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A
Good
morning,
I
can't
believe
it's
august
1st,
but
welcome
to
the
august
1st
work
session
agenda
denise.
You
want
to
go
ahead
or
wait.
B
A
You
just
give
me
the
high
sign
all
right:
we're
gonna,
delay,
item
2.1
and
move
on
to
2.2.
D
Thank
you
truck
lane
economic
development,
housing
department.
This
is
a
city-owned
property,
just
south
of
ross
norton
recreation
center.
It's
on
south
mlk
avenue.
It's
a
vacant
site.
The
city
purchased
it
several
years
ago
with
cmpg
funds.
D
D
The
the
site
is
1.3
acres
and
the
allowable
density
is
24
units,
and
that
includes
four
units
from
the
affordable
housing
density
pool.
D
The
rfp
will
call
for
the
highest
density
practicable
while
staying
consistent
with
the
existing
pattern
and
and
scale
of
the
neighborhood.
The
staff
recommendation
is
to
require
this
to
be
a
home
ownership
project.
There
are
multiple
multi-family
rental
projects
in
the
area
and
if
we're
successful,
this
project
will
be
something
that
doesn't
currently
exist
in
the
neighborhood.
Excuse
me,
because
the
property
was
purchased
using
cdbg
funds.
Minimum
of
fifty
percent
of
the
units
must
be
sold
to
households
at
eighty
percent.
D
If
this
item
is
approved
by
council
staff
plans
to
release
the
rfp
in
the
next
couple
weeks,
if
staff
selects
a
winning
proposal,
I'll
come
back
to
council
to
explain
the
proposed
project
and
ask
you
to
approve
a
contract
for
the
transfer
of
the
property
to
the
successful
respondent.
I'll,
take
questions.
Please
questions.
E
Well,
he
answered
a
few
of
the
questions
I
had
written
down
about
like
how
many
units
and
ownership-
so
that's
fantastic.
The
remaining
question-
I
guess
is
so
you
have
50
at
80
percent
ami
and
then
the
remaining
would
be
earning
up
to
120
ami.
What
does
that
mean
earning
up
to
like
they
have
to?
They
can
be
below
it.
A
D
F
D
Yeah,
the
the
one
I
can
think
of
is
country
club
town
homes.
That's
a
mixed
income
project
about
half
the
units
are
market,
the
other
half
are
income
restricted
over
at
betty.
A
D
It's
gone
well,
the
only
problems
we've
had
there
are
people
trying
to
resell
their
units
that
are
restricted
in
a
market.
That's
gone,
crazy,
they're,
not
getting
full
value
for
their
property,
but
the
management
of
the
property.
I
haven't
heard
any
problems
at
all,
something
we'll
delve
into
as
we
as
we've
as
we
research
these
proposals.
A
So
if
somebody
buys
in
there
and
we're
obviously
making
concessions
that
you
know,
fifty
percent
of
them
are
below
eighty.
Is
there
a
holding
period
necessary.
D
D
D
I
believe
it's
15
years
I'll
double
check
that
it
depends.
We
try
to
do
the
lowest
lower
period
that
hud
requires
and
I'll
double
check.
E
D
D
Right
and
that's
the
benefit
of
a
homeownership
project
versus
a
rental.
You
know
people
can
build
wealth
in
these
things
and
that's
not
the
case
with
these
other
rental
projects
that
are
in
the
neighborhood,
and
there
are
many
of
them
and
that's
why
we
chose
to
go
to
go
forward
with
the
home
ownership
project,
because
there's
a
lot
of
rental
units
that
are
restricted
in
this
neighborhood
immediate
vicinity.
D
B
Thank
you,
denise
anderson,
economic
development
and
housing.
Thank
you
for
the
indulgence
this
morning
mayor
so
for
some
of
you
before
I
introduce
our
consultant
I'd
like
to
provide
a
brief
overview
of
kind
of
what
led
us
to
this
point
where
we
are
at
today
and
for
you
this
will
be
the
first
time
hearing
it.
So
please,
let
us
know,
have
any
questions.
So
in
april,
2021
council
provided
direction
for
the
issuance
of
a
request
for
proposals
for
a
consultant
firm
to
conduct
a
disparity
study.
B
In
october,
we
discussed
some
of
the
challenges
of
conducting
a
disparity
study,
both
in
terms
of
time
and
money,
since
current
practices
do
not
fully
capture
all
the
necessary
data
points.
In
order
to
conduct
such
a
study,
I
recommended
an
alternative
approach
to
a
disparity
study
that
is
to
explore
with
a
consultant
where
we
are
currently
and
what
would
be
necessary
to
develop
and
implement
a
small
business
enterprise
utilization
program,
which
is
a
procurement
policy.
If
you
will
presuming,
it
would
be
similar
to
the
counties
program
which
is
conducted
as
a
best
practice.
B
B
Over
the
course
of
several
months,
numerous
virtual
meetings
were
conducted
with
departments
with
a
high
volume
of
procurement
activity,
and
multiple
meetings
were
conducted
with
it:
procurement
city
attorney's
office,
in
economic
development.
On
april
25,
2022
morrison
and
associates
issued
phase
one
evaluation
report,
which
was
attached
to
the
agenda
item
at
this
time.
I'd
like
bob
morrison
and
morrison
and
associates
to
provide
an
overview
overview
of
the
report.
H
For
the
record,
my
name
is
bob
morrison
and
I'm
president
of
morrison's
associates
forgive
the
raspness
of
my
voice.
I
had
a
daughter
who
took
to
college
over
this
weekend.
I
got
back
at
2
a.m
this
morning.
So
if
you,
if
you
wonder
why
my
voice
sounds
like
it's
been
working,
it's
been
working.
No
doubt
no
doubt
we're
pleased
to
be
before
you
this
morning
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
readiness
report
and
to
share
with
you
an
overview
of
how
we
got
to
where
we
are.
H
Our
firm
has
helped
number
of
local
agencies
work
through
this
process,
so
we
chose
to
use
the
same
framework
that
we've
used
for
those
other
cities
and
school
boards
and
counties
to
work
them
through.
How
do
you
get
to
a
valid,
defensible
small
business
program,
you'll
notice
that
the
readiness
report
started
with
an
overview
of
a
case
called
crossing
versus
the
city
of
richmond?
I
won't
bore
you
with
all
the
detail.
H
I'll
just
tell
you
that
crossing
was
raised
because
the
question
was
in
the
70s
and
80s.
There
was
a
strategy
to
try
to
address
what
were
long-standing
discriminatory
practices
by
cities
and
counties
around
the
country
when
it
came
to
race
and
gender,
but
the
question
before
the
supreme
court
was
this:
can
you
have
a
program
that
is
in
essence,
race
specific
without
having
data
to
back
it
up?
H
But
you
didn't
use
those
in
this
instance
minority
or
women-owned
programs
or
businesses.
Then
you
would
be
challenged
or
you
would
be
you'd
have
the
you'll
be
found
to
have
perhaps
engaged
in
discriminatory
outcomes
that
demanded
a
remedy?
H
H
They
said
that
you
can
only
have
these
remedies
in
place
as
long
as
it
took
to
solve
the
problem
once
the
problem
was
solved,
your
race
specific
program
needed
to
disappear
needed
to
go
away.
You
had
no
legal
basis
for
that
race,
specific
program
to
continue
because
you
had
remedied
the
issues
that
had
all
the
disparity
that
was
identified
by
that
statistical
analysis.
H
So
with
that
backdrop,
let
me
take
you
to
let
me
at
least
perhaps
close
for
you
with
two
observations
number
one.
H
The
message
was
that
if
you
wanted
to
have
a
small
business
program,
the
answer
was
absolutely
you
can
from
a
legal
perspective.
Secondly,
the
question
was
well.
How
do
you
make
sure
that
your
procurement
and
your
other
solicitation
practices
don't
slip
into
discriminating
against
folks
based
on
their
race
or
gender?
H
Your
market,
as
the
city
of
clearwater
is
not
solely
just
the
city
itself?
It
does
include
nellis
county.
If
you
look
at
other
agencies
in
pinellas
and
around
this
area,
normally
it's
a
five
to
seven
county,
a
radius
that
defines
your
market,
so
it
includes
hillsboro.
It
includes
manatee.
It
includes
pasco
generally
includes
hernando
generally
includes
sarasota
and
in
some
instances
includes
polk
as
well.
H
They
define
that
as
your
market,
so
it's
the
msm,
that's
correct.
So,
as
a
result,
our
recommendation
is
to
you,
or
was
at
least
do
you
do
not
you
don't
have
to
reinvent
the
wheel.
You
have
other
government
government
agencies
who've
already
gone
through
this
analysis,
they've
determined
that
your
smsa
is
your
market
for
purposes
or
purposes
of
analysis.
H
Secondly,
availability
was
the
other
pillar
and
what's
interesting
about
availability.
Is
that
they
don't
mean?
Was
there
a
shingle
hanging
and
the
door
was
open
for
business?
H
H
Well,
you
would
argue
perhaps
that
commercial
electrical
work
is
very
different
than
what
you
would
do
on
a
single
family
home.
So
the
quest
there
would
be
a
question
of
initially
of.
Are
you
truly
ready
to
perform
the
services
that
the
city
in
this
instance
would
require,
but
there's
also
another
nugget,
that's
called
willing
and
able
and
again
that,
using
that
same
example,
if
you
put
a
rfp
on
the
street
or
bid
on
the
street
and
those
available
those
businesses,
those
electricians
in
your
market
did
not
bid
on
the
opportunity.
H
Then
it
would
be
unfair
to
hold
you
the
owner
responsible
for
doing
business
with
someone
who
didn't
come
to
you
to
compete.
So
what
these
programs
are
designed
to
do
is
open
the
door
of
competition
so
from
from
a
procurement
standpoint,
ms
vogel
and
other
procurement
directors
love
this
concept.
H
If
you're
deepening
the
pool
of
competition,
that
means
you're
confirming
your
pricing,
it's
where
it
should
be.
It's
a
certain.
It's
confirming
that
your
scope
is
responsive,
so,
as
a
result,
you're
looking
at
a
a
win-win,
but
in
this
context
availability
does
not
stand
for.
Is
your
door
just
open?
It
really
does
say.
Can
you
provide
the
surface
that's
required
by
the
city
in
the
scope?
That's
been
pulling
the
table
so
as
a
result,
our
takeaway
was
as
follows.
H
Secondly,
best
practice
says
that
you
should
be
able
to
be
positioned
to
capture
and
measure
key
analytics
before
it
can
be
suggested
that
a
race
specific
program
is
necessary
or
required.
H
H
So
typically,
when
we've
talked
to
our
other
governmental
clients
over
the
years,
we've
said
to
them:
don't
rush
to
a
race,
specific
program,
you're
smart
to
establish
a
race,
neutral
effort
and
I've
been
asked.
Well,
does
race
neutral
mean
if,
if
I'm
a
white
irish
male
owned
company,
I
can
compete
in
this
program,
and
the
answer
is
absolutely
yes,
but
a
small.
