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From YouTube: City of Clearwater Environmental Advisory Board 7/19/23
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A
B
A
Let
me
coming
to
members
of
the
environmental
Advisory
Board
were
appointed
by
the
city
council
and
we
serve
voluntarily.
The
board's
objective
is
to
provide
citizen
insight
to
the
city,
council
and
staff
on
environmental
activities
within
and
affecting
the
city
of
Clearwater
agenda
is
in.
Today's
meeting
are
on
the
wall
to
the
entrance
to
the
city
council
chambers.
Please
remember
to
turn
off
your
cell
phones
and
electronic
devices
to
ensure
a
complete
record
of
the
board's
actions.
A
C
A
A
Thank
you
and
I'm
Jared
Leon,
your
chairman,
this
order
of
businesses
to
approve
the
minutes
from
our
previous
two
meetings.
I
noticed
there
were
a
couple
of
there
were
a
couple
errors
on
the
same
error
on
both
of
the
the
minutes
in
title.
I
talked
to
Nicole
and
she
made
those
changes
with
those
changes.
I'm
looking
for
approval
of
the
minutes
from
our
previous
two
all
right,
a
second
second
all
in
favor
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
E
A
Are
approved
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
item
citizens
to
be
heard
for
items
not
on
the
agenda.
If
there's
anyone
here
to
speak
on
us
not
on
the
agenda,
please
come
forward
and
state
your
name
and
spell
it
for
the
clerk.
You'll
have
three
minutes
to
speak
on
any
subject
that
is
not
on
today's
agenda.
A
F
My
name
is
Wayne
Carruthers
and
I'm,
a
citizen
here
at
Clearwater,
and
what
brings
me
here
today
is
when
there
was
an
article
in
the
Tampa
Times
paper
Sunday,
and
it
was
about
the
cemetery
there
on
Cleveland
Street
in
Missouri.
I
know
by
now
we're
all
pretty
much
familiar
with
it.
I
grew
up
right
there.
All
my
life
I
lived,
two
blocks
away
on
Frederica
and
I
know
that
area
real.
Well,
when
we
were
kids,
we
played
Sandlot
on
that
lot
before
it
became
a
Montgomery
Wards,
and
then
we.
F
From
around
Jack
Russell
Stadium
to
play
ball
with
us
and
they
used
to
tell
us
back
then
how
that
was
a
haunted
cemetery
and
it
was
just
a
you
know,
just
a
but
when
I
got
into
high
school
here
at
Clearwater
it
was
still
the
same
joke
and
then,
when
I
came
home
from
the
Ari,
we
would
sit
over
there
and
have
a
few
beers
at
post,
seven
and
in
the
snow
yeah.
It
was
just
something
you
would
bring
up,
but
now
we
fast
forward-
and
here
we
are
2024.
F
and
we
know
what's
going
on
there.
You
know
there's
human
remains
that
weren't
accounted
for
they're
still
there.
And
so
what
brings
me
here
today?
I,
don't
know
the
crumbs
but
I
from
what
I've
read:
they're
good
people.
They
bought
that
property
in
good
faith.
They
even
cotton
ready
from
the
city
that
it
was
clear
or
walk,
remains.
So
here
we
are
today
and
if
you
read
that
article
the
crumbs
are
upset
because
they
think
the
city
is
dragging
their
feet
instead
of
white.
F
So,
as
a
concerned,
citizen
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
proper
board,
so
maybe
I'm
just
I
don't
mean
to
use
you
but
I'm,
hoping
that
somebody
will
hear
this
and
hire
her
up.
They'll
start
saying:
hey,
you
know,
he's
got
a
point
there,
because
the
city
doesn't
need
this.
We
don't
need
this.
This
is
a
black
eye
and
the
whole
world
is
watching.
F
A
D
So
so
we
did
receive
the
letter
from
from
the
crumbs.
The
the
city
manager
is
currently
organizing
a
meeting
with
both
the
members
of
the
community
and
and
City
staff
to
talk
a
little
further
about
it
and
try
to
figure
out
the
best
path
forward.
So
there
should
be
more
to
come
in
next
next
month
or.
A
F
You
know
I
I
heard
what
you
said
and
the
city's
response
is
that
because
of
Sunday's
paper
article
or
is
that
something
that
was
in
the
work
before
Sunday.
F
Yeah
is
there
a
documentation
of
that
because
yeah,
if
you
listen
to
the
crumbs-
and
you
listen
to
other
people
too,
like
the
the
north
Greenwood
Community
people
they're
all
upset
too
that's
a
city,
it
is
dragging
their
feet
and
I.
Don't
know
why
I
think
the
longer
the
city
drags
their
feet
on
this,
the
more
it's
going
to
cost
them.
H
Does
the
city
reviewed
a
title
report
regarding
the
property
that
may
have
been
provided
to
the
crumbs
when
they
bought
the
property
that
you
know
it
did
have
or
did
not
have
a
cemetery
the.
D
Historic
Cemetery
I'm
not
familiar
with
anything
necessarily
in
the
title:
I
we
have
in
the
past
several
years,
starting
in
I,
believe
it
was
2020
done
several
GPR
reports
on
on
both
of
the
of
the
cemetery
sites,
but
I
I,
don't
know
if,
on
that,
on
that
title
piece
I
would
have
to
check.
H
Yeah,
it
would
seem
that
you
know
someone's
buying
a
piece
of
property
you
want
to
have.
You
know
clear
title
to
it
and
that's
why
we
have
title
insurance
companies
and
people
buy
Title,
Insurance,
they'd,
love
to
see
the
report
and
see
if
that
was
something
that
was
overlooked
and
what
the
answer?
How
about
those
questions
were
answered
by
whoever
issued
the
title
report.
A
I
Hello,
Brian
Beckman.
As
you
know,
each
meeting
I
try
to
provide
an
update
on
where
the
solar
installations
for
the
City
stand
so
just
to
highlight
some
information
I
sent
you
earlier
today
for
Q2
of
this
year.
I
An
additional
68
solar
permits
were
pulled
here
in
the
city
that
reaches
over
1
500
installations,
assuming
that
they
all
follow
through
with
that,
and
that
totals
after
that
amount
of
solar
is
installed
cumulative
three
million
dollars
a
year
in
annual
savings
on
electricity
bills,
as
well
as
annually
37
million
pounds
of
CO2
that's
eliminated
of
not
having
to
have
that
electricity
generated.
I
When
you
compare
that
to,
for
instance,
the
largest
generation
facility
we
have
here
in
the
county
is
the
Bartow
plant
down
in
St
Petersburg,
the
amount
of
solar,
that's
on
the
rooftops
here
is
equivalent
to
about
one
and
a
half
percent
of
what
the
capacity
is
of
that
Bartow
plant.
I
They
just
got
their
solar
installed,
it's
their
second
solar
installation
in
the
county,
and
they
installed
the
second
one
because
of
the
big
savings
they
got
with
the
first
one.
The
first
one
is
at
another
facility
in
Largo
and
so
very
apparent
in
that
conversation
I
had
with
the
director
there
of
how
important
those
savings
were
to
her
and
for
other
environmental
reasons,
but
the
one
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
to
the
board
here,
as
well
as
to
the
city.
I
I
Normally
in
the
past
before
the
inflation
reduction,
Act
was
passed,
you
couldn't
get
a
tax
credit,
but
you
can
get
a
rebate
just
made
me
think
about
if
there's
more
communication
that
can
be
done
to
the
community
to
let
them
know
that
that's
available,
more
information
is
going
to
be
coming
from
the
government
and
how
you
actually
execute
those
things,
as
you
probably
know,
but
that
could
be
useful
information
to
people.
So
thank.
J
M-A-R-Y-E-L-L-E-N-G-O-R-D-O-N
I
am
a
resident
of
80
Rogers
Street,
which
is
Prelude
80
Condominiums.
My
husband
is
out
of
town
and
I
just
say
that,
because
I
want
you
to
know,
he
would
also
be
here
and
have
comments
to
make
if
he
were
here
I'm
here
to
address
concerns
about
the
proposed
development
at
420-432
Bay
Avenue,
which
is
the
property
property
directly
next
to
ours.
On
the
North
side,
you
should
have
received
an
email
with
a
letter
expressing
our
concerns
and
questions,
and
it
will
give
more
details
on
each
of
the
issues.
J
I
and
others
who
are
here
today
will
raise
and
as
well
there'll
be
some
additional
concerns.
We
have
that
are
not
environmental
related
I'd
like
to
start
by
saying
we're,
not
anti-development.
We
understand
the
Waterfront
lot
next
to
us
will
be
developed.
The
issue
is
how
it
will
happen
in
its
current
state.
The
plan
itself
does
not
meet
the
stated
criteria
of
either
the
Downtown
Development
Zone
goals
for
the
city,
nor
the
city's
green
print,
2.0
environmental
goals
of
resiliency,
livability
and
green
building.
J
Yet
no
City
agency
has
raised
a
red
flag
about
these
overall
failures.
Our
building
is
13
Stories,
the
Oaks
Alf
to
our
North
is
15
Stories.
The
proposed
building
is
actually
two
buildings
at
35
stories.
Each
reaching
up
to
470
feet.
It
will
extend
to
just
20
feet
from
the
coastline,
which
is
currently
natural
and
home
to
seagrasses,
Marine,
Wildlife
water
birds
and
includes
a
protective
Mangrove
area.
Not
only
is
there
no
acknowledgment
of
these
fragile
ecosystems
in
the
building
plan,
the
renderings
actually
show
menu,
sorry
manicured
Landscaping.
J
The
lot
will
be
elevated
and
will
come
within
five
feet
of
our
North
property
line.
There
would
be
nothing
to
prevent
extreme
amounts
of
water
runoff
to
directly
entering
the
bay.
There
will
be
a
lot
of
toxic
runoff
from
the
construction
site,
which
also
has
not
been
addressed
in
any
of
the
plans.
The
Bluffs
area
upon
which
they
want
to
build
is
alive
with
underground
waterways
that
include
rivers
and
springs.
J
Deep
drilling
will
be
necessary
to
reach
that
bedrock,
and
there
is
no
way
that
that
it's
not
going
to
disturb
and
do
irreparable
damage
to
all
of
that
underground,
water
and
soil.
City's
regulations,
protocols
and
processes
have
left
us
literally
fearful
for
the
sustainability
of
the
environment
surrounding
this
proposed
project.
The
developers
have
disregarded
neighborhood
contacts,
the
structural
Integrity
of
the
soil,
water
and
ground
of
the
Waterfront
lot
upon
they
want
which
they
want
to
develop
and
the
fragility
of
the
surrounding
ecosystem.
J
Why
was
this
developer
not
informed
from
the
start
that
they
needed
to
entirely
redraw
their
plans
only
when
they
submit
their
requests
for
permits?
Will
they
propose
their
fixes
for
the
number
of
issues
pointed
out
by
planners
which
do
not
address
many
of
our
concerns?
That
seems
egregiously
late,
I
know
I'm,
probably
out
of
time,
but
I
want
to
thank
you
and
ask
if
you
would
stand
with
us
to
ask
for
a
delay
and
re-evaluation
on
this
project
as
it
is
currently
proposed.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
G
I
would
hate
to
see
the
grass
beds
that
we
have
now
destroyed
the
parcel
of
land
borders.
The
last
natural
Cove
along
Clearwater's
Waterfront
that
we
have
left.
Do
you
really
want
to
see
it
destroyed?
This
property
has
no
sea
wall
and
has
only
rip
raft
along
an
uneven
Shoreline.
Some
would
like
to
dredge
this
Square
it
off
and
put
in
a
sea
wall.
Don't
forget,
too,
that
there
are
precious
mangroves
along
that
Shoreline
and
I'm,
hoping
you
all
would
want
to
see
them
protected
and
not
decimated.
G
Prelude
80
residents
are
against
any
dredging
around
or
near
that
Shoreline.
