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A
A
C
I'm
not
sure
if
this
is
on
the
agenda
or
not
and
see
it
there.
So
excuse
me
if
it
is,
but
my
question
is
just
Park
what
the
situation
is
when
you
think
it'll
be
finished
or
open.
C
D
It's
in
fact,
if
I
may
answer
it,
we
we
hope
to
be
finished
by
February
15th.
The
only
things
we're
lacking
is
the
playground
that
needs
to
be
installed,
and
that
will
be
begin
installing
on
the
30th
of
this
month.
Take
about
a
week
to
10
days
and
the
other
thing
is
the
tennis
court
and
the
pickleball
courts
need
to
be
lined
and
surfaced
and
that's
put
up
and
those
two
things
will
be
done.
A
E
Holistic,
my
event
in
Marymont
Park
as
part
of
the
lease
agreement
with
the
year
Park.
The
park
is
the
Cornerstone
of
our
neighborhood.
It
is
the
only
open
space
we
have
our
children
play
on
playground
and
basketball
courts.
We
hold
neighborhood
meetings,
there
walk
our
dogs
and
meet
our
neighbors.
It
is
Despicable
if
the
city
gives
the
space
away
as
it
was
never
part
of
the
lease
discussions
to
the
public
was
involved
in
regarding
the
Air
Park.
D
Sir,
there
may
be
some
confusion
about
that.
Mariemont
Park
has
always
been
in
the
location
that
it
is
now
there's
a
green
space.
There
that's
called
Airport
Road
that
divides
it
off
from
the
property.
That
was
just
we.
We
gave
a
lease
on
the
Air
Park.
There
are
two
distinct
different
pieces
of
parcels.
If
you
go
on
the
website,
it
looks
at
as
one
land
all
the
way
across
there,
but
in
reality
it
is
not,
and
it
has
been
zoned
matter
of
fact.
D
I
have
some
zoning
maps
that
go
all
the
way
back
to
84
1984
that
show
that
the
zoning
there
was
for
Air
Park
property.
Let
me
make
sure
the
sunny
map
of
1994
actually
has
Marymont
Park
separate
from
where
the
Air
Park
is
so
it
could
get
confusing,
but
we're
not
taking
the
park
away,
continue
to
have
a
wonderful
park
in
that
neighborhood,
and
so
hopefully
that
will
alleviate
some
of
their
concerns
and
fears
about
that.
I.
A
D
A
Part
actually
so
Marymont
Park
will
remain
for
the
residents
of
the
area.
Yes,
I,
don't
believe
we
have
any
other
comments
from
outside
correct
I'd
like
to
move
on
to
the
agenda
itself.
If
we
could,
please
item
4-1
a
discussion
of
the
January,
Parks
and
Recreation
project
update
report,
which
we
all
should
have
copies
of
and
I
think
the
latest
update
was
dated
the
3rd
of
January.
D
Yeah,
the
the
updates,
as
you
will
see
and
I
won't
go
over
all
of
them,
but
some
of
them
I'd
like
to
give
you
just
I,
know
that
y'all
can
read
through
them
but,
for
example,
the
courty
Campbell
Trail
overpass,
the.
F
D
There
fdot
was
looking
for
additional
funding
to
do
the
improvements
to
the
bridge,
but
just
the
update
says
here
that
we
were
waiting
for
different
additional
funding,
F
dot,
our
Florida
Department
of
Transportation
has
come
up
with
that
funding,
so
they
are
proceeding
with
the
quote-unquote
fish
design
if
you've,
not
if
the
board
members
are
new
and
haven't
seen
that
fish
design,
we'll
certainly
can
bring
it
back
and
and
give
you
a
copy
of
that.
But
it's
going
to
be
a
nice
entryway
into
the
city
of
Clearwater.
D
F
A
Down
on
that,
so
therefore,
rather
than
seeking
an
additional
230
000
for
design
work
from
the
city,
it's
going
to
proceed
without
any
further
funding
by
the
city.
Is
that
correct.
D
A
D
D
D
The
other
one
I'd
like
to
update
is
the
sanding
Center
dock
replacement
at
the
Sailing
Center.
The
South
dock
is
totally
complete.
They
will
be
putting
the
boat
lift
in
that
will
be
tomorrow
morning,
then
it
will
be
totally
complete
and
they're
working
now,
the
north
Dock,
and
hopefully
they
that
will
be
completed
by
the
end
of
February.
So
basically,
four
weeks,
they'll
have
that
all
complete
and
be
done.
The
last
one
that
I'd
like
to
report
on
is
the
Enterprise
dog
park.
D
F
A
B
As
some
of
you
may
know,
I've
been
doing
aquatic
plant
control
and
nuisance,
species,
maintenance
and
management
for
40
years
in
this
area
and
I'm,
a
private
consultant
and
I'm
really
passionate
about
the
nuisance
species
that
are
in
this
area
and
throughout
Florida
and
I.
Just
thought
that
I
brought
this
up
last
year,
but
didn't
get
much
traction.
B
But
I
just
am
pretty
passionate
about
the
fact
that
we
should
probably
have
a
survey
of
all
of
the
109
parks
and
have
an
idea
of
what
we're
dealing
with
how
how
much
or
what
the
extent
of
nuisance
species
is
because
I
live
up
in
Northern
Clearwater
and
there's
a
park
up
there.
That
has
a
lot
of
kogan
grass
and
a
lot
of
Brazilian
pepper
and
a
lot
of
there's
there's
just
a
whole
bunch
of
different
stuff
in
this
park
and
I
I
just
feel
like.
B
It
would
be
good
to
identify
what
the
problem
is
and
come
up
with
a
plan
to
attack
it
because
it
just
seems
like.
If
we're
stewards
of
this
land,
we
should
be
taken
care
of
it,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
bring
it
up
again
and
and
get
people
to
think
about
it
and
I
know
it.
B
It
costs
money
to
do
that,
but
it's
I
think
it's
part
of
what
the
parks
department
should
be
doing
to
maintain
these
parks
and
in
the
Natural
State,
because
that's
the
whole
idea
is
use
native
plants
and
and
encourage
them
and
try
to
get
rid
of
the
nuisance
species
because
they
will
take
over
really.
