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From YouTube: City of Clearwater Government: 6/3 Council Work Session.
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The agenda for the meeting can be found on the city's website at http://bit.iy/clearwaterCityCouncilMeetings
B
A
Has
been
made
and
seconded
to
approve
the
minutes
of
May
13th,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed
no
motion
carries
unanimously
anybody
from
the
public
wishing
to
speak
to
an
item
that
is
not
on
the
agenda
of
the
CRA.
If
so,
please
come
forward
at
this
time.
If
not
I
will
move
on
to
agenda
another
I'm.
Sorry,
have
you
filled
out
a
card
with
the
card?
Give
us
okay,
just
give
us
your
name,
please,
and
so.
B
My
name
is
Kathleen
Beckman
good
morning.
I
am
an
engaged,
Clearwater
resident,
I'm,
incredibly
proud
of
the
city
and
the
people
who
live
and
work
here.
Thank
you
to
you
all
for
your
service.
Thank
you
for
trying
your
best
to
do
what
is
best
for
Clearwater,
but
I
think
you
can
do
better.
I
want
our
City,
Council
and
City
boards
to
first
and
foremost
serve
the
needs
of
our
residents
and
respect
their
wishes.
B
The
residents
of
Clearwater
have
indicated
time
and
again
what
they
care
about
what
they
want
in
development
every
day,
I
interact
with
residents
in
Clearwater.
Their
concerns
are
real.
They
want
more
options
in
affordable
housing.
They
want
solutions
to
our
traffic
and
parking
challenges.
They
want
clear
water
to
be
a
leader
in
supporting
the
needs
of
its
service
workers.
They
want
to
be
safe.
They
want
this
city
whose
economic
stability
is
dependent
on
recreation,
namely
beaches,
fishing
and
boating,
to
value
the
environment
and
sustainability.
B
Protecting
our
fragile
natural
resources
and
environment
and
making
all
decisions
with
sustainability
in
mind
is
crucial
to
the
survival
of
Clearwater,
both
economically
and
aesthetically.
Each
one
of
you
needs
to
be
a
leader
who
accepts
that
fundamental
fact
and
lets
it
serve
as
a
foundation
in
all
of
your
discussions
and
decisions.
B
Today,
I
would
ask
you
to
consider
the
environmental
impact
of
each
decision
you
make.
This
is
particularly
relevant
with
the
edge
water
edge
water
project.
Have
you
conducted
appropriate
environmental
impact
studies
prior
to
giving
approval
for
more
development?
Is
this
development
really
necessary,
or
is
it
merely
an
outside
developer?
B
That
is
sustainable,
and
that
is
supportive
of
the
character,
aesthetic
values,
safety
and
transportation
needs
of
neighborhoods
I
urge
you
to
listen
to
the
desires
of
the
residents
first
and
respect
the
recommendations
of
the
highly
paid
consultants,
who
have
advised
you
to
leave
a
smaller
footprint,
both
environmentally
and
financially,
with
the
imagine
Clearwater
development
in
particular.
Thank
you.
A
Anybody
else
for
the
public
wishing
to
make
a
political
statement
or
other
comments,
and
for
the
record,
please
understand
that
this
is
the
Community
Redevelopment
Agency.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
Edgewater
drawing
project
and
the
sustainability
again.
You
know
this
is
the
CRA,
but
it
wasn't
on
the
agenda.
So
your
comments
are
appreciated
and
noted
anybody
else
from
the
public
wishing
to
speak
to
an
item
that
is
not
on
the
agenda.
C
D
C
C
Screen
someone
to
make
up
I
won't
be
too
long
but
I.
Well.
First
of
all,
let
me
just
say
thank
you.
It
is
it's
a
little
bit
scary
to
leave
for
three
months
right,
something
that
you're
really
passionate
about
and
to
leave
your
department.
These
activities
are
going
in
momentum,
but
I
really
appreciate
the
support
of
the
trustees
during
this
time.
Obviously,
the
staff
and
mr.
C
We
are
at
a
halfway
point
on
our
strategy,
so
I
put
the
dates
up
there,
and
this
was
adopted
at
the
end
of
September
right.
So
it
was
to
go
from
October
2018
to
March
of
2020,
as
we
know
that
elections
are
coming
up
so,
whether
we're
terrified
by
this
fact
or
not
we're
halfway
through
trying
to
achieve
these
goals
and
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
highlight,
what's
been
accomplished
and
where
we've
course-corrected
right,
because
of
course
we
don't
know
everything
perfectly
from
the
start.
C
We're
gonna
have
to
iterate
and
learn
as
we
go
and
so
reminding
our
desired
outcome
is
create
lasting
change
right,
so
not
just
intermediate
or
short-term
change,
but
lasting
change
in
downtown
by
shifting
the
perceptions
held
by
public
and
investors
about
city
government
and
downtown
Clearwater
to
one
that
aligns
with
the
adopted
vision,
and
we
know
that
everyone
can
have
a
different
perception
of
a
situation
right
driven
by
their
personal
experience
or
maybe
what
their
friend
thinks.
We
also
know,
there's
facts
that
exist.
C
You
know
when
we
choose
to
participate
in
a
shared
reality
right,
so
part
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
is
is
shifting
these
perceptions,
because
we
know
that
we
need
belief
in
the
public.
We
need
the
public
to
believe
in
downtown.
We
need
investors
to
believe
in
downtown
and
the
perceptions
that
were
we're
tackling
here.
I
just
want
to
focus
on
really
there
from
risk
adverse
committed
right
and
every
time
that
we
are
making
decisions.
We're
implementing
programs
we're
investing
funds,
we're
showing
our
commitment
to
downtown,
and
we
have
already
done
a
lot
of
that.
C
If
you
look
at
the
streetscape,
if
you
look
at
what's
working
with
imagine
Clearwater,
the
city
has
invested
millions
of
dollars
into
downtown
and
we
will
continue
to
do
so.
We're
also
going
from
scattered
to
focused
right
we're
not
trying
to
be
everything
to
everybody.
We're
not
trying
to
accomplish
every
single
idea
out
there,
we're
very
focused
on
on
what
we're
trying
to
do,
and
then
the
last
one
I'll
emphasize
is
soul
Thunder
to
partner
right.
C
So
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
in
the
CRA
is
not
you
know:
what
can
an
France
do
as
an
army
of
one
right
over
twenty
years
right
or
what?
What
can
Amanda
do?
What
can
the
mayor
do
it's?
How
do
we
find
and
sustain
partnerships
so
that
we
can
have
this
lasting
change
and
the
perception
of
downtown
you
know
this
year?
We're
really
focused
on
showing
how
vibrant
downtown
is.
We
know
the
great
businesses
and
events
that
are
already
occurring,
we're
showing
that
it's
going
from
no
arts
to
arts
infused
right.
C
We
know,
that's
not
true.
The
downtown
is
a
safe
and
welcoming
place
and
we're
working
to
make
it
even
more
so,
and
so
we
have
four
steps
here,
appear
simple,
but
this
is
actually
very
hard
to
do
and
we
are,
we
are
doing
it.
We've
committed
to
a
strategy
that
we're
half
way
through
we're,
communicating
it
we're
implementing
it
and
we're
tracking
and
publishing
results.
So
again,
we
can
course
correct
as
needed.
It's
not
a
set
it
and
forget
it.
We
are
actively
always
evaluating
the
work
that
we're
doing
so.
C
The
four
focus
areas
of
our
18-month
strategy,
as
you
know,
creating
and
sharing
authentic
right,
that's
important,
positive
stories.
It's
not
propaganda.
It's
real
construction
on
imagine,
clear
water,
600
housing
units
and
a
hundred
million
dollars
of
investment,
I
balded
number
one,
because
without
number
one,
it's
gonna
be
very,
very
difficult
to
accomplish
the
rest
of
these.
We
always
have
to
stay
focused
on
the
first
result,
so
endure
creating
and
sharing
positive
stories
when
this
was
first
adopted,
those
top
boxes
that
complete
underway
and
proposed.
These
are
now
all
complete.
C
Today,
cuz
I
know
you've
seen
a
lot,
but
that's
an
important
part
of
that,
and
we've
also
got
our
new
focus
right
in
the
permitting
Department
on
on
downtown
projects
and
as
far
as
signature
and
everyday
events
holiday
extravaganza
right,
those
the
first
time
we
had
a
major
winter
celebration
and
it's
coming
back
again
and
I'm
so
excited
that
special
events
has
really
taken
the
lead
on
that
with
new
ideas
and
and
implementing
some
new
programs
there.
So
this
month
we
had
25
media
mentions
no.
Before
is
in
the
news
again
for
their
continued
growth.
C
Our
number
one
downtown
tech
company
AB
last
Friday
was
mentioned
as
a
budget-friendly
option
and
I
think
remember
noting
that
half
our
population
right
as
income
insecure
these
budget-friendly
options
are
really
important.
So
blasts
Friday
is
a
great
way
to
support
that.
Also
the
Capitol
Theater
received
award
another
major
city,
investment
in
capital
improvements
and
ongoing
and
children's
day
had
1500
attendees
this
year,
so
that
event
keeps
growing
as
well
really
unique
event
for
the
downtown
gateway
and
we'll
send
you
links
to
the
videos.
