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Listen
to
approve
the
agenda
item
4.1.
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D
The
first
of
that
is
the
everglades
exhibit
and
we
refurbished
the
existing
gallery
space
in
the
main
library
built
out
a
new
gallery
in
the
atrium
and
what
we
found
once
we
started
work
was
that
the
light
levels
were
so
high
that
we
needed
to
do
some
additional
work
with
the
vinyl
and
all
the
graphics.
In
order
to
lower
the
light
levels,
we
also
had
to
raise
the
height
of
the
walls
to
protect
the
photography.
So
those
are
the
increase
in
cost.
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D
And
the
vinyl
is
designed
so
that
you
can
just
the
letters
are
on
top,
so
we
just
swap
out
the
letters.
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I
just
want
to
make
a
comment.
This
is
a
great
exhibit.
I
I've
never
been.
I've
never
seen
a
greater
a
better
exhibit
in
the
library,
and
I
hope
that
we
can
continue
this
and
keep
something
going
in
here.
All
the
time
now
and
I'm
glad
to
have
this
all
the
way
through
may
and
I'm
telling
anybody
that
hasn't
seen
it
come
on
down
and
see
it,
because
it's
amazing.
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We
do
not
yet
we
know
that
the
opening
was
close
to
400,
and
that
is
something
we
are
figuring
out
in
december
is
the
best
way
to
count
that
we
might
end
up.
There's
stands.
You
can
get
that
count,
you
use
them
usually
for
bike.
Pet
counts
like
on
trails,
so
we're
looking
to
the
cost
of
those
and
where
we
could
put
them.
So
we
don't
just
get
people
going
to
the
restroom,
but
where
else
could
we
put
it
in
the
exhibit
to
get
a
good
count.
B
D
I
D
So
this
is
a
update
on
how
we've
managed
to
implement
our
strategy
this
year.
I
just
I
do
want
to
start
by
saying
that
howard
smith
was
supposed
to
be
a
big
part
of
this
presentation.
Today.
He
got
a
call
a
few
moments
ago
that
his
father
is
in
the
hospital,
so
he
was
not
able
to
make
it,
but
he
has
done
extraordinary
work
this
year.
D
So
I'm
really
I'm
praying
for
his
family,
but
I'm
also
sad
that
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
hear
from
him
directly
because
he
spent
so
much
time
working
with
our
business
owners
and
tenants.
So
with
that
today,
I'd
like
to
share
a
few
stories
that
illustrate
our
work
in
2021
in
many
years.
In
many
ways
this
has
been
a
tougher
year
than
2020.
D
D
So
just
as
a
reminder,
these
are
our
marching
orders
right.
The
community's
adopted
vision
of
the
2018
plan
here
that
will
be
the
urban
core
and
heart
of
the
city.
It's
a
place
of
live
working
and
playing
and
we'll
continue
to
focus
on
creation
of
a
high
quality
public
realm
right
and
regular
person.
Language
write
all
the
public
spaces
that
we
gather
together.
D
And,
of
course,
every
day,
and
sometimes
waking
up
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
we're
asking
ourselves
are
we
changing
the
perception
of
downtown
because,
as
we
know,
our
biggest
barrier
to
change
is
a
negative
perception
of
downtown,
and
if
we
want
people
to
spend
their
time
in
dollars
and
investors,
they
have
to
feel
like.
This
is
a
place
that
is
worthy
of
that
we
are
geographically
restricted.
These
are
the
boundaries
here.
D
And
there
are
four
main
ways
that
we
facilitate
change,
and
I
know
you've
heard
this
all
before,
but
for
our
viewing
audience
at
home
and
they
understand
why
we
do
what
we
do.
We
do
not
run
businesses
directly,
we
don't
deliver
general
study
services,
but
we
do
these
four
things
to
help
restore
the
functioning
of
a
private
market
and
that's
really
the
goal
of
a
cra
in
a
regular
situation.
We
wouldn't
be
needed,
but
there's
things
that
have
to
be
fixed
in
order
to
encourage
private
investment.
D
We
have
several
target
audiences
depending
on
the
program
which
are
all
listed
here,
and
we
recognize
that
all
of
these
groups-
everyone
on
this
slide,
has
to
be
involved
if
downtown
is
going
to
be
successful
and
have
sustainable
success.
So
a
lot
of
our
work
is
figuring
out
how
to
partner
with
these
different
groups
and
empower
them
to
make
change
again.
Big
shout
out
to
engineering
and
planning
and
codes
enforcement,
public
comms
right
who
all
work
with
us
to
make
this
happen,
and
our
business
owners
as
well.
D
So
the
three
areas
that
we
work
in
to
change
perception.
These
are
just
broad
containers,
creating
and
sharing
positive
stories,
increasing
investor
confidence,
the
course
placemaking
and
place
keeping
we're
always
doing
work
on
a
continuum
which
means
we
have
to
have
activity
now
right,
increasing
foot
traffic,
but
we
also
have
to
have
sustainability
over
the
long
term,
which
is
more
of
our
housing
projects.
D
So
we're
always
thinking
what
do
we
have
to
do
today?
What
are
we
doing
today
to
prepare
for
tomorrow
and
really
what
we're
focused
on
is:
how
do
we
balance
flexibility
right,
but
also
transparency
and
being
accountable
to
the
taxpayers,
to
reduce
the
risk
of
investment
right
to
make
this
an
environment?
That's
less
risky.
D
So,
looking
at
the
numbers,
we
receive
tax,
increment
financing
from
the
city
and
from
the
county,
roughly
split
50-50
county
funds
are
restricted
to
capital
improvements
and
land
acquisition.
So
when
we
think
about
programs
like
clyde
butcher,
our
marketing
program
staff
expenses
that
all
comes
from
city
tiff
and
the
county
tip
is
on
those
tangible
things
that
that
you
can
touch.
You
saw
a
significant
increase
in
revenue.
This
was
due
to
property
purchases,
apex
1100
and
the
nolan
apartments
coming
online.
D
D
I
think
the
other
big
thing
I
would
point
out
here
is
that
it
takes
programs
and
staff
to
spend
money.
So
that's
that's
it's
harder
than
you
think
right
unless
you're
spending
a
bunch
of
money
at
once,
right
in
a
big
grant
or
buying
property
that,
in
the
amounts
that
we
give
our
grants
right,
twenty
five
thousand
fifty
thousand
dollars
right.
We
have
to
generate
a
good
amount
of
interest
in
order
to
to
spend
on
what
we're
pulling
in
here.
D
So
three
stories
today
that
I
think
illustrate
our
success
and
strategy
the
mural
program.
So
one
reason
for
creating
and
sharing
positive
stories.
Art
is
really
the
core
of
how
we
do
that
and
there,
and
the
reason
being
is
that
it
generates
one
a
lot
of
media
compared
to
when
we
had
new
businesses.
All
like
the
six
or
seven
new
businesses
that
came
out.
We
got
two
articles
right
for
our
mural
program.
We
get
five
for
wearable
art.
D
We
get
five
tv
and
news
articles
for
clyde
butcher
right,
it's
more
in
the
realm
of
nine,
so
art
is
something
that
people
keep
coming
back
to
again
and
again.
That
are
interesting
stories
to
share.
We
have
seven
new
murals
in
downtown
since
2018.
we
completed
three
this
year,
thanks
to
chris
hubbard
and
his
work
with
us
on
that
the
total
cost
for
these
three
murals
was
52
480.
D
We
intentionally
choose
designs
that
are
complex
and
contain
stories
that
are
authentic
to
this
community.
Of
course,
at
the
top
you
see
a
really
whimsical
kind
of
dreamy,
one
with
an
alligator,
which
is
you
know,
symbol
of
florida
and
then
at
the
bottom.
Those
are
three
native
florida
plants
that
are
shown
on
this
at
its
most
basic
level,
murals
reduce
visual
blight,
which
is
part
of
our
mission.
D
This
was
an
ugly
warehouse
right
on
a
vacant
corner
at
our
busiest
intersection
and
people
drove
by
it
four
years,
and
I
don't
think,
looked
at
it
twice,
the
second
that
we
put
a
mural
up
there.
We
attracted
two
farmers
markets,
which
we
have
struggled
for
several
years
to
have
markets
in
downtown,
so
we
got
market
murray,
and
then
we
also
got
the
hispanic
farmers
market
and
both
of
those
were
part
of
our
partnership
with
amplify
clearwater
to
help
them
through
the
permitting
process
and
received
city
code
sponsorship.
D
D
We
also
launched
as
part
of
the
website
too
in
artists
seeking
walls
and
wall
seeking
artists
and
since
we've
started
murals,
not
just
the
city
ones,
we've
had
four
private
property
owners
put
murals
on
their
properties
as
well.
So
we
know
that
it's
inspiring
other
artists
to
or
other
property
owners
to
beautify
their
property.
D
So
I'll
just
say
in
closing
that
high
quality
artist
in
public
spaces
is
an
effective,
short-term
and
long-term
strategy
for
reducing
blight,
encouraging
investment
and
generating
positive
stories
and
we're
going
to
keep
pushing
forward
with
augmented
reality
for
our
existing
murals
and
exploring
immersive
lighting
and
projection
mapping
to
build
out
to
build
upon
our
tech
culture
and
set
us
apart
from
other
tampa
bay
communities.
D
So
streetscape
phase
three
and
I
apologize.
This
is
kind
of
tiny,
but
this
is
a
transformative
capital
improvement
project.
That's
been
a
long
time
coming
our
community's
so
excited
that
eleanor
lydia
who's
a
great
champion,
restarted
the
neighborhood
association
for
the
downtown
gateway,
because
she
said
finally
there's
something
to
talk
about
again
and
something
to
plan
around
and
celebrate.
D
The
cra's
invested,
1.9
million
for
the
streetscape
and
we've
budgeted
half
a
million
for
the
festival
corps,
that'll
be
constructed
and
we'll
be
hiring
a
community
artist
to
work
with
the
neighborhood
to
put
some
kind
of
public
art
piece
in
this
space.
Once
we
get
farther
along
in
the
project,
I
think,
as
you
know,
these
kind
of
projects
can
kill
businesses
streetscapes.
D
It's
kind
of
disruptive
construction
for
over
a
year
and
a
half
and
engineering
public
comms
and
the
contractor,
gibbs
and
registered
cra
staff
are
working
above
and
beyond
to
make
sure
that
these
businesses
remain
accessible,
informed
about
what's
happening.
Our
community
knows
that
they're
open
to
business
open
for
business.
D
We
have
a
dedicated
project
website,
quarterly
neighborhood
meetings
at
local
businesses,
weekly
in-person
meetings
at
neighborhood,
nature's
food
patch,
and
we've
done
direct
mail
to
every
property
within
three
quarters
of
a
mile,
the
project
site
several
times
to
inform
them
of
the
schedule
and
to
advertise
our
business
assistance
grants
in
order
to
be
more
inclusive.
We
have
an
agreement
with
hispanic
outreach
center
to
provide
translation
services
for
the
entire
duration
of
this
project.
D
For
spanish
translation,
we've
helped
the
businesses
by
having
the
voucher
program
during
the
holiday
times
also
with
the
window
decorating,
and
improvements
like
this
are
part
of
that
longer
term
strategy
that
encourage
redevelopment
of
the
frontier
building
right
at
1250
cleveland
street.
It
shows
that
the
city
and
cra
are
committed
to
investing
in
this
area.
D
Okay,
reducing
blight
and
vacancy
the
beginning
of
this
year.
You
made
it
very
clear
that
reducing
ground
floor,
commercial
vacancy
was
your
priority
and
we
have
done
several
things
to
work
towards
that
goal.
We
launched
the
opportunity
zone
prospectus
and
we
did
direct
mail
to
every
property
owner,
notifying
them
of
our
grant
programs
and
that
they
were
located
in
an
opportunity
zone.
D
D
We've
worked
with
the
downtown
development
board
and
the
dcma
to
provide
live
music
on
a
weekly
basis,
as
well
as
support
the
ongoing
street
closure
and
our
holiday
programming
and
clyde
butcher
exhibit
draw
visitors
to
downtown
as
well.
So
those
are
those
short-term.
How
do
we
bring
people
on
the
street
strategies
for
long
term?
We
know
one
of
the
key
reasons.
Properties
remain
vacant
for
those
owners
who
wish
to
sell
or
lease
is
that
it's
cost
prohibitive
to
renovate
out
of
date
buildings.
D
We
have
five
grant
programs
right
now
to
assist
businesses,
sidewalk
furniture,
facade
grants,
commercial,
beautification,
white
box
and
vacancy
reduction.
You
see
in
the
upper
corner
there
philly
jones
was
a
recipient
of
a
facade
grant
for
68
000
and
he
was
visited
by
governor
desantis
a
few
weeks
ago
and
got
a
nice
nice
tweet
out
of
that.
So
we
were
happy
that
he
had
somewhere
nice
to
visit.
D
D
Okay.
So
in
partnership
with
codes
enforcement,
public
utilities,
we
completed
an
inventory
of
all
the
ground
floor,
commercial
spaces
in
the
cra.
These
numbers
are
as
of
november
15th.
I
did
not
update
them
this
morning
coming
in
to
work
so
know
that
it's.
This
is
a
point
in
time
and
it
changes.
There
are
262
ground
floor,
commercial
spaces
throughout
the
whole
cra
118
of
those
are
vacant.
That's
a
45
vacancy
rate
on
the
400
through
1200
block
of
cleveland
street
in
year
may
2019.
D
So
our
goal
right
now
is
a
10
reduction,
which
is
26
spaces.
So
we
will
continue
to
monitor
that
I'm
going
to
go
into
more
depth
on
our
beautification
and
white
box
grants
in
just
a
moment.
But
did
you
have
any
questions
about
that
before
I.
D
E
Whole
sierra,
okay
and
then
the
last
time
I
think
you
presented
you
talked
about.
I
think
there
were
11
or
13
new
businesses
coming
the
axe
throwing
and
the
dueling
pianos
and
restaurants
does.
That
is
that
reflected
in
these
numbers?
Yes,
okay,
so
the
ones
that
are
open,
the
ones
that
are
open
but
like
that
dueling
piano
bar,
I
saw
the
sign
painted
it's
just,
not
ready.
H
We
have
all
these
great
programs
for
businesses
that
can
beautify
and
restore
the
properties.
Is
there
anything
we
can
do
any
type
of
incentive
or
or
stick
that
we
can
use
to
get
the
owners
of
these
properties
to
give
at
least
a
year-long
lease?
Because
I
keep
running
into
people
who
say
we
want
to
move
in
here,
but
they
won't
give
us
anything
but
a
month-to-month
lease
and
no
one
wants
to
spend
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
fix
up
a
place
without
knowing
that
you'll
be
able
to.
H
You
know,
stay
open
in
the
second
month.
Is
there
anything
the
city
can
do.
G
Maybe
we
don't,
certainly
we
don't
have
any
direct
power
over
private
contracts.
In
that
respect
there
may
be
opportunities
through
either
special
assessments
or
things
of
that
nature,
but
it's
pretty
it's
pretty
restrictive.
So
we
may
I
mean
there's
things
we
can
talk
about,
but
it's
hard
to
tailor
it
exactly
to
the
problem
that
you're
looking
to
solve.
D
And
I
I
have
shared
some
of
my
legal
theories
with
mr
margulis
that
he's
researching
you
know
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
that
here,
but
I
mean
we're
thinking
about
all
of
that,
so
to
dive
in
to
dive
into
and
again
this
is
howard
smith's
work
and
I'm
sorry
that
he
can't
be
here
right
now,
but
we
have
three
programs:
the
commercial
beautification
is
for
projects,
twenty-five
thousand
dollars
and
less
that's
those
exterior
improvements,
good
for
tenants
or
property
owners,
white
box.
D
It's
for
projects
that
are
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
less
for
interior
and
exterior
improvements.
Our
grant
goes
up
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
again
tenants
or
property
owners
and
then,
of
course,
the
vacancy
reduction
grant
which
comes
before
you.
That's
the
one.
That's
up
to
half
a
million,
so
howard
has
done
a
lot
of
outreach,
direct
mail,
individual
meetings,
direct
emails,
organic
and
paid
media
meeting
with
real
estate,
commercial
brokers
and
just
continues
to
touch
base
over
and
over
again.
D
That's
one
reason
why
the
window
decorating
program
is
important,
because
that
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
touch
base
with
every
property
owner
and
establish
that
relationship
and
tenant,
and
let
them
know
these
programs
are
out
there,
and
so
we,
it
also
you
know,
gives
us
a
chance.
It
might
seem
simple
with
the
window
decorating,
but
a
lot
of
people
aren't
used
to
filling
out
forms.
They
don't
necessarily
apply
for
permits.
D
D
So,
since
the
program
launched
in
may,
we've
had
two
white
box
applications,
those
are
the
50
000.
Each
we've
had
two
commercial
beautification
and
one
vacancy
reduction
grant
which
has
been
awarded.
They
have
not
pulled
a
building
permit.
Yet,
in
order
to
finalize
the
grant
agreement,
a
couple
things
have
to
happen:
they
have
to
get
a
building
permit
if
required,
they
also
have
to
have
a
business
license
or
be
able
to
obtain
one
in
60
days
and
they
have
to
provide
us
with
two
quotes
for
their
scope
of
work.
D
So
those
those
are
the
numbers
so
far
again
the
challenges
to
the
program,
lack
of
contractors
right
everyone's
kind
of
dealing
with
that
right
now
for
small
jobs,
a
month-to-month
leases
you
have
to
have
at
least
a
year-long
lease
in
order
for
to
be
eligible.
So
that's
an
issue
and
then,
of
course,
there
is
sometimes
a
lag
between
okay
you're
eligible
for
this
program,
and
then
you
have
to
receive
the
building
permit
before
the
money
starts
flowing
out
of
the
door.
But
overall
we've
heard
very
positive
feedback.
D
D
Okay,
I
did
want
to
let
you
know
too,
that
of
our
food
and
drink
grants.
We
had
seven
of
those
and
the
purpose
of
that
program
was
to
get
places
serving
food
and
drink
on
nights
and
weekends.
We
had
seven
two
of
those
have
gone
out
of
business:
black,
brick
and
vector
barn
arcade.
D
D
They
have
six
months
to
have
another
food
and
drink
tenant.
Okay,
so
the
way
we
designed
it,
knowing
that
restaurants
are
risky
is
a
restaurant
may
go
out
of
business,
but
you
have
an
opportunity
to
establish
another
food
and
drink
use.
E
I
didn't
I,
I
appreciate
all
your
work
and
that
powerpoint
you'll
share
the
powerpoint
with
us
right
and
I
had
a
a
couple
of
questions
related
to
the
strategy.
Final
document
I
didn't
know,
if
you
were,
you
know,
going
to
go
over
all
of
that
or
was
that
it
was
embedded
in
the.
