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A
Mayor
skip
Henderson
city
manager,
Isaiah
Hughley
pops,
Barnes
district,
one
Glenn
Davis
district
2,
Bruce
Huff
District
3,
Toya,
Tucker,
District,
4,
Charmaine,
crab
District,
5,
Gary,
Allen,
mayor
Pro,
tem
and
District
Six
Joanne
kogel
district
7,
Walker
Garrett,
District,
8,
Judy,
Thomas
posts;
nine
at
large
counselor
Tyson,
Begley,
Post
10
at
large
counselor,
Sandra,
Davis,
Clerk
of
counsel
and
City
Attorney
Clifton
Faye,
Columbus
Georgia.
This
is
your
city,
council,
foreign.
B
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
August
8th
meeting
of
the
Columbus
city
council,
I
am
not
skip
Henderson.
If
you
can't
tell
that
the
mayor
is
welcoming
a
group
to
Columbus
with
Council
Congressman
Stanford
bishop-
and
he
should
be
here
shortly-
the
mayor,
Pro
tem,
is
on
personal
business
today.
So
the
mayor
called
me
this
morning
and
said
you're,
the
only
one
who
knows
how
to
work
the
machine.
So
you
know
you
can
preside,
but
we
do
welcome
you
to
this
meeting
today
and
we'll
get
started.
B
C
You
may
we
all
humble
ourselves
before
God
this
morning,
Heavenly
Father.
We
give
you
glory
honor,
thanks
and
praise.
In
this
moment.
We
we
honor
you
in
the
midst
of
this
council
meeting.
We
ask
that
you
bless
every
counselor
here
and
those
that
may
be
absent.
We
ask
that
you
bless
everyone
in
this
room,
all
those
that
are
in
this
midst
Lord.
C
We
ask
that,
as
we
go
forth
in
this
meeting,
that
you
continue
to
give
guidance
and
wisdom
and
knowledge
to
the
people
who
will
lead
our
city,
we
ask
that
you
will
continue
to
give
them
strength.
Give
them
give
them
courage
to
do
what
it
is
that
you've
called
and
assigned
for
them
to
do
Lord.
We
ask
that
you
bless
the
state
of
this
city,
whether
it
be
in
our
finances,
whether
it
be
in
whatever
situation
that
we
Face.
We
ask
that
you
bless
the
state
of
this
city.
C
We
also
ask
for
a
mighty
blessing
on
our
city,
that
you
will
remove
evil
and
that
you
will
come
in
and
bring
your
spirit
of
good
that
you
will
bring
our
communities
together,
that
you
will
bring
us
together
in
unity
that
you
will
bless
the
family
units
Lord
and
Lord
as
the
schools
begin
today.
We
ask
that
you
bless
all
of
our
youth
in
our
education
and
that
you
will
continue
to
be
in
the
midst
of
everything
that
takes
place
in
this
city
Lord.
C
We
ask
that
you
give
responsibility
to
us
that
are
going
to
lead
forward
in
this
city.
We
ask
that
you
continue
to
give
everyone
accountability,
that
they
will
do
according
to
your
will
and
purpose,
and
as
they
do,
according
to
your
will
and
purpose,
give
us
Faith
give
us
wisdom
and
knowledge
of
you
that
we
may
recognize
you
for
who
you
really
are
and
honor
your
name
and
honor
you
in
every
decision
that
we
make
and
everything
that
we
do
bless
this
meeting
as
we
go
forth.
We
thank
you.
C
B
Pastor
Harris
before
you
leave
the
podium.
Pastor
Harris
has
been
an
intern
in
the
mayor's
office
for
the
last
couple
of
months
and
has
served
us
well.
He
is
a
rising
sophomore
at
Georgia,
State,
right
and
I
have
a
feeling.
We
may
see
him
around
again,
but
welcome
and
thank
you
for
what
you
have
done
for
our
for
our
city
and
and
working
in
the
mayor's
office.
Yes,.
B
First
on
our
agenda
are
the
minutes
of
our
July
25th
meeting.
