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A
A
B
All
right,
today's
meeting
of
the
environmental
advisory
board
is
called
to
order
on
October
16th
welcome
everyone.
The
members
of
the
environmentally
board
were
appointed
by
the
City
Council
we
serve
voluntarily,
and
the
board's
objective
is
to
provide
Susan
insights
of
the
City
Council
and
staff
on
environmental
activities
within
and
affecting
the
city
of
Clearwater.
Agendas
of
today's
meeting
are
on
the
wall
at
the
entrance
to
the
city
council
chambers.
Please
remember
to
turn
off
your
cell
phones
and
electronic
devices
to
ensure
a
complete
record
of
the
board's
actions.
D
C
E
E
B
B
Minutes
are
approved
citizens
to
be
heard
about
items
that
are
not
on
the
agenda.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
about
anything
that
is
not
on
the
agenda?
Please
come
forward
and
state
your
name
for
the
clerk.
You
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak
and
about
anything.
That's
not
on
today's
agenda.
There's
no
dialogue
between
people
speaking
and
the
board
member
and
from
the
podium
and
the
board
members
until
you've
completed
your
comments.
Thank
you.
F
I
am
here
because
I'm
a
candidate
for
mayor
and
I'm,
a
former
member
of
this
group,
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
see
happen
in
Clearwater,
is
for
the
environment
advisory
board
to
have
veto
power
over
cdb
development
decisions,
because
I
don't
think,
there's
been
nearly
enough
consideration
of
environmental
impacts
when
the
cities
made
decisions
to
allow
development
or
change
zoning
for
to
allow
for
greater
density.
So
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
and
find
out
from
you.
E
F
B
So
I
think
that's
one
of
those
issues
that
there
are
other
people
that
are
paid
that
work
at
the
city.
That
know
the
answers
to
that.
That
may
not
be
here
today
that
could
provide
those
answers.
I
know
future
meeting
or
we
can
get
your
email
address
and
try
to
forward
you
information
as
we
get
it
available
as
well.
Certainly.
A
C
You
to
have
a
specific
project
and
there's
a
proposal.
It's
usually
a
scoping
analysis
of
you
know
what
would
be
the
scope
of
environmental
study
for
a
particular
project
and
out
of
you
know
a
preliminary
or
you
know,
a
design,
that's
at
a
conceptual
stage,
a
scoping
document
and
so
that
the
whoever
the
project
proponent
is
can
then
incorporate
their
studies
as
they
move
forward
through
the
design
process
to
address
the
environmental
issues.
That
would
be
pertinent
to
that
particular
project.
F
D
F
B
Right,
yes,
please.
G
Two
things
that
stuck
out
to
me
one
is
that
one
of
the
positions
they
look
to
be
there
to
essentially
take
over
for
the
consulting
company.
I'll
call
them
synergistic
in
the
millions
of
dollars
that
they've
helped
them
save
on
an
annual
basis
on
their
energy.
To
essentially
take
over
that
role
from
them
as
their
contract
is
ending
in
March
and
I.
G
Believe
that's
one
of
the
types
of
partnering
that
the
city
of
Clearwater
sustainability
cord
is
beginning
to
look
at,
which
is
great,
and
then
what
was
the
second
part
there
of
the
important
piece
it's
not
just
considered
or
concentrated
on
on
energy.
It's
it's
a
lot
broader
than
that
and
brings
a
lot
of
opportunity.
Oh.
The
second
part
was
really
on
collaboration
across
the
county
is
what
the
assistant
superintendent
really
stressed.
G
That
has
already
begun.
If
you
didn't
know
ready
for
100
cities
in
particular,
or
collaborating
with
one
another
that
includes
safety,
Harbor
Largo
Dunedin
in
some
cities
like
clear
water
that
have
sustainability
could
coordinators
are
collaborating
with
one
another
as
brought
together,
I'll
point
to
the
safety
harbor
city
manager.
That
has
helped
initiate
that
to
make
that
happen
and
including
the
county
and
the
Tampa
Bay
resiliency
coalition
sustainability
coordinator
as
well
so
I've
wanted
to
bring
that
to
your
attention.
G
B
B
H
Hello,
I
just
wanted
to
extend
a
formal
invitation
to
everybody
in
this
room
to
come
to
our
first
sustainability
conference
in
Clearwater
this
Saturday,
the
title
is:
building
better
neighborhoods
through
sustainability
and
a
toolkit
for
positive
change
and
it's
being
co-sponsored
co-sponsored
by
the
city
of
Clearwater,
the
Clearwater
neighborhood
Coalition
and
the
Sun
Coast
Sierra,
Club
and
I'm
on
the
planning
committee.
So
I
can
tell
you
that
if
this
is
very
exciting
for
us,
this
is
going
to
be
a
great
conference.
We've
got
three
fabulous
speakers.
They
have
a
lot
of
experience
in
their
field.
H
One
is
Brian
Beckman,
but
I
don't
have
you
ever
heard.
Brian
speak,
but
you
know
it's
you're
in
for
a
treat.
The
emphasis
is
going
to
be
on
local
resources
and
practical
tips.
So
we
have
like
eight
organizations
that
are
coming
they're.
All
local
they're
gonna
be
having
tables
with
information
for
folks
and
if
we
would
have
some
interactive
exercises
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
fun,
so
I
hope
that
you're
planning
on
coming
tell
everybody.
You
know,
and
it's
any
questions
about
it.
Yes,
I'm!
B
Glen
and
thank
you
for
organizing
it
and
helping
put
it
together,
I
hope
that
it's
something
that
yeah
can
wecan
continue
to
see
some
things
like
these.
This
in
the
future
perhaps
had
other
rec
centers
or
you
know,
however,
revolving
you
know
time
frame
or,
however,
it
may
be,
but
exactly
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
any
other
questions.
Okay,
all
right
and
any
other
speakers
make
sure
before
we
move
on
this
time,
all
right.
Moving
on
new
business
items,
presentation
of
cress
lake
park
improvements,
we
welcome
Kevin,
Dunbar
and
Matt
Anderson.
I
Daphne
Bourdon
Matthew,
Anderson,
landscape
manager,
Parks
and
Recreation
Department
oversee
their
forestry
department,
I'm
also
a
certified
arborist.
You
know
actually
did
tree
inventory
for
crest
late
part
for
the
project.
It's
a
requirement
for
for
every
project
to
have
an
inventory
done
and
what
we're
doing
during
an
inventory
is
assessing
condition
rating
of
each
tree
in
the
park
and
that
encompasses
the
overall
health
structure
root
systems.
Every
aspect
of
the
tree
has
looked
at
during
that
inventory
process.
So
I
personally
looked
at
each
tree,
each
tree
was
assigned
to
tag.
I
There
was
646
total
trees
in
the
park
of
those
trees.
142
of
them
were
found
to
have
a
condition
rating
lower
than
a
3.
The
city's
Community
Development
code
lists
a
3.0
or
higher
tree
as
a
viable
tree
worth.
Preservation
and
below
a
3
is
considered
hazardous.
The
race
killed
zero,
zero
being
a
dead
tree,
6
being
a
specimen.
So
the
condition
where
rating
was
assessed
on
each
tree.
We
fixed
an
aluminum
tag
to
it,
which
coincided
with
the
site
plan.
