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A
Well,
welcome
everyone.
I
am
norman
hartman,
the
chair
for
the
mayor's
commission
on
unity,
diversity
and
prosperity.
We
are
glad
to
have
you
here
with
us
this
evening
for
a
much
anticipated
panel
discussion.
We
have
some
very
competent,
panelists
and
moderator.
That's
going
to
be
the
guiding
us
through
our
discussion
on
performance
gaps
in
our
very
own
muskogee
county
school
district.
A
So
I'd
like
to
give
a
little
context
for
this
conversation.
A
This
is
partly
in
connection
with
the
equal
justice
initiative
out
of
montgomery
alabama,
the
community
remembrance
project.
Some
of
you
may
be
familiar
with
ryan
stevenson.
There
was
a
movie
done
about
him
just
mercy.
He
is
a
civil
rights
attorney
and
he
has
a
done
a
lot
of
great
work
as
it
pertains
to
black
history.
Even
now,
there
is
a
monument
for
for
justice
and
peace
in
alabama
that
pays
homage
to
victims
that
were
lynched
all
over
the
country,
and
so
we
have
reclaimed
our
history
as
it
pertains
to
lynching
and
racial
terrorism.
A
So
you
will
hear
a
series
of
conversations.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
these
conversations
began
in
march
as
we
went
dive
into
our
history
as
pertains
to
several
lynchings
that
took
place
in
columbus.
How
do
we
move
forward
with
that?
So
this
conversation
today
in
education
is
how
we
move
forward
in
addressing
minority
groups,
those
performance
gaps,
and
we
make
sure
that
everybody
is
receiving
the
equity
and
attention
that
is
needed
so
that
we
raise
the
bar
not
just
in
one
particular
area
but
in
all
areas
of
our
community.
A
She
has
served
in
the
role
for
the
past
four
years
and
focuses
on
the
remains
of
all
and
her
focus
remains
on
all
students.
She
does
this
through
a
lens
of
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion.
Her
previous
roles
include
that
of
district
level
supervisor
principal
assistant,
principal
and
classroom
teacher
she's,
worn
a
lot
of
hats
over
the
over
her
career.
A
Dr
vickers
ward
has
served
as
an
adjunct,
professor,
instructing
master
level
students
to
become
school
level,
administrators
and
bachelor
level
students
desiring
to
become
classroom
teachers
with
over
30
years
of
experience
in
both
policy
and
procedure.
She
is
always
intentional
in
diversity,
education
and
inclusion,
a
consummate
servant
leader,
and
so
dr
angela
vegas
ward.
Thank
you
for
being
here
with
us
this
evening.
We
look
forward
to
hearing
your
insights
as
we
move
forward
into
our
program.
A
Next
in
the
introduction.
Stranger
to
none,
dr
david
lewis,
our
superintendent
dr
lewis,
began
his
career
with
polk
county
public
schools
in
florida
in
1979.
A
As
a
director
of
bands
at
fort
meade
middle
senior
high
school,
he
became
assistant
principal
at
fort
meade,
middle
and
senior
schools,
and
also
served
as
assistant
principal
at
frost
proof,
middle
senior,
high
school.
He
served
as
principal
at
frost
proof,
middle
senior,
high
school
for
10
years,
while
at
frost
proof
middle
senior
high
school.
A
He
was
appointed
senior
appointed
senior
director
for
of
secondary
education
in
2009,
effective
september,
1st
2010,
dr
lewis,
was
appointed
as
associate
superintendent
for
learning
of
the
polk
county
school
district,
where
he
supervised
the
curriculum
and
learning
needs
of
95
000
students
and
6
000
teachers
during
his
tenure.
In
this
leadership
role,
the
district
achieved
seven
consecutive
years
of
improved
graduation
rates
was
recognized
as
college
boards
large
district
of
the
year
for
the
greatest
increase
in
both
student
participation
and
performance
on
advanced
placement
assessments,
particularly
that
of
underrepresented
populations.
A
Other
leadership
positions
held
by
dr
david
lewis
includes
president
of
the
division
of
instructional
leaders
of
for
the
florida
association
of
school
administrators
and
president
of
the
florida
school
music
association
on
july.
23
2013,
dr
david
lewis,
was
appointed
to
the
position
of
superintendent
of
education
for
the
muskogee
county
school
district
in
columbus
brings
brings
him
to
us
which
serves
31
000
students
by
5
000
employees,
dr
lewis,
oversees
an
annual
budget
in
excess
of
300
million
dollars,
of
which
40
million
are
federal,
grant
funds.
A
Since
assuming
the
role
of
superintendent
of
education
of
muskogee
county,
he
has
improved
on
all
performance
metrics,
including
georgia's
college
and
career
readiness,
performance
index,
s-a-t,
a-c-t,
advanced
placement
and
graduation
rates,
all
of
which
reach
an
all-time
reach.
All-Time
high
marks.
A
So
much
more
that
we
could
say
about
dr
david
lewis,
including
he
has
served
on
state
schools,
superintendent,
advisory
committee,
governor
brian
kemp
superintendent,
advisory
committee,
as
well
as
the
college
board
superintendent
advisory
committee.
So
welcome
dr
david
lewis.
We
look
forward
from
hearing
much
more
from
you
this
evening
and
last
but
not
least,
we
want
to
introduce
our
moderator
and
we
are
looking
forward
to
diving
into
this
discussion
prior
to
founding.
This
is
dr
dale
gilbergos
prior
to
founding
virgos.
A
Consulting
dr
burgos
was
a
senior
diversity
and
inclusion
officer
at
tsys
total
systems,
a
leading
global
solutions,
provider
of
payments
technology
throughout
her
25
plus
year
career
with
thesis
she
served
in
various
leadership
positions
and
capacities.
