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D
E
Will
be
part
of
our
recommendation?
Okay,
absolutely
now
we
didn't
look
at
that
as
part
of
this
scope.
This
was
just
really
for
culture
and
then
for
your
Workforce
practices,
but
that
will
be
kind
of
as
we
think
about
the
next
level
and
where
you
want
to
see
where
your
Baseline
is.
That
would
be
one
of
the
areas
for
sure:
okay,
fantastic.
D
D
A
Questions
kind
of
question
about
the
over
time.
This
is
under
initial
recommendations,
continued
over
time,
replace
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
team
as
equal
employment
opportunity
investigators,
that's
a
very
aggressive
word
to
me
invested
if
we're
trying
to
get
people
to
trust
this
process
and
everything
else.
Why
was
that
title
chosen.
E
Oftentimes,
that's
the
title:
that's
used
for
that
kind
of
a
role,
but
I
I
agree
with
you
that
that's
not
a
great
word,
so
we
can
absolutely
change
that.
But
right
now
it's
really
getting
at
the
you
know.
Kind
of
the
realm
of
the
work
that
they're
focused
on
so
much
of
their
time
is
spent
doing
a
lot
of
that
kind
of
work,
and
so
we
can
definitely
change
that
word
for
sure.
C
F
Morning,
Council
Alex
Leon,
an
engineering
manager
for
Clearwater
gas.
This
season
is
looking
for.
You
accepted
for
a
five
foot
wide
Eastman
within
this
property
to
serve
a
commercial
property
for
multiple
businesses.
A
Any
questions,
so
the
yellow
line
is
the
easement.
F
I,
don't
have
in
front
of
me,
but
yes,
typically,
we
highlighted
in
yellow
and
red.
But
yes,
it
it'll
show
the
easement
going
around
the
property.
A
F
Right
so
we
have
multiple
businesses
that
have
committed
to
having
gas,
so
normally
we'll.
We
would
only
come
one
way
and
expand
as
we
need
to,
but
at
this
at
this
time
we
have
one
roughly
in
the
middle
one
at
the
end
of
it.
So
we
connected
the
loop
to
finish
the
loop
out.
Okay,
also,
the
properties
over
over
time
that
grow
in
different
types
of
businesses.
So
it
allows
opportunities
for
other
ones
to
come
in.
G
Good
Morning
America
council
members,
city
manager,
Jennings,
my
name
is
Tony
mcgannis,
a
gas
superintendent.
These
materials
are
to
be
utilized
for
meter
sets
and
piping
owned
by
the
commercial
and
residential
patrons
we
serve
Bert
low,
dovetech
and
Tim
Paco
were
the
most
responsive
and
lowest
bidders
or
providers
each
are
being
awarded
line
items
and
are
identified
in
your
agenda.
Packets
and,
if
you
have
any
questions,
I
would
gladly
ask
those
questions.
H
Sure
just
help
me
understand,
so
this
isn't
a
contract
for
products
right.
I
H
G
So
these
materials,
when
they
got
to
bid
they
get
the
lowest
available
pricing,
and
if
our
providers
can
maintain
those
pricing
or
within
the
margins
that
the
city
seems
to
accept
for
increases
due
to
outside
factors,
they
have
the
opportunity
to
roll
that
pricing
to
additional
times.
This.
D
D
Are
you
good
thanks
I
most
small
business
enterprises
applied
looking
at
the
bed
tabulation
and
also
no
one
in
Pinellas
applied,
or
does
this
work
I'm
just
thinking
about
keeping
it
local
so.
G
F
J
A
F
Once
again,
sooner
as
well,
five
foot
Eastman
through
the
property-
this
will
be
a
residential
Community
again
Town
Homes,
as
well
anywhere
from
gas
ranges
to
water
heaters.
Any.
K
Item
for
you
today
is
the
renovation
and
refurbishment
of
the
Beach
Walk
Promenade
on
the
East
and
the
West
sides
of
Gulf
Boulevard
from
the
opal
sands
on
the
south
to
Pier
60
on
the
north.
It
has
been
eight
years
since
we
did
any
Renovations
of
Beach,
Walk
and
basically
16
years
since
the
Inception
of
beachwalk.
K
This
proposal
will
we
will
refurbish
all
of
the
hardscapes
that
are
there
simply
by
removing
all
the
contaminants.
We
will
pressure,
wash
it
we'll
seal
the
concrete
walkways
and
the
structures
which
include
the
light
bollards
and
also
the
seat
walls
that
are
out
there.
We
will
seal
all
of
that.
The
ceiling
will
usually
go
for
three
to
four
years,
so
we'll
be
doing
just
the
seating
again.
Also
involved
in
this
will
be
the
replacement
of
many
of
the
amenities
that
are
out
there.
K
The
water
fountains,
the
showers,
the
benches
that
are
that
are
also
included
there.
The
way
finding
signage
will
be
redone.
There
are
shade
structures
that
are
out
there,
that
that
will
also
be
refurbished
with
new
shade
structures,
the
lighthouse
Towers
I
think
front
of
the
Sheridan
or
somewhere.
Those
will
also
be
painted
again
and
the
ID
signs
that
are
basically
on
the
North
and
the
South
side
when
you
come
in
the
lighting
on
those
needs
to
be
repaired.
K
K
During
this
time,
access
to
the
beach
beach
walk
and
the
businesses
and
Resorts
a
Long,
Beach
Walk
will
all
be
open.
There
will
be
access
to
them
at
all
times.
In
order
to
do
this,
we
have
to
certainly
work
closely
with
a
contractor
and
with
all
the
businesses
along
that
area
and
we've
developed
a
detailed.
We
call
it
a
management
of
pedestrian
mop,
a
mop
plant,
it's
not
like
an
mot
but
similar
to
it.
K
Okay
and
the
project
is
divided
into
18
different,
actually
Five
Section,
but
18
different
work
areas
which
will
have
their
own
maintenance
of
pedestrian
plant
weekly
and
monthly
updates
will
be
available
to
the
public
by
way
of
the
website.
So
everyone
can
keep
in
touch
that
way
and
it
should
be
noted.
At
the
same
time,
the
city
staff
is
going
to
go
in
and
replace
all
the
Landscaping
as
we
do
it
along
the
way,
because
the
Landscaping
has
gotten
kind
of
laggy
and
old,
and
so
we're
going
to
replace
that.
K
J
Yeah
or
I
thought
we
weren't
going
to
put
10
contingencies
in
contracts.
I
thought
we
already
had
that
written
in
somewhere,
because
whenever
you're
talking
about
a
contract-
and
you
state-
you
have
a
10
contingency,
don't
they
inflate
it
to
meet
the
contingency.
K
They
usually
do
not
at
least
this
contractor.
Doesn't
we
the
reason
we
have
this
again,
because
there
are
so
many
items
and
it's
such
a
long,
the
length
and
breadth
of
the
project
is,
is
enormous,
the
number
of
square
foot
you
know
all
of
the
the
caulking
we
have
all
the
sidewalks
we
have,
but
we
have
included
10
percent
and
are
continuing
now.
I
know
that
the
the
attorney
was
going
to
look
into
that
on
I.
K
Think
the
reason
there
is
an
ability,
an
engineering,
might
be
able
to
tell
us
to
put
10
on
contracts
that
are
for
the
not
everyone
but
the
contracts
for
what
I
want
to
say.
The
the.
K
K
Was
your
question
originally
I
think
on
another
item
we
had
and
it
was
for
products
put
a
10
percent
on.
It
was
a
playground
item
we
had
and
we
put
10
on
top
of
that
to
purchase
playground
equipment
and
that's
when
we
took
that
out.
Okay,
that
this
has
to
do
with
the
c-mart
contract
and
I
believe
that
it's
in
someone
from
engineering
or
somewhere
it
might
be,
or
we
can
get
that
back
to
you
on
that.
D
Well,
I
think
a
part
of
our
discussion,
council,
member,
Albert
and
I
think
we
had
a
few
a
couple
months
ago
or
whatever
was
that
when
you
have
a
10
contingency,
whether
it's
a
product
or
a
service,
it's
kind
of
an
open
door
to
you
got
a
nice
little
buffer
there
and
if
you
want
to
use
it,
it's
already
been
approved
and
so
I
thought.
That
was
more
of
the
conversation
we
had
that
we
weren't
going
to
do
that.
D
K
L
L
You
know,
with
Goods,
in
the
ordinance
as
currently
written,
there
is
a
contemplation
for
potential
contingencies
for
construction,
just
because
construction
contracts,
even
ones
that
are
relatively
straightforward,
like
this
one,
can
involve
a
lot
of
unknowns.
But
it's
certainly
on
the
commodity
side.
I
would
recommend
against
including
any
sort
of
contingency,
because
that
price
is
already
known.
It's
not
going
to
change,
or
should
it
change,
but
with
this
they
could
run
into
something
unknown,
and
that
could
happen
in
any
construction
environment.
L
L
That's
how
it's
written
currently
in
the
alertness,
I
will
say
in
general,
though
it
is
up
to
council's
discretion
in
terms
of
setting
the
ordinance
and
so
Council
has
as
much
Freedom
as
you
like
to
either
make
contingencies
as
broadly
available
or
as
infrequently
available
as
you
like,
and
to
any
extent
that
you
like.
So
that
is
a
policy
level
discussion
for
Council
to
have.
If
you're
interested.
D
Well,
I,
just
yeah
I
mean
I
I
mean.
Could
we
give
direction
now
that
contingencies
aren't
part
of
I,
don't
want
to
slow
down
work
I
mean
if
something
goes
over
and
they
and
the
contractor
supplier
needs
additional
funds.
If
they've
got
a
direct
line
to
the
city
manager
to
authorize
it,
that
seems
fine
I.
K
Think
the
issue
we
have
with
not
just
Parks
and
Recreation,
but
engineering
projects
and
all
the
other
projects
that
come
before
you
if
you'll
notice,
most
all
of
them,
have
10
percent
in
there,
because
there
are
construction
projects,
so
it
will
impact
not
just
these,
and
the
next
item
you
have
up
is
also
has
a
10
in
it
as
well
again,
it's
a
construction
project.
So
it's.
N
Morning,
Tara
kivot
city
engineer
it
it
it
in
my
opinion,
as
as
Mr
Mercola
said,
if
we
manage
it
correctly,
so
staff
is
key
to
make
it
successful
and
so
I
believe
it
does
give
us
some
flexibility,
especially
for
the
you
know.
New
construction
is
a
little
different,
but
the
bulk
of
our
projects
that
we
bring
to
you
are
renovation
related,
and
so
we
frequently
find
things
that
are
unknown.
So
it
gives
us
a
timing
issue
that
we
can
deal
with
that.
We
typically
already
have
established
unit
prices.
N
So
it's
not
like
we're
truly
paying
change
order
costs
it's
frequently
an
overrun
of
a
quantity.
We
never
just
approve
them.
They
are
never
allowed
to
move
forward
with
using
contingency
until
they
have
staff
approval.
We
look
at
it
tightly.
We
frequently
negotiate
back
and
forth
with
them
for
a
lower
price,
sometimes
when
it
is
a
complicated,
unknown,
we'll
even
do
time
and
materials,
and
then
we
have
our
construction
inspector
out
there.
N
J
Opera
yeah
just
to
follow
up,
you
know,
as
a
retired
general
contractor,
it's
I
see
it
in
every
contract.
You
have
to
put
it
in
I,
understand
that
but
and
and
I
thought
the
mechanics
of
this
was
the
approval
process
to,
but
I
I
didn't
think
we
needed
to
discuss
that
I
think
it
should
be
in
a
contract
without
I.
Don't
know
how
it
would
be.
J
You
know
if,
if
the
10
percent
is
something
and
that's
it,
you
know
the
percentages
in
line
with
what
most
contingencies
are,
but
I
don't
know
why
it
has
to
keep
coming
to
us
to
approve
a
10
contingency.
It
should
be
something
that
maybe
just
automatically
put
in
on
any
kind
of
capital
projects
or
something.
N
Correct
no
art
is
correct:
you're,
not
approving
you're,
approving
the
contract
as
a
whole,
they're
just
pointing
out
that
it
includes
a
10
percent
containers
which
should
be
very
transparent
and,
like
I
said
even
our
friend
and
documents,
our
construction
specifications
state
in
section
three
that
the
city
has
to
approve
use
of
the
contingency.
It's
not
a
it's,
not
just
a
blanket.
J
N
A
Was
there
any
discussion
about
spending
a
little
more
and
accelerating
the
project?
Nine
months
is
like
an
amount
of
time.
Obviously
it
runs
in
and
through
spring
break.
I
was
curious
if
there
was
any
a.
K
Lot
of
discussion
of
that.
Yes,
one
of
the
reasons
that
it
is
so
long
and
we
don't
believe
that
it
will
be
that
long,
but
there
are
times
when
we'll
completely
pull
off.
For
example,
during
the
Christmas
season,
the
two
or
three
weeks
there
we're
going
to
ask
them
to
leave
we're
also
going
to
ask
the
contractor
at
times
you
know
for
any
special
event
that
isn't
held
on
the
beach
so
that
they
won't
be
there
to
to
interfere
with
that,
so
they
basically
have
to
move
up
and
reset.
K
You
know
during
those
times
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
for
the
length
of
it
and
I
do
understand
your
question.
We
can
certainly
see
if
they
can
get
some
additional
help
during
that
time,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
components
here.
I
mean
we're
sending
off.
You
know
you
take
shower
towers
down,
go
get
them
painted,
they
got
to
come
back,
you
know,
and
a
lot
of
most
of
it
is
just
on
the
ground
in
a
cleaning
so
to
speak,
and.
A
K
The
reason
we
started
on
the
east
side
was:
we
have
some
the
seat.
Walls
have
a
long
longer
span,
it'll
take
almost
two
to
three
months
to
get
them
manufactured,
and
so
we
didn't
want
to
start
on
the
on
basically
on
the
west
side,
but
not
having
those
available
to
fix
during
that
time
when
we
were
in
those
sections,
so
we
started
on
the
on
the
east
side
because
there's
not
the
seat
walls
that
we
have
to
replace
in
that
side.
That's
that's
the
only
reason
why
we
will
jump
quickly.
K
K
Mayor
deputy
director
of
Parks
and
Recreation,
the
council
recently
approved
a
third
quarter,
amendment
to
add
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
a
capital
project
to
renovate
the
city
cemetery.
This
proposal
is
part
of
that
overall
Cemetery
refurbishment.
It
includes
the
repair
and
resurfacing
of
the
asphalt
roads
within
the
cemetery
available
for
any
questions.
Any.
D
I
just
had
a
brief
question
as
I
was
looking
at
this
agenda
item
and
then
going
back
to
our
Dei
discussion
and
presentation
at
the
beginning,
so
we
have
approved
13
construction
managers
at
risk
for
continuing
contracts.