I
Essentially,
that
allowed
anybody
that
wanted
to
be
able
to
take
that
site
plan
that
inventory,
go
and
identify
the
trees
and
the
different
issues
that
each
tree
had
of
the
155
total
trees
that
will
eventually
be
removed.
142
of
them
have
already
been
removed.
That
was
due
to
poor
condition
rating,
so
essentially,
13
trees
will
need
to
come
out
due
to
being
in
the
way
of
structures
and
they
will
not
be
removed
until
the
project
starts,
but
the
reason
that
142
were
removed
was
due
to
poor
condition
rating.
I
Essentially,
when
the
tree
receives
that
rating-
and
we
know
about
it,
we
don't
have
a
choice
but
to
remove
it
due
to
liability
not
to
the
city,
but
also
to
protect
our
residents,
people
that
patronize
the
park.
So
that's
to
give
you
a
little
background.
There's
been
a
lot
of
things
stirring
with
regards
to
the
trim,
removal,
155
keeps
getting
thrown
out
and
that's
true.
It
will
eventually
be
155.
It
was
142.
Initially,
those
trees
have
been
removed,
essentially
for
safety
purposes,
for
our
residents
I,
don't.
I
We
will
be
putting
over
200
trees
back
in
the
park
at
the
completion
of
the
project,
we're
shooting
to
reinstall
approximately
83
species.
Obviously
that
can't
be
completely
nailed
down
at
this
point
because
of
availability
due
to
the
fact
that
will
be
next
fall
into
early
winter
before
the
replacements
are
installed.
So
it's
just
kind
of
hard
to
know
exactly
what
the
market
will
bear
for
us
to
be
able
to.
But
that's
that's
our
goal.
I
Essentially,
we
will
be
installing
an
arboretum
out
there
at
crest
like
using
these
species
and
what
that
will
allow
us
to
do
right
now,
when
you
get
a
tree
removal
permit
through
the
city,
if
you're
required
a
replacement
tree,
we
give
you
a
list
saying
you
need
to
put
back
a
shade
tree,
an
accent
tree.
Whatever
the
case
may
be,
this
will
give
residents
the
ability
to
go
out
and
see
what
these
species
actually
look
like.
I
Cuz,
it's
easy
to
look
at
a
book
and
say:
oh
that's
a
great-looking
tree,
but
until
you've
seen
it
and
kind
of
learn
the
characteristics
and
understand
what
that
tree
really
looks
like
or
could
really
become.
You
don't
know
until
you
plan
in
and
essentially
grow,
so
they'll
be
definitely
an
educational
component
with
that
Arboretum
to
help
residents
make
better
choices
on
tree
selection.
I
There's
also
a
hurricane
rating
system
that
has
put
up
through
the
Division
of
Forestry
and
that
will
be
added
onto
the
sign
as
well
letting
people
know
essentially
the
strength
of
that
tree
during
you
know
a
great
wind
event,
so
I
know
there's
been
some
negativity
with
it
up
front
very
little,
but
we
want
to
put
that
the
positive
outlook
on
it,
because,
really,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
safety
education
and
that's
that's
our
standpoint
on
it.
So,
yes,.
I
Hoping
to
move
six
of
those
trees
on
the
park
site,
we
say
removed
initially
because
it's
easier
to
say:
hey
we're,
gonna,
remove
these
trees
and
if
something
were
to
happen
during
the
transplant
process
that
they
died
or
simply
did
just
were
not
able
to
be
transplanted,
do
recruit
system
or
drive
stress
guys
having
to
kill
one
we're
covered.
In
that
sense,
we
don't
want
to
say,
hey
we're
gonna
transplant
I'm
gonna
not
be
able
to
be
in
that
situation
where
we
weren't
able
to
live
up
to
what
we
said.
I
I
A
A
I
Will
be
sourced
from
the
nursery,
we
have
four
degraded
standards
and
that
essentially
gives
you
a
guideline
to
select
a
healthy,
structurally
sound
tree.
To
put
back.
We
plant
minimum
grade
number
one
I,
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
greats
of
standards,
but
it's
done
through
our
department,
agriculture
and
consumer
services,
and
it's
it's
a
standard
for
the
whole
state.
That's
used.
So
essentially
we
will
purchase
these
trees
from
nurseries
and.
I
There
is
a
as
far
as
the
oak
tree
species
that
will
remove
the
more
of
it
was
Laura
Lowe's.
You
know,
Laurel
Oaks
were
heavily
planted
back
in
the
16th
70s,
you
know,
Earth
Day
was
coming
around
the
housing
boom
and
clutter
was
really
going
strong
and
developers
planted.
Laura
looks
very
heavily
because
they're
a
fast
growing
tree,
but
the
issue
of
Laura
Lopes
is:
there
are
fast
growing
tree
they're,
poor
departmentalized
of
decay,
which
means
when
you
have
to
remove
a
limb.
If
it's
not
a
small
limb.
I
They
have
a
short
lifespan
anywhere
from
40
to
60
or
60
years
would
be
one
that
was,
you
know
properly
prune
throughout
the
life
and
that's
the
thing
pruning
has
come
a
long
way
and
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
you
know:
literature
on
pruning,
back
in
the
60s
and
70s
one
of
those
things
it's
evolved.
It's
become
it's
a
very
good
science.
Now,
back
in
the
60s
and
70s,
we
had
books
put
out
by
the
forestry
department
that
showed
flush
cuts
as
proper
cuts
on
trees.
I
And
now
we
know,
if
you
do,
that,
it's
going
to
lead
to
decay
and
essentially
the
death
of
that
tree.
So
I
guess
the
circle
back
to
the
question
Laura
loops.
We
also
removed
any
invasive
species
in
the
park.
So
it
was.
There
was
some
poems
that
were
out
there,
the
new
invasive
Indian
rosewood
tree,
there's
very
few
invasives,
but
the
ones
that
were
out
there.
We
made
sure
to
remove
them
during
this
process
and
those
will
be
with
a
with
a
native.
You
know
proper
specie
for
that
location.
C
D
C
I
C
I
C
What
you
might
have,
therefore,
that
has
come
in
or
was
planted
or
came
in
from
native
growth,
but
that's
a
real
attraction
and
I
like
the
educational
focus
for
people
to
go
out
absolutely
look
at
those
trees
and
also
it's
a
learning
factor
to
determine
what
trees
grow
best
here
in
Clearwater
as
well.
So.
I
You
can
really
get
a
vibe
for
how
those
you
know,
trees,
look
and
feel
because
it,
even
though
they're
Pines,
that
all
have
different
characteristics
that
you,
unless
you
put
them
side-by-side,
you
necessarily
wouldn't
notice.
If
you
just
looked
at
it
in
a
book,
so
we're
also
gonna
be
a
fixing
al
box.
That
was
another
concern
with
the
cavities
in
the
trees
that
were
dangerous.
You
know
we're
taking
away
that
we're
gonna,
be
it's
fixing
our
boxes
to
healthy
trees
out
there.
I
A
I
I
Know
one
of
the
things
when
we
have
leftover
trees
from
our
annual
tree
giveaway.
We
try
to
go
and
utilize
those
in
places
where
you
probably
remember.
