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A
Ship
on
december,
2nd
by
a
vote
of
325
to
20
so
overwhelming
support
for
this
agreement.
The
agreement
is
a
three-year
agreement,
providing
for
a
three
percent
merit
increase,
plus
a
longevity
award
that
will
be
added
to
base
salary.
On
the
number
of
consecutive
years
that
the
cwa
member
has
been
employed.
A
A
A
All
of
our
pay
tables
have
been
updated
as
per
the
pspc
agreement
and
for
this
agreement-
and
we
also
did
add
language
that
we
will
make
sure
that
our
paid
plan
does
stay
current
with
whatever
minimum
wage
that
goes
into
effect
through
the
life
of
the
contract.
We
are
asking
for
retro
going
back
to
october
1st
and
the
cost.
The
total
cost
is
anticipated
to
be
4.4
million
funding
is
available
in
the
current
year
budget
and
future
budgets
will
include
the
contract
cost
and
the
proposed
budgets.
The
cwa
is
here
as
well.
C
C
Oh,
they
will
no
longer
count
okay
and
then
clarification
on
deleted
language,
placing
laid
off
employees
on
the
employment
eligibility
list
for
their
designated
job
classification
and
any
other
job
classification
of
a
lower
level.
They
are
qualified.
For
so
does
that
mean
that
if
they're
laid
off
that
that
they're
not
notified
or
they
can't
choose
a.
A
No,
no,
not
at
all,
so
it's
just
clarifying
that
only
people
that
are
demoted
based
on
not
through
something
of
their
own.
So,
for
example,
there
are
people
who
take
voluntary
demotions.
They
are
not
put
placed
on
that
list,
so
it's
clarifying
that
language
that
is
just
for
the
people
will
only
go
on
that
list
if
they
have
been
involuntarily
demoted
for
things
that
are
not
related
to
discipline.
C
And
then
each
paycheck,
if
someone
is
bilingual,
they
get
an
extra
25.
D
Yes,
cwa
would
like
to
make
a
small
comment.
We
would
like
to
thank
council
thank
upper
management,
thank
hr
for
the
time
and
effort
that
they
gave
working
with
us
to
achieve
and
come
to
the
point
that
we
are
now
with
this
contract
for
the
next
three
years.
It's
been
a
pleasure
to
work
with
jennifer
and
her
staff
and
achieving
this,
and
we
are
grateful
for
the
time
and
effort
that
you
all
have
put
into.
F
Good
morning,
mayor
council,
jim
hallios,
proxima
creation,
director
and
the
item
we
have
before
you
is
for
a
storage
shed
out
of
the
moccasin
lake
nature
park
when
the
renovation
was
originally
conducted
in
2018
2019,
the
storage
shed
facility
was
demolished,
along
with
the
the
back
office
area.
Subsequently,
with
the
remodel
we
had
hope
is
to
hope
to
repurpose
the
old
clevis
building
after
we
got
in
there
and
took
a
look
at
it
and
had
various
reports
from
engineers
and
our
construction
managers.
F
F
So
what
this
item
allows
us
to
do
is
to
install
a
shed
further
out,
where
I
don't
know,
if
you're
familiar
where
the
old,
the
windmill
is,
and
the
kind
of
that
old
area
that
used
to
be,
I
want
to
say,
we
had
a
solar
greenhouse
area
kind
of
out
there
low
that's
where
we're
going
to
be
putting
this
storage
shed.
So
that
way
that
staff
can
park
the
vehicles
in
there
and
equipment.
That's
needed
so
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
G
So
this
is,
this:
is
strictly
a
storage
shed
and
we're
tearing
down
some
bathrooms,
but
there's
there
are
other
restroom
facilities
out
there.
Existing.
F
F
G
E
A
proven
purchase
order
with
mk
construct,
constructors
inc
of
jacksonville
florida
per
itb
19-0035pr
in
the
amount
of
169
and
40
for
lighting,
the
tennis
courts
at
morningside
recreation,
complex
and
the
change
of
scope
of
the
morningside
recreation
center
project,
cip
315-93251,
to
include
the
lighting
of
tennis
courts
transfer,
one
hundred
and
thirty
one
thousand
six
hundred
and
fifty
one
dollars
and
ninety
nine
cents
from
retained
earnings
at
first
quarter
and
authorize
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
sign.
Mrs
again,.
F
F
This
relates
back
to
the
great
recession
and
when
those
morningside
tennis
courts
were
redone,
the
lights
were
taken
out
and
the
courts
were,
I
want
to
say,
put
down
from
either
five
or
six
down
to
the
current
number,
four
that
we
have
out
there
and
then,
subsequent
with
that,
we
had
went
through
a
corporate
decision
of
only
lighting,
two
satellite
tennis
courts
in
the
city
due
to
use
and
the
morningside
recreation
center
being
back
open
and
the
subsequent
having
staff
on
site
and
more
of
an
active
recreation
center.
F
The
parks
rec
board
made
a
recommendation.
They
wanted
us
to
look
at
any
type
of
capital
savings
that
we
had
from
the
construction
of
the
morningside
complex
to
use
for
the
lighting
project.
Staff
came
back
in
october
of
2019
to
inform
council
that
we
did
not
have
any
subsequent
savings.
So
we
brought
this
item
before
you.
We
did
actually
once
all
the
closeouts
were
done,
did
recognize
savings.
I
want
to
say
in
the
amount
of
I
want
to
say,
31
thousand
dollars.
F
No
it's
on
to
a
certain
time
we
had
done
that
years
ago,
where
people
put
coins
in
it
was
a
meter
on
a
dial
and
just
the
amount
of.
F
F
F
I
don't
believe
so.
I
think,
due
to
the
cost
difference
I'll
need
to
look
at
that
to
get
back
to
you,
but
we
did
price
that
out
with
the
lights
that
were
done
here
and
also
the
lights
that
were
done
at
mcmullen,
because
we
needed
to
have
a
certain
candle
size
out
there.
So
that
would
we'll
double
check
on
that
I'll
get
back.
But.
G
The
in
the
direction
of
the
lighting
is
centered
on
the
courts
themselves,
so
it
doesn't
illuminate
the
neighbors
backyards.
C
So
morningside
rec
center
out
there,
so
I
was
out
there
this
weekend
with
their
holiday
celebration,
which
was
fun
so
they
have
lit
enclosed
basketball
courts.
They
have
a
tennis
complex,
they
have
a
heated
pool
and
now
they
would
like
seven
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
lit
tennis
courts,
that's
correct,
okay
and
then
I'm
thinking
you
know
how
many
hours
would
those
lights
be
on.
So
I
don't
know:
do
you
probably
close
the
the
complex
at
10
at
night
and
then
during
the
summer?
It's
light
pretty
late
at
you
know
up
to
8
30.
C
I
think
right
and
so
we'd
have
these
lights
on
certain
times
of
the
year
more
than
others,
7
000
seems
like
a
whole
lot
of
money.
I
don't
you
know,
for
I
don't
for
how
many
hours
of
of
use-
and
you
know
I
just-
I
just
think
that
I
you
know-
I
just
wonder
about
a
whole
bunch
of
resources
going
into
that
part
of
the
city
that
neighborhood
versus
some
others.
C
But
I
I
know
I
play
tennis
a
little
bit
and
up
in
the
midwest
when
we
wanted
to
play
in
the
winter
we
had
to.
I
couldn't
afford
paying
a
chunk
of
money
for
lights,
for
an
indoor
thing,
because
the
lights
were
real
expensive,
but
is
there
a
big
desire,
a
big
need?
People
really
use
those
courts
and
want
to
have
lit
courts
at
night
between.
You
know
I
guess
in
the
winter
here
it
would
be
between
five
five
and
ten,
if
they're
open
until
ten.
F
Yeah
there
was
a
big
desire
for
having
those
courts
re-lit.
You
know
the
question
was
raised
that
mcmullen
is
right
up
the
street,
you
know,
and
that
is
a
lit
facility,
but
at
the
times
in
the
brackets
of
time
that
you're
looking
at
to
have
to
play
tennis,
they
are
full
at
this
at
that
time.
So
there
is
not
an
over
abundance
of
lit
courts
there.
E
Mr
horn,
yes,
I'd
just
like
to
respond
to
councilmember
beckman.
There
are
times
when
all
of
our
neighborhoods
that
have
rec
centers,
where
they
will
advocate
for
certain
levels
of
service
morningside
is
no
different.
That's
why
the
previous
council,
you
know,
had
made
a
series
of
decisions
in
response
to
the
neighborhood
leaders
and
the
neighborhood
residents
advocacy.
E
So
it's
difficult
at
times
for
us
to
respond
to
your
questions
when
we
really
are
responding
consistently
over
time.
You
know
to
how
the
council
wanted
to
address
this,
so
we
wouldn't
bring
this
forward
unless
we
felt
it
it
achieved.
You
know,
council
direction
and
goals,
and-
and
so
I
I
you
know
to
answer
your
question-
yes,
we
think
it's
appropriate
and
that's
why
we're
recommending
it
now.
E
E
Well,
we
I
mean,
let's,
if
we
go
back
historically,
you
know
the
city,
commission
and
I
will
go
to
infor
pinellas
2.
I
think
they
created
a
list
where
their
goal
was
to
raise
the
level
of
quality
of
life
throughout
the
city
all
the
areas.
So
there
is
nothing
inconsistent
about
this,
also
you're
going
to
get
requests
from
all
over
the
city
and
historically,
the
council
has
tried
to
accommodate
them.
Unless
there
was
some
financial
issue
that
they
felt
like
they
just
couldn't.
Support.
G
I
also
recall
part
of
this
agenda
item
part
part
of
the
discussion
we
had
previous
council
was
with
imagine
clearwater
we're
going
to
be
removing
lighted
tennis
courts
from
the
bay
front.
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
by
putting
these
lights
out
of
morningside
work
we're
allowing
creating
tennis
court.
You
know
keeping
the
number
of
courts
available
in
the
evenings
somewhere
somewhere,
and
this
seemed
like
a
a
a
reasonable
alternative
to
us.
G
So
that's
that
I
recall
having
that
discussion
and
I
think
council
member
albritton
was
part
of
that
discussion
as
well,
but
it
was
you
know
the
fact
that
we're
losing
going
to
be
losing
quartz
off
the
bay
front
because
of
imagine
clear
water.
