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A
C
B
B
B
E
E
To
that
end,
I
understand
there's
a
couple
of
items
on
the
agenda,
particularly
input
from
the
board
members
as
to
what
initiatives
could
be
undertaken
to
develop
the
downtown.
I'm
looking
forward
to
that,
I
would
also
like
us
to
note
that
the
new
city
manager,
mr
jennings,
has
engaged
in
conversations
with
david
miscavige
of
the
church
of
scientology
relative
to
a
role
that
they
may
have
in
some
type
of
development
with
us
in
the
downtown
area
or
at
least
to
make
sure
that
we
are
successful
with
our
downtown
development.
E
E
Here
in
clearwater,
I
would
be
curious
as
to
whether
anybody
has
any
input
or
any
feedback
as
to
how
successful
that
was,
and
at
the
time
we
were
talking
about
the
possibility
of
that
continuing
the
following
year.
If
there's
been
any
discussion
of
that
on
another
note,
I'd
like
us
to
consider
something
that
we
might
participate
in
here
in
clearwater,
similar
to
that
perhaps
something
of
a
religious
spin.
Well,
not
really,
but
st
patrick's
day
comes
to
mind
to
this
irishman,
then
maybe
there's
something
we
could
do
in
that
line
as
well.
B
We
have
not
had
a
formal
report
from
anyone,
but
just
anecdotally
for
my
own
staff
that
was
present
during
the
event.
There
was
hundreds
of
people
in
the
block,
lots
of
people
in
costume
and
pirate
costume
and
partying
and
doing
their
thing,
but
also
lots
of
non-pirates
that
were
there
as
spectators.
So
it
was
very
well
attended
from
what
I
can
gather.
E
F
Speaking
aboard
howard
smith,
business
assistant
administrator
for
the
community
redevelopment
agency
funds
spent
in
december
2020
2021
were
317
728
dollars,
a
detailed
breakdown
of
the
expenditures
were
provided
when
we
sent
the
agenda
item
to
you
earlier
within
the
week.
The
ending
balance
to
the
ddb's
fiscal
year
budget
is
611
056
dollars.
F
As
of
january
24
2022,
the
ddb
has
allocated
132,
955
dollars
and
75
cents
of
their
marketing
line
item,
with
the
remaining
balance
being
a
hundred
and
seventeen
thousand
forty
four
hundred
and
seventeen
thousand
forty
four
dollars
and
twenty
five
cents
as
of
january
twenty.
Second,
twenty
twenty
two,
the
ddb,
has
allocated
zero
dollars
of
their
business
assistance
line
item
with
the
remaining
balance
being
two
hundred
thousand.
F
For
the
project
and
policy
line,
adam
you've
allocated
zero
dollars
to
that
line
item
with
the
remaining
balance
being
twenty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
and
fifty
dollars.
B
G
B
F
So,
as
of
december
7th
of
last
year,
you
as
a
board,
you
all
prep,
you
all
approved
funding
for
the
hispanic
outreach
cultural
center
to
fund
our
holiday
event
in
the
amount
of
four
thousand
six
hundred
and
fifty
five
dollars.
The
hoc
is
here
today
to
provide
an
update
on
the
event
that
took
place
in
december,
and
with
that
I
have
I'll
make
sure
I
get
this
correct.
Vicki
abondo
she
is
their
family
advocate
staff.
Member
here
to
give
you
the
update.
I
I
The
intercultural
advocacy
institute
normally
do
this
event.
Every
year
in
december
this
year
I
will
describe
like
a
successful
event
because
we
double
or
triple
the
amount
of
people
that
has
been
gathered
in
that
night.
So
we
have
about
we
expected
to
have
150
people.
We
definitely
have
406
that
we
could
count
and
register
in
the
lists.
So
we
have
some
pictures
that
you
will
appreciate
and
see
how
the
people
was
waiting,
making
lines
trying
to
get
as
soon
as
possible
to
get
the
picture
with
santa
get
the
family.
I
It
was
a
good
opportunity
to
have
other
family
members
with
them
in
the
pictures.
So
that's
what
we
counted.
Only
more
than
100
families
registered
but
plus
the
family
members
did
make
it
bigger.
We
also
have
participating
in
activities
that
we
made
for
kids,
so
we
make
some
crafts
and
ornaments
and
we
decorate
cookies.
So
the
kids
were
enjoying
every
single
activity,
so
they
can
stay
since
4
30
until
7
30..
We
finish
with
the
food
by
the
way
it
wasn't
enough.
I
This
year
we
expected
to
have
less
people,
so
I
can
say
that
we
got
every
picture
that
you
see
here
with
the
family.
Members
were
really
appreciate
for
them.
We've
been
very
happy
to
have
this
event
put
in
like
this
santa
wasn't
that
happy,
because
he
wanted
to
have
like
a
roof
in
case
of
rain,
but
we
said
we
won't.
We
won't
have
rain
that
night,
but
yeah
lights
were
perfect
and
the
environment
was
safe.
I
We
got
the
police
officers
over
there
also-
and
this
is
the
part
of
the
jolly
program
that
I
would
like
you
to
see-
all
crafts
that
the
ladies
have
been
prepared
during
the
year
and
we
we've
been
doing
presentations
we
decorate
to
the
table,
so
it
will
be
nice
for
the
people
to
appreciate
all
the
products
that
they
they
did
it
also.
We
have
a
special
what
I
was
talking
about
activities
and
crafts
that
the
kid
has
they
have
the
letter
for
santa
they
write
the
letter.
They
ask
for
wishes
and
they
send
it.
I
So
there
is
some
pictures
that
you
can
see
of
the
food
and
everything
and
how
many
people
was
enjoying
the
event.
Also,
we
have
some
cotton
candy
that
it
was
amazing
the
quantity
of
people
that
making
the
lines
like
it
was
like
disney
trying
to
get
the
just
small
amount
of
popcorn
in
cotton
candy.
So
we
expected
to
have
for
the
next
year
better
quantities.
I
B
B
Okay,
now
howard
did
you
have
some
more
or.
B
D
I'll
begin,
yes,
I
spoke
to
several
different
people
who
come
to
the
restaurants
visit
downtown
and
what
and
ask
them
what
they
would
be
interested
in,
seeing
or
having
down
here,
because
I
wanted
to
hear
it
from
their
perspective
what
they
would
like
to
have.
So
I
got
a
list
of
ideas
and
I
can
just
kind
of
go
through
them
and
tell
you
what
came
up
something
that
I
thought
was
very
interesting
is
I
have
some
clients
and
some
friends
who
go
downtown:
they
they
travel
downtown.
D
They
said,
there's
nothing
directing
people
to
come
downtown
and
they
thought
maybe
a
billboard
on
you
know.
Court
street
would
be
something
that
would
be
terrific
to
direct
people
to
come
over
here,
and
I
thought
that
was
a
great
idea,
because
there
really
is
nothing
to
bring
people
here
into
downtown.
So
that
was
one
idea,
and
that
was
something
that
we
could
help
on,
I
believe
from
our
marketing
budget.
You
know
from
that
main
street
from
court
street
to
direct
people
to
come
over
here.
D
Another
idea
was
a
dinner
theater,
so
I
don't
know
where
we
would
put
a
dinner
theater,
but
that
was
an
idea
that
was
given,
and
I
thought
that
would
be
fantastic
if
we
could
do
something
like
that,
something
to
enhance
the
restaurants,
because
I
don't
know
if
the
restaurants
alone
will
bring
people
to
downtown
in
the
amount
of
people
that
we
would
like
the
amount
of
business
that
we
would
like
to
see
down
here.
So
we
were
kind
of
thinking
out
of
the
box
out
of
just
the
restaurant
idea,.
D
They
suggested
the
bike
path.
I
know
the
bike
path,
the
pinellas
trail
in
clear
water
when
you
come
through
it's
sort
of
like
a
concrete
jungle.
When
you
come
through
clear
water,
if
there's
anything
we
can
do
or
any
input,
we
have
that
we
can
say
to
increase
the
beauty
of
the
pinellas
trail
in
the
downtown
area.
D
Someone
else
said
a
trader
joe's
would
be
great.
That
would
be
terrific
if
we
could
have
some
sort
of
a
shopping
center
down
here.
That
would
bring
people,
and
I
think
that
place.
That's
that
store
that
used
to
be
what
was
it
the
wall,
the
walgreens,
that
would
be
a
great
place
for
a
trader
joe's.
That's
just
an
idea.
D
D
Okay,
so
those
are
what
I
came
up
with
when
I
talk
to
people
and
together
their
ideas
of
what
they
would
like
to
see
in
downtown.
B
J
We
actually
were
talking
about
wayfinding
signs
monday
at
our
work
session.
I
think
we'll
probably
be
discussing
it
again
tomorrow
night,
but
we've
got
some
really
nice
designs
to
lead
people
downtown
and
to
the
park
once
once.
