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D
Well,
that's
true:
we
don't
have
Roberto
glasskey
began
her
career
with
the
city
of
Clearwater
on
December,
the
3rd
1984.
In
the
detective
bureau
at
the
police
department,
she
was
promoted
several
times
to
various
departments
throughout
her
career
with
the
city.
She
is
currently
a
development
review
specialist
in
the
geographic
Technology
section
within
the
engineering
department.
D
Roberto
demonstrates
her
dedication
to
the
city
by
serving
on
the
pension
advisory
election
committee,
the
achievement
awards
committee
and
the
health
benefits
committee.
Roberta
has
been
an
extremely
valuable
employee,
her
professional
manner
and
assistance
to
the
public.
Her
attention
to
detail
and
her
knowledge
and
site
plan
review
and
the
building
permitting
process
make
Roberta
an
outstanding
asset
to
the
engineering
department
and
the
city
of
Clearwater.
She
always
has
a
smile
and
projects,
a
positive
attitude
with
energy
and
enthusiasm.
She
is
always
willing
to
assist
her
co-workers
whenever
she
can,
with
various
types
of
permitting
questions.
D
Roberta
takes
pride
and
guiding
customers
through
the
permit
process
to
ensure
that
they
get
to
the
right
people
and
have
a
successful
experience
with
the
city.
We
are
proud
of
Roberta's
accomplishments,
of
attaining
35
years
of
employment
with
the
city
of
Clearwater,
and
congratulate
her
in
reaching
this
wonderful
milestone
in
her
career
Thank
You
Roberta
for
the
many
years
of
outstanding
service
to
the
city
of
Clearwater.
D
Ricky
rouse
successfully
managed
the
implementation
of
a
thirty
thousand
dollar
upgrade
to
new
rekt
rekt
software.
This
software
is
the
backbone
of
parks
and
recreations
athletics
and
Recreation
programming
divisionary.
It
is
used
for
ball
field
permits
tennis
court
registrations
and
to
schedule
field
maintenance
in
our
recreation
centers
it
tracks
registration
for
classes,
number
and
locations
of
user
visits,
and
is
used
to
pay
instructors
for
a
number
of
registrants
per
class.
Upgrading
the
system
to
a
web-based
platform.
D
The
new
version
introduced
many
efficiencies,
increased
accessibility
and
new
features
for
our
city
residents,
such
attributes
as
browsing
programs
and
classes
and
other
facilities
with
over
100
city,
employee
users
across
six
recreation,
centers
and
thousands
of
resident
end
users
about
the
transition
to
a
new
web
base,
a
new
web-based
system.
The
implementation
had
to
be
carefully
timed
and
choreographed,
coordinating
closely
with
ite,
as
well
as
countless
Parks
and
Recreation
employees
ricky
oversaw
a
nearly
seamless
upgrade.
D
This
included
scheduling
an
entire
week
of
trainings
for
the
software
manufacturer
to
cover
all
of
the
employees
that
use
the
system.
Ricky
had
the
Excel
idea
to
record
video
of
the
trainings
so
that
future
new
employees
will
have
access
to
the
original
material
and
not
anecdotal,
pass
down
information.
All
of
this
required
working
many
extra
hours,
in
addition
to
his
regular
duties
all
while
his
team
was
short-staffed
for
showing
extraordinary
dedication
and
patience,
were
providing
unfailing
support
and
responsiveness
to
his
fellow
employees
and
for
being
an
exemplary
city.
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Good
morning,
trustees,
jay
ravens
finance
director.
This
item
is
a
request
to
approve
a
revised
investment
policy
for
the
plans
pension
investments.
The
investment
policy
was
last
updated
in
June
of
2016,
with
the
assistance
of
the
plans,
investment
consultant
and
a
review
by
the
pension
attorney.
The
committee
has
completed
the
review
and
is
submitting
the
revised
policy
for
your
approval
change.
Just
changes
to
the
policy
included,
moving
the
roles
and
responsibilities
section
from
the
latter
half
of
the
policy
to
the
front
of
the
policy
to
emphasize
the
SEC's.
J
J
The
policies
reference
to
the
7%
assumed
rate
of
return
was
modified
to
be
whatever
the
current
actuarial.
Assumption
is
names
of
aggregate
bond
and
real
estate
indexes
were
updated
for
current
names
and
finally,
new
language
was
added
for
performance
measurement
of
alternative
investments
such
as
our
infrastructure
investments
to
recognize
the
non-traditional.
Nature
of
alternatives
be
happy
to.
C
J
You,
as
you
recall,
we've
had
a
7%
assumed
rate
of
return
for
some
time.
We
had
that
hard-coded
in
the
policy
to
be
some
a
7%
assumed
rate
of
return.
Now
that
we're
lowering
our
rate
of
return.
Currently,
it's
six
point:
seven,
five
percent
we're
going
to
be
lowering
it
to
six
and
a
half.
We've
just
made
the
policy
flexible,
so
it
doesn't
have
to
be
updated
every
time
we
change
our
assumed
rate
of
return
and.
C
J
J
The
most
recent
actuarial
assumption
we
were
104
percent
funded.
We're
currently
have
another
actuarial
assumption
or
actuarial
study
done,
as
of
September
30th
2019.
So
we'll
see
what
we're
that
gives
us
as
we
lower
the
assumed
rate
of
return.
It's
expected
we
may
dip
below
100%,
but
hopefully
we
can
get
back
above
about
a
hundred
percent
as
everything's
dependent
on
the
investment
markets
and
the
returns
that
we
received.
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D
Thank
You
mayor
amend
the
clipart,
a
Code
of
Ordinances
chapter
25,
public
transportation
carriers
particle
one
public
conveyances
to
define
commercial
megacycles
and
definitions
to
establish
standards
or
commercial
megacycles.
You'll
require
a
license
for
commercial
megacycles
to
be
operated
in
the
city
and
to
add
penalties
and
pass
the
appropriate
ordinance
on
first
reading.
Mr.
Haley.
L
Good
morning,
Council
Jim
Helios
assistant
to
the
city
manager,
the
item
that
we
have
for
you
today
to
the
ordinance
for
megacycles
as
council
recalls
the
work
session
or
not
part
of
me.
At
the
council
meeting
on
December
5th,
we
brought
an
item
for
you
in
Council
by
this
direction
to
modify
the
item
and
come
back
to
permit
megacycles
operating
on
north
and
south
beach.
There
are
maps
attached
to
this
agenda
item,
as
we
have
drawn
them
out.
L
The
overall
goal,
as
I
work
with
Matt
Smith,
was
to
maintain
these
vehicles
in
primarily
commercial
thoroughfares,
and
keep
them
off
of
residential
streets,
because
that
they're
gonna
be
a
primarily
commercial
enterprise
and
utilized
in
that
way
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Should
you
have
any.
H
H
I
was
wondering
what
the
thought
process
was
there,
rather
than
allowing
it
to
traverse
all
the
way
to
the
north
end
of
Beach
walk
and
therefore
be
engaged
in
the
traffic
light
being
able
to
use
the
traffic
light
for
the
right
turn
to
stay
on
the
south
end
of
the
beach
not
to
traverse
any
further
north,
but
to
at
least
have
the
traffic
light
to
help
them
make
the
right
turn
or
whatever
traverse.
We.
L
Can
look
at
change
of
that?
My
concern
and
staff's
concern
was
that
allowing
it
to
be
in
that
area
and
may
result
in
them
taking
the
left,
turn
and
heading
into
the
roundabout
area
just
by
giving
them
giving
the
operator
the
ability
to
go
in
that
area?
Can
we
restrict,
if
they
take
a
left
or
right,
I
mean
again
that.
H
If
we
don't
allow
the
operator
to
make
that
left
turn
and
they
make
that
left,
turn
they're
gonna
get
in
trouble
and
they
might
not
be
able
to
have
their
business
any
longer.
The
way
I
look
at
that,
so
that
we
know
they're
not
allowed
to
make
that
left
turn
that
would
be
mine.
That
would
be
my
understanding.
H
A
C
You
the
better
because
that's
where
the
congestion
comes
up
comes
in,
you
also
have
people
who
are
coming
in
their
parking
lot,
who
make
left-hand
turns
that
aren't
supposed
to
be
making.
You
know
left-hand
turns
from
the
pier
60
parking
lot,
so
III
I
agreement
Stefan
with
the
staff
recommendation
on
them.
I.
A
H
C
L
Mayor
the
goal
also
to-
and
we
can
look
to
adjust
that,
but
the
goal
to
have
them
on
Hamden
is
to
alleviate
that
the
congestion
of
having
them
restricted
to
those
two
areas.
So
but
again
it
is
residential
area.
So
we
could
look
at
having
that
eliminated
and
restricted
to
just
South
Gulf
be
bulevar
de
Coronado
as
well.
A
L
And
the
thought
would
be
the
reason
why
that
was
left
in
there.
Should
there
be
development
on
the
11
rocks
property
over
there
to
see.
If
they
were,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
again
for
future
use.
We
could
always
go
back
and
look
to
him
in
that,
but
that's
why
that
was
included
just
to
to
be
able
to
have
the
should
one
need,
but.
D
The
mayor
and
council,
you
all
are
driving
this
this
this
route,
so
Thursday
night.
You
just
need
to
agree
on
where
you
want
it
to
go.
It's
difficult
for
us
who
trying
to
advocate
for
something
we
didn't
advocate
to
begin
with
it.
So
if
you
all
have
some
some
strong
views
about
it,
then
you
know,
if
you
all,
would
kind
of
work
that
out
today
and
Thursday
that'd
be
helpful,
so
you
can.
H
I
think,
like
I
said
this
is
a
six-month
trial
to
start
with,
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
coming
up
on
the
lever
ox
property
in
the
next
six
months.
There's
no
need
to
go
south
technically
east
of
one
of
the
same
key
bridge
comes
over
as
far
as
Hamlin
the
same
argument
that
we're
using
here
on
the
south
end,
even
though
there's
new
developments
happening
on
Hamden,
the
fron
Hamlin
in
the
next
six
months.
I,
don't
know
that
they're
gonna
be
to
the
point
that
there
might
be
an
opportunity
on
Hamden
as
well.
I
Don't
see
Hampton
as
being
a
problematic
Street,
because
it's
not
it
used
as
much
but
I
know
that
jimmies.
You
know
you
were
talking
about
not
allowing
him
to
turn
left
that
connection
point
to
Hamden
and
Coronado
up
by
Jimmy's.
Probably
they
would
go
there,
especially
with
a
new
hotel
and
everything.
So
I
see
that
as
I
like
to
see
that
kept
in
there
I.
H
C
H
I'm
kind
of
of
the
I'm
looking
at
it
from
the
total
180
degree
difference
there.
It's
a
six-month
trial
by
not
limiting
the
hours
operation,
we'll
get
him
we'll
get
a
better
feel
as
to
exactly
what
the
impact
it's
having
on.
If
it
is
I,
don't
want
to
take
action
on
a
what,
if,
if
that,
what,
if
isn't
gonna
materialize,
so
I
think
I'd
rather
have
the
six
months
without
hours
of
operation
restriction,
and
then
once
we
go
through
the
process,
we'll
have
data
to
decide
hours
of
operation.
I
C
C
Y'all
are
dismissed,
you
know,
Mike,
the
place
doesn't
drive,
traffic
congestion,
y'all
are
dismissing
the
impact.
This
is
gonna
have
on
traffic
congestion
on
the
beach
you're,
dismissing
the
impact
that
staff
and
especially
the
police
department,
has
made
on
the
impact
this
is
gonna
have
on
the
overall,
the
overall
intent
of
the
beach
and
the
family
orientation
of
our
Beach,
but
we'll
see
what
happens
any
other.
Okay.
M
I
just
wanted
to
bring
to
the
council's
attention
that
the
way
that
the
Florida
statute
is
written,
it
specifically
says
that
I
believe
it's
316
point
1936,
which
is
the
open
alcohol
statute,
and
they
say
that
specifically
does
not
apply
to
passengers
that
are
on
these
fennel
bulbs.
However,
I
did
put
in
what
it
doesn't
say
is
that
you
can't
have
alcohol
just
says
the
best
specific
statute
doesn't
apply,
so
what
I've
done
is
I've
put
in
that
our
section
we
have
up.
M
We
have
a
similar
ordinance
at
section
six
point
three
one
of
our
code,
so
that's
right
in
there
and
that's
in
Section,
25
point
O
two
paragraph
five
and
that's
the
paragraph
that
addresses
the
passengers.
So
it's
it's
our
opinion
that
you
can
restrict
alcohol,
but
I
just
wanted
to
counsel
I'm.
Sorry
I
wanted
to
warn
council
that
you
might
have
people
to
come
in
that
want
to
operate
these
fennel
plugs
and
they
say
well
wait
a
second.
N
Currently,
as
drafted,
we
do
not
allow
alcohol
and
that's
just
to
make
sure
that
you're
aware
that
we
would
not
allow
alcohol
to
be
served
or
to
be
drunk
on.
But
you
may
get
people
who
absolutely
want
to
do
that
and
if
you
chose
to
do
that,
you
could
it
would
require
us
to
change
our
city
ordinance.
However,
so.
H
M
C
D
Declare
surplus
for
the
purpose
of
donation
for
development
of
affordable
housing,
two
parcels
of
real
property
located
at
10:02,
LaSalle,
Street
and
1011
LaSalle
Street
approved
the
real
property
donation
agreement
between
the
city
and
Habitat
for
Humanity
of
Pinellas
County
Inc
and
authorized
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
same
together
with
all
other
instruments
required
to
effect.
Closing
mr.
Lane.
O
Thank
You
chuckling
housing
department.
These
two
properties
are
located
in
clear
waters:
North
Korean
wood
neighborhood
on
the
south
street
between
North
Martin
Luther,
King,
jr.,
Avenue
and
Pennsylvania
Avenue.