You
know
air,
potato
and
pepper
and
all
these
different
species.
They
can
really
cause
a
problem
so
that
that
was
my
idea.
D
It
is
an
excellent
idea
and
something
that
we
are
aware
of,
and
it
is
a
problem
and
especially
our
undeveloped,
Parks
or
those
that
are
around
any
water.
As
you
know,
if
you
even
go
over
the
memorial
Causeway,
you
know
with
all
the
mangroves
mixed
in
there.
You
also
have
problems
and
the
same
way
with
any
of
the
trail
systems.
We
have
Bayshore
Trail,
that's
just
packed
with
peppers
and
all
kinds
of
things
that
will
just
root
everything
else
out.
It's
difficult
to
get
them
out
when
they
get
big.
D
I
do
know
that
and
you
have
to
have
a
specific
chemical
on
them
to
kill
them
and
what
we
have
in
the
budget,
though
we're
looking
at
an
environmental
area
and
to
maybe
do
an
environmental
survey
of
all
of
the
parks
that
we
have
out
there,
the
undeveloped
Parks.
So
we
are
looking
at
that
I,
don't
know
when
we'll
be
able
to
get
to
it,
but
I
think
it's
a
great
idea,
and
certainly
we'd,
be
looking
to
you
for
some
other
advice
about
that.
As
we
go,
we
go.
Okay,
love.
B
G
D
Well,
our
all
of
our
staff
members
do
they
have
they're
they're
very
well
versed
in
that
and
when
we
get
an
opportunity
we
remove
them.
Unfortunately,
we
don't
have
the
Manpower.
That's
that's
the
issue
right
now
to
get
all
of
them
out.
We
actually
have
volunteer
days
when
we
have
the
public
come
to
and
help
us
get
rid
of
of
these
environmental.
D
That's
that's
an
issue
too
there's
a
lot
of
feral
animals
that
are
out
there
in
our
parks
that
shouldn't
be
there
right.
I
won't
mention
Muskogee
Ducks,
because
a
lot
of
people
love
Muskogee,
Ducks
beef
will
go
on
an
adult,
but
that's
okay.
They
cause
a
lot
of
issues
and
problems
in
our
Parks,
so
we
can
look
at
that.
Maybe
do
it
as
an
education
piece
or
something
for
our
Parks
good
suggestion.
A
I
would
be
surprised
if
any
of
our
Parks
do
not
have
nuisance
or
exotic
plants
or
not.
Martin
and
I
actually
went
to
forest
Run
Park
take
a
look
at
that
with
Samantha
and
it
it
has
them
throughout
potato
plants,
all
kinds
of
stuff,
and
it's
a
tremendous
problem
that,
as
art
was
saying,
can
easily
overwhelm
the
finances
that
we
have
for
Parks
and
Recreation
as
well
as
the
Manpower.
It's
it's
a
big
problem,
and
hopefully
this
survey
will
help
us
get
a
handle
on
it.
A
We'll
move
on
to
item
4.3
update
on
The
Coachman,
Park
governance,
stakeholder
group
activity:
this
is
an
item
that
I
submitted
and
I
was
just
curious
as
to
where
that
stands.
At
this
time,
Jim
was
kept,
keeping
us
up
to
date
with
respect
to
what
they
were
doing
and
what
was
involved
and
I
just
thought.
Maybe
a
brief
update
would.
D
Be
yeah
I
think
the
committee
had
a
meeting
in
October
of
last
year.
I
think
that's
how
he
reported
it
right.
I
asked
Jim
today
where
they
were
on
that
and
apparently,
at
that
meeting
they
decided,
since
there
were
so
many
staff
involved,
new
staff
that
have
been
allocated
to
the
park
programming
staff,
as
well
as
maintenance
staff
that
they
would
basically
have
a
means
or
a
way
to
share
with
the
public
of
what
would
like
to
be
down
there.
D
In
other
words,
they're
not
going
to
have
per
se
a
you
know,
Conservancy
right
now
right
what
they
were
saying,
but
they're
going
to
get
out
to
the
public
and
one
of
the
best
ways,
and
one
of
the
things
that
will
be
in
my
report-
is
the
master
plan
international
plan,
which
will
be
in
partial
what
the
Conservancy
would
do
right
very
good.
Thank.
A
Item
4.4
or
a
big
depart
in
any
comments
or
questions
from
any
Advisory
Board.
Member.
A
D
Can't
answer
that,
for
you,
I
am
not
aware:
I,
don't
know
that
whether
it's
separate
I
work
apart
I
do
know.
The
Phillies
are
are
doing
some
looking
at
some
major
expansion
of
their
facilities
themselves
right
they
would
pay
for,
but
I'm,
not
sure
of
the
funding
yet
and
Jim
and
I
I
just
found
out
yesterday.
So
I
had
didn't
get
the
update
on
that
one.
So
I
can
get
back
with
you,
though.
Okay.
A
A
Item
4.5
board
discussion
of
the
funding
for
Tool
design
LLC
to
develop
a
master
plan.
That
is
also
an
item
that
I
added
from
no
Source
sent
out
to
the
board
members
by
Ellen
as
I
understand
it.
Tool
design
is
made
a
proposal
to
the
city
to
coordinate
and
basically
assist
us
with
developing
that
master
plan
for
a
sum
of
268
735
dollars.
And
my
question
was:
has
this
been
presented
to
council
to
approve
the
funding
yet
or
is
it
anticipated
to
be
done
in
the
near
future?
It.
A
And
they
have
approved
it,
they
have
approved
it.
Okay
and
the
detail
that
was
attached
from
Ellen
about
their
proposal
from
Tool
design
is
28
pages
long
and
it's
rather
detailed
as
to
what
they
will
do
and
what
they
will
provide.
So
it
certainly
sounds
that
it
will
be
money
well
spent
in
the
city
and
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Department
will
certainly
benefit
from
it.
So
I'm
glad
to
see
that
it's
been
approved,
then
yes,
any
any
questions
from
any
other
member
of
the
board.
On
that
item,.
D
Have
already
started
our
first
meeting
in-house
and
we
will
have
set
out
an
entire
schedule
for
that.