Putting
these
lights
in
morningside
made
pretty
good
sense.
F
B
F
Jim
alios
parks,
recreation
director.
The
item
that
we
have
before
you
relates
to
the
addition
of
a
park
service,
foreman
and
two
park
service
technicians
for
a
total
of
three
staff
out
at
crestlake
park.
When
council
approved
the
construction
of
crestlake
park
back
in
february
of
2020
due
to
the
enhanced
features
of
the
park
and
the
desire
to
have
it
as
more
of
a
regional
park
instead
of
a
neighborhood
park.
F
There's
a
spray
park
and
a
lot
of
different
elements
in
that
park
that
we
usually
do
not
have,
and
when
you
couple
that,
with
the
landscaping
that's
been
enhanced,
adding
a
sprinkler
system
to
where
we
didn't
have
it
before
in
large
patches
of
this
park,
then
we're
going
to
it's
going
to
require
a
lot
more
maintenance
and
a
higher
level
of
maintenance,
and
the
hope
is
that
we'll
be
able
to.
You
know,
combine
this
set
of
staff
here
with
imagine
clearwater
when
that
comes
online.
C
F
Yes,
park
hours
per
ordinance
are
six
a.m
to
nine
pm.
Again
we
will,
you
know,
look
to
have
it
staffed
that
entire
time,
but
again
that'll.
We
don't
plan
on
having
the
restrooms
open
until
nine
pm.
That
would
probably
be
a
dawn
to
dusk
endeavor.
So
again,
based
on
you
know,
use
will
dictate
how
we
allocate
those
staff
hours,
but
that
is
correct
for
a
minimum
of
eight
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week,
there
will
be
a
parks
and
rec
employee
on
site.
B
I
just
can't
miss
the
opportunity
to
point
out
that
this
proves
that
parks
are
in
fact
not
free.
Not
only
are
they
costly
to
build
but
they're
costly
to
maintain.
So
this
is
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars
a
year.
Once
we
get
to
a
full
fiscal
year.
K
Thank
you.
My
name
is
jeremy
brown,
I'm
engineering
manager
for
utilities,
just
a
quick
refresher
on
this
project.
We
have
a
forest
man
that
runs
along
countryside
boulevard.
It's
had
two
breaks
recently
and
so
this
project
was
to
determine
whether
we
want
to
replace
the
entire
line
or
just
a
couple
of
areas,
and
so
we've
done
an
initial
evaluation
that
identified
two
hydrogen
sulfide
gas
pockets
and
over
time.
Those
gas
sprockets
is
what
helps
break
down
the
pipes
and
they
end
up
breaking.
So
this
supplemental
work.
K
K
It's
just
a
part
of
the
the
the
makeup
of
wastewater
basically
just
gets
in
there
and
it
comes
out
of
solution.
Basically
and
then
the
interesting
part
is
it's
not
the
gas.
It's
not
the
hydrogen
sulfide
that
actually
do
break
down
the
pipe
that
there's
bacteria
that
eat
the
hydrogen
sulfide
and
then
they
excrete
acid
and
that's
what
works
on
the
pipes
pretty
interesting.
E
Approve
supplemental
work,
order
to
engineer
record
stantec,
consulting
services
of
tampa
florida
for
lift
station
16
in
the
amount
of
for
248
966,
increasing
the
work
order
from
hundred
and
dollars
to
four
hundred
and
forty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
and
seventy
four
dollars
and
authorize
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
saying
mr
brown
again.
Jeremy.
K
Brown
engineering
manager
for
utilities
the
station
16,
is
located
towards
the
western
end
of
peer
street.
That's
immediately
south
of
the
proposed
imagine
clearwater
site.
We
have
another
utilities
project
that
is
developing
a
master
plan
for
the
wastewater
collection
system
and
that
project
identified
the
need
to
increase
the
capacity
of
this
the
station.
So
then
we
had
stantec
who's.
K
The
engineer
for
this
project
do
an
analysis
to
see
if
they
could
use
the
existing
wet
well
and
just
replace
the
pumps
or
if
we
had
to
do
a
new
new
new
lift
station
and
a
new
wet
well
rather,
and
they
identify
that.
Yes,
we
do
need
a
new
wet
well,
and
so
this
supplemental
before
you
today
is
for
the
additional
effort
to
do
a
new
wet
well,
instead
of
just
renewing
and
replacing
the
existing
the
station,
I'm
happy
to
respond
to
any
questions.
J
Yeah,
this
lift
station
is
that,
on
the
other,
it's
on
the
other
side
of
pierce
is
it
up
next
to
the
bridge?
Is
that
where
it
is
exactly
that's
exactly
what
it
is
okay,
so
I
think
I
saw
them
last
year,
looking
at
all
that
it
was
kind
of
interesting
because
it
looked
like
there
was
some
kind
of
a
building
or
something
underground
near
the
the
old
school
there.
K
I'm
not
sure
about
a
building
this
particular
lift
station.
I
mean
these
wet
wells.
They
they
go,
maybe
20
feet
down
into
the
ground.
I
guess
I'm
not
sure
what
you're
referring
to
in
terms
of
the
building,
nor.
D
J
K
Yeah,
this
is
the
way
it's
located.
Now
is
the
new
location
that
you're
talking
about?
Oh
okay,
thank.
G
G
K
I
mean
they'll
certainly
have
to
de-water,
and
the
existing
one
is
20
feet
down,
so
the
new
one
will
go
at
least
that
deep,
but
they
are
made
of
concrete
right
and
then
we
we
line
the
concrete
with
different
materials.
Those
materials
may
break
down
over
time,
but
then
we
go
back
in
we
line
it
again.
B
E
Thank
you.
8.3
approved
supplemental
work
order,
2
to
engineer
of
record
cardinal
inc
in
the
amount
of
73
600
to
complete
archaeological
excavation
of
the
north
greenwood
cemetery,
increasing
the
work
order
from
sixty
thousand
eight
hundred
and
forty
six
dollars
to
a
hundred
thirty
four
thousand
four
hundred
and
forty
six
dollars
and
authorize
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
saying
mr
desicco.
L
The
objective
of
this
stage
is
to
verify
order
to
ground
truth,
gpr
findings
that
were
previously
completed
for
the
former
site.
L
L
L
M
N
Morning,
council,
tom
owning
engineering
department,
so
this
plot
will
combine
two
older
subdivisions
plotted
in
the
20s,
together
with
a
portion
of
vacated
east
avenue
and
also
a
railroad
spur
previously
bought
by
the
gas
department,
there's
also
an
old
railroad
spur
that
runs
up
through
the
a
portion
of
that
property
that
was
abandoned
by
csx
or
the
previous
railroad
that
will
now
be
dissolved
by
virtue
of
this
plaque.
N
N
Consent
yeah,
yes,
all
right!
Well,
if
the
vice
mayor
would
like,
I
can
answer
that
question
about
that
bunker
out
there
oh
appreciation
that
was
part
of
the
part
of
that
school,
which
previously
was
an
office
building
and
it
housed
a
like
a
generators
and
mechanical
room
for
to
serve
to
provide
power
to
that
structure.
Okay,
it
was
it
was.
It
was
associated
to
the
calvary
previous
before
calvary
bought
it.
It
was
there.
N
J
K
Excuse
me,
jeremy
brown,
engineering
manager
for
utilities,
pinellas
county
is
constructing
stormwater
improvements
along
sunset
point
road
from
douglas
avenue
to
kings
highway
during
construction.
There
are
some
unknown
conflicts,
namely
a
16-inch
water
main
and
a
proposed
storm
water
box
culvert.
That
was
at
a
stream
crossing.
The
item
before
you
today
is
for
the
additional.
E
H
Good
morning
robert
burzak
real
estate
service
coordinator,
the
utility
easement,
will
allow
the
city
rights
for
construction,
installation
and
maintenance
of
city
facilities
on
the
site.
H
E
Approve
the
annexation,
initial
future
land
use
map,
designation
of
residential
urban
and
initial
zoning
atlas,
designation
of
low
medium
density,
residential
district,
four
1266
sadiva,
circled
north
and
and
passed
the
appropriate
ordinances
on
first
reading.
Mr
gabar.
O
Senior
planner,
this
voluntary
annexation
petition
involves
a
0.16
acre
property
consisting
of
one
parcel
of
land
occupied
by
the
single
family
dwelling.
The
applicant
is
requesting
annexation
in
order
to
receive
sanitary,
seawater
and
solid
waste
service
from
the
city,
the
property
located
within
an
enclave
and
is
continuous
to
existing
city
boundaries
on
all
sites.
Annexation
of
the
property
of
the
property
will
eliminate
an
enclave.
It
is
proposed
that
the
property
be
assigned
a
future
unused
map,
designation
of
residential
urban
and
sunny
natural
designation
or
low
medium
density,
residency.
E
P
Thank
you,
kyle
brotherton
planning
and
development.
So
this
voluntary
annexation
petition
involves
0.067
acres
of
property,
consisting
of
a
portion
of
one
parcel
of
land
which
is
currently
occupied
by
a
vacant.
Commercial
building
the
applicant
is
requesting
annexation
in
order
to
bring
the
entire
property
into
the
city's
jurisdiction,
which
will
allow
for
a
unified
site
plan.
The
property
is
continuously
city
limits
on
all
sides
and
will
eliminate
an
enclave
once
annexed.
We
have
to
answer
any
questions.
Q
Q
This
item
is
for
the
maintenance
memorandum
of
agreement
required
by
fdot,
which
outlines
the
city's
maintenance
requirements
related
to
that
signage,
including
maintaining
the
signage,
the
led
lighting
and
the
fencing
that's
directly
in
support
of
the
signs.
The
moa
also
states
that
the
city
agrees
to
sweep
and
remove
litter
from
the
bridge
as
needed
and
then
outlines
the
department's
specific
responsibilities.
G
Q
G
My
question
now
becomes
as
far
as
scheduling-
and
you
know,
traffic
maintenance
is
is
most
of
that
work
going
to
be
done
at
night
versus
during
the
day,
because
it's
going
to
that
would
require
lane
closures
and
everything
else
on
19
right.
There.
