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From YouTube: Ken Bleakly TAD Presentation October 27, 2015
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B
Where
we
are
in
the
process.
Just
give
you
an
update
is
we
are
in
the
process
of
actually
preparing
the
redevelopment
plan.
We
hope
to
have
a
draft
plan
submitted
to
the
city
within
about
ten
days,
and
what
I'm
going
to
do
just
briefly
tonight
is
take
you
through.
What's
the
idea
behind
this
plan
and
certainly
answer
any
questions
that
you
have,
as
you
know,
tax
allocation
districts
or
something
the
state
has
permitted
since
1985
and
the
voters
here
in
Columbus
approved
a
year
ago,
the
consideration
of
tax
allocation
districts
and
basically
the
concepts.
B
A
pretty
simple
one
has
a
lot
of
little
details,
but
it's
fairly
simple
idea:
you
establish
an
area,
you
freeze
the
tax
base
in
that
area.
All
the
taxes
collected
for
the
county
and
schools
continue
to
go
to
those
jurisdictions,
but
any
incremental
value.
That's
created
any
new
value.
It
goes
into
a
special
fund
that
can
be
used
to
reinvest
back
into
those
areas
and
it
does
not
in
only
impacts
ad
valorem.
Taxes
doesn't
affect
personal
property
or
East
vos
funds
store
in
that
period.
B
Tad's
have
been
used
in
our
state
pre
actively
since
1999.
Probably
the
big
exam
points
to
is
on
the
left
there,
Atlantic
Station.
If
you
look
at
that
upper
picture,
the
decks
that
you
see
basically
were
funded
by
the
tax
allocation
district
for
Atlantic
Station
and
when
those
decks
were
in
place
about
11,000
spaces.
That,
basically,
was
the
infrastructure
needed
to
trigger
the
development
above
and
a
few
many
of
you
been
there.
B
You
know
it's
a
very
active
development
that
has
residential
retail
components
and
office
component
on
the
upper
right
is
another
example
of
how
ads
have
been
used.
The
Old
Fourth
Ward
Park
in
the
city
of
Atlanta,
which
is
next
to
the
O,
a
city
hall
east,
a
major
park
facility.
Basically,
a
water
retention
facility
was
created
along
the
Atlanta
BeltLine
and
that
was
funded
in
part
using
tax
allocation
district
funds,
and
it's
become
one
of
the
major
gathering
places
along
the
Beltline.
B
As
somebody
has
said,
one
of
the
crown
jewels
of
the
Beltline
itself
and
the
world
of
coca-cola,
which
is
downtown
and
adjacent
to
Centennial
Park,
also
received
some
tad
funding
support
to
create
the
new
world
of
coke
a
couple
years
ago.
So
those
are
just
some
examples,
probably
one
that
I
always
like
to
highlight
as
east
point.
You
could
see
in
that
picture
in
2002,
there's
a
property
right
near
the
Atlanta
Airport
right
on
285
in
camp
Creek
Parkway,
and
the
comet
comment
was
no
one
had
crossed
that
property.
B
Since
that
time,
there's
been
over
a
million
and
a
half
square
feet
of
retail,
about
2,000
residential
units
and
about
four
million
square
feet
of
business
park
and
industrial
space
created
all
as
a
result
of
the
tad
basically
doing
the
site,
preparation
work
and
putting
a
forty,
eight
million
dollar
sewer
line
through
the
area,
basically
opening
the
area
to
development.
Once
those
infrastructure
pieces
were
in
place,
then
the
economics
the
project
worked
and
they
had
interest
from
Duke
Realty
and
from
North
American
properties
and
several
home
builders
apartment
developers
in
that
area.
B
If
you
look
at
values
in
that
area,
it
was
four
million
dollars
when
the
tab
was
created,
which
is
the
blue
line
and
if
that
grew
at
four
percent
a
year
over
the
net
last
15
years
today
would
be
worth
about.
Seven
million
dollars
that's
about
a
1.75
times,
growth
that
would
just
be
kind
of
the
normal
growth
in
the
area,
but
with
the
dad
the
assessed
value,
which
is
that
Arne's
line
grew
from
four
million
dollars
to
eighty
nine
million
dollars
in
that
12
year
period.
B
So
today,
values
in
that
area
are
22
times
higher
than
they
were
when
they
started
the
TAT
process,
so
I
think
it's
a
great
example
kind
of
shows
the
power
of
how
this
incentive
can
work
here
in
Columbus,
the
city's
digest
has
been
growing
at
at
about
a
2
percent,
clip
a
little
less
than
2
percent
over
the
last
five
years,
and
so
that
is
great
because
we
certainly
had
some.
The
recession
occurred
during
that
period
and
had
an
impact
on
everybody's
tax
digest,
but
it's
been
kind
of
growing
modestly
during
that
period.
B
What
we're
trying
to
do
with
this
tad
is
to
accelerate
that
pace
of
growth.
One
of
the
questions
we've
had
is
does
in
the
area
have
to
be
blighted
to
qualify
for
a
tad.
You
you,
if
you're,
going
to
set
one
up
in
reality,
that's
only
one
of
three
definitions
that
the
state
requires.
One
is
that
the
area,
if
it
is
blighted
or
distressed
that
clearly
qualifies
as
a
potential
tat
area,
but
the
other
two
are
what
are
called
deteriorating
or
under
invested
areas,
and
the
third
is
of
the
area
that
lacks
adequate
infrastructure.
B
So
if
you
have
an
area
of
the
city
that
has
either
of
those
three
criteria,
it
can
be
eligible
for
at
at
and
I
would
say
today,
the
most
common
two
that
we
see
are
deteriorating
or
under
invested
areas
and
areas
that
lack
adequate
infrastructure
to
allow
for
development.
Those
have
been
the
most
common
in
the
recent
Tad's.
B
We're
here
to
talk
tonight
about
I,
think
a
really
exciting
proposal
which
were
calling
the
REIT
of
the
river
district
area,
which
is
to
create
a
redevelopment
plan
that
would
include
three
tad
properties
and
it
would
basically
include
on
the
south
side,
the
sixth
Avenue
and
Liberty
District
zone
in
the
middle
of
the
Uptown
area
and
on
the
north
side.
Second
Avenue
in
City
Village.
All
three
of
these
Tad's
would
be
in
one
large
redevelopment
area
which
has
about
850
acres
of
property
in
those
areas.
B
B
Western
boundary
is
third
Avenue
and
Veterans
Parkway
in
the
eastern
boundary
is
the
railroad
line
and
and
10th
Avenue.
That
areas
got
about
275
acres
about
20%
of
the
land
in
there
as
a
tax-exempt,
it's
owned
by
public
entities,
and
it
has
a
taxable
value
today
of
26
million
dollars.
It
represents
about
six
tenths
of
one
percent
of
the
city's
tax
digest
and
that's
important
I'll
I'll
explain
as
we
as
we
go
through
this.
The
second
tab
would
be
the
Uptown
Ted.
B
It
would
be
about
a
hundred
ninety
five
acres,
the
area
you
see
outlined
in
orange
on
the
map,
basically
from
the
river
across
to
third
Avenue
or
Veterans
Parkway,
and
then
eight
and
sixth
Street
on
the
south
and
fourteenth
Street
on
the
north.
It
has
a
current
taxable
value
about
forty
eight
million
dollars.
It
also
has
about
twenty
percent
of
all
the
properties
are
exempt,
because
they're
Church
properties
are
governmental
entities
that
are
in
the
area
and
it
represents
about
one
just
a
hair
over
one
percent
of
the
city's
total
tax
digest.
B
You
know
one
of
the
things
so
we've
heard
about
uptown
is
well.
Uptown
has
already
got
a
lot
of
momentum.
Is
there
really
a
need
to
have
a
tad
in
the
Uptown
area,
and
I
could
show
you
just
this
map?
This
is
kind
of
a
very
preliminary
look
at
this
point,
but
those
areas
in
green
we've
already
identified
as
underutilized
or
underdeveloped
areas
that
are
in
Uptown.