C
C
It's
very
it's
very,
very
impactful
and
I'll
show
you
some
more
examples
of
that
in
a
moment,
but
we
have
two
events
closing
out
on
June
22nd
will
be
our
arts
tech
showcase,
so
we're
partnering
with
the
library
we're
partnering,
with
USF
st.
Pete
to
show
some
augmented
reality.
Also,
a
virtual
escape
room
on
the
beach
is
coming
over
and
showcasing
some
tech
and
then
we're
having
an
event
with
Dahle
staff
and
some
Clearwater
CEO.
C
So
this
this
wall,
the
interactive
activity
right
now
in
second
century
Studios,
is
a
surrealist
self-portrait
right.
So
people
are
invited
to
draw
themselves
in
one
color
and
I,
as
I
was
looking
at
this
wall.
I
really
love
this,
because
it
points
out
that
we're
not
all
of
our
arts
program
is
not
arts
for
art's
sake
and
that's
fine
right,
that's
lovely,
but
we
are
doing
it
because
it's
advancing
our
strategy
and
our
strategy
is
changing
perception.
Alright.
C
So
if
you
look
at
this,
this
is
a
perfect
example
of
how
people
perceive
themselves
how
they
can
think
of
themselves
in
a
different
way.
And
then
we
have
these
little
cards
here,
and
it
says
you
know:
where
are
you
from
when?
Were
you
last
in
downtown
Clearwater?
Has
this
experience
change
your
perspective
of
downtown?
How
so
when
people
finish,
the
exhibit
they're
invited
to
fill
out
this
card
and
then
they're
placed
all
over
the
wall,
so
I
want
to
share
a
couple
of
those.
We
know
we
have
the
people
who
already
love
us
right.
C
If
you
think
of
a
bell
curve
of
a
spectrum,
it's
like
oh
I,
love
downtown
more
right,
so
that
wasn't
that
wasn't
a
hard
sell.
We
also
have
the
people
who
are
not
convinced
they
might
not
ever
be
convinced
right.
Did
this
change
your
perception?
No
now
maybe
they
already
thought
it
was
great.
That's
why
they
put
no,
but
in
full
transparency
to
show
you
their
range.
Then
we
have
things
like
this
nice
to
see
some
of
the
shops
I
wouldn't
walked
in
without
this,
and
that's
the
sweet
spot
for
us
right.
C
This
is
the
person
that
we're
trying
to
reach.
You
have
a
free,
high-quality
experience,
it's
engaging
and
you
think
let
me
try
something
else
that
haven't
tried
before
in
downtown
then.
Finally,
a
visitor
from
France
downtown
is
consistently
evolving
into
a
great
place
to
live
and
play,
and
we
know
that
a
good
majority
of
our
population
visitors
to
downtown
are
tourists,
and
so
so
this
is
another
outcome
that
we
love
to
see
that
they
believe
it's
evolving
and
becoming
better
and
better
a
great
place
to
live
in
play.
C
So
another
important
part
of
this
exhibit
is
supporting
local
businesses.
So
this
is
a
card
here
that
everyone
can
take
when
they're
finished
and
it
gets
them
discounts
that
over
ten
restaurants
and
retail
stores,
we've
been
having
targeted
meetings
with
local
companies
and
community
groups
in
the
space
and
we've
been
hosting
private
events.
C
C
What's
next
is
we'll
have
a
mixture
of
art,
exhibitions
and
retail
experiences
through
the
end
of
the
year,
and
then
our
goal
is
that
that
space
is
leased
right
to
a
private
business
that
can
provide
that
they
can
worry
about
the
doors
being
open
and
providing
services
right,
and
we
can
move
on
to
our
next
project
permitting
I
just
want
to
thank
Allah
and
our
planning
department.
She
has
started
a
new
site
plan
review
process
for
zoning
in
the
downtown
zoning
district
in
u.s.
19.
C
You
know
nothing's,
surprising,
they're,
beginning
construction
on
imagine
Clearwater
again,
it
might
not
feel
like
it
when
you're
in
it
every
day,
but
you
have
completed
a
lot.
I
really
want
to
highlight.
Harbor
View
is
down
it's
gorgeous,
loving
that
view
really
exciting
and
I,
don't
want
to
steal,
Michaels,
thunder
I'm
sure
he
has
many
more
updates
on
what's
next
here.
I
do
briefly
want
to
touch
on
the
parking
issue,
since
I
feel
a
little
bit
responsible
that
that
was
under
under
my
care
prior
to
leaving.
So
why
did
we
do
a
parking
study?
C
C
Right
because
we
were
being
asked
well,
what
happens
when
those
surface
parking
lots
by
the
water
go
away,
does
downtown
even
need
more
public
parking,
and
if
we're
gonna
continue
to
ask
high
tech
companies
to
come
in
that,
we
know
require
more
parking
per
square
foot
than
other
office
uses.
How
do
we
need
to
be
involved
in
that?
If
we're
going
to
continue
to
attract
those
kind
of
uses
and
then
what
our
public
options
right
for
supporting
retail
and
restaurant
uses,
because
we
control
the
public
part
right?
C
We
don't
control
the
the
private
part
and
if
we
do
pill
build
parking,
where
should
it
go
and
how
many
spaces
are
needed,
so
this
was.
This
was
really
the
focus
of
this
study
and
our
findings.
You
know-
and
this
will
come
as
no
surprise
to
you
right
peak
demand-
is
during
weekday
afternoon
we
have
a
surplus
of
2,800
parking
spaces,
public
parking
spaces
on
evenings
and
weekends.
If
we
continue
with
current
trends
right,
the
housing
build-out
the
office
occupancy,
the
retail
and
restaurant
build-out.
We're
gonna
need
500
spaces
within
the
next
ten
years.
Right.
C
That
coincides
with
the
disappearance
of
the
surface
parking
lots
as
imagine
clear
waters,
reconstructed
and
then,
when
we
start
having
events
over
5,000
attendees,
we
really
need
a
transportation
management
plan.
Now
again,
this
is
all
couched
in
access
to
public
parking,
that
city
and
county
parking
right.
This
is
not
taking
into
account
what
private,
after
right,
in
the
private
markets,
doing
so
immediate
recommendations,
and
this
would
be
the
the
parking
department
in
engineering
that
would
be
implementing
these
right,
that
the
CRA
is
working
with
parking
and
engineering,
update
parking
notification
and
pay
technology.
C
Keep
public
parking
within
two
blocks
of
Cleveland
Street
open
to
the
public,
just
want
to
pause
here
for
a
moment
and
understand
that
there
are
competing
interest
right.
The
parking
within
two
blocks
of
Cleveland
Street.
There
are
some
office
users
who
want
to
reserve
that
there's
a
retail
and
restaurant
who
wants
access
to
that.
You
know
our
recommendation
is
from
what
we've
heard
right
and
seen
is:
let's
keep
public
parking
public
right,
so
we
can
deal
with
the
ebb
and
flow
of
our
visitors
to
our
retail
and
restaurants.
C
That's
the
CRA
perspective
and
we
should
consider
a
new
public
parking
at
one
of
the
three
sites
identified
in
the
study.
And
so,
if
you
look
here,
there's
three
sites
and
some
of
those
are
under
consideration
for
the
city
County
shared
facility
right,
the
one
at
the
top
two
is
owned
by
a
private
property
owner.
The
city
has
one
small
lot
in
there,
but
could
be
a
potential
mixed-use
office
type
development.
C
C
Some
short-term
options
and
I
want
to
be
really
clear
that
we
are
empathetic
and
we
do
want
to
work
towards
providing
short-term
options,
because
we
know
that
just
building
public
parking
wealth
in
the
future
is
not
enough.
I
think
we
need
to
prioritize
curb
space,
downtown
for
valet,
uber
and
other
drop-off
type
options.
We
need
to
work
to
get
retail
and
restaurant
employees
who
now
Park
you
know
furlough
City
Hall
or
we're
parking
by
Harbor
View,
some
some
guaranteed
parking.
That's
a
stable
population
right
that
we
can.
C
Are
there
any
questions
before
I
move
on
okay,
so
permitting
600
housing
units?
This
is
probably
the
scariest
focus
area
and
I'll,
be
honest.
I,
don't
know
that
we're
gonna
get
600
housing
units
permitted
in
nine
months,
even
though
I'm
gonna
continue
to
try
maybe
at
least
in
the
planning
stages.
But
under
this
I'll
be
bringing
to
you
next
month
proposal
for
the
MLK
warehouse
site.
C
We
have
a
brewery
proposal
for
that,
we'll
also
be
bringing
to
you
a
funding
request
for
streetscape
and
facade
enhancements
for
1,100
Apex,
and
they
have
two
restaurants
secured
in
their
space.
We
issued
two
RFPs
for
rental
housing
on
two
Lots
that
the
CRA
owns
and
what
we
learned
is
30
days
is
not
enough
time.
It's
not
enough
time
to
receive
quality
proposals
or
enough
proposals.
C
We
have
an
architect
hired
for
the
mikado
project
and,
as
you
know,
you've
issued
several
grants
for
food
and
drink
tenants
and
property
owner
and
appreciate
the
extension
of
the
property
owner
food
and
drink
grant
through
September
30th.