Dr
burgles
also
taught
as
an
adjunct,
professor
at
columbus
technical
college
and
served
on
his
business
advisory
board
of
curriculum.
A
Dr
burgos
currently
serves
on
the
advisory
boards
of
several
organizations,
including
girls,
inc
of
columbus
and
phenix
city
area
and
the
fennec
city
area,
where
she
is
also
the
acting
interim
executive
director
winnette,
which
is
women's
network
in
electronics
transactions
where
she
leads
the
dii
task
force
uncf
for
the
columbus
area
and
hope
harbor
for
battered
women.
She
is
also
a
past
executive
board,
member
for
the
greater
columbus
chamber
or
chapter
rather
of
partners
in
education
for
the
region.
School
system,
passionate
about
increasing
diversity
in
stem
education.
A
Dr
berger
diverts
her
devotes
her
time
to
help
build
a
pipeline
of
diverse
talent
for
the
technology
industry.
She
served
on
the
thesis
it
education
or
I.t
education
council
to
foster
the
awareness
of
technology
within
the
chattahoochee
valley,
region
of
public
schools.
Dr
burgos
received
her
bachelor's
bachelor's
degree
in
business
administration
from
columbus
state
university,
her
masters
in
human
resources,
management
from
troy,
state
university
and
her
doctorate
in
organizational
theory
and
leadership
from
university
of
phoenix
she's,
an
active
member
of
alpha
capital,
alpha
sorority
incorporated
just
a
few
accomplishments
and
we'll
get
into
our
program.
A
She
was
named
diversity,
leader
of
the
year
2020
by
technology,
associate
association
of
georgia,
30
years
of
abrasion
diversity
and
cultures
from
personal
experience,
more
than
capable
of
leading
us
in
our
discussion
tonight.
She
also
received
diversity,
certification
from
yale
university
executive
program
in
2018,
facilitated,
courageous
conversations
on
racial
equality
and
social
justice,
with
such
notable
celebrities
such
as
roland
martin,
melody
hobson
eddie,
glaw
jr
and
dr
fama,
dr
fema
bryant
davis
host
with
a
conversation
with
legendary
diversity,
educator,
jane
elliott
and
so
much
more
so
guys.
A
B
C
Be
pleased
to,
I
would
just
like
to
share
that
this
mission
and
vision
was
created
with
focus
groups
from
throughout
the
community.
So
this
is
not
just
something
thought
of
a
think
tank
in
the
district
office,
but
it's
something
that
actually
had
constituents
from
throughout
the
community
helped
to
develop.
But
our
mission
is
to
equip
and
inspire
all
students
and
all
means
all
to
reach
their
unlimited
potential
and
our
vision
is
to
become
a
beacon
of
educational
excellence
where
all
are
known,
valued
and
inspired.
B
Thank
you
so
much
well.
Would
you
like
to
also
now
share
with
the
audience
what
are
some
of
the
challenges
that
are
being
faced
and
that
you're
asking
the
parents
to
be
aware
of,
as
we
start
this
discussion
today,.
C
Well,
I
think
we
all
recognize
the
insidious
nature
of
poverty
and
how
that
impacts
our
entire
community,
most
notably
in
our
world,
how
it
affects
children
even
before
they're
born.
As
we
know,
children
of
poverty
often
times
are
born
with
lower
birth
rates,
which
has
an
adverse
impact
on
their
brain
development,
even
in
eur
in
utero.
C
So
it's
critically
important
that
mothers
who
are
pregnant
and
expecting
obviously
see
their
their
doctors
and
make
sure
they're
taking
good
care
of
themselves
and
their
babies
before
they're
born
and
then
after
they're
born.
We
just
want
really
want
to
encourage
our
parents
and
our
community.
C
C
Just
starting
with
talking
about
love
and
nurturing
grouping
things
mathematically,
any
parent
can
do
that,
taking
their
children
to
the
grocery
store
and
saying
well,
how
many
of
these
are
there
and
why
don't
you
go
ahead
and
help
me
get
three
oranges
to
put
in
our
basket
or
things
of
that
nature.
Just
so
important,
easy
things
that
any
parent
can
do,
and
I
would
encourage
all
of
our
parents
throughout
the
community
to
look
at
this
program.
It's
a
research-based
program
by
dr
ron,
ferguson
who's,
a
harvard
professor.
C
C
But
I
just
find
that
that
being
so
important
and-
and
we
can
tell
automatically
when
the
kids
start-
that
very
first
school
of
day
each
on
the
first
day
of
school
for
each
chill
each
of
our
children.
We
can
tell
how
important
it
is
in
the
home
oftentimes
by
the
way
they
come
in,
and
we
just
see
kids
really
excited
engaged
to
be
there
and
others
that
may
not
be
quite
prepared.
So
those
are
some
really
basic,
simple
things
that
people
can
do
to
help
us
prepare
our
children
for
success
in
school
and
beyond.
C
B
You
thank
you
so
much
for
sharing
those
and
I'll
turn
to
you
now,
dr
ward,
vickers
ward,
and
as
he
has
just
shared
with
some
of
the
basic
things
that
parents
can
do
in
the
home.
I
would
like
for
you
to
touch
on
what
are
some
of
the
mental
and
physical
aspects
that
are
so
necessary
for
success.
That
complements
those
things
he
just
shared.
B
D
D
How
do
we
do
that
through
social
emotional
learning?
We
have
something
for
every
stage
for
elementary.
We
have
kindness
from
middle
school
kindness
for
high
school
kindness
in
the
state
of
georgia.