B
So
there's
about
25
acres
of
property
in
Uptown
that
looks
to
us
could
use
the
tad
doesn't
mean
they
all
would
use
it,
but
it
certainly
would
be
a
vehicle
to
improve
that
area
and
sort
of
sustain
the
momentum
that
uptown
is
starting
to
get.
The
third
area
would
be
the
second
Avenue
City
Village
area,
which
is
basically
the
area
north
of
Uptown
along
the
river
edge,
and
you
still
got
there.
Okay
and
that
area
is
bet.
This
would
be
the
biggest
of
the
three
ted's
it's
about
350
acres.
There
we
go
350.
B
Has
a
fair
market
started
as
a
taxable
of
a
about
30
million
dollars,
and
it
represents
about
7.7
percent
of
the
city's
tax.
Just
a
little
less
than
three
quarters
of
a
percent
of
the
tax
digest.
Its
northern
Maui
would
be
Manchester
expressway,
the
western
boundaries,
the
river
southern
boundaries,
14th
Street
and
eastern
boundaries,
either
3rd
Avenue
or
Veterans
Parkway.
So
again,
the
goal
is
to
combine
all
three
of
those
areas
into
a
Tad's.
Now
we
talked
about
that
percentage.
B
If
you
add
the
three
proposed
heads
together,
they
represent
2.4
percent
of
the
city's
tax
digest.
So
if
I
take
those
three
Tad's
and
collectively
the
state
law
limits
the
city
and
county
having
no
more
than
10%
of
your
digest
and
all
Tad's
collectively,
so
you
would
still
have
7.6
percent
left
margin
to
do
additional
tats
in
other
locations
around
the
city.
If
you
deemed
that
you
want
to
do
those
so
relatively
given
how
big
this
area
is.
That's
a
pretty
modest
percentage
around
the
state.
There's
only
one
city
Atlanta
is
the
only
city.
B
That's
reached
the
10%
limit.
Most,
the
cities
are
in
the
5
6
7
%
range,
but
Atlanta
is
the
only
one
again
that
has
gone
to
full
10%.
When
we
look
at
the
3
tats
together,
it's
a
pretty
amazing
plan.
That's
been
proposed
when
you
add
the
potential
development
and
all
three
tats
together,
it's
just
short
of
a
half
billion
dollars
of
potential
projects
that
could
be
developing
in
those
three
areas
over
say
the
next
five
to
ten
year
period.
Roughly
that's
about
1112
percent
of
your
total
tax
digest.
B
We've
been
working
with
each
of
the
groups
in
the
three
areas
to
try
to
identify
what
kinds
of
projects
they
have
either
in
the
development
pipeline
or
in
their
master
plans
and
in
the
Liberty
District
sixth
Avenue
area.
There's
a
number
of
projects
that
are
listed
there.
Collectively
it's
about
500
units
of
residential
15
thousand
feet
of
office,
seventy
thousand
feet
of
hotel
and
about
150
hotel
rooms.
So
we
use
those
plan
projects
to
estimate
what
the
potential
value
could
be.
B
In
the
Uptown
area,
we
had
a
number
of
projects
that
were
identified,
woman's
rivers,
landing
the
Raymond
Road
development,
a
new
convention
hotel
and
actually
several
other
Hotel
properties
combined,
almost
400
units
of
housing,
50
thousand
feet
of
office
about
a
hundred
thousand
feet
of
new
retail
and
about
600
hotel
rooms.
Collectively,
that's
about
170
million
of
investment.
B
There
were
additional
investment
that
would
go
on
in
the
Uptown
area
and
that
would
throw
off
about
24
million
of
Tad's
potential
and
then
the
newest
plan
is
in
the
city,
Village
area,
working
with
the
folks
who've
been
doing
the
master
plan
in
that
area.
They
identified
a
number
of
projects
that
they're
considering
one
is
a
phase
two
of
the
tesis
project,
the
redevelopment
of
City
Mills,
the
Bradley
circle,
village
project
and
Johnson
Mill
added
together.
B
Those
are
about
500
residential
units,
a
little
over
600
thousand
feet
of
office
and
about
85,000
feet
of
retail
altogether.
That
would
have
an
estimated
value
of
about
190
million
dollars.
It
would
support
about
20
and
Tad
proceeds.
So
again,
those
are
all
part
of
that
500
million.
So
in
summary,
if
the
council's
decision
was
to
approve
the
three
tats
for
the
river
district,
we
estimate
the
potential
induced
investment
that
would
occur,
it'd
be
just
short
of
a
half
billion
dollars.
B
That
would
add
about
a
hundred
and
ninety
million
of
tax
digest
to
the
city
and
would
support
about
sixty
million
dollars
in
potential
Tad's
funding.
If
you
decided
to
provide
that
funding,
if
you
look
at
it
from
a
private
investment
tad
perspective,
that
means
for
every
dollar
of
Tad's
that
the
city
would
commit.
There
would
be
eight
dollars
of
private
investment
committed
to
the
various
projects
over
that
time
period.
B
B
Once
that's
been
accomplished,
we
then
would
establish
the
district
and
then-
and
that's
done
through
the
State
Department
of
Revenue.
Basically,
they
certify
the
tax
base
of
the
district
also
want
to
mention.
There's
a
second
Tad's
area
that
we
are
looking
at
around
southeast
Columbus
in
the
Fort
Benning
area.
We're
not
ready
to
bring
that
forward,
but
I
would
say
you're
getting
a
lot
of
interest
and
activity
a
year
in
about
a
year
from
the
approval
of
this,
which
I
would
be
very
encouraged,
based
on
all
the
activity
that
we're
seeing
on
the
tad
front.
A
Mayor
and
council
I
want
to
thank
mr.
Blakely
for
coming
tonight
to
share
with
you
what
he
has
been
working
on
with
some
community
organizations
and
community
people
we'd
like
to
email
you,
his
PowerPoint.
We
don't
have
a
copy
tonight,
but
we'd
like
to
email
it
to
you
and
then
we
would
like
to
ask
mr.
A
Blakely
and
some
of
the
community
to
people
he's
been
working
with
to
make
themselves
available
to
answer
questions
that
you
may
have
over
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
we'd
like
to
bring
back
to
you
on
a
first
reading,
which
would
be
considered
a
public
hearing.
Excuse
me
in
November
the
second
Tuesday
in
November,
a
first
reading
that
would
ask
you
to
have
a
public
hearing
hear
from
the
community
and
others
on
these
three
redevelopment
districts
or
tax
allocation
districts
and
then
a
second
reading.
A
The
first
business
meeting
followed
thereafter
but
we'd
like
to
email
it
to
you
and
then
let
you
send
questions
ask
questions.
Ask
that
mr.
Blakely
and
others
make
themselves
available
to
meet
with
you,
one-on-one
or,
however,
you'd
like
to
meet
to
answer
any
questions,
but
we'd
like
to
bring
it
back
to
your
first
read
and
the
second
Tuesday
of
November,
and
so
with
that
he
can.
D
D
We
have
a
couple
and
and
also
I,
think
it
would
be
good
if
mr.
Blakely
doesn't
mind
if
you
could
include
a
number
where
the
counselors
can
reach
them
and
an
email
address.
Since
this
is
our
first
time
we'll
be
asked
to
do
this
I
think
counselors
should
be
able
to
contact
you
directly.
I
know
you've
been
involved
in
this
for
a
long
time,
but
they
I
think.
Sometimes
you
just
want
to
have
a
personal
conversation
with
somebody
about
some
basic
questions.
D
E
It's
possible
as
a
referral
I
would
like
for
us
to
go
ahead
and
put
this
also
on
our
website,
so
people
listening
and
today
from
the
public
that
feel
it
might
affect
them,
be
able
to
put
in
comments
or
send
comments,
have
an
email
address
where
comments
can
be
sent
a
phone
number
that
they
can
meet
with
mr.
Kent
to
discuss
what
concerns
they
might
have
this
way
is
there
are
questions
that
we
can't
answer?
The
public
has
an
option
to
contact
kin
and
let
him
explain
it
a
little
bit
more
detailed,
we'll.
