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A
Good
morning,
everybody
we
will
call
the
June
16th
special
council
work
session
to
order.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
We
all
have
our
masks
up
here.
So
I'm
gonna
make
it
public,
as
we
walk
around
with
all
of
our
employees
and
citizens.
We've
had
the
masks
on,
but
when
we
get
up
here,
it
makes
it
a
little
more
difficult.
At
least
my
glasses
are
steaming
up
and
I
think
everybody
else's
are
too
so
we
are
properly
distanced.
A
We
do
want
to
set
a
good
example,
but
council
member
back
then
asked
that
I
make
that
clear
to
everybody
who's,
not
in
chambers
that
we
are
following
that.
We're
really
going
to
be
talking
about
two
different
things
today,
all
having
to
do
with
imagine
clear
water,
I
know
that
many
people
have
been
waiting
for
this
moment,
but
we're
going
to
start
out
with
the
main
library
renovation
and
then
talk
about
the
actual
park
portion.
I
do
want
to
recognize
mr.
Hugh
coachmen,
who
is
in
the
audience,
and
we
appreciate
him
being
here.
A
I
also
think
I
want
to
point
out
and
before
we
even
go
to
the
presentation
to
talk
about
the
bane
library.
I
do
not
support
changing
the
name
of
coach,
the
parked
coachman,
Commons
and
I.
Don't
know
what
everybody
else's
believe
this,
but
people
are
still
using
coachman
Commons
when
they're
sending
emails
and
everything
out
is
there
consensus
that
we
are
staying
with
coachman
park.
B
A
C
A
D
Mayor
council,
michael
dell,
citizen
city
manager,
I
want
to
just
briefly
kind
of
introduce
what
I
think
are
some
some
objective
outcomes
for
us
from
a
staff
standpoint.
What
we
need
to
determine
from
you
today.
The
first
item
is
you
indicate
on
the
agenda?
Is
the
library
I
think
we
we
have
talked
about
whether
or
not
the
library
could
be
done
in
one
or
more
phases?
We
initially
settled
on
a
single
phase
project
for
the
library.
D
There's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
percentage
of
the
cost
devoted
to
the
rooftop
part
of
the
the
structure.
So
it
is
certainly
a
job
that
we
can.
We
can
break
out
if
you
so
choose
and
depending
upon
the
direction
that
you
go
with
the
next
item,
which
is
the
coachman
Park
redevelopment,
then
I
think
you
know
we
may
take
another
look
later
on
about
what
the
library
offers
in
terms
of
the
our
abilities
with
the
financial
resources
that
we
have.
So
let
me
kind
of
come
in
on
the
latter
item
as
well.
D
Once
we
look
at
the
amount
of
financial
resources
we
have
left
once
we
have
completed
kind
of
the
design
and
the
placement
of
the
the
centerpiece
of
our
park,
which
is
the
the
amphitheater
and
the
music
venue
at
the
north
end,
and
once
we
get
that
squared
away,
then
we
can
balance
the
cost
of
that
construction,
location
against
the
resources
and
then
start
to
add
back
in
those
amenities
and
improvements
in
the
park
that
are
most
important
to
you
all
as
City
Council.
So
I
think
right
now,
where
we
are
we're.
D
Looking
at
two
projects,
the
original
magic,
clear
water,
which
was
drew
to
Pierce
and
we're
looking
at
the
the
music
venue
on
the
amphitheater,
and
so
with
one
on
top
of
the
other
there.
You
know
it
adds
up
to
a
cost
that
we
neither
desire
or
intend
to
spend.
So
in
terms
of
the
process
of
go
back
and
seeing
where
we
are
in
analyzing
that
both
stamtec
and
skanska
have
done
an
enormous
amount
of
work
in
terms
of
breaking
down.
D
D
If
we
could.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
to
introduce
mr.
Tim
Kurtz,
who
will
introduce
our
construction
management,
team
and
consultants
and
then
we'll
enter
into
that
conversation
with
you
about
the
library
or
the
components
of
that
and
how
we
might
move
forward
with
the
library
in
conjunction
with
the
ladder
or
the
second
item
that
says
in
the
epithelia.
E
I'm
Tim
Kurtz
construction
manager
for
the
engineering
department,
also
the
project
manager
for
imagine
Clearwater
we
had
as
just
described.
We
do
have
Skanska,
who
is
the
contractor
with
us,
and
the
team
from
Stan
Tech
who
involve
both
the
civil
engineering,
landscape
architecture
and
the
architecture
plus
they
have
a
team
that
they've
assembled
of
basically
nationwide
experts
to
give
us
where
we
are
today.
E
He
referenced
the
pricing
of
the
project
and
what
I
would
say
is
when
the
council
decided
to
move
forward
with
4,000
covered
seats
that
was
kind
of
a
departure
from
what
we
were
originally
marching
towards,
but
that
was
fine.
That
was
our
direction,
but
at
that
time
we
also
started
incorporating
every
comment
and
every
desire
of
everyone,
who's
involved
in
the
project,
from
the
arts
to
sustainability,
to
gas,
to
solid
waste.
E
E
So
that's
where
we
are
so
I
have
me
today:
three
members
of
Skanska
shucks,
jabong,
cynthia,
stevens,
Phillips,
I'm,
sorry
and
Grady,
Freeman,
I'm,
sorry,
and
then
we
have
the
landscape
architect
from
Orlando
with
Stantec
Greg,
I'm,
sorry,
I'm,
dropping
names,
Darryl
is
our
architect
and
we
have
honey
who's
representing
the
civil
issues.
So
with
that
I'm
gonna
turn
it
back
over
Mike
to
talk
about
the
library
and
I.
Think
Skanska
is
probably
most
prepared
to
talk
about
those
prices.
Parfaits,
okay,
I.
D
Will
excuse
me
I'll
defer
to
you
in
terms
of
how
you
want
to
start
with
the
library
discussion
in
terms
of
the
I
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
concern
about
the
the
rooftop
portion
of
that
and
possibly
would
scan
to
be
able
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
we
might
divide
the
Lariat
and
library
up
in
a
in
a
job.
Why
don't
you?
If
you
would
please.
F
D
Yeah,
the
genesis
in
uli
was
that
we
have
a
more
activated
waterfront
and
so
the
they
looked
at
the
library
as
a
valuable
resource,
but
one
that
may
be
underutilized
in
terms
of
the
level
of
activation.
So
we
wanted,
they
wanted
to
add
some
more
activity
to
it
and
they
wanted
to
integrate
the
the
libraries,
a
civic
building
of
a
civic
component
to
part
of
the
park.
And
so
one
of
the
studies
that
we
initiated
after
the
original
Uli
was
to
we
pulled
out
that
library
project
and
we
did
a
study
in
the
library.
D
They
had
a
committee
that
they
involved
and
did
some
public
meetings
and
that
sort
of
thing
as
they
work
their
way
through
with
the
library
board
and
I.
Think
in
the
library
director
who
can
also
come
in
on
this,
probably
better
than
I.
But
rally
is
that
libraries
have
changed
substantially
over
the
last
15
years.
So
the
days
of
historic
library,
usage
of
just
checking
out
books
and
having
rows
and
stacks
of
books
obviously
is
being
displaced
by
different
technologies.
D
Today,
at
different
priorities
with
the
reader
and
the
the,
and
so
now
we
rent
telescopes
and
power
tools,
as
well
as
books
and
provide
a
lot
of
makerspace
and
other
priorities
for
the
library.
So
I
think.
The
idea
was
that
that
really
due
to
technology
and
other
things,
the
library
maybe
isn't
as
well
positioned
in
terms
of
its
internal
functions
and
operations
as
well
as
it
might
be
for
today's
library,
user,
and
so
the
that
project
was
to
deal
with
some
of
those
technological
and
improvements.
D
Some
changing
and
emphasis
of
what
the
library
user
is
looking
for
when
they
come
to
the
library
and
then
lastly,
I
think
in
from
the
cost
of
the
project.
The
most
expensive
component
was
to
make
the
the
rooftop
terrace
area
fully
functional
365
days
a
year,
but
obviously
with
that
came
the
most
significant
portion
of
the
construction
and
about
half
the
cost
of
the
library
project
was
in
the
roof,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
reasons
for
that.
D
But
having
accessibility
outside
the
the
operations
of
the
library
and
other
things
really
made
that
very
expensive
construction.
So
there's
been
a
fair
amount
of
criticism
or
concern.
Maybe
is
about
that
rooftop
as
being
not
having
a
return
on
investment
or
some
payback
that
would
justify
that
level
of
expenditure.
D
So
I
think
there
are
reasons
good
reasons
to
do
it,
but
in
a
financially
constrained
environment,
there's
also
a
case
to
be
made
that
activating
the
first
floor
of
the
library
would
be
a
better
priority,
particularly
if
we
consider
what
may
happen
with
the
next
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
the
redesign
of
the
Amitha.
Then
you
may
want
find
that
you.
D
G
G
When
we
looked
at
the
library
we
kind
of
broke
it
up
into
five
different
buckets
and
it
makes
sense
to
us
to
start
at
the
top
and
work
our
way
down
and
because
there
were
95%
drawings,
the
drawings
were
developed
from
the
existing
drawings
that
there
were
20
years
ago
and
to
get
a
better
view
of
it.
We
scanned
the
total
bones
so
to
speak
below
the
ground
inside
the
walls
exterior
the
bail
deemed
the
roof.
Everything,
and
then
we
made
our
own
set
of
drawing
of
as
built,
which
you
now
own.
G
The
city
of
Clearwater
put
a
lot
of
great
effort
into
that.
So
we
broke
this
up
by
color
code,
so
you
can
see
the
different
buckets
and
basically
it
was
the
fifth
floor.
We
call
it
elevator
bump
out
to
the
east
and
the
new
elevator
that
was
in
the
building.
In
which
we
proposed
as
a
VE
outside
the
building
and
have
a
price
for
that
fifth
floor,
we
also
broke
it
out
into
the
bump
outs
on
the
south
side
of
the
building
here,
the
new
entrance
ways
and
all
of
the
interior
renovation.
G
G
All
the
interior
finishes
and
weld
plates
to
those,
then
we
would
have
had
a
saw
cut
up
all
the
floors
that
those
columns
are
being
supported
by
and
had
great
beams
to
those,
and
then
all
the
ductwork,
all
of
the
electrical
all
runs
in
those
homes,
were
we're.
Adding
the
structure
up
above
on
that,
then
we'd
have
to
maintain
keeping
this
building
dry.
While
we
cut
out
the
roof,
that's
on
the
top
floor
up
there,
so
I'm
gonna,
let
city
take
you
through
the
different
buckets
and
we
work
side
by
side
with
Williams.
G
H
Good
morning,
thank
you
for
having
us.
So,
as
Chuck
mentioned,
we
when
we
realized,
we
had
some
issues
with
the
budget.
We
went
ahead
and
broke
out
the
project
according
to
how
we
thought
that
it
would
be
easy
for
you
guys
to
take
a
look
and
see
what
might
give
you
some
choices
as
far
as
what
you
might
want
to
incorporate
into
the
violent
design.
So,
as
Chuck
mentioned,
we
have
the
blue
area.
H
If
you
look
at
the
screen,
the
blue
area,
light
blue
area
is
all
of
the
renovation
portion,
and
this
is
gonna
correlate
directly
with
the
buckets
that
we
created
for
the
cost
that
you'll
see
in
a
minute.
The
green
here
is
the
bump-outs
at
the
south
addition
and
a
little
bit
for
the
added
entryway
at
the
east
side.
The
grate,
the
orange
scuse
me,
would
be
anything
associated
with
the
fifth
floor
addition
and
the
elevator
the
elevator
addition.
H
G
H
As
you
can
see
here,
in
this
first
column,
you've
got
the
full
scope
of
work,
so
this
is
everything
as
drawn
totally
2.8
million.
That
all
of
this
is
just
direct
cost,
doesn't
include
any
of
the
soft
costs
for
insurances
fees.
All
of
that
stuff.
Here's
our
breakout
that
is
associated
with
the
graphics
that
we
just
looked
at
breakout.
One
is
the
level
5
addition.
Two
is
the
level
one
to
South.
Bump-Out
editions
break
out
free
with
these
interior
gonna
break
out,
for
is
the
Eastside
bump-outs
and
five
is
the
st.