The
city
acquired
both
Lots
in
lieu
of
collecting
a
debt
on
housing
liens.
The
properties
are
both
identified
on
the
city's
list
of
city-owned
properties.
There
may
be
available
for
fordable
housing
council
approved
that
list
in
June
earlier
this
year,
Habitat
for
Humanity
will
build
a
Cinna
family
home
on
each
lot.
I
I
O
H
Gamelin
this
question
cover
relates
to
this
item
and
the
next
item,
because
the
next
item
is
a
different
organization:
that's
gonna
be
building,
though
what
is
the
economic
requirement
habitat
for
ownership
versus
the
next
item.
I
know
the
up.
The
next
item
allows
a
hundred
and
twenty
percent
of
area
median
income.
What
is
what
is
habitat
habitat.
O
Their
own
rule
restricts
them
to
eighty
percent
of
area,
median
income
and
below
so
we're
donating
both
we're
donating
all
the
properties.
Our
charter
allows
donation
for
affordable
housing
and
that
property
to
be
built
to
120
percent
of
area
median
income.
Our
merge
doesn't
have
them
and
that's
the
next
and
have
that
requirement.
So
they're
gonna
build
it
a
higher
income-
oh
and
it's
nice,
to
get
that
diversity
of
income
in
when
we
can.
D
Dick
declare
surplus
for
the
purpose
of
donation
for
development
of
affordable
housing,
real
property
located
at
912
Nicholson
Street
approved
the
real
property
donation
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
merger,
Community
Economic
Development
Corporation
and
authorized
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
same
together
with
all
other
instruments
required
to
affect
closing
mr.
Lane
again,
this.
O
Property
is
also
north.
We
know
in
North
Greenwood
it's
west
of
the
North
Korean
word
Recreation
Center
on
Nicholson
Street.
This
project
will
be
with
emerge,
Community,
Economic,
Development,
Corporation
and,
as
mentioned
earlier,
they
build
a
home
for
sale
to
a
homeowner
that
is
at
or
below
120
percent
of
area.
Median
income
and
I'll
take
questions
any.
C
D
O
On
December
31st
of
each
year,
the
city
is
required
to
submit
the
caper
to
HUD,
which
was
the
United
States
Department
of
Housing
and
Urban
Development.
The
report
outlines
the
city's
programs
and
activities
and
provides
an
accounting
of
all
activities
undertaken
by
the
city
and
its
suburbs.
Cyprian
partners.
Listen,
of
course,
is
a
report
of
the
federal
expenditures
of
Community
Development,
Block,
Grant
funding
and
home
investment
partnership
program.
O
We
carried
over
nearly
one
point:
four
million
dollars
in
prior
year
funds.
This
number
also
includes
funds
remaining
from
prior
projects
that
were
either
cancelled
or
withdrawn
by
the
applicant.
During
the
course
of
the
year,
we
received
approximately
from
one
hundred
and
thirty
one
thousand
dollars
in
program
income
and
that's
primarily
generated
from
home
program
activities
to
loans
made
to
homeowners,
nonprofit
agencies
and
developers.
We
also
have
a
revolving
loan
fund
that
we
can
use
for
Housing
and
Economic
Development
activities.
O
O
Aside
from
the
federal
funds,
the
city
also
expended
over
nine
hundred
thirty
thousand
dollars
in
state
housing,
initiative,
partnership
program
funds
and
the
Pinellas
County
Housing
Trust
Fund,
as
we've
done
it
for
the
last
several
years.
We
also
provided
a
total
of
two
hundred
and
thirty-five
thousand
dollars
in
general
funds
to
partner
agencies
to
help
us
carry
out
our
homeless
initiative,
but
we
use
home
funds
on
a
housing
project
were
required
to
provide
a
25
percent
non-federal
match.
O
We
use
ship
and
county
trust
fund
money
for
this
match
in
1819,
our
match
requirement
was
a
hundred
and
seventy
eight
thousand
dollars.
I'd,
also
like
to
note
that
we
can
build
a
banked
match
from
our
partners
activity
activities.
For
example,
the
cash
equivalent
of
volunteer
hours
put
put
towards
a
home
construction
project
can
be
used
as
future
home
match.
All
the
funds
we
put
towards
housing
are
intended
to
leverage
private
funds,
our
expenditures
with
the
federal
funds
alone,
leverage
nearly
seven
hundred
seventy
thousand
dollars
in
private
investment.
O
Our
community
development
and
housing
programs
are
all
about
providing
assistance
to
people
and
to
families.
This
slide
gives
you
an
idea
as
to
where
we're
getting
the
most
bang
for
our
buck.
Our
partnership
for
public
service
providers
certainly
cast
the
largest
net
in
next
fiscal
year,
we'll
be
trying
to
expand
our
economic
development
program
and
with
a
few
multifamily
projects.
Currently
in
the
planning
stages,
I
think
you'll
see
an
increase
in
the
number
of
households
served
in
the
coming
years.
O
And
this
slide
shows
you
the
number
of
people
and
households
we
assisted
through
the
state
and
local
funds.
As
you
all
know,
we
couldn't
say
the
number
of
people
we
serve
without
partnerships.
These
are
our
public
service
partners.
They
play
a
vital
role
in
assisting
and
carrying
out
the
programs
providing
services
to
our
community.
Rcs
Pinellas
provides
a
wide
range
of
services
in
Clearwater,
homeless.
Emergency
project,
also
known
as
homeless
empowerment
program,
has
been
a
valued
city
partner
for
many
years.
Mattie
Williams,
neighborhood,
Family
Center,
serves
a
range
of
needs
to
clear
motor
residents.
O
Westcare
Gulf
Coast
provides
substance,
abuse
services,
Gulf
Coast
legal
services
represents
tenants
facing
fair
housing
issues.
Pinellas
Opportunity,
Council's,
Shore
Services
program
primarily
helps
elderly
people
no
longer
able
to
care
for
their
own
home
and
in
intercultural
advocacy.
Institute,
also
known
as
the
Hispanic
Outreach
Center
provides
youth
programs
and
intensive
family
support.
Many
of
these
many
of
these
service
providers
have
become
staples
in
our
community.
O
We
fund
homebuyer
education
at
$70
per
person
per
class,
Clearwater
Neighborhood,
Housing
Services,
the
Tampa
Bay
Community
Development
Services
have
been
providing.
These
services
include
water
for
several
years,
housing.
An
education
Alliance
joined
us
this
year
as
well,
and
we
153
clearwater
residents
one
through
this
one
through
this
program
in
1819.
O
These
are
our
partners
with
our
micro
micro
enterprise
and
public
facilities,
programs,
Tampa
Bay,
black
business
investment
corporation
and
Prospero,
provide
technical
assistance
to
business
owners
and
hopeful
entrepreneurs.
We
use
CDBG
to
fund
a
facility
improvement
at
our
club
on
Whitney
Road.
We
funded
an
HVAC
replacement
at
st.
O
Vincent
DePaul
commissioned
community
kitchen
and
Resource
Center
they're,
making
some
strong
progress
with
their
job
training
program,
and
we
began
a
solar
installation
project
which
was
completed
in
the
current
fiscal
year
for
the
arc
of
Tampa,
Bay
and
I
have
some
pictures
of
projects
we
funded
with
directions
for
living
in
hgp.
This
is
at
directions
for
living
main
facility
on
Belcher
Road
in
Clearwater.
They
transformed
what
was
an
underutilized
storage
area
and
turn
it
into
a
conference
room
and
training
center.
O
Our
housing
partners
support
financial
services,
developed
woodland
trail
lately
stood
up
earlier
this
year,
just
in
the
last
couple
months,
an
ad
unit
project
in
our
Lake
Bellevue
neighborhood
Madison
Point,
another
80
unit
senior
project
over
55
just
recently
leased
a
community
services
foundation,
leased
up
seven
units
in
the
Lake
Bellevue
neighborhood,
the
project
known
as
team
and
village.
This
is
a
housing
project
where
they
provide
low-cost
housing
to
non-traditional
households,
primarily
getting
unsheltered
people
housed.
O
So
they
began
to
separate
less
than
a
year
ago
and
they've
been
successful
in
housing,
19
unsheltered
previously
on
shelter
people,
so
here
are
two
homes
at
Habitat
for
Humanity
constructed
on
North,
Garden
Avenue.
This
is
just
up
the
road
from
the
12
unit
project
completed
in
the
previous
year,
and
we
have
some
projects
that
have
begun
and
will
be
completed
in
the
next
year.
So
five
single
family
homes
are
either
under
construction
or
awaiting
construction
all
are
with
habitat.
O
In
addition,
with
my
two
previous
items
this
morning,
staff
has
recommended
the
transfer
of
three
vacant
laws
for
the
construction
of
three
new
homes
in
North
Greenwood.
We
have
four
month.
We
have
for
rehabilitation,
home
Realty
rehabilitation
projects
in
process
right
now
and
we're
also
in
the
planning
stages
on
some
exciting
multifamily
rental
projects.
O
Advisory
Committee,
they
passed
a
motion
unanimously
unanimously,
recommend
and
council
approval
of
the
caper
HUD
requires
a
15-day
public
comment
period
prior
to
submitting
the
caper
we're
in
that
period.
Right
now,
December
19th
is
the
last
day
of
that
comment
period.
So
anyone
wishing
to
review
the
document
that's
available
at
my
clear
walk
from
my
clue
or
TOCOM-
slash,
affordable
housing
and
a
hard
copy
is
available
for
viewing
at
the
housing
division
offices,
600,
Cleveland
Street,
on
the
sixth
floor,
and
that
concludes
my
presentation.
Any.
C
O
C
O
Our
CDBG
funds
are
much
more
flexible
and
go
well
beyond
housing
and
the
line
share
of
the
CDBG
money
we
use
is
put
towards
Community
Development,
and
a
lot
of
that
is
homeless
services.
It's
chore,
services
itself
goes
legal.
These
are
a
lot
of
these
are
not
really
housing
related
services
that
we
were
able
to
provide.
C
D
P
D
J
Morning,
mayor
and
council
members
jay
ravens
finance
director.
This
item
is
requesting
council
approval
of
an
agreement
for
rate
study
consultant
services
for
the
gas
utility
for
the
next
five
years
in
the
not
to
exceed
amount
of
one
hundred
and
eighty
four
thousand
dollars.
The
last
gas
rate
study
was
completed
in
2014,
and
council
policy
requires
a
rate
study
at
least
every
five
years
rfp
58
19
was
issued
and
we
received
three
responses.
J
Ref
Telus
financial
consultants
was
selected
by
the
suction
committee.
Ref
Telus
has
valuable
experience
performing
similar
rate
studies
for
other
municipal
gas
utilities.
The
five-year
agreement
includes
plans
for
up
to
three
rate
studies.
The
not
to
exceed
request
includes
twenty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
of
contingency
for
optional
rate
study
meetings,
as
well
as
hourly
consultant
over
the
five
year
period,
if
needed,.
D
Q
C
C
C
H
D
Point
four
authorize:
a
sole
source
of
award
for
a
renewal
subscription
to
the
I,
so
playing
search
for
non
insurance
database,
effective
January,
1
2020
through
December
31st
2024,
not
to
exceed
total
of
$15,000,
where
the
annual
membership
fee
and
as
needed
claim
search
fees
pursuant
to
clause
row.
This
is
section
two
point:
five,
six
four
one
B
and
authorize
their
permit
officials
to
actually
do
the
same.
Mister,
oh
sorry,.
R
Thank
You
mr.
Horne
good
morning,
everyone
reckless
oriole
risk
manager.
The
risk
management
division
would
like
to
renew
its
current
agreement,
approved
by
City
Council
in
2019
and
continuous
participation.
As
a
member
of
the
ISO
claim
search
database
with
casualty
and
claims
inquiry,
the
stated
base
is
shared
by
most
insurance
companies,
third-party
administrators
and
municipalities
in
the
industry
who
administer
claims.
It
is
a
single
source
provider
of
the
service.
Its
reputation
and
quality
of
partner
well
known
in
the
industry,
is
what
web-based
search
and
report
tools
particularly
effective
in
identifying
professional
claimants.
R
R
R
They
provide
history
of
injuries,
people
who
have
fought
claims
against
the
city
and
it's
an
effective
tool
in
finding
out
if
they've
had
previous
injuries.
If
they've
had
previous
settlements
disabilities
within
third,
when
their
attorneys
file
demands
against
the
city,
then
what
we
do
is
we
contact
the
previous
entities,
we'll
settle
with
them,
find
out
what
injuries
they
had,
which
may
be
the
same
that
we're
managing
and
use
that
as
part
of
our
negotiation,
it's
a
very,
very
effective
tool
and.
M
D
S
Morning,
Brian
Langille
assistant
director
for
clear
water
gas
system.
This
is
a
crossing
agreement
with
CSX
along
State
Road
50.
They
are.
The
state
is
doing
a
road
widening
project
on
that
road
right
now,
so
we
need
to
relocate
our
gas
line.
So
therefore,
we
need
to
enter
into
a
new
agreement
with
them
for
this
crossing.
The
legal
has
reviewed
all
the
provisions
of
the
agreement
and
it's
consistent
with
prior
agreements
that
we've
entered
into
with
CSX
any
questions
on
6.1.
C
D
Accept
a
natural
gas
easement
over
under
across
history
fortune
property
conveyed
by
nmp
Bexley
LLC,
whose
principal
address
is
777,
South,
Harbor,
Island,
Boulevard,
Tampa
Florida,
given
in
consideration
of
receipt
of
$1
and
the
benefits
to
be
derived
therefrom
and
adopt
the
appropriate
resolution.
Mr.
Lee
Gilligan.
S
This
is
a
long
Dakota
Road
in
Pasco
County,
it's
it's
north
of
state
of
54.
This
has
three
segments
to
it:
the
easement
there
in
the
diagram
that
are
attached
to
the
agenda
item.