D
So
my
question
is:
are
any
of
them
owned
by
women
or
minorities?
Thinking
about
Dei?
Can
we
be
intentional
here
and
perhaps
break
some
of
this
work
down
into
smaller
pieces
to
allow
local
business
owners
to
come
in
and
do
the
work
just
just
wanted
to.
K
O
I
D
C
P
P
This
event
requires
us
to
complete
a
use
agreement
with
Jones
Lang,
a
LaSalle
America's
Inc,
which
is
the
managing
group
for
the
mall,
and
this
agreement
includes
an
indemnity
clause
has
to
come
before
Council
the
police
legal
advisor
has
reviewed
and
approved
this
document.
Chief
Slaughter
recently
brought
a
similar
document
to
you
guys.
It
refers
to
National
Night
Out,
which
is
October
4th.
The
managing
entity
of
this
property
was
able
to
get
approval
for
both
at
the
same
time.
So
that's
why
we're
back
here
today
to
answer
any
questions.
Any.
C
Q
Good
morning,
Suzanne
Kramer
real
estate
services
coordinator.
The
purpose
of
this
vacation
is
to
accommodate
improvements
to
the
handicap
ramp
and
covered
entrance
to
the
building,
as
well
as
prevent
dangerous
through
traffic.
In
the
alley
there
are
CDM
private
Utilities
in
the
alley,
so
utility
easements
will
be
reserved
for
the
city
and
for
private
utilities,
as
well
as
a
pedestrian
Ingress
and
egress
easement.
Over
and
across
the
entire
vacated
alley
in
favor
of
the
general
public
city
staff
have
reviewed
the
vacation
and
have
no
objection.
Q
Okay,
this
vacation
is
intended
to
clear
title
on
the
last
remaining
easement
on
the
old
Harbor
View
parcel
by
the
city
to
formally
vacate
our
interest.
Clearing
title
is
intended
to
allow
for
subsequent
conveyance
and
development
of
the
parcel.
There
are
most
City
Utilities
present
within
the
easement
and
City
staff
have
no
objection
to
the
vacation.
Q
Q
R
Good
morning,
Connie
Potters
I'm
the
lead
librarian
for
the
acquisition
system.
Here
at
the
library
the
library
would
like
to
request
approved
for
the
library's
three
largest
vendors
for
the
upcoming
year.
The
amount
requested
is
485
thousand
dollars
to
provide
materials
for
all
the
library
branches.
Here
in
Clearwater
with
the
funding,
the
library
would
purchase
a
wide
array
of
popular
materials
for
the
public.
We
would
purchase
best
selling
fiction
and
non-fiction
books
for
our
patrons.
The
funding
will
also
provide
access
to
electronic
books
on
overdrive,
Hoopa,
canopy
and
free
will.
R
These
applications
allow
Clearwater
patrons
access
to
ebooks
downloadable
devices,
movies
audiobooks
from
their
home
and
from
their
apps.
We
would
purchase
children's
books
graphic
novels
for
kids
and
teenagers
to
enjoy.
The
funding
also
provides
for
the
latest
Blu-ray
and
DVD
movie
releases,
electronic
games,
audiobooks
and
CD
music.
We
also
purchase
additional
formats,
such
as
large
print
books,
Spanish
language
books,
magazines,
newspapers,
reference
databases
for
research,
special
Collections
and
local
history,
materials
for
Clearwater.
I
S
Well,
it's
due
to
vacancies
and
also
the
the
purchase
orders
that
we
did
were
just
before
pandemic
and
when
pandemic
hit.
We
didn't
really
know
what
was
going
to
happen.
Are
we
going
to
have
anything
to
do?
Are
we
going
to
be
here?
Are
we
not
going
to
be
here
and
lo
and
behold,
the
increase
in
permits
and
work
just
was
crazy.
J
What
are
we
doing
on
the
permit
approvals
time
wise
or
we
still.
S
Well,
that's
one
reason:
what
that
we,
that
we
do
this
so
that
we
can
keep
our
time
frame
reasonable
and
we
have
stuck
to
our
goals
all
through
the
pandemic
and
we've
for
you
mostly
made
it
we're
behind
it
a
little
bit,
but
not.
J
That
bad,
are
you
considering
opening
the
building
department
back
again,
as
it
was
before
pandemic,
where,
as.
T
Good
morning,
mayor
Consul,
Dan,
mayor
I.T,
director.
This
item
is
for
the
installation
of
public
Wi-Fi,
publicly
accessible
Wi-Fi
in
the
downtown
area
stretch
from
Cleveland
Street
from
Osceola
to
Myrtle.
T
This
will
provide
us
the
opportunity
to
give
people
access
to
information,
but
also
includes
a
communication
platform
that
allows
us
to
see
who
is
logged
onto
the
network
and
to
share
information
with
them.
Specifically,
this
will
tie
into
the
Imagine
project
when
it's
fully
built.
We
thought
it
was
a
good
decision
to
test
it
in
this
environment
for
a
period
of
time.
Prior
to
that
build
out.
T
J
So
this
has
kind
of
been
tossed
around
for
a
while.
This
whole
idea
of
lighting
up
the
downtown
and
I
guess
mainly
for
the
people
on
the
street,
but
mostly
for
businesses
too,
is
this:
is
this
just
for
the
street
lighting
up,
or
are
you
doing
something
with
bandwidth.
T
It
is,
it
is
not
designed
technically
we're
not
allowed
to
resell
bandwidth
from
form
providers,
so
this
is
free.
Businesses
could
choose,
but
we're
not
under
a
service
level
obligation
in
in
the
way
this
is
structured.
So
it
is
not
a
commercial
venture
to
provide
bandwidth
services
to
to
commercial
operations.
J
So,
for
this
amount
425,
what
are
they?
What
are
they
installing.
T
Three
years
so
in
this
area,
one
of
the
reasons
we
want
this
route
is
the
construction
of
the
downtown
Corridor
is
complete
and
it's
all
pavers
and
probably
a
maybe
a
cheaper
way,
would
be
put
our
own
fiber
in,
but
we
would
tear
up
a
lot
of
sidewalks
in
the
process
and
we
didn't
want
to
do
that.
There's
a
limited
number
of
vendors
that
we
have
that
maintain
that
infrastructure.
T
J
J
O
This
item
also
presents
an
opportunity
for
sponsorship,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
we're
bringing
this
forward
is.
We
believe
that,
with
the
park
coming
online
next
June
that,
as
as
all
of
you
know,
we
are
seeking
sponsorships
in
the
park
and
also
at
the
amphitheater.
We
see
this
as
a
really
a
great
opportunity
for
a
company
to
want
to
sponsor
the
downtown
Wi-Fi.
O
Therefore,
mitigating
the
costs
to
the
city,
so
I
work
closely
with
Dan
on
this
agenda
item
he's
done
a
terrific
job
in
in
laying
out
what
really
the
equipment
that
needs
to
happen
in
the
park,
but
also
along
Cleveland
Street,
and
our
hope
is-
is
to
to
expand
this
out
to
East
Gateway
as
well.
But
this
was
kind
of
the
pilot
that
we
wanted
to
do
to
see
how
it
works.
T
Out
of
coming
out
of
one
of
my
cips
yeah,
we
worked
with
the
superlative
group
through
the
parks
and
rec
Chris.
Coke
has
worked
with
them
closely
on
all
the
sponsorship
opportunities.
We
presented
the
solution
to
them
and
asked
what
they
thought.
The
revenue
potential
was,
so
the
number
I
referenced
was
150
annually,
which
would
be
the
top
end.
T
There's
two
different
advertising
opportunities
on
the
sign
on
process,
plus
we
can
promote
businesses
downtown
with
it,
we'll
be
able
to
see
who
is
logged
on
we
when
you,
when
you
accept
the
use
of
the
Wi-Fi,
it
gives
us
permission
to
send
you
text
messaging
period
of
time.
We
could
say:
please
visit,
you
know
the
downtown
businesses
after
the
show.
Maybe
you
get
a
discount
could
share
Vital
Information
if
there
was
a
problem
or
it
was
traffic.
So
there
are
things
that
that
we
think
it
brings
from
a
value
and
communication
standpoint.
U
This
morning,
mayor
council,
Eric
Dandy
with
the
aviation
director,
interestingly
enough,
we're
here
today
to
discuss
the
providing
an
update
on
the
marina
project,
Redevelopment
project
and
we're
talking
with
the
team
here
out
in
the
hallway-
and
you
know
it's
not
lost
occurred
in
South
Florida
and
all
the
images
we've
been
seeing
about
marinas
and
vessels.
U
So
it's
it's
a
little
bit
awkward
timing
for
for
such
a
presentation.
But
it's
a
reality.
We're
in
I'd
like
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
the
purpose
here
today
is
to
bring
you
up
to
speed
on
what
was
authorized
back
in
last
October
design
and
permitting
of
new
Marina
out
of
Clearwater
Beach.
But
it's
really
a
two-fold
session.
It's
the
presentation
and
it's
request
to
integrate
a
design
of
a
parking
garage
into
that
project
and
I'll
Broach.
U
That
topic
in
more
detail
subsequent
to
the
presentation,
but
I
think
during
the
course
of
the
presentation.
You'll
recognize
some
of
the
compromises
that
we
have
to
make
understanding
that
much
of
what
we
have
in
the
existing
Arena
can't
exist
in
today's
environment
because
of
Permitting
and
over
water
structures
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
it's
just
something
to
be
mindful
of,
and
I
want
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
the
history
out
there
I
think
most
of
you
got
the
initial
presentation,
but
the
brainer
was
built
in
the
50s.
U
It's
had
updates
over
the
years
the
buildings,
the
original
building,
but
the
docks
have
been
rebuilt
on
several
occasions.
The
latest
rebuild
was
in
the
70s
and
then
early
80s
the
city's
been
been
trying
to
get
that
Marina
rebuilt
since
05,
and
they
had
a
plan
to
rebuild
just
the
over
water
structures
in
o5,
and
that
was
about
eight
million
dollars
in
2005
money.
U
This
is
a
much
more
ambitious
plan
because
we
recognize
we
have
utility
issues
out
there
because
they're
the
same
age,
if
not
older,
than
some
of
the
structures,
so
the
design
team
was
was
chosen
and
this
Council
authorized
them
to
move
forward.
As
a
team
of
Market,
nickel
I
have
Nicole
Paulie
here
today
to
give
you
the
presentation
and
then
she
and
I
will
remain
at
the
podium
and
be
prepared
to
answer
any
questions
related
to
the
project
and
I'll
segue
into
why
the
parking
garage
is
is
part
of
this
discussion
today.
U
V
So
when
we
were
first
scoping
this
project
with
the
city,
these
are
the
goals
that
they
conveyed
to
us.
We
need
to
replace
the
Aging
existing
Timber
dock
infrastructure,
with
floating
docks
and
to
replace
and
modernize
the
existing
Utilities
in
doing
so
optimize
the
marina
slip
mix
and
the
layout
to
expand
the
marina
further
to
the
South
to
maximize
the
city-owned
submerged
lands,
but
also
to
maintain
the
existing
slip
count
and
the
balance
between
the
recreational
and
Commercial
vessels.
V
Some
of
the
structures
can
no
longer
be
located
on
the
docks
for
permitting
requirements,
and
so
we
needed
to
find
Upland
storage
and
ticket
sales
opportunities
for
these
different
commercial
operators,
and
there
was
also
a
request
to
replace
the
sidewalk
in
an
attempt
to
reduce
the
congestion
along
Coronado,
where
the
the
ticket
booths
are
located.
There
bottom
right
of
this
photo
shows
it
well
and
also
to
activate
Marina
walk,
which
is
what
we're
calling
you
know,
informally
at
least
the
area
that
connects
to
beachwalk
and
runs
along
the
marina
Waterfront.
V
So
I
think
everybody
knows
the
project
area,
but
the
area
hatched
in
yalo
is
is
pretty
much
the
city-owned
submerged
lands.
That's
the
southern
boundary
does
extend
further
to
the
east,
but
yeah
there's
a
channel
there.
So
there's
currently
165
slips
and
you
know
we're
looking
to
maintain
that
you'll
also
see
there's
an
area
hatched
in
red
up
towards
the
top
here,
and
that
is
the
sidewalk
replacement
in
some
of
the
areas
we're
proposing
for
to
support
some
of
the
storage.
And
you
know,
ticket
kiosk
opportunities.
V
So
at
the
start
of
the
project,
we
completed
a
marina
Market
study
to
look
at
the
the
market
and
come
up
with
a
slip
mix
for
this
project.
We
also
completed
some
commercial
tenant
Outreach
and
we
did
field
work,
geotechnical,
engineering
surveying
and
some
Marine
resource
study,
a
couple
of
field
assessments
and
all
of
that
went
into
the
development
of
a
marina
master
plan
upon
completion
of
that
in
March
we
attended
the
Marine
Advisory
board
meeting
and
also
a
bprc
meeting
to
review
the
project
and,
following
that,
we
initiated
the
environmental
permitting.
V
We
attended
pre-application
meetings
with
the
agencies
and
we
have
initiated
permitting
with
Florida
Department
of
Environmental
Protection
and
the
Army
Corps
at
this
time,
and
that
process
is
ongoing.
We
also
applied
for
a
transient
boating
Grant
and
the
city
has
put
together
an
RFQ
for
a
selection
of
a
construction
manager
at
risk.
V
So
right
now
permitting
is
ongoing
and
30
design.
We
paused
temporarily
on
and
hope
to
continue
that
this
month
and
then,
following
that
60
design
and
100
sign,
but
then
the
construction
manager
will
select
a
bid
and
will
hopefully
begin
construction.
V
So,
throughout
this
process,
we're
going
to
highlight
a
couple
of
risks:
we've
identified
in
the
project
can
talk
about
them
in
more
detail
after
the
fact,
and
one
of
them
is
that
we
recognize
that
there
is
a
a
Parking
Challenge
out
at
the
Clearwater
Beach
in
this
project
does
propose
a
slight
parking
reduction
of
about
40
slips
spaces
and
also
a
portion
of
the
existing
Marina
was
built
within
the
federal
Channel,
and
so
there
is
a
petition
to
de-authorize
a
segment
of
the
federal
channel
to
continue
this
project
dredge
disposal.
V
The
existing
material
is
very
lightweight
and
Mucky,
which
is
difficult
to
handle,
and
so
we're
looking
for
an
opportunity
and
a
location
where
that
can
be
barged
and
handled
and
disposed
of,
so
it
doesn't
have
to
be
handled
on
site.
There's
some
minor
contaminants
in
it
that
make
things
like
a
park.
V
A
difficult
question,
so
identifying
a
dredge
disposal
location
is
is
a
risk
that
we
need
to
work
through,
and
then
you
probably
see
this
on
all
of
your
presentations,
but
inflation
and
supply
chain
issues
continue
to
plug
the
construction
industry,
and
so
we
are
doing
what
we
can
to
mitigate
and
plan
for
those
risks.