That's
finished
and
various
places
around
the
city,
so
those
should
be
put
up
at
some
point
not
too
far
away.
We
wanted
to
have
some
out
on
19,
but
the
county
is
not
allowing
us
to
do
that,
but
throughout
the
city
I
think
we'll
have
some
nice
signs
directing
you
downtown.
A
Can
I'll
just
say
my
comments
to
the
end
about
what
any
updates
or
yeah
just
responses.
B
The
only
input
I
have
on
the
I
think
these
are
some
good
ideas.
The
only
thing
I
can
think
of
on
trader
joe's
is
that
somebody
had
asked
trader
joe's
some
time
back
and
they
had
fairly
strict
criteria
on
the
median
income
of
the
area
and
various
other
parameters
for
where
they
would
place
a
store,
and,
unfortunately,
our
area,
it
seems
hard
to
believe,
but
it
didn't
fit.
The
criteria.
B
G
I'll
take
next
good
job
to
attract
businesses
into
downtown.
G
We
have
to
tell
them
we're
here
and
I
don't
think
we
promote
enough
that
ddb
is
here
to
help
businesses
to
get
going
or
provide
some
funding
for
them.
So
if
we
figure
out
a
way
to
let
her
know,
we
are
here,
maybe
do
some
local
online
ads
from
ddb.
I'm
not
sure.
If
we
can
do
that
legally
or
not.
Maybe
we
can
to
promote
that
ddv
is
here
and
does
so?
Can
we
legally
put
out
ads
that
ddb
under
certain
criteria
provides
funding
for
marketing
of
businesses
in
greater
downtown.
K
There's
nothing
you
you
just
would
have
to
I'm
sorry,
you
would
just
have
to
be
very
careful
how
you
did
it
that
you
had
some
criteria.
K
G
K
We
we
used
to
have
programs
where
we
recruitment
programs,
where
we're
promoting
downtown
as
a
place
to
move
to,
and
we
had
grants
recruitment
grants
we
also
as
far
as
existing
businesses
of
concern,
and
none
of
this
is
illegal
as
far
as
existing
businesses
are
concerned.
Promotions
that
encompass
what
time,
what
what
we
had
downtown.
G
So
we
can
allocate
a
budget
and
then
and
put
out
some
ads
online
or
if
this,
if
the
county
doesn't
allow
the
city
put
out
signs,
she
mentioned
billboard
on
19.
We
could
have
a
billboard
that
ddb
announcing
such
a
such
a
program.
Now
this
dovetails
into
what
the
city
requires
of
businesses
to
come
in.
There
was
a
gentleman
I
met
here
last
time
last
month.
I
go
so
welcome
to
downtown
clearwater.
G
How
could
we
improve?
He
goes
gosh
you
guys
it's
harder
to
get
a
business
going
here
than
new
york
city,
so
maybe,
as
a
group,
we
can
actually
put
in
some
requests
or
resolutions
for
the
city
to
for
new
incoming
businesses
to
cut
down
some
of
the
requirements,
make
it
easier
for
them
to
at
least
to
start
give
a
moratorium.
For
I
don't
know
what
all
the
requirements
would
be.
G
Permitting,
oh
my,
we
can
make
recommendations,
maybe
through
cra
to
city
council,
that
for
any
new
business
within
the
year,
2023
and
24
to
get
less
of
the
requirements
or
we've
got
to
compete
with
the
fellow
neighbor
cities.
If
we
know
what
they're
doing
and
we
can
actually
be
easier
than
them,
we
should
be
able
to
recruit.
Businesses
make
it
a
lot
easier
to
come.
G
G
So
if
we
want
a
bustling
area,
we
have
to
lower
or
ease
the
barriers.
What
the
city
barriers
are?
I
don't
have
a
list.
I
haven't
decided
to
start
a
business
in
downtown,
but
if
I
did,
I'd
probably
make
a
list
of
checklist
of
all
the
stuff
needs
to
happen.
G
Maybe
as
a
group,
we
can
actually
put
something
together.
So
someone
come
in
and
start
a
businesses,
let's
say
retail,
because
that's
what
we
want
people
to
come.
A
So
amplify
does
have
that
list
already
great
on
their
website.
They
have
an
entire
resource
that
has
everyone's
name
and
number
that
you
need
to
do
anything
you
would
need
to
do
so.
They
have
created
that
I
mean
we
can
help
them
promote
that.
So
it's
more
widely
advertised
the
planning
and
development
department.
A
They
also
are
doing
a
business
process
study
this
year
I
mean
all
the
permitting
and
regulations
has
kind
of
been
studied
to
death
in
terms
of
there's
a
business
task
force,
and
then
there's
been
more
letters
and
then,
but
where
we
are
right
now
is
the
you
know,
city,
council
and
or
state
law
right,
they're,
not
willing
to
peel
back
regulations,
and
some
are
state
regulations
that
we
don't
control
right,
that
you'd
have
to
meet,
but
in
terms
of
our
zoning
requirements
which
encompasses
signage-
and
I
mean
it's-
it's
local
ordinance.
A
So
you
couldn't
eliminate
that
without
eliminating
or
changing
that
ordinance
and
then
the
planning
department
and
development
department,
they
are
severely
short
staffed
right
now
and
they
are
supplementing
that
through
using
contractors
they're
trying
to
you,
know,
outsource
and
or
bring
in
contractors
as
much
as
they
can
but
they've
been.
A
You
know,
they've
been
hit
really
hard
during
this
time.
A
Both
so
some
somehow
they're
still
an
incredibly
large
volume
of
work
coming
in
I
mean
they
got
17
applications
yesterday
to
go
through
a
level
one
review
and
they
have
three
development
review
people
right.
These
are
17
applications
that
need
kind
of
an
additional
that
just
aren't
like
an
over
the
counter
kind
of
permit.
A
So
yes,
it's
good
that
we
have
activity
in
our
city,
but
the
city
has
really
not
been
able
to
fill
those
positions
for
a
combination
of
reasons,
whether
it's
you
know
competitive
pay
ability
to
work
remotely
at
least
hybrid
people
who
dropped
out
of
the
workforce
because
of
child
care
issues
or
other
health
issues,
or
you
know
caring
for
right.
So
I
mean
just
the
mix
of
the
impacts
of
covid
right,
our
competitiveness
as
a
organization
right
versus
other
organizations
in
terms
of
benefits
and
and
the
nature
of
the
work
right.
A
You
know
from
their
perspective
of
what's
happened
right
in
a
process,
and
sometimes
people
just
don't
like
filling
out
paperwork
so,
and
it
requires
a
lot
of
paperwork
so
it
they
are
looking
at
it.
They
are
committed
to
being
more
customer
friendly,
and
some
of
it
is
a
larger
community
conversation
where
I
think
the
there's
many
people
in
this
community
who
don't
have
to
go
through
a
party
meeting
process
and
they
want
certain
regulations
in
place
right.
They
don't
really
want
to
peel
back
those
regulations.
G
That's
interesting
so
I
mean
our
function
is
very
limited
at
downtown
and
it's
just
the
key.
We
come
just
promote
that
we're
here
and
we
can
help
somehow
by
funding
some
marketing
other
than
that.
I
mean
it's
quite
a
bit
of
a
city
council.
Maybe
we
do
put
a
request
to
peel
back
some
of
the
stuff,
the
easier
ones
it
doesn't
have
to
be
all
the
requirements
put
in,
for
let's
say
for
new
businesses
for
six
months
or
a
year,
they
don't
have
to
comply
with
that.
That's
that
one
concept,
the
other.
A
G
I'm
interested
if
there's
such
a
person
who's
familiar
with
that
we
could
a
cra
recommend
someone
for
us
set
aside.
Some
funding
that'd
be
great
yeah
now
on
another
whole
subject
that
we
have.
This
beautiful
park
is
being
set
up,
having
lived
in
portland
oregon
and
haven't
become
a
food
destination
in
the
nation.
G
It
was
it's
amazing
how
people
come
up
at
all
at
the
beginning,
a
lot
of
it
started
with
food
trucks,
so
we're
building
this
park,
there's
sort
of
like
one
section
of
it
that
it's
not
even
make
it
unsightly
is
the
can
have
a
allocation
of
space
on
peer
street
and
under
the
bridge
along
that
edge
to
set
aside
space
for
food
trucks
and
put
in
I
don't
know
somehow
competition,
but
that's
a
recommendation,
city,
council
or
cra,
because
that
will
bring
people.
G
Food
brings
people
and
then
we'll
have
a
venue
of
an
event.
So
all
restaurants
will
not
be
able
to
cater
to
three
or
four
thousand
people
to
come,
so
that'd
be
a
great
spot.