That
Cove
and
Shoreline
has
been
a
natural
awe
of
my
life
and
has
a
huge
Wildlife
population.
We
have
manatees
that
left
a
munch
on
the
grassy
bottom
and
Frolic
in
the
Cove,
uninterrupted
by
power
boats,
the
dolphin
helped
their
babies
in
that
code
to
fish
dive
and
jump.
The
assortment
of
third
life
is
unbelievable.
G
Clearwater
has
always
had
underground,
Springs,
all
along
the
coastline
and
Bluff
areas,
and
in
the
Cove
itself.
This
project
could
interrupt
those
Springs
and
cause
damage
to
adjoining
properties.
The
driving
of
pilings
way
down
into
the
Bedrock
could
hurt
not
only
the
Springs
but
could
cause
ground
problems
with
Hill,
slides,
possible,
sinkhole
and
underground
water
problems
to
surrounding
properties,
buildings
or
streets.
G
Does
Clearwater
really
want
to
chance
that
around
this
natural
Cove
and
the
historical
Harbor
Oaks
area
I
urge
all
of
you
to
please
fill
out
View
and
walk
this
entire
parcel
at
42432,
Bay,
Avenue,
The,
Cove,
the
natural
Shoreline
mangroves
and
well.
There
look
at
the
drainage
blueprints
planned
for
that
property
and
how
the
drainage
and
rainfall
runoff
will
be
from
Bay
Avenue
down
a
steep
driveway
into
the
Cove
Bay
adjoining
property
and
surrounding
narrow
streets,
not
good.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
giving
me
a
chance
to
try
and
save
Clearwater's
last
natural
spot.
E
E
There
were
two
items
on
the
agenda
there,
relative
to
pools
being
built,
seaward
of
the
Coastal
Construction
line
and
listening
to
the
discussion,
I
believe
that
our
code
does
not
specifically
deal
when
they
would
vary
and
allow
such
a
construction,
and
when
it's
inappropriate
it
depends
on
the
general
acceptance
criteria
which
are
not
which
are
more
neighborhood
based,
which
is
very
important,
but
the
Coastal
Construction
line
is
more
for
an
environmental
based
and
so
I
think.
That's
an
appropriate
thing
that
for
this
board
to
possibly
look
at
the
other
thing.
E
E
The
code
limits
the
density
of
the
property
to
70
units
per
acre,
The
Higher
One
is
75.
Plus
there
is
a
in
amenity
density
bonus,
that's
applicable
the
way
I
read
the
code:
I,
don't
think
that
would
be
applicable
to
the
building
that
is
closest
to
the
water,
but
there
are
plenty
on
both
buildings
being
the
same
height,
so
I
I
think
there's
a
question
at
that
level.
I've
talked
to
the
planning
department
about
that.
They
say
that
there's
a
averaging
that
can
be
applied
if
there's
two
zoning
districts,
but
it's
not
a
zoning
District.
E
It's
an
environmental
restriction
on
the
property,
so
I
I
share
that
the
only
other
thing
since
I
have
a
40
seconds
left.
I
will
hope
that
you
will
continue
to
be
supportive
of
the
vegetation
and
the
renovation
of
the
medians
on
Gulf
to
Bay
Boulevard.
We
used
to
have
really
nice
plantings
in
that
area
and
they've
been
allowed
to
really
go
downhill.
E
A
K
Hello,
my
name
is
Jeffrey
Dennis
I
live
at
Prelude
80
at
80,
Rogers
Street
I
am
the
President
of
the
prelude,
80.
homeowners
association,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
our
residents
here
that
are
quite
upset
with
what's
going
on
and
not
being
informed
of
it.
We
have
a
very
beautiful
area
there.
As
Sarah
cardellas,
saying
earlier
lots
of
Wildlife
sea
grass,
we
see
numerous
things
to
swim
by
every
day.
I
saw
two
otters
the
other
day
as
first
time
I've
ever
seen,
those
as
Mary
Ellen
was
explaining
to
you.
K
A
A
Oh
my
God
and
in
response
to
audience
concerns
about
the
project
next
door.
Is
there
any
information
that
you
can
provide
us.
D
A
I
think
some
of
the
concerns
were
a
lack
of
environmental
impact
study
things
like
that
things
that
would
be
addressed
normally
or
those
you.
D
Know,
I,
don't
know
it
changes
by
development.
Some
developments
based
on
skies
and
scope
would
require
those
sorts
of
things,
but
I
think
that
the
as
it
relates
to
the
environmental
Advisory
Board,
because
you
know,
because
there
isn't
really
a
regulatory
function
related
to
this.
D
There
isn't
a
lot
the
board
could
could
do
for
this
specific
issue.
However,
as
we
move
into
our
conversation
about,
you
know
the
the
changes
to
the
Land
Development
code,
the
change
of
comp
plan
we
discussed
at
the
last
meeting
as
I
mentioned,
then
we'll
we'll
be
having
Land
Development
toad
changes
come
before
you
all
as
well
at
some
point
here,
so
that
we
may
be
able
to
add
some
additional
protections.
If
we
determine
that.
B
H
During
my
tenure
on
the
environmental
Advisory
Board,
we
have
advocated
for
some
more
strict
environmental
review
as
part
of
the
development
process
for
projects
and
so
look
forward
to
seeing
those
kind
of
Provisions,
included
and
I
know.
We
actually
have
made
some
suggestions
several
years
ago.
You
know
just
regarding
the
same
type
of
issues
that
are
being
brought
up
here
tonight,
but
again
to
reinforce
we're
advisory.
L
D
Well,
I
mean
I.
Think,
ultimately,
you
know
I
certainly
understand
the
concern
I
I
can
provide
each
of
you
whatever
the
responses
are
from
Planning
and
Development,
because
there's
not
really
a
regulatory
function.
I,
don't
know
that
there's
you
know,
there's
anything
that
the
board
can
necessarily
do.
Certainly
you
can
individually
advocate
for
or
against
it.
D
M
J
J
They
had
the
their
review
meeting
a
couple
of.
M
J
Ago
which
we
attended-
and
that
was
where
we
found
out
where
they
were
in
the
process-
this
was
the
first
that
we
knew
about.
It
was
also
the
first
that
we
learned
that
that
piece
of
land
next
to
us
had
been
rezoned
to
be
part
of
the
Downtown
Development
District
in
2018.
Our
building
was
never
notified.
People
who
have
lived
there
for
a
long
time
and
keep
track
of
these
things
were
never
notified.
J
When
we
asked
at
the
meeting
why
we
wouldn't
have
been
notified,
they
said
because
it
wouldn't
affect
our
property,
even
though
we're
right
next
to
it.
So
we
had
concerns
about
that.
I
will
say
Obviously
the
city
planning
is
is
doing
their
job
in
terms
of
going
through
this
and
making
their
comments.
But
a
lot
of
the
comments
are
very
sort
of
line
item
and
there's
none
of
that.
J
There
are
things
that
they
absolutely
are
not
adhering
to
not
just
environmental
but
neighborhood
context.
That
sort
of
thing
traffic
concerns
so
outside
of
your
purview,
so
I
guess
we're
just
confused
as
to
who
ultimately
owns
this.
J
M
D
J
B
B
A
Can
you
find
out
what
the
timeline,
because
I
believe
that
DRC
is
a
very
early
phase
of
a
project
that
a
lot
of
times
step
might
not
come
to
fruition
later
on
I'm
just
and
so
we
can
just
kind
of
get
an
idea
of
if
this
is
something
that
we
can
kind
of
wrap
around
and
put
a
letter
of
support,
or
is
here
more
information,
because
it
sounds
like
it's
very
early
on
that
there
isn't
any
sort
of
study
or
Environmental
information,
no,
no
or
the
other
that
that
if
we
had
a
presentation
on
it
at
this
point,
we
wouldn't
put
much
information
and
I
think
that
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
move
forward
with
anything
without
something.
A
Like
John
said.
That
indicates
what
those
issues
would
be
moving
with
a
project
of
this
size
and
scope,
so
not
to
say
that
we
can't
be
supportive
of
of
what
you
brought
forward
to
us
today.
We
just
need
to
find
out
more
information
and
I
think
we're
in
the
same
kind
of
boat
that
you
are.
You
are
RN,
except
with
a
little
bit
less
than
I,
think
we'll
move
forward
with
whatever
we
can
find
from
Micah.
A
In
terms
of
answers
to
questions
that
you
raised
that
we
forwarded
on
and
we
can
forward
those
that
information
to
you
all
and
and
then
I'm
coming
upcoming
meeting,
we
can
figure
out
if
this
is
something
that
we
can
report
or
you
know
kind
of
help,
help
you
all
in
in
some
way
try
to
figure
out
where
the
next
step
is
for
you
all
to
to
deal
with
things
too.
D
M
Grounds
you
know
would
indicate
that
being
done.
You
know
what
would
what
would
be
the
conditions
for
that.
C
L
Yeah
and
I
would
like
to
say
thank
you
to
all
of
you
for
bringing
this
to
our
attention.
L
It's
not
the
first
time
that
I've
been
involved
or
been
made
aware
of
situations
where
development
is
planned
before
the
citizens
of
the
neighborhood
have
any
idea
of
what's
going
on,
and
it
is
very
frustrating
and
I
appreciate
your
frustration
and
I
appreciate
your
activity
and
your
action
in
bringing
it
towards
us,
and
hopefully
once
we
get
more
information
about
it
and
see
what
the
status
of
it
is
and
where
what
we
might
frame
as
an
advisory
comment
to
the
powers
that
be.
That
would
be.
N
My
name
is
Charlotte
Brian
I
have
a
condominium
at
Prelude
80.,
former
City
of
Minneapolis
Community
Development
I
was
one
of
the
people
that
led
all
the
major
developments
in
that
City.
So
isn't
that
my
first
rodeo
it
may
have
been
mentioned
earlier.
It
was
in
another
board
meeting.
So
sorry
for
my
tardiness.
But
are
you
going
to
be
reviewing
all
of
the
issues
of
light?
You
know
the
lighting
levels
in
the
area.
You
know
as
it
impacts
the
environment
and
bad
life
and
such
question.
There.
N
N
Who
is
who
is-
and
this
may
be
more
a
question
to
you
but
who's
going
to
be
dealing
with
the
the
environmental
impact
of
the
fact
that
there's
going
to
need
to
be
police
fire
emergency
Etc
that
are
going
to
have
to
get
to
this
property
line
in
the
streets
are
already
quite
narrow
and
since
they
only
have
a
density
of
I
believe
one
parking
spot
on
their
site
per
condominium
complex.
That
means
everybody
else
is
going
to
be
parking
in
the
streets
and
they're
already
narrow
streets.
E
N
Trees
come
down
all
of
those
sorts
of
things
right.
So
then
that
becomes
your
your
area.
You
know
where
they
start
if
they
start
taking
trees
down,
because
the
roads
have
to
be
made
wider
right,
Etc
to
fit
fire
trucks,
and
then
the
other
thing
is
just
talking
to
the
fire
marshal.
You
know
the
fire
trucks
that
the
city
has
right
now
will
not
will
will
not
serve
as
a
building
of
these
magnitude,
especially
two
of
them,
so
they're
they're
bigger
as
well.
N
A
That
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
You
know
yeah
I
believe,
like
you
said,
with
the
in
the
DRC,
there
is
multi-level
reviews
by
various
departments
that
address
a
lot
of.
D
These
other
issues
and
we've
in
fact,
when,
during
my
time
in
solid
waste
we,
you
know
we
dealt
with
a
lot
of
those
as
well
same
sort
of
truck
size
issues
and
Road
width,
and
you
know
turnarounds
those
sorts
of
things.
So
definitely
looked
at
yeah
well,
I
I'll
have
to
review
where
they're
at
in
the
process
yeah
and
like.