There's
one
school
district,
that's
certified
as
a
kindness
school
district,
and
that
happens
to
be
muskogee
county
school
district
and
that's
because
of
everyone
galvanizing
together
to
ensure
that
we're
instilling
that.
D
D
C
And
if
I
may
just
add
to
that,
we
know
how
important
literacy
is
reading
is
absolutely
the
most
critical
keystone
skill
that
students
need
to
have
to
be
successful
and
one
of
the
things
I
would
encourage
parents
again
just
read
your
children
at
home
even
before
they
start
school,
but
particularly
when
they
come
to
school,
read
to
them.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
long
chapters
and
that
kind
of
thing
just
read
to
them.
C
Read
the
newspaper
read
a
sports
book,
whatever
it
is
read
to
them,
so
they
can
see
that
that's
a
habit
of
mind,
that's
being
developed
that
is
so
critically
important
and,
along
those
same
lines,
we've
adopted
curriculum.
That
really
is
very
effective.
When
I
first
got
here,
we
did
not
have
an
adopted
reading
curriculum
throughout
the
district.
C
C
So
that
is
so
very
important
as
far
as
making
sure
that
reading
is
established
in
the
home
and,
of
course,
in
school-
and
I
will
say
this
one
of
the
first
things
we
need
to
remember
about
school-
is
it
really
is
the
child's
first
job?
They
learn
a
lot
about
their
work
life
in
the
future
by
how
they
come
to
school
and
behave
at
school,
for
example,
just
showing
up
on
time
we
teach
reading
the
research
says.
C
Readings
should
be
taught
early
in
the
morning
for
children,
so
we
teach
reading
across
our
district
starting
first
thing
in
the
morning.
If
children
are
late
coming
to
school,
for
whatever
reason,
they're
missing
the
most
important,
essential
skill
of
the
day
and
of
their
future,
so
being
on
being
at
school
on
time
every
day
or
as
many
days
as
they
possibly
can,
especially
in
light
of
the
past
16
months,
we've
dealt
with
this
upcoming
year
is
going
to
be
absolutely
essential
for
children
to
be
taking
advantage
of
every
moment
of
instruction
that
we
can
offer.
D
B
The
parents,
the
teachers
and
administration
and
even
the
students
themselves
to
consider
to
strengthen
that
partnership,
because
you
also
may
mention
as
well
dr
vickers
ward.
That
is
not
just
the
administration
themselves.
It
takes
the
partnership,
it
takes
a
wee
effort,
and
so,
if
you
had
any
other
comments
to
make
or
any
additional
information
as
far
as
strengthening
that
partnership,
what
would
it
be.
C
Well
again,
one
of
the
concerns
that
I
see
and
oftentimes
parents
think
that,
as
their
children
get
older,
they
don't
need
their
parents.
As
often-
and
I
use
the
analogy,
if
you
go
to
an
elementary
pta
meeting,
you
have
to
go
half
hour
to
an
hour
ahead
of
time
to
get
a
parking
place
go
to
middle
school.
C
Nothing
we
don't
need
in
the
elementary
level.
Certainly
we
do
but
middle
school
and
high
school.
They
need
our
parents
and
those
who
support
them
more
than
ever,
and
so
I
would
just
encourage
parents
to
be
there.
I
know
children
don't
like
to
be
asked.
How
was
your
day
at
school
because
you're
always
gonna
get
the
rolling
eyes
nothing.
C
We
didn't
do
anything,
you
know,
but
it
makes
a
connection
with
children
and
they
start
noting
right
then,
that
it's
important
to
to
you
as
the
parent,
the
guardian,
whoever
it
might
be
the
grandparent
it's
important
to
you
and
it
just
really
is
so
important
because
it's
like
we,
the
old
adage
in
business,
what
gets
measured,
gets
done
same
thing
here
in
the
home.
What
you
ask
about
what
you
care
about?
C
D
That
becomes
the
most
challenging
time.
We
start
to
lose
them
in
discipline.
We
start
to
lose
them
with
attendance.
We
need
for
our
schools,
our
parents,
our
community,
to
invest
in
them
and
to
believe
in
every
child.
Everyone,
everyone
and
particularly
all
means
all
means
all
that
is
an
area
when
we
look
at
an
area
that
can
improve.
D
We
need
mentors
we're
struggling
right
now
to
get
mentors
and
our
community
is
reflective
of
successful
people,
but
we're
only
as
successful
as
our
children
are
bear
our
financial
stability.
We
need
to
teach
finance
to
our
children
and
understanding
of
that
we
need
to
also
teach
them
to
elaborate
when
we're
having
those
conversations
when
we're
taking
them
to
the
grocery
stores,
we
need
to
help
them
to
understand
what
yes
means
and
what
no
means
that
is
an
example
of
tough
love.
D
D
C
Excuses-
and
one
thing
you
will
see
coming
in
the
near
future-
I've
tasked
dr
vickers
with
in
my
10-year
plan
that
some
of
you
may
have
seen
it's
online.
If
you
haven't
it's
about
a
32-page
document
that
I
formulated
back
when
I
first
arrived
and
took
120
days
to
assess
our
community
and
I
feel
really
good
about
the
document
even
to
this
day.
C
But
one
of
the
things
I've
tasked
dr
dr
vickers
ward
on
is
to
develop
some
parent
advocacy,
centers,
basically
resource
centers
out
in
our
community,
because
I
recognize
that
not
all
parents
have
the
ability
to
come
to
the
school
for
every
meeting.
C
So
we
want
to
meet
you
halfway,
so
we're
trying
to
find
vacant
store
fronts
or
maybe
church
basements,
whatever
it
might
be,
where
we
might
be
able
to
establish
these
resource,
centers
and
man
them,
maybe
with
retired
educators
or
willing
to
donate
or
give
a
few
hours
of
their
time
a
week
to
just
be
there
for
parents
and
help
them
navigate
the
various
systems.