A
E
My
reason
for
saying
that
is
because,
in
all
three
areas,
there's
development
going
on
or
wish
list
and
ideas
of
things
that
should
happen.
So
some
of
those
individuals
have
had
input
or
had
some
thoughts
or
have
property.
There
can
get
a
better
understanding
of
what's
going
on
so
at
the
first
reading,
they
don't
feel
like
they
were
left
out
of
the
process.
To
me,
it's
just
outlining
an
area
doesn't
say:
what's
going
to
happen
there,
it's
just
outlining
an
area
that
can
be
part
of
the
tad.
E
It's
not
saying
we're
gonna
build
this
that
in
this
and
in
that
community.
It's
not
saying
that
it's
just
saying
from
this
area
to
this
area
here
in
this
area,
to
this
area,
it's
the
tax
allocation,
just
like
we
designed
Midland
Midland,
said
there
from
here
to
here
same
way
as
uptime
from
here
to
here,
and
then
everything
else
involved
in
it.
D
F
Want
to
start
off
by
saying
that
when
we
first
started
talking
about
Tad's
I
was
firmly
in
favor
of
doing
this,
and
I
still
am
I
am
somewhat
concerned
at
what
is
happening
at
this
point,
since
this
is
the
first.
As
the
mayor
said,
this
is
the
first
time
we've
been
talking
about
tags
as
a
council,
and
we
have
little
or
no
information
from
anyone
about.
F
What's
going
on
here,
I,
don't
know
who,
if
you
put,
if
you
look
at
your
PowerPoint
presentation,
somebody
and
I
don't
know
who
determined
the
boundaries
of
the
tax
I
don't
know.
Who
did
that
I?
Don't
know
why
that
was
done.
I,
don't
know
how
that
was
done.
We've
not
had
any
conversation
about
that.
Nothing
I
know
that
when
we
were
when
we
were
looking
at
putting
the
tad
on
the
ballot-
and
we
voted
on
that
mr.
Blakely
was
very
helpful
to
us.
F
I
I
do
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
councilor
Woodson
said
I
have
a
question
about.
She
said
that
in
what
you
have
shown,
there's
nothing
that
says
this
is
what
we're
going
to
build.
Yeah.
You
said
that
one
of
these
I
think
it
was
the
Uptown
and
since
I
don't
have
a
copy
of
your
PowerPoint
I
can't
look
back
to
figure
it
out,
but
one
of
the
things
that
uptown
was
a
650
hotel
rooms.
F
Well,
that's
pretty
specific
as
to
what
somebody's
gonna
build
or
wants
to
build
in
in
Uptown
I'm,
just
really
quite
frankly,
mr.
city
manager
and
mayor
very
disappointed
that
we
have
not
had
any
information
on
this
and
all
of
a
sudden
in
two
weeks.
You
want
us
to
vote
on
this
I'm
real
concerned
about
that
and
I
want
to
say
again:
I
am
in
favor
of
Tad's
I
think
they
work
I
think
they
do
a
good
job.
F
But,
quite
frankly,
when
we
were
talking
about
Tad's
and
what
was
going
on
the
ballot,
the
Liberty
District
was
a
district
that
we
talked
about
quite
often
that
that
would
make
a
good
tad
and
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
that
and-
and
that
was
that
was
one
of
the
area's.
The
the
Bibb
City
area
was
another
that
when
we
were
talking
about
it,
that
was
one
of
the
places
that
we
were
talking
about.
F
We
never
talked
about
uptown,
you
know
and
I
I'm,
not
saying
that
uptown
is
not
eligible
for
Ted
and
should
not
be
considered
for
a
tab,
but,
quite
frankly,
I
have
no
idea
where
enough
ten
you're
talking
about
you
showed
us
a
map
with
some
green
places
on
there.
But
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
know
where
that
is
I
mean
I.
F
Time
is
not
enough
study
time,
particularly
when
we
have
nothing
at
this
point
and
I
will
end
by
saying
I
am
in
favor
of
Tad's
I
want
you
to
I,
don't
want
that
to
be
lost
in
this
conversation,
I
am
in
favor
of
Tad's
and
I
think
that
they
will
work.
I
think
they
will
be
good
for
the
city
I'm,
just
not
there.
Yet
pretty.
D
Sure
let
me
respond
first
I'm
a
councillor
Thomas
says
she
was
disappointed
in
the
city
manager
myself
for
springing
this
on
council
and
that's
not
really
the
way
it
works.
What
has
happened
is
that
the
stakeholders
have
gotten
together
and
hired
mr.
Blakely,
which
we
appreciate
them
getting
together
on
their
own
I,
don't
know,
but
certainly
Richard
Bishop
can
speak
to
the
deal,
but
what
little
I
know
of
it
is
that
they
got
together
with
some
other
stakeholders.
They
felt
were
in
close
proximity
and
had
shared
interests
and
I.
D
D
This
process
was
going
on
to
my
knowledge,
with
no
real
sense
of
urgency
until
such
time
as
I
think
the
stakeholders
realized
that,
if
they're
not
approved
by
December
31,
then
they
must
wait
until
2017
and
that's
a
decision
for
council
certainly,
but
they
see
an
opportunity
to
miss
12
months
of
potential
projects
and
that's
something
to
city
for
City
Dawei,
so
I'll.
Let
them
speak
for
themselves,
but
when
they
came
and
asked
to
be
on
the
agenda
tonight
for
an
update
to
council.
D
What
was
conveyed
to
me
was
that
they
wanted
to
have
this
considered
before
December
31,
because
the
law
states
that,
if
the
tad
boundaries,
no
projects
with
the
town
boundaries
are
not
set
by
December
30.
One
thing:
you
must
wait
till
December
31
of
the
next
year
and
so
I
think
that
there's
been
some
issue
with
the
stakeholders
wanting
to
have
the
boundaries
approved
and
they
can
speak
for
themselves.
I'm
not
here,
to
carry
their
water.
Did
you
want
to
respond
to
that
and
and
then
you
know,
have
Richard
speak
to
it.
G
We
engaged
historic,
Columbus
and
Justin
and
all
those
folks
that
have
been
involved
in
city
village.
From
the
beginning,
we
included
councillor
Woodson
in
the
process
with
with
her
district
in
that
area.
That's
that's
the
sixth
Avenue,
the
Liberty
district
area.
We
had
meetings
that
that
she
was
involved
in.
So
it's
just
an
ongoing
process
that
that
we
think
is
important
not
just
for
uptown
and
we
think
up
temps
absolutely
needs
to
be
a
part
of
the
tad
they're
still
blighted
areas
and
I
would
efficient
definition
of
Uptown.
G
You
know
we
talk
about
uptown
all
the
time.
It's
it's
a
journey,
not
a
destination,
there's
always
going
to
be
things
that
need
to
be
done
in
Uptown
and
I.
Think
we've
all
seen
some
successes
there,
but
this
is
just
the
beginning,
we're
not
anywhere
near
where
we
need
to
be
an
uptown,
but
not
only
that
we
feel
like
joining
these
other
two
districts
together
just
makes
good
sense.
G
We
believe
that
that
sentence
you
there
that
will
be
created
by
those
three
districts,
it's
good
for
town
and
it's
good
for
the
other
two
and
we
are
paying
for
it.
We
think
it's
a.
We
think
it's
that
important
to
to
get
this
a
council
to
approve
it
in
this
process
that
we're
willing
to
go
through,
and
we
think
the
review
of
it
is
very
important
and
that's
why
we're
here
today,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
even
when
these
districts
are
approved,
nothing
fights
gets
finalized
until
this
council.
G
You
know
if
it
gets
proved
this
year
next
year,
any
project
that
comes
forward-
you
have
the
final
say
on,
but
these
opportunities
there
this
next
year,
jaunty
poses
in
audience.
John
is
working
on
a
project
right
now.
This
right
in
the
middle
of
Uptown
that
it's
critical
to
Uptown
and
a
tad
would
be
a
great
enhancement
for
his
project,
so
these
are
just
good
projects
and
we
certainly
understand
that
you
want
to
do
your
due
diligence.