V
A
quick
summary
on
the
marina
Market
study.
We
did
prepare
a
report
for
this,
but
you
know
briefly
to
summarize,
we
looked
at
both
what
we
call
the
geographic
Market,
which
is
the
area
that's
in
close
driving
distance
to
the
marina
and
a
demographic
Market
where
we
looked
at
destination,
marinas
that
expand
a
little
bit
outside
of
that
it's
more
of
a
focus
on
transient
voters
or
people
that
are
coming
in
from
outside.
V
We
also
looked
at
marinas
that
were
at
least
100
slips,
because
there's
a
lot
of
smaller
and
residential
and
private
marinas
around
here
that
we
didn't
consider
as
part
of
a
slit
mix
discussion-
and
you
know,
like
I,
mentioned
location
relative
to
a
population
Center
like
Sarasota,
Bradenton,
St,
Pete
or
all
locations
as
well
as
Clearwater.
So
what
we
identified
across
the
board
is
there's
High
occupancy.
There
is
demand
for
boat
slips
and
there
are
wait
lists
in
many
locations.
V
Highest
demand
is
on
boats
that
are
greater
than
40
feet,
and
a
lot
of
that
is
because
that
boats
are
moving
into
dry,
stack
and
or
being
trailered
and
kept
at
their
houses
a
lot
these
days.
We
also
evaluated
the
the
market
rates
and
the
average
market
rate
for
this
region,
for
this
type
of
Marina
was
19
per
foot
per
month
for
a
long-term
lease
and
two
to
three
dollars
per
foot
per
day
for
a
transient
rate.
V
We
also
considered
doc
construction,
and
you
know
if
we
look
around
the
facilities
in
Clearwater
in
the
geographic
Market.
We
do
see
predominantly
fixed
Timber
Docks.
But
if
you
look
at
the
destination
marinas
and
the
newer
marinas
they're
predominantly
floating,
which
is
the
trends
that
we're
seeing
nationally.
V
So
Clearwater
is
165.
Slips
are
a
balance
of
recreational
commercial
and
transient
slips
and
they're
all
in
high
demand
generally
trying
to
keep
that
balance
to
keep
all
of
those
slip
counts
similar
between
types
and
uses.
There
is
a
demand
for
larger
slips,
and
so
the
existing
Marina
has
about
70
percent
of
slips
less
than
50
feet.
We
are
looking
to
take
that
70
percent
and
shift
it
a
little
bit
higher
into
more
the
40
to
70
foot
range.
There
will
still
be
smaller
slips.
V
There
will
be
larger
slips,
but
that's
kind
of
The,
Sweet
Spot
range
from
the
market
study
and
there's
a
table
off
to
the
right
that
kind
of
splits
that
you
know
that
range
down.
That
was
what
we
were
targeting
in
our
design
when
it
comes
to
slip
rates.
The
Clearwater
marinas
are
below
Market
average,
and
when
this
Marina
is
reconstructed,
there
is
an
opportunity
to
to
ask
for
more.
V
If,
if
you're
interested-
and
you
know
honestly
the
on-site
amenities
that
you
guys
have
here
are
great
you're
right
next
to
the
beach,
you
have
all
kinds
of
Upland
restaurants
activities,
and
so
the
the
only
amenities
that
we
felt
were
really
outdated
were
the
actual
structure
and
the
utilities
at
this
place.
V
So
we
conducted
some
commercial
tenant
Outreach.
We
did
a
virtual
survey
that
almost
every
commercial
tenant
responded
to.
We
also
did
a
couple
of
in-person
work
sessions
with
about
10
of
them
to
get
some
feedback.
On
a
few
of
the
initial
plans
that
we
had
put
together,
we
did
have
some,
you
know
one-off
comments
and
specific
requests
from
different
people,
but
these
are
a
summary
of
things
that
we
heard
from
a
bunch
of
the
commercial
operators,
and
that
is
that
they
want
to
locate
the
commercial
slips
in
highly
visible
locations.
V
They
really
want
to
remain
along
the
perimeter
of
the
marina
to
maximize
walk-up
traffic
and
visibility.
The
West
half
of
the
marina
is
the
most
desirable
they
get
all
the
pedestrians
walking
up
through
beachwalk,
and
so
that
is
the
most
desirable
spot.
So
those
voters
tend
to
want
to
stay
there.
They
expressed
that
point
of
sale
and
storage
at
or
near
their
slip
is
very
important.
Different
types
of
operators
prefer
different
things,
but
generally
the
tours
boats
and
sightseeing
and
dinner
cruise.
V
They
all
really
want
to
have
a
ticket
kiosk
near
them
and
then
there's
a
lot
of
ice
machines
for
the
fishing
and
the
dinner
Crews
and
stuff,
and
so
we're
constantly
looking
for
opportunities
to
provide
as
much
of
that
as
we
can
on
site
and
nearby,
we
actually
didn't
ask
that
was
written
in
frequently
was
parking
and
so
parking
is
a
challenge
and
additional
parking
is
desired
and
also
fixed
stocks
were
generally
preferred
over
floating
docks
for
the
commercial
team.
V
Taking
all
that
information,
this
is
the
master
plan
that
we
developed
for
for
the
project,
and
so
we
maintained
the
165
slips
and
the
balance
between
the
recreational
and
the
the
commercial
and
transient
for
this
purpose
is
grouped
under
recreational
because
there's
some
flexibility
to
change
that
around
focusing
on
the
water
side.
First,
we
were
able
to
keep
all
of
the
commercial
tenants
around
the
perimeter
of
the
marina.
That's
the
colored
slip,
size
bubbles
that
go
around
the
perimeter
here.
V
Those
are
the
you
know:
commercial
slips,
locating
a
lot
of
the
tour
boats
to
the
west
and
some
of
the
larger
boats
to
the
east,
with
the
recreational
slips
in
the
center
and
then
the
fuel
dock
down
at
the
the
bottom
right
page.
There
we're
extending
everything
down
that
dotted
line
at
the
bottom
is
the
city-owned
submerged
land.
So
we
are
maximizing
that.
V
Turning
to
the
Upland
the
you
know,
this
is
a
marina
project,
but
the
Upland
portion
of
the
project
becomes
very
critical
for
how
do
we
tie
into
the
sidewalks?
How
do
we
provide
some
of
these
Upland
storage
opportunities,
ticket
sales
and,
overall,
how
do
we
provide
some
better
connectivity
to
really
activate
the
east
side
of
this
Marina
Basin,
because
we
got
some
consistent
feedback
that
everyone
stops
at
the
West?
V
Nobody
continues
down
to
the
east
side,
so
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
provide
a
connected
path
throughout
this
whole
area,
connecting
the
east
side
up
and
around
to
the
bike
trail
and
making
a
loop
through
this
facility,
as
well
as
making
sure
that
crosswalk
off
of
Causeway
comes
straight
down
and
connects
in,
and
then
we
have
some
ideas.
I'll
show
you
some
enlarged
sections
here
in
a
second
where
to
try
to
focus
the
operations
on
the
East
and
the
West
sides
of
the
marina
building
to
tailor
to
the
different
types
of
commercial
operators.
V
This
is
the
this
is
the
West
Promenade
and
Plaza
that
we're
calling
it.
So
this
is
the
between
Beach
Walk
and
the
marina
building.
We
are
expanding
the
sidewalk,
and
this
is
we're
proposing
to
plan
the
you
know,
to
remove
approximately
40
parking
spaces
to
make
a
wider
sidewalk
and
provide
opportunities
for
Ticket
kiosks.
As
little
ticket
booths
around
here
in
this
kiosk
Mall
type
approach
with
a
focused
entrance
point
at
this
area
that
would
serve
as
both
an
Overlook
and
an
access
to
the
floating
docks.
V
What
this
does
is
this
brings
everybody
up
and
around
the
up
Beach
Walk
in
onto
Marina
walk,
so
they
get
to
see
all
of
the
boats
and
they
enter
for
one
location.
It
kind
of
puts
everyone
on
an
even
playing
field
at
this
side.
So
in
order
to
provide
some
of
these
options,
you
know
we
tried
to
minimize
least
amount
of
parking
we
can.
But
this
is
the
one
area
where
we
we
thought
that
pedestrian
additional
pedestrian
space
in
this
Plaza
type
feel
would
really
be
appreciated
by
the
community
and
visitors.
V
This
side
was
going
to
be
more
focused
towards
fishing
and
wanted
to
create
kind
of
a
fishing
Village
feel
we
want
to
want
to
keep
Clearwater's
modern
feel,
but
at
the
same
time
really,
you
know
give
something
you
know,
give
some
kind
of
focus
some
Instagram
type
moment,
art
piece
or
something
that
makes
people
want
to
walk
down
here
and
see
this,
and
then
they
watch
the
fish
coming
off
the
boat
and
being
clean,
but
they're,
not
necessarily
getting
the
fish
slapped
up
on
the
you
know,
Promenade
right
in
front
of
them,
but
you
know
that's
a
bunch
of
different
opportunities
trying
to
draw
this
down
and
we
think
that
shading,
seating,
art
and
making
this
more
of
a
pathway
will
help
do
that
quickly.
V
To
summarize,
the
master
plan
that
was
developed
does
align
with
the
market
study
results.
We
did
increase
some
of
the
commercial
slip
mix
to
accommodate
a
future
Market.
You
know
we
don't
want
to
design
specific
for
every
boat
in
that
Marina,
but
every
commercial
boat
does
have
a
spot
in
the
marina.
The
way
we
have
it
laid
out-
and
you
know
the
boats
remain
all
on
the
perimeter
of
the
marina
where
they
have
requested
and
we've
got
kiosks
loaded
located
Upland,
you
know
closer
to
the
dock
entrances.
V
We
are
providing
fish
cleaning
stations
and
some
limited
storage
options
on
the
dock
and
adjacent
to
the
marina
in
the
building.
We're
looking
at
some
opportunities
to
use
up
a
little
bit
of
space
there
and
you
know
some
of
the
art
and
wayfinding
and
shade
and
seating
and
everything
along
the
creation
of
Marina
walk.
You
know
we
think,
will
help
activate
the
area
as
part
of
the
master
plan
phase.
V
So
we
were
asked
to
do
a
value
engineering
exercise
to
look
at
how
to
reduce
some
of
the
costs
closer
to
the
you
know,
project
budget,
which
is
around
19
million,
so
our
first
alternative
was
to
take
everything
and
just
skinny
It
Up
Get
rid
of
some
of
the
niceties
some
of
the
allowances
for
landscaping.
Lighting
improvements
shrinking
down
some
of
the
docks
to
Industry
minimums,
maybe
a
little
bit
tight
but
operational
and
overall
we
were
able
to
cut
out
3.5
million
dollars
without
completely
getting
rid
of
any
features.
V
V
So
Alternatives,
two
and
three
to
kind
of
a
different
approach.
We
actually
phased
the
marina,
so
we
looked
at
taking
a
portion
of
the
marina
and
moving
it
into
a
future
phase.
So
this
kept
everything
exactly
how
it
was
but
took
a
section,
moved
it
to
a
future
phase,
and
so
this
area,
the
highest
density
of
commercial
boats,
are
on
the
right
side
are
the
west
side
of
the
marina,
and
so
we
moved
that
into
the
future
phase,
and
we
were
able
to
reduce
this
to
19
million
dollars
in
doing
that.
V
V
The
third
alternative
we
took
out
one
of
the
recreational
doctors
and
this
does
lose
26
slips
of
Revenue
generation,
but
it
impacts
a
smaller
portion
actually
allows
us
to
build
more
of
the
marina
overall.
This
also
got
us
to
19
million
dollars,
and
you
know
it
leaves
less
infrastructure
existing
infrastructure
in
place,
but
you
also
lose
Revenue
generation
from
those
26
slips.
V
So
one
thing
I
didn't
specifically
mention
in
the
initial
master
plan-
is
that
there's
an
existing
sea
wall.
That's
also
aging.
That
is
not
part
of
the
replacement
of
this
project.
So
we
took
a
look
at
what
would
it
take
instead
of
doing
repairs
to
that
wall
now
and
then
planning
for
a
replacement
in
five
to
ten
years
where
we
have
to
carefully
plan
the
infrastructure
and
the
height
elevation
changes
and
everything
to
work
both
now
and
in
the
future.
V
We
took
a
look
at
what
replacing
the
seawall
would
do
and
that
would
allow
us
to
do
a
fixed
stock
option
for
the
commercial
tenants,
which
is
something
that
was
requested
by
them.
We
could
do
fixed,
Timber
docks,
which
is
what
is
shown
in
darker
brown
there.
It
would
need
some
ramps
and
walkways
to
get
up
over
the
elevated
bulkhead
at
this
time,
but
it
would
also
the
the
higher
bulk
I
put
Oliver.
V
Seawall
would
also
allow
us
to
raise
some
of
these
docks
up
to
accommodate
sea
level
rise,
because
some
of
them
are
very
low
right
now,
so
the
floating
docks
are
what
is
shown
in
Gray.
So
all
the
recreational
transient
fuel
dock
slips
and
everything
would
remain
floating
with
ADA
Compliant
gangways
down
to
them,
and
then
the
commercial
docks
would
be
fixed
everything
Upland
generally
Remains
the
Same
as
the
master
plan.
So
we
went
through
this
exercise.
V
It
was
28
million
dollars
and
that
was
another
3
million
Seawall
repairs
out
here,
I'm,
sorry,
Seawall
replacement
and
some
additional
dredging,
because
we
were
getting
closer
to
the
wall
and
so
at
this
time
my
understanding
is
that
we're
actually
looking
back
to
the
original
master
plan
with
the
all
floating
option,
but
we
wanted
to
present
all
of
it
for
baroness
Eric.
Do
you
have
anything
to
add.
U
Up
here
with
me,
he's
got
permission
to
kick
me
under
the
table
or,
if
I
say
something
so
a
little
history
on
this
in
March
and
April
I
had
the
initial
meetings
with
the
design
team
and
we
had
conversations
about
the
budget
and
where
we
were
what
was
anticipated
in
2015
and
16
and
17.
When
we
adjusted
for
this
Marina
project
and
at
that
time
it
was
about
15
million
Penny
money
was
allocated
and
then
the
Marine
Aviation
Department
was
looking
to
put
in
about
three
million
dollars.
U
So
after
our
first
meeting
when
I
saw
the
25
million
number
I
ran
to
John
and
said
we
may
have
a
problem,
so
we
had
some
meetings
about
it
and
the
decision
was
made
to
have
Nicole
and
her
team
go
through
different
exercises,
number
one
to
try
and
get
us
within
the
budget
and
at
the
same
time
we
were
looking
at
we
Finance
to
see
where
we
could
fund
additional
funding
to
cover
that
project.