For
probably
you
could
fit
like
a
eight
or
ten
food
trucks
in
there
if,
as
some
sort
of
a
platform
gets
set
up.
B
B
See
that
that
has
for
me
personally,
if
I
was
starting
a
business,
if
there
was
somebody
like
that,
that
would
say:
okay
you're,
because
when
you
start
a
business
generally,
it's
the
first
time
you're
doing
it
and
you
don't
really
know
everything
about
it.
So
I'm
starting
a
store.
I'm
planning
to
sell
some
stuff,
some
snacks.
Who
would
imagine
that
you
need
a
license
from
the
department
of
agriculture?
I
don't
own
a
plow,
I'm
not
doing
any
farming,
you
have
to
have
a
licensed
vote
and
then
to
get
the
license.
B
You
have
to
jump
through
whose
and
then,
if
you
follow
some
of
their
suggestions,
then
the
city
of
clearwater
shows
up
and
says.
Oh,
you
have
a
triple
sink
that
the
department
of
agriculture
made
you
get,
even
though
you
don't
have
any
dishes
now
you
need
a
grease
trap,
but
I
don't
have
any
grease,
but
it's
like
these
kinds
of
things
that
happen
that
you
have
no
way
of
anticipating
these
things.
B
B
You
know
food
permit
requirements
or
something
for
you
for
food
safety,
but
there's
a,
but
they
could
be
also
very
helpful
in
saying
you
need
this,
and
this
and
this
so
you
don't
run
into
trouble
later
on
and
so
that
I
think
that
has
a
great
deal
of
merit
and
somebody
armed
with
the
amplifies
list
and
some
general
background
of
knowledge
would
really
be
helpful
right.
So
I
think
that
that
idea
certainly
has
some
errors
in
my
opinion.
J
J
David
margolis,
especially,
is
going
through
everything
with
a
fine-tooth
comb
and
and
trying
to
change
how
we
do
business.
So
also,
john
jennings
told
me
yesterday
that
we
have
or
have
at
least
ordered
bollards
now
for
cleveland
street,
so
we
should
be
making
that
look
better
sometime
in
the
near
future.
B
E
It
would
be
all
right.
Actually,
our
last
council,
there
was
a
young
gentleman
that
went
to
that
council
meeting
who
was
starting
up
a
new
business
in
clearwater
from
upstate
new
york.
He
was
complaining
about
the
difficulties
he
was
having
in
getting
his
business
started.
I
didn't
catch
his
name
or
the
business
either
one,
but
my
question
is
talking
about
this
permit
expediter,
when
someone
does
want
to
engage
with
the
city
of
clearwater
and
start
a
business,
I'm
assuming
they
reach
out
to
some
organization
or
somebody
to
say.
E
I
would
like
to
do
this
type
of
thing.
Who
is
that
or
what
is
that
organization
and
are
they
equipped
presently
to
say
we
want
you
to
be
successful
and
we're
here
to
facilitate
your
success.
If
you
have
problems
permits
anything
you
come
to
us
and
we
start
knocking
down
the
obstacles.
Is
there
anything
like
that?
Presently,.
A
Well,
there's
a
couple
things:
there's
howard
smith
right
here,
he's
our
number
one
obstacle
remover
and
slash
therapist,
and
you
know,
for
if
you're
in
the
cra
howard
can
help
get
people
in
touch
with
the
right
people
amplify
clearwater
right,
which
is
our
chamber
of
commerce.
They
have
a
lot
of
small
business
resources
as
it
is
spark
which
is
a
coalition,
but
generally
what
happens?
A
The
side
that
you
don't
hear
from
the
small
business
and
the
entrepreneurs
is
that
they
don't
want
to
spend
money
right,
so
we
as
a
society
have
become
much
more.
You
know
accountant,
lawyerly,
paperworky,
regulation
overall
right
right,
the
amount
of
regulations
has
increased
immensely
and
because
and
also
because
we've
become
more
litigious
right.
So
everyone
said
well,
you
have
to
have
an
engineer
stamp
this,
or
this
has
to
be
submitted
by
an
architect.
A
You
know
you
have
to
prove
that,
even
though
you're
only
selling
snacks,
this
building
isn't
going
to
fall
down
right
for
all
these
external
forces.
So
generally,
what
happens
when
you're
dealing
with
these
small
business
entrepreneurs
is
they're,
great
chefs
or
they're
great
at
finding
their.
You
know,
dueling
piano
talent.
A
They
have
never
used
a
general
contractor
before
or
hired
one.
They
don't
necessarily
have
the
upfront
money
to
pay
for
some,
an
architect
lawyer
engineer
right
to
prepare
their
plans
or
put
those
things
together,
so
they're
trying
to
pull
everything
together
in
the
cheapest
way
possible,
and
it
doesn't
matter
how
much
hand-holding
you
know,
howard's,
not
an
engineer
who
can
stamp
their
plans.
So
there
are
resources,
but
there
is
not
one
person
right
now
who
would
be
dedicated
to
anyone
who
would
show
up
and
say
please
hold
my
hand
and
walk
me
through
everything.
E
But
I
also
think
if
that
position
existed
or
that
effort
was
there,
we
could
also
learn
why
this
person
was
not
successful.
They
didn't
have
the
funds
understandable
if
they
did
not
have
the
money
to
spend
or
the
capital.
That's
understandable.
You
just
have
to
be
successful,
but
if
there
are
obstacles
in
their
place,
be
it
from
planning
or
permitting
or
the
city.
E
If
we
learned
about
those
things,
perhaps
we
could
go
right
to
council
and
say
this
is
why
this
business
did
not
get
off
the
ground
downtown
that
we
were
and
that
gentleman
that
reminds
me
of
that
gentleman
was
at
the
last
counselor
young
fellow,
and
he
said
he
was
struggling.
But
beyond
that
I
can't
share
any
other.
I.
G
L
Young
man,
tony
propst,
new
york,
yeah.
I
don't
necessarily
think
it's
a
matter
of
funding
or
lack
of
experience
when
it
comes
to
contracting.
I
I've
built
a
city
block
in
upstate,
new
york
and
I
built
a
brewery
and
then
gentrified
the
following
areas
with
funds
from
other
other
people.
It's
not
necessary
monetarily,
it's
a
lace-on
like
I
referenced
last
time,
is
something
that
would
help
or
whatever
you
called
it.
I
seem
to
slip
my
mind,
but
that's
essentially
what
you
need
it's
each
state.
Each
county
is
absolutely
different.
L
The
once
once
knowledge
of
new
york
is
very
different
than
once
knowledge
in
new
jersey,
pennsylvania,
chicago
everything.
The
bread
tape
is
different,
pigments
different
colors
and
everything
and
everything
has
to
be
filed
very
differently.
So
if
you
have
someone
who's
experienced
in
the
area,
it's
like
anything.
L
I
did
this
business
here
now,
once
the
following
will
be
easier,
then
the
following
will
be
easier,
but
even
if
you
have
a
liaison
or
someone
to
help
you
to
guide
you
or
hand
hold
you
or
whatever
you
want
to
refer
to
it,
it's
not
the
incompetence
of
the
entrepreneur.
It's
the
lack
of
experience
in
that
area.
L
So,
when
you're,
when
you
look
at
an
entrepreneur
and
tell
them
hey,
well,
you
don't
have
the
funding.
Hey.
You
just
don't
know
better.
Well,
you've
been
working
here
for
four
or
five
years.
Yes,
I
don't
know
the
area
but
give
any
entrepreneur
enough
time.
Like
you
said
you
didn't
know,
you
needed
an
architectural
to
sell
snacks,
you
know
most
entrepreneurs,
don't
know
that
and
you
want
entrepreneurs
that
are
willing
to
take
that
risk.
L
L
No,
I
don't
even
know
what
that
is,
but
but
but
but
yeah
like
I
said,
if
I
would
have
known,
I
would
have
gone,
but
I've
we
went
through
all
the
process.
Howard
was
amazing.
I
absolutely
agree.
Howard
goddess
got
us
in
touch
with
many
people
that
we
needed
to
get
in
touch
with.
Then
we
had
a
lot
of
extra
help.
Like
I
said,
howard
has
been
pointing
us
in
the
right
direction
and
that
helps
sometimes
we
sometimes
we
find
that
it
is
like
a
little
treasure
hunt.
You
have
to
find
certain
things.
G
L
M
Sure,
all
right
so
for
anyways,
my
name's
matt
jackson,
I'm
the
new
on
cra
assistant
director
during
this
conversation,
I'd
be
very
remiss
not
to
come
up,
provide
some
remarks.
So
I
worked
in
the
city
of
clearwater's
planning
and
development
department
for
over
six
years
providing
development
review
for
new
projects
as
amanda
talked
about
those
17's
either
17
or
19
projects
came
in
to
go
before
I
commuted
on
the
board.