H
work
so
over
here
on
the
right
hand,
column
you'll
see
what
our
target
budget
would
be
to
get
us
to
the
total
of
the
6.1
million,
which
is
the
budget
for
the
library
portion
of
the
project,
so
we're
at
four
point:
six
direct
costs.
That
is
our
target
and
we're
currently
at
eight
point,
eight
million.
So
basically
this
this
gives
you
a
good
picture
of.
A
H
Value
engineering
or
cost
savings
options
you
know
and
and
we're
assuming
in
this
in
this
rendition
here
we're
assuming
that
all
of
the
ve
without
any
of
the
overlaps
you
know
for
either-or
options
would
be
duplicated
so
with
no
duplications,
you've
got
the
cost
savings
that
have
been
broken
out,
you'll
see
here
in
red
for
each
of
the
buckets
that
they
pertain
to,
that
is
total
per
to
potential
savings.
If
you.
G
Will-
and
we
didn't
do
that
in
a
vacuum
all
by
ourselves.
We
did
that
with
a
total
of
30
local
subcontractors,
working
in
multiple
workshops
with
staff
and
with
Williams
de
Carr,
with
TLC
and
with
their
engineers.
So
we
all
work
together
as
a
team
and
that's
viable
ve
that
the
architect
and
his
consultants
accepted.
A
G
You
say:
are
you
asking
me?
Is
that
a
dual
question
did
we
need
to
do
it
or
is
how
much
it
costs
us
to
do
that?
How
much
did
it
cost
well
right
at
125,000,
but
in
respect
to
the
drawings
things
change
over
20
years?
As
we
both
know,
codes
change
and
consultants
and
architects
have
to
the
new
architect
has
to
can
conform
to
the
codes
so
doing
all
that
work
was
necessary
and
for
us
and
all
the
subcontractors,
because
it
was
so
involved
and
so
complex
to
put
that
fifth
floor
on.
A
G
Elevator
was
probably
what
20
feet
in
20
25
feet
in,
and
it
just
happened
to
be
where
the
elevator
was
to
have
an
isolated
corridor,
so
you
would
never
have
to
come
into
the
building.
So
to
speak
other
than
that
one
point
you
enter
on
the
east
side
and
you
go
right
up.
You
stand
in
a
four
York,
you
can
gather
people,
and
then
you
go
straight
up
and
you
can
come
straight
down
and
not
ever
have
to
be
in
the
library.
G
It
just
happened
to
be
where
that
elevator
was
proposed
on
the
design
was
then
it
goes
through
all
of
the
ductwork
all
of
the
electrical
all
of
the
fire
suppression
system,
all
of
the
plumbing
you
name
it.
It's
all
the
mains,
not
counting
what's
below
ground,
which
is
the
sanitary
in
some
of
the
electrical
mains
there
too,
so
we
proposed
taking
it
and
putting
it
on
the
outside,
which
the
architect
agreed
with
us
and
so
the
mechanical
contractors
for
a
savings
of
over
a
half
a
million
dollars.
Okay,.
G
Also
proposed
just
so
you
damn,
we
also
proposed
putting
the
entire
fifth
floor
on
the
south
west
portion
of
this.
In
her
opinion,
it
was
a
better
view.
We
put
the
whole
building
to
the
outside
that
it
that
that
addition-
and
we
talked
with
that
with
the
architect
and
with
staff-
just
to
go
a
little
bit
above
and
beyond
what
we
thought
it
could
be,
and
that
also
saved
a
million
dollars.
If,
in
fact,
you
ever
wanted
to
do
that,
and
we
did
a
drawing
of
it
and
a
3d.
I
H
So
if
you
look
at
this
summary
here,
basically,
if
you
take
out
the
orange
column
here,
just
the
new
elevator
all
of
the
structural
enhancements,
obviously
to
give
us
the
elevator
and
everything
going
all
the
way
from
ground
floor
all
the
way
to
the
fifth
floor,
the
fifth
floor
and
work
on
the
fourth
floor
to
support
the
fifth
floor.
If
you
take
that
out,
you
can
get
everything
else
and.
G
Addition
to
that
in
talking
with
staff,
Tim
Tara
and
Kat
and
Jim
hey
Leo's
during
the
scanning,
we
did
a
roofs
gain
as
well.
We
feel-
and
we
would
suggest
as
good
builders
and
me
a
lifelong
resident
of
st.
Petersburg
and
Cynthia
a
resident
of
Clearwater
here
tax
payers.
We
believe
taken
up
those
pavers
in
putting
another
membrane
over
the
top
of
that
roof.
G
There's
some
leaks
up
there
and
I'm
sure
that
the
library
city
directory
that
it
would
agree
putting
a
new
membrane
on
there
putting
those
papers
back
down
would
be
a
good
good
idea
to
run
through
to
stop
the
leaks
and
then,
ultimately,
you
might
think
and
talk
to
the
architect.
It
is
a
great
spot
up.
There
I
mean
doing
the
pier
right.
G
Now
we
have
a
fifth
floor
out
there
on
the
pier
head
and
some
fans
put
up
that
shade
structure
that
you
have
up
there
just
put
a
closed
it
in
and
then
put
some
fans.
It
would
be
a
great
viewing
place
and
a
great
opportunity
to
still
have
your
view
up
there
and,
at
the
same
time
maintain
the
integrity
of
that
roof.
That's
up
there,
one
more
membrane,
wouldn't
be
bad
for
a
very
low
cost.
Councilmember
bunker
how's.
J
G
K
K
H
C
A
Space,
they
didn't
build
a
proper
kitchen
for
it.
It
has
not
been
programmed
and
frankly,
in
my
opinion,
it's
been
a
failure
when
we
did
the
marina
down
coachmen
Park.
You
know
we
put
in
up
here
and
we
didn't
make
it
wide
enough
so
that
you
could
put
standard
30
by
60
tents
on
it.
How
do
I
know
this,
because
I
had
my
daughter's
wedding
there
and
I
had
to
have
special
brackets
engineered
for
an
extra
half
a
foot
so
that
the
tents
could
go
on
to
the
pier.
So
this
isn't
a
criticism.
A
We
do
be
miscible
things.
The
private
sector
does
private
sector
things.
The
aquarium
right
now
is
building
a
new
banquet
facility.
That's
gonna
hold
300.
We
have
a
half
dozen
hotels
out
on
the
beach.
You
have
banquet
facilities.
I
just
see
no
reason
to
do
this
rooftop
and
to
buttress
the
entire
building.
I.
A
A
A
B
I'm
in
agreement
with
that
I
thought,
you
know
when
the
library
was
first
built.
I
thought
it
was
a
great
space
for
view,
but
as
we're
starting
to
build
out
downtown
and
make
plans
for
businesses
to
come
in
or
restaurants,
I.
Don't
really
don't
want
to
compete
with
that
and,
as
you
say,
the
CMA
has
a
great
space.
We
have
hotels
on
the
beach
that
have
great
spaces.
I,
think
your
idea
of
fixing
it
taking
the
pavers
up
and
fixing
it
and
leave
it
as
open
air.
B
When
you
know
it
sees
me,
they
closed
it
right
after
that,
and
you
really
couldn't
get
up
there
and
see
anything,
and
it
would
be
nice
to
have
it
open
as
an
open
air,
maybe
not
in
dead
of
summer,
but
there's
lots
other
times.
The
years
would
be
very
unpleasant
to
be
up
there.
So
I
think
we
could
save
a
lot
of
money.
I
was
curious
to
see
what
the
elevator
you
know
change
would
would
be,
and
as
looking
at
it
I'm
going,
you
know
we
could
just
eliminate
the
whole
thing.
B
H
B
Gonna
be
part
of
that
active
edge
that
goes
all
through
the
park
on
the
north
end,
it's
gonna
be
very
important
to
have
that
people
are
gonna,
come
and
go
and
use
that
in
having
the
entrance
facing
the
south,
east
or
west
side
of
it
is
gonna,
be
a
lot
better
instead
of
on.
You
know,
I'll
see
all
of
the
way
of
this
now.
F
Would
agree
with
councilmember
Albritton
I
just
want
to
confirm
so
in
the
orange
column.
Are
we
talking
about
if
we
remove
this
level?
Five
addition:
it's
the
savings
of
nearly
five
million
dollars:
four,
nine,
nine,
seven,
nine,
six,
six,
okay
and
then
just
going
forward
with
our
discussions
about
return
on
investment,
and
you
know
whether
or
not
people
believe
there's
a
skeptical
with
a
return
on
investment
there.
We
don't
have
any
documentation
on
return
on
investment.
There's
no
document
that
has
those
numbers
right.
So
that's
just
a
gut
feeling
about
return
on
investment.
D
It's
public
space,
so
we
were
only
designing
it
as
public
space.
There
was
no
anticipation
of
return
on
investment.
Norma
was
there
an
idea
that
we
would
necessarily
be
intending
to
compete
with
the
private
sector?
It
was
just
a
matter
of
building
out
public
space,
so
no,
we
did
not
assume
any
return
on
investment,
as
we
did
not
assume
return
on
investment
from
the
library
I.
Don't
think
so.
A
I
I
The
structure
the
building
itself
is
a
great
building,
but
we've
got
to
get
you
know
if
we're
gonna
activate
the
first
floor,
you
know
you're
talking
about
cafes.
Are
you
know
a
space
that
can
transform
itself
on
a
monthly
or
bimonthly
basis
with
art
exhibits
or
any
type
of
thing
like
that,
and
and
doing
it?
I
I've
made
the
comment,
and
then
a
commissioner
or
councilmember
Allbritton
and
I
were
we
were
on
the
council
when
we
moved
into
the
office
space
we're
in
now
and
made
the
commitment
that
we're
gonna
have
a
commitment
of
where
our
next
City
Hall
is
going
to
be
before
I'm
gone,
I'm
still
committed
to
that
commitment
and
I
think
this
building
could
be
a
great
city
hall
and
we
could
build
a
new
city
library
somewhere
else
and
I.
Think
City
Hall
is
more
conducive
for
activity
and
and
and
crowds
than
a
library
is.
I
Libraries
are
quiet
and-
and
you
know
just
much
more
subdued
and
I
just
think
this
could
be
a
great
City
Hall
building
we
could
try,
you
have
to,
and
we've
got
money
in
a
we've
got
money
in
a
fun
to
build
a
new
city,
a
new
city
hall.
We
could
use
that
money
towards
the
renovations
of
this
building.
Now
we
got
to
find
money
to
build
a
library
and
I
know
Bill's
just
sitting
there
just
going
crazy,
but
but
I
mean
we
need
a
new
City
Hall
I
think
this
is
a
great
location
for
it.
I
I
At
big
picture
and
and
I
know,
I'm,
probably
not
gonna,
get
that
support,
but
I
want
people
to
know
that
that
is
my.
My
vision
could
be
my
would
be
and
can
be
my
vision
of
of
what
this
building
could
be
and
I
think
it
would
be
much
better
integrated
with
the
part
then,
as
that
use
than
it
would
be,
as
a
library.
J
I
J
C
I
Don't
the
only
as
of
right
now
about
the
only
Thursday
night
programming
there
is
in
the
existing
bandshell
is
jazz
holiday
and
we
have
an
earlier
council
meeting
on
Thursday
night
of
jazz
holiday
so
that
we
all
can
be
in
attendance
to
that.
So
we
moved
to
Wednesday
so
I
mean
we.
Can
you
know
that
that's
a
programming
issue
that
can
be
addressed
fairly
easily,
but
I
just
wanted
to
get
it
out.
I
J
A
D
You
know
I,
based
on
the
common
here.
I
feel,
like
we've
got
good
direction
to
work
with
our
consultants
on
designing
a
project
that
integrates
successfully
if
we
make
changes
on
the
next
item
and
then
still
preserving
those
kinds
of
improvements
that
I
think
some
of
you
have
mentioned
is
still
important
to
you.
So
I
think
I've
got
good
direction
on
this
item.
Frankly,
okay,
mr.
L
Mehra,
could
you
do
one
thing
for
me,
and
especially
since
you've
been
previous
mayor,
is
that
people
that
are
listening
sometimes
don't
realize
that
everything
that
we
do
is
policy
driven
by
the
council.
So
we
are
here
today
as
a
result
of
policy
decisions
made
by
previous
councils
and
now
we're
in
a
different
council
and
some
people
might
misunderstand
some
of
your
comments
to
suggest
that
we
just
made
a
mistake
and
that.
