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I'm
sorry,
pat,
oh
okay,
well
I'll
call
the
meeting
to
order
at
4
02
403.
Today
january
19th,
the
environmental
advisory
board
is
called
to
order.
Welcome
everyone.
The
members
of
the
environmental
advisory
board
were
appointed
by
city
council.
We
serve
voluntarily.
The
board's
objective
is
to
provide
citizen
insight
to
the
city,
council
and
staff
on
environmental
activities
within
and
affecting
the
city
of
clearwater
agendas.
At
today's
meeting
are
on
the
wall.
A
At
the
entrance
to
the
chamber,
please
remember
to
turn
off
your
cell
phones
and
electronic
devices
to
ensure
a
complete
record
of
the
board's
actions.
We
ask
each
individual
wishing
to
speak
to
clearly
state
your
name
and
spell
it
for
the
clerk
well
members
of
the
board
and
staff.
Please
introduce
yourselves
we'll
start
to
my
left.
B
Hello,
my
name
is
sheila
sullivan.
I
am
passionate
about
the
tackling
the
climate
crisis
and
with
the
with
science-based
solutions
and
to
help
implement
the
green
print
2.0.
Thank
you.
C
My
name
is
marita
lynch.
I
think
I'm
going
into
my
third
year
on
the
council,
which
I
feel
very
fortunate
about,
and
I
think
that
climate
crisis
is
the
issue
of
our
times
and
we
need
to
do
everything
we
can
to
address
it
all
right.
I'm
the.
A
Right
and
our
other
member
will
be
joining
us
shortly.
Glenna
our
first
order
of
business
is
to
review
and
approve
minutes
of
the
last
meeting
board
members.
Are
there
any
changes
or
corrections?
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If
there
aren't?
Can
I
have
a
motion
to
occur,
move
to
approve
all
right.
F
A
E
Unfortunately,
mr
jennings
is
not
feeling
well,
and
so
he
was
unable
to
join
us
today,
but
he
will
I've.
I've
asked
him
a
few
questions
that
I
know
you
guys
are
concerned
about.
So
hopefully
we
will
be
at
our
next
meeting
and
he
will
hopefully
answer
some
of
those
questions
in
the
interim.
A
Okay,
great
our
other
new
business
item,
4.2
presentation
about
the
sierra
club's
ready
for
100
by
dave
silman.
Thank
you
good
afternoon.
Everybody.
G
Okay,
great,
I
have
about
a
10-minute
presentation.
Hopefully
that's
okay.
I
guess
I
have
a
little
more
time.
I
cut
it
down
as
much
as
I
could.
Thank
you
so
much
again,
my
name
is
dave
sillman.
I
am
a
member
of
the
executive
committee
of
our
pinellas
county
suncoast
chapter
of
the
sierra
club
and
freshly
off
of
the
organizing,
the
ready
for
100
pinellas
county
campaign,
which
you're
going
to
be
familiar
with,
which
wrapped
up
successfully
last
year,
we
got
a
commitment
from
the
county
to
clean
energy
goals.
G
So
what
I'm
going
to
talk
about
a
little
bit
today
is
the
basics.
What
ready
for
100
is
how
cities
are
responding
and
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
why
it
matters
I'm
going
to
breeze
through
that,
because
I
know
most
of
you
are
up
to
speed
on
what's
going
on
out
there,
so
the
ready
for
100
campaign
is
a
national
sierra
club
initiative
started
back
in
2016.
G
G
All
told
that
that
comprises
100
million
americans,
almost
a
full
one
in
one
third
of
the
country,
lives
in
a
place
that
has
made
these
commitments
and
the
momentum
and
the
popularity
is
quite
exciting.
G
The
aggregate
impact
of
all
these
commitments
made
today
would
be
equivalent
to
taking
66
million
cars
off
the
road
or
retiring
79
coal
plants.
So
this
is
a
a
big
deal
to
be
sure,
and
we
are
so
fortunate
here
in
pinellas
to
really
be
a
leading
county
in
the
in
the
nation.
We
have
four
cities
that
have
made
this
commitment.
St
pete
got
the
ball
rolling
in
2016.
G
They
were
the
first
city
in
the
southeast
to
have
made
this
commitment
and
you
can
see
dunedin
largo
and
safety
harbor
have
followed
suit
since
and
then,
of
course,
as
mentioned
last
november,
we
got
the
county
to
become
the
first
county
in
florida
to
make
such
a
commitment.
It's
a
big
deal.
We
hope
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
synergies
between
the
the
county's
efforts
and
our
cities,
and
we
hope
this
will.
You
know
the
higher
up
the
level
these
commitments
are
made,
the
more
impact
they
have.
G
So
we're
really
excited
about
this.
Well,
you
can
see
how
excited
we
are
right.
There,
here's
a
graph
showing
the
growth
of
these
commitments.
Again,
the
sierra
club
initiative
started
in
2016..
We
like
to
think
it
was
our
efforts
that
resulted
in
this
dramatic
adoption
of
these
commitments.
I
don't
quite
know
what
happened
in
2019
there,
but
even
in
2020,
even
in
the
first
year
of
the
pandemic,
these
commitments
doubled
around
the
globe
and
interesting
to
know.
G
G
The
leading
software
companies,
banks,
insurance
companies
on
and
on
and
on,
and
by
no
means
is
this
all
altruism.
This
is
this
is
good.
Business.
Clean
energy
is
now
cheaper
than
than
fossil
fuels
and
that's
driving
this
transition,
which
is
well
underway.
G
This
is
where
I'll
start
breezing
through
these
a
little
quickly,
because
I
know
you
all
understand
that
our
little
goldilocks
atmosphere
on
this
planet
that
that
allows
life
to
thrive
if
left
to
its
own
devices,
is
but
a
thin
shell
of
a
layer
into
which
we
spew
152
million
tons
of
heat
trapping
pollution
every
single
day,
which
is
equivalent
according
to
dr
james
hansen,
former
head
of
nasa's
goddard
research
center
equivalent
to
exploding
600
000
hiroshima
sized
bombs
every
single
day
in
terms
of
the
heat
energy
that
we
are
trapping
right
now-
and
I
know
you
know
the
the
graph
of
fossil
fuels
and
co2
concentrations
of
the
atmosphere
that
graph
parallels
the
graph
of
global
temperatures.
G
The
trends
are
clear:
the
we're
breaking
records
almost
every
year,
the
five
hottest
years
have
been
within
the
last
five
or
six
here.
Actually,
this
slide
is
a
little
outdated,
2020
tied
for
the
hottest
year
on
record
in
2021,
I
believe,
has
come
in
as
the
sixth
hottest
year.
G
Of
course,
we
know
the
ill
effects
of
the
climate
crisis,
especially
here
in
florida
heat
waves,
and
we
know
that
much
of
the
heat,
the
majority
of
the
heat
is
absorbed
by
the
oceans
which
causes
sea
level
rise.
It's
not
just
melting
glaciers,
it's
thermal
expansion
and
we
have
to
be
keenly
aware
of
that
here.
I
know
you
all
know
that
the
graph
of
ocean
temperatures
parallels
that
of
atmospheric
temperatures
as
well.
G
This
is
an
interesting
slide.
You
can
see
here
down
toward
the
right.
Miami
comes
in
at
number
nine
of
the
most
at
risk
cities
on
planet
earth.
I
don't
think
the
tampa
bay
region
is
too
much
higher
by
elevation.
If
you
resort
this
list
by
assets
at
risk,
miami
is
number
one
I
don't
think
we're
terribly
far
behind
in
that
regard.
Either
ill
effects
continue
these
rain
bombs.
These
we've
had
21
and
1
000
year.
Downpour
events
since
2010.
we're
supposed
to
have
these
one.
G
All
over
the
country,
all
over
the
world,
the
climate
crisis,
as
you
know,
leads
to
more
wildfires.
This
graph
shows
the
correlation
between
temperature
rise
and
number
of
fires
makes
you
a
little
glad
that
we
only
have
to
contend
with
hurricanes.
At
least
we
can
run
away.
This
hellscape
is
something
I'm
glad
we
get
to
avoid
here
and
we're
we've
become
used
to
the
western
u.s
and
canada
on
fire
every
summer.
G
G
Another
big
ill,
which
is
sometimes
overlooked,
is
the
health
care
and
and
deaths
caused
by
air
pollution.
8.7
million
people
die
every
year
from
air
pollution
which
we
can
eliminate
by
switching
to
clean
fossil
fuels.
This
is
just
a
summary
of
all
the
costs.
The
real
dollar
cost
we
already
paid.
It
is
such
an
expensive
problem
already
that
the
solutions,
although
they
will
take
huge
historic
investments,
are
far
cheaper
than
business.
As
usual.
The
climate
crisis
is
the
number
one
threat
to
the
global
economy.
G
The
dire
warnings
we
hear
are
no
longer
just
from
the
global
scientific
community.
They
are
from
the
the
world
economic
community.
This
is
from
the
commodities
futures
trading
commission
under
the
trump
administration,
actually
released
a
report
and
called
for
urgent
action
and
an
immediate
carbon
tax
because
of
the
risk
to
our
financial
system,
and,
of
course,
we
know
last
year
the
dire
warnings
from
the
u.n.
This
is
not
a
static
situation.
The
climate
crisis
is
accelerating
and
this
sober
body,
this
aggregate
voice
of
the
global
scientific
community
is
calling
it
a
code
red
for
humanity.
G
So
must
we
change?
Yes,
we
must.
Can
we
change?
The
good
news
begins.
Make
no
mistake:
we
have
everything
we
need
in
hand
today
and
if
I'm
wrong,
it's
only
by
this
much
just
a
quick
snapshot
of
some
of
the
really
truly
exciting
things
going
on
out
there.
The
2000
projection
for
world
wind
capacity,
of
course,
was
that
we
would
reach
30
gigawatts
by
2010.
In
reality,
we
exceeded
that
by
22
times,
wind
power
is
taken
off.
Here's
here's
the
global
adoption
of
wind
energy
and
I'm
sorry
it
cuts
off
at
2019.
G
That
trend
line
does
continue
in
the
subsequent
years
as
well,
solar,
even
more
dramatic.
Oh,
my
goodness,
solar
is
booming.
The
turn
of
the
century
projection
was
that
we
would
grow
by
one
gigawatt
per
year
by
2010.
We
exceeded
that
by
17
times,
that
was
by
2010
and
by
2019.
We
had
exceeded
that
by
121
times
and
I
sincerely
apologize.
I
don't
have
better
data
because
solar
just
blows
through
all
projections.
It
is
growing
at
a
transformative
rate.
G
G
Last
slide
sure
the
last
slide
is
this
is
the
cost
decline
of
solar
pv
and
it
is
just
an
inverse
relation
to
the
the
adoption
curve,
so
they
are
they're
equals
and
opposites
to
each
other.
Storage
will
be
the
game.
Changer.
Battery
storage
is
coming
down
so
dramatically
in
price,
it's
a
few
years
behind
solar,
but
make
no
mistake.
The
projections
are
profound,
sell
your
exxon
mobil
stock.
Now
we
know
what's
happening
in
evs,
so
many,
maybe
all
major
automakers
have
committed
to
evs
many
have
committed
to
phase
out
internal
combustion
engines.
G
Adoption
is
only
going
to
grow
as
we
have
more
choices
on
our
local
lots,
and
this
is
very
much
a
business
store
because
clean
energy
you
know,
is
now
cheaper
than
fossil
fuels.