This
is
to
allow
us
to
extend
our
gas
line
a
long
time
out
to
serve
the
del
Webb
subdivision
and,
ultimately
future
subdivisions
downstream
of
there.
This
is
an
item
that
we've
brought
to
you
right
now:
we're
providing
CNG
to
that
subdivision
until
we
get
these
easements
accepted
and
approved,
and
then
we
can
run
our
line
to
that
subdivision.
D
Except
the
natural
gas
season
is
over
under
across
and
through
a
portion
of
property
conveyed
by
Brian
Craig
Bexley
successor
trustee
of
the
Beck
Slayer
ranch
Land
Trust,
whose
principal
address
is
post
office
box
10.
Some
trivia
Florida
given
in
consideration,
never
received
a
$1
and
the
benefits
to
be
derived
therefrom
and
adopt
the
appropriate
resolution.
D
S
T
C
D
U
You,
mr.
Horne
good
morning,
mayor
and
council
Chris
Cook
Special,
Events,
Manager,
Parks
and
Recreation,
we
received
a
request
from
the
Clearwater
high
school
civil
rights
ambassadors
about
this
event,
they're
bringing
together
high
school
students
from
around
the
around
the
county
to
do
a
memorial
walk
as
well
as
an
event
at
coachmen
Park,
one
additional
change
since
since
this
was
made,
we
worked
with
the
police
department
and
the
organizers
and
there's
gonna
be
some
cost
reduction
on
the
police
side.
U
U
D
Yes,
but
the
kids
hadn't
right,
they
have
approached
the
school
leadership
with
with
wanting
to
do
this
yeah,
they
did
invite
me
to
a
meeting
and
indicated
that
they
would
like
to
do
the
unity
walk,
which
is
kind
of
symbolic
of
the
the
Pettis
bridge
march
from
Selma
to
Montgomery.
The
number
originally
was
500
students.
It
was
going
to
involve
all
the
high
schools
and
still
will
involve
all
the
high
schools
and
now
the
numbers
up
to
700.
D
It
has
generated
quite
a
bit
of
support
within
the
school
district
for
participation,
so
originally
they
were
going
to
walk
from
Station
Square
Park
to
coachmen,
but
the
kiss
of
the
symbolism
of
a
bridge.
That's
why
they
requested
that
we
involved
cause
we've
written
some
way.
Okay,
that's!
Well!
You
have
the
change.
Okay,.
A
D
C
D
C
C
H
H
D
This
is
kind
of
how
it
worked.
The
the
students
at
Clover,
High
School,
came
up
with
this
idea.
They
went
to
the
principal
the
principal
said:
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
They
went
to
the
school
district
think
about
all
of
the
appropriate
coordination
approved,
you're,
absolutely
right.
The
school
district
is
going
to
provide
busing.
You
know
all
those
kinds
of
things
all
we're
doing
is
providing
the
site.
H
D
Authorize
a
purchase
order
to
Angelo's,
recycle
materials
of
st.
Petersburg
Florida
debris
disposal;
that's
your
trash
class,
three
and
construction
and
demolition
debris
and
the
not
to
exceed
amount
of
$275,000
for
the
period
of
December,
1
2019
through
September
30
2021,
with
one
additional
two
year
renewal
term
and
an
annual
not
to
exceed
amount
of
$150,000
at
the
city's
discretion.
Pursuant
to
Clarence
is
section
two
point:
five,
six
for
1d
cooperative
contracts
and
authorize
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
things
to
do
it
good.
W
W
Of
the
reason
is
the
location:
the
county
is
a
lot
longer
the
track.
As
far
as
the
specific
financial
questions
I
can
have.
Our
purchasing
staff
come
up
to
answer.
You
know
more
specific
questions
as
far
as
the
dollar
amounts
go,
but
certainly
the
location
of
it
compared
to
the
dump
is
critical.
When
you
add
in
the
cost
of
vehicles,
fuel
and
man-hours
that
we
lose
and
having
that
extra
trip
time,
that's.
W
C
X
Good
morning,
my
name
is
Roy
Vogel
I'm,
the
interim
procurement
manager
to
touch
base
on
this
sorry.
This
is
my
first
council
meeting
to
touch
base
on
this.
The
city
of
Largo
came
to
us
and
the
city
of
Dunedin
to
put
this
cooperative
bid
together,
and
so
we
gave
them
our
numbers
solid
wasted
and
therefore,
when,
when
they
put
out
the
bid,
the
respondents
angela
was
the
lowest
respondent
to
that
cooperative
bid.
A
D
Award
of
invitation
to
bid
zero
three
days,
twenty
landscaping,
maintenance
services
to
botanical
dimensions,
Dean's,
environmental
earth,
designs,
Gamco
properties,
triple
m
property,
maintenance
and
valley
crest
landscape
during
a
nine
month,
not
to
exceed
amount.
A
$500,000
for
the
period
of
January
1
2020
through
September
30th
2020,
with
the
option
of
two
one-year
term
extensions
and
authorizing
purple
officials
to
execute
saying
mister.
Do
it
thank.
W
You,
sir,
this
is
our
landscape
maintenance
contract.
You
may
or
may
not
know
that
our
internal
staff
currently
maintained
109
properties
throughout
the
city.
There
is
an
additional
700
plus
sites
and
growing
throughout
the
city
which
includes
medians
roundabouts
parcels
that
you
may
deem
it
as
from
the
best
interest
of
the
city
to
purchase
all
of
those
properties.
The
new
fire
station
property
on
Hercules,
for
example,
as
those
properties
come
on.
It's
our
responsibility
to
make
sure
that
they're
maintained-
and
this
is
the
contract
that
we
use
to
help
facilitate
that
any.
C
Questions
of
staff
at
seven
point
three,
mr.
DeWitt
clarify
because
you
know
one
of
the
complaints
that
we
hear
all
the
time
and
we've
had
people
come
even
before
council.
You
know
saying
you
know
I'll
look
at
this
part.
You
know
they
didn't
do
a
good
job
in
maintaining
it
and
more
often
than
not
it's
it's,
not
our
employees.
It's
one
of
these
contract
correct.
W
C
Again,
clarified
that
these
contracts
are
going
to
cover
700
additional
properties,
for
if
we
were
to
do
it
ourselves,
we
would
need
more
employees,
possibly
absolutely
become
more
costly
for
us
to
do
that.
Okay,
so
how?
When
we
have
an
incident
that
comes
to
your
attention
or
our
attention
that
the
property
isn't
being
maintained,
you
know
or
needs
to
more
care.
What
do
we
do
you?
Just
the
contract,
allow
us
to
go
back
to
the
to
the
contractor
and
say:
hey:
you
need
to
go
back
or
yeah.
W
We
actually
have
numerous
options:
I
have
four
staff
members
that
oversee
these
contracts
to
include
a
manager
or
supervisor
and
two
employees.
So
what
we
do
in
a
situation
like
that
is
we
go
out
and
put
our
eyes
on
it
more
often
than
not
oftentimes
the
the
quality
complaints
that
come
in
are
actually
easily
deferred.
If
you
will
by
but
the
cut
schedule,
every
property
is
listed,
a
certain
cut
schedule.
So
let
me
give
you
a
perfect
example.
Most
of
us
cut
our
yards
during
the
summer,
for
example,
once
a
week.
W
Well,
we
have
properties
that
have
been
deemed
because
of
their
level
of
use,
to
have
a
every
two
weeks
cut
schedule,
for
example.
So
when
somebody
goes
right
by
and
sees
the
the
property
and
sees
that
the
grass
is
taller
than
perhaps
the
way
they
take
care
of
their
own
house,
it
causes
the
concern.
So
it's
not
that
the
contractor
didn't
do
their
job.
It's
just
that's
the
level
that's
been
determined
by
the
cuts
schedule
for
that
particular
property.
D
C
The
reason
I
asked
is
because
we
hear
all
the
time
all
well
yeah.
This
isn't
done
right
or
this
is,
and
you
know
people
don't
understand
what
you
said-
the
different
cut
schedules
in
whatever
and
I
and
I
know,
especially
during
this
time
of
year.
You
know
work
say
well,
you
know,
Parks
and
Rec
isn't
doing
its
its
job
and
actually
it
is
doing
its
job.
Yeah.
W
C
Y
D
Point
for
authorized
award
of
request
for
proposal,
31
desk
19,
special
events,
production
services
to
American
mobile,
staging
of
Shem,
Birds,
Illinois
and
RCS
corporation
of
Clearwater
Florida
in
the
annual
not
to
exceed
amount
of
$100,000
with
three
one-year
renewal
options
at
the
city's
discretion
and
authorize
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
sang
cook
again.
Thank.
U
You,
sir
good
morning
again,
Marion
Council,
Chris,
Cook
events
and
I
thought
expenditure
of
Parks
and
Recreation.
This
rfp
purchasing
item
allows
us
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
than
we've
had
in
the
past.
The
two
the
two
companies
listed
RCS
as
well
as
American
mobile,
staging
specialize
in
different
types
of
stages.
Historically,
we've
we've
used
the
big
jazz
holiday
stage
to
kind
of
give
everybody
an
example
they've
seen
before
by
by
allowing
American
mobile
staging
to
come
in,
they
have
a
lot
of
different
size
options
that
can
be
more
cost-effective
for
us.
U
There's
two
types
of
purchasing
that
we
do.
One
is
for
city
produced
events
which
are
like
the
sea
blues
festival,
Clearwater
celebrates
America,
where
we
add
in
additional
staging,
and
then
there
are
some
reimbursement
events
where
we
may
get
better
pricing
for
them
to
do.
Two
events
like
the
Hispanic
heritage
and
the
Jazz
holiday
and
then
the
Jazz
holiday
would
reimburse
us
in
order
to
save
everybody
a
little
bit
of
money.
U
H
U
And
I
do
want
to
point
out.
We
do
you
guys
authorized
us
to
purchase
a
new
drill,
master
blaster
for
our
city
events
and
for
the
times
where
it's
available.
We
will
use
that
for
most.
This
allows
us
the
opportunity
to
have
another
company
to
use,
if
that,
if
the
show
masters
already
used
for
something
else,
I'm.
K
U
U
C
U
D
A
professional
services
agreement
and
design
work
order
with
one
of
makers:
Jet
Set,
architects
of
st.
Petersburg
Florida
for
the
design
of
fire
station
46
in
the
amount
of
seven
hundred
and
thirty
four
thousand
one
hundred
nine
dollars
and
authorized
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
sane.
She
felt
good.
Z
Morning,
mayor
council,
Scott
others,
fire
chiefs
thought
what
a
fire
rescue
this
agenda
item
before
you
is
request,
approving
an
agreement
with
Wanamaker
Jensen
architects
Inc
for
the
design
of
fire
station.
Forty
six
in
the
North
Beach
area,
in
the
amount
of
seven
hundred
thirty
four
dollars
and
seven
hundred
thirty
four
$109
fire
station.
Z
Refurbishing.
The
current
station,
due
to
the
50%
rule,
would
not
provide
enough
to
redo
the
station
and
bring
it
up
to
where
we
need
it.
The
current
location
does,
however,
meet
our
response
needs
as
well
as
is
well
known
by
all
communities
of
North
Beach,
the
complexity
of
that
location
and
the
various
FEMA
flood
guidelines
and
County
requirements
make
this
project
extremely
difficult
and
the
need
for
us
to
look
outside
for
out-of-the-box
thinking.
We
completed
an
RFQ
several
months
ago
to
find
an
architect
that
fulfill
that
need
does
Wanamaker
Jenson
architects.
Z
It
was
the
ones
that
we
chose
to
meet
that
need.
The
design
is
to
relocate
this
thing
in
the
station
to
the
center
of
the
park
as
seen
while
the
current
station
continues
to
serve
the
public
and,
in
its
actual
spot,
the
design
is
for
a
two
and
a
half
pay
station
one-story
meeting
the
flood
level
requirements
by
elevating
the
base
level.
Once
the
new
station
is
complete,
then
the
old
station
will
be
demolished
and
made
back
into
parkland
with
that
I'm
happy.
C
H
Hamilton
yeah,
you
say
one
story
that
it
will
be
I
mean
to
have
the
dormitory
area
and
everything
else.
Isn't
it
actually
two
levels
inside,
but
the
bays
I
mean
the
bays
are
basically
two
two
stories:
high
anyways
for
the
twelfth.
Z
They'll
build
the
by
County
code
has
got
to
be
on
pilings
right.
So
what
that
looks
like
underneath
is
still
yet
to
be
determined.
It
may
just
be
filled
back
in
and
maybe
utilize
for
something
else,
but
it'll
be
a
one
floor
station,
so
the
apparatus
floor
and
the
dormitory,
the
kitchen
TV
room
will
all
be
on
the
same.
The
same
level.
C
Z
Sir
correct
this
station
is,
unlike
any
other
fire
station,
that
ever
even
seen
in
the
nation,
and
that
is
because
of
the
interaction
it
has
with
its
community,
not
only
the
community
of
North
Beach
and
the
residents
up
there
and
the
community
of
the
businesses
along
Mandalay,
but
that
thousands
of
visitors
have
come
every
year
that
walk
through
that
station.
You
can't
you
can't
be
there
more
than
half
an
hour
and
somebody
will
walk
up
saying
hey.
Do
you
mind
if
I
take
a
picture
of
it
at
the
fire
truck?
Z
Do
you
mind
if
we
trade
patches
or
t-shirts?
It's
it's
phenomenal
to
see,
and
as
soon
as
I
take
that
and
move
the
firefighters
upstairs
or
to
a
multi-level
station.
I've
lost
that
I
have
lost
all
that
interaction
with
the
public
in
the
community,
and
so
that's
why
we
really
wanted
to
look
at
outside
of
the
box
thinking
and
they
want
to
make
our
Johnson
was
everybody
but
able
to
do
that
in
this.