A
I
said
we're
kind
of
behind
you
all
educationally
and
informationally
about
this
project,
so
we'll
we'll
learn
more
and
when
we
do
we'll,
let
you
all
know
what
we
find
out
and
if
there's
been
that
we
can
do
we'll
we'll
do
it.
So
if
with
that,
if
there's
anything
else,
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
item,
that's
all
right,
our
new
business,
it's
4.1,
EAB
staff
alignment,
Micah.
D
A
O
Here
at
Clearwater,
I'm
actually
from
the
area
originally
and
I
left
and
I'm
back
any
other
questions,
I'm
happy
to
answer.
Okay,
great.
Thank
you.
Welcome
back.
A
O
Learning
all
sorts
of
you
know
just
Logistics
of
the
the
city
so
having
it
dived
right
into
all
that,
but
I've
reviewed
it
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
exciting
projects.
A
All
right
any
other
comments.
O
O
So,
like
I
said,
I'm
from
the
area,
I
grew
up
in
Pinellas
and
Pasco.
I
went
to
the
University
of
Florida
for
my
undergrad
and
then
I
yeah
I
go
Gators,
then
I
moved
abroad.
I
was
abroad
for
about
nine
years,
came
back
to
the
area
and
did
my
graduate
I
did
a
master's
in
global
sustainability
at
the
University
of
South
Florida
I
left
to
go
to
Virginia,
where
I
was
the
environmental
sustainability
coordinator
of
James
City
County
for
the
last
three
years
and
now
I'm
back
here.
H
Cassie,
would
you
characterize
your
expertise
more
in
the
energy
area
or
environmental
justice,
or
you
know
the
Sciences
or
the
softer?
You
know
more
Global
issues.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much,
we'll
look
forward
to
seeing
you
at
our
next
meetings
and
and
subsequent
means
from
there.
So
thank
you
all
right,
Micah
yeah,
the
EAD
staff
alignment.
D
I'm
not
sure
if
everyone
has
a
copy
of
Michael
Jackson,
Foundation
officer,
I
I
have
up
on
the
screen
here
and
the
goals
on
it.
We've
talked
for
the
last
several
meetings
about
sort
of
our
staff,
EAB
alignment
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page
about
the
types
of
things
we're
doing
and
what
we're
focused
on.
That's
it
not
coming
up
no.
A
D
D
But
either
way
all
right
we've,
you
know,
we've
discussed
them
in
the
last
several
meetings
and
you
know
we
wanted
to
see
if
you
all
had
any
further
comments.
I
know
that
Mr
Thomas
was
not
here
for
a
couple
meetings
and
didn't
have
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
this
previously
and
and
Miss
Wentworth
was
gone
for
for
a
couple
meetings
and
out
of
the
country
so
wanted
to
see.
If
there
were
any
other
further
questions
or
thoughts
about
about
the
Playbook
itself.
H
D
At
the
most
recent
meeting
you
know,
since
we
it's
not
popping
up
here,
Nicole's
Nicole's,
letting
us
stand
not
really.
D
You
know
we
had
as
our
y
to
exist
our
overall
objective
to
engage
in
multi-directional
conversations
with
the
city,
council
staff
and
citizens
about
potential
and
environmental
impacts
of
national,
regional
and
local
decisions
that
have
the
potential
to
impact
the
community.
That's
where
we
made
a
couple
adjustments
of
the
last
meeting
that
got
us
to
that
point,
so
that
is
the
overall
intended
I.
A
I
wrestled
with
because,
after
looking
at
that,
I
had
a
couple
of
concerns.
There
were
a
couple
of
just
a
writer
and
me
a
couple
of
repeat
words:
I,
don't
like
the
repeat
language
in
there,
I
also
I
I.
Think
some
of
the
wording
is
just
too
wordy.
I
feel,
like
you
know,
reading
or
original
and-
and
here
our
original
objective
is
to
provide
citizen
insight
to
the
city,
council
and
staff
on
environmental
activities
within
an
affecting
Clearwater.
Essentially,
are
we
still
off
there?
I'm
sorry.
A
I
apologize,
we're
both
hats
well,
I
feel
like
it's.
Our
our
stated
objective
is
very
it's
still
a
little
bit.
The
word
choice.
Isn't
the
as
I
guess
easy,
it's
more
government-ease,
but
I
think
our
our
changes
are
even
more
so
that
and
I
think
we
should
really
look
at
being
reflective
of.
A
Being
welcoming
and
I
think
I
think
the
way
it
reads
is
too
too
wordy
it's
just
I,
don't
know
I,
just
don't
I
I
think
it
is
kind
of
difficult
to
figure
out
what
it
is
that
we
actually
did
that
objective.
That
way,
so
I
think
we're
trying
to
make
things
clear
and
and
easier
to
for
our
board
and
to
be
recognized
for
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
I
think
that
makes
it
more
difficult
and
then,
where
my
thoughts
are
so
I'll
open
up
to
John
Glenna,
you
all
still.
H
Had
from
I
didn't
really
have
much
on
this
pretty
high
level,
you
know
related
information,
and
you
know
it's
really.
H
D
Little
deeper
into
the
weeds
as
we
as
we
go
into
the
lower
levels
of
the
of
the
document,
but
but
happy
to
make
any
adjustments
that
you
all
would
like.
And
if
it's
to
worry
that's
you
know
perfectly
fine.
We
can
make
some
adjustments
and.
A
I
do
agree,
it
is
very
I
love
you,
yeah
and
I
think
that
was
you
know
something
that
we.
A
This
is
very
difficult,
so
I
want
to
say,
I
appreciate
the
work
that
you
put
in
on
putting
this
together
for
us,
Micah
and
and
the
the
thought
to
kind
of
move
our
board
in
a
direction
like
this,
where
we
can
have
more
of
a
Rudder.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Marina.
L
D
Think
that
we
were
working
towards
that
and
we
had
some
some
other
adjustments
based
on
you
know
some
of
the
conversation
and
because
we
hadn't
had
as
much
of
a
chance
to
review
it.
You
know
during
these
you
know
these
various
meetings,
so
in
the
original
timeline
was
really
I
mean
we
staff
really
I
put
those
together
as
a
you
know,
goal
you
know,
didn't
necessarily
mean
we
were.
We
had
to
hit
those,
but
you
know
it
really
kind
of
dependent
on
how
much
conversation
you
all
wanted
to
have
about
it.
D
A
Well,
I'd
like
to
say
that
we
have
I
think
some
of
it
is
that
timeline
is
more
Nimble,
so
to
speak,
that
we
we
don't
say
we
want
this
done
within
this
amount
of
time.
We've
said:
we've
sat
here.
We
wanted
to
work
toward
the
city,
getting
a
cigarette
ban.
We
didn't
know
what
that
timeline
was,
but
we
passed
that
or
had
the
city
passed
that
in
June,
and
we
worked
to
support
that.
A
So
that
was
I,
think
significant
environmental
objective
that
we
had
put
together
early
on
that
we
've
achieved,
but
we
didn't
know
what
the
timeline
would
be
for
that,
but
that
is
one
of.
L
Them
right,
but
I
think
that
organizationally
this
has
more
structure
than
just
what
you
what
you
the
process
you
describe,
I
think
this
is
laying
out
an
overall
Vision,
then
identifying
things
that
we
want
to
do
underneath
that
and
then
agreeing
on
that
am
I
on
the
right
page.
That's
correct,
yeah,
okay,
so
and
I
think
it's
great
to
approach
it.
That
way,
I
think
it's
much
more
organized
much
more
focused
more
likely
to
get
more
done.
That
way.
L
So
it
seems
to
me
like
there
should
be
follow-up
documents
to
this,
and
that
would
be
the
art
identifying
our
significant
environmental
objectives
in
the
major
items,
specifically
as
it's
laid
out
here
and
although
the
timelines
are
flexible,
it's
good
to
have
time
lapse
because
it
keeps
you
on
task
and
I
think
that
we
should
kind
of
get
to
that
task.
Now.
Having
said
all
that
we
can
identify
objectives,
and
then
we
are
things
like
that
came
up
today.
Those
are
also
important
items
that
we
need
to
address.
L
So
we
can
build
flexibility
into
that,
but
I'm
on
board
with
this,
and
if
you
have
some
edits
to
the
verbiage
that
you
think
would
make
it
more
concise.
That's
an
easy
fix.
Yeah.
A
No
I
I
appreciate
that
I
I
guess
I,
just
I
just
looked
at
and
how
it
was
and
I
was
trying
it
was.
It
seemed
very
good.
It
seems
like
a
different
wording
of
what
we're
already
doing
and
just
and
just
that's
all
I
was
I
I
hadn't
really.
You
know.
I
tried
to
come
up
with
some
other
I
just
kept
falling
back
to
where
so.
D
Here,
yeah
really
just
you
know,
and
really
those
first
four
right
as
as
we
you
know
as
we
determine
that
those
are
in
fact
what
we
you
know.
What
we
think
are
important.
That'll
help
help
us
really.
You
know
lock
down
some
of
the
timelines
on
items
under
the.
What
is
the
most
important
thing
right
now
and,
of
course,
we,
when
we
get
to
the
near
term
items
as
well,
we've
been
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
staying
ahead
of
those
things
that
we
know
are
coming
and
that
you
will.
D
We
know
you
all
care
about
that
are
that
are
in
these
things,
because
we
haven't
finished
this.
Yet
you
know
we
may
not
have
a
a
final
scheduled
document,
but
we're
trying
to
have
an
active,
live
document
and
update
you
at
every
meeting
on
what
we're
adding
for
those
next
few
meetings
so
that
you
can
kind
of
see
what's
coming.
D
L
A
Okay,
well,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
I
I
had
I
just
had
my
only
concerns
about
changing
what
our
objective
is.
I,
like
I,
said
it
I
I.
A
A
M
A
That's
that's
changed.
That's
that's
a
change
from
our
objective,
which
is
to
provide
citizen
insight
to
the
city
council,
on
staff,
on
environmental
activities
within
and
affecting
Clear
Water.
That's
what
our
that's!
What
by
ordinance,
our
board
is
created
as
an
objective
so
to
change
it
here.
We'll
have
to
go
through
city
council
to
have
them
change
shift
by.
L
D
Me,
the
original
one
was
what
is
in
the
code,
the
one
that
yeah
the
chairman
just
just
read.
It
is
certainly
I
think
it
makes
sense
if
we
get
to
one
that
we
really
think
is
the
right
one
to
recommend
a
change
to
the
ordinance.
D
That
probably
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
and
you
know
I
mean
if
we're
not,
if
we're
not
ready
for
that
piece
that
that's
okay,
I,
think
the
concepts
assuming
we
we
all
agree
on
the
concepts
here,
we
can
tend
to
move
forward
and
try
to
yeah
making
further
the
the
objective.
If
you
like,
really
you
know
kind
of
up
to
you
all.
D
A
Just
the
work,
the
wording
for
objective
or
objective
and
I
think
it's
very
similar.
What
how
we,
how
it
currently
reads
and
and
presentation
of
the
I
just
I
just
I'm,
just
not.
C
A
big
fan
of
of
how
it
reads
so
so
do
you
want
to
make
edits
to
what
is
there.
A
Yeah
yeah,
yes,
I,
do
again
a
lot
of
it
when
I
come
back,
it's
it's
similar
to
how
it
currently
is
stated.
I
did
I,
just
don't
see
how
substantially
different
they
are,
and
maybe
that's
just
my
perspective.
I
want.
L
To
go
back
to
the
original
one,
I
I,
like
I
I,
don't
think
it's
perfect
either,
but
I
think
it's
a.
A
Lot
easier
in
terms
of
for
for
a
wider
distribution
and
understand.
L
L
A
Okay,
well,
I
I
would
move
to
keep
it.
A
H
Just
to
note
something
you
know
either
way,
you
say
that
I
think
what
we
learned
today,
there's
a
big
gap.