G
A
A
These
organizations
came
together
and,
and
they
put
the
money
on
the
table
to
hire
the
professional
to
do
the
work
that
they've
done
and
and
we're
simply
there
to
facilitate
and
we
will
be
guided
by
the
council,
but
it's
not
driven
by
staff.
It's
driven
by
organizations
like
uptown
and
liberty
and
and
staff
for
support
there.
D
H
And
and
look
I
agree
with
councillor
Thomas
or
not,
you
know,
I
think
this
is
you
know
mr.
city
manager,
when
you
say
it's
driven
by
developers
that
that
doesn't
strike
you
good
I'm,
a
developer
and
I'm.
Looking
for
any
advantage,
I
could
get
to
the
question
here
is
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
and
I
have
to
believe
that,
with
all
due
respect
to
the
parties
here
that
the
administration
knew
about
this.
H
But
what
my
concern
is
we're
all
responsible
for
the
welfare
of
the
city
of
Columbus
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
projects
moving
right.
Now
the
mayor's
got
a
proposal
on
the
table.
There's
there's
plenty
of
other
tools
that
we've
added
to
redevelopment
tools
that
we've
added
to
our
war
chests
lately
that
we
can
offer
developers,
but
we've
got
a
lot
of
things
going
on
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
counter
activities
as
well,
going
on,
especially
in
the
Uptown
area,
where
a
lot
of
land
is
coming
off.
H
H
Think
I
was
the
first
one
that
that
brought
it
up
about
City
Village,
which
the
city
would
be
a
great
place
for
a
task,
and
that
led
to
one
thing
and
the
next
thing
we
got
a
master
plan
and
we're
move
for
their
also
support.
South
Columbus
would
be
great.
I
thought
Midtown
would
be
great
in
areas
of
Midtown,
but
we're
biting
off
a
big
chunk
here
that
we
need
to
really
I
think
it's
imperative
that
this
council.
Well,
you
you've
your
timeline.
This
is
the
first
time
I've
heard
about
it.
H
I
haven't
heard
anything
in
the
community
about
this,
just
until
today,
of
course,
of
then
out
of
the
country,
but
I
mean
I
haven't
heard
anything.
The
first
thing
that
comes
to
my
mind
is
I,
really
got
a
grasp
and
I
look
forward.
Mayor
to
talking
to
mr.
Blakely
I'm,
having
as
a
developer,
had
a
really
hard
time
grasping
you
numbers,
it's
a
pretty
serious
grandiose
plan
and
a
lot
of
speculation.
I
think
you
would
agree
with
me
at
the
end
of
the
day.
What
could
it
be?
H
That's
a
long
long
ways
away
of
what
you
were
project
him,
but
I
want
to
understand
how
it's
going
to
affect
the
city
and
where
we're
at,
because
we're
looking
at
it
from
a
budgetary
standpoint
and
being
able
to
run
the
city
and
if
we're
just
given
away
giving
away
and
given
away
large
areas
of
areas
that
are
already
moving
forward
from
a
development
standpoint,
we
may
be
shooting
ourselves
in
the
foot,
so
I
mean
I
want
to
take
the
time
to
slow
down
and
look
at
that
and
understand
it.
I
think.
H
That's
my
responsibility,
but
at
the
same
time
I
agree.
We
need
to
do
whatever
we
can
to
keep
moving
development
for
and
helping
folks.
The
other
thing
that
I
want
to
make
sure
of-
and
this
is
the
other
side
last
time
you
were
here,
I
asked
you
this
question.
You
agree
with
me
a
high
percent.
We
did
talk
about
mayor
originally
with
these
Tad's.
We
talked
about
that
when
we
pass
this,
that
the
council
was
going
to
get
together,
go
back
and
check
the
records.
H
Our
conversations
were
that
we
were
going
to
get
together
and
council
sit
down
and
determine
the
areas
of
where
we
need
to
put
tags.
Nothing
was
talked
about
that
all
of
a
sudden
that
private
entities
are
public
or
developers
would
start
being
the
ones
that
were
pushing
the
cart
in
in
the
name
of
stakeholders
and
bringing
what
they
would
want
or
what
they
would
be.
H
What
I
would
perceive
as
a
wish
list
to
start
moving
forward
in
such
a
short
period
of
time
and
and
I
and
I
say
this
and
just
kind
of
loose
conversation,
but
I
get
goes
back
to
trying
to
do
what's.
In
the
best
interest
of
the
seed,
not
saying
that
any
of
this
can't
take
place,
that's
not
what
I'm
saying
okay
and
I
mean
100%
for
Tad's
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
just
don't
jump
so
far
into
this,
that
it
comes
back
and
has
a
counter
effect.
H
One
of
the
things
I'm
concerned
about
which
we
talked
about
last
time,
you
agreed,
was
a
counterbalance
from
the
effect
of
cannibalism,
the
momentum
that
we
already
have
down
there
and
I
use
that
term
cannibalism.
You've
got
a
lot
of
people
that
have
invested
a
lot
of
money
down
there
and
they're
doing
well
right
now,
and
you
start
affecting
that
counterbalance.
H
You
may
start
a
new
business,
but
you
may
put
somebody
out
of
business
and
certainly
that's
something
that
I
really
want
to
understand,
and
we
said
that
that
we
would
be
given
more
advantages
to
the
new,
but
not
the
people
who
have
already
been
down
there,
that
invested
their
hard-earned
money
and
they're
already
there
today,
working
and
they're
trying
to
make
it.
But
yet
we're
going
to
do
something.
H
H
B
It's
always
gonna,
be
the
scale
of
the
community
that
you're
working
I
mean
the
developments
gonna
be
scale
to
that
opportunity,
and
the
other
thing
is
that
you're
only
creating
the
district
you're,
not
creating
anybody,
any
incentives,
that's
the
second
phase
of
the
process.
So
you
will,
you
will
have
to
approve
each
of
those
projects
for
incentives
and
because
you're
in
the
district
doesn't
mean
you
qualify,
you
mean
you
qualify.
That
doesn't
mean
you
receive
any
of
that
thing.
H
B
D
H
There
I
completely
understand
how
that
all
came
about,
and
you
know
that
I'm
working
in
the
middle
of
the
county
that
winnette
County,
that
has
a
number
of
Tad's
and
some
of
them,
have
not
been
successful,
contradictory
to
what's
been
said,
I've
worked
with
that
planning
department,
many
times
and
and
I
know.
What's
going
on,
but
I
think
in
the
point
of
my
frustration,
I'm
just
bringing
up
points
that
what
I'm
saying
is
I
have
a
lot
of
concerns.
I
threw
a
lot
of
stuff
out
here
on
the
table
and
the
reason.
H
D
H
Us
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
for
my
finance
department,
I'd,
like
to
see
a
complete
financial
impact
study
that
what
we're
talking
about
here
and
how
that's
going
to
affect
us
in
our
finances
is
going
forward.
I
think
those
are
things
that,
whether
he
call
a
stress
test
or
whatever
I'll
call
it
an
impact
study
but
I'd
like
to
understand
it
and
then
plug
in
these
points
that
are
being
brought
to
us.
I
D
Just
think,
let's,
let's
just
clear
this
up,
we
know,
first
of
all,
as
you
know,
I
ran
on
the
platform
of
revitalization
and
so
I
talk
about
it
every
day.
I
know
about
revitalization
projects
from
stakeholders,
not
just
developers.
Now
the
fort
benning
tech
park
was
most
certainly
as
developer
driven,
but
these
others
I
would
say
our
stakeholder-driven,
so
there's
a
definitional
difference,
but
there's
all
sorts
of
potential
projects,
any
one
of
which
could
hit
as
a
tad
if
they
get
their
act
together
and
are
able
to
do
a
pro
forma.
D
In
this
instance
they're,
the
leadership
was
available
and
they
felt
an
urgency
which
they
will
have
to
speak
to.
We
know
nothing
of,
but
they
came
to
us
just
very
recently,
I
guess
they
were
working
with
councilor
Woodson
again
at
the
district
counselor,
which
is
always
the
appropriate
thing
we
do
when
it
comes
to
road
projects
or
parks
or
anything
else.