Do
I
hear
a
motion
to
approve
motion
to
have
proven?
Second?
Are
there
any
corrections
or
additions
to
the
minutes?
If
not
all
those
in
favor
of
adoption,
please
say
aye
any
opposed.
The
minutes
are
adopted.
The
first
item
on
our
agenda
today
is
the
crime
prevention
board,
grants
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Seth
Brown,
who
is
the
director
of
the
office
of
crime
prevention.
E
Thank
you,
councilor
Thomas,
the
mayor
and
I,
discussed
this
because
there's
so
many
on
the
list.
He
said
basically
just
read
down
each
one
and
give
the
amount
and,
if
there's
any
questions
afterwards.
So
if
is
that
the
pleasure
of
counsel.
B
F
Oh
there,
it
is
thank
you,
I
want
to
thank
Seth
and
the
board
for
all
the
work
that
they've
done
to
go
through
these
applications
and
create
this
list.
At
this
point
in
time,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
pull
this
list.
For
now,
we
became
aware
that
the
board
was
one
person
shy,
and
so
I
would
like
for
us
to
fill
that
position
quickly
and
I
believe
that
someone
does
have
a
nomination
today.
F
B
B
B
B
Okay
and
now,
if
you
will
give
your
name
and
a
physician,
can
we
turn
on
the
mic
at
the
podium?
Please,
yes,.
B
G
Name
is
Danny
arancibia.
My
name
is
Danny
aaroncivia,
chair
of
the
crime
prevention
board.
We
just
want
to
thank
you
for
allowing
us
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today,
really
I
when,
when
I,
when
I
found
out
this
was
going
to
happen
this
morning,
I
just
didn't
understand.
G
You
know
we
have
a
board
member
who
who
passed
away,
unfortunately
right
in
the
midst
of
going
through
our
applications,
and
we
recognize
how
many
people
in
this
audience
are
spending
their
own.
Build
money,
home
expense
money
to
to
not
only
have
the
resources
for
these
programs
keeping
kids
off
the
street,
most
of
them
out
of
their
own
pockets,
and
the
last
thing
we
want
to
do
is
prevent
them
from
receiving
these
Grant
funds.
G
Holding
this
up
longer
is
just
is
just
a
burden
on
this
audience:
they're
literally
spending
their
own
money,
keeping
kids
off
the
street,
and
because
we
were
one
board
member
short,
because
she
passed
away
and
we
didn't
feel
the
vacancy
quick
enough.
We
can
still
conduct
business
just
like
you're
conducting
now
without
the
mayor.
Here
we
can
still
conduct
business.
We
would
have
had
Quorum
anyway,
okay,
because
we
understand
the
importance
of
these
programs
in
our
community.
B
I,
we
appreciate
your
comments
this
morning.
Are
there
other
comments
from
the
council
about
the
to
the
motion.
F
Thank
you.
So
the
reason
why
is
because
there's
it's
going
to
be
in
my
second
motion,
you
know
that
do
I
just
go
ahead
and
talk
about
my
second
motion.
Okay,
this
okay,
it's
my
understanding
that,
first
and
foremost,
that
these
funds
are
not
supposed
to
be
going
to
up
start
organizations
that,
as
Mr
Aaron
sibia
described,
needed
These
funds
in
order
to
keep
their
doors
open.
F
They
were
supposed
to
be
established,
and
this
is
is
this
is
enhancement,
and
so
it
is
my
understanding
based
on
that
that
us
delaying
does
not
affect
them
the
way
he
describes
it.
Secondly,
we
want
the
focus
to
remain
on
crime
prevention.
We
do
have
a
representative
from
the
police
department
on
the
board.
We
do
not
have
a
representative
from
the
sheriff's
department
on
the
board.
We
think
it's
very
crucial
that
the
board
has
Insight
from
both
bodies
of
law
enforcement,
to
explain
to
them
where
the
crime
prevention
Focus
needs
to
be.
F
So
my
next
motion
is
going
to
be
that
we
add
another
representative
from
the
sheriff's
department
and
I
believe
the
sheriff
is
here
and
he
is
ready
to
make
a
nomination
for
that.