Now
again,
this
is
just
preliminary,
but
this
is
what
this
is
all
about
is
to
try
and
build
upon
that
and.
C
Z
Not
yet
the
Sioux
as
we
proceed
through
it,
we
actually
have
two
identical
paths
going
on
on
the
station.
One
of
them
is
to
work
through
forward
Pinellas
to
rezone
that
area
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
for
the
fire
station,
that's
about
an
eighth
month,
eight
month
project
and
as
wide
Amanda
Jensen
approve.
If
approve
proceeds
with
it,
it's
the
building,
the
design
of
the
architectural
components
of
it.
Hopefully,
the
two
will
meet
on
the
backside
at
about
a
nine-month
component
and
it
will
be
able
to
start
building
average
right
now.
Z
Stations
are,
you
know,
anywhere
about
about
a
year
to
18
months,
to
build
out
so
again
it's
about
two
or
three
years
down
the
road
to
get
vinyl
and
then
once
this
is
built
again,
this
current
station
that
they're
in
and
we
won't
have
a
lack
of
service.
There
will
tear
that
down
and
then
rebuild
that
areas.
Part.
D
To
approve
the
request
from
Edgewater
valor
Capital
LLC
applicant
to
vacate
a
portion
of
a
five
foot,
plaited
utility
easement,
as
recorded
in
Platteville
31,
page
12,
the
public
records
of
Pinellas
County
Florida
and
a
portion
of
a
ten-foot
wide
planet
alley,
as
recorded
in
plot
before
page
56
of
the
public
records
of
Pinellas,
County
Florida
and
past
the
appropriate
ordinance
on
first
reading.
Mr.
Burt,
a.
T
Morning
rock
real
state
coordinator
that
pen
has
requested
to
the
city
vacated
portion
of
a
5-foot
wide
planted
utility
easement
and
a
portion
of
a
10-foot
wide
planted
alley.
Applicants
property
to
the
law,
development
of
an
ad
unit
condominium
complex
as
a
condition
of
the
proposed
vacations.
The
applicant
will
grant
a
10-foot
wide
utility
easement
to
the
city.
All
public
and
private
utilities
shall
be
relocated
by
the
popular
at
its
own
expense,
without
interrupting
service
to
the
Provo
and
acceptance
of
the
utility
owners.
H
Historically,
on
this
site,
specifically
this,
this
easement
vacation
was
approved
previously
for
a
previous
development.
The
development
did
not
take
place
and
therefore
the
vacation
reverted
back.
So
this
is
basically
the
same
thing.
That's
already
been
approved
years
ago,
but
now
it's
being
approved
for
a
different
time
for
current
day,
correct.
T
T
C
D
A
proposal
from
precision
sidewalk
safety
corporation
of
Ocala
Florida
for
sidewalk
grinding
in
the
amount
of
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
accordance
with
Clearwater
for
the
book
of
ordinances.
Section
two
point:
five:
six:
four
one
D
other
government
entities
bids
and
authorized
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute,
saves,
devil,
good.
Y
Morning,
mr.
mayor
council
members,
my
name
is
ben
de
novo,
I'm
with
the
traffic
engineering
department.
This
renewal
contract
is
to
have
precision,
sidewalk
safety
continue.
Removing
trip
hazards
from
raised
sidewalk
panels
identified
by
parks
and
recreation
department,
precision,
sidewalk
safety
corporation
uses
a
special
process
of
cutting
the
trip
hazards,
as
opposed
to
grinding
precision.
Sidewalks
method
over
conventional
demolition
and
replacement
is
a
significant
cost
to
the
city
of
Clearwater.
We've
used
them
in
the
past
with
great
success
with
that
I
could
answer
any
questions
at
this
time.
Any.
C
Questions
of
staff
18.3
remind
us
because
again
there
are
a
lot
of
people
out
walking.
You
know
in
Clearwater
this
time
of
year
and
in
the
next
several
months,
and
we
keep
hearing
oh
I,
tripped
or
I'm
about
to
trip
or
take
pictures
of
sidewalks
that
you
know
aren't
necessarily
even
and
say:
oh
look,
the
city
isn't
doing
a
good
job.
C
D
C
Y
We
finished
the
growth
would
subdivision
as
far
as
the
removal
and
replacement
of
sidewalks
through
there.
We
have
another
car
tractor
that
deals
with
that,
but
as
far
as
the
trip
hazards
that
are
between
quarter
of
inch
high
to
an
inch
and
a
half,
I
have
precision
sidewalks
go
in
there
and
cut
it,
but
presenters
precision
sidewalks
hasn't
gone
through
the
rough
wood
subdivision.
Only
the.
Y
K
You
Mary,
but
it
seems
to
me
mr.
horn,
that
one
since
we
don't
have
staff
that
actually
are
out
there.
You
know
walking
all
the
sidewalks,
but
we
do
have
employees
that
are
out
there
every
day
for
us
since
the
meter
readers
and
they
walk
sidewalks
throughout
the
entire
city
as
I
think
I'm,
aware
of
did
they
report?
Do
we
ever
get
information
from
one
thing.
AA
Tara
cave
and
engineering
director
we
do
have
a
methodology
of
how
we
address
neighborhoods.
First
off,
you
know
we
follow
our
five-year
resurfacing,
so
we
go
in
and
resurface,
then
we'll
come
in
and
look
at
grinding
and
removal
and
replacement
of
damaged
sidewalks,
so
that's
kind
of
how
it
all
works
out.
So
that's
why
it's
done
in
different
phases.
So
we
work
really
closely
with
the
streets
and
sidewalks
Division
of
Parks
and
Rec
and
maintain
a
list
of
complaints
from
residents.
C
You
know
I
hate
to
come
back
with
the
second
round
of
questioning,
but
it
like
when
we
annex
properties,
do
we
check
the
street
and
the
sidewalk
and
let
the
neighbors
know
that
hey
you
know
your
property
is
being
annexed,
but
we're
not
coming
in
to
repave
your
street
immediately
or
we're
not
gonna,
be
able
to
fix
something.
You
know
immediately
because
I've
noticed
some
traffic
on
the
Internet.
AA
Correct
wait:
we
have
a
five
year
plan
and
some
and
we
get
calls-
and
sometimes
we
have
to
say,
I'm
sorry
you're
not
scheduled
to
be
resurfaced
for
seven
years
out.
Sometimes
it's
even
ten
years,
so
we
do
our
best
based
on
a
combination
of
theists
TM
assessments.
We
do
both
structural
and
aesthetics
on
the
different
neighborhoods.
The
volume
that
that
neighborhood
may
have
so
obviously
I
get
a
dad
in
coal
de
sac
may
have
a
lower
priority
because
it
serves
very
few
people
and
the
traffic
volume
is
so
low.
AA
So
we
look
at
all
different
types
of
reasonings
on
how
we
prioritize
our
projects
and
we
try
to
avoid
shuffling
things
around,
because
it
is
more
complicated
than
it
appears.
We
work
with
public
utilities
and
gas
and
stormwater
to
go
in
and
identify
the
infrastructure
before
we
go
in
and
do
a
resurfacing
project.
We
want
to
avoid
resurfacing
and
then
a
year
later,
coming
in
and
doing
a
big,
you
know
sewer
main
replacement
project.
So
all
of
those
factors
help
determine
our
long-range
schedule
for
resurfacing
and
hence
sidewalk
and
curve.
D
Do
specific
to
your
question:
we
do
have
those
conversations,
because
there
are
times
when
the
new
moon
property
owner
and
your
medics
in
they
they
are
expecting
as
a
benefit
of
an
egg's
right.
You
know
to
get
a
higher
level
service
and
they
were
receiving
from
the
county
and
we
do
have
to
integrate
them
in
and
we
do
have
those
conversations.
Most
of
them
are
fine
with
it.
Some
of
them
are
not,
and
it
is
what
it
is,
but.
C
D
AB
You,
mr.
horn,
good
morning,
mr.
mayor
and
councilmembers
I'm,
Tim
Kurtz,
the
construction
engineering,
construction
manager,
I'm
here
to
present
an
RFQ
52:19
agreement
for
construction
manager
at
risk,
two
scans
kusa
Building,
incorporated
of
Tampa
Florida
and
their
proposal
for
pre-construction
phase
services
in
the
amount
of
four
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
Excuse
me
once
approved
Skanska,
we'll
begin
working
directly
with
the
city,
our
consultant
teams
to
design
review
construction,
cost,
estimating
value
engineering,
project,
scheduling,
phasing
and
assisting
in
efforts
to
again
construction
activities.
I
have
represented
us
here
from
skanska
USA's
Tampa's
office.
AB
C
D
Award
of
invitation
to
bid
0,
1,
20
code,
inspection
and
plan
review
services
to
quorum,
services
of
temple,
Florida,
Joe,
Payne,
Inc
of
Tampa
Florida
and
Nova
engineering
and
environmental
LLC
of
Tampa
Florida
for
an
annual
not
to
exceed
amount
of
$500,000,
effective
January,
1
2020
through
December
31st
2020,
with
the
option
for
two
one
year:
extensions
and
authorized
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
sentence.
Two
Garioch
Thank.
E
E
D
Amendments
to
the
Community
Development
code
to
adopt
the
International
property
maintenance
code
with
certain
local
amendments.
In
section
3,
1502
in
place
of
chapter
47,
article
7,
unsafe
buildings
and
systems
in
chapter
49,
housing
code
and
expanding
the
powers
of
the
building
flood
Board
of
Adjustment,
and
appeals
to
hear
violations
and
appeals
related
to
the
international
property
maintenance
code
and
pass
the
appropriate
ordinance
on
first
reading.
The
roof.
AC
Good
morning,
my
name
is
Dan
I'm,
the
assistant
building
official
I'm
in
the
Planning
and
Development
Department.
The
item
before
you
is
to
adopt
the
International
property
maintenance
code,
and
this
will
take
a
clip.
This
would
be
put
in
place
of
chapter
47,
article
7,
unsafe
building
systems
and
chapter
49
housing
code.
AC
AC
What
the
city
proposes
is
to
adopt
the
International
property
maintenance
code
with
several
local
amendments.
Second
city,
the
city's
proposed
ordinance,
would
expand
the
power
of
the
building
flood
board
of
adjustment
and
appeals.
Under
this
new
ordinance.
The
flood
board
would
now
have
the
power
to
enter
orders
requiring
the
repair
of
unsafe
structures
and
to
allow
the
city
to
enter
the
property
to
make
repairs
on
the
owners
a
have.
Finally,
the
remaining
amendments
are
technical
in
nature
and
would
remove
certain
references
of
the
unsafe
build
a
pavement
code
and
the
standing
standard
housing
code.
AC
Properties
mile
is
not
code
code
enforcement,
that's
a
different
division.
What
this
does
it
takes
the
residential
which
would
be
the
housing
and
the
unsafe
which
could
be
applied
to
residential,
but
it's
only
applied
to
commercial
properties.
This
sort
of
this
combines
the
two
back
in
1998,
the
southern
Building
Code
Congress
in
national,
which
which
wrote
the
housing
code
and
the
unsafe
building
abatement
code
decided
to
publish
a
International
property
maintenance
code.
So
what
they
did
back
in
1998
was
combine.
Combine
the
two
okay,
okay,.
K
AC
K
AC
G
AC
Well
to
to
give
you
the
history
of
the
international
codes,
the
International
Code
Council,
writes
the
international
codes
and
that
would
encompass
building
code,
macam
code,
plumbing
code,
gas
code,
accessibility,
existing
building
code,
and
so
what
Florida
does
for
their
building
code?
Is
they
they
take?
AC
The
international
code
make
a
few
minor
changes
for
Florida
and
it's
the
Florida
Building
Code,
to
give
you
a
history
of
the
Florida
Building
Code
back
in
I,
think
Andrew
was
98
after
Andrew
happened,
Florida
had
four
different
building
codes,
debt
that
you
could
use,
and
so
so
every
jurisdiction
could
pick
and
choose.
So
we
have
24
jurisdictions
in
the
county,
so
Florida
decided
that
it
needed
one
code
and
with
the
international
code,
like
I,
said,
Florida
takes
the
international
code,
which
I
believe
about
thirty
five
states
use
and
most
other
states
do.
AC
G
AC
H
It's
because
I
still
say
implementation
or
action
taken
on
this
thing
is,
is
going
to
be
tricky
and
I,
don't
know
who
makes
the
decision
because
I
mean
you
know
if
we
now
have
the
city,
the
city
now
has
the
power
to
order
or
interest
in
a
property
and
do
the
can
do
the
improvements
ourselves
and
then
put
a
lien
on
the
property
who's
the
determinant
who
gets
to
determine
where
it's
money
well-spent
or
it's
not
money
well-spent.
As
far
as
you
know,
bringing
you
know
doing
this
work
on
the
the
property.
AD
Assistant
city
attorney
right
now,
the
city
actually
does
have
the
power
to
do
that
if
they
bring
those
cases
before
the
court
board.
In
this
case,
you
can
still
do
that
or
on
the
city
convenient
before
in
the
floodwater.
I've
been
the
flood
water
on
the
floorboards
consisted
of
professionals
who
can
contract
these
engines
so
they're
all
determining
whether
or
not
the
structure
is
pension
is
safe,
unsafe
or
not,
doesn't
need
the
call
tonight
and
if
it
doesn't
meet
the
code
then
they
can,
which
they
already
have
the
power
to
determine.
AD
H
AC
C
Want
to
follow
up
on
I
think
the
point
that
mr.
Poe
glaze
was
trying
to
get
to
it,
and
that
was
if
a
building
is
vacant
for
an
extended
period
of
time
and
nothing
is
being
done
to
it.
If
it's
not
safe,
this
code
doesn't
apply.
Is
that
correct
if
it's
not
safe,
if
it's
considered
safe,
this
has
no
okay,
so
we
can't
go
in
and
enforce
a
property
owner
to
improve
his
building
or
or
lease
adore
or
sell
it.