The
defining
measure
for
your
involvement
in
that
competition
is.
Are
you
small
has
nothing
to
do
with
your
race,
nothing
to
do
with
your
gender?
H
Let's
also
look
at
how
do
you
measure
how
you
guide
your
readiness,
and
we
chose
two
other
reference
points
for
you
to
work
from,
and
I
was
looking
at
internal
infrastructure
as
well
as
performance
assessment.
H
What
we
determined
was-
and
this
is
typical
when
we
look
at
any
governmental
agency,
we
look
at
basically
six
questions
that
guide.
H
Are
you
perhaps
ready
to
measure
the
data
to
be
able
to
determine
whether
you
have
an
issue
or
not?
Our
conclusion?
After
going
through
those
six
questions
was
yes,
you
did
make
a
solid
decision
in
placing
this
program
under
your
economic
development
and
housing
division
because
of
their
internal
as
well
as
external
role.
In
talking
with
your
community
as
well
as
working
internally.
H
Performance
assessment
was
the
other
reference
that
we
took
a
look
at
specifically
as
a
as
a
pillar.
H
Our
sense
was
that
you
are
ahead
of
the
game
when
it
comes
to
your
newest
software
system,
because
munis
has
a
capacity
to
put
in
place
the
measurement
criteria
that
you
find
in
most
disparity
studies,
so
as
opposed
to
other
governmental
agencies
who
have
to
go
out
and
buy
software,
you
have
the
potential
at
least
of
not
being
able
to
have
that
software
already
in
place.
H
H
So
again,
our
sense
is
that
you're
ahead
of
the
curve,
but
we're
also
recommending
to
you
that
it's
important
that
your
team
take
a
look
at
how
those
systems
can
be
built
out
to
see.
If
we
can
give
you
all
the
data
reports,
you
need
to
be
able
to
meet
the
measurement
of
data
analytics
criteria
and
additionally,
offered
two
observations.
Number
one.
H
H
H
On
the
other
side
of
the
coin,
you
have
the
opportunity
to
met
to
set
up
those
measurement
criterias
that
allow
you
to
see
just
how
responsive
you
are
your
program.
Our
programs
are
your
solicitations
are
your
both
in
construction,
as
well
as
in
goods
and
services,
to
begin
to
measure
again
credibly
and
with
validation.
H
Our
recommendation
was
that
you
need
to
allow
staff
to
be
about
the
business
of
evaluating
just
how
deep
your
software
systems
can
currently
proceed
so
that,
if
because,
if
they
can
answer
the
call
they
can
answer
the
challenge,
then
you're
going
to
be
able
to
be
like
years
ahead
of
other
agencies
in
launching
this
program,
much
quicker
than
you
might
have.
Ordinarily.
H
H
So
our
suggestion
to
you
was
that
in
economic
development
you
were
looking
at
two
ftes,
one
of
which
that
would
deal
with
vendor
outreach,
maintenance
and
policy
implementation.
The
second
dealing
with
data
data,
analysis
and
procurement.
You
have
one
fte
that
will
look
at
revising
bid,
specs,
small
local
bid
and
rfqs
and
rfp
solicitations
your
vendor
soft
self-serve
modifications,
as
well
as
your
looking
at
your
ccna
and
cmar
construction
project,
solicitation
and
then
finally,
in
finance,
I.t
and
finance.
H
We
recommended
that
there
would
be
one
ftv
in
that
particular
department
to
help
with
all
of
the
software
coordination
as
well
as
interfacing
with
immune
payment
systems,
because
one
of
the
things
that
you
have
as
an
advantage,
if
you
brought
in
outside
software
that
software
has
to
match
up
with
your
financial
systems
in
order
to
be
able
to
talk
to
one
another
and
for
all
the
security
and
all
the
other
factors
that
all
it
professionals
will
tell.
You
is
a
real
issue.
H
It's
critical
that
you're
careful
that
that
interface
doesn't
cause
for
access
to
your
systems
that
you
do
not
want
in
terms
of
your
internal
safety
and
making
sure
your
records
are
protected
as
they
should
be.
So
in
closing
number
one,
I
shared
with
staff
that
the
one
thing
the
one
phrase
you'll
never
hear
me
use
is
that
outcomes
are
defined
by
good
faith.
H
H
H
Because,
first
that's
going
to
be
your
long-standing
platform,
regardless
of
whether
you
have
any
statistical
despair
of
discriminatory
issues
or
not.
But
more
importantly,
that's
the
foundation.
That's
going
to
gather
the
data
that
you
need
to
gather
in
order
to
be
able
to
measure
and
test
how
good
or
how
much
better
you
need
to
be.
H
We
also
recommended
that
there
was
a
need
to
look
at
your
immune
capabilities
and
vendor
self-serve
for
tracking
and
to
make
sure
that
they
are
able
to
that
we're
that
software
is
able
to
expand
appropriately,
to
give
you
the
measurement
tools
to
be
able
to
see
whether
you
are
as
strong
as
you'd
like
to
think
you
are
or,
if
others
think,
you're
weak.
H
How
do
you
measure
that
weakness
and
how
you
move
it
from
a
point
of
weakness
to
a
place
of
strength?
I'll,
stop
there?
That's
again,
we
wanted
to
give
you
a
basic
overview
of
that
readiness
analysis,
give
you
some
early
conclusions
and
then
share
with
you
some
of
the
recommendations
that
we
offered
as
well
I'll
step
back
from
the
podium
at
this
point
and
allow
miss
anderson
to
continue
and
I'll
be
available.
Obviously,
for
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
Thank
you,
mr
morrison.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
bob,
so
council,
so
if
you
as
you've
just
heard,
there's
quite
a
bit
that
needs
to
be
considered
here
before
we
develop
and
implement
a
program,
it's
important
to
note
a
few
things
before.
I
turn
it
over
to
for
discussion.
B
Firstly,
that
munis
has
been
conducting
training
with
procurement
and
I.t
on
the
vendor
self-serve
program,
and
my
understanding
is
that
it's
going
to
be
deployed
by
october
1..
It
has
not
yet
been
deployed.
Laurie
bogle
is
here
to
answer
some
of
those
specific
questions
if
needed
and
understanding
more
fully.
What
the
munich
software
capability
is
will
give
us
more
insight
into
how
we
interface
or
work
with
data
and
databases
of
other
regional
partners
that
have
an
sbe
program
depending
upon
the
efficiency
gained
with
munich
self-serve
versus
the
other
databases
that
exist.
B
That
fte
recommendation
could
in
fact
be
reduced
down
to
three.
So
because
of
these
unknowns-
and
those
ftes
I
should
mention-
are
not
in
the
fy
2223
budget
and
because
of
these
unknowns,
there's
still
a
little
bit
more
work
to
do
before
I
come
back
to
you
with
a
solid
recommendation
on
the
one
time
and
ongoing.
J
B
J
B
And
there's
coding
that
needs
to
be
done
within
the
vendor:
self-serve
module.
So
until
we
know
fully
what
it's
capable
of
doing
and
the
reports
that
it
can
produce
and
the
performance
measures
that
it
can
track.
It
would
really
being
coming
on
me
to
to
not
make
a
recommendation
as
it
relates
to
that.
B
That
interface,
whether
or
not
can
interface
with
munis,
it
may
cause
some
security
issues,
as
bob
just
suggested
and
vendor
self-serve
may
accomplish
that,
and
whether
or
not
b2g
now
can
communicate
with
vendor.
Self-Serve
is
still
to
be
determined
until
we
can
fully
implement.
We
don't
really
know
what
we
need.
G
I
have,
and
specifically
with
the
software
our
I.t
director
has
concerns
about
b,
to
g
adopting
that
that's
something
that
we
need
to
work
through.
I
was
concerned
about
the
four
additional
ftes.
It
seems
a
lot
to
implement
the
program.
I.
A
B
Well,
the
consultant
has
recommended
four
based
on
what
we
think
we
know
about
vendor
self-serve,
and
so
the
challenge
is
getting
the
data
from
b2g
now,
which
really
has
a
robust,
a
thousand
vendors
in
that
system,
because
so
many
are
using
it.
Integrating
that
data
into
our
data
is
really
where
some
data
analytics
and
and
work
needs
to
be
conducted.
G
H
H
There
is
that
point
where,
when
you're,
looking
at
being
fully
having
a
program
fully
implemented,
there
are
some
pieces
of
that
puzzle
that
you
would
now
be
able
to
then
be
able
to
gauge
whether
one
two
or
three
skill
sets
are
still
required,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
other
side
of
the
of
the
rainbow,
if
you
will
was
on
the
table
that
if
the
question
is,
could
you
start
this
program
with
no
additional
support?
H
The
answer
is,
in
the
short
term
sure
you
could
start,
but
there
would
be
a
point
and
perhaps
it
would
be
in
next
year's
budget,
where
you
would
begin
to
analyze
what
then,
if
any
additional
need
might
exist.
B
You
know,
I
don't
know,
that's
not
something
we've
explored.
I
will
say
that
pinellas
county
has
a
pretty
interesting
program.
They
could
do
a
fair
amount
of
work
because
of
the
work
that
they're
currently
doing
so
they
have
us
within
their
economic
development
department.
They
have
an
office
of
supplier,
diversity,
they've
added
four
ftes
within
that
department.
B
I
believe
procurement
added
one,
so
they
are
engaging
directly
and
deeply
with
sbes
on
a
number
of
different
things,
so
so
bob
hinted
at
it
a
little
bit
or
described
it
briefly
in
his
report,
where
we
really
run
into
a
challenge
is
and
I'll
use,
imagine
clearwater
as
a
great
example,
so
we
have
construction
manager
at
risk.
Subcontractors
are
hired,
so
what
an
sbe
program
might
look
like
in
the
future.
B
Why
not?
And
there
would
be
a
penalty
perhaps
to
that
prime
for
that
utilizing
the
small
business
that
they
committed
to
doing
so
two
to
three
years
prior.
So
there's
a
deep
level
of
understanding
and
follow-through.
That
is
not
typical
in
any
of
the
work
that
we
currently
do,
neither
in
economic
development
or
in
procurement,
as
you
might
imagine
so,
but
that
being
able
to
track
that
utilization
and
hold
accountable
through.
Perhaps
a
long
period
of
time
is
really
where
a
lot
of
the
work
comes
in.
B
H
One
other
observation,
one
of
the
challenges
of
outsourcing
is
that
when
it
comes
your
financial
systems
and
accessibility
to
your
internal
software,
your
I.t
folks,
as
all
rit
leadership,
will
tell
you
if
you
never
give
an
outside
vendor
access
to
your
financial
systems.
So
that's
where,
just
if
we
begin
the
conversation,
one
of
the
challenges
with
outsourcing
is
that's
one
bucket
that
calls
for
stepping
back
and
determining
where
that
firewall
exists.
E
Thank
you.
I
had.