It
changes
the
whole
equation.
It
changes
the
old
paradigm.
We
have
the
economic
case
on
the
side
of
clean
energy.
You
know
wall
street
knows
it.
Venture
capital
knows
it
and
money
is
flying
and
the
climate
tech
is
the
darling
of
venture
capital
and
smart
money
and
big
money
is
going
into
these
solutions
because
it's
smart
business.
G
C
G
Other
technologies
are
coming.
Battery
storage
is
coming
green
hydrogen,
a
number
of
a
number
of
other
options.
Of
course,
we
always
heard
often
about
the
number
of
jobs
that
stand
to
be
created,
depending
on
whose
numbers
you
believe
it's
in
the
tens
of
millions,
and
we
are
entering
an
era
of
cheaper
energy.
G
Not
only
is
it
cheaper
now
it
continues
down
the
cost
curve,
so
the
average
family
which
now
spends
about
forty
two
hundred
dollars
a
year
for
fuel,
stands
to
save
upwards
of
two
thousand
dollars
per
year
and
we're
talking
about
stabilizing
energy
prices
too.
Any
energy
prices
largely
fluctuate
because
of
sublime
demand
in
fuel.
Right.
G
No
fuel
cannot
overstate
the
impact
that
we
will
that
the
fuel
is
free.
So
can
we
change
absolutely
unequivocally?
Will
we
change?
That's
the
million
dollar
question.
It's
all
about
the
kids.
After
all,
to
quote
my
favorite
environmental
saying
we
don't
inherit
the
world
from
our
parents.
We
borrow
it
from
our
children.
A
C
G
You
know
it's
such
an
interesting
question,
there's
so
much
great
stuff
going
on
in
pinellas
county.
It's
a
brave
new
world
to
be
sure
everybody
is
is.
Is
writing
the
script
step?
One
is
generally
to
create
a
plan
like
green
print.
2.0
just
came
out,
dunedin
just
released
their
brand
spanking
new
plan
yesterday.
G
So
writing
a
master
plan
is
one
of
the
very
first
steps.
It's
a
heavy
lift.
It
can
take
literally
years
to
put
these
plans
together
in
the
interim.
There
are
many
things.
Dunedin
is
is
showing
a
lot
of
leadership.
They
have
solar
rebates
right
now,
they're
solarizing
buildings.
There's
a
lot
of
things.
You
can
do
as
you
plan
your
your
master
plan,
but
there's
a
lot
of
low-hanging
fruit.
There
are,
I
think,
clearwater
uses
an
energy
services
company
synergistics.
G
There
are
companies
out
there
that
are
expert
in
in
a
holistic
approach
and
can
help
you
basically
on
the
efficiency
side
and
and
deploying
clean
energy
where
it
makes
sense.
Duke
has
you
know
the
clean
energy
connections
program?
I
don't
know
if
clearwater
many
many
cities
and
the
county
itself
have
signed
up
for
the
clean
energy
connections
where
duke
is
building
giant
solar
projects
in
the
middle
of
the
state
and
allowing
people
and
cities
and
businesses
to
subscribe.
So
municipalities,
the
county
have
signed
up.
G
G
Well,
the
the
adapter
for
formal
resolution.
They
are
in
the
process
of
putting
the
finishing
touches
on
their
master
sustainability
and
resiliency
plan.
So,
for
example,
these
goals
now
will
be
baked
into
that
plan,
and
you
know
in
the
in
the
general
terms,
it
will
be
a
lens
through
which
all
county
business
now
is
conducted
with
an
eye
towards
sustainability.
G
C
G
You
know
not
necessarily
at
this
point,
the
retro
100
initiative
at
our
national
sierra
club
level
and
and
us
locally
as
well,
are
turning
our
attention.
Now,
we're
actually
changing
our
focus
a
little
bit
more
less
toward
getting
new
commitments
and
more
toward
helping
committed
cities
with
the
implementation.
G
F
So
ahead,
the
the
first
time
I
ever
spoke
in
front
of
this
board
was
to
ask
if
you
were
interested
in
the
ready
for
100
program,
wanted
to
hear
about
it,
and
I
think
brian
beckman
came
and
made
a
presentation.
It
was
probably
about
four
years
ago,
and
now,
where
we're
at
is
we
have
a
sustainability
plan
that
has
committed
to
80
percent.
F
Clean
renewable
energy
by
2050.,
so
at
the
time
I
mean
we
we
were,
you
know.
I
said
I'd
like
to
see
100,
you
know
because
we're
on
our
way.
I
mean
there's
no
question
that
you
know
we
have
a
solar
feasibility
study,
we're
looking
at
a
synergistic
contract
we'd
just
like
to
see
it
go
to
a
hundred
percent.
You
know,
and
it
was
brought
it
was.
F
It
was
brought
up
before
council
as
well
at
the
time
and
but
anyway,
this
is
basically
clearwater
and
and
clearwater
has
made,
and
maybe
and
sheridan
can
speak
more
to
it
specifically
with
duke
made.
You
know
gotten
into
the
agreement
and
with
duke
on
the
clean
energy
connections
program.
F
So
I
don't
know
after
like
40
percent,
I
don't
know
if
we
we've
gotten
in
on
that
from
the
get-go,
so
yeah
the
ready
for
100
program.
I'm
you
know,
I'm
also
on
I'm
with
dave
on
the
suncoast
sierra
club
executive
committee,
and
so
I
mean
basically
it
has
it's
a
commitment
by
communities
to
achieve
100,
clean,
renewable
energy,
and
it's
not
just
for
them.
For
government
buildings,
a
government,
you
know
fueling
station
government
fleets,
but
but
for
the
whole
community.
C
So
yeah,
so
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
understand
is:
how
can
we,
as
a
board,
make
an
actionable
step
out
of
what
you
are
saying?
How
can
we
put
our
weight
behind
some
change,
especially
when
we
already
have
green
print,
I
mean:
is
there
some
sort
of
gap,
analysis
that
needs
to
be
done
between
what
green
print
is
saying
with
the
80
and
what
ready
for
100
is
doing,
and
what
can
we?
What
actionable
step
can
we
do
to
put
our
combined
efforts
behind
this.
G
Sure
sure,
well
I'll
tell
you
what
the
fact
that
you
have
a
goal
baked
into
green
print
is
wonderful.
That's
ready
for
100
is
about
the
goals
how
those
goals
are
achieved.
You
know
that
that
is
something
that
each
municipality
municipality
figures
out
for
themselves.
So
the
fact
that
you
have
this
goal
is
actually
wonderful.
You
you've
already
accomplished
what
we
aim
to
accomplish
in
cities
that
haven't
yet
done
that
I
would
say
you
know
the
science
says
the
the
ipcc
says
that
we
have
to
be
carbon-free
by
2050..
G
We
have
to
be
100
by
2050
or
our
kids
are
cooked.
So
you
know
when
we
approach
the
the
county,
we
our
ask
was
as
actually
as
as
lengthy
as
it
could
be.
We
asked
for
that
community-wide
clean
energy
by
2050
and
to
be
45
reduction
by
the
end
of
this
decade.
All
that,
basically,
are
the
ipcc
goals.
That's
what
the
science
says
we
need
to
do
to
stay
but
below
1.5.
G
So,
on
the
one
hand
you
know,
unfortunately,
the
green
print
plans
don't
really
align
with
the
science.
The
good
news
is
we're
all
going
to
exceed
those
goals
there.
The
world
is
changing
beneath
our
feet,
so
fast
business
and
the
economics
behind
this
is
driving
this.
This
is
an
age
of
so
much
disruption
and
innovation.
G
G
You
know
it's
going
to
be
made
up
of
multiple
steps.
I
mean
by
and
large,
and
I
hope
this
gets
a
little
bit
more
to
what
you're
asking
every
step
between
here
and
100
is
going
to
be
an
exercise
in
efficiency
or
for
us,
a
lot
of
solar,
rooftop
solar
is
is,
as
I
say,
it's
growing
at
a
transformational
clip
wherever
there's
opportunities
to
add
solar
by
all
means.
G
Although
solar
is
a
little
bit
sexier
efficiency
oftentimes
has
even
better
returns
on
investment.
So
you
know
great
policy
comes
into
play,
partnering
with
the
solar
co-op,
so
united
neighbors.
I
think
clearwater
has
done
that.
Those
are
great
things,
there's
so
many
tools-
I
I
I
don't
know
if
I'm
giving
you
a
satisfying
answer
but
but
you're
on
track
and
the
fact
that
this
board
exists
and
the
fact
that
greenprint
2.0
just
came
out,
you
guys
are
on
the
right
track.
G
It's
quite
wonderful,
the
only
thing
I
I
always
try
and
do
and
what
you
might
do
is
for
those
who
may
push
back.
I
always
try
and
push
the
business
case.
I'm
scared
to
death
too,
but
I
I
talk
far
more
about
return
on
investment
when
I
lobby
for
these
commitments
than
I
do.
The
climate
science
just
know
that
we
have
the
economic
argument
on
our
side
and
maybe
pull
people
in
the
right
direction
rather
than
then
push
them.
F
I
would
just
you
know,
suggest
I
mean
we
have
greenprint
2.0,
so
I
mean
it's
a
resolution.
It's
not
you
know
it
can
be
made
up
of
ordinances,
it
can
be
decisions
are
made,
you
know
at
intervals,
it
has
that
we
can
support
it
because
it's
once
again,
you
know
it
will
be
implemented
or
it
won't
be
implemented
all
the
aspects
of
it
and
I
think
our
support.
This
would
be
something
I
I
would
see
us
as
a
board
supporting
green
print,
the
implementation
green
print,
every
aspect
of
it.
D
A
Have
a
couple
of
comments
saying
thank
you.
I've
served
on
this
board
since
2016
or
so,
and
I
believe,
that's
around
when
we
first
had
the
right
first
ready
for
100
presentation,
and
it
was
because
of
the
presentation
that
we
pursued
reinvigorated
our
green
print
plan,
which
had
set
nascent
for
half
a
decade
or
so
so
I'm
curious
and
I
think
it's
been
brought
up,
because
at
that
time
we
had
a
document
already
in
place.
A
It
just
had
been
kind
of
dusty
at
that
time
and
I
felt
that
it
was
important
ready
for
100,
clean
energy
and
those
goals
are
lofty
and
important,
but
the
city
had
already
had
something
created
that
spent.
They
spent
a
lot
of
money.
They
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
there's
a
lot
of
a
process
to
go
through
to
to
make
it
work.
A
So
I'm
curious
now
and
I'm
glad
we
are
revisiting
this
at
this
point,
since
we
have
reprint
2.0
on
on
the
books
now,
but
I'm
curious
how
binding
this
would
be
if
it
were
accepted
by
the
council
and
and
also
what
changes
or
if
they
would
coincide
or
if
they're,
if
the
goals
are
appropriate
for
for
greenprint
our
city
hired
someone
to
go
through
and
and
work
on
this,
and
you
know
I
I
just
I
I
don't
know
if
this
is
competing
with
that
or.
G
Well
again,
I
would
say
a
couple
of
things.
First
of
all,
the
fact
that
you
have
the
goal
in
greenprint
really
is
sort
of
the
heart
and
soul
of
this
issue
and
that
that's
really
important.
If
you
and-
and
you
brought
up
something
you
know
about
changing
goals,
we
tried
to
include
language
in
the
pinellas
county.