Based
on
this
code,.
AE
K
D
Mr.
Mehra
I
want
to
go
back
to
Council.
Remember
all
brings
question
because
I
think
he
was
going
down
a
track
of
enforcement
and
that's
why
I
mentioned
code
enforcement
who
enforces
this
code
on
our
staff.
It
would
be
the
building
official
all
right,
so
so
it
comes
somewhere
I'll
bring
you
were
trying
to.
If
you
were
thinking,
code
enforcement,
but
actually
building
is
building.
D
Authorize
the
piggyback
of
Florida
State
contract,
as
indicated
software
value-added
reseller
services
to
CW
cdw-g
of
Vernon
Hills
over
us
in
the
mouth,
a
four
hundred
sixty
thousand
five
hundred
eighty
one
dollars
pursuant
to
chloride
a
code
of
ordinance,
section
two
point:
five:
six:
four
one:
D
exceptions
to
government
into
these
bids
and
authorized
lease
purchase
under
the
city's
master
lease
purchase
agreement
or
internal
financing
via
and
inter
fund
loan
from
the
Capital
Improvement
Fund,
which
air
was
deemed
to
be
in
the
city's
best
interest
and
authorized
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute,
say.
Mr.
mayor.
V
Mayor
council,
dan
mayor
IT,
director
CommVault,
is
our
vendor
for
backup
solutions.
It
is
a
combined
software
hardware,
solution
that
writes
our
data
off
of
our
network
onto
devices
that
we
can
store
at
remote
locations
or
at
other
locations
within
the
city.
We've
been
using
convolved
for
about
the
past
eight
years,
the
upgrade
this
is
both
in
terms
of
the
number
and
the
volume
of
data
that
we
need.
The
backup,
because
we've
had
significant
growth
over
the
last
ten
years,
as
well
as
the
hardware
devices
are
a
large
improvement
over
spinning
discs.
V
There
solid-state
storage
devices-
and
this
differs
from
the
storage
that
I
brought
to
you
about
six
nine
months
ago.
That
storage
is
for
operational
exchange,
so
we
don't
buy
computers
with
hard
drives
anymore.
We
buy
processors,
we
have
network
storage
right
and
that's
how
it
works,
and
then,
when
we
back
it
up,
we
back
it
off
off
the
network
storage
to
these
devices
and
we
put
them
in
locations
where
people
with
nefarious
intent
can't
find
them.
Hopefully,
port
get
to
them
it's
encrypted
as
well
yeah.
It's.
V
K
You,
mr.
mayor,
so
this
is
light
of
what
just
happened
at
Pensacola
I
believe
I've
learned
this
weekend.
All
of
this
storage
and
backup
is
sort
of
insurance
reassurance
that
should
we
have
cyber
attack.
We
have
backup
systems
in
place
and
storage
of
our
operational
software
tech
systems
that
can
recover.
V
V
K
Q
I
D
Approve
the
interlocal
agreement
between
Pinellas
County
in
the
cities
of
Clearwater
Dunedin
Gulfport,
Largo,
Oldsmar,
Pinellas,
Park
safety,
barber,
st.
Petersburg
and
tarpon
springs
for
funding.
The
Tampa
Bay
Estuary
program
match
of
a
Florida
Department
of
Environmental
Protection
grant
to
develop
a
social
marketing
campaign,
focused
on
reducing
sanitary
sewer,
overflows
and
authorized
and
proven
officials
to
execute
sane.
Mr.
Porter.
AF
Good
morning,
David
Florida
Public
Utilities
Director
as
you're
well
aware,
we've
been
combating
issues
within
the
sewer
system
for
some
time
trying
to
deal
with
sanitary
sewer
overflows.
It's
one
of
our
major
projects
that
we've
been
working
on.
One
of
the
issues
that
we
deal
with
with
sanitary
sewer
overflows
as
those
that
are
caused
by
the
homeowners
themselves.
It
can
be
problems
with
their
laterals
from
their
home
to
the
susana
terry
sewer,
to
meet
things
they
put
down
the
drain
like
recess,
fats
and
oils,
and
things
like
that.
AF
It
could
be
roots
from
trees
on
the
property.
So
there's
a
number
of
things
that
contributed
to
sanitary
sewer
overflows,
as
you
also
know
we're
a
member
of
the
wastewater
stormwater
partnership,
which
is
a
group
of
all
of
the
utilities
here
in
Pinellas
County.
One
of
the
tactics
that
we
came
up
with
to
try
to
deal
with
those
components
of
sanitary
sewer,
overflow
recipe
proposed
by
homeowners
and
content
can
be
alleviated
if
homeowners
were
better
educated
on
these
issues
is
a
marketing
campaign.
AF
So
we
Tom
protected
the
estuary
program
some
time
ago
about
a
year
ago
and
asked
if
they
would
be
interested
in
working
with
us
to
develop
a
program
in
conjunction
with
DEP,
who
provides
fifty
percent
of
the
funding
to
do
just
that,
so
we're
in
the
process.
Now
we've
got
a
grant
or
the
history
program
has
a
grant
from
DEP
there's
a
$75,000
match,
and
now
all
of
the
communities
in
the
storm,
water,
wastewater,
partnership
or
pet
are
getting
together
to
come
up
with
that
two
phones.
K
K
AF
C
Deal
it
is
thank
you
it
has
listed
here.
The
the
total
cost
is
seventy
seven
thousand
of
the
county's
putting
up
twenty
two
thousand
the
city,
ten
Dunedin,
two
three
Gulfport
$292
Largo,
eight
thousand
holes
more
two
thousand
Pinellas
Park,
five
thousand,
so
it
must
be
based
on
population.
It
is
yep
in
st.
Petersburg
is
putting
up
nineteen
thousand,
oh
and
speaking
of
st.
Petersburg.
C
AF
A
AF
Again,
the
storm
water
wastewater
partnership
we've
been
working
for
almost
a
year
and
a
half
along
with
all
the
legal
folks
from
each
of
our
cities
to
try
to
come
up
with
an
ordinance,
that'll
work
for
all
of
us.
The
intent
for
us
is
to
have
the
county,
take
the
lead
and
write
the
ordinance
with
the
rest
of
us
being
able
to
adopt
it
so
that
we're
equally
sharing
the
load.
So
we're
not
there
yet,
because
there
will
be
some
prohibitions
on
things
that
we
do
right
now
in
order
to
make
that
work.
Well,.
AF
You're
correct
now
st.
Petersburg
went
ahead
and
did
a
pilot
program
on
their
own
until
written
in
ordinance
on
their
own
and
there's
a
reason
for
that.
They
had
the
problems
with
the
DEP
that
we
haven't
had
so
we're
not
in
that
position
where
they
we
were
ordered
to
do
so,
and
to
try
to
find
make
that
a
key
element
of
their
way
of
dealing
with
the
issue
with
DEP.
AF
AF
D
11.2
authorize
the
award
of
an
invitation
to
bid
12-20
of
liquid
aluminum
sulphate.
That's
her
chemical
of
Florida
Inc
in
an
annual
enough
to
exceed
amount
of
two
hundred
and
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
with
the
optional
two
one
year,
extensions
of
the
city's
discretion
and
authorize
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
things
to
interfere
and.
AF
David
Porter
Public,
Utilities
Director,
one
of
the
chemicals
that
we
use
in
our
processes
in
our
wastewater
treatment
plant
is
liquid
and
aluminum
sulfate
alona
sulfate
is
used
to
help
precipitate
out
phosphorus
and
phosphorus,
as
you
know,
is
one
of
those
nutrients
that
we
do
not
want
to
put
into
the
bay
or
to
the
waterways
given
Florida.
So
this
chemical
is
used
to
reduce
phosphorus
and
I
asked
any.
C
C
B
Mayor
council,
Michael,
defconn
citizen
city
manager
wanted
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
this
morning
about
the
results
of
our
public
engagement
meetings
and
then
have
a
conversation
with
you
about
the
the
amphitheater
and
the
operations
and
how
we're
going
to
to
manage
that
facility.
We
need
to
get
some
some
kind
of
direction
from
you.
B
One
of
the
things
I'll
say
is
that
I
I
think
you
know
we're
moving
very
quickly
towards
some
construction
next
year
is
going
to
be
a
really
important
year
for
us
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
fun.
I'm
getting
increasingly
excited
the
closer
we
get
to
the
ability
to
turn
some
dirt
out
here
and
I
wanted
to.
You
know
emphasize
that
our
feedback
from
the
public
has
been
really
positive.
B
So
we're
not
going
to
give
you
all
the
details
that
today,
given
that
it
was
a
public
outreach
and
public
engagement,
we're
going
to
continue
to
assemble
some
of
the
the
feedback
and
the
information
that
we
have
gleaned
from
our
four
meetings
and
we'll
we'll
provide
that
to
you
on
Thursday
night
at
a
point
where
we
can
have
some
interaction
with
the
public.
They
choose
to
come
in
or
weigh
in
so
the
first
thing.
Well,
let
me
first
of
all
go
through
kind
of
our
agenda.
B
B
I've
had
a
number
of
individual
conversations
with
you
all
over
the
last
several
months
and
as
I,
you
know
kind
of
update
you
on
our
weekly
progress
and
what
we're
what
we're
doing
with
the
park
and
I
think
there
are
some
differing
kind
of
views
of
how
we
may
need
to
manage
and
so
I
think.
As
we
get
very
close,
we're
now
really
working
on
60%
drawings,
we're
trying
to
pull
together
the
financing
and
operations
of
the
park.
B
I
think
you
know
it's
important
for
us
to
understand
what
the
kind
of
what
that
scenario
looks
like
for
us,
and
some
of
that
depends
on
the
the
levels
of
use
and
how
we
manage
that
facility,
including
whether
or
not
we,
you
know
how
we
manage
a
Conservancy.
If
we
move
in
that
route,
so
we're
going
to
talk
about
a
series
of
those
things.
Some
things
there'll
be
some
pretty
easy
questions
for
you,
some
basic
assumptions
and
other
things.
B
What
that
looks
like
so
and
then
we'll
wrap
up
with
a
brief
discussion
on
what
the
next
step
is
for
the
bluff
and
the
the
properties
that
we
own
there
so
very
exciting,
very
exciting
in
the
year
and
looking
forward
to
some
activities
occurring
shortly
after
the
first
the
year,
starting
with
the
library
we
are
public
outreach,
400-plus
attendees
the
owner.
Most
of
you
aware,
the
Clearwater
main
library
was
an
outstanding
meeting,
countryside
library,
a
good
group
of
folks
there,
although
admittedly
a
smaller
group,
but
we
were
still
able
to
get
some
good
feedback.
B
December
7th,
the
countryside,
mall.
That
was
an
outstanding
day.
I
think
we
all
were
very
impressed
with
the
the
people
walking
by
you
know.
Frankly,
that's
something
you
know
the
next
next
go-around
to
the
next
big
project.
I
think
we'd
like
to
take
more
advantage
of,
as
is
sitting
up
in
the
mall
and
really
just
capturing
people
as
they
walk
by
I.
B
Think
you
know,
with
the
the
virtual
reality,
videos
and
the
laptops
the
ability
to
get
some
interaction
and
feedback
right
there
at
the
mall
area
was
very,
very
well-received
and
then
North
Green
well
Greenwood,
Recreation
Center
on
December
10th.
We
had
an
outstanding
tournament
turning
out
from
the
North
Korean
web
community
I,
don't
know
that
could
have
been
much
happier
with
the
the
good
response
that
we
had
there.
We've
got
a
we'll
have
a
meeting
tonight
actually
at
the
sailing
centre.
B
So
this
is
a
little
more
impromptu
haven't
had
quite
as
much
notice
as
we've
had
for
some
of
the
others,
but
hopefully
we'll
get
some
good
feedback
there
as
well
and
again,
we'll
summarize
that
for
you
on
Thursday
night,
but
let
me
hit
some
of
the
very
highlights
of
what
the
the
survey
responses
are.
These
vary
the
two
point.
B
Four
out
of
three:
that's
a
eighty
percent
positive
response
mark
point
on
the
amphitheater
in
green,
the
Civic
Plaza
itself,
two
point
three:
this
is
76%
positive
response
rate,
the
lake
76
percent
playground,
a
garden
in
two
point:
four
about
eighty
percent:
positive
response:
the
bluff
walk.
Eighty
percent
positive
response,
the
library,
a
two
percent
renaming
the
park
to
coachman
Commons-
maybe
not
surprisingly,
I-
had
the
most
question
marks
for
the
folks
that
we
had
talked
to.
B
But
this
this
rate
of
approval
or
acceptance
of
the
renaming
of
coachman
cart
park
still
generates
over
six
out
of
ten
positive
responses
or
63%.
So
any
rate
I
think
we've
kind
of
got
a
good
reality
check
from
our
community
that
that
overall,
the
park
is
moving
in
a
very
positive
direction
and
so
I
feel
pretty
confident.
B
Now,
as
we
move
from
30
percent
to
60
percent,
and
we
take
a
look
at
some
of
those
detailed
comments
and
things
that
we've
gotten
for
the
public
and
again
we'll
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
on
that
on
Thursday.
Maybe
we
can
enhance
some
things
that
seems
to
be
particularly
enamored
with
and
happy
with,
or
make
some
adjustments
and
changes,
and
so
we'll
be
working
with
with
Stantec
and
the
line
after
we
go
over
those
things
with
you.
B
So
I
think
what
we
want
to
focus
on
this
morning,
as
we
kind
of
end
out
the
year
here,
and
what
I
would
concerned
be
a
very
important
discussion
with
you.
B
We
have
been
indicating
to
you
for
some
time
that
we
would
want
to
bring
you
something
more
detail
in
terms
of
how
the
operation
maintenance,
the
management
this
facility
needs
to
needs
to
occur,
I
think
again
in
some
of
our
conversations
individually
as
we
you
know,
update
you
weekly,
we've
gotten
a
fair
amount
of
responses
from
you
and
comments
from
you
on
the
amphitheater.