If
that's
what
our
role
is,
because
there
is
no
provision
for
environmental
impact
studies
that
relate
back
to
how
the
community
is
affected
by
land
use
operational
matters
of
existing
facilities
and
infrastructure
projects.
H
You
know
in
the
city
code
and
I
think
as
we
work
through
potentially
participating
in
the
process
to
you
know
rewrite
some
of
those
sections
or
add
some
new
Provisions,
I
I
know
I
advocated
and
worked
in
an
environment
where
there
was
a
very
rigorous
environmental
study
and
review
process
in
my
professional
practice
in
New
England,
and
but
you
know
it's
a
little
different
here
and
even
when
we
do
raise
issues.
B
A
So
we
do
have
a.
A
Second
I,
like
I,
said
I
would
be
to
amending
or
like
to.
If
we
could,
you
know
you
know
objective
our
current
objective
and
the
rest
of
the
document
as
it
is
I've
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
great
I
think
we
did
a
lot
of
work.
I.
Think
we've
done
a
lot
of
disco
studying
Merida
you're
right.
We
need
to
to
move
forward
pass
this
and.
A
L
Micah,
when
you
drew
this
up,
what
does
this
objective
add
to
the
existing
objective.
L
M
It's
the
word
potential
is
in
here
twice,
which
is,
you
know,
has
some
kind
of
redundant
sense,
but
but
it
also
talks
about
being
proactive
instead
of
just
reactive,
you
know
being
looking
forward
and
anticipating
also
with
trends
that
impact
our
community
environmentally
yeah.
I.
Think,
like
Maria,
said
a
lot
of
that
is
more
or
less
implied
in
the
current
objective.
A
And
this
was
trying
to
I,
guess
spell
out
a
lot
more
of
those
aspects,
because
I
think
our
board
already
is
proactive,
even
though
it
doesn't
say
that
in
here
specifically
to
be
those
are
things
that
that
things
that
are,
that
falls
within
being
proactive
or
reactive.
A
So
that
that's,
why
sometimes
saying
less
is
more
and
that's
that's
why
I
wasn't
so
sure
after
reading
this
and
then
when
I
couple
of
double
potential
and
impact
in
there
twice,
I
thought
maybe
there's
something
that
we
can.
We
hope
honing.
C
L
H
Well
on,
procedurally,
we
would
need
to
have
this
city
council
improve
our
basically
update
or
revise
our
Charter
with
this
new
language
yeah.
So
why
don't
we
operate
under
our
current
and
then
at
some
time
that
you
know
this
is
reworded
perhaps,
and
it
goes
to
the
city
council
gets
you
know
revised
in
in
terms
of
you
know
what
this,
how
this
board
was
established,
then
it
gets
put
back
in
here
for
further
Clarity,
but
we
just
continue
to
operate
as
we
are
based
on.
H
You
know
the
provisions
and
that
create
the
environmental
Advisory
Board.
Today
we
can't
change
those
yeah.
A
And
I
think
and
and
I
agree
interpretation
I
think
having.
E
A
Interpretation
is
more
helpful
than
having
a
more
narrow
interpretation,
just
in
general,
because
I
think
that
leaves
us
open
to
more
opportunity
and
more
option
to
be
helpful
and
to
serve
and
affect
change.
O
I,
don't
have
the
two
in
front
of
me,
but
just
from
based
on
what
you
said.
Is
there
a
way
to
maybe
merge
the
two,
because
I
think
there
was
some
key
words
in
the
new
one
like.
K
O
Multi-Directional
I'm
talking
about
the
regional
and
the
state,
maybe
it
could
just
be
added
to
the
original
one,
but
I
do
agree
that
that
last
part
of
the
new
one,
really
this
last,
like
six
words
I,
think
could
just
be
eliminated
because
you
already
talked
about
potential
impact
in
the
new
city.
Potentially
so
perhaps
just
taking
some
of
the
keywords
out
of
the
new
one
and
inserting
it
into
the
old
one.
Yeah.
A
Yeah
I
think
that
would
further
help
further
Define.
What
we're
trying
to
do
I
agree.
I
am
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
those
exact
words
would
be
and.
D
Certainly
take
a
stab
at
it
in
the
next.
You
know
we
have
another
meeting
in
October.
You
know
we
will
take
a
stab
at
making
some
adjustments
and
see
if
we
can
Wordsmith
it.
If
that's
what
what
you'd
like,
if.
M
We
did
that,
then
you
know
it
sounds
like
we're
really
in
the
process
of
reevaluating
our
our
objective
to
some
degree
like
what
this
you
know.
Our
board
would
like
to
do,
and
so
would
we
then
bring
that
new
objective
to
council
and
ask
for
a
charter
change
for
the
group
yeah.
H
If
I
may,
okay
like
to
amend
the
motion
to
insert
the
current
language
and
approve
the
rest
of
the
document,
as
is.
M
F
A
Now
yeah!
Well
now
that's
what
our
vote
will
be
on
that
motion.
We
have
a
second
all
in
favor,
aye
aye,
all
right
any
opposed
all
right.
Well
then,
we
approve,
we
have
approved
our
new
Mission
alignment
and
we'll
see
I
guess
at
our
next
meeting
in
October.
He
said
we'll
have
maybe
get
together.
Do
some
writing
some
Ed
fit.
A
You
know
if
we,
if
we
need
to
change
and
then
we
can
send
that
forward
to
city
council
now
before
we
move
on
I
think
we
do
have
to
open
up
the
discussion
to
anyone
here
and
to
please
step
forward
and
see
their
name
and
if
not,
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
item
or
4.2
review
of
the
first
year
of
Energy
savings
with
synergistic
yeah.
D
Right
Melody's
going
to
provide
us
some
some
background
on
on.
What's
occurred
and
I
know
that
the
powerpoint's
not
going
to
not
going
to
work,
so
you
won't
be
able
to
see
the
information
unless
you
have
it
with
you.
But
oh
maybe
it'll
work
nope,
but
take
it
away.
Melody.
P
P
We
should
have
the
graphs
in
front
of
you,
but
I'll
do
my
best
to
Showcase
to
you
what
we
have
achieved
through
the
program,
so
background
information
for
the
program
so
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
to
meet
the
goals
in
green
print.
2.0
the
CDs
this
you
know
all
the
city
decided
to
commit
to
increased
energy
efficiency
by
partnering,
with
synergistic,
to
reduce
electricity
and
natural
gas,
water
usage
in
City
facilities
by
20
over
five
years.
P
The
program
started
in
March
2022
last
year
and
we've
set
the
Baseline
year
as
March
2019
to
February
2020,
to
avoid
the
pandemic
period,
and
so
through
the
program
synergistics
has
been
working
very
closely
with
City
departments
in
you
know
aligning
the
HVAC
usage
against
our
facilities,
occupancy
timings
and
then
they
are
also
working.
They've
also
worked
to
adjust
temperature
set
points
according
to
a
new
city
policy
that
we
have
set
forth
through
the
program
for
energy
conservation.
P
Yeah
and
that's
you
know
when
your
has
passed
in
terms
of
electricity
consumption,
we've
seen
nine
percent
reduction
over
the
last
year
compared
to
the
Baseline
year
and
during
the
summer
month
of
June
to
September.
Last
year
there
was
a
13
reduction.
P
P
You
know
actually
illustrates
that
the
energy
the
city
is
saving
now
is
more
valuable
than
before,
and
the
total
told
many
saved
in
year.
One
has
a
sum
of
450
000,
11.,
450,
000
113
dollars,
and
that's
just
purely
electricity
and
natural
gas
savings.
P
It
could
also
mean
that
we've
reduced
5
million
miles
vehicle
miles
driven
by
an
average
vehicle.
It
would
also
mean
the
equivalent
to
36
000
trees
planted
and
grown
for
10
years,
and
also
750
or
757
tons
of
waste
recycled
just
for
illustrative
purposes.
A
P
Looks
like
there
was
some
proposal
brought
forth
by
synergistic,
to
increase
rather
upgrade
certain
equipments
in
some
of
the
facilities
that
we
have
and
we're
in
this
discussion
with
General
services
to
see
how
that
would
work
out,
and
that
includes
you
know
it's
just
as
an
example.
Adding
mini
split
systems
in
certain
levels
of
a
building
and
then
also
just
making
sure
that
some
of
our
supposed
automated
HVAC
system
is
working
properly
and
that
will
require
some
initiatives
to
come.
Look
at
and
run
a
study
and
do
upgrades
if
necessary,.
A
And
one
last
question
from
myself:
using
this
savings
and
moving
forward
with
more
savings
or
the
exponential
savings
from
this,
is
there
a
discussion
or
how
can
we
move
forward
with
a
green
fund?
I
think
our
boards
brought
that
up
in
the
past
and
other
is
there
something
that
that
this
will
help
move?
That
idea
forward
help
with
that.
D
With
that
yeah
I
think
part
of
this,
we
do
want
to
build
into
the
next
couple
meetings
and
I
think
we
have
it
set
up
for
maybe
the
next
meeting
the
October
meeting
to
talk
about
the
green
fund.
It's
difficult
right
now
because
of
the
spike
in
in
the
rates.
It's
not
necessarily
dollar
savings
to
the
city,
rather
cost
avoidance.
B
B
B
D
A
L
Okay,
I
do
I
have
two
things:
I
was
afraid
that
you
were
going
to
say
this
is
cost
avoidance
and
not
actual
savings.
I
was
afraid
that
would
be
the
approach
of
the
city
which
I
wish.
It
were
different
synergistic
projected
savings
for
the
city.
How
how
what
have
they
accomplished
in
relation
to
their
project
projection.
D
Yeah,
if
they
did
not
achieve
them
at
this
point,
they
have
not
been
able
to
hit
the
number
that
they
originally
proposed.
So
when
we
originally
entered
into
the
agreement
or
discussed
an
agreement
with
synergistic,
it
was
a
50
50
split
and
the
city
council
at
that
time
decided
that
that
they
did
not
want
to
move
forward,
and
the
mayor
had
suggested
an
alternative
approach
which
basically
ensured
that
they
didn't
split
the
savings
with
it
with
us,
but
they
also
did
not.
We
could
not
lose
money
on
any
year
of
this.
D
So
if
we
don't
save
us
enough
money
to
offset
that,
then
we
get
money
back
from
synergistic
or
we
can
we
can
if
they
choose
not
to
pay
that
money,
we
can
end
the
contract
with
them.
There
is
an
element
here
that
we're
still
working
through
with
them
that
really
relates
to
water
and
water
is
not
part
of
what
you've
seen
here.
So
you
see
the
470
thousand
dollars
that
isn't
inclusive
of
all
of
the
savings
that
the
city
received.
It's
only
inclusive
of
the
gas
and
the
electricity
savings.
D
When
we
finalize
the
water
element
and
there's
some
complications
to
it
that
are
billing
related.
We
want
to
make
sure
those
are
correct.
Before
we
bring
It
Forward,
then
we
will
be
able
to
identify
whether
or
not
they
owe
us
any
money
or
not
we're
hopeful
that
they
will
mine.
There
are
a
lot,
a
number
of
areas
that
we
can
see
further
Improvement
in
in
year.
Two,
some
of
them
are,
you
know,
areas
that
we
just
didn't
focus
on
as
much
or
they
didn't
focus
on
as
much
in
the
first
year
fire.
D
D
If
we
want
to
achieve
the
highest
level
of
savings,
it
probably
makes
sense
to
do
some
of
them
and
the
ones
that
I'm
talking
about
aren't
necessarily
I
like
the
Mini
Splits
but
simpler
things
like
DC
thermal
thermostats,
that
can
lock
people
out
or
that
can
be
monitored
more
remotely,
and
so
that
you
know
exactly
when
they're,
when
somebody's
attempted
to
drop
the
temp
or
or
they
just
simply
cannot
adjust
the
temperature.
D
There
are
a
number
of
spaces
in
the
city
that
do
not
have
those
upgraded
and
are
just
more.