So
we
are
still
working
and
very
focused
on
attracting
that
that
four
to
seven
new
restaurants
and
bars
all
right
private
investment.
So
again
this
this
is
all
leading
up
to
increase
private
investment
right
and
we
want
to
match
the
millions
of
dollars
that
the
city
has
and
will
continue
to
put
into
the
downtown.
C
So
the
state
opportunity
investment
fund
remember,
these
were
created
back
in
early
2018.
New
regulations
were
released
a
month
ago
and
we're
meeting
with
investors
were
working
with
Pinellas
to
make
sure
that
we
are
investors
who
create
those
funds,
know
what
to
do
and
how
to
use
them
and
I
have
an
asterisks
here
in
their
County
TIF
renewal.
C
Even
though
this
is
public
money,
it
can't
be
understated
how
important
it
is
that
the
county
extended
our
tip
for
15
years,
without
restrictions
right
without
any
new
restrictions,
and
that
is
a
minimum
of
1.5
million
dollars
a
year.
That's
coming
into
our
CRA
that
can
be
spent
on
capital
improvements
and
they
haven't
done
that
for
every
single
CRA
and
the
reason
we
were
successful
was
one.
C
You
spent
the
money
correctly
right
when
we
go
back
RCRA,
we've
done
a
really
good
job
of
spending
County
money
within
the
guidelines
that
they
provided
and
two,
if
you
remember,
we
adopted
chapter
four
right,
so
we
aren't
showing
up,
saying:
hey,
give
us
more
money,
but
we
don't
have
a
plan
for
how
we're
gonna
spend
it
right.
We
had
a
really
well-thought-out
5-year
plan
of
projects
and
improvements
that
we
could
point
to
how
their
funds
were
going
to
be
invested.
C
And
the
bulk
of
my
time,
you
know
in
the
remaining
nine
months
is
really
spent
on
attracting
this
investment
right
in
working
with
Michael
Duncan
with
the
city
attorney,
and
they
can
write
so
that
we
can
and
Denise
write
so
that
we
can
really
attract
this
private
investment.
The
land
transferring
from
the
city
to
the
CRA
will
help
us
in
this
LOI
process
and
then
we're
doing
new
targeted
advertisements
invest
Tampa
Bay.
C
C
So
just
in
closing
remember
this.
This
is
what
we
want
to
hear
at
the
end.
How
we
know
we've
achieved
success
in
March
of
2020
right.
We
know
that
our
construction
process
is
predictable
right.
We
know
that
we
continue
to
engage
the
community
through
events,
even
through
construction
of
the
to
clear
water
right,
there's
something
cultural.
C
Every
day
of
the
week
right,
you
can
have
a
cold,
it's
a
great
place
to
live
right
because
we
have
those
restaurants
and
pubs
with
an
easy
walking
distance
and
we
really
focus
on
quality
of
life
and
just
two
last
points
that
I'll
make
related
to
the
environmental.
We
are
thinking
about
that
constantly
and
we're
working
with
Duke
to
put
in
electric
charging
stations
throughout
properties
in
downtown.
We
also
haven't
had
a
chance
to
take
advantage
of
the
pace,
translation
right.
So
we
have
these
older
buildings
as
they're
renovated
and
environmentally
sustainable
ways.
E
E
The
the
things
that
I've
heard
over
and
over
I'll
give
you
one,
for
instance,
and
you
did
talk
about
it
in
your
presentation
this
weekend,
I
was
downtown.
A
lot.
I
was
on
phone
Friday
and
Saturday
and
I
park
in
the
Garden
Street
Garage.
Both
days
I
was
there
somebody
passed
me:
can
we
park
in
here,
regardless
of
the
big
sign
outside
irregardless
of
the
new
peace
signs
downtown?
E
A
little
there
are
apps
out
there
that
that
can
identify,
ok,
Garden
Street
Garage
has
this
many
available,
because
that's
a
lot
of
that
population,
their
app
application
savvy.
They
can
just
go
on
their
phone
and
go
parking
downtown
and
they
should
be
able
to
go
in
this
available
to
see
County
garage
garden
drives
the
different
available.
E
In
addition
to
that,
continue
to
pursue
those
relationships
with
private
property
owners
for
the
short
term
solution,
because
that's
that's
what
I'm
hearing
at
least
over
and
over
and
over,
where
there's
a
problem
and
so
I
think
we
do
have
solutions,
but
we
just
need
to
communicate
that
continually.
So
thank
you.
F
The
landlord
tenant
program
was
only
partly
successful
and
I'm
wondering
do
you
have
any
plans
for
the
rest
of
the
year
to
try
to
use
those
funds
that
three-quarters
of
which
have
not
been
used
to
attract
tenants,
and
are
you
thinking
about
a
different
program
than
the
one
you
had
last
year?
Maybe
it
would
attract
so.
C
C
So
I
I,
we're
on
that
today,
is
I
like
to
get
that
completed
before
launching
another
program.
Just
because
one
thing
that
we've
learned
during
this
process
is
how
much
work
it
takes
to
get
a
tenant
through
the
door.
Right
and
property
owners
are
hiring
brokers
right,
they're
doing
some
limited
advertising,
but
it's
really
gonna
take
our
staff
time
to
to
help
get
those
tenants
in
place
in
this
point,
right
now
with
the
number
of
staff
that
we
have
it's
very
hard
for
us
to
promote
two
separate
programs
at
once
right.
So
we
have.
C
We
have
all
those
property
owner
spaces
that
we
need
to
find
tenants
for,
and
the
tenants
benefit
right
from
those
improvements.
It's
not
just
benefiting
the
property
owners
right.
It's
reducing
the
tenants
cost
that
they
would
have
to
spend
to
build
out
this
space
but
I
as
soon
as
you
know,
and
we're
I'm
always
thinking
about
all
these
things
right.
But
you
know
that
it's
a
really
a
30
to
60
day
cycle,
to
create
a
new
program
and
to
get
it
adopted.
F
C
Not
you
know,
and
we
would
have
to
I
mean
it
depends
on
how
we
define
success.
Okay,
currently
we
have
three
requests
that
have
come
through
one.
We
responded
back
and
said:
hey.
We
want
to
explore
more,
send
us
information,
we're
waiting
on
more
detailed
information,
another
one
apex,
1100
you'll,
hear
next
month
right
and
then
I
just
received
a
third
one,
probably
two
weeks
ago
for
another
brewery
space
right
that
we're
meeting
with
in
I
believe
this
week.
So
you
know
it,
it
kind
of
depends
on
how
we
want
to
define
success.
C
F
C
C
I
think
if
we
really
focus
on
those
spaces,
I
think
they're
gonna
make
it
I.
Remember
our
challenge.
Is
the
purse
we're
back
to
the
perception
issue
right
and
there's
two
things
that
make
this
a
risky
perceived
risk
ii,
environment
for
restaurants,
one
lack
of
foot
traffic
right,
they
come
down
and
they
say
up.
I
don't
have
enough
people.
I
can't
count
on
people
walking
by
right,
so
I'm
gonna
have
to
be
a
bit
focused.
C
I
think
this
is
diminishing,
but
there
were
concerns
around
the
permitting
process
right,
the
perception
of
the
permitting
process
and
three
the
cost
of
build-out.
So
far
we
attract
tenants
that
do
not
have
a
lot
of
capital
in
the
past.
That's
what
we've
attracted
right,
they've
needed
a
lot
of
money,
a
lot
of
investment
from
the
outside
in
order
to
open
their
business.
So
with
the
events
that
we're
doing
right
with
showing
progress
on,
imagine,
clear
water
and
you
know
they're
starting
to
see
tangible
improvements.
Okay,
the
risk
is
lessening
right.
C
We
can
invest
and
then
with
a
property
owners
guaranteeing
right.
They
have.
This
can't
grant
money
guaranteed
improvements
in
hand.
That
also
lessens
the
risk
for
tenants.
You
know
it's
it's
it's
just
tough
right.
Opening
new
restaurants
and
retail
is
extremely
difficult
right
because
it's
aren't
risky
and
our
job
is
to
be
consistent
and
committed
and
reduce
that
risk.
So
I
think
if
we
stay
committed
right
and
we
really
push
these
grants
that
we've
given,
then
we're
gonna
be
successful.
C
I
think
if
we
throw
in
another
program
too
soon
it
becomes
confusing
right
because
then
it's
like,
because
the
first
question
I
get
is
well
what
spaces
are
available
right
and
then.
The
second
question
is:
how
much
money
would
you
like
to
give
me?
So
we
know
what
our
spaces
are.
We
can
push
those
and
find
the
right
match.
You
know
hope
that
owner
find
the
right
match.
Thank.
G
C
I
mean
Ann
Fogerty
France
has
been
in
constant
contact
with
them
and,
as
you
may
know
now
she
is
retiring
in
July,
which
is
a
huge
loss
for
us.
We're
very
sad
about
that.
But
that's
we
will
continue
to
do
that,
so
we're
following
up
in
two
ways:
not
only
meeting
and
calling
within
regularly
to
say
who
are
you
meeting
with
what
information
do
you
need?
How
can
we
help
write
traffic
numbers,
population
numbers
income
numbers
that
data
we
can
provide
we're
also
keeping
in
touch
with
the
permitting
office.