One
referring
to
this
plan
will
be
revisited
every
couple
of
years
and
made
more
aggressive
as
technology
allows,
so
that
kind
of
leaves
an
open
door
to
to
revisit
and
tighten
things
up
and
yeah.
G
I
think
I
think
you're
already
well,
on
your
way,
I
mean,
I
think,
in
a
sense,
you've
already
made
this
commitment
now
all
of
these
commitments,
the
resolutions
at
the
county
level
in
the
cities,
are
all
non-binding.
These
are
aspirational
goals
and
I
realize
especially
amongst
legislators,
sometimes
eyes
roll
big
deal
more
aspiration,
but
by
the
same
token
it
it
it.
G
It
focuses
the
mind
on
the
task
at
hand
if
it
can
truly
be-
and
this
is
where
this
board
can
can
help
to-
to
keep
it
always
that
lens
through
which
all
future
business
is
conducted.
It's
going
to
take
some
effort,
you
know
you
got
to
keep
it
from.
You
know
top
of
mind,
but
you
guys
are
well
on
your
way
already.
It's
it's
nice.
A
Yeah,
I
feel
like
ready
for
100
underscores
what
we've
done
and
what
we,
the
city,
is
continuing
to
do.
It
keeps
the
conversation
going.
I
I
guess,
and
I
think
we're
we
have
the
ability
here
and
because
sheridan
is
here.
If
I
don't
know,
I
I
I
don't
wanna
if
it's
the
wrong
place,
but
I
would
be
curious
to
know
if
she
has
any
sort
of
she
can
add
anything
to
this
discussion
in
terms
of
how
it
could
be
implemented.
H
Yeah,
so
I
mean
excellent
presentation,
excellent
points
I
will
say:
green
print
is
based
on
the
2018
ipcc
report.
As
dave
mentioned,
nothing
about
climate
science
is
static
and
we're
always
learning
more
so
that
2020
report
is
really
where
we're
like.
Okay,
actually,
things
need
to
be
elevated
to
be
carbon
neutral
and
zero
percent
by
2050.,
I
will
say
some
things
to
keep
in
mind.
H
Is
we
are
a
little
unique
as
a
municipality
compared
to
our
neighbors,
in
that
we
have
a
natural
gas
utility,
so
that
makes
the
conversation
a
little
more
complex
when
we're
talking
about
100,
clean
energy,
renewable
energy
goals,
and
what
does
that
look
like
for
that
department?
H
I
will
also
say
there
is
a
new
state
bill
that
challenges
our
ability
to
implement
clean
energy
goals,
not
necessarily
to
establish
them
so,
and
I've
talked
with
pinellas
county's
sustainability
coordinator
about
this
as
well.
I
was
surprised
to
see
pinellas
county
passed
their
resolution
after
that
state
bill
came
out
and
it
was
because
their
lawyers
interpreted
as
we
can
make
this
goal.
H
Does
the
state
bill
impact
our
ability
to
implement
it?
Maybe
so
the
new
state
bill
says
basically
along
the
lines
of
like
you,
can't
establish
clean
energy
goals
or
you
can't
implement
them.
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
hiccup
and
a
challenge
in
in
the
discussion
of
this.
I
will
say
in
in
regards
to
what
does
that
look
like
if
we
were
to
make
that
100
commitment?
It
would
really
be.
We
stay
on
the
same
path.
H
We
just
accelerate
it
so
already,
as
glenda
mentions
we're
looking
at
energy
efficiency
programs
within
our
municipal
operations,
we're
looking
at
solar
from
municipal
operations,
we're
also
heavily
working
with
the
solar,
united
neighbors
co-op
and
we're
looking
to
become
a
funding
partner
for
them
so
that
we
can
better
engage
our
residents
and
we're
also
starting
some
discussions
with
our
economic
development
and
housing
about
what
what
solar
options
are
there
for
low
income
and
can
the
city
be
involved
in
creating
some
kind
of
program
which
is
really
early
in
that
conversation.
H
So,
as
dave
mentioned
as
well,
just
like
climate
science
isn't
static,
the
ways
to
achieve
this
goal
aren't
static
and,
as
we
see
more
technology,
either
come
to
be
or
improve.
I
mean
we'll
gain
greater
clarity,
but
really
the
pathways
to
this
are
energy
efficiency
and
renewable
energy,
and
just
accelerating
that
yeah.
H
F
Also,
a
bill
that
is
eliminating
net
metering
for
for
residents
and
businesses
proposed.
F
It's
it's
heading
in
the
center
for
the
second
committee
first
committee
passed
it
and
hooper
is
on
the
second
committee
as
well
just
to
say-
and
you
know,
I'm
a
I'm
a
solar.
You
know
I'm
a
resident
with
rooftop
solar,
so
I
have
a
great
interest
in
this.
F
H
A
Thank
you
very
much,
okay.
I
I
don't
think
I
have
any
more
comments.
Does
anyone
on
the
board
have
any
more
comments
at
this
time?
Are
there
any
other
con?
Are
there
any
comments
from
the
audience.
D
G
Please
really
quickly
the
one
thing
that
sheridan
added
she
is
correct.
The
preemption
bills
last
year
were
a
big
worry.
We
did
not
know
what
they
meant.
They
did
pass.
The
one
thing
I
would
say
the
reason
we
proceeded
was
because
all
the
bill
call
sponsors
were
asked
and
and
said
verbatim.
G
This
will
not
prevent
100
clean
energy
goals.
What
these
preemption
bills
have
been
interpreted
as
broadly
is
taking
away
the
sticks.
We
still
have
the
carrots
we
can
pursue
clean
energy.
The
bill,
the
heart
and
soul
bill
is
that
you
cannot
prevent
any
other
fuel
source
from
from
from
conducting
business.
G
Honestly,
I,
though,
it's
it's
a
little
controversial.
Let's
say
that
in
clear
water
we'll
collect
clearwater
gas
lives,
a
big
part
of
solving
climate
crisis
is
weaning
ourselves
off
of
natural
gas
as
quickly
as
we
can
too.
We
just
have
to
it's
it's.
It's
got
a
huge
greenhouse
gas
footprint,
many
cities
and
states-
or
I
mean
this
pallies
around
the
country-
are
already
starting
to
say.
No
new
construction
can
include
natural
gas
piping.
G
All
new
buildings
will
be
electrified.
We
in
florida
now
cannot
do
that.
That's
that's
part
of
the
way
that
preemption
bill
hurt
us,
but
we're
still
full
steam
ahead.
We
still
can
pursue
this
for
our
own
purposes
as
municipalities
and,
of
course,
do
it
based
on
the
economics
of
it,
so
throw
that
in
there.
Thank
you.
A
I
appreciate
that
dave.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Yeah
we
can,
I
think
we
could
pass
our
support
for
ready
for
100.
and
and
move
that
to
the
city
council
to
them
here
and
and
look
at
and
then
they
would
have
to
take
up,
but
knowing
that
we
have
thrown
support
to
it.
If
that's
the
case,
did
we.
A
Well,
yeah,
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
something
that
I
think
we
can
we
can,
we
can
pass
create,
but
I
think
we'd
have
to
still
look
at
it
at
our
next
meeting.
You
know
to
to
make
sure
what
we
put
forward
is:
that's
how
I
would
do
it
is
we
can
we
can
discuss
how
we
want
to
move
forward
and
we
can
put
something
together
and
then
at
our
next
meeting
we
can.
We
can
pass
that
forward.
I
will
just
bring
up.
A
One
concern
I
do
have
is
our
board
is
made
up
of
people
who
are
members
of
sierra
club,
and
this
is
a
sierra
club
initiative.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
is
a
concern
that
we
have
to
have
legal
discuss
or
something
like
that
moving
forward.
Just
in
terms.
A
Whatever
you're,
you
know,
if
you're
affiliated
with
the
group
or
not
like
you
did
glenna,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
have
any
concerns
regarding
you.
A
A
I
do
agree,
and
it
sounds
like
our
board
is
in
support
of
these
initiatives.
It's
just
yeah,
if
that's
the
the
right
channel
to
move
it
forward.
Sarah.
E
A
Okay,
so
yeah,
if
we
want
to
make
a
motion
to
you,
know,
pass
the
resolution.
I
C
Make
a
motion
that
we
develop
a
resolution
for
the
council
that
we,
as
the
eo
eap,
support,
moving
towards
ready
for
100.
A
A
Yeah,
I
think,
I
think,
we're
all
in
favor.
E
A
A
I
Okay
good
afternoon,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
you
having
me
here.
My
name
is
mike
flanigan,
I'm
the
public
utilities
assistant
director
here
we're
going
to
speak
about
reclaimed,
water
and
wastewater
overflows.
In
particular,
we
distinguish
between
the
two
we're
going
to
kind
of
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
differences
between
the
two
and
some
of
the
impacts
with
it
enough.
I
I
Smart
cover
installation
which
may
not
make
much
sense
right
now,
but
we'll
talk
about
it,
we'll
go
through
it
and
kind
of
explain
what
that
is
and
how
that
impacts.
Us
we'll
also
talk
about
inflow
and
infiltration,
and
the
monitoring
program
with
that
and
the
tampa
bay
estuary
program
and
the
pinellas
county's
wastewater,
stormwater
partnership.
I
I
We
have
three
wastewater
facilities
that
treat
our
wastewater
here
at
the
the
city,
the
largest
one
being
the
northeast,
what
a
reclamation
facility
up
at
580
there,
the
second
largest
one
being
the
marshall
street
facility
and
the
third
one
being
the
east
facility,
which
is
our
smallest
facility,
the
reclaimed
water
system
is
permitted
for
12
mgd.
I
We
also
have
the
ability
to
transfer
3
million
gallons
a
day
to
pinellas
county.
Their
demand
is
actually
quite
a
bit
less
than
that,
but
we
have
the
ability
to
do
so
and
it's
contractual
as
well.
We
have
three
ground
storage
tanks
where
we
can
store
our
reclaimed
water
as
well:
5
million
gallon
storage
tanks.
So
this
kind
of
gives
you
an
idea
of
our
surface
area.
You
can
see
the
the
lines
there
in
purple.
I
One
of
the
things
is
worth
noting:
you
can
see
on
the
right
hand,
side
safety,
harbor.
We
do
treat
wastewater
from
safety
harbor,
but
it's
not
a
part
of
our
reclaimed
system
at
this
time.
We're
looking
at
areas
within
this
system
within
the
city
that
we
could
perhaps
try
to
expand
our
reclaimed
water
system.
I
I
Essentially,
it
is
that
none
of
the
facilities
within
the
state
can
put
fully
treated
effluent
from
a
wastewater
facility
into
a
surface
water
unless
they
meet
certain
criteria,
which
is
actually
some
of
those
criteria
is
actually
outlined
here
but
could
meet.
One
of
the
following.
This
discharge
is
associated
with
indirect
portable
reuse
project,
permitted,
wet
weather
discharge.
I
The
discharge
stormwater
is
a
and
is
later
withdrawn
for
irrigation.
The
facility
reused,
the
minimum
90
percent
of
its
flow
and
discharge
provides
direct
ecological
and
public
water
supply
benefits.
So
that's
some
of
the
criteria
that
are
exceptions
to
this
rule,
so
we'd
had
to
submit
our
plan.
We've
submitted
our
plan
to
the
state
where
they're
in
the
process
of
reviewing
it.