It's
the
district
counselor
that
we
asked
the
stakeholders
to
contact
and
they
work
with,
and
we
were
asked
if
they
could
be
heard
ASAP
and
we're
certainly
happy
to
accommodate
them.
D
But
after
all,
as
they've
said
and
made
very
clearly
it's
Council,
that
makes
the
decision
as
to
the
timing
and
it's
the
ultimate
consideration.
So
you
know
they're
just
asking
for
your
consideration
related
to
the
districts
itself.
If
that's
not
acceptable
to
council
than
council
will
dictate
their
schedule.
H
Mayor
I
understand
we
Sam,
but
look
all
I
asked
you
has
it
been
explored
I,
don't
you're
telling
me
because
somebody
came
to
us
and
they
want
to
push
this
thing
through
that
you're
putting
it
on
the
table
would
be
done.
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
look
at
that
as
being
very
responsible,
but
I
know
from
the
conversations
we
had
in
the
past.
You
cannot
say
that
we
said
we
were
going
to
take
the
time
to
explore
this
and
understand
it
and
get
a
grasp
around
it
before
we
make
the
decisions.
That's
what
we
said.
H
D
Of
all,
we
are
not
asking
you
to
do
anything.
We
are
simply
allowing
stakeholders
the
opportunity
to
be
heard
by
council
I'm,
not
asking
anything,
I've
not
made
a
motion.
I'm
not
I'm,
not
authorized
to
make
a
motion.
So
this
is
a
conversation
among
people
who
are
bringing
council
information
for
their
consideration.
D
The
proposal
will
be
or
will
not
be
brought
back
at
councils,
discretion
and
the
I
think
the
there
absolutely
will
be
as
much
time
as
council
wants
to
to
look
at
any
aspect
of
any
of
the
tads,
but
I
think
there
is
a
difference
between
simply
setting
a
tad
district
and
approving
the
incentive
and
the
projects
which
are
two
completely
different
things.
So
I
think.
B
H
This
is
not
the
process
we
go
through.
You
know,
you
know
a
city
manager.
You
know,
we
know
we
don't
we
don't
do
it
like
this.
We
just
don't.
Do
it
like
this
and
that's
not
what
well
II,
when
I
approve
this
process
that
we
would
start
moved
forth.
That's
not
what
I
wasn't
led
to
believe
and
I'm.
Just
saying
tonight
that
I
don't
mind
folks
coming
forward.
I,
have
the
utmost
respect
for
these
people,
mr.
H
Blakely,
and
what
he's
done
and
Richard
Bishop
what
they've
done
and
like
I
said,
I
want
to
keep
seeing
momentum
and
development
happen
in
our
community.
I
also
know
the
impacts.
That's
going
on
right
now,
economically
in
our
in
our
community
underlying
currents
which
concerns
me
but
I'm
just
saying.
Can
we
slow
this
thing
down
long
enough
to
do
an
impact
study
to
understand
how
it's
going
to
affect
us
as
a
city
overall
in
the
future,
we
can't
afford
to
keep
losing
revenue.
We
just
can't.
H
B
Just
to
clarify
we
do
not
have
a
complete
plan
together
proposed
plan
together.
We
hope
to
have
that
to
you
early
in
November.
So
at
that
point
and
in
the
interim
we're
glad
to
sit
down
and
talk
through
the
plan,
but
we'll
have
a
lot
of
the
facts
and
figures
that
we
can
sit
down
and
walk
you
through
those
and
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
or
address
any
concerns,
but
we
are
literally
in
the
process
of
pulling
that
together
right
now,
so
I
think
that'll.
B
E
E
I
was
contact
a
couple
weeks
ago
in
reference
to
this
project
here
and
when
the
boundaries
and
and
things
were
discussed,
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
Liberty
District
area
was
included
in
the
process
and
that
it
was
extended
enough
where
more
development
can
happen.
My
understanding
of
this
whole
process
is
this
is
just
a
idea
that
demonstrates
the
boundaries
doesn't
mean
that
we're
gonna
go
put
dollars
and
cents
right
now
doesn't
mean
that
we're
gonna
build
a
600
room
hotel
or
anything
like
that.
E
Those
are
all
concepts
when
people
have
conversations
people
bring
up.
Ideas
of
what
could
happen
doesn't
mean
that
that's
what's
going
to
happen,
and
this
conversation
needs
to
get
started,
whether
we
agree
with
it
or
disagree
with
it.
But
the
conversation
needed
to
this
happen
because
everyone
here
has
been
discussing
about
development
jobs,
moving
our
community
into
another
Avenue
another
process.
This
is
a
good
way,
so
actually
tonight
was
supposed
to
be
a
process
of
a
bit
just
a
brief
of
some
stakeholders
who
came
together
and
said:
okay,
no
one's
moving
on
this.
E
No
one's
doing
anything.
We
are
willing
to
start
the
process
going.
Here's
a
concept,
here's
an
idea,
here's
where
we
want
to
go
so
in
the
sense
about
the
voting
in
two
weeks.
I,
don't
know
where
that
you
know
came
from,
but
the
whole
process
of
today
was
to
brief
everyone
and
hey.
This
is
a
possibility.
What
do
we
think
is
this?
Something
we
want
to
continue
to
study.
Is
this
something
that
we
could
even
consider
to
be
a
great
idea
and
I?
E
Think
it's
been
taken
out
of
proportion
like
this
is
stamped
sealed
and
only
developers
know
this
is
a
sketch.
This
is
the
draft
of
what
can
be
done
and
then
the
examples
that
are
being
used
is
no
different
than
any
other
community.
I
was
one
who
said:
let's
not
use
the
Llano
right
away,
because
Alana
is
not
a
good
place
to
compare
ourselves
with.
Let's
see,
use
East
Point
because
it's
a
little
better
to
for
us
to
guest
an
idea.
The
whole
idea.
E
This
is
taken
area
that
people
are
not
willing
to
come
and
invest
in
that's
blood
that
has
activities
that
people
do
not
want
in
their
neighborhood
and
redevelop
it.
It's
not
saying
you,
you
know
the
request
came
from
them.
I
wasn't
prepared
for
that.
The
request
came
from
them
to
do
it
in
two
weeks.
E
We
don't
have
to
do
what
anybody
asked
us
we
decide
when
and
when
it
gets
done,
but
we
can
take
what
was
brought
to
us
and
beginning
a
tool
to
do
exactly
what
you
said.
Glenn.
If
you
got
a
concern,
here's
an
opportunity,
yeah
there's
a
deadline,
but
if
there
are
the
questions,
aren't
answer
in
the
public
aren't
all
in
integrity
of
it.
Then
you
have
the
right
to
say
no.
When
a
vote
comes
on.
That
was
my
reason.
Why
I
did
a
referral
to
the
city
manager
says
I
wanted
on
our
website?
E
For
that
simple
reason,
so
that
people
that
are
hearing
it
today
and
I
said
it
that
day,
I
said
I,
don't
want
anybody
to
think
that
this
is
a
done
deal
staff
and
delivered.
We
want
to
be
able
to
tell
the
community.
This
is
an
idea.
This
is
a
potential.
This
can
be
a
good
thing.
Let's
talk
about
it
is
it
what
we
want?
E
The
Liberty
theater
area
is
the
one
that
I'm
really
focusing
on,
because
we've
been
for
so
long
saying,
we're
gonna
do
something,
but
we
haven't
been
able
to
do
it
for
one
reason
or
another.
This
is
a
good
opportunity
for
that
city,
village.
Everybody
got
crazy
and
excited
once
that,
for
a
briefing
came
back,
flew
through
this
council
chamber
very
quickly
to
identify
it
uptown
everyone's
been
talking
about
them.
E
I
remember
when
I
was
the
one
against
CSU
really
going
downtown,
because
it
would
have
so
many
young
people
downtown
and
mixing
with
the
bars
and
restaurants
and
then
later
you
know,
I
was
convinced
it
would
be
a
great
way.