D
No,
I
I
had
just
had
one
more
slide
on
equity
and
sustainability
and
then
I'm
I'm
happy
to
walk
through
that
I
did
not.
I
did
not
think
that
you
all
would
want
me
to
go
line
by
line
with
the
whole
strategy,
but
I'm
happy
if
you
have
specific
questions
to
answer
that
I
mean
you
know.
I
will
I'll
talk
all
day
if
you
want
to,
but
I
don't
think
you're
wrong.
D
And
we
have
like
three
minutes
of
video
to
show.
Yes,
thank
you
we'll
keep
that
in
mind.
D
So,
just
touching
on
equity
and
sustainability
quickly,
this
flows
through
all
of
our
work,
so
we
don't
necessarily
call
them
out
as
a
specific
program,
but
we're
constantly
thinking
about
these
issues.
I
do
think
for
equity.
It
starts
it
starts
with
us.
It
starts
with
our
staff
and
I'm
happy
to
say
that
we
have
an
extremely
diverse
staff.
D
D
You
know
you
really
have
to
think
about
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
applying
to
those
programs
and
how
to
reach
them,
not
just
how
you
would
think
about
it.
Of
course,
we
support
community,
policing
and
case
management.
We've
really
thought
hard
about.
How
do
we
make
it
easier
to
access
grant
funds?
How
do
we
reduce
that
administrative
burden
so
forms
are
understandable,
they're,
simple,
while
still
protecting
right,
the
public
tax
dollar.
D
Finding
that
balance-
and
I
will
say
the
downtown
development
board-
you
know
they've
worked
with
us
very
hard
on
this
as
well
to
make
it
just
as
easy
as
possible
right
to
obtain
that
funding
to
do
to
help
us
implement
the
downtown
plan,
communicating
in
multiple
formats,
languages
and
channels.
You
know
long-term
stuff,
building
mixed
income,
housing
building
the
streetscape.
That's
really
the
best
thing
that
we
can
do
for
the
environment
is
having
a
compact
footprint
that
we're
all
living
within
shared
parking
and
finally,
art
with
environmental
themes.
D
You
know
really
celebrating
the
natural
history
and
the
environmental
history
of
florida.
So
with
that,
I
am
finished
with
my
formal
comments:
council
member
almond.
F
So
I
know
that
at
one
time
you
were
helping
people
that
were
giving
the
grants
to
to
help
them
through
the
permitting
process.
Is
that
still,
in
effect,.
D
Yes,
in
the
in
the
sense
that
howard
smith
is,
is
helping
them.
He
recently,
you
know
corralled
everyone
to
help
get
their
sidewalk
cafe,
permits
right
in
the
closure
area,
so
providing
them
information,
making
sure
they're
connecting
with
the
right
person
and
planning
a
building
department,
helping
them
get
their
maps
or
surveys
together
as
needed,
and
so
we're
not
filling
out
the
permit
for
them.
But
we
are
being
that
liaison.
F
Well,
I
know
I
just
you
know,
being
you
know
involved
with
this
before.
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
you're
doing
that,
because
I
hate
to
give
grants
out
and
then
have
people
fail
to
be
able
to
get
a
building
permit
and
then
go
elsewhere.
So
I
think
that's
real
important
to
keep.
F
D
We
have,
I
forgot
to
mention
the
pinellas
county
licensing
board,
has
a
list
of
74
trade
areas
and
general
contractors
and
we
connect
them
with
that
list
too,
when
they're
having
trouble
getting
quotes.
Okay,.
D
I
mean
you
look
at
all
of
that
and
you're
still
looking
at
you
know
under
a
million,
but
that
number
comes
from
anticipating
we
would
have
had
a
development
deal
done
for
the
bluff
properties
right.
South
washington
would
have
been
completed,
1250
cleveland,
so
really
the
bulk
of
that
number
is
saying:
are
we
moving
forward
with
these
bigger
developments.
B
I
think
we
need
to
select
the
master
developers
that
we
want
to
pursue,
and
mr
jennings
and
I
have
talked
about
that,
rather
than
just
casting
the
net
seeing
what
comes
in
so
those
are
my
priorities
for
this
coming
year
and
I
think,
as
imagine,
clearwater
progresses.
It's
going
to
certainly
give
people
assurance
that
I
mean
that
project
will
be
completed.
There
is
no
turning
back,
but
I
think
people
will
get
a
much
better
idea
of
the
magnitude
of
what
that's
going
to
do
for
downtown.
E
So,
on
that
last
slide
about
equity
and
sustainability,
so
I
didn't
you
know
you.
One
of
the
things
you
said
was
to
have
a
smaller
footprint,
a
compact
footprint
to
help
support
the
environment.
I
mean,
but
you
are
always
aware
of
green
print
2.0
and
our
goals
and
using
those
when
we
work
with
developers,
and
so
if
we
have
a
goal
of
a
thousand
solar
on
the
homes
of
a
thousand
low-income
people
by
2030.
E
The
cra
is
an
area
we
can
look
at
as
well
right,
okay
and
same
thing
with
community
gardens,
which
I
know
we
did
with
that
one.
That's
coming
on
cleveland,
which
is
fantastic.
You
also
had
support
policing
and
case
management,
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
describe
what
does
case
management
supporting
case
management.
Look
like.
D
E
E
So,
in
speaking
with
residents
who
live
in
that
east
gateway-
and
we
know
that
kathy
flaherty
is
a
a
resident
who
lives
there
has
a
business
is
very
passionate
and
communicates
regularly.
She
still
has
concerns
about
the
visuals
and
the
trash,
and
I
was
wondering:
are
there
many
grant?
First
of
all,
can
we
acknowledge
that
part
of
our
focus
is
also
on
quality
of
life
for
the
residents
that
live
within
the
cra
and
some
of
the
concerns?
She's
mentioned
a
lot.
D
Yes,
I
mean
certainly
cra
funds
can
be
used
for
street
improvement.
Streetscape
improvements,
that's
something
we'd
have
to
coordinate
with
engineering
on
and
then
in
terms
of
the
trash
containers
which
I
know
been
a
long
time
discussion.
It
is
part
of
our
work
plan
in
2022
to
have
a
residential
addressing
you
know,
visual
blight
and
those
kind
of
things
that,
but
with
each
of
those
properties,
they're
grandfathered
in
right,
so
in
residential
you
do
have
to
pro
in
hotel.
D
You
have
to
provide
some
parking,
so
it's,
of
course
we
can
create
a
grant
program.
That's
not
the
issue.
The
challenge
is
going
to
be
their
site
layout
and
how
they
can
meet
zoning
standards
for
parking
for
where
things
can
be
adjacent
to
the
street.
That's
that's
really
the
issue
there.
So
the
the
money.
You
know
the
money
is
not
the
issue.
E
Yeah-
and
I
did
I
walked
that
with
brian
johnson,
which
was
very
informative,
but
also
you
know
if
we
have
just
kind
of
some
bad
actors
in
that
area
that
dump
mattresses
and
dump
things
around
dumpsters.
Maybe
it's
it's
some
better
enforcement
as
well.
I
had
a
question
on
page
two:
you've
got
creating
and
sharing
positive
authentic
stories
about
downtown.
One
of
my
questions
was:
does
sharing
mean
solely
on
social
media?
E
Does
it
also
mean
you
know
news
stories,
print
and
tv,
and
I
think
you
mentioned
how
the
clyde
butcher
got
nine
different
media
attention
or
articles,
and-
and
I
was
thinking,
could
we
do
something
like
a
send
us,
your
30-second
video
on?
Why
you
like
downtown
clearwater,
and
then
we
could
compile
them,
especially
with
like
the
12
days
of
christmas
or
these
different
events
that
we
have.
Maybe
we
have
a
little
ask
of
residents.
E
And
then
I
I
had
another
since
we
have
a
little
bit
of
time.
Another
idea
like
inviting
cnc,
neighborhood
members
and
different
neighborhood
groups,
not
just
the
coalition
but
the
different
neighborhood
groups,
to
hold
a
monthly
meeting
in
a
downtown
location,
and
could
we
open
a
building
that
we
own
and
maybe
offer
half-price
meal
coupons
or
some
kind
of
incentive
to
get
them
to
come
down
before
their
meeting
or
stay
after
and
just
get
pulled
from
a
variety
of
locations
in
the
city?
E
B
E
I
had
a
question
about
well,
I
have
lots
of
fantastics
produced
the
holiday
extravaganza
event
series
annually
in
december,
so
I
wasn't
able
to
be
here
for
the
tree
lighting,
but
I
was
here
last
night
for
the
kickoff
of
the
12
days,
and
that
was
really
cute.
It
was
you
know
it
was.
Nice
could
have
been
a
little
better
attendant,
but
it
was
good.
It
was
a
school
night,
okay,
where
I,
where
you've
got
analyze
the
perception
of
downtown
in
the
print
media
and
social
media
through
sentiment
analysis.
E
D
So
we're
working
with
bandwagon
on
that
right
now
and
if
you
remember
they
met
with
you
earlier
this
year
and
did
all
that
surveying
so
we're
in
the
process
of
reviewing
those
results
and
getting
that
in
a
final
digestible
document.
So
we'll
have
that
very
early
next
year
and
that
analysis
is
part
of
that
work
and
that's
something
that
so.
D
The
two
questions
that
we
are
working
on
with
bandwagon
is:
what
is
the
current
perception
right,
because
that's
that's
the
thing:
what
do
people
think
within
a
five
mile
radius
right
about
downtown
and
in
the
region,
and
does
it
match
up
with
what
we're
trying
to
communicate
and
promote?
Does
it
match
up
with
what
we
think
or
not,
because
all
of
us
have
a
lot
of
anecdotal
evidence
of
people
that
we
talk
to
that
they're
they're,
bringing
a
scientific
survey
to
that
for
sentiment.
D
Analysis
I
mean
we
could
pay,
for
you
know
a
third
party
software
to
analyze
that
and
go
through
that.
But
first
we
wanted
to
go
through
this
process
with
bandwagon
to
establish
what
the
goal
is.
You
know
that
we're
measuring
for
and
looking
at
and
that
evaluation's
very
hard
right
as
we
as
we
look
at
this
work
and
long.
You
know,
especially
when
things
take
a
long
time
to
happen,
so
we
are
searching
for
every
way
possible
right,
whether
it
be
the
counting
the
people
looking
at
the
media
like
are
we
making
a
difference?
E
Okay
and
then
you
know
when
we
did,
you
say
when
bandwagon
was
going
to
do
a
presentation
for
us
or
give
us
from
most
likely
february
or
march
okay,
and
then
I'm
just
thinking
because
of
perception
and
we've
had.
E
D
We
are
working
on
a
fact
sheet
right
about
about
property
ownership
with
legal,
and
I
think
that's
really.
You
know
the
city
manager
call
what
information
we
want
to
put
out
there
right
in
combination
with
you
guys
and
it
something
that
is
a
little
bit
challenging
is
when,
when
it's
public
information
from
a
public
source
right,
here's
the
rules,
here's
the
legalities
people
tend
to
believe
that
when
you
start
getting
into
more
of
our
world,
we
have
to
be
very
careful.
D
We
don't
get
into
a
propaganda
field
right
because
I'm
paid
to
tell
you
good
things
about
downtown
right.
That's
the
that's
the
position
of
power
that
that
we're
in
so
as
you're
saying
when
other
people
share
their
stories,
whether
it's
the
little
videos
whatever
it
may
be.
We
are
looking
to
amplify
right
that
and
share
other
people's
information
of
their
downtown
experiences.
So
it's
not
all
coming
from
us
because
again
we
are
paid
to
do
this.
It
is
in
our
best
interest
to
share
that
information.
D
So
I
don't
know
I
really
your
most
effective
communication
is
very
niche.
You
have
a
very
well
defined
target
audience
right
if
we
just
send
things
out
into
the
general,
it's
not
going
to
land
or
stick
so
much,
especially
in
our
current
media
environment.
I
don't
know
if
you
remember,
when
rosemary
damore
was
here
and
right,
giving
this
real.
You
know
rosemary,
is
a
media
expert
and
giving
the
overview
of
how
much
we're
in
our
bubbles
right.
D
There's,
there's
five
media
companies
in
the
united
states
and
all
of
our
everything
is
intentionally
designed
to
keep
us
in
a
little
bubble,
an
echo
chamber
only
hearing
what
we
want
to
hear
and
and
knowing
who
we
know
so
we're
it
takes
a
lot
to
break
through
that.
J
And
if
I
may
so,
I
have
several
comments
related
to
that
in
the
senate,
manager's
report
later
in
the
in
the
workshop,
but
I
do
believe
that
there
will
be
a
lot
more
information
coming
specifically
to
that
of
those
questions
in
january.
K
D
E
D
Of
that
I
don't
know,
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
details
of
the
grant
program
generally,
it
has
to
be,
you
know
up
on
a
main
street
and
for
a
facade,
the
only
thing
that
would
qualify
as
one
wall
that
would
be
adjacent
to
the
public
road
so
or
to
beautify
it.
You
know.
E
I
think
it's
imperative
when
we've
got
planned
partner
with
the
planning
department,
economic
development,
housing
departments
to
construct
a
missing
middle
housing
project
and
create
a
welcome
downtown
clearwater
business
toolkit.
I
just
want
to
emphasize
in
looking
at
legislation
that
that
seems
to
be.
You
know,
going
to
be
introduced
in
this
22
legislative
session
that
we
need
to
continue
to
be
very
pro-business
incentivize
a
lot.
I
know
you
do
a
ton
here,
but
we
need
to
really
kind
of
toot
our
own
horn
and
make
that
real
obvious,
because
we
are
partnering
with
businesses.
E
We
want
businesses
here
we
want
them
to
be
successful.
I
would
hope
that
we
want
to
hold
their
hand
and
mentor,
and
you
know,
through
the
permitting
process
and
all
that
and
get
that
message
out
there,
because
I
think
it's
just
real
important
to
be
consistent
and
proactive.
That
way.
E
D
I'm
gonna,
we
provide
them
the
property
for
free
yeah,
and
then
we
are
also,
of
course,
preserving
them
through
the
redevelopment
of
the
property
if
they
want
to
do
things
beyond
that.
That's
why
we're
establishing
the
place
making
grant
program
they'll
be
coming
before
you
in
in
january,
okay,.
E
All
right,
we
have
a,
we
have
a
clean
up
tonight,
so
I'll
report
that
to
them,
I
guess
one
last
one,
oh
underway,
provide
covet
19
compliant
programming
for
the
temporary
closure
of
cleveland
street.
I
have
oh
indefinite
closure
right
and
then
oh
commissioned
design
for
cleveland
street
lighting
project.
Is
that
the
creatures
in
the
branches
is
that?
Are
we
going
to
do
any
of
that.
D
Yeah
that
that's
on
pause
right
now,
because
that
company
is
based
in
canada.
I
mean
they've
just
started
opening
up,
but
there
was
a
request
from
all
our
downtown
businesses
that
they
wanted
to
meet
with
the
designers
in
person
and
they
had
lots
of
different
ideas
about
what
they
thought
could
or
should
happen.
So
so
that's
on
pause
for
the
moment.
Also
with
the
welcome
to
downtown
business
toolkit.
We
put
that
in
there
not
realizing
that
amplify
already.
E
D
Well,
we
they've
shifted
their
focus
to
12
days
of
christmas
and
holiday
programming,
but
they'll
be
we'll
bring
them
back
in
january
or
february,
but
the
long
and
short
of
it
is
we
had
a
positive
meeting
at
collaborative
labs.
We
will
send
you
that
real-time
record,
but
at
this
point
in
time
each
group
feels
like
they
have
distinct
enough
identities
to
remain
distinct
groups,
they're
going
to
try
to
overlap
a
little
more
using
the
downtown
clearwater.com
shared
calendar.
D
Maybe
look
at
some
shared
memberships,
so
if
I'm
a
business
in
downtown,
I
don't
have
to
belong
to
three
different
organizations,
but
but
I
think
right
now
they're
moving
forward
as
keeping
their
individual
organizations.
Okay,
thank.
E
B
A
A
A
A
A
D
D
A
B
Very
good
with
that
we
will
eat,
adjourn
the
cra
and
we
will
take
an
eight
minute
recess.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
Good
morning,
everyone
we'll
call
the
pension
trustees
to
order.
I
would
ask
if
there
are
any
amendments
to
the
minutes
of
the
october
18
2021
meeting,
see
none
to
have
motion
move
approval
of
the
minutes
as
submitted.
Second,
all
in
favor
aye
opposed
unanimous.
This
time,
I'd
like
to
open
it
up
to
citizens
to
be
heard.
If
there
are
any
citizens
to
speak
to
the
pension
trustees
on
items
that
are
not
on
the
agenda,
see
none
4.1.
L
M
Finally,
the
pension
plan
ordinance
requires
an
actuarial
experience,
study
of
plan
assumptions,
at
least
once
every
six
years
request
for
proposal
or
rfp
47-21
was
issued
for
these
services.
In
august,
the
rfp
committee
unanimously
chose
gabriel
roter
smith.
The
plan's
current
actuary
from
the
eight
respondents
gabe
roeder
smith,
provided
very
competitive
pricing
and
is
a
national
leader
and
florida
leader
in
providing
actuarial
services
to
public
sector.
M
Gabriel
smith
has
been
the
plan's
actuary
since
january
2000
2010
and
has
consistently
provided
an
excellent
level
of
service.
A
separate
agreement
for
actuarial
services
for
other
post-employment
benefits
services
per
the
rfp
will
be
presented
to
the
city
council
for
approval
via
a
separate
agenda
item.
B
Will
they
be
doing
the
supplemental
fire
as
well,
seeing
as
we
lost
our
actuary
or
is
that
going
to
be
a
separate.
B
E
M
M
As
indicated
in
the
performance
information
provided
in
the
agenda
item
they
have
under
performed
versus
their
index
and
their
public
sector
peers.
Over
the
last
three
year,
five
year
and
ten
year,
the
trustees
previously
approved
moving
the
majority
of
the
monies
invested
with
voya
to
a
northern
trust
index
fund.
B
L
Good
morning
again
request
to
approve
the
new
hires
for
acceptance
into
the
pension
plan.
As
listed.
F
B
N
N
N
N
The
major
accomplishments
of
the
plan
was
that
the
plan
initially
created
the
cultural
affairs
division,
which
was
partnered
and
in
the
public,
I'm
sorry
in
the
parks
and
recreation
department.
It
has
also
established
the
public
art
design
program
in
2005,
which
set
aside
one
percent
of
the
total
construction
value
of
capital
improvement
projects
for
on-site
public
artwork.
N
It
also
adopted
the
public,
art
and
private
development
ordinance,
which
went
into
effect
in
2006,
and
this
put
a
mandated
one
percent
on
all
project
values
over
five
million
dollars
for
private
development
programs.
