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A
A
There
is
a
comment
that
I'd
like
to
make,
so
it's
pertaining
to
three
point:
two:
when
the
board
approved
the
letter
from
from,
are
we
approved
a
letter
to
be
sent
to
the
City
Council
for
a
proposed
funding
for
spectrum
and
carpenter
fields?
My
comment
is
this:
I
know
it's
been
approved,
but
in
hindsight,
I
would
like
the
record
to
show
that
I
would
have
voted.
G
I
G
I
B
B
I
G
I
G
G
G
G
J
Not
saying
you
are
I
just
wanted,
because
the
video
this
this
meeting
was
not
videotaped
in
November
for
some
reason
or
other.
So
two
things
occurred
in
November
when
it
wasn't
that
videotape
one.
You
took
a
vote
not
to
change
the
name
to
go
comments,
and
then
you
also
discuss
the
money
for
spectrum
field
and
we
missed
that
discussion,
which
is
unfortunate,
so
I
just
didn't
want
to
get
that
on
the
record
and
also
you
were
going
to
discuss
science
today,
I
called
Jennifer
about,
because
I
wanted
to
ask.
J
If
you
were
going
to
take
the
book
tonight
because
I
didn't
know,
you
took
it
in
November,
because
the
agenda
only
says
you're
gonna
discuss
the
magic,
clew
water
doesn't
say
anything
about
taking
the
vote.
I'm
changing
the
name,
so
I
called
Jennifer,
but
Jennifer
didn't
want
to
talk
to
me,
understandably,
because
she
thought
she
might
be
violating
the
sunshine
law,
but
actually
she's,
not
violating
the
sunshine
law,
because
you
are
allowed
to
talk
to
anyone
other
than
the
members
on
the
board
and
the
way
I
understand
the
sunshine
law.
J
I'm
not
allowed,
then,
to
turn
around
and
tell
what
you
tell
me
to
turn
around
and
tell
all
their
members
of
the
board.
I
can't
be
the
conduit.
That's
the
way,
I
understand
the
sunshine
and
lava.
Maybe
you
can
get
into
that
I
know.
You
said
you
might
want
to
bring
that
up
today
at
this
meeting.
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
your
service.
D
K
A
G
L
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
be
here
tonight,
it's
my
first
time
before
the
parks
board.
So
let
me
say
first
of
all,
I
think
you
know
it's
I
will
admit
so
we're
probably
a
few
years
late,
bringing
this
project
to
the
parks
board.
So
after
our
December
meeting
and
we
had
your
discussion
of
the
coachmen
Park
renaming
the
park,
you
know
I
realized
at
that
point
and
I
had
a
conflict.
L
L
The
waterfront
I
think
you
know
for
a
long
time.
I
think
you
know
a
lot
of
people
would
agree
that
we
have
a
economically
a
very
underutilized
waterfront
having
beautiful,
waterfront
property
and
a
bluff
like
we
do
and
then
have
it
covered
in
large
part
by
acres
and
acres
of
public.
You
know
parking
lots
is
really
a
pretty
pretty
sad
use
of
beautiful
waterfront
park
lands.
So
I
think
you
know
how
you
balance.
All
these
things
is
is
a
challenge
in
and
of
itself.
L
L
We
followed
that
up
with
two
or
three
major
planning
efforts
that
came
out
of
the
Uli
work.
One
was
the
North,
marina
master
plan,
north
marina,
basically
the
first
phase,
and
that
is
now
complete
other
than
we
have
to
build
some
restaurant
sillies
up
there,
but
other
than
that.
That
first
phase
is
pretty
much
done.
We
have
a
study
on
how
to
make
the
city
of
Clearwater
a
more.
L
Clearwater
work
that
finished
up
in
February
21st
of
2017,
and
so
we've
been
working
on
that
work
for
the
last
couple
of
years,
really
implementing
it,
and
so
I
moved
over
to
the
city
manager's
office
in
April
May
of
last
year
and
really
tried
to
move
the
imagine
Clearwater
project
along
the
signature
of
which
is,
of
course
coachman
Park
and
the
redevelopment
of
the
waterfront.
So
we
went
through
that
process.
Extensive
process
for
well
over
a
year
have
large
stakeholder
groups
that
were
involved
in
that
kind
of
be
a
sounding
board.
L
L
L
There
are
things
that
anybody
would
have
done
different,
but
if
your
expectation
is
that
you
find
something
with
everybody's
agrees
on,
then
you
know
that's
simply
never
ever
going
to
happen.
So
it's
true
with
the
park,
it's
true
with
the
name,
it's
true
with
virtually
anything
so,
but
we
had
a
good
sense
of
consensus
with
that
and
City
Council
adopted
it
and
so
the
or
accepted
it,
and
so
we've
been
the
last
couple
of
years
now
working
on
the
all
construction
and
implementation,
which
is
where
we
are
now.
L
We
will
have
construction
documents
in
the
next
two
or
three
months
and
we'll
be
ready
to
to
start
building
things.
So
this
is
going
to
be
a
big
year
for
us.
We
will
be
building
the
park
and
you
know
what
I
would
like
to
do
now
is
to
kind
of
walk
through
with
you,
the
kind
of
the
gist
of
the
park
plan.
L
What
we're
trying
to
get
out
of
the
coachmen
Park
the
waterfront
and
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
what
the
the
components
of
the
park
are
and
then
I'll
I'll
kind
of
close
that
loop
by
you
know
just
kind
of
giving
you
a
philosophical
reason
why
we
suggested
the
City
Council.
Let
us
come
to
you
and
have
a
public
discussion
about
kind
of
renaming
the
park.
So
let
me
let
me
just
start
by
going
through
this.
What's
before
you
now
is
the
the
general
park
plan.
We.
L
If
you
can,
if
you're
looking
at
the
park
to
the
north
along
there
you'll
see,
that's
grew
street
immediately
to
the
south
of
bru
is
an
area
of
the
park.
We
call
the
garden,
that's
really
more.
Of
an
active
family,
kids
oriented
there
will
be
water,
fountains,
playground
area
there,
some
slides
along
the
kind
of
along
the
bluff,
the
building
there
at
the
corner,
which
would
be
to
the
lower
end
of
the
the
corner
area
there
in
the
park.
L
That's
the
block,
walk
that
extends
all
the
way
from
north
drew
south
towards
the
Pierce
Street
area
down
there,
whether
the
city
owns
the
see
of
a
property
Cleveland,
which
is
kind
of
the
middle
of
year,
growing
just
to
the
right
of
the
coachman
Park
redevelopment
of
the
label.
They're
on
the
map,
Cleveland
would
dead
end
in
the
park.
That's
a
turnaround
area
there
behind
the
green,
the
center
part
of
the
park,
which
is
the
green.
L
That's
the
area
where
the
venue
is
going
to
be
in
April
of
this
year,
City
Council
decided
that
they
would
include
4,000
seat
covered
amphitheater
and
a
large
back
of
house
operations
for
that
facility
to
the
south.
Of
that,
you
can
see
a
portion
of
a
small
lake
area
there,
that's
more
of
a
serene
kind
of
bucolic
setting
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
when
we're
here
in
a
couple
of
moments
generally,
what
is
has
been
brought
to
us
originally
by
the
the
architect,
for
this
was
Sasaki
architects.
L
Their
worldwide
architectural
firm
party
planning,
firm
they've
done
work
all
around
the
the
planet.
We
we
hired
them
and
HR
na
advisors,
who
are
primarily
economic
analysis,
folks
out
in
New
York
Sasaki
area,
H
rnase
out
in
New,
York
Sasaki,
it's
out
of
Boston,
and
we
wanted
to
have
a
park
that
has
multiple
things.
For
you
know,
different
persons
differ,
you
know
you
can
come
down
there
and
no
matter
what
you're
looking
for
the
park
offers
one
component
or
another
of
something
that
could
provide
interest
and
an
activity
of
differing
levels
in
the
park.
L
Our
vision
established
in
the
2017
master
plan,
the
downtown
Carolina
waterfront,
will
be
an
active,
authentic,
iconic,
civic
and
open
space
that
celebrates
Clearwater's
history,
natural
beauty,
culture
and
diversity,
and
acres
and
economically
vibrant,
downtown
I.
Think
you
know
this
point.