Look
at
these
other
communities.
So
it's
just
a
concept:
let's
not
lock
ourselves,
to
debate
with
one
another.
Let's
look
at
it
and
if
everybody
thinks
it's
a
good
idea,
then
we
get
a
work
session
and
we're
gone
we'll.
Let
the
public
put
input,
we're
not
saying
we
have
to
vote
on
it.
E
We're
saying:
let's
start
the
talk.
Let's
start
the
process
just
like
before
you
have
questions
you
have
concerns,
send
them
in.
Let
those
concern
be
taken
care
of.
We
want
to
have
public
hearings,
so
the
people
in
the
community
can
have
the
opportunity.
Let's
have
it,
let's
see
what
the
public
says
again
and
I'm
gonna
be
quiet
mayor
because
I
know
you'll
be
quick
to
push
my
button
again.
I'm
just
trying
to
tell
I'm
just
trying
to
say
is:
this
is
a
concept,
an
idea
of
what
can
be
done
now.
E
It's
it's
in
motion
to
get
worked
on
may
get
approved.
Why
not
so
it
might
be
taken
out
somewhere,
not
I'd
like
to
see
the
tad
on
victory
Drive
to
include
south
Kenard?
Oh
that's
another
one.
You
know,
but
there's
additional
funds
and
probably
for
the
future.
We
don't
know
before
we
beat
it
up
and
say
it's
bad
and
we
got
disrespected
and
we
didn't
get
an
opportunity
to
put
an
input,
but
let's,
let's
take
it
slowly,
it's
an
opportunity
to
discuss
it's
no
different
than
here's
another
good
example.
E
It's
no
different
Gary
brought
up
an
idea,
and
he
said
you
know
this
is
an
idea
I
have
then
we
start
talking
about
idea.
Are
we
gonna
beat
his
idea
cuz?
He
just
brought
an
idea
to
the
floor.
No,
it's
a
starting
point
for
discussion
and
I'm
gonna
leave
it
at
that
and,
if
I'm
the
bad
person
for
bringing
a
subject
for
discussion,
then
I'm
the
bad
person.
But
we
all
sit
here
and
say
we
want
a
better
our
community.
We
want
to
give
opportunities,
we
want
to
create
jobs.
Well
then,
let's
talk
about
it.
D
Bleakley
why
the
white
did
you
all
request,
two
weeks
from
now?
What's
this
time,
sensitivity
and
and
I've
with
councillor
Woodson
on
that
that
did
come
from
y'all,
but
just
explain
why,
from
your
perspective
as
a
stakeholder
as
somebody
who's
been
hired
by
the
stakeholder,
why
is
the
two
weeks
the
urgency?
What's
that
all
about.
B
The
as
you
mentioned
earlier,
the
state
law
requires
that
you,
you
can
create
a
tax
allocation
district
anytime
during
the
year.
There's
no
set
timeframe,
but
it
only
goes
into
effect.
Whatever
you
create
it,
it
only
goes
into
effect
on
December
31
of
the
year
that
it's
created
and
the
reason
for
that
is
simple.
It's
make
it
easier
for
the
tax
commissioner,
so
that
they
get
to
the
end
of
the
year.
They
have
their
digest
reconciled
and
they
use
that
December
31
value.
So
we
don't
have
mid-year
values
and
confusion
about
when
the
process
starts.
B
So,
theoretically,
if
you
wanted
to
approve
the
Tad's,
you
know
we
would
need
to
get
it
done
about
the
20th
of
December
to
get
the
paper
trail
to
the
state
and
then,
if
actively
would
go
into
effect
at
the
end
of
this
year
and
the
only
argument
to
do
that
is
that
if
the
tan
is
created
on
December
31,
say
of
2015,
you
start
building
increment
in
next
year,
so
January
1st
any
additional
revenues
potentially
go
into
the
tad
district.
If,
let's
say
for
the
sake
of
argument,
everybody
wants
more
discussion.
E
B
Our
reason
we've
raised
this
was
if
there
was
support
for
the
three
Tad's
and
it
was
not
a
big
issue.
There's
certainly
plenty
of
time
to
do
it
by
the
end
of
the
year.
But
if
it's
counsels
decision
that
you
need
more
time
to
review
it
and
consider
the
alternatives,
then
you
don't
take
that
time.
It's
not
okay,
so.
B
If
there
was,
we
did
one
in
LaGrange
in
24
hours,
Lagrange
got
city,
county
and
school
board
approval
in
24
hours
to
create
a
tad
say
in
a
specific
project,
was
very
focused
on
yeah.
That's
totally
unusual
that
doesn't
isn't
what
happens
but
legally
or
procedurally.
You
could
do
that.
So
you
know
our
thought
was
depending
on
what
the
at
what
the
approach
of
council
was
to
this
proposal.
C
The
way
mini
explains
it:
I
can
digest
it
without
having
indigestion
and
I'm
all
for
off
weight.
I
mean
I'm.
All
for
tat
have
been
for
Dad.
Now,
it's
gonna,
probably
I
know
it's
it
rained.
Today
it
will
probably
snow
and
be
a
blizzard
tomorrow.
The
reason
I
say
that
is
because
I
very
rarely
agree
with
anything
counselor
Thomas
says,
but
I
will
agree
with
her
this
time.
I
C
My
big
thing
and
the
thing
that
hit
a
chord
with
me,
is
what
Minnie
says.
You
know
all
of
us
up
here
and
I'm
about
a
way
I
want
to.
Thank
you
and
I
can't
wait
to
go
through
that
presentation.
I
do
understand
it.
I'm
all
wrapped
up,
my
Adrenaline's
flowing
the
only
problem
is
I
have
never
been
an
advocate
for
us
getting
something
and
coming
back
in
two
weeks.
You
know
why.
C
C
C
Excited
about
it,
but
I
can
digest
it
too
way
that
Mindy
said
it
that
we
should
do
a
do
a
knee-jerk
reaction
to
this
year,
but
allow
adequate
feed
and
the
second
thing
I
want
to
bring
up.
If
someone
comes
to
me
in
my
district
with
an
idea,
I
think
that,
on
to
expound
on
what
councilor
Thomas
was
saying,
I
think
that
it's
Oh
to
every
counselor
up
here,
because
it
takes
six
of
us
to
agree
on
anything
for
us
to
be
able
to
once
that
council.
They
come
to
the
counselor.
C
I
appreciate
your
respect,
but
once
that
is
I,
think
that
two
other
council
members,
even
though
it
might
be
my
district,
that
other
council
councilmembers
approximate
to
the
time
that
I'm
exposed
to
it.
They
need
to
be
exposed
to
it
as
well,
so
that
they
can
massage
it
and
and
and
and
think
about
it
and
start
letting
the
people
in
their
districts
know.
But
the
city's
going
to
do.
But
I
do
want
to.
Thank
you
because
I,
it
was
because
of
you
that
I
had
a
I
had
to
understand
an
attack.
C
F
Want
to
be
sure
that
if
I
gave
the
impression
that
I
thought
that
you
were
hiding
things
which
to
me
has
a
negative
kind
of
I
did
not
mean
you
were
hiding
things.
What
I
meant
was.
This
is
the
first
that
we
have
seen
all
of
this
information
and
I
for
one
need
an
opportunity
to
digest.
It
I
appreciate
your
willingness
and
the
willingness
of
the
other
stakeholders
to
have
individual
conversations
with
us,
but
I
also
believe
that
some
of
the
best
conversations
that
we
have
are
with
each
other
I
do
think
that
there
are.
B
F
F
F
So
that's
where
that
time
line
came
in
and
I'm
hoping
that,
with
some
of
the
conversation
that
you've
heard
tonight
that
you
you
hear,
there
are
at
least
some
of
us
who
are
concerned
about
moving
so
quickly
and
one
of
the
requests
that
I
would
make
of
whoever
it
is
appropriate
to
make.
This
request
is
that
whenever
we
discuss
this
to
any
degree
that
we
be,
we
the
counselors,
be
given
the
information,
the
materials
in
sufficient
time
before
that
meeting,
so
that
we
can,
we
can
digest
it.
