type
of
events
in
there.
You
know
whether
they're
those
type
of
events
that
are
free
to
the
public,
where
they
come
in
and
they're
the
amount
of
infrastructure
that's
needed
to
put
on
an
event
in
the
park
in
general
versus
the
venue.
Is
it's
a
huge
difference
so
that
will
you
know
a
lot
of
those
groups
to
to
be
in
there
and
again?
N
You
know
everyone
may
want
to
be
on
the
stage,
but
is
there
really
a
nest?
You
know
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
the
volume
on
things
as
well.
Is
it
going
to
be?
Does
it
make
sense
to
ramp
up
this?
You
know
the
operational
stage
and
engage
with
our
partner
where
we
can
have
something
like
you
said
where
we
bring
the
show
Master
out
utilize,
the
green
and
that
area
as
well.
E
L
From
Mara
on
Monday
at
the
work
session,
I
announced
that
we
were
in
the
closing
documents
with
a
peace
Memorial
mayor.
Thank
you
for
your
time
on
Tuesday.
So
we
can
get
that
closed,
I'm
pleased
to
announce
that
we
are
successfully
closed.
The
CRA
now
has
the
deed
to
peace,
Memorial
and
design
garages
underway.
I
do
want
the
council
and
and
staff
to
keep
in
mind
that
we
have
made
some
commitments
to
peace
Memorial's
congregation,
particularly
during
the
construction
process
of
the
garage
specifically
while
the
garage
is
under
construction
and
we're
utilizing
their
site.
L
We
have
committed,
and
the
council
has
accrued
a
commitment
that
we
will
accommodate
their
Sunday
worship
services
in
terms
of
parking.
They
need
about
120
spaces
on
Sunday,
for
a
Conger
against
the
purchase
and
sale
agreement
gives
us
the
city
the
flexibility,
to
decide
exactly
where
the
parking
will
be,
because
it's
hard
to
know
at
that
point
whether
we
should
put
them
at
the
Old
City
Hall
site,
whether
that
might
coincide
with
the
Bluffs
development,
whether
it
Sense
on
the
CMA
site,
whether
the
North
Garden
Avenue
garage
Etc,
but
the
city's
flexibility
has
been
preserved.
L
But
I
do
want
to
remind
everyone
that
it
will
be
our
responsibility
during
the
construction
process
just
to
accommodate
them
on
Sundays
and
we're
very
excited
for
this
process
and
looking
forward
to
seeing
how
that
goes.
A
Anything
else
Mr
Doug,
yes,
sir.
We
had
talked
about
the
inquiries
for
Mr
Margolis
at
our
previous
meeting
when
we
went
through
a
salary
and
we
made
it
immediate.
But
in
retrospect
retroactive
to
the
beginning
of
the
fiscal
year.
A
A
A
It
takes
three
council
members
over
two
meetings
or
four
council
members
over
one
I
think
there
are
some
good
things
that
Mr
Jennings
has
done
and
I
appreciate
it.
He
came
in
under
very
difficult
circumstances,
following
frankly,
a
legend
Mr
horn.
We
were
all
reeling
from
that
loss
and
he's
done
some
reorg
and
did
a
great
job
this
past
weekend
of
recognizing
employees
out
of
the
aquarium
and
that
got
rave
reviews
and
other
good
things.
A
But
I
still
have
come
to
the
conclusion
that
I
think
we
need
a
change
and
so
I
understand
that
he
decided
not
to
come
tonight
going
to
be
just
be
discussed.
Salary
I
do
not
know
where
any
of
you
are,
because
we
cannot
talk
of
this
except
on
this
dice
and
it
has
been
difficult.
A
Reasons
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
all
of
them,
but
you
know
I
keep
a
record
of
things
that
I
am
concerned
about.
A
We've
talked
about
those,
we
talked
about
them
during
his
review
and
he
did
not
agree
with
them.
A
lot
of
them
even
have
documented
things
and
that's
fine.
We
could
agree
to
disagree.
A
It
was
somewhat
bothersome
to
me
that
it
was
more
or
less
just
I.