I
want
to
say
that
one
of
our
primary
objectives
is
really
to
get
the
community
reinvested
in
coachmen
Park
and
our
waterfront
and
downtown
I
think
consistent
with
a
lot
of
cities
across
the
country.
Over
the
last
several
decades,
we've
seen
the
decline
in
some
of
our
downtown
commercial
areas.
L
Clear
water
is
certainly
not
alone
in
that
there
are
a
lot
of
reasons
for
that.
You
know,
then
I
think
we
have
a
unique
set
of
circumstances
here,
but
every
city
has
unique
set
of
circumstances.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
avoid
doing
and
caution
against
doing
is
assuming
that
you
know
that
there
there's
a
fait
accompli
to
lack
the
success,
that
we
have
in
downtown
Clearwater,
I'm,
very
optimistic
about
downtown,
Clearwater
and
I.
L
Think
you
know
if
we
make
good
decisions
and
we
do
things
that
will
invite
our
community
back
into
downtown
Clearwater.
We
can
be
successful
doing
that
if
we
provide
a
good
and
again
at
kind
of
a
great
public
place
that
they
own,
so
that
we
we
want
the
park
to
really
impact
downtown
Clearwater,
even
as
it's
a
valuable
asset
to
us
just
in
and
of
itself.
L
What
do
we
want
to
get
out
of
more
public
spaces?
We
want
them
to
be
inclusive
and
accessible
to
all
members
of
our
community.
We
want
them
to
support
social
infrastructure,
foster
community
connections
in
that
great
public
place,
be
environmentally
sustainable
and
to
help
drive
economic
development.
M
L
The
community,
the
coachmen
Commons
concept,
I,
was
working
with
staff
and
we
were,
we
were
doing
some
research
and
looking
at
things,
ways
to
activate
the
part,
and
we
talked
for
a
while
about
the
fact
that
coachman
Park
is
actually
a
fairly
small
component
of
all
the
city's
20-plus
acres
of
waterfront,
which
is
where
the
old
man
shall
is
today
at
the
small
Park
area
or
lake
area.
That's
up
there
kind
of
facing
to
the
north
and
the
east.
L
H
L
L
L
You
know
kind
of
turn,
our
back
on
the
thing,
the
history
of
the
community
and
what
we've
been
known
for
for
decades
and
decades
in
terms
of
the
coachman
parking,
our
waterfront.
But
on
the
other
hand,
we
wanted
to
try
to
pull
everything
together
in
a
sense
that
can
reflect
the
character
of
our
community
and
the
fact
that
we
have
you
know
this
public
park.
L
N
L
Sits
of
the
use
of
the
word
equating
to
resources
that
available
for
all
members
of
society
and
creates
kind
of
a
shared
language
or
a
shared.
You
know
all
the
community,
all
of
our
society
at
Clearwater,
116
thousand
residents,
are
invested
in
this
waterfront.
This
is
their
waterfront.
This
is
public
space
for
them
it
belongs
to
them
transitions.
L
The
imagine
clear
water
initiative
into
concrete
concept
as
the
city
moves,
from
planning
to
construction
and
hopefully
would
capture
both
physical
assets
like
coachmen,
Park,
the
library,
the
waterfront
activity,
but
also
the
spirit
of
shared
civic
Commons
in
public
space.
That's
available
and
accessible
to
everyone.
L
One
of
our
objectives
in
this
really
and
I
emphasize
this
several
times-
is
to
research
public
ownership
over
coachmen
Park,
it's
very
underutilized.
You
know
we
have
acres
and
acres
of
parking
and
very
little
activity.
I
think
the
first
time
any
of
our
consultants,
teams
have
come
to
downtown
Clearwater
and
looked
at
our
park.
L
L
This
is
a
you
know,
complete
drawing
here
from
north
to
south
kind
of
showing
you
what
the
entire
park
we're,
probably
tripling
the
size
of
the
green
space
in
the
park.
So
the
you've
got
parking
along
the
north
along
drew
Street
in
the
middle.
You
have
some
parking
along
Cleveland
Street,
and
then
you
have
the
large
parking
facility.
L
That
extends-
and
if
you
look
at
the
shadowing
there,
it's
so
kind
of
hard
to
see,
but
you
can
see
it
extending
underneath
the
memorial
causeway
bridge
at
the
South
parking
is
probably
one
of
the
single
biggest
things
that
come
up
all
the
time
with
the
park.
I
will
say,
you
know
right
up
front
that
our
intent
in
designing
the
park
is
open.
Space
is
not
to
provide
parking
for
large
signature
events
that
can
bring
thousands
of
people.
We
have
to
look
corporately.
L
L
We
provided
what
we
believe
is
the
sufficient
parking
to
park
the
park
on
a
red
routine
daily
basis,
and
we
will
continue
to
look
as
we
move
forward
to
providing
additional
parking
infrastructure
in
downtown
Clearwater
to
to
take
care
of
those
needs
that
we
have
for
large
large
events
in
downtown
Clearwater
and
that
parking
may
be
located
in
within
a
block
or
two
perimeter
of
this
area.
We
want
people
to
walk
through
downtown.
We
want
them
to
experience
downtown,
so
you
know
our
objective
is
not
to
go
into
the
park
and
build.
L
L
L
So
what
we
thought
would
be
a
kind
of
artistic
component
of
the
park
would
be
to
build
on
their
relationship,
our
sister
city
in
Nagano,
and
incorporates
some
some
Japanese
architecture
and
theme
into
this
area,
maybe
even
going
so
far
as
to
ask
Nagano
to
to
help
us
design
things
that
we
can
put
in
there
to
create
that
space
we've
got.
You
know
that
becomes
an
example
of
that.
Some
of
the
water
fountains
and
here
are
some
examples
of
incorporation
of
kind
of
a
fire
component
into
the
park.
L
You
know
a
bridge,
that's
designed,
based
on
a
an
oriental
theme,
a
Japanese
style
theme,
small
areas
of
this.
You
can
kind
of
see
there.
You
can
see
my
pointer,
that's
a
small
event
area,
so
that
would
be
an
area
where
you
can
have
weddings
and
that
sort
of
thing
set
up
there
on
that
lawn
area.
Overlooking
the
lake-
and
this
is
a
area
from
a
landscape
standpoint
can
be
really
you
can.
You
can
do
almost
a
Japanese
garden,
themed
landscape
with
native
Florida
plants?
L
L
Just
love
that
choreographed
experience
of
being
there
I
think
there
are
things
that
we
could
do
to
the
park
with
the
water
and
the
lights
and
the
sound
that
can
be
a
choreographed
experience
of
our
own
Park
and
how
that
might
manifest
itself
is
during
the
holidays.
For
example,
we
may
like
the
park
up
red,
green
and
blue,
and,
have
you
know,
holiday
or
Christmas,
music
playing
throughout
the
park
or
having
caroler
stage
throughout
the
park?
L
You
could
do
that
theme.
You
know
all
year
long
at
different
events
for
different
things.
It
also
lends
itself
well
to
having
management
by
a
kind
of
a
Park
Conservancy.
If
you
will,
the
City
Council
has
asked
us
to
take
a
look
at
a
Conservancy,
so
you
know
that
kind
of
programming
and
theme
is
something
that
could
you
really
have
a
strong
management
role
by
our
community
and
if
we,
if
we
move
forward
that
which
I
think
would
be
a
great
idea,
so
that
kind
of
gives
you
a
flavor.
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L
L
What
you
see
on
the
the
left
side
of
the
screen
here
is
the
Grand
kind
of
Plaza
or
entranceway
this
area
right
here
at
that
intersection.
That's
the
Cleveland
Osceola
intersection.
So
right
there
we're
in
the
Old
Harbor
view
used
to
stand,
is
a
large
public,
plaza
area
that
you'll
you'll
walk
down.
Cleveland
Street
you'll
get
to
the
corner.
You'll,
have
this
large
public
plaza
space
overlooking
the
park
in
the
waterfront
that
area
there
can
be
activated
by
you
know
it
could
be
a
market
on
Saturdays.
It
could
be.
L
You
know,
people
playing
music
out
there
on
the
weekends
part
of
our
concept
is
to
the
north
of
that
intersection.
There-
and
this
is,
you,
know,
100
feet
or
more
here.