They
were
either
to
provide
on-site
public
artwork
or
donate
to
the
city's
public
art
fund,
at
a
rate
of
0.75,
of
their
job
value.
N
This
transitioned
to
a
voluntary
program
in
2013
following
case
law
and
different
happenings
around
the
country
with
challenges
to
impact
fees,
and
so
it
was
advised
that
we
transitioned
to
a
voluntary
program
so
that
we
still
had
the
program
on
the
books.
Developers
could
still
participate
if
they
wished
and
we
did
have
some
good
participation
in
that,
although
it
has
declined.
Since
then,
organizations
such
as
the
opal
sands
and
the
bay
care
facility
out
on
drew
street
voluntarily
commissioned
artwork
by
some
very
talented
local
artists.
N
This
is
one
of
our
new
murals
as
part
of
the
cra's
downtown
mural
program.
This
is
by
dos,
and
this
is
located
at
the
franklin
street
building
on
the
east.
Facade
das
is
a
worldwide
artist,
but
originally
was
born
here
in
pinellas
county
and
went
to
pinellas
tech
for
his
art
degree.
So
it's
good
to
have
someone
come
back
home
and
do
a
very
nice
project
like
this.
N
So,
with
new
times
and
new
considerations,
a
budget
was
allocated
for
a
updated
plan
in
fiscal
year.
1920.
this
was
to
understand
community
needs
and
prepare
a
vision
for
the
future.
We
wanted
to
build
on
the
accomplishments
of
the
2002
plan,
evaluate
current
program
in
the
community.
Both
public
and
private
engage
public
feedback
exercises
to
make
sure
that
we're
talking
to
a
wide
span
of
commenters
and
participants,
as
well
as
leaders
in
the
community
and
develop
key
strategies
and
actions
for
the
next
five
to
seven
years
to
guide
our
progress.
N
N
This
is
artist
yala
ford,
with
her
signal
box,
wrap
antiqua
via
this
was
commissioned
by
the
clearwater
arts
alliance
as
part
of
their
thinking
outside
the
box
program,
and
you
undoubtedly
have
seen
many
of
these
around
the
community.
As
it's
been
a
very
successful
program,
the
public
art
fund
with
the
partner
guard
and
development
board
has
sponsored
a
number
of
these
boxes,
as
well
out
of
their
micro
grant
program.
N
Is
it
provided
by
the
city
from
a
private
agency
such
as
dunedin,
fine
arts
center,
the
my
favorite
art
place
on
hercules
and
other
instructional
workshops,
as
well
as
st
petersburg
college,
their
drew
street
campus
and
the
art
programming
and
the
major
that
they
have
there
and
then
looking
into
the
potential
of
partnerships
with
new
and
emerging
organizations,
as
well
as
strengthening
existing
partnerships
that
we
have
and
then
finally,
to
determine
the
utilization
and
potential
of
ongoing
programs.
N
There
was
a
rigorous
public
feedback
exercise
in
which
there
were
numerous
public
meetings.
Kogud
was
a
bit
challenging
in
gathering
people
together,
but
we
used
the
the
resources
available
to
us
to
hold
virtual
interviews
and
some
small
interviews,
where
possible,
also
targeted
stakeholders
to
get
the
most
current
information
to
see
what
their
organizations
are
doing,
as
well
as
being
community
catalysts,
reporting
back
on,
what's
happening
in
their
neighborhoods
and
their
organization,
also
essential
individuals
and
organizations
that
provide
critical
services
to
our
arts
and
cultural
community.
N
And
then
we
convened
a
future
of
the
arts
and
culture
and
clearwater
panel
that
assembled
a
number
of
arts
and
cultural
leaders,
as
well
as
local
artists,
to
speak
to
how
their
organization
is
continuing
their
operations
in
the
covid
and
post-covet
era
and
how
they
are
reaching
out
to
new
audiences
at
diversifying
their
programs.
So
we
have
mark
ayling
from
mga,
sculpture,
studio
sharon,
reed
kane
from
ruthenford
hall,
barbara,
st
clare
from
creative
pinellas,
roberta
clark
from
clearwater
arts
alliance,
beth
wormath,
who
is
a
muralist
here
in
clearwater
and
amanda
golden,
was
our
mc.
N
Now,
from
the
new
updated
plan,
we
had
a
series
of
strategic
strategies
and
actions
for
guiding
cultural
development
and
investment
in
the
arts.
There
were
seven
strategies
focused
into
three
target
areas:
public
art,
cultural
growth
and
place
based
investments
and
so
strategy.
Number
one
in
public
art
is
to
strengthen
the
identity
of
neighborhoods
through
an
investment
in
public
art
at
the
neighborhood
level.
N
Here's
a
current
heat
map
of
the
proliferation
of
public
art
here
in
the
city.
This
is
at
a
one
mile
radius.
The
lighter
colors
are
future
projects.
The
darker
purple
color
are
existing
projects.
So,
as
you
can
see,
there
are
some
targeted
areas
within
the
city
that
we
would
like
to
diversify
and
begin
programming
within.
N
N
Strategy.
Three
is
also
in
public
art
to
invest
in
iconic,
public
art
and
strategic
locations
to
bolster
the
public
art
experience.
This
would
be
a
prime
location
within
imagine,
clearwater
investing
in
a
large-scale
iconic
piece
that
would
become
a
visual
reference.
In
addition
to
the
many
improvements
that
are
done
at
the
site,
we've
found
that
often
a
signature
investment
in
public
art
can
serve
as
a
marketing
tool
as
well
as
media
presence,
and
you
know
and
being
part
of
a
community
process.
N
N
Additionally,
strategy
5
implement
programs
that
build
the
capacities
of
the
arts
and
culture
sector
to
be
more
unified
in
their
vision
towards
the
same
goal.
Just
because
we
are
different
agencies
does
not
mean
we
need
to
compete
with
one
another.
Often
our
goals
are
the
same,
create
inroads
to
art
and
creative
industries
as
well
as
diversify
and
build
the
creative
economy
here
in
clearwater.
N
Here
we
have
needan
fine
arts
center's
wheels
on
wheels
program.
This
is
a
mobile
clay
and
pottery
class
that
travels
through
different
areas
of
the
community.
It's
very
popular
and
then
lastly,
strategy.
Six
define
spaces
in
clearwater
that
an
investment
in
the
arts
can
be
concentrated
for
maximum
effect,
essentially
seeing
areas
where
people
congregate
and
arrive
at
locations
that
a
investment
in
the
arts
will
be
significant
because
it
is
in
areas
that
they
travel
through
on
a
daily
basis.
N
Finding
those
hubs
of
trails
and
multi-use
bike
corridors
looking
to
the
pinellas
trail
and
then
also
recreation,
centers
and
community
centers,
particularly
in
the
neighborhoods,
where
we're
looking
to
expand
those
offerings
and
finally
strategy.
Seven
support
neighborhoods
through
broadening
and
diversifying
arts
experiences
getting
back
to
a
neighborhood-centric
program
where
we
are
responsive
in
our
programming,
ensuring
that
we're
reaching
the
community
and
being
responsive
and
active
to
the
initiatives
and
developments
that
they
wish
to
see
in
their
own
arts
and
culture
programming
and
trying
to
be
as
responsive
as
possible.
N
E
Can
you
strategy,
one
is
strengthen
the
and
the
identity
of
neighborhoods
through
an
investment
in
public
art
at
the
neighborhood
level.
What
what
does
that
look
like?
Is
that,
like
murals
on
walls
or
sculptures
or.
N
N
E
And
the
murals
okay
and
then
on
the
strategy,
two
expand
funding
through
that
development,
the
percent
for
art
and
private
development
ordinance.
But
you
had
said
earlier
that
that
was
legally
challenged.
So
is
there
hope
that
we
can
like
incentivize
or
encourage
that
or
like
have
a
different
ordinance.
G
That's
what
I
was
going
to
going
to
speak
to
so,
as
mr
hubbard
pointed
out,
I
mean,
are
a
hurry
of
it.
There
may
be
ways
to
reinstate
that
program,
but
I'd
like
to
have
that
discussion
with
each
council
member.
There
is
some
legal
risk
there.
B
It
was
wonderful
back
in
the
day
because
we
did
get
a
lot
of
the
redevelopment
that
occurred
out
on
the
beach.
Most
of
those
projects
were
well
above
five
million
dollars,
and
so
almost
all
of
them
took
advantage
of
or
didn't
have
a
choice,
but
they
also
did
not
give
us
the
money.
They
didn't
opt
for
the
75
basis
points,
they
did
the
art
on
site
and
it
was
a
shame
because
we
were
getting
a
critical
mass
of
art
throughout
the
city.
G
There
there
is
some
case
law
change
in
2013
from
the
u.s
supreme
court
that
has
made
this
more
challenging.
There
may
be
some
ways
to
mitigate
that,
but
I'd
like
to
brief
each
of
you
on
that
before
we
go
down
that
path.
E
And
then,
on
strategy
force,
I
have
a
hard
time
envisioning,
what
that
is
at
the
city
level,
strengthen
existing
programs
and
city
departments
through
expansion
of
offerings
and
injection
of
creativity.
So
what
might
that
look
like
for
our
city
department?
Just.
N
Providing
the
potential
of
having
an
artist
come
in
and
speak
with
staff,
whether
it's
regular
operations
or
whether
it's
interfacing
with
the
public
artists,
are
natural
problem
solvers,
and
they
tend
to
think
so
far
out
of
the
box
that
sometimes
it's
in
a
different
zip
code,
but
a
lot
of
times.
They
can
look
at
the
actual
structure
of
things
and
it's
there
if
the
department
or
the
division
is
interested
in
it
of
either
injecting
creativity
on
a
daily
basis,
improving
employee
morale,
creating
new
avenues
of
employee
expression
or
looking
to
our
interactions
with
the
public.
N
E
And
and
then
have
we
ever
thought
about
oh
strategy,
six
first
define
spaces
within
clearwater
that
investment
in
the
arts
can
be
concentrated
for
maximum
effect
and
you
I
just
had
a
question
we're
talking
about
you
in
your
discussion.
It
sounds
like
maximum
exposure.
I
didn't
know
if
it
meant
maximum
economic
benefit
like
investing
in
something
iconic
by
imagine,
clearwater,
that's
going
to
have
you
know
potential
economic
payoff,
or
is
it
just
exposure
or
a
combination
of
both.
E
Okay
and
then,
when,
when
we
talk
about
arts,
are
you
thinking
or
have
we're
thinking
about
poetry
and
literature
as
well
as
drama
okay,
yeah.
N
Visual
performance,
arts,
literary
arts,
the
entire
gamut,
although
visual
arts
often
are
the
the
focus
of
programs
like
this,
it
really
much
more
ephemeral
arts
as.
O
N
As
dance
theater
spoken
word,
music,
they're,
they're,
all
avenues
of
exploration.
N
N
They
assisted
and
met
with
our
consultants
as
key
strategic
partners.
Okay,
yes,
thank
you.
C
Question
got
answered,
I
mean
I,
I
was
just
you
know
you
and
I
were
both
on
the
on
the
council
at
the
time
when
we
implemented
the
one
percent
and
we
thought
we'd
hit
a
home
run
and
then
we
ran
into
a
little
legal
issue,
and
I
was
just
you
know:
gonna
get
clarification
on
where
we
stand
right
now,
because
I
mean,
if
there's
a
way
to
do
a
program
similar
to
that,
but
do
it
within
the
confines
of
what
the
supreme
court
says
we
can,
then
you
know
it's
something
we
definitely
need
to.
F
Yeah,
I
was
a
little
disappointed
before
when
you
and
I
talked
we
had
somebody
want
to
donate
art,
and
I
thought
it
would
be
a
good
thing,
but
I
don't
know
if
he
was
you
know,
demanding
that
it
be
put
in
a
certain
place.
I
thought
we
maybe
could
find
you
know
arts
in
the
eye
of
the
beholder,
so
sometimes
that
you
know
you
don't
agree
that
it
might
not
be
the
best
thing,
but
was
that
a
just
was
that
that
he
didn't
want
it
to
be
put,
except
in
a
certain
place.
F
C
Okay,
but
I
also,
but
I
also
kind
of
piggybacking
on
something
that
councilman
beckham
said
when
we
think
of
imagine
clearwater,
I
I
do
think
it
would
be
a
very
worthwhile
investment
if
we
can
find
the
right
piece
to
have
a
you
know.
Philadelphia
is
known
for
the
love
structure,
strat
statue
and
and
whatnot,
and
I
I
think,
and
rocky
and
rocky
up
in
the
rocky
I
hate
the
thing.
How
many
times
I
ran
those
steps,
but
really.
C
Random
not
not
recently,
but
I
mean
I
think
it
would
be
money
well
spent
if
we
could
find
that
iconic
piece
of
artwork.
That
would
be
in
imagine
clearwater
be
in
that
park
for
decades
to
come.
That
would
really
be
a
signature
piece
for
the
city,
so
I
look
forward
to
trying
to
find
that.
B
Well,
that
art
down
at
with
the
lights
down
at
the
pier
has
become
you
know
an
attraction
in
and
of
itself.
So
I
think
we
ought
to
be
looking
for
something
along
those
lines.
J
Approved
contract
purchase
order
to
synergistic
llc
of
texas,
of
dallas
texas
for
the
creation
and
implementation
of
a
municipal
energy
savings
program
to
include
a
third
party
software
in
the
amount
of
sixteen
thousand
nine
hundred
pursuant
to
rfp
15-20
energy
savings
program
and
authorized
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
the
same
prior
to
ms
boyle.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
I
am
very
supportive
of
this
analysis.
J
P
As
a
result,
we
are
seeking
approval
of
a
contract
with
synergistic,
to
implement
an
energy
conservation
program
for
the
city's
facilities,
and
we
are
excited
to
elaborate
on
that
program.
Today.
Synergistic
has
partnered
with
many
organizations
across
the
country,
most
locally
locally
pinellas
county
schools
and
alachua
county
to
pair
energy
management
software
with
behavior-based
energy
conservation
programs
to
decrease
consumption.
P
I
Good
morning,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
council,
thanks
for
having
me
thank
you,
sheridan
I've
got
a
champ
here,
I'm
telling
you
what
my
name
is
steve
jones,
I'm
with
synergistic.
It's
it's
very
good
to
be
here.
Thanks
for
inviting
me
down
to
clearwater
I'll,
come
to
clearwater
anytime,
I
get
the
opportunity
I
retired,
from
the
city
of
montgomery.
26
years
worked
for
the
mayor
there,
it's
good
to
be
back
in
city
council
meetings
on
this
side
instead
of
on
the
other
side.
I
So
thanks
for
having
me
a
little
bit
about
how
I
got
here
to
kind
of
put
this
in
context,
the
city
of
government
2016
was
applying
for
the
all-american
city
award
and
it's
just
a
municipal
award
that
goes
out
throughout
the
country
and
we
were
lacking
in
the
sustainability
portion
of
that
program.
We
just
we
had
an
energy
manager,
nothing
like
you
have
here,
but
the
mayor
came
to
me
and
said
you
know
I
want
to
go
green.
I
I
want
to
go
green
and
I
mean
it
and
he
left
my
office
and
I
turned
around
and
googled.
How
do
you
go
green?
I
put
together
an
ad
hoc
team
and
after
about
six
months
I
said
to
the
mayor.
I
said:
if
you
want
to
say
we
have
a
program
for
the
council.
We
have
a
program
if
we
really
want
to
have
a
serious
attempt
at
this
and
make
this
count.
I
We
need
to
go
to
somebody
that
knows
what
they're
doing
montgomery
public
schools
at
the
time
was
a
partner
with
synergistic
and
weekly
on
the
news.
There
was
something
celebrating
the
conservation
efforts
the
public
school
was
doing,
and
we
basically
said
if
our
kids
are
doing
it,
it's
time
for
us
to
get
involved.
We
partnered
with
synergistic
and
it's
just
been
a
fantastic
program.
I
I
retired
went
to
work
for
the
company
because
it's
something
I
firmly
believe
in,
and
I
think
it's
been
about
a
year
and
a
half
y'all
put
out
an
rfp
for
a
behavioral
change,
we're
honored
to
be
selected
so
through
all
of
that
we're
here
today
and
I'd
like
to
go
over
this
presentation
I'll,
keep
it
I'll,
keep
it
concise
questions
anytime
during
or
at
the
end.
So
I
can.
Just
here
we
go.
As
I
said
earlier,
we've
been
around
about
35
years
about
1500
partners
throughout
the
country,
municipalities,
higher
education,
k-12.
I
The
company
was
started
by
the
gentleman
that
still
runs
the
company.
He
was
a
school
board.
Member
was
passionate
about
conservation
in
west
texas,
which
is
a
hard
place
to
be
passionate
about
conservation,
but
he
made
this
work,
and
today
the
company,
like,
I
said,
has
over
1500
clients
throughout
the
country.
I
I
We
feel
that
education
is
so
much
more
productive
than
dictation
of
what
you're
doing
as
we
make
these
changes
as
we
reduce
the
carbon
footprint
as
we
reduce
the
energy
consumption,
we're
explaining
to
the
public
and
to
your
staff,
why
we're
doing
this
and
then
we
celebrate
the
fruits
of
their
labor?
We
have
found
that
is
so
much
more
successful
to
involve
people
instead
of
just
dictating
to
do
something
and
walk
away.
I
I
We
like
to
get
the
word
out
of
what
you're
doing
when
I
worked
for
the
mayor,
I
was
passionate
about.
I
have
a
responsibility
to
be
a
good
steward
of
the
taxpayer
dollar.
I
took
that
very
seriously.
We
found
that
energy
consumption
was
something
that
we
could
actually
tighten
up
a
little
bit
on
and,
and
we
did
third
component-
it's
been
the
backbone
of
what
this
company's
done
for
35
years.
It's
never
been
as
prevalent
as
it
has
been
in
the
last
couple
years
as
healthy
buildings,
we
concentrate
heavily
on
co2
emissions.
I
In
my
opinion,
they're
one
of
the
most
understaffed
and
unrecognized
organizations
in
the
government
we're
here
to
help
them
handle
the
things
that
they
just
don't
have
enough
bandwidth
to
do.
I
know
it
is
in
central
alabama
imagine
down
here
in
florida
in
the
summer
they're
chasing
their
tails
with
comfort,
complaints,
air
conditioning
issues.
We
want
to
step
in
and
be
a
part
of
that
to
help
them
and
then
finally,
we
create
a
funding
source.
I
It's
just
pragmatically
there
that
if
you
reduce
the
amount
of
energy
you
spend,
you
are
going
to
put
money
back
into
your
budget.
Not
very
often
does
the
local
utility
provider
call
and
just
say,
we'd
like
to
reduce
what
you
pay
per
kilowatt
hour.
I
So
we
find
that
reducing
the
amount
of
energy
that
you
use
is
a
good
funding
source.