That
was
on
one
of
my
reports
too.
Basically,
we
all
will
be
very
involved
in
that
process.
We'll
certainly
give
you
all
the
invitations
to
the
dates
in
which
we'll
have
several
public
meetings.
We'll
have
surveys
that
go
out
to
the
public
and
we
would
definitely
need
your
input
on
the
entire
master
plan
and
we
bring
that
Master
Plan
back
to
you
for
review,
as
well
as
afterwards.
The
city
council.
A
H
Too
I
looked
at
the
scope
and
it
looked
very
organized
like,
like
you
thought
and
well
thought
out.
I
was
wondering
I
didn't
know
that
there's
a
20-year
master
plan
I
was
wondering
the
previous
20-year
master
plan.
Did
it
meet
the
expectations
of
the
city
and,
if
not,
you
know
what
could
have
been
done
better
then
as
tools
tool
design?
Does
it
seem
like
they're
going
to
be
better
in
these
areas.
D
Yeah
one
of
the
one
of
the
issues
is
the
the
last
update
on
the
current
20-year
plan
was
in
2013..
You
figure
we've
gone
10
years
since
then.
Definitely
need
to
update
it.
I
have
gone
through
personally
and
seen
all
of
the
the
proposals
that
we
made
back
in
2002
and
all
the
way
in
2013
I've
looked
at
those
and
we've,
and
we
can
I
can
give
you
a
list
of
all
the
things
that
we
said.
D
We
were
planning
to
do
and
the
things
that
the
community
wanted
at
that
time
and
I
can
show
you
the
things
that
were
actually
done.
I
can
share
with
you
and
there
was
quite
a
bit.
I
mean
it's
pretty
astounding.
With
a
plan.
You
can
do
a
whole
lot
if
you
have
it
planned
out
beforehand.
Of
course,
the
big
issue
is
funding
and,
of
course,
that
that
all
has
to
go
through
the
council
each
year
for
the
funding
on
that.
A
H
That
yeah
I
did
bring
that
up
and
pickleball
is
in
the
recent
years
really
exploded.
I
was
just
wondering
what
kind
of
plans
the
city
has
to
add
more
pickleball
courts
because
they're
definitely
in
and
I
see
that
Del
Oro,
you're
gonna,
add
three
there
and
I.
Think
that's
great
I
was
wondering
if
there's
any
other
plans
correct.
D
And
we're
also
we're
adding
three
pickleball
courts
at
sewer,
Road
Park.
Those
will
be
done,
hopefully
Again
by
the
end
of
February,
maybe
March,
probably
March.
Those
will
be
added
and
then
we
hope
to
add
four
new
pickleball
courts
at
the
McKay
Playfield
after
the
fire
station
is
built
and
opened
we'll
go
in
and
redo
all
of
McKay
Playfield,
so
that
would
be
dedicated
for
pickleball
Accords
there,
two
at
Ross
Norton
and
three
at
Seoul
road.
So
that
would
be
a
total
of
nine
new
courts.
D
We
realized
that
there
is
a
need
for
them.
We
also
realize
that
while
painting
lines
on
cords
allows
you
to
to
play
on
the
courts,
it
also
causes
some
issues
with
the
tennis
players
and
the
pickleball
players
being
on
the
same
court.
At
the
same
time,
and
just
so
for
your
information,
we
have
36
hard
courts
around
the
city.
What
I'm
talking
about
tennis
courts
now,
36
tennis
courts
and
of
those
36?
We
have
painted
lines
for
pickleball
players
on
20
of
them.
D
So
it's
a
little
bit
more
than
half
that
we
have
at
least
painted
lines
on
on
one
of
the
the
pickleball
courts.
I
know
it's
a
concern
for
for
the
people
that
love
pickleball
and
they
would
like
to
see
lines
on
all
the
tennis
courts.
The
problem
is
the
tennis
court
players
have
issues
with
that
when
all
of
a
sudden,
we
want
we're
going
to
be
booted
out
so
to
speak,
so
we're
just
playing
a
balancing
act
right
now.
The
key
is
to
get
enough.
Pickleball
courts
separate
pick
of
all
courts,
so
people
can.
H
D
Other
issue
that
causes
too
pickleball
players,
their
net
is
lower
than
the
tennis
net
and
oftentimes.
Our
staff
will
go
out
and
they'll
see
where
somebody
is
tied
the
net
down
so
that
they
could
play
Pickleball
and
then
they
left
it
tied
down
that
they
shouldn't
do
it.
But
if
they're
going
to
do
that.
A
One
of
the
things
that
I've
noticed
at
the
countryside,
Rec
Center,
is
inside
on
the
basketball
courts.
They
have
organized
pickleball
teams
and
more
I
I
I
go
there
on
a
regular
basis.
If
you
will
and
I
would
say,
it's
almost
50
50
that
you
either
see
basketball
games
being
played
and
not
just
for
the
leagues
or
the
young,
kids,
but
older
adults
or
pickleball
players
playing
so
I
think
where
they
can
in
Countryside.
Rec
Center
has
certainly
done
that
they've
converted
the
basketball
courts
throughout
the
week
to
where
pickleball
players
can
come
in.
A
D
People
Clearwater
Beach
rec
center.
There
also
is
a
basketball
court
and
they
have
three
pickleball
courts
on
the
basketball
court
there,
plus
one
on
three
of
the
tennis
courts.
They
have
requested
to
have
so
many
people
there
there's
around
150
I
think
that
come
out
there
and
play
it
is
just
so
crowded,
there's
not
a
room
for
them
and
I
know
they've
question
that
we
line
those
courts
as
well
all
three
of
them,
but
that
one
in
that
doing
that
would
preclude
any
tennis,
at
least
during
the
same
time.
We'd
have
a
conflict
there.
A
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
disrupt
the
agenda
sequence
if
I
could
and
move
from
item
4.6
down
to
item
4.10,
which
is
a
presentation
to
the
Parks
and
Recreation
board
by
board
member
Kelly
Shannon
Kelly
on
the
various
parks
that
we
have
in
the
city,
110
of
them
I
recall,
and
it
is
a
good
lead
into
a
couple
of
items
further
down
on
the
agenda.