L
A
A
In
context
of
everything
else,
I
mean
whenever
we
look
at
a
project,
I
feel
like
we
are
an
emergency
room
doctor
and
we
triage
what
we
believe
is
most
important
just
like.
If
you
go
into
an
emergency
room,
somebody
has
having
a
heart
attack,
goes
ahead
of
somebody
with
a
broken
arm,
and
so
now
we
have
a
new
council
that
will
give
new
policy
direction.
Perhaps
maybe
everything
stays
the
same.
A
L
M
F
Just
a
procedure
question
so
because
the
previous
council
voted
on
the
6.1
million
renovation
for
the
library,
as
well
as
our
current
direction,
with
coachmen
Park
on
Thursday.
Someone
will
have
to
make
a
motion.
Not
you.
Someone
needs
to
make
a
motion
to
revisit
that.
Those
previous
decisions
is
that
correct.
Yes,.
A
M
A
A
I
And
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
Pam,
but
my
memory
is
not
as
good
as
it
used
to
be,
but
we
as
a
previous
council
I,
don't
know
that
we
voted
to
say
build
this,
because
we
didn't
put
it
out
the
contract
or
anything
of
that
nature.
We
basically
said:
okay,
we're
okay,
we
kind
of
like
the
concept,
but
we
need
more
information.
We
need
to
put
this
thing
together
more
so
we
did
not
commit
to
this.
I
M
I
D
E
F
A
Get
ideas
from
one
another
today
we
kind
of
do
a
lot
of
work
in
the
heavy
lifting.
Ultimately,
though,
on
Thursday
we
will
have
an
agenda
item
concerning
the
library
we
will
have
probably
a
shorter
discussion,
because
I
think
I'm
hearing
consensus.
We
will
also
give
the
public
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
that
specific
item,
and
then
we
will
take
action.
A
L
C
C
I
M
A
B
B
Presentation
to
us
that
what
we're
doing
I've
seen
conceptual
drawings,
we
really
haven't
voted
to
say:
yes,
let's
do
this,
it's
more
or
less
we're
still
exploring
costs
and,
and
then
they
brought
Skanska
on
to
to
help
with
the
design
and
the
area,
actually
the
value
engineering
and
to
see
where
we
are
so
we're.
Actually,
this
is
the
culmination
of
everything
we've
talked
about
on
the
library
today.
I
mean
we're
talking
about
it
right
now,
so
imagine,
Clearwater
is
a
little
different.
We've
had
more
detailed
conversations
on
that.
F
Okay,
so
in
part
of
our
discussion
we
have
a
current
price
for
the
library
of
8.8
million
that
was
mentioned
today,
and
so,
if
we
take
out
the
level
five
edition,
we're
removing
nearly
five
million
dollars
from
that.
So
we're
we're
down
to
you
know
3.8
million
about
four
million
for
the
renovation,
and
then
we
can
just
assume
that
all
of
the
articulated
changes
are
probably
going
to
go
forward
except
anything
related
to
level.
Five.
Is
that
correct?.
D
Well,
you
know,
as
I
indicated
earlier,
I
think
you
know
I
think
we
have
great
direction
from
you
on
the
library.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
excuse
me
we'll
go
back
and
work
with
our
team
scans
get
a
stand,
Tech
and
library
director,
and
we
will
incorporate
changes
that
integrate
the
library
into
the
park
we're
effectively
frankly,
regardless
of
what
we
do
with
the
next
issue.
D
Theoretically,
you
want
that
to
take
place
with
one
a
better
integrated
facility,
so
we
can
design
that
and
bring
you
depending
on
how
our
resources
are
managed
through
the
balance
of
the
project.
We
can
bring
you
a
library
project,
that's
suitable
to
the
amount
of
resources
that
we
have
and
still
accomplish
those
your
objectives,
so
we'll
be
working
with
them
to
design.
What
that
final
picture
of
the
library
looks
like
and
then
you'll
you'll
see
that
we'll
have
an
opportunity,
then,
to
look
at
have
what
your
new
library
will,
how
it
will
function.
D
D
So
I
think
you
know
what
we're
going
to
try
to
do
is
to
look
to
accomplish
those
other
things
that
we
sense
that
we
do
have
support
for
and
if
some
of
them
are
kind
of
priced
out
of
being
able
to
justify
them,
then
we'll
adjust
the
construction
project
accordingly,
but
but
and
I
went.
The
last
thing
I'll
reiterate
is:
we
are
at
the
point
now
a
permit
run
so
we're
about
ready
to
go,
build
the
whole
thing
so,
but
this
is
good
direction.
We
can.
I
We
talked
about
links
on
the
roof
and
that's
just
building
maintenance.
That's
right!
They're
building,
maybe
not
do
that,
but
I've
been
to
a
number
of
events
and
functions
on
the
roof
of
this
and
we
have
access
to
the
roof.
We
have
an
elevator
that
goes
to
the
roof
and
there
it's
it's
really
nice
up
there,
but
I
can
also
see
the
value
in
at
least
putting
some
cover
up
there
to
provide
shade
for
the
events
that
are
taking
place.
I
J
A
L
Mayor
a
relative
to
councilman
Hamilton's
comment:
I'm
gonna
ask
Chuck
to
come
up.
Last
week,
Skanska
gave
some
some
of
our
staff
members
a
tour
of
the
pier
project
down
in
st.
Petersburg
and
Chuck
and
I
kind
of
walked
together
through
most
of
that,
and
he
shared
a
lot
of
experience.
Experiences
with
me
that
they
experienced
in
that
project,
and
since
you
were
talking
about
your
reaction
to
some
of
the
the
rooftop,
you
know
things
in
a
reaction
to
what
Jack
I
said
earlier.
L
G
What's
important
to
note
today,
that's
impressed
me
by
the
City
Council
here
in
mayor
is
that
one
we
came
here
looking
for
direction.
We've
got
better
than
three
and
a
half
four
months
involved
in
this
dissecting
bisecting.
It
I
think
we
know
it
as
good
as
the
architect
that
drew
it
originally.
But
the
point
being
today
is
thirsty
is
what
we're
looking
forward
to
the
market
is
ripe.
Right
now,
we've
had
change
orders
on
our
pier
recently
than
50
percent
less
than
what
it
would
have
been
a
year
ago,
which
is
something
from
something
bad.
G
Something
comes
good.
There's
a
lot
of
contractors
out
there
better
than
300
right
now
that
are
worried
about
work
and
city
work.
Government
work
is
the
priority
all
the
development,
all
the
different
projects
that
were
a
result
of
a
good
economy.
They're
all
on
hold
so
and
I
mean
I'm,
not
talking
I'm,
talking
top-of-the-line
contractors
that
are
just
keeping
their
people
working
not
have
to
lay
anybody
off.
So
the
sooner
we
get
direction.
We
can
mobilize,
they
see
a
trailer
and
we
can
go
to
the
market.
G
D
Pam
thinks
I'm
I'm
kidding
about
that
I
think
you
know
we're.
We
are
where
we
are
with
really
kind
of
almost
two
competing
projects.
If
you
will
I
think
we,
you
know,
we
went
down
the
path
of
the
imagine
clear
water
plan
that
was,
we
provided
City
Council
on
February
21st
of
2017.
We
anticipated
kind
of
a
level
of
entertainment
there,
and
we
have
since
obviously
been
made
aware
that
a
council
has
a
priority
for
a
world-class
facility
and
a
more
aggressive
entertainment
venue
for
the
waterfront.
D
So
that
being
the
case,
I
think
you
know
clearly,
if
our
given
our
objectives
currently
of
a
greatly
expanded
entertainment
program
at
the
waterfront
park
and
the
kind
of
usage
of
a
venue
that
would
justify
a
facility
of
this
type
and
extent,
then
I
think
it's
probably
safe
to
say
that
you
would
read
it.
You
would
design
a
park
differently
having
the
that
been
a
priority.
D
Demonstrated
to
us,
as
we
were,
engaging
the
staff
and
the
consultants
to
do
that
so
and
I
mentioned
that,
simply
because
there
is
a
there's,
a
logical
reason.
Why
we're
here
today
having
this
discussion
and
it
puts
the
focus
and
what
we
need
to
accomplish
today
really
is
a
fairly
simple
and
straightforward
decision,
and
that
is
what
do
you
want
to
build
and
where
do
you
want
to
build?
D
It
I
think,
given
the
level
of
use
that
you
are
anticipating
and
that
I
understand
that
you
want
to
achieve
out
of
this
facility,
then
it
makes
sense
for
that
level
of
use
to
be
accommodated
in
a
different
manner.
Then
that
was
that
was
originally
envisioned
in
the
imagine.
Clearwater
project
so
I
think
we're
at
a
critical
juncture
where
we
can
pivot
in
a
way
that
kind
of
minimizes
the
cost
and
expenditure
of
that.
As
indicated
to
you,
we
expect
some
more
aggressive
pricing
on
the
final
construction
number.
D
D
Think
you
would
like
to
preserve,
so
I
would
like
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
some
of
those
key
components
of
the
part,
because
we
will
take
that
from
your
direction
and
we
will
redesign
the
park,
but
we
can
also
afford
our
contractor
an
opportunity
to
get
get
going
on
the
infrastructure
which
really
will
help
our
timeline.
So
we
don't
need
a
lot
of
details
from
you
on
the
design
of
the
park.
D
I've
already
talked
to
the
parks
director,
so
we
will
work
with
the
parks,
department
and
engineering
Tim
and
our
contractors
and
designers,
and
will
will
develop
a
beautiful
waterfront
park
on
the
balance
third
of
the
property.
So,
with
regard
to
the
changing
in
the
site
plan,
this
will
be
a
Stantec
who
will
walk
us
through
some
of
these
site
planning
options
and,
and
then,
if
you
want
to
talk
a
little
more
about
how
that
might
impact
our
budgeting
scenario
and
the
construction,
then
we
have
Skanska
here
as
well
too,
to
follow
up
that
discussion.
So.
N
So
it's
our
understanding
that
you
would
like
to
preview
some
of
these
options
that
we
have
come
up
with
since
last
time.
We've
had
these
type
of
discussions
so
we'll
go
through
that
I
think
I
need
to
put
something
on
the
screen
for
us
all
to
see.
I'd
like
to
start.
If
that's
okay
with
you
with
you
know,
current
master
plan
just
to
ground
us
of
where
we
are
now
so
just
quickly
to
look
at
you
can
see
on
the
screen,
but
I
think
we're
all
familiar
with
this
plan.
N
We
had
two
gateway,
Plaza
located
the
corner
of
Osceola
and
Cleveland,
and
that's
the
main
entryway
and
continuation
of
Main
Street
as
the
threshold
into
coachman
park
that
gateway
Plaza
overlooks
what
is
now
currently.
The
green
and
the
main
performance
venue
is
centrally
located
in
the
current
plan
to
the
north
of
that
is
our
destination
play
area
and
garden
space
and
then
to
the
south
of
that
is
a
more
passive
Park
area
that
also
contains
the
water
quality
retention.
N
Pond,
if
you
will
that
it's
also
more
of
an
aesthetic
pond
as
well
and
then
there's
parking
there
and
then
there's
the
whole
bay
walk
area
on
on
the
west
side.
This
is
a
current
plan.
It's
a
plan
that
we
basically
inherited
went
through
a
validation
phase
and
now
we're
in
a
current
phase
called
design
development.
N
This
is
what
that
looks
like
from
an
aerial
view,
the
current
master
plan.
So
this
is
an
orientation
where
you
can
see
to
the
bottom
right,
we're
in
the
library
right,
so
we're
looking
from
east
towards
the
west.
That
makes
sense
a
you
can
see
the
bridge
in
the
background.
So
this
is
where
we
currently
are.
We
came
up
with
actually
three
options.
We
called
them
options
ad
being
seeds
for
lack
of
a
better
name,
and
then
the
city
staff
put
forth
options
to
options.
B
and
C.
N
So
this
is
option
B
and
just
why
B?
Well,
a
is
actually
the
same
thing
we
just
flipped
the
stage
building
and
the
where
the
VIP
area
is
in
relation
to
this
stage.
So,
what's
the
big
change
on
this
plan,
the
idea
was
I
think
the
big
idea
is
to
move
the
whole
performance
venue
to
the
north
side
of
the
park
closer
to
Jerusalem.