C
Kevin
Garriott
has
been
wonderful
in
giving
us
updates
every
time
we
ask.
Where
are
we
with
permitting?
Where
are
we
with
inspections
so
that,
if
there's
a
holdup
we
can
reach
out
to
the
owner
and
say
hey,
we
notice,
you
haven't
picked
up
your
plans
that
have
been
approved
or
there
hasn't
been
an
inspection
in
a
while.
So
those
are
the
two
ways
that
we're
communicating
to
try
to
push
the
process
along
I.
G
Guess
what
I'm
asking
is
the
five
that
we've
extended
to
September
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
still
interested
or
how
many
and
I'd
like
that
you
have
you
bring
that
to
us
next
CRA
meeting
to
say:
we've
got
one
that's
following
forward.
The
other
four
seem
to
drop
out
I'd
like
to
know
what
that
that
is.
So
we
still
have
interest
from
all
five
of
them.
That
was
the
kind
of
I
think
our
concern
was
given
them
the
time,
thinking
that
they
would
be
viable.
G
D
Mister,
hello
and
I
guess:
I've
made
the
comment
before
and
I.
Don't
think,
there's
anybody
in
this
room
that
can
answer
the
question,
but
I
think
that
the
the
real
you
know
it's
almost
like
a
game
of
dominoes.
The
first
domino
we
need
to
fall
is
commitment,
one
way
or
the
other
from
the
county
on
whether
or
not
we're
doing
a
joint
facility,
because
that
will
then
begin
a
lot
of
wheels
to
turn,
hopefully
in
a
positive
direction.
D
Hopefully,
the
county
is
interested
because
I
think
that
that
really
moves
the
needle
for
us
to
make
a
commitment
on
where
we're
gonna
put
more
parking
for
downtown
that
can
serve
our
needs,
as
well
as
the
downtown
merchants
and
and
offices
and
I.
Think
like
is
that
that's
the
big
one
and
nobody
in
this
room
right
now
knows
what
the
county's
gonna
say
for
sure
or
what
their
commitment
is.
So
we're
kind
of
waiting
on
that.
But
you
know
things
are
definitely
moving
in
the
right
direction.
D
I
know
you
know,
I
hear
a
lot
of
people.
Tell
me
you
know
the
permitting
I
think
I
think
our
permitting
Department
does
a
pretty
good
job.
I
think
the
only
people
that
most
of
the
people
that
don't
think
our
permitting
Department
do.
The
good
job
is
because
they're
not
allowing
them
just
to
come
in
and
say
here's
what
I
want
to
do
and
walk
out
with
permit.
D
A
Miss
Thompson
to
open
up
an
old
wound.
We
were
criticized
that
we
haven't
reached
out
to
the
Downtown
Partnership
to
tell
them
where
we
need
help
well.
In
my
opinion,
this
these
are
areas
where
the
Downtown,
Partnership
and
other
investors
in
downtown
should
also
be
reaching
out
to
these
people,
who
are
have
their
applications
pending
to
say,
hey.
This
is
something
that's
worthwhile,
and
this
is
why
we're
in
downtown
this
is
why
we're
the
Downtown
Partnership.
A
So
maybe
we
need
to
let
the
Downtown
Partnership
know
who
these
applicants
are
to
see
if
they
can
encourage
them
to
supporting
downtown
and
investing
in
downtown.
So
I
would
encourage
you
to
let
the
Downtown
Partnership,
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
the
Merchants
Association,
and
all
these
groups
that
you
keep
waiting
for
the
city.
You
know
here's
your
opportunity
to
do
what
your
function
is.
H
E
Well,
I
mean
there
are
six
applicants
how
many
of
our
with
very
large
restaurant
retail
spaces
in
downtown
gonna
be
signature
spots.
Taxpayers
are
willing.
City
of
Clearwater
is
willing
to
give
them
incentive
money
up
to
$250,000
to
build
out
their
space.
Those
are
new
spaces.
Those
aren't
like
the
old
spaces
that
are
falling
around
downtown,
so
what
I
would
expect
to
hear
from
those
property
owners
that
have
applied
for
this
grant
is
we
are
still
aggressively
looking
for
a
tenant,
we've
we've
done
our
part.
By
setting
this
program
up.
E
I
would
like
to
hear
from
the
investors
and
to
piggyback
off
what
the
mayor
said.
Yeah
the
partnership,
the
chamber,
the
Merchants
Association
every
one
of
them
should
be
motivating
talking
to
those
property
owners.
Everyone
I'll
call
every
one
of
them
out
go
find
a
tenant
because
we
gave
you
six
months.
Okay,
I
was
a
fan
of
incentivizing
tenants
as
well,
because
we
are
a
tough
market.
That
was
not
what
my
colleagues
decided.
We
wanted
to
give
the
property
owners
another
six
months.
E
Okay,
so
now
everybody
that's
what
I
want
to
hear
from
those
property
owners
is.
We
are
aggressively
trying
don't
come
back
and
ask
us
for
anything
else.
We're
talking
about
problems
for
parking
solutions,
go
find
a
tenant.
Okay,
we're
we're
getting
ready.
I'm
gonna
bring
up
something
later
at
the
council
meeting.
We
are
moving
forward
with
imagine
Clearwater
drove
past.
It's
incredible.
It
looks
great,
it
shows
progress.
So
that's
what
I
want
to
hear.
F
I'd
like
to
know
from
the
investors
what
kind
of
work
they're
doing
to
try
to
find
the
tenants
and
then
why
the
tenants,
at
least
to
this
point,
are
saying,
though,
what
expectations
to
the
tenants
have
that
they
told
the
investors
that
keeps
them.
You
know
from
accepting.
You
know
coming
to
an
agreement.
G
Yeah
I
think
what
each
one
of
you
said:
I
mirror
that
the
Mayor
was
spot
on
with
getting
other
organizations
which
we
have
a
lot
of
them
downtown,
and
these
are
stakeholders
of
invested
money
in
downtown
and
their
interest
is
to
keep,
is
to
bring
in
people
and
make
downtown
vibrant
they're,
the
ones
that
have
the
most
really
to
lose
because
they've
already
invested
so
that's
great
and
what
mr.
Pogue
Leigh
said
is
spot-on.
G
We
just
need
to
I
need
to
feel
like
there's
something
being
done.
Instead
of
let's
wait
till
September
and
see
what
happens
so,
I
think
any
kind
of
a
feedback
we
can
get
I
mean
it's
a
great
offer.
It's
a
great
program.
We
decided
to
extend
it
so
I'd
like
to
get
updated
to
see
if
things
are
moving
in
the
right
direction.
G
D
Don't
want
to
just
reiterate
what
specific
I
mean
again.
You
know
the
program
is
good
through
September,
but
that
doesn't
mean
at
the
last
meeting
in
September
is
when
we
want
to
approve
all
this
I'd
be
happy
to
approve
something
at
the
next
meeting
or
in
the
July
meeting
we'll
be
here
at
the
next
meeting,
but
I
wouldn't
I'm
eating.
D
But
you
know
it
comes
out
as
I've
said
many
times
before
it,
you
got
to
spend
money
to
make
money
and
we've
offered
we're
trying
to
incentivize
that
because
and
the
example
we
always
bring
up
clear
sky
downtown
mister
shovel.
When
you
invest
in
a
property
and
you
build
and
a
restaurant
or
a
you
know,
an
operation
that
looks
you
know
the
quality
of
that
restaurant
and
the
the
food
is
the
quality
of
that
restaurant
you're
gonna
get
clientele.
D
People
are
going
to
come
there
and
if
we
can
get
people
to
see
that
and
say
you
know
what
I'm
gonna
do
the
same
thing.
Maybe
not
do
this
she's
got
to
serve
the
same
food,
but
you
know
I'm
gonna,
invest
in
my
property,
I'm
gonna,
invest
in
my
business
and
build
that
situation.
All
sudden,
you
get
three
four
five.
Six
of
those
all
of
a
sudden.
You
got
people
want
to
come
down.
D
It's
like
you
know
what
I'm
gonna
go
downtown
and
if
this
one's
busy
I'll
go
to
the
next
one,
if
that
one's
too
busy
I'll
go
to
the
next
one,
but-
and
you
know
just
you'll
see
you
get
everything
works
together
and
I.
That's
what
we're
trying
that's,
what
we're
trying
to
get
to
and
we're
just
we
need.
Some
people
to
you
know,
take.
A
Those
chances
to
build
on
that
just
for
a
second,
you
know
we
keep
talking
about
clear
sky,
but
we
forget
the
Puerto
Rican
restaurant.
Oh,
that
has
been
here
for
two
three
years
yeah
you
know,
and
there
is
another
classic
example
of
someone
who's
come
in.
Basically
on
his
own,
you
know,
without
any
incentives
from
the
city
for
the
most
part
and
and
been
successful,
I
don't
want
us
to
be
in
position.
Well,
okay,
if
this
program
doesn't
you
know
this?
Isn't
an
airline,
that's
overbooked
and
we
make
an
offer.
A
Okay,
if
you
give
us
a
your
seat,
we'll
give
you
$300.
So
then
five
minutes
later
I,
like
you,
you
know
we're
still
overbooked.