G
B
R
R
Dan
merrigan,
as
I've
shared
with
the
council,
this
is
a
correction
for
some
decisions
that
we
made
in
a
number
of
areas.
We
have
routine
upgrades
that
departments
do
we
made
a
very
large
investment
at
the
early
part
of
the
pandemic
to
outfit
more
of
our
employees
with
mobile
devices
and
ultimately
cameras,
so
they
could
do
more
remote
meetings
and
there's
some
cleanup
from
some
other
issues
with
billing
that
occurred
over
the
last
number
of
leases,
so
in
full
disclosure.
I
have
those
numbers.
R
The
numbers
that
are
on
the
agenda
item
are
more
specific
after
we've
done
some
some
detailed
analysis,
but
this
will
take
us
through
the.
I
believe,
the
24
and
finish
out
this
last
lease
cycle.
S
One
state
legislative
agenda
council
members
in
your
gender
packs.
I
have
the
list
of
items
that
the
staff
has
identified
for
the
next
legislative
session.
That
does
not
mean
it's
complete.
As
we
all
know,
there
are
items
that
can
come
up
during
session
and
as
those
items
come
up,
I
will
bring
those
and
discuss
with
you.
After
discussing
it
with
the
with.
T
J
J
It
looked
to
me
that
preemption
and
local
government's
ability
to
regulate
airbnb
rentals
is
not
related
to
the
repeal
state
and
preemption
of
vacation,
real
properties.
S
J
Well,
I
was,
and
I'm
glad
to
see,
we've
got
a
couple
of
things
in
here
on
the
that
may
solve
some
of
the
mooring
issues.
We've
got.
S
I'll
go
ahead
and
discuss
that,
so
we
did,
after
speaking,
as
we
did
find
out
that
there
is
a
bill
that
is
being
filed
by
the
file
of
the
fish
and
wildlife
commission.
So
I
did
add,
authorize
the
fish
and
wildlife
commission
to
establish
a
derelict
vessel
for
the
prevention
program
and
allow
law
enforcement
to
relocate
vessels
by
risk
of
becoming
a
public
nuisance.
As
well
as
designating
all
water
statistic
to
be
no
discharge
zones
and
kind
of
like
individuals
who
discharge
suicide
or
untreated
from
any.
M
M
J
C
Yeah,
so
there
were
a
couple
things.
You
know
that
I
think
we
you
call
for
expanded
emphasis
on
mental
health.
I
think
right.
I'm
increasing.
C
S
I
believe,
under
issues
to
support,
I
can
find
it.
S
There
is
legislation
there
was
legislation
filed
last
year
and
I
believe
it
has
been
filed
this
year
and
to
establish
a
framework,
although
state
water
infrastructure,
but
there's
also
sustainability,
utility
practices
as
well,
and
I
think
that
topic
might
encompass
there.
But
if
you
want
me
to
make
a
separate
statement,
I
can
okay.
C
S
They
will
be
coming
to
the
council
meeting
and
they
will
present
highlights
for
the
upcoming
session
and
also
report
on
their
efforts
regarding
the
mooring
situation.
So
I
have
they
had.
They
had
been
working
with
the
florida
fish
and
wildlife
commission.
So
that's
why
I
added
the
two
last
bullets
under
issues
to
support,
because
the
legislation
that
they're
looking
to
enact
does
benefit
us
in
that
regard.
B
S
Us
reached
out
to
staff
regarding
our
any
funding
requests,
whether
it
be
grants
or
through
the
legislative
appropriation
request,
because
those
have
changed
since
the
last
time
you
were
on
council,
they
are,
you
do
still
have
to
submit
a
grants,
application
for
them,
but
I
have
not
received
any
feedback
so
at
this
point,
I'm
not
sure
we're
ready
for
them.
One
of
the
issues
right
now
with
the
funding
request
is
that
they
have
to
be
ready.
So
you
can't
ask
for
funding
for
design
or
funding
for
a
proposal.
S
B
And
I
wasn't
on
council
so
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
believe
that
the
state
has
mandated
that
individuals
can
use
their
open
carry
into
public
parks.
Is
that
still
intact?
I
believe
I'll
have
to
double.
B
B
Is
a
real
problem
with
a
lot
of
the
promoters
for
concerts,
they
have
metal
detectors
and
they
don't
want
people
carrying
in
firearms
and
with
imagine
clear
water
being
what
it
is.
E
It
america
asked
a
question:
have
you
anybody
had
any
conversation
with
our
pinellas
county
delegation
on
this?
Not
on
that
issue.
B
It
won't
be
one
that
they,
you
know,
welcome
a
carve
out
for
this
specific
instance,
but
I
know
for
a
fact:
live
nation
will
not
do
a
concert
if
there's
open
carry
is
allowed,
so
we
may
be
eliminating
some
of
the
people
that
we're
working
with
just
because
of
the
state
law.
S
G
J
G
T
Request
request
authority
for
settle
to
settle
the
case
of
clearwater
versus
wiley
at
all
case
number
18-6639-cm.
Mr
fuino
thank.
U
U
C
I'm
fine
with
this.
The
only
suggestion
I
would
have
or
or
information
that
I
think
is
pertinent
is
when
we
attach
this
kind
of
a
thing
to
the
agenda
that,
if
she's
going
if
the
owner
is
going
to
settle
for
20
000,
I'd
like
to
know
what,
if
we
could
articulate
what
the
accrued
liens
were,
so
that
people
just
know
we're
going
from.
C
E
Married
council
mayor
and
I
met
with
an
individual
who
was
advocating
that
we
find
a
place
in
plum
water
to
dock
a
u.s
coast
guard
cutter
that
is
being
decommissioned
at
some
point
in
the
future.
E
So
I've
asked
ed
chesney
to
come
forward
and
and
describe
essentially
what
was
presented
to
us
and
kind
of
give
you
a
status
of
where,
where
we
are
we're
going
to
have
to
spend
a
lot
more
than
eight
hours
sorting
this
out.
So
that's.
Why
he's
here.
V
At
chesney
marine
in
aviation,
I
looked
at
the
proposal
and
the
proposed
locations.
Most
of
them
were
downtown
coachman
park,
some
of
the
boat
ramp
and
the
problem
there
is.
We
don't
have
the
depth
for
something
this
big
and
we
have
the
the
marina
that
is
downtown
is
right
up
to
the
intercoastal
right-of-way.
So,
while
the
channel
is
a
little
bit
west
of
that
right-of-way,
we
can't
really
encroach
into
that
right-of-way.
If
we
were
to
put
this
thing
downtown
seminole,
it
gets
even
shallower
in
that
area.
V
So
looking
around
for
their
needs,
they
were
looking
for
a
hundred
plus
feet
of
open
sea
wall,
and
we
just
don't
have
that
anywhere
in
the
city.
The
only
sea
wall
in
the
city
that
we
do
own
with
that
kind
of
footage
is
along
sand.
Key.
The
city
owns
that
sea
wall
all
the
way
from
around
the
bridge
to
the
jetty,
and
we
share
that
sea
wall
with
pinellas
county.
They
use
it
for
loading
and
unloading
for
their
reef
programs
for
beach
renourishment.
V
Actually,
the
county
uses
it
more
than
we
do.
We
have
a
small
yard
there,
but
the
water
depths
are
there
and
there
would
be
a
possibility
with
some
studying
of
the
area,
how
we
could
moor
something
there.
It's
outside
of
the
federal
channel,
it's
pretty
wide
in
there
and
I
talked
to
pinellas
county
they've
they're,
aware
of
the
situation
now,
they've
asked
me
to
go
further
up
the
up
the
ladder
I
went
to
water
nav.
V
J
V
Has
a
six
and
a
half
foot
draft,
so
we
need
to
have
at
least
that
amount
of
water
at
all
times
now.
If
this
thing
is
some
way,
it'll
be
fixed
if
it's
a
permanent
mooring,
so
we'll
have
to
do
some
sort
of
a
bulkhead,
for
you
know,
projection
out
to
get
this
thing
to
more,
because
I
I
don't
think
they
want
it.
V
B
I
mean
the
reason
that
I
was
interested
in
it
and
I've
known
the
individual
that
has
now
got
a
501c3.
We
are
the
13th
coast
guard
city
in
the
united
states.
The
adac
has
a
pretty
storied
history.
B
B
Unfortunately,
there's
no
place
to
put
it
in
coachman
park
to
draw
people
to
downtown,
but
there
is
interest
in
some
of
the
other
cities.
I
understand
that
tarpon
and
dunedin
are
also
interested,
as
is
saint
pete,
but
you
know
the
gentleman
that's
kind
of
spearheading.
This
actually
served
on
the
adac
over
in
the
middle
east
and
is
originally
from
clearwater
and
would
like
to
see
it
here
more
than
anywhere
else.
B
Congressman
bilarakis
and
christ
are
both
in
support
of
bringing
it
home,
but
we
need
to
find
a
home
and
for
the
coast
guard
it
is
going
to
be
retired
in
july,
but
for
that
to
occur
they
have
to
have
a
letter
of
support
from
some
municipality
that
is
willing
to
house.
It.
G
I
Yeah,
I
I
think
it's
worth
doing:
it's
a
shame
that
it
can't
fit
donna
coachman
if
we
can
get
it
to
sand
key
that'd
be
great.
V
V
G
And
at
that
location
it
basically
becomes
part
of
the
san
key
part.
I
mean
if
you're
in
c
key
park,
you
would
have
access
to
I
mean:
are
we
a
lot?
Would
this
be
something
that
people
would
be
allowed
to
board
and
and
observe
after
once?
It's
that's
the
intent
yeah
park
to
be
able
to
do
this.
V
And,
interestingly
enough,
the
city
owns
50
feet
off
of
that
sea
wall
so
that
whole
all
along
the
park.
There's
50
feet
that
the
city
does
own
from
the
bridge
to
the
jetty,
so
it
would
have
to
be
a
partnership
because
you'd
be
on
city
property
to
enter
the
boat
but
to
get
to
the
boat.
You'd
have
to
go
through
the
park.
V
G
Well,
and
with
this,
would
this
require
a
cooperation
or
a
letter
of
cooperation
or
a
letter
of.
B
G
B
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
chesney.
All
right
folks
we're
at
half
past
10.
I
have
a
feeling.