I
say
that
because
some
of
you
may
know
that
I'm
the
first
college
graduate
on
either
side
of
my
family.
C
The
only
question
in
our
house
was:
where
are
you
going
to
college,
and
that
was
understood
by
my
brother
and
myself-
that
that
was
an
expectation
from
early
on
now,
not
everyone
needs
to
go
or
should
go
to
college,
but
everyone
to
be
successful
is
going
to
need
some
kind
of
post-secondary
education
or
training
to
be
successful,
and
I
say
all
that
to
say
that
we've
got
to
really
make
sure
that
we
get
kids
on
a
pathway
early
on
that
we
start
talking
about
not
just
getting
your
high
school
diploma.
That's
important!
C
But
that's
just
the
start.
It's
not
the
end.
That's
not
that's!
Just
a
benchmark
along
the
way
and
we've
got
to
bridge
them
to
their
futures
through
whatever
education
or
training
that
might
be
at
columbus
tech
at
columbus
state
into
the
military,
whatever
it
might
be,
to
keep
moving
forward
and
give
children
this
vision
of
something
beyond
where
they
may
be
right
now
and
what
they
want
to
do
and
mine
for
their
gifts.
They
all
have
gifts.
C
B
It
does
thank
you
both
so
much
for
that
input
on
ways
to
help
make
this
partnership
a
success.
B
You
said
something
just
a
minute
ago
that
I
want
to
go
back
to,
and
particularly
in
this
day
and
age,
as
the
current
state
of
the
nation
has
been
transformed,
of
course,
over
the
past
18
months,
and
we
learned
that
representation
matters,
and
so
can
you
take
a
moment
to
share
a
little
bit
with
the
audience
about
the
administration
of
moscone,
county
school
district
and
the
diversity,
because
when
we
talk
about
diversity,
inclusion
and
equity,
those
are
factors
that
also
are
very
important
as
well.
So.
D
D
We
have
white
black
females,
males
different
generations,
but
we
have
the
millenniums
as
well,
so
there's
different
age
groups,
but
deeper
than
that.
When
you
look
at
the
work,
that's
been
done.
The
intentional
work
that's
been
done,
that's
embedded
it
throughout
because
we
want
to
ensure
that
at
the
school
level
that
they're
also
being
intentional
about
making
sure
that
representation
matters.
D
What
that
looks,
like
is
academics.
Everyone
is
allowed
to
achieve
in
all
of
the
subject
contents,
and
that
is
those
advanced
level
courses
they
need
to
be
there.
That's
in
our
stem
courses
need
to
be
there.
So
I
think
honestly,
my
opinion
is
that
we
still
have
to
roll
up
our
sleeves
because
there's
more
that
needs
to
be
done
and
as
long
as
there
is
more
to
be
done,
we
have
to
continue
to
be
very
intentional
about
that,
and
so,
when
we
look
at
equity,
what
does
that
look?
D
Many
various
partnerships
trying
to
help
going
into
the
schools
partnering
with
the
schools
and
this
summer
was
a
prime
example
of
that
and
dr
lewis
can
speak
to
the
summer
learning
how
we
came
together
as
a
school
district
as
a
community
to
ensure
that
our
children
after
the
pandemic
still
was
able
to
gain
more.
But
still
there
is
more
to
be
done.
Absolutely.
C
So
about
the
summer
program,
yes,
back
in
january,
we
knew
that
our
children
had
many
of
them
had
not
been
in
school.
For
several
months,
going
back
to
march
13th
of
the
prior
year,
some
have
been
in
school,
some
others
had
not
been
and
we
tried
to
make
sure
that
everybody
had
opportunity
to
connect
through
their
devices
that,
fortunately,
we
had
the
foresight.
C
So
we
feel
like
we
had
a
pretty
good,
not
perfect
by
any
stretch,
but
certainly
we
were
far
ahead
of
the
game
in
comparison.
Others
now,
in
terms
of
summer
learning
in
january,
knowing
that
we
were
going
to
be
coming
out
of
this
pandemic
like
children
all
over,
not
just
the
georgia,
not
just
across
the
country,
but
all
over
the
world.
Everybody
was
locked
down
and
I
just
think
about.
C
We've
talked
about
children
starting
to
read,
I
think
about
those
who
are
just
beginning
to
know
how
to
read
back
in
march
of
2020
when
this
whole
thing
broke
loose
and
all
across
the
world.
We
have
a
bubble
of
kids
going
through
that
didn't
get
to
finish
that
experience,
so
we
talked
about
learning
loss.
I
I'd
like
to
talk
about
learning
that
never
occurred.
C
C
It
had
to
be
fun
and
engaging
to
get
kids
wanting
to
come
back
to
school
and
enjoy
what
they're
doing,
but
it
had
to
focus
also
on
two
academic
areas,
primarily
literacy
and
reading,
as
well
as
math,
and
we
did
that
by
developing
blocks
of
reading
first
thing
in
the
morning
with
math
later
part
of
the
day,
but
in
between,
we
asked
our
community
partners
to
step
forward
and
bring
some
enrichment
activities
and
we
had
arts
opportunities.
We
had
sculptures
being
designed
by
children.
C
We
had
science
activities,
botanical
garden
came
into
the
schools,
just
numerous
different
types
of
activities
that
maybe
the
children
wouldn't
have
experienced.