What
your
expectations
are
and
I
think
some
of
those
are
a
little
bit
varied.
B
So
as
we
establish
what
the
operational
model
is
for
this
facility,
I
think
it's
important
that
we
kind
of
have
a
common
understanding
of
what
it
is
that
we're
trying
to
achieve
with
the
the
facility.
So
some
of
these
questions
may
be
rather
easy
for
you.
Some
may
require
us
a
little
more
discussion.
I've
got
some
staff
here
to
assist
with
some
of
the
the
details
or
particulars
of
some
of
these
questions
that
we
have,
but
we're
not
going
to
settle.
B
All
that
question
this
morning,
what
we're
going
to
do
is
to
try
to
get
from
you
what
we
believe
to
be
a
consistent
picture
feedback
and
what
your
expectations
are
and
then
we'll
will
develop
a
more
detailed
financial
model.
An
operational
model
around
that
will
need
to
bring
it
back
to
you
and
I
would
hopefully
desire
to
bring
that
to
you
in
January
from
a
timing,
standpoint
I
think
we're
in
a
pretty
good
shape.
We're
moving
quickly
towards
construction.
Designs
of
everything
is
moving
forward.
B
We
want
you
to
be
in
a
position
to
have
options
and
choices,
and
also
to
have
a
complete
picture
of
what
the
what
the
impacts,
financial
and
otherwise
are
of
the
of
the
venue.
This
has
really
focused
primarily
this
next
few
minutes
of
discussion
is
focused
on
the
the
venue
itself,
the
amphitheater
so,
and
it's
really
related
to
the
operations
of
maintenance
of
the
amphitheater.
Only
not
the
park
so
I
want
to
we'll
just
start
off
here
and
go
through
the
epithelia
tour
program,
lists
assumptions
and
actually
I
think
I'd
like
for
Chris.
B
If
you're
gonna
come-
and
maybe
talk
a
little
bit
about
that,
but
let
me
kind
of
walk
you
through
some
of
these
initial
assumptions
shows
will
not
inhibit
the
use
of
the
park
outside
of
the
green
I.
Think
that's
important
is
your
expectation
that
for
ticketed
events,
what
goes
on
inside
the
ticketed
event
area
will
be
managed
and
controlled
by
either
us
or
the
operator.
Everything
else
that
goes
on
outside
the
ticketed
event
area
is
going
to
be
publicly
accessible,
just
as
it
normally
is
during
a
working
day.
B
So
I
think
that's
a
very
important
consideration.
That
means
the
bluff
walk.
There
is
a
Plaza
entry
at
Cleveland
and
you
know
the
lake
area,
the
garden
area.
You
know
our
you
is
your
expectation
that
the
entire
park
outside
the
ticket
of
the
venue
event
area,
if
that's
the
case,
is
open
and
available
for
use
during
the
event
shows,
will
not
negatively
impact
the
redevelopment
of
adjacent
parcels.
I
think
you
know
that's
a
that's
a
problem.
I
think
we've
all
heard
that
question,
and
so
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
you
know.
B
You
know
a
situation
where
what
are
your
expectations?
What
is
your
level
of
acceptance
of
impact,
if
you
will
or
not
shows
will
not
have
negatively
impacted,
jacent
residential
structures?
Obviously
that's
something.
We've
all
heard.
What
is
our
tolerance
for
for
managing
the
facility
and
will
why
we
need
to
talk
about
that
will
be
a
little
more
clear
a
little
later
on
in
terms
of
the
the
next
item
and
the
frequency
of
shows
and
event
use
of
the
facility
will
not
restrict
daily
use
or
activation
programming
in
the
park.
B
If
we
have
a
venue
amphitheater
doing
events
that
may
or
may
not
lend
itself
to
a
Conservancy,
a
Conservancy
may
be
something
we
consider
later
on
to
have
daily
activation
or
routine
activation
of
the
park
for
other
events
and
facilities.
So
is
there
a
conflict
between
what
we
may
otherwise
do
on
a
daily
basis
to
activate
the
park
versus
the
incorporation
or
the
compatibility,
the
amphitheater,
and
then
how
we
want
to
balance
those
operations.
H
The
first
bullet
and
the
last
bullet
to
me
are
not
necessarily
in
conflict,
but
my
understanding
and
my
impression
moving
for
moving,
you
know:
I
want
the
part
to
be
available,
while
the
staging
or
breakdown
of
an
event
is
taking
place.
But
while
the
actual
event
on
the
evening
of
the
of
the
on
the
evening
of
the
event
is
taking
place,
I'm
not
sure
how
we
I'm
not
sure
access
to
all
the
rest
of
the
park
other
than
in
you
know,
the
updater
itself
is
going
to
be
controlled.
I
Don't
think
there's
a
conflict
I'd
like
to
see
the
park
open
at
all
times.
The
only
thing
that
I
thought
was
a
problematic
was
having
people
being
unpaid
people
being
able
to
see
the
show
standing
on
the
bridge,
not
the
big
bridge,
but
the
pedestrian
bridge,
all
along
the
boardwalk
or
the
left
walk,
but
I
think
that
was
taken
care
of
with
the
trees
and
the
you
know,
you're
gonna
be
able
to
hear
I
mean
people
from
the
boats
can
hear
concerts,
then
that
pay
so
but
to
actually
see
it.
I
B
To
them
well,
I
think
it's
you
clearly
will
be
able
to
hear
it
from
any
all
of
these
areas.
I,
but
I
think
this
question
that
is
a
good
one,
because
there
we
don't
have
perfect
alignment
on
this
expectation.
So
that's
exactly
why
we
we
need
to
have
this
conversation
and
and
frankly,
I,
don't
know
what
the
reaction
is
of
the
the
other
groups
that
are
the
advocating
to
you.
You
know
the
amphitheater
in
terms
of
their
level
of
acceptance
of
additional
park
access,
I
mean
there
could
be
a
few
thousand
people
up
on.
B
B
B
Don't
know,
that's
I
mean
that's
a
management
question
I'm,
not
sure
that
we've
answered
yet
the
terms
of
that
I
would
expect
that
we
may
we
may
anticipate
a
broader
times
of
use.
Does
this
going
to
be
a
very
I
think
this
park
will
be
an
attraction
in
and
of
itself,
so
we
may
have
more
interest
here
wider
range
of
time,
but.
K
If
I
may
interject
there,
this
is
just
a
list
of
assumptions
and
then
the
rest
of
the
presentation
is
I'm.
Assuming
will
be
to
how
we
accomplish
some
of
these
assumptions
and
where
there
may
or
may
not
be
conflicts.
So
we
really
haven't
seen
the
details
of,
for
instance,
how
do
you
have
a
ticketed
event,
closed
area
and
keep
the
rest
of
the
park
open,
because
on
my
one-on-ones,
the
best
seats
in
the
house
are
the
paid
tickets
inside
there's
going
to
be
a
berm,
a
perimeter,
some
kind
of
fencing.
K
The
whole
idea
of
this
major
investment
is
to
make
it
available.
24/7,
though,
not
literally,
if
we,
because
I,
don't
see
this
public
investment
of
interest
of
this
park
as
being
accessible
24
hours,
it's
gonna
have
to
be
protected
not
only
for
the
parks
good,
but
for
citizens,
good,
so
I,
don't
foresee
it
being
24/7.
But
I
would
like
to
just
accept
these
assumptions
and
see
the
rest
of
the
presentation
how
they
plan
on
accomplishing
that.
C
B
U
Just
kind
of
working
through
there
have
been,
as
the
excitement
has
built,
there's
been
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
outside
of
the
community
who
have
been
asking
questions
about
how
they
can
start
to
get
on
a
projected
schedule
of
events
for
when
the
new
one
the
new
park
opens.
So
some
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
get
some
clarity
on
before
that
was
some
of
our
existing
annual
events
and
how
we're
going
to
treat
those
and
how
that
could
potentially
impact
those
financial
models
that
we
were
talking
about
building.
U
U
These
events
also
count
for
51,
you
stays,
which
is
those
set
up
and
break
down
days
along
with
the
event
days.
There
is
a
mixture
of
ticketed
and
free
events
of
those.
There
are
seven
seven
of
those
events
currently
have
a
ticketing
component
or
a
a
registration
component.
The
vast
majority
of
them
are
free
and
open
to
the
public
and.
B
I
think
I
would
present
these
as
in
a
form
of
a
question
in
terms
of
your
continued,
because
these
are
these
are
obviously
revenue
or
expense
equations
that
we
need
to
consider
for
the
venue
I've
heard.
Some
of
you
say
that
we,
our
desire,
is
to
recover
the
capital
costs
for
the
construction
of
the
14
million
dollar
venue.
B
If
that's
the
case,
then
obviously
the
number
and
extent
of
shows
for
which
we
are
the
primary
contributors
deducts
from
that
revenue
stream-
that
we
need
to
calculate
to
tell
you
what
the
annual
supporting
general
revenue
funding
is
going
to
be
required
to
to
cover
the
venue,
so
I
would
I
would
present
these
as
a
form
of
a
question
that
you
anticipate
continuing
these.
We
would
assume
so,
but
we
don't
want
to
make
that
assumption
without
your
I'd.
K
Like
to
see
the
opera
technology
just
sparked
it
out,
I
think
to
the
operating
agreement
or
what
the
suggestions
the
data
is
from
because
we
talked
about
multiple
operators.
It's
going
to
be
an
open
contract,
I'd
like
to
see
what
that
formula.
What
that
business
plan
may
look
like
to
see
if
we're
able
to
subsidize
or
take
this
away,
maybe
in-kind
doesn't
equal
this
you
know.
Maybe
we
continue
to
do
the
seven
events
we
do,
but
another
thing
just
to
clarify,
because
the
51
days
were
set
up,
a
breakdown
I
think
that's
going
to
change.
K
That's,
maybe
not
to
me.
That's
a
little
bit
misleading
because
the
infrastructure
is
going
to
be
there.
The
whole
park
is
not
going
to
be
shut
down
for
setup
and
breakdown
days,
because
that's
on
the
first
slide,
the
assumptions
are
the
park
will
always
be
accessible
and
available.
So
the
setup
and
breakdown
days
to
me
are
it's
already
going
to
be
there
that
timeframe
of
lost
days
to
the
park,
which
is
how
that
seems
and
sounds,
is
not
really
accurate.
We're
not
losing
that
many
days
for
setup
and
breakdown
they
just
move.
Is
that.
K
To
me
that
slide,
maybe
would
have
at
the
end,
let's
see
what
the
potential
suggestion
of
business
plan
is
using
three
different
operators
using
three
different.
Well,
we
had
talked
about
using
there's
three
different
promoters:
AEG
Ruth,
Eckerd,
Hall
and
Live
Nation,
an
open
contract,
and
when
we
had
our
discussion,
yes,
I
believe
the
citizens
should
be
able
to
recover
the
capital
cost
for
this
park
and
and
there's
several
different
ways
to
do
that
by
putting
those
fees
on
those
operators
weathers.
Sorry.
D
B
You
know
I,
don't
know
well,
I
think
the
number
of
events
will
go
up
substantially.
Obviously,
but
it's
important
to
know
that
we
will.
Whether
our
expectation
is
that
we
will
either
try
to
recover
costs
from
those
in
the
future
or
not.
Our
assumption
would
be,
for
example,
maybe
with
Clearwater
Jazz
Festival.
We
continue
to
be
a
primary
sponsor
and
contributor
to
support
that
event.
Rather
than
assign
the
cost
recovery
to
the
Jazz
found.
D
Minh
I
would
say
that
the
thinking
was
is
that
we
would
not
be
exclusive
to
any
promoter
all
right
that
was
the
that
was
the
principle
behind
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
we
will
actually
agree
on
the
deal
with
them.
It
just
means
that
we
are
kin,
there
will
be
no
exclusive
user,
but
okay
I
do
think,
there's
some
more
work.
We
have
to
do
to
really
talk
about
just
how
much
we
can
expect
to
generate
in
terms
of
revenue
recover
the
cost
of
investment
that
we
make
of
it.
B
D
C
B
We're
asking
you
to
accept
or
not
accept,
the
premise
that
we
will
continue
to
provide
in-kind
services
to
a
series
of
basic
events,
as
we
have
recently
historically
done
that,
because
we're
building
a
14
million
dollar
venue
you're
not
going
to
expect
that
these
these
will
no
longer
be
subsidized
events
by
the
city.
That's
what
we're
trying
to
clarify!
Thank
you.
What
what
will
we
continue
to
subsidize?
What
do
we
look
to
recover
costs
from,
but.
C
C
K
You
have
a
new
generator.
Yes,
sir.
We
want
to
continue
to
put
our
brand
out
there
and
support
community
events
which
I'm
certain
a
lot
of
those
are,
so
we
don't
want
to
give
that
up.
But
when
you
start
looking
at
the
calendar
and
how
many
programming
days
for
profit
would
be
the
open
contract
to
the
promoters,
and
then
these
are
kind
of
community
events.
I
mean
the
Jazz
holiday,
for
instance,
is
a
not-for-profit.
So
that's
that
community
piece.
Q
B
L
L
Sure
you
know
these
are
in
no
particular
order,
so
we
have
the
MLK
parade
in
Raleigh,
clear
water,
run,
festival
and
cruising
at
the
Capitol.
We
included
some
of
the
events
that
we
anticipate
will
have
a
impact
overall
on
the
park
as
because
with
the
enhanced
Park,
we
would
anticipate
that
you
know
we
would
have
some
of
the
events
be
moving
to
the
the
gateway,
so
that
one
cruising
the
Capitol.