M
Yeah,
I
am,
I
reviewed
those
applications
and
I
was
a
project
manager
for
those
applications
coming
through.
So
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
few
words,
but
I
think
number
one
summarizing
everything
that
we're
talking
about.
There's
a
lot
of
information:
that's
not
available!
Well,
it's
not
readily
available
and
it's
not
getting
disseminated
to
potential
business
owners.
For
instance,
I
sat
on
a
committee,
the
building,
permit
review
committee
and
we
sat
down
once
a
month
or
once
a
week
I
apologize
and
met
with
people
who
wanted
to
have
businesses
projects
in
the
city
of
clearwater.
M
At
this
meeting,
you'd
have
someone
from
zoning
represented
public
utilities,
fire
police,
everybody
represented
it.
The
applicant
or
potential
applicant
would
discuss
the
project
and
then
we'd
go
around
the
room
and
talk
about
okay
on
a
planning
side.
You're
going
to
go
through
a
building
permit
a
level
one
community
development
course
and
council
review
and
then
every
department
every
every
representative
would
let
them
know
here's
what
you
need
to
know
to
get
that
project
off
the
ground
kind
of
the
pitfalls
you're
going
to
run
into.
M
But
then,
when
you
talk
about
paris
and
I'm
hearing
this
over
and
over
the
city
only
has
one
part
in
your
project.
There's
other
outside
agencies.
There's
things
that
we
just
can't
change.
We
can't
change
support
building
code.
We
can't
change
what
department
of
agriculture
requires.
However,
we
can
change
the
community
development
code,
which
I
saw
personally
happen,
while
during
my
tenure
in
the
planning
department,
for
instance,
in
downtown
in
a
certain
section
of
cleveland
street.
As
long
as
you
were
changing
the
use
from
like
retail
restaurant
to
office,
it
was
okay.
M
M
Instead
of
trying
to
grab
this
information
from
all
over
so
but
the
city
does
has
tried
very
hard
for
years,
I
can
attest
to
that
to
help
out
people
coming
through.
It's
just
getting
them
in
before
the
department
you
might
have
someone
who
comes
in
talks,
the
planning
talks,
the
building
goes
through
the
whole
thing
and
finds
out
what
they
have
to
do.
But
then
you
have
a
lot
of
folks
who
don't
do
that
and
they
go
into
it
blindly
hit
pitfall
after
pitfall
after
pitfall,
but
we
don't
know
who
these
people
are.
M
Unless
they
come
see
us,
they
got
to
come,
see
us
first,
so
very
nice
to
meet.
You
all
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
I
just
wanted
to
provide
that
information
pleasure.
Thank
you,
man.
Any
questions
before
I
sit
back
now.
Yes,
what's
your
phone
number
name,
mac,
jackson,
jackson,
yeah
in
my
city,
727.
M
G
A
H
N
A
So
now
it's
you
know
either
howard,
it's
going
to
be
the
property
owner
who
they're
entering
into
a
leasing
relationship
with,
or
perhaps
it's
going
to
be,
someone
in
dc
a
dcma
or
an
existing
business
on
the
street.
It's
going
to
be
a
peer-to-peer
connection,
probably
very
rarely
is
it
coming
through
amplify
clearwater
or
some
more
or
they're,
certainly
not
going
to
the
planning
and
development
department.
First,
that's
not
happening
right
or
the
ddb.
A
You
know.
Where
should
it
be?
I
think
that's
a
question.
We
should
talk
about
more,
maybe
how
that
should
be
more
pointed
because
it's
all
kind
of
how
they
e.
Maybe
the
question
is
more
like
no
matter
how
you
enter
into
the
system.
Where
should
everyone
be
pointing
you
to
right?
Is
that
first
contact
for
information
and
who
really
wants
to
kind
of
own
that
hand-holding
shepherding
process.
B
A
few
years
ago
we
had
the
mayor
of
saint
petersburg,
the
one
that
was
the
mayor
during
the
whole
evolution
into
what
it
is
today,
and
his
main
point
to
us
was
that
when
he
arrived,
he
addressed
the
city
employees
and
he
told
them.
Your
job
is
to
figure
out
how
to
make
this
happen,
not
how
to
figure
out
how
to
stop
it,
because
there
was
a
lot
of
bureaucracy
and
stuff
that
was.
B
B
So
we
have
to
overcome
that
perception
and
also
if
we
could
just
change
the
mindset
most
city
employees
that
I
deal
with
are
very
helpful
and
want
to
help
you
and
do
whatever
they
can
to
sort
you
out.
But
I
hear
lots
of
stories
of
well
they're,
not
quite
horror
stories,
but
they're
stories
of
difficulties
like
the
bprc.
That
matt
was
mentioning
it's
a
brilliant
idea
to
have
some
place
where
you
can
go
to
an
advance,
float
your
ideas
and
get
some
kind
of
pre-approval
that
this.
This
is
a
sensible
concept.
B
They
go
off,
they
hire
an
architect,
they
pay
money
to
get
plans
done
or
whatever,
and
then
they
show
up
at
for
a
permit.
Well,
no,
that's
not
going
to
fly
and
then
they've
lost
thousands
of
dollars
and
several
weeks
or
several
months
of
work-
and
I
hear
this-
you
know
I've
heard
this
a
number
of
times
for
people,
so
the
bprc
is
an
excellent
concept,
but
it
has
to
deliver
information
that
they
can
count
on,
because
they're
making
commitments
and
spending
money
and
going
forward
with
plans
based
on
what
they've
been
told.
B
K
K
Okay,
if
I
go
like
this
and
work
at
it,
I'm
catching
at
least
every
third
word.
H
B
So
we'll
all
talk
louder.
Let's,
let's
go
on
to
the
next
person
who
hasn't
given
us
their
ideas
yet
right.
C
I
think
we
all
hit
the
hammer
on
the
nail
on
the
head,
because
what
shahab
said
it
made
a
lot
of
sense,
except,
I
think
we
should
promote,
come
to
downtown
clearwater,
here's
a
person
that
can
walk
you
through
everything
and
if
you
run
into
a
problem,
you
go
see
this
person
again.
It's
one
person,
it's
not
15
different
people
and
this
person
should
be
headed
and
educated
to
where
to
send
everybody,
because
if
we
have
the
signs
and
everything
up
and
we
promote
people
into
downtown-
and
they
see
what's
here.
H
C
H
C
Have
been
trying
to
help
downtown
the
new
walgreens,
there's
a
big
ugly
skeleton.
Now
everybody
that
comes
off
that
beach,
which
is
the
one
way
from
the
beach
chestnut.
They
see
that
ugly
thing
and
we've
been
trying
to
put
a
beautiful.
I
mean
a
extraordinary
beautiful
building
there
what's
been
about
two
years
now
or
a
year,
and
a
half
and
howard
helps
me,
I
I
find
out
we
we
passed
the.
H
C
In
january
six,
it's
a
couple
small
things
and
then
my
architect
says:
yeah,
that's
not
a
big
deal.
I
don't
hear
anything
now.
I
could
start
construction
on
that
tomorrow.
If
I
get
a
building
permit
now.
I
also
have
a
lot
of
people
asking
me
for
space
downtown
to
put
their
businesses.
I
can't
find
them
anything.
C
C
So
when
they
come
down,
they
go
wow
instead
of
you
know
why
you
want
me
to
come
down
here.
Why
did
the
science
point
down
here?
Where
is
downtown?
You
know,
and
I'm
not
complaining,
I'm
just
merely
saying:
we've
brought
up
a
bunch
of
good
ideas.
There
should
be
a
group
of
people
or
one
or
two
people
promote
go
visit.
C
I
called
the
water
department.
They
said.
I
need
a
big
dumpster
back
there.
Now,
I'm
not
a
poor
guy,
but
it's
expensive
for
a
big
dumpster
and
it
takes
up
a
parking
space.
I
said:
there's
just
a
few
of
us
in
the
building
real
estate
people.
We
don't
need
a
dumpster,
we
don't
even
need
a
trash.
Can
oh,
no!
No!
It's
just
policy,
you
know
it's
commercial
building,
so
you
have
to
pay
the
extra
water
bill,
we're
not
going
to
use
any
water
a
bathroom,
but
it's
end
of
about
250
a
month.
C
C
C
C
Handled
we
don't
get
the
people
here
and
we
can't
market
it,
but
we
should
mark
it.
In
my
opinion,
is
here's
this
group
that's
going
to
boom
downtown
clearwater
and
you
could
call
them
and
they'll
handle
every
little
thing
that
you
need
done
or
they'll
tell
you
where
to
go,
and
then
you
can
come
back
and
make
sure
it
got
done
right.
You
follow,
don't
just
go
over
here
and
then
you
don't
see
them
again.
I
think
that
will
help
the
downtown,
because
the
demand
is
here.