N
It's
an
interesting
idea,
and
one
as
planners
and
designers.
We
think,
is
a
good
idea
to
be
honest
couple
of
things
that
are
advantageous
to
that
move.
Some
are
more
obvious
than
others.
The
one
is
when
you
come
from
the
downtown
Clearwater
Main
Street
into
the
gateway
Plaza.
You
have
this
great
open
view
out
over
the
park
as
well
as
out
across
the
bay
and
tours
and
Clearwater.
You
know,
Beach,
that's
a
that's
a
plus
in
many
respects.
N
It
also
separates
some
distance
that
leads
to
performance
venue
right
from
the
existing
condominiums
to
the
water
tower.
So
there's
a
little
bit
more
separation.
There,
noise
wise
we're
not
so
sure
from
our
sound
consultant
that
it's
going
to
be
that
dramatic
of
a
difference.
But
there
is
some
difference
right
in
in
this
concept,
be
it
doesn't
change
the
orientation
of
the
layout
of
the
performance
venue
in
the
stage
it's
still
kind
of
a
north-south
orientation.
N
We
just
moved
the
whole
thing
literally
north
and
then,
where
that
area
was
the
destination
playground,
the
garden
area
that
all
flipped
over
to
the
more
southern
portion
of
the
park
so
another
advantage,
though,
is
it-
does
put
that
back.
A
house
area
of
the
performance
venue
closer
to
drew
more
accessibility
and
less
conflict
with
the
rest
of
the
park
as
a
result
of
that,
so
those
are
some
of
some
of
the
advantages
of
moving
to
the
to
the
north.
N
One
disadvantage.
I,
don't
think
it's
a
great
one,
because
the
distance
isn't
in
my
mind
that
great
it's
just
there's
more
of
a
walking
distance
between
that
drop-off
area
at
the
lower
gateway
Plaza,
where
Cleveland
ends
other
than
that
one
last
disadvantage
is
it
doesn't
change
by
moving
it
literally
just
to
the
north
and
the
same
orientation,
and
this
gets
a
little
bit
into
the
weeds.
But
I
hope
you
understand,
there's
a
grading
issue.
N
We
all
know
that
we
have
a
bluff
walk
so
we're
all
sitting
up
on
this
nice
high
elevation
that
looks
out
over
the
lower
portions
of
coachmen
Park.
This
orientation,
though,
in
terms
of
how
the
viewing
angles,
if
you
will
of
the
cover
seating
area
as
well
as
the
green
space
behind
that,
would
be
uncovered
seating.
In
order
to
maintain
sight
lines,
there
has
to
be
established
grave
so
that
a
person
behind
you
can
see
over
the
top
of
you
as
you're
looking
towards
the
stage
and
this
type
of
orientation.
N
It
goes
against
the
grain
of
the
natural
grade
of
the
park.
If
you
will
we're
high
on
the
East
and
low
on
the
West
and
we're
working
against
that,
so
it
requires
more
fill
more
grade,
more
drainage
issues
in
this
orientation.
That's
the
same
in
the
current
plan
by
the
way.
So
then
we
go
to
that
led
to
that
type
of
thought
led
to
this
option,
C,
which
also
moves
the
performance
venue
to
the
north.
N
So
still
has
all
those
advantages
that
I
talked
about
an
option
B,
but
the
main
advantage
of
option
C
is
that
it
actually
works
with
the
natural
grade
of
the
existing
conditions.
I
think
so
we're
not
really
calling
it
an
amphitheater,
but
we
do
have
a
nice
look
long,
that's
already
existing
from
library
down
to
the
park
going
towards
the
west.
This
orientation
actually
takes
advantage
of
that,
and
one
net
result
of
that
is
that's
been
verified
by
its
Gasca.
Is
that
it
does
save
money.
N
We
have
less
fill
issues
to
deal
with
imported
fill,
so
there
is
a
cost
savings
on
construction.
By
doing
this,
everything
else
about
this
layout
has
the
same
advantages.
The
only
slight
disadvantage
compared
to
option
B
is
that,
because
of
that
orientation,
the
back
of
house
is
now
truly
on
the
west
side
of
the
park.
It
is
closer
to
Drew
and
that
dead-end
of
Drew
Surry.
So
it
has
that
proximity
but
puts
a
little
bit
of
that
back
a
house
facing
to
the
bay
sidewalk
area.
N
We
think
we
can
mitigate
that,
though,
because
obviously
it's
not
365
days
of
operation,
the
music
venue
most
of
the
time
is
its
part
space.
So
we
can
contain
that
back.
A
house
area
screen
and
landscape
perhaps
put
a
fence
there,
just
to
make
sure
that
that
doesn't
become
something
that
you
know
you're.
Looking
at
the
back
side
of
that
performance
venue
other
than
that,
we
actually
think
of
this
particular
option
as
being
the
better
option
between
the
two.
N
We
have
some
views,
so
you
can
see
in
3d
what
these
look
like,
like
I'm
finding
here.
So
here's
here's
option
B
without
the
canopy,
so
you
can
see
the
the
open
lawn
space.
This
would
be
the
area
that
would
be
the
seating
area
for
4,000
seats
and
here's
the
actual
performance
venue
with
the
VIP
area
on
the
what's
interesting
about
this
opus,
a
VIP
area
on
the
west,
very
close
with
that
upper
deck
area
of
the
VIP
for
a
closer
to
the
waterfront
and
then
with
the
campy.
N
So
again,
you
can
see
how
the
center
portion
on
that
park
is
is
wide
open.
You
actually
have
to
actually
large
lawn
areas,
so
I
think
another
advantage
of
this
I
didn't
mention
is
is
when
you
have
the
controlled
access
of
the
larger
green
space
behind
the
seeded
space,
you
still
have
open
park
space
available
to
public
that
aren't
using
or
not
attending
a
particular
venue,
or
that
could
actually
be
extra
space
or
attempts.
N
N
To
be
honest,
we
haven't
really.
You
know.
The
idea
would
be
to
take
the
same
program
that
we
have
similar
program
and
put
in
here.
We
didn't
really
study
that,
yet
we
know
we
have
the
space
to
do
it
and
we'll
work
out
the
details.
This
was
just
mainly
looking
at
the
big
move:
there's
our
performance
venue
to
the
north
to
make
sure
if
we
think
that
actually
works.
So
this
is
a
option
B
and
then
with
option.
C.
N
Same
idea,
so
this
is
with
canopy
off
and
we're
just
doing
it,
so
you
can
see
the
overall
site
plan
better
without
canapé.
So
again
you
can
see
we're
here
in
the
library
here's
the
North
Bluff
walk.
This
would
be
really
a
pseudo
amphitheater
type
area
where
that
lawn
was
sloped
down.
So
this
would
be
standing
order,
people
on
blankets,
and
then
this
is
the
area
where
the
4,000
seats
would
go
in-house.
A
K
C
K
N
F
N
N
So
yeah
and
then
we're
at
elevation
approximately
what
30
at
the
North
walk
so
you're
already
up.
We
have
a
ground
level
of
the
library.
Then
you
go
up
to
five
levels,
so
that
puts
us
as
Gerald
mentioned
earlier,
and
you
up
at
the
upper
levels
you're
looking
over
and
then
remember
at
the
lower
levels.
There's
things
like
landscape,
so
there's
existing
tree
canopy!
That's
there!
N
So
the
lower
views
from
the
library
L
really
don't
change,
because
it's
discussing
landscape
considerations
but
as
you
go
up
fourth
or
fifth
level,
you're
going
to
be
looking
out
over
that
can
be
structure
and
people.
You
know
we
don't
look
like
this
straight
ahead
right,
we're
always
looking
with
peripheral
vision,
so
there's
plenty
of
views
all
around,
even
if
you're
low.
L
N
C
N
N
N
N
I
Hamilton
ball
a
couple
questions
in
option:
C
or
Plan
C,
the
green
area
behind
the
covered
seating
is
gonna,
have
a
slope
to
it.
Yes,
so
it's
not
very
conducive
to
running
playing
playing
catch
of
the
frisbee
and
things
of
that
nature
like
the
green
and
the
original
drawing
or
when
it
was
in
the
middle
of
the
park,
because
that
green
is
gonna
be
very
flat.
Now
this
here
you've
got
I
say
you
still
got
the
green.
I
You
know
to
the
to
the
south,
but
are
we
now
can
because
the
total
square
footage
total
area
for
the
playground
in
the
original
plan
and
then
the
total
area
for
the
southern
end
of
the
park?
Have
we
now
really
compressed
that
down
to
us?
How
much
have
we
compressed
that
they
don't
think
so
by
combining
it
like
that
and
still
allowing
down
that
sure.
N
Green,
so
remember
in
the
curve
plan,
where
and
in
this
plan
is
that
slope
seating
area?
If
you
will
that's
part
of
the
destination
playground,
a
lot
of
that
space
was
just
green
space
because
it
because
of
that
slope
right
and
then
we
had
some
hilltop.
You
know
slides
and
things
like
taking
advantage
of
that
slope.
So
it
wasn't
100%
used
now
we're
gonna.
Now
we
will
use
it
100%
as
a
green
space
for
the
the
performance
venue,
but
by
moving
it
to
the
north
were
on
this
plan
is
labeled
green.
N
N
You
can
still
do
that
and
not
only
that
you
can
still
do
that
while
the
venue
is
going
on
and
I
think
that's
the
advantage
of
the
the
green
space
before
would
have
been
taken
up
by
the
venue
and
that
large
green,
open
space
would
not
be
available
for
those
not
attending
the
venue.
In
this
case,
if
the
venue
is
contained
within
the
northern
portion
still
leaves
open
the
whole
center
of
the
park
for
other
things.
So
that's
what
I
think
one
of
the
strong
advantages
of
moving
this
to
the
north
then
you'll
notice.
N
In
the
plan
that
play
area
those
areas
correspond
to
the
current
plan.
It's
still
similar
players,
our
program
for
the
destination
destination
playground
will
remain
the
same,
might
take
on
a
little
bit
different
character
because
we
don't
have
the
great
change
but
we'll
still
have
all
the
same
fun
amenities
for
families
to
take
advantage
of
isomer.
A
B
Right
I
got
a
couple
concerns,
and
maybe
you
haven't
touched
on
them
yet,
but
I
don't
want
to
see
what
I
would
like
to
see
is
a
separation
between
the
respite
area,
in
other
words,
the
lake
area
and
the
playground.
I,
don't
want
to
put
the
playground
on
top
of
the
lake,
because
there's
people
are
gonna,
go
down
wanting
to
read,
or
there
may
be
weddings
there.
B
It
might
be
something,
and
now
we
have
a
playground
and
which
is
very
important
but
I'd
like
to
see
some
separation
in
that,
then
the
other
thing
that
that
I,
like
this
plan,
but
losing
the
parking
on
drew,
Street
I,
think
it's
gonna
be
problematic,
because
I
remember
receiving
a
lot
of
letters
from
folk
club,
people
and
Murray.
You
know
people
that
had
boats.
B
That
said,
don't
take
our
parking
away
down
there
and
you
know
at
least
you
had
20-something
parking
spaces
there,
and
now
you
have
won't
have
that
many
they'll
just
be
parking
on
the
other
side.
So
I'd
like
to
see
something
incorporated
before
we
can
have
something
there
for
people,
because
those
boat
docks
go
almost
the
entire
width
of
the
park
and
to
have
them
park
and
then
on
the
other
side
and
walk
all
the
way
over
I.
Think
it's
unfair.
Well,.
A
B
N
N
N
Of
parking
is
here
and
then
to
go
back
to
council
member
there's
a
question
about
parking.
We
looked
at
it.
Please.
Please
understand:
we've
just
really
conceptually
this
very
high
level
right,
so
you
can
see
in
red
where
we're
playing
with
this
idea
of
potentially
adding
parking
at
the
end
year
and
that
will
yield
about
50
spaces,
so
we'd
actually
would
gain
20-plus
spaces
over
the
existing
plan.
If
staff
and
stating
things
that's
a
good
thing
to
do,.
N
N
N
We
still
keep
the
picnic
structures
here,
so
we
still
think
we
can
have
this
passive
area
around
the
lake,
we're
also
reducing
the
lake.
We
have
more
lake
area
volume
than
we
need
we're
making
it
so
we're
still
being
them
aesthetic
feature.
We
do
not
want
this
to
look
like
a
storm
drainage
on.