Well,
now
we're
gonna
op
it
to
$500.
You
know
to
try
to
get
people
to
give
up
their
seats.
I
don't
want
us
to
say
look
this
program
doesn't
work,
we're
going
to
turn
around
and
give
more
money
than
next
time,
because
if
that's
the
case,
we're
never
gonna
get
anything
done
and
I
also
think
we
need
to
be
careful
that
we're
not
negotiating
between
the
property
owner
and
the
prospective
landlord.
A
C
To
these
points,
remember
the
focus
groups
that
we
did
last
summer
of
attendance
and
property
owners
and
the
surveys
and
in
two
findings
that
came
out.
That
really
surprised
me
one.
They
said
the
best
thing
you
can
do
is
increase
foot
traffic.
That's
it
they're,
like
don't
even
give
us
money,
spend
all
the
money
on
increasing
foot
traffic
and
when
I
said
this
by
right,
because
we
know
upfront
costs
are
so
expensive
because
they
said
the
amount
of
money
that
you're
going
to
give
us
will
open
our
door
or
get
us
through
year
one.
C
But
what
do
we
do
year?
Two
three,
four
five,
and
if
we
don't
have
the
foot
traffic
to
support
year,
two
three
four
five,
then
we're
only
open
for
a
year,
so
I
think
we
have
found
a
balance
right
between
helping
reduce
those
barriers
right
and
reduce
that
risk.
But
we
are
also
again
hyper
focused
right
on
upping
foot
traffic
and
all
the
ways
that
we
can
short-term
right
through
events
through
arts
through
those
experiences
and
long
term
through
building
housing.
G
D
Okay,
my
comments
are
in
regards
to
the
comments
made
during
citizens
to
be
heard.
I
don't
disagree
with
anything
with
almost
with
almost
anything.
She
said
because
I,
we
are
everybody
sitting
up
here,
we're
here,
because
we
love
clear
water
and
we're
doing
what
we
think
makes
clear
water
a
better
place,
but
I
think
the
two
points
that
need
to
be
remembered
are
number
one:
property
owners
have
rights
as
well,
if
you
own
peace
property
and
it's
zoned
a
certain
way.
D
You
have
rights
on
on
that
property
that
no
more,
but
the
part
that
got
mean
gets
me
and
I.
Don't
appreciate,
is
to
arbitrarily
say,
there's
a
connection
between
one
of
us
and
the
property
owner
and
that's
why
they're
getting
the
ability
to
do
something
I
can
promise
you
I
have
nothing
to
do
with
the
owner
of
that
property.
A
Thank
You
mr.
Hamilton,
the
other
point
that
I
think
we
need
to
keep
in
mind
is
it.
These
are
public
meetings,
the
citizens
can
say
whatever
they
want,
but
it's
not
a
political
forum.
It's
not
a
place
for
you
to
come,
or
it
should
not
be
a
place
for
you
to
come
and
make
your
political
campaign
statement,
and
if
we
were
to
do
that,
we
would
be
here
all
night
listening
to
candidates
wanting
to
run
for
office,
giving
us
their
statements
as
to
what's
going
on,
and
we
are
not
doing
this.
A
And
that
was
why
I
made
my
comments
earlier.
So
I
appreciate
that
mr.
Hornby,
you
had
stepped
out
I,
don't
know
if
we
had
answered
your
questions
but
satisfactory,
miss
Thompson.
Do
you
have
anything
further
for
the
CRA
okay,
we
will
adjourn
the
CRA
and
convene
the
work
session
for
June.
The
third
agenda
item
3.1
approve.
I
Mayor
council
departments
asking
for
comfortable
to
enter
into
a
new
mutual
aid
agreement
with
Florida
coroner
Department
of
law
enforcement
related
to
the
electronic
surveillance
and
support
team.
We've
been
operating
under
the
originally
signed
agreement
from
2015,
and
this
would
just
be
for
a
lack
of
a
better
term,
an
extension
of
that
agreement.
But
under
the
new
agreement
with
no
substantive
changes,
any.
I
Has
nothing
to
do
with
that's,
not
the
army,
so
there's
absolutely
nothing
to
do
with
that.
You
confuse
me
a
little
bit
there.
So
essentially,
there
are
several
types
of
surveillance:
there's:
human
intelligence.
There
is
open-source
and
there's
electronic
surveillance
that
would
include
audio-video
things
of
that
nature.
This
Agreement
also
provides
for
the
ability
for
us
to
seek
support
from
FDLE
to
enhance
video
audio
things
of
that
nature.
I
J
Morning,
mayor
council,
here
to
present
this
moratorium
for
180
days
on
micro
mobility
devices.
You
probably
are
familiar
from
some
stories.
You've
heard
about
the
boom
in
these
motorized
scooters
that
are
happening
across
the
nation
last
few
years
and
the
Florida
Legislature
in
their
wisdom,
passed
a
House
bill
453,
which
basically
designates
scooters.
J
Electronic
motorized
scooters,
it's
micro,
mobility,
advices
that
cannot
go
in
excess
of
20
miles
per
hour
and
providing
those
with
the
rights
and
responsibilities
of
bicycles
and
bicyclists
that
opens
up.
While
we
were
under
the
city
managers
direction,
we
had
formed
a
interdepartmental
committee,
late
last
fall
because
we
were
starting
to
hear
the
the
companies
coming
and
presenting
to
us
and
asking
what
our
regulations
were.
We
put
that
committee
in
abeyance
when
we
heard
this
legislative
action
taking
place
to
see
what
the
outcome
was
and
we
found
out.
J
The
outcome
was
well
they're
allowed
to
go
everywhere.
The
bicycles
are
on
roads
on
sidewalks
and
such
so,
while
the
legislation
is
pending
the
governor
signature
or
the
passage
of
the
expiration
time
where
it
goes
into
law,
we
thought
it
was
prudent
to
come
to
you
and
ask
for
a
moratorium.
While
we
develop
a
program
for
two
reasons
we
need
to
regulate
world,
we
propose
to
regulate
the
use
in
the
future
and
also
the
operators,
the
businesses,
we
don't
have
regulations
really
specific
for
these
types
of
uses
or
operations
at
this
time.
J
One
is,
you
cannot
use
them.
You
know
motorized
devices
on
sidewalks
and
they're
not
registered,
so
you
can't
use
them
in
the
roads.
Unfortunately,
this
legislation
seems
to
allow
them
to
be
used
in
both
locations
and
it
leaves
open
to
local
jurisdictions
the
ability
to
regulate
them.
So
that's
why
we're
proposing
the
moratorium
to
give
the
city
staff
time
to
create
a
program
and
regulations
to
bring
back
to
this
council
for
your
review
and
direction
any.
F
J
I
do
not
believe
we
would
need
the
entire
six
months,
because
there
are
so
many
other
jurisdictions,
but
they
have
done
it
in
a
variety
of
ways
they
have
put
in
pilot
programs,
then
pull
back
the
programs
and
then
rewritten
the
regulations,
but
hopefully
we
would
be
able
to
get
back
within
four
to
five
months.
You
know
not
the
full
six
months
because
we
don't
want
to
have
the
deadline
come
up
and
we're
just
bringing
that
to
you.
So
that's
a
very
good
point
tax
revenues
right
now.
J
J
G
It's
just
interesting
because
I'm
the
MPO
guy
on
the
Borbon,
the
council
here
but
I,
think
the
thing
that
we
have
to
concern
about
is
the
safety
issue,
because
I've
heard
stories
and
other
communities.
So
my
question
would
be
during
this
time
that
were
we've.
Have
this
moratorium
you're
gonna
develop
safety,
some
kind
of
safety
program
for
this,
so
they're
not
piled
up
in
the
middle
of
sidewalks
and
knocking
people
over
so.
J
I
think
yes
councilman,
that
is
the
most
important
aspect
of
this
whole
thing
is
the
safety
issue,
whether
they're
left
just
on
sidewalks
blocking
them
docking
locations,
but
the
speed
we
can.
One
of
the
regulations
has
been
developed
in
most
of
the
programs.
Is
you
define
what
the
maximum
speed
is?
You
also
do
a
geo
sensing
type
thing
where
they
have
a
GPS
device
that
they
cannot
go
outside
of
certain
areas.
So
there's
all
sorts
of
regulations.
Do
you
want
to
have
parking
hubs
where
they're
required
to
be
left?
J
You
know
you
develop
learning
your
operator,
you
need
somebody
local
who
can
quickly
act
on
this
and
what
are
some
of
the
penalties
or
some
of
the
guidance
that
is
provided
to
to
not
only
the
user
but
also
to
the
operator,
and
there
are
responsibilities.
So,
yes,
safety
is
a
key
issue
on
this.
Thank
you,
yeah.
D
I
think
I
mean
we've
already
in
in
the
last
week
or
so
in
the
paper
about
you
know
everything
going
on
in
Tampa
Tampa,
it's
just
rolling
out
and
tamping
they're
already
noticing.
Oh
well,
this
isn't
being
done
the
way
supposed
to
be
done,
and
this
isn't
happening.
We're
gonna
run
into
that
same
thing
and
I
mean
it's.
You
know
Safety's
the
the
big
thing
and
you
know,
but
for
me
I'm
one
of
those
who
I
I
look
at
and
I
say
this.