First
of
all,
I'm
I'm
happy
that
you
did
this
study
and
I
you
know
it
first
came
to
my
attention.
When
I
was
elected,
we
had
coveted
and
had
a
quick
response,
and
I
asked
well:
do
we
have
minority
businesses
involved
in
those
discussions
we
didn't
have
any
way
to
track
them,
and
so
I
was
happy
to
learn
that
we
were
going
to
have
some
optional
demographic
questions
on
our
business
tax
receipt
this
go
around,
but
we
had
a
stumbling
block
where
we've
lost
a
month
of
data,
so
hopefully
that'll.
E
So
that
seems
to
me
like
the
first
step
right
to
get
some
information
and
then
we
can
make
decisions
about
full-time
equivalence
and
and
all
that
maybe
next
year's
budget.
But
one
of
the
concerns
I
had
you
know
if
we're
when
we
collect
this
data
with
our
business
tax
receipts,
which
again
it's
self-reported
right,
is:
does
it
get
put
into
the
pool
of
five
to
seven
surrounding
counties
and
will
our
data
really
even
make
a
difference?
You
know
if
we
have
data
already
from
five
to
seven
counties.
H
I've
been
short
answer.
Is
I've
seen
those
local
businesses
where
that
focus
is
that
laser
is
put
in
place,
there's
a
very
different
and
very
clear
impact,
because
what
happens
and
I'll
describe
it
like
this
in
the
normal
source,
normal
course
of
business
notices,
put
out
it's
that
there
for
anyone
to
take
a
look
at
if
they
can
capture
it.
H
E
Are
you
involved
at
all
in
discussions,
so
I've
had
a
couple
of
discussions
with
people
in
economic
development
at
the
county
level,
as
well
as
in
some
surrounding
cities,
about
having
a
streamlined
application
process
kind
of
like
a
common
app
in
college,
where
those
vendors
answer
the
same
questions
for
multiple
municipalities
in
our
region.
To
streamline
that
process
of
getting
you
know
being
qualified
to
bid
is.
Is
that
moving
anywhere.
H
It
is
and
what
one
of
the
things
that
we
recommended
is
that
you
would
not
be
about
the
business
of
recreating
a
validation
or
certification,
a
business
who
says
they
they
are
small,
really
are
small.
You
would
take
advantage
of
the
work
that
pinellas
county
or
the
city
of
saint
pete
or
hillsborough
county
has
done,
and
if
they
certified
those
businesses
as
small,
then
you
benefited
automatically
because
of
that
reciprocity
or
that
willingness
to
take
to
trust
the
validation
that
those
other
agencies
have
done.
H
H
If
there
is
a
common
document
that
captures
the
essential
information
that
all
bonding
companies
require,
that's
less
paperwork
for
the
small
business,
that's
less
paperwork
for
the
city
and
and
your
team.
So
those
conversations
are
ongoing,
but
they're
targeted
to
hit
very
much
where
you're
asking,
let's
find
a
way
to
find
efficiencies,
yeah
and
effectiveness.
At
the
same
time,.
B
So,
in
my
view,
there
are
two
different
directions
we
can
go.
One
is
we
implement
vendor
self-serve.
We
understand
more
fully
what
it
can
produce,
what
it's
capable
of
doing
we'll
have
a
better
idea
than
of
the
fte
count
and
the
one-time
or
ongoing
cost
that
that
may
be
a
result
of
that
implementation
or
its
effectiveness
and.
B
B
Secondly,
we
can
move
forward
with
vendor
self-serve,
while
also
beginning
phase
two
of
this
process,
which
is
development
of
the
policies
procedures,
certain
policies
or
certain
documents
contracts.
Things
like
that
would
need
to
be
modified
to
incorporate
an
sbe
program,
establish
the
criteria
under
which
we'd
have
a
sheltered
market,
etc.
So,
really
looking
for
guidance
from
you
all
in
terms
of
where
you
are
comfort
level
of
where
we
are
today
and
which
path
you'd
like
to
take,
make
a
small
step
or
make
concurrent
steps,
if
you
will
in
moving
this
forward.
B
So
we
are
currently
under
contract
with
mr
morrison
phase.
One
of
that
project,
which
is
complete,
was
it
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
phase
two
and
phase
two
would
be
all
of
those
steps
that
I've
just
mentioned
up
to
and
including
deployment
beginning
the
program
that
is
twenty
five
twenty
thousand
dollars,
and
then
we
have
a
small
five
thousand
dollar
technical
assistance
budget
and.
B
We
could
deploy
in
as
early
as
about
three
to
four
months.
We
would
need
to
wait
until
after
october,
one
certainly
to
understand
what
vendor
self-serve
is
going
to
do,
because
that's
when
we're
implementing
that.
B
I
said
coding
work
that
needs
to
happen
with
vendor
self-serve,
so
we
could
deploy,
I
would
say,
probably
by
the
end
of
the
year,
if
we
begin
phase
two
right
now
or
if
we
wait
until
after
vendor
self-serve
and
do
some
analysis
and
come
back
to
you
that
deployment
gets
pushed
a
little
bit
further.
G
G
I
mean
there's
a
lot
to
look
at
as
opposed
to
just
implementing
a
program.
I
would
like
to
thank,
though
denise
and
the
entire
economic
development
department
who've
really
put
a
lot
of
work
into
this
and
and
but
I
I
think,
there's
just
so
many
questions
that
still
need
to
be
answered
internally.
So.
A
Mr
margolis
anything
that
you
want
us
to
look
out
for.
K
No,
I
agree
with
mr
morrison.
Definitely
we
are
on
much
safer
ground
legally
by
focusing
on
a
small
business
program
than
we
are
on
our
race,
conscious
or
otherwise
basis.
The
courts
have
been
extremely
skeptical
on
equal
protection
grounds
of
government
using
race,
conscious
criteria,
and
things
like
that.
You
know.
As
mr
morrison
pointed
out,
the
person
decision
is
pretty
much
directly
on
point
from
the
u.s
supreme
court
and
I
would
add
to
that
by
saying
that
in
the
years
since
crossing
we've
actually
seen,
I
would
say,
more.
K
Conservative
developments
out
of
the
courts
here
in
the
11th
circuit
federally,
which
is
where
florida
is
located.
The
decisions
are
of
the
courts
have
been
have
set
an
extremely
high
bar
for
local
government
to
use
race,
conscious
criteria
or
things
like
that.
But
if
we
focus
on
a
small
business
program,
that
would
seem
to
be
the
way
to
go
as
far
as
what
form
that
takes
or
what
shape
that
takes.
K
But
from
my
perspective,
legally,
the
only
issue
is
really
trying
to
focus
on
the
small
business
aspect
of
it,
and
the
only
way
that
we
ever
could
look
at
a
race
conscious
program
would
be
if
there
was
a
disparity
study
as
well
as
some
very
intensive
statistical
analysis
to
go
along
with
that,
and
the
courts
are
very
skeptical
of
it.
So
we
would
need
to
be.
B
In
october
of
last
year-
and
this
predates
you
as
well,
so
I
apologize-
we
talked
about
a
disparity
study.
When
is
the
right
time
and
the
county's
recommendation
to
border
county
commissioners
was
three
years
post
implementation
of
an
sbe
full
implementation
of
an
sbe
program
where
you
have
three
years
of
self-attested
data
race,
gender,
self-reported.
E
C
L
My
name
is
lori
vogel
procurement
manager,
vendor
self-serve,
is
a
module
that
will
go
into
the
financial
system.
What
we're
hoping
to
accomplish
is
to
gather
reporting
when
the
vendors
register
with
the
city
so
that
we
can
utilize
when
we're
doing
bids
or
quotes,
and
things
of
that
nature
that
we
can
reach
out
to
these
businesses,
letting
them
know
of
the
opportunities,
but
because
currently
we
have
nothing
in
place
to
to
connect
to
our
small
business
programs.
G
You
know,
I
would
just
say
that,
where
I
was
previously,
we
had
implemented
vendor
self-serve
and
it
there
were
a
few
bumps
in
the
road,
as
is
normal,
but
it
worked
terrifically,
particularly
for
our
ability
to
be
able
to
track
data
and
information
and
interface
with
with
companies
that
were
hoping
to
work
with
the
city.
So
so
I'm
really
yeah.
I'm
really
we're
really
pushing
this,
but
it's
not
specific
to
implementation
of
an
sbe
program.
This
is
a
more
comprehensive
you
know
for
for
the
city.
L
And
it
will
kind
of
tell
us
hopefully
in
my
vision,
it
will
kind
of
tell
us
vendors
that
we're
already
currently
working
with
they'll
be
able
to
put
that
information
into
the
system
and
they're
reporting.
You
know
payments
made
to
that
vendor
how
many
we've
already
been
using
utilizing
and
things
like
that,
so
it
would
just
hopefully
provide
a
good
reporting
tool
and
that's
a
member
punker.
E
A
Well,
I
think
we
need
the
data
I
mean
without
that
it's
very
difficult
to
be
making
any
judgments.
So
I
support
going
forward
and
starting
to
collect
the
data
and
then
coming
back
with
an
actual
implementation
plan.
Long
term.
B
Okay,
so
to
be
clear,
we'll
be
implementing
vendor
self-serve
do
some
analysis
on
what
it
can
produce
and
I
think
I
failed
to
mention
the
b2g.
Now
software
that's
being
utilized
by
other
organizations.
We
have
access
to
that
database
through
this
process
and
I
would
suggest
we
gather
during
this
time
those
vendors
at
vendor
list
and
work
on
importing
that
vendor
list
into
vendor
self-serve,
so
that
we
have
a
more
robust
communication
with
them
through
that
module
and
then
we'll
have
an
understanding.
E
B
Yes,
I
would
suggest
you
from
an
economic
development
perspective,
it's
not
a
good
practice
to
suggest
that
we
would
prioritize
clearwater
based
businesses
over
others.
Secondly,
we
want
our
clearwater
based
businesses
to
have
access
to
the
full
seven
county
marketplace,
utilizing
b2g
or
other
types
of
systems
out
there.
So
it's
very
important
that
we
have
a
broad
shelter
market
that
can
be
competitive
but,
of
course,
from
economic.
N
N
A
E
Go
ahead
sure!
Well,
this
is
just
I
guess
it's.
E
I
won't
comment
on
the
whole
thing
right
now,
but
when
you
said
that
putting
it
into
general
funds
allows
us
the
most
flexibility
right
and,
and
I'm
okay
with
that
in
the
final
rule,
and
all
that
business
least
restrictive
and
provides
us
the
most
flexibility
of
the
funds
and
that
these
we
think
of
these
as
budgets
and
they'll
come
to
the
council
for
approval,
which
is
all
fine,
but
I
would
suggest
that
we
could
have
to
be
very
transparent,
some
sort
of
a
web
page
or
link
on
our
city
website
about
kind
of
like
a
ledger
of
the
arpa
funds,
22
point
almost
5
million
and
where
they
are
earmarked
for
where
they're
budgeted
for
when
they've
been
spent
and
for
what
type
of
a
program
just
to
be
real,
transparent.