We
want
to
look
like
a
real
park,
water
body,
but
we
can
reduce
it
some
to
accommodate.
C
N
N
A
L
Merit
thanks
for
making
a
comment
that
that's
where
a
part
of
the
tension
is,
is
its
shared
parking.
So
when
the
dock
users,
when
the
boat
users
come
their
expectation,
is
that
there
is
parking
available
when
they
come
in
the
meantime,
you
have
other
Park
users.
You
know
who
can
use
that
parking,
so
our
challenge
has
been
not
to
exclusively
make
that
parking
for
the
marina
users,
because
when
you
do
that,
then
you
don't
have
parking
available
for
other
park
users
and
if
the
marina
users
aren't
there,
then
F
parking
too
is
just
sitting
vacant.
L
C
L
I
I
You
don't
you
tuber
for
an
event
like
that
they're
using
uber
and
left
to
get
to
their
destination
and
and
using
them
to
get
home
afterwards.
You
know
it's
weird
time
for
changing
I'm,
I'm
kind
of
a
dinosaur,
but
even
myself,
I'm
using
fighting
myself
using
uber
more
than
I
used
to
so
that
I
don't
have
to,
because
uber
can
drive
me
up
to
the
front
door
of
where
I'm
going
to
drop
me
off
and
pick
me
up.
I
I
don't
have
to
fight
for
parking
space
and
everything
so
I
mean
those
times
are
changing
and
you
know
yeah
we're
gonna
need
to
part
build
some
parking
in
downtown
downtown,
deserves
it
and
needs
it,
but
to
come
to
the
events
in
that
to
come
to
the
events
that
are
gonna
be
at
this
facility
to
me,
you
know
parking
is
not
an
overreaching
issue,
because
people
have
found
their
way
into
this
park
for
holiday
with
without
problems
and
they
park
on.
You
know
some
of
the
businesses
on
drew
Street.
They
sell
their
parking
spaces.
I
A
C
A
You've
got
the
County
garage,
you've
got
the
city
hall,
surface
parking
I
mean
for
decades.
Jazz
holiday
has
accommodated
12
to
14
thousand
people
on
most
nights,
and
that's
just
simply
not
what
you're
going
to
have
here.
You
know
the
majority
of
the
time
they're
going
to
be
much
smaller
crowds,
I.
Think
one
of
the
other
differences
that's
not
talked
about
enough
is
that
these
are
not
gonna
be
festivals.
You
know
we,
we
have
the
Hispanic
Heritage
Festival,
we
have
the
Jazz
holiday
festival.
A
Those
are
concerts
that
literally
start
early
afternoon
and
go
to
ten
o'clock.
Most
of
these
other
performances
are
gonna,
be
two
to
three
hours,
and
most
of
them
occur
at
night
when
the
parking
garages
have
no
occupancy,
so
I
think
another
thing
that
can
be
considered
as
having
a
circulator
with
a
Jolly
trolley
by
all
of
those
venues.
N
Remember
that
central
to
the
park
is
the
end
of
Cleveland
and
the
whole
idea
to
speak
to
your
point
about
why
chair
I
mean
those
of
us
great
hair,
we're
less
inclined
to
use
right
here,
but
I
use
it
now,
almost
all
the
time,
but
my
kids
and
grandkids
they.
You
know
that's
just
our
normal
go-to
way
to
to
get
this
on
place.
They
don't
think
about
taking
their
own
car.
N
F
I
understand
that
and
I
agree
when
I
travel
into
other
cities
I.
We
generally
take
uber
and
ride
shares.
But
if
this
is,
you
know,
people
have
talked
about
this
as
being
a
world
class
amphitheater.
That's
gonna
draw
people
from
all
over
the
state
and
all
over
the
country
or
whatever.
If
they're
coming
from
the
state,
you
know
they're
they're
driving
they're,
not
taking
an
uber
from
Orlando
or
or
Tampa.
F
A
A
Done
a
fairly
significant
amount
of
study
on
this
I
think
probably
some
but
I've
got
a
lot
of
comments.
There
are
any
more
questions
about
the
actual
design.
I
mean
I'm
in
full.
Support
of
see.
I
have
been
for
quite
a
while
I
just
think
it
is
a
better
design
for
the
entire
part.
Remember
that
when
imagine
Clearwater
started
this
was
a
committee
made
up
of
different
constituencies.
A
There
were
some
people
that
want
some
conservation
and
the
ecological
components.
There
were
people
that
wanted
playgrounds
and
places
for
family
activities
and
that
there
was
an
entertainment
venue
which
we've
had
for
over
60
years
of
coaching
the
park
I
mean
there
used
to
be
a
they
called
it.
The
casino
right.
I
B
B
B
A
But
I
mean
I
think
it
needs
to
be
moved
to
the
north,
because
I
think
bisecting.
The
other
two
uses
is
just
not
a
good
idea.
I
think
pointing
at
library
helps
with
sound.
The
load-in
loadout
is
going
to
be
significantly
less
of
a
distraction
by
coming
down.
Drew
Street
and
you
just
pave
less
so
I
think
that's
a
benefit.
I
think
the
view
quartered
on
Cleveland
is
significantly
better
in
the
rake,
which
is
the
topography
leading
up
to
the
library.
Just
lends
itself
to
this.
A
I
am
concerned
about
the
overall
parking,
but
you
know
everybody
has
been
pretty
up
in
arms
about
some
of
this,
and
especially
the
roof
which
I
talked
about
putting
the
roof
on
top
of
the
library
as
a
safe,
shade
structure
and
for
the
elements
we
talked
about
yesterday,
shade
structure
on
the
East
Gate
way,
without
any
questions
of
why
you
would
do
that,
it's
just
logically
makes
sense
and
I
think
the
roof
offers
a
lot
of
other
things.
My
concept
for
coachmen
Park
is
to
have
all
three
elements
blend
together
and
work
harmoniously.
A
We
have
been
talking
about
upgrading,
coachmen
Park
for
over
20
years,
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
marina,
which
I
think
was
a
good
addition.
But
you
know
I
envision.
Farmers
markets
here
under
the
covering
art
shows
plays
graduations
ceremonies
for
our
sports
tourism.
We
used
to
do
movies
down
at
the
park.
I
see
that
starting
again
food
festivals
I
mean
let
your
imagine
imagine
a
ssin
run
wild
with
the
type
of
programming
we
live
in
Florida.
A
It
rains
we
get
lightning,
but
more
than
anything,
it's
also
the
Sun
and
I
think
this
allows
programming
to
be
more
consistent
throughout
the
year.
I
want
to
program
coachman
parks
so
that
we
have
activity
going
on
all
the
time
the
CNC
is
talked
about
it
Conservancy
I
support
that
I'll
be
one
of
the
first
people
that
will
donate
to
a
gif
if
it
actually
goes
forward.
A
I
go
to
an
attorney
when
I
need
electrical
work,
done,
I,
go
to
an
electrician
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
We've
gone
to
people
and
they've,
given
us
their
opinion
on
what
the
right
size
is.
So
you
know
I
know
a
lot
of
people
have
said:
let's
delay
this
because
of
kovat,
but
sometimes
you
need
to
move
forward
and
kovin
will
end
at
some
point
in
the
not-too-distant
future,
and
I
want
to
harken
back
to
a
couple
other
projects
that
were
of
enormous
magnitudes.
A
A
It
changed
traffic
patterns
which
some
people
think
are
good
and
bad.
Beach
walk
was
despised,
absolutely
despised
by
a
lot
of
the
people
out
on
the
beach
with
the
businesses,
the
restaurants
and
hotels,
it
was
a
huge
inconvenience,
but
ultimately
it
was
the
best
thing
that
we
could
have
done
out
on
the
beach
and
it
completely
transformed
it.
I
think
we
missed
a
huge
opportunity
in
the
aquarium
in
2012,
unfortunately,
but
that
opportunity's
flown
the
coop
and
they're
building
at
$80
eighty
million
dollar
facility
on
island
estates.
A
A
I
Looking
at
this
and
I
agree
with
Plan
C
is
is
really
the
best
option
and
that's
the
one
I'm
looking
at
but
and
then
you
mentioned
the
Conservancy.
My
question
is
timewise
because
I'm
ready
I
don't
want
this
to
be
on
earth.
This
is
I.
Don't
want
this
to
be
done
in
a
crock-pot.
I
want
this
to
be
done
on
a
microwave,
a
microwave
but
I
want
you
know,
what's
final
product
to
be
a
gourmet
meal,
but
but
I'd
like
to
start
talking
about
putting
together
the
membership
of
that
you
know,
potential
Conservancy
get
there.
I
I
mean
I
want
the
plants
to
come
from.
The
experts
show
us
what
it
does
have
a
have
a
quick
turnaround
of
this
group
of
sentence
to
look
at
it
and
say
we
like
this
aspect,
we're
a
little
questionable
on
this.
We
get
that
feedback
and
we
can
immediately
we
move
fast,
but
I
want
this
to
be
done.
You
know
like
a
horse
race,
not
like
a
not
a
normal,
slow
pace.
Well,.
I
Am
too
but
I
think
we,
you
know
we'll
make
certain
decision,
I
mean
thirsty
what
exactly
I
guess
the
question
becomes,
what
decisions,
precisely
we
make
Thursday
I,
know
obviously
location
of
the
the
bandshell
and
orientation
of
it.
That's
decision
that
will
be
making
Thursday
night,
but
the
exact
layout
of
the
amenities
in
the
playground
and
everything
else.
I,
don't
know
that
those
are
decisions
we'll
be
making.
I
A
Well,
I
believe
that
we
should
get
I
think
we
ought
to
be
talking
about
elements
that
we
want
included.
We
eliminated
an
element
earlier
today,
library
I,
do
not
think
that
we
ought
to
get
into
the
nets
on
what
playground
equipment
and
what
other
features
I
think
that
is
what
you
turn
to
professionals
for
my
electrician
doesn't
ask
me
what
I
think
about
you
know
how
he's
wiring
some
conduit.
I
say
this
is
what
I
want
done.
A
L
I
mean
I
think
we
need
to
give
you
some
feedback
on
what
exactly
we
need
on
Thursday
night
from
you.
We
have
other
partners
that
are
waiting
for
us
to
make
some
key
decisions.
So
if
we're
talking
about
expanding
conversation
and
and
getting
more
input
that
impacts
design,
then
you
need
to
know
what's
the
consequence
of
doing
that,
when
we've
got
partners
ready
to
to
start
turning
dirt
and
doing
those
kinds
of
things.
K
D
Well,
I
think,
like
the
last
item,
we're
getting
some
good
direction
from
you
here
on
this
discussion.
So
what
we
need
to
do
on
Thursday
night
is
to
determine
that.
Indeed,
you
want
to
build
the
back
of
house
the
cover,
seating
and
move
it
to
the
north.
Then
we
will
design
a
balance
of
the
park
around
that,
for
you,
I
think.
D
D
But
we
will
try
to
include
those
I
think
the
one
thing
that
I
do
want
you
to
have
some
input
from,
and
that
may
be,
maybe
against
us
to
talk
to
us
about
the
phasing
and
really
what
we
need
to
do
to
try
to
get
Duke
started
on
some
of
their
infrastructure,
because
what
we
don't
want
to
do
is
put
ourselves
in
a
position
where
we
have
unmanageable
delay
that
we
cannot
control.
So.
G
So
we've
worked
with
Duke
for
months
and
I'm
getting
a
commitment
from
Duke
on
the
existing
utilities
that
are
there
and
the
new
conduits
that
they
need
to
put
in
in
order
to
build
your
part,
wherever
we
put
things
so
gradient
wants
you
to
speak
to
that,
to
bring
up
our
facing
and
the
dates
of
the
time
showing
the
different
routing
of
the
utilities
that
are
there.
Grady
Freeman
is
our
superintendent,
absolutely
good.
O
Morning
so
during
the
design
and
for
us
being
able
to
plan
the
work,
we
understood
that
there
was
still
some
elements
that
need
to
be
discussed,
which
we
are
today
on
your
screen.
You
can
see
phase
1
and
phase
1a
on
the
bottom
right-hand
side
of
the
page
phase.
1
is
the
library,
development
work
and
then
phase
1a
would
be
the
utility
work
that
services,
the
library,
but
also
the
external
elements
of
the
library
and
the
north
bluff.