D
Lady
right
here
is
gonna
get
a
lot
busier
when
we
start
doing
stuff
like
this,
because
you
know
it's
it's
it's
just
the
way
it
is
that
society
is
today.
Somebody's
gonna
come
out
of
one
of
the
establishments
in
downtown.
After
having
probably
you
know,
one
or
two
too
many
and
they're
gonna
get
on
one
of
these
and
they're
gonna
be
going
down.
They're
gonna
fall
and
they're
gonna
get
hurt.
Well,
are
they
gonna
take
responsibility
for
themselves
because
they
know
hey
they're
gonna
go
back
and
they're
gonna
say
the
the
place
I
have
consumed.
D
My
alcohol
should
to
let
me
drink.
Then
they're
gonna
go
to
the
the
company
of
the
scooters
and
say
you
shouldn't.
Let
me
be
on
one
life
in
that
condition
and
then
third
you're
gonna
come
out
to
the
city,
because
the
city
allows
them
to
operate.
They're
gonna,
you
know
it's
like
because
nobody
takes
personal
responsibility.
I'm,
sorry,
there's
nothing!
It's
one
of
the
probably
the
most.
D
You
know
the
the
one
mode
of
transportation
where
you
are
absolutely
responsible
for
what
it
you
know.
What
occurs
why
you're
on
it
I
mean
it's
just
you
in
this
little
two
wheels.
That's
it
I
mean
it
just.
You
know
what
Tampa's
doing
I'm
more
than
comfortable
waiting
108
180
days
to
kind
of
let
the
let
the
dust
settle
in
Tampa
and
see
where
they
go
with
it,
because
I
I
least
think
to
scare
the
heck
out
of
me
personally,
and
you
know
cuz
then
out
on
Clearwater
Beach
as
busy
as
we
are
out
there.
A
A
How
would
I
mean?
How
do
you
control
the
safety
point?
I
mean
because
counsel
I'm
not
sure
if
I
had
to
relate
to
y'all
or
not
I
I
was
on
one
of
my
career
trips
in
Salt,
Lake,
City
and
I
almost
got
run
over
by
one,
because
the
the
person
on
it
just
decided
to
hop
off
and
the
scooter
just
continued
going.
J
There
is
I
mean
its
speed.
Let
me
address
a
couple
of
the
issues
that
have
been
raised
here.
What
most
of
the
jurisdictions
that
Lee
said,
I've,
followed
throughout
the
count
of
the
country,
have
to
introduce
pilot
programs
in
restricted
areas
for
a
temporary
basis.
Secondly,
you
can
control
the
speed,
so
you
can
I've
seen
as
low
as
eight
miles
an
hour
maximum
speed,
which
is
basically
a
casual
bicycle
rider
on
the
sidewalk
up
to
12,
even
up
to
15.
J
So
you
have
I
I,
don't
know
the
technical
term
for
I'm,
not
a
car
guy,
but
you
know
where
you
have.
The
car
motor
cannot
go
faster
than
a
certain
speed.
However,
what
is
it
governor?
Thank
you,
and
so
there
are
those
types
of
things,
and
the
third
thing
is
that
there's
insurance
by
any
of
the
companies
that
are
providing
these
for
higher
high
levels
of
insurance
that
they
have
to
guarantee,
as
far
as
being
able
to
cover
liability
and
things
of
that
sort.
J
A
H
K
Porter
good
morning,
David,
Porter,
Public,
Utilities,
Director
and
in
front
of
you
this
morning
asked
if
to
prove
the
purchase
or
the
issuance
of
a
purchase
order
to
SNF
polygons,
which
is
the
company
that
we
utilized
to
provide
polymer
for
use
in
our
three
wastewater
treatment
plants.
Polymers
used
to
thicken,
sludges
bio
solids
generated
at
the
wastewater
plants
and
allows
them
to
be
deep
watered
so
that
we
can
more
economically
transport
and
dispose
of
the
waste
materials.
So
that
I'll
take
any
point.
D
K
Would
be
we
transport
the
solid
materials
to
be
used
as
a
soil
conditioner,
and
that
has
to
have
a
certain
consistency
in
order
to
be
able
to
be
used
for
that
process.
If
we
didn't
have
this,
if
we
didn't
deal
water
it
properly,
it
would
be
a
liquid
form
and
it
would
have
to
be
disposed
of
in
a
very
entirely
different
manner.
That
would
be
much
more
expensive,
so
we
transport
it
now
all
the
way
South
Florida
to.
A
K
K
We
deep
water
if
we
get
it
to
the
point
where
it's
about
20
percent
solids
and
80
percent
water.
It's
just
spongy.
Oh
it's
dry
enough
that
we
can
transport
it
over
the
highway
because
that's
about
as
good
as
you
can
get
using
conventional
mechanical
methods.
So
it
goes
over
the
highway
to
a
farmer's
land
and
then
it's
turned
into
or
disp
into
the
the
hay
fields
and
used
to
produce
hey
it's!
Actually,
the
farm
is
actually
quite
pretty
happy
with
it.
It
offsets
quite
a
bit
of
fertilizer
use.
K
K
Humans
and
I'm
not
sure
if
some
of
ours
is
being
used
for
sod
and
I,
don't
think
so.
Currently,
it's
being
used
for
hay,
it
is
able
to
be
used
for
sod
because
I
know
most
of
our
solid
comes
from
ourselves.
Well,
yeah!
It
is
able
to
be
used
with
sod
there.
Currently
the
sites
that
I'm
aware
of
it's
being
used
for
hay
consent.
H
Approve
the
purchase
of
a
2019
International
m/v
6:07,
with
main
tax
cm
190
crane
to
replace
g37
32
2011
freight
liner,
with
national
frame
for
the
pricing
terms
and
conditions
of
the
Florida
sheriffs
Association
contract,
FSA,
18,
Danis,
beh,
16.0,
specification,
13
and
accordance
with
section
two
point.
Five,
six
four
one
depo
to
coordinates
is
other
governmental
bid
authorized
lease
purchase
under
the
city's
master,
lease
purchase
agreement
or
internal
financing
via
and
inter
fund
law
from
the
capital
from
the
fund.
L
Good
morning
Perry
cons
and
sleep
manager,
please
requested
an
Iowa
cycle
replacement
on
the
cradling
truck
that
is
listed.
Crane
originally
was
installed
on
G
230
23:05,
which
was
totaled
in
2010.
It
was
then
transferred
to
G
373
to
a
2011
Freightliner.
The
crane
has
recently
failed
an
annual
inspection
and
cannot
be
repaired
due
to
the
fact
that
the
vendor
has
gone
out
of
business
and
parts
are
no
longer
available.
L
E
L
L
A
H
M
We've
chatted
the
last
week
or
two
about
kind
of
our
agenda.
What
we're
working
on
so
what
I
thought
I
would
do
is
just
kind
of
publicly
go
through
this
and
if
you've
got
any
questions,
we're
really
gearing
up
for
the
the
next
work
session
and
the
City
Council
meeting
the
week
of
the
17th.
So,
as
we've
discussed,
we
will
be
bringing
you
a
presentation
on
the
library
you
all
have
not
seen
that
yet.
M
M
I
have
contacted
some
consulting
assistants
who
will
work
under
our
Stantec
contract
with
her
imagine
clear
waters
and
systems
and
imagine
a
component
of
our
imagine
clear
water
project
to
assist
us
with
the
the
permitting
and
dealing
with
d-o-t
and
she
will
be
researching
some
lighting
systems,
some
other
examples
of
lighted
bridge
and
how
those
projects
are
managed.
So
we
should
have
have
that
project
underway
very
shortly.
Engineering
is
going
to
be
provided
the
scope
of
work,
which
we
have
already
developed
with
her
and
will
hopefully
be
able
to
get
Stantec
on
that
pretty
shortly.
M
The
as
we've
discussed
we're
still
working
on
taking
a
look
at
the
potential
revisions
to
the
phasing
program
for
the
magic
Clearwater
Park,
one
of
the
things
that
came
out
of
our
some
of
our
individual
meetings
with
you
with
some
interest
and
it
kind
of
an
all
a
carte
menu.
If
you
will
of
some
various
improvements,
and
so
we're
going
to
try
to
work
on
that.
M
The
objective,
of
course,
is
that
the
some
of
the
more
basic
key
and
significant
components
of
the
park
may
be
able
to
move
forward
sooner
rather
than
later,
to
try
to
help
in
doing
that.
We've
been
talking
with
engineering
about
getting
a
proposals
for
a
construction
manager
on
this
project,
who
can
kind
of
help
us
devise
ways
to
to
implement
speed
up
the
the
construction
process.
M
So
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
dive
into
that
a
little
deeper
with
the
consultants,
but
I
don't
want
that
to
to
impede
our
efforts
towards
permitting
construction
of
the
the
basic
green
space
of
the
park
and
the
entryway
plaza
so
that
that
kind
of
gets
to
our
phasing
in
the
the
a
la
carte
menu.
If
you
will,
the
I've
been
working
with
Pam
and
we've
gotten,
we've
been
chatting
with
our
original
consultants,
who
did
the
economic
analysis
for
imagine?