Don't
agree
with
you
rather
than
reflecting
on
some
of
those
specifics.
So
I
wish
Mr
Jennings
well,
I.
Don't
really
want
to
sit
here
and
go
through
the
laundry
list
of
reasons
I.
K
K
We
can't
continue
to
run
this
city
with
this
lack
of
confidence
in
our
city
manager,
because
it's
it's
the
way.
The
form
of
government
is
it's
an
important
position
and
if
we
don't
have
confidence
in
the
person
holding
that
position,
I
don't
think
we
can
move
forward
and
I
hate
the
timing
right
before
Christmas
I
really
do.
However,
I
was
elected
to
represent
the
city
and
do
what
I
thought
or
think
is
best
for
this
city,
not
for
a
specific
person.
K
G
Well,
I,
if
you
recall,
when
we
were
hiring
them,
I
was
the
one
who
was
opposed
to
Mr
Jennings
and
I.
Asked
you
folks,
okay,
if
all
four
of
you
want
him
I
will
make
it
unanimous
and
I
said
I.
Would
you
know
give
him
my
full
support?
G
I
feel
like
I
have
done
that
and
I've
been
happy
with
a
lot
of
changes
that
have
happened.
There
were
projects
that
that
I
was
working
on
with
John
that
that
I'm
afraid
will
not
go
forward
now
so
I
will
I
will
certainly
be
upset.
If
that's
the
case,
it
seems
one
year
having
him
uproot
and
come
down
here.
There
isn't
really
enough
time,
but
I
I
would
I
would
say
that
I'm
happy
with
him
continuing
to
see.
If
we
can
write
that
ship.
G
B
Sure
I
would
have,
to
you
know,
say:
I
share
your
concerns,
mayor
Hibbert,
as
well
as
council,
member
tesheda
and
I
have
been
thinking
about
this
too.
Ever
since
we
did
his
evaluation
and
I
think
we
all
voiced
some
similar
concerns
at
the
time
we
did.
B
The
evaluation,
which
was,
is
it
six
weeks
ago
and
and
I
think
I
haven't
seen
a
real
change
or
difference
in
those
six
weeks
and
I
think
with
the
activities
this
week
in
the
discussions
about
this
major
Ruth,
Eckerd
Hall
Contract,
just
kind
of
brought
it
to
the
Forefront
that
that
this
is
not
best
practice.
B
This
is
not
fair
to
us
and
I
certainly
don't
believe
it's
fair
to
our
public
to
be
fully
transparent
and
welcome
their
engagement
and
comments,
because
we
don't
have
information,
full
information
in
a
timely
manner
and
and
yeah
it's
it's.
For
that
reason,
I
and
I
too,
have
a
number
of
data
points
that
I've
communicated
along
the
way,
and
we
don't
need
to
rehash
them
here,
but
I
I
think
it's
it's
really
a
communication
style
and
making
us
helping
us
be
the
best
elected
officials
to
make
the
best
decisions
that
are
really
crucial.
B
You
know
I,
ask
a
lot
of
questions,
but
I
don't
need
to
dig
down
in
the
leads
and
everything
but
I
think
when,
when
a
city
manager
or
leader
is
negotiating
contracts
or
land
swaps
or
big
projects
like
the
Air
Park
like
Ruth
Eckerd
Hall,
like
you
know,
PSTA
and
affordable
housing
things,
they
need
to
get
gauge
gauge
a
a
temperature
with
us
on
what
we
want
and
what
I
found
sort
of
you
know
what
I'd
like
to
see
as
we
move
along
with
whomever
is
leading
us,
is
that
if,
on
those
one-on-ones
you're
not
getting
a
consensus
or
we
seem
to
be
very
diverse-
that's
okay
bring
us
together
in
a
work
session,
so
we
can
actually
compromise
and
shape,
and
that's
what
I
find
frustrating
is
because,
when
things
are
brought
to
us,
they've
already
been
like.