13.2
might
take
a
minute
or
two
do
you
want
to
take
a
quick
break
or
do
you
want
to.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
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W
Mayor
council,
michael
delk
assistant
city
manager,
I
want
to
to
go
through
with
you
the
our
draft
request
for
proposals
and
cover
some
points
with
you.
We,
as
you
recall
from
our
one-on-ones,
we
tried
to
go
over
and
give
you
a
brief
background.
Also
late.
On
friday,
I
sent
out
an
email
hoping
to
assist
you
a
little
bit
further
in
terms
of
some
of
the
specific
questions
that
we
need
to
make
sure
we
get
answered
today.
W
So,
what
I'm
going
to
do
well
I'll,
follow
your
lead
in
terms
if
you've
got
any
specific
direction
on
mayor
on
how
you
want
to
go
through
this.
But
I
have
a
powerpoint
prepared
that
we
can
go
through
and
kind
of
give
us
a
little
bit
of
the
refresher
on
the
background,
get
us
up
to
speed
on
what
we're
proposing
for
the
park
properties
and
then
we'll
go
from
there
to
some
specific
points
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
cover
with
you
this
morning.
If
that's
all
right,
so
we'll
go.
W
The
rfp
outline
summary
of
the
offering
background
information
generally
description
of
downtown
project
goals,
which
is
an
area
that
we
pointed
out
to
you.
We,
I
think
we're
these
are
pretty
self-evident,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
we
need
to
be
in
alignment
with
you
on
the
project,
goals,
site
details
and
we'll
go
through
that
here
in
terms
of
what
we're
expecting
to
see
or
the
opportunities
that
we
see
in
the
various
pro
parcels,
the
regulatory
framework.
W
Really,
this
is
more
background
for
any
respondents
that
may
have
interest
in
the
rfp
submission
requirements.
This
is
very
important.
We
have
a
very
clear
and
definitive
set
of
what
we
expect
to
have
in
the
submission
requirements.
W
Those
are
important
to
us
in
order
to
be
able
to
make
a
consistent
and
fair
evaluation
of
whatever
proposals
that
we
get.
We
want
them
to
be
relatively
consistent
in
terms
of
what
they
provide
us
for
the
review,
the
evaluation
criteria.
I
think
we
need
to
pay
particular
attention
to
this
when
we
get
a
little
further
along,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
you
all
are
comfortable
with
the
evaluation
criteria
and
then
a
selection
schedule
which
we
need
to
work
out.
W
What
we,
basically
to
summarize
those
the
market,
has
a
certain
level
of
support
for
apartments.
Condos
limited
retail
market
tends
to
be
from
what
we
are
told,
very
weak
on
hotel
and
office.
Space
doesn't
mean
that
we
don't
want
those
two.
Those
things,
but
it
may
mean
that
it's
going
to
impact
our
necessary
level
of
investment
in
order
to
to
make
them
happen.
W
For
that
reason,
developers
may
need
assistance
with
regard
to
increased
density
and
far,
and
this
may
be
as
much
for
bankability
as
actual
development
opportunity.
Frankly,
we've
allowed
some
additional
height
latitude
on
the
site.
Next
to
the
harbor
view,
we
don't
want
to
overwhelm
that
site,
but
we
allow
we're
recommending
or
encouraging
a
little
bit
additional
flexibility
for
their
consideration,
and
also
we
may
an
opportunity
for
assisting
in
parking
is
a
good
private,
public-private
partnership
opportunity
for
us
some
of
the
minimum
requirements.
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We
would
look
for
people
to
comply
with
the
downtown
design
guidelines,
which
really.
I
would
just
summarize
that
by
saying
this
isn't
an
urban
environment.
It's
an
urban
downtown,
that's
kind
of
what
we're
pursuing
to
develop.
So
we
want
an
urban
development
pattern
in
the
core
of
our
community
and
a
financial
offer
in
the
form
of
fee,
simple
purchase
or
ground
lease.
Basically,
how
does
the
business
structure
the
deal?
Look
to
a
proposer?
W
This
is
revisiting
from
our
earlier
discussion.
This
fall
just
to
quickly
re-summarize
the
development
assumptions
for
the
various
parcels
parcel
one
mixed
use,
residential
over
retail
overnight
accommodation
is
an
alternative
in
this
location,
sit
down,
restaurants,
important
for
our
plaza
entryway,
mass
and
scale
sensitive,
the
library
and
design
and
height.
W
We
don't
want
to
overwhelm
the
library,
but,
as
I
mentioned
to
you
earlier,
I
think
we
at
this
stage
can
allow
some
more
latitude
for
that
design
more
than
where
we
started
initially
a
couple
of
years
ago,
and
then,
lastly,
again,
this
is
a
public
private
partnership
opportunity
for
parking,
the
city
hall
site
once
again,
mixed
use
potential
for
residential
over
parking
overnight
accommodation,
an
acceptable
alternative
retail
is
optional.
The
further
we
get
away
from
cleveland-
I
think
you
know
kind
of
the
consensus-
is
a
little
weaker
retail
market.
W
Given
that
we
don't
have
a
terribly
strong
retail
market
to
begin
with
cultural
components,
we're
leaving
that
in
the
rfp,
although
the
rfp
has
been
adjusted
to
show
the
or
to
not
discuss
the
reuse
of
the
city
hall
building,
since
you
all
have
directed
that
to
be
investigated
for
tearing
down,
but
we
are
leaving
it
open
as
a
cultural
opportunity
on
that
site.
If
you,
unless
you
have
that,
I
want
to
take
that
out.
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Right
now,
we're
in
the
process
of
obtaining
additional
appraisals
for
the
three
sites,
updating
those
those
appraisals
the
arc.
The
rfp
will
request
that
developers
factor
in
paying
fair
market
value,
but
if
they
do
not
want
to,
they
need
to
say
why
and
what
they
what
they
do
will
be
able
to
offer
for
the
properties.
W
The
city's
planning
and
development
department
is
currently
processing
commencing
work
on
some
comprehensive
plan
updates
that
will
include
actually
these
changes
in
density
and
intensity.
Obviously,
ultimately
that
is
subject
to
your
approval
and
adoption
by
ordinance,
so
that
is
in
process
cr
funding.
The
cra
has
determined
that
they
can
offer
between
2.5
and
5
million
dollars,
total
over
four
years
for
rental,
housing
and
other
public
amenities.
W
The
parking
fund
is
available
for
up
to
25
thousand
dollars
per
space
for
up
to
one
hundred
spaces
or
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
for
public
use.
The
developer
would
propose
an
operations
plan
for
managing
the
parking
that
is
consistent
with
how
we've
approached
some
public
private
partnerships
for
parking
in
the
past,
the
city,
support
for
streetscape
improvements
and
permit
and
impact
fees,
general
fund
and
enterprise
funds.
W
We
have
offered
incentives
for
streetscape
in
the
past.
This
is
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
for
a
partnership,
opportunity,
incentives
next
page
up
to
five
bonus
points
awarded
for
each
category,
cultural
amenities
available
to
the
public,
including
performance,
spaces,
galleries,
movie,
theaters
museums,
art
center,
etc.
W
This
is
to
encourage
the
consideration
of
possible
civic
component
to
our
park,
building
out
portions
of
the
park
that
are
not
currently
included,
for
example,
the
south
bluff
walk.
There
may
be
some
other
ad
backs
that
we've
discussed
a
little
bit.
That
would
be
an
opportunity
as
well
to
meet
well
or
lead
silver
certification
standards
or
other
green
building
standards,
again
an
opportunity
for
incentive
in
the
selection
process
and
providing
more
than
200
rental
units
across
the
three
sites
to
try
to
encourage
the
development
as
many
rooftops
downtown
as
possible.
W
Lastly,
we
are
suggesting
things
for
various
reasons:
limited
to
market
or
economic
impact,
that
we
recommend
not
providing.
Subsidies,
for
those
include
hotels.
Excuse
me
parking
that
is
not
required
by
zoning,
so
this
is,
if
somebody
has
a
minimum
parking
requirement
at
1.5
spaces
per
per
unit.
For
example,
we
would
not
subsidize
going
from
1.5
to
two
spaces
per
unit,
so
that's
what
that
means
hotels.
W
We
may
want
to
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
further.
If,
if
you
all
want
to
be
more
demonstrative
in
terms
of
incentivizing,
those
who
may
have
a
hotel
as
part
of
their
concept,
office
uses
and
market
rate
condos,
what
I
would
say
about
office
is
that
along
the
three
bluff
properties
office
really
is
antithetical
to
our
whole
purpose.
W
For
this
project,
which
is
really
more
of
a
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activation,
so
much
prefer
hotels,
residential
use
that
sort
of
thing
right
along
the
bluff
properties
rather
than
office,
which
you
know
typically
and
to
to
a
large
extent,
goes
dark
at
you
know
five
or
six
o'clock
and
then
doesn't
have
any
any
inherent
activity
for
the
most
part
through
the
evening
till
the
next
day.
So
that
is
our
recommendation.
With
that
evaluation
scoring
once
an
applicant
meets
the
minimum
requirements,
the
proposal
will
be
scored.
W
This
is
a
two-step
process
as
we're
proposing
or
suggesting
it
step.
One
non-financial
criteria,
which
includes
eligible
bonus
points
applicant,
must
receive
a
minimum
75
points
out
of
120
points.
To
move
to
step
two
step.
Two
is
scoring
for
financial
criteria,
financial
feasibility
and
financial
offer
to
the
city
for
a
maximum
of
100
points.
W
The
staff
selection
committee
will
review
and
score
all
proposals.
Hrna
will
assist
in
reviewing
the
proposals,
paying
special
attention
to
the
financial
feasibility
portion
of
the
the
project,
and
then
we
have
a
scoring
criteria.
W
There
are
two
timelines
to
consider
the
rfp
issuance
in
time
to
create
a
development
agreement,
the
time
to
place
a
referendum
question
on
the
ballot
we,
the
timeline
of
the
referendum,
is
important,
with
impacts
on
the
ability
to
attract
developer
interest,
public's
ability
to
understand
and
support
a
development
agreement,
in
other
words,
get
that
communication
out
there.
W
The
public
in
terms
of
what
the
the
development
partnership
looks
like
council
and
staff
time
to
make
decisions
and
recommendations
regarding
the
proposal
and
also
there's
various
economic
factors,
including
where
we
are
with
the
covid19
pandemic
and
those
kinds
of
issues
that
have
impacted
so
greatly.