Otherwise,
and
it
was,
it
has
been
absolutely
I've
been
receiving
emails
for
the
last
several
weeks
from
parents
and
teachers
alike,
saying
this
was
the
most
fun
and
engaging
and
enriching
summer
program
we've
ever
done
and
we
hope
they'll
be
able
to
keep
going
forward
in
the
future.
And
I'm
making
that
pledge
to
you
with
the
board
support
we're
going
to
continue
to
do
that.
C
One
of
the
things
I
notice-
and
this
is
not
a
reflection
on
anyone
at
all,
because
I
just
believe
if
you
know
better
you're
going
to
do
better
and
during
that
120
day
visit
throughout
our
community,
I
noticed
very
pronounced
what
we
all
know
is
there
the
north-south
divide.
Otherwise
I
kind
of
coined
it
the
macon-dixon
line,
and
it
was
very
apparent
north-south.
In
my
former
district,
we
had
the
same
divide,
which
happened
to
be
east-west
and
they're.
C
For,
for
example,
when
I
came
here,
I
noticed
that
some
schools
had
art
or
music
for
pe,
but
not
all
three,
and
I
think
every
school
and
our
board
supported
that
when
I
brought
the
plan
to
them
every
school,
every
child
deserves
to
have
access
to
art,
music
and
pe,
not
one
or
the
other,
but
all
three,
because
I
don't
want
to
be
the
superintendent
guilty
of
missing
the
next
picasso,
the
next
louis
armstrong,
the
next
whatever
it
might
be.
C
I
want
them
all
to
have
that
access
and,
of
course,
in
fact,
that's
of
course
why
the
raymond
color
school,
the
arts
is
in
existence
today
as
well.
In
addition
to
that,
there
were
some
schools
that
had
a
lot
of
academic
offerings,
advanced
academic
offerings
and
others
that
did
not.
We
now
have
I'm
proud
to
say
every
school
we
have
an
adopted
curriculum
in
elementary
middle
and
high
school,
and
they
all
have
the
same
resources
and
in
fact,
some
cases.
The
schools
who
need
more,
which
is
the
whole
definition
of
equity.
B
C
If
they
need
more,
they
receive
more
in
terms
of
whether
it's
smaller
class
sizes,
whether
it's
more
coaching,
support
more
administrative
support
whatever
it
might
be.
We're
trying
to
do
that
with
the
with
the
budget
that
we
do
have,
but
going
back
to
the
advanced
offerings.
We
have
high
school
courses
now
offered
in
every
one
of
our
middle
school
courses
for
students
who
want
to
continue
to
accelerate
and
move
themselves
forward
faster
and
have
the
academic
ability
and
the
drive
to
do
so.
C
They
can
take
algebra
in
eighth
grade
normally
considered
a
high
school
course
same
thing
with
the
physical
science,
so
we've
offered
those
in
every
single
school.
Every
single
advanced
placement
course
that
we
can
offer
is
available
in
all
of
our
high
schools
if
they
have
the
teacher
that
want
to
do
that,
as
well
as
dual
enrollment,
which
is
another
great
opportunity
for
children,
especially
for
those
who
are
maybe
going
for
college
for
the
first
time
in
their
families.
C
As
I
did-
and
I
didn't
have
dual
enrollment
available
to
me,
but
the
children
here
can
take
get
this.
I
don't
know
if,
where
you
get
a
two
for
a
bogo,
buy
one
get
one
free,
you
get
to
go
to
get
a
high
school
course
and
also
get
college
credit
if
you
take
it
from
columbus
tech
or
columbus
state
or
whatever
post-secondary
institution
we
have
at
that
particular
school.
C
No
child
says
gee
mom
dad.
I
want
to
have
more
math,
I'm
very
few
of
them
say
that,
but
if
we
keep
pushing
them
into
that
and
saying
you're
good
at
this,
let's
mine
that
that
talent,
that
you
have
robotics
five
years
ago,
we
started
robotics
teams
and
we
only
had
five
teams
in
the
entire
district.
We
now
have
a
robotics
team
at
every
school
and
some
schools
have
two
56
robotics
programs.
C
D
That's
preparing
them
for
life,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
they're
here
and
then
our
families,
also
how
you
can
help
is
to
ensure
that
you're
making
the
time
to
talk
to
them,
making
the
time
to
show
them
the
life
skills
and
the
soft
skills
that
are
needed
to
help
them
be
successful
not
only
in
the
workplace.
But
in
the
community
and
how
to
give
back
by
helping
every
person
paying
it
forward.
C
Eight
years
ago,
the
graduation
rate
in
muscular
county
was
72
72.8,
we're
now
at
over
89,
but
what's
unique
about.
That
is
because
we
look
at
this.
We
drill
down.
We
monitor
this.
There
is
no
statistical
difference
in
our
graduation
rate
between
our
white
students,
our
black
students,
our
hispanic
students
and
male
and
female.
C
By
that
I
mean
it's
within
about
three
percent
of
one
another
that
is
phenomenal.
That's
the
kind
of
statistical
data
we've
got
to
continue
to
drill
down
on
make
available,
not
only
to
herald
the
great
things
we
are
doing,
but
also
say:
if
not
everything
is
looking
like
that.
We've
got
work
to
your
point.
We
got
more
work
to
do,
but
we
cannot
do
it
alone.
We
got
to
have
everyone's
support,
that's
right
and
I
don't
expect
parents
to
be
teachers.
Although
I
still
say
teachers,
parents
are
the
first
and
best
teacher.
C
They
may
not
be
the
mathematic
teacher
or
whatever,
but
just
assuming
these
little
things
we're
talking
about
talking
about
the
importance
of
education.
Talking
about
the
importance
of
getting
to
bed
talking
about
some
good
nutrition,
if
at
all
possible,
and
that's
a
piece
of
equity
that
we've
got
to
talk
about
more
because
it's
all
cyclical
nutritional
value,
education,
opportunities
for
work
and
in
the
community,
all
of
it
goes
together.