E
So
people
who
think
you
know
hey,
we
have
that
22.4
million,
where,
where
is
it
going?
How
is
it
being
spent?
Is
it
spent?
Yet?
What
am
I
seeing
in
my
city-
and
I
just
think
that'd-
be
a
good
practice,
because
things
are
going
to
be
happening
throughout
the
next
until
2026,
when
they're
all
spent.
A
Well,
the
initial
list
moved
around
quite
a
bit,
I
mean
originally,
you
know
we
had
3
million
for
northward
rehab.
We
had
2.1
for
osceola,
we
eliminated
the
development
service
center
for
a
million.
A
A
We
have,
I
think,
thrown
a
fair
amount
of
money
at
some
big
issues.
I
think
we
need
to
prime
the
pump
for
the
cra
in
north
greenwood
was
that
northward
money
originally
a
part
of
that
five
million.
Now
that
was
going
to
go
into
the
north
greenwood
cra?
A
A
Affordable
housing
is
obviously
an
issue
across
the
entire
country
and
in
tampa
bay.
I
would
like
to
see
us
do
something
that
is
improving
the
business
climate
and
training
people,
and
I
have
been
talking
to
our
chamber
about
a
business
incubator.
A
Also
st
pete
college
is
interested
and
then
also
a
group
called
reap,
which
is
retired
executive
advisory
panel.
It's
a
really
interesting
group
of
retired
executives
that
live
here
in
clearwater
and
bel,
air
and
elsewhere,
and
I
have
spoken
to
them
about
being
consultants
for
free
to
business
owners
who
are
starting
out.
These
are
executives
that
have
come
from
either
starting
their
own
corporations
to
fortune
500
companies,
and
I
approached
them
because
I
thought
you
know
as
a
retiree,
you
still
need
to
stay
in
the
game.
A
One
of
the
things
I
see
in
my
business,
which
is
trying
to
help
people
to
retire-
it's
not
always
the
healthiest
thing
to
retire,
it's
good
to
have
the
resources,
but
the
actual
retirement
can
be
devastating
to
your
mind
and
everything
else.
So
between
st
p
college,
this
reap
group
and
the
chamber.
G
I
have
also
met
and
spoken
with
the
amplifi,
the
local
chamber,
about
their
intent.
We
are
working
with
them
on
the
possibility
of
leasing,
some
city-owned
space
and
they're,
looking
at
the
incubator,
potentially
on
the
second
floor,
and
I
know
that
in
speaking
with
the
ceo,
they
are
seeking
county
funding
and
certainly
it
would
be
up
to
the
council
to
decide
whether
you
want
to
cha
amend
the
the
recommendations.
A
I
would
like
to
set
aside
a
quarter
of
a
million
for
the
startup
if
they
get
county
money,
that's
marvelous
that
can
be
additive,
but
I
think
there
should
be
something
in
this
plan
that
is
helping
generate
jobs
and
raising
people's
incomes
so
that
they
can
afford
better
housing
and
and
also
employ
people.
So
vice
mayor.
E
Well,
I
would
say
that
you
know
that
sounds
like
a
fantastic
program.
I
would
support
it,
but
you
know
the
north
greenwood
cra
has
its
focus
as
reducing
poverty,
and
they
have
like
seven
pillars
of
what
they're
working
towards,
and
one
of
them
is
education,
and
you
know
employment
opportunities.
E
I
would
also
think
that
the
pinellas
community
foundation
million
there,
the
non-profit
funding
grant-based
program,
another
million
there
in
education,
grants
or
partnerships.
It
seems
like
that
reap
program
would
fall
into
any
one
of
those
three
pretty
broad
descriptors
there,
which
is
three
million
dollars
already.
I
would
say,
let's
wait
and
have
it
come
before
us
as
a
full
program
before
we
allocate.
You
know
to
one
specific.
E
E
This
non-profit
funding
for
grant-based
and
education
grants
is
to
me
it's
important
that
we
have
clearwater
residents
involved
in
some
way
as
far
as
really
soliciting
them
for
ideas
or
engaging
residents
to
evaluate
these
ideas
and
grant
proposals
in
some
way
just
to
have
them
engaged.
I
mean
this
is
their
money
for
our
community
and-
and
I
would
you
know,
I
think,
those
fine
details
have
to
be
worked
out,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
other.
You
know,
non-profit
programs
that
would
like
to
be
considered
as
well.
E
P
What
the
penalties
community
foundation
what's
the
ear
mark?
Is
there
a
program
specifically
that's
earmarked
for
that
million.
G
So
that
is
in
speaking
with
the
director
executive
director
of
the
of
the
foundation,
we
can
set
the
criteria,
and
so
we
have
not,
of
course
done
that
without
input
from
the
council
and
so
the
whatever
it
is
that
you're
interested
in
using
the
utilizing
the
million
dollars
for
we
can
make
sure
the
foundation
understands.
J
I
would
I
would
like
I
have
a
few
conversations
every
day
about
this,
and
the
question
is
like:
why
don't
you
right?
Why
don't
you
spend
money
on
this
and
why
don't
we
do
this
and
there's
a
lot
of
misinformation
out
there?
One
of
the
things
that
I
noticed
is
when
I'm
looking
at
the
handouts
page
one
out
of
36
on
how
should
you
clear
water,
spend
the
city's
arpa
funds
and,
looking
over
the
survey,
I
would
love
to
have
it
posted
side-by-side?
J
What
we're
going
to
spend
and
what
the
survey
results
are
on
the
priorities
of
how
to
spend
it
and
see
how
aligned
we
are.
I
think
it
there's
a
lot
of
misperceptions
out
there
and
I
think,
having
it
side
by
side
shows
we
are
responding
to
what
we're
being
told.
So
I
thought
maybe
that
would
be
useful
on
our
website
to
do
that.
J
You
know
I
had
a
very
difficult
conversation
this
week
from
someone
who
feels
that
they're
disconnected
from
city
government
and
their
perception
was
that
we're
we're
not
engaged,
but
then
I
had
to
point
out
that
we
did
go
to
countryside
and
the
turnout
was
very
poor,
so
you
know
there's
two
sides
here:
we
we
want
to
be
engaged,
we
want
to
be
responsive,
but
the
citizens
have
to
meet
us
halfway
and
so
having
this
kind
of
information
at
least.
Even
though
the
sample
size
is
small,
it
does
show
some
responsiveness
to
our
to
our
citizens.
M
I'm
supportive
of
your
ideas
here,
one
of
the
things
that
really
impressed
me
when
I,
when
we
first
got
elected
here
sitting
down
with
bill
horn
and
him
at
least
letting
me
know
that
the
clearwater
urban
leadership
coalition
came
to
the
city
with
the
plan
for
the
the
cra,
and
it
was
all
people,
largely
people
based
education,
job
training.
Things
like
that,
so
vice
mayor
beckman
is
correct.
Some
of
that
money
could
be
used
toward
that.
I
think
it's
a
very
worthy
goal
and
use
of
the
money.
Q
Good
morning,
council,
my
name
is
alex
leon
engineering
manager
for
the
gas
department.
This
item
is
a
second
year
acceptance
for
for
us
to
go
into
services
agreement
with
our
heat
consultants
for
the
first
year
for
a
total
of
217
360
dollars,
with
an
option
to
renew
for
two
years.
After
that
heat
consultants
will
be
responsible
for
doing
a
leak
and
corrosion
service
in
our
systems
throughout
the
year,
and
this
will
seek
approval
for
the
first
year
to
start
with
them.
Q
Have
they
are
currently
during
the
survey
in
our
system?
Now,
okay,.
E
Q
I
I
understand
that,
however,
they
were
the
only
responsibilities
and
my
understanding
is
the
the
expertise
is
not
available
locally.
Even
they,
you
know
they
are
a
nation
nationwide
company.
They
were
the
only
responders
to
the
bid.
Okay,
thanks.
R
Morning,
mayor
council,
chris
cook,
senior
manager,
events
and
athletics
at
parks
and
recreation,
so
this
is
an
annual
council
item
that
follows
our
historic
practices
on
how
the
city
has
co-sponsored
events
this
last
year
we
did
move
this
process
to
a
digital
online
process,
which
became
more
open
for
people
to
apply.
We
have
27
events
listed
here.
R
R
Overall,
there
was
a
117
000
plus
decrease
in
the
general
funds
request
from
2122,
while
we
did
see
a
fifteen
thousand
dollar
increase
in
enterprise
funds,
primarily
due
to
parking
fees.
One
new
addition
to
this
item.
R
Well,
not
this
item,
but
one
new
addition
to
this
topic
is
at
the
department
level
we're
creating
specific
event
agreements
that
will
help
us
codify
the
numbers
that
are
in
here
and
to
be
able
to
communicate
clearly
or
more
clearly
to
the
event,
organizers
and
what
they'll
receive
from
us
and
it'll
also
help
us
hold
them
accountable
to
make
sure
that
we
have
our
logos.
R
You
know
on
their
websites
and
and
have
deliverables
back
to
the
city
with
the
renovation
and
reopening
of
coachman
park
we're
having
a
lot
of
excitement
from
event
producers,
it
will
be
a
popular
destination.
We
know,
along
with
our
upcoming
agreement
with
ruth
eckert
hall.
We
are
researching
new
processes
moving
forward
in
the
future,
so
not
to
say
that
this
won't
be
moving
forward,
as
is
but
we'll
be
providing
city
manager
with
kind
of
recommendations
on
where
this
process
can
go
in
the
future.
R
Also
last
note
related
to
coachman
park.
We
are
preparing
an
item
to
come
back
at
the
end
of
the
month,
where
we're
going
to
share
a
list
of
event,
ideas,
programming,
opportunities,
things
that
we've
heard
from
the
community
and
a
sample
calendar
to
ensure
that
your
expectations
are
what
we're
working
off
of
as
those
things
are
developed.
A
E
The
on
the
co-sponsored
events,
the
last
page,
there's
a
list
of
activities
supported
by
special
events,
are
those
ones
that
haven't
been
budgeted
for.
S
Morning,
dan
stark
chief
of
police
we've
had
our
relationship
for
28
years
with
the
pinellas
county
sheriff's
department
to
have
a
contractual
agreement
that
pays
for
certain
ancillary
police
services
that
includes
crime
scene
processing
this
year,
we'll
be
purchasing
in
advance.
1100
calls
for
service
at
a
rate
of
264.90,
which
is
an
increase
from
last
year's
contractor.
This
year's
current
contract
of
254.71
fingerprint
comparisons
will
be
a
thousand
cases
at
97.38
cents
per
case
and
that's
an
increase
from
93.63.
S
This
is
a
reduction,
though
we're
reducing
from
a
last
year.