What
we
do
and
then
of
course,
the
impact
on
the
city
council
election
in
march
2022
and
the
ability
of
future
councils
to
maintain
a
previously
approved
development
agreement,
and
I
will
actually
defer
to
pam
on
this
timeline.
W
And
if
you
want
to
cover
this
now,
pam
on
the
the
rfp
process
and
the
referendum
election
time
frame.
T
So
the
timeline
that
we
have
presented
is
variable.
It
has
the
amount
of
time
it
takes.
It
does
not
presume
specific
dates.
The
timeline
for
the
rfp
process
is
seven
months.
The
timeline
for
the
referendum
process
is
an
additional
five
months
once
the
rfp
is
issued.
We've
allowed
90
days
for
the
response
period,
another
two
months
for
evaluation
and
selection,
and
that
includes
getting
it
to
counsel
for
confirmation
and
then
the
negotiation
period
of
two
months.
All
of
those
both
of
those
time
frames
are
very
compressed
and
do
not
allow
any
slide
time.
T
T
We
draft
the
questions
we've
allowed
six
to
eight
weeks,
for
that
the
length
of
time
is
dependent.
If
a
resolution
is
needed,
you
only
have
to
have
one
hearing.
If
an
ordinance
is
needed,
meaning
that
you're
actually
going
to
change
the
charter
provisions,
then
you
need
two
hearings
before
adoption.
T
W
Okay,
yeah,
we
I've
talked
been
talking
with
purchasing
the
last
week,
so
we
really
need
to
immediately
get
it
to
the
formal
notice.
Once
we
do
that,
we
can't
have
direct
conversations
with
the
the
respondents.
W
So
what
I've
been
talking
with
them
about
is
the
our
ability
to
get
it
advertised
and
get
it
on
the
street
formally
before
the
end
of
the
calendar
year.
So
that's
that's
an
opportunity,
that's
doable
for
us
if
you
are
comfortable
with
it
and
if
we
can
wrap
it
up
on
thursday,
so
that's
that's
purely
up
to
you,
but
what
we
will
not
be
able
to
do
is
have
it
out
on
the
street
publicly
accessible
through
because
of
our
purchasing
rules.
W
That's
fine,
we'll
get
it
we'll
get
a
shoot,
get
it
issued
sooner
rather
than
later.
If
you
are
comfortable
with
the
rfp,
so.
W
Well
for
respondents,
yes,
we
can
make
that
90
days.
I
think
we've
been
you
know,
90
days
with
no
shorter
than
60
days.
So
I
don't
disagree
with
you.
I
think
90
days
is
not
excessively
long
for
a
project
proposal.
That's
this
involved
and
and
detailed
potentially,
so
I'm
I'm
completely
comfortable
with
that.
I
don't
think
it'll
negatively
impact
us
at
all.
T
So
that
would
push
it
to
april
11th
for
the
response
day,
which
basically
keeps
our
time
frame
intact,
at
least
for
the
recommendation
we
were
making
for
the
referendum
for
march
of
2022.
If
that's
the
direction,
you
guys
want
to
go.
W
Questions
community
engagement
timeline
marketing
the
rfp
kind
of
two
tracks
here
marketing
campaign
to
advertise
the
rfp.
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we
inform
the
public
about
the
upcoming
need
for
the
the
referendum
crafting
the
development
deal
test,
referendum,
questions
in
focus
groups
with
surveys
and
again
continue
informing
the
public
about
process
in
terms
of
development
agreement
and
then
publicizing
the
referendum
provide
private
organization,
their
information
needed
to
assist
in
promoting
the
referendum
and
continue
the
public
information
regarding
the
referendum
process.
W
What
our
recommendation
to
you
is
at
this
point
is
to
prepare
for
a
referendum
in
march
of
2022,
which
allows
council
time
for
negotiations
public
time
to
understand
the
the
proposed
project
and
its
terms
and
there's
a
reasonable
amount
of
time
for
developer
to
to
wait
for
an
answer.
We
don't
want
to
draw
it
out
too
long
if
we're
going
to
proceed
with
the
rfp
in
the
near
future.
W
These
are
alternatives
is
to
to
try
to
achieve
a
referendum
in
november
of
2021.
We
think
that
process
is
constrained
too
much
and
doesn't
really
afford
us
the
time
for
either
proposals
or
successful
evaluations
or
preparing
for
the
referendum
august
of
2022
would
mean
that
the
old
council
creates
terms
immediately
before
a
new
council
is
elected
and
we
see
problems
with
that
as
being
undesirable,
maybe
not
not
workable,
but
but
not
the
best
of
situations.
G
B
B
Somewhat
of
an
issue
with
it
being
march
of
2022,
because
this
wasn't
where
I
was
going
to
make
these
comments,
but
as
long
as
you've
opened
the
door
I'm
going
to
this
is
going
to
be
a
difficult
process.
B
B
One
of
the
things
that
concerns
me
about
a
march
election,
I'm
just
going
to
be
very
frank
about
it.
Is
it
doesn't
matter
what
we
come
up
with
on
these
three
parcels?
There
will
be
people
that
oppose
it.
I
mean
that's
just
you
can't
get
consensus
with
a
city
of
our
size
on
anything
and
I
kid
about
it.
B
But
I
mean
you
literally
couldn't
get
consensus
on
world
peace,
so
there
will
be
people
that
will
vote
against
it
for
one
reason
or
another,
and
I
understand
that,
but
I
think
it'll
be
extraordinarily
important,
that
we
have
a
unanimous
decision
and
that
the
march
election
isn't
just
built
around
whether
you're
for
or
against.
B
What's
going
to
happen
on
these
three
parcels
because,
as
we
all
know,
there's
a
lot
more
to
being
a
sitting
city
council
member
than
just
this
issue.
But
it's
going
to
be
a
big
one,
and
so
you
know
that's
one
of
the
reasons.
I'd
I'd
really
rather
go
to
august.
But
you
know
some
of
the
developers
may
not
want
to
wait.
M
B
C
B
B
S
I
also
have
to
ask
the
supervisor
of
elections
for
their
support
of
handling
one
of
our
elections
during
the
primary
which
in
the
past
has
not
been
supported.
So
we
typically
try
to
schedule
our
referendum
questions
either
march
or
november,
because
we
know
that
there
has
been
express
support
for
that.
T
So
has
she
has
the
supervisor
said
she
does
not
want
to
support
in
august
2020.
B
W
Well,
I'll,
you
know,
I
think,
just
I
can't
help
myself,
I'm
optimistic.
I
think
that
we
will
have
some
very
good,
I'm
confident
that
we
can
have
some
good
proposals.
These
are
beautiful
properties
and
I
want
I
think
that
it's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
really
engage
our
neighborhood
coalition
and
get
community
support,
because
I
think
we
can
show
some
rather
spectacular
finishing
touches
to
activate
the
park.
So
I'm
you
know
I'm
looking
forward
to
that
being
a
pretty
nice
message,
and
hopefully
we
can.
W
So
we
want
to
engage
them
early
and
often,
and
and
and
really
have
them
fully
understand
what
what
we're
trying
to
do
to
to
activate
the
block
in
the
park
and
I'm
you
know,
I'm
hopeful
that
that
there
are
folks
out
there
who
want
to
support
us.
Although,
as
the
mayor
said,
we
certainly
can't
fig,
you
know
can't
assume
that
anything
will
be
100
agreed
upon
that
just
never
happens
so.
G
G
We
would
already
be
beyond
this
point
so,
but
I
think
the
more
I've
thought
about
it,
I'm
comfortable
with
the
march
of
22,
because
especially
if
we
as
a
body,
have
unanimous
support
for
the
rfp
we're
going
to
bring
forward
to
the
to
the
public,
then
I
don't
see
that
being
that
can
easily
be
derailed
as
a
campaign
issue
because
bottom
line,
you
know
you
don't
want
to
support
the
referendum.
So
you're
saying
you
don't
want
to
support
what
our
council
has
already
done
already
approved
unanimously.
G
You
know
so
you're,
okay,
with
just
everything,
staying
stagnant
and
doing
nothing,
and
I
think
I
think
it's
a
defusable
situation
and
I
mean
we've
been,
you
know,
we've
been
kicking
this
can
too
damn
long
and
I'm
I
I'm
willing
to.
I
agree
with
the
90-day,
even
possibly
120
days
of
the
rfp
being
out
there
before
it
has
to
come
back
but
and
compressing
somewhere
else
in
the
in
the
in
the
timeline.
G
But
I
will,
I
would,
I
think,
we're
better
off
having
this
going
forward
in
the
march
22
election.
W
G
G
G
I
don't.
I
don't
see
that
as
a
negative,
and
I
don't
want
to
take
that
opportunity
and
that
that
option
away
from
the
development
community
by
saying.
Well,
I
don't
want
to
build
a
hotel
because
there's
no
incentives
involved
with.
If
I,
if
I
bring
a
hotel
proposal
forward,
so
I
I
think
we
need
to
be
a
little
more
flexible
about
hotels
in
general
as
part
of
this
development
hotel
logic
lodging
units
than
just
saying:
they're,
not
they're,
not
eligible
for
any
any
incentive
at
all.
J
Vice
mayor
yeah-
and
I
again
this
is
something
that
I've
thought
about
and
even
on
one-on-ones
I
that
was
one
of
the
issues
I
had.
Okay,
so
we've
had
a
study
that
says
you
know
hotel
right
now,
downtown
doesn't
make
sense.
I
understand
that
it
doesn't,
but
we're
talking
about
a
finished
completed.
Imagine
clearwater
park
with
a
active
edge.
That's
going
to
completely
shift
the
activity
and
a
hotel
I
see
and
I'm
thinking
in
the
future.
A
hotel
is
a
great
spot
to
have
there
right
on
the
bluff.
It
could
be
a
boutique
hotel.
J
A
music
hotel
would
go
good
with
what
we're
planning
on
doing
in
the
park.
It
could
have
restaurants
some
public
parking.
I
just
see.
I
don't
want
to
I'd
rather
incentivize
that
and
say
hey
we're
going
to
exclude
that
any
kind
of
incentives
on
it,
because
that's
the
kind
of
vision
I
see
that
would
go
well.