We
had
to
have
a
bunch
of
hazardous
trees
out
there
that
had
to
be
removed,
and
we
wanted
to
utilize
these
trees
to
put
in
there
and
get
that
canopy
going
and
one
thing
I
take
kind
of
double
back
to
your
question.
As
far
as
planting
younger
smaller
trees,
a
lot
of
people
like
to
see
a
big
six.
I
Eight
inch
oak
go
back
in
somewhere,
but
what
people
don't
realize
is
the
number
of
years.
Essentially
it
takes
to
establish
this
tree.
Trees
put
root
growth
out
first
before
they
push
top
growth.
So
when
you
take
a
six
inch
4
inch
even
tree
and
planet,
the
volume
of
water
it
takes
to
establish
that
tree
is
very
high
and
it's
over
a
very
long
period
of
time.
So
you
get
the
initial
pop
in
a
little
bit
of
initial
shade.
I
But
when
you
plant
a
smaller
tree,
it
puts
that
growth
in
the
roots,
which
is
a
lot
shorter
and
once
it
does
it
pushes
that
top
growth.
They
take
a
lot
less
water
a
long
time
and
if
you
plant
a
one
inch
tree
versus
a
4
inch
tree
that
one
is
trees,
gonna
outgrow
forestry
over
a
period
of
time
because
of
establishment
time.
So
with
a
lot
less
water,
which
is
also
great
because
I,
don't
water,
something
we
have
to
be
very
careful
with
I
am.
B
Having
men
here,
one
of
the
things
that
I've
asked
in
the
past-
and
maybe
you
can
answer
this
now-
that
we
have
you
the
opportunity
to
put
edible
trees,
oranges
or
citrus,
or
anything
like
that.
What's
your
take
on
that,
and
is
there
a
reason
why
that
isn't
done
or
is,
if
there's
that
something,
an
opportunity
that
can
be
done
in
places
in
the
future.
I
Well,
citrus
is
a
tricky
species.
It
is
such
a
screening.
You
know
it
affects
almost
all
the
different
species.
I
mean
we
back
when
I
was
in
planning.
We
rolled
back
the
requirement
for
a
permit
on
them
to
help
people
alleviate.
If
they
had
a
problem
citrus
tree
quicker,
you
get
that
tree
out
the
less
likelihood
it
is
to
spread
to
other
trees.
So
as
far
as
putting
a
citrus
out,
we
think
it's
a
different
race
yeah.
I
We
will
we're
gonna,
be
putting
a
lot
of
species
not
necessarily
for
the
fruit,
but
to
show
people
the
potential
for
fruit
in
their
yard,
I
mean
yeah.
We've
got,
you
know
like
Chickasaw,
plum,
there's
a
I,
don't
have
the
complete
list,
but
it's
something
I
can
maybe
send
to
Sarah.
She
could
just
brush
the
opportunity.
Look
at
it!
Thank
you
because
it's
not
just
trees.
We're
also
put
in
the
the
main
both
of
shrubs
and
things
go
back
in
will
be
like
fire
bush
for
our
hummingbirds.
B
And
I
and
I
think
this
is
kind
of
two
part
or
one
large
question
I.
Think,
like
you
said,
like
the
trees
they
needed
to
be
taken
down
and
I
think
the
replacement
plan
I
think
that
worked
out
well.
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
present
these
tree
replacement
plans
to
perhaps
this
board
before
the
trees
are
cut
down?
So
it
gives
it
an
opportunity
for
residents
to
kind
of
not
be
so
shocked
when
they
see
the
trucks
out
there,
cutting
down
the
trees
and
maybe
for
future
tree
plantings.
J
J
Everybody
gets
involved
and
also-
and
they
see
something
and
they're
surprised
for
the
for
the
first
time,
but
the
design
of
the
park
was
developed
by
the
community
in
concert
with
the
with
the
the
engineers
and
architects
that
we
used
as
well
as
the
city
staff.
So
it
was
a
three
way
process
in
terms
of
being
able
to
do
that
at
every
step
of
the
way
you
know
from
schematic
to
conceptual
to
30
percent
60
percent
90
percent.
J
J
I
think
just
to
share
too
is
that
we
are
at
90%
now
so
just
so
that
the
board
knows
we're
looking
at
ended,
January
to
early
February
to
actually
be
breaking
ground
and
starting
construction
on
the
project.
Okay,
we
have.
Our
contractor
at
risk,
is
on
board
already
so
we're
looking
at
to
get
this
moving
because,
like
I
said,
we've
been
talking
about
it
since
2013.
J
If
you
you
may
be
aware
of
the
council,
this
is
the
utilization
of
the
BP
funds
and
that's
when
Matt
talks
about
a
lot
of
the
education
components
and
things
like
that.
We
thought
it
was
an
appropriate
legacy
project
and
the
kind
of
elements
that
should
be.
You
know
it
was
just
the
BP
funds
in
our
mind,
wasn't
just
a
money
grant.
It
was.
J
How
do
we
turn
this
into
a
positive
for
the
community
based
upon
you
know
how
and
why
we
received
receive
the
funds
so
we're
looking
about
a
year
construction,
so
it'll
be
early.
2021
is
when
we
should.
We
should
have
the
new
park
launch,
but
the
entire
park
will
be
closed
down
during
construction.
That
includes
the
dog
park.
Also,
if
we
relieve
like
an
element
like
I'd
opened,
it
was
about
it
about
$250,000,
more
for
staging
and
so
we'd
rather
put
the
money
into
the
park
that
way.
So,
okay.
I
You
one
of
the
concern
add
to
that
would
be
pertinent
for
you
guys.
Information
is
currently
the
stormwater
goes
directly
into
the
pond
and
there's
actually
rain
guards
with
another
potential.
I,
don't
know
exactly
the
signage
on
that,
but
to
sort
of
explain
how
a
rain
garden
works
as
far
as
filtration
of
you
know
not
only
trash
and
debris
that
would
normally
float
in,
but
also
some
of
those
heavy
metals
and
things
that
won't
be
filtered
out
through
these
pause
before
that
water
reaches
crest
lake
is
currently
right.
Now
it
gets
strengthened.
I
B
B
K
K
So,
let's
start
out
with
asking
what
is
the
stormwater
utility
fee,
so
basically
what
it
is
city
warrants.
Basically,
you
know
all
the
legal
jargon
here
basically
tells
us
that
you
know
we
collect
this
fee
from
every
resident
to
help
pay
for
our
infrastructure
and
maintenance.
So
we
often
get
asked
you
know.
What
is
my
fee.
K
First
is
what
someone
else's
fee
is:
am
I,
paying
too
much
am
I
not
paying
enough,
which
they
never
say,
but
usually
it's
based
off
of
you
know
for
a
residential,
whether
it's
a
single
hanging,
foam
single
family,
a
duplex,
whether
it's
residential,
it's
considered,
one
eru,
which
is
an
equivalent
equivalent
residential
unit.
When
we
go
to
non-residential
such
as
commercial
industrial,
it's
based
off
of
the
impervious
square
footage
of
that
lot.
For
instance,
you
know
it's.
Eighteen
hundred
and
thirty
square
feet
per
Ivar
you!
So
that's
our
calculation.
K
So
if
you
have
an
eighteen
thousand
three
hundred
of
em
pervious.