This
is
a
good
distance,
but
one
of
our
Park
plans,
part
of
the
imagine
Clearwater,
is
to
activate
this
area
to
the
north,
with
mixed-use
residential
over
retail,
possibly
so
that
this
might
be
some
some
restaurant
space
that
would
overlook
the
plaza
and
the
the
boardwalk
area,
which
is
just
to
the
west
of
it,
so
that
we
would
have
an
active
edge
to
the
park.
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That's
something
that's
very
important
to
successful
public
spaces,
and
if
you
you
know,
you've
been
to
cities
all
around
I'm
sure
you
don't
have
to
walk
very
far.
Do
you
find
great
public
space
and
parks
that
have
active
edges
to
it
eyes
on
the
park?
It
creates
an
activity.
It
creates
a
sense
of
safety
and
and
an
activity-
that's
very
it's
very
attractive
in
its
own
right.
So
that's
an
opportunity
here
for
that,
along
with
water
and
other
artful
design,
features.
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This
I
will
point
out
here
there's
a
little
bridge
area
that
extends
from
the
the
bluff
walk
here.
It's
on
the
north
side
of
Cleveland
from
the
Grand
Plaza,
the
entry
way
plaza
area
to
the
small
pedestrian
bridge
that
connects
the
north
boardwalk,
our
bluff,
walk
to
the
south,
bluff
walk
that
crosses
over
Cleveland
and
then
extends
all
the
way
down
to
to
Pierce
Creek
so
that
you
can
walk
or
jog
or
a
bike.
L
If
you
will,
along
the
entire
top
of
the
bluff
walk
of
the
park,
overlooking
the
park
from
north
to
south
against
more
examples
of
water
features
and
things
that
these
are
kind
of
what
we
envision
for
the
area
of
the
kind
of
the
playground,
the
water
fountain,
the
active
interactive
water
area
feature
which
is
right
here,
some
slides
along
the
bluff
for
kids.
So
this
is
a
very
active
children
and
family
area
here,
some
more
examples
of
lighting
and
design
and
how
we
might
incorporate
those
into
the
park.
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L
So
I
know
that
kind
of
concludes.
My
presentation
here
I
think
the
reason
that
we,
you
know
we
were
looking
at
Elaine
to
kind
of
encompass
and
really
embrace
the
entire
waterfront
of
the
city.
You
know
not
just
the
small
portion
at
the
North
End,
which
has
historically
been
the
countryand
Park,
but
to
embrace
all
of
that
in
a
common
theme
and
one
that
we
can
start
to
really
market
and
brand
as
clear
waters
regional
destination.
For
you
know
our
community
in
terms
of
music
art,
entertainment.
L
You
know
the
whole
waterfront
experience,
something
that
we
can.
We
can
be
that
forth
day
for
the
tourists,
the
visitors
that
come
to
our
beach
that
say,
gee.
You
know
we
wanted.
Let's
just
take
the
ferry
and
ferry
over
to
downtown
Clearwater
and
experience
coachman
park.
You
know,
if
you
can
imagine
that
you
know
maybe
on
weekends.
L
You
have
kind
of
like
the
Bellagio,
maybe
every
hour
hour
and
half
hour
for
10
or
15
minutes,
the
whole
park
comes
alive
with
music
and
lights
and
water
fountains,
and
you
know
people
can
experience
that
from
the
more
and
causeway
bridge.
Looking
at
the
entire
waterfront
or
they
can
choose
to
walk
through
the
pathways
in
the
park
and
down
in
the
park,
maybe
avail
themselves
of
food
trucks
or
things
that
we
might
have
activities
in
the
park
that
are
then
occurring
there
for
the
public
from
either
way.
L
So
it's
you
know
it's
a
different
experience,
no
matter
where
you
are
from
looking
at
it
from
afar
or
if
you're
in
the
park.
You
know
we'd
like
for
it
to
be
the
place.
If
you
know,
if
my
relatives
from
Missouri
come
and
visit,
you
know
I
it's
one
of
those
places
where
I've
got
to
take
you've
got
to
come
down
and
see
coachman
coachman
park,
it's
a
beautiful
waterfront
experience
and
while
we're
down
there,
let's
go
have
dinner.
L
You
know
we
want
it
to
be
that
kind
of
place
that
the
community
looks
to
is
it's
its
ownership
and
its
own
waterfront,
and
so
that's
kind
of
how
we
got
to
the
the
coachman
Commons
thing
is
to
try
to
have
our
whole
community
have
a
sense
that
they
have
the
ownership
of
this
public
space.
So
will
there
ever
be
a
unanimous
unanimity
behind
any
any
one
thing
we
do
hammer
the
answer
to
that
is
no,
but
I
think
you
know
we
were
looking
for
something
as
a
way
to
activate
your
opinion.
L
Obviously
was
very
important
about
that,
but
what
I
did
regret
was
not
being
able
to
be
here
and
kind
of
walk
you
through
this,
whether
you
you
know
like
the
concept
or
not
from
the
naming
standpoint.
I
hope
you
find
some
benefit
to
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
overall
with
coachmen
Park.
So
with
that
I
hope
it
didn't.
Take
too
much
time,
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
and
I
have.
F
L
L
If
you
recall
that
the
our
music
partner,
Ruth
Eckerd
Hall,
I,
think
in
April
of
this
year,
when
the
council
was
considering
the
magic
air,
water
were
strong
advocates
of
them
to
them
about
building
a
four
thousand
C
Tampa
theater
in
the
back
of
house
as
being
able
to
attract
more
and
higher
levels
of
entertainment
and
city
council,
like
that
idea
and
invited
that
that
would
be
the
being
the
path
that
we
would
be
on.
So
what's.
M
F
L
F
L
Covered
seating
canopy
is,
you
know,
probably
about
315
feet
the
length
of
you
know.
The
overall
thing
is
about
300
feet,
long,
it's
a
big!
It's
a
large
structure,
yeah,
so
I
guess
what
would
happen
there
is
that
if
the,
if
the
band
shell
or
the
amphitheaters
with
it's
inactive,
you
know
it's
4,000
covered
seats.
Although
the
seats
cannot
by
charter,
be
permanent,
so
without
having
another
Charter
reference,
the
seats
can't
be
permanent,
so
we
have
to
take
seats
out
when
they're
not
being
used
so
I.
L
It's
about
a
14
million
dollar
cost
to
build
back
a
house
and
the
cover
singing.
So
we
have
that
conversation
with
them
Monday
morning
about
what
that
looks
like
to
us
from
a
programming
and
a
annual
budgetary
expense
standpoint.
It's
it's
not
something
we
would.
We
believe
that
we
can
run
in
the
house
this.
This
is
not
a
Special
Events
Committee
facility.
L
L
Levels
of
usage,
one
level
of
usage
is
fairly
low.
It's
similar
to
what
we
are
probably
accustomed
to
now
in
terms
of
the
level
of
activity
of
the
waterfront,
which
our
public
was
very
comfortable
with
I
think
you
know
clear
waters
got
a
long
tradition
of
the
Jazz
Festival,
the
things
that
we
do
and
I
think
the
community
is
very
comfortable
with
that.
L
You
know
why
would
you
build?
You
know
14
million-dollar
amphitheater
back
a
house
covered
seating
and
all
that
you
would
presumably
build
that
for
a
pretty
high
level
of
of
activity.
I,
don't
know
that
that
level
of
activity
is
sustainable
downtown.
So
my
guess
is
that
it
will
gravitate
legally
or
otherwise
back
more
towards
a
conservative
point
or
even
lower,
depending
upon
the
impacts
of
that
so
I.
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L
L
L
Unless
there
isn't
that
and
it's
the
event
area
is
secured
for
ticketed
events,
so
conceptually
the
ticketed
events
would
occur
really
kind
of
around
that
that
big
green
there
that
lawn
area
front
of
the
venue
I
think
you
know
we
have
concerns
that
we
would
not
be
able
to
restrict
access
to
the
remainder
of
the
park
if
there's
an
event
now
whether
the
event
operator
is
happy
trying,
you
know:
selling
tickets
to
a
ticketed
event
when
people
can
freely
congregate
around
the
perimeters.
The
park.
L
I,
don't
know
from
a
logistical
standpoint:
how
the
folks,
who
lease
that
will
will
feel
about
it
that
I,
my
understanding
is
from
some
of
those
that
I've
talked
to
that
you
know.