So
if
there
are
no
objections,
I
would
like
to
move
to
item
4.10
and
have
Kelly,
make
her
presentation
and
then
resume.
Our
discussion
with
item
4.7.
G
I
asked
I'd
like
to
ask
a
question:
first,
yes,
reading,
through
the
notes
for
the
last
meeting
that
we
had
I,
somehow
missed
that
urban
forestry
is
being
moved
to
the
new
public
works
department.
Somehow
that
didn't
sink
in
does
that
include
not
only
the
cutting
of
trees
but
planting
of
new
trees.
D
D
G
Okay,
so
a
little
bit
of
this
overlapping
from
when
I
was
a
citizen
presenting,
but
in
1961
a
water
tower
was
built
on
the
Kings
Highway
Rec
Center
land,
and
you
can
see
all
the
trees
that
were
there
at
that
time.
G
G
G
This
is
Amber
when
I
started
my
website
about
four
and
a
half
years
ago,
Amber
and
I
decided
to
explore
Clearwater,
and
we
visited
all
110
parks
in
Clearwater
and
109
of
them
are
city
parks
and
there's
one
County,
Park
I
discovered
many
parks
within
two
miles
of
my
home.
That
I
never
knew
existed
in
36
years
now,
if
I
didn't
know
of
these
four
parts
within
two
miles
of
my
home,
how
many
other
Clearwater
residents
don't
know
about
parks
that
are
near
to
them?
G
G
F
G
G
So
these
videos
which
show
residents
a
potential
video
visitors
places
they
may
not
know
about,
and
they
could
be
shared
on
social
media.
Now
the
two
on
the
right
were
done
by
the
city
of
Clearwater.
This
Enterprise
doc,
Park
aerial
video
was
done
before
the
renovation
and
it's
an
awesome,
video.
It
shows
you
know
what
Enterprise
dock
park
looks
like
from
the
air
and
Glen
Oaks
Park.
G
It's
it's
not
such
a
great
video,
but
it
shows
you
what
Glenn
Oaks
looks
like
and
the
two
on
the
left,
the
the
top
one
is
some
something
that
I
hired
somebody
to
do
for
my
website
and
the
bottom.
One
is
I,
got
permission
from
Zach
Perry
of
taste
and
see
Tampa
Bay
and
he
walked
from
Clearwater
Beach
to
Caladesi,
Island
and
I.
Don't
have
the
stamina
to
do
that,
so
I
got
to
see
what
this
looks
like
and
it
was
an
awesome.
Video
videos
could
be
made
by
city,
employees,
interns
or
independent
contractors.
G
So
I
had
a
biker
with
a
GoPro
on
his
bike.
He
started
at
the
middle
of
the
Courtney
Campbell
Causeway
and
he
biked
all
the
way
to
Clearwater
Beach
and
I
paid
him
700,
and
he
followed
all
the
biking
trails,
the
ream,
Wilson
Trail
and
all
the
biking
trails
and
he
wrote
I
couldn't
have
done
that.
So
he
he.
It
was
an
awesome
video
and,
as
you
know,
right
well,
it's
not
there
anymore.
Well,
it's
on
the
screen
bright
and
beautiful
Bay
to
beach.
G
That's
the
slogan
of
Clearwater
and
you
got
to
see
it
and
I
heard
Wayne
Capital
he's
an
awesome.
Videographer
I
paid
him
125
to
do
an
aerial
video
of
Sand
Key
Park,
so
it
doesn't
have
to
be
expensive,
but
wouldn't
it
be
nice
if
we
had
videos
of
all
of
these
parts,
so
people
can
actually
see
these
parks.
Now
some
parks
are
very
small.
Now
it
wouldn't
make
much
sense
to
do
a
video
of
Ann
Circle
Park,
because
there's
a
bush
there's
a
tree,
there's
a
flagpole,
that's
it
the
Esplanade!
That's
it.
G
G
A
I
probably
made
this
presentation
to
us
I
believe
to
the
Parks
and
Recreation
advisor
board
last
year.
I
believe
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
had
an
opportunity
to
present
it
to
the
city
council,
but
it
was
most
interesting,
particularly
the
fact
that
there's
110
parks
within
the
city
and
there's
quite
a
few
of
them
that
are
quite
small.
A
A
A
I,
don't
know
what
direction
it
will
go
in
I,
don't
know
what
may
be
accomplished,
but
certainly
there
would
be
a
forum
for
that
discussion
to
begin
I,
don't
know
if
that
would
be
adequate
enough
or
we
want
to
take
it
up
as
a
separate
issue
here
at
the
board.
I,
don't
know
what
the
board
feels
about
that.
D
I
think
one
of
the
issues
we
have
the
reason
we
have
110
Parks.
Is
it
it's
historical
in
nature
that
when
developers
come
in,
sometimes
there
are
some
park
lands
that
are
actually
zoned
osr,
which
is
open
space
Recreation
that
are
even
smaller
than
this,
and
what
happened
is
a
developer
might
not
have
had
a
little
piece
of
property
that
they
had
next
to
their
hat,
that
you
know
that
they
couldn't
use
for
anything,
so
they
said
well,
we'll
just
donate
it
to
the
city
and
back
then,
for
whatever
reason
somebody
accepted
it.
D
So
we
ended
up
with
it,
and
so
we
did
I
know
that
I
have
been
here
for
a
while
and
I
know
that
I've
been
apart
with
Mr
Rheem
Wilson,
when
we,
when
he
had
some
of
the
first
Master
plans,
and
we
looked
at
strategically
locating
properties
and
parks
in
certain
areas
of
the
city
and
the
best
I
know
when
we,
the
first
Park
that
was
dedicated,
was
Valencia.
Park
was
the
first
one
that
was
given
to
the
city
with
a
10
percent
was
a
10
percent
gift.
So
to
speak.
D
D
Those
were
developed
that
way,
because
the
developer
had
to
give
10
percent
of
their
land
or
money
and
lieu
thereof
for
a
part,
and
so
they
would
just
cut
out
a
piece
of
property
and
give
that
to
the
city,
and
so
some
of
the
cases
we
have
parks
that
have
never
been
developed.