M
Two
years
stale,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
when
we
get
ready
to
issue
the
RFP
for
this,
the
Harborview
site
and
the
other
properties
that
we're
were
we're,
starting
with
the
basis
from
the
basis
of
current
economic
understanding
and
numbers
for
downtown's,
so
I
think
that
could
be
kind
of
important
when
we,
when
we
get
this
out
on
the
street
and
so
we're
we're
talking
with.
Actually
we
have
a
draft
from
HR
na
that
Pam
and
I
and
am
and
I'll
be
reviewing
the
the
other
thing.
M
Is:
we've
initiated
some
discussions
with
some
outside
assistance
to
take
a
look
at
the
adaptive
reuse,
potential
for
the
North
Ward
School,
the
City
Hall
station
and
fire
station
45
I.
Think
we'll
probably
I'll
save
this
for
our
later
discussion
on
the
menu
I.
Think
our
the
agenda
will
get
more
into
that
at
depth
with
the
council's
discussion
item
but
I
think
that's
a
beneficial
process
for
us
to
take
a
look
at
those
properties.
M
D
He's
gonna
make
the
presentation
to
me,
and
let
me
see
it
and
I
will
give
my
comments
to
the
city
manager
and
Michael
and
whatnot
so
I'm,
looking
forward
to
that,
but
I
think
it's
great
I
think
you
know
I'm
just
looking
forward
to
you
know,
making
a
few
decisions
and
getting
things
I.
Think
as
we
make
decisions
think
this
is
what
it's
gonna
be.
This
is
where
we're
moving
that
shows
progress
and
that's
I
think
that's
very
important.
G
A
Mr.
duck
clarify
something
for
me:
you
had
mentioned
doing
phases
and
doing
steps.
You
had
indicated
that
the
gateway
Plaza,
which
I
believe
originally
was
that
was
going
to
be
the
first
face,
so
you're
getting
ready
to
give
us
some
plans
for
the
20th
for
us
to
go
forward
to
approval
for
the
20th
on
the
gateway
Plaza
to
get
that
started.
So
it
doesn't
just
stay
in
it.
You
know.
M
Well,
what
I,
what
I
hope
to
do
is
to
and
we're
working
with
engineering,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we
want
to
hire
a
construction
manager
to
help
us,
but
we
what
I
would
like
for
us
to
do
is
to
be
in
a
position
where
we
can
build
what
has
been
discussed
as
phase
one
and
two
as
a
single
phase.
So,
basically
all
we
would
do.
M
We
would
construct
all
the
parks
out
of
the
garden
and
where
the
existing
amphitheater
is
and
then
we
would
come
back
and
finish
that
as
the
the
last
phase
I
think.
The
question
with
that
is:
what
do
we
do
with
the
major
structural
components
of
the
park?
And
so
that's
where
our
all-out
cart
and
our
phasing
are.
You
know
what
I
think
is
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
make
sure
we've
got
the
right
design
on
those
key
structures.
I,
don't
really
think
we're
there.
M
Actually,
that's
that's
been
the
the
subject
of
a
very
specific
meeting
that
we've
had
with
engineering
and
with
our
consultants.
I
think
you
know.
Ideally
it
would
if
we
could
there's
no
question
about
the
basic,
the
fundamental
stage
in
terms
of
the
stage
and
the
canopy,
but
we
want
to
design
that
whatever
the
canopy
covering
is
of
the
stage.
There's
no
question
about
that
being
a
component
of
it.
We
want
to
be
able
to
combine
to
develop
that
in
a
way
that
is
consistent.
M
That
kind
of
common
theme,
if
you
will
in
the
park
so
I,
think
the
back
of
house
and
the
covered
seating
we're
looking
at
whether
we
can
phase
those
things
that
obviously
gives
us
some
flexible
from
a
financing
standpoint,
flexibility.
But
what
we're
having
to
work
through
is
whether
or
not
it's
as
a
practical
matter.
We
can
face
some
of
that
those
items
separately
and
then
you
come
back
and
do
them
later.
M
If
you
know,
if
the
cost
to
come
back
and
do
them
later
is
exponentially
more
expensive,
then
you
know
that
may
or
may
not
be
in
our
best
interest.
If
it's
something
that
we
can
do,
then
it
may
help
us
from
a
little
more
flexibility
on
the
front
end
with
the
financing
and
and
the
payment
of
the
park
we
could.
Basically,
you
know
we
can
go,
build
a
library,
for
example,
and
get
that
going
immediately,
and
you
know
that
would
offset
the
cost
of
that.
So
it's
just
some
choices
that
we
have
to
make.
A
E
E
I'm
gonna
get
straight
to
the
point
and
I'm
gonna
see
if
I
have
any
support
for
this
I
believe
the
City
Hall
should
come
down
as
soon
as
possible
and
I'm
gonna
tell
you
why
I
used
to
take
different
ways
downtown
to
avoid
traffic
used
to
take
true
Street,
because
everybody
drives
away
too
fast,
I
intentionally.
Don't
do
that
now:
I'll
Drive
down
Cleveland,
Street
or
grab
somewhere
else,
so
that
I
can
take
a
right
in
osceola
and
drive
past
the
Harborview
site
that
shows
to
me
progress
or
I'll
come
down.
E
Cleveland,
Street
and
I
see
the
new
businesses
getting
ready
to
open
tequila's
Roxy's.
It
is
really
starting
to
happen,
got
a
really
exciting
update
from
Amanda
on
a
brewery
that
I'm
now
willing
to
continue
to
be
more
patient
for
the
MLK
site
and
I
appreciate
Michael
Doug's
time
in
consideration.
I
appreciate
his
passion,
his
vision
and
his
energy
and
I
am
100%
on
board
with
an
architectural
survey
for
those
structures
that
I
feel
really
bring
value
in
preserving
and
using
an
adaptive,
reuse
strategy.
North
Ward
is
one
of
them.
E
We've
done
it
with
South
Ward
and
it's
it's
going
to
be
excited.
It's
going
to
be
a
huge
asset
when
we
really
start
moving
the
dial,
I
think
North
Ward,
the
Seminole
boat
docks
the
ship
captain's
house
across
the
street,
there's
so
much
potential
potential
in
the
north,
marina
area
and
I.
Think
with
the
results.
The
opinion
of
the
county
coming
forward
for
the
shared
Government
Center
is
very
exciting
and
I
think
the
number
one
preferred
site
is
going
to
be
talked
about
much
more
frequently.
E
As
this
study
comes
to
pass
comes
out,
and
so
I
think
the
architectural
review
of
the
fire
station
is
totally
relevant
and
it
was
expressed
to
me
that
well,
we
need
a
cultural
and
arts
program,
of
which
sirish
staff
has
done
an
incredible
job
and
that
possibly
with
an
architectural
review,
the
city
hall
site
could
be
that
I,
don't
see
the
historical
character,
quality
of
the
fire
station
or
North
Ward
in
City,
Hall
I'm.
Sorry,
it's
a
square
rectangle
that
looks
like
it
was
built
in
1969
or
70.
E
So
in
staying
with
consistency
of
consistent
urban
design
strategy
and
staying
with
and
Michael
said
and
I
appreciate
that
as
well,
that
tearing
down
is
not
always
the
right
thing,
but
building
up
in
this
particular
case,
we
wouldn't
be
where
we
are.
If
the
Harvey
didn't
come
down,
Terran
was
relevant,
valid
I,
think
that
tearing
down
in
the
City
Hall
is
just
as
relevant
invalid
and
I'm,
not
a
pup,
because
it
is
a
huge
site.
E
So
we
could
have
a
residential
component
on
the
east
side
of
the
city
hall
site
and
then
eventually,
maybe
an
arts
some
type
of
whether
it's
a
museum,
I've
heard
a
lot
of
great
ideas.
We
could
have
that
at
the
city
hall
site
that
would
tie
into
the
buff
walk,
but
something
modern
consists
bourbon
consistent
with
what
we're
doing
I
just
don't
see
that
old
structure
I
see
it
as
a
hindrance.
I
see
it.
It's
not
showing
progress.
I
really
feel
it's
time
to
have
that
conversation.
E
Let's
we're
moving
we're
moving
the
dials
in
many
arenas,
I,
don't
and
I'm.
Confident
I've
talked
to
a
few
people
in
city
staff
that
that
probably
is
going
to
be
a
cheaper
structure
to
tear
down
than
the
harbor
view
and
that
the
asbestos
remediation
is
not
going
to
be
near
the
consideration.
We
thought
it
was
going
to
be
so
I'd
like
to
open
that
up
for
discussion,
see
if
I,
if
I
have
any
support
for
that.
Those
are
some
of
my
reasons
for
wanting
to
see
it
go
down.
Well,.
A
A
Let
me
also
remind
us
that
the
initial
imagine
Clearwater
report
said
that
this
was
the
last
possible
site
that
should
be
looked
at
for
redevelopment
that
you
needed
to
get
an
activated
Park
you
needed
to
get
that
going
before
you
started
looking
at
other
areas
and
then
finally,
we've
had
this
further
conversation
about
who's.
Gonna
pay
for
it,
we've
got
a
limited
amount
of
reserves.
A
We've
haven't
budgeted
tearing
down
City
Hall
we
had
talked
about
if
you
sell.