They
have
nine
months
to
review
our
plan.
I
I
So
we
took
a
different
approach
at
the
different
facilities
based
off
of
that,
it's
probably
good
to
mention
as
a
background
here
we
treat
each
basin
somewhat
separately.
We
have
the
marshall
street
side,
which
is
the
western
side,
and
then
we
have
northeast
and
east
is
somewhat
a
bit
more
combined
because
there's
a
one
pipe
that
connects
the
two
of
them
together.
I
So
this
portion
of
it
here
is
specific
to
marshall
street
and
some
of
the
things
that
the
approaches
that
we
can
take.
So
this
is
really
when
we
went
through
our
analysis
with
our
consultant.
These.
These
are
the
things
that
we
outline
and
we
try
to
take
a
stance
of
what
we
view
to
be
the
most
beneficial
and
then
went
down
from
there.
So
if
we
could
do
something,
do
something
most
beneficial,
that's
the
intent
of
where
we'd
like
to
go.
I
So
what
we
viewed
as
most
beneficial,
maybe
if
we
could
evaluate
the
beneficial
impacts,
the
receiving
body
being
stevenson
creek,
if
it's
beneficial
to
stevenson
creek,
we
would
like
to
put
the
effluent
in
stevenson's
creek
right
now,
we
put
out
of
the
marshall
street
facility
is
roughly
50
50.,
so
50
percent
of
the
flow
goes
into
the
reuse
system
is
used
as
reclaimed
water.
Another
50
percent
currently
goes
into
stevenson
creek.
I
I
The
next
step
would
be
decrease,
total
surface
water
discharge
to
10,
and
then
the
the
final
step
will
be
to
deep,
well
inject
or
aquifer
storage
and
recovery,
which
we
viewed
as
of
these
options.
From
our
standpoint,
we
viewed
as
the
least
beneficial,
so
our
intention
is
to
kind
to
go
that
direction:
okay,
the
northeast
wrf
and
the
east
wrf.
I
So
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
different
system.
We
have
less
reuse
there,
so
our
goal
would
be
to
potentially
increase
reuse
as
much
as
possible,
either
on
our
own
within
the
city
or
with
our
partners.
We
mentioned
earlier
that
pinellas
county
were
permitted
and
we're
allowed
to
give
them
3
million
gallons
a
day,
if
there's
a
possibility
for
us
to
do
so,
we'd
like
to
do
so,
but
they
face
the
same
constraints
that
we
do
as
part
of
the
issue.
The
constraints
are
with
reuse
primarily
is.
I
Is
that
when
it
rains
customers
don't
want
reuse,
we
have
an
abundance
of
reuse
that
we
essentially
can't
do
anything
with
when
it's
drier.
Everyone
wants
reuse
and
we
don't
have
it
because
everyone
wants
it.
So
that's
really
the
issues
that
we
have
to
be
honest
with
you
with
the
reus
compounding
that
issue
is
when
we're
working
with
another
entity.
They
have
the
same
constraints
so
for
us
to
work
with
them.
It's
a
challenge.
I
F
I
No
that's
great!
So
right
now
we
have
our
our
wastewater
facilities
that
we
mentioned
earlier.
The
marshall
street
facility
has
an
outfall,
so
essentially,
what
it
is
is
it
has
a
pipe
of
water
that
goes
into
stevenson,
creek
that
that
water
is
fully
treated
it.
It.
E
E
Water
from
a
wastewater
treatment,
so
surface
water-
they're-
not
it's
not
classified
as
that.
Yet
so
it's
it's!
Your
lakes,
creeks
streams
ponds.
All
of
that
is
a
surface
water,
so
the
discharge
from
the
plant
goes
into
the
surface
water
as
opposed
to
the
deep.
Well
injection
would
go
into
a
ground
water.
So
it's
just
a
clarification
as
to
where
the
water
from
the
plant
would
go
and
the.
E
E
E
D
Of
discharge
to
like
10
or
whether
it's
30
percent
is
that
annual
monthly
daily?
How
was
that.
I
It's
annual
and
that's
actually,
yes,
it
is,
it
is
annual
and
it's
it's
without
getting
too
far
into
the
weeds,
see
the
issue
that
ties
into
the
the
question
with
with
the
reuse
as
far
as
the
different
times
of
the
years
and
the
issues
that
we
have
with
that.
I
C
I
The
the
florida
state
legislators
had
said
that
we
can't
essentially,
so
I
think,
a
lot
of
the
view
of
that
and
again,
you
know
I'll
leave
my
opinions
aside.
I
A
lot
of
the
view
of
that
is
that
it's
we're
going
to
get
into
with
with
the
nutrients
in
old,
tampa
bay
and
things
of
that
nature.
I
don't
know
how
much
sorry
I
was
trying
to
find
the
slide
as
we're
speaking
about
it.
I
don't
know
how
much
contributing
factor
it
is
or
not.
I
know
that
our
facilities
in
terms
of
total
nitrogen
we're
permitted
for
three
micrograms
per
liter.
We
have
about
one.
I
know
plenty
of
other
facilities
that
you
know
aren't
meeting
20.
I
E
So,
just
to
put
my
little
two
cents
in
there,
if
you
water,
your
lawn
with
clear
waters,
reclaim
water
generally,
you
do
like
generally,
people
can
put
fertilizer
on
their
lawn
at
the
same
time,
whereas,
if
you're
in
saint
pete,
they
recommend
that
you
use
a
heck
of
a
lot
less
fertilizer,
because
their
reclaimed
water
has
a
lot
more
nitrogen
in
it
than
ours
does,
and
so
it's
like
every
plant
has
a
different
little
makeup
of
it,
and
so
ours
is
really
good
better
than
theirs.
C
C
I
To
to
some
degree,
we
so
there's
different
types
of,
and
I
don't
want
to
get
too
far
to
the
wastewater
facilities,
there's
different
types
of
wastewater
treatment
facilities.
We
operate
five-stage,
bargain-hole
processes
with
the
intention
of
removing
the
nitrate
and
phosphorus
when
it
comes
into
the
facility,
depending
upon
the
ph
it's
either
ammonia
ammonium
and
through
our
process
we
converted
into
nitrite
into
nitrate,
and
we
remove
a
fair
amount
of
the
nitrate.
I
We
do
still
have
some
organic
nitrogen
left
in
it
and
we
do
still
have
a
small
amount
of
that
nitrate
left
in
it
at
the
end.
But
it's
coming
in
orders
of
magnitude,
far
greater
it's
coming
in
20
around
that
range,
so
we
remove
it
down
to
get
it
down
to
about
one
because,
depending
upon
the
form
of
the
the
nitrogen,
if
it's
the
ammonia,
it's
toxic,
the
nitrate,
blue
babies,
all
sorts
of
different
other
issues
associated
with
it.
I
In
addition
to
these
excessive
algae,
bloom
possibilities
and
all
these
other
things
that
are
associated
with
that,
so
really
a
portion
of
our
intent
other
than
removing
the
carbon
and
some
of
the
other
things
that
were
moving
through
our
facility
is
to
try
and
decrease
that
nitrogen
and
remove
that
nitrogen.
Okay.
Thank
you.
I
Okay,
so
house
bill
53
is
a
little
bit
different
than
we're
just
talking
about,
but
it's
also
important
in
the
same
regard,
because
we're
really
want
to
get
into
we're
talking
about
the
spills-
and
some
of
this
is
tied
into
that
and
that's
why
a
lot
of
this
information
is
being
provided
as
a
requirement
with
house
house
bill.
53
we're
required
to
do
a
20-year
needs
analysis.
I
This
doesn't
get
into
all
the
details,
but
within
our
collection
system,
we're
essentially
required
to
do
all
these
different
types
of
steps
to
ensure
that
we're
doing
what
we
need
to
do
to
upkeep
our
collection
system.
So
this
is
to
assist
maybe
some
of
those
organizations
that
aren't
doing
as
strong
of
a
job
doing
this
already.
I
And
there's
a
schedule,
that's
associated
with
that,
and
we're
very
hopeful
that,
because
june
30th
2022
is
when
ftp
wants
us
to
submit
a
document
that
they
haven't,
provided
us
the
template
to
yet
so
we're
very
hopeful
that
we
get
this
template
soon
and
we're
able
to
get
this
document
completed
and
if
it's
anything
that
looks
like
the
stormwater
one,
it
shouldn't
take
too
much
for
us
to
get
it
going.
I
Given
we
already
have
much
of
this
information,
so
there
was
a
change
to
a
regulatory
change
that
impacted
us
historically
for
reporting
of
spills
we
always
up
until
about
2015.
The
guidance
was
that
you
would
report
a
spell
that
was
greater
than
a
thousand
gallons.
I
think
that
maybe
there
were
some
bad
actors,
it
was
all
looks
like
999.,
so
it
kind
of
went
to
you
report
everything,
so
it
got
to
where
you
know.
I
I
That
has
changed
recently
with
this
legislative
change
to
where
right
now
we
currently,
we
report
all
the
wastewater
spills,
regardless
of
the
volume
within
24
hours,
meeting
the
criteria,
but
our
reuse
spills
less
than
a
thousand
gallons.
We
don't
report
unless
they
reach
a
surface
water,
because
that's
a
little
bit
different.
We
handle
that
differently
with.
If
we
reach
the
surface
water,
we
still
keep
the
thousand
gallons.
I
I
know
that
some
other
organizations
I've
learned
today,
some
of
our
colleagues,
if
it's,
if
it
happens
in
a
park
and
stays
in
the
park,
they
don't
report
it
right
away.
We
just
report
the
monthly
and
say
this
happened,
the
reefs
that
was
supposed
to
go
in
the
park
with
the
park
or
whatever
it
might
be.
I
Okay,
so
now,
when
we
start
talking
getting
into
the
more
of
the
collection
system,
we
just
talked
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
regulatory
changes
that
were
associated
with
it,
we're
using
different
technology.
Now
that
wasn't
available
to
us
in
the
past
to
get
an
idea
of
we
mentioned
more
before
about
reuse
and
the
rainfall
events
and
the
impacts
of
it.
You
know
we
have
a
lot
more
rainfall
people,
don't
our
water
under
the
lawn.
I
So
we're
using
this
smart
cover
technology,
which
manhole
cover
mounted
level
sensor.
Data
has
the
antenna
and
the
transmitter
which
actually
rests
on
the
top
of
it,
and
it's
real-time
data,
evaluation,
trending
and
alarms.
So
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
details
of
it.
You
can
actually
see
it
on
here.
If
you
look
on
the
right
hand,
side
there,
there
is
the
antenna
and,
on
the
left,
hand
side.
You
see
that
this
is
the
gentleman
from
smart
cover,
he's
installing
it
that's
a
battery
and
it's
a
transducer.
I
That's
going
to
give
us
an
idea
of
what
the
level
is
in
that
manhole,
so
you
can
kind
of
get.
You
can
kind
of
see
it
through
this
picture
right
here.
This
picture
is
of
1219
south
ford
fort
harrison
and
there's
a
manhole
number
that's
associated
with
that.
So
you
can
kind
of
see
that
it
gives
you
an
idea.
I
I
Well,
the
intention
is
is
that
we
have
certain
areas.
That's
a
great
question.
Thank
you.
The
intention
is
that
we
have
these
areas
that
are
kind
of
hot
spots
for
us
that
we
know
where
we
have
issues,
and
our
goal
is
to
primarily
put
them
in
these
hot
spots,
where
we're
likely
to
have
issues
just
so.