You
know,
manual,
change
items
and
and
it's
you
know,
we
could
have
a
thousand
energy
managers
and
they
can't
be
everywhere
at
one
time
right,
so
they'll
adjust
it
back
up
to
where
it
is.
Somebody
could
come
in
right
behind
them
and
adjust
it
back
down,
so
we're
going
through
the
process
now
building
maintenances
in
making
that
adjustment,
and
that
will
help
us
it's
a
low
cost
to
us.
It's
probably
ultimately
about
ten
thousand
dollars.
D
It's
nothing
and
I
think
there's
probably
a
lot
of
savings
we
can
achieve
from
that
and
sort
of
synergistic.
So
that's
one
area
where
we
could
see
a
big
bump
for
the
next
year
and
then
you
know,
like
I,
said
tackling
some
of
those
other
areas
like
fire
and
and
PD
and
they've
in
both
groups
have
been
very
positive
about
that.
Both
fire
MPD
have
been
very
positive
too,
and
some
of
the
changes
we're
bringing
forward
so.
B
L
Sounds
good
one
last
question:
you
reference
some
policy
changes
policies
at
the
work
policies
of
people
have
to
follow
yeah.
Can
you
give
an
example
of
what
one
of
those
is
so.
P
It
was
us
energy
conservation
policy
for
All
City
staff,
and
within
that
document
there
were
certain
recommended,
set
points
for
different
seasons
and
there's
some
I
believe
reminders
too
on
you
know
like
good
behaviors
in
terms
of
like
shutting
off
your
workstation
when
you're
going
on
vacation
and
other
appliances
as
well.
We
do
have
created
a
one-pager
information
sheet
as
well
off
of
that
policy
to
send
it
to
All
City
departments
and
staff,
members
for
distribution
and
awareness
about
alcohol
s
I'm
able
to
share
that
with
you
as
well
as
well.
L
P
P
D
D
Set
point
required
by
synergistic
as
part
of
our
contract.
They
required
us
to
put
into
place
this
policy
that
identified.
You
have
to
be
within
this
range
by
City
policy,
which
gives
them
the
ability
to
come
in
there
and
alter
it
up
or
down.
There's
there's
some
exceptions
to
it.
When
we're
having
large
events,
you
know
different
scenarios,
but
by
and
large
that's
the
city
manager
signed
off
policy
that
all
employees
must
keep
their
spaces
to
this
temperature.
D
D
No,
really,
as
it
relates
to
equipment
upgrades
like
you
know,
new
air
conditioners,
those
sorts
of
things.
It's
synergistic
makes
recommendations,
that's
not
something
they
necessarily
get
credit
for
they
don't.
You
know,
they'll
they'll
adjust
the
base
year,
based
on
whatever
that
new
unit
is
because
they're,
not
necessarily
providing
us
the
savings.
The
the
higher
sear
rating
is
so
that
is
sort
of
an
active
thing
that
we
work
through
with
them.
A
H
Know,
there's
a
lot
of
focus
from
people
on
the
the
dollars
and
the
cents
saved,
but
I
think
there's
the
green
Side
Of
The
Ledger,
all
the
things
that
you
pointed
out.
The
achievements
that
will
be
realized
year
after
year
and
I
think
the
city
should
be
commended,
for
you
know,
structure
and
the
kind
of
arrangement
with
synergistic
that
might
outlined
that
there
really
won't
be
it's
risk-free
and
the
winds
that
you
summarize
in
the
beginning,
fantastic
great
job.
A
I
I
That
Brian
Beckman
it
is
exciting
to
see
that
happen.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
continuing
to
be
a
force
behind
that.
The
one
thing
that
John
just
made
me
think
of
is
the
context
of
the
goal
that
the
city
has
set
for
clean
energy
goals
for
City
operations
and
getting
there
through.
Basically,
three
means
through
energy
efficiencies
is
one
Avenue.
I
The
Second
Avenue
is
installing
our
own
renewable
energy,
I.E,
solar
and
then
the
third
is
purchasing
the
remaining
that
you
can
achieve
through
those
first
two
and
had
that
be
renewable
energy,
just
like
when
you
sign
up
for
clean
Ing
and
so
back
to
the
part
that
melody
was
just
presenting
there.
Do
you
have?
How
would
that
rate
in
the
percentage
of
achieving
the
goal
that
you
have
as
the
I
forget
the
first
near
terrible
if
it
was
20,
30
or
2035.?
D
Believe
that
the
five
percent
it
was
the
the
intended
number
was
five
percent
that
we
would
eventually
Reduce
by
by
year,
five
at
the
very
least,
be
able
to
have
reduced
CD
energy
usage
by
five
percent.
So
it
was
about
five
percent
of
that
total
usage.
We're
behind
that
we're.
You
know
we
anticipated
being
a
little
ahead
of
where
we're
at
currently
that
it's
about
five
percent,
if
I
remember
correctly
and
I'll,
try
to
pull
that
document
up
to
list
that
out,
I
think
Mr
Beckman
is
correct.
D
It's
we
do
have
a
document
that
that
outlines
that
90
sure
it's
five
percent,
like
I,
said
we're
a
little
behind
us.
We
need
to
do
some
ketchup
on
it.
D
I'm,
just
talking
about
the
overall,
the
overall
usage
yeah.
M
A
Are
you,
okay
with
that
yeah?
Okay,
all
right,
any
other
comments
from
the
audience.
Thank
you.
Brian.
We'll
move
on
to
our
next
item.
Then
4.3
review
of
solar
implementation
plan
right
on
Queue.
D
This
was
also
presented
to
city
council
at
that
same
meeting
that
we
discussed
synergistic
with
them.
You
know
this
is
basically
our
plan.
It's
it's
I'm
not
going
to
call
it
a
loose
Barn,
because
this
is
what
we're
intending
on
doing,
but
there
are
pieces
that
may
move
between
them
right.
We
actually
have
more
expense
listed
in
this
item.
Then
we
have
Revenue.
Currently,
hopefully
we
can.
We
can
change
that
at
some
point,
but
we
expected
some
of
the.
D
The
estimations
will
be
different
than
what
we're
actually
able
to
do
based
on
what
is
ultimately
engineered,
and
we
also
anticipate
that
some
of
the
projects
may
have
some
other
issues
related
to
whether
or
not
we
can
install
you
know
the
items
where
we'd
like
to
install
them.
One
specific
one
that
I'll
get
to
in
a
moment
is
Countryside
Recreation,
but
let
me
just
start
with
the
fleet.
D
Building
that
are
is
our
first
facility
that
we're
looking
at
installing
the
study
that
we
did
and
actually
when
we,
when
we
did
our
solar
study,
our
full
solar
study,
Mr
Beckman
identified
the
IRA,
we've
included
savings
related
to
the
IRA,
so
the
cost,
if
we
utilize
the
iri
and
if
we,
if
we
don't
original
the
original
number
that
we
were
using,
was
the
without
the
IRA
because
it
didn't
exist.
D
It
exist
at
that
point,
but
as
it
came
into
came
in
as
an
opportunity,
we
actually
had
the
consultant
add
that
element
in
so
we
have
both
numbers
as
far
as
savings
is
concerned.
D
But
you
know
our
first
building
is
the
fleet
building
and
the
reason
it's
our
first
one
is
because
it's
a
it's
a
very
large
space
that
we
can
achieve
about.
85
savings
on
it
needs
a
brand
new
roof.
It's
an
expensive
roof,
but
it's
going
to
happen
one
way
or
another,
so
the
building
probably
beneficial.
D
It
is
the
home
of
the
building
maintenance
department,
who
will
be
running
a
number
of
these
projects,
so
they're
going
to
have
to
have
an
opportunity
to
experience
it
on
their
own
facility,
which
is
probably
good,
and
they
don't
have
to
travel
far
to
maintain
them
either.
So
that's
a
good
thing
too.
D
The
second
one
that
we're
looking
at
looking
at
doing
is
is
Countryside
rack
that
one's
a
little
a
little
hairier
only
because
there
has
been
some
roof
leak
issues
on
that
facility,
even
though
we
did
a
a
re-roofing
on
it
in
December
of
I
think
it
was
21.
D
as
of
today
I
believe
they
may
have
identified
what
the
issue
is
and
I.
Hopefully
it
will
not
preclude
us
from
putting
solar
on
the
roof.
It's
solar,
ready
right.
We
have
the
piping
ready
to
go.
We
have
brackets
that
were
installed,
you
know
as
part
of
the
installation,
but
it
sounds
like
we.
We
might
have
found
the
issue
and
I,
and
hopefully
it's
not
going
to
preclude
anything
so
more
to
come
on
that
we'll
update
you
as
we
move
forward,
so
that
one
was
intended
to
be
our
second
installation.
It
may
flip.
D
With
with
what
is
number
three
on
the
on
the
list,
which
is
our
solid
waste.
Transfer
Station,
it's
a
newer
building,
it
does
not
need
a
new
roof,
but
it's
in
a
great
spot
for
them
for
solar
and
so
it'll
be
more
of
a
retrofit.
So
we're
going
to
start
down
that
process
after
the
fleet
building
and
potentially
after
Countryside
react
we'll
manage
that
as
we
as
we
as
we
go
through.
D
We
also
have
just
skipping
down
to
the
line
right
below,
and
you
know
just
so
you're
aware
that
the
two
that
are
here
I've
I've
identified,
they
said
as
general
Services,
which
is
our
Fleet
and
building
maintenance
group
and
then
a
set
as
engineering
engineering's
items
are
really
more
for
the
new
buildings
and
those
installs
that
wouldn't
really
affect
existing
buildings.
Osceola
garage,
which
is
the
one
that's
going
to
be
across
from
the
old
city
hall
and
next
to
east
memorial,
is
planned
to
have
solar
installed
on
it.
D
The
Long
Center
is
an
item
that
it's
a
retrofit
for
the
building,
but
it's
so
substantial.
It
really
required
engineering
to
take
on
that
project
that
one
we
will
have
we'll
have
some
conversation
at
an
upcoming
meeting.
I
do
not
have
a
date
at
this
point
from
engineering,
but
they're
going
to
be
identifying
a
couple.
Different
options
related
to
The
Natatorium,
and
you
know
whether
or
not
it
should
it
should
exist
in
its
current
form
or
some
alternative
form.
So
that
will
all
affect
our
the
amount
of
solar.
D
We
can
place
on
the
Long
Center,
so
we're
waiting
to
have
that
conversation
with
Engineering
in
the
city
council,
and
then
we
have
a
couple
different
projects
which
I've
highlighted
in
yellow
on
the
documents
that
we
sent
out.
One
is
North
Greenwood
and
the
other
is
fire
station
46.,
you
may
remember:
Fire
Station
46
was
intended
to
have
solar
and
we
budgeted
some
dollars
for
solar
for
it's
a
during
the
Engineering
Process.
D
The
engineers
have
ident,
went
ahead
and
identified
that
we
could
not
install
on
those
facilities
because
of
wind
loads
and
the
inability
to
utilize
the
peel
and
stick
solar
array.
We
went
back
and
forth
with
them.
Ultimately,
it
was
determined
that
you
know
they
would
not
provide
us
signed
and
sealed
document
that
would
allow
for
this.
We
have
explored
some
Alternatives,
though,
and
they
relate
to
the
north
Greenwood
Library,
potentially
Fire
Station
46,
which
we
think
is
a
great
opportunity
and
and
potentially
even
the
beach
library
in
Rec
Center.
D
D
And
bring
that
building
online,
we
added
a
conduit
in
from
the
parking
lot
to
the
building
so
that,
as
we
move
forward
with
you
know
the
parking
lot
install,
we
won't
have
to
mess
with
the
envelope
of
that
building
or
rip
up
the
the
parking
lot
that
is
in
between
them.
That
is
the
the
driveway
in
essence,
for
the
fire
station,
we're
looking
at
doing
something
similar
at
the
North
Greenwood
Library.