We
purchased
100
cases
this
year,
we're
purchasing
a
thousand
property
evidence,
storage,
we're
purchasing
twelve
thousand
items
at
thirteen
dollars
and
sixty-seven
cents
per
item
and
increase,
that's
an
increase
from
thirteen
dollars
and
fourteen
cents,
the
pinellas
juvenile
assessment
center
fees
are,
it
stays
flat
at
eighty
four
dollars,
however,
we're
reducing
from
475
admissions
to
350
admissions,
so
the
total
expense
of
the
contract
is
582
210.
S
I'm
sorry,
I
guess
500
eighty
two
thousand
two
and
ten
dollars,
which
is
an
increase
from
five
hundred
sixty
three
thousand
eight
hundred
thirty
seven
dollars.
This
reflects
a
three
point:
two
six
percent
increase
from
the
previous
year's
contract.
There
was
a
contingency
for
a
little
over
thirty
six
thousand,
that's
in
the
event
that
we
needed
additional
crime,
scene
processing
or
some
other
ancillary
service,
in
addition
to
the
1100
or
whatever
purchase
that
we
needed
just
to
avoid
having
to
come
back
to
council.
S
S
The
state
has
to
do
every
year
to
account
for
the
reimbursement
or
provide
for
a
mechanism
to
do
the
reimbursement
it
allows
for
the
reimbursement
for
the
overtime
if
officers
are
called
to
service
on
this
task
force
also
travel
expenses
if
they
are
in
in
response
to
whether
it's
for
training
or
for
a
case,
training,
expenses
or
in
it,
sends
kind
of
a
also
a
maximum
reimbursement
rate
of
12
500
per
member
of
the
task
force.
We
have
one
member
assigned
to
this
task
force.
S
T
Good
morning
my
name
is
jeremy
brown,
engineering
manager,
one
of
utilities,
engineering's
responsibilities
is
to
manage
capital
improvement
projects
for
the
public
utilities
department
due
to
the
abundance
of
projects
and
limited
resources
available
to
manage
those
projects.
Additional
support
is
required.
T
E
T
Okay,
it's
part
of
our
policy
that
there's
no
travel
expenses
are
not
allowed
within
if
without
any
travel
within
tampa
bay
area,
you're
not
allowed
to
change.
T
U
T
T
V
Good
morning
mark
perry,
planning
and
development.
On
june
5th
of
2014,
the
city
council
approved
an
allocation
of
100
units
from
the
reserve
for
this
project
and
on
march
17
2015.
The
community
development
board
approved
that
project.
V
V
H
V
V
A
So
I
normally
like
tall
and
skinny
and
we're
reducing
height,
it's
nice
that
not
every
building's
150
feet
because
that's
our
max,
but
is
it
was
this
for
cost
savings
or
what
was
the
reason
for
this
alteration?
It's.
V
Pretty
yeah,
I
was
told
that
the
original
design
was
going
to
be
more
difficult
to
implement
and
that
this
will
be
easier
to
build
and
it
was
more
efficient
to
build,
but
that's
really
the
extent
of
what
I
know
again.
You
know
what
I
look
at
is
it
doesn't
meet
code?
Is
it
meeting
the
beach
by
design
provisions?
I
don't
get
too
involved
in.
Is
it
cheaper
to
build
or
more
expensive
to
build?
I
don't.
I
don't
really
get
into
that
aspect
of
it.
The
applicant
I'm
sure
can
answer
that
question.
V
Not
expanding
the
size
of
the
site
or
the
footprint,
so
the
footprint
is,
is
staying
the
same,
so
it's
it's
basically
had
this
base
and
then
you
have
the
the
tower
that
runs
on
top,
so
that
tower
component
is
shrinking
down
in
height
and
kind
of
expanding
outward,
but
on
top
of
the
original
base,
okay,
bye.
A
E
E
Yes,
we
have
beach,
walk
and
there's
more
of
a
buffer
there,
and
that
looks
nice,
but
we
have
really
hundreds
if
not
thousands,
of
people
that
walk
on
coronado
and-
and
you
know
the
proximity
of
the
street
is
inches,
and
so
I
worry
about
our
lighting.
There
reflect
we
need
reflective
crosswalks,
we
need
some
more
blinking
crosswalks
and
it
looks
like
this
adds
two
more
vehicle
exits
and
adds
to
you
know
some
congestion
there.
That's
those
are
just
my
concerns,
but
it
sounds
like
if
it
fits
code.
It
fits
code
right.
V
Yeah,
the
setbacks
are,
are
not
changing.
They're
required
to
have
a
15-foot
setback
on
coronado.
None
of
that's
changing,
really
everything.
Almost
everything.
A
W
Good
morning,
gina
clayton,
planning
and
development,
unless
you
want
the
presentation
again,
I
plan
not
to
do
that.
I
have
an
abbreviated
version,
but
I
think
that
mr
margolis
could
answer
any
questions.
There
are
a
lot
of
minor
tweaking
to
the
document,
a
lot
of
editorial
revisions
and
nothing
changed
at
all
with
the
density,
intensity,
uses,
etc.
K
Not
a
lot
I
mean,
as
I
shared
with
council
last
time,
the
document
was
pretty
much
complete
in
substance,
miss
cole
and
I
spent
time
looking
at
typos,
formatting
scrivener's
errors.
I
do
not
believe
anything
material
has
changed.
We
had
a
couple
words
here
and
there
that
either
were
not
clear
or
we
forgot
to
add
the
word
or
things
like
that,
but
in
substance
this
is
exactly
the
same
document
as
you
saw
previously.
K
I
do
just
want
to
point
out
that
this
development
agreement,
as
noted
in
the
item,
does
call
for
the
allocation
for
the
parking
fund.
At
some
point,
we
will,
assuming
this
gets
approved
by
council
and
then
approved
by
voters,
need
to
enter
into
a
separate
escrow
agreement
which
will
set
aside
both
the
parking
fund
allocation,
because
this
will
go
to
the
buyer,
slash
developer
at
the
real
estate
closing
and
also
those
commitments
that
we
are
making
on
the
public
side.
K
Specifically,
there
are
commitments
in
the
development
agreement
for
us
to
do
streetscape
improvements
on
osceola,
which
of
course
is
our
property,
as
well
as
our
shared
commitment
with
the
developers
for
the
pedestrian
bridge
or
walkway.
However,
we
design
it,
which
will
also
be
on
our
property,
so
part
of
this
agreement
does
call
for
us
to
set
aside
that
money
prior
to
closing
the
closing
will
not
take
place
until
late
2024,
most
likely.
K
A
X
Mayor
and
council
excuse
me
rich
gardner,
director
of
public
utilities.
The
idea
today
is
for
an
increase
in
the
annual
amount
of
a
previously
approved
contract
with
hot
company
of
chicago
we're
asking
for
an
increase
from
the
current
annual
amount
of
fifty
thousand
to
three
hundred
thousand
dollars.
X
C
Y
Good
morning,
prairie
condon
fleet
manager,
the
fleet
division,
is
requesting
a
consolidated
expenditure,
authorization
for
the
acquisition
of
vehicles
and
equipment
per
the
attached
spreadsheet.
New
purchases
are
a
mix
of
designated
units
due
to
due
for
replacement
in
fy
23,
which
have
reached
the
end
of
their
useful
and
economic
life
and
vehicle
additions.
Y
Related
to
the
anticipated
addition
of
ftes
for
fy23
factors
used
to
determine
the
end
of
useful
and
economic
life
include,
but
are
not
limited
to
age
life
to
date,
mileage
hours
of
operation,
historical
maintenance
costs
as
compared
to
like
vehicles,
operating
cost
per
mile
an
hour
and
anticipated
in
ongoing
repairs
and
the
physical
condition
due
to
delays
in
manufacturing,
the
fleet
department
requesting
to
begin
procurement
of
the
vehicles
of
the
vehicles
and
equipment
on
the
fy
23
vehicle
replacement
ahead
of
the
fy
23
budget.
That
starts
october.
Y
1St
2022
authorization
is
requested
to
piggyback
off
the
contracts
that
are
listed
below
authorization
to
add.
Additional
piggyback
contracts
is
requested
as
needed
to
ensure
the
city
is
receiving
the
most
competitive
pricing
for
vehicles
and
equipment
which
will
be
monitored
by
the
procurement
division
and
the
authorization
of
additional
contracts
will
not
go
beyond
the
not
to
exceed
amount
requested
authorization
to
procure
additional
features,
not
included
in
the
piggyback
contracts,
as
in
practical
due
to
delay
and
receipt
of
vehicle
and
equipment,
possible,
void
of
warranty
for
after-market
items
and
manufacturer
delay
and
receiving
parts
and
etc.
Y
Typically,
when
procuring
additional
features
through
the
dealership,
these
features
are
priced
below
msrp,
and
this
will
be
monitored
for
compliance
by
the
procurement
division,
while
most
of
the
vehicles
and
equipment
are
procured
through
piggyback
contracts
for
those
vehicles
that
do
not
fall
under
this
category,
authorization
is
requested
to
procure
these
vehicles
and
equipment
through
competitive
quotes
and
purchases
under
fifty
thousand
dollars.
This
will
also
be
monitored
by
compliance
through
the
procurement
division.
I'd
be
happy
to
ask
answer
any
questions.
Y
Y
The
combination
definitely
supply
issues,
supply
chain
shortage
chip
issues
are
still
going
on.
I
just
listened
to
a
report.
Last
week
they
called
the
flight
of
the
state
of
the
fleet
address
and
it's
a
weekly
or
bi-weekly
issue
from
the
people
in
the
know,
let's
say,
and
they
perceive
the
chip
issue
going
on
in
it
to
2025.
A
F
Yes,
there
are
a
number
of
new
vehicles
related
to
the
employee
ads
as
well
from
both
parks
and
rec,
and
that's
the
other
reason
that
that
number
is
pretty
high.
P
P
Y
Older
vehicles
are
being
auctioned
off
and
they're
getting
higher
prices
as
we
go
forward.
It
already
started
a
year
ago,
two
years
ago,
yeah
and
we're
seeing
an
increase
in
that
return.
Yes,.
A
Y
We're
doing
this
ahead
of
time,
so
we
can
get
the
or
the
order
banks
are
starting
to
open
up
okay
and
that's
why
we're
asking
you
to
approve
this,
so
we
can
get
our
orders
in
there's
already
30
types
of
vehicles
that
the
order
banks
already
closed.
They
opened
up
some
closed
within
two
or
three
days,
so.
F
C
C
It
will
be
available
as
soon
as
council
provides
direction,
but
I
also
provided
a
copy
of
the
existing
application.
Just
as
point
of
reference.
The
new
system
will
allow
individuals
to
select
more
than
one
board.
If
they
do
select
a
quasi-judicial
board,
it
would
automatically
require
them
to
submit
a
copy
of
their
voters,
registration
and
driver's
license
as
well.