We
can
monitor
and
know
when
we're
having
issues
essentially
before
we
have
issues
yeah.
I
I
Because
those
actually
just
are
those
are
monitoring
the
rain
level.
We
were
talking
about
the
the
rain
level,
so
that's
monitoring
how
much
rainfall
we
have
in
those
areas
and
these
the
the
green
circles
will
actually
when
we
have
an
issue
in
addition
to
I'll
get
an
email
when
it
reaches
a
level.
We
have
other
employees
that
they'll
actually
get
a
ping
on
their
phone
or
let
them
know
when
that's
happening
and
they'll
be
able
to
respond
to
to
that
location
and
trying
to
determine
what
the
issue
is
and
try
and
correct
the
issue.
I
A
lot
of
the
factors
that
we're
using
right
now
is
historical
knowledge,
there's
other
factors
that
are
actually
we're
going
to
get
into,
and
some
of
the
coming
slides
as
to
what
we're
looking
at
as
possibilities
of
how
we
could
put
these
different
locations.
But
at
this
point
we've
really
identified
these
locations
based
off
of
just
where
we
knew
were
issues
that
we've
dealt
with
in
the
past.
So
if
we've
had
a
spill
event
there
in
the
past,
we've
had
two
or
something
like
that.
I
We
would
definitely
know
that
that
would
be
a
location
we
want
to
put
one
or
upstream
of
that.
F
So
the
the
round,
dots
are
those
actual
manhole
cover
indicator
locations
or.
I
So
if
you
click
on
it,
where
it
says
map
right
here
it
actually
you
can't
really
see.
But
it's
obviously
you
can't
click
on
the
presentation.
But
if
you
click
on
where
it
says
map
right
there,
this
is
the
map
and
and
on
the
left
hand
side.
You
can't
see
because
that
just
like
the
screenshot
of
it,
it
shows
all
the
locations
of
where
they
are,
and
you
can
just
click
on
each
individual
one.
C
I
Yeah,
you
can
tell
you
see
that
you
see
the
right
hand
side.
You
know,
you
know
you
drive
over
the
in
the
road
in
the
middle
there
they
have
the
yellow.
I
forgot.
I.
I
I
I
I
They
they
know
we
would
come
out
and
respond
to
it.
It
actually
in
the
alarm
that
that
richard
mentioned
by
the
this
rich
bargain
director,
the
the
alarm
that
actually
comes
up
with
that
will
will
let
you
know
that
it's
above
the
the
sensor
is
above
the
antenna
it
it
because
that's
when
we
went
out
there
this
morning,
where
we
pulled
one
of
them,
that's
exactly.
I
Okay,
so
you
can
kind
of
see
actually
there's
a
there's,
your
question
there,
you
can
see
kind
of
see
it
doesn't
won't
have
that
green
warning
label
on
there
at
least
the
ones
that
that
we
have
don't.
But
you
would
see
that
green
reflector
there
on
top
of
it,
okay,
so
it's
kind
of
a
segue
into
what
you
were
just
speaking
of
with
the
with
the
flow
monitoring.
I
We
also
do
flow
monitoring
as
well,
so
the
meters
can
kind
of
trigger
some
areas
and
things
that
we
need
to
look
at
again,
usually
with
associated
rainfall
events
and
give
us
some
ideas
of
areas
we
may
need
to
have
to
rehabilitate,
or
at
least
look
at
further
and
shows.
It
will
also
show
the
effectiveness
of
improvements
that
we
make
based
off
of
this
flow
monitoring.
I
So
it's
kind
of
good
for
again,
like
I
just
mentioned,
for
evaluating,
dry
and
wet
weather
conditions,
and
it's
done
using
different
devices
and
rain
gauges
and
such
so.
This
is
some
of
the
areas
that
we're
flow
monitoring
right
now,
along
with
right
beer.
So
I
didn't
mention
that
that
we
had
the
consultant
that
we're
working
with
in
the
bottom
there's
right
pierce.
I
So
these
are
some
of
the
areas
that
we,
in
conjunction
with
them,
are
monitoring
and
they're.
Doing
some
statistical
research
here
on
the
the
right
hand,
column
there,
you
can
kind
of
see
the
items
that
are
in
red,
so
those
are
some
areas
of
concern.
I
That's
just
causing
water
to
get
into
our
system
that
could
potentially
cause
overflows
or
different
issues
within
our
system,
so
again
determine
problem
areas
for
sanitary
rehabilitation,
shows
through
rehabilitation,
improvement,
effectiveness
and
determine
the
capacity
capacity
of
the
existing
system
and
whether
upgrades
are
needed.
So
it's
it's
a
constant
battle
with
aging
infrastructure
we
just
we
always
are
trying
to
stay
ahead
of
it.
To
be
honest
with
you,.
I
Okay,
the
tampa
bay
estuary
program
so
tampa
the
nitrogen
excuse
me:
the
nitrogen
management
consortium,
restoration,
research,
education,
data,
visualization
library
of
decades
of
resource
research.
So
we
kind
of
mentioned
a
little
bit
earlier
and
that's
part
of
why
we're
talking
a
little
bit
about
the
facilities
and
the
nitrogen
and
some
of
the
different
things
that
are
going
on
there.
You
know
really.
Our
intention
is
to
try
and
as
we
as
we
send
the
water
into
the
surface.
Water
is
to
lower
that
nitrogen
content
as
well.
I
So
there's
some
different
avenues
associated
with
that
so
again,
nutrient
management,
algal
blooms,
quite
a
bit
of
work
in
old,
tampa
bay,
identify
and
understand,
emerging
contaminants
and
contaminants
of
concern
reduce
potential
pathogen
contamination
that
could
potentially
be
entering
the
water
body,
whether
it
be
through
our
facilities
or
through
a
private
system
or
something
of
that
nature.
I
So
that's
really.
The
intention
of
a
lot
of
our
facilities
is
to
try
and
do
that.
This
is
just
a
brief
snapshot.
I
was
kind
of
mentioning,
and
actually
sarah
john
didn't
thank
you
with
that.
Sarah.
That
kind
of
gives
you
an
idea
of
those.
That's
our
total
nitrogen
leaving
our
facility,
so
it's
actually
exceedingly
low.
I
That's
each
plant,
so
each
of
our
facilities,
the
our
total
nitrogen
levels
for
each
facility.
I
That
again
so-
and
I'm
glad
you
asked
that
I
intended
to
do
that
earlier-
I
didn't
so
an
sso
is
kind
of
short
and
it's
that's
a
term
from
the
state
for
sanitary
sewage
overflow,
so
when
they
call
that
that
that
is
a
very
broad
term,
so
that
could
mean
a
spill
of
wastewater.
I
It
could
be
a
spill
of
like
I
was
mentioning
for
fully
treated
wastewater
where
it's
essentially
it's
the
same
water
that
we're
using
irrigated
lawns.
But
yet
it's
viewed
as
a
spill.
So
in
some
instances
it's
viewed
as
this
awful
thing
that's
built
on
the
floor,
but
in
the
same
or
it
could
be,
it
could
also
mean
that
wow.
This
is
great.
I
This
is
beneficial
you're,
probably
on
the
floor,
so
it's
kind
of
confusing
the
term,
but
it's
it's
really
whether
you
intended
to
put
on
the
floor
or
not,
and
that's
really
kind
of
how
how
we've
gotten
there
with
that.
I
My
perspective,
but
if
you're
putting
into
a
let's
say,
you're
putting
into
a
body
of
water
and
it's
it's
highly
chlorinated
effluent,
so
you're
essentially
putting
large
amounts
of
chlorine
into
a
body
of
water.
You
know
you
could
damage
the
aquatic
life,
so
in
those
instances
would
be
bad.
You
know,
whereas
when
we
go
and
put
our
effluent
into
surface
water,
we
dechlorinate
take
that
chlorine
out,
but
that
would
also
be
a
spill.
So
it's
there's
kind
of
it's
a
very
broad
term.
Okay
and
that's
the
challenge
with
it.
A
Yeah,
of
course,
I'm
curious,
I'm
looking
at
specifically
the
marshall
street
there's.
I
Of
course,
so,
there's
again,
we
were
talking
earlier
about
seasonality,
there's
a
lot
of
seasonality
with
nitrogen,
just
like
ourselves
when
our
bodies
swing
temperature.
Hopefully
we
don't,
but
let's
say
you
know,
one
of
us
got
the
flu
or
something
like
that.
If
we
got
that
you
know
our
temperature
is
going
to
shoot
way
up.
We
don't
feel
well
things
like
that.
Well,
we
have
microorganisms
that
essentially
do
the
work
in
our
facility.
I
We
just
we
take
what
happens
biologically
out
there
in
the
world
and
we
kind
of
speed
up
the
process
and
make
it
work
work
to
our
favor.
We
create
conditions,
do
different
things
in
different
tanks
that
help
us
do.
We
need
to
do
well,
these
microorganisms
in
cold
weather,
don't
really
react
very
well
they're
kind
of
cold
and
they
don't
want
to
move
around
a
lot.
They
don't
want
to
do
a
lot
and
really
that's
essentially
typically
what
it
is
when
you
have
issues
with
nitrogen.
A
I
They
it
it's
it's
partially
to
do
with
that
parsley
to
do
with
what
I'm
just
saying
again,
and
it's
partially,
due
with
honestly
the
influence
that
comes
into
them
all
these
facilities,
you
know
have
different
things
that
impact
them
like
like
a
brewery
or
something
that's
gonna
have
a
large
or
an
orange
cheese
plants,
can
have
a
really
large
impact
on
a
facility,
as
opposed
to
one
that's
just
has
redemption
residential
customers
is
gonna,
have
different
impacts
as
well,
so
partially
it
has
to
do
with
what's
coming
into
the
facility
and
it
partially
that
even
comes
with
you
know
the
alkalinity
of
the
water
in
your
water
system
and
that's
coming
back
in
that's
going
to
impact
how
these
microorganisms
react.
I
I
We're
not
using
waste
energy,
we
do
have
anaerobic
digestion,
we
do
have
a
methane
by-product,
there's
there's
some
contractual
things
where
we
may
have
the
ability
to
to
do
that
in
the
future.
So
there
is
some
background
there
with
that,
but
it's
not
at
this
time.
K
I
Read
it
yeah,
actually,
the
the
whole
intention
of
why
I
put
this
slide
up
here
is
to
show
how
well
we're
doing,
because
it's
to
me
where
I
had
worked
previously,
you
know
we
were
permitted
for
10
parts
per
million
we
ran
roughly
around
eight
is
where
we
were.
We
had
some
instances
where
we're
pretty
close
to
ten,
but
we
also
had
a
different
discharge,
so
it
goes
again
speaking
to
the
facilities
so
yeah.
I
And
the
wastewater
stormwater
partnership,
so
the
the
goals
of
this
to
avoid
spills
overflows
releases
sewage
in
the
fire,
particularly
water
bodies.
Again,
that's
really
entirely
what
most
my
goals
are:
increased
capacity
and
resiliency
of
collective
sewer
systems,
wastewater
treatment
infrastructure
and
seek
opportunities,
address
drainage,
stormwater
issues
that
impact
sewer
systems.
So
this
is
a
collective
partnership
with
the
city
of
clearwater
and
other
entities
to
try
and
meet
these
shared
goals.