F
We
can
talk
to
our
constituents
about
it
and
to
me
that
means
more
than
after
five
o'clock
on
the
Friday
before
the
council
meeting
when
I
get
my
full
agenda
on
online
and
I,
just
have
to
say
this
and
I
probably
shouldn't
but
I'm
gonna
say
it
anyway.
Please
remember
that
I
am
an
at-large
councillor.
F
That
means
I
represent
people
in
the
entire
county,
and
so
anytime
there
is
a
conversation
about
what
is
going
on
in
the
county.
It
is
certainly
appropriate
for
the
district
councillor
to
be
involved,
but
it
is
not
beyond
the
pale
that
the
at-large
councillors
should
also
be
involved
in
those
conversations.
F
I
know
that
there
are
times
when
people
tend
to
forget
that,
but
if
you
live
in
the
city
in
the
boundaries
of
Muscogee
County
I
am
one
of
your
three
representatives
on
this
council
and
I,
just
as
I
said,
I
probably
shouldn't
have
said
that,
but
there
it
is-
and
so
hopefully,
when
this
comes
back
to
us,
whenever
that
is,
we
will
have
enough
material
and
enough
time
to
talk
about
it
and
do
it
correctly.
It's
the
first
one.
F
H
You,
mayor
and
I
I
just
want
to
say
the
the
maybe
the
frustrations
that
surfaced
and-
and
some
of
my
comments
was
more
the
lines
of
just
what
we
do
from
a
process.
Standpoint
not
not
what's
happening
out
out
in
the
community
in
trying
to
grasp
it
from
that
standpoint
I.
You
know
I'm
just
sitting
here,
thinking
about
when
I
first
heard
about
it,
I
was
like
you
know.
I
I
was
probably
today
say
that
that
city
village
would
be
perfect,
but
you
know
the
other
part
of
me
says
we'll
wait.
H
A
minute
were
doing
a
master
plan.
I
didn't
seen
the
master
plan
yet
so
you
know
I'm
trying
to
understand.
If
there
was
a
project,
you
know
I'm
sitting
I'm
doing
all
this
right
here
matter
of
fact,
I'm
having
to
do
it
right
here,
because
this
first
I
heard
about
and
I
guess
the
frustration
is
that
the
way
I
heard
I
appreciate
what
counsel
Woodson
said.
Concept
is
appropriate.
H
That's
that's
one
thing,
but
if
we
don't
I,
you
know
I'm
still
trying
to
grasp
around
the
matter
of
discussion
and
making
sure
that
when
we,
when
this
is
approved
or
whatever's
approved
that
we
know
that
we're
doing
the
right
thing
and
I
feel
that
responsibility
to
the
citizens
in
the
City
of
Columbus
Liberty
district,
we
already
have
a
master
plan.
I
think
those
are
areas
that
I
could
say
today
they
need
help.
They
need
help.
H
We
need
to
spur
development
and
I've
always
thought
that
a
tad
has
been
part
of
a
redevelopment
from
a
standpoint
of
blight
the,
but
for
or
just
trying
to
get
areas
that
need
some
kind
of
Senate
to
move
forward.
But,
like
I
said
before,
we've
spent
a
lot
of
money
in
investment
to
try
to
in
areas
of
town,
to
keep
development
going
and
we've
got
momentum
in
those
areas,
and
you
know
I'm
still
willing
to
understand
this
from
a
counterbalance
standpoint.
H
I
think
the
idea,
the
ideal
thing
would
be
to
take
a
section,
say,
city,
metals
and
start
there
and
see
how
it
works
and
then
maybe
moved
to
another
air.
Another
out
we're.
We
are
biting
off
I'm,
trying
to
understand
this.
This
large
chunk
of
area
potential
area
that
we're
just
gonna
put
out
there
and
put
in
a
tad
and
just
say:
okay,
anybody
that
comes
along
you
on
development
here,
just
you
know,
just
keep,
keep
doing
it.
We're
just
gonna.
H
Basically,
infill
and
I
want
to
understand
that
that
impact
of
that
acts
from
that
standpoint,
but
I
also
want
to
grasp
it.
Like
I,
said
mayor
I
still
want
to
understand
this
from
a
from
a
numbers
standpoint
and
how
it
deals
with
the
city
and
our
ability
to
generate
tax
revenue
and
what
we
need
to
keep
this
city
right.
I,
don't
need
to
remind
everybody
about
where
the
budget
is
and
what
we're
dealing
with
revenue
and
the
the
you
know
the
continued
loss
of
revenue
not
only
on
sales
tax,
but
in
in
other
areas.
H
Those
are
those
are
areas
that
are
charged
to
us
to
factor
into
this.
This
whole
equation.
That's
not
what
you
do
you
know,
but
it
it
does
from
our
perspective.
So
I
really
appreciate
it.
I'm
gonna
call
you
and
we're
gonna
talk
about
I'm
gonna
sit
down
with
Richard
no
Richard
well
and
we're
gonna
sit.
We're
gonna
talk
about
this
and
try
to
understand
it.
E
I
don't
want
anyone
in
this
council
to
feel
that
anybody
disrespected
their
authority
or
their
power
where
their
ideas
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
The
whole
objective
of
tonight
was
to
be
a
briefing.
That's
all.
It
was
I
think
that,
requesting
that
the
two
weeks
to
be
approved,
it's
what
caused
all
these
conversations
and
mixed
feelings
about
whether
we
should
or
shouldn't
do
it
in
the
budget,
so
I
hope
everybody
can
put
that
aside
and
start
looking
at
the
actual
discussions.
Is
it
beneficial?
E
Is
this
awkward
you
said
about
such
a
big
large
area?
Well,
that's
no
different
than
when
we
do
cleaning
of
areas
hoping
that
a
developer
comes
in
if
it
entices
a
developer,
you
have
the
in
you
know
and
Glen.
You
know
this
about.
In
being
a
developer,
you
try
to
find
what
would
appeal
to
an
individual
somebody
might
come
in
this
community
and
the
Liberty
theater
appears
to
them.
Maybe
City
Village,
maybe
the
uptown.
E
Well,
if
the
tad
is
in
place,
that
gives
an
opportunity
for
a
developer
or
a
stakeholder
to
choose
we're
in
an
area
that
is
beneficial
to
them,
that
it's
being
developed,
so
I
hope
tonight
doesn't
become.
Okay,
forget
it
because
I
wasn't
involved
in
the
discussion.
I
hope
it's
just
the
beginning
of
a
conversation
to
something
that's
going
to
benefit
the
whole
community,
not
just
the
part
of
community,
so
I
hope.
E
The
continued
discussion
on
this
we're
not
gonna
focus
on
I
wasn't
part
of
the
briefing
you
brought
it
back
for
two
weeks,
so
I
hope
we
can
get
away
from
that.
I
hope
we
can
just
focus
on
the
importance
of
what
it
can
do
for
our
community
and
bring
it
back
for
the
discussion.
Put
it
on
file
call
can
sit,
can
one-on-one
get
your
answers
again?
He
stood
there
before
us.
The
mayor
has
said
it.
The
city
manager
has
said
it.
You
know
pops
even
mention
it.
We
don't
have
to
vote.
E
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
we
don't
have
to
vote
on
it
in
two
weeks.
In
three
weeks
in
a
month
we
can
vote
on
it
when
we
all
feel
comfortable,
so
I
hope
we
don't
get
bombed
down
on
that
subject.
I
hope
we
can
move
on
and
look
at
the
aspects
of
it
and
understand
and
go
back
to
our
constituents
and
say
all
this
is
identifying
an
area
that
can
be
developed
and
if
it's
in
your
neighborhood
guess
what,
if
that
happens,
you're
gonna
get
rid
of
some
of
that
blood
and
light
it
in
your
community.
E
You're
gonna
have
jobs
created
for
you.
You're
gonna
have
a
better
place
to
live
a
place
that
you
will
be
proud
to
call
your
home,
your
community,
your
neighborhood,
that's
what
I
hope
that
we
all
focus
on
Naju,
broader,
who
didn't
two
weeks
three
weeks.