U
U
You
have
tenants
that
are
there
and
that's
why
timing
of
this
and
these
decisions
are
critically
important
and
we
wanted
you
to
be
involved
early
because
it
has
those
impacts,
so
we
still
have
to
mobilize
construction.
You
have
to
do
your
dredging
and
it's
exceedingly
disruptive
to
try
and
phase
that
we
we
do
have
a
phase
approach
to
any
of
our
our
the
hybrid
design
or
the
original
concept
plan.
U
You
have
to
phase
it
anyway,
because
part
of
our
our
understanding
is-
and
you
have
to
be
sensitive
to
the
fact
that
there's
over
50
commercial
businesses,
some
of
which
have
been
there
for
Generations,
and
we
made
a
commitment
to
them
that
you
will
be
able
to
operate
out
of
this
Marina
during
the
course
of
this
project.
That's
going
to
be
challenging,
but
we
made
that
commitment,
understanding
that
their
livelihoods
in
some
cases
are
dependent
upon
it.
U
U
We
do
not
have
the
budget
to
allow
for
that
hybrid
model
which
incorporates
a
seawall
replacement
and
going
back
with
the
timber
structure
for
the
commercial
Fleet
and
why
it's
important
to
them
is
loading
unloading,
passengers,
fish
supplies
and
they're
pretty
rough
on
from
the
dock
sometimes,
and
my
thought
was,
and
my
staff
thought
we
have
skilled
trades
workers
that
can
fix
Timber
I
got
to
call
the
contractor
of
the
concrete's
damage.
I
mean
there's
no
way
around
that,
so
that
was
kind
of
a
kill.
U
Two
birds
with
one
stone
approach,
give
the
commercial
complete.
Timber
docks.
Allow
me
to
fix
Timber
docks.
U
U
So
if
I
start
noticing,
you
know
12
months
out
and
they
start
vacating
our
Revenue
plummets,
and
if
we
stop
the
project
subsequent
to
that,
we
have
a
big
problem
on
our
hands.
So
that's
why
I
kind
of
wanted
to
engage
you
guys
in
that
conversation,
to
get
a
sense
of
your
feel
for
the
project
as
described
and
then
secondarily,
but
equally
important,
I.
Think
Nicole
touched
on
all
these
things
that
we
tried
to
accommodate
the
commercial
Fleet.
The
recreational
Fleet
is
a
different
animal.
U
You've
got
folks
that
may
use
their
boats
a
couple
times
a
month,
some
more
frequently
most
a
lot
less
recently.
They,
you
know,
have
a
cooler
full
of
supplies,
some
ice
they
can
put
in
our
carts
and
wheel
down
to
their
vessel.
The
commercial
Fleet
we're
talking
tens
of
thousands
of
pounds
of
ice
a
week.
Thousands
of
pounds
of
bait
supplies
food
and
none
of
those
ice
machines,
walk-in,
freezers,
sales,
kiosks
over
water
storage
locations
are
permissible.
Now
they
can't
exist,
no
matter
what
we
come
back
with.
U
So
that's
for
the
parking
garage
component
comes
in
as
Nicole
stated.
A
lot
of
the
tenants
mentioned
parking
parking
and
I.
I
would
probably
tell
you
that's
the
single
biggest
issue
that
I
hear
about
in
my
office
is
parking
certain
times
of
the
year
my
staff
and
I
put
cones
in
front
of
our
parking
spaces,
because
people
would
rather
just
hate
the
tickets
and
the
park
and
and
our
spots
the
demand
is,
is
high.
We
have
two
very
large
restaurants,
a
couple
smaller
ones.
U
Some
of
these
commercial
vessels
hold
hundreds
of
passengers
and
I.
Think
you
see
there's
a
little
shaded
gray
area,
we've,
always
in
the
back
of
our
minds,
contemplated
a
parking
garage
at
the
location
and
again
I
like
to
be
efficient
when
I
can
and
the
thought
process
is
well
ground
level.
You
can't
put
retail
restaurants,
so
you
can't
put
anything
like
that.
In
the
ground
level,
you
can
put
storage
down
there.
You
probably
put
our
ice
machines
down
there.
U
So
I
had
a
meeting
with
city
manager,
assistant
city
manager,
engineering
and
parking
manager
and
discussed
some
of
these
things,
and
the
thought
was
to
speak
to
you
guys
about
it
and
determine
if
you
would
like
us
to
proceed
with
a
study
of
that
situation
in
a
preliminary
design
to
be
either
accomplished
by
this
design,
firm
or
one
of
Engineers
choosing
to
determine
how
we
could
integrate
the
needs
of
this
commercial
Fleet
and
our
storage
needs
into
a
future
parking
garage
at
the
location.
U
What
would
happen
kind
of
simultaneously
is
the
design
components
so
that
the
teams
speak
to
one
another
and
and
get
that
hammered
out
to
accommodate
what
our
needs
are
beyond
the
parking.
I
will
say:
I
did
quite
a
bit
of
research
on
this
and
I.
Remember
conversations
about
this
in
15
and
16.
I
I,
don't
believe
any
of
you
were
on
the
council
at
that
time,
but
I.
U
Remember
it
being
brought
forward
some
conversations
about
it
and
then
it
kind
of
fell
by
the
wayside
and
I
think
it
had
a
lot
to
do
with
the
Optics
and
interference
with
the
the
views
over
the
marina.
But
you
know
in
terms
of
of
form
over
function,
I
like
to
focus
on
function.
Here
we
have
one
of
the
last
working
marinas
and
working
waterfronts
in
the
west
coast
and
I
I
think
you
know
this
might
be
something
that
we
incorporate
into
it
to
determine.
U
If
that's
the
direction,
we
want
to
go
at
this
location,
so
complicated
stuff,
a
lot
of
moving
Parts
trying
to
make
sure
we
accommodate
everyone's
needs
with
multiple
user
groups
involved.
But
you
know
we
have
to
replace
this
Marina,
there's
no
question
about
that.
It
has
to
be
done
in
a
timely
manner.
The
utilities
we're
turning
the
power
off
several
times
a
month,
because
the
border
is
too
high
and
of
course,
we
have
150
plus
tenants
who
that
impacts,
and
they
have
freezers
connected
some
type
of
generator
interconnects,
where
the
generator
kicks
on
some
don't.
U
So
it's
a
problem
for
our
tenants
when
you
have
to
constantly
turn
the
power
on
and
off,
because
the
ties
are
high.
Now
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
we're
here
to
answer
any
questions
and
and
any
kind
of
dialogue
and
input
is
beneficial
and
then
get
your.
You
know
kind
of
Direction
on
this
parking
garage
component,
Mr.
O
Jennings,
thank
you,
mayor
I
also
I
want
to
thank
director,
Gandy
and
deputy
director
McDonald
before
Eric
assumed
the
director
of
position.
I
worked
very
closely
with
with
Michael
and,
and
he
brought
me
up
to
speed
on
the
challenges.
The
reality
is.
We
have
a
40
to
50
year
old
Marina
that
has
not
been
kept
up.
O
So
the
the
challenge
is
is
that
we
could
do
a
kind
of
a
half-baked
approach,
but
we're
going
to
be
back
at
this
within
the
next
10
years
or
we
can
really
take
a
look
at
the
addition
of
a
parking
structure
and
really
focusing
on
kind
of
a
P3,
a
public-private
partnership
with
the
garage
negotiating
a
much
better
deal
than
certainly
what
we
had
on
the
North
Marina,
the
garage
or
the
North
Beach
garage.
O
But
these
are
all
very
I
mean.
We've.
We've
spent
an
enormous
amount
of
time
going
through
all
the
options.
Nicole,
you've
done
a
terrific
job
of
really
trying
to
help
us
with
different
options,
but
the
reality
is:
is
that,
as
Eric
just
mentioned,
you
know
we're
having
to
turn
the
utilities
off,
because
we've
we've
actually
had
some
impact
because
of
the
water
we've
had
some
impact
with
some
of
the
the
vessels
and
their
equipment,
so
I
do
believe
we'll
be
able
to
raise
fees
in
the
future
once
we
have
a
21st
century.
A
There
may
have
been
discussion
back
in
1516.
There
was
discussion
back
in
the
early
2000s
about
where
to
put
parking
garage
where
the
opportunities
were
so
somewhere
down
in
South
Beach
by
where
opal
Sands
is.
We
talked
about
parking
garages
at
Pier,
60
up
on
North
Beach
between
Frenchies
and
the
palm
and
the
marina.
Those
were
the
four
big
locations
and
you
know
none
of
the
ones
directly
on
the
beach
gained
any
traction
because
of
few
quarters
and
the
same
issue
was
with
the
marina.
Have
you
talked
about?
U
Don't
I
didn't
know
the
history
beyond
that,
so
I
know
they
were
looking
at
three
and
five
stories.
We
actually
had
this
location
because
we
we
have
underground
fuel
tanks
out
there
and
we
have
to
be
mindful
of
those
so
and
it
provides
the
potential
for
that
Upland
storage
to
be
in
close
proximity
to
the
highest
intensity
users,
which
tend
to
be
that
that
fishing
fleet
and
the
larger
commercial
vessels.
If
you
go
out
there
now,
there's
there's
a
walk-in
freezer
over
the
water.
U
So
they
they
have
significant
needs
and
I
think
we
would
run
into
a
situation
where,
if
they
they,
if
we
don't
meet
those
needs
in
some
capacity,
they're
going
to
still
do
business
and
is
that
ice
trucks
and
delivery,
trucks
and
and
that
will
further
exacerbate
the
parking
problem,
because
they've
got
to
make
those
deliveries
and
I
think
you
know,
Jeremy
can
talk
to
the
that
existing
issue.
He
was
out
there
surveying
it
the
other
day,
because
the
delivery
trucks
out
there
present
huge
problem
for
us.
W
Morning,
Jeremy
also
has
a
parking
manager,
so
we
we
haven't
gone
too
far
with
anything
new
looking
at
stuff.
That
was
already
done.
As
director
Gandy
had
said,
the
looking
at
the
old
garage
there's
a
lot
of
considerations
to
be
made
here.
There
need
to
be
a
stormwater
Vault
utilities
where
they
are
the
fuel
tanks
and
and
all
that
I
I
did
hear.
W
I
wasn't
here
at
the
time,
but
I
heard
that
the
Aesthetics
of
it
were
a
problem
nowadays
with
facade
work
and
stuff
like
that
they
can
do.
They
can
make
a
very
beautiful
looking
thing
we
can
also
I
I
was
thinking
preliminarily
as
part
of
a
study.
If
we're
going
to
study
it
further,
have
them
mock
up
a
design.
This
is
what
it
looked
like
coming
over
the
bridge,
so
you'd
see
I
mean
you
know
how
much,
how
much
you're
going
to
lose
with
that.
W
He
was
kind
of
pushing
towards
this.
So
we
looked
at
a
little
bit
preliminary
preliminarily
at
that
point
and
then
there
was
just
no
push
to
go
forward,
but
now
we
seem
to
have
the
need.
Is
there
as
far
as
the
the
size
of
it
I
mean
that
that
would
be
determined
in
a
study?
Well.
U
W
A
Has
to
be
big
enough
to
do
that
and
then
the
other
issue
is
making
certain
that
it's
servicing
the
marina,
because
you're
also
going
to
get
Beach
patrons
when
they
find
out.
There's
a
nice
new
parking
garage
across
for
pier
60.
there's
going
to
be
obviously
some
push
and
pull
on
that
right
to.
W
That
to
that
exact
point,
I
mean
currently
as
of
roughly
350
spaces
in
the
garage
and
that
a
lot
currently
six
months
out
of
the
year,
we
sell
300
permits
for
the
folks
that
that
work
out
of
that
area.
So
if
everybody
showed
up
their
work,
they'll
get
50
spaces
left.
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
that
that
we're
seeing
you
know
people
screaming
about
parking
parking
parking,
because
then
one
of
those
big
dinner
cruises
shows
up
with
a
boat.
Full
of
you
know.
W
A
W
So
I
and
I
did
have
some
preliminary
conversations
with
the
finance
director
not
to
put
them
on
the
spot,
but
not
not
much.
We'd
have
to
come
up
with
some
some
unique
ways
to
well
usually
bonded.
It's
going
to
be
a.
A
A
O
We're
I
think
what
we're
really
trying
to
do
here
is
make
sure
the
public
is
aware
of
these
discussions
and
also
to
make
sure
that
the
council
is
very
aware
of
everything
that
we've
been
working
on
for
the
last
well.
At
least
I've
been
working
over
the
last
11
months
with
all
of
you,
but
they've
been
working
on
it
long
before
that,
with
the
exception
of
the
parking
structure.
O
So
what
we're
trying
to
get
out
of
this
is
making
sure
everyone
is
aware
of
the
what
we're,
what
we
probably
will
be
proposing,
but
at
the
same
time
we're
looking
for
some
direction
from
you
as
to
whether
we
should
move
forward
in
this
Direction
with
kind
of
conceptual
ideas
and
designs
and
not
approving
anything
today
or
Thursday,
but
that
we
should
take
a
look
at
what
the
what
the
really
the
future
is
ahead
of
us.
A
J
I
kind
of
feel
the
exactly
the
same
way.
You
know
when
I
was
a
kid
I
used
to
go
to
the
precursor
of
the
water
marine
aquarium.
There
called
CIA
Rama
and
it
was
located
in
the
marina
building
and
you
know
that's
a
historic
Marina.
It's
been
there
so
long
and
we've
had
talks
about
this
before
over
the
years.
We
do
a
lot
of
talking
and
I
know
it's
a
complicated
project
and
Eric
you
and
I
have
talked
about
you
know.
J
What
did
you
get
yourself
into
here,
but
I
like
what
I'm
seeing
I
think
you
guys
are
on
the
right
track?
I
think
we
ought
to
do
it
right
from
the
beginning
and
not
cut
corners
on
it,
because,
first
of
all,
as
you
guys
have
said,
this
will
be
a
profitable
Venture.
Just
like
all
the
other
stuff
we're
talking
about.
That's
in
the
works
right
now
in
Clearwater.
J
U
So
the
the
repairs
are
going
to
require
them
to
go.
If
we
just
do,
the
repair
model
would
require
them
to
attack
that
Seawall.
The
utilities
run
under
there,
so
I
think
from
an
engineering
perspective.
Nicole
can
speak
to
what
they'll
have
to
do
to
access
the
utilities,
but
we're
talking
you
know
from
duke
main
line
down
through
the
marina.
So
it's
it's
a
massive
undertaking,
so.
J
Another
question
I
have
related
to
that
is
because
I
can't
see
it
in
my
head.
How
are
you
going
to
take
care
of
the
fishing
fleet
if
you're
taking
a
sea
wall
and
taking
their
sidewalk
or
I
know
that
Ed
before
was
talking
about
a
mooring
field
or
something
but
I
never
could
grasp
how
that
was
going
to
happen.