Their
concern
is
with
the
4,000
covered
seats,
and
if
they,
you
know,
get
that
area
secured,
then
they
really
don't
care.
What
goes
on
outside
the
the
4,000
seats.
L
A
L
I
think
you
know
homeless,
as
every
city
has
an
issue
with
that.
You
know
I
think
an
active
part
parks
that
are
more
active
and
you
tend
to
that.
That
issue
tends
to
be
a
little
less
apparent
right
now
when
you
go
down
there
and
about
the
only
folks
that
we
find
in
our
waterfront
park
areas
are
the
homeless
people.
It's
it's
a
little
disconcerting,
but
anyone
would
have
a
right
to
the
park.
It
would
be
able
to
use
the
park.
L
We
will
we
will
not
tolerate
certain
behaviors,
as
we
don't
know
and
I
think
our
Police
Department
is
anticipating
what
demands
they
may
have
on
a
staffing
standpoint
to
make
sure
that
this
expanded,
Waterfront
Park
areas.
You
know,
as
has
the
level
of
security
that
we're
used
to
down
here
and
comfortable
with
you
know,
but
there
would
be
no
prohibition
I'm.
L
Certainly
people
will
be
able
to
be
there
but
I
think
if
we
can
get
our
community
back
in
the
park,
then
the
homeless
problem
in
and
of
itself
will
not
seem
quite
as
what
else
now,
when
there's
very
little
activity,
if
any
occurring
down
there.
So,
but
you
know-
that's,
that's,
always
a
part
of
our
thinking.
We
have
been
from
the
beginning.
It's
does
it
go
away.
We're
not
gonna
put
it
this
way
as
a
friend.
L
Parks
Commissioner
in
New,
York
City,
miss
silver
said:
you
know
we
we,
our
parks,
are
for
everybody.
You
know
we're
not
going
to
design
a
new
york
city
park
system
for
eight
and
a
half
million
people
when
we've
got
64,000
homeless
people
in
new
york
city
we're
not
going
to
design
the
parks
for
so
I
think
you
know
we're
designing
the
park
for
the
hundred
and
sixteen
thousand
residents
of
clearwater
and
we
will
manage
the
park
and
the
impacts
of
that
as
we
as
we
do.
C
A
That
would
be
full-time
management
for
security
purposes.
Let
me
give
you
an
example:
when
I
come
to
this
library
in
in
the
evening,
there's
always
homeless
people
all
around
and
as
a
as
a
woman,
it's
disconcerting
and
I
don't
feel
secure,
walking
in
and
out
of
these
establishments.
So
here
we
are
we're
planning
this
beautiful
and
I'll,
give
you
that
is
gorgeous
it's
beautiful
and
it
comes
down
to
will
it
be
safe
and
secure
for
people
like
me
if
I
want
to
go
run
in
the
park,
that's
important.
My
next
question
would
be.
A
L
A
A
It
just
looks
very
expensive
and
I
want
to
really
I
get
to
a
dollar
amount
on
where
we're
at,
because
it's
an
extensive
a
lot.
It's
a
lot
of
things
that
you're
you're,
showing
and
there's
in
the
design
and
that's
it's
expensive.
So,
for
example,
the
security,
the
transportation,
the
trash
removal
I
mean
there's.
So
many
important
facets
to
the
design
to
keep
things
you
know
from
impact
to
our
water
ways
to
you
know
to
miss
municipalities.
It's
there's
so
much
involved
and
I
just
see
a
lot
of
dollars.
L
What's
an
expensive
park,
I
mean
we've
all
we've
all
read
that
I
think
the
original
HR
name,
consultants,
I,
think
if
you
go
back
to
2017,
the
estimate
when
they
were
done
was
anywhere
from
thirty
five
to
fifty
million
dollars
or
fifty
five
somewhere
in
there,
and
that
was
the
number
that
came
up
at
the
time
we
made
some
changes.
We've
added
this
we've
added
that
we've
done
you
know.
Probably
the
biggest
thing
was
the
the
amphitheater
decision
in
April.
L
L
But
right
now
you
know
it.
It
almost
doesn't
read
like
it
reads:
you
know:
Wow,
here's
the
right
now
we're
kind
of
we're,
given
what
we've
added
to
the
park,
which
is
the
amphitheater
and
the
overall
balance,
we're
kind
of
where
our
consultants
generally
thought
we
would
be,
and
so
you
know
we
that's
why
we
had
so
much
of
a
discussion
in
December
with
counsel
over
the
30
year
bond.
L
L
I
think
the
the
last
is
similar
in
we
we
counted
in
some
other
work
in
there.
We're
gonna,
be
Memorial,
causeway,
bridge
lighting,
we're
working
on
that,
so
that
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
are
in
that
pot
of
money,
not
just
what
you're
looking
at
on
our
screen,
so
I
think
all
that's
in
the
in
the
mid
to
upper
60s.
So
we're
doing
some.
You
know,
there's
various
components
to
it.
D
D
Don't
propose
over
60,
yes
and
they've
got
their
over
fear
like
when
they
added
the
amphitheater,
the
4,000
seats
covered
and
so
forth
that
added,
as
he
indicated,
like
14
and
a
half
million
dollars
right
there.
So
by
that
time
we
were
in
the
60s
and
I
think
when
they
proved
when
they
were
working
on.
The
bond
issue
was
about.
65
million
is
what
I
write,
because.
B
L
A
referendum
yeah
the
the
heart
review
site.
If
we
do
mixed-use
residential
over
retail
there,
the
original
plan
suggested
multifamily
as
being
there,
there's
probably
the
best
from
a
market
economic
standpoint.
The
best
thing
would
be
multifamily,
but
frankly
you
know
having
residences.
On
top
of
the
you
know,
a
large
amphitheater
like
that
may
not
be
the
most
suitable
land-use
there,
so
we
can
always
look
at
a
boutique
hotel,
for
that
would
give
us
more
of
a
transient
population
along
that's.
So
you
know
that
may
be
where
the
market
goes.
L
If
it's
residential
or
hotel,
that
property
could
be
sold
to
city,
wouldn't
have
to
retain
ownership.
Of
that.
We've
talked
about
the
City
Hall
site,
you
know,
as
being
it
may
be
a
potential
Civic,
another
Civic
component
to
the
park,
so
we've
got
the
library
on
the
north
end,
we've
got
the
city
hall
on
the
south
end.
L
Given
that
we've
blocked
out
as
a
regular
aren't
fleeing
transaction,
we
would
not
need
a
referendum
to
sell
the
sea
of
a
site,
but
that's
we
would
for
the
City
Hall
site
and
the
Harbor
View
sites.
So
it
could
go
as
a
late
lease
long
term,
land
lease
it
might
depend
on
which
you
know
which,
how
we
fashioned
that,
maybe
you
know,
depend
upon
what
it
most
comfortable
with
our
community
in
terms
of
a
successful
referendum.
But
there
wouldn't
necessarily
inherently
be
a
need
to
retain
the
ownership.
D
L
Have
it
yet,
but
we're
getting
ready
to
put
out
some
and
our
request,
for
you
know,
qualifications
for
developers
to
to
see
what
kind
of
interests
we
have
with
that
and
the
other
properties
along
the
bluff.
And
we
should
be
that
that
well,
that
should
get
on
the
street
in
February
this
month.
Coming
up.
F
L
C
L
L
You
know
20
or
25%,
or
something
like
that,
like
the
the
concept
of
it.
Another
larger
group
in
the
middle
really
didn't
care,
ambivalent
and
then
the
other
percentage
thought
it
was
terrible.
So
you
know
it's.
There
was
a
plurality
of
people
who
either
liked
it
or
didn't
care.
There
was
a
segment
about
a
third
give
or
take
without
knowing
the
percentages
who
just
didn't
didn't
like
it
at
all.
It's
for
whatever
reason.
L
L
That
was
a
serious
recommendation,
brought
us
beatles
framed
poster
thing:
promoting
the
magical
mystery
park
left
it
in
City,
Hall
I'm,
not
sure
what
we
did
with
it.
But
it's
very
well
done.
L
You
know,
I
think,
leave
that
to
you
to
come
in
making
recommendations
to
Council
I.