B
B
So
it's
it's
just
that
so
I
I
communicated
that
and
then
when,
when
Ruth
Eckerd
Hall
came
up,
it
just
kind
of
was
like
wow.
You
know
I
and
I
know
we're
far
along,
but
even
a
phone
call
six
weeks
ago,
like
hey.
This
is
where
we're
at
we're
finalizing
some
things
rather
than
an
email
at
8
49
last
night
you
know
so
I
I
I
was
prepared
to
kind
of
yeah,
I'm
I,
think
I
think
the
city
would
be
better
served.
I
think
we
need
a
different
fit
for
for
us
all.
J
That's
kind
of
a
shock
here
I,
you
know
I,
think
I
said
my.
What
I
wanted
to
say
during
his
evaluation
I
was
disappointed.
I
was
really
disappointed
in
the
communication
style
during
the
Intermodal
Center
thing
we
went
through,
but
here's
why
I
liked
John?
He
was
a.
He
came
from
an
entrepreneurial
position,
not
a
and
I'm,
not
disrespecting,
Bill
Horn,
but
Bill
Horn
ran
the
city
like
an
army
base.
I
mean
that's
the
way.
He
because
that's
what
he
knew
and
I
was
disappointed
with
Bill
a
lot
of
times.
J
J
I
just
didn't
think
things
I,
don't
didn't
think
the
city
had
his
full
attention
toward
the
end,
as
he
was
thinking
about
retiring
and
John.
Having
a
perspective
from
an
entrepreneurial
position,
I
thought
brought
a
better
perspective
on
I,
mean
I.
Think
we
needed
a
new
somebody
with
a
different
Vision
that
came
in
and
could
see
things,
and
he
was
good
at
really
looking
at
it
it
differently
at
land
and
how
we
could
develop
it,
and
you
know
even
the
whole
thing
with
the
Intermodal
Center.
J
He
was
constantly
picking
sites,
for
maybe
we
could
move
things
around
here
in
there,
but
it
I
guess
he
didn't
realize
that
you
know
the
20
million
was
associated
with
the
one
property
and
we
really
I
mean
when
we
did
get
that
Grant
we
couldn't
move.
I
mean
that
was
it.
I
listened
to
a
lot
of
his
ideas
and
there
were
a
lot
of
them.
J
As
you
said
mayor
that
you
know
he
actually
saw
that
we
were
on
the
surface
that
looked
like
a
everything
ran
great,
but
we
had
a
lot
of
problems
with
different
departments
and
he
reorganized
he
got
rid
of
a
lot
of
problem
people,
and
you
know
he
came
up
with
the
Department
of
innovation.
I
thought
he
listened
to
a
lot
of
things.
J
We
said
especially
neighborhoods
and
developed
ways
that
we
could
better
communicate
and
I
appreciated
that
you
know
he
came
down
with
covet
early
on
last
year
and
it
wasn't
I
mean
I
had
coveted
and
I
got
over
like
two
days.
This
thing
dragged
on
with
him,
I
mean
I
know
he
had
covered
fog
for
probably
eight
eight
or
nine
months.
J
I
didn't
see
a
real
him
coming
out
of
it
until
after
the
summer,
as
we
went
into
September
or
October,
and
that
had
a
lot
to
do
with
I
think
his
position
of
going
out
in
the
community
because
he
was
always
weak
and
sick,
and
then
he
had
the
Achilles
problem,
but
I
tell
you
I,
I,
really,
as
I
said,
and
as
a
valuation
I
really
look
forward
to
him
really
doing
better
this
coming
year.
I
think
he's
got
a
lot
of
things
under
the
his
belt
now
and
I.
J
Think
he
I
was
I,
would
really
give
him
credit
for
coming
out
and
being
a
different
person
this
year,
so
I'm
not
ready
to
fire
him
and
I'm,
certainly
not
ready
to
fire
him
a
week
before
Christmas
I
I
can't
do
that.
That's
to
me
is
that's
that's
a
terrible
thing
to
do.
I
mean
if
he
really
had
this
opinion
of
him.
Why
didn't
we
do
it?