Basically,
when
you
divide
that
out,
you
end
up
with
a
ten
year,
you
multiply
that
by
the
storm
utility
fee,
which
is
$14.80
cents
for
ER,
you
that's
your
monthly
fee.
So
that's
how
it
breaks
down
I
just
want
to
kind
of
go
back
to
what
it
is
and
how
we
get
there
and
now
we're
going
to
talk
about
what
it
actually
funds.
What
are
we
doing
with
this
money?
K
More
importantly,
so
this
fee,
basically
it
helps
it
so
many
utility
fee
funds
are
donor
maintenance.
So
we
have
42
full-time
employees
and
are
still
on
our
maintenance
department,
they're
responsible
for
our
street-sweeping.
You
know
of
265
miles
of
road
that
gets
swept
on
a
scheduled
basis,
depending
on
where
it
is
you
know,
for
on
the
beach.
Obviously,
a
lot
of
Santa
Cruz
there,
so
we're
probably
gonna
sweep
there
more
often,
then
we're
what
somewhere
in
countryside
that
doesn't
have
a
lot.
K
So
we
have
some
sort
schedule
worked
out
and
those
265
miles
are
on
any
cycle.
As
far
as
the
sweeping
stormwater
ask
that
inspection,
we
have
crews
that
go
out
and
make
sure
that
the
pipes
are
clean.
The
stormwater
system
is
functioning
as
it
should
if
we
have
residents
that
are
concerned
that
the
water
is
backing
up
in
the
street.
These
are
the
guys
that
we
call
and
they
go
out,
and
they
make
sure
that
the
system
is
clear,
there's
not
a
lawn
chair
in
there
or
something
blocking
that
pipe
restricting
flow.
K
What
they
also
do
is
you
know
we
have
how
it
falls
on
the
beach
that
are
a
lot
of
times
submerged
with
water,
because
the
tides
this
week
you
know
are,
can
are
full
minute
I'd,
it's
probably
cresting
some
of
the
sea
walls
this
week
and
we
have
barnacles
that
grow
and
that's
in
that
environment.
So
you
know
that
is
part
of
the
stormwater
maintenance
contracts
is
to
have
an
annual
cycle
of
cleaning
these
barnacles
out
of
time
out
of
these
submerged
pipes,
so
that
we
don't
have
constrictions
I.
K
H
K
To
keep
those
things
clean
to
keep
going
back
on
it
on
a
regular
basis
to
make
sure
that
they're
functioning
these
the
storm.
Remainin
screws
also
run
the
pipe
lining
project
which
essentially,
if
we
have
an
old,
corrugated
metal,
pipe
in
someone's
backyard,
and
we
have
a
drainage
easement
there.
But
everyone
has
built
fences
and
other
things
in
that
area,
and
it's
it's
more.
It's
gonna
cause
more
damage
to
go
in
there
and
tear
it
out
than
it
is
to
line
the
pipe
with
a
basically
a
poly
liner.
K
We
usually
lend
the
pipe
99%
of
the
time
we're
going
to
line
that
pipe.
So
it's
a
structural
lining,
it's
good
for
what
they
say
50
to
75
years-
and
you
know
that's
that's
another
contract
that
the
storm
I
mean
its
crew
helps
facilitate
and
they
also
do
the
under
grain
contract.
So
if
there's
a
high
water
table-
or
you
know,
if
we
use
the
airport
as
an
example,
there
are
there's
issues
with
groundwater
there
you
know
so
we
installations
to
help
draw
down
that
water.
K
If
you've
ever
seen
on
the
sidewalk,
when
you're
walking
down
the
street,
some
of
that
water
is
kind
of
seeping
across
that
sidewalk
installation
on
a
drain
in
that
case
might
help
the
situation
routing
that
water
through
a
perforated
pipe
tying
into
the
stormwater
Inlet
system,
and
it
basically
goes
blow
great.
So
they
helped
on
that
contract.
But,
most
importantly,
I
think
the
maintenance
up
rush
maintenance
operation
gives
us.
K
Our
construction
crews
can
handle
a
certain
amount
and
scope
the
size
of
a
project
once
it
gets
to
a
point
where
it's
not
feasible
for
a
crew
of
six
people
to
do
it,
then
obviously
engineering
comes
on
board
and
we
try
and
make
a
bigger
project
out
of
it
and
that's
when
the
stormwater
crew
down
at
MSB
kind
of
kicks
in.
We
have
ten
employees
on
one
intern,
six
and
engineering.
K
We
have
three
environmental
and
one
inspector
as
well
as
our
intern,
so
this
engineering
support
these
people,
which
are
paid
again
much
like
these
42
in
the
stormwater
maintenance
department
are
paid
directly
from
the
store
or
utility
fee.
So
the
funding
that
we
are
collecting
per
ERU
is
helping
fund
these
positions,
such
as
you
know,
or
engineering
support
for
land
development.
Every
time
segment
comes
in
you
know
we
have
really
two
staff
members.
We
have
a
land
resources
person,
that's
going
to
look
at
it
for
general
engineering.
K
We
also
have
a
stormwater
person
and
most
the
time,
Sarah
will
look
at
it
too,
as
an
environmental
and
kind
of
take,
a
look
at
it.
Make
conditions
make
comments,
make
sure
that
they're
doing
things
for
a
state
standard.
We
also
have
staff.
There
tends
to
be
PRC,
we
have
the
DRC
CDB.
We
have
representatives
on
staff
that
handle
the
engineering
side
of
things
which
is
looking
at
stormwater
environmental
aspects
and
that's
again
paid
for
by
this
asset
only
utility
fee.
We
also
have
right
overly
permits
that
come
in
you
know.
K
We
all
see
those
our
outside
utility
companies
going
putting
new
fiber
everywhere,
so
we
are
their
keepers
of
the
ride
away
his
engineering,
so
we
were
responsible
to
make
sure
that
those
facilities
are
going
in
the
appropriate
locations.
For
example,
on
Giroud
Road
we've
had
a
ongoing
project
there
for
a
very
long
time
and
contractors
have
been
wanting
to
install
new
fiber
down
the
south
side
of
druid
behind
the
high
school,
and
it's
not
the
best
place
for
when
they're
going
to
be
digging
and
putting
hand
holes
there.
K
If
we
are
going
to
be
digging
that
up
and
putting
a
16
inch
pipe
in
a
brand
new
storm
system,
so
talking
with
contractors
and
coordinating
things
making
sure
those
facilities
in
the
right
place.
That's
another
thing
that
this
team
is
responsible
for
again
we
have
inspection
services.
We
have
one
inspector
on
store,
more
staff.
He
basically
makes
sure
he
runs
our
stormwater
projects.
We
have
help
from
other
inspectors
too,
but
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
everything
is
is
being
built.
K
You
know
by
the
city,
projects
is
being
built
for
standard.
We
also
do
utility
inspections
for
the
private
developments
to
make
sure
that
they're
meeting
their
standards
and
once
that
building
permit
closes
out,
they
can't
close
out
with
getting
a
final
without
getting
a
final
inspection
from
one
of
our
staff
members
to
make
sure
that
the
stormwater
system
is
installed.
Her
plan,
the
Aspen's
max
what
was
actually
given
to
us
so
that
whole
process
happens.
That's
the
engineering
support
the
line.