L
We
could
probably
take
that
one
out
of
there,
so
we
so
we'll
go
to
ESPN
Elite
Invitational
welcome
event,
see
blues
wild
splash
Relay
for
Life,
look
up
clear
water,
Easter
egg
hunt,
97x
backyard,
barbecue,
Florida
orchestra
in
the
park,
the
water
celebrates
America,
the
offshore
Nationals
Hispanic,
Heritage,
Festival,
jazz
holiday
and
then
what's
the
final
one
in
there
Chris
boat
parade,
because
the
other
ones
are
primarily
gonna
be
not
directly
impacted
on
the
venue.
Yeah.
U
There's
a
last
Friday's
we
would
anticipate
being
part
of
the
new
venue
for
those
of
those
that
need
listed.
There's
it's
really
a
couple
of
handful
of
events
that
generate
that
larger
number
see
blues.
As
he'd
mentioned,
we
did
the
Florida
orchestra
event
in
the
park
last
year,
which
we
subsidized
Clearwater
celebrates
America
the
super
boat,
the
components
to
the
downtown
events,
the
Clearwater
Jays
holiday,
Hispanic,
Heritage
Festival,
and
the
blasts
Fridays,
as
I
mentioned,.
K
Precisely
some
of
those
events,
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
those
that
were
just
stated
not
as
a
direct
impact,
the
coachmen
part
but
the
downtown
so,
for
instance,
the
boat
parade
within
this
new
imagine
Clearwater.
The
the
boat
parade
does
not
impact
the
coachmen
Park.
It
does
because
they
currently
go
to
coachmen
Park
at
the
end
of
the
parade,
but
I
don't
know
that
they're
going
to
be
able
to
go
to
coachman
Commons
anymore.
K
B
What
we'll
I'm
sorry
know
what
I
would
what
I
would
say?
This
is
important
and
we
can
and
we
don't
need
to
go
through
this
line
by
line
mix,
so
we
don't
want
to
take
that
much
of
your
time
we
don't
need
to,
but
we
I
think
what's
important
to
understand.
Is
that
there's
a
certain
level
of
contribution
in
the
new
facility
we're
going
to
continue
to
do
regardless
of
the
capital
cost
the
capital
recovery
there?
B
We
know
we're
just
going
to
be
contributing
and
partnering
with
a
number
of
these
events,
so
we'll
we'll
continue
with
that
basic
assumption,
and
then
that
will
help
us.
That's
that's
really
kind
of
all.
We
need
from
you
today,
just
an
understanding,
common
understanding
of
that,
and
it
will
focus
on
the
you
know,
the
other.
What
we
would
consider
to
be
the
cost
recovery
side
of
the
equation
where
we
want
to
recover
capital
costs.
Mr.
I
Aubrey,
okay,
so
you've
kind
of
answered
what
you
want
to
hear
today.
I
think
you're
gonna
get
an
answer
for
we
all
kind
of
agree
with
that,
but
there's
a
lot
more
talk
that
has
to
be
done
on
like
I,
don't
agree
with
the
fifty
something
days
of
the
park
closure
or
the
green
closure
to
have
23
of
this
I.
Don't
and
I've
said
that
since
the
beginning,
talking
with
you
in
private
sections,
I
think
sessions
I
think
that's
too
many
days.
I
If
we're
gonna
have
a
part
that
is
made
where
we're
not
gonna
have
to
enhance
like
we
do
now,
we're
not
going
to
be
closing
that
part
three
days
for
a
one
day,
event
I
think
we're
gonna
be
able
to
tighten
that
up
and
I
know.
A
lot
of
the
events
are
not
one-day
advancer
two
three-day
events,
so
we
need
to
have
more
of
a
discussion
on
that
when
we
get
to
that
point.
But
I'm
not
gonna
hold
it
up
today
because
of
that
I'm.
I
B
I
But
also
we're
not
going
to
have
I
want
everybody
to
know,
that's
watching
this
and
we're
not
going
to
have
a
hundred
holidays.
You
know
a
big
fat,
what
I
call
a
festival,
they're
gonna,
be
mostly
smaller
events
and
they
may
not
all
be
four
thousand
seat
events.
They
may
be
less
than
that.
I
know
the
Florida
orchestra
wants
to
come
play
there
and
I,
don't
know
if
they'd
fill
four
thousand
seats
every
time
they
come,
but
there
would
be
a
lot
of
in
with
nice
thing
about
our
performance.
I
Pavilion
I
call
it
not
an
amphitheater,
because
we
really
don't
have
an
amphitheater
where
there's
thick
seating
I
mean
this.
We
have
no
seating
and
the
seats
we
set
up
have
to
be
set
up
and
taken
down.
So
we
can.
We
have
a
lot
of
flexibility
to
set
up
less
seats
on
a
smaller
event.
You
know,
I,
think
that
that's
a
discussion
for
another
time
and
I'm,
not
gonna,
believe
that
now
so,
okay.
U
D
I
do
think
we
need
to
have
some
little
bit
more
discussion
with
us,
providing
a
little
bit
more
definitive
information
around
this
whole
conversation
that
we
just
have
to
make
sure
that
you're,
a
comfort
level
is
its
word.
You
want
it
to
be,
because
one
of
my
concerns,
just
from
an
operational
point
of
view,
is
that
to
make
this
stuff
work,
we're
going
to
have
to
do
some
things
to
make
it
work,
and
it
may
be
inconsistent
with
what
we
all
think
is
supposed
to
happen.
We've
got
to
get
into
the
park.
D
You
know,
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
you
know
certain
operational
things
are
set
up
appropriately
and
I
think
that,
as
long
as
we
have
a
good
idea
of
kind
of
what
you
know,
what
are
some
of
the
outer
range
of
things
we
can
expect.
You
know
versus
things
that
we
think
having
more
conversation
at
least
I
would
feel
more
comfortable
having
more
conversation
with
you
about
it,
and.
C
B
B
K
K
You
okay!
So
when
you
talked
about
impact,
even
if
there's
let's
say
a
day
associated
the
state
produces
seven
events,
so
we
have
chair
set
up
one
day,
chair
set
up
two
days,
so
seven
events,
so
that's
level
of
impact
would
be.
Do
we
take
a
schedule
of
events
of
let's
say
we
do
20
different
events
outside
promoters
and
our
seven
events
27,
and
if
you
give
them
a
day
or
two
to
set
up
and
break
down.
That's
fifty
some
events.
K
So
what
would
be
the
revit,
the
source,
the
revenue
generator
of
them
doing
twenty
events
so
having
that
kind
of
a
business
plan
to
see,
because
maybe
we
don't
we're,
obviously
not
going
to
recover
capital
costs
in
entirely
for
quite
a
period
of
time.
So
what
does
that
schedule?
Look
like
I
mean
you
know
what
I
mean.
How
long
does
it
take
to
do
that?
K
B
I
think-
and
this
kind
of
leads
us
to
one
of
the
other
one
of
the
other
questions,
and
that
is
that
there
are
certain
you
know.
Along
with
the
capital
costs,
there
are
operational
costs,
so
you
know
I
think,
and
we
probably
ought
to
talk
about
this.
A
little
bit
is
I.
Think
in
some
cases
there's
an
expectation
that
this
is
a
volunteer
more
or
less
a
volunteer
facility.
B
I
think
you
know
from
the
staff
standpoint
is
we
believe
that,
with
a
venue
and
operation
of
this
size
that
it
I
require,
you
know
an
executive
director,
a
facility
manager
facilities,
support
staff
there
we'll
call
Windows,
so
we've
got
ticketing
and
that
sort
of
thing
bookkeeping
operations.
I,
think
you
know
this
is
a
substantial
venue
and
you
know
I
believe
it's
our
opinion
that
it
may
need
a
number
of
FTEs
and
we've
had
this.
This
is
not
a
new
discussion.
This
is
a
discussion
from
from
April
and
I.
B
Think
the
estimate
was
in
what
seven
to
nine
or
something
along
that
line
that
was
based
on
maybe
a
little
smaller
venue,
although
I,
don't
think
the
number
of
seats
necessarily
would
impact
that
as
much
whether
it
was
twenty
five
hundred
or
four
thousand
but
clearly
for
the
back
of
house.
Those
are
those
are
annual.
B
G
That's
a
stretch
of
my
imagination:
I'm
not
quite
ready
to
go
there.
It
would
be
nice
if
it
were,
but
we're
blessed
here
in
Clearwater
with
my
parents
than
anywhere
else,
probably
per
capita
in
the
country,
and
do
we
have
another
part?
That's
self-supporting
I,
don't
think
we
do
and
I
think
that
may
be
too
much
to
expect
I
think
we
ought
to
have
enough
programming
there
in
the
end,
the
performance
venue
that
we
will
recover
some
at
least
the
operating
costs
and
I-
think
that
would
be
a
wonderful
goal
and
if,
if
we
can.
B
And
I
think
your
question
is,
and
your
point
is
that
our
part
of
our
concern
is
that
it
will,
you
know,
there's
an
expectation
that
it
will
recover.
That
may
not
be
where
we
need
to
be
at
this
stage.
It
may
not
be
appropriate
to
consider
that
it
will
recover
all
the
costs.
So
that's
right,
I
think
I.
Think
it's
important
for
us
to
build
you
the
model.
G
L
Mean
to
go
to
a
mr.
Doug's
comment
regarding
the
staff.
It's
a
chicken
and
egg
scenario,
because
it's
what
what
drives
the
the
amount
of
staff
that
we
have
is
the
model
that
we
use
to
manage
the
facility
if
the
facility
has
managed
where
it's
a
use
fee
and
we
basically
charge
people
that
come
in
a
particular
fees
and
that
will,
of
course,
our
staff
cost
will
be
lower
because
that
eliminate
the
need
for
marketing
for
someone
to
go
over
into
in-depth
contracts.
Things
of
that
nature.
L
Now,
if
we
build
the
management
structure
off
of
how
we
currently
operate
mr.
Cook
and
speak
to
speak
to
that,
that's
where
we
start
seeing
an
increased
level
of
need
and
basically
autonomy
for
that
staff
there,
because
it's
gonna
be
a
there'll,
be
Center
and
mission
driven
to
operate
that
facility
out
there.
L
Now
again
there
may
be
the
best
use
may
be
a
hybrid
use,
and
if
that
comes
the
case,
then
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
gray
area
that
we're
trying
to
navigate
through
to
be
able
to
present
you
the
best
modeling
and
scenario
as
we
come
forward.
So
that
way,
you'll
have
a
full
picture
of
the
expenses
that
are
going
to
be
realized.
U
That's
the
beginning,
question
with
what
we
anticipate
continuing
to
sponsor
and
subsidize
with
the
total
number
of
events
that
we
see
as
being
the
appetite
for
that
with
the
number
of
dates
we
have
left
available.
What
is
that
model?
Look
like
in?
What's
going
to
make
the
the
best
sense
for
how
to
do
that.
B
B
You
know
that
may
or
may
not
be
within
your
tolerance
level,
your
desired
level
of
use
and
that's
okay,
but
it's
just
a
matter,
then
of
of
what
that
model
looks
like
from
our
standpoint
in
terms
of
budgeting
and
and
again
that
goes
back
to
the
fact
that
I
believe
we
owe
you
an
accounting
for
what
that
looks
like,
because
I
don't
think
you've
had
benefit
of
that
yet
and
it
it
can
be.
It
can
be
substantial.
K
K
One
hundred
and
fifty
two
hundred
days
on
that
park,
so
I
think
the
appropriate
question
would
be
how
many
years
do
we
want
to
take
to
recover
capital
cost,
because
then
you
can
then
reduce
that
impact
through
scheduling,
because
we
don't
want
if
you
go
back
to
the
very
first
slide
assumptions
and
accessibility,
so
maybe
we
we
don't
do
hundred
shows
we
do
30
shows,
but
of
course,
the
more
you
scale
back,
because
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
other
community
events.
Recovery
time
is
going
to
take
a
lot
longer:
it's
not
ten
years.
K
Maybe
it's
fifteen
years,
so
we
should
have
that
information
of
that
graph.
What
does
that
schedule?
Look
like
what
is
an
acceptable
percentage
of
recovery
costs
per
show
to
the
promoters?
You
know
what
is
happening
out
there
in
the
market
in
the
industry,
for
those
people
and
then,
like
mr.
Julio,
said,
is
it
what
does
that
business
model?
Look
like?
Are
we
in
the
management
or
is
a
user
to
Graham
User
Agreement
that
there's
three
different
users
agreement
with
those
promoters?
Maybe
we
manage
until
there
is
a
a
Conservancy?
K
Maybe
we
just
manage
those
are
seven
concerts
and
those
twenty
plus
community
or
additional
community
events.
So
we
don't
want
to
shoot
ourself
in
the
foot
of
the
head
of
time
by
say
we
have
to
recover
all
the
costs.
We
know
it's
going
to
be
a
a
partnership
as
we
go
forward
and
I
think
the
citizens
with
what
they're
going
to
get
would
be
willing
and
I
think
we
should
be
agreeable
to
the
fact
that
we're
we're
making
this
investment
and
it
could
take
20
years
to
recover
all
capital
cost
so
I.
D
C
A
general
cluster
all
right,
but
but
here's
where
I'm
having
difficulty
with
this
conversation,
okay,
we're
talking
about
coachman
park
that
has
lots
of
aspects
to
it:
the
Gateway,
the
playground
area,
the
green
area
and
the
estuary
area
area.
Okay,
are
you
calling
that
capital
cost
or
are
you
talking
about
capital
cost?
The
cost
of
the
amphitheater
covered
seating,
Venu,
Venu,.
C
Okay-
and
this
is
this-
is
where
I'm
having
you
know
some
problems
because
we're
we
should
be
talking
about
the
whole
park
and
all
we're
doing
is
spending
time
focusing
on
getting
this.
This
covered
seating
area.
What,
if
we
don't
do
the
covered
seating
right
now,
I
mean
what's
most
important,
is
that
we
get
a
back-of-house
stage
area
that
is
finished
and
ready
to
use
right
away.