C
It's
like
a
big
carousel
and
it's
kind
of
hard
to
determine
where
you
get
on
or
off
of
that
carousel,
but
we've
got
to
all
be
committed
to
making
sure
children
have
access
to
good
quality
meals
to
having
opportunities
for
good,
healthy
recreational
activities.
One
of
the
concerns,
no
matter
what
the
demographic
right
now
is,
we've
talked
to
our
pediatricians.
They
are
very
concerned
about
the
physical
health
of
our
children.
After
being
cooped
up
and
inside
for
the
last
17
months.
C
They
say
they
are
seeing
more
cases
of
obesity,
so
we've
got
to
get
them
out
and
get
them
moving.
Sports
are
very
good
for
the
kids,
whatever
it
is,
it
gets
them
up
and
moving
that's
important,
but
all
of
those
things
go
into
helping
a
child,
be
ready
for
school
and
continue
to
be
successful
through
school.
D
Who's,
a
personal
trainer.
He
preaches
that
all
the
time
we
can
walk.
Those
are
simple
things
that
we
can
do
with
our
children.
Take
them
for
a
walk,
bicycle
bicycle
nature,
eating
healthy,
making
sure
that
we
are
modeling
what
we're
expecting
from
them
by
doing
that,
you're
saving
their
life
by
doing
that,
you're
saving
your
own
life
to
make
sure
that
you're
modeling.
What
needs
to
be
expected
to
not
only
help
your
children,
but
it
also
helps
you
connecting
making
that
connection
for
longevity
and.
C
C
When
I
came
here,
I
just
marveled
at
the
public-private
partnerships
that
are
so
famous
here,
but
it's
true.
It's
not
just
a
a
tagline
is
absolutely
true
and
essential.
We
have
knowing
that
some
of
our
children
have
some
physical
and
health
issues.
One
of
the
things
we've
worked
with
some
of
our
partners
to
put
some
health
centers
into
some
of
our
schools,
where
there's
the
greatest
need
for
those,
whether
it's
fox
elementary
dorothy
height.
C
Those
are
just
a
couple
of
them,
but
we're
going
to
continue
to
try
and
expand
those
with
the
help
of
our
partners,
who
continue
to
be
just
amazing
in
my
eyes-
and
I
just
am
so
thankful-
and
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
shout
out.
B
Well,
you
both
have
just
been
phenomenal
in
sharing
information
on
how
to
make
and
strengthen
this
partnership
and
what
is
necessary
for
our
children
in
our
community
to
be
successful,
addressing
the
diversity
addressing
the
inclusivity
and
the
equity
and
the
practices
that
have
been
put
in
place
to
ensure
that
that
happens.
I
thank
you
both
for
your
information
and
your
time
and
energy
and
sharing
that
I
will
ask
now.
Are
there
any
closing
comments
that
you
would
like
to
share
with
our
audience
and
I'll
start
with
you,
dr
vickers
ward,.
D
D
C
Well
and
from
my
angle,
and
just
I'll
just
repeat
some
of
the
things
I've
said
already:
we
need
you
as
parents,
we
want
the
best
for
your
children
continue
to
support
our
teachers.
Teaching
is
a
very
difficult
job
and
gets
tougher
all
the
time
for
various
reasons.
More
mandates
come
from
the
federal
and
state
level
just
about
it
seems
like
every
year
and
well-intentioned,
but
still
it
puts
more
demands
on
our
educators
than
we
ever
could
imagine.
C
In
years
past,
I
just
looked
over
my
42-year
career
and
think
about
how
much
we've
added
to
the
plate
of
educators
over
the
last
42
years.
It's
just
absolutely
amazing,
but
I
do
want
to
ask
you
this
we're.
We
know
we're
not
where
we
want
to
be
and
we're
not
where
we're
going
to
be.
The
best
is
yet
to
come.
We'd
like
for
you
to
come
with
us.
Please
do.
B
B
B
A
Perfect
all
right,
so
we
just
have
a
bit
of
a
delay
here,
no
worries.
I
was
just
thanking
each
of
you
for
navigating
through
this
part
of
the
discussion
to
redeem
the
time
I
wanted
to
take
us
right
into
the
q
a
portion
at
this
time.
I
just
have
one
question
to
share
if
you're
listening
and
by
the
way
my
name
is
norman
hardman,
if
you
have
seen
me
share
this
at
any
time.
A
A
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
picked
up
on-
and
I
just
want
to
hone
in
on
one
area
because
really
what
I'm
listening
there
are
many
areas
and
directions
that
I
could
go
into,
but
I'd
like
us
to
walk
away
from
this
conversation
with
something
that
we
can
latch
onto
so,
dr
lewis,
you
talked
about
that
parent
advocacy
center
or
parent
advocacy
centers,
wherein
we
can
help
parents
in
particular
communities,
maybe
at
underutilized
buildings,
whether
they
be
churches,
businesses
or
what
have
you
but
utilizing
those
areas
as
centers.
So
I
have
two
questions.
A
One
and
I'll
ask
the
the
other
second,
but
the
first
question
would
be:
what
does
that
look
like?
Have
you
all
started
having
conversations
with
pastors
or
with
people
to
actually
see
if
they
have
space
available
to
see
you
know,
would
it
be
by
neighborhood
or
would
it
be
matching
a
neighborhood
or
a
church
or
community
with
specific
schools?
Have
you
had
any
conversations
to
talk
about
or
to
discover
what
that
may
look
like?
That
would
be
my
first
question
there.
Yes,.