C
B
Good
any
comments
on
reading
promote
that
we
promote
that
little
group
that
will
help
you
get.
O
You're
next
next,
I
like
fast
track,
and
I
think
the
cra
does
a
great
job
and
matt's
expertise.
It's
probably
right.
There
fast
track.
O
Playing
off
of
what
shahab
said,
I
he
stole
some
of
my
thunder,
but
these
little
guys
here
are
everywhere.
O
I
have
a
little
marketing
company
or
a
company
that
does
some
marketing
and
it
changed
the
landscape
as
much
as
the
internet
did
when
two
yellow
pages
right,
so
you
just
walk
down
the
street
or
go
to
an
airport
everybody's
glued
to
the
right
or
wrong.
That's
what's
happening.
So
I'm
thinking
that
we
have
a
pretty
decent
sized
budget
that
maybe
we
could
allocate
more
marketing
money
to
social
media
that
we
control,
because
sometimes
we
just
dole
it
out
to
whoever
shows
up
for
an
event
or
whatnot.
O
Maybe
we
do
a
matching
spend,
but
we
have
a
fund
allocated
that
is
constantly
pushing
out
to
the
tampa
audience
to
bring
as
we
do.
Events
like
the
pirate
event
was
great.
I
went
by
it.
It
was
cold
that
day.
So
I
imagine,
a
lot
of
people
went
ooh
too
cold
not
coming,
but
had
we,
you
know
been
augmenting
the
spend
and
the
advertising
they
were
doing.
O
So
if
we
had
our
own
monthly
budget,
then
it
tied
into
what
other
people
are
doing
and
we
hired
somebody
local
in
the
downtown,
not
my
company,
but
there's
20
others.
That
could
be
something
we
could
fund
immediately
to
bring
bodies
downtown.
B
N
So
two
items
that
I've
been
addressing
in
the
committee
work
I'll
address
when
we
get
into
the
next
line
item
in
terms
of
the
diversity
equity
committee,
but
two
other
ideas
I
had
and
I'll
start
with
the
caveat
that
I'm
not
a
big
fan
of
like
27
ideas
floating
around,
because
then
we
have
27
ideas
floating
around
and
then
you
know
we're
not
moving
forward
on
any
of
them.
So
the
ideas
we've
been
talking
about
have
been
great.
N
N
The
fees
of
I
think
parking
study
that
was
done
most
recently
identified
where
there
is
parking-
and
I
know
that
we're
working
on
refining
but
to
the
extent
that
there's
something
whether
it's
put
parts
of
our
budget
to
just
advertising
or
marketing
or
highlighting
where
parking
exists.
So
people
don't
feel
like
there's
a
parking
issue
that
would
probably
address
it,
even
if
it's
just
signage,
I'm
all
about
signs
and
identifying
things,
because
that
may
address
it,
because
when
I
talk
to
folks
and
they
express
a
concern,
one
of
their
concerns
is
parking.
N
But
then,
when
we
look
at
the
studies,
we're
told
from
the
studies
that
there
may
not
be
as
much
of
an
issue
with
it.
So
to
the
extent
that
there's
something
just
signage
that
would
assist
with
that
awesome.
The
other
idea-
and
I
think
this
is
along
the
lines
of
what
we've
been
talking
about,
is
something
that
years
ago.
I
remember
when
stu
was
on
the
board.
N
He
was
a
big
proponent
of
not
just
funding
events,
but
if
we're
going
to
have
a
strategy
fund
in
a
big
way,
a
strategy,
a
marketing
strategy,
hiring
a
pr
firm,
hiring
a
marketing
firm
and
going
forward
with
that.
We've
done
that
with
funding
or
giving
a
lot
of
money
to
the
dcma
who
have
really
been
boots
on
the
ground
and
have
been
really
helpful,
but
doing
that
in
a
big
way.
N
So
we're
not
sitting
on
pretty
significant
reserves,
it's
great
to
stay
for
a
rainy
day,
but
we're
not
really
necessarily
accomplishing
a
whole
lot
and
if
we
have
those,
not
the
75
or
the
50
reserves,
but
the
other
funds,
where
there's
just
unallocated
being
able
to
fund
that,
whether
it
be
one
of
our
projects
that
we're
talking
about
whether
it's
a
liaison,
whether
it's
a
marketing,
firm
or
a
pr
firm,
but
doing
something
in
a
big
picture
way
once
or
over
and
over,
depending
on
how
feasible.
That
is.
But
that's
more
of
a
mindset.
H
D
The
people
the
people
I
spoke
to
were
not
seeing
the
marketing.
I
know
that
we've
been
doing
flyers
brochures,
that
type
of
thing,
which
is
all
good,
but
the
people
that
I
spoke
to
did
not
ever
see
it.
That's
why
I
feel
that
signs
are
very
important
to
get
out
there
to
direct
people
over
here,
and
then
we
can
enhance
that
with
additional
marketing.
D
B
Okay,
so
before
I
get
to
mine,
I
have
two
points
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up,
but
I
want
to
say
that
this
has
all
been
really
good
to
just
have
some
ideas
be
originated.
B
I
think
what
we
should
do
at
the
end
of
this
is
somebody
write
up
something
with
good
notes
on
what
was
said
today
and
circulate
amongst
all
of
us
what
these
ideas
were,
but
it
percolate
for
a
bit
and
maybe
at
the
next
meeting
we
can
assess
a
priority
list
of
say.
You
know,
let's
pick
a
certain
number
as
some
you
know,
some
arbitrary
number,
the
top
three.
H
B
Top
five,
or
whatever,
out
of
all
the
ideas
that
have
been
suggested
and
discuss
those
as
an
agenda
item
and
see
which
ones
we
want
to
go
forward
on.
What
do
we
want
to
fund
something?
Do
we
want
to
study
it
further,
just
to
pick
what
we
want
to
actually
do?
We
can't
have
27
priorities,
but
you
can
have.
A
So
that
item
will
be
coming
before
council,
the
week
of
february
14th.
There
will
be
a
work
session
where
engineering
will
present
the
bollards
and
planters
and
the
cost
it's
a
little
bit
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
then
they'll
vote
on
it
on
thurs
on
the
following
thursday,
and
we
will
be
having
a
meeting
for
all
the
property
owners
and
tenants
on
the
400
and
500
block.
A
You
should
have
gotten
an
eventbrite
email
link
today,
the
friday
before
the
so
the
8th
so
the
morning
of
the
8th,
we're
having
a
big
all
departments
needing
to
go
through
everything,
cleveland
street
closure
for
the
400
and
500
block.
Okay,.
B
So
I
I
had
some
attention
on
doing
something
in
the
interim
to
make
the
mall
or
whatever
we're
going
to
call
it.
The
cleveland
street
dining
area
cleveland
street
mall,
whatever
it
is,
pick
some
attractive
name
for
it
and
number
one
put
something
attractive
along
fort
harrison
where,
where
it
passes,
you
know
where
the
where
the
traffic
signs
are
now
either
by
half
a
dozen.
You
know
two
foot
high
planters
and
put
some
flowers
in
them,
or
you
know
something
just
bushes
or
a
hedge,
as
I
mentioned
about
earlier.
This
is
our
hedge
fund.
B
We
put
something
green
or
colorful
flowers
or
plants,
that's
attractive.
That
doesn't
look
like
there's
a
construction
project
in
progress,
yeah,
okay,
because
that's
what
it
looks
like
right
now,
the
the
second
part
of
that
thing
would
be
as
people
are
driving
by
there's
all
this
traffic
driving
by
that
we're
not
taking
advantage
of
by
promoting
to
them
that
there
is
something
on
that
block.
B
B
B
G
Sort
of
a
very
touristy
but
small
town
of
35
36
000
in
oregon-
I
don't
know
who
was
funding
it.
Maybe
the
downtown
stores
did
because
then
the
whole
section
in
downtown.
There
are
these
hanging
plants
and
I
hired
a
company
who
put
the
flowers
there
and
they
watered
it,
and
it
was
excellent
and
nine
months
out
of
the
year.
Those
planters
were
hanging,
so
I
don't
know
what
are
the
permits
are
involved
with
this,
I'm
being
soluble.
G
Something
that
maybe
downtown
devon
board
may
be
willing
to
fund
a
portion
along
with
the
businesses
that
that
enhances,
and
maybe
we
could
have
a
hangar,
a
little
bit
of
a
banner
that
did
promoting
the
district
or
come
to
restaurants
or
just
as
something
to
hang
with
it.
So
yeah
that
can
be
done.
That's
a.
B
Good
idea,
so
thinking
of
it
as
a
cheap
businessman,
by
the
time
it
becomes
a
government
project
that
the
price
will
multiply
but
starting
out,
I
would
think
if
you,
if
you
bought
a
row
of
planters
and
put
and
went
to
lowe's
or
home
depot
or
to
a
nursery
and
got
a
bunch
of
plants
and
put
them
in
there
and
rigged
up
one
of
those
automatic
irrigation
lines.