Some
we
purchased
so
that
they
could
be
developed
at
a
later
time.
D
As
a
neighborhood
part
neighborhood
park
generally
has
a
playground,
benches
sidewalks,
maybe
a
tennis
court
or
basketball
court,
those
types
of
things,
but
all
those
things
as
you
know,
cost
money
and
it
and
and
it's
not
the
initial
cost,
it's
the
maintenance
costs
that
really
gets
you
on
there.
So
certainly
we
get
requests
almost
weekly
for
our
benches
or
picnic
tables
or
a
new
playground,
or
you
know
so.
The
master
plan
is
going
to
tremend,
be
a
tremendous
help
to
us
and
looking
at
some
of
these
properties
like
that,
yeah.
D
Actually,
yes,
some
of
them
were
before
then,
but
actually
most
of
the
Parkland
came
in
the
70s
70s
80s
90s
is
where
we
got
most
of
the
Parkland,
because
back
then
we,
you
know
we
there's
a
lot
of
land
available.
As
you
saw
from
your
slides,
you
had
orange
trees.
Next
in
your
neighborhood
there,
you
know
all
the
trees.
You
know
that
you
had
there,
so
there
were
orange
Grows,
All
Around.
B
The
reason
I'm
asking
is
because
I
I
get
involved
with
permitting
of
developments
from
the
environmental
side
and
anytime
that
there's
a
common
area.
It's
it's
usually
becomes
a
function
of
the
homeowners
association
to
take
care
of
and
I
know,
maintenance
is
a
probably
your
biggest
cost
to
mow,
Edge
and
blow
all
these
areas.
You
know
it
costs
a
lot
of
money
to
keep
them
up
and
is
there
any
thoughts
to
donating
them
back
to
the
neighborhood
and
letting
them
take
care
of
them
as
far
as
maintenance,
or
is
that
not
even
considered
I.
B
D
We
do
have
an
adopt-a-part
programming
and
adopt
a
median
program
and
many
of
them
like
Morningside,
The
Meadows,
if
you
notice
the
entryways
to
those
those
subdivisions,
they
have
landscaped
areas
in
the
front
and
they
do
an
adopt
agreement
with
us
and
they
maintain
those
areas.
Unfortunately,
like
at
Morningside,
there
are
literally
miles
and
miles
of
medians
in
the
middle
of
the
road,
with
trees
and
grass,
which
makes
it
very
nice.
But
obviously
what
happens
is
developers
came
back
in
now
that
was
in
the
60s.
D
A
lot
of
the
60s
came
in
developed
the
areas
made
these
medians
and,
in
the
end,
it's
in
the
right-of-way.
So
who
takes
care
of
the
right-of-way,
the
city
of
Clearwater?
And
so
that's
why
we're
left
with
that
I
think:
we've
gotten
smarter,
Through,
The
Years
and
we're
doing
some
things
from
a
planning
standpoint
and
being
involved
in
that
see
how
the
the
rules
and
regulations
have
changed
somewhere
yeah.
D
A
Can
certainly
see
where
a
developer
back
then
would
certainly
just
mark
off.
Ten
percent
of
the
land
being
developed,
donate
to
the
city
city
would
accept
it
and
nobody
would
be
able
to
do
anything
with
it,
I.E
to
either
finances
and
or
personnel,
and
that's
how
it
just
stayed
there.
That
certainly
explains
to
me
how
that
could
have
happened
and
certainly
is
going
to
remain.
You
know,
undeveloped.
If
you
will.
A
I
also
think
that
within
the
city
of
Clearwater,
the
neighborhood
parks
have
tended
to
be
the
thrust
of
the
activity,
so
they
can
be
developed
to
support
residents
in
that
neighborhood
and
are
kept
up
with
you
know:
basketball,
courts,
the
playgrounds
this
that
and
the
other
thing,
and
in
many
many
cases
because
of
limited
funding.
That's
where
you
may
want
to
be
putting
your
requests
for
upgrades
and
things
like
that,
as
opposed
to
putting
benches
or
whatever
in
an
area
that
nobody
May
ever
sit
down
and
look
at
anything.
A
D
Good,
you
know
Countryside
the
countryside
area.
When
they
came
in
U.S
homes
developed
that
area.
They
were
required
to
give
10
percent
of
their
land
all
that
land
in
parks,
and
so
they
donated
us
Woodgate,
Countryside
Community,
Park,
Forest
Runway.
There
were
several
of
them
that
basically
were
the
they
were
cut
out
for
that
old
development
and
given
to
the
city
at
that
time.
Right
and.
A
Those
up
there
in
that
area,
Woodgate
forest
Run
Morningside,
are
just
beautiful,
they're,
beautiful,
Parks
well
used
by
the
citizens.
I
was
part
of
the
forest
Run
homeowners
association
in
the
early
90s
when
that
Park
was
donated
and
developed,
and
it's
used
by
quite
a
number
of
citizens
now.
So
any
further
questions
or
comments
on
that
particular
item.
A
A
They
want
to
take
a
look
at
the
criteria
that
was
developed
and
to
modify
it
as
necessary
to
be
more
applicable
to
Clearwater's
needs
and
therefore
trees
that
would
be
identified
to
be
removed
would
be
removed
for
Right
Reasons.
If
you
will
right
away
concerns
disease
Etc,
but
that
was
a
good
response.
I
think
by
the
city
to
the
residents
complaining
about
that
issue
and
I
just
noticed
that
the
other
day
as
I
saw
some
emails
about
it.
A
So,
if
anybody
here
or
in
the
audience
listening
and
watching,
has
an
interest
in
the
tree
situation,
I
would
strongly
suggest
you
attend
that
work
session
on
the
30th
of
January
you're,
not
able
to
comment,
but
at
least
you're
able
to
get
educated
and
learn
what
Public
Works
thinks
they
will
do.
That's
on
a
Monday.
A
But
again,
that
gives
you
an
opportunity
to
make
comment
upon
the
trees
that
are
being
taken
out
of
the
city
of
Clearwater
and
how
they're
being
replaced
so
I
would
strongly
encourage
anybody
that
has
that
interest
to
attend
both
sessions
and
to
certainly
speak
up
at
the
council
meeting
on
the
2nd
of
February.