What
is
it
for
the
community
and
I'm
gonna
leave
it
alone.
Thank.
A
Well,
madam
mayor,
let
me
just
thank
you
for
the
discussion
and
thank
mr.
Blakely
and
the
stakeholders
who
brought
all
of
us
together
as
I
say
that
staff
has
been
playing.
The
role
of
facilitating
and
I
was
in
a
meeting
with
them
just
on
Friday,
and
in
that
meeting
we
thought
we
could
move
this
process
by
doing
an
update
today
and
I
know
that
you
wanted
to
bring
it
in
two
weeks,
and
that
was
the
timeline
that
you
had
and
you
were
gonna
ask
that
we
put
it
on
first
reading
and
I
said
no.
A
We're
gonna
do
an
update
next
Tuesday
we're
not
just
going
to
put
it
on
a
first
reading
agenda
and
I
said.
If
their
questions
are
answered
at
the
update,
then
we
can
bring
it
back
in
two
weeks
if
they
are
satisfied
and
that's
what
we
set
out
to
accomplish
today,
but
I
think
you're
a
plan
or
you
thought
the
process
would
be
bring
it
the
second
Tuesday
in
November,
and
then
it
goes
from
there
and
and
and
I
said
no
week
under
an
update.
I
just
want
to
provide
that
clarification,
and
so
we
will.
A
The
staff
will
continue
to
play
the
role
of
facilitating.
We
don't
we're
not
going
out
looking
for
tasks.
You
know
the
tab
that
the
mayor
talked
about,
that
this
other
councillor
is
working
on
is
not
being
brought
forward
by
us.
As
this
was
not
brought
forward
by
us.
We
will
continue
to
work
to
support
and
facilitate
developers
or
stakeholders
who
have
an
interest
in
developing
or
redeveloping
economically
depressed
areas
or
areas
that
are
slow
to
grow
and
so
I
don't
have
a
timeline
or
an
agenda.
They
do.
A
They
do
not
mean
not.
Staff
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear,
and
so,
if
council
and
and
they
wanted
to
try
and
accomplish
this
by
the
end
of
the
year,
so
that
they
could
move
forward.
As
mr.
Blakely
has
stated,
I
don't
have
a
timeline,
and
so,
if
based
on
what
I've
heard
here
tonight,
it's
up
I'm
looking
to
them
to
communicate
with
you,
because
it's
their
idea.
It's
their
proposal.
A
That's
what
it
sounds
like
to
me.
I
know
that
you
wanted
this
to
happen
and
you
wanted
it
to
happen
now,
but
do
whatever
you
got
to
do,
to
inform
them,
educate
them
and
bring
them
up
to
speed.
We
will
be
there
to
support
in
that
effort
and,
if
its
next
year,
its
next
year
for
2017
year's
2017,
but
we
are
there
to
support.
Thank.
I
To
say
it
won't
be
done,
but
the
end
of
this
year,
I
don't
think.
That's
they
on
anybody's
part.
We
don't
know,
what's
gonna
happen
next
month
and
the
next
month,
but
council
has
said
they
want
to
have
some
work
sessions.
They
want
some
information
sessions
to
take
place
before
a
vote
is
brought
before.
Something
is
brought
to
us,
Devon
and
I.
Think
there's
ample
amount
of
time
in
the
month
of
November
to
have
these
information
sessions
and
it
can
still
come
back
and
do
some
of
me
voted
on
in
a
decently.
I
I
D
G
D
G
H
And
I
was
gonna.
Make
that
suggestion
the
city
manager
I,
did
you
know
I
do
I
think
it's
the
city's
tad
to
be
honest
with
ya
I,
don't
think
it's
somebody
else's
dad
I
think
it's
the
city's
tab.
It's
a
redevelopment
tool
that
the
city
is
offering
in
an
area
that's
being
approved
now,
I,
just
I
was
gonna,
make
a
suggestion.
H
H
But
you
know
if
we
could
maybe
put
a
list
of
all
these
concerns
and
and
maybe
somehow
get
all
this
stuff
together
and
formulate
it
that
you
could
put
in
a
presentation
and
then
you
can,
you
know,
communicate
back
with
us
and
help
us
understand
it,
because
I'm
serious
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
want
to
I
just
feel
that
responsibility
in
the
day
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
doing
the
right
thing.
Okay
and
I
don't
want
to
do
something.
H
D
J
You
thank
you
for
letting
us
come
to
be
a
part
of
this
tonight
and
I
did
have
some
comments,
but
I'm
gonna
withhold
till
we
hear
from
what
you
guys
have
to
say
and
then
we'll
we'll
try
to
do
whatever.
We
need
to
do
to
encourage
you
to
support
this
event.
It
is
certainly
driven
I've,
been
talking
to
mr.
Blakely
long
before
any
of
the
other
fact
before
the
Uptown
in
Midtown
I've
been
talking
to
him
about
a
tear
in
the
historic
district.
J
So
I'm
excuse
me
and
delivered
edition,
so
I
I'm
not
quite
sure
all
of
the
political
processes
that
you
have
to
go
through
and
I
understand.
You
guys
have
to
report
to
your
constituency,
but
remember
now
the
constituency
passed
this,
so
they
want
you
to
do
this
or
they
wouldn't
have
passed.
It
so
think
about
it.
On
that
basis
too,
as
well,
we
want
to
make
this
city
grow.
I've
been
living
here.
All
my
life
and
I.
Don't
want
us
to
stymie
over
some
things
that
we
don't
feel
like.
J
D
You
all
so
much
for
what
you
do
and
we
do
have
a
very
engaged
council
and
don't
take
that
I
hope
you
don't
take
that
as
discouragement
I
was
at
a
conference
once-
and
somebody
said
oh
well
in
another
community
will
have
our
council
rubber-stamp
it
and
I
literally
spit
my
coffee
out,
because
that
does
not
happen
in
Columbus
Georgia.
So
you've
got
a
full
and
engaged
council,
as
you
just
witnessed.
D
K
Just
one
more
point
on
the
Ted
scheduling,
just
so
y'all
know
whether
you
want
to
go
more
quickly
or
less
quickly.
If
you
want
to
do
something
this
year,
you've
got
to
have
two
public
hearings
with
this
body,
the
governing
body,
but
both
got
to
be
advertised
for
at
least
five
days
before
you
have
a
hearing.
So
you
gotta
have
one
to
present
a
proposed
plan
and
another
for
this
council
to
approve
a
proposed
plan
and
you
can
approve
it
by
resolution.
A.
K
D
K
K
K
D
K
D
L
K
K
K
The
mo
you
will
just
be
another
enabling
mechanism
for
the
development
authority
to
have
a
meeting.
Consider
a
look
at
a
proposed
plan,
help
the
city
administrator
once
it's
approved,
but
and
issue
bonds.
If
necessary,
they
they
cannot
approve
the
Ted
district
plan.
That's
only
for
the
council.
What.
L
K
B
The
question
was
the
the
bond.
The
tad
district
will
be
a
district
of
this
city.
You
are
the
only
group
in
power
to
create
a
tad
district,
so
private
developers,
interest
groups.
Citizens
can
come
forward
and
propose
at
a
district,
but
it's
the
action
of
the
council
that
creates
the
district.
So,
for
example,
if
you
adopted
these,
these
would
be
the
City
of
Columbus
tat
district
number,
one
two
and
three
in
terms
of
the
debt
that
you
would
issue.
If
you
issue
bonds,
you
basically
have
three
things
you
could
do.
B
You
could
pay
as
you
go,
so
you
collect
the
money
you
just
pay
it
out
annually.
You
may
have
a
contract
with
somebody
over
ten
years
will
effectively
rebate
your
property
taxes.
For
ten
years
you
can
bank
finance
it,
which
is
kind
of
more
the
way
we're
seeing
deals
done
now,
just
like
a
bank
loan,
the
bank
loans
with
the
city
and
their
only
recourse
is
to
the
TAT
account
to
the
money
that's
collected
in
that
account.