U
M
U
Moving
them
around
within
the
marina
they're
not
going
to
be
conducting
business
out
of
their
existing
locations
once
we're
underway.
So
it's
going
to
have
significant
impact.
There's
no
way
around
that
back
to
my
trailer
park
analogy,
but
you
know
we
are.
We
are
determined
to
make
our
best
effort
to
move
them
around
as
we
phase
this
throughout
the
project
to
accommodate
them.
U
So
to
do
a
seawall.
Now
you
don't
jack
hammer
the
old
one
out.
You
build
it
c
word
of
the
existing
one.
So
that's
why
the
master
plan
incorporates
this
layout
with
a
gap
between
the
parallel
floating
docks
and
the
existing
sea
wall
and
doesn't
allow
for
the
the
timber
dock
structure,
because
you
would
have
to
come
in
and
tear
it
all
out
again
to
replace
the
sea
wall.
So
that's
what
got
us
thinking
about
this?
U
Should
we
do
the
seawall
now
component
and
you
know
it's
a
mixed
bag,
because
this
model
gives
us
full
resiliency
for
C
Level
issues
because
it
floats
the
whole
thing
floats
where
the
timber
dock
limits
that
and
we
have
to
have
elevation
changes
throughout
and
I'll
give
you
an
example.
We
have
some
vessels
that
have
six
feet
of
freeboard
and
then
we
have
other
vessels
that
have
floating
structures
within
their
their
existing
docks
to
accommodate
the
lower
free
board
of
18
inches.
U
So
you
know,
Nicole
had
some
sketches
for
us
and
there's
some
problems
with
the
timber
dock.
In
that
you
have
a
bunch
of
elevation
changes
to
accommodate
different
user
groups.
You
know
if
it's
a
little
closing
Tiki
got
that
got
to
be
very
close
to
the
surface
versus
one
of
these
large
fishing
vessels
that
you
know
they've
got
a
Gangway
to
get
into
the
vessel.
U
So
you
know,
as
far
as
resiliency
I
believe
the
floating
system
provides
the
the
best
option
there,
but
in
terms
of
what
we
see
how
our
commercial
Fleet
operates
and
how
they,
some
of
them,
use
our
structures
to
Pivot
off
of
and
maneuver
their
vessels.
Concrete
may
be
problematic.
Now,
Nicole
and
I
have
talked
about
that
about
addition
of
you
know
some
triple
pilings,
and
things
like
that.
U
So
you
know
to
me:
the
sea
wall
is
critically
important,
whether
we
go
back
with
Timber
or
the
parallel
floating
I.
Think
the
sea
wall
is
a
component
of
this.
It's
just
it
blows
the
budget
and
that's
that's
the
crossroads.
We're
at
do
we
do
do
we
do
the
sea
wall
again
in
10
years,
which
relegates
us
to
to
this
model.
U
There
is
no
Timber
dock
replacement
for
the
commercial
Fleet
using
doing
a
sea
wall
in
10
years,
because
you
don't
want
to
tear
it
all
out.
Would
you
just
put
anything
if
that
makes
no
sense?
U
So
you
know
that's.
That's
probably
the
biggest
question
of
the
day
is
you
know
the
sentiment
on
that
component,
which
is
pretty
critical
to
me
in
terms
of
operations.
U
Yeah
there
there
we
have
a
right.
D
Well,
thank
you
for
that
presentation.
I
told
the
mayor.
As
you
started,
I
said
boy.
Mr
gandy's
got
his
hands
full
two
major
projects.
I.
Would
you
know
from
what
information
I
have
now
and
and
how
I've
operated
I
would
support,
along
with
the
mayor,
doing
it
right
and
doing
the
parking
and
doing
the
sea
wall
all
at
once
and
and
I'm
certainly
supportive
of
a
public
private
partnership
as
well
I.
D
Just
you
know
if
you're
going
to
tear
something
up
and
do
it
just
do
it
to
the
best
of
your
abilities
at
that
time,
and
if
we
need
to
have
a
bond
or
something
you
know,
I
don't
see
a
problem
with
that
I
had
a
couple
of
questions.
I'm
on
the
project,
progress
slide,
I,
just
I,
just
assume
bprc
is
like
building
project.
Review
Committee
is
that
right
did
I
get
that
right
for
what
we've
already
done.
The
completed
tasks
I
think
so.
D
And
then,
with
the
environmental
permitting
and
studies
that
you've
kind
of
already
done,
do
you
anticipate
any
challenges
with
that.
V
The
geotechnical
data
for
The
Drudge
material-
we
had
dredge
material
sampling
done
as
part
of
that.
We
know
that.
Typically,
you
know,
maintenance
type.
Dredging
doesn't
usually
result
in
great
material,
but
this
is
particularly
bad,
so
we
in
the
sense
that
it's
difficult
to
handle,
because
it's
mostly
water,
so
that
that's
really
what
we
identified
as
a
risk
out
of
the
field
work.
V
Definitely
from
some
of
our
general
site
assessments,
it
is
going
to
be
complicated
to
do
the
utility
Replacements,
but
I
think
we
have
some
good
plans
and
ideas
on
actually
going.
You
know
landward
of
the
sidewalks
and
bringing
the
utilities
in
isolated
locations
onto
the
docks,
so
we're
not
mixing
and
intertwining
with
the
existing
utilities,
which
are
all
located
in
multiple
areas
of
construction
right
behind
the
wall.
D
Okay,
I
I
didn't
know
about
being
able
to
build
out
over
the
water.
If
there
were
some,
you
know,
restrictions
that
are
different
than
42
years
ago
or
whatever
we're
doing
things.
Yeah.
V
It's
definitely
gotten
more
stringent
to
build
out
over
the
water
in
general,
so
maintaining
the
165
sliffs
was
a
permitting
decision
as
well
is
permitting.
Additional
slips
is
more
challenging
the
floating
the
fuel
building,
we're
composing
as
a
floating
fuel
building
that
is
going
to
require
a
waiver
from
the
county.
But
since
you
have
an
active
and
operational
building
out
there,
that
is,
you
know,
defined
and
has
a
user.
D
On
the
next
slide,
where
we
have
the
marina
Market
study,
you've
got
the
market
average.
Lease
rate
is
19
per
foot
per
month
and
use
and
on
another
slide,
a
couple
down.
I
think
you
said
where
below
Market,
but
what
what
are
we
at?
Do
you
know
like
why?
Don't
we
start
charging
more
like
right
now.
U
U
We
have
I
can't
find
the
situation
anywhere
else
in
the
State
of
Florida.
The
commercial
Fleet
is
charged
by
Passenger
here.
Yes,
it's
it's
a
really
Antiquated
model.
The
nearest
one
I
could
find
that
was
close
to
that
is
Key
West,
which
quite
a
bit
of
activity
out
of
their
commercial
Fleet.
It's
perfect
32,
a
foot
for
a
commercial
vessel,
plus
a
dollar
per
passenger
per
day.
Okay,
so
I
mean
definitely
we
have
to
revisit
that.
D
And
one
of
the
things
you've
mentioned
a
couple
of
times
throughout
here
and
I've
linked
a
couple
of
insights,
but
the
comparison
and
features
of
the
floating
docks
versus
the
fixed,
Timber
docks
and
are
those
are
those
fixed
Timber?
Can
they
be
a
composite
like
tracks
or
are
they
actual
wood
that
rots
you
know
or
when
you
say
timber,
it's
wood,
it's
not
just
manufactured
to.
V
V
Yeah,
the
actual
piles
and
substructure
as
I'd
refer
to
it
and
framing
elements,
would
generally
be
timber
because
the
composite
doesn't
have
the
strength
it
would
need
to
be.
You
could
look
into
glue
limb
systems
and
stuff
that
they
still
do
consider.
They
still
do
house
Timber,
okay
and.
D
U
U
You
know
when
some
of
them
come
with
large
catches,
they
put
2
000
pounds
of
fish
on
the
fixed
Timber.
Can
they
put
that
on
the
floating
system
and
then
maneuvering
again,
when
you
maneuver
some
of
these
larger
vessels,
a
lot
of
them
will
come
in
and
actually
pivot
off
the
existing
pilings
and
then
use
use.
You
know
the
thrust
to
kind
of
maneuver
the
boat
around
until
they
kick
head
into
the
slips.
U
I
suspect
that's
a
component
of
it
as
well,
just
in
some
of
the
conversations
I've
had
so
those
those
are
probably
kind
of
the
big
three
I'm
sure
that
there's
others
floating.
V
I
D
U
A
Can
change
it
back
when
we
talked
about
doing
that?
You
can
just
oh.
U
Okay,
okay
and
that's
a
challenge,
so
any
of
these
things
any
rate
increase
of
up
10.
You
guys
have
to
make
that
decision.
Anything
under
10,
Mr
Jennings
can
make
it
fuel
his
ordinance
base
and
so
on.
A
D
On
the
Outreach
commercial
tenant
survey,
so
this
is
what
our
our
the
screamer
and
the
pirate
ship
and
all
those
guys
so
I'm.
Just
speaking
from
my
experience
here,
I
don't
have
a
boat
at
this
Marina,
but
I
walk
by
it,
I
drive
by
it
every
day
and
I
bike.
D
You
know
it's
just
not
safe
to
be
right
there.
Next,
to
the
curb
and
I
know,
we
have
a
little
bit
of
a
what
are
they
like
a
ledge?
What
do
you
call
that
you
know
next
to
the
road
where
people
sit
on
it
as
they're
waiting
to
get
on
the
pirate
ship,
but
it's
it's
just
totally
unacceptable
to
have
that
maintained
with
those
kiosks
there.
D
In
my
opinion,
and
I
was
thinking
you
know
part
of
my
notes
is
you
know
you
could
have
little
painted
Footprints
or
anchors
or
directionals
like
walk
over
here,
and
this
is
where
you
buy
your
tickets
and
come
on
back.
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
it's
just
getting
used
to
something
like
that,
but
it
is
so
tight
there
and
I.
Don't
think
you
have
a
lot
of
space
to
go
either
way
that
that
changing
those
kiosks
is
a
is
a
big
deal,
and
then
this
was
oh
yeah.
D
This
is
just
kind
of
the
notes
for
the
Outreach
commercial
tenant
survey.
I
have
the
commercial
tenants
did
not
have
any
commentary
about
the
crowding
of
patrons
on
Coronado?
They
didn't
mention
that
at
all
about
safety
concerns
about
nowhere
for
multimodal
Transit
on
this
highly
popular
stretch
of
the
beach
you
know
and
if
we're
looking
at
also
another
part
of
it
is
going
down
towards
you
know,
sand
the
Sand
Key
Bridge
as
those
sidewalks
are
essentially
unusable.
D
You
know
when
you
have
trees
in
the
center
of
a
sidewalk
they're,
only
like
four
feet,
trees
or
a
Lamppost,
but
if,
if
we
can
keep
this
part
wider
to
me,
if
you're
looking
for
my
two
cents,
those
are
my
two
cents
about
that.
D
Also
so
the
West
promenade
plaza
area
so
I'm
on
this
slide.
Where
you've
you
know,
we've
got
a
depiction
but
again
driving
through.
Thus
the
roundabout,
when
we
have
a
heavy
rain
event,
is
flooded
and
I
think
you
talked
about
in
The
Proposal,
bringing
that
parking
lot
up
to
the
same
level
as
the
retail,
because
right
now,
there's
like
a
step
down
into
the
parking
lot
right
and
so
I'm
thinking.
If
it's
all
level,
that
means
any
water
that
accumulates
there
is
going
to
be
gushing
onto
retail.
More.
D
U
Byproduct
of
sea
level
yeah.
So
if
there's
nowhere
for
rain
water
to
go
because
you've
got
an
extreme
high
tide
and
the
hydrostatic
pressure
keeps
it
on
the
street.
So
that's
part
of
the
problem
there.
When
I,
when
I
mentioned,
raising
something
that's
a
seawall
cap
has
to
come
up
and
I.
Think
it's
like
18
to
24
inches
by
by.
V
Think
I
think
that
was
the
sea
wall
is
that
we
are
not
at
this
time
planning
to
do
significant
drainage
improvements
to
the
site,
because
this
is
an
outdated
storm
system
and
really
this
is
intended
to
be
a
marina
project
and
of
Waterfront
element,
and
so
any
significant
changes
raising
raising
anything
up
by
a
substantial
amount,
we're
hoping
to
get
the
sidewalks
up
a
few
more
inches.
But
that
would
be
that
would
trigger
a
site-wide
drainage
permit.
V
And
so
should
the
parking
garage
move
forward
into
consideration
or
something
that
would
be
one
element
of
it-
is
addressing
the
whole
site
together
because
we're
not
going
to
get
any
more
than
a
sidewalk
with
a
with
an
exemption
or
with
a
minor
permanent.
D
D
The
other
thing
is-
and
this
is
you
know,
standard
operating
procedure
when
we
have
these
shade
structures
or,
if
we're
going
to
relocate
the
kiosks
to
a
central
location,
whatever
we're
going
to
do,
I
hope
that
we
would
incorporate
solar
on
all
those
things
and
build
them
so
that
they
would
accept
solar
this
little
guy
down
here,
you
know,
looks
pretty,
but
it
looks
kind
of
wavy
that
maybe
it
wouldn't
have
a
solar
panel
on
it
and,
let's
see,
what's.
V
If
you
guys
are
strongly
interested
in
a
solar
type
structure
like
that's
over
at
the
over
at
the
St
Pete
Pier,
that's
not
currently
planned,
but
we
could
have
some
of
those
discussions.
V
V
D
And
then
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
on
on
the
value
engineering
alternative
one.
It
says,
remove
fuel
office
and
reduce
footprint
of
fuel
docks
that
doesn't
mean
like
we're
going
to
remove
access
to
fuel.
It's
just
like
relocating
it
somewhere.
V
D
Okay,
I
think
that's
that's!
That
was
it.
There
was
well.
This
is
just
kind
of
the
I
guess
this
is
just
more
towards
our
city
manager
John
as
we
haven't,
upgraded
or
renovated
in
42
years.
So
now
is
the
time
like
to
pay
up
so
I
would
like.
So
at
some
point,
you
know
when
things
slow
down
a
little
bit
is
just
to
have
an
overview
of
where,
where
we're
lacking
is
a
city
in
maintaining
things
so
that
we're
not
so
you
know
we're
not
hit
with
things
are
really
falling
apart.
Yes,.
O
D
H
H
So
if
we're
going
to
do
this,
we're
going
to
do
this
right,
we're
basically
paying
for
not
maintaining
it
over
the
last
40
years
and
I
think
that
it's
the
the
parking
structure
might
be
aesthetically
unpleasing,
but
it
is
necessary
and
we
need
to
do
this
right
and
I
just
want
to
be.
You
know:
go
on
record
saying
that
I
I'm
in
support
of
that.