There.
B
I
really
think
that
the
development
community
does
their
homework
studies.
What
they
believe
is
going
to
be
most
productive
and
most
profitable,
and
I
really
think
that
the
market
should
determine
what
they
think
ought
to
go
on
these
properties
and
then,
ultimately,
we
have
scoring
criteria
that
we're
going
to
decide
how
that
marries
up
to
what
we
desire
in
downtown.
W
This
is
an
easy
change
to
make
if,
if
you
all
have
consensus
this
morning,.
C
I'm
okay
with
hotel
use
being
there.
I
would
certainly
want
to
know
a
lot
more
about
what
incentivizing
a
hotel
would
look
like.
As
far
as
if
it's
guaranteeing
you
know,
rooms
are
occupied,
are
we
subsidizing
that
and
paying
for
rooms
that
nobody
is
in?
Is
that
what
that
means?
And
so
I
I'd
want
to
understand-
you
know
what
that
means,
but
certainly
we
want
to
encourage
people
to
consider
a
hotel.
You.
I
Council
member
hamilton
had
talked
about
maybe
expanding
the
time,
for
you
know
the
proposals
to
come
in,
but.
I
M
B
Go
first,
so
you
know
what
I'm
going
to
do.
I
am
going
to
run
through
some
of
the
comments
I
have
and
then,
if
anybody
wants
to
take
piggyback
off
them
great
and
if
there's
something
that
I've
missed,
which
I'm
sure
I
will
then
we
can
come
back
and
discuss
that
michael,
I
might
have
missed
it,
but
I
didn't
see
anything
in
the
document
that
was
touting
the
fact
that
these
properties
are
on
a
natural
bluff
that
takes
them
out
of
the
floodplain
which
to
me
is
a
really
positive
attribute.
B
B
There
was
a
statement
about
the
trend
of
working
at
home.
I
and
it
stated
that
it's
you
know
that
this
is
a
trend
that
is
here
to
stay.
That's
kind
of
an
editorial
comment.
I
think
time
will
tell
whether
that's
truly
the
case.
We've
seen
some
productivity
losses
from
people
that
are
working
at
home
on
page
17,
one
of
the
things
it
talks
about
the
harborview
site.
I
certainly
would
like
to
see
restaurants
that
avail
themselves
of
the
western
exposure.
B
In
the
overall
considerations
on
page
17,
it
talks
about
the
harborview
site
city
cra
have
identified
ground
floor
retail
as
a
requirement
to
the
harborview
site.
Although
ground
floor
retail
is
not
a
specific
requirement
for
the
city
hall
and
the
peer
stream
site's
active
ground
floors
are
encouraged.
B
I
would
like
to
encourage
restaurants
that
are
looking
out
across
the
park
west,
and
I
know
you
may
want
them
on
the
you
know
the
entryway
into
the
park,
but
I
would
hope
that
we're
going
to
have
some
al
fresco,
dining
that's
going
to
be
looking
less.
Oh
absolutely.
W
W
Okay,
that's
yeah.
M
J
Is
how
you're
treating
the
land
with
that
bee
and
I
think
I've
had
this
a
pan
before
I
can't
remember
I
gotta,
because
on
the
north
side
of
pierce,
the
city
hall
site
now
will
probably
be
a
leased
property
because
you
probably
will
not
get
a
referendum
to
sell
that
and
if
it's
leased
it'll
be
hard
to
do
a
condo,
because
it
would
have
to
be
a
land
lease
condo.
I
don't
know
if
that'd
be
a
feasible
developer
on
the
south
side
of
pierce,
the
cma
property
that
could
be
sold.
J
B
J
Yeah-
and
I
agree
with
that-
let
them
because
they're
going
to
come
to
us
with
the
ideas
and
then
we'll
have
a
chance
to
review
it
and
see
if
that's
feasible,
but
kind
of
number
one
in
my
mind,
as
I've
been
here
and
I've
seen
as
the
mayor
has
how
referendums
seem
to
fail,
my
thoughts
are:
how
are
we
going
to
reach
a
successful
referendum,
and
I
see
some
things
that
I
see
would
be
pushing
into
an
unsuccessful
referendum,
but
you
know
we
could
always
look
at
it
later.
Give
the
option
to
have
that
happen.
J
T
I
don't
think
our
goal
was
to
create
limitations,
but
there
are
some
limitations
that
exist
in
terms
of
referring
them.
G
And
I,
as
you
all
talk
about
peer
street,
I
I've
always
said
you
know,
rather
than
moving
all
that
infrastructure
and
everything
else,
you
know
you
allow
for
development
of
the
air
rights
above
pierce
street
pierce
remains
where
it
is,
but
you,
if
you
incorporate
both
properties
together,
you
can
build
over
pier
street
as
long
as
vehicular
traffic
and
trucks
can
get
down
to
to
the
front.
You
know
still
traverse
pierce
street.
G
You
can
build
right
across
the
road
and
you
know
that
would
be
a
way
to
do
a
larger
development
of
the
parcel
using
using
those
air
rights
and
whatnot.
So
like.
M
G
M
W
T
Pam,
so
you
can't
represent
that
you
would
do
it
because
it
would
require
a
legislation,
legislative
action
of
the
council.
You
can
say
that
you
would
consider
it.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
enough
information
about
the
infrastructure
now
to
know
what
the
cost
of
that
would
be.
So
I
think
you
could
open
up
possibilities,
but
you
can't
really
say
we
would
do
that
right.
T
C
I'm
okay
with
you
know:
whatever
developers
want
to
come
forward
with,
I
mean
fewer
restrictions,
are
probably
I
mean
as
far
as
this
part,
I
have
some
more
things
that
I'd
like
a
little
more
narrow,
but
this
one's
not
a
big
deal.
Okay,.
B
Scoring
so
the
category
breakdowns
I
mean,
there's,
you
know
120
points
for
non-financial
criteria,
50
for
project
understanding
and
concept
and
organization,
expertise
and
experience.
First
of
all,
who's
going
to
be
on
the
selection
committee
and
those
are
really
big
point
totals
in
relation
to
everything
else.
W
Well,
we've
been
discussing
that
I
think
right
now
kind
of
what
our
tendency
would
be
well
with
regard
to
the
first
question:
who
would
we
have
staff
wise
internally
reviewing
it?
That
would
probably
be
the
departments
that
have
some
extensive
familiarity
with
the
project
and
our
objectives,
so
it
might
be
someone
from
planning
and
development
parks
and
rec
engineering.
W
With
regard
to
the
short
listing
we,
you
certainly
will
be
aware
of
all
of
them.
We
can
summarize
them
in
a
summary
sheet
as
to
who
responded.
What
we
would
anticipate
is
to
try
to
narrow
it
down
to
three
top
selections
of
one
form
or
another
and
then
have
those
set
up
to
make
a
presentation
formally
to
you.
W
But
clearly
this
is
one
of
those
things
that
that's
important
for
us
to
work
out
with
you
here
this
morning,
ideally
particularly,
if
we're
going
to
try
to
get
it
out
by
the
end
of
the
year,
but
that's
kind
of
the
the
approach
that
we
were
considering,
but.
W
No,
you
know,
I
think
the
reality
is
that
we'll
have
to
look
at
that
in
terms
of
how
we
get
responses,
I
mean
you
know
we
we
have
intentionally
left
it
wide
open.
Somebody
could
propose
hailing
all
three
sites.
We
could
have
three
separate
individuals.
We
could
have
a
mix
of
two
or
more.
There
may
be
some
things
that
we
really
like
about
one
proposal
and
not
so
much
the
others
and
and
vice
versa.
So
where
will
we
end
up?
I
don't
you
know,
I'm
not
sure
it's
hard
to.
W
I
think
it's
impossible
to
predict
that
there
again,
as
you
suggested
earlier,
we're
not
being
overly
prescriptive
in
terms
of
how
somebody
responds,
but
I
think
that's
you
know.
On
the
back
end,
that's
that's
a
little
bit
challenging
and
trying
to
evaluate
and
review
these
things
and
clearly
there's
going
to
be
a
need
to
have
a
conversation
with
you
through
that
process.
So,
but
our
our
focus
would
try
to
be
to
narrow
it
down
to
three
and
then
have
a
formal
presentation
to
you
all.
B
That's
correct
as
long
as
there's
more
than
one,
because
empirically
somebody
may
come
out
on
top,
but
I
think,
as
elected
officials,
we
also
have
to
have
the
pulse
of
the
community
to
some
extent
and
understand
what
we
think
can
also
pass
referendum,
because
without
doing
that,
we're
going
to
fail.
Yeah.
W
I
I
would
be
hopeful
that
we
would
find
some
extraordinary
creative
concepts
in
one
or
more
of
these,
and
it
may
that
alone
may
facilitate
that.
We
want
you
to
see
some
components
of
these
presentations
that
that
hit
on
all
cylinders.
Even
if
one
hundred
percent
of
every
proposal
is
not
necessarily,
you
know
that
has
to
be
negotiated
right,
I
mean
that's,
that's
part
of
the
process,
so
you
know
it'll
it'll,
be
driven
by
the
quality
and
the
thoroughness
of
our
respondents.
T
T
So,
council,
I
think
you
probably
need
to
give
us
some
direction
here.
So
say
we
get
three
master
developer
proposals
and
then
we
get
three
individual
proposals
for
each
site.
T
W
I
think
in
concept
that's
correct.
I
don't
actually
think
that
is
a
completely
determinable
question
this
morning,
because
we're
going
to
afford
broad
flexibility
and
latitude
on
how
they
how
they
submit.
So
my
intention
is
to
give
you
an
a
kind
of
an
inclination
or
a
direction
that
we're
thinking,
but
if
we
get
four
world-class
architects
that
show
up
and
make
four
proposals-
and
frankly,
I'd
probably
want
to
have
you
see
all
of
them.
W
So
I
I
don't
think
it's
it's
not
a
three
and
done,
but
that
would
be
our
inclination
is
to
bring
you
multiple
proposals,
the
top
three,
if
it,
if
it
ends
up
falling
out
that
way
and
if
frankly,
there's
proposals
that
we
feel
you
need
to
see.