It
funds
this
program,
it
funds
this
program,
we
put
a
roof
on
the
rosa
parks,
library
in
montgomery
and
there's
nothing
better
to
have
a
sign
out
front.
That
says
the
funding
for
this
project
or
this
project
was
funded
by
the
conservation
efforts
of
the
citizens
and
the
workers
of
the
city
of
montgomery.
It's
a
powerful
thing.
I
I
We
average
about
25
reduction
over
the
country
with
our
clients,
some
of
them
much
more,
some
of
them
a
little
bit
less,
but
on
the
average
25
percent
that
energy
star
recognition
up
there
at
the
top
over
13
000
energy,
star
recognitions
for
facilities,
what
that
means
and
apologize.
If
I'm
telling
you
something
you
know,
that
means
when
you
get
an
energy
star
certified
building
that
you
are
in
the
top
25
in
energy
conservation
and
sustainability
of
buildings
like
yours
within
the
country.
I
It's
a
pretty
powerful
thing
to
get
that
energy
star
rating
on
a
city
hall,
on
a
library
where
your,
where
your
constituents
know
that
you're
serious
about
what
you're
doing
there
is
an
award
that
is,
the
energy
star,
sustained
excellence
award.
It
is
given
by
the
epa
and
the
department
of
energy
to
60
organizations
throughout
the
country
annually.
It
is
not
something
that
you
apply,
for
it
is
something
that
the
epa
hands
out
to
organizations
that
are
doing
tip
of
the
spear
work
in
sustainability.
I
Synergistic
has
had
it
for
12
years
in
a
row,
so
we're
very
proud
of
that.
I
don't
like
to
pat
myself
on
the
back,
but
I
think
that's
something
worth
noting
that's
dr
grego.
Here
in
pinellas
county,
we
have
over
200
pinellas
county
schools
and
facilities
that
are
energy
star
rated.
That
is
a
big
thing.
I
I'm
sure
you
all
know
dr
grego.
He
is
one
of
the
most
humble
men
that
I
have
dealt
with.
I
just
love
being
around
him.
Clint
herbeck
over
there
as
well
unbelievable,
humble
man,
but
he
loves
to
talk
about
what
they're
doing
with
conservation.
He
is
proud
of
that
program.
We're
proud
to
partner
with
them.
I
How
does
this
work?
What
does
this
look
like?
You
have
already
have,
like,
I
said,
with
sheridan,
an
unbelievable
foundation
of
sustainability.
What
we
do
is
we're
going
to
hire
a
full-time
employee
and
assign
them
to
clearwater
their
only
job.
Their
only
concern
is
the
energy
conservation
plan
a
lot
of
times.
We
find
that
if
you
have
an
internal
energy
manager,
which
is
an
awesome
position
to
have
that
this
is
just
a
foundation
that
allows
them
to
be
successful.
I
It
is
not
uncommon
for
energy
managers
to
be
pulled
in
other
directions
as
the
year
progresses:
recycling
cng
those
kind
of
things,
and
that's
amazing,
but
what
we've
got
because
they
are
our
employee
is
they
are
100
dedicated
to
the
mission
here
you
see
a
list
of
those
experts,
the
the
subject
matter,
experts
on
the
left,
those
are
the
people
that
are
part
of
this
program
that
we
will
bring
in.
I
If
we
find
that
there
are
areas
within
the
organization
that
needs
a
little
more
attention
if
we're
looking
at
irrigation,
if
our
water
consumption
is
getting
a
little
higher
than
it
should
we're
going
to
bring
somebody
in
to
take
a
look
at.
Why
we're
doing
that?
That
is
part
of
our
program,
because
when
I
get
to
the
financing,
if
you
do
not
succeed
with
your
program,
we
do
not
succeed.
I
This
is
not
something
where
you
pay
us
a
fee
and
if
we
hit
the
mark,
that's
great,
if
we
don't
well,
that's
just
another
service
rendered
you'll
see
that
we
are
invested
in
being
a
partner
with
the
program
again
about
that
energy
specialist.
We
are
not
looking
for
hvac
mechanics.
We
are
not
looking
for
technicians,
we
are
looking
to
bring
people
in
here
that
know
the
culture
that
can
set
up
earth
day
in
the
library
and
have
go
speak
at
rotary
clubs
to
where
we
can
talk
about
what
we're
doing.
I
I
Accounts
payable,
gets
the
bills,
they
pay
them.
That's
the
way
it
works.
I
understand
they've
got
so
much
going
on.
You
may
not
have
somebody
internally,
that's
analyzing
your
bills.
Looking
at
why
january
of
2021
was
18
higher
than
january
of
20..
There
may
be
a
reason
for
that,
but
oftentimes
you
find
that
there
is.
There
are
billing
errors
that
you
just
don't
have
time
to
look
into.
That's
something
we
do.
I
I
will
not
say
it's
happening
here.
I
see
it
happens
all
over
the
time,
but
there
are
times
when
we
find
that
the
city
of
x,
y
or
z,
has
been
paying
the
utility
bills
for
a
facility
they
sold
five
years
ago,
and
it
was
just
never
in
somebody's
purview
to
where
they
followed
up
routinely
to
find
out.
If
that
service
has
been
transferred,
accounts
payable
gets
the
bill,
they
pay
it.
That's
just
that's
part
of
life,
we're
going
to
find
those
anomalies
and
get
those
fixed.
There's
a
lot
of
that.
I
This
software
is
something
that
everybody
has
access.
That's
outward
leaning.
I
can
go
to
my
phone
and,
of
course,
you'll
get
the
same
type
of
access
and
find
out
what
every
building
is
doing
with
reduction.
What's
their
carbon
footprint,
how
many
greenhouse
emissions
does
it
equal
for
what
the
library
has
done
last
year?
I
How
many
trees
sequestered
is
what
your
efforts
are
doing
equating
to
for
the
environment,
so
it's
a
nicety,
not
a
necessity
for
you,
but
it's
something
that
that
we're
proud
of
and
we're
proud
to
allow
our
partners
to
have
a
little
bit
more
about
the
technology.
I
don't
want
to
get
you
know.
I
I
I
I
don't
so
we're
going
to
get
those
readings
and
if
you
can
just
look
at
the
day
in
the
life
of
a
building,
it
comes
on
at
seven
o'clock.
It
runs
through
the
day
and
then
it's
designed
to
go
back
down
at
6
30
coast
around
to
the
beginning
of
the
next
day
and
keep
coming
on.
That's
the
cycle,
saturday
and
sunday.
I
Of
course,
it
turns
off
if
it's
unoccupied
well,
if
that
facility
does
not
get
back
to
where
it's
supposed
to
be
at
six
o'clock
within
15
at
6
15
we're
going
to
get
an
alert.
The
energy
specialist
is
going
to
get
an
alert
that
says
that
the
library
is
still
running
we're
going
to
go
out
and
find
out
what
that
reason
is.
It
may
be
an
event.
Maybe
one
of
these
beautiful
art
shows
that
you're
having,
but
if
it's
not,
then
that
means
there's
something
wrong
with
the
equipment.
I
There's
something
going
on
with
the
sensors
and
if
somebody's,
not
walking
through
your
building
at
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
routinely
they'll,
never
know
that
it's
on
and
it'll
continue
to
run.
We
are
in
the
facilities,
doing
audits,
probably
80
percent
of
the
time
when
nobody's
in
the
building
we
inspect
what
we
expect.
This
is
not
an
eight
to
five.
We
just
go
around
and
monitor
your
buildings.
We
are
looking
at
them
on
a
micromanaging
level.
Oh
here's!
My
picture,
I'm
sorry!
I
So
if
we
see
that
that
battleship
looking
thing
that
it's
supposed
to
come
on,
on
the
left
hand,
side
about
6
30
run
through
the
day,
but
that
dotted
green
line
on
the
right
hand,
side
is
where
it
is
supposed
to
have
gotten
back
down
to,
but
it
did
not.
There
is
an
issue
there.
That
is
something
that
we
get.
We
will
go
look
at
and
we
will
find
that's
why
we've
saved
pinellas
county
public
schools
over
47
million
dollars
in
energy
over
six
years,
seven
years,
I'm
sorry
47
million
dollars.
I
That's
a
big
number
healthy
buildings.
Again.
This
is
something
that
I'm
passionate
about.
I
wish
I
would
have
had
this
expertise:
co2
levels.
We
are
monitoring
the
co2
levels
in
all
of
your
facilities
and
I
think,
as
a
council
member
and
an
elected
official,
that
it
is
incumbent
upon
us
to
let
our
citizens
know
that
are
using
these
facilities
that
we
are
looking
after
your
best
interest.
We
are
monitoring.
What's
going
on
in
these
facilities
outside
air
is
a
huge
issue
with
what
we
do:
ventilation
measuring
the
air.
I
It's
unfortunate
that
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
that
people
have
been
selling
equipment
that
will
end
up
being,
they
were
selling.
We
are
a
third
party
vendor
neutral
company.
We
will
advise
you,
as
you
ask
on
any
of
these
types
of
upgrades
that
you
do.
If
you
have
construction
projects,
we
will
look
at
that
and
advise
you
on.
What
we
feel
like
is
the
best
fit
again.
I
We
are
vendor
neutral,
so
we
don't
have
a
dog
in
the
fight,
but
we
want
to
make
sure-
and
I
you
know
I
haven't
my
uncle's
an
architect.
Everybody
loves
architects,
but
a
lot
of
times.
The
billing
is
a
percentage
of
what
the
total
construction
cost
is
we'd
like
to
give
you
advice
on
what
we
feel
like
would
be
the
best
fit
for
some
of
these
upcoming
projects.
I
All
right
there's
some
of
your
kids.
This
is
one
of
the
things
again
that
I'm
very
passionate
about.
We
have
something
called
synergistic
community,
we're
very
heavy
in
the
k-12
world,
but
we're
getting
more
heavy
in
the
municipal
world
at
earth
day
we
like
to
have
sustainability
fairs
at
libraries,
community
centers,
to
where
we
ask
the
public
to
come
in,
and
we
show
you
what
you
we've
been
doing.
The
city
has
been
doing
for
the
environment
within
their
area.
I
When
I
was
a
kid
they
had
junior
patrol
50
years
ago,
and
I
was
a
proud
junior
patrolman,
because
I
had
a
special
uniform
and
walked
around
the
school,
and
I
was
I
thought
I
was
something
else.
We
do
the
same
things
with
this
program.
Pinellas
county
has
about
40
000
junior
energy
managers
walking
around
their
schools
and
they're,
taking
that
home
to
their
parents.
I
guarantee
you
and
saying
mom
dad.
I
We
don't
need
the
air
conditioner
on
62
today.
Do
you
know
what
that's
doing
to
the
carbon
footprint?
It's
just
something
that
we
are
we're
very
proud
of,
and
we
we
like
to
celebrate
those
successes,
a
little
something
about
the
city
of
montgomery,
where
I
came
from
there's
a
quote
down
there
for
the
mayor
and
he
sent
a
message
to
the
world
that
montgomery
cared
about
the
environment.
I
He
does
not
say
anywhere
in
his
quote
that
I
told
steve
jones
to
go
green,
but
he
does
say
that
this
is
something
that
we
were
we
were
excited
about,
and
it
is.
It
is
something
that
shows
the
community
that
you
are
serious
about
the
environment
last
slide
there.
That
number
is
37.
That
slide
is
a
little
old.
I
checked
it
just
before
I
got
up
here:
it's
42
million
dollars.
They
have
reduced
their
energy,
spend
over
five
years
six
years
by
22
and
they've
reduced
their
energy
use
per
square
foot
by
37
percent.
I
That
is
amazing.
That
is
something
that
they
are
very
proud
of
and
we're
very
proud
to
be
partners
with
them.
We
feel
there's
no
doubt
that
that
we
can
be
successful
here.
We
we're
as
picky
about
who
we
do
business
with,
as
you
are
who
you
do
business
with,
and
that
is
a
true
statement,
because
our
reputation
is
on
the
line.
I
You've
got
with
sheridan
and
the
team
that
you've
got
right
now
right
here,
you're
already
leaning
forward
you're
already
leaning
forward,
but
she
and
I
have
had
the
conversation
she
just
doesn't-
have
the
capacity
to
touch
the
entire
city
of
clearwater.
That's
where
we're
going
to
come
in
and
make
that
capacity
work
a
little
bit
about
the
finance
and
budget.
There
is
no
capital
outlay.
This
is
not
a
esco
program
to
where
you
finance
this
program
for
20
years.
There
is
no
capital
outlay.
There
is
no
bonded
indebtedness
with
our
program.
I
I
Again
it
is
a
total
partnership.
If
you
do
not
succeed,
we
do
not
succeed,
and
that
means
we
are
invested
with
you.
The
third
party,
accounting
software-
that's
that
is
mentioned
on
the
agenda-
is
with
energy
cap.
They
are
the
leading
accounting
software
for
energy
conservation,
doj
doe,
all
use
that
some
say
it's
sixteen
thousand
dollars.
Why
don't
you
just
pay
that
out
of
your
portion,
because
it's
really
not
a
large
amount
of
money.
I
We
do
not
pay
that.
We
have
never
paid
that,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
totally
autonomous
from
the
measurement
verification
of
this
program.
We're
not
going
to
tell
you
what
we're
saving
you,
a
third-party
accounting
company,
is
going
to
tell
you
what
you're
saving
and
by
you
paying
them
that
gets.
That
makes
sure
that
we're
not
grading
our
own
papers,
so
that
is
the
only
upfront
cost
that
we
have
with
the
program.
I
C
Mr
jones,
I
appreciate
the
presentation.
I
am
I'm
very
impressed.
I
have
spoken
with
dr
grego
and
he
is,
as
you
say,
one
of
the
most
humble
people
you'll
ever
speak
with,
but
he
is
very
enthusiastic
about
what
you
all
are
doing
for
him.
I
I
think
this
is
definitely
a
a
move
in
the
direction
we
need
to
be
going.
C
I
think
the
you
know
the
number
that
you
know
the
16
000
is
nothing
and
you
know
if
we
can,
we
can
save
money
on
the
back
end
of
it
and
funds.
The
whole
thing
I
think,
url's
track
record,
speaks
for
itself,
so
I
think
you
know
this
is
definitely
a
good.
F
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
this
is
I.
What
really
impresses
me
is
the
team
that
you
can
put
together
of
experts,
I
mean
sharon's
do
sheriff
is
doing
a
great
job,
but
when
it
comes
down
to
really
picking
apart,
where
we're
deficient,
you've
got
a
whole
team
of
people
that
can
come
in
experts
in
each
field.
That
can
tell
us,
you
know
where
we
need
to
do
better
and
that
part
of
it.
I
really
like
it's
just.
F
I
do
have
a
question
on
the
the
length
of
is
this
a
year
to
year
contra
how?
How
long
does
this
come
from?
So
it's
a.
F
I
And
we
do
that,
sir,
because
we're
going
to
be
pushing
the
car
uphill
for
the
first
year
year
and
a
half
we're
going
to
come
in
and
build
an
envelope
of
every
one
of
your
buildings.
That's
I
think
it's
15
000
or
more
square
feet,
so
we're
it's
going
to
take
us
a
while
to
build
that
envelope
of
all
of
these
buildings.
So
we're
going
to
be
in
the
red
for
a
while,
which
we
understand,
but
that's
the
reason
that
we
stretch
it
out
that
long.
F
H
Councilmember
bunker:
a
wonderful
presentation,
I
I
definitely
think
we
need
to
go
with
you
and
I
also
just
wanted
to
say
I'm
I'm
thrilled
that
mr
jennings
has
been
eager
to
jump
into
this
as
well
and
up
our
green
game.
E
Well,
I
can
barely
contain
myself,
I'm
absolutely
thrilled
it's
like
oh
happy
day,
so
I'm
excited,
I
I'm
wondering
if
we
can,
at
future
meetings,
think
about
establishing
a
green
fund
with
the
millions
of
dollars
that
we're
going
to
be
saving
with
you
and
earmark
those
for
additional
savings,
as
if,
when
we
save
25
here
and
we
have
millions
of
dollars,
we
earmarked
that
then
for
solar
to
help
us
save
even
more
money,
and
so
I
think
you
know
that
can
be
a
a
future
discussion.
E
But
I
love
what
you're
doing,
and
I
we've
spoken
with
mr
herbick
and
and
feel
real
comfortable.
I
need
a
question,
though,
so,
if
you're
going
to
be
being
paid
by
half
of
our
savings
and
you're
here
to
do
to
fund
what
we
need
and
to
look
at
our
buildings,
I'm
thinking
are,
will
you
be
looking
at
our
buildings
related
to
imagine
clearwater
at
no
extra
cost
and
helping
us
make
those
as
energy
efficient
as
possible?
E
I
I
Every
building
we're
not
gonna,
go
for
a
community
center.
We're
not
gonna,
go
build
an
envelope
of
a
800,
900
000
square
foot
building.
We
will
still
be
monitoring
that
building,
but
we
won't
get
to
the
in-depthness,
because
it's
just
not
financially
feasible
to
spend
that
much
time
building
that
envelope
when
we
can
just
monitor
it.
When
I
say
the
ones
that
are
over
15
we'll
do
an
extensive
when
I
say
extensive
r
factor
of
the
windows,
what
type
of
roof
do
you
have
on
it?
I
What
type
of
systems
do
you
have
in
it
so
that
we
can
play
with
it
in
a
little
more
in-depth
way,
but
everything
that
you
own?
We
will
touch
some
caveats
if
you
rent
facilities
to
outside
agencies,
if
there's
something
contractually
with
them
that
you
have
agreed
to
their,
they
can
have
the
air
conditioner
on
24
7.
You
know
that's
something
that
we
won't
we
won't
get
into,
but
we
follow
osha
and
ashrae
standards
and
ashrae
ashrae
is
the
bible
on
health
and
air
conditioning
monitoring.
I
I
No,
we
will
hire
somebody
locally
and
then,
of
course,
you,
whoever
you
deem
necessary.
I
hate
to
keep
saying
the
word
sheridan,
but
she's
she's,
the
go-to
person.
They
will
have
a
very
strong
hand
in
who
we
hire
we're.
Not
gonna
bring
somebody
from
baylor
new
jersey
into
clearwater
and
try
to
change
culture,
so
we
got
to
make
sure
it's
a
the
right
fit,
but
we
got
to
make
sure
that
it's
somebody
that
you
agree
with
as
well:
retired
teachers,
retired
coaches.
I
E
I
Yeah
we
won't
step
in
and
be
your
third
party
rep,
but
we
will
definitely
be
involved
if
your
contractor
or
not
your
contractor.
If
your
city
inspector
has
some
questions
about
the
validity
or
has
some
issues,
we
will
definitely
take
a
look
at
that
and
give
some
recommendations.
We
have
phds
in
engineering,
there's
a
plethora
of
subject
matter,
experts
that
we
would
definitely
put
our
hands
on
what
you've
got
and
give
you
some
advice.