D
Sure
we
started
already,
and
it
was
pre-coveted
so
pre-covid
we
had
different
parent
nights
and
those
were
located
at
the
libraries
three
different
libraries,
the
museum,
we're
in
conversation.
Now
we
have
a
committee,
a
very
diverse
committee,
where
we're
actually
planning
to
go
to
and
visit
and
have
our
next
meeting
at
a
church.
A
church
has
offered
their
facility
as
a
possible
site,
and
so
we're
going
to
meet
there
to
see
if
we
can
have
that
space.
D
What
that
looks
like
is
parents
coming
in
and
they're
provided
classes
on
mindfulness
they're
provided
information
regarding
social,
emotional
learning,
provided
information
on
wellness
tutoring,
so
it's
a
plethora
and
it's
what
they're
needing
what
they're
wanting?
We
are
also
having
conversations
regarding
a
parent
resource
bus.
D
So
we
would
like
to
have
that
bus
mobile,
where
it
can
go
from
one
community
to
the
next
community,
then
also
one
of
the
conversations
that
helped
with
one
of
our
directors
was
actually
taking
that
bus
and
being
able
to
park
it
at
different
games,
so
that
parents
they
are
already
there.
They
can
come
and
they
can
visit
and
see
the
various
resources
that
are
available
so
again.
C
And
I
would
like
to
say
what
I
envision
also
is,
and
this
is
why
it'd
be
important
to
have
retired
educators
who
know
how
to
navigate
the
system
and
can
also
help
parents
understand
that
if
their
children
want
to
go
to
school,
how
what
is
a
fafsa
form?
What
is
it,
what
does
it
take
to
complete
that
if
they're
athletes,
the
ncaa
forms
those
are
all
pretty
daunting-
forms
if
you're
not
used
to
filling
those
government
forms
out
so
people
who
know
that
and
have
knowledge
of
that
and
can
help
navigate
that
with
parents?
C
That's,
I
think,
another
really
valuable
service
that
I
think
this
this
would
provide.
So
I
think
if
we
can
get
more
of
our
retired
education,
we
have
so
many
talented,
wonderful
retired
educators
that
want
to
offer
their
services
and
if
they
can
just
give
us
a
couple
hours
a
night
on
during
the
week
or
on
saturday
morning,
something
like
that
whenever
we
find
out
is
the
most
convenient
and
most
available
times
for
the
parents,
we
would
love
to
tap
into
those
resources
and
let
them
continue
to
use
their
expertise
into
their
retirement
years.
D
I
wanted
to
share
that
budgeting
and
helping
with
understanding
the
financial
literacy
of
what
it
takes
to
make
sure
that
they
have
everything
they
need
life
insurance.
You
know,
just
a
wide
variety
of
services
will
be
available
for
our
parents.
I
did
have
one
parent
stop
me,
and
it
was
here
in
the
parking
lot,
maybe
just
about
a
year
ago,
and
that
parent
wanted
to
learn
to
read
so
that
they
could
help
their
child
learn
to
read,
and
so
we
would
also
have
some
services
available
for
that.
D
C
We'd
like
to
hear
those
too,
the
one
thing
I'll
say
is:
we
can
do
almost
anything.
We
just
can't
do
everything.
So
if
we
can
just
get
some
really
concentrated,
focused
areas
to
start
with
and
then
grow
out
from
there,
but
I
think
the
sky's
the
limit
and
if
any
community
can
do
it,
it's
columbus.
That's
right!
That's
right!.
A
A
So
good
feedback,
like
you,
said,
sky's
the
limit,
but
we
definitely
have
to
start
somewhere
to
build
the
program,
so
this
narrative
of
community-based
programs.
This
is
something
that
I'm
kind
of
a
buzz
that
I'm
hearing
now
between
different
organizations.
A
So
this
is
probably
a
great
time
to
be
doing
things
like
this,
because
there's
opportunity
for
partnerships-
and
so
that's
kind
of
the
second
part
of
my
question-
is
about
partnerships
number
one.
So
one
suggestion
would
be
not
to
count
non-profits
and
strong
volunteers
out,
but
maybe
there
are
opportunities
for
it
to
kind
of
correlate
or
or
kind
of
coincide
with
one
another
in
terms
of
the
efforts
that
are
being
done
even
by
zip
code
right.
A
So
if
you've
got
people
that
are
doing
things
in
the
neighborhood
already,
maybe
they
can
partner
with
what
you're
doing
so,
like
you
said,
if
people
have
ideas,
I
think
that's
great,
but
I
would
also
invite
people
to
this
to
the
table
because
there
might
be
opportunities
for
that,
and
so
I
would
just
ask
this
question
people
hearing
this,
who
are
interested
and
who
do
want
to
volunteer.
Maybe
they
have
a
school
in
mind.
Maybe
they
have
a
particular
area
in
mind.
C
I
would
also
say,
though,
because
columbus
has
so
many
people
and
entities
that
want
to
volunteer
one
of
the
things
I
did
early
on.
It
was
really
eye
eye
opening.
For
me,
I
want
to
talk
about
literacy
and
I
invited
people
who
had
an
interest
in
literacy
to
come
to
our
library
here
on
macon
road,
the
chattahoochee
library,
42
different
entities
showed
up
and.
C
Did
not
know
that
the
other
existed
or
what
their
mission
was
or
what
their
focus
was
or
whatever.
So
it's
important
to
realize
it's
not
about
just
being
busy
it's
about
focusing
the
effort
and
getting
one
central
focus
and
moving
in
one
direction,
everybody
rolling
in
the
same
direction.
Otherwise
I
use
the
analogy.