O
So
what
we
wanted
to
focus
on,
especially
was
the
force
main
work
so
in
in
this
plane,
you
can
kind
of
see
in
blue
that
there
has
to
be
a
force.
Vein,
that's
read
done
across
the
western
end
of
the
park
and
it
kind
of
ties
in
to
the
existing
force
main
on
the
north
end,
as
well
as
the
duke
energy
conduits,
here
kind
of
shown
in
blue
and
different
colors.
O
This
allows
you
to
take
their
existing
feeders
that
go
to
Clearwater
Beach,
but
also
go
across
the
park
and
get
them
out
of
this
central
area
here.
So
we
would
relocate
conduits
on
the
eastern
end
from
kind
of
the
western
side
of
the
library
over
across
to
the
to
the
center
pull
boxes
here,
but
also
another
big
portion
of
this
would
be
on
the
south
end
near
the
condominium
building.
O
O
That
will
give
us
a
better
opportunity
to
be
able
to
put
the
lake
in
to
be
able
to
put
these
foundation
elements
in
these
deep
elements
and
throughout
the
central
part
of
this
area,
and
we
understand
that,
as
the
design
involves
right
if
the
lake
gets
smaller,
so
the
parking
amenities
change
stuff
like
that,
we
can
always
kind
of
readjust.
How
we
faced
excuse
me
and
Chuck
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
that
all
of
this
work
that
you
see
on
this
sheet
is
all
underground.
O
It
will
not
be
seen
it's
just
enabling
work
to
get
Duke
Energy
going
and
to
that
point
of
a
big
portion
of
this
is
Duke
is
a
public
utility
and
they
are
very
far
to
schedule
to
get
to
commit
to
dates
and
everything.
So
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
the
condiment
work,
we
would
install
it
to
where
it
doesn't
interfere
with
our
work
in
the
future,
but
it
also
allows
Duke
energy
to
not
be
in
our
way.
B
K
If
you
recall,
the
bandshell
building
itself
does
have
a
bank
of
varying
restrooms.
That's
intended
to
serve
about
half
the
capacity,
so
they
would
stay
there
adjacent
to
the
multi-purpose
room.
The
question
about
where
the
other
half
go
is
still
something
we
need
to
look
at
and
when
you
look
at
the
location
with
the
splash
pad
something
we
still
have
that
that
requires
restrooms
as
well.
They're,
probably
going
to
be
too
far
away
to
serve
both
so
we're,
probably
looking
at
a
different
building
somewhere
we're
just
not
sure
where
okay.
K
O
Point
if
some
of
the
utilities
change
in
that
aspect
of
the
building's
moved,
it
would
just
be
a
little
bit
of
shifting
and
some
coordination
in
the
field
of
how
this
utilities
got
ran.
But
generally,
this
is
the
general
idea
of
how
we
would
do
this
moving
on
to
the
site,
logistics
in
fencing
plan.
So
what
we
wanted
to
do
with
this
phase
1b
portion
of
the
park
we
wanted
to
help.
O
Everybody
understand
that
during
this
process
of
phase
1
B,
when
the
rest
of
the
northern
portion
of
coachmen
Park
is
open,
we
wanted
to
just
kind
of
show
the
site
access
right
to
starting
on
Pierce
Street.
You
have
inbound
outbound
public
traffic
to
get
to
the
condominiums
there
on
the
southwestern
corner.
But
in
this
aspect
too,
we
would
also
fence
off
the
two
existing
parking
lots.
That's
there,
because
we
would
need
to
demolish
those
in
this
first
portion,
which
I'll
get
to
that
demo
planet.
O
Just
a
second
here,
so
that
that
traffic
pattern
will
remain
open
on
Cleveland
Street.
You
would
still
have
access
in
and
out
to
Cleveland
Street
down
to
the
eastern
end
of
the
existing
ferry
parking
lot,
so
that
would
still
be
open
to
the
public,
and
then
our
construction
offense
would
continue
on
from
there,
and
we
would
take
the
rest
of
that
road
out.
O
Giroux
Street
side,
speaking
of
traffic,
you
can
still
have
it
bad
outbound
traffic
during
this
first
base,
so
to
speak
all
the
way
to
the
marina,
the
bay,
the
bay
walk
area
and
the
ferry
parking
area
here
as
well.
I
did
want
to
make
note
mention:
I'll,
show
you
a
blow-up
in
a
second.
This
green
line
down
here
shows
a
pedestrian
detour.
O
What
that's
going
to
do
is
is
allow
us
for
the
library
work
on
the
exterior
side
to
be
able
to
utilize
the
sidewalk,
therefore
accessing
construction,
obviously
for
Public
Safety,
we
wouldn't
want
pedestrians
or
anybody
walking
near
that
area,
and
we
would
want
to
make
sure
that
they
had
a
safe
path
around,
which
I'll
show
you
here
in
just
a
second.
The
other
thing
that
I
would
like
to
mention
is
this:
Harbor
View
building
is
no
longer
shown.
That's
no
longer
there
excuse
me,
but
it's
still
showing
us
on
this
drawing.
O
Frame
total
time
frame
from
mobilization,
groundbreaking
to
completion,
I
would
say
thirty
six
months,
that's
complete
turned
over
and
everything
done
now.
That's
a
rough
estimation.
We
have
not
built
a
high
level
scheduled
breakdown,
that's
a
rough
estimation.
So
when
we
broke
it
down,
we
could
actually
get
a
little
bit
better
idea.
What
that
would
be
so.
G
O
So
I
just
like
to
touch
on
the
pedestrian
access
point.
This
is
the
kind
of
two
views
one
from
the
south,
one
from
the
north
back
in
on
Osceola
at
drew
Street,
so
the
pedestrian
detour
would
be
here
to
where
they
can't
walk
by
the
library
anymore.
On
the
north
side,
we
would
maintain
the
fire
lane
and
the
fire
emergency
access
to
the
fire,
hydrants
stamp
fight
for
the
building,
but
we
would
ultimately
put
a
fence
around
the
parking
lot
or
I'm.
Sorry,
excuse
me
around
the
sidewalk
area
and
take
away
these
parallel
parking
spaces.
O
The
reason
for
that
is,
if
we
only
took
half
of
the
sidewalk
with
defense,
you
don't
have
a
DA
access
there
because
of
the
trees
they
eliminate
your
5-foot
rule
you
need
so.
Instead
of
trying
to
take
half
the
sidewalk
and
not
maintain
a
DA
access,
it
would
be
better
to
divert
the
pedestrian
traffic
onto
the
east
side
of
Osceola
and
down
the
street
just
past
the
area
where
we
would
be
working
here
on
the
library
there's
another
crosswalk
where
they
can
go
back
across
and
vice
versa.
O
Coming
from
the
south
to
the
north,
and
then
also
one
thing
that
we
were
going
to,
we
are
gonna
do
as
part
of
this
phase,
one
B.
This
is
the
southwestern
corner
where
the
condominiums
exist
the
parking
lot.
We
would
like
to
put
a
fence
up
around
it,
but
we
want
to
maintain
this
access,
walkway
that
takes
people
front
to
and
from
the
condominiums
to
the
marina
and
the
and
the
dock
slips
that
are
there
now.
So
throughout
phase
one,
this
would
remain
open
to
the
public.
O
We
would
try
to
as
long
as
possible
towards
the
end
of
phase
one,
if
not
into
the
beginning
of
phase
2
phase
3.
We
would
eventually
take
this
away
to
do
the
work
that
we
would
need
to
do.
However,
we
would
like
to
maintain
public
access
here
as
long
as
humanly
possible,
and
then
this
is
kind
of
a
discipline
you
of
the
turn
in
and
out
of
the
condominiums
there
on
the
southwest
corner.
We
would
shortage.
We
show
a
construction
gate
right
there
for
our
access
to
our
subcontractors.
A
O
O
Correct
so
what
we
could
do,
though,
is
if
we
can
in
our
phasing
part
of
this,
we
could
actually
build
this
side.
Parking
lot
on
the
south
end,
potentially
and
open
it
to
the
public.
While
we
build
that
northern
portion
of
the
next
phase
of
the
project,
something
something
that
we
can
consider
absolutely
I,
think.
O
Then
we
just
kind
of
wanted
to
break
out
and
show
some
of
the
demo
demolition
that
would
be
done
and
that's
part
of
phase
one
overall.
Well,
this
parking
lots,
tennis
courts,
the
green
space
sidewalks
everything
south
of
Cleveland
Street,
but
also
including
this
portion
of
Cleveland
injury
that
comes
around
to
the
marina
entrance
here.
What
would
need
to
go
out
because
of
the
utility
work
we
would
have
to
do
in
that
area?
We
show
pier
Street
being
milled
and
resurfaced.
O
We
would
do
that
at
night
and
we
would
do
that
towards
the
end
when
it's
what
its
best
for
everybody
we
wouldn't
just
go
in
here
mill.
This
up
would
leave
that
road
as
long
as
we
possibly
can,
and
then
the
pic
area
would
be
part
of
the
parking
lot.
If
we
potentially
could
do
that,
if
that
gets
eliminated,
then
that
pink
area
will
not
be
something
we
do
as
part
of
phase
1,
but
also
as
as
a
request
from
the
city
staff.
O
O
So,
to
kind
of
give
you
guys
an
idea
just
for
Duke
Energy's
work
in
this
portion
of
phase
1
from
the
northern
feeder
cables
that
go
to
Clearwater
Beach.
We
would.
We
would
be
running
seven
to
nine
hundred
foot
conduits
from
pull
boxes
here,
just
just
kind
of
southwest
of
the
library
or
excuse
me
northwest
of
the
library
over
to
to
existing
pool
boxes
and
three
new
pool
boxes
that
will
be
kind
of
centralized
in.
Where
is
the
parking
for
the
ferry
now,
so
those
runs
facilitate
some
of
the
power.
O
That's
got
to
go
and
get
rerouted
over
to
Clearwater
Beach,
but
also
on
the
southern
end.
There
has
to
be
new
feeders
that
go
from
Osceola
between
Pearson
Cleveland
over
the
city,
municipal
building,
but
also
the
condominiums
and
then
down
the
hill.
They
kind
of
go
to
the
yard.
That's
there
now,
there's
some
transformers
there
and
then
they've
got
some
existing
underground
vaults.
They
have
to
have
new
conduits
run
two
transformers
over
here
on
Cleveland
Street
and
back
around.
O
All
of
this
that
I
show
on
blue
is
part
of
this
first
portion
of
the
work
we're
doing,
and
then
the
red
is
the
conceptual
conduits
and
transformers
as
the
design
kind
of
changes.
Some
of
that
will
change
slightly,
but
we
we
didn't
want
to
show
that
in
this
first
portion
we
really
wanted
to
show
you
what,
in
our
initial
part
in
the
phase
of
this
work,
that
we
wanted
to
get
done
and
I
just
included
an
exhibit
or
excuse
me.
O
A
F
O
Wouldn't
be
at
this
stage?
No,
we
would
do
that
after
the
deeper
utilities
kind
of
from
an
infrastructure
standpoint.
We
would
work
our
way
from
deep
to
shallow,
so
that
would
be
kind
of
more
into
before
the
finishes
in
the
landscaping
we've
been
anticipated
in
hardscape
work
puts
leaves
and
stuff
like
that
that
needed
to
happen,
but
that
could
easily
be
done.
Yes,.
G
O
While
this
design
is
finishing
and
evolving
and
there's
no
issues
with
the
water
table,
there's
there
is
no
issues
with
doing
that,
because
those
conduits
are
sealed,
even
if
they
get
water
in
them.
Dukes
not
concerned
with
that.
In
my
past
experience
work
with
Chico
and
tamp
Don
Duke
here,
but
that's
not
an
issue
all
right.
Any.
J
C
A
A
Well,
talk
about
I
mean
there's
a
certain
amount
of
infrastructure
that
just
needs
to
be
done
across
the
park.
That's
Tim,
this
might
be
better
for
you,
I
mean
I.
I
was
breaking
down
the
budget
as
it
stood.
Obviously,
we've
taken
out
a
portion
of
the
library
which
changed
things,
but
you
know
I
was
looking
at
the
the
gardens
and
the
North
Bay
walk
and
then
the
playground
area,
that's
about
25,
3,.
E
That's
kind
of
what
we're
talking
about
with
the
enabling
phases,
so
the
underground
works
on
the
heavy
lifting
that
has
to
be
done
to
get
things
out
of
the
way.