D
D
Looking
at
trying
to
put
something
in
between
and
figuring
out
which
facility
it
will
power
the
pool
or
the
beach
and
record
Library.
So
that
is
another
one.
That's
a
little
further
out.
The
other
two
that
we
have
on
here.
One
is
the
MSB
garage
we're.
Actually,
at
the
time
of
that,
we
sent
this
out.
We
weren't
sure
what
we
were
going
to
be
able
to
do
we're
not
totally
sure
yet
still,
but
we
may
be
able
to
bring
the
power
over
to
the
police
station.
D
Our
original
thought
was,
we
won't
be
able
to
because
of
issues
related
to
net
metering
and
not
not
being
on
the
same
parcel
as
the
police
department.
However,
it
appears
that
we
may
be
able
to
provide
power
to
the
police
station
without
a
net
metering
agreement,
assuming
we
we
are
generating
a
lot
lower
than
than
the
building
is
utilizing
the
police
department's
utilizing
we're
still
working
through
some
of
that.
D
Our
alternative
to
that
in
both
the
MSB
garage
and
the
Garden
Avenue
garage
relates
to
EV
vehicles
and
for
those
the
driver
really
would
be
Us
increasing,
increasing
creating
our
EV
Fleet.
We
currently
do
not
have
any
Ed
Vehicles
unless
they
got
one
past
me
that
I'm
not
aware
of,
but
we
are
planning
for
a
number
of
those
in
our
green
Fleet
policy.
We're
also
you
know
looking
at
where
we
need
to
be
placing
our
our
power
upgrades
for
the
charging
stations
and
we've
been
talking
with
a
number
of
the
other
communities
in
Pinellas
County.
D
Because
of
you
know,
this
is
like
this
is
a
very
dense
County,
as
we
all
know,
and
the
grid
does
not
care
about
those
boundaries.
In
many
situations,
so
we
are
trying
to
work
with
those
other
communities
to
find
out
where
they
need
to
put
their
infrastructure
and
where
we
need
to
put
it
so
that
we
can
provide
that
information
to
Duke
Energy
and
they
can
create
a
grid
that
you
know
that
really
works
well
for
all
of
us
in
our
planned.
You
know
EV
conversions.
D
We
did
have
and
have
just
recently
canceled
in
order
for
two
EV
rear
load
Vehicles,
we
canceled
those
because
of
some
issues
related
to
manufacturing.
These
were
vehicles
that
had
never
been
used
before.
They
were
basically
pilot
Vehicles,
a
lot
of
issues
as
it
relates
to
them,
trying
to
manufacture
them
and
get
something
that
will
really
work
when
we
saw
where
they
were
at,
we
took.
We
made
the
decision
that
we
look.
D
D
There
are
some
that
we
are
also
looking
at
that
have
been
tested
and
are
proven.
I
believe
Mac
is
the
one
that
is
the
best
option,
so
we're
not
abandoning
that.
We
just
don't
feel
comfortable
using
those
vehicles
that
have
not
been
tested
and
they're
struggling
with
right
now,
so
we've
sort
of
moved
off
of
that
and
we're
trying
to
focus
in
on
something
a
little
different.
That
makes
a
little
more
sense.
D
That's
that
is
what
I
got
if
you
have
any
comments,
I'm
happy
to.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
I
think
it's
great
that
we're
finally
receiving
this,
that
it's
been
put
together.
I'll
I,
I
I'd
like
to
see
you
know
where
all
of
these
items
are
complete
but
yeah.
It
sounds
like
we're
quite
a
few
years
off
from
yep.
D
And
and
I've
built
into
and
we
get
to
the
near
term
items
I've
got
an
update
for
for
you
all
planned
further
in
the
year
where
we
can
get
you
updated
on
some
of
these
installations,
so
we're
trying
to
build
those
things
in.
So
it's
not
so
we're
not
missing
them
right
and
we're
prepared
for
those
conversations,
and
you
all
can
expect
this
is
you
know
this
is
when
we're
going
to
get
this
update
same
with
green
print
same
with
with
ready
for
100.
L
Yeah
well
I
just
think
it's
great
I
find
it
very
exciting,
I'm
very
happy
to
hear
that
I'm
also
happy
to
hear
you
talk
about
EV
charging.
Yesterday
I
struggled
all
over
Largo
trying
it's
it's
hard
to
find
an
EV
charging
place
and
when
you
look
at
the
map
of
on
the
app
of
all
the
available
charging
places,
there's
hardly
anything
in
Clear
Water,
but
there's
things
in
Largo
things
in
St
Pete.
So
I'm
really
happy
to
hear
about
these
plans.
Yeah.
D
And
hopefully
our
I
believe
Melody
identified
not
to
you
all,
but
in
an
email
to
Mr
breckman
yesterday
that
we're
probably
about
a
month
out
on
our
five
Ed
Chargers
in
the
park.
So
that's
exciting
and
we're
happy
to
be
hoping
to
get
those
online
soon
and
we'll
see
how
it
goes
so.
M
D
The
park
down
the
down
the
hill
on
Pierce,
okay,.
D
Connect
to
the
link
is
the
as
the
vendor
that
we've
used
yeah,
it's
the
same
one
that
we've
used
in
Garden.
It
seems
like
the
app
is
getting
a
little
a
little
better.
We
did
have
some
struggles
with
it.
Melody
did
a
great
job,
you
know
putting
holding
them
into
the
fire
and
trying
to
make
some
adjustments
to
that
and,
and
it
seems
to
be
improving.
M
D
D
I
Thank
you,
Brian
Beckman,
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
caught
it
in
in
your
very
long
list,
which
was
fantastic,
so
the
new
city
hall
that
is
being
planned
and
that's
planned
to
have
solar
as
well
correct,
I,
didn't
know.
D
If
you
heard
that
so
we
haven't
gotten
to
that
stage,
we
we
had
had
conversation
every
step
of
the
way
with
City
admin
about
it
about
having
solar
in
it.
So
I
think
everybody
knows
the
city
hall
project
sort
of
derailed.
We
were
about
to
get
into
the
solar
element
when
kind
of
scope
changed.
Now
that
we're
back
on
the
path
yeah,
we
thoroughly
intend
to
have
solar
on
that
building.
Yeah.
I
D
M
Fire
station
on
near
the
high
school-
yes
47
47
their
has
that
been-
is
that
in
the
works
at
all.
D
It
is
yeah
they're
in
design
now
they're
looking
at
it,
that's
a
pretty
wooded
area,
so
it's
going
to
be
a
little
harder
to
get
the
the
sunlight
from
what
I
understand,
but
they
have
expressed
to
me-
and
we
have
a
great
advocate
in
engineering
that
is,
is
pushing
for
you
know
solar
and
different.
D
You
know
sustainability
related
items
on
all
of
these
project
projects,
so
you
know,
he's
actually
informed
me
the
other
day
that
they've
actually
identified
that
they're
going
to
put
an
induction
oven
in
that
building
or
arrange
in
that
building,
which.
B
M
D
So
historically,
there
was
a
policy
that
that
in
essence,
required
for
solid
waste
and
for
and
for
gas
required
any
construction
project,
new
construction
project
for
them
to
use
our
Solid
Waste
roll-offs,
rather
than
private
roll-offs
and
required
us
to
put
not
evaluate,
but
it
put
in
gas.
Just.
D
Good,
we
have
amended
that
so
that,
instead
of
just
blindly
focused
on
on
putting
in
the
gas
that
we
will
look
at
and
that
was
done,
n47
what
makes
sense
in
that
facility
and
and
not
just
gas
right
making
assumptions
about.
You
know
hey.
This
is
going
to
impact
our
bottom
line,
but
what
is
the
environmental
impact?
What
is
the
financial
impact?
You
know
what
can
actually
be
placed
into
this
building
based
on
the
footprint
of
the
site,
those
sorts
of
things,
so
it.
B
M
Was
so
what
that
means
is
that
for
any
new
construction,
there'll
be
what
I
understand
they'll,
be
you
know
a
hiring
of
a
third
party
to
evaluate
the
you
know
to
look
at
the
lifetime,
cost
benefit
of
different
gas
systems
versus
other
systems.
Yeah.
D
So
so,
in
some
instances
they
would
use
it.
It
really
depends
on
the
complexity
of
the
install
Okay.
In
some
cases
it
may
be
that
we're
able,
as
the
office
of
innovation,
to
provide
some
some
feedback
on
those
things.
Sometimes
it's
the
architect
that
is
able
to
do
it.
It
really
just
depends
on
the
complexity
of
the
installation.
The
fire
stations
can
be
a
little
more
complex
because
of
some
of
the
requirements
that
they
have,
but
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Sometimes
it's
it's.
You
know
it.
D
It
comes
down
to
whether
or
not
policy
the
city
is
to
require.
D
You
know
a
certain
level
of
of
Appliance
commercial
versus
residential.
You
know
that's
a
conversation
that
we've
had
and
are
having
related
to
any
facility
fire
station.
Recreation
Center
like
what's
the
need
there,
you
know,
what's
the
expectation
of
City
admin
at.
A
All
right,
and
neither
no
more
comments
on
the
board,
no
more
comments
from
the
audience.
We'll
move
on
to
our
next
item:
4.4,
aab
legislative
priorities.
D
So
I
have
added
in
the
2023
legislative
priorities.
I
think
we've
talked
in
the
past
about
wanting
to
get
these
to
the
clerk's
office
for
Nicole's
benefit,
so
that
you
know
when
we
come
forward
to
council
and
usually
around
October
they've
got
an
idea
of
what
the
boards
have
an
interest
in.
You
know
if
there
are
items
that
on
this
sheet,
that
we
agree
with
or
disagree
with,
or
that
aren't
even
on
this,
and
this
is
last
year's
right.
So
some
of
these
not
an
issue
anymore.
D
Some
of
them
are
but
I
just
wanted
to
provide
you
something.
So
you
could
see
what
we
brought
forward
last
year,
but
if
there's
anything
the
board
is
passionate
about
or
that
you
would
like
to
take
a
stance
on.
We
will
then
communicate
that
to
to
the
city
council
and
let
you
know
when
we're
going
to
have
a
conversation
about
it.
So
if
you
want
to
send
a
representative,
you
certainly
can.
L
L
About
about
this
2023
one,
the
sustainability
and
resilience
I
I
like
that
I
hope
it
stays
in
the
2024
to
what
these
folks
were
talking
about
earlier.
L
A
Stuff
I'll
say:
there's
one
I,
I,
guess:
there's
there's
something
that
I've
noticed
the
last
few
years
and
as
at
a
residential
level
and
now
I'm,
seeing
it
from
commercial
sales
as
artificial,
turf
and
I
think
that
in
the
past
this
board
has
had
presentations
on
it.
Well
before
I
was
serving
on
this
board,
though.
A
So
over
a
decade
ago,
proliferation
of
the
of
the
sales
and
use
of
our
Arnold
turf
city
has
impervious
surface
rules
and
I
just
I
wonder
if
there's
a
time
now
that
we
should
find
out
more
of
the
quality.
A
lot
of
these
are
made
out
of
plastics,
the
lifespan
of
them,
if
they
create
other
problems
for
Neighbors
Heat
is
one
of
them.
A
I
I
know
that
in
city
parks
there
is
artificial
turf
in
a
few
of
them
and
in
the
new
one
The
Coachman
Park
that
was
develop,
but
I
I
think
it'd
be
interesting
to
find
out
where
advances
have
been
made
and
and
turf
is
something
because
there
are
benefits
to
it,
using
less
water
and
having
a
green.
You.
A
Know
qualities
for
people
God,
I
I,
see
them
sold
at
Lowe's
now.
So
that's
where
I
feel.