You
know
I
I,
think
what
I'll
say
about
this
is
that
I
would
like
to
see
us
have
something
that
we
can
pull
the
entire
property
together.
Then
we
can
brand
it
and
market
it
and
create
a
sense
of
place
with
it.
You
know,
do
I
think
comes
from
comments.
Would
afford
us
an
opportunity
to
do
that.
Yes,
I
think
it's
kind
of
a
catchy.
L
You
know
it's
one
of
those
things
where
people
won't
like
it,
but
it
might
grow
long
after
that.
Is
that
sacred,
absolutely
not
I
think
we
can
work
with
it
and
make
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
promotional
benefit
to
us.
Yes,
you
know
I
think
the
the
only
other
thing
I'll
say
about
that
is
that
we
are
not
restricted.
The
city
bought
the
coachmen
property
outright
from
the
it's,
not
a
dedicated,
restricted
constraint
to
us.
So.
L
D
So,
therefore,
when
it
did
come
to
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Board
to
review
that
it
wasn't
surprised
to
me,
I
had
heard
it
before
I
knew
where
you
were
coming
from
and
in
fact
I
supported
when
it
came
before
the
board,
but
on
the
5th
of
November
we
turned
it
down
as
the
council
that
I
think
you
proposed
it
to
us
to
recommend
that
it
be
accepted
and
we
turned
it
down.
So
my
question
now
is
when
that
went
back
to
City
Council.
Where
does
it
stand
now
with
respect
to
well.
L
I
went
back
to
City,
Council
I
said
you
know:
I
was
not
able
to
attend
the
meeting.
Last
fall
and
I
really
felt
like
you
know.
We
needed
to
come
and
show
you
what
we're
know,
not
the
name
but
the
park
plan,
how
we're
trying
to
activate
the
park
as
a
work
of
art
and
its
own
right,
and
we
had
not
done
that
and
when
I,
when
I
came
on
board
over
here
and
kind
of
got
the
project
assigned
to
be
in
April.
L
M
L
Know
I'm
not
here
to
try
to
convince
you
to
support
the
name
or
not
support
something.
My
main
priority
or
purpose
for
being
here
is
to
show
you
the
parks
board.
How
were
intended
to
activate
your
park
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
it
now
you
know,
if
you
happen
to
like
you,
know,
I
think
we
can
make
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
dance
with
it,
but
if
you
don't
and
council
doesn't
want
a
name,
they.
N
F
A
question
about
the
amphitheater:
is
it
true
that
you're
going
to
be
offering
the
naming
of
the
amphitheater
yearly
so
like
Tampa?
Did
you
know
as
Gary?
So
no
one
refer
to
it
as
coachman
Commons.
It
would
be
the
you
know,
whatever
whatever
whoever
wins
there
pays
for
it
and
then
the
next
year
it
might
change,
and
it's
gonna
always
nobody's
gonna
know
what
the
name
of
it
is
like.
The
one
council.
B
C
G
D
G
That
was
just
presented
and
I'd
like
to
remind
the
board
that
this
is
not
a
discussion
between
the
speakers
on
the
board.
But
each
member
beac
know
where
the
public
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak
and
then
take
their
seat.
And
if
the
board
would
like
to
discuss
amongst
yourselves
when
they're
come
when
they're
included.
J
J
This
is
the
resolution
and
it
says
it's
from:
let's
see:
June
4
1967
number
62
def
70,
whereas
the
city
of
Clearwater
has
purchased
certain
properties
from
these
states
of
EH
coachman
and
may
as
coachman
and
others
I'm
not
going
to
read
all
cuz
I,
don't
want
to
use
a
plan
if
we
have
enough
time,
but
it
does
say,
whereas
C,
whereas
it
is
desired
to
dedicate
horse,
never
said,
may
halt
property.
That's
what
it
used
to
be
called
me.
All
property
and
other
property
is
located
a
city
of
a
halt.
J
Unfortunately,
okay,
here
it
is
it's
on
the
back
second
side.
Okay,
that
said,
Park
is
hereby
designated
and
named
coachmen
Park
and
shall
henceforth
be
known
and
referred
to
by
that
name.
So
that
is
a
resolution
that
we
signed
with
the
Coachman's
in
1962
and
then
one
other
thing
you're
asking
about.
How
did
we
get
to
this
point?
Well,
this
is
the
ordinance
that
the
City
Council
passed
in
August
of
2017
ordinance,
number
906,
three
and
the
last
page
of
the
ordinance
and
at
the
bottom
of
the
circle
right
here.
J
J
J
K
17:56
West
Lagoon
circle
I
just
wanted
to
make
clear
I
think
coachmen
Park
should
keep
its
name.
That's
a
big
piece
of
history.
It's
a
part
of
our
history
of
clear
water.
We
should
honor
the
Coachman's
in
that
resolution.
She
mentioned
that
resolution.
62
70,
June,
4th
1962,
it
was
read
upon,
will
and
purchased
the
property
that
the
property
shall
be
known.
This
coachmen
park
is
part
of
coachmen
park.
We
can
expand
the
park
and
include
everything
else.
I,
don't
think
it's
right
to
rename
it
and
take
away
from
the
honor.
K
I
also
think
that
he
didn't
mention
really
how
the
dates
were.
Gonna
go
if
we
go
at
it
minimal
on
the
the
amphitheater
69
days
is
a
minimal.
A
conservative
is
a
hundred
and
nineteen
and
a
aggressive
utilization
the
to
try
to
cut
down
the
cost
of
such
a
big
building
is
200
days
a
year.
It's
the
center
third
of
our
Park.
It's
gonna
take
away
from
the
entire
park.
I,
don't
think
we
should
allow
the
sale
of
the
bluff
properties.
The
seeming
parking
lot
is
a
parking
lot.
K
E
E
M
O
And
ch
just
a
couple
of
comments:
you
were
talking
about
money
earlier
and
they
just
want
to
refer
back
to
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
that
was
held
Monday
morning
and
to
reference
what
mister
Morton
said.
They
went
provided
three
scenarios
but
there's
aggressive
utilization,
conservative
utilization,
a
minimal
utilization
of
the
partners,
particularly
of
the
amphitheater.
Again,
as
he
said,
aggressive
utilization
would
be
if
they
had
a
concert.
O
There
are
200
days
out
of
the
year
and
conservative
would
be
119
days
of
the
year
and
minimum
would
be
69
days
out
of
the
year
in
every
scenario:
the
annual
abundant
budget
for
the
m4
there.
What
do
you
two
million
dollars
every
single
year
and
an
aggressive
utilization?
It
would
be
two
point:
zero,
nine
1
million
dollars
the
conservative.
It
would
be
two
point:
three
one:
five
million
dollars
and
a
minimal
utilization
would
be
two
point:
three
nine
three
million
dollars.
O
They
were
that
in
the
red
every
single
year,
so
I
just
want
to
give
you
the
information.
That
was
what
was
provided
to
the
council
Monday
morning
and
they
were
fine
with
it.
The
other
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
what
Lisa
said.
The
wording
hold
the
referendum
that
the
voters
approved.
I
think
everybody
is
excited
about.
Imagine
Clearwater
because
we
do
want
to
utilize
our
beautiful
waterfront,
but
this
is
not.
This
is
not
what
the
voters
approved.
This
is
Ruth
Eckerd,
Hall
West
and
it
is
not
approved.
O
P
Good
evening,
my
name
is
alia,
Van
Dyne
being
in
the
UI
bu.
Why
any?
Thank
you
I
think
the
idea
of
coachman
Park
being
reinvented
is
amazing.
It
does
look
very
very
expensive,
but
my
main
concern
with
the
whole
idea
is
parking.
I
know
that
the
amphitheater
is
estimated
to
sit
4,000
people,
but
with
only
250
parking
spots
in
the
area
is
very
discouraging.
I
live
7,
minutes
away
and
I
know
how
crazy
it
can
get
around
spring
break
time,
just
off
the
base
backed
up
or
even
just
how
crazy
it's
been
with
them.
P
I
Dryer
I
appreciate
the
time
and
effort
and
creativity
that
went
into
putting
this
vision
together.
That
being
said,
I
opposed
the
amphitheater,
the
sound
light,
fountain
elements,
the
library
renovations
it's
too
much.