F
F
She
wanted
to
know
she
lives
in
the
valencia
park,
cedar
grove
area
and
they're
being
evaluated
right
now
for
repaving
of
their
roads,
and
she
is
interested
in
the
smoke
test.
That's
being
done,
could
you
talk
about
the
smoke
test?
I
mean
that's
happening
in
clearwater
and
like
what
are
the
priorities
on
where
you
do
that,
and
when
do
you
have
a
schedule
or.
I
Yeah,
so
so
we
actually
have
a
consultant
that
we're
working
with
on
that
we
actually
have
a
collection
system,
master
plan
so
and
part
of
that.
Actually,
to
be
honest
with
you
part
of
that
ties
into
into
this
as
well,
so
this
is
going
to
identify
areas
that
we
want
to
smoke
test,
because
when
we
look
and
we
see
different
issues
with
the
flows,
we
see
a
lot
of
influence
infiltration.
That
gives
us
an
idea
that
maybe
there's
a
hole
or
something
in
our
system
that
we
need
to
look
at
so
this
route.
I
This
slide
really
in
itself,
really
speaks
to
that
question
very
well,
because
we
try
and
monitor
the
system.
We
try
and
say
well.
This
area
is
of
greatest
concern.
This
is
another
area
of
concern
and
part
of
that
too.
We
rely
on
our
personnel
because
our
personnel
they're
out
there
every
day,
they're
working
with
they
know
where
a
lot
of
the
issues
are
so
we're
partially
relying
on
them.
In
addition
to
this,
to
help
us
with
prioritizing
these
areas
and
try
and
work
through
them
again,
it's
still,
it's
always
a
concern.
F
What
what
are
the
pipes
made
of?
Are
they
iron.
I
It
varies:
okay,
yes,
some
of
them
are.
Some
of
them
were
pvc,
the
polyvinyl,
so
it
really
varies.
I
That's
typically
older.
F
I
A
Or
paper
roof
roof
tar
paper
too
it.
C
Yeah
orange
bite
yeah-
I
just
had
that
replaced
last
year.
Yeah
yeah
forgive
my
ignorance,
but
what
is
the
smoke
test.
I
F
K
D
F
A
F
I
F
Do
you
coordinate
that
with
the
city
in
terms
of
in
you
know,
traffic
engineering,
like
you
know,.
A
Other
questions
I'm
curious:
if
there's
any
plans,
you
mentioned
increasing
capacity,
converting
more
septic
to
sewer.
Are
there
any
plans
for
more
projects
throughout
the
city
for
for
that
are
getting
more
people
off
septic
tanks?
Well,.
I
I
know
that
part
of
that
discussion
has
to
deal
with
just
moving
down
here
to
the
wastewater
stormwater
partnership.
Some
of
the
areas
where
there
are
septic
systems
are
actually
unincorporated
pinellas
county.
So
some
of
that
has
to
deal
with
this
with
this
partnership
and
identifying
what
areas
are
there
is
what
areas
are
ours
and
what
areas
we
can
do
that
they're
actually
meeting
on
friday-
and
I
know
that
that's
a
discussion
topic
that
does
get
brought
up-
that
working
through
those
types
of
items
so.
K
We
have
the
septic
to
sewer
conversions
on
our
on
our
cip
list
they're
out
in
the
future,
but
we're
looking.
Can
we
move
them
up
somewhat?
We
have
a
list
and
it's
been
prioritized.
We
just
want,
and
one
of
the
things
that
our
department
is
put
in
for
the
harp
of
funds
is
hey.
Can
we
do
some
of
these
septic
to
sewer
projects
soon
so
yeah
we're
trying
to
move
them
up.
A
No,
that's
great.
I
live
in
a
neighborhood
that
was,
I
think,
one
of
the
last
septic
to
sewer
projects,
one
of
the
larger
ones
that
the
city
did
quite
a
few
years
ago,
and
I
think
there
were
a
lot
of
challenges
with
that
that,
but
hopefully
you
guys
can
get
them
back
on.
I
Yeah,
I
believe
the
last
one
I
had
seen
was
roughly
around
2016.
yeah.
I
I
Yeah
well,
honestly,
we'd
rather
them
use
our
system
anyway,
because
we
we
know
we
do
and
we
believe
from
our
view.
We
do
it
well,
so
I'm
not
I'd
have
to
get
back
with
you
to
be
honest
with
you,
yeah.
A
I
know
saint
pete
started
or
was
trying
to
create
a
program
to
serve
even
look
at
on
sanitary
lines
to
see
for
replacement
because
they
have
such
a
pipe
in
a
lot
of
those
places.
So,
but
I
thought
there
were
some
questions
in
terms
of
going
into
people's
yards,
but,
like
you
said
the
the
title,
the
transfer
like
things
like
that.
Maybe
there's
some
opportunity
to
ensure
that
those
systems
are
working
properly.
D
I
B
A
Right
any
comments
from
the
audience
all
right,
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
item:
4.4,
a
presentation
about
green
fleet
program.
H
H
H
We
discussed
a
lot
in
that
meeting
that
I'll,
try
and
cover
briefly,
so
we
discussed
the
target
goals
that
are
set
by
the
green
fleet
policy.
To
reiterate,
that's
that
we
are
not
going
to
purchase
new
internal
combustion
vehicles,
not
including
hybrids,
but
solely
internal
combustion
vehicles
for
light
duty
fleet
by
2027.
H
H
We
discuss
helpful
interim
targets
to
help
meet
those
goals,
most
logically
of
which
is
50
of
our
light.
Duty
fleet
should
be
transitioned
by
2030
and
then
75
is,
alternatively
fueled
by
2035.
H
Say
please
can't
write
that
fast,
so
these
are
interesting
targets
to
help
meet
those
goals
so
50
by
2030
and
75
by
2035.
H
We
did
discuss
that
these
last
two
goals
that
I
mentioned,
not
the
first
two
that
are
required
in
the
policy.
The
last
two
will
be
guiding
targets
to
gauge
progress
rather
than
binding
commitments,
because
it's
going
to
depend
on
the
department
that's
eight
years,
some
departments
will
have
a
very
easy
time
meeting
that
goal.
H
We
also
it
would
not
be
in
a
sustainably
sustainability
interest
to
needlessly
replace
perfectly
fine
vehicles.
So
you
know
again
we
reiterated
our
commitment
to
as
our
fleet
ages
out
replacing
them
as
they
come
about
on
average.
We
keep
our
vehicles
for
about
eight
years,
so
it
does
help
us
in
that
regard,
and
we
did
discuss
that.
There
are
some
departments,
like
our
police
department
that
will,
for
the
time
being
remain
mostly
with
hybrids
until
electric
vehicles
have
developed
enough
that
they
can
provide
a
continual
level
of
service
that
the
police
department
currently
requires.
H
However,
for
their
admin
vehicles
and
other
departments
with
administrative
vehicles
that
will
be
an
easier
transition
to
electric
in
the
short
term.
Now,
in
the
long
term,
I
think
we're
going
to
see
and
we're
already
seeing
the
battery
capacity
expand
greatly,
and
the
amount
of
mild
mileage
that
you
can
get
off
of
one
charge
is
probably
going
to
greatly
increase
that
we've
already
seen.
H
We
have
to
get
charging
stations
in
order
to
purchase
electric
vehicles,
so
we
have
a
list
of
where
all
city
vehicles
stay
overnight
and
we'll
plan
charging
stations
and
locations
based
on
that
list,
we're
going
to
determine
the
ratio
of
charging
stations
to
fleet
vehicles
that
will
stay
there
currently
there's
a
little
bit
of
debate,
and
so
we'll
probably
see
what
works
best
for
us.
We
see
the
city
of
largo
recommends.
H
One
dual
port
charger
for
every
four
vehicles
that
are
ebs
and
but
then,
when
we
talk
to
some
providers
like
charge
points,
they
say
that
you
can
get
really.
You
know
one
dual
port
for
every
eight
vehicles.
It's
really
going
to
depend
on
how
frequently
those
vehicles
are
used
and
what
they're
doing
so
it
may
you
know
that
ratio
may
change
based
on
department
and.
H
We're
only
looking
at
level
two
level,
two
yeah
that
makes
the
most
sense
for
us
it's
most
economical.
It
would
best
suit
our
needs.
Our
charging
needs
as
well,
and
that's
what
we
see
is
pretty
much
the
norm
across
municipalities
now
when
we
get
into
further
down
the
line,
if
we
did
need
some
fast
charging
capabilities
for
our
police
department,
that's
when
we
might,
but
the
technology
might
look
very
different
at
that
point
from
the
battery
capacity.
H
Let's
see
so,
we
are
interested
and
we've
gotten
direction
from
our
city
manager
to
start
either
with
our
parking
enforcement
or
code
enforcement
vehicles
due
to
the
local
nature
of
their
work
and
the
potential
of
high
public
visibility.
So
we
definitely
want
to
include
vehicle
wraps
in
this
to
make
sure
that
the
public
is
aware
not
only
to
pat
ourselves
on
the
back,
but
also
to
make
it
more
visible
that
this
transition
is
absolutely
happening
not
just
for
your
city
but
for
the
industry
as
a
whole.
C
H
Yeah,
so
we
define
light
duty
as
anything,
that's
smaller
than
a
three-fourth
of
a
ton
truck,
so
anything
that
would
yeah.
I
I'm
the
same
way
anything
that
would
be
under
that
would
be
required.
A
The
beach
vehicles
like
their
their
gas,
what's
the
time
frame
or
what
are
they
looking
at
in
terms
of
changing
those
over?
That's
really
high
visibility.
There.
H
H
Enforcement
code
yeah
those
are
the
ones
that
we're
gonna
start
looking
at
in
more
depth.
You
said
as
electric,
not
hybrid
as
electric
electric
for
those
yeah.
Thankfully
I
mean
we've
been
doing
work
to
progress
towards
hybrids.
Even
before
we
had
this
green
fleet
policy
even
before
greenprint,
our
fleet
manager
has
done
an
excellent
job
and
not
only
knew
the
transition
was
coming,
but
he's
looking
forward
to
it.
H
We
were,
unfortunately,
because
of
coveted
numbers.
It's
been
canceled,
but
we
are
going
to
plan
it,
hopefully
for
february,
if
not
march,
but
with
the
southern
alliance
for
clean
energy,
we're
going
to
have
a
test
drive
event
for
a
tesla,
that's
only
for
city
staff
and
we're
gonna
we're
having
it
at
a
location,
that's
more
central
to
our
departments
that
are
operationally
heavy
and
we'll
be.
I
will
be
targeting
those
departments
and
really
hoping
that
they
come
out
and
test
drive.
H
Those
vehicles
so
and
finally,
we
discussed
finite
financing
mechanisms
for
electric
vehicles.
Specifically,
there
is
a
really
innovative
approach
of
leasing
that
has
proved
really
beneficial
for
our
neighboring
municipalities.
H
Most
recently,
tarpon
springs
has
trended
out
and
what
it
looks
like
is
you
lease
the
evs
through
a
third-party
company
and
that
allows
the
city
to
take
advantage
of
the
tax.
The
federal
tax
credit
for
evs
from
tarpon
springs,
they've,
seen
as
well
as
what
is
winter
park,
they've
seen
that
they're
able
to
purchase
or
acquire
two
evs
for
the
price
of
one
and
in
some
instances
that's
actually
three
not
for
tarpon
springs,
but
for
renter
park.