G
Mr
margolis,
thank
you
mayor.
I
just
want
to
underscore
the
point
that
this
is
a
five-year
commitment.
There
are
some
pretty
hefty
early
termination
fees
involved
in
this.
I
would
say
that
are
unusually
harsh
for
government
standards,
and
so
council
certainly
has
the
ability
to
approve
this
item.
This
may
very
well
prove
to
be
a
good
decision,
but
I
do
want
council
to
be
aware.
This
is,
should
be
viewed
as
a
five-year
commitment
for
council.
B
And
I
I
think
the
agenda
item
is
somewhat
unusual
and
that
we're
approving
this
software,
which
is
sixteen
thousand
dollars,
but
going
to
your
point
of
getting
into
a
five-year
commitment.
It
is
not
as
though
you
aren't
making
a
lot
of
money
and
I've
got
some
questions
either
for
mr
spoyle
or
mr
glouster.
I
don't
know
the
rfp
what
other
companies
were
finalists,
but
you
know
the
projected
savings
over
five
years
is
8.2
million
dollars.
B
Actually,
almost
8.3
of
that
the
gross
fee
that
synergistic
is
going
to
get
is
4.139
million
dollars.
You
know
this
is
not
just
an
altruistic
process.
This
is
a
cash
machine,
50
percent
I
find
almost.
I
can't
stomach
it.
I
don't
know
why
we
wouldn't
do
some
of
this
in-house
ourselves.
B
You've
got
to
tell
me
the
value,
add
on
this
and
what
other
companies,
because
back
in
2010
2011
we
had
honeywell
go
through
and
look
at
all
of
our
buildings
and
we
changed
thermostats
so
that
employees
couldn't
change
them
to
outrageous
levels,
be
it
70
degrees
or
80
degrees.
When
it
was
cold,
we
put
motion
sensors
in
most
of
the
rooms
so
that,
if
it
wasn't
occupied
the
lights
were
off.
We
looked
at
roofing
systems
and
windows
and
everything
else.
So
what
other
companies
were
in
this
process
that
did
not
float
to
the
top.
P
P
There
were
two
other
companies
that
responded
to
our
rfp
and,
I
will
say
they
scored
far
below
synergistic,
mostly
because
the
rfp
asked
for
a
behavior-based
program
right
where
the
city
wouldn't
pay
for
any
upfront
changes
and
equipment
like
we
did
with
the
honeywell
performance-based
contract
and
the
other
two
companies.
That
responded
were
basically
the
exact
replica
of
our
honeywell
contract,
where
we
would
pay
for
equipment
that
would
then
be
more
efficient
to
lower
our
energy
bills
or
with
synergistics.
P
They
responded
with
our
program
is
entirely
behavior-based
and
I
do
understand
you
know
the
concern
about
the
amount
with
the
50
50
split.
I
will
say
that
should
make
us
feel
a
little
bit
better
of
their
as
invested
as
we
are,
because
they
do
make
money
from
us
making
money
and
saving
energy,
and
otherwise
that
is
money
that
we
are
continuing
to
pay
to
our
utility.
So
otherwise
we're
we're
losing
that
money.
I
I
It's
going
to
be
about
26
of
that
to
fund
this
program
between
the
employee
between
the
visits.
Here
we
will
be
it's
it's
kind
of
an
inverted
funnel.
We
have
the
energy
specialist
at
the
bottom.
Then
we
have
a
client
manager
on
top
of
him
with
two
others
on
top
of
them,
we'll
probably
be
in
clearwater
between
10
and
11
times
a
month
with
outside
experts.
So
it's
a
you
know
it's
a
hands-on
process
to
where
we're
going
to
be
in
the
area.
That's
part
of
the
funding
that
it
takes
to
run
this
program.
I
I
Well,
I
would
if
it
was
a
50
with
no
investment
on
our
end,
I
could
I
definitely
understand
that
we
when
we
say
50
we're
not
retaining
50
as
profit.
It
is,
and
but
I
I
I
do
definitely
understand
that
that
is
a
large
number.
B
Senior
netfi
is
36
you're,
anticipating,
yes,
sir,
so
that's
still
pretty
pretty
sizable.
So
explain
to
me
if
we
have
systems
already
in
place
that
are
you're,
gonna
have
to
help
me
with
the
behavioral
improvements
when
we
control
behavior
to
some
extent,
how
do?
How
does
changing
behavior
save
us
money
if
we
don't
allow,
for
instance,
energy
to
be
wasted
by
keeping
lights
on
all
night
in
an
unoccupied,
building
or
keeping
the
air
down
at
an
unrealistic?
B
I
Behavioral
change
is
the
human
aspect
of
monitoring
all
of
your
facilities
and
what
your
set
energy
plan
is
for
set
points
runtimes
on
and
off
type
of
stuff.
So
when
I
say
behavioral
I
mean
today,
you
may
be
relying
on
honeywell
equipment
to
tell
you
if
it's
on
or
off
well,
when
you've
got
1.8
million
square
feet,
or
some
number
like
that.
So
where
we,
the
behavioral
part,
is
humans,
are
actually
tracking
monitoring
and
looking
at
your
facilities
and
how
they're
running
to
make
sure
that
they
are
staying
within
the
parameters
of
the
program.
I
Now,
on
top
of
that,
the
rest
of
the
stuff
that
comes
with
it
is
a
behavioral
component,
the
education,
those
kind
of
things,
but
when
just
changing
the
culture
of
somebody's
mindset
about
how
they
use
energy
is
not
the
savings.
It's
the
education
part,
the
behavioral
part
is.
We
are
actually
monitoring
all
of
your
facilities
to
where
they
are
not
running
at
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
or
lights
on
in
the
evening,
and
that's
where
we
find
the
savings.
I
I
The
program
that
we
are
proposing,
the
numbers
that
the
council
and
yourself
are
looking
at
is
as
if
you
never
replaced
a
piece
of
equipment
in
in
the
city
of
clearwater.
We
are
nothing
that
we
do
when
we
ever
say
if
you
would
have
put
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
into
the
hvac
system
of
the
library
we
could
have
got
to
that
number.
We
will.
This
is
completely
completely
with
what
you
have
currently
anything
that
you
want
to
do
autonomous
of
this
program.
I
If
you
want
to
set
those
funds
aside
and
do
an
improvement,
we
will
adjust
the
baseline
that
we
have
so
that
we
don't
get
any
credit
for
any
of
the
capital
expenditure
that
you
put
into
your
facilities,
so
there
nothing
that
we
have
that
we
have
ever
proposed
says:
we've
looked
at
your
buildings.
If
you
make
these
changes,
we'll
be
able
to
have
a
successful
program.
I
What
we
do
is
with
what
you
currently
have,
and
we
find
that
just
a
secondary
part
of
what
we
do
is
by
running
your
equipment
more
efficient.
It
is
actually
going
to
last
longer,
so
nothing
that
we
do
requires
you
to
make
any
adjustments.
Now
we
may
say
that
we
think
that
this
piece
of
equipment
over
here
is
about
time
that
it
gets
replaced,
but
we
will
never
say
if
you
don't
do
that.
We're
not
going
to
be
successful
here.
O
If
they're
super
successful,
that
would
say
that
we're
lacking
in
that
in
certain
areas
and
what
we've
been
doing
over
the
last
decade.
As
you
mentioned,
we
had
the
honeywell
performance
management
contract.
We
changed
out
a
lot
of
equipment.
We
changed
our
thinking
on
how
we
purchased
hvac
equipment
led,
went
to
led
lighting.
We
have
a
program
where
we're
changing
out
all
lights
to
led
the
thermostats.
You
mentioned
everything
that
you
mentioned
in
that
performance
contract
has
got
us
to
where
we
are
today.
O
If
there's
super
successful
technology
has
changed
over
the
last
decade,
of
course.
So
if
they're
super
successful,
that
means
we
might
have
been
lacking
in
some
areas
within
that
honeywell
performance
contract
and-
and
I
can't
stand
here
before
you
today
and
say
we
haven't
been-
I
believe
that
we've
gotten
good
savings
from
that
contract.
We
got
our
monies
worth
out
of
it,
and
this
may
be
just
a
logical
next
step,
based
on
where
technology
is
today.
H
H
You
folks
said
that
you
saved
them
five
million
dollars,
but
you
build
them
four
million
and
there's
a
a
bunch
of
other
examples
in
here
about
the
same
thing
in
texas
and
massachusetts
florida,
california,
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
look
at
all
of
these,
but
at
one
point
somebody
on
a
council
I
was
just
reading
had
said
this.
This
is
not
working.
H
I
Yeah,
yes,
sir,
there
are
the
articles
that
you
were
talking
about.
We
have
been
dealing
with
for
the
past,
I
think
three
years
it
was
an
art
on
the
daily
caller
tucker
cross
and
put
out
a
report
about
synergistic.
I
can
send
sheridan
the
actual
retractment
of
that
article
from
the
daily
caller.
That
was
quoting
the
people
in
fairfax
I
other
than
on
the
other
ones.
I
don't
I
don't
know
about
that,
and
I'd
be
glad
to
take
a
look
at
what
you've
got.
This
is
a
behavioral
change
program
and
yes,
organizations.
I
I
If
somebody
within
the
organization
doesn't
like
this,
because
maybe
it's
a
little
more
work
for
them
or
they
they're
not
comfortable
with
making
any
changes.
It
doesn't
take
much
for
somebody
to
make
a
comment
and
we
can't
we
can
do
nothing
more
than
point
to
the
people
that
we
do
business
with
currently
and
the
success
we've
had
there.
I
I
would
like
to
see
the
ones
that
you're
talking
about,
and
I
can
definitely
get
you
some
answers
about
that
sure.
H
H
I
think
it's
important
that
we
take
a
closer
look
here:
here's
another
article
that
you
charged
antioch
school
district
for
nearly
400
000
overcharged
schools,
a
hundred
thousand
for
water.
That's
just
a
headline.
B
Within
the
district,
I
think
we'll
keep
this
off
consent
and
in
between
now
and
thursday
we
can
get
some
more
research,
and
maybe
this
just
gets
continued
to
another
meeting.
So
but
I'm
not
ready
to
put
this
on
consent.
E
So
I
have
a
couple
things
when
we're
talking
about
behavioral
change,
especially
I
I'm
familiar
with
the
school
and
it's
interesting
you
mentioned
antioch
that
I
taught
at
antioch
antioch
community
high
school
in
northern
illinois.
So
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
same
one,
but
when
we
had
some
behavioral
change
initiatives
that
came
in
it
were
things
it
was
things
like
look.
You
teachers
can't
have
your
own
individual
refrigerators
in
your
classroom.
E
You
can't
have
your
coffee
makers
in
there
or
taking
out
individual
rooms
printers
and
having
a
centralized
printing
location,
and-
and
you
know
there
was
a
a
cultural
shift
and
some
people
didn't
like
it.
You
grumble
and
then
you
get
used
to
it,
but
those
things
are
big
energy,
suckers
and,
and
is
that
part
of
the
behavioral
change
that
you're
talking
about
little
things
like
that?
It's
not
an
expense.
It's
a
way
of
changing
how
you
operate.
The
other
thing
we
did
was
we
zoned
certain
hallways
for
after-school
activities.
E
The
other
thing
I
might
suggest,
if
there
is
some
hesitancy
or
there's
some
bad
press
out
there
and
I'm
not
familiar
with
that,
you
know-
maybe
we
could
ask
if
dr
grego
or
clint
herbeck
could
come
and
speak
about
their
personal
experience.
I
mean
they're
right
here,
they've
been
with
you
for
over
five
years.
I
E
He's
been
with
us
about
10
years,
okay,
so
he
has
long
term
experience,
and
I
would
say
that
you
know
I
I
agree.
A
50
cut
in
or
or
pay
based
on
savings
is
huge,
but
it's
only
for
a
five-year
contract.
After
that,
then
we're
collecting
all
of
the
savings
from
year.
Five
on
it's
ours
exclusively
right.
I
We
we
do
to
the
point
about
maybe
some
of
those
that
you
said
well.
They
paid
us
400
000,
but
they
only
saved
50,
000
or
whatever.
That
number
was.
They
don't
say
that
they
saved
every
dime.
They
gave
us
every
time
they
paid
for
their
service,
they
saved.
So
if
they
paid
us
400,
000
and
I'm
being
hypothetical
on
this
number,
that
means
they
had
to
have
saved
450
000
gross.
So
they
got
all
the
services
that
we
provided
all
of
that
for
free
and
then
we
gave
them
50
000.
I
You
know
they
made
50
000.
On
top
of
that,
so
any
of
those
that
you
see
and
again
there's
only
a
handful
of
these
out
there,
but
it
will
happen
if
energy
rates
change.
If
there
is
a
mass
influx
or
increase
in
your
energy
rate,
we
don't
control
that,
but
contractually
the
contract
that
owen
has
looked
at.
We
guarantee
that
you
will
never
pay
us
a
dime
more
than
you
save
you'll,
never
be
in
the
red.
I
So
yes,
they
may
not
net
the
same
thing
that
we
made,
but
we
have
provided
the
all
of
the
service
they
received.
Every
time
of
that
they
got
back
so
there
may
be
instances
a
few
that
are,
I
don't
want
to
say
upside
down,
but
you're,
not
your
net
savings
is
not
what
our
fee
is,
but
your
gross
savings
contractually
definitely
is.
H
Okay,
you
know
it's
just
we
think.
If
we're,
if
five
million
dollars
to
save
two
and
a
half
million
would
be
ours
and
and
you're
saying
that's
not
the
case,
the
net
could
be
substantially
lower
than
that.
Well,
you
would
be
guaranteed
two
and
a
half
million
dollars.
I
You
would
be
guaranteed
if
you
paid
us
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
for
our
services.
You
would
be
guaranteed
two
and
a
half
million,
but
if
you
do
have
a
program
that
does
not
embrace
what
you're
doing
so,
if,
if
you
have
a
city
or
a
district
that
says
we
don't
want
to
do
this,
we're
not
from
the
upper
management
we're
not
going
to
enforce
it.
I
Yeah
you're
not
going
to
get
the
25
percent
that
pinellas
has
got.
If
if
this
is
not
an
all-in
from
the
administration
that
says
this
is
what
we're
going
to
do
then
they're,
if
you
just
quit
halfway
through
and
say,
we
don't
really
care
about
the
program.
The
teachers
or
the
employees
can
do
whatever
they
want
with
the
energy
you're.
We're
definitely
not
going
to
see
the
savings,
and
those
may
be
examples
of
organizations
that
just
said
we
don't
care
anymore.
B
J
Q
You
chuckling
economic
development,
housing
department.
We
receive
an
annual
allocation
from
state
housing
initiative,
partnership
program
funds
and
for
that
reason
we
are
required
to
assemble
an
affordable
housing
advisory
committee
now
annually,
council
member
beckman
is
the
council
appointed
member
to
sit
on
that
on
that
committee.
The
committee's
role
is
to
evaluate
land
use
regulations,
ordinances,
our
comprehensive
plan
and
any
other
city
policies
or
procedures
that
might
affect
the
cost
of
housing
or
that
might
deter
a
developer
from
building
affordable
or
workforce
housing.
There's
not
much
flexibility
in
the
process.
Q
Q
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
roll
through
each
of
the
11
criteria
and
briefly
explain
the
committee's
recommendations
understand
this
is
the
fifth
time
we've
assembled
the
committee
to
review
the
same
criteria.
So
in
many
cases
the
committee's
recommendations
is
to
continue
with
recommendations
made
by
previous
committees.
Q
The
the
committee's
recommendations
are
written
into
the
city's
local
housing
incentive
strategy
report
as
an
update.
So
this
is
why
it's
provided
to
you
in
a
strike
through
an
underlying
form,
so
the
first
area
focus
we
need
to
look
at
the
process
of
approvals
of
development
orders
or
permits
for
affordable
housing
projects
is
expedited
to
a
greater
degree
than
other
projects,
so
this
is
already
in
place.
However,
it's
always
a
very
healthy
discussion
with
the
committee,
the
projects
that
qualify
as
affordable
workforce
housing
they
get
top
priority
in
the
review
process.
Q
The
committee
had
a
healthy
discussion
about
permitting
permitting
turnaround
times
for
single
family
homes,
so
they
recommended
that
we
strive
and
memorialize
that
we
are
striving
to
complete
initial
permit
reviews
for
single-family
homes
within
four
days
and
all
follow-up
reviews
within
three
days.
So
that's
been
written
into
the
report.
Q
The
committee
recommended
one
more
thing
that
I
think
will
help
in
this
area.
Habitat
for
humanity
is
a
very
good
example
of
a
developer
that
will
use
building
designs
multiple
times
at
various
locations.
They
do
some
custom
builds,
but
mostly
their
designs
have
already
been
improved
by
council.
So
the
recommendation
was
to
encourage
these
types
of
developers
to
submit
frequently
used
design
plans
for
pre-screening
by
the
building
official.
So
when
that
happens,
so
when
a
pre-screened
design
comes
in
for
an
actual
permanent
review,
it'll
be
a
much
quicker
review.
Q
So
I
think
that's
a
very
good
suggestion
made
by
the
committee,
so
the
second
area
of
focus,
the
modification
of
impact
fee
requirements,
including
the
reduction
or
waiver
of
fees
and
alternative
methods
of
fee
payment
for
affordable
housing
every
year.
The
committee
urges
us
to
make
progress
in
this
area
and
it's
always
a
very
healthy
discussion.
So
we
do
have
some
progress
to
report.
The
the
parks
and
recreation
department
is
creating
a
new
impact
fee
structure
and
the
staff
seeks
approval
for
that
impact
fee
structure.
Q
I
believe
staff
is
going
to
recommend
waiver
of
that
fee
for
affordable
housing
projects
to
qualify
as
such.
The
planning
and
development
department
is
also
working
on
a
text
amendment
to
the
community
development
code
that
will
provide
for
a
reduction
in
building
permit
fees
for
qualifying
projects.
Q
So
the
next
area
focus
the
allowance
of
flexible
densities
for
affordable
housing.
That's
already
in
place.
We
provide
a
density
bonus
for
qualifying
projects.
The
text
amendment
to
the
community
development
code
that
I
mentioned
earlier
will
include
language
that
will
clarify
that
density
bonus.
I
think
it
needs
a
little
bit
of
clarification.
Q
Next
is
the
reservation
of
infrastructure
capacity
for
low
to
moderate
income
persons.
There
are
no
recommendations
in
this
area.
The
city's
infrastructure
is
not
identified
as
a
barrier
to
affordable
housing.
The
city's
very
built
out
infrastructure
is
largely
in
place,
as
you
know,
the
allowance
of
affordable
accessory
residential
units
in
zone
in
residential
zoning
districts.
So
this
is
always
a
strong
area
of
focus
and
planning.