But
I
just
learned
that
today,
so
I
wanted
to
lead
into
that
before.
There
was
any
further
discussion
about
planting
new
trees,
I'll
open
it
up
to
the
rest
of
the
board
to
make
whatever
comments
they
would
like
to
make.
A
Here
right
here
it
the
work
sessions
are
outstanding
and
that
that
is
where
items
that
will
be
on
the
agenda
at
that
Thursday
council
meeting
are
discussed
with
the
details
provided
to
the
council
members
by
the
various
City
departments,
but
they're
proposing
why
they're
proposing
at
this
that
the
other
thing
and
there's
a
back
and
forth
discussion
about
the
detail?
Why
why
this?
Why
that
and
so
forth,
very
informative?
They
go
on
for
a
bit
of
time,
but
it's
most
educational.
A
You
can
sit
at
home
and
watch
it
on
television
as
well,
and
those
items
will
be
on
the
council
agenda
on
that
Thursday
and
you
will
have
an
opportunity,
as
a
private
citizen
or
as
a
group,
to
go
up
and
speak
on
an
agenda
item
that
you
may
have
heard
the
details
about
on
that
Monday.
So
it's
it's
In,
This
Very
Room,
here
nine
o'clock.
G
I
just
have
one
comment:
my
idea
was
a
tree
for
a
tree,
but
another
citizen
told
me
it
might
be
a
better
idea.
It's
not
really
Equitable
to
plant
a
tree
if
a
large
well-established
tree
is
being
cut
down,
it
might
be
more
Equitable
if
inches
for
inches
is
what
she
suggested
and
I
thought.
That
was
a
good
idea
right,
like
if
large
diameter
tree
was
being
cut
down.
Maybe
several
smaller
trees,
inches
wise.
A
G
A
I
think
it'll
be
very
interesting
to
see
what
the
Public
Works
group
comes
up
with,
because
they
at
least
addressed
the
problem
by
putting
the
program
on
hold
and
I'm
sure
they're,
giving
it
some
good
thought
for
that
work
session
coming
up
so
on
I
plan
to
eat
I
plan
to
be
there
hopefully
in
person,
but
I
certainly
will
listen
to
it.
Relative
to
the
tree
situation
and.
A
There's
no
more
comments
on
that
particular
item.
I'll
move
on
to
the
next
one
item:
4.9
discussion
to
create
video
tours
of
each
City
Park,
as
you
have
suggested
in
your
presentation
and
I,
did
notice
that
when
Ellen
sent
out
the
agenda
to
us
and
the
meeting
notification
that
she
did
attach
two
videos
to
that
notification,
I
don't
know
if
you
had
a
chance
to
see
it
or
not,
but
the
two
videos
were
the
Enterprise
dog
park,
aerial
view
prior
to
the
renovation
which
the
renovation
is
outstanding.
A
That's
up
in
my
neighborhood,
and
it
is
a
superb
dog
part
and
the
second
one
was
a
virtual
tour
of
the
Glen
Oaks
Park
and
that's
kind
of
leading
into
what
you
were
suggesting
and
it
might
be
something
that
could
be
discussed
also
as
part
of
the
master
plan
input
always
coming
up
is
going
to
be
the
financial
resources
and
the
Personnel
to
do
things.
It
doesn't
mean
you
do
nothing,
but
it
also
might
mean
you
can't
do
as
much
as
you
would
like.
So
you
may
have
to
selectively
pick
what
you're
going
to
do.
A
D
Think
it's
a
wonderful
idea.
Certainly
our
public
Communications
Department
with
the
city
you
know
has
is
looking
at
doing
more
of
that.
So
that
was
that
one
part
they
did,
but
there's
so
many
more
that
we
do
have
that
we
just
haven't
put
online
and
so
I
think
your
idea
is
wonderful
and
we'll
certainly
do
what
we
can
in
that
regard.
Yeah
thanks
thank.
A
A
D
Yeah
I
think
what
you
want
to
consider,
too,
is
you
know
someone
that
that
is,
is
able
to
be
here
and
consistent
basis
and
be
able
to
lead
the
board
in
that
process,
and
certainly
not
that
Mr
Rodriguez
is
necessarily
not
done
that
it's
just
that
he
couldn't
come
tonight,
but
certainly
that's
up
to
the
board
right.
A
I
believe,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
he
was
chairman
once
before
then
Bruce
Rector
was
chairman
and
now
Marcus
chairman
a
second
time
that
I'm
aware
of,
if
you
will
and
I
I
mean
I,
do
know
I'm,
not
sure
where
he
does
work
but
I
do
know
it's
an
issue
for
him
to
get
here
on
time
and
in
this
particular
case
he
was
not
able
to
make
it,
but
it's
something
he
has
done
when
he's
able
to
before
without
a
problem.
F
A
So
maybe
you
would
want
it
I
Would,
Not
Shake
it,
but
I
would
not
turn
it
down
if
I'm
nominated
to
be
honest
about
it.
Okay,
I'll.
F
A
H
F
A
E
A
He's
he's
been
on
this
board
as
long
as
I
can
recall,
he's
been
a
participant
and
an
active
member
of
the
board
and
I
think
in
the
absence
of
the
chairman.
Whenever
that
might
occur,
he
would
be
an
excellent
fill-in
to
fill
the
role
as
Vice
chairman,
and
for
that
reason
and
his
interest
in
activities
in
Parks
and
Recreation
I
would
like
to
nominate
Jason,
as
the
vice
chairman
going
forward
in
2023.
E
A
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
old
business
items,
I'll
lead
off
with
an
old
business
item
that
I
ran
across
and
I
spoke
to
Mr
halios
about
it,
and
that
was
in
our
July
3rd
meeting.
A
beg,
your
partner,
our
July
meeting,
the
three
score
senior
softball
group
made
a
proposal
to
us
in
person
about
putting
a
Hall
of
Fame
plaque
at
the
EDC
Moore
complex,
as
well
as
a
national
league
alumni
sign
on
the
Sid
Lipton
Fields
area
and
According
to
Jim.
I
asked
him
about
this
separately.