C
If
they
want
to
apply
for
boards,
they
can
select
more
than
one
the
difference
I
think
in
this
one
is:
it
will
require
individuals
to
submit
a
resume
so
less
questions
but
more
on
resumes,
so
that
council
can
see
their
professional
background
and
expertise
and
then
we
did
add
a
voluntary
demographic
section
which
would
collect
ethnicity,
gender,
the
date
of
birth
would
be
except
for
public
record,
but
the
other
stuff
would
be
available,
and
I
also
included
a
statement
that,
hopefully,
the
individuals
acknowledge
by
submitting
an
application.
C
They
understand
the
responsibilities
of
the
boards
that
they
have
selected,
and
I
did
that
only
because
we
did
have
a
few
applicants
who
did
want
to
serve
on
a
couple
of
quasi-judicial
boards,
but
once
that
they
were,
they
realized
that
they
had
to
submit
a
financial
disclosure
form.
They
were
no
longer
interested.
That
was
also
one
of
the
reasons
I
know
in
a
past
council
meeting.
There
was
a
question
about
why?
C
Don't
we
collect
household
income
data,
as
part
of
that
was
suggested
at
one
point,
and
I
think
that
that
kind
of
information
would
really
there's
a
volunteer
board
they're
not
being
paid.
I
would
not
recommend
that,
but
this
is
information
that
other
municipalities
in
the
area
are
selecting,
but
I
did
add
that
comment
just
to
make
sure
that
people
understood
there
is
a
commitment.
Some
of
it
may
be
monthly.
Most
of
them
are
quarterly.
C
Yes,
I
will
still
provide
you
the
attendance
now.
This
system
does
not
allow
you
to
have
two
applications
so
on
that
one
application
on
one
that
one
question
where
it's
asking
them,
if
you
want
to,
but
if
you're
reapplying
they
can
add
on.
Obviously
to
that.
P
I
always
struggle
with
this
on
the
demographics,
and
I
understand
everybody's
asking
now,
but
you
know
we
asked
the
ethnicity,
ethnicity
and
the
gender,
yet
you
know
we
don't
want
to
be
discriminating
yet
we
discriminate.
I
I
just
never
understand
that.
Just
a
comment.
I
guess
it's
gonna,
you
know
be
something
we're
probably
gonna
have
to
live
with
for
a
while.
C
But
if
count
right,
it's
optional-
we
don't
collect
that
information
now.
So
if
council
doesn't
want
us
to
put
include
this
now
we
don't
have
to
so
that
would
be
something
that
council
can
decide.
Okay,.
A
E
E
I
think
it's
good
to
have
it
on
the
application.
I
think
again
it
is
optional.
I
think
it
shows
that
we're
cognizant
of
you
know
the
value
in
having
diversity
and
and
just
understanding
what
we
have
for
demographics
on
our
advisory
boards
and
are
they?
Is
there
a
correlation
between
our
population,
it's
similar
to
the
business
tax
receipt,
optional,
demographic
information
that
we're
asking
there
as
well?
I
I'm
happy
that
you've
got
a
question
about
if
seeking
reappointment
state
why
you
should
be
reappointed,
I'm
happy
with
that.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
A
A
A
K
Mayor
12.1,
I
am
very
excited
and
very
pleased
to
announce,
is
the
first
of
two
items
for
the
purchase
and
sale
agreement
for
the
bluff
properties.
12.1
is
the
old
city
hall
site.
12.2
is
the
former
harborview
site
when
we
met
last
time.
As
we
indicated
earlier,
the
development
agreement
was
more
or
less
done,
subject
to
scrivener's
errors
and
issues
like
those,
but
we
still
needed
to
negotiate
the
purchase
and
sale
agreements
under
normal
circumstances.
K
We
would
want
to
flip
this
order
and
we
would
probably
negotiate
the
purchase
and
sale
first
or
perhaps
simultaneously
with
the
development
issues,
but
in
this
instance
ms
cole
and
I
decided
early
on
to
reverse
the
order
and
to
do
the
development
agreement
first
and
then
the
purchase
sale
agreement.
The
reason
we
made
that
decision
is
because
the
purchase
and
sale
agreements,
unlike
the
development
agreements,
don't
have
a
statutory
process
for
hearings
in
front
of
cdb
and
things
like
that.
K
K
So
after
the
last
council
meeting
ms
cole
and
I
put
our
heads
together
and
started
working
non-stop,
more
or
less
on
the
purchase
and
sale
issues,
and
so
this
is
the
culmination
in
summary,
and
here
are
kind
of
just
the
core
terms
in
the
purchase
and
sale
agreements
number
one.
We
have,
of
course,
the
price.
K
The
price
is
listed
as
15.4
million
dollars
for
the
old
city
hall
site,
as
well
as
9.3
million
dollars
for
the
former
harborview
site
and
again
these
are
technically
two
separate
items
because
they
are
two
separate
parcels.
That
price
was
derived
as
the
full
appraised
value
at
the
time
that
the
city
issued
its
call
for
development
concepts.
So
that
is
how
we
arrived
at
that
number.
The
relationship
between
the
purchase
and
sale
agreements
and
the
development
agreement
is
such
that
the
development
agreement
is
incorporated
by
reference
into
the
purchase
and
sale
agreements.
K
So
if
you
read
through
these
items,
the
actual
contracts
you'll
see
that
the
development
agreement
is
mentioned
by
reference
and
the
development
agreement,
as
required
by
florida
law,
will
be
recorded
in
the
official
records
of
the
clerk
of
court.
So
all
of
this
is
documented
16
different
ways
from
sunday,
so
everyone
knows
what
the
expectations
are
and
that
it's
very
transparent
for
the
public.
So
all
of
those
terms
in
the
development
agreement
are
also
part
of
the
purchase
and
sale
agreements.
K
If
that
makes
sense,
the
other
key
terms
that
are,
I
would
say,
unique
or
different
in
the
purchase
and
sale
than
in
the
development
agreements,
are
additional
restrictions
on
future
conveyance.
So,
in
the
development
agreement
we
already
have
restrictions
saying
that
they
effectively
cannot
sell
or
transfer
the
property
to
anyone
until
the
project
is
substantially
complete,
then
once
the
project
is
substantially
complete,
the
development
agreement
says
that
they
can
only
sell
or
transfer
if
they
choose
to
do
so
at
all
to
a
qualified
transferee,
and
we
have
some
very
detailed
definitions
over
a
qualified
transferee.
K
The
purchase
and
sale
agreement
incorporates
all
of
those
limitations
and,
in
addition
to
that
includes
a
restriction
saying
that
no
conveyance
can
be
made
to
a
non-profit.
We
included
that
restriction,
because
the
whole
point
of
this
is
to
stimulate
economic
activity,
and
so
why
would
you
want
a
non-profit
to
take
over
these
properties?
So
that's
an
additional
layer
that
is
in
the
purchase
and
sale.
K
The
other
key
terms
are
the
closing
date,
so
we
have
structured
the
agreement
so
that
the
closing
on
the
real
estate,
meaning
the
transfer
of
the
title,
will
not
occur
unless
and
until
the
developers
obtain
all
of
the
approvals
they
need.
In
other
words,
they
need
to
go
through
the
entire
site
plan
process.
They
need
to
spend
the
money
get
that
approved.
K
They
need
to
apply
for
all
of
their
building
permits,
spend
all
of
that
money
get
that
approved
and
then,
once
all
of
that
process
is
ready
to
go
from
the
pre-development
side,
then,
and
only
then
will
we
be
willing
to
hand
over
the
keys
so
to
speak
when
it
comes
to
the
real
estate.
We
have
also
put
time
restrictions
on
them,
so
they
are
required
to
get
all
of
this
done
at
the
very
latest
by
the
end
of
2024.
K
I
know
that
seems
like
a
long
time,
probably
for
a
lot
of
people,
but,
as
ms
cole
pointed
out
previously,
it's
actually
a
pretty
short
amount
of
time,
given
the
complexity
of
this
project
and
given
all
of
the
issues
involved,
so
we've
actually
kept
them
on
a
pretty
tight
leash
to
actually
get
these
things
done,
and
that
is
going
to
be
an
expectation
that
we
expect
to
to
hold
them
to.
K
Finally,
there
are
obligations
on
the
city
side,
most
of
which
I
think
are
pretty
straightforward
and
I'm
fully
supportive
of,
I
would
say
all
of
which
I'm
fully
supportive
of
one
of
which
is
the
fact
that
we
will
provide
the
survey
for
the
property,
not
a
big
deal.
That's
a
relatively
minor
expense,
and
it's
just
as
well.
We
should
have
those
anyway
number
two.
We
will
demolish
the
old
city
hall
site.
That's
something
that
mr
jennings
and
I
had
talked
about
previously.
K
That
just
means
it's
less
time
that
the
developers
have
to
spend
doing,
site
work,
and
so
that
will
help
us
bring
this
project
to
reality
quicker
number:
three:
we
will
do
the
environmental
assessments,
I
think
that's
appropriate,
given
how
long
we
have
owned
these
properties
as
well
as
if
there
is
any
sort
of
environmental
remediation
needed
and
I'm
not
suggesting
that
there
is,
then
we
would
perform
that
work
up
front
again.
K
Number
four
we
do
have
to
provide,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
proof
of
funding
when
it
comes
to
the
public
realm
improvements.
We
don't
have
to
provide
those
today
or
tomorrow
or
even
after
the
referendum,
but
we
do
at
some
point
prior
to
closing
on
the
real
estate
have
to
set
aside
that
money
and
ensure
that
those
improvements
that
we'll
be
making
to
public
property,
specifically
streetscape
improvements
to
osceola
avenue,
our
portion
of
the
pedestrian
bridge
or
walkway,
depending
on
how
that
is
structured.
K
You
know,
as
ms
clayton
has
emphasized
previously
and
as
I
want
to
reiterate
today,
the
main
library
lot
is
not
being
sold
or
conveyed
to
the
developers
in
any
way,
let
alone
the
library
proper
being
sold
or
conveyed
to
the
developers
in
any
way
whatsoever,
but
they
need
access
to
it.
So
that
they
can
actually
design
the
entrance
to
their
to
their
site
plan
so
other
than
that
those
are
pretty
much
the
core
terms
and
we're
looking
forward
to
council
approval
and
hopefully
a
successful
referendum
in
november
and.
A
These
prices,
when
they
were
originally
the
appraisals,
were
done.
This
was
on
highest
and
best
years.
Was
it
not
that.
K
Is
correct-
and
that
was
something
that
was
a
significant
discussion
point
in
the
negotiations
that
appraisal
both
appraisals
were
based
on
the
assumption
that
we
would
do
condos,
however,
based
on
the
guidance
from
council
and
based
on
the
the
priority
from
council
to
have
primary
residents
living
downtown
and
not
wanting
these
to
be
used
as
vacation
homes,
second
homes
or
places
that
otherwise
remain.
K
You
know
empty
potentially
for
half
the
year,
these
are
being
constructed
as
apartments
on
the
old
city
hall
site
rather
than
condos,
and
because
they
are
being
constructed
as
apartments
there's
an
argument
to
be
made
that
the
developers
may
actually
be
overpaying
for
the
properties,
but
we
have
negotiated
that
successfully.