If
it's
a
fourth
or
a
fifth-
and
you
know,
my
intention
would
be
to
show
it
to
you
so
and
we'll
be
having
probably
some
one-on-ones
along
the
way
to
kind
of
keep
you
all
informed
as
to
where
the
process
is.
J
Under
your
category
breakdown
mm-hmm,
I
know
that
beckman
would
like
this,
but
I
do
too,
under
this
meek,
green
and
wellness
certification
standards.
You
give
five
points.
C
C
The
five
bonus
points
is
like,
but
I
I
want
you
know.
I
I
think,
with
our
referendum
related
to
the
landings.
You
know,
one
of
the
components
of
a
two
to
one
margin
is
that
people
care
about
the
environment
and
going
forward
all
sorts
of
studies
report
that
people
tourists
care
about
the
environment
and
what
you're
doing
for
sustainability,
and
I
think
we
should
make
these
a
requirement
of
submission.
This
kind
of
sustainable
building
and
development.
B
J
D
J
W
Yeah,
well,
I
think
if
we
have
consensus
this
morning,
we
can
take
a
look
at
at
adjusting
this
criteria
to
make
sure
that
it's
understood
that
environmental,
sustainable
initiatives
in
our
proposals
is
important
to
us
and
try
to
elevate
that.
W
I
I
too
believe
that
that's
a
an
advantage
and
an
asset
to
us.
You
know,
frankly,
we're
already
hearing
from
some
of
the
folks
who
would
like
to
reuse
materials
from
the
city
hall
in
in
a
proposal.
As
a
you
know,
materials
recovery
for
the
building
that
you
would
like
to
have
us
tear
down.
So
I
think
those
are
the
kind
of
initiatives
that
it's
good
to
have
on
the
table.
W
Those
are
opportunities
doesn't
mean
we
won't
go
ahead
and
tear
it
down
and
haul
it
out
of
the
city,
but
I
mean
that
there's
a
creative
number
of
ways
that
people
can
respond
to
those
issues
and
that's
just
one
of
them,
so
we
can
between
now
and
thursday.
We
can
kind
of
tweak
this
and
and
emphasize
that
more.
If
there's
a
consensus
for
you
to
do
so,
I
would
have
no
problem
with
that
at
all.
C
C
You
had
asked
about
the
cost
of
demolishing
and
I'd
asked
about
the
cost
of
maintaining
it
and
insurance
and
heating
and
cooling
or
whatever,
while
it
sits
there
empty,
but
you
know
we're
we're
talking
as
if
we're
going
to
put
this
out
by
the
end
of
the
year-
and
I
know
that's
your
recommendation,
but
in
order
you
also,
you
know,
made
a
statement
about.
C
You
know
having
engage
in
support
from
the
neighborhoods
and-
and
I
think
by
us
discussing
this
on
a
monday
and
then
finalizing
some.
You
know
direction
to
submit
those
rfps
out
there
by
the
end
of
the
year.
C
That's
like
whiplash
and-
and
I
do
know
that
people
we've
been
talking
about
it
for
years
or
you
all
have
been
talking
about
it
for
years,
but
if
we
want
buy-in
from
residents,
I
think
we
need
to.
This
is
great
to
get
a
discussion
about
the
whole
process
and
the
timelines
and
getting
it
on
the
ballot
and
reviewing
rfps
and
all
that
negotiating.
C
But
I
you
know
I
would
push
for
a
november
of
2022
and
give
us
a
little
time,
and
I
and
part
of
our
discussions-
I
don't
know
if
it
was
with
you
or
pam,
was
that
you
know
we
need
to
be
respectful
of
the
developers
that
once
we
put
an
rfp
out,
we're
not
going
to
say
oh
well,
you
know
what
we'll
put
it
on
the
ballot
whenever
it
feels
right.
C
I
mean
they
are
making
proposals
with
costs
and
they
want
some
kind
of
a
turnaround
and
that's
expected
and-
and
you
know
I
would
respect
that,
but
but
I
I
just
you
know
to
be
thinking
about
these
things
and,
for
example,
advocating,
for
you
know
environmental,
sustainable
standards
in
the
requirements.
C
You
know.
Maybe
people
want
to
weigh
in
on
that,
but
but
you
know
you're
asking
for
a
decision
and
action
by
by
thursday.
You
know-
and
I
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
like
on
the
bottom
of
this
slide-
on
incentives
providing
more
than
200
rental
units
across
the
three
sites.
Does
that
mean
if
we
have
one
developer,
who
says
I'll
put
200
units
on
the
on
the
old
city
hall
site
or
the
harborview
site,
rentals
or
hotel,
or
whatever?
C
Does
that
mean
the
other
two
developers
don't
have
to
have
any
because
it
says
across
the
three
sites?
Does
you
have
to
have
development
on
you
know
rentals
or
or
some
kind
of
housing
rental
units
across
each
one
of
them,
because
I
don't
know
how
to
read
that
or
is
it
you
know
in
totality
you
got
to
have
at
least.
W
Well,
there
is
an
assumption
that
details
will
be
handled
through
a
development
agreement
process
that
serves
the
public
interest,
so
we
don't
try
to
nail
down
every
single
component
of
it.
Admittedly,
but
I
think
what
that
means
is
that
we
would
take
as
many
residential
units
down
here.
Somebody
would
be
willing
and
able
to
build.
W
W
If
we
had
two
different
developers
doing
that
they'd
probably
be
cannibalizing
each
other
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
the
market
right
now
may
not
be
that
way
in
the
future.
But
right
now
it's
it's
a
little
bit
tougher
sell.
So
you
know,
we've
expressed
a
willingness
to
jump
in
a
little
bit
deeper
in
incentives
if
we
get
a
few
more
units.
C
Is
there
any
desire
for
some
kind
of
a
civic
center
at
all
on
any
of
those?
You
know
a
com.
You
know,
convention
center.
Anything
like
that.
G
G
I
don't
think
the
the
the
public
input
portion
of
the
public,
educating
the
public
and
getting
feedback
from
them
comes
once
we
put
out
the
rfp,
then
we
can
go
out
and
say:
okay,
this
is
what
we've
put
out.
This
is
what
we're
waiting
to
get
back
and
and
and
and
engaging
the
public.
From
that
point,
I
don't
think
we
need
to
be
engaging
them
to
put
the
rfp
out
there,
because
I,
like
I
said
I
think,
there's
very
few
people.
G
B
Well-
and
I
would
piggyback
on
that
and
say
that
you
know,
if
we're
not
going
to
be
prescriptive
up
here,
then
I
don't
know
that
we
should
have
you
know
different
sectors
of
the
public
be
prescriptive
either.
I
think,
as
pam
said,
we're
not
committed
to
anything.
We
can
reject
anything
that
comes
to
us.
B
I
hope
we'll
get
three
proposals
that
we
feel
really
comfortable
bringing
to
the
public
to
continue
to
activate
downtown
and
make
downtown
more
self-sufficient,
which
is
one
of
the
main
things
I
want
to
do.
I
want
to
help
pay
for
imagine
clearwater.
I
want
to
put
more
humans
down
here
that
are
going
to
activate
cleveland
street
and
osceola,
and
I
want
downtown
to
be
more
self-sufficient
that
that,
to
me
are
the
reasons
to
do
this
so
back
to
you.
C
I
want
I
want
those
things
as
well,
but
I
I
also
look
at
you
know
this
powerpoint
slide
23,
where,
when
we're
talking
about
the
november
22nd
or
2022
date
that
it
could
be
a
positive
delay
if
market
conditions
improve
resulting
in
less
public
subsidy-
and
you
know
I
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
cutting
25
million
dollars
from
imagine
clear
waters
and
a
lot
of
those
effects
will
be
felt
on
the
park
section.
C
You
know
the
the
amenities
you
know
as
far
as
shade
and
and
seating
areas
and
splash
pad
and
size
of
the
playground
and
all
those
things
that
residents
hopefully
will
be
taking
advantage
of
every
single
day
and
now
we're
going
to
talk
about
you
know
if,
if
we're
pushing
this
through,
we
may
have
to
incentivize
more
the
second,
the
bullet.
Underneath
that
also
says
park,
construction
will
be
well
underway,
which
will
increase,
developer
confidence,
and
so
maybe
we'd
get
a
larger
number
of
submissions.
C
You
know
once
they
see
the
park
is
up
and
going,
but
you
know
I
I
guess
in
the
end
we're
only
talking
about
a
number
of
months
to
rather
than
submitting
this
by
the
end
of
the
week
or
next
week,
waiting
a
few
a
couple
of
months
or
so
for
that
november.
2022.
B
Well,
I
was
more
inclined
to
do
august.
I
think
I
can
change
my
mind
and
go
with
march.
I
I
will
tell
you.
There
is
a
concern
that
I
have
overall
for
coachmen
and
for
the
bluff,
and
we
experienced
it
out
on
the
beach
it's
a
little
bit
different
in
downtown,
but
beach
walk
was
a
painful
project.
I
mean
it
really
was
back.
In
the
day
there
were
a
lot
of
people
that
were
adamantly
opposed
to
it.
B
I
think
it
was
a
good
thing
in
the
long
run,
I
think
it's
been
a
tremendous
catalyst
and
then
we
had
a
lot
of
the
different
hotel
sites
being
built
upon
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
get
through
as
quickly
as
possible.
Is
the
constant
dust
flying
you
know
for
the
residents
who
do
live
down
here
at
pierce,
100
and
station
square
and
water's
edge
and
other
things.
So
I
think
that
the
tighter
we
can
pack
that
so
that
we're
not
constantly
you
know
under
construction
as
beneficial.
B
We
lost
european
tourists
during
beach
walk
because
they
literally
the
travel
sales
people
would
potentially
have
to
rebate
european
tourists.
If
there
was
a
lot
of
construction
going
on
that's
part
of
their
warranty
process
over
in
europe,
because
the
construction
was
so
disruptive
councilmember
bunker.
B
I
So
I
like
the
the
march
date,
I
think,
when
council
member
beckman
and
I
joined
the
council
very
early
on,
we
were
hit
with
the
landings
and
we
had
like
two
or
three
days
notice
before
we
were
talking
about
it
here
and
then
there
was
only
like
three
months
before
the
public
voted
on
it.
At
least
here
they're,
going
to
have
more
than
a
year
to
be
looking
at
no.