They've
had
three
for
the
price
of
one.
H
A
H
We
know
to
expect
fuel
savings,
it's
going
to
be
different
based
on
the
vehicle
and
based
on
how
the
individual
uses
the
vehicle,
not
meaning,
how
quickly
they're
driving
but
more
like
what
are
the
operational
needs
that
that
vehicle
is
using.
But
we
know
you
know,
one
of
the
conversations
we
had
is
well.
What
is
our
overall
goal?
C
Going
back
to
our
earlier
conversation
about
ready
for
100
and
the
green
plan
and
the
recommendations
to
accelerate
it.
Looking
at
your
time
frames
of,
if
I
interested
you
correctly
by
2040
100
of
the
lightweight
vehicles,
how
does
that
time
frame
fit
within
ex
what
we
saw?
The
presentation
for
the
sierra
club
about
the
world
being
on
fire.
H
Yeah,
I
mean
so
from
a
light
duty
perspective.
It's
great,
however,
there's
our
heavy
duty
vehicles
and
the
reason
that
we're
not
including
heavy
duty
in
this
yet
is
we
do
not
have
the
market
for
those
vehicles
yet
they're,
just
not
available
to
us.
It's
really
even
difficult
to
plan
for
their
conversion
at
this
state,
just
because
they're,
almost
in
prototype
form
where
we're
seeing
some
cities
in
the
north
and
in
california
use
them.
H
For
instance,
I
talked
to
our
fire
chief
today
and
he
was
really
excited
because
there
are
now
three
companies
that
are
producing
and
trying
out
electric
fire
trucks,
but
still
it's
very
early
in
the
game,
so
at
least
for
the
for,
if
it's
ready
for
100
by
2050,
you
know,
there's
still
a
lot
of
time
for
those
vehicles
to
come
to
market
and
for
us
to
create
this
policy
and
try
and
match
what
our
city
goals
are.
H
H
I
think
for
us
it's
what
we're
most
comfortable
with,
especially
with
not
yet
having
an
electric
vehicle
and
with
electric
vehicles
now
entering
the
market
at
a
rapid
rate.
I
think
you
know
the
2040
goal
is
excellent
and
the
reason
I
was
really
happy
that
the
2027
goal
happens
is
to
really
make
sure
that
we're
going
to
progress,
progress
towards
that.
H
Yes,
okay,
yeah
and
one
exciting
thing
as
well
is
audubon.
Florida
has
put
together
a
cohort
of,
I
believe,
usf
students,
so
we
previously
did
a
greenhouse
gas
inventory
of
our
entire
community
and
we're
going
to
work
with
them.
They're
going
to
now
calculate
our
just
municipal
operations,
so
it
was
included
in
the
previous
inventory,
but
it
wasn't
spelled
out
so
we'll
have
a
greater
knowledge
of
the
specifics
of
our
own
fleet
and
what
they're
emitting.
H
Yes,
so
we
are-
and
I
probably
will
I
was
going
to
say
this
at
the
end,
we
have
two
new
sustainability
positions
that
were
completed.
Our
interviews
for
the
first
is
what
you're
aware
of
the
innovation
and
energy
officer,
and
the
second
is
a
sustainability
specialist.
The
specialist
role
will
be
all
about
public
outreach
and
education,
as
well
as
data
collection
and
maintaining
a
interactive
website
that
actively
reports
where
we're
at
with
our
greenhouse
gas
inventory,
where
we're
at
with
our
city,
electricity,
consumption,
water
consumption.
H
H
Already
completed
interviews
for
both
I'm
less
plugged
into
the
innovation
and
energy
officer
interviews,
I
know
that
they're
completed
and
we
did
just
complete
our
interviews
for
the
sustainability
specialists,
and
these
will
both
be
in
your
office.
H
H
Yeah
yeah,
community
and
staff,
so
you
know
with
greenprint
having
the
first
section
of
education
and
outreach.
It's
not.
It
didn't
just
happen
that
way.
It's
because
it's
the
most
important
and
in
order
to
have
a
community
that
really
buys
into
what
we're
trying
to
achieve.
Otherwise,
it's
not
possible
right
now
with
trying
to
get
some
of
the
green
print
strategies
implemented.
I
haven't
had
as
much
time
to
do
the
public
outreach,
that's
really
critical,
and
so
this
position
we're
interviewing
people
that
have
that
background.
That's
awesome.
A
Thank
you
very
much
any
other
questions
from
the
board.
Any
questions
from
the
audience
all
right.
We'll
move
on
to
our
next
item
then
4.5,
a
presentation
on
the
update
of
the
solar
feasibility
study,
yep.
H
So
this
is
just
verbal
again,
we
are
in
the
midst
of
it,
but
we
expect
to
complete
the
study
by
next
month,
so
the
consulting
firm
that
we're
working
with
that
is
mckim
and
creed.
And
so
most
recently
we
worked
with
our
consultants
to
do
an
in-person
site
visit
of
10
facilities
that
we
identified,
as
you
know,
being
the
most
interested
to
have
solar
on
either
they
were
our
largest
consumers
or
we
thought
that
they
were
like
the
best
candidates
that
we
wanted.
H
The
immediate
feedback
on,
I
tried
to
remember
them
all
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I
will
say
one
is
our
north
east
wastewater
treatment
plant
that
you
guys
was
included
in
that
presentation
that
you
all
just
received,
as
well
as
our
municipal
services,
building
our
main
police
station,
our
main
library,
north
greenwood,
recreation,
center,
ross,
norton,
recreation
center,
our
solid
waste
complex,
our
public
utilities,
complex
and
our
fleet
building.
H
And
at
this
visit
we
examine
each
facility's,
roof
material
and
size,
the
electrical
room
capacity,
the
transformer
and
meter
capacity,
the
age
of
facility
and
roof.
And
if
the
facility
was
expected
to
include
ev
charging
stations
in
the
near
future,
because
that
would
then
determine
how
many
solar
panels
we
could
have
to
maybe
reach
full
offset
or
near
full
offset
for
that
facility.
H
H
No
problem,
but
I
have
just
for
visuals-
I'm
not
going
to
worry
about
that
it's.
This
is
probably
a
20
page
report,
and
this
is
this:
one
is
just
for
our
countryside,
library
and
what
it
does.
H
So
there
are
two
huge
benefits
of
this
study:
one.
We
get
personalized
individualized
data
on
each
facility
from
a
third-party
consultant.
That's
not
a
solar
installer.
An
additional
one
is
that
we
gain
more
familiarity
with
what
does
a
good
bid
look
like
for
solar
projects?
What
should
we
be
asking
these
insulation
companies
as
they
come
to
us?
And
what
is
our
you
know
our
standard
for?
What's
acceptable
and
what's
not,
they
really
went
really
in
depth
with
their
analysis.
We
looked
at
inflation
rates,
utility
rates
and
we
looked
at.
H
You
know
as
much
information
as
we
could
get
from
duke
about
the
building's
energy
consumption
for
the
previous
year,
if
not
two
years
ahead
of
that,
and
once
the
study
is
complete,
we'll
identify
the
facilities
that
are
the
most
optimal
for
solar
and
that
will
help
us
reach
the
80
reduction
in
electricity
emissions
that
greenprint
has
as
a
goal.
H
The
study
will
also
help
us
budget
for
these
future
installations,
as
well
as,
like,
I
said,
identify
proper
bids
moving
forward.
A
I
was
just
going
to
mention
that
at
our
special
meeting
looking
out
over
imagine
clearwater
there
were
some
areas
noted
where
there
would
be
solar.
Was
that
part
of
the
feasibility
study
as
well.
H
So
it
is
not
yet
because
those
buildings
are
in
existence,
okay,
but
as
part
of
that
project,
with
the
firm
they're
doing
this.
The
study
and
the
reporting
on
that.
C
H
Yes,
that's
a
great
question
and
that's
10
that
we
could
just
fit
in
a
two-day
eight-hour
a
day
site
visit
overall,
it's
50-plus
that
we're
looking
at
it
depends.
So
I
will
say
there
are
some
buildings
I
want
to
say
it
was
our
municipal
services,
building
that
when
we
looked
at
the
electrical
capacity
it
they
didn't
have
that
much
room,
so
that
might
involve
adding
like
another
transformer
which
is
expensive,
but
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things,
isn't
too
expensive.
So
there
are
several
options
for
that.
H
I
would
say
our
rec
centers
were
pretty
good
candidates.
Both
ross
norton
and
north
greenwood
have
very
large
consumptions
our
electrical
loads
and
a
good
amount
of
roof
capacity
where
they're
not
greatly
shaded.
They
do
have
they're
both
very
varied
in
their
roofs,
where
they
have
multiple
levels
so
that
that
is
a
little
bit
of
an
not
a
big
issue,
but
it
makes
it
just
slightly
more
expensive
because
you
don't
have
it
streamlined
and
then
other
things
like
our
fleet
building
could
be
really
excellent.
H
H
It
depends
on
the
reports
because
we've
only
probably
received
three,
if
not
four,
of
the
reports,
we
expect
for
them
all
to
be
finished
in
february,
or
we
can
look
at
them
and
see
what
are
our
most
optimal
because
for
us,
it's
not
a
number.
It's
not
like.
We
need
a
number
of
facilities,
we're
looking
at
what
will
help
us
get
to
that
80
reduction
in
energy
emissions
for
the
city
and
that's
in
combination
with,
hopefully,
our
energy
efficiency
programs,
our
participation
in
the
deep
clean
energy
connection
and
renewable
energy.
H
Because
what
the
the
main
work
was
creating
the
template,
getting
them
the
information
and
they're
just
now,
synthesizing
it
all
right,
and
so
now
that
they
have
the
template,
it's
more
just
like
a
plug
and
chug
for
a
lack
of
a
better
way
of
saying
it.
A
Yeah,
the
ten
buildings
you
mentioned,
msb
a
couple
of
rec
centers,
the
main
library
I'm
trying
to
like
try
and
think
of
all
of
them,
but
I
think
even
the
most
recent
building
mentioned
is
10
or
15
years
old.
That
was
built.
What's
the
life
expectancy
of
the
solar
and
compared
to
the
roofs
that
are
there,
do
the
roofs
need
to
be
upgraded.
H
So
a
big
question,
as
part
of
that
is
when
is
the
roof
going
to
be
replaced
because
that's
the
most
economical
time
to
include
solar,
so
we're
in
addition
to
looking
at
the
you
know
the
conditions
I
told
you
about
it's:
when
will
this
roof
be
replaced
so
for
north
greenwood
that
just
had
the
roof
replaced?
I
think
in
2018
that
may
be
less
beneficial,
doesn't
mean
it
will
rule
out
solar,
especially
for
how
large
that
building
is
and
how
beneficial
solar
array
will
be
for
that
community.
H
H
That's
a
great
question
so
at
this
point
no,
however,
the
consulting
their
the
consulting
company
is
experts
in
that
so
they'll
be
giving
us
some
information
on
if
we
wanted
to
pursue
that
in
the
future
at
the
at
this
point
in
time.
Just
to
be
honest,
we
haven't
had
a
solar
array
on
our
facilities
and
it
gets
more
expensive
when
you
add
battery
capacity
so
with
trying
to
build
more
familiarity
and
support
for
solar
on
facilities.
We're
really
just
trying
to
get
solar
on
buildings
and
then
look
at
that
resilience
component.