You
know
that
plastic.
B
B
A
A
So
the
one
of
the
big
challenges
with
this
indefinite
closure
is,
it
is
still
a
public
street
and
it
will
remain
a
public
street,
and
so
it
still
carries
with
it
all
the
rights
and
responsibilities
of
a
public
street
versus
it
being
someone's
private
driveway.
Where
you
can
do
something
like
a
planter,
you
know
with
a
hose,
so
I
mean
I
think,
what
you're
seeing
now
is
the
most
not
the
most
but
the
best
temporary
solution,
the
cleanest.
A
You
know,
non-crazy.
Looking
solution,
the
city
engineering
department
could
come
up
with
in
a
short
time.
What
you're
going
to
see
next
is
something
that
looks
even
better
and
the
cra
staff
eric
has
taken
on
getting
a
landscaping
contractor.
That's
who
put
the
poinsettias
in
during
the
holidays
and
he's
working
on,
quotes
right
now
for
the
next
two
seasons,
while
parks
and
rec
figures
out
what
they
have
staffing
to
maintain
and
manage.
So
so
we
are
filling
in
the
gaps
there
right
now
to
make
sure
that
all
the
landscaping
is
getting
refreshed
and
maintained.
A
While
again
other
staffing
solutions
are
being
figured
out
for
what
the
the
longer
term
plan
is.
So
I
I
agree,
I
mean
we
see
the
same
things
you
see
we're
not
blind.
We
don't
have
poor
taste,
you
know
like
it
can
all
look
better.
It
should
look
better,
and
I
appreciate
this
board.
You
know
stepping
up
and
offering
to
help
in
that
way,
because
that
I
think
has
been
one
of
the
challenges:
is
who's
really
going
to
own
right?
A
You
know
I'll
believe
it
when
I
see
it,
but
we
might
be
at
a
point
where
we
say
we
just
have
to
do
temporary
signage
anyway,
like
we
can't
wait
on
wayfinding
anymore,
we
might
need
to
do
something
else,
good,
as
it's
coming
very.
B
Dining
behind
the
barrier-
and
the
second
thing
that
I
would
say
is
your
suggestion
about
in
portland
how
they
have
flowers
and
stuff.
I
see
that
in
a
lot
of
northern
cities
where,
in
in
small
villages
and
stuff
there's
there's
really
colorful
plants
and
flowers
and
stuff,
I
don't
know
that
that
stuff
will
survive
in
florida.
I've
never
seen
that
in
florida.
That
might
be
a
problem
just
from
just
the
climate
may
not
allow
that.
B
G
B
But
I
think
the
ddb
and
I'm
just
floating
this
is
an
idea.
It
might
be
willing
to
pay
for
a
beautification
project
to
put
hanging
plants
on
the
pole
so
long.
The
two
blocks
there
yeah
okay.
So
that's
an
idea.
Okay,
now
my
last
idea
and
then
we'll
call
our
quits
howard
ran
a
program
recently
with
the
holiday
vouchers
for
the
restaurants
and
businesses
howard.
Can
you
give
us
a
quick
like
just
a
minute
on
what
the
results
of
that
were
and
how
successful
or
unsuccessful
it
was.
B
F
F
We
had
a
total
of
2500
vouchers
that
were
available
and,
like
paris
was
saying
it
was
a
10
off.
It
was
a
voucher
for
10
towards
your
overall
purchase
of
15
or
more
so
that
way.
F
Excuse
me
the
businesses
will
have
a
minimum
threshold
of
what
the
individual
would
spend
when
they
come
into
their
restaurant,
and
this
wasn't
just
restaurants.
It
was
retail
businesses.
We
had
also
customer
service
businesses
in
terms
of
senior
bubbles
in
the
gateway
race
athletic.
F
The
amaco
on
martin
luther
king
also
participated,
so
it
was
a
mirage
of
businesses
that
were
involved
with
that.
We
had
997
vouchers
that
were
downloaded
that
were
of
the
2500
that
was
available,
and
this
was
for
a
limited
time.
It
went
from
december
1st
through
the
31st
and
then
with
that
the
businesses
had
until
january
31st
to
submit
their
expenses
for
reimbursement
of
the
24
businesses
that
participated.
F
I've
had
a
total
of
eight
businesses
currently
submit
their
expenditures
by
the
31st.
I
still
send
emails
out
on
monday
to
the
ones
that
had
not
submitted
their
expenses,
so
I'm
waiting
for
those
to
come
back
in
because
we
do
want
to
honor
our
commitment
in
terms
of
funding
money
back
to
the
businesses
that
participated
and
of
that
for
some
of
the
earlier
businesses
that
submitted
their
vouchers
and
for
reimbursement.
F
We've
have
already
paid
about
581
dollars
to
those
witnesses
if
they
submitted
their
expenses
prior
to
the
31st
and
paris
was
one
of
those
businesses
to
participate,
so
you
should
either
have
already
gotten
it
or
have
the
check
coming
back
to
one
stop.
F
Yes,
but
overall
I
feel
like
it
was
a
successful
program.
It
was
a
marketing
program
and
once
the
program
concluded,
we
were
sharing
that
information
with
all
the
businesses
that
participated
in
terms
of
the
individuals
that
actually
signed
up
for
the
program.
So
we
will
give
that
information
back
to
the
businesses,
so
then
they
can
market
directly
to
them.
So
this.
B
F
So
much
no
once
I
mean
we
use
the
online
platform
and
once
that
was
set
up,
it
was
just
a
matter
of
directing
people
to
it
and
for
them
to
sign
up
for
it.
It
was
it
was
over
the
holidays.
I
mean
we
were
competing
with
everybody
trying
to
be
out
and
shopping
and
doing
things
like
that.
F
It
was
a
similar
remnants
to
what
we
did
for
the
dining
downtown
program
that
was
hugely
successful
in
2020
2010,
yeah
august
2020.
So
yes,
okay,
so,
but
as
far
as
like
the
heavy
lift,
it
wasn't
that
difficult.
But
I
was
just
like
then,
like
I
said,
just
a
matter
of
setting
up
the
platform
and
then
having
people
be
able
to
access
and
then
be
able
to
communicate,
and
let
people
know
that
it
was
available
to
them
for
the
holiday
season.
A
A
So
if
all
2500
people
wanted
to
go
to
one
stop
shop,
they
could
right
and
they
didn't
necessarily
have
to
go
to
other
businesses,
so
that
reduced
the
staff
they
didn't,
they
that
reduced
the
staff
burden,
but
we
also
had
less
control
over
where
to
direct
people
right
to
use
the
vouchers.
So
it's
a
pretty
flexible
programmer
idea
that
the
coupon
voucher,
maybe.
B
I
thought
it
was
a
good
idea,
but
I'm
just
bringing
this
up,
maybe
next
year,
we'll
talk
about
this
later
in
the
year
right
now.
The
only
reason
I
brought
it
up
was
to
find
out
number
one
that
it's
a
marketing
idea
that
was
done
by
the
cra
and
number
two.
I
wanted
to
find
out
how
burdensome
it
was
to
run
because
I've
been
mulling
it
over
for
the
past
month
trying
to
come
up
with
an
idea
that
the
ddb
can
do
that
fulfills.
Several
goals
of
mine
number.
B
To
be
administratively
doable
number
two
I'd
like
it
to
be
a
marketing.
We
keep
talking
about
marketing
and
promoting
something.
I
want
it
to
be
simple
and
I
want
to
have
existing
businesses,
not
just
the
ones
we
always
support
like
restaurants
and
some
retail.
I
want
any
business,
that's
in
our
district,
any
taxpayer
in
our
district
really
to
be
able
to
benefit
from
the
program
or
participate
in
it
and
sort
of
broaden
what
we
do
to
to
include
everybody.
B
B
You
give
us
two
pieces
of
information
at
the
end
of
the
month.
You
give
us
the
the
invoice
and
we'll
reimburse
you
for
half
of
it
and
number
two.
You
tell
us
what
your
clicks
or
the
first
week
and
what
your
clicks
were
at
the
end
of
the
fourth
week,
so
that
we
have
some
measure
of
knowing
as
an
entity,
that's
funding
it
is
it
doing
any
good?
Is
it
actually
resulting
in
it.
B
O
B
Two
different
goals:
one
of
our
goals
historically,
has
been
to
bring
people
downtown
here.
I'm
trying
to
do
something
a
bit
different
and
say
we're
trying
to
help
people
downtown
prosper,
and
we
don't
care
it's
nice
if
it
brings
people
downtown.
That
would
be
great,
but
as
long
as
they're
doing
better,
why
not
support
them?
We're
the
downtown
development
board?