T
The
three
months
before
the
public
voted
on
it.
It
actually
takes
five
months
to
get
to
that
vote,
so
there
was
more
time
between
you're
deciding
to
move
forward
and
the
public
vote.
Oh.
I
Okay,
well,
at
any
rate,
there's
more
time
for
us
to
reach
out
to
the
public
in
this
case
and
talk
about
this,
and
I
also
would
would
agree
with
councilmember
beckmann
that
sustainability
is
important
and
we
should
beat
that
up
in
the.
E
Horn-
I
just
I
just
had
one
comment
and
it
it
comes
as
a
result
of
how
long
I've
been
here
and
where
the
city
has
been
criticized.
E
E
You
know
that
you
end
up
impacting
the
market
in
a
way
that
you
never
really
intended
to
do
so,
and
I
think
we
do
have
time
to
make
changes
once
we
see
once
we
hear
how
the
market
is
reacting,
I
mean
we've.
Never
really,
you
know
tried
to
show
that
kind
of
flexibility.
We've
always
gone
in
with
a
pretty
definite
perspective
on
what
we
want
and
we're
trying
to
do
that
to
a
certain
extent,
but
I
think
we're
kind
of
going
back
and
forth.
You
know
we
want
flexibility,
you
know
we
don't.
E
We
don't
want
to
be
so
prescriptive,
but
on
the
other
hand,
we've
got
some
other
considerations,
especially
related
to
a
timeline
that
we
want
to
respect
as
well
and
and
and-
and
I
really
think
this
is
council
in
a
leading
position,
making
some
pretty
decisive
decisions
and
and
and
and
we're
doing
in
such
an
open
way
that
the
public
clearly
gets
informed
as
to
what
we're
doing
so.
E
I
guess
I
don't
see
as
much
consultation
on
the
on
the
on
the
public
engagement
side
of
it
as
you're,
trying
as
you're
trying
to
craft
a
framework
here
that
really
tries
to
try
to
deal
with
some
of
these
some
of
these
variables
and
and
that
my
uncomfortableness
is,
is
centered
around
how
broadly
you
may
try
to
get
people
to
agree
with
you,
as
opposed
to
you
know,
taking
into
account
all
the
different.
E
C
B
And
I
think
there
are
some
things
that
we've
given
staff
to
react
to
and
so
we'll
give
them
a
couple
days
and
then
come
back.
I
think
at
least
now
you
know.
As
always,
we
can
only
have
discussions
amongst
ourselves
up
here.
So
now
I
think
everybody's
heard
from
one
another
about
you,
know,
sensitivities
and
opinions
and
whatnot,
and
so
that
will
kind
of
guide
us
on
thursday
so
that
we
can
hopefully
have
a
finished
product.
C
W
W
W
W
It
doesn't
negate
it,
but
we
believe
that
it
pushes
it
off
further
than
would
be
suitable
for
the
development
community.
The
longer
the
time
frame,
the
more
uncertainty
and,
frankly,
probably
one
of
the
biggest
things
that
is
an
obstacle
for
us
is
uncertainties,
so
we
would
much.
Rather
we
would
highly
recommend
a
more
definitive
and
time
frame
to
get
to
the
referendum.
Point
pam.
T
What
we
are
planning
is
putting
the
time
frame
in
the
referendum
and
then
we're
planning
on
complying
with
it.
So
if
we
say
we're
going
to
have
a
march
2022
election
and
we
should
have
a
march
2022
election
so
that
it
is
predictable
for
the
developers
and
the
community,
if
you
want
to
go
to
november
2022-
and
you
guys
agreed
to
do
that-
then
we
would
adjust
that
and
probably
adjust
the
issuance
out
several
months
as
well.
T
But
the
time
frames
that
we're
identifying.
We
really
urge
you
to
be
prepared
to
comply
with
them,
because
I
think
it
will
affect
the
development
community.
If
we
do.
J
Yeah,
I
just
you
know,
wanted
to
bring
up
one
thing.
As
bill
said,
we
don't
want
to
legislate
the
marketplace,
but
at
the
same
time,
on
the
other
hand,
the
developer,
when
we
be
as
specific
as
we
can
but
leaving
it
open,
his
risk
is
knowing
the
marketplace
and
knowing
the
time
I've
seen
we
in
the
past
clearwater
has
come
up
with
some
great
ideas,
but
by
the
time
they
get
implemented
out
on
the
market,
we're
in
a
slump
and
then
nobody
wants
to
do
anything.
You
know
you
have
the
market.
J
Does
this
it
hit
highs
and
lows,
and
right
now
we're
looking
pretty
good,
but
you
know
the
middle
of
next
year.
We
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen
and
really
that
will
affect,
and
those
are
things
we
can't
see.
I
mean
so
you
need
to
get
this
in.
My
I've
always
thought
that
if
you
got
a
good
idea
get
out
there
while
it
gets
good,
you
know
and
then
because
you
don't
want
to
miss
that
that
wave,
you
don't
want
to
get
it
out.
J
B
That
happened
with
the
marina
in
downtown.
It
got
approved
in
06
when
there
weren't
enough
boat
slips
and
people
were
paying
outrageous
amounts
of
money
per
lineal
foot
for
boats,
and
then
we
cut
the
ribbon
in
2009
in
the
middle
of
the
great
recession.
And
you
know
the
situation
was
vastly
different.
It's
doing
well
now,
but
it's
different
councilmember
beckman.
C
Well,
I
was
well
I
my
note
says
I
just
see
you
know,
I
think
I
think
if
we
have
it
on
a
march
2022
referendum
with
two
council
seats
up,
I
you
know
I
just.
C
I
think
it
could
be
a
tough
election
and
then
yeah
I
mean
I
and
to
your
point
I
mean
I
was
thinking
of
when
you
were
speaking
to
it.
It
just
it
just
seems,
was
so
much
unknown.
C
I'm
just
a
little
more
cautious
with
money
and
and
decisions
and
and
just
think
worry
about,
incentivizing
and
paying
out
large
amounts
to
developers.
If,
if
there
could
be
more
positive
things,
if
we
waited
a
little
bit,
but
you
don't
know
it's
it's
you
don't
know
it's
market
right
and
we
don't
know
what
we
don't
know.
M
B
Or
you
might
move
forward
with
two
of
them
and
leave
one
for
down
the
road
I
mean.
Theoretically,
we
should
be
in
an
upturn
because
by
march,
if
the
vaccine
is
effective,
which
I
think
everyone
believes
it
will
be
and
by
then
it
will
be
broadly
distributed
to
those
people
who
want
to
have
it.
You
should
see
an
economic
upturn
at
that
point,
so
at
least
that's
what
most
economists
are
expecting
coming
from
my
world.
W
I
we're
going
to
adjust
the
rfp
for
the
hotel
incentive
opportunity,
comment
made
by
promoting
or
or
not
promoting,
but
making
sure
it's
apparent
that
we're
on
a
natural
bluff.
We
don't
have
fema,
that's
a
that's,
not
a
policy
thing
we'll
we'll.
Certainly
we
can
add
that
in
there
the
trend
of
working
at
home,
we
can
adjust
that
and
alter
that.
If
you
want
to
take
it
out,
if
it
doesn't
matter
we'll
just
point
taken
is
that
it
doesn't
matter,
it
was
just.
W
The
harbor
view
restaurants,
looking
west,
I
think
that's
clearly
part
of
our
objectives.
We
can.
We
can
look
at
how
that
language
is
there,
but
I'm
certainly
during
a
development
proposal
in
the
future.
We
would
want
something
to
integrate
with
the
park,
which
is
why
we're
doing
this,
the
far
being
proposed,
that's
on
its
way,
city
hall,
cma,
be
united
and
move
peer
street
to
south.
That's
an
important
change,
we'll
tweak
that
and
make
sure
that
that
opportunity
is
known.
W
So
just
to
recap
we're,
I
think,
we're
all
in
alignment
on
our
project
goals,
no
issues
there,
the
regulatory
framework
use
of
incentive
we've
made
that
or
we'll
make
that
adjustment
for
you
on
thursday,
we're
going
to
tweak
the
evaluation
criteria,
increase
the
points
making
sure
that
it's
it's
clear
that
we're
encouraging
sustainable
issues
and
we'll
try
to
we'll
we'll
work
on
that
and
then
the
selection
schedule.
W
Basically,
what
I've
heard
is
that
you
all
want
to
have
us
plan
for
a
possible
referendum
in
march
of
2022,
so
we
will
make
these
changes.
I
also
wanted
to
encourage
you
if
you
have
any
scribner's
things
or
spellings
or
things
that
you
want
to
think
feel
free
to
get
them
to
us.
W
We
can
make
those
changes
without
needing
to
discuss
them
on
thursday.
If
you
propose
anything
to
us,
which
is
a
policy
related
matter,
then
that
will
have
to
come
back
to
you
on
thursday
night,
but
you
know
feel
free
to
provide
us
any
comments,
and
the
last
thing
I
want
to
tell
you
is
that-
and
we
may
have
these
incorporated
for
you
on
on
thursday,
but
I
do
have
some
changed
photographs
that
are
updated
to
reflect
the
current
part
design.
We
receive
those
late
on
friday,
so
those
are
basically
in
hand.
W
I
haven't
looked
at
all
of
them,
yet
I
don't
know
if
I'll
tweak
anything
or
not
at
this
point,
but
we
what
appears
to
me
that
we
have
some
good
photographs
so
with
that
we'll
make
those
adjustments
for
you
on
thursday
night
and
if,
if
we
can
get
a
consensus
on
those
on
thursday,
then
I
think
in
talking
with
purchasing.
We
can
have
this
on
the
street
before
the
end
of
2022..
W
That's
your
proposal
purchasing
thinks
we
can
get
it
in
the
ad
the
week
before
christmas-
oh
great,
that's
so
soon,
yeah,
but
and
that
that'll
coincide
with
our
inability
to
have
direct
conversations,
but
we'll
have
a
mechanism
for
getting
all
questions
in
there.
The
development
company,
the
community
of
developers
that
we're
looking
for
will
know
how
to
respond
to
these
to
this
rfp.
I'm
confident
about
that.
So
we
just
hope
that
we
can
generate
the
interest
so.
B
Anything
else,
mr
horn.
Yes,
one
thing.