We've
we've
done
it
for
how
many
years
without
having
covered
a
covered
area,
and
let's
see
how
much,
let's
get
the
part
done.
C
Let's
get
the
whole
park
finished
and
get
people
excited
about
it,
and
then
we
can
come
back
and
visit
well.
If
we
put
this
covered,
you
know
space
or
how
much
more
that
will
cost
us,
because
we
already
have
a
successful
venue
operating.
We
don't
know,
you
know
a
promoters.
Gonna
come
in,
he
may
sell
3,000
seats
for
one
event,
but
for
another
event
he
may
be
able
to
sell
10,000
seats.
C
Are
we
able
to
provide
10,000
seats
if
the
promoter
needs
that
I
mean
I'm
just
sort
of
struggling
trying
to
work
under
this
assumption
that
we're
gonna
have
a
4,000
seat
covered
amphitheater
when
that's
not
really
what
we
ought
to
be
focusing
on
and
we
ought
to
be
focusing
on
finishing
the
entire
park
and
then
can
we
add
to
it
a
covered
seating
area,
two
or
three
years
down
the
road?
How
much
extra
would
it
cost
us.
D
C
But
but
I
my
question
isn't
to
change
it.
My
question
is:
can
we
face
it
so
that
we
can
just
concentrate
on
getting
the
the
back
of
stage
done
getting
the
entire
part
done
and
then
come
back
and
put
the
covered
seating?
You
know
at
a
later
date
what
what
what's
the
difference
in
the
cost
and
the
capital
costs
of
the
recovery.
K
Well,
thank
you
man.
This
whole
conversation
is
about
recovering
capital
costs
of
this
special
event:
venue,
the
amphitheater
and
the
covered
seating
altogether
and
how
we
manage
it.
What
is
the
business
plan
going
to
look
like
Wow
and
what
is
the
timeframe
of
recovery
and
what
is
the
impact
level
based
on?
How
many
shows
based
on
how
much
we
want
to
recover?
K
B
We
are
and
I
think
that
what
your
point
on
the
the
cost
recovery
percentage
is
very
important.
Here's
the
reality
is
that
the
the
number
of
events
it
takes
to
to
even
approach
breaking
even
with
the
venue
may
well
exceed
our
tolerance
level
as
a
community.
So
what
I
don't
want
you
to
be
is
surprised
next
year
or
when
these
things
come
together,
that
you
are
spending
more
and
more
budget
money
to
achieve
less
and
less
results.
B
I
we
I
feel,
like
you
know,
we
have
to
this
discussion
with
you
in
terms
of
what
your
expectations
are
and
if
the
expectations
are
that
we're
going
to
continue
to
you
know,
funding
amphitheatre
as
we
would.
You
know
any
large
public
capital
investment
like
this.
That's
okay,
you
know,
then
the
question
just
is:
what
is
our
level
comfort
level
as
a
community
in
terms
of
the
number
of
events,
but
the
numbers?
B
You
know
the
financial
benefit
of
the
bluff
and
other
activation
scenarios
in
order
to
fund
the
cost
of
the
park.
So
right
now,
I
think
on
the
on
the
venue
and
on
frankly,
am
kind
of
is
separating
the
two
things
about
the
construction
of
the
park
versus
the
construction
of
the
amphitheater
venue,
apples
and
oranges,
two
different
things.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
get
to
is
what
is
our
level
of
expectation
corporately
on
the
sustainability
of
the
venue,
so
that
we
can
make
a
good
rational
decision
about
how
we
sustain
the
rest
of
the
park?
B
C
Mr.
Pogue,
let
me
clarify,
while
we
voted
unanimously
for
a
covered
structure,
I
still
seeing
these
numbers
and
hearing
these
conversations
that
we've
had
with
staff.
You
know
I'm,
beginning
to
think
that
maybe
we
ought
to,
and
that's
why
I
said
phase
this
in,
to
see
that
we
get
to
success,
that
we
want
that
we
can
build
on
to
see
whether
or
not
our
recovery
would
you
know
and
activate
the
entire
part
before
we
go
to
something
you
know
on
the
bigger
scale.
I
B
B
You're
your
primary
partner
advocating
for
the
epithelia
Eckerd
Hall
folks,
I,
think
they've
expressed
an
interest
to
do
20
to
25
shows
the
Live
Nation
folks
have
expressed
its
similar
interests.
The
Florida
orchestra
has
suggested
up
to
12
events
a
year,
but
I
don't
know
maybe
y'all
could
tell
me
better
than
I
would
know
is
what
you
know:
do
they
pay?
Typically
there's?
Usually
some
funding
support
to
get
the
orchestra
here,
I,
don't
I,
certainly
am
NOT
I
doubt
that
we
could
count
on
them
to
pay
us
for
the
venue.
B
But
that's
you
know:
I
have
not
talked
to
the
orchestra
folks,
so
if
with
Live
Nation
and
Ruth
Eckerd
Hall
you've
got
50
events,
we
may
well
know
fairly
early
on
that
that
isn't
remotely
close
to
sustaining
14
million
dollars
where
the
capital
investment
in
the
venues.
So
what
what
do
we
want
to
do,
above
and
beyond
that
in
terms
of
establishing
that
level
of
use
that
provides
us,
the
the
the
revenue
stream
that
we
want
and
expect
to
get
or
do
we
do?
B
We
use
some
other
areas
of
the
equation
to
kind
of
balance
it
out
through
more
limited
use,
or
you
know
you
take
a
look
at
the
extent
of
the
facility,
as
the
mayor
suggested,
you
may
have
a
number
of
alternatives,
but
we
may
need
to
talk
ourselves
through
that.
This
is
an
important
time
to
do
that
when
we're
going
thirty
to
sixty
percent,
because
now
we're
we're
getting
very
close
to
having
construction,
which
we
will
do
on
the
balance
of
the
park.
So
you
know
that's,
that's
gonna
be
happening
soon.
L
And
if
I
can
add
to
what
the
the
mayor
said
when
you,
you
brought
the
point
of
basically
two
options
going
forward.
Looking
at
the
you
know,
how
do
we
phase
it
in
later
and
Tara
kivett
from
engineering
is
here
to
bring
that
up,
but
that
also
dictates
our
capital
expense
dollars,
because
the
early
kind
of
discussions
that
we've
had
is
that
that
will
be
a
significant
additional
cost.
Should
we
decide
to
phase
in
the
covering
later
I
don't
know
care
if
you
want
to
speak
to
that
quickly,.
AA
Tara
have
an
engineering
director,
let's
be
honest,
is
too
early.
We
don't
have
those
figures
yet
so
we've
brought
skanska
on
board
so
over
the
next
couple
months
will
work
diligently
on
trying
to
figure
out
what
that
would
cost.
You
know
if
we're
designing
it
or
if
we
would
have
to
do
the
underground
work
for
the
canopy
now
and
then
later
decide
not
to
build
the
canopy.
You
know
what
kind
of
costs
and
impact
it
would
do
to
the
project
to
phase
it.
The
way
we've
discussed.
C
H
H
We're
way
past,
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
we're
committed
we're
the
Piggott
breakfast.
You
know
the
chickens
involved
with
the
pigs
commit
we
are
and
we
are
we're
past
the
part
we're
committed
to
doing
the
entire
park,
the
playground
area,
the
lake
area,
the
and
the
the
the
performance
venue
everything
it's
all
going
to
get
done.
H
H
We're
gonna
build
the
playground,
we're
gonna
build
the
light.
We're
gonna
build
the
venue,
the
cover
the
covered
seating
part.
It's
all
part
of
the
overall
financing
and
the
design
that
we've
gone
through.
I
have
questions
about
the
timing
of
what's
beginning
built.
When
and-
and
you
know
what
what?
H
What
is
the
interruption
gonna
be,
for
you
know,
Jazz
holiday
are
we're
not
gonna,
be
able
to
have
Jazz
holiday
one
year
or
we're
gonna
have
to
have
just
holiday,
maybe
a
spectrum
field
for
one
year,
while
all
this
constructions
going
on
because
of
the
unavailability
or
you
know
the
condition
of
the
of
the
park
itself
they're
under
construction.
These
are
all
questions
that
will
get
answered
at
the
proper
time,
but
I'm
trying
not
to
get
hung
up
in
the
minutiae
of
things.
H
B
B
Everything
that
that's
the
public
has
seen
I
think
the
question
here
is
really
about
what
the
full
cost
is
of
the
venue
and
carrying
the
venue
and
how
much
you're
willing
to
subsidize
it
year
in
and
year
out-
and
that's
that's
a
pretty
simple
question,
and
so
these
assumptions
that
you're
giving
us
are
important
because
there's
almost
any
way,
you
look
at
this
scenario
right
now,
there's
a
substantial
gap
and
I.
My
my
my
belief
is
that
I
we
cannot
leave
you
surprised
about
that.
B
So
we're
not
we're
not
going
to
so,
but
I
think
the
lost
my
train
of
thought.
There
I
think
that's
I,
don't
want
to
oh
I
know
what
the
other
thing
was.
We're
gonna
build
a
park.
The
park
is
not
a
question.
The
other
thing
is
that
jazz
holiday
will
occur
at
coachmen
Park
next
year
and
we're
going
to
work
around
that
with
Skanska
and
our
team
to
make
sure
that
the
Jazz
holiday
is
is
remains
consistent,
I,
I,.
C
Think
mr.
Hamilton
summarized
what
all
of
us
are
thinking
fairly
well,
but
but
in
terms
of
the
maintaining
the
park,
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
also
a
clarification
as
to
what
is
gonna.
How
many
additional
FTS
are
you
talking
about
to
maintain
the
venue
with
the
covered
seating
and
how
many
FTEs
are
you
needing
to
maintain
the
park?
Are
you
using
those
numbers
for
the
entire
park
or
just
for
the
venue
part.
C
D
Mr.
horn,
well
I'm
just
gonna,
say
based
on
you.
This
conversation
you've
given
us
a
good
idea
of
the
kind
of
data
that
we
need
to
come
back
to
you
with
and
I'm
committed
to
making
sure
that
we're
operating
with
the
right
assumptions
case
in
point
jazz
holiday,
because
we've
gotten
millions
of
questions
about
Jazz
holiday
right
now,
as
of
the
16th
of
December,
our
intent
is
for
Jazz
holiday
to
always
occur
annually.
Now,
what's
going
to
impact,
that
is
our
willingness
to
make
sure
we
pay
the
cost
associated
with
insuring
that
that
can
happen.
D
So
that
means
that
we're
committed
coming
back
to
you
and
telling
you
okay,
to
keep
the
doors
open
for
Jazz
holiday
on
an
annual
basis
until
everything
is
completed.
This
is
what
we're
gonna
have
to
spend
in
order
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
hamper
construction
efforts
to
achieve
the
goals
you
know,
I
mean
I
mean
you
know
the
contractor
may
have
to
stand
down.
You
know
when
he
would
otherwise
be
working.
D
C
B
Really
loves
our
Park,
they
love
our
Park.
We.
C
C
B
B
What
we've
talked
to
our
consultant
about
is
a
kind
of
a
two-step
process,
RFQ
qualifications
and
then
transitioning
that
to
an
RFP
later
on
I.
Think
in
a
nutshell,
what
we're
going
to
do
is
to
have
all
three
of
the
block.
I
know
a
number
of
you
expressed
interest
that
maybe
one
master
developer.
One
person
who
might
have
an
idea
about
all
properties
would
have
an
advantages,
so
it
probably
does
have
some
advantages
and
disadvantages.
So
the
way
we're
going
to
approach
that
is
having
qualifications
really
kind
of
broadly
initiate
our
outreach.
B
B
The
RFQ
will
be
will
be
flexible.
It
will
express
our
priorities,
such
as
Harborview
inquire,
the
market
perspective
on
each
aspect,
whether
we
should
look
at
residential
apartments
or
condominium
or
hotel
overnight
accommodations.
We're
going
to
have
that
be
a
pretty
broad,
broadly
defined.
A
request
August
as
a
referendum
deadline,
is
probably
not
realistic.
I
wanted
to.
Let
you
all
know
that
we
can
talk
about
that,
a
little
bit
more.
If
you
want
or
later
we
want
to
assess
the
market,
tolerance
for
lease
or
sale
of
these
various
properties.
B
Condominium
really
Elise
is
probably
land
leases,
probably
out
of
the
question,
but
for
a
lot
of
other
uses
and
activities,
land
leases
would
be
be
an
alternative.
Potentially,
we
want
to
assess
possible
partnerships
that
might
come
out
of
that
request
for
qualifications,
people
taking
a
big
view,
for
example,
parking
other
people
interested
in
in
partnering
with
us
with
parking.
B
We
want
to
help
to
clarify
further
at
a
higher
level,
are
established
redevelopment
goals,
offer
to
the
descriptions,
submission
requirements
and
evaluation
criteria.
So
our
consultant
is
working
on
that
with
us
through
this
process
and
then
what
we'll
do
is
finalize
those
assumptions
in
January
with
you.
So
that's
a
little
update
on
that
RFP
RFQ
process,
but
I
think
it
maybe
reflects
a
little
more.
B
Some
of
the
comments
that
you
all
have
made
over
the
last
few
months
about
that
that
broad
look,
even
as
we're
trying
to
narrow
a
focus
on
some
individual
properties,
the
Harborview
again,
we
may
need
to
participate.
We
may
need
to
financially
participate
with
that
are.
Ultimately,
our
goal
would
be
to
not
have
to
financially
participate
in
the
other.
B
K
K
You
very
you
said
it
was
gonna,
be
ready
by
hopefully
by
January
I
understood,
there's
going
to
be
a
witness,
RFQ,
there's
going
to
be
a
big
marketing
piece.
That's
gonna!
Go
with
it!
We,
when
the
council
expect
to
get
that
marketing,
because
you're
looking
to
us
to
bring
you
an
interest
ahead
of
time
or
if
anybody's
interested.