It
overwhelms
what
I
would
like
to
see
as
a
bucolic
Park
I
oppose
selling
the
land,
but
the
city
owns
around
this
park.
We
have
an
issue
with
ownership
by
one
entity
downtown
right
now
and
to
sell
city
land
is
just
going
to
create
the
possibility
that
that
becomes
more
of
an
issue.
I
think
the
city
needs
to
hold
onto
the
land.
I
C
N
My
name
is
Miranda
Douglas
Clearwater,
Florida
I'm,
a
Clearwater
data,
so
I
do
love
the
idea
of
reinventing
the
park
and
I've
learned
a
lot
about
the
relationship
of
the
design
and
maybe
the
budget.
Through
these,
the
events,
some
things
that
stood
out
that
map
that
talked
about
was
that
this
project
would
support
the
social
infrastructure
and
reestablished
public
ownership.
N
I
would
be
curious
to
know
if
any
local
businesses
or
anything
like
that
would
be
a
part
of
construction
or
a
part
of
sourcing
the
materials
so
that
maybe
those
Hospital
Ord
in
the
overall
project
also
I
was
looking
at
the
relationship
with
our
sister
city
in
Japan
and
I.
Don't
really
see
that
the
focus
is
on
a
musical
outlet,
but
more
so
really
focusing
on
the
water
which
we
have
here
in
Clearwater,
so
maybe
downsizing
the
amphitheater
and
going
more
in
line
with
the
boating
lifestyle.
N
That
we
would
support
here
would
be
something
to
consider
in
the
design.
If
that's
able
to
be
added
or
amended
I
also
agree
parking
would
be
atrocious
here
in
traffic
in
general.
If
we
did
decide
to
go
with
such
a
large
amphitheater
in
such
a
condensed
area,
so
I
would
just
want
to
recommend
some
revaluation
to
design
to
include
some
more
building
lifestyle
and
just
to
bring
the
sides
of
the
amphitheater
down.
L
D
Heard
previously
about
us
trying
to
engage
with
Nagano
as
our
sister
city
relative
to
the
design,
but
I
also
heard
you
might
want
to
engage
with
them
relative
to
the
cost
of
some
of
the
things
that
they
may
see
is
to
their
benefit
to
have
in
the
park
relative
to
that
sister
city
status,
and
we
officially
approached
them
about
either
the
design
or
what
would
be
in
the
park
or
the
financing.
What
might
be
in
the
park.
You.
L
B
B
L
B
L
G
L
B
H
Actually
yeah,
you
actually
can't
see
coachmen
park
as
you're
going
over
it
going
west
because
of
the
way
the
road
is.
Is
curved
I've
tried
to
look
out
at
the
concerts
and
it's
very
least,
yeah
coming
east.
You
will
see
the
lights
and
those
kind
of
things,
but
once
you
hit
the
bridge
itself,
you
can't
see
it.
It's
not
been
raised
as.
A
Transportation,
no
transportation,
so
so,
let's
say
scenario
wise:
you
we're
talking
about
a
possible
boutique
hotel
or
a
multi-family,
but
boutique
hotel.
Let's
go
back
to
that!
Well,
apparently,
you
would
be
thinking
on
the
lines
of
well
we're
gonna
have
to.
We
have
the
4,000
non-fixed
seated
amphitheater,
so
wouldn't
that
be
perfect
for
all
those
people
to
stay
there.
Well,
that's
not
enough!
So
they
have
to
go
down
to
the
beach
correct.
So
we're
talking
about.
We've
already
got
traffic
jams
on
the
causeway
to
and
fro
every
day.
L
A
It
the
question
would
be
then:
was
it
4,000
seats
non-fixed,
which
is
typically
fixed
until
you
remove
them
so
fixed
and
the
one
area
and
all
the
other
area
around
so
you're,
bringing
all
these
people
together
and
you're
you're?
There
was
no
discussion
about
how
you're
gonna
get
them
in
and
out
safely
and
not
only
safely,
but
there's
already
clogs
from
the
causeway
from
the
beach
to
downtown
and
there's
only
two
ferries,
so
the
conversation
would
be.
Has
it
been
thought
about
it?
Well,.
L
L
A
Seating
non
fixed,
fixed
seating,
so
in
other
words
you're
gonna,
sell
exactly
four
thousand
seats
and
then
you're
gonna
have
the
lawn
area
and
then
you're
gonna
have
outside
of
the
gated
lawn
area.
Even
more
people
is
that
true
that
we
actually
have
had
an
event
like
that
that
has
all
those
people
coming
together
at
once.
H
At
one
time,
yes,
we
went
down
there,
that's
I'm,
sorry,
well,
fourth
of
July
is
humongous.
If
you
ever
been
down
here
during
that
time,
I
we
don't
even
we
don't
even
try
to
count
as
many
people
as
we
have,
but
we've
we've
entertained
upwards
stuff,
I,
don't
I
think
we
had
an
event
that
pushed
it
and
went
about
14,000.
And
after
that
we
said
the
fire
department.
It
sets
us
standard,
I
think
it's
in
to
about
eleven
thousand
four
coachman
park
now,
and
so
that's
what
we've
been
able
to
accommodate
there.
H
B
H
It
depends
on
I
mean
the
large
ones
like
that.
Would
we
would
have
I
think
the
study
had
several
large
events,
but
most
of
them
are
going
to
be
in
the
four
thousand
seat.
That's
the
thing
that
I
think
Ruth
Eckerd
Hall
shared.
That's
the
thing.
That's
missing
to
this
the
whole
area
that
to
have
an
outdoor
amphitheater
of
a
4,000
seats.
They
have
some
that
are
two
thousand
or
1500,
and
so
anyways
that
you
know
and
then
we'll
have,
like
you
said
many
they're,
just
smaller
than
that
mm.
L
D
The
the
consulting
work
we
did
back
in
April
last
year
there
was
there
was
a
council
meeting
last
year,
specifically
on
this
topic,
where
they
actually,
he
has
for
public
comment.
It
was
quite
well
if
there
was
a
huge
crowd
Pro
and
against
basically
to
look
at
whether
it
should
be
2200
seats
or
4,000
seats,
and
should
it
be
a
covered
amphitheater.
That
was
the
whole
discussion
that
night
I
was
there
for
that,
and
at
the
end
of
that
discussion
and
all
the
public
comment
and
so
forth,
good
and
bad.
A
Just
think,
there's
gonna
be
an
enormous
impact
to
already
what
is
considered
an
awful
commute
just
getting
on
and
off
the
beach,
and
we
have
four
more
hotels
being
you
know
that
have
been
permitted
in
addition
to
the
condominium.
That's
been
permitted,
so
we're
looking
at
all
influx
of
a
lot
of
travel
on
it
on
the
causeway
and
it's
already
an
issue.
That's
so
I
just
want
to.
L
The
point
that
I
would
I
think
if
valid,
is
that
we
I
mean
the
traffic
characteristics
are
not
going
to
change
that
much,
but
the
right
of
usage
is
anticipated
to
go
up
with
the
venue.
That
I
think
is
a
is
a
I
agree
with
you
on
that
count.
So,
instead
of
doing
it,
I
don't
know
20
times
a
year
30
times
a
year,
we're
we're
looking
at.
You
know
a
higher
rate
of
usage,
so
it
the
frequency,
wolves
and
there's
no
question
about
that.
But
as
this
gentleman
sent,
the
council
direction
is
clear.
L
A
L
Traffic
planning
and
operations
is,
is
a
daily
conversation
that
at
some
level
in
Clearwater.
So
yes,
we
talk
about
that,
you
know.
Is
there
a?
Is
there
a
kind
of
a
magic
solution?
Of
that
answer?
Is
no,
you
know
we're,
not
writing.
Widening
the
roadways,
we're
not
you
know,
building
new
bridges,
so
I
think
you
know
as
we.
We
support
infrastructure
alternatives,
but
you
know
the
ferry
doesn't
eliminate
stop-and-go
traffic
on
the
bridge.
You
know
the
trolley
system
that
we
also
support
doesn't
stop.
L
You
know
even
as
we
we
know
you
know
our
destination
is,
has
been
for
a
long
time
and
will
be
for
a
long
time
to
come.
It's
going
to
be
a
very
congested
environment
for
us
just
by
virtue
of
the
fact
that
we're
you
know
we're
a
mile
from
the
Clearwater
Beach,
so
I
mean
that
that's
not
going
to
change
appreciably.