If
we
can
start
that
as
soon
as
possible,
if
I
can
get
approval
to
move
forward
with
that,
Skanska
can
go
out
with
their
vendors.
There
put
it
on
the
street.
You
get
their
bids
in
get
it
turned
around
I'm,
going
to
say
worst
case
scenario.
E
We
could
get
the
GMP
possibly
to
GM
fees,
one
for
the
library
one
for
the
enabling
work
as
soon
as
we
can,
but
no
later
than
mid-september
for
everything.
I
think
we
can
get
some
of
that
in
here
sooner
as
a
separate
GMP,
just
to
get
things
going,
but
to
show
good
faith
with
Duke
and
that
we're
acknowledging
their
schedule
and
their
business
plan
a
lot
of
things
they
have
they've
ordered
they're
ready
to
go,
but
if
they
can't
pull
the
trigger,
then
they
have
to
stop
reschedule.
Who
can
work
on
it?
E
Alfa's
other
people
are,
you
know,
retirements,
all
that
stuff,
so
I
think
we're
in
good
shape
to
it.
It's
six
weeks
for
them
to
get
the
GMP.
We
go
through
the
us
to
get
it
back
to
you
for
counsel,
there's
a
chance.
We
can
get
some
of
it
earlier,
but
mid-september
say
the
14th
I
think
is
that
council
meeting
will
have
the
vast
majority
of
that,
but
we
will
also
have
Stantec
working
on
the
revisions
to
the
design.
E
E
They
don't
mention
the
mr.
owner
mentioned
that
we
went
to
the
pier
and
saw
that
work.
There's
a
lot
of
similarities
and
some
of
the
things
we're
doing.
We
saw
some
innovative
ideas
there
that
I
think
we're
gonna
look
at
as
I
mentioned.
We
have
an
ala
carte
list.
If
you
will
of
everything
everybody
wanted
in
the
park.
We're
gonna
look
at
the
key
priorities
to
get
everything
we
want
and
work
through
those
first
at
what
we
can
again.
That's
gonna,
be
tempered
by
him
coming
out
and
getting
real
prices
we
anticipate
to
come
down.
E
We
will
prioritize
the
things
we
take
off
the
list
that
we
can
add
them
back
in
I've
discussed
this
with
mr.
Raven.
You
know
what
our
budget
is,
there's
other
things
that
have
been
assigned
to
this
project
and
they're
moving
forward.
Those
are
monies
that
have
been
spent.
We're
gonna
know
what
the
bottom
line
is
and
we're
gonna
work
up
to
that.
I
do
not
anticipate
us
coming
back
and
changing
pricing
significantly.
E
L
And
thanks
Mary
in
response
to
councilmember
bunker.
If
we
can't
build
a
park
as
designed
with
the
money
we
have,
we
will
come
back
to
you:
we're
not
going
to
trade
off
the
the
pavilion
for
the
other
parts
of
the
park.
If
your
expectation
is
and
I
believe
it
is
for
us
the
bill
but
bill
the
park
as
design
and
we're
gonna
do
that,
and
we
will
only
come
back
to
you
if
we
can't
do
it
and
that's
typically
how.
A
And
then
we
triaging
cuz,
you
know
if
you
kind
of
break
these
into
bigger
chunks.
The
bluff
walks
are
5
million
together
in
the
north
and
the
south.
The
entertainment
venues
23,
the
gardens
in
the
play
area
are
25
3,
the
gateways
12
you
know,
and
then
the
marina
and
they
walk
is
another.
Six
six
I
think
there's
a
bunch
of
large
components
in
there.
I.
F
Councilmember
Beckman,
thank
you.
I
have
I
go
back
to
mr.
dunks
opening
statement
where
he
stated
that
council
has
a
priority
for
a
more
aggressive,
expandable
or
expanded
entertainment
venue
with
more
usage,
a
different
design
that
had
been
proposed
by
staff
or
consultants
and
and,
quite
frankly,
I
think,
had
been
voted
on
by
residents,
and
so
that's
why
we're
talking
about
this
today
and
while
I
can
agree
that
a
ban
shall
Amphitheatre
whatever
we
want
to
call,
it
might
be
better
placed
facing
the
library
on
the
north
side.
I'm.
F
Okay,
with
you
know,
repositioning
that
that
seems
to
make
sense
as
far
as
offering
a
third
natural
wall
I
feel
I
feel
like
I.
Have
the
weight
of
these
thousands
of
conversations
I've
had
over
the
last
two
years
here
tonight
or
today
to
say
this
is
not
what
our
residents
want,
and
this
is
not
what
staff
recommended.
This
is
not
what
experts
recommended.
We
are
not
discussing
a
two
million
dollar
operating
deficit
and
we're
not
discussing
a
nine
million
dollar
budget
deficit
deficit
minimally.
It
seems
like
from
our
meeting
last
Thursday.
F
You
know
I
I,
just
I
think
the
people
had
spoken
with
the
referendum
that
did
not
articulate
a
four
thousand
covered
seat.
World-Class
amphitheater
I
have
no
doubt
that
that
route,
that
Kerr
Hall
or
whoever
we
contract
with
can
fill
those
seats
because
you
know,
as
I
was
told
by
Ruth
Eckerd
Hall
representatives,
there's
a
need
for
a
four
thousand
seat
plus
you
know
venue
that
that's
why
they're
pushing
for
this
number
and
when
our
city
paid
more
money
to
go
out
to
consultants
to
see
what
might
work
for
and
expand
it.
F
But
it's
the
operating
expenses.
It's
you
know
what
is
the
visual
going
to
be
with
you
know,
I
heard
someone
at
an
meeting
last
year,
the
year
before,
when
I
said
in
here
through
the
presentations
of
what
was
an
appropriate
venue.
Is
there
are
no
free
concerts,
and
so,
if
there
are
no
free
concerts,
does
that
mean
no
one's
allowed
in
the
park
during
you
know
a
you
know
that
high-end
act
who's
performing?
Are
we
going
to
have
ugly-looking
fencing
along
there
that
comes
in
and
out
I?
F
Just
you
know:
I
I
I
just
had
to
get
that
on
the
record.
If
you
know
I
know
that
generally
there
aren't
the
votes
up
here
to
to
pull
back
on
4,000
covered
c-major,
world-class
amphitheater,
and
so
once
that's
decided
or,
however,
we're
going
to
decide
that
individually,
because
we're
kind
of
talking,
like
that's
already
been
decided,
it's
gonna,
be
that
big
there
I
have
no
problem
with
moving
a
band
show
there.
My
problem
is
with
with
that
size
and
and
and
I
think
you
know
we
don't
have
a
guarantee
on
a
return
on
investment.
I
Council,
member
Hamilton
and
I
know
Michael
said
it
and
just
said,
I
don't
view
this
as
building
a
world-class
facility
IBEW
this
as
building
a
functional,
a
quality
venue
that
satisfies
the
needs
of
our
community
in
our
region.
This
isn't
world
class
in
my
world
class.
This
world
class
would
be
costing
twice
what
we're
talking
about
spending
its.
I
I
You
know
the
iron
is
hot
right
now
you
strike
when
the
iron's
hot,
when
you
have
an
opportunity
to
draw
some
cost
savings
down,
and-
and
you
know
the
budget
with
discussion
we
had
last
week-
yeah
the
nine
million
dollar
shortfall
number
was
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
bill,
but
that
was
kind
of
a
worst-case
scenario:
number
that
wasn't
a
we're
gonna
be
nine.
In
short,
the
worst
case
scenario
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
that
number
to
get
decreased
tremendously,
but
this
is.
I
A
B
I
know
that
wait
and
I
represent
the
old
guard.
You
know
we're
the
ones
that
voted
the
to
have
the
four
thousand
seat
roof,
but
a
lot
of
thought
went
into
that
everybody
calls
us
an
amphitheater
amphitheater.
This
is
an
amphitheater.
If
you
take
the
roof
away,
we
have
a
band.
Shell,
that's
been
modified,
we
have
a
pavilion.
H
B
Rather
call
it
performance
pavayne
for
a
music
pavilion.
We
have
one
there
now,
but
every
time
we
have
an
event
you
got
to
bring
in
a
stage
because
the
stage
there's
too
small
you
got
to
have
word
and
the
experts
came
to
us
and
said
you
need
to
have
a
hundred
I
heard.
You
know
you
need
to
have
a
certain
size
stage
or
they
just
you're.
Gonna
have
to
set
up
the
whole
thing
like
you
had
before.
So
we
made
allowances
on
getting
the
right
stage
now.
B
The
other
thing
was
the
mobile
homes
that
they
bring
in
as
green
rooms
for
all
the
performance,
people
and
I.
Don't
want
to
see
that
again,
if
we're
doing
a
park,
a
brand-new
Park,
that's
a
beautiful
park.
We
don't
need
to
have
every
time
we
have
an
event,
bring
mobile
homes
and
where
they
can,
the
performers
can
change.
So
we're
doing
a
back,
a
house
that
has
all
that
with
what
they
need
to
have
in
there.
It's
not
overly
big,
but
it
you
won't
have
to
bring
in
all
this
stuff.
B
We
have
to
bring
it
every
time.
We
have
an
event
now
the
size,
just
as
a
as
a
cap,
a
recap
of
what
we
talked
about.
We
had
a
lot
of
different
people
come
in
and
say
this
is
you
know
for
our
area
you
needed
to
have
at
least
a
4,000
foot
4,000
seat
cover
now
I
want
everybody
to
know.
We
do
not
have
4,000
seats
out
there.
It's
a
green
area.
These
are
every
time
we
have
an
event.
B
They're
gonna
go
and
they're
gonna
set
up
seats
now
whether
we
have
a
thousand
seats
or
4,000
seats,
depending
on
the
size
of
the
concert.
That's
how
many
seats
are
gonna
set
up
when
we're
not
having
a
concert,
there's
no
seats.
So
it's
not
like
all
these
other
put
amphitheaters
that
you
can
go
and
look
at
all
over
Florida
that
have
fixed
seating
that
are
on
you
know,
big,
an
angle
and
everything.
B
That's
not
going
to
be
the
way
it
is
in
this,
but
the
actual
position
of
our
pavilion
now
that
we're
we're
talking
about
is
perfect
because
we
have
a
bluff
that
we
can
use.
That's
already
there
for
people
to
sit
on
I,
never
was
big
before
on
bringing
in
and
grading
out.
You
know
even
the
small
of
a
grading
areas.
It
was
I
like
a
nice
flat
surface
which
we're
gonna
have
now
for
our
green
area.
B
So
I
think
the
mayor
covered
the
the
roof
part
of
it.
You
know
I
I
love
the
Sun
I've
been
here
all
my
life,
but
I
can't
take
a
lot
of
Sun
anymore
and
whenever
you
we
have
events
like
even
anything
other
than
performances
having
a
a
covered
area
that
people
can
set
up.
Underneath
is
a
good
thing.
Now
we
got
to
push
down
the
way
you
got
a
beautiful
view
of
the
you
know
of
the
bay
I.
I
I
That
gives
you
shade
when
you
want
shade
and
protects
you
from
the
rain
and
the
elements
when
it's
raining,
but
on
a
beautiful
night,
be
able
to
open
up
and
see
the
stars,
but
now
we're
going
to
add
another
twenty
million
dollars
to
this
project
for
a
retractable
roof,
that's
not
an
option.
So
it's
unless
you
can
find
20
million
dollars.
But
you
know
so
we
we
live
in
Florida,
it's
hot,
it's
humid!
It
rains.
I
It
makes
perfect
sense
to
have
coverage
over
a
portion
of
the
seating
and
talking
to
the
people
who
know
the
business
4,000
they
actually
wanted.
A
few.
More
than
that
you
know,
4,000
was
the
number.
After
having
a
discussion
that
we
came
up
with
and
said,
that's
a
number.
We
can
be
comfortable
with
and
move
forward.
So
I
mean
it's.
It
is
what
it
is:
I
mean:
we've.
F
A
A
We
already
have
an
indoor
amphitheater
with
2,300
seats,
with
all
the
amenities,
air
conditioning
parking
seats,
sound
system
and
everything
else.
Why
would
you
do
placate
it,
especially
when
the
city
owns
that
facility
gives
a
small
subsidy
compared
to
what
the
Mohave
and
the
straws
receives,
and
now
we
create
a
direct
competitor.