So
we
will
move
through
this
quickly,
but
it's
something
that
I
feel
is
very
important
to
enhance
this
board,
and
you
know
we
have
the
crucial
dis.
F
I
I
Adding
to
the
board
someone
from
the
sheriff
100
agree:
I
I,
get
that
also
understand
want
to
focus
on
the
established
ones
rather
than
the
upstarts
that
we
know
are
going
to
have
a
big
impact.
Understand
that
as
well,
so
to
clarify
it
does
sound
like
you
expect
this
list
to
change
once
we
add
that
person
on
the
board
of
once
they've
added
a
new
person
and
they've
Revisited
you're,
expecting
this
list
to
change
so
that
it's
more
focused
on
established
ones
and
crime
prevention.
It's.
F
D
I
I
I
agree
it's
hard
to
follow
this
I
think
if
there
was
a
a
way
to
view
this,
where
we
could
see
all
the
information
on
what's
kind
of
a
summary
of,
and
then
I
think,
that's
why
you're
probably
about
to
speak
to
is
what
each
of
these
are
doing.
Regarding
crime
prevention
and
the
way
they've
been
around,
is
there?
F
I
mean
I,
don't
think
it
it.
You
know.
I've
they're,
presenting
things
to
us
and
I
know
that
in
the
past,
since
I've
been
sitting
in
this
chair,
we
have
pulled
some
things
from
the
list,
but
I
don't
but
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
to
do
that.
All
I
want
all
I'm
doing
is
delaying
this
vote
and
maybe
that's
a
better
way
of
stating
it
is
to
delay
the
vote
to
allow
this
board
to
have
a
full
board
and
a
representative
from
the
sheriff
on
it,
and
that
may
that
may
not
change
the
results.
F
I
No
I
I
get
it
I.
100
agree.
We
should
add.
We
can
change
the
board
to
your
point,
I'll
I'm,
trying
to
figure
out
because
I
know
some
of
these.
We
we've
we
we're
experienced
with,
and
we
do
have
people
here,
but
to
your
point,
it's
probably
confusing
to
have
like
a
piecemeal
list
where
you
do
some
of
it
now
with
some
of
it
later
and
so
delaying
it's
probably
the
cleaner
approach.
B
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
that
the
motion
that's
on
the
table
is
to
delay
the
adoption
of
the
list
of
grants
to
a
later
date.
That's
the
motion.
That's
on
the
floor.
Councilor
crab
moved
in
cancer.
Pogo
seconded
that.
So
that's
that's.
J
J
And
I
guess:
I
guess
what
I
would
do
and
I
would
defer
to
councilor
Thomas,
because
she
was
one
of
the
architects
of
this
with
with
Jim,
wetherington
and
I.
Think
that
that
the
crime
prevention
board
as
I
recall,
I,
wasn't
as
integrally
involved
as
you
were,
but
as
I
recall,
the
crime
prevention
peace
was
a
promise
made
to
people
in
the
community
so
that
it
wasn't
all
all
of
that.
70
30
that
70
percent
it
went
to
Public
Safety
didn't
just
go
to
law
enforcement.
J
The
point
was:
there's
a
very
big
gap
if
you're
not
also
taking
care
of
crime
prevention
and
then
subsequent
to
that
I
think
they
also
talked
about
kind
of
separating
I
mean
you
do
have
an
a
representative
from
Public
Safety,
which
can
be
from
the
sheriff
can
be
from
EMS.
It
can
be
from
the
police,
and
then
you
have
some
other
designated
individuals.
I
know
for
I,
think
education
and
that
can
be
mcsd.
J
It
can
be
Columbus
Tech,
it
can
be
Columbus
State,
but
the
idea
was
to
insulate
that
board
so
that
no
mayor
could
go
up
there
and
say
hey
my
my
Uncle
John's
got
a
really
good
program.
I
want
you
to
try
to
make
sure
he
gets
a
little
money,
and
so
no
counselor
could
could
impact
that
this
is
not
to
be
controlled
by
the
elected
body.