A
G
So
it's
not
not
something
that
that
this
discussion
can
is
going
to
change,
and
if
the
discussion
is
more
about
infrastructure
planning
and
traffic
issues,
that's
not
necessarily
something
that
that
would
be
heard
in
front
of
this
board
that
perhaps
it's
up
on
the
other
advisory
boards
or
by
the
council
itself.
Oh.
A
I
disagree.
So
when
any
permanent
process,
you
have
to
have
your
engineering
plan
in
place,
whether
it
be
traffic,
whether
it
be
civil,
whether
it
be
whatever
it
comes
part
of
the
construction
documents,
and
so
those
conversations
would
have
had
to
have
had
been
spoke
about
in
this
design.
You
can't
I
mean
the
fire
part
and
Fire
Department
won't
allow
an
infrastructure
like
this,
whether
it's
indoor
or
outdoor,
without
those
discussions
and
F
dot,
would
want
a
conversation
about
that
as
well.
D
M
F
H
Am
our
caterer
I
am
the
interim
director
if
I
haven't
know
several
of
you.
Okay
I
met
you
before
I
have
been
with
the
city
of
Clearwater
from
41
years,
I
started
back
in
1979
as
the
Assistant
Parks
and
Recreation
Director
under
Wilson.
You
might
remember
that
name
just
because
a
real
Wilson
trail,
if
you
go
down
anywhere
down
McMullen
booth,
Road
you'll
see
the
trail
that
goes
across
there
and
hopefully
you've
enjoyed
that
and
gone
on
and
ridden
it.
It's
the
beautiful.
H
It
really
is
so
I've
been
here
since
1965
in
Clearwater,
so
I
have
quite
a
history
here
and
have
watched
Claire
water
grow.
I
was
graduated
from
clover.
High
school
I
won't
tell
you
the
year,
but
in
any
event,
I
remember
saying
keen
when
they
were
just
Australian
Pines
and
we
could
go
out
there
with
our
cars
and
put
in
campfires
and
all
that
kind
of
thing.
So
that
really
does
aids
me.
Okay,
but
I
am
doing
the
interim,
because
I
have
done
that
before,
where
20
years
ago,
when,
when
mr.
H
Wilson
left
for
talks
believe
two
years
before
we
got
another
director
which
was
Kevin
del
Mar
and
the
city
manager
asked
me
to
be
interim
now
with
mr.
Dunbar's
departure,
so
I
said
I
would
be
willing
to
do
that.
So
I
wanted
the
board
to
know
where
we
are
in
that
regard.
They
have
already
gone
out
to
the
industry.
Basically,
looking
for
someone
I
mean
they're,
not
you
know
that
desperate,
but
they're
going
out
it's
a
it's
a
nationwide
search
for
another
director,
I
think
it
closes
at
the
end
of
this
month.
H
I've
checked
with
the
personnel
director
and
she
says
that
they
have
well
over
within
the
first
couple
of
weeks
a
hundred
applications
for
the
position
of
Director
of
Parks
and
Recreation.
After
that
they
will
go
through
an
interview
process.
They'll
select,
you
know,
come
down,
you
obviously
can't
take
a
hundred,
so
you
get
it
down
to
a
list,
that's
manageable
and
they
will
come
in
they'll
interview
them
and
we're
hopeful
that
we'll
have
a
director.
H
H
H
League
soccer
I
thought
just
thought:
everybody
knew
Major,
League,
Soccer
and
they're.
Also
on
your
list
here,
crest
Lake
Park.
We
hope
to
have
approval
of
that
on
the
February
20th
meeting
of
the
City
Council,
we're
taking
it
to
them.
At
that
point
in
time
with
we're,
gonna
have
groundbreaking
on
the
very
next
day
on
the
21st.
You
certainly
will
be
invited.
We
will
send
you
invitations,
let
you
know
about
that.
I
think
it's
gonna
be
early.
In
the
morning
we've
been
doing
some
ground
breakings,
then
and
ribbon-cuttings.
H
Then
so
I
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of
that
and
then
the
other
basically
ribbon-cutting
will
be
in
March,
which
will
be
the
countryside,
Sports
Complex,
building
the
new
building
that
we
have
there.
It's
a
press
box,
restroom
storage,
concession
and
all
that,
if
you've
ever
been
out
to
countryside
Sportsplex,
they
now
four
little
buildings
that
they
built
over
the
years.
The
many
40
years
that
I
that
we
built
those
and
those
will
be
taken
down
once
this
building
is
is
in
action.
H
D
H
D
You
I
have
a
question
for
you.
Yes,
I,
think
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
asked
that
we
could
review.
Very
briefly
with
you,
was
the
problem
that
the
parks
and
recreation
departments
had
with
financial
controls
and
certain
things
were
done.
I
believe
I
met
with
Kevin
Dunbar
prior
to
his
departure.
Yes,
but
certain
things
that
were
in
place
to
hopefully
prevent
the
problems
that
have
occurred
in
the
past
and
I
was
just
curious.
H
We
did
have
some
issues
in
the
past,
but
what
we've
done
is
that
we've
put
more
emphasis
on
that
by
hiring
a
comptroller.
We
never
had
that.
We
had
simply
an
accountant
in
our
department.
It
was
all
we
now
have
a
comptroller
that
handles
that
we
put
in
a
Senior
Accountant,
so
we
put
and
put
two
strong
individuals
in
there
to
basically
review
we
honored
all
of
our.
They
all
go
through
that
office
and
we
altered
any
event
that
we
have.
Special
events
was
the
main
thing
that
it
came
up.
H
Issues
with
be
quite
honest
with
you
and
matter
of
fact,
we
just
went
through
the
Hispanic
carriage
concert
had
very
successful.
We
went
back
through
and
the
auditor
everything
was
to
the
dime
came
out
perfectly,
so
I
think
we're,
and
we
also
are
going
through
what
we
call
standard
operating
procedures
as
some
piece
rewriting
those
making
sure
everyone
understands
processes.
You
know.
In
other
words,
how
do
you
rent
attempt
to
sell
concessions
at
coachmen
Park
for
a
special
thing?
H
There's
a
whole
process,
we're
getting
those
things
all
down,
pat
so
everybody
understands
and
we're
training
our
and
all
that
and
then
we'll
have
an
all
in
document
form
we
have
much
of
it
already,
but
we
have
several
recommendations
from
an
audit
that
came
forward
and
we're
following
up
with
that
so
I.
Personally,
it's
a
very
good
question.
I.
D
Come
from
the
business
world
and
we
never
had
a
real
problem
like
you
experienced
in
parks
and
recreation,
because
we
had
a
culture
in
any
business.
I
was
involved
in
of
honesty.
Yes,
our
people
knew
from
the
day
they
were
hired,
what
should
be
done
and
what
should
not
be
done
and
what
another
employee
should
never
tolerate
and
the
effect
of
not
doing
that
was
termination.
They
knew
it
from
day
one
that,
if
you
did
this
dishonest
act
involving
funds
or
money
on
behalf
of
the
company,
you
would
be
terminated
without
any
further
hearings.
D
Yes
and
I,
don't
know
of
many
people
that
could
afford
to
be
put
on
the
street
with
their
family
and
whatever
automatically
from
termination,
and
therefore
we
never
really
had
this
type
of
problem.
So
my
question
to
you
is:
is
there
a
problem
with
the
culture
of
honesty
in
the
parts
of
Recreation,
Department
bindis.
H
M
H
Really
ridiculous
what
we
do
do
that
they
are
what
they
call
safe
employees,
they're,
not
hourly
employees.
They
work
until
the
job
gets
done.
I
think
the
things
that
have
come
out
are
not
things
that
where
there
was
dishonesty
I
think
there
was
record-keeping
issues.
There
may
have
been
decisions
that
were
made
that
didn't
have
documents,
because
the
audit
that
was
done
was
like
a
forensic
audit
for
me
were
those
they
detailed
everything.
H
Whatever
contract
says:
you'll
abide
by
every
line
item
on
that
contract,
and
you
can't
match
that
up
or
you
don't
have
any
backup
for
that
so
to
speak.
Then
you
violated
that
agreement.
The
reality
is
the
money.
Wasn't
this?