Development
provides
the
environmental
side
sarazar
our
master
environmentalists
over
here.
K
K
We
also
have
staff
on
born
in
case.
We
need
to
do
some
environmental
testing,
you
know
say
we
have.
The
city
would
like
to
buy,
you
know,
purchase
property
and
it
was
an
old
car
lot.
You
know
obviously
we're
going
to
have
to
do
some
environmental.
You
know
level,
1
and
level
2
assessment
to
see.
Is
there
petroleum?
Is
there
nation?
You
know
if
there
is
what's
a
remediation,
when
we
did
the
Harborview,
we
did.
K
You
know
asbestos
sort
of
surveys
which
we
handled
or
helped
sub
its
bestest
survey
for
that
to
make
sure
that
you
know
when
we
took
that
building
down,
it
wasn't
harmful
risk
environmentally
recovered.
They
also
provide
development
review,
support
again
on
permits
and
CDP
all
that
kind
of
stuff
and
they
help
with
our
water
quality
environmental
projects.
That
being
said,
this
is
one
of
the
exciting
ones.
It's
kind
of
in
the
works
right
now
we're
about
to
kick
off
our
design,
Sarah's,
the
the
the
team
lead
on
this
she's
running
with
it.
K
Basically,
if
you
haven't
heard
about
us
our
Cooper's
by
our
master
plan,
it's
pretty.
You
know
we're
fortunate
enough
when,
when
that
Christian
College
went
for
sale,
that
we
were
able
to
buy
the
wetlands
and
a
little
bit,
the
upland
buy
a
Cooper's
Point,
and
what
this
project
couldn't
afford
us
to
do
is
basically
increase
the
water
quality
in
Cooper's
by
you
by
being
basically
allowing
it
to
flush
more
as
it
sits
now
that
Cooper's
bio
stagnant
has
nowhere
to
go.
K
The
old
Maceo
ditches
are
filled
in
you
know,
there's
no
cross
connections,
it's
all
cut
off.
So
it's
basically
suffocating
and
there's
not
enough
water
flowing
there
to
get
substantial
amount
of
tide
through
anywhere,
so
it
just
kind
of
sits
there
and
the
water
quality
isn't
that
great
sea
grass
has
been
dying
out.
So
this
project
alone.
With
those
minor
improvements
there
will
help
that
the
more
exciting
part
to
me
is
the
FDOT
cut
through
that's
a
possibility
like
they
did
on
the
other
side
of
the
bridge.
K
K
E
K
Other
than
that
we
have,
you
know
a
regular
summer
folks,
we
have
basically
six
plus
an
intern
that
work
directly
on
building
plan
reviews
our
developments
we
also
have.
Obviously
a
lot
of
our
job
is
responding
to
citizen
concerns.
If
someone
sees
something
or
there's
an
issue
with
a
system,
maybe
just
have
a
random
question.
You
know
a
lot
of
our
times
is
designated
to
responding
to
providing
engineering,
support
and
and
responded
to
our
citizens
concerns.
K
For
instance,
you
know
if
there's
a
subdivision,
that's
being
built
and
it's
impacting
someone
else
by
cutting
off
drainage
that
was
historically
going
one
way
we
have
to
look
at
it
and
say:
okay.
Well,
you
know:
how
can
we
help
this
situation?
You
know
who
you
know
what
it?
What
is
our?
What
is
our
role
here
and
how
we?
K
K
The
meat
and
potatoes
of
us
is
our
flood
protection,
water
quality
system,
expansion
projects
and
our
repair
projects.
So
the
meat
potatoes
of
what
we
collectively
do
as
a
group
is,
is
the
project
work
and
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
funding
source
from
the
eru
calculation
and
our
summer
utility
goes
to
fund
these
projects.
The
design
of
these
projects,
the
implementation
of
these
projects
and,
obviously
the
maintenance
once
it's
complete.
K
K
Glenoaks
I'm
sure
you
guys
are
pretty
aware
of
Glen
Oaks.
That
was
a
heck
of
a
project.
It
was
waiting
for
my
time
before
I
was
here.
I
wish
I
had
a
project
like
this,
where
I
could
take.
You
know
that
computer
contributing
area
and
make
that
big
of
an
impact
it
basically
took
33
homes
out
of
floodplain
tons
of
water
quality
components
there.
K
This
project,
you
know,
basically
led
the
way
for
all
the
projects
that
I've
been
involved
in
since
I
came
seven
a
half
years
ago,
so
we
built
this
project
and
it
basically
allowed
for
all
the
upstream
projects
to
happen.
So
without
this
one
happening,
none
of
the
projects
that
I've
done
in
the
last
seven
years
would
be
possible
because
it
would
cause
adverse
impacts.
If
this
wasn't
the
first
thing
to
happen.
So
this
was
kind
of
this
was
my
kickoff
for
for
the
next
projects.
K
Here's
a
missing
one
photo,
but
this
is
basically
this
shows
it's
not
really
what
it
looks
like
if
you
drive
by
you
would
not
know
that.
That's
underneath
the
ground,
it's
basically
a
giant
concrete,
retaining
wall
with
labyrinth,
where
your
areolas
that's
a
labyrinth,
we're
so,
basically
what
that?
Doesn't
it
zigzags
that
water
through
to
very,
very
small
velocities,
so
that
your
your
pre
post
velocity,
your
flow
rate
is
the
same
pre
post.
K
So
it's
just
it's
a
very
creative
way
to
slow
water
down,
but
still
get
the
volume
that
you
need
so
that
this
one
was
pretty
awesome.
Hillcrest
bypass
I
talked
to
you
about
this
last
year,
we're
halfway
through
construction,
I'd,
say
it's
a
heck
of
a
project.
We've
got
36
homes
coming
on
the
floodplain
with
this
one
again
flood
protection
project,
basically
we're
putting
a
giant
box
culvert,
it's
12
by
87
box,
color
way
bigger
than
me,
going
all
the
way
down,
1,200
feet
down
the
street.
K
Here's
a
couple
pictures
for
you
doesn't
really
look
that
impressive
unless
you're
actually
out
there
or
you
see
the
people
putting
it
together
and
all
of
a
sudden,
the
set
of
this
the
size
and
scope
of
it
kinda,
it's
mind-boggling,
so
I,
don't
anticipate
this.
This
bypass
being
full,
that's
a
lot
of
water,
but
it's
definitely
gonna.
It's
gonna
drop
that
flood
stage
and
take
those
36
homes
out
of
floodplain,
which
is
pretty
awesome,
driven
Road,
Alan's,
Creek
alerts.
I
alluded
to
this
one
earlier,
it's
also
in
the
construction
phase.
K
This
project
has
been
ongoing
for
quite
a
while
we're
hammering
it
out
now
we're
putting
60.
We
put
60
inch
pipe
in
where
there
was
no
pipe
before
hardly
there's
a
24
inch
pipe
I'm
going
to
60.
If
you
ever
driven
down
Giroud
Road
in
a
rainstorm,
you
know
what
happens.
It's
a
water
slide
from
Hercules.
All
the
way
down
to
our
Taurus
is
a
water
slide.
K
So
again,
this
is
this:
is
a
water
quality
project
per
Swift
mud
who's,
our
cooperative
funder
for
this
one
we
applied
for
it
as
a
water
quality
and
flood
protection
project
back
in
2014
and
at
the
time
they
couldn't,
they
didn't
have
a
rubric
for
grading
a
project.