A
He
said
I
believe
we
are
waiting
for
the
three
c
three
score:
senior
softball
people
to
give
options
to
Parks
and
Recreation
as
to
what
those
will
be,
and
they
can
be
put
up
at
that
time.
Is
that
correct.
A
Okay,
so
I
think
I'd
like
to
take
the
opportunity,
since
they
did
take
the
opportunity
to
appear
in
person
and
make
the
proposal
to
the
Parks
and
Recreation
team
that
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Department
is
prepared
to
go
forward
with
that
if
they
could
three
score
senior
softball
Club
president
or
an
officer
needs
to
let
Parks
and
Recreation
know
which
they
would
like
to
do
and
I'm
sure
it'll
be
taken.
Care
of.
A
That
is
the
only
piece
of
old
business
that
I
had.
Does
anybody
else
have
any
old
business
that
they
would
like
to
bring
up
at
this
time?.
D
As
you
all
know,
Mr
halios
and
I
appreciate
the
responses
for
many
of
the
board.
Members
wrote
him
back.
He
put
that
in
the
email
he
would
not
be
here.
He
has
taken
another
position
and
will
be
leaving
the
city
on
February
the
10th,
and
so
we
all
wish
him
very
well
and
in
his
new
he's
going
into
the
private
sector,
which
is
new
for
him
because
he's
generally
been
in
and
working
for
cities,
municipalities
pretty
much
all
of
his
career.
The
the
other
item
was
the
master
plan
which
we've
already
talked
about.
D
We
brought
up
we're
just
excited
about
that
tool.
Design
Group
is
a
very
good
group
there
out
of
Orlando.
They
have
done
many
Master
plans.
The
most
recent
one
has
been
for
Sarasota
County
in
Sarasota,
we're
very
impressed
by
that
and
if
you
you
can
go
online
and
actually
look
at
that,
so
you
can
see
the
type
of
thing
that
they
did
for
Sarasota,
that
they'll
be
doing
for
us
as
well,
so
that
that's
it
that's
good.
The
only
other
item
I
did
put
in
your
packet
was
about
impact
fees.
D
It's
open
space,
Recreation
impact
fees,
I,
don't
know
how
familiar
you
are
with
impact
fees,
most
people,
you
know,
don't
it's
kind
of
like
planning,
put
it
on
the
side
until
you
really,
you
know
understand
it.
So
what
I
did
is
I
I
have
a
little
white
paper
here
and
I
know
that
y'all
can
read
it,
but
I'd
like
to
just
go
through
it
real
quickly.
D
D
Basically,
the
there
was
a
policy,
a
city
council
policy
that
required
the
developers
to
give
10
percent
of
their
land
to
the
city
of
Clearwater.
It
dealt
with
a
number
of
Acres.
So
that's
why
we
got
some
little
Parks
because
they
didn't
have
big
developments
back
then,
but
in
1983
we
decided
to
codify
that
into
actually
an
ordinance
rather
than
a
policy,
and
so
since
1983
we
have
had
an
open
space
element
of
our
impact
fees.
We've
done
minor
changes
in
there.
D
However,
as
you
can
imagine,
we
haven't
had
any
major
changes
and
we
need
to
do
that,
and
so
we
hope
to
take
before
the
city
council
very
soon
within
the
next
two
months,
a
proposal
that
would
on
September
the
1st
2023
we'd,
adopt
a
new
ordinance
and
Recreation
or
impact
fees.
What's
an
impact
fee,
an
impact
fee
is
paid
by
a
homeowner
or
a
developer,
to
fund
the
cost
of
providing
new
recreation
facilities
and
or
land
in
the
city.
D
In
other
words,
you
have
a
certain
standard
right
now
and
the
question
is:
if
you
want
new
residences,
they
come
in
to
pay
their
fair
share
to
keep
you
at
the
same
standard
level.
Basically
that's
what
an
impact
fee
does
it
allows
those
new
people
to
be
a
part
of
that
and
not
to
impact
on
the
existing
facilities
that
you
have
and
the
land
that
you
have.
D
Where
are
impact
fees
basically
impact
Visa
throughout
the
United
States
they're?
In
almost
all
cities,
Counties
have
them
Largo,
Dunedin,
Safety,
Harbor,
St,
Pete
and,
of
course,
we've
had
them
since
1983.
water
impact
fees,
Bay
Stone,
a
community
must
do
an
impact
fee
study
and
base
them
on
your
current
situation,
and
obviously
we
haven't
done
that
in
a
while.
So
we
need
to
look
at
and
that's
why
we
hired
the
firm
of
binish,
which
was
formerly
Tyndall
Oliver,
to
look
at
the
city.
Look
at
the
population.
D
D
What
will
the
impact
fees
be
used
for
basically
to
purchase
new
land
and
to
purchase
new
facilities?
It
can't
be
used
to
just
renovate
existing
facilities
or
repair
them
who
governs
this.
The
State
of
Florida
basically
has
restrictions
on
it.
How
you
can
do
it
and
what
is
allowed
and
what's
not
allowed?
Who
pays
the
impact
fees?
Any
new
residential
development
constructed
in
the
city,
limits
of
Clearwater
or
any
residential
property
of
eight
units
or
more
to
be
annexed
into
the
city
will
pay
an
impact
fee?
D
How
much
is
the
impact
fee
you
can
see,
there's
a
whole
chart.
It
varies.
It
depends
on
the
size
of
your
home.
It
depends
on
whether
or
not
it's
multifamily,
whether
it's
a
mobile
home
age,
restricted
whether
it's
affordable
housing,
and
you
can
see
the
chart
there
of
the
different
fees
that
will
be
charged
winter
impact
fees
paid.
Basically,
it's
paid
as
a
condition
of
your
certificate
of
occupancy.
In
other
words,
you
cannot
go
into
your
home
or
your
condo
until
you
pay
this
fee.
D
Are
there
any
exemptions?
Yes,
there
are
the
exemptions.
Are
there
there's
for,
if
you're
all
altering
your
home,
if
you're
building
accessory
buildings,
if
you're
replacing
a
destroyed
dwelling
or
home
any
single
family,
affordable
housing,
dwelling
units
will
not
have
to
pay
this
annexations
of
seven
units
or
less
will
not
have
to
pay
this.