So
I'm
very
pleased
with
that
and.
A
A
K
Absolutely
it
goes
to.
It
goes
to
show
that
I
think
the
city
is
getting
a
very
good
value
on
this
sale,
because
the
developers
are
essentially
paying
the
price
as
if
they
were
building
condominiums,
but
in
fact
they're,
not
they're,
building
really
departments
that
we
want.
So
we
really
get
the
best
of
both
worlds
here,
in
my
opinion,
other
questions.
J
Can
we
can
we
have
a
repeat
of
this
on
thursday,
because
this
referendum
is
so
important?
This
land
is
valued
by
the
citizens
and
there's
a
lot
of
concerns
out
there
and
misinformation.
So
I
would
really
would
love
for
you
to
repeat
that
on
thursday,
go
on
record
to
you
know,
address
those
concerns.
This
is
land
that
they
value
that
they
want
to
use
in
the
future,
and
a
lot
of
the
concerns
can
be
alleviated
and
misinformation
be
corrected
by
you.
A
P
He
did
a
very
good
job
of
describing
it.
So
do
it
exactly
the
way
he
did
today.
J
K
K
Yeah,
so
I
think
that's
actually
something
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
That's
actually
something
good
to
mention
today,
as
well
as
on
thursday.
So
one
of
the
questions
that
I've
been
asked
is
in
terms
of
the
duration
of
the
development
agreement,
its
protections
etc,
and
so
that
development
agreement
lasts
for
30
years.
However,
certain
restrictions
will
actually
survive,
even
the
expiration
of
the
development
agreement.
Specifically,
the
restriction
on
a
conveyance
to
a
non-profit
will
be
permanent
in
nature.
K
That
is
a
deed
restriction
that
survives
the
expiration
of
the
of
the
development
agreement
when
it
comes
to
the
development
agreement
itself
and
the
limitations
on
qualified
transferees,
the
rules
that
there
must
be
a
nationally
recognized
apartment
management
company,
the
rules
that
all
of
the
well,
but
at
least
80
percent
of
the
units
must
be
available
for
rent
to
the
general
public
at
market
rate
and
the
other
20
for
corporate
housing.
At
most.
K
All
of
those
things
will
be
in
place
for
30
years,
at
least
when
it
comes
time
for
the
city
to
look
at
the
sunset
of
that
development
agreement,
meaning
as
the
city
is
looking
at
this
25
to
30
years
from
now.
One
of
the
options
that
the
city
may
want
to
consider
at
that
time
and
is
contemplated
in
the
development
agreement
is
potentially
extending
the
terms
of
the
development
agreement.
We
do
not
have
an
ability
to
force
them
to
do
that.
K
However,
I
would
imagine,
and
at
the
risk
of
speculating
you
know
almost
30
years
into
the
future.
I
would
imagine
that
the
owner
at
the
time,
will
likely
be
amenable
to
that.
Perhaps
in
return
for
compensation
or
payment,
the
city
may
find
that
those
protections
have
proven
valuable
and
have
proven
to
be
wise
protections
and
the
city
may
be
interested
in
either
negotiating
direct
payment
for
extension
of
those
protections
or
the
city
at
that
point
may
be
interested
in
working
out
other
in
kind
reciprocity.
K
Remember
that
in
all
likelihood
we
will
have
a
lot
more
public
parking
downtown
in
the
years
ahead.
Specifically,
as
we
know,
and
as
has
been
discussed
publicly,
we've
been
discussing
with
peace
memorial,
the
acquisition
of
their
parcel,
and
so
we
may
be
able
to
work
out
arrangements
with
the
developers
who
will
find
it
valuable,
undoubtedly
to
have
access
to
that
garage
and
use
it
for
their
purposes.
So
I
can
see
a
lot
of
different
ways.
K
This
will
play
out
25
to
30
years
from
now,
but
it's
hard
to
speculate
that
far
into
the
future
other
than
to
say
that
number
one,
the
restrictions
on
conveys
the
nonprofit
will
survive.
Even
the
expiration
of
the
development
agreement
number
two.
There
will
be
options
based
on
the
whims
of
the
parties
at
that
time
to
extend
the
terms
of
the
development
agreement.
If
there's
a
desire
on
both
sides
to
do
so,.
A
All
right
and
then
any
questions
on
second
readings
or
any
of
the
items
that
have
been
withdrawn,
12.3
through
12.13.
K
This
one
just
one
moment
there
before
you
want
move
on.
It's
one
that
just
wanted
to
comment
on
12.8,
that
this
is
the
second
reading,
specifically
for
the
referendum,
ordinance,
ordinance
and.
O
E
Yeah,
so
I
put
this
on
here
one
more
time
I
just
I
just
want
consensus.
I
looking
back
at
notes.
E
E
That
was
one
thing
caveat
that
he
said
you
must
he
he
operates
with,
and
I
just
I
think
it's
good
governance
to
do
that
and-
and
I
just
you
know,
wanted
to
know
if,
if
you
all
would
be
on
board
with
having
articulated
goals
from
our
city
manager,
it's
a
little
more
difficult
with
our
city
attorney,
but
I
think
you
know
that
was
a
question
I
had
in
my
interviews
with
the
candidates
for
city
manager
and
city
attorney.
E
E
E
E
A
A
It's
hard
to
believe
that
next
week
is
going
to
be
a
year
anyway,
but
I
think
when
we
do
the
evaluations,
I
always
have
goals
for
both
of
them.
In
my
evaluations,
I
always
do
the
full
written
evaluation.
Do
it
private,
privately
with
them,
and
then
we
obviously
have
a
discussion
up
here
on
the
diocese.
E
A
My
priorities
now,
if
we
want
to
have
a
set
of
priorities
that
we
all
agree
upon,
that
may
not
be
quite
as
easy
as
everyone
thinks,
because
I
think
we
do
have
different
priorities.
I've
thought
a
lot
about
something
some
things
that
were
said
at
the
last
meeting
that
I've
contemplated.
While
I
was
out
of
town
councilmember,
albritton
yeah,.
P
P
You
may
not
agree
that
that's
a
priority
of
yours,
but
we
certainly
can
put
it
in
a
written
evaluation,
but
I
think
for
us
to
sit
down
and
hammer
what
and
everybody
be
on
the
same
page.
I
I
think
that'd
be
very
difficult
to
do
for
us,
because
we
all
bring
a
different
perspective
to
the
council
of
what
our
priorities
are.
J
E
I'm
thinking
that
you
know
if
I
were
city
manager
and
I
have
five
council
members
giving
me
five
different
sets
of
priorities.
It's
like
they
have
five
bosses,
and
how
are
you
going
to
make
everyone
happy
and
I
get
that
we
have
different
priorities
or
pet
projects
or
or
you
know,
pockets
of
constituents
that
we
represent,
but
I
would
think
that
we
could
come
together
on
two
or
three
main
ones
that
align
with
what
we
have
in
our
strategic
plan
that
we
could
all
have
as
uniform.
E
It's
just
you
know.
How
do
you
know
you've
been
successful?
If
you
don't
know,
you
know
where
you're
going,
what
what
your
goal
is
and
even
if
the
goals
were
the
objectives
and
goals
were
articulated
by
our
city
manager
and
city
attorney,
and
they
could
give
us
two
or
three
we
could
have
our
own
and
and
go
into
that
evaluation
process
with
those,
but
it
would
be
nice
if
they
brought
something
forward.
It's
like
well,
what's
your
plan?
E
What's
your
plan
for
the
second
year,
what
do
you
see
now
that
you've
got
the
lay
of
the
land?
What
do
you
see
as
some
goals
for
the
second
year
and
it
maybe
it's
just
two
or
three
and
and
just
be
real
public
and
transparent?
With
that?
I
think
it's.
I
think
it's
a
realistic,
you
know
expectation
I
mean
I
would
ask
mr
jennings,
have
you
had
experience
with
with
that?
E
Having
you
know,
goals
either
given
by
the
council
or
you
you
address
what
your
plan
is
for
the
upcoming
year
with
whatever
council
you're
working
with.
G
In
the
previous
position
I
had,
I
did
set
goals
personally
set
goals,
both
internal
in
terms
of
operations
and
then
with
the
for
the
city
and
or
council.
Those
were
goals
that
I
set.
The
council
did
not
set
goals
for
me.
They
either
supported
the
goals
or
they
didn't.
But
frankly,
due
to
the
ongoing
conversations
we
all
have,
I
pretty
much
know
where
each
one
of
you
are,
and
so
I
think
I
try
to
address
as
best
as
I
can,
the
concerns
or
or
goals
that
each
one
of
you
have
for
the
city.
E
G
That's
certainly
up
to
the
body,
but
I
will
set
my
goals
anyway.
I
mean
I
do
it
all
the
time
I
mean
I
do
it
annually
for,
for
instance,
for
city
staff.
We
will
similar
to
you.
We
are
going
to
start
a
strategic
planning
process
on
this
staff
side,
which
I've
done
every
year
that
I've
been
in
this
position
and
and
then
operationally.
We
talk
about
what
we
want
to
accomplish.
G
You
know
faster
time
in
terms
of
getting
permits
through
or
you
name
it
there's
any
number
of
things
where
we
try
to
create
a
more
efficient,
a
more
effective
government.
So
but
honestly,
it's
up
to
all
of
you
to
determine
how
you
want
to
review
mr
margolis
and
I,
at
the
end
of
the
year
at
the
beginning,.
J
G
J
M
Both
men
have
come
in
very
aggressively
making
changes
that
I,
I
think,
are
all
for
the
positive.
AA
I've
been
very
impressed
with
the
work
of
both
gentlemen.
M
It
would
seem
to
be
difficult
for
us
to
say:
hey.
We
want
you
to
recruit
so
many
businesses
to
the
city
as
an
example,
and
if
you
fail
that
well,
then
that's
a
check
against
you,
but
I
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
set
forward
some
some
idea
of
where
we
want
to
go.
A
Well,
I
think
the
strategic
plan
is
ultimately
is
supposed
to
do
that.
This
has
been
the
most
drawn
out.
Well,
I'll,
just
leave
it
at
that,
but
if
we
ever
get
there
someday
again,
it's
I
think
that
gives
you
a
lot
of
guide
posts
of
the
large
strokes
of
what
this
particular
council
will
want.
A
E
Well,
I
would
say
you
know
one
of
mr
jennings
goals
for
the
next
year
would
be.
We
will
complete
the
strategic
planning
process.
It's
a
yes
or
no,
it's
measurable
did
we
do
it
or
not?
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
to
me.
If
anybody
asked
me
my
two
cents,
that
would
be
a
wonderful
goal
for
2023
is
to
get
that
knocked
out
and
do
it.
A
Well,
I
think
that's
on
his
plate
of
things
to
accomplish.
E
Okay,
so
there's
no
consensus
that
we
have.
You
know
one
to
three
goals
that
we
all
address
given
to
us
by
the
city
manager.