B
Council,
member
I
too
man,
the
support
of
both
of
those
aspects.
Do
it
right
is
essential,
so
that
structure
is
very
much
needed.
Is
it
possible
to
mix
the
the
floating
docks
with
the
fixed
so
that
the
larger
vessels
do
have
a
fixed
stock
to
go
to
or.
U
U
We
do
the
sea
wall
now,
yes,
and
that's
another
exercise.
I
put
them
through
was
to
take
a
look
at
that
and
see.
If
we
took
care
of
the
sea
wall
now,
could
we
come
back
in
and
the
nice
one
of
the
things
about
I
think
it
gives
you
a
little
more
flexibility
of
design
in
terms
of
angles
and
things
when
you're
not
dealing
with
prefab
concrete
floating
structures,
so
it
gives
them
a
little
bit
more
latitude.
B
A
Well,
we
could
go
to
our
legislators,
and
certainly
try
to
get
in
next
year's
budget
would
be
something
that
would
be
worthy.
The
other
thing
that
we
could
look
at
is
going
for
TDC
money,
because
this
certainly
is
a
tourist
attraction
and
with
clear
water
being
the
800
pound
gorilla
on
generating
tourist
attacks.
I
think
it's
a
worthy
project
agreed.
U
We
will
be
pursuing
a
grant
next
summer,
related
to
the
transient,
Dock
and
fuel
dock
on
the
far
East
End,
which
could
be
upwards
of
a
million
1.2
million
dollars,
so
I
mean
but
insignificant
the
scope
of
the
project,
but
but
helpful
nonetheless.
So.
A
V
And
and
honestly,
a
couple
extra
feet
doesn't
isn't
as
visually
damaging
as
you
think
it
would
be.
We
did
a
marina
in
New
Orleans
a
couple
years
ago
where
the
the
DFE
was
plus
17,
and
so
a
couple
you
know
a
few
feet
higher
than
it
is
here
and
I
think
it's
still
a
nice
looking
Marina
and
we
absolutely
take
the
mindset
of
the
the
worst
thing
you
can
have
to
a
series
of
floating
docks:
that's
for
them
to
float
off
the
top
and
into
each
other,
because
that
adds
loading
to
all
the
follow-on.
A
U
U
Certainly
you
almost
approach
it
like
a
a
triple
net
lease
where,
if,
if
they
damage
it-
and
we
have
those
Provisions
now
we
really
I
mean
it's
in
such
bad
shape
that
if
I
hit
something
we
go,
look
at
it
and
there's
none
of
it
left,
we
don't
charge
them
for
it
or
we
split
it
with
them.
So
it's
something
that
yes,
in
our
permits,
I'm
going
through
all
that
now
as
well,
that
and
ordinance
related
to
all
of
our
permits,
so
they'll
be
updated
along
with
the
marina.
U
The
other
thing,
too,
is
that
the
interesting
component
from
the
commercial
fleet
was
they
liked
the
the
wood
docks,
because
it
brought
the
customers
closer
to
them,
opposed
to
having
the
floating
dock
in
advance
to
go
down
the
ramp
yeah.
So
they
felt
that
in
the
absence
of
kiosks
that
was
helpful
in
this.
It's
that
interaction,
so
they
could
be
on
the
back
of
their
boat
or
somewhere
in
proximity
to
their
vessel
and
still
communicate
without
yelling
from
a
floating
dock.
U
I
think
that
was
another
consideration
they
had
I
will
tell
you:
I
did
have
a
tenant,
come
in
a
long
time
tenant
last
week
and
had
a
good
conversation
and
they
were
opposed
to.
They
wanted
floating
because
they
didn't
want
people
walking
up
to
their
vessels.
A
One
I
would
assume
the
recreational
boats
are
very
happy
to
be
on
the
interior,
where
not
as
many
people
are
walking
by
one
last
question.
Moffatt
and
nickel.
We've
had
problems
with
our
downtown
Marina.
So
after
the
fact
it's
misdesigned
and
we're
going
to
pay
dearly
for
that.
How
long
have
you,
your
company,
been
in
business.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
X
Morning,
mayor
and
Council
I'm
Mike
planning
assistant
director
of
Public
Utilities.
The
item
before
you
today
is
for
the
award
for
envirowaste
Services
Group
Incorporated
for
the
Emergency
non-emergency
pumping
and
tackling
services
to
be
used
throughout
the
collection
system
and
Wastewater
facilities.
X
These
services
are
vital
for
protecting
Public
Health.
This
is
a
piggyback
of
a
Pinellas
County
contract.
We
are
recommending
the
award
to
enviroists
not
to
exceed
125
thousand
dollars.
This
is
a
one-year
contract
through
September
13
2023,
with
an
option
of
four
one-year
renewals
I'm
asking
for
your
approval
to
award
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
and
any
questions.
A
D
X
Good
example
of
an
emergency
is
hurricane
Ian.
Currently,
right
now
these
services
are
being
utilized
south
of
us
in
what
we
had.
We
actually
have
a
contract
with
the
virus.
Currently
they
were
on
standby.
They
had
five
five
trucks
available
to
us
on
standby.
Had
the
storm,
thankfully
didn't
had
the
storm
hit
us,
so
it's
it's
it's
being
utilized
to.
Essentially
it
would
give
us
the
ability
to
be
able
to
move
Wastewater
from
those
stations
that
don't
have
power,
so
we'd
be
able
to
get
them
out.
Of
that.
X
Lift
station
doesn't
come
out
into
the
home
property,
whatever
it
might
be.
X
Non-Emergency,
if
we're
to
use
them
at
a
facility
or
something
of
that
nature,
so
a
lot
of
times
we
take
our
basins
offline
for
routine
cleaning
and
things
like
that,
so
we'd
be
able
to
utilize
these
services
for
that
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Y
Good
morning,
Prairie
cleansing
fleet
manager,
the
fleet
division
is
requesting
authorization
to
purchase
vehicle
parts.
Various
vendors
for
heavy
and
light
duty,
City
vehicles
and
equipment
purchases
will
be
obtained
through
various
methods
to
include
single
Source
micro
purchases
and
piggyback
contracts.
Y
In
addition,
the
fleet
division
is
requesting
approval
to
engage
additional
vendors
as
needed
in
accordance
to
code
section
2.5615,
with
the
procurement
division,
providing
oversight,
competitive
quotes
will
be
obtained
and
no
one
vendor
will
exceed
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
the
fiscal
year.
Any
questions
any.
I
A
Z
Good
morning,
mayor
council,
Earl
Gloster
director
Solid
Waste
General
services.
This
agreement
would
be
with
mayor's
security,
as
you
know,
mayor
who
provides
all
security
and
fire
alarm
services
for
All
City
facilities,
and
this
will
be
a
five-year
agreement.
D
Z
We've
looked
at
that
we
looked
at
it
several
years
ago
and
we
looked
at
it
again.
Let's
go
around.
It
would
actually
be
prohibitive
due
to
the
fact
that
we
lease
the
equipment
that
we
now
have
from
mayor.
So
they
we
have
leased
equipment
in
All,
City
facilities.
We
go
out
for
competitive
bid
in
somebody
else.
Wins
we're
going
to
have
to
take
all
that
equipment
out,
shut
buildings
down
to
be
able
to
replace
that
equipment
one
by
one
so
working
with
purchasing
and
we
spoke
with
legal
law.
So
we
worked
with
a
attorney.
D
Okay,
so
once
we
log
in
and
we're
leasing
equipment,
it
seems
like
we're
kind
of
locked
in
there
we
could.
We
could
go
the
other
way.
Like
I
said
we
determined
that
to
be
prohibited,
could
we
go
out
and
just
get
the
information
like
just
do
a
little
shopping
around
to
find
out
what
the
costs.
D
A
D
R
J
Z
Replace
it
they've
replaced
it
this.
This
contract
has
been
really
interesting.
They
replaced
equipment
as
it
as
you're,
suggesting
as
it
ages
out.
They
replace
it
and
upgrade
it
and.
J
M
Good
morning,
mayor
council
item
before
you
allows
for
the
collection
and
disposal
of
leachate
from
the
solid
waste
Transfer
Station,
which
averages
approximately
190
190
000
gallons
per
year.
And
this
represents
about
a
15
increase
over
last
year's
budget
available.
For.
Y
Y
Manager
itb46-22
was
issued
in
August
2022,
and
only
one
response
was
received.
The
igb
purchasing
structure
was
based
on
specific
equipment
and
installation
needs
necessary
for
the
upfitting
of
police
vehicles
to
be
purchased
in
fiscal
year.
2023,
as
listed
below
authorization
for
250
000
annually
includes
contract
pricing
for
vehicles
on
the
approved
vehicle
replacement
list
requiring
upfitting,
as
well
as
the
additional
associated
with
damaged
or
totaled
vehicles
that
require
upfitting
during
the
fiscal
year.
D
Yeah
I,
just
and
I'm
sure
I
made
this
comment
last
time
to
it.
It
just
there's
always
this
little
red
flag.
When
there's
only
one
respondent
to
something-
and
if
this
is,
you
know,
excuse
Vehicles,
that's,
okay,
I
I
would
think
that
there's
more
than
one
organization
or
one
company
that
can
there's.
A
C
Y
Perry
Collins
and
fleet
manager
on
September
18,
2017
Council
approved
a
purchase
order
to
Hose
and
Hydraulics,
and
the
annual
amount
of
225
thousand
dollars
for
purchase
of
replacement,
hydraulic
parts,
repairs
and
services
for
use
on
City
vehicles
and
equipment
piggybacking
off
the
Pinellas
County
contract
167-044
Dash
qrf,
which
was
to
expire
on
August
10
2022
on
September
3rd
2020.
An
increase
to
the
purchase
order
was
approved,
bringing
the
new
annual
amount
to
325
thousand
dollars.
Y
The
scope
originally
was
for
hydraulic
services
at
the
fleet,
division,
frequently
expanded
use
of
hose
and
hydraulic
to
include
road
service.
The
additional
allocations
of
funds
to
the
road
Services
incurring
more
frequently
are
due
to
current
staffing
issues
which
allow
for
mechanics
to
ruin
a
fleet
to
keep
up
with
our
demand
in
the
shop.
L
Okay
or
13.1
is
the
exchange
agreement
with
pspa.
This
is
a
finalized
contract
for
the
exchange
of
real
estate.
We've
all
discussed
that
on
several
occasions,
no
surprises
just
a
few
things.
I
want
to
know
number
one
as
directed
by
Council.
The
contract
includes
a
provision
saying
that
we
will
not
close
on
the
real
estate,
meaning
we
won't
exchange
title
unless
and
until
PSTA
has
shown
proof
that
they
have
the
funding
to
actually
build
the
terminal.
They
had
no
objection
to
that.
L
They'd
feel
comfortable
with
that
spoken
with
council
member
Albright
and
also
comfortable
with
that,
so
I
think
we're
in
good
shape
there.
Second,
as
a
reminder
to
council,
we
will
not
in
all
likelihood
be
able
to
use
the
old
bus
terminal
which
we
are
acquiring
potentially
for
several
years
until
the
new
bus
terminal
is,
connect
is
connected
and
up
and
running
at
court
and
Myrtle.
But
the
agreement
is
finalized.
Happy
to
answer
any
questions
otherwise
stuff.
A
D
Thank
you
David.
On
the
first
page
of
the
legislation
text
that
says
the
CRA
has
since
conveyed
the
parcel
to
the
city,
did,
did
they
get
paid,
the
CRA
get
paid
from
the
city.
L
That
would
have
been
long
before
myself.
It
did
it.
D
L
No
doubt
this
is
this:
is
a
very
favorable
deal
for
PSTA
I
mean
I
I,
don't
want
to
speak
to
the
to
the
reasoning
at
the
time,
because
this
predated
my
tenure,
however,
I
will
say
that
this
is
different
than
working
with,
say.
A
private
developer.
I
mean
this
is
an
intergovernmental
partnership,
and
so
from
what's
been
communicated
to
me.
A
lot
of
the
reasoning
here
was
not
so
much
in
maximizing
dollar
values
for
the
city,
but
more
in
promoting
our
intergovernmental
partnership
with.
J
D
L
There's
no
doubt
I
mean
that
could
be
an
issue
depending
on
what
it
is
that
we
want
to
build
there,
I
mean
ultimately,
if
Council
wants
to
put
something
residential.
There,
that's
going
to
be
much
more
of
a
of
an
issue
that
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at.
There
could
be
significant
remediation,
because
this
environmental
standards
for
residential
are
very
strict.
On
the
other
hand,
at
Council
and
Visions
a
different
use,
that's
non-residential
less
likely
that
that's
going
to
be
a
concern.
J
O
Was
just
gonna
say
that
that
it's
my
understanding
there
are
no
tanks
and
that's
really
what
causes
the
Environmental
review.
So
just
because
you
have
a
parking.
D
A
You
consent
13.2
through
13.8
or
second
readings,
any
questions
there.
L
L
A
And
there
have
been
people
questioning
whether
we
were
going
to
have
a
public
meeting
on
it,
but
it
is
statute
that
we
have
to
and
we
will
so
we'll
discuss
that
on
Thursday
Mr
Jennings
anything
else.
Yes,.
O
O
John
did
an
excellent
job
of
preparing
the
city.
He
activated
the
Emergency
Operations
Center.
We
all
went
into
the
center
to
make
decisions,
because
at
that
time
you
know
the
cone
was
pointed
right
at
us.
O
It
is
tragic
that
it
happened
to
our
neighbors
in
the
South,
but
thankfully
it
did
not
come
into
Clearwater
and
so
Chief
Graham
I
just
wanted
to
recognize
you
and
and
your
entire
team
two
Fellers
everyone
who
has
done
such
a
fantastic
job.
It's
the
most
impressive
operation
that
I've
seen
in
a
long
time
to
prepare
the
city.
So
I
wanted
just
to
mention
that.
A
We
certainly
didn't
wish
the
storm
on
anybody
else.
We
wished
it
could
have
gone
off
into
the
ocean
and
dissipated,
and
our
thoughts
and
prayers
go
out
to
everybody
south
of
us.
You
want
to
contribute,
certainly
the
Red
Cross,
Salvation,
Army
and
other
organizations
are
still
taking
donations
of
items
and,
of
course,
money.
It's
going
to
be
a
long
rebuilding
process.
It
was
difficult
not
to
think
what
Clearwater
Beach
and
many
of
our
low-lying
areas
would
look
like
today.
Had
it
hit
us
directly,
so
we
should
be
very
thankful.
O
It's
okay,
okay,
sorry,
I,
say
all
the
time
how
blessed
I
am
to
be
able
to
Kayleen.
Can
you
wait.
I
O
Say
all
the
time
how
blessed
I
am
to
be
able
to
work
with
the
most
amazing
group
of
people
and
Kaylee
and
Castle
I
just
wanted
to
recognize
her.