Two
months
ago,
when
we
were
talking
about
you
know
both
evaluations.
J
L
Then
sure
well,
the
city
Charter
provides
assist,
no
checks
and
balances.
You
know
we
all
know
that
both
the
city
manager
and
myself
are
accountable
to
council
and
sort
of
at
the
pleasure
of
council.
Just
like
you
do
at
the
pleasure
of
Voters
when
it
comes
to
removal
of
a
city
manager
or
replacement
of
a
city
manager.
There
are
two
Avenues
available
to
the
council.
Avenue
number
one
as
a
single
meeting.
Avenue
number
two
is
a
dual
meeting
system.
L
The
single
meeting
system
says
that
if
there
are
at
least
four
affirmative
votes
to
remove
that
can
be
made
effective
immediately
or
upon
any
future
date,
Council
so
chooses
so
there
would
have
to
be
four
or
five
affirmative
votes
this
evening
in
order
to
make
that
effective
immediately.
On
the
other
hand,
if
there
are
three
affirmative
votes
and
two
negative
votes,
then
most
like
an
ordinance,
it
would
come
back
for
a
second
reading.
L
If,
on
the
second
reading,
there
are
still
three
affirmative
votes
or
more
than
that,
then
it
would
house
on
second
reading
and
the
termination
would
not
be
effective
until
the
second
reading.
The
charter
is
designed
to
create
a
level
of
stability
so
that
on
one
hand,
if
it
is
a
3-2
system,
it
gives
both
the
three
people,
as
well
as
the
two
people
time
to
reflect
on
their
perspective
and
see
if
it's
going
to
come
out
the
same
way
on
a
second
reading.
L
On
the
other
hand,
if
there
is
Broad
support
with
at
least
four
council
members,
then
it
is
intended
to
be
something
that
the
council
can
carry
out
immediately,
so
that
the
council
has
accountability
and
doesn't
have
to
drag
it
out
or
wait.
So
those
are
the
two
options
available
under
the
city,
Charter.
A
All
in
favor
aye
opposed
no
okay,
so
three
two
I
will
certainly
work
with
Mr
Jennings
over
the
next
month.
When
is
the
next
meeting
the
12th.
L
The
12th
is
the
next
meeting
of
the
yeah.
The
the
charter
requires
that
the
second
reading
on
this
action
be
held
at
least
two
weeks
after,
and
so
the
council
has
the
option
to
either
schedule
this
second
reading
for
the
next
normal
council
meeting
or
in
the
alternative
that
Council
would
prefer.
You
could
schedule
a
special
meeting,
but
it
must
be
at
least
two
weeks
from
today.
If
you
were
to
schedule
a
special
meeting.
L
Yeah,
you
at
least
need
a
quorum
to
be
physically
present,
and
then
it
would
have
to
be
whoever's
present,
at
least
three
affirmative
votes
in
order
to
pass
that
action.
A
E
E
J
You
know
I
wish
everybody
a
Merry
Christmas
and
be
safe
over
the
holidays
and
I.
Guess
we'll
see
you
back
here
afterwards.
B
B
But
you
know,
life
goes
on.
People
change
is
okay
and
people
can
adapt
and
will
adapt
and
I
have
every
confidence
that
Mr
Jennings.
Will
you
know
we'll
find
another
job?
That's
a
better
fit.
He
is
a
good
person.
He's
done
a
lot
for
the
city
and
and
he'll
he'll.
Make
a
difference,
continue
to
make
positive
differences,
I
believe,
but
I
was
also
going
to
say
how
super
proud
I
am
of
Clearwater
and
all
of
the
activities
that
are
offered
during
the
holiday
season.
B
There
is
literally
something
every
single
night
for
families
for
individuals,
there's
music
and
movies
and
parades
on
celebrations,
and
it's
just
such
a
a
great
City
to
be
a
part
of
and
and
for
our
families.
All
these
events
are
free
and
it's
it's
it's
a
great
time
to
be
in
Clearwater,
so
happy
holidays
to
everyone.