We
still
want
to
encourage
annexations
into
the
city
to
become
very
good
city
taxpayers
as
well.
A
credit
is
given
for
any
previous
dwelling
units
that
were
on
the
property.
D
D
There's
a
50
discount
to
the
affordable,
multi
multi-family
dwelling
units,
duplexes
I,
know
that's
a
lot
to
take
in
and
I
apologize
that
I
didn't
get
it
to
you
sooner
than
that,
but
I
want
you
to
be
aware
of
that.
That's
kind
of
what
an
impact
fee
is
just
to
talk
about
where
we
are
now
in
the
current
ordinance
right
now.
There
are
three
fees
that
a
developer
would
have
to
pay:
they
have
to
pay
an
open
space
fee,
a
recreation
facility,
land
fee
and
a
recreation
facility
fee.
D
So
you
would
assess
them
on
the
value
of
the
land
and
basically,
then
the
idea
is
that
the
city
would
have
to
buy
land
on
the
beach
as
well
see
so
that
that's
that's
the
premise
of
it
that
worked
well
in
83
when
there's
a
lot
of
land
that
was
out
there,
there's
not
much
land
anymore,
and
we
need
to
change
our
thrust
and
that's
what
this
orders
will
do.
It
gets
rid
of
those
first,
two
fees.
The
other
fee
was
just
a
facility
fee.
D
It
was
200
back
in
83,
we've
not
increased
that
for
this
many
years,
so
that
basically,
will
be
the
big
increase
there.
So
it's
going
from
three
fees
to
one
fee
makes
it
much
simpler
for
everybody.
The
fees
collected
are
restricted
in
their
use.
Currently,
you
can
only
use
it
within
a
mile
for
a
neighborhood
park,
two
miles
for
a
community
park
or
anywhere
in
the
city
for
Citywide
facility
or
resource-based
Park.
The
idea
there
was
to
localize
whether
this
fees
were
collected.
D
That's
in
the
current
ordinance
now
as
you've
seen
in
the
new
orders,
we
are
not
charging
because
I
know,
there's
a
very
big
push
to
a
help
in
the
affordable
housing
area.
This
is
going
to
help
in
that
regard.
There'll
be
no
fees
for
that.
50
percent.
For
multi-family
fees,
the
next
difference
is
there
currently
there's
an
exemption
given
to
all
projects
that
are
constructed
within
the
CRA
or
the
community
redevelopment
agency.
That's
downtown!
That's
the
area
we're
in
now
and
the
downtown
Street.
As
you
go
out,
Cleveland
Street.
D
They
have
been
exempt
from
1983
from
paying
any
impact
fees.
We
are
in
the
new
ordinance.
We
are
proposing
to
eliminate
that
so
that,
because
we
believe
there's
going
to
be
a
boom
downtown,
we
believe
people
will
move
here.
Business
will
move
here
and
they're
going
to
need
to
pay
their
fair
share
as
they
come
in
to
town,
so
that
is
going
to
be
eliminated
and
the
only
other.
The
last
thing
that's
different.
D
The
payment
of
fees
right
now
is
no
later
than
when
the
vertical
building
permit
is
issued.
That
means
they
got
to
pay
it
up
front
so
to
speak,
and
the
new
ordinance
we're
allowing
them
to
pay
it
and
and
kind
of
in
a
rears
just
before
they
get
to
see
it
so
I
know
that's
a
lot
to
take
in,
but
I
wanted
to
share
that
with
you
before,
because
I
know
we
won't
have
another
meeting
before
the
council
looks
at
this
and
considers
it
and
I
wanted
you
to
be
aware
of
it.
A
I
did
have
one
that
I
want
to
make
sure
I
just
understood.
It
correctly
is
that
the
fees
that
are
collected
under
this
new
ordinance,
if
you
will,
can
be
spent
anywhere
in
the
city
as
opposed
to
in
previously
where
they
were
in
the
neighborhood.
The
question
I
have:
are
those
impact
fees
still
restricted
to
acquiring
new
land
and
new
facilities,
or
can
it
be
used
for
renovating.
D
Use
or
anything
anything
okay,
the
use
for
anything
and
in
the
setting
we
are
keeping
our
level
of
service
loss
the
same
in
our
level
here
is,
of
course,
four
acres
per
1000
people.
However,
we've
been
blessed
with
so
many
Parklands
that
we're
up
to
over
almost
eight
Acres
or
one
thousand,
and
if
you
use
my
Figures,
it's
like
12
or
13
acres,
but
I
count
a
lot
of
things
that
the
that
the
people
that
did
the
plan
don't
count.
They
don't
count.
You
know,
you
know
submerged
land
swamps.
D
D
A
A
I
have
two
two
items
I'd
like
to
bring
up
if
I
could
number
one
just
to
make
sure
I
understood,
because
I
was
unable
to
attend
the
October
meeting
that
I
believe
was
canceled
anyway.
Did
the
council
chair
make
a
beg?
Your
pardon
did
the
a
board
chair
make
a
presentation
to
the
council
in
November,
like
we
did
last
year
of
the
activities
of
the
board
through
the
year
of
2022.?
A
And
then
the
last
thing
I
want
to
comment
upon
is
speaking
for
myself
on
Mr
Helios
departure,
I
joined
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Advisory
board
about
the
same
time
that
Jim
took
over
as
the
Director
of
Parks
and
Recreation,
and
over
the
time
that
I've
been
on
the
board.
I
have
been
educated
and
well
informed
of
the
vast
responsibilities
and
Facilities
that
we
have
within
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Department
and
the
very
fine
job
that
they
do
maintaining
those
facilities
and
providing
Recreation
to
the
citizens
of
Clearwater.
A
That
has
all
been
due
to
the
leadership
and
effective
management
of
Parks
and
Recreation
by
Jim.
I
wish
him
well
on
his
new
Endeavor
I
appreciate
the
education.
It's
given
me
and
the
work
he's
done
with
the
board
as
we
went
through
various
issues
and
I
appreciate
his
activities
with
many
challenges
in
managing
the
many
activities
of
Parks
and
Recreation.
I
wish
him
well
and
I.
Thank
him
for
his
service.