A
Certainly,
you
can
bring
forward
your
priorities
and
everybody
can
talk
about
their
individual
priorities
and
we'll
see
if
they
mesh
and
if
so,
what
what
we
want
to
use
as
a
standard
for
them
to
meet
him.
K
Gifts,
yes
mayor.
This
is
something
that
the
city
manager,
and
I
have
been
talking
about.
This
issue
is
a
good
thing,
and
it's
something
that
the
city
manager
and
I
agreed
should
be
brought
forward
for
council's
consideration.
K
Mr
jennings
has
shared
with
me
that
you
know
in
prior
working
environments,
there
have
been
retirement
gifts
that
have
been
given
to
honor,
sometimes
decades
of
service
to
the
city,
and
I
think
that's
a
wonderful
gesture,
especially
nowadays,
where
the
workforce
does
tend
to
be
highly
mobile,
and
nowadays,
when
you
have
someone
who
has
given
a
lifetime
of
service
to
this
city,
I
think
it's
a
great
thing
to
honor
their
service
and
to
give
them
an
appropriate
gift
to
commemorate
to
celebrate
everything
they've
done
for
the
city
and
for
our
residents.
K
However,
we
have
an
unusual
legal
problem
when
it
comes
to
retirement
gifts.
The
florida
law
has
a
statute
that
was
passed
really
during
the
great
recession.
That's
designed
to
prevent
government
from
handing
out
bonuses
to
people,
but
bonus,
isn't
necessarily
the
word
to
use,
because
the
statute
is
designed
in
a
way
that
prohibits
us
from
giving
out
extra
compensation
for
services.
K
Already
rendered
in
the
past,
the
harm
that
the
legislature
was
trying
to
remedy
was
a
situation
where
you
had
certain
influential
or
highly
compensated
executive
employees,
potentially
including
either
city
attorney
or
city
manager,
who
end
up
just
saying
you
know
what,
instead
of
having
a
merit,
increase,
we're
just
going
to
kick
you
some
extra
money
for
things
that
were
in
the
past
to
make
it
retroactive.
K
So
what
I've
suggested
to
the
city
manager,
if
this
is
something
that
he
would
like
to
explore,
and
I
believe
that
it
is,
is
that
I
would
bring
forward
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council
that
we
will
get
an
advisory
opinion
from
the
attorney
general's
office.
I
would
draft
that
advisory
opinion
request
on
behalf
of
the
city
council
and
submit
that
to
ashley
moody's
office.
K
What
we'd
be
asking
for
specifically
is
an
interpretation
of
florida's
bonus
statute
or
an
interpretation
of
florida's
extra
compensation
statute
to
see
if
there's
any
way
that
we
can
actually
offer
retirement
gifts
within
the
confines
or
within
the
parameters
allowed
by
florida
law.
If
general
moody's
office
responds
that
we
can
do
that,
it
would
still
be
up
to
the
city
manager,
as
well
as
city
council,
to
decide
whether
you
want
to
have
a
program
like
that.
K
So
it
would
not
obligate
us
to
do
anything,
but
I
do
believe
that
it
would
be
appropriate
and
wise
for
us
to
seek
guidance
from
the
attorney
general's
office
on
this
issue
prior
to
us
implementing
a
program
like
this,
because
this
is
an
area.
That's
a
pretty
gray
area.
The
florida
law-
and
you
know
candidly-
I
don't
want
to
end
up
with
egg
on
our
face
later,
if
we
say
yes
to
a
program
like
this
and
then
later
on,
we
find
out
that
actually
it
was
not
consistent
with
florida
law.
K
So
my
recommendation
to
city
council
with
council's
permission
would
be
that
I
would
draft
a
request
for
an
advisory
opinion
from
the
ag's
office.
If
council
is
comfortable
with
that,
I'd
be
happy
to
circulate
a
draft
prior
to
sending
it
to
general
moody's
office.
It's
brought
as
a
work
session
item
because
it
does
not
require
a
formal
vote
as
long
as
there's
more
or
less
consensus
among
council
you're
comfortable
with
us
asking
the
question.
K
K
G
Mayor,
I
I
I
did
have
a
few
other
items
that
I
was
kind
of.
Oh,
were
you
coming
back?
I
was
isn't
that
nice
of
you.
G
Thank
you,
sir
speaking
of
the
strategic
plan.
I
think
we
all
recognize
that
the
plan
that
the
process
that
had
been
created,
probably
a
year
plus
ago,
maybe
you
know,
hasn't
worked,
and
so
we,
my
plan,
is
in
cooperation
with
all
of
you
is
to
within
the
next
two
months
is
to
bring
hopefully
to
this
to
a
conclusion.
G
G
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure.
I
say
that
both
to
you,
but
also
publicly.
G
This
is
a
very
important
piece
as
we
as
the
downtown
becomes
more
built
out
and
more
noise
and
sound
and
and
so
that
process
will
include
bringing
in
monitors
to
test
the
level
of
noise
and
all
of
those
kind
of
things
in
the
current
state
and
and
then
working.
A
G
Well,
that's
one
of
the
areas
in
which
the
chief
really
wants
to
tackle
and
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
chief,
but
he
has
spoken
me
extensively
about
looking
at
the
city,
not
as
a
whole.
You
know
having
one
set
of
rules
and
parameters
for
the
city,
but
having
a
more
of
a
specific
look
at
neighborhoods
residential,
the
beach,
the
downtown
different
ways
in
which
we
would
go
about
that
chief.
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
anything
dad.
G
Okay,
I
wanted
to
publicly
thank
joel
castelli
and
dan
mayer,
for
we
have
launched
the
website
refresh.
G
If
any
of
you
had
the
opportunity
to
go
on
and
take
a
look,
but
they
we
have
the
first
150
pages
that
have
been
refreshed
and
I
think
we
have
cut
down
we're
cutting
down,
like
maybe
400
pages
or
something
there
was
a
lot
that
was
added
over
the
years
on
our
website.
So
I
also
just
wanted
to
mention.
I've
been
getting
a
lot
of
positive
feedback
about
our
parks
and
recreation
staff,
specifically
on
the
youth
camps.
G
Lastly,
I
had
wanted
to
mention
this
when
lori
vogel
was
here,
but
lori's
son
was
drafted
by
the
san
francisco
giants,
oh
wow,
in
the
in
the
12th
round
as
a
pitcher,
and
he
is
signed
with
the
giants,
and
he
will
he
will
report
to
spring
training
here
shortly
if
he
hasn't
done
so
already
so
so
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that.
E
I
do
have
one
I
was
hoping
that
we
could
discuss
having
the
council
well
if
we
could
discuss
a
letter
of
support
to
the
tourist
development
council,
the
tdc
in
support
of
allocating
about
a
third
of
a
penny
for
arts
and
the
arts
community.
So
this
is
starting
to
be
talked
about
in
our
area
and
I
sit
on
the
clearwater
arts
alliance
and
I'm
a
non-voting
board.
Member
on
that
and
they're
going
to
make
a
push
in
support
of
that.
And
so
I
said
that
I
would
mention
it
to
us.
A
A
There's
a
study
going
on
right
now
for
the
overall
arts,
and
I
know
that
saint
pete
wants
to
allocate
the
scent.
It's
been
vacillating
between
a
third
and
a
half.
A
A
The
majority
of
museums
are
down
in
st
petersburg.
St
petersburg
has
an
insatiable
appetite
for
tdc
money.
They
do
not
generate
very
much
bed
techs
very
little
as
a
matter
of
fact,
because
saint
pete
and
st
p
peach
are
two
different
communities
and
you
know:
there's
talk
about
a
new
stadium.
There's
talk
about
the
woodson.
A
A
So
I
am
not
yet
to
the
point
where
I'm
ready
to
vote
for
specific
dollars
for
arts,
especially
if
the
definition
isn't
broadened
out,
because
clearwater
is
the
800
pound
gorilla
when
it
comes
to
bed
tax-
and
you
know
there
are
some
projects
that
we're
going
to
have
forthcoming-
that
I
want
to
make
sure
get
funded
before
we
start
siphoning
off
a
lot
of
other
money.
So
it's
a
it's
a
much
bigger
topic
than
just
the
arts,
because
on
the
surface
I
would
say
we
want
to
support
the
arts.
A
E
But
that
money's
for
us
as
well
I
mean
we
could.
Maybe
I
can
do
some
more.
You
know
research
and
we
can
have
it
on
a
future
discussion,
especially
you
know
in
I
can
report
back
to
my
clearwater
arts
alliance,
but
it's
just
my
understanding
is
that
pool
of
money
is
available
for
everyone
in
the
county.
So.
A
It
has
not
been
determined
how
it
will
be
allocated
and
what
all
the
different
criteria
are
going
to
be,
and
if
it's
primarily
going
to
museums
of
which
we
have
none,
then
you
know
we
could
be.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
being
the
peanut
butter
is
being
spread
across
the
entire
county,
okay,
and
that
it
is
not
just
being
sucked
up
by
one
municipality
and.
A
Call
me
parochial
you're,
damn
right,
I
am
because
I'm
tired
of
all
the
money
going
to
certain
places
that
don't
generate
it.
I
think
there's
a
real
issue
with
looking
in
the
mirror,
sometimes
and
being
reasonable
about
the
amount
of
money
so.
A
J
Concerned
as
well,
you
know
as
an
artist,
it
looks.
It
just
seems
to
me,
like
all
the
possible
all
the
opportunities
are
insane
in
a
matter
of
four
or
five
blocks.
There's
the
mfa.
There's
a
daddy
there's
the
studio,
620,
there's
a
florida
crafts
there
and
every
and
it's
this
huge
monster
that
needs
to
be
fed,
and
so,
as
an
artist
we're.
You
know,
I
always
feel
like
all
the
opportunities
are
over
there,
so
I
would
love
funding
for
the
arts.
You
know
I
would
be
the
number
one
proponent,
but
I
would
like
to.
J
I
would
like
to
have
some
assurance
that
we
know
where
it's
being
assigned,
because
just
because
it's
available
to
the
whole
county,
it
doesn't
mean
that
that's
where
it's
going
to
end
up
and
I
think
clearwater's
starving
for
arts
opportunities,
and
so
I
would
like
to
have
some
assurance
that
that
is
going
to
be
that
we
we're
going
to
know
where
it's
being
allocated
because
st
p
just
gobbles
it
all.
P
To
give
money
to
give
students
free
rides
on
psta
buses
using
a
u-pass,
they
don't
have
a
u-pass,
they
can
get
something
from
their
school,
but
this
is
for
extracurricular
activities.
Kids
that
stay
after
school,
which
I
thought
was
a
really
good
plan,
so
we're
implementing
that
this
year
again
thursday
night
I'll
go
ahead
and
talk
about
this
because
it's
going
to
become
available
this
year
and
and
across
the
spectrum,
anybody
can
use
it
with
a
u-pass
and
this
you
know
that
goes
to
school.
So
I
think
that's
going
to
be
very
helpful.