A
M
I
think
I
mean
we
never
know
quite
what
we're
going
to
be
hit
with
in
a
legislative
session,
but
there's
been
a
proliferation
of
preemption
bills
that
have
affected
municipalities
and
in
terms
of
being
able
to
regulate
for
Environmental,
Protections
I
think
also
for
it
some
of
the
goals
in
green
print
last.
Let
me
see
last
last
year,
I
think
we
did
this
didn't
happen,
but
the
year
before
there
was
a
huge
bill.
M
It
was
finally
seven
I
can't
remember
what
a
743
or
something
like
that
where,
whereby
net
metering
was,
you
know
it
would
be
eliminated
over
time
and
that
would
have
had
a
tremendous
impact
on
our
solar
industry
here
in
Florida,
which
is
like
the
second
in
the
country
or
third
in
the
country
largest
nation
state,
with
solar
production
so
and
I'm
not.
You
know.
M
That
would
be
something
that
that's
some
the
kind
of
thing
that
I
think
the
students
should
be
watching
for
and
it
to
my
knowledge
that
was
not
on
their
radar
at
all.
That
bill
was
I,
think
we've
been
have
direct
impact
on
blueprint
goals
and
and
on
you
know,
anybody
who's
got
solar.
M
So
you
know
there
was
a
lot
of
talk.
I
was
in
Tallahassee.
M
I
think
was
what
it
was
since
2020.
it,
and
it
only
it
had
the
whole
Solar
industry
and
all
the
environmental
groups.
You
know
fighting
it,
and
it
was
just
at
the
last
minute
was
vetoed
by
the
governor,
which
was
was
amazing,
but
it
would
have
very
much
impacted
all
of
us
all
of
us
who
have
solar
and
then,
when
he's
considering
it.
A
All
right,
any
other
yeah.
H
Several
years
ago
we
did
have
a
tour
of
the
Cooper's
Bayou
property
that
really
is
not
accessible
to
the
public
at
this
time
and
I
think
there's
probably
federal
state
funding,
for
you
know
conservation
lands,
and
it's
not
clear.
You
know
what
the
management
plan
for
that
property
is
I
know
there
were
some
throat
discussions
about
connecting
the
end
of
the
Northern
end
of
the
peninsula
or
over
to
the.
H
H
It
just
to
me
it's
such
a
unique
piece
of
land
in
the
city
of
Clearwater's
portfolio
of
land
that
the
public
doesn't
have
access
to,
and
it
is
a
phenomenal
piece
of
property.
I
think
the
potential
for
Environmental
Education
there.
There
should
be
funds
available,
and
you
know
that
the
the
city
staff
work
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
bring
that
project
to
fruition
and
Achieve
Public
Access.
B
D
And
we
will
at
least
as
far
as
I
know
from
engineering
we
will
be
having
some
some
engineering
data
I
believe
30
percent
at
our
October
EAB
meeting,
and
so
we'll
get
the
preview
of
what
of
what
the
early
engineering
looks
like
for
Cooper's
Bayou.
But
the
point
we'll
take
it
on
the
on
the
the
funding
which
we
do
not
have
anything
allocated
to
right
now.
We
definitely
need
to
look
at
that
from
a
grant
perspective.
A
Anything
else
all
right,
we'll
move
on
to
where,
oh
anything
from
the
audience
please
step
forward.
Thank
you.
I
You're
so
kind
Brian
Beckman,
the
I,
don't
know
if
this
fits
into
State
Legislative
priorities,
but
we
assume,
however,
paying
attention
to
St
Petersburg
they're
been
considering
a
new
ordinance
as
as
I've
seen
it
similar
to
Largo's
on
having
allocating
so
many
EV
related
spaces
depending
upon
the
type
and
size
of
construction,
so
I
believe
that's
going
through
their
hers
committee.
I
I
I
Can
be
both
there's
different,
there's
different
items
that
they
include
in
the
ordinance
could
be
different.
It
is
usually
different
capabilities
that
are
included
various
capabilities
like
is
it
EV
capable?
Is
it
EV
ready
and
do
they
actually
have
charging
stations
here?.
I
That's
what
I
think
they're
mainly
are
considering
I
think
that's
what
Largo
has
and
I'm
not
firsthand
there
at
those
meetings
and
paying
attention
to
the
details
down
in
St
Petersburg
nowadays,
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
that
they
might
have
a
little
bit
more
than
what
Largo
currently
has
by
the
time
they
get
done
with
it.
But
I
I.
Don't.
M
Know
they're
looking
at
any
new
construction
that
has
20
20
parking
spots
or
more
to
have
and
I'm
trying
to
think
that
what
the
like
two
at
least
two
EV
charging
I
I,
it
might
be
a
percentage
of
whatever
the
number
of
parking
places.
They're
not.
M
A
Makes
it
yeah?
That's
that's
what
Brian
was
saying
in
Fargo
and
Saint
Pete,
I
I
think
it's
interesting.
The
charger
side
I
think,
would
be
something
that
we
should
look
at
as
far
as
EV
spaces
in
general.
I
think,
ultimately,
we're
moving
toward
all
EVS
in
terms
of
what
people
will
be
driving.
So,
ultimately,
all
spaces
will
be
EV
spaces.
A
M
But
when
that
happens,
you
know
people
are
going
to
make
decisions
about
where
they
want
to
live
and
where
they
were,
where
they
want
to
go
for
their
leisure
activities.
Based
on
on
what
you
know,
if
there
are
any
of
these
stations
there,
you
know
to
some
degree
people
charge
at
home,
but
you
know
when
people
are
coming
from
a
distance,
especially.
K
C
D
Right
so
it
sounds
like,
as
far
as
the
the
state
and
federal
legislative
priorities
and
the
desire
is
to
focus
on
the
preemption
of
local
control,
a
number
of
items,
the
net
metering
and
continuing
to
support,
retaining
that
system
and
and
looking
at
some
funding
for,
for
instance,
the
Cooper's
Bayou
project.
D
From
a
from
a
Land
Development
code
perspective,
we
would
want
some
additional
information
on
the
EV
spaces
and
requiring
them
in
certain
types
of
development
and
looking
at
the
impacts
of
artificial
turf
and
whether
we
should
or
should
not
allow
them
in
the
future.
It.
If
I
got
that
generally
correct.
D
I
I
will
find
out
when
the
code
amendments
in
the
next
round
is
and
I.
You
know
my
thought
is
whatever
date.
That
is
we'll
try
to
have
at
least
two
meetings
prior
to
that
date,
so
you
get
a
chance
to
review
it
and
then
give
them
some.
You
know
some
recommendations
based
on
your
you
know,
your
various
comments.
M
That's
great,
thank
you,
I
think
any
pre-exemptions
that,
for
example,
yeah
pre-exemptions
the
laws
that
are
bills
that
would
hamper
our
green
print
goals.
You
know
it
would
be
a
way
to
put
it
the
net
metering.
One
was
was
you
know
one
pronounced
one,
but
it's
coming
from
a
lot
of
different
directions:
the
building
regulations,
everything.
L
Marina
I
have
one
more
I'll,
try
some
quickly
being
mindful
of
time.
Some
of
the
bill,
Jones
I
referred
to
earlier.
The
coastal
conservation
line
yeah
some
sort
of
regulation
of
that
oversight
of
that
there
there's
a
proposal
at
North,
El
Dorado
that
it
be
waived
so
that
a
guy
could
build
his
pool
over
the
coastal
conservation
line
and
the
coastal
conservation
line
to
my
understanding
is
Environmental
Protection
for
the
water
for
all
of
us.
L
But
it's
also
my
understanding
that
nobody
really
patrols
this
and
it's
just
brought
before
the
council
or
whoever,
whatever
regulatory
board,
so
some
sort
of
oversight
in
the
coastal
conservation
lines,
strict
requirements
that
people
adhere
to
it,
that
any
that
somebody's
paying
attention
to
it.
H
M
H
M
I
think
that
was
her
yesterday
in
the
community
development
board
and
they
the
deterrent,
took
the
determination
as
I
understand.
It
was
that
they
are
not
allowed
they're
not
going
to
be
allowed
to
build
a
pool
but
the,
but
they
will
have
a
fence
where
I
guess
for
the
area
that
will
be,
but
it
will
be
a
it's
like
a
picket
fence,
and
so
it's
not
they're
allowing
a
picket
fence
to
breach
that
the
conservation
I
mean
the
coastal
yeah
line.
But
the
pool
won't
be
allowed.
There.
A
And
historically
and
Micah,
you
might
know
more
about
this
informationally
the
city
and
the
state
have
gone
back
and
forth
about
who
oversees
the
CCL
a
lot
throughout
the
city.
I
think
there's
been
homeowners
that
have
tried
to
sue
the
city
in
the
past
and
there's
been
losing
lawsuit.
I.
Think
that's
why
there
is
such
a
I
guess
it's
kind
of
a
free-for-all
there
to
a
certain
extent,
in
terms
of.
D
M
A
Thank
you
all
right,
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
item.
Then
4.5
the
fiscal
year
2024
budget
I
did
watch
some
of
that
presentation
at
the
work
session
and
so
a
lot
more
money
coming
in.
D
D
It's
very
late
in
the
process
for
the
budget,
but
as
we
move
forward
and
one
of
the
reasons
I
want
to
have
you
know,
the
budget
director
Caitlin
Castle
join
us
at
some
point
here
is-
is
to
find
out
where
the
best
spot
is
for.
K
D
A
timing
perspective
for
her
and
the
city
to
get
comments
about.
You
know
budgetary
priorities
that
the
board
might
have
hopefully
to
Hopeful
to
have
her
in
in
October
as
she
ends
this
budget
season
and
begins
to
relax
and
then
ramps
up
like
a
month
later
to
delve
into
next
year.
But
it
provides
you
a
couple
items
just
to
you
know,
put
stuff
on
your
radar.
A
couple
items.
Sorry
a
couple
items:
yes,.
D
D
The
the
second
item
that
I've
got
here
attached
is
some
of
our
FTE
changes,
so
you
can
kind
of
see
some
of
the
changes
that
are
occurring
and
the
reasons
for
them
which
they've
tried
to
spell
out
as
best
as
possible,
in
what
different
areas
they're
they're,
impacting
so
again,
just
informational,
and
certainly
if
you
have
any
thoughts
on
any
of
these
happy
to
happy
to
hear
I.
D
A
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
sharing
the
information.
There
was
also
the
55
some
odd
pages
of
the
the
budget
info
and
what
I
gleaned
from
reading
through
there
to
share
was
that
it
was
very
I
thought
I
liked
a
lot
of
the
forward-thinking
aspects
to
it
in
terms
looking
to
here
and
there
and
other
costs
money,
but
look
to
do
that.
Can
ultimately
save
money
and
I.
Think
that
not
everything
within
all
those
pages
really
Falls
within
what
we
would
do.
D
All
of
the
capital
items
in
that
six
year,
those
are
really
the
best
things
probably
to
affect
yeah
yeah.
It's
because
I
mean
y'all
have
y'all
are
different
people,
you
have
your
different
perspectives
and
you
know
sometimes
we
from
the
SAT
perspective,
get
locked
into.
You
know
what
we
normally
see
in
a
budget
and
what
we
normally
think
about
in
a
budget,
and
you
all
may
be
thinking
about
something
totally
different,
that
we
don't
understand.
So
you.
D
A
Well,
in
terms
of
that,
the
only
thing
and
it's
kind
of
a
it's
a
bit
outside,
but
it
was
something
I
noticed
in
the
FTE
aspect,
and
it
was
something
that
I
had
heard
from
in
the
community
was
just
about
Library
hours
and
not
having
staff
to
work
there
and
I
and
I
as
far
as
that
and
and
departmentally
it
didn't
look
like
they
were
on
there,
but
and
I
know,
that's
not
our
board
or
anything.
But
since
you
brought
it
up,
I
just
want
to
share
that.
That's
there.
D
Were
a
couple
Library
hour
changes
that
were
made
in
this
fiscal
year
that
aren't
necessarily
reflected
on
this
sheet,
but
where
we
extended
hours,
I
believe
at
North
Greenwood
at
least
Sundays.