Staff
is
working
through
our
comp
plan,
it'll
be
something
that
is
an
initiative
of
theirs.
Q
Staff
will
be
supporting
wider
scale,
eligibility
of
lots
for
accessory
dwelling
units
throughout
the
city
some
more
to
come
on
that
next
is
the
reduction
of
parking
and
setback
requirement,
setback
requirements
for
affordable
housing.
This
is
already
provided
for
by
our
code.
Next
would
be
the
modification
of
street
requirements
for
affordable
housing.
Again,
no
recommendation.
Q
We
have
a
very
built
out
street
grid.
It
is
not
a
barrier
to
affordable
housing.
The
establishment
of
a
process
by
which
a
local
government
considers
before
adoption
policies,
procedures,
ordinances,
regulations
or
plan
provisions
that
might
increase
the
cost
of
housing.
Changes
to
city
policy
are
always
vetted
by
the
senior
executive
team.
So
the
economic
development
housing
director-
and
I
always
view
these
things
through
the
lens
of-
are
they
going
to
affect
the
cost
of
housing?
Q
The
preparation
of
a
printed
inventory
of
locally
owned
public
land
suitable
for
affordable
housing?
This
is
already
in
place.
It's
actually
a
statutory
requirement.
Council
approves
a
list
of
city-owned
properties
every
three
years.
The
list
is
due
to
be
updated.
This
spring
I'll.
Come
to
you
this
spring
with
that
list.
When
discussing
this
focus
area
with
the
committee,
I
explained
that
we're
developing
a
lot.
This
disposition
procedure
for
for
lots
suitable
for
single
family
homes,
it'll
be
a
transparent,
competitive
process
for
developers
to
to
acquire
lots
they're
on
this
list
of
city-owned
properties.
Q
So
I
plan
to
present
this
procedure
to
council
early
in
2022
and,
lastly,
the
support
of
development
near
transportation
hubs
and
major
employment,
centers
and
mixed
use
developments.
This
is
already
provided
for
our
buyer
code,
so
a
recommendation
was
not
necessary,
so
that's
the
11
required
criteria.
Q
The
committee
also
has
the
flexibility
to
make
recommendations
outside
of
these
11
areas.
So
there
are
some
additional
things
that
the
committee
recommendations
that
the
committee
has
made
and
the
previous
committees
have
made,
and
the
21
2021
committee
has
supported
so,
for
example,
the
city
should
continue
to
allow
and
encourage
adaptive
reuse
projects
such
as
converting
an
underutilized
non-residential
structure
for
housing.
Q
The
committee
encouraged
us
to
market
our
programs.
We
recently
configured
our
website
for
affordable
housing
and
community
development,
and
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
very
much
improved.
So
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
work
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
around
us
working
to
drive
people
to
that
website,
and
I
think
we
could
do
a
better
job
at
that
working
with
a
public
communications
department.
Q
The
committee
asked
staff
to
re
evaluate
the
feasibility
of
creating
a
strategy
to
help
in
this
area,
so
I
have
some
ideas:
I'll
be
working
with
city
manager,
jennings
on
implementation.
Along
those
lines
we
always
get
great
feedback
from
the
committee
on
program.
Adjustments
we
might
consider
developing
partnerships
with
developers
is
always
a
focus
of
discussion.
Q
Q
At
the
staff
level,
we
did
not
review
any
of
these
recommendation
recommendations,
as
particularly
onerous
as
you
can
see,
many
of
the
criteria
were
required
to
review
is
already
addressed
by
our
code,
so
we
have
some
work
to
do
to
develop.
You
know
and
develop
implementing
some
of
these
other
other
recommendations,
but
I
think
we're
in
a
pretty
good
place
and
next
year,
that
committee
will
again
hold
us
accountable.
So
so,
following
approval
of
this
item
on
thursday,
the
work
of
the
2021
ahack
committee
is
complete
and
the
committee
will
automatically
sunset.
E
Thanks
thanks
chuck
and
thanks
for
all
that
work
on
this
really
important
committee
that
I
enjoy
being
on.
I
had
a
question
about
the
under
evaluation
of
existing
strategy,
and
so
clearly,
adus
are
not
the
same
as
tiny
homes.
They're
not
classified
the
same
way.
E
E
Because
and
that's
what
I
wanted
to
be
clear
on,
because
it
says
the
city
allows
for
the
provision
of
adus
in
non-residential
zoning
districts,
including,
and
then
they
go,
and
industrial
research
and
technology
districts,
as
described
in
the
community
development
code.
But
we
don't
have
any
that.
I
mean
I
mean
I'm
not
aware
of
any,
that
we.
Q
E
Q
We
do
we
do
allow
residential
development
in
non-residential
areas
through
comp
and
phil
and
otherwise.
So
it
is,
I
think,
that's
why
it's
written
that
way
and
that
language
actually
from
the
state.
Okay,.
E
Okay,
but
it
would
be
good
if,
if
we
knew,
if
we
do
have
any
and
where
they
are,
and
then
at
the
top
of
a
page
we
have,
there
has
been
little
momentum
to
allow
adus
and
residential
zoning
districts
in
part
due
to
citizen
concerns
about
neighborhood
compatibility,
and
I
would
one
of
my
comments
is:
is
this
anecdotal
or
documented
do
we
have
you
know
how
do
we
know
that
people
don't.
Q
Really,
I
believe-
and
I
don't
know
if
anyone
from
planning
and
development
is
here
this
evening,
but
I
think
the
last
time
we
went
through
this
and
had
this
discussion,
there
was
community
feedback.
It
is
not
a
simple
thing
to
implement.
There
are
a
lot
of
considerations
with
on-street
parking.
You
require
additional
parking.
Q
There
are
a
lot
of
things
that
that
people,
you
know
get
concerned
about
when
we
start
talking
about
edu's.
So
it's
not
it's
not
going
to
be
an
easy
discussion.
I
don't
think.
E
No,
I
don't
I
I
agree,
but
I
just
didn't
know
if
it
was.
You
know
some
anecdotal
or
documented
if
we
had
significant
feedback
about
it
and
then
the
language
that
says
as
part
of
its
annual
reporting,
the
economic
development
housing
department
should
continue
to
review
all
regulations
and
ordinances
that
may
affect
the
cost
of
housing.
And
is
it
our
agreement
with
our
eye
that
we
want
to
be
super
competitive
with
surrounding
municipalities,
to
be
seen
as
really
welcoming
serious
innovative
leaders
and
attracting
affordable
housing
developers.
Q
E
There's
some
language
that
future
updates
to
the
inventory
list
may
include
lots,
not
zoned
residential
that
may
be
appropriate
for
affordable
housing.
We
had
that
conversation
about
a
list
of
vacant,
underdeveloped
or
underutilized
areas
I
mean
not
like
vacant
vacant,
but
it
will
include
lots
and
zoned
residential
right.
Are
we
going
to
start
to
list
those
out
for
potential
developers.
Q
If
they're
appropriate
for
for
residential
development,
absolutely
they
will
be
located,
we
do
have
northgard.
Nav
is
a
perfect
perfect
example:
it's
a
lot
of
its
own
commercial,
but
it's
a
residential
community.
We've
built
residential
homes
in
there
and
if
we
have,
we
actually
had
a
property
on
our
list
on
that
property
in
that
in
that
neighborhood,
okay,.
E
E
And
then
I
guess
the
we
do
have
a
list
of
properties,
then
what
do
we
do
with
it?
Whom
do
we
share
it
with,
and
this
is
where
you
talked
about
partnering
with
our
communications
department
to
more
heavily
promote
all
that
stuff?
That's
out
there.
Q
Yeah,
it's
required
to
be
on
our
on
our
website.
We
do
maintain
it
on
our
website.
It's
been
updated
in
the
last
couple
months
and
we
certainly
direct
people
to
when
there's
when
people
are
looking
for
properties.
Let
people
know
it's
there.
E
What
about
reaching
out
to
you
know,
I
know:
we've
got
the
local
nonprofit
like
going
home
coalition
and
others
to
see
if
they'd
like
to
rehab
some
of
these
homes
that
are
potentials
for
foreclosure
or
even
you
know,
thinking
outside
the
box,
reaching
out
to
different
churches
or
or
non-profits
to
see,
if
they'd
like
to
take
that
home
and
rehab
it
and
turn
it
over
to
a
you,
know,
sell
it
or
whatever
to
a
lower
income.
Family
yeah.
Q
Yeah,
there's
something
we
really
haven't
explored
deeply.
That,
I
think,
is
a
really
good
idea
is
to
is
to
look
to
our
faith-based
communities,
because
a
lot
of
them
want
to
assist.
We
we've
actually
had
us
had
some
of
our
folks
in
our
rehab
program
benefit
from
faith-based
communities
in
conjunction
with
our
investment.
So
we
have
some
experience
here,
but
I
think
I
think
it's
a
really
good
point
that
we
could
explore
that
more
deeply.
E
You
know
sell
at
a
reasonable
rate,
but
anyway,
I
think
I
think,
there's
potential
there
for
some
some
innovation
and
then
one.
I
guess
one
last
question.
We
have
a
note
here-
and
I
I
think
you've
answered
this
from
me
before,
but
I
forgot
of
note
under
florida
house,
bill
1339
june
of
2020
local
governments
may
now
approve
affordable
housing
development
by
wright
on
any
parcel
zone
for
residential
industrial
or
commercial
use
right.
So
that
means
those
adus
or
tiny
homes
could
go
multiple
places.
Q
Well,
yeah,
I
mean
I
think
that
generally
speaks
to
development.
What
what
florida
housing
wants
is
to
increase
the
availability
of
land
for
housing.
We
do
allow
in
our
code,
develop
residential
development
in
areas
not
zone
residential.
So
that's
where
that's
already
in
place.
I
mean
it's
a
bit
more
of
an
arduous
process
for
the
developer,
but
that
that
is
in
place
and
it's
been
in
place
for
a
while.
Q
H
I
just
want
to
thank
you
and
and
the
staff
for
for
working
on
the
adu
situation.
That's
something
that
I've
been
passionate
about.
I
lived
in
an
adu
in
l.a
in
the
los
feliz
hills,
with
a
great
view
of
the
griffith
observatory
in
the
hollywood
sign.
H
So
an
adu
doesn't
need
to
be
something
that
ugly
or
or
trash
a
neighborhood.
The
one
complaint
that
I've
seen
since
we
were
elected
was
one
letter
from
a
woman
who
was
concerned
about
parking
issues
and
I
think
that's
valid.
So
I'm
sure
the
staff
is
taking
that
into
account
to
make
sure
that
you
know
whatever
gets
approved
there.
There
would
need
to
be
ample
space
for
parking
there,
and
I've
talked
to
mr
jennings
and
shared
some
videos
of
a
very
successful
program
in
detroit.
H
I
I'd
like
to
see
us
working
toward
helping
more
people
get
into
an
affordable
home
and
and
turning
this
into
something
that
can
continue
to
generate
some
income
to
create
more
of
these.
These
type
of
communities-
and
I
think,
that's
interesting.
Thank
you.
Goodbye
smart.
C
Number
one
is
this
report:
does
it
have
to
be
presented
at
the
meeting
thursday
night,
or
can
it
go
on
consent,
public
hearing
and
I'm
going
to
kind
of
present
the
opposite
side?
This
is
affordable.
Housing
and
tiny
homes
is
very
much
a
nimby
issue
because,
for
example
I'll
you
know
I'll
put
this
out
there
if
we
wanted
to
rezone
or
change
and
take
the
little
pocket
park
over
on
cm
key
and
put
tiny
homes
on
it.
C
I
think
you'd
have
some
uproar
from
the
residents
of
saint
key,
at
least
to
see
the
residents
on
z,
key
that
I
know
so.
It's
yeah
and
and
again
you
know
the
tiny
homes
we
are
a
in
a
much
more
high-rise
urban
area.
That's
true!
We
transportation-wise.
We
don't
have
a
good
public
transportation
system
because
of
our
geographic
configuration
and
with
big
body
of
water
between
us
and
tampa
and
whatnot.
C
And
when
you
have
you
know,
almost
everybody
has
their
own
personal
vehicle
in
this
in
our
area,
which
means
you
have
a
tiny
home,
but
you
still
got
to
park
two
cars.
You
know
for
that
tiny
home
that
takes
extra
space
and
it
it
makes
the
configuration
and
the
development
of
this
a
little
bit
more
difficult,
not
something
we
can't
work
on.
But
logistically
there
are,
as
the
mayor
put
it
unintended
consequences
as
you
move
these
things
forward,
and
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
those
are
thoroughly
vetted
before
you
pull
the
trigger
on
it.
C
B
Well,
I
live
in
a
neighborhood
that
has
garage
apartments
almost
throughout
the
entire
neighborhood,
and
I
will
tell
you
our
neighbor
at
one
time
not
our
current
did
rent
illegally
the
garage
apartment.
It
was
a
nightmare.
B
I
mean
the
parking
really
was
a
problem
and
we
had
people
running
through
our
backyard
every
day
to
a
parking
lot
that
was
close
by
until
we
ultimately
had
to
put
up
a
fence.
For
that
very
reason,
I'm
not.
B
At
the
same
time,
I
think
we've
got
a
problem
in
our
code
that
we
don't
allow
accessory
structures.
You
know
for
in-law
accommodations
because
as
people
age
and
you
want
to
have
family
members
on
your
property,
you
know
that's
something
we're
really
not
very
accommodative
of.
I
think
it's
something
that
needs
to
be
looked
at,
but
I
think
we
need
to
do
it
in
a
thoughtful
way.
Q
Q
So
the
cape
is
a
report
of
our
activity
with
the
use
of
federal
funds,
which
are
community
development,
block,
grant
program,
funds
and
home
investment
partnership
program
funds.
The
narrative
of
the
report
of
the
narrative
sections
of
the
report.
We
discuss
our
use
of
state
and
local
funds
as
well.
It
helps
to
give
a
more
accurate
picture
of
the
body
of
work
that
we
do
in
the
housing
division.
Q
It
was
a
challenging
year
for
the
first
three
months
of
the
fiscal
year.
As
you
know,
we
worked
exclusively
all
hands
on
deck
with
our
rent
mortgage
utility
emergency
assistance
program,
so
it
cut
out
a
good
portion
of
the
year
for
the
remainder
of
the
year.
Our
work
was
affected
by
a
very
difficult
construction
industry
climate.
As
a
result,
any
construction
related
activities
such
as
new
construction
or
rehab,
were
heavily
affected.
Q
So
this
slide
shows
you
the
money
we
spent
on
the
federal
side,
our
federal
expenditures,
totaled
about
2.1
million
dollars.
Our
spending
on
the
on
the
federal
side,
particularly
with
the
home
program,
was,
was
down.
Our
public
service
service
programs
seem
to
carry
on
and
spend
the
funds
down.
As
usual,
but
as
I
said
earlier,
we
struggled
to
plea
complete
construction
contracts
and
projects
in
the
current
year.
Q
So
this
slide
shows
the
money
spent
on
the
state
and
local
side.
We
we
spent
about
457
thousand
dollars
in
state
housing
initiative,
partnership
program
funds.
This
was
mostly
program
income.
If
you
remember,
governor
desantis
veto
vetoed
the
statewide
ship
allocation
earlier
at
the
beginning
of
that
fiscal,
we
still
have
a
small
balance
of
commun
of
pinellas
county
housing,
trust
fund
money.
That
comes
in
very
handy
for
us
and,
as
you
know,
we
contribute
annually
to
six
homeless
service
providers
with
a
total
amount
of
about
of
250
thousand
dollars.
Q
Q
The
lion's
share
of
the
people
we
assist
is
always
through
our
public
service
partners.
Q
So
this
is,
these
are
the
folks
we
assisted
using
state
and
local
funds.
We
funded
the
rehabilitation
of
nine
units.
In
june,
we
increased
the
down
payment
assistance
subsidy,
because
the
market
was
really
limiting
any
chance
of
our
success
in
that
program.
This
seemed
to
help,
because
in
the
last
quarter
we
processed
three
down
payment
assistance
loans.
Q
Q
So
these
are
our
partners,
I
think,
be
very
familiar
with
many
on
this
screen.
Hope
villages
of
america
formerly
rcs,
has
does
a
number
of
things
in
our
in
our
city,
domestic
violence.
They
have
a
a
food
pantry.
They
have
a
a
family
shelter.
They
also
do
some
some
affordable
housing
directions
for
living
does
a
lot
of
case
management
for
us
and
street
outreach.
Westcare
certainly
helps
a
lot
of
folks
with
substance
abuse
issues,
kimberly
home,
helps,
expecting
pregnant
women
and
also
young
mothers
gulf
coast
community
gulf
coast.
Q
Legal
services
were
very
valuable.
This
year
they
helped
people
with
legal
issues
surrounding
housing.
During
the
pandemic,
when
people
were
facing
evictions
that
was
a
very
critical
resource.
Maddie
williams,
neighborhood
family
centers.
They
administer
programs
to
help
families
with
school
readiness
and
financial
stability,
hep
homeless,
empowerment
program,
they're,
a
staple
in
our
community
with
providing
homeless
services
and
shelter.
Q
Community
kitchen
and
resource
center,
they've
they've,
been
in
our
escape
in
our
downtown
gateway
for
a
number
of
years,
with,
with
feeding
helping
families
struggling
perc
helps
folks
that
provide
they
provide
education
for
ex-offenders
trying
to
reduce
recidivism
fresh
start
ministries
is
also
in
that
category
pinellas
opportunity
council's
shore
services
program.
They
help
elderly
folks
that
are
no
longer
able
to
care
for
their
home
and
miracles,
outreach
they
help
folks,
they
help
children
that
have
been
displaced
from
their
homes.
Q
Q
And
the
microwave,
the
micro
enterprise
partners
I
mentioned
earlier
our
tampa
bay
black
business
investment
corporation.
They
have
a
heavy
presence
in
the
north
greenwood
area.
I
think
you
all
are
familiar
with
the
catch
program
that
they
educate
entrepreneurs
and
new
business
owners.
The
hispanic
business
initiative
fund
of
florida
also
known
as
prosperity
prospero.
Q
They
primarily
assist
hispanic
business
owners
in
our
escape
in
our
downtown
gateway
area.
We
completed
a
completed
a
facility
rehab
project
in
a
program
here
with
the
arc
of
tampa
bay.
They
are
an
organization
that
assists
people
with
intellectual
and
developed
development,
developmental
challenges,
we're
working
on
a
facility
rehab
with
the
salvation
army
as
well.
That
project
has
carried
over
to
the
current
fiscal
year
and
we
also
work
on.
We
also
worked
on
public
facility
projects
with
directions
for
living,
hope,
villages
of
america
and
hep.
Q
So
these
are
the
partners
we
work
with
on
our
housing
projects.