B
So
my
next
question
is
if
one
of
these
facilities
was
selected
having
the
instead
of
having
like
the
battery
backup
having
it
in
connection
with
like
a
place
where
the
fleets
are
charged.
So
then,
if
they're
evs,
then
that
could
be
used
as
a
battery
backup
if
it's
not,
for
example,
an
emergency
storm
shelter
for
resiliency
purposes.
H
Yeah,
so
we
are,
we
are
planning,
you
know
and
noting,
where
we're
going
to
have
electric
vehicle
charging
stations.
I
think
there
is-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
what
you
might
have
been
getting
at,
but
when
when
the
grid
is
down,
I
don't
think
you
can
access
the
power
from
that
solar
energy
when
it's
on
a
facility.
B
H
The
building
yep,
absolutely
I
get
what
you're
saying
with
that
and
not
to
promote
one
manufacturer
or
the
other,
but
with
the
ford
f-150,
that's
coming
out,
that's
a
really
exciting
component
of
that
or
that
battery
might
be
able
to
power
a
home.
If
it's
not
so
yeah
the
blend
of
technologies,
there
is
really
exciting.
That's
a
great
point.
F
Thank
you
any
other
questions.
Well,
you
mentioned.
You
know
you
mentioned
in
reaching
that
80
goal
energy
efficiencies,
hopefully,
and
I'm
assuming
you're
talking
it's
at
that
time
about
synergistic
about
the
synergistic
contract,
that's
being
considered
by
council
yep.
You.
H
F
Your
office
is
brought
this
before
council
and
is
recommending
it
this
contract.
Yes,
did
you
yeah,
and
you
know
I
mean
I
haven't
look.
I
should
have
them
terrible
that
I
haven't
looked
at
that
presentation
that
was
made
to
council,
but
what
kind
of
savings
were
is
synergistic,
projecting
for
that
five-year
contract.
H
So
we
we
discussed
with
them.
You
know
we
provided
information,
like
our
total
total
cost
of
the
electricity,
how
many
kilowatt
hours
we
use
the
square
footage
of
of
our
facilities
based
on
that
and
their
35
years
of
experience.
They
projected
that
we
could
save
8.2
million
in
a
five
year
period.
Previously
the
they
have
kind
of
two
methods
of
doing
that.
One
one
is
what
we
took.
H
F
H
We
we
have
to
discuss
it
more
based
on
feedback
from
council.
Today
we
may
be
recommending
one
over
the
other
okay.
A
Okay,
no
more
questions.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
We'll
move
on
to
our
next
item.
4.6
elect
chair
and
vice
chair
our
favorite
time
of
year.
A
I
will,
I
guess,
start
the
discussion.
I've
been
chair
for
many
years
now.
I
start
on
the
board
as
just
a
member
I
became
vice
chair
and
have
served
as
chair
for
quite
a
few
years
I'll.
You
know
I
look
forward
to
you
know
serving
in
any
capacity
but
and
have
no
problem.
Moving
aside,
if
our
vice
chair
is
interested
in
moving
up
into
the
chairmanship
role,
otherwise
I'll.
A
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
very
much,
john.
I
I
do
want
to
keep
open
that
if
there's
anyone
else,
you
know
we
do
want
to
have
succession
in
the
board,
and
so
eventually
I
don't
want
to
always
be
the
chair.
So
if
anyone
I
I
don't
mind
I
do
like
serving-
and
I
do
like
this
this
role,
but
I
do
want
to
keep
it
open
for
anyone
else
who
has
an
interest.
A
But
if
there's
anyone
you
know-
and
I
think
john
you
do
a
great
job
as
vice
chair,
but
I
do
feel
like
if
we
do
have
someone
who
wants
to
move
forward.
Eventually,
we
do
need
someone
in
the
vice
chair
role
to
move
up
to
this
role.
So
I
don't
know
you
know
I'll
I'll
nominate
john
again
for,
but
we
need
to
keep
one
thing
together.
J
A
Thank
you
very
much.
All
right
motion
carries
okay
and
now
now
we'll
move
on
so
I
would
you
know
I
don't
I.
I
think
you
do
a
great
job
john.
I
just
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
somebody
wants
to
eventually
move
up
that
we
have
that
line
of
succession,
but
oh.
A
A
It's
you
know
just
kind
of
it's
kind
of
that
seat
and
waiting
sort
of
for
the
chairman
or
chair
role.
Typically,
that's
you
know
how
the
succession
is
on
on
board.
So
you
know
that's
how
I
so
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
has
an
interest
in
maybe
next
year:
okay,
okay!
Well,
I
nominate
john
again
for
this
this
year
and
and
if,
if
that's
all
right,
if
there's
no
other
nominations.
A
So
now
we
have
our
chair.
We
have
our
vice
chair
again,
we'll
move
on
to
old
business.
C
I
have
two
topics:
okay,
first
of
all,
last
time
we
met
jared.
You
brought
up
the
topic
of
this
motorboat
racing
during
turtle
nesting
season,
yes,
and
after
thinking
about
it
for
a
while
and
listening
to
people
in
the
community,
I
think
it
would
be
good
if
we
could
make
a
statement
that,
as
the
environmental
advisory
board
has
to
protect
the
environment,
that
is
probably
not
a
good
idea
to
have
motorboat
racing
during
turtle
nesting
season.
J
A
No,
no,
it
wasn't
emotion
yet
she
just
was
bringing
up
the
old
business
right
now.
C
And
then
the
second
thing
I
wanted
for
us
to
discuss
was
something
that
john
brought
up.
While
we
were
on
the
roof
about
the
the
seabeds
that
are
outside
of
the
channel
and
that
will
be
impacted
by
the
boats
that
come
to
listen
to
music
and
imagine
clear
water,
and
perhaps
we
could
make
a
statement
about
how
to
protect
those
seabeds,
whether
it's
some
sort
of
recommendation
we
make
to
council
that
they
put
up
signs
or
have
enforcement
or
something
for
that
effect.
Yeah.
A
I
think
that's
a
great
point
that
you
brought
up
earlier
again
john
two
and
thank
you
for
bringing
it
up.
Would
that
be
another
letter
to
council
or
would
we
have
to
meet
with.
E
E
To
council
yeah
because
I've
talked
to
like
the
different,
so
it
would
need
to
it
would
need
to
come
from
council
to
direct
somebody
to
work
on
that
project
and
to
do
that
process.
E
So
it
would
need
to
come
from
them.
So
what's
our
next
step,
then
we'll
talk
about
it
at
the
next
meeting
and
draft
the
letter
and
that
sort
of
thing.
A
E
Thank
you
yeah.
If
you
want
to
send
me
a
draft
letter
before
the
next
meeting
and
then
I'll
distribute
it,
so
we
can
that'll
that'll
quicken
that
that
letter.
D
The
first
step
is
really
to
perform
an
up-to-date
survey
yeah,
you
know
to
understand
the
current
status
of
it
and
then
that
can
be
plugged
into
the
tampa
bay
estuary
program
atlas
for
the
area
as
well,
but
you
know
it
would
then
have
to
go
to
the
coast
guard
for
approval
of
the
you
know
restricted
of
moorings
in
that
area.
D
C
F
I
F
The
synergistic
do
we
want
to
weigh
in
on
that,
once
again,
it's
going
to
happen
before
we
meet
again,
you
know
a
decision
on
the
synergistic
contracts.
C
B
A
A
Yeah,
john,
I
guess
no
other
old
business
all
right,
we'll
move
on
to
the
director's
report.
E
So
just
two
things
that
were
supposed
to
be
on
the
agenda
today:
the
master
plan
for
parks
and
rec.
That
project
has
been
put
on
hold
and
so
she's
going
to.
Let
me
know
when
they
start
developing
the
scope
again,
I
think
their
eyes
were
bigger
than
their
stomach
and
they
realized
like
how
much
it
was
going
to
cost
for
everything
they
wanted.
So
it's
like
they
got
up.
They
gotta
dial
back
a
little
bit
so
they're,
not
quite
they're,
not
quite
there
yet,
and
then
the
herbicide
and
fertilizer
application
stuff.
E
So
the
guru
in
our
parks
and
beautification
committee
cannot
make
wednesday
nights.
So
that
will
be
something
that
we
can
look
at,
maybe
a
special
meeting
or
something
like
that
that
that
he
can
come
or
maybe
he
could
like
videotape
something
or
do
something
like
that,
because
wednesday
nights
do
not
work
for
him,
and
so,
if
you
guys
want
to
send
me
some
brainstorming
ideas
on
how
to
get
more
information
from
him
without
him
being
here
feel
free
to
do
that.
E
And
then
I
have
a
couple
of
things:
the
super
boat,
races
and
the
seagrass
will
be
on
the
next
agenda.
So
if
you
want
to
just
email
me
additional
ideas
for
the
sake
of
time,
unless
you
have
something
like
quick.
D
Could
come
and
we
could
engage
with
him
at
that
time.
Yeah.
A
D
E
So
if
there's,
if
you
guys
have
any
other
suggestions,
just
email
me,
okay,
great.
E
A
A
F
I
think
that's,
I
think.
That's
it.
D
All
right
just
to
note
two
issues
that
I'm
working
on
kind
of
independently.
That's
with
sheridan,
to
look
at
the
feasibility
of
a
one
of
the
community
gardens
that
could
be
run
as
a
pilot
somewhere
in
the
city
and
some
keen
interest
of
mine
and
chatted
with
her
about
it.
We're
going
to
be
working
towards
you
know,
seeing
if
we
can
get
a
community
gardening.
A
D
Yeah,
it
is,
but
this
is
there's
a
new
program
that
the
city
had
and
it's
one
of
the
items
in
green
print
to
establish
community
gardens
and
that
one
is
really
run
by
the
garden
club
more
than
that's
harold,
washour
running
that
where
this
would
be
neighborhood
based,
multi-tenanted
type
of
an
arrangement
and
some
of
the
sites
shared
and
shared,
might
be
some
of
the
record
community
centers,
where
they
may
have
some
opportunities
for
this
on
city
property.
D
D
J
D
And
I've
had
concerns
over
the
invasive
species,
primarily
brazilian
peppers
that
are
growing
into
the
mangroves
and
overhanging
onto
this
community
sailing
property
and
investing
that
property.
And
it's
just
something
that,
if
we're
spending
800
000
to
repair
docks,
we
should
be
spending
at
least
a
little
bit
of
money
to
preserve
the
ecological
integrity
of
that
property,
as
the
parks
department
had
done
many
years
ago,
in
conjunction
with
me
and
some
other
folks
at
the
bay
park
on
sand
key.
D
So
that's
another
project
that
I'll
be
pushing
on
and
have
chatted
with
sarah
about
that
in
the
past,
to
see
how
we
can
get
the
mariette
hotel
to
remove
these
huge
brazilian
pepper
trees
and
carrot
with
trees
that
just
sheds
more
seed
and
is
a
seed
source.
You
know
the
largest
one
now
on
sand.
Key,
no
response.
A
Well,
I
look
forward
to
the
update
as
you
move
forward
for
myself.
I
don't
have
much
to
say
I
was
hopeful
that
our
city
manager
would
be
here,
so
we
could
discuss
more
meetings,
moving
forward
and
and
other
activities
for
the
sport
for
this
year
and
moving
forward.
Hopefully
we'll
get
to
do
that
at
our
next
meeting
and
until
then
I'm
gonna
join
for
today.
Thank
you.