A
A
F
F
Not
I
think
they
do
wonderful
things
in
the
community
and
and
I
love.
The
Capitol
Theatre
I've
been
out
to
Ruth
Eckerd
Hall.
A
lot
of
people
enjoy
that,
that's
not
to
say
it's.
It's
not
name-calling
down.
That's
just
that's
the
title
of
the
entity
that
wants
to
operate
in
that
Park
and
they
want
to
operate
at
a
certain
level
because
it
fits
into
what
they
already
have
established
or
when
I
had
my
one-on-one
conversation
with
them.
F
It's
what
a
market
is
demanding
right
now
and
so
I
get
that,
but
I
think
the
fact
is
that
there
are
better
locations
for
that
kind
of
a
venue
and
and
I
think
you
know
putting
it
on.
The
waterfront
is
not
what
our
residents
want.
I
mean:
that's
that's
just
what
they
voiced
to
me
and
I
and
I
think
that's
what
referendum
did
not
articulate
that,
and
so
the
only
information
we
have
about
whether
or
not
they
really
want
that
there
is
anecdotal
from
circulating
and
what
they're
emailing
and
voicing
at
meetings.
You
know.
I
I
Experience
after
being
here
for
12
years
is
after
something
like
that
happens,
the
negative
voices
get
louder.
The
the
voices
we're
hearing
in
against
what
we're
trying
to
do.
Our
part
of
that
30%.
This
is
there
they're
still
trying
to
sway,
but
because
the
70
percent
of
the
people,
that
said
voted
to
say,
do
it
I'm
hearing
from
a
lot
of
them
that
are
saying
what's
taking
so
long,
we
voted
for
it
now.
I
Let's
do
it
so,
but
you
know
I'm
not
up
here
doing
that
it's
the
squeaky
wheel
gets
gets
the
grease
and
the
problem
is
the
squeaky
wheel
is
coming
from
the
minority
that
did
not
win
the
election
win
that
election
and
that's
my
experience
over
12
years.
So,
while
they're
more
than
entitled
to
their
opinion,
they're
more
than
welcome
to
come,
speak
in
front
of
us,
give
us
their
opinions.
I
I
Know
our
waterfront
is
the
most
underutilized
peak
water,
public
waterfront
anywhere
on
the
west
coast
of
Florida,
and
we're
trying
to
change
that
and
the
the
playground
areas
and
and
everything
that
you
know
you're
breaking
it
into
thirds.
You
got
the
venue.
You've
got
the
two
playground
areas
or
to
two
other
park
areas.
I
Two-Thirds
of
it
are
gonna,
be
available
almost
all
the
time,
and
it's
gonna
be
much
easier
to
secure
the
northern
third
when
there
is
going
to
be
a
venue,
a
concert
or
an
activity
there.
But
it's
you
know
the
majority
of
the
days
of
the
vast
majority
of
days.
The
entire
park
is
going
to
be
accessible
and
have
the
amenities
that
the
general
public
has
expressed
us
that
they
want
to
see.
Seventy
five
point.
F
Know
can
I
just
say,
though,
but
this
is
what
they
voted
on.
It
is
to
allow
construction
and
maintenance
of
certain
improvements,
including
playgrounds,
water
features,
artwork,
a
boathouse,
marina
office,
restrooms,
surface
parking,
roadways,
plazas,
sidewalks
trails,
elevated
walkways,
boardwalks
benches,
picnic
tables,
water,
fountains,
litter,
receptacles
and
similar
amenities
to
support
active
and
passive
uses.
M
M
M
J
J
I
spent
my
high
school
life
of
my
my
college
life
in
the
theater
I
loved,
a
great
theater
stage,
so
I
support
that
and
the
necessary
room
for
artists
and
all
of
that
wonderful
I
used
to
go
to
the
Hollywood
Bowl
when
I
lived
in
LA
for
15
years.
Never
once
did
we
need
covering
and
it
gets
hot
and
it
does
rain
there
in
Southern
California,
not
as
torrential
is
here,
but
that
was
one
of
the
nice
features
of
it.
J
It
you'll
be:
we've
been
dragging
this
on
for
so
long
that
nothing's
ever
going
to
get
accomplished.
If
we
don't
start
working
on
it
now,
it
seems
I
am
greatly
happy,
as
you
brought
up
mr.
mayor
schools
being
able
to
use
it
for
graduation
theatre
companies
being
allowed
to
mount
productions
in
the
park.
I'd
love
to
see
high
schools
and
theater
companies
locally
and-
and
you
know,
traveling
come
in
and
stage
shows
in
the
park.
J
A
People
that
believe
that
you
know
a
two-thirds
one-third
in
coachmen
Park
and
folks.
We
need
an
economic
driver.
We
need
a
driver
in
downtown
if
we
want
to
diversify
and
grow.
I
want
this
to
be
a
destination
for
all
of
our
citizens,
but
you
know:
I
go
to
Chicago,
you
go
to
Millennium
Park.
By
the
way
they
have
an
amphitheater
adjacent
to
it.
It's
a
that
is
a
world-class
park.
C
A
It
is
a
destination,
both
residents
and
guests,
I.
Think
if
we
don't
do
that
with
coachman
Park
we're
losing
an
opportunity
and
again
I
am
NOT.
Talking
about
just
concerts,
I
think
there's
been
too
much
focus
on
that
I
think
there
are
so
many
other
things
that
can
be
programmed
in
the
amphitheater
area
that
will
service
people
all
the
time.
Don't
have
any
sound.
You
know
associated
with
it
and
I
think
that's
a
good
thing.
We
have
had
a
asphalt
lot
down
there,
as
mr.
Hamilton
said
just
an
underutilized
piece
of
land.
A
This
ought
to
be
a
gem
look
at
what
st.
Pete's
doing
with
the
beer.
St.
Pete
has
been
a
rockin
and
rollin
now
for
a
good
10
years
and
now
they've
created
this
whole
pure
area,
which
is
just
going
to
build
on
success.
We
have
success
with
the
marina.
We
have
success
with
the
capital
theater.
We
have
some
success,
that's
starting
on
Cleveland
Street
with
some
of
the
restaurants.
F
A
A
Mean
I
and
before
we
end
and
I
know,
we
have
to
end
shortly,
but
I
do
think
we
did
have
zoo
meetings
with
the
CNC
and
I
think
we
ought
to
talk
briefly
about
some
of
their
requests,
because
we
owe
that
to
them.
I
think
they
talked
more
about
programming
and
the
breadth
of
programming
that
they
want
in
the
park,
which
I
hope
that
we're
doing
our
own
programming
with
the
city
with
Parks
and
Recreation,
but
I
would
also
love
to
partner
with
other
organizations
that
will
do
programming.
So
it's
not
solely
on
our
shoulders.
A
A
C
A
Dog
runs
not
to
the
extent
that
we
have
a
crest
lake
park
and
I
raised.
The
issue
of
press
like
only
beat
about
three
miles
away,
but
they
were
talking
about
the
fact
that
there
aren't,
as
many
places
downtown
to
walk
dogs
and
most
of
waters
aren't,
for
instance,
use
a
City
Hall
for
the
time
being,
but
that
will
go
away
as
far
as
the
tennis
court
goes.
I
do
not
support
having
tennis
courts
down
on
our
waterfront
I
played
tennis
for
years
until
my
hips
and
knees
went
south
and
when
you're
playing
tennis
you're.
A
B
Yeah
and
I
agree
with
you
on
intense
course:
we've
got
great
tennis
facilities
elsewhere,
dog
park,
I
know
that
water
said
we're
talking
about
us,
demoing,
City
Hall
and
using
the
footprint
of
the
Old
City
Hall
fenced
in
for
a
dog
park.
Of
course,
that
never
happened
but
I'm
amenable
to
thinking
about
a
small
area
for
a
dog
park.
You
know
it
could
be
in
it
could
be
incorporated
into
the
park
somehow.
Okay,
the
other
thing
was
brought
up
to
me
or
concrete
tables
where
people
could
sit
down
play
cards.
B
B
A
A
B
Think
it'd
be
I,
don't
know
they
were
talking
about,
maybe
a
board
or
something
where
you
can
write
the
winners
of
card
games
and
stuff,
but
I
think
we're.
We
are
have
an
area
by
the
pavilion,
the
entry
pavilion
that
has
seating
there,
that
they
could
put
something
up
in
that
area,
but
I
know
that
the
the
other
concern
they'd,
like
the
movement,
the
moving
of
the
pivot,
the
sound
pavilion
out
of
the
way.
So
you
have
a
better
view.
I
think
we
think
that's
been
accomplished
so.
F
Be
in
favor
of
that
and
I
would
I
would
push
for
it
to
be
as
big
as
possible.
Not
not
a
tiny
little
rectangle,
I,
think
I'm,
a
dog
lover
too,
but
I
think
dog
areas
serve
not
only
the
people
who
have
pets
but
I
know
I
like
to
stand
around
and
watch
the
dogs
play.
I.
Think
it's
a
great
spot
to
get
people
to
meet
up
regularly
get
people
to
come
down
to
the
park.
If
you're
down
there,
you
don't
have
a
critter,
you
just
want
to
go
and
watch
them
so
I
I'm.
F
All
for
that
and
and
I
like
the
idea
of
you,
know:
basketball,
tennis,
those
things
are
low,
cost
sports.
They
don't
you
know
you're,
not
paying.
For
you
know
green
fees
or
anything
you
just
show
up
with
a
ball
and
and-
and
you
can
play
so
I
would
advocate
for
those
kinds
of
things
and
one
thing
I've
noticed
recently
with
kovat
and
going
through
coachmen
Park.
F
A
lot
is,
there,
are
a
number
of
it
looks
like
little
kids,
sports
teams
or
and
and
adults
who
are
running
up
that
hill
to
to
the
old
city
hall
and
stuff
for
exercise,
and
so,
even
if
we
had
wide
steps
where
people
can
run
steps,
you
know
athletes
run
steps
to
work
out.
I
think
something
like
that
is
cheap
and
low
maintenance
and
it
encouraged
people
to
sit
on
a
graduated
bluff
and
look
out
at
the
sunset.
L
Mayor
I'm
gonna
push
back
a
little
bit
on
the
on
the
dog
park,
because
our
experience
with
dog
parks
based
on
feedback
we've
gotten
from
dog
owners,
is
that
they
want
their
dog
park
to
be
designed
in
a
way
to
meet
the
needs
of
their
dogs.
And
so
when
you
start
talking
about,
like
you
said
well,
we
need
a
big
park.
Well
that
you're
probably
correct,
because
people
who
have
small
dogs
don't
want
they're
small
dogs
eat
now
by
big
dogs.
Big
dogs
want,
you
know,
I
mean.
L
So
we
really
need
to
talk
about
this
in
a
more
specific
way,
so
that
whatever
amenity
is
provided.
Everybody
owns
it
because,
right
now,
when
I'm
hearing
I
don't
think
it's
workable,
I
honestly,
don't
unless
we
decide
that
we're
gonna
make
some
trade-offs
on
what
kind
of
dogs
we're
gonna
accommodate
in
the
park
or,
if
we're
now
going
to
as
we
create
this
amenity,
we're
probably
talking
about
a
lot
more
space
than
what
we're
thinking
and
so
I.
So
I
as
council,
Boomer
Hamilton
says
I'm
just
throwing
that
out
there,
because
I've
got
some
concerns.
A
H
I
I
L
A
A
Actual
design
I
mean
I.
That
really
concerns
me
that
we
get
into
really
designing
the
park.
I
think
we
ought
to
rely
on
people
who've
designed
other
public
spaces
rather
than
ourselves
as
long
as
and
take
this
one
in
the
spirit
of
its
month
as
long
as
the
architects
don't
get
too
free
with
our
money,
because,
like
one
of
the
things
that
I
always
go
back
to
is
I
wish
on
the
streetscape
in
downtown,
we
hadn't
done
pavers.
A
Mr.
Chesney
talked
about
pavers
out
at
the
marina
and
it's
the
first
good
explanation
of
why
I
would
ever
want
to
use
pavers,
but
otherwise
I
think
beach
walks
a
better
example
of
using
colored
concrete.
It's
a
lot
easier
to
maintain,
but
some
of
the
sinking
that
goes
on
around
Maryna
that
made
sense
to
me
and
having
to
get
two
pipes
and
whatnot
I
liked
that
one
that
was
good
stuff.