Now,
they're
they've
actually
got
some
utilization
I.
D
A
D
You
get
ahead
of
me,
there
yeah
so
I've
identified
again,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
for
our
next
few
meetings.
Just
so,
we
can
try
to
get
a
good
Cadence
and
a
rhythm
for
the
next
meetings,
and
you
all
know
what
to
expect
and
we
can
obviously
adjust
these
because
I
know.
Sometimes
you
know
people
are
away.
People
are
have
other
things
going
on
in
their
life,
so
if
we
ever
need
to
move
any
of
these,
that's
not
necessarily
an
issue
in
October.
We
have
we're
we're
planning
on
bringing
forward.
D
Sarah
should
be
here
with
the
Coopers
Bayou
early
design,
so
we'll
be
sharing
that
with
you.
The
feed
bait
to
Green
fund
conversation
that
we
mentioned
earlier
and
and
conversation
with
the
budget
director
we're
planning
on
having
some
conversation
about
that,
the
herbicides
and
pesticides
we
weren't
able
to
get.
We
originally
planned
on
trying
to
do
that.
Today,
we
weren't
able
to
get
the
information
all
the
information
either
internally
or
with
the
county.
Yet
so
we
bumped
it
back
a
little
bit.
So
we
can
try
to
meet
everything
with
that.
I
think.
D
The
most
the
majority
of
that
of
the
issues
related
to
that
really
were
related
to
the
park
overall
staff
capacity.
That's
really
what
pushed
us
back
an
update
on
recycling
we're
going
to
have
some
recycling
updates
in
August
for
the
city
council,
okay,
yeah
I
thought
we
were
supposed
to
have
that
this
yep
yep
and
they're.
D
We
I
think
we've
come
to
some
early
agreement
and
began
to
draft
a
contract
with
one
of
the
recycling
entities,
so
we'll
be
able
to
report
out
on
that
and
about
the
refund
stuff
as
well,
and
then
I've
spoken
to
Parks
and
Recreation
about
the
master
plan.
You
may
see
some
public
information
opportunities
out
there.
D
I
have
included
for
our
October
meeting
them
coming
with
their
consultant
to
provide
an
update
to
you
all
before
it
gets
too
far
down
the
road
and
you
can't
make
any
amendments
to
it
or
or
it's
more
difficult
to
at
the
very
least.
So
we
are
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
building
that
into
your
to
your
general
work
plan
moving
into
January.
We
think
that
that's
when
the
best
opportunity
for
talking
about
budget
probably
is
we'll
talk.
More
with
Kayleen
about
it,
but.
D
This
meeting
as
well
forgotten
the
trees
and
that
you
are
correct,
sorry,
yeah
I,
mean
I
will
add
that
in
as
the
October
I
know,
that
Public
Public
Works
is
is
currently
working
on
ordinance
that
we
discussed
in
I
think
May
yeah.
It
was
made
okay.
D
M
I,
have
some
I
don't
want
to
interrupt
you,
no
good
with
the
I
wasn't
here.
I
was
out
of
the
country
and
at
the
main
meeting,
when
the
presentation
was
on
the
and
I
just
was
wondering
is
like
what
do
you
know?
Do
we
know
what
priority
they
asked
us
for
priorities
and
I
I
don't
know
did?
M
I
certainly
have
have
an
interest
in
seeing
our
tree
canopy
maintained
as
it
is
into
the
future.
Rather
than
and
I
thought
I
heard
I
mean
I
was
trying
to
you
know.
I
was
trying
to
listen
to
it
everywhere.
On
my
TV
on
my
computer.
M
Unless
I
could
hear
I
didn't
it
was
so
hard
to
hear
the
video
but
I
thought
I
heard,
maybe
from
the
from
our
arborist
in
parks
and
rec,
that
there
is
not
the
there's,
not
the
resources,
there's
not
staff
and
resources
to
maintain
archery
canopy
as
it
is
I,
don't
know.
If
I
heard
that
correctly
I.
D
Mean
I
think
that
that's
true
there
would
be
a
number
of
trees.
We
have
we're
under
resourced
we're
under
recently.
If
you
want
to
keep
it
to
the
the
canopy
to
the
level
it
is
and
the
level
of
service
to
the
level
that
we
trust
we
wanted,
there's
likely
not
not
enough
resources
currently-
and
you
know,
I-
think
we're
going
to
have
to
determine
what
those
things
are
and
adjust
those
resources
appropriately.
I
mean
I.
Think
that's
what
probably
makes
sense.
D
We
got
some
priorities
if
I
remember
correctly,
emailed
post,
painting
I'll
have
to
dig
back
through
those
and
can
certainly
kind
of
make
a
master
list
and
identify
it
for
everyone.
Yeah.
M
M
That
would
be
my
priority
to
maintain
our
three
commit.
Canopy
as
it
is
I
would
be.
You
know
somebody
as
my
HOA
president
in
my
neighborhood.
We
have
some
incredible
well
primarily
oak
trees
in
in
a
lot
of
the
right
away
and
some
and
some
of
the
suggestions
that
they
made.
That
would
take
changes
in
the
infrastructure
sidewalk.
M
That
kind
of
thing,
I
think
considering
the
heat
that's
coming
with
climate
change
in
this
area
that
we're
seeing
it
or
you
know
we're
already
seeing
it
this
summer
with
record-breaking
heat
day
after
day
after
day
and
I-
think
that
that
where
that
is
just
we're
looking
at
the
future-
and
so
you
know
keeping
our
communities
cool
and
it's
just
one
reason
to
maintain
the
tree.
M
Canopy
I
hate
to
imagine
those
trees
not
being
replaced
in
my
neighborhood
and
I
know
people
buy
and
want
to
live
in
the
neighborhood
in
neighborhoods
that
have
the
kind
of
tree
canopy
that
my
neighborhood
in
Morningside
has
I,
think
it's,
and
so
anyway,
there
are
so
many
reasons
they
were
given
by
by
Chuck.
You
know
at
our
last
meeting,
but
I,
don't
I
I,
don't
know
one
question
that
we
didn't
ask
was:
what
would
it
take?
A
A
wider
discussion
on
the
tree
issue,
Micah
any
other.
D
On
the
final
couple
that
we
have
we're
planning
on
doing
a
green
print
implementation
update
and
are
ready
for
100
update
in
January,
so
that
we
kind
of
make
sure
that
you
understand
where
we're
at
on
those
approaches
and
then
in
April
an
update
on
some
of
our
solar
installations,
based
on
on
our,
we
believe
the
timing
is
for
those
installs
and
then
in
July
right
now
we
have
revisiting
again
the
legislative
priorities
for
2025
and
also
looking
at
the
synergistic
year.
D
A
Wow,
thank
you,
I
think
the
only
other
thing
I
guess
it's
I,
don't
know
if
it
would
be
it's
near
term,
but
it
wouldn't
be
as
much
as
a
presentation
in
terms
but
in
October
I
guess
we'll
have
to
decide.
Then,
when
we
give
our
presentation
to
city
council,
it's
usually
November
or
sometimes
it's.
A
A
D
L
A
D
A
All
right
any
other
comments
from
the
board
about
near-term
items.
Any
comments
from
the
audience
please
come
forward.
No,
all
right!
Thank
you
for
putting
that
together.
We'll
move
on
to
our
next
item
old
business.
A
You
have
anything
might
get
anything
from
you.
I
have
nothing
John,
no
Glennon,
no
old
business
I
had
some
stuff.
I
was
gonna,
maybe
mention
during
my
here.
A
A
A
That
yeah
I
don't
know
if
you
read
that
meeting,
but
I
had
mentioned
that
you
know
driving
over
Bayside
bridge,
you
could
just
see
from
the
school
it's
right
in
front
of
Cooper's.
There's
Eagles
Nest
there
there's
other
Wildlife
at
the
back
there,
so
I'd
like
to
find
out
what
we
can
do
to
reduce
that
that
and
then
let
me
see
we
talked
about
Lake
Bellevue
as
well
and
Cooper's
Bayou.
As
far
as
like
field
trip
meetings,
we
just
talked
about
our
essential
right
October.
A
A
A
Know
see
what
it
looks
like
on
the
ground,
certainly
and
then
also
we
had
that
presentation
from.
A
Like
our
management
plan,
that
was
crafted
and
I
think
it'd
be
good.
If
we
could
go
out
there
and
see
how
things
are
as
well.
So
if
we
can
figure
out
how
to
put
those
I,
guess
that's
old
business,
but
if
it's
going
to
fit
into
it.
A
A
Oh
yeah,
at
our
last
meeting
also
Sarah
had
mentioned,
there
was
an
update
for
Stevenson
Creek.
There
was
a
management
plan
that
was
going
to
be
updated
in
the
next
couple
of
months.
So
I
guess
maybe
that'll
be
something
and
yeah.
A
Then
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
item
director's
report.
I
have
nothing!
Okay,
all
right
item,
seven
board
members
to
be
heard.
L
Marina
a
couple
of
things:
first
of
all,
this
is
a
very
media
agenda,
so
I
want
to
say
thank
you
very
much.
I
find
it
very
meaningful
and
also
thank
you
for
staying
late.
I
know
we're
supposed
to
be
out
of
here
by
six
notices
cutting
into
your
personal
time.
So
thank
you
for
supporting
us
and
staying
late.
I
have
one
other
item.
Maybe
I
should
have
brought
it
up
earlier,
but
there
is
a
Tampa
Bay,
wise
water,
Regional
rebate
program
for
residential.
There
are
residential
rebates
for
shallow
Wells
toilets
and
smart
irrigation
controls.
L
M
Yeah
all
right,
Glenna,
yeah,
I,
think
I've
covered
everything
I
the
solar
is
up
and
at
in
Coachman,
Park
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
mentioned,
but
it
it's
online
now
as
I
understand
it
133
solar
panels.
So
it's
occasion
for
celebration.
A
That's
it:
okay,
I
had
only
a
couple
items
outside
of
that.
The
city
has
a
survey,
Micah
kind
of
mentioned
it
too,
for
the
master
plan
make
sure
to
take
it.
If
you
haven't
taken
it
already
to
help
to
encourage
more
I've
taken
it
there's
also
three
in
live,
live
in-person
meetings,
the
24th,
the
north
Greenwood
Rec
Center,
the
25th
at
the
Long
Center
and
the
26th
at
the
main
library
and
a
couple
of
cleanups
coming
up
one
this
weekend
clean
up
the
the
creek
there.
A
My
neighborhood
has
a
cleanup
the
next
week
at
State
Street
park.
If
you
want
to
come
out
there
and
help
us
clean
up
the
park,
I
did
want
to
say
that
I
was
at
the
opening
for
Coachman
Park
and
I've
been
there
subsequently
as
well.
A
A
Well
so
far,
it
looks
like
and
then
the
only
other
thing
and
we
we
talked
about
it
a
little
bit
here
and
there
was
how
we
meet
quarterly
and
we
did
have
a
lot
of
stuff
on
this
agenda.
We
do
have
the
flexibility
if
we
ever
do
need
to
meet
more
frequently
we
can.
So
if
there
is
a
need
for
increased
meeting.
A
D
D
If
you'd
like
us
to
look
at
some
dates
with
the
clerk's
office
to
see
what's
available,
we
can
certainly
see
if
we
can
get
another
one
in
there
yeah.
If.
M
L
A
Yeah
and
like
I
said,
we
had
talked
about
a
couple
other
field
trip
meeting
different
than
meeting
here
in
our
normal
quarters,
but
also
those
are
again
additional
meetings
where
we
outside
of
that,
like
I,
said
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
know
that
if
we
do
need
to
meet
more,
we
can
and
we
have
earlier
this
year
we
had
a
couple
of
a
kind
of
get
done
so
anyhow
outside
of
that
I.