If
you
get
a
developer
to
come
in,
let
him
bear
the
cost
of
the
building
so,
rather
than
tearing
it
down
just
to
tear
it
down,
let's
give
staff
the
opportunity
to
do
what
we
tasked
them
to
do
and
stop
bringing
up
subjects
to
revisit,
because
we
didn't
get
the
answer.
We
wanted
the
first
time
I,
don't.
A
E
A
D
I
wanted
to
speak.
I'm
gonna
do
another
one
of
my
typical
bounce,
like
a
ping-pong
game
on
TV,
but
I
agree.
City
Hall
needs
to
come
down,
but
not
right.
Now
we
have
you
know
we
we
demolished.
We
took
the
Harbor
View
Center
down
and
we
didn't
have
to.
We
knew
that
was
coming
down
because
it
was
gonna
be
used
for
a
public
purpose
for
the
grand
entrance
into
imagine
Clearwater.
D
We
didn't.
We
don't
have
to
go
to
referendum.
To
do
that.
One
we're
gonna
have
to
go
to
referendum,
to
do
something
with
the
City
Hall
site,
because
we're
not
gonna
put
another
I.
Don't
I,
don't
foresee
us
putting
another
government
building
on
that
site
in
the
end
plan,
so
it's
gonna
have
to
go
to
referendum
and
I.
Think
and-
and
we
all
know
how
referendums
in
the
city
we've
been
fairly
successful
with
the
last
few.
D
However,
historically,
we
haven't
been
real
successful
and
if
you
tear
it,
if
you
tear
down
City
Hall
right
now,
you're
gonna
create
an
open
view
across
the
property
for
people
driving
by
for
neighboring
properties.
You're
gonna
you're
gonna
create
a
benefit
that
won't
be
there
when
it's
redeveloped
and
and
I'm.
Sorry,
when
I
look
at
going
to
referendum
when
I
say
we're
gonna
tear
this
building
down
to
build
this
building
is
gonna,
be
a
much
easier
sound
than
to
say
we're.
Gonna.
D
Take
this
view
away
to
build
this
building
once
you
create
and
provide
that
view,
it's
not
now
I
think
I'm,
one
of
those
who
the
parking
lot
at
City
Hall
as
it
is
today.
The
parking
of
the
these
that
is
now
I
keep
saying:
CMA
property,
it's
our
property.
Now
that
property
I
think
should
be
utilized
for
downtown
parking,
and
we
should
allow
it.
We
should.
I
I
don't
know
that
the
well,
the
the
CMA
property
doesn't
even
have
any
parking
meters.
D
City
Hall
parking
meters,
probably
as
of
today,
aren't
generating
a
drop
in
the
bucket
monetarily
I
think
downtown
merchants,
and
everybody
could
benefit
that
much
more
by
just
saying
you
know
what
this
is
free
parking
for
right
now
until
we
know
exactly
where
we're
going.
This
is
parking
available
for
everyone.
Just
park
here
come
downtown.
Please
come
downtown.
D
Here's
where
you
can
park
but
to
tear
City
Hall
down
today,
without
knowing
what
we're
gonna
replace
on
that
property
and
having
to
go
to
a
referendum,
convincing
the
people
to
let
us
build
on
a
peace
property
that
we're
gonna
create
a
view
one
by
ten
before
they're
I.
Don't
think
it's
wrong!
I'd
rather
go
to
the
I'd
rather
go
to
the
people
of
Clearwater
and
say
I'm
gonna
get
rid
of
this
to
build
this
and
I'm
so
that
I
know
exactly
this
and
again
it's
a
as
the
mayor
said:
I
think.
D
If
we
get
to
that
point,
we
can
probably
negotiate
the
developer.
Whoever
gets
to
develop
that
property.
I
think
the
City
Hall
and
the
CMA
property
will
be
developed
as
one
parcel
in
the
end
or
is
one
development
by
one
one
developer,
then
I
think
you
can
get
that
developer
to
pay
for
the
demolition.
Yes,
there's
gonna
be
some
minor
expenses
for
security
around
the
city
hall
building
and
making
sure
we
don't
have
homeless
people
camping
out
there
and
and
it
giving
use.
D
F
G
Just
robbery,
well,
I
was
kind
of
a
proponent
on
tearing
down
City
Hall
I've
been
talking
about
it
for
a
while,
but
I
think
mostly
because
I
just
want
to
see
something
done,
and
but
after
talking
to
mr.
Delk
and
and
I,
see
a
turnaround
in
the
actual
progress
and
the
energy
of
the
project
and
the
different
phases
that
we're
doing.
It's
not
so
important
to
me
now
so
I
think
I
would
step
back
and
take
another
look
at
it
and
think.
Well,
maybe
I
kind
of
cream
this
mr.
G
Hamilton,
that
let's
see
if
we
could,
what
we
can
do
to
attract
a
developer,
maybe
on
combination
of
properties
and
see.
If
that
would
be
something
and
I
think
I'd,
be
the
demolition
becomes
kind
of
a
minor
thing
at
that
point.
But
as
long
as
we
have
energy
in
progress,
Ford
motion
of
imagine
clear
water
I'm
fine
with
leaving
City
Hall
there
until
we
get
to
the
phase
where
we
really
need
to
bring
it
down.
A
H
D
A
Okay,
King
Council,
there's
nothing
else
on
our
agenda.
I
did
I
thought
this
was
going
to
be
on
our
agenda
and
it's
not
but
I'm
gonna
bring
it
up
anyway,
because
I
have
a
concern.
As
you
all
know,
most
recently
we've
been
receiving
a
lot
of
public
records
requests
and
we
have
had
some
problems
in
retrieving
that
information
we've
had
some
trouble
with.
You
know,
requests
on
the
sunshine
you
know
and
making
sure
that
we
share
information
that
comes
whether
it's
on
your
phone
or
on
your
computer
at
home
or
on
your
city
computer.
A
All
that
needs
to
be
shared
and
I
didn't
know
whether
you
in
the
city
clerk
isn't
here
today,
but
I
didn't
know.
If
you
wanted
to
have
that
discussion,
just
a
brief
reminder
for
all
of
us,
because
I
don't
want
any
of
us
to
get
in
trouble
and
whether
you're
having
weather
weather
two
or
three
of
us
are
together
at
a
luncheon
or
at
a
breakfast
or
even
at
an
event.
You
know.
A
E
I
want
to
throw
something
out.
There
may
be,
as
suggestion
for
the
rest
of
my
colleagues,
I
responded
to
a
citizen
on
my
personal
phone
using
my
personal
email
address,
thinking.
That
would
be
a
high
road
to
take
to
try
to
resolve
some
issues
and
questions
with
this
particular
citizen,
because
I've
known
the
citizen
for
a
very
long
time.
That
was
not
the
right
road
to
take
and
I
was
called
out
upon
referring
to
that
citizen
on
a
personal
level,
so
I
would
suggest,
regardless
of
who
you
think
you
know,
and
how?
E
A
Mr.
po
glaze,
what
did
what
triggered
this
for
me
was
the
request
for
public
records
on
our
phones
and
staff
advised
me
that
my
phone
wasn't
capturing.
Fortunately,
I
don't
give
out
my
cell
phone
number
to
too
many
people.
I,
don't
get
any
text,
you
know
on
City
business,
but
that's
what
triggered
all
of
this
and
the
request
for
emails
that
we
had
received.
You
know
through
the
office
what
you
brought
up
was
something,
but
it's
just
a
reminder.
A
What
whether
you're,
whether
two
of
us
or
three
of
us,
are
having
breakfast
together
or
or
add
a
you
know
dinner.
You
know.
Somebody's
gonna
think
that
we're
talking
about
City
business,
the
people
with
us
may
be
talking
about
sitting
business
and
that
puts
us
in
an
awkward
spot
yeah.
So
it's
it's
just
a
reminder
for
us.
You
know
on
that,
and
you
know
why
then
found
out
they
changed
my
phone
and
now
my
phone
doesn't
sink
in
I'm
I'm,
getting
really
confused,
but
anyhow
that
that's
that's
the
reason
behind
all
of
this
clarification.
D
I
guess
Nicole
one
hitch
is,
but
when
someone
sends
me
an
email
to
my
city,
email
address
and
it's
one
one
citizens
directly
to
me
not
to
the
entire
City
Council.
The
fact
that
it's
on
my
City
email
address
it
is
captured
and
it
is
available
in
a
pub.
That's
public
record
I
don't
have
to
I,
don't
have
to
then
forward
that
to
the
rest
of
the
council
to
make
sure
they
get
a
copy.
D
D
C
N
O
N
A
G
Mr.
ulbrich,
so
this
is
suggestion
on
my
personal
phone,
which
I
don't
answer,
really
numbers
that
I
don't
see
it's
if
it's
a
name,
I'll
answer
it.
If
it's
a
number
I
don't
and
just
listen
to
the
voicemail.
But
on
my
voice
message,
I
say
if
this
has
to
do
was
to
the
water
City
business,
that
it's
public
record
and
please
email
me
or
call
me
at
the
city
phone
which
captures
that
if
I
do
get
a
call,
then
I
kind
of
make
a
note
of
it
and
send
it
to
Patty.