Water
quality
and
flood
protection
had
to
be
one
or
the
other.
K
So
in
that
case
you
know,
if
I
were
to
come
back
today
and
go
for
this
project,
we
would
have
had
more
funding
source
available
from
self
might,
but
we
did
in
this
case,
get
the
baffle
box
cover
under
this
project
for
the
water
quality
aspect,
but
that
was
it
for
the
four
million
dollar
project,
but
regardless
that
that
stage
that
water
is
gonna
go
underground,
it's
no
longer
going
to
be
a
waterslide.
We're
gonna
get
some
treatment
out
of
it.
K
So
this
is
kind
of
a
just
a
water
quality
and
flood
protection,
but
didn't
really
get
that
tiny
name.
So
this
is
our
backup
box
going
in
it's
a
little
one.
It's
not
another
big
deal.
It's
basically
a
tractor-trailer.
If
you
guys
have
seen
these
before
we
put
them
on
a
lot
of
projects
around
the
city
country
does
a
good
job
with
their
units.
K
We've
put
the
new
aluminum
pieces
in
here,
because
it's
the
new
upgraded
version
that
doesn't
rust
doesn't
fall
apart
and
hopefully
it
works
well,
the
next
one
we
have
it
coming
up
this
one's
at
the
college,
5060
design
stage.
We
have
some
easement
acquisition
that
we
need
to
actually
build
this
project.
This
is
a
in
conjunction
with
Pinellas
County's
project
right
now,
they're
doing
sunset
point
where
they're
putting
a
new
bridge
in
at
sunset
point
that's
been
closed
for
quite
a
while.
K
Basically,
we
submitted
to
Swift
mod
to
do
our
project,
which
is
replace
the
bridge
at
springtime
from
1928,
replace
the
bridge
at
Overbrook,
which
is
similar
age
and
add
an
additional
box
culvert
barrel
across
Douglas
Avenue.
So
what
this
does
because
of
Glen
Oaks
is
now
we
can
increase
the
amount
of
flow
coming
through
this
area.
So
essentially,
the
choke
point
is
now
relieved,
so
upstream,
no
longer
heads
planing,
so
11
homes.
K
Out
of
this
one
get
pulled
out
of
the
floodplain,
and
this
is
in
conjunction
with,
like
I,
said
Pinellas
County,
our
benefits
hinged
on
Pinellas
County,
doing
Sunset
Point
upstream.
If
they
did
not
do
Sunset
Point,
it
really
wouldn't
make
a
difference.
We
couldn't
do
ours
because
there
be
adverse
impacts
and
I
know
it's
County
relying
on
us
to
do
our
section
because
they
don't
get
the
benefit
of
anyone
on
the
floodplain.
K
If
we
don't
do
our
section,
so
that's
the
commingling,
it's
a
it's,
a
joint
application
that
we're
working
together
with
Pinellas,
County
and
Swift
mud
to
get
that
one
going
so
right
now
that
one's
that
sixty
percent,
like
I,
said
we
have
some
easement
acquisition
because
state
waters
and
it
gets
complicated,
but
we're
working
on
that
so,
like
I,
said
still
more
utility
fee.
Basically
what
it
does.
It
provides
resources,
empower
our
staff
to
make
a
difference,
and
you
know
this.
This
resource
allows
our
staff
to
go
and
make
things
better.
Happy
answering
questions.
C
Starting
out
with
the
the
criterion
that
you
have
for
the
1830
square
feet
of
impervious
area,
you
know
that
kind
of
determines
how
many
units
of
you
know
your
feed
that
you're
gonna
charge.
Do
you
have
any
credits
for
groundwater
recharge,
which
is
a
big
issue
here
as
well?
You
know
the
big
investments
have
been
made
in
terms
of
putting
you
know
treated
effluent
back
into
the
ground
in
in
clear
water,
and
you
know:
are
there
incentives
for
people
creating
new
impervious
services
to
use?
You
know,
infiltrative
drainage
systems.
K
It
comes
to
that
specific,
like
deep
water
injection,
or
any
of
that
you
know
that's
handled
by
utilities,
division.
What
we
do
for
the
stormwater
part.
It
doesn't
really
affect
your
eru
calculation
or
your
feast
or
utility
fee,
say
you're
a
developer
and
you
had
to
you
want
it
to
build
a
new
subdivision
or
you
want
to
build
new,
condos
and
you're
required
to
have
treatment,
innovation
volumes
per
our
regulations
for
the
entire
site
of
that
new.
K
Basically,
of
that
new
development,
you
know
what
we
allow
is
if
there
was
something
on
that
site
previously,
like
a
parking
lot
or
a
building,
you
know
we
would
count
that
as
50%
of
the
area
impervious
would
count
towards
that
volume.
So
you
get
some
sort
of
credit
when
it's
that
redevelopment
criteria,
you
know
if
you
were
using
and
we've
actually
gone
on
a
limb
a
little
bit
and
changed
our
criteria
for
alternate
methods
like
pervious
pavers.
K
You
know
I'm
open
to
different
new
technologies
as
long
as
there's
a
basically
a
specification
that
says
that
this
is
how
it
needs
to
be
built.
This
is
how
it's
built
in
there's.
A
maintenance
plan
involved
with
it.
You
know,
because
sometimes
when
you
install
those
type
of
things
they
kind
of
get
installed
and
forgot
about
kind
of,
like
you
know,
cleaning
a
vault
out,
it
doesn't
really
happen.
K
C
C
K
Intention
was
when
we
did
Glen
Oaks
and
we
do
all
these
other
projects.
We
didn't
want
to
keep
going
back
to
get
back
done.
Map
suggest
they
get
map
suggested.
The
idea
is
that
we're
gonna
basically
finish
these
projects
and
then
try
and
adjust
the
Maps
accordingly,
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
logistics
of
that
error.
At
this
point
I
know
it's
a
very
complicated
process,
I'm
hoping
every
homeowners
not
gonna,
have
to
go
through
that
I'm,
hoping
that
will
help
help
that
effort
I'm.
K
When
we're
out
doing
these
projects,
they're
not
like
we're
having
campfires
in
the
backyard
and
that's
a
great
time
for
everyone,
you
know
it's
it's,
it's
we
get
in
people's
business
and
you
know
we're
there
for
a
while.
So
you
know,
if
we
can,
you
know
half
half
of
selling
the
project,
not
only
that
we
get
to
take
people
on
the
floodplain.
You
know,
half
of
it
is
saying
you
know
what
we're
doing
these
to
benefit
your
neighbors
and
yourself.
So
I
think
that's
that's
a
responsible
thing
to
try
and
continue
to
promote
just.
E
So
right
now
we
have
applied
to
FEMA,
and
that
is
a
significant
map
change,
and
so
we
are
requesting
we're
not
like
we're
not
asking
a
homeowner
to
go
and
change
their
little
bit
like
we've,
we've
done
the
engineering
for
it,
and
so
we
are
presenting
that
to
FEMA
and
working
on
that
process.
Very
lengthy,
multiple
years
like
working
through
that
one
reason
and
Roger
alluded
to
it-
that
we
have
not
gone
to
map
changes
for
every
single
project.