We
completed
actually
two
homes
with
habitat
for
humanity,
a
home
with
clearwater
neighborhood
housing
services
and
another
with
emerge
community
development
corporation.
We
helped
community
services
foundation,
rehabilitated
duplex
on
tangerine
street
in
north
greenwood,
a
great
looking
project.
Q
Q
Our
investment,
that's
on
missouri,
have
1200
missouri
ave.
Our
investment
is
a
very
small
portion
of
a
much
larger
rehab
project
of
240
units.
It's
an
11
million
dollar
project
to
rehab
the
interior
and
exterior
of
all
the
units,
which
is
an
extremely
difficult
project
to
do.
The
project
has
had
some
challenges,
but
thankfully
they
are
nearing
completion.
Q
This
home
was
built
by
habitat
for
humanity
at
691,
blanchard
littlejohn
trail.
These
folks
might
have
some
some
neighbors
soon,
because
we
anticipate
additional
homes
to
be
built
on
the
block
adjacent
to
this
house.
This
is
directly
across
the
pinellas
trail
from
the
12
unit
project
we
completed
a
couple
years
ago
with
habitat.
Q
In
some
projects
that
are
carrying
over
and
ongoing
in
the
current
fiscal
we
we're
working
on.
I
think
four
units
new
fitness,
new
single
family
homes,
our
homeowner
homeowner
rehabilitation
program.
We
currently
have
three
projects
in
the
bid
phase.
We
really
had
to
set
back
that
program
because
the
covet
restarted
it.
I
think
we
made
some
improvements
to
it
and
on
the
rental
side,
we
you
all
know
about
the
blue
sky
project
in
downtown
the
171
unit
mixed
income
project
on
south
washington.
Q
I
think
we're
we're
finding
a
way
to
move
forward
on
that.
As
ms
thompson
told
you
earlier
in
her
cra
meeting,
she'll
come
to
you
with
an
update
shortly
and
then
came
to
you
last
week
with
the
rehab
at
palmetto
park,
apartments
very
critical
apartment,
complex
in
the
north
greenwood
neighborhood
that
hopefully
hasn't
closed
yet,
but
it's
hopefully
moving
forward.
I
mentioned
lexington
club
at
renaissance
square
and
we're
also
renovating
a
a
duplex
in
the
downtown
gateway
where
kimberly
home
on
the
kimberley
homes
campus
and
for
covid
related
activities.
Q
You're
all
well
aware
of
the
rent
assistance
program
that
we
managed
at
the
beginning
of
the
fiscal.
We
processed
about
100
850
000
in
assistance
helped
about
250
people,
and
our
public
service
program
is
also
an
area
where
helping
folks
with
covert
directions
for
living.
They
helped
a
lot
of
the
folks
in
prospect,
towers
and
you're.
Q
All
we're
well
aware
of
that
issue,
people
being
displaced
with
a
new
investor
coming
in
and
raising
rents,
so
we
we
have
a
contract
with
them
to
help
avoid
homelessness
and
get
those
people
rehoused
in
gulf
coast
legal
service.
I
mentioned
earlier
a
very
important
part
of
covid
response
for
some
of
our
folks
facing
legal
issues,
so
the
caper
is
available
for
for
viewing
on
our
website
the
community
development,
affordable
housing
web
page
you
can
get
to
it
directly
by
going
to
myclearwater.com
housing.
Q
E
Of
all
those
partners,
the
social
service
providers
and
people
we
partner
organizations
we
partner
with
do
do
most
of
them-
need
more
funding.
Q
E
But
as
we
look
towards
next
year-
and
I
advocate
again,
I
think
it's
important
to
know
you
know
I'm
a
pretty
competitive
person
and
so
I'd
like
you
know,
I
I
think
we
need
to
be
aware
of
what
are
the
surrounding
municipalities
contributing?
What
are
they
doing?
Are
we
doing
our
part?
Are
we
seen
as
leaders
are
we
doing
our
fair
share
and
and
in
helping
you
know,
I
know
we
are
with
all
the
other
funds.
I'm
talking
more
about
our
allocations
from
general
fund
which
isn't
up
to
you.
E
I
mean
it's
up
to
you,
what
you
want
to
do
with
it,
but
but
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
going
forward.
I
think
I'm
not
going
to
stop
asking
for.
Q
With
our
public
service
program,
we're
limited
to
spending
15
of
our
allocation
on
public
services
with
cdbg
this
year
we
had
an
infusion
of
program
income
because
we
converted
another
funding
source
to
cdbg.
So
it
allowed
us
to
step
up
a
lot.
You
know,
probably
by
about
30
40
percent,
so
we're
able
to
fund
these
public
service
programs
at
a
higher
level
in
the
current
year,
which
which
everybody
was
very
excited
about
to
help.
J
Board
a
contract
for
the
other
post-employment
benefits
actuarial
services
for
the
five-year
period,
ending
december
31st,
2026
to
gabriel
roeder
smith
and
company
for
a
not
to
exceed
total
of
seventy
two
thousand
seven
hundred
and
thirty
dollars
and
authorize
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
the
same.
Thank
you.
M
Mr
jennings,
good
morning,
mayor
and
council
members
jay
ravens
finance
director,
we
are
requesting
approval
of
a
five-year
agreement
for
other
post-employment
benefits
or
opeb
actuarial
services
with
gabriel
rudder
smith
and
company,
for
a
not
to
exceed
total
of
seventy
two
thousand
seven
hundred
and
thirty
dollars.
The
city
is
required
to
have
a
full
actuarial
valuation,
at
least
biannually,
to
determine
the
city's
opeb
liability,
a
reduced
scope,
roll
forward
valuation
is
allowed
every
other
year
if
there
has
been
no
significant
changes
in
opeb
benefits,
assumptions
or
experience.
M
M
J
Prove
a
three-year
renewal
to
the
current
corvette
healthcare
corporations,
agreement
for
the
review
of
workers,
compensation,
medical
bills
and
pharmacy
benefit
management
services
in
the
not
to
exceed
amount
of
200
000
for
the
term
january
1
2022
through
december
31st,
2024
2024
pursuant
to
clearwater
code
of
ordinances,
section
2.563
workers
compensation
authorized
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
the
same.
Mr
oscar.
R
Thank
you,
mr
jennings.
Good
morning,
rick
osorio
risk
manager
risk
management
currently
has
an
agreement
with
corvell
which
ends
december
31st.
2021
crevel
provides
a
city
with
medical
network
solutions
which
include
bill
review
and
pharmacy
benefits
for
workers
compensation
claims
previously.
R
Council
approved
the
current
pricing
agreement
with
corvell,
which
was
an
amendment
to
the
original
amendment
or
agreement,
and
for
this
renewal
corvail
has
proposed
a
three-year
amendment
to
the
original
agreement,
which
will
increase
the
following:
will
review
service
free
fee
from
seven
dollars
and
32
cents
to
7.54
cents
field
telephonic
case
management
and
nurse
file
reviews
will
increase
from
eighty
five
dollars
to
ninety
six
dollars
per
hour.
R
Bill
reduction
will
remain
at
twenty
eight
percent
of
savings,
with
the
minimum
transaction
fee
being
six
dollars
and
three
cents,
and
the
check
writing
fee
will
go
from
four
dollars
to
four
dollars
and
twelve
cents.
Our
pharmacy
benefit
savings
will
change
from
seven
to
eight
percent
on
brand
drugs,
12
to
25,
on
generic
12
for
brand
mail
order
and
35
for
generic
mail
order.
R
E
R
It
all
depends
on
what
kind
of
year
we're
having,
for
example,
we
paid
out
770
000
in
medical
bills
or
in
work
comp
claims
for
this
last
fiscal
year
that
just
ended
previously,
we
paid
1.4
million
claims,
can
range
for
workers
come
from
anywhere
from
48
to
78,
but
it
all
depends
on
severity
of
each.
Some
of
them
are
only
medical,
only
claims
where
it's
a
one
and
done
to
day
care
urgent
care.
Others
are
more
complicated
where
you
know
the
defense
counsel
has
to
be
involved,
and
so
they
can
get
pretty
expensive.
E
E
R
Basically,
the
corvell
has
their
own
kind
of
ppo
network
and
relationship
with
medical
providers.
So
typically
they
work
with
them
to
reduce
the
charges
that
they
have,
and
then
these
charges
that
they're
they're
they're
processing
are
then
adjudicated
against
the
florida
state
fee
schedule,
because
workers
comp
is
a
statutory
coverage
or
benefit.
R
R
C
I
no
this
is
I
mean
if
you
can
give
me
accurate
numbers
on
what
will
fall
under
the
next
three
years
of
this
contract.
You
and
I
need
to
talk
about
lottery,
because
you
know
that
every
year
is
different,
so
basically
we're
working
off
of
past
history
and
yeah
and
everything
else
to
develop
this.
But
this
is
a
not
to
exceed
number
anything
if
we
get
an
anomaly
and
it's
it's
higher
than
that,
you've
got
to
come
back
for
more
for
more
money,
anyways
correct!
Yes,.
R
B
J
Thank
you
approve
a
locally
funded
agreement
between
the
state
of
florida
department
of
transportation
in
the
city
of
clearwater
to
fund
250
thousand
dollars
of
design
fees
for
the
state
road,
60
pedestrian
overpass
from
the
courtney
campbell
trail
to
the
bayshore
trail
and
authorize
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
the
same.
Mr
hallios.
S
Thank
you,
mr
james
jim
hallios,
director
of
parks
and
recreation
good
morning,
mayor
council.
The
item
before
you
is
for
a
funding
agreement
between
the
state
of
florida,
department
of
transportation
and
the
city
of
clearwater
to
fund
250
000
of
design
fees
back
in
2016.
The
council
at
that
time
approved
supporting
the
sun
trail.
S
Funding
of
the
courtney
causeway
campbell,
trail
and
part
of
that
agreement
is
the
manager
at
the
time,
was
given
authority
to
do
the
necessary
right-of-way
transfers
and
also
we
desire
to
be
part
of
the
design
and
funding
of
the
project.
So
right
now,
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
we've
committed
to
a
million
dollars,
but
250
000
of
that
million
will
be,
will
go
to
design
with
the
remaining
750
000
to
be
sent
at
a
later
date
for
a
construction
and
the
anticipated
design
of
the
project.
S
F
You
know
I've
been
following
this
through
four
pinellas
on
the
tip,
and
I
was
when
I
was
looking
at
the
conceptual
drawing
which
I
have
with
me.
I
was
kind
of
surprised
that
it
was
as
big
as
it
is
because
I
always
thought
that
from
maybe
looking
at
former
designs
that
it
was
just
basically
an
overpass
get
over
60
and
I
didn't
realize
that
it
went
so
far
to
the
south,
to
the
west
and
to
the
east
as
a
ramp.
So
anyway,
just
just
a.
F
I
guess
this
is
the
design
that
d.o.t
came
up
with.
Yes,.
S
We've
actually
rece,
we've
went
back
and
forth
with
some
input,
a
number
of
times
kind
of
one
of
the
and
that
iteration
that
you
see
with
the
columns
on
there
yeah.
That
was
pro
request.
The
initial
designs
had
a
lot
of
almost
a
cement
wall
with
few
columns
in
the
middle,
where
you
know
we
came
back
and
we're
like
listen.
You
know.
S
If
we're
going
to
need
this
such
an
extensive
ramp
up
on
both
sides,
then
we
need
to
at
least
need
to
provide
some
side
alternatives
going
through,
so
that
was
kind
of
the
happy
medium
that
we
were
able
to
meet
in
the
middle.
To
you
know,
minimize
those
site
impacts
again.
It
still
is
large,
but
that
has
to
do
with
the
amount
of
clearance
needed
to
get
up
there
right.
S
C
B
Okay-
or
you
put
in
a
light
that
make
people
cross
it,
but
god
forbid
common
sense
breakout.
Are
we
helping
with
the
harn
boulevard
us-19
crossing.
B
T
Tara
kivat
engineering.
We
are
not
contributing
funds
that
I'm
aware
of.
We
are
working
with
them
on
putting
up
one
of
the
signs,
because
it's
kind
of
like
the
southern
entrance
into
city
of
clearwater.
T
That's,
of
course,
what
we're
paying
for.
So
we
I've
seen
the
draft
agreement.
We
will
be
maintaining
the
harm
pedestrian
overpass,
but
we
are
not
funding
it.
B
S
Basically,
for
the
aesthetic
piece
we
wanted
to
say
since
it
was
into
the
entryway
into
the
city
of
how
the
the
overpass
would
look
and
not
just
in
speaking
to
the
columns
but
there'll
be
bump
outs
for
observation
decks.
So
we
wanted
to
say
in
what
was
going
to
be
put
in
the
entryway
to
clearwater
versus
getting
just
basically
a
concrete
structure
dropped
in
there.
That
did
not
have
any
aesthetic
relevance
to
it
as
far
as
sight
lines
and
how
things
would
look.
B
I
don't
know
why
they're
not
you
know
pedestrians
aren't
crossing
at
patel
boulevard.
B
I
don't
wanna
put
this:
I'm
not
gonna
vote
for
this,
so
I'm
not
playing
it
on
consent.
Councilmember
pacman.
E
S
The
we
haven't
we've
gone
through
design,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
initial
conceptual
costs
of
the
project
two
years
ago
was
seven
million
dollars
so
for
the
total
cost.
So,
with
the
way
things
have
went
up,
I
shudder
to
think
what
it
would
cost
now,
but
we
are
locked
in
at
the
million
dollar
contribution,
regardless
of
what
the
the
total
project
cost
is
for
them,
and.
B
Okay,
we'll
talk
about
that
further
on
thursday,
5.2
approve
a
template.
J
For
facility
use
agreement
between
the
city
of
clearwater
and
the
clearwater
horseshoe
club,
clearwater
lawn
bowls
club
and
the
clearwater
shuffleboard
club
for
the
use
and
supervision
of
certain
city-owned
buildings
and
facilities
from
january
1st
2022
through
december
31st
2022
with
a
one
year
renewal
option
and
authorized
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
the
same.
Mr.
U
Rockwood
morning,
mayor
city,
council,
city
managers,
mike
lockwood
assistant
director
for
parks,
recreation
in
front
of
this
morning,
is
a
facility
use
template
agreement
which
staff
will
use
to
manage
the
horseshoe,
longbows
and
shuffleboard
clubs,
I'm
sure
facilities.
These
organizations
provide
day-to-day
support
to
city
facilities
and
provide
a
unique
opportunity
to
residents
and
visitors
throughout
the
year.
With
that,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
E
Can
we
see
the
annual
reports
mentioned
in
the
legislative
text,
so
lawn
bowling,
shuffleboard
and
horseshoe
are
supposed
to
provide
annual
reports?
Okay
and
then
can
we
also
know
the
estimated
value
of
the
landscaping,
maintenance
and
capital
improvements
to
the
properties.
So
how
much
are
we
contributing
as
well
I'm
just
thinking
about
if
we
have
in
green
print,
we
want
to
increase
community
gardens
in
our
in
our
community.
E
How
much
might
we
be
contributing
to
something
like
that
in
relationship
to
these
kinds
of
community
engagement
activities?
That's
all
thanks.
J
Authorized
guarantee
guaranteed
maximum
price
proposals
to
keystone
excavators,
inc
of
ultima
florida
in
the
amount
of
2
million,
151,
361
and
10
cents
and
service
builders
of
bristol
florida
and
the
amount
of
431
nine
hundred
and
ninety
one
dollars,
each
of
which
includes
a
ten
percent
contingency
for
renovations.
Improvements
of
del
oro
park
and
neutral
had
a
new
new
trailhead
located
at
401
north
mcmullen
booth
road.
Pursuant
to
the
request
for
qualifications,
40-20
construction
manager
at
risk
services,
continuing
contracts,
capital
improvement
projects,
transfers
of
786
000
from
en
st
18005.
J
Coastal
basin
400
000
from
the
c2209
neighborhood
parks
and
one
million
fifty
thousand
dollars
from
nine
three;
two:
seven:
two:
bicycle
trails:
bridges
to
projects;
nine;
to
project
nine;
three:
six
667
del
oro
park
renovations
and
authorize
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
the
same.
S
Good
morning,
mayor
council,
jim
hallios,
again,
director
parks
recreation.
This
item
that
we
have
before
you
is
for
the
renovation
and
construction
of
a
new
trailhead
at
del
oro
park,
with
a
total
project
cost
of
roughly
2.6
million
dollars.
786
000
of
that
2.6
is
funded
out
of
water
funds,
with
the
remaining
funds
being
utilized
through
our
neighborhood
park,
cip
and
our
bicycle
trails
and
bridges
project.
S
We,
if
council
will
remember,
we
acquired
two
parcels
of
property
just
to
the
north
of
delaware
park,
where
there
is
a
wastewater
treatment,
plant
or
a
water.
S
I
believe
it's
a
county
and
so
we're
going
to
construct
a
parking
lot
there
as
a
that
will
be
a
trailhead
with
a
bathroom
and
then
storm
water
is
going
to
need
to
come
in
and
do
some
work
to
mitigate
some
areas
of
flooding
that
was
affecting
the
homes
to
the
south
portion
of
that
park
and
per
that
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
the
tennis
courts
and
the
basketball
court
a
little
further
north
and
then
we're
going
to
reuse
the
existing
infrastructure,
which
are
the
light
poles
that
are
exist
in
that
park.
S
E
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
J
V
Chief
dance
lawyer
at
the
police
department
good
morning,
council,
you
had
pretty
well
aware
of
the
history
of
our
implementation
of
a
body-worn
camera
program.
In
2020
we
purchased
200
cameras.
Those
cameras
were
used
to
outfit
our
sergeants
and
our
officers
that
work
in
uniform
assignments.
V
We
are
seeking
now
to
expand
the
program
to
cover
all
sworn
personnel
with
an
additional
45
cameras.
This
will
include
detectives.
It's
been
our
experiences.
We've
implemented
this
program,
that
is
detectives,
works,
work
in
extra
details
and
they
actually
do
uniform
assignments
from
time
to
time
that
we're
not
capturing
that
footage,
and
it
is
a
difficult
thing
to
explain
from
a
perspective
of
transparency,
so
we're
seeking
to
expand
the
program
to
include
these
45
cameras
and
all
the
ancillary
equipment
and
software
licenses
that
come
with
it.
V
The
program
for
to
implement
this
we'll
smooth
it
in
so
that
it
marries
up
with
our
previous
agreement.
So
it's
a
44
month
agreement
of
93
768.75
per
year
for
the
next
five
years,
pay
for
a
portion
of
this.
The
forty
thousand
four
hundred
fifty
five
dollars
out
of
our
federal
forfeiture
spending
and
fifty
three
thousand
three
hundred
fourteen
dollars
out
of
a
special
program
we
have
for
technology
for
the
first
year
and
then
roll
it
into
our
operating
budget.
If
you
so
approve
it,
you
won't
have
to
answer
any
questions.