O
It's
one
of
been
one
of
the
best
budget
experience
but
budget
creation
experiences,
and
just
recently
the
finance
director
promoted
her
to
budget
director
and
I
wanted
to
have
that
recognized
by
the
council.
Now.
O
Thank
you
and
then
finally,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
Jennifer
poyer,
who
has
been
our
HR
director
for
the
last
several
years,
has
been
promoted
to
assistant
city
manager,
beginning
effective
Saturday
and
so
I'm
excited
to
be
able
to
work
more
closely
with
Jennifer
and
also
just
want
to
thank
Micah
Maxwell
for
his
years
of
service
as
assistant
city
manager.
Thankfully,
he
is
not
going
anywhere
that
he's
going
to
continue
to
to
work
with
us
on
the
Innovation
agenda,
and
so
but
I
wanted
to
recognize
Jennifer
for
her
promotion
and
I.
A
L
Mr
Margolis,
just
briefly,
the
resolution
for
the
Emergency
Proclamation
will
come
before
Council
on
Thursday,
because
the
agenda
is
already
published.
For
today
we
didn't
have
it
on
today's
agenda,
but
on
Thursday
there
will
be
a
resolution
confirming
the
emergency
Proclamation
stereo
light
up,
I,
don't
mind
for
Thursday.
A
L
A
I
personally
have
not
had
time
because
of
the
storm
to
sit
down
with
the
manager
and
the
attorney
and
go
through
my
evaluations
with
them.
I
like
to
do
that
prior.
A
Thank
you
up
on
the
dice
I
know
by
Charter.
We're
supposed
to
do
it
in
October
were
coming
upon.
Your
first
anniversary,
Mr,
Jennings,
first
anniversary
I
believe
will
be
November,
9th
8th,
9th
I'd
love
to
push
it
to
one
year
and
do
it
in
November.
A
D
16.1,
all
right
so
as
part
of
my
education
up
here,
I'd
just
like
to
know
what
is
the
overview
or
process
of
these
proclamations,
that
we
sign
and
stand
up
and
have
people
say
nice
things
about
important
things.
You
know
they're
not
concrete,
measurable
things.
So
one
thing
that
I
think
about
is
a
acclimation
of
you
know,
Manatee
month
or
Manatee
week
or
whatever
it
was,
which
I'm
all
in
support
of
protecting
manatees
and
sea
grasses
and
all
that
stuff.
D
But
number
one
I'd
like
to
know
yeah
what
the
procedure
is
and
can
we
make
those
public
facing?
Can
we
have
a
web
page
that
has
our
list
of
proclamations,
because
when
we
make
a
statement
about
something
that
we
care
about
or
we're
committed
to,
even
though
there
aren't
measurables
it's
something
that
I
think
we
need
to
follow
through
with
when
we
have.
D
You
know,
decision
items
up
here
that
may
tie
into
those
proclamations
and,
and
so
here's
an
example
with
that
manatee,
so
Simon
Manatee
Proclamation,
that
we
all
love
manatees
and
we
want
to
help
support
them
and
grow
their
population.
D
At
the
same
time,
I'm
on
the
Tampa
Bay
Estuary
program
board,
and
we
talk
about
the
loss
of
seagrass
and
the
loss
of
quality
of
water
in
the
Bay
Region
and
how
manatees
are
struggling
and
blah
blah
blah,
and
then
we
also
have
you
know
we
have
Coachman
Park
and
there
may
be
a
possibility
of
more
boats
wanting
to
more
at
Coachman
Park
when
a
concert
is
going
on,
and
so
there
have
been
a
number
of
EAB
members,
environmental
Advisory
board
members
that
have
wondered
about.
Are
we
going
to
restrict
that?
D
How
much
seagrass
is
there?
Is
it
should
it
be
protected?
And
then
you
know
so
I?
Imagine
it
coming
down
to
economics.
So
you
have
people
that
come
in
with
yachts
and
an
expectation
of
putting
an
anchor
out
there
and
listening
to
a
concert
where
perhaps
they're
digging
up
these
seagrasses
that
are
supposed
to
be
here
for
our
manatees.
So
how
do
all
those
things
connect
if
we
say
with
a
proclamation
that
we
value
X,
Y
and
Z,
and
then
we
have
an
opportunity
to
follow
through
with
it
on
policy?
Do
we
do
that?
D
You
know
and
just
wanted
to
yeah.
J
L
A
Well,
how
it
works
is,
first
of
all,
we
have
proclamations
that
we
do
for
fire
prevention
month
or
you
know
whatever
it
may
be,
that
are
internal
to
the
city,
the
other
proclamations
that
come
from,
let's
say
the
Red
Cross
they
come
to
my
desk
and
as
long
as
they
are
parallel
to
our
policies
that.
A
A
D
C
Let's
watch
a
while
speaks.
I
would
like
to
say
that
those
proclamations
are
listed
on
the
agenda,
so
they're
already
public
facing
yeah
and
I'll
defer
to
Joelle
regarding
the
the
public
interaction
about
I
know
that
we're
very
intentional
now
about
with
our
website,
so
placing
information
that
may
not
be
requested.
I,
don't
know
if
there's
ever
been
an
interest
to
look
at
list
of
proclamations,
but.
D
I
just
think
you
know,
as
as
somebody
who's
advocated
for
certain
causes
throughout
my
life,
if
you
can
find
out
that
a
city
or
an
entity
has
signed
these
proclamations
or
resolutions
in
the
past,
you
can
go
back
and
say
Hey.
You
know
you
did
this
because
I'll
tell
you,
you
know
I
carry
around
in
my
in
my
bag.
D
My
work
bag,
the
Pinellas
County
Housing
compact,
which
we
signed
I,
think
almost
every
municipality
in
the
county
is
signed,
not
a
whole
lot
of
meat,
but
it's
something
that
can
be
waved
around
and
said:
hey
we
signed
this.
What
are
we
going
to
do
to
follow
through
with
it,
and
so
people
need
to
know
that
those
things
have
been
signed
and
what
they
are
and-
and
you
know,
hold
people
to
account.
AA
Throughout
castelli,
public
communications
director,
if
the
question
is,
can
we
put
the
proclamations
on
the
website?
The
answer
would
be
yes,
as
Rose
said:
they're
already
there
attached
to
the
agenda
item,
but
we
would
need
to
know
that
the
collective
wants
us
to
do
that
and
it
would
be
very
minimal
usage
from
the
public.
D
I
understand,
I,
understand
people,
usage
and
I,
get
that
they're
public
facing
because
they're
on
an
agenda,
but
I
mean
that's
pretty
tedious
to
have
somebody
like.
When
did
we
sign
that
Manatee
resolution?
You
know
I'd
have
to
try
to
go
back,
but
maybe
resolutions
that
are
a
little
more
meaty
or
meaningful
than
a
proclamation
at
least
resolutions.
B
Council
member
of
Bunker
I
actually
spoke
about
this
from
the
podium
back
in
2000
when
the
city
read
off
a
proclamation
after
the
concerned,
businessmen
of
America
wrote
in
saying
we're
a
Los
Angeles
organization,
but
we've
looked
at
all
the
schools
across
the
country
and
here
in
Clearwater,
we've
got
an
amazing
school
that
should
be
recognized
at
Clearwater
Academy
and
they
asked
for
a
proclamation
to
be
read
and
four
copies
of
the
proclamation
to
be
forwarded,
so
they
could
have
one
in
their
office
and
there
this
and
that
and
I
was
a
Scientology
front
group.
B
That
was
hey.
Would
you
say
something
nice
about
this
Scientology
School?
So
we
can
have
you
validate
this
so
that
they
can
then
put
one
of
those
proclamations
in
the
school
and
say
you
know
the
the
mayor
loves
us.
The
city
loves
us.
We
do
great
work
and
another
went
to
the
elrond
Hubbard
Museum
in
LA.
B
C
Clarification,
so
would
it
be
just
the
list
of
the
proclamations?
Are
you
looking
at
linking
the
actual
Proclamation?
That's
that's
different
I,
don't
know
if
Joel.
C
O
I
would
ask
at
this
point
to
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
Joelle
in
some
detail
as
to
because
it's
not
just
this.
There
are
many
other
requests
for
the
website,
and
so,
as
you
know,
we're
undergoing
a
change
in
our
site.
Updating
and
so
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
just
to
be
with
her
everyone
comfortable
with
that.
D
All
right
so
arpa
funds,
so
we
have
you
know.
Essentially
we
have
three
buckets
that
are
pretty
discretionary.
We
have
the
art
bucket,
we
have
an
education
bucket
and
we
have
just
a
general
Grant
bucket
of
a
million
dollars
each
and
the
other
buckets
are.
We
have
like
streets
and
sidewalks.
We
have
Broadband
expansion,
we
have
CRA
and
you
know
I
mean
I,
didn't
list
them
all,
but
we
you
agree
that
we
kind
of
have
these
three
that
are
a
little
more
open
and
so
I
wanted
to
talk
about.
D
I,
don't
want
to
micromanage
anybody's
the
the
buckets
except
I
want
to
keep
a
close
eye
on
these
three
buckets
of
one
million
dollars
each
and
how
those
funds
are
distributed
and
I'd
like
us
to
be
real.
You
know
transparent
and
accountable
to
our
residents
about
all
the
buckets
and
so
I
would
Envision.
You
know
some
kind
of
a
spreadsheet
form
of
columns
of
we've
got.
Let's
say:
we've
got
the
5
million
to
the
CRA
and
we
have
you
know
the
date
that
it
was
received.
D
D
If,
if
it's
appropriate,
to
have
follow-up
of
look,
we
made
I,
don't
know
300
sidewalk
repairs
with
this
money
or
something
and
here's
the
completion
date,
so
the
money
got
in
here
it
got
distributed
here
for
this
purpose,
and
this
is
our
reporting
back
of
the
completion
date.
I
think
that's
not
asking
too
much
as
far
as
being
real
transparent
with
our
22.4
million
dollars.
D
The
other
thing
is,
as
we
look
at
those
three
buckets,
the
five
of
us
vote
on
where
that
money
goes
and
so
I'd
like
to
have
a
process,
that's
real,
fair
and
transparent
about
what
we
are
expecting
those
dollars
to
go
to
in
a
in
a
bucket
of
Education
in
a
bucket
of
our
arts
and
then
in
the
freewheeling
open
bucket-
and
you
know,
do
we
do
we
want
to
encourage
Partnerships
with
two
or
more
service
providers
who
are
already
out
there?
D
D
Do
we
want
to
favor
those
organizations
who
have
a
track
record
and
have
some
demonstrated
capacity
or
and
or
do
we
want
to
award
some
of
them
to
some
young
upstarts
who
have
great
ideas
and
want
to
get
something
going?
They
might
not
have
a
track
record,
but
they
might
be
located
in
Clearwater.
They
might
have
been
dreaming
of
this
for
a
long
time
and
need
a
little
help.
Do
we
want
to
you
know,
do
a
lot
of
focus
on
where
we
can
make
the
most
impact
with
the
fewest
dollars.
D
Here
are
a
couple
examples:
I
know
that
the
Salvation
Army
has
taken
in
people.
People
will
call
and
say
here's
an
example
that
I
I
remember.
From
a
number
of
years
ago,
a
family
had
their
car
break
down
the
only
car
that
they
had
to
get
to
work
and
they
needed
car
repairs,
and
so
they,
you
know,
contacted
the
Salvation
Army
and
they
were
generous
to
get
them
over
the
hump
fix
the
car.
D
The
family
could
continue
to
have
an
income,
and
you
know
they
weren't
at
risk
of
becoming
homeless,
because
they
didn't
have
a
way
to
get
to
work.
That's
a
tiny
amount
of
money
that
could
make
a
really
big
difference
for
families
and
children
becoming
homeless.
There's
also,
the
gentleman
named
Michael
blue
who's
part
of
the
going
home
Coalition
right
here
in
Clearwater
who
actually
pays
for
transportation
tickets.
So
either
a
a
bus
or
a
train
I,
don't
know
if
he
does
an
airplane,
but
he
will
take
our
Street
Homeless
and
put
them
on
Transportation.
D
After
he
does
his
due
diligence,
you've
got
family
you've
got
supports
in
Milwaukee
or
wherever
I'll
buy
you
a
ticket
and
off
you
go
and
they're
out
of
our
off
our
streets.
Hopefully
they're
going
to
be
successful
where
their
family
is,
and
they
have
supports,
and
it's
cost
us
minimally
to
make
a
huge
difference.
That
way
are
those
some
of
the
things
that
we're
open
to
and
so
there's
you
know
lots
of
questions
about
possible
parameters
and
I
know
that
a
million
dollars
sounds
like
a
lot.
D
I
spoke
to
Dr
Cynthia
Johnson
with
Pinellas
County
and
she
provides
their
office,
provides
some
grant
money
as
well,
and
so
here's
what
they
do
they
send
out
some
kind
of
a
notice
about
this
is
the
funding
that
we
have
available.
These
are
some
of
the
things
we'd
like
to
see
the
applicants
turn
in
their
application.
D
The
applications
are
scored
and
reviewed
by
a
board
and
then
they're
sent
to
a
committee
that
reviews
the
application
for
the
program
criteria
and
and
then
and
then
the
staff
makes
a
recommendation
to
the
county
manager,
Barry,
Burton
and
Barry
reviews
it
and
then
Barry
makes
a
recommendation
to
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
to
conditionally,
approve
it,
and
then
they
do
their
due
diligence
to
make
sure
that
this
you
know
the
numbers
line
up
and
that
this
organization
is
good
to
go.
So
it
has
a
whole
bunch
of
steps
to
it.
D
It's
not
just
somebody
comes
and
speaks
for
three
minutes
and
and
has
funds
allocated
so
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
come
to
an
agreement
about
what
and
we
don't
have
to
agree
today,
right
or
but
we
can
start
thinking
about
it.
What
do
we
hope
to
see
in
those
three
buckets,
and
maybe
staff
has
already
started,
to
propose
some
things
which
is
great
and
I
would
also
wonder
again.
If
we
go
back
to
the
top
of
the
agenda,
where
we
had
the
presentation
on
Dei.
Does
that
want
to
play?
D
Do
we
want
that
to
Garner
some
points
or
be
part
of
the
conversation
of
distribution
of
those
three
million
dollars
or
so
so
that's
what
I
wanted
to
say
about
that
the
money's
sitting
there
it's
been
sitting
in
there,
some
of
it's
over
two
years,
I
think
that
it's
been
in
there
at
least
a
year
and
well
a
year
and
a
half
it'll
be
two
years
I
think
in
March
or
something
next
year.
A
I
A
With
those
three
buckets,
certainly
I
think
it
ought
to
be
to
organizations
that
operate
in
Clearwater
or
clear
water
directly
benefits,
but
Mr
Jennings.
O
Some
thoughts,
yes,
thank
you
mayor.
We
we
have
been
working.