E
As
so,
many
of
these
projects
rely
on
each
other,
and
so
it's
like,
if
you,
if
we
just
did
Glen
Oaks
the
the
impacts,
positive
or
negative,
that
we
had
at
Glen
host.
If
we
just
did
that,
and
we
would
have
to
modify
it
again
because
of
the
Hillcrest
project
because
it
changes
things
along
the
way
and
so
by
waiting
until
we
have
the
entire
chain
done,
we
make
it.
So
we
only
have
to
do
it
once
as
opposed
to
modifying
it.
E
Every
time
we
have
another
project-
and
so
that's
one
reason
so
the
other
thing
Roger
mentioned
is
I.
Am
the
CRS
coordinator
community
rating
system,
which
is
under
the
FEMA
umbrella,
and
so
we
get
additional
credit
savings
from
the
National
Flood,
Insurance,
Program
and
so
I
do
take
those
33
homes
from
Glen
Oaks
that
project
and
apply
it
to
that
program
with
k-pot
Park,
which
again
is
on
the
alligator
creek
side.
That's
been
done
for
quite
a
while.
E
E
E
K
Any
different
water
show
to
be
honest
with
you.
You
know:
we've
had
this
to
Moorea
to
leave
your
court
a
while
and
we've
almost
we've
taken.
Some
hits
because
our
firm,
where
a
totally
fee
was
relatively
high
compared
to
other
municipalities
throughout
the
state,
but
our
system
is
the
way
it
is
because
of
this,
and
we
were
able
to
do
you
know
we
did
water
shake
master
plans
for
each
watershed,
which
basically
identified
our
Glen
Oaks
RK
pox.
K
You
know
where,
where
we
could
get
these
these,
these
winds,
where
we
could
pull
these
people
out
of
floodplain
so
incomplete
in
doing
this
from
20
years
back
and
building
these
projects
out
to
where
they
are
now,
you
know,
we've
got
all
the
low-hanging
fruit.
You
know
I
hate
that
term,
but
you
know
we
have
all
the
big
projects
in
line
in
construction,
if
not
nearly
in
construction.
At
this
point,
they're
identified
in
those
original
watershed
master
plans,
so
you
know.
K
F
K
Pretty
good
shape
that
we
don't
have
the
the
need
to
raise
our
rates
considerably
to
make
up
that
differential,
and
then
you
know
this
year.
You
know
our
rates
staying
the
same
and
then
staying
same
next
year.
So
you
know
the
way
that
structure
works.
We
basically
have
someone
that
does
a
rate
study
for
us
every
year
to
determine
where
the
needs
are.
You
know
originally,
you
know
without
getting
into
a
lot
of
detail.
K
There
was
some
some
political
pressure
and
you
know
some
regulations
that
might
be
coming
down
the
pipe
that
we
wanted
to
be
ready
for
you
know
if
we
have
to
start
doing,
you
know
stormwater
treatment
facilities.
You
know,
how
are
we
gonna
fund
that?
How
are
we
gonna
do
that?
You
know
how
are
we
gonna
plan
for
that?
So
you
know:
I'm
not
gonna
say
that
our
rates
are
gonna,
go
down
everyone's
gonna.
K
D
C
K
I
think
the
focus
that's
with
what
has
now
on
their
proper
funding
as
their
requirement
now
is
no
matter
what
your
project
is.
If
you
want,
whatever
funding,
you
have
to
show
a
water
quality
component
which
we
were
doing
anyways,
but
now
they're
requiring
everyone
to
do
that
and
have
their
cost-benefit
of
those
water
quality
included
in
each
it's
middle
son.
I
still.
A
Have
some
of
the
same
concerns
I
had
last
year
regarding
that
project
with
the
culvert,
where
I
did
it
just
I'm?
Looking
at
it,
I
don't
see
much
fencing
around
there.
The
kids
and
the
animals
could
still
easily
get
in
that
culvert.
That
was
one
of
the
main
concerns
I
had
last
year.
As
I
recall,
it
still
doesn't
look
safe,
but.
B
I
had
a
couple
of
quick
questions:
do
you
have
a
maintenance
program
for
swale
for
digging
that
out
or
is
that
something
I
didn't
know
if
that
I
didn't
see?
If
that
was
mentioned,.
K
Yeah
we
we
have
an
actual
dedicated
crew
that
goes
and
maintains
our
ditches
and
our
smiles
they
maintain
for
flow.
So
if
you
know
they
look
up
the
dishes
on
an
annual
or
whatever
their
cycle
is
for
that
specific.
So,
yes,
we
do
have
a
program
for
maintaining
our
dishes
in
swales,
okay,
we
do.
You
know
I,
like
a
V
OTT
that
saying
that
we
don't
know
them
like
a
golf
course.
We
mow
them
so
that
they
function.
You
know
we
maintain
our
ponds
so
that
they
function.
K
B
K
That
that's
a
tricky
one.
Okay,
we
have
city,
swales
and
ditches
that
are
our
responsibility.
We
also
have
swells
and
ditches
that
are
private
responsibility
of
homeowners.
We
have
privately,
we
have
HOAs
are
responsible,
so
it
all
depends.
You
know
you
know.
Typically,
we
like
the
phone
calls
come
up
to
us
and
we
determine
you
know
if
it's
the
use
of
city
resources
to
maintain
that
if
it's
County
I'll
call
the
county
and
say
hey,
we
got
a
phone
call,
so
we
all
work
together
to
figure
it
out.
K
B
K
The
replacement,
typically,
it's
concrete,
okay,
we're
open
to
an
80s
or
a
poly
if
it's
in
a
non
traffic
bearing
area,
but
typically
we
like
concrete,
because
we
know
that
it
works
again,
just
like
anything
else:
I'm
open
to
new
products,
I'm
open
to
being
a
little
bit
more
progressive.
If
there's
some
available
product
there,
but
it
needs
to
substantiate
being
there
versus
something
else.
K
I
haven't
been
directly
involved
in
it,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
we've
had
an
eye
and
eye
problem,
our
project,
which
is
basically
an
infiltration
project
where
usually
this
apartments
installed.
You
know
if
you
have
a
manhole,
NOLA,
Road
and
the
rim
is
leaking
when
it
rains
in
stages
up
that
goes
into
the
sewer
system,
so
they're
putting
pans
on
those
seals
on
those
new
manhole
covers
they've
done
a
bunch
of
smoke.
Testing
they've
made
repairs
lining
contract
for
them
as
well.
K
What
they'll
do
is
they'll
line
their
pipes
say
they
have
a
void
or
something
in
that
pipe
that
have
a
water
contract
just
like
we
do
they'll
throw
a
liner
through
there,
so
it's
no
longer
taking
that
storm
water.
So
there's
been
a
lot
of
measures
taken
in
that
iron
air
project
to
try
and
break
things
up.
You
know,
for
instance,
your
clean
out
the
front
yard.
We've
done
a
ton
of
cleanup
replacements.
K
You
know
to
make
sure
that
the
right
clean
I
was
there
and
you
know
the
brass
cap
is
put
on
it
and
you
know
if
it
starts
raining,
that
the
resident
doesn't
go
out
there
and
just
unscrew
it,
and
then
it
goes
into
the
sanitary
system.