It's
just!
That
paperwork
was
me
in
many
cases,
so
I
I
believe
strongly
in
our
employees.
I,
don't
believe
they're
dishonest.
H
H
We
don't
make
a
whole
lot
of
money
in
any
of
these
big
concerts
that
we
made
the
way
that
funds
come
in
really
are
in
the
areas
where,
when
we
can
release
the
park
out
or
have
someone
else
put
all
the
event
home
and
pay
for
it
rather
than
the
city
having
to
subsidizing
and
generally
Parks
and
Recreation
is
subsidized.
We
try
to
do
these
things.
We
do
have
some
successful
concerts.
We're
going
to
have
one
coming
up
then,
where
they're
renting
the
park
I
can't
think
of
it
now.
Can
you
help
me?
M
H
We
know
you
will
you
know
where
you'll
be,
but
that's
an
event
that
will
make
money
for
the
city,
and
then
we
will
take
her
around
use
that
money
in
the
fund
to
offer
a
free
concert
like
see
blue,
see
Blues
is
freedom
public
and
come
down
and
enjoy
that
so
we'd
use
money
from
those
where
we
can
make
some
revenue
so
that
we
can
offer
some
free
things.
Fourth
of
July
another.
D
Question
it
was
brought
to
my
attention
that
Parks
and
Recreation
is
in
fact
responsible
for
sidewalk
hazards,
and
there
was
an
article
not
too
long
ago
about
the
city
having
to
support
a
lawsuit
for
fifteen
thousand
dollars
to
a
citizen
that
hurt
themselves
on
a
hazardous
sidewalk.
I
wasn't
aware
that
that
was
under
parks
and
recreation,
but
now
I
am
so.
My
question
to
you
is:
is
that
a
serious
problem
with
respect
the
numbers
of
sidewalk
hazards
and
the
management
of
those
hazards
by
Parks
and
Recreation?
Is
it
something
we
should
be
concerned
about?
Well.
H
We
are
trying
to
manage
it.
I
just
had
a
meeting,
a
matter
of
fact
yesterday
about
a
work
order
system,
improved
work
order
system
so
that
we
can
track
and
trace.
When
we
get
the
we
get
a
complaint
or
it's
us
in
public
stuff
right,
you
can
send
that
you
know
the
residents
can
do
that,
send
it
at
any
time
and
then
we
get
it
will
go
out
and
inspect
the
damage
on
sidewalk.
H
H
To
is
that,
every
time
any
department
goes
out
to
do
any
work,
listen,
they
storm
water
utilities
they
come
in
and
they
cut
you
know
lines
or
holes
in
the
sidewalk
or
the
street.
They
have
to
call
upon
the
the
crews
in
our
department
to
go
and
fix
that.
So
we
use
one
full
day
a
week
with
almost
a
nine
nine
or
ten
employees
just
to
go
out
and
do
that
work
so
it
and
then
the
rest
of
the
four
days
we
schedule
them
out
and.
D
H
We
have
we
have
contracts,
that's
another
way,
that's
the
way
you
can
expand
what
you
do
with
limited.
You
know
resource
I,
full-time
positions.
We
have
actually
a
contracts
that
do
sidewalks.
There
are
honors
contracts
to
do,
curbs
and
then
I
think
there's
some
screw
tree.
Parents
I
understand
the
major
or
large
street
research
projects
and
sidewalk
projects
I've
done
by
the
engineering
department.
That
is
not
done
by
Parks
and
Recreation.
We
are
handling
all
the
small
complaints.
H
D
H
I
would
say
no
he'd
be
more.
You
know
we
need
in
that
area,
especially.
We
need
to
find
a
way
to
resource
it
properly.
If
we're
going
to
address
all
the
sidewalks,
that's
one
of
the
good
things
about
Clearwater.
We
do
have
sidewalks
everywhere.
It's
a
requirement
in
the
planning
department
to
put
in
the
sidewalk
once
you
do
that,
then
you
have
to
maintain.
We
are
a
tree
city.
Also,
people
love
trees.
H
We
have
issues
when
we
go
out
to
fix
a
sidewalk
that
has
been
buckled
by
three
several
times
and
we
have
no
option
other
option
but
to
remove
the
tree.
The
residents
upset
about
that
because
the
tree
they
love
the
tree.
The
tree
gave
them
shade
and
everything
else,
but
the
only
way
to
do
that
and
to
repair
the
sidewalk,
so
people
could
walk
safely,
would
be
to
remove
the
tree.
H
So
we
deal
with
those
things
every
day
that
every
circumstance
is
different,
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
truly
get
a
handle
with
metric,
I'm
gonna
call
piles
County.
They
also
have
a
lot
of
sidewalks
and
we're
gonna
call
and
check
on
them
and
see
how
they
do
it
if
they
have
a
miracle
that
can
help
us
get
all.
D
H
Well,
I
understand
that,
but
I
and
I
don't
know
you
know
how
many
people
we
would
need
to
be
able
to
keep
up
a
little
bit.
Be
quite
honest
with
you
they're
just
so
much
work
in
that
area
that
we
have
to
do.
We
certainly
try
to
get
the
ones
that
are
the
most
hazardous.
We
go
and
look
at
every
one
of
them.
We'll
get
a
complaint
and
we
look
at
them
and
we
evaluate
it,
and
what
happens
is
is
that
we
that's
what
we
did.
H
We
scheduled
basically
on
the
ones
that
are
the
most
dangerous.
So
if
you
come
out
and
say
well,
I
got
a
little
sidewalk
crack
and
it's
you
know
it
may
be
a
half
inch
up.
Well
that
may
not
it's
dangerous
it's
hazardous,
but
we
may
not
get
around
to
it
because
we're
dealing
with
one
that
maybe
is
a
foot
higher.
B
H
Well,
unfortunately,
they
pay
them
pink
and
then
they,
the
weather,
wears
out
and
then
they're
gone
and
they
have
to
go
and
paint
them
pink
again.
I
mean
the
issue,
is
it'd,
be
nice
to
get
them
fixed
and
be
honestly,
do
you
ask
me
about
resourcing
I
mean
the
city's
bless
that
we
have
so
many
different
departments
to
help
us
with
it,
but
but
we
could
certainly
need
additional
help.
I.
F
G
So
the
response
at
this
time
is
that
we
don't
have.
There
is
not
funding
identified
to
to
install
a
second
one
at
this
time.
So
that
is
a
discussion
that
we
can
have
internally
to
see.
If
that's
something
that
we
may
be
able
to
do
within
this
existing
fiscal
year,
and
it
did
not
explore
looking
at
doing
that
in
the
upcoming
year,
which
would
be
starting
next
October.
First
yeah
we're
also
the
cost.
H
D
H
F
B
I'll,
try
to
keep
it
short,
just
a
long
why's
that
you're
talking
about
all
the
traffic.
The
congestion
from
the
four
thousand
I
know
they've
done
a
ton
of
work
on
this
project,
but
if
they're,
not
thinking
about
the
roads,
the
exhaust
of
the
pollution,
the
environmental
issues
and
just
where
you're
gonna
put
all
these
people
and
if
the
people
can't
get
here
with
mass
transportation
or
whatever
method
you're
coming
up
with
that,
it
doesn't
sound
like
they've,
come
up
with
the
how
to
move
these
people.
B
It's
not
like
the
different
events,
so
we
have
like
the
five
regular
ones
where
people
are
used
to
that.
This
is
more
frequent
if
those
people
can't
get
down
here.
What's
that
gonna
do
to
people
wanting
to
come
here
if
they
don't
have
parking,
if
they
can't
they're,
just
gonna
go
what's
the
point,
so
they
should
be
thinking
about
that
and
they
should
be
thinking
about
how
to
get
them
here.
F
F
B
F
B
F
D
But
they're
still
it's
an
ongoing
and
we've
heard
about
that,
as
well
as
the
the
250
parking
spots
they
have
for
the
park
and
so
forth.
There
was
a
working
session
if
I'm,
not
mistaken,
was
it
this
week
or
last
week,
specifically
with
the
council
on
imagine
clear
waters
where
I'm
certain
these
things
are
not.
There
are
people
that
are
addressing
them
to
figure
out.
What's
the
best
way
to
address
the
problem
now,
let's
hope
they
come
up
with
a
good
solution.