B
B
B
Anybody
that
did
it
the
first
month
can
also
apply
again,
but
they
would
be
at
the
bottom
of
the
list
after
people
that
are
trying
it
for
the
first
time
and
then
the
third
month,
people
that
got
paid
the
first
and
second
month
could
still
apply,
but
they
would
be,
they
would
have
a
lower
preference
than
people
that
were
just
trying
it
out
and
for
twenty
thousand
dollars
we
could
have.
You
know
50
or
100
marketing
campaigns
going
on
downtown.
A
I
mean
we've
considered
so
on
to
the
you
know:
marketing
it's
like
ocean
sustainability,
it's
a
big
topic.
So
in
a
couple
trunks
we're
still
working
with
bandwagon,
I
will
have
they
completed
their
survey.
The
way
that
they
presented
the
results
is
an
all
immediately
understandable,
violated
person.
So
I'm
I'm
meeting
with
them
to
go
through
that.
To
make
sure
I
can
explain
the
sentiment,
analysis
and
other
things
to
everyone
else.
A
I
will
have
their
draft
plan
by
this
friday
that
is
going
to
hone
in
on
what
are
those
big
messages
and
strategies
for
promoting
downtown
as
a
whole
right?
Why
would
people
come
here?
Where
do
we
fit
in?
Where
is
our
market
now
and
they
have
a
statistically
significant
survey
that
they
conducted
along
with
all
the
stakeholder
interviews
for
how
we're
perceived
now
and
what
our
assets
and
strengths
are.
So
that's
that's
more
of
the
bigger
picture.
Then
we
looked
at
you
know.
A
What
kind
of
technical
assistance
for
marketing
would
would
make
sense
and
do
we
as
the
cra
or
the
ddb,
do
we
hire
a
marketing
consultant
and
say:
okay,
business?
You
can
have
you
know
six
hours
of
this
social
media
specialist
to
use
on
your
business
every
month
or
for
whatever
you
need.
Maybe
you
need
someone
to
get
started
and
those
resources
already
exist
in
various
forms.
People
may
not
know
about
them,
you
know,
but
this
is
kind
of
a
take
on
that
which
you
know
what
I
would
say
is
like.
A
I
think
this
could
work.
We
probably
do
need
to
talk
with
our
businesses.
I
mean.
Obviously
we
got
small
businesses
owner
here,
but
talk
to
more
of
them
to
say.
Well,
what
really
do
you
need,
because
what
we
found
is
sometimes
it's
I
don't
understand.
Sometimes
it's
I
don't
have
money.
Sometimes
it's!
I
just
don't
have
a
person
hired
to
do
that.
So,
even
if
I
get
the
money
for
one
month,
I
I
don't
have
a
person
to
make
month
two
and
three
and
four
happen
to
keep
it
going.
A
So
what
does
a
program
look
like,
then,
to
keep
it
going,
which
then
leads
back
to
well,
then,
who
conducts
marketing
campaigns
for
the
area
for
the
business
overall,
which
that
could
be
different
people
right?
That
could
be
cra.
That
could
be
ddb
that
could
be
amplify
and
what
do
those
marketing
campaigns
look
like
and
what
are
they
about
right
now?
We
do.
I
don't
know
if
you
remember
from
rosemary's
presentations,
we
do
a
lot
of
paid
media,
83
degrees.
A
Tampa
bay
is
awesome,
u
nation,
and
we
bring
them
in
at
different
times
for
different
events.
You
know
for
the
vouchers
for
holiday,
stuff,
different
seasons
and
they
all
have
varying.
You
know
degrees
of
success,
but
that
stuff
does
have
to
happen
all
the
time
and
this
kind
of
leads
into
the
special
events
conversation
where
you
have
to
have
content
and
right
now,
if
we
don't
generate
the
content,
we
being
the
cra
or
the
merchants
association,
there
is
no
content.
A
If
it's
not,
the
clyde
butcher
exhibit
if
it's
not
a
special
event,
there's
only
so
many
times,
you
can
say:
hey
four
places
have
tacos
right
and
come
down
for
taco
tuesday,
and
then
it's
little
wheel.
We
all
know
where
those
places
are
and
we've
heard
about
it
a
lot
of
times
and
our
restaurants
are
great.
You
know,
but
that
that's
not
going
to
be
enough.
As
we've
talked
about,
we
have
to
have
more
entertainment
options,
so
it
it
is
all
kind
of
you
know
fitting
fitting
together.
A
You
know
those
different
pieces
of
creating
the
content
and
who's
pushing
the
content.
But
I
we
absolutely
can
you
know
work
with
this
idea
and
structure
a
conversation
for
you
guys
to
hear
directly
from
some
business
owners
about
what
would
be
helpful
to
them,
or
maybe
also
from
people
who
provide
those
kind
of
services.
B
Right,
maybe
your
idea
that
a
lot
of
people
that
aren't
familiar
with
how
to
do
this,
probably
will
ask
for
or
could
you
use
some
assistance
in
developing
a
an
online
social
media
campaign
because
they
don't
know
how
to
do
it
right?
So
maybe
we
would
want
to.
If
we
did,
this
we'd
have
a
pilot
for
three
months
and
see
you
know,
allocate
this
amount
of
money
to
it
and
maybe
beside
it
have
another
thing
that
would
allocate
a
certain
amount
of
consulting
or
expertise
to
the
people
that
wanted
to
participate.
B
And
then,
if,
if
after
three
months,
we
saw
that
you
know
this
generated
a
lot
of
activity
or
a
lot
of
whatever.
Then
we
say
well,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
limited
to
7
500..
If
we
spent
100
000
a
year
on
it.
If
it
was
really
doing
something,
then
we
might
say
yeah,
we
want
to
put
a
hundred
thousand
a
year
into
it.
B
But
if
it's
just
it's
going
to
bring
people
in,
for
you
know
like
to
a
concert
and
then
they're
never
going
to
come
back,
but
we
spent
30
thousand
dollars
doing
that
and
where
are
they?
They
didn't
come
back
so
it
could
be
cost
effective.
We
just
don't
know
that's
why
my
my
program
has
number
one:
it's
simple
number
two:
they
provide
us
some
feedback
on.
They
want
to
get
paid,
they
give
us
an
invoice
and
they
give
us
what
their
clicks
were
at
the
beginning
and
what
their
clicks
were
at
the
end.
B
The
third
thing
is
just
to
verify
that
the
you
know
the
invoice
has
a
downtown
address,
that's
in
our
district
to
make
them
qualify
and
that
it's
simple
to
maintain
easy
to
execute
and
it
could
take
off
and
become
something
anyway.
Anybody
else
have
any
comments
about
them:
okay,
okay,
thank
you!
It's
6,
53!
So
we're
we're
dragging
on
so
I
will
wrap
up
at
this
point.
N
So
the
two
main
updates,
the
two
main
items
that
I've
been
focusing
on-
has
been
this
theoretical
breaking
bread
event
right
where
you
get
all
the
stakeholders
to
talk
about
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
issues
in
downtown
clearwater,
that's
been
basically
in
this
theoretical
hole
during
coven
for
all
of
copen.
N
N
But
that's
we're
currently
working
on
trying
to
find
someone
to
come
in
and
set
a
date
for
that
to
occur.
So
any
other
ideas
folks
have.
We
would
love
to
have
do
that
I'll
continue
to
have
conversations
with
nonprofits
in
groups
in
the
area
to
suggest
they
come
in
for
grants,
since
we've
had
some
success
already,
but
we'll
continue
to
do
that.
A
Okay,
now
that's
actually
me
too.
Oh,
yes!
So
I'm
I'm
sorry!
I
wasn't
at
the
last
meeting
and
it
seemed
like
there
was
some
confusion
around
the
downtown
coordination
committee
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
it's
never
staff's
intention
or
role
to
be
telling
you
what
to
do
or
removing
you
from
things
from
the
last
several
meetings
that
we
had.
I
was
unclear
as
to
how
the
board
wanted
to
move
forward
and
participating
with
the
other
groups
in
downtown.
A
A
But
again
we
didn't
want
to
assume
that
right,
so
we
have
to
make
a
recommendation
or
make
a
ask
to
know
where
you
are
so
we're
still,
and
so
I
believe,
chairman
that
you
had
requested
some
information
about
the
cost
of
having
meetings
which
I
have
here
so
essentially
a
one
hour
meeting
is
300
in
direct
cost
for
your
attorney
to
have
minutes
taken
and
to
advertise
and
then,
of
course,
there's
various
other
levels
of
staff
that
ebb
and
flow
depending
on.
A
If
it's
being
broadcast
or
not
so
that's
for
an
hour
and
that's
not
an
extraordinary
amount
of
money,
but
right
now,
our
current
agreement
with
you
all
anticipates
that
we're
going
to
have
13
or
14
meetings
a
year
right.