This
is
to
be
controlled
as
I
recall
by.
J
By
a
group
of
individuals
that
were
put
together
by
this
by
this
board
or
by
this,
this
Council,
who
would
exercise
their
judgment
based
on
what
they
see
in
the
different
areas
of
the
community,
so
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
vote,
but
I
I
would
before
we
change
the
promise
we
made
to
the
people
in
exchange
for
a
vote
for
a
sales
tax
I
would
hope
we
would
give
it
some
real,
serious
consideration
and
maybe
listen
to
councilor
Thomas,
who
is
who
was
present
at
the
beginning
of
all
that
probably
had
more
insight
than
us,
because,
as
a
counselor,
you
know
a
part-time
legislative
position.
J
I
didn't
have
the
benefit
of
talking
with
mayor
weatherington
and
those
pastors
that
were
asking
for
some
of
those
those
things
so
and
that's
just
from
a
historical
perspective.
Just
so
ever
because
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
folks
that
are
on
this
on
this
Council
now
that
weren't
around
when
these
promises
and
these
kind
of
commitments
were
made
so
I
don't
know
just
kind
of
from
what
it
for
what
it's
worth.
Councilor
Davis.
B
Mayor,
when
this
was
put
together,
one
of
the
criteria
was
in
order
to
be
a
recipient
of
a
grant.
You
had
to
be
an
established
program
and
there
was
conversation
about
being
a
401
C3,
oh
501.,
501c3
organization.
It
was
not
meant
to
be
a
startup.
I
know
that
in
the
first
couple
of
years
that
this
was
in
effect,
the
board
had
to
tell
more
than
one
person.
No
we're
not
going
to
pay
your
startup
fees,
that's
not
what
this
is
for.
B
000
was
to
go
to
in
in
that
direction,
and
it
was
that
the
board
would
look
at
all
of
those
applications
and
decide
and
make
recommendations
to
the
council
for
the
council
to
vote
on
spending
the
money.
If,
if
you
want,
if
you
gave
us
a
grant,
gave
us
a
nomination
of
a
grant
for
twenty
five
thousand
dollars,
for
example,
this
Council
voted
on
whether
or
not
to
award
that
amount.
B
The
council
did
not,
as
the
mayor
said,
get
involved
in
looking
at
the
applications
and
all
of
that,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
most
of
the
time
we
don't
even
know
who's
on
that
list
until
the
director
of
the
department
brings
that
list
to
us.
So
that
was
that
was
the
impetus,
our
part
of
the
impetus
to
put
this
group
together
and
it
was
to
go
beyond
and
help
organizations
go
beyond
what
they
were
currently
doing
in
order
to
help
in
the
crime
prevention
area.
J
Thank
you,
councilor
Davis
did
you?
Yes
thank.
K
You
mayor
I'm,
just
going
to
speak
in
general
I.
Those
of
you
who
know
me
and
know
me
well
know
that
I've
been
involved
with
at-risk
children,
abused,
abandoned,
neglected
children
for
over
30
years,
I,
don't
say
much
about
it,
but
I
I'm,
actively
involved
so
I
think
I
have
an
understanding
when
it
when
it
relates
to
the
non-profit
aspect
of
of
agencies,
entities
that
are
trying
to
establish
efforts
to
try
to
reach
out
and
and
help
people
and
look
on
this
list.
K
There
are
a
lot
of
great
organizations
and
a
lot
of
great
people
that
I
would
stamp
in
a
heartbeat
because
I
know
what
they
do.
They've
been
doing
it
for
a
while.
They
have
a
trek
record,
they're
accountable.
They
they
make
a
difference.
We
know
that
there's
some
measurement
there,
I
I,
think
my
general
concern
in
all
this
is
well
I
know.
My
general
concern
in
this
is
over
the
years
we've
gone
from
Maybe
less
than
20
recipients
to
end
the
20s
to
in
the
30s,
and
now
today
we
have
45
recipients
anytime.
K
You
get
spread
out
that
far
number
one
Mr
Brown
I'm
gonna,