So
there
is
a
program,
it's
been
working,
it's
still
happening
now,
all.
B
K
We
haven't
seen
any
impacts
when,
when
it
when
it
relates
to
that
they're
self-sufficient
unit,
you
know
they're
required
to
have
stormwater
treatment,
attenuation
on-site.
They
have
their
own
sanitary
sewer
system
that
goes
into
a
pump
station,
so
they're
self-sufficient.
You
know,
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
any
issues
at
this
point
with
that
with
that
development,
as
far
as
meeting
the
regulatory
requirements
or
discharging
anything
that
they
weren't
previously
doing
so,
they've
they've
done
a
good
job
to
make
sure
they
built
the
right
thing
for
us.
B
You
very
much
all
right
any
other
okay.
Then
we
will
move
on
Thank,
You
Roger.
We
will
move
on
to
item
4.3,
prepare
our
presentation
for
the
environment
advisory
board.
It's
a
City
Council
in
December,
so
I
will
open
up
this
discussion.
I
actually
put
together
some
notes
that
I
will
read
and
then
maybe
we
can
go
off
of
that.
If
we.
B
Discuss
or
dissect
or
anything
else
on,
I
think
as
we
look
toward
2020,
our
board
has
discussed
myriad
environmental
issues,
including
septic
tanks,
single-use
plastics
and
other
litter
trash
receptacles,
alternative
energy
and
solar
use,
green
building
practices
and
tree
removal.
Last
year
we
presented
about
the
need
for
a
sustainability
coordinator
and
city
leaders,
followed
through
on
that
initiative.
This
year
the
EAB
discussion
on
single-use
plastics
and
polystyrene
over
the
last
couple
years
led
to
a
resolution
that
City
Council
passed.
B
Is
there
a
requirement
for
them
to
and
what
impact
do
we
have?
Our
residents
have
as
well
on
projects
or
environmental
issues.
If
plans
are
already
in
place,
our
projects
are
already
near
completion.
Perhaps
this
takes
the
shape
in
the
form
of
staff
developing
parameters
to
review
appropriate
projects
at
the
60%
phase.
A
team
that
goes
over
these
could
include
the
sustainability
coordinator,
a
representative
from
environmental
engineering
and
stormwater
engineering
could
determine
which
projects
would
come
before
our
board.
B
I
think
we've
had
an
engaged
board
and
an
engaged
group
of
citizens
who
provide
valuable
insight
and
as
resiliency
sustainability
and
quality
of
life
issues
related
to
the
environment
continue
to
the
forefront.
Our
board
should
be
receptive,
flexible
and
considered
a
valuable
partner
as
these
projects
and
plans
move
forward
and
as
the
city
continues
to
work
on
and
tackle
large
capital
improvement
and
other
projects.
Let's
consider
how
our
board
can
contribute
to
make
clear
water,
bright
and
beautiful.
C
Yeah
John
I
think
you
know
one
of
the
points
that
Miss
Dreier
brought
up.
You
know
about
the
scope
of
environmental
reviews
for
larger
projects
within
the
city.
You
know
is
an
important
issue.
I
know
the
development
code
goes,
you
know
a
certain
distance
to
provide
evaluations,
but
there
may
be
a
better
way
to
address
the
broader
scope
of
environmental
issues
and
encouraging
some
of
the
green
design
initiatives.
C
The
whole
host
of
issues
from
in
transportation,
air
quality
quality,
there's
wildlife,
habitat
issues.
We
don't
have
that
many
green
spaces,
but
you
know
there
are
issues
that
certainly
do
dependent
on
the
site's
context,
and
you
know
what
the
proposal
is.
They
warrant
some
investigation
of
things
that
aren't
specifically
identified
in
the
present
codes.
A
C
A
Cover
there
in
that
thing,
there's
the
special
events
we've
talked
I
know
mr.
Beckman
over
there
has
suppose
more
recycling
at
these
events
in
time,
no
styrofoam
and
eliminating
a
lot
of
these
things.
I'm
making
the
permit
process
for
special
events
include
questions
about
that
and
requirements
for
recycling
and
eliminating
single-use
plastics
and
things
like
that
as
part
of
the
special
events
permitting
process.
H
B
I
think
that
when
we
talked
about
that
in
the
past,
that
was
one
of
the
things
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
city
was
a
leader
as
well
too,
to
lead
by
example
and
I.
Think
that
John,
you
make
a
good
point.
There
are
a
lot
of
issues
and
they
are
in
many
different
departments
and
somehow
they
filter
to
an
environmental
concerns
at
some
point
and
so
I
think
for
us.
C
C
To
park
in
the
shade
yeah
and
you
know,
does
it
work
I,
don't
know
if
it
does
work
and
I
think
it
also
really
conveys
a
sense
to
tourists
and
people
that
you
know
clear
water.
Is
you
know
doing
things
that
are
great
mm-hmm
I
know
the
mayor
had
indicated
you
know,
there's
a
knit
desire
to
you
know
have
that
perception.
Yeah.
B
G
G
Those
are
ongoing
opportunities
and
I
realize
in
some
ways
it
can
maybe
seem
too
broad
to
bring
in
front
of
the
council
because
they
might
be
so
large,
but
yet
I
think
it's
still
important
to
reinforce
I,
think
that
either
set
standards
or
like
John
was
saying
to
start
pilot
efforts
in
some
of
those
different
areas.
You
know
to
to
the
point
around
solar
there
still
hasn't
been
solar
put
on
a
building
yet
or
plans
to
do
so.
G
There's
been
some
level
of
investigation,
which
is
a
great
start,
but
it's
hasn't
resulted
anything
yet
so
continuing
to
advocate
for
those
kind
of
things
as
I
guess.
A
continuation
of
some
of
the
steps
that
have
been
taken
over
the
last
year
would
be
great
things
to
do.
Have
the
council
seriously
consider
from
the
adviser
report
Thanks?
Thank
you
very
much.
D
E
E
E
E
A
Meeting
that
you
know
I
had
brought
up.
The
last
meeting
was
about
the
littering
fines
and
things
like
that.
I,
don't
know
where
I
was
hoping
to
have
somebody
report
on
yeah.
Maybe
we
could
get
status
of
or
are
we
we
find
out
root
github?
Is
there
a
revenue
stream
for
these
finds?
What
the
what's
happening
is
it
increasing?
Is
it
decreasing?
Can
we
do
something?
Do
we
need
to
get
the
state?
That's
a
discussion
I'd
like
to
have
yeah.
B
B
E
B
Let
me
see
I
think
I
wrote
a
couple
other
things
down
here
too,
just
to
Glen
had
already
mentioned
earlier.
Today
the
clear
sustainability
conference
is
Saturday.
Hopefully
we
can
make
it
it's
from
9:00
to
1:00
and
Ross
Norton
rec
center.
It's
a
really
exciting
event.
November
second
there's
also
operation
shred.
B
B
The
mayor
I
saw
a
recent
work
session
meeting
that
he's
pledged
to
sign
the
climate
mayor's
group
and
sign
on
to
that
so
I
thought
that
was
a
great
thing
for
us
to
join
the
more
than
427
other
cities
that
have
also
signed
on
to
that.
So
with
that,
and
nothing
else
to
be
said
well
adjourn.
Thank
you.