That's
usually
like
a
monthly
meeting,
plus
extra
special
hearing
for
the
budget,
and
maybe
one
other
community
meeting
or
so
so.
A
If
you
wanted
to
go
down
the
path
which
we
certainly
can
of
having
more
meetings,
then
we'll
just
have
to
talk
about
the
calendar
and
and
how
to
adjust
that
I
have
hired
another
staff
person.
Thankfully,
an
assistant
director
and
a
lot
of
the
projects
that
you
talked
about.
These
are
things
the
cra
wants
to
work
on
too
we
haven't
been
able
to
get
to,
but
now
I
mean
this
is
why
we've
augmented
staff
to
start
working
on
those.
A
So
I
with
the
downtown
coordination,
what
we've
learned
over
the
past
year
of
this
effort,
which
really
started
with
the
cra
no
good
deed,
goes
unpunished.
Trying
to
be
helpful,
is
you
know
we
would
like
to
develop
a
grant
program
to
help
these
different
organizations
build
their
capacity.
You
all
have
a
professional
staff,
you
have
us
right
amplify
clearwater,
they
have
a
professional
staff
and
a
large
budget.
The
dc,
the
merchants
association
and
the
clearwater
downtown
partnership
do
not
and
other
groups
we
deal
with
whether
it
be
the
historical
society.
A
So
with
that,
then
the
mayor
suggested
that
there
would
be
a
summit
and
then
a
whole
lot
of
other
things
happen.
But
what
we
finally
came
to
is
everybody
is
very
busy
everyone's
very
focused
on
their
mission,
and
they
now
understand
there
is
a
shared
calendar
at
downtown
clearwater.com,
but
you
know,
but
beyond
that
they
really
kind
of
want
to
keep
doing
the
things
that
they're
doing
so
with
that
from
a
cra
perspective,
we
think
the
best
thing
we
can
do
is
as
staff
host
quarterly
meetings,
where
everyone
will
have
an
opportunity.
A
With
that
you
know,
I
turn
it
back
to
you
guys,
and
you
know
we
are
happy
to
do
whatever
you
would
like
us
to
do
with
our
alphabet
soup
of
organizations
in
downtown.
That
could
look
like
you
just
attending
on
your
own
accord.
The
cra
quarterly
meetings
that
could
look
like
you
set
aside
one
month
in
the
year
to
convene
that
could
look
like
it'll,
look
like
a
lot
of
different
things.
So
it's
really
just
how
do
you
want
to
be
involved
or
not
formally.
B
A
B
G
K
If
two
of
you
happen
to
go
that
doesn't
necessarily
turn
it
into
a
public
meeting.
Don't
talk
to
each
other,
don't
dis
about
them!
Talk
about
your
next
lunch
date!
That's
fine!
But
don't
talk
about
downtown
stuff
to
each
other,
don't
get
into
any
kind
of
discussion
across
a
room
using
other
people
as
your
conduit
that
doesn't
stop
you
from
participating
you
just
if
you're
going
to
do
that
and
two
of
you
are
going
to
go
together.
K
B
K
K
I
mean
you
guys
are:
there
are
public?
Well,
it
depends
on
the
size
of
the
meeting.
If
you
are,
if
there
are
only
three
people
there
and
you're
two
of
them,
it
looks
a
little
hinky.
All
right,
y'all
are
there
to
meet
with
each
other
okay.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
factors
that
go
into
whether
or
not
you're
crossing
a
line,
and
you
guys
don't
want
me
to
go
into
that
hour's
speech
right
now.
No.
K
Don't
let
her
do
it
so
the
answer
is,
it
depends
and
if
you
tell
me
the
facts
of
the
situation,
I
can
answer
you,
okay,
but
I
can't
just
do
this
amorphous
hypothetical,
so
yeah
you
can
show
up
at
meetings.
Two
of
you
can
show
up
at
meetings.
You
can
participate
in
meetings,
but
there
are
rules
and
guidelines
you
need
to
look
at
and
how
public
is
the
meeting?
There's
a
lot
that
goes
into
it.
So
talk
to
me.
First,
that's
what
I'm
here
for.
H
H
A
No,
I
mean
it
was
never
intended
for
the
ddb
to
host
these
meetings
in
the
in
the
way
that
it
ended
up
happening,
because
that
really
wasn't
your
I
mean,
I
think
everything
just
got
confused
and
part
of
it
was
because
I
had
a
baby
and
then
you
know,
people
rosemary
was
stepping
in
and
filling
in,
and
then
our
effort
to
say,
okay
groups,
you
know
how
what
would
you
like
to
be
on
the
agenda?
A
A
K
B
A
A
All
right
I'll
be
quick.
Howard
gave
me
the
voucher
update
again
we
will
have
a
big
ol
meeting
on
the
morning
of
friday
february
11th
on
the
cleveland
street
closure,
so
we've
sent
out,
invites
to
property
owners
and
tenants
on
the
400
and
500
block,
because
it'll
be
a
lot
of
issues
that
specifically
impact
them.
A
I
gave
you
the
update
on
the
firm
bandwagon
and
the
marketing
that
will
have
more
events
more
information
there.
Also.
So
you
know
we
are
working
with
special
events
to
try
to
figure
out
a
calendar
for
this
year
and
if
we
need
to
put
out
an
rfp
for
say
a
producer
right
that
will
come
in
and
do
you
know
six
or
eight
large
events
or
medium-sized
events
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
kind
of
filling
in
the
gaps
and
something
is,
is
always
going
on.
A
What
else
the
infographic
that
we've
been
working
on
will
be
mailed
out
in
late
february
or
early
march,
and
we'll
make
sure
to
get
a
copy
to
you
guys
before
we
send
that
out
about
the
ddb
and
last
but
not
least,
ann
lopez
is
two
months
away
from
having
her
baby.
So
you
probably
won't
see
her
at
a
meeting
again,
just
because
we're
trying
to
keep
her,
you
know
away
from
germs,
but
she's
doing
well
and
everything's
going
well,
but
so
you'll
just
notice
that
I
do
want
to
say
really
truly.
A
B
B
O
O
I've
started
a
number
of
businesses
and
it
normally
never
goes
how
you
think
it's
going
to
go
right
out
of
the
gate,
and
so
the
idea
from
the
mayor
I
think,
was
brilliant
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
solution
and
thanks
for
doing
all
that
and
then
my
last
comment
is,
I
don't
know
if
you
know,
but
one
of
our
downtown
businesses,
the
vape
shop,
guys,
barry
and
drew,
have
expanded
so
they've
taken
over
that.
Unfortunately,
it's
not
in
our
corridor,
but
it's
close.
O
It's
on
myrtle
just
past
the
tracks
they
took
over
that
old,
pawn
shop
and
they've
now
got
a
x
throwing
bar
what
could
go
wrong
drinking
and
x,
throwing
I
don't
know
and
it's
open
and
it's
a
lot
of
fun.
So
it's
their
second
one
and
it's
it's
just
drive
by
there,
it's
very
alive.
So
if
you're
feeling
up
to
it,
shut
up.
D
N
I
thank
you
very
much
for
bringing
up
this
idea
and
kind
of
putting
everyone
to
task.
I
thought
that
was
very
helpful
when
I'm
thinking
between
now
and
the
next
meeting
about
the
ideas
we
discussed,
one
of
the
big
things
for
me
is
practicability.
Unless
we're
going
to
be
out
there
ourselves
boots
on
the
ground,
we
need
to
make
sure
what
we're
kind
of
prioritizing
is
feasible
for
the
cra
or
whoever
we're
working
with
in
order
to
accomplish
it.
J
It
was
a
great
meeting,
so
thank
you
so
much
for
that.
I
want.
I
have
two
things.
I
want
to
reiterate
the
mayor's
point.
At
the
end
of
the
last
meeting
that
property
owners
downtown
have
got
to
offer
more
than
a
month-to-month
lease
for
us
to
get
business
in
them.
So
for
those
of
you
who
know
property
owners,
whether
you're,
a
scientologist
or
not,
find
out
from
them.
J
Why
they're
not
giving
a
year
lease
to
people
to
get
businesses
open,
and
you
know
if
there's
a
reason
why
they're
they're
refusing
to
do
that
find
out?
Why
and
let
us
know
that
would
be
a
huge
help.
The
other
thing
is
not
specifically
about
downtown,
but
it
was
pointed
out
to
me
by
robin
rinberger
that
we've
had
a
record-breaking
year
for
the
clearwater
high
school
football
team,
and
earlier
this
afternoon,
12
of
the
graduating
members
of
the
team
actually
signed
the
full
scholarships.
J
B
And
I
would
like
to
thank
everybody
for
your
ideas
tonight
and
your
participation
and
I
will
cut
it
short
right
there
at
7
11
in
the
evening.
This
meeting
is
adjourned.