E
V
Yeah,
we
wouldn't
discuss
our
techniques
about
how
we
do
our
undercover
operations,
but,
okay,
we
take
care
of
stuff
like
that
in
many
ways.
E
V
So
a
dui
room
is
a
long
hallway
with
a
big
line
drawn
in
the
middle
of
the
floor,
and
you
do
nine
steps
and
turn
around
and
come
back
and
all
the
other
stuff.
So
it's
it's
actually
in
generally
in
your
booking
areas.
So
we
have
one
in
our
booking
cell
area
near
the
top
visor
instrument
that
you
blow
into
the
interview
rooms
are
upstairs
in
the
criminal
investigations:
division
they're.
You
know
sterile
10
by
10
rooms,
with
the
desk
and
two
chairs
and
pretty
basic.
V
J
Yeah
7.1
award
of
construction
contracted
tlc
diversified
at
palmetto
florida
for
the
2021
annual
water,
reclaimed,
water
repair
and
and
improvements
in
the
amount
of
six
million
dollars
for
an
initial
one-year
term,
with
an
option
for
three
one-year
renewals
of
the
unit
price
based
for
a
total
contract
value
of
24,
000
or
24
million,
and
authorized
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
the
same.
Mr
brennan.
K
Good
morning
my
name
is
jeremy
brown
engineering
manager.
The
purpose
of
this
contract
is
to
provide
supplemental
construction
services
to
the
public
utilities
department.
There
are
two
main
components:
the
first
is
to
provide
emergency
and
non-emergency
repairs
and
maintenance
to
the
existing
city,
water
and
reclaimed
water
distribution
systems.
The
second
is
to
assist
with
critical
main
replacements
that
have
been
identified
in
our
water
master
plan
and
the
future
reclaimed
water
master
plan
that
I'm
happy
to
respond
to
any
questions.
C
K
K
The
six
million
can
be
for
either
or
repairs
or,
for
you
know,
for
instance,
the
county
may
want
to
install
a
stormwater
system,
there's
a
small
little
main
that
needs
to
get
moved,
we'll
be
able
to
use
this
contract
if
public
utilities
is
not
available.
K
J
W
Morning,
council,
tom
honey
engineering
department:
this
is
the
condition
of
the
vacated
state
street
that
abuts
the
state
street
park.
The
item
will
provide
for
existing
utilities
and
easement
for
the
existing
existing
utilities
that
are
within
that
right
away.
They'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
W
Each
utility
is
requiring
their
own,
their
own
easement
for
their
personal
utility.
So
this
is
the
same
item
I'll,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
J
Approve
a
renewal
of
license
and
maintenance
services,
agreement
with
environmental
systems,
research
institute
or
esri
of
redwood,
california
for
mapping
and
land
management,
software
licensing
and
maintenance,
and
the
amount
not
to
exceed
285
000,
which
includes
a
contingency
pursuant
to
clearwater
code
single
source
and
authorize
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
the
same.
Mr.
X
Mayor
mayor
council,
members,
dan
mayer,
I.t,
director
esri,
is
our
land
management.
This
provides
all
the
base,
mapping
for
our
engineering
and
utilities,
group,
police,
cad
services
and
any
spatial
analysis
we
want
to
do
so.
This
is
our
standard
in
this
area
and
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
J
Proven
agreement
with
invoice
cloud
inc,
braintree
mass
to
provide
an
electronic
bill,
presentment
and
payment
services
for
the
city
of
clearwater
utility
customer
service
department
from
january
1st,
2022
through
december
31st
2024,
in
accordance
with
the
clearwater
code
of
ordinances,
single
source
and
authorize
the
appropriate
officials
to
execute
the
same.
I
think
msema
is
joining
mr
mayor.
X
X
We
did
the
rfp
a
few
years
ago.
Since
then,
invoice
cloud
has
established
a
formal
development
partnership
with
kayenta,
who
is
our
utility
billing
system.
We
felt
comfortable
recommending
them
as
a
sole
source
because
of
the
integration
benefits,
so
the
new
system
will
have
some
increased
integration
which
will
provide
real-time,
balanced
reporting
for
customers.
So
as
soon
as
you
pay
within
minutes,
your
balance
is
updated.
X
We
have
enhanced
communication
and
mobile
texting
for
customers,
so
it's
more
convenient
for
them.
It's
a
much
more
developed
program
than
what
coover
had
and
overall
just
the
response
in
terms
of
customer
satisfaction.
Now
on
the
downside,
it
will
cost
us
a
little
bit
more
in
terms
of
convenience
fee.
We
do
only
charge
customers
who
use
this
service,
so
customers
who
play
by
lock,
box
or
walk
up
or
other
services
do
not
contribute
to
the
payment
of
this
convenience
factor
and
that's
ultimately,
what
it
is.
X
F
Yeah
is
that
okay,
so
somebody
wants
to
pay
their
water
bill
online.
Using
a
credit
card
correct.
You
got
the
k,
you
got
the
295
fee
on
it.
Correct
can
do
they
have
the
option
of
just
doing
a
bank,
they
do.
X
X
F
X
B
X
Yeah
they
they
pay
that
that's
part
of
what
they
have
to
cover.
Yes,
no
invoice
cloud
charges
the
customer
because
they
have
to
pay
the
merchant
fee.
So
that's
in
addition
to
the
295.
No,
that
comes
out
of
the
295.
okay,
so
the
295
minus
the
merchant
fees
is
what
they
make.
X
X
E
295
is
high,
you
know,
I
mean
if
we
have
68
percent
of
our
residents
pay
nothing
for
nothing
on
top
of
their
bill
because
they
have
you
know
they
get
it
or
not.
They
mail
it
or
they
have
a
direct
deposit
or
automatic
debit.
It's
our
lowest
income
people
that
this
affects.
Don't
you
think
more
than
likely.
X
E
Okay
and
then
you
know,
I
heard
I've
heard
from
residents-
you
talk
about
and
have
had
you're
not
completely.
We
weren't
completely
satisfied
with
this.
E
N
X
Okay,
we
with
our
current
provider.
We
we
send
them
a
file,
they
know
everyone's
balance,
they
accept
payments
against
that
those
balances
and
they
send
the
file
back
to
us
and
we
update
the
database
with
the
new
provider.
They'll
have
integration
into
the
system.
So
when
you
call
to
say
what
do
I
owe
they'll
check,
the
live
database
you'll
pay
that
and
then
they'll
update
it.
This
is
all
electronic.
There
is
another
vendor
that
does
the
bill
printing
and
delivery.
X
Y
Of
the
things
one
of
the
primary
objectives
is
the
customer
service
improvement.
Real-Time
evidence
of
bill
payment,
which,
right
now
the
utility
customer
service
does
not
have
that,
creates
a
lot
of
issues
they
send
out,
obviously
thousands
of
bills,
and
so
this
this
will
solve
that
problem,
which
has
been
a
long-term
one
for
ucs.
C
Vice
mayor,
I'm
a
little
confused
if
I
put
a
check
in
the
mail
to
pay
my
bill,
there's
no
additional
fee.
No,
but
if
I
walk
in
and
pay
at
the
counter
with
a
check,
there's
a
according
to
the
way.
I'm
reading
this
there's
a
295
convenience
fee,
if
you're
paying
with
a
check
only.
X
C
X
There
are
multiple
online,
so
you
can
use
a
credit
card,
you
can
use
a
debit
card
or
you
can
do
direct
debit.
So
the
credit
card
and
the
debit
card
is
a
is
an
individual
transaction
that
you
authorize
and
that
charges
it.
If
it's
coming
directly
out
direct
debit,
we
actually
we
verify
with
your
bank.
It
comes
right
out
of
your
account.
There's
zero
overhead.
Okay,
we're
directed
right.
B
Consent,
yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
thank
you
10.1
9.1,
9.1,
hoping
to
get
out
of.
O
Mr
gloucester,
good
morning,
earl,
gloucester
director
of
salvation
services,
said
all
that
just
to
say
that
we're
replacing
l3
harris
that's
the
leak
last
leasing
on
our
north
tower
with
the
state
of
florida.
The
state
of
florida
has
been
in
partnership
with
l
three
harris
for
a
number
of
years,
and
they
just
decided
to
re
reverse
the
relationship.
It's
just
an
exercise
on
the
contract.
We
agreed
to
them
doing
it,
and
this
is
all
it
is
any.
Z
A
proven
agreement
with
the
pinellas
county
supervisor
of
elections
to
conduct
the
city's
march
15
2022
general
election
in
the
amounts
of
141
88
532.88
and
authorized
appropriate
officials
to
execute
same
council
members
and
your
gender
pack.
You
had
a
copy
of
the
invoice
as
well
as
the
contract.
This
is
strictly
just
to
conduct
our
elections,
as
we
have
historically
contracted
with
the
pinellas
county.
So
it's
just
to
conduct
our
general
elections.
Z
I
do
want
to
speak
to
the
cost,
increase
it's
a
little
much
higher
than
in
the
past.
Our
last
election
was
approximately
45
000.
This
now
includes
because
of
covid.
There
were
a
couple
of
changes
that
the
supervisor
of
elections
implemented.
One
is
making
sure
that
the
costs
were
appropriate
for
the
time
it
was
over
20
years,
since
the
costs
were
increased.
So
now
we
are
paying
for
postage
actual
postage
rate
as
well
as
the
poll
workers.
Z
Z
It
is
it's
almost
three
times
if
we
were
to
coincide
with
for,
for
instance,
our
next
election
that
coincides
with
the
presidential
practice
primary.
The
cost
is
very
different.
The
approximate
cost
is
about
twenty
thousand
dollars,
that's
the
difference.
So
if
we
do
a
referendum
in
november,
it'll
be
about
twenty
thousand
dollars,
plus
any
advertising
that
would
be
required
for
our
ballot
questions.
G
Mayor
11.11.2
are
just
second
readings
from
vacating
public
right
away.
J
J
J
We
expect
to
have
all
of
the
sidewalks
completed
within
the
next
four
to
six
months,
even
the
ones
that
are
being
impacted,
and
we
also
just
as
an
aside,
have
35
broken
curbs
that
we're
also
focused
on.
So
all
of
that
work
should
be
done
within
the
next
four
to
six
weeks
and
again,
I
just
want
to
thank
both
of
those
departments.
J
J
J
Mr
miscavige
has
repeatedly
promised
a
full
commitment
to
work
with
the
city
to
align
with
the
goals,
to
make
our
downtown
more
vibrant
and
active
as
a
new
person
who
is
really
not
encumbered
with
the
past.
I
believe
it
is
time
to
put
the
acrimony
of
the
past
behind
us
to
work
with
a
real
estate
development
partner,
the
church,
to
maximize
the
vision
of
our
downtown.
J
I
am
only
discussing
the
opportunity
to
work
on
improving
our
downtown
and
not
a
judgment
on
the
church,
as
I
personally
know
through
my
own
faith,
has
taught
me
that
I
am
imperfect
to
pass
judgment
on
anyone
so
shortly.
I
hope
to
bring
to
the
council
a
proposal
for
your
consideration
that
will
enable
the
city
to
work
collaboratively
with
the
church
on
their
real
estate
holdings
for
the
maximum
benefit
of
the
city.
J
I
also
wanted
just
to
mention
that
today
is
denise
anderson's
birthday,
but
also
our
very
own
joelle
costelli
is
celebrating
a
significant
birthday,
which
I
will
leave
that
to
her
to
explain
and
then.
Finally,
I
want
to
just
wish
everyone
a
very
merry
christmas
and
a
very
safe
start
to
the
new
year.
B
G
I
have
two
items:
they
kind
of
bleed
over
between
city
attorneys
reports
and
new
business,
but
we
can
just
kind
of
talk
about
it
now.
I
believe
the
first
is
with
the
opioid
task
force
relating
to
pinellas
county,
so
this
council
previously
approved
an
interlocal
agreement
with
the
county
in
several
cities
in
pinellas
county
to
guide
the
disposition
of
funds
relating
to
opioid
settlements.
G
G
That
recommendation
that
this
committee
makes
is
binding
throughout
the
county
unless
it
is
overruled
by
the
county
commission
by
a
supermajority
of
the
county,
and
so
one
thing
for
this
council
to
consider
perhaps
in
a
future
workshop
is
who
you'd
like
to
appoint
to
serve
on
that
committee.
It
could
be
a
council
member
could
be
a
member
of
mr
jennings
leadership
team.
I
would
not
recommend
a
citizen
given
the
amount
of
control
this
committee
is
going
to
have
over
public
funds.
So
that's
something
to
discuss
in
the
future.
B
B
G
That
sounds
good,
so
the
one
thing
that
I'd
like
to
discuss
at
a
future
meeting
would
be
the
implementation
of
a
potential
council
rule
relating
to
remote
attendance,
particularly
in
the
age
of
covid,
where
a
lot
of
things
have
changed
quickly
in
the
world.
We
know
that
we
went
through
a
period
of
time
where
the
governor
was
allowing
remote
attendance
at
public
meetings
that
ended
fairly
quickly
the
current
status,
meaning
that
the
kind
of
informal
practice
that
this
council
has
had
under
mistaken.
G
However,
there
had
been
circumstances
in
which
someone
could
attend
a
work
session,
telephonically
or
remotely
it's
up
to
this
council
to
decide
whether
to
implement
a
rule
relating
to
that
or
not
whether
you'd,
like
that
rule
to
be
firm
or
whether
you'd
like
it
to
be
flexible,
is
completely
up
to
you.
There
are
only
a
couple
restrictions
in
state
law,
but
not
very
many.
It
is,
however,
my
recommendation
to
counsel
that
this
council
consider
what
you'd
like
to
do
so
that
way,
everyone
has
good
expectations
to
guide
council
in
the
future.
That's
all.
F
Psta
report
I'll
keep
it
I'll
keep
it
brief.
The
biggest
thing
that
we
discussed
last
week
was
the
the
buying
the
purchase
of
60
electric
buses
over
the
next
five
years.
I
guess
about
12
years
ago,
maybe
even
a
little
bit
longer.
We
we
got
a
a
great
thing
from
the
government
gave
us
funds
to
buy
60
buses,
but
we
bought
them
all
at
one
time,
which
is
a
problem,
especially
when
they
come
due
to
be.
F
You
know,
psd
has
done
a
real
good
job
of
of
actually
extending
the
life
from
the
government
says:
500
000
to
800
000.
By
replacing
the
motors,
we
have
a
very
great
shop,
a
bunch
of
people
that
that
go
through
the
buses
and
keep
them
running,
but
the
60
electric
buses
over
five
years
is
a
good
start.
F
F
Each
electric
bus
is
recharged
one
of
three
ways:
overnight:
charging
regenerative,
braking
and
online
charging
stations
on
route
charging
stations.
Excuse
me
loops
under
the
asphalt
the
battery
range
averages
200
miles
or
about
14
hours
of
operating
time
on
a
single
charge
and
we'll
save
about
20
000
a
year
in
diesel
fuel
costs
for
each
bus.
F
E
Yeah,
I
just
was
thinking
like,
maybe
in
january,
if
we
could
talk
about
as
the
legislative
session
starts,
and
I
applaud
joelle
and
our
communications
team
for
developing
that
legislative
priorities
page
but
talk
about
how
frequently
it
will
be
updated
and
what
we
can
do
to
either
track
resident
engagement
or
encourage
resident
engagement.
And
then
I
was
thinking
about
our
state
lobbyist
team
like
what
are
we
paying
them
for?
I
I
think
you
sent
me
the
contract
and
stuff
early
when
I
got
elected
and
I
was
going
to
search
for
it.
E
Z
I
would
say
a
town
hall
meeting
may
be
outside
their
scope
of
services,
but
that
is
something
that
I
can
approach
them
and
see
if
they
would
be
willing.
I
am
working
with
them
right
now
to
see
when
they
can
come
to
council
to
do
a
pre-session
update
and
that's
something
that
can
be
discussed.
Then
in
terms
of
updating
the
website,
I
will
be
providing
public
communications
as
those
status
requests
or
action
requests
from
the
league
come
up
or
when
the
our
lobbyists
tell
us
of
something.
Z
So
remember
we're
going
to
try
to
be
as
strategic
as
possible,
based
on
our
recommendations
from
our
lobbyists
in
terms
of
when
we
want
the
public
engaged,
but
I
will
provide
an
update
to
public
communications
and
whenever
there
is
a
request
for
action,
I
think
the
best
way
would
be
going
not
so
much
through
the
city
website,
but
posting
those
requests
via
social
media,
and
I
think
that's
what
their
plan
is
as
well.
E
And
then
you
know
when
we
adopted
our
priorities,
our
legislative
priorities,
I
mean
they're
kind
of
broadly
stated
so
there's
a
a
net
metering
bill.
That's
going
to
be
coming
up
that,
I
think,
is
pretty
detrimental
and
I've
got
documents
from
three
different.
You
know
non-profit
groups
from
all
sides
of
political
spectrum
that
I
was
going
to
share
with
you
today
because
you
had
sent
something
out
last
week
about
and
but
I'm
wondering
is
that
just
your
judgment
to
share
that?
Is
it
a
consensus
with
the
council
or
how
do
those.
Z
If
council,
if,
let's
say
members
of
council,
have
an
item
that
they
want,
they
want
staff
to
really
provide
some
information
to
the
public.
Then
it's
really
a
consensus
of
council.
It's
not
really
just
up
to
me!
So
unless
it's
something
that
the
city
manager
or
if
the
city
attorney
sees
something
that
feels
okay,
this
really
elevates
that
point,
but
typically
when
it
comes
to
that
level
of.
If
you
want
a
city's
official
position
on
an
item,
it
needs
to
come
from
council,
okay,
but
to.
Z
Depends
if
you're,
if
you're,
stating
sharing
information
from
other
organizations,
I
think
that's
really
more
collegial,
because
it
may
not
necessarily
give
staff
the
time
to
review
the
information
to
see
what
those
organizations
are
providing
to
see.
If
that's
really
something
that
the
city
really
should
take
a
position
on.
Okay,
thank.
E
B
One
thing
I'd
like
to
talk
about
in
the
future
is:
we
do
have
a
policy
for
recognizing
sports
achievements
generally
and
we've
never
done
anything
for
bobby
fink
who
won
a
gold
medal
and
is
a
clearwater
resident
and
also
the
calvary
girls.
B
Volleyball
team
has
won
the
state
championship
and
I
don't
think
the
policy
talks
about
public
versus
private
schools
and
it's
something
I
want
to
clarify
and
I
know
there's
issues
that
can
come
with
that.
But
it's
something
I'd
like
to
talk
about
in
the
future
and
I
know
we
would
have
to
take
the
bombers
down
because
we're
only
allowed
two
recognitions
on
the
causeway.
B
I
was
told
by
somebody
in
parks
and
rec.
We
were
only
allowed
to
by
fdot.