I
think
john
wooden
famous
basketball
coach,
who
said
if
you
have
one
person,
dipping
the
ore
in
the
water
the
wrong
way.
All
you
do
is
go
around
the
circle
same
thing.
C
We've
got
a
row
in
the
same
direction
and
everyone's
going
to
be
on
board.
So
I
think
it's
important
to
identify
the
players,
get
people
to
agree
what
we're
going
to
focus
on
as
the
main
areas
we're
going
to
focus
on
and
then
develop
strategies
around
that
and
be
willing
to
let
something
go
not
become
so
possessive
of
my
idea
or
my
way
of
doing
things
that
that
turf,
guarding,
which
is
unintentional,
but
it
can
become
something
that's
problematic
when
you're
trying
to
get
something
really
done
as
a
as
a
community.
D
And
I
agree
wholeheartedly
the
more
we
reach
out
and
connect,
because,
if
we're
all
striving
to
do
the
same
thing,
but
when
we
join
together,
the
forces
are
greater.
So
in
having
a
conversation
with
the
gentleman
from
united
way.
Just
this
week,
we
were
focusing
on
some
of
the
same
things
regarding
parent
resource
centers,
and
so
it's
the
same
work
but
coming
together
to
make
sure
that
we're
connected
and
so
we're
connecting
now
to
make
sure
that
we
can
move
together
to
make
things
better
for
our
community.
A
A
That's
something
I
would
recommend,
but
one
of
the
things
like
you
said,
even
with
programs,
one
program
not
knowing
about
the
next
but
like
in
the
efforts
that
you're
doing
please
share
them,
or
you
know
task
us
or
task
others
with
sharing
this,
because
I
really
think
the
more
people
hear
it
the
more
we
see
it,
the
more
we'll
be
inclined
to
to
participate.
A
So
again,
this
is
not
the
this
is
not
the
end
or
the
finish
line.
This
is
the
beginning,
we're
just
starting
out
of
the
blocks
so
looking
forward
to
more
conversations
behind
the
scenes,
but
there
are
also
more
conversations
that
are
coming
up
and
I'll
take
a
moment
to
talk
about,
but
thank
you
all
again
so
much
for
availing
yourselves
your
knowledge
and
your
information
as
to
what's
happening
in
the
school
district.
I
know
so
many
people
are
curious
as
to
what's
going
on
or
those
who
already
know
what's
going
on.
A
C
I
just
want
to
thank
you.
If
I
may.
I
would
like
to
thank
you
and
the
mayor's
commission
for
making
this
platform
available
for
us
to
be
able
to
get
out
and
share
what
we're
doing
in
the
school
district.
We
have
our
own
channels
of
communicating,
but
every
opportunity
we
have.
We
do
something
like
this
gets
it
out
to
a
different
audience,
that's
critically
important
and
lets.
Everyone
know
that
we
are
not
this
entity
that
nobody
is
welcome
at.
We
want
everyone
to
feel
that
they
can
be
part
of.
C
We
are
schools
are
microcosms
of
the
society.
Whatever
is
happening
out
there
in
our
community
is
happening
in
schools,
and
I've
always
find
it
amazing
that
people
think
they're
shocked
about
something
that
happened
in
school
and
I'm
thinking.
Why
would
you
be?
It
happened
out
in
that
neighborhood
or
it
happened
up
in
this
place
or
whatever
it's
going
to
come
into
the
schools
and
that's
just
the
nature
of
who
we
are,
because
we
are
part
of
the
community
and
there
we.
C
It
was
mentioned
that
we
in
the
schools
reflect
the
community
and
and
they
do
as
and
vice
versa,
and
I
also
want
to
thank
our
moderator.
Dr
burgos,
we've
had
a
a
good
friendship
over
the
years
and
she
is
truly
someone
who's
committed
to
diversity,
equity,
but
also
to
education
in
every
form,
and
I
just
so
am
so
appreciative
of
you.
Taking.
A
Okay
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much.
You
all
have
done
a
wonderful
job,
just
a
few
announcements
here
before
we
end
our
time
here
together.
So
again,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
a
conversation
series,
so
the
next
conversation
we'll
have
will
be
august
26th.
So
we'll
try
to
keep
these
on
thursday
evenings
as
best
as
possible,
and
this
will
be
about
bridging
the
gap,
the
trust
gap
between
law
enforcement
and
the
community
so
we'll
have
law
enforcement
will
have
our
police
chief,
we'll
have
our
sheriff
with
us.
A
For
that
conversation,
so
please
check
social,
social
media.
Please
check
with
your
networks.
For
that
conversation
coming
up.
All
of
this
is
building
towards
actions
that
we
need
to
take
in
the
community
one
step
at
a
time
so
how
to
get
in
contact
with
me.
If
you
want
to
be
a
part
of
this,
maybe
you've
heard
some
things
that
you
absolutely
want
to
provide
feedback
on
and
as
a
community
as
a
part
of
the
community.
We
need
that
feedback
again,
I'm
norman
hartman.
A
You
can
contact
me
at
my
email
address,
my
first
name,
norman
n-o-r-m-a-n-e,
dot,
hardman
h-a-r-d-m-a-n
gmail.com,
so
reach
reach
out
to
me
and
post
those
questions
or
say
hey.
I
want
to
get
involved
again.
This
is
in
connection
with
the
equal
justice
initiative
project
and
the
community
remembrance
project
so
that
we
recognize
our
our
history
around
lynching,
lynchings
and
racial
terrorism,
so
we'll
dive
into
even
these
discussions
as
we
move
forward
so
again,
thank
you
so
much
to
our
extended
panelists,
dr
david
lewis,
dr
angela
vickers
ward,
and
especially
our
moderator,
dr
gail
burgos.