Staff
has
been
working
on
criteria
and
recommend
various
recommendations
in
terms
of
a
process,
not
organizations.
The
process
that
we're
bringing
to
you
at
the
next
meeting.
For
instance,
chuckling
has
put
together
a
memo
on
distribution
of
the
housing,
housing
funds
recommendations
and
there
I
know
that
Micah
Maxwell
has
been
working
on
the
cultural
affairs
bucket,
actually
I,
believe
Rose.
H
D
Yeah
Air,
Park,
okay,
so
I
think
we
were
supposed
to
have
our
meetings,
our
one-on-ones
with
Mr
Gandy
hurricane
week,
so
those
have
been
put
off.
So
this
might
be
a
little
premature.
But
again
it's
just
thinking
about
it's.
It's
what
I've
been
I'm
thinking
about
and
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
conversation
sooner
rather
than
later,
and
so
I
think
we
should
provide
some
direction
as
fly.
Usa
is
beginning
negotiations
with
the
city.
D
I,
don't
like
to
waste
anybody's
time
and
I
would
rather
be
like
Mr
Gandy
wanted
our
input
on
the
Marine
renovation
way
before
we
start
really
discussing.
You
start
finalizing
things,
I
think
with
fly
USA.
D
First
of
all,
there
was
that
possibility
of
kind
of
a
rush
jump
because
it
had
to
be
in
before
the
contract
expired
at
what
the
end
of
November,
and
now
we
have
the
current
operator
who
said
no
I'll
continue
to
operate
as
long
as
you
need
me
to
you,
don't
have
to
feel
that
Rush,
so
I
think
we
should
have
a
conversation
about
where
we
stand.
D
Ultimately,
we
approve
the
operating
contract
as
a
body
on
our
priorities
for
this
contract,
as
Mr
Gandhi
had
said,
you're
not
going
to
please
everybody,
which
is
super
fun,
but
if
we
have
improving
safety
of
operations
in
the
facilities
approving
the
quality
of
life
for
residents,
engaging
the
community
more
in
the
Air
Park
like
a
restaurant,
more
community-held
events
there
reducing
helicopter
traffic,
perhaps
maybe
to
only
three
days
a
week,
limiting
the
hours
of
operation
and
that
enforcement
of
that
limiting
days
for
flight
school
and
then
yeah.
What
about
you
know?
D
Even
if
we
say
if
a
plane
is
inactive
for
a
year
they're
out,
they
don't
get
to
renew
their
contract.
Unless
there's
some,
you
know
other
circumstances
if
somebody's
dealing
with
a
health
issue
or
whatever,
and
they
can
appeal
that
decision.
But
if
we
have
planes
out
there
and
I
went
out
there
this
before
this
weekend,
you
know
grass
is
growing
up
all
around
us,
you
can
tell
they
haven't
been
moved
so
anyway.
I
think
we
should
give
Mr
Gandhi
clear
indication
of
what
our
priorities
are
here.
O
So
we
kind
of
thought
a
lot
about
this,
and
you
know
this
is
one
of
those
delicate
balances
that
we
have
between
your
oversight,
responsibilities
and
our
ability
to
kind
of
negotiate.
And
so
my
feeling
is.
Is
that
I
think
that
collectively,
we've
heard
your
concerns
about
the
Air,
Park
and
I?
O
Think
Mr
Gandy
will
certainly
take
all
of
that
into
consideration,
but
I'd
rather
not
be
at
a
disadvantaged
negotiating
with
kind
of
everything
being
said
up
front
by
the
by
the
council
and
and
then,
but
obviously
we
have
to
bring
this
back
to.
I
O
And
and
then
at
that
time
you
will
decide
whether
this
is
reasonable,
yeah
to
to
the
objectives
of
the
city
right
so
but
I
think
the
last
conversation
that
we
all
that
you
had
on
the
Deus
think
gave
us
a
lot
of
information.
O
A
Think
going
forward
if
we
had
you
know
an
issue
like
this
before
we
go
out
to
RFP,
we
need
to
have
more
conversations
on
the
front.
End
I
think
the
process,
if
I,
would
agree.
If
we
have
that
discussion
on
the
diocese
when
we've
already
selected
somebody
to
negotiate
with
I
think
we're
getting
things
a
little
bit
backwards.
A
I
A
U
In
terms
of
the
contract
negotiations,
we're
in
the
process
of
going
back
and
forth
legal
has
it
we've
reviewed
it
I
think
everything
has
an
implication
and
I'm
taking
I'd
say
everything
you
mentioned
into
consideration,
as
has
fly
USA,
so
the
first
draft,
if
you
will
incorporates
some
of
these
limitations
and
and
the
problem,
is
that
when
you
limit
a
revenue
stream,
it
changes
the
complexion
of
the
contract,
so
I
think
those
those
are
the
challenges
when
you
talk
about
adjusting
operations.
U
So
if
you're
involved
in
the
operational
component
and
make
operational
decisions,
it
has
Revenue
implications
and
I
think
that's.
The
challenge
is
finding
the
balance
that
allows
fly
USA
to
operate
it
effectively
and
to
make
money
off
it
because
they
wouldn't
be
in
the
business
to
try
and
do
it
if
they
didn't
want
to
make
some
money
off
of
it
and
then
meets
our
needs
on
the
operational
expense
side.
U
I
will
tell
you
that
throughout
this
there
is
no
model
that
doesn't
require
capital
investment
on
the
city,
side
and
I
use
the
example
of
I'm
engaging
you
with
a
lease
on
this
home
and
we
walk
in
and
do
the
walk
through
and
there's
a
hole
in
the
ceiling
fly.
Usa
is
not
going
to
expect
to
take
over
the
hole
in
the
ceiling,
so
those
are
the
the
nuances
to
this
thing.
That
I
think
we
all
have
to
be
wary
of.
U
Is
that
I
don't
think
any
firm
is
going
to
come
in
and
say
I'm
going
to
assume
all
your
deferred
maintenance
problems
and
then
some?
So
that's
the
challenge
here
is
we
have
some
issues
like
that,
but
we're
working
through
them
and
I
I
will
tell
you
just
the
initial
reviews
and
the
back
and
forth
with
legal
we've
identified
some
of
the
very
things
that
you're
speaking
of
so
fly.
U
Usa
has
actually
Incorporated
some
of
those
to
the
extent
that
they
mentioned
The
Landings
for
the
purpose
of
this
lease
in
the
term
of
the
lease
we
don't
want
The
Landings
and
we're
not
interested
in
all
this,
so
so
they're
Forward
Thinking,
and
they
took
notice
of
what
you
guys
were
saying
too.
If
that's
helpful,.
H
You
know
looking
back
I'm
thinking
of
improving
the
process
and
especially
in
big
Tech
Big
Ticket
items
like
this.
Perhaps
a
council
should
be
involved
in
the
RFP
process,
at
least
having
our
input
in
the
crafting
of
the
RFP.
Instead
of
this
sequence,
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial,
especially
with
important
ticket
items
like
this.
U
Can't
speak
to
that.
That's
right,
my
kind
of
thing,
but
what
I'll
tell
you
is
that
yes,
I
mean
certainly
input,
but
we
do
I,
don't
know,
probably
hundreds
of
these
things
a
year,
which
ones
do
you
want
to
be
involved
in.
But
that's
that's
not
for
me
to
answer.
I'm
just
I
see
a
problem
with
that
and
I
hate
to
say.
There's
too
many
cooks
in
the
kitchen
I
mean
to
a
point
of
saturation
with
this
Airpark
there's
no
shortage
of
ideas.
U
I
think
all
of
you
have
a
pro
forma
that
that
so
certainly
we
did
a
performer
before
all
of
this
and
recognized
early
on
that
it
may
not
be
the
best
interest
for
us
to
try
and
run
it.
It
may
be
a
break
even
proposition
with
significant
capital
investment
well
that
pro
forma,
while
I
think
they
spent
a
lot
of
time
doing
it.
They
didn't
have
all
the
information.
U
You
cannot
run
that
air
park
with
Personnel
costs
of
300
000
a
year
that
that
it
doesn't
work
so
there's
no
shortage
of
ideas
and
that's
the
challenge,
I'm
saturated
with
ideas
right
now
and
that's
not
to
critique
your
ideas.
But
but
that's
the
reality
of
this.
It's
that
everybody
has
an
idea
for
that
place
and
they
are
at
opposite
ends
of
the
spectrum,
so
we're
working
within
the
confines
of
the
fly
USA
proposal
to
try
and
find
the
best
balance
council,
member
Albert.
J
Put
it
out
see
what
kind
of
ideas
come
back
from
the
market
and
now
we're
finding
we're
getting
into
the
Weeds
now
to
see
with
all
the
talks
we've
had
about
all
the
different
interest
groups,
what
we
need
to
do
to
make
a
balance
and
still
make
it
marketable.
You
know,
make
it
work
in
the
market,
so
I'm
comfortable
with
how
it's
gone
so
far,
and
hopefully
it'll
end
up
with
something
that
that
works.
A
Well,
I
think
I'm,
fine
with
that
as
well.
Councilmember
albrin,
but
I
can
also
tell
you,
you
know
I,
think
we
know
which
rfps
are
going
to
have
more
interest
than
others.
I,
don't
think
we
want
to
get
into
most
rfps.
This
was
an
obvious
one,
I
think
to
an
extent
you
know,
I
think
when
you
deal
with
the
waterfront,
that's
going
to
be
something
that
tends
to
really
get
people's
attention.
A
Some
of
them
aren't
rfps,
but
you
know
when
we
redo
a
major
Park,
not
Coachmen,
but
even
like
Del
Oro,
or
something
like
that.
Those
are
times
that
we
know
we're
going
to
get
a
lot
of
feedback
and
there
probably
needs
to
be
a
little
bit
more
leg.
Work
on
the
front
end
so
that
we
can
avoid
issues
down
the
road.
A
O
I
tend
to
agree
with
council
member
Albritton
that
you
know
we
certainly
could
come
to
the
council
in
advance,
but
I
do
think
that
there's
the
value
of
getting
ideas
from
the
private
sector
in
this
case,
specifically
that
does
animate
a
conversation
from
the
Deus
with
all
of
you
and
so
either
way.
Work
with
us
I
really
would
prefer
not
to
get
into
the
council.
Writing
the
RFP,
but
I,
don't
think
anybody.
H
Can
I
clarify
I'm
not
asking
about
I'm,
not
asking
to
write
draft
Wordsmith?
What
I'm
trying
to
say
is
with
a
with
a
situation
like
this,
where
I
was
inundated
with
opinions,
and
this
is
a
Hot
Topic
I
would
have
liked
for
us
to
be
involved
earlier.
H
H
To
say
that
I'm,
you
know
I
feel,
like
you
inherited
this
huge
Challenge
and
you're
getting
thrown
under
the
bus
and
I'm
not
doing
that
I'm.
Just
trying
to
you
know,
come
up
with
options
for
the
future.
How
we
learn
through
through
this
process,
but
I'm
not
talking
about
micromanaging
everyone
who
knows
me
knows
that.
M
H
Really
against
that,
but
in
the
same
token,
I
got
inundated
with
Communications
from
various
people
and
looking
back
I
think
it
would
have
been
beneficial
if
we
were
involved,
not
I'm,
not
saying
every
case,
but
certainly
I.
Think
it's
obvious
that
this,
if
I'm
mentioning
this,
would
be
fitting
the
bill.
This
would
be
one
where
perhaps
our
input
earlier
would
have
been
beneficial.
That's
all.
B
Honor,
well,
we
did
in
choosing
who
we
wanted
to
run
the
airport.
We
we
did
say
that
we
we
want
the
the
neighborhood
concerns
to
be
addressed,
and
there
was
discussion
of
fewer
helicopter
rides
around
there
and
you
know
limiting
hours
in
some
respect.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
put
all
those
things
in
a
contract,
but
I
think
we
made
it
clear
that
we
wanted
the
neighbors
to
be
respected
and
a
part
of
this
and
it
sounded
like
they.
They
were
more
than
willing
to
be
working
toward
that
goal.
U
D
I
wanted
to
give
you
guys
an
update
on
that
special
note
for
unsheltered
homeless.
We
had
some
projects
that
came
in
and
scored
them.
We
scored
them
on
Wednesday,
yeah
I
think
we
had
to
score
them
on
Wednesday,
because
we
had
a
requirement
for
Sunshine
loss.
There
needs
to
be
some.
We
need
to
change
something
somewhere
along
the
lines
that
if
there
is
a
state
of
emergency
declared
in
your
region
that
those
HUD
meetings
can
be
like
postponed
until
the
Hurricane's
gone,
but
anyway
we
scored
them
on
on
Wednesday
and
I.
D
J
Yeah
I
think
maybe
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
talk
to
fdot
and
see
about
maybe
doing
something
with
our
Causeway
and
we
talked
to
you
know
well
some
of
the
things
that
we
saw
down
south
with
the
road
points
being
eroded
like
from
underneath
with
no
curving.
J
Our
Causeway
has
no
curving
I
thought
we
had
curbing
in
the
center
and
none
on
the
side,
but
we
have
none
anywhere
and
since
it
is
the
main
roadway
to
the
to
our
beach
like
to
see
and
I'll
talk
to
them
first
and
see
if
they've
got
money
available
to
maybe
do
some
curving
out
there.
For
you
know
in
the
future,
if
a
storm
like
that
hits
us
I,
don't
want
to
look
like
them,
I
mean
at
least
I
want
to
be
able
to
get
it
off
and
on
the
Barrier
Island.
J
So
and
then
the
other
thing
I
would
maybe
ask
too,
is
that
we
talked,
and
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
doing
something
with
the
as
my
dad
used
to
call
it,
the
cave
all
the
growth
that
is
on
both
sides
of
the
causeway
I
understand
some
of
the
people.
In
Iowa
State's
really
like
that,
because
it
gives
them
a
buffer
with
the
traffic
and
the
noise.
But
what
about
the
south
side?
We
have
it
open.
J
There
I'd
like
to
maybe
start
that
first
and
I'm
not
saying
remove
it
all,
but
get
it
cut
down.
Where
you
have
a
view
of
the
waters
you're
going
to
the
beach
I
think
would
be
beautiful.
We've
talked
about
it
for
years,
and
maybe
people
would
look
at
that
and
go.
You
know
it's
not
such
a
bad
idea
if
we
do
on
the
North
side
too,
but
maybe
have
some
discussion
about
that
up
here
on
the
dice
and
see
where
it
goes.
A
Happy
to
have
staff
give
a
report,
it
is
not
inexpensive.
No
I
know
we
looked
at
it
at
one
point.
You
know
to
get
a
permit
to
trim
mangroves.
They
grow
back
really
fast,
but
I'm
happy
to
talk
about
it,
but
I
think
we
I
don't
know.
Probably
oh
607,
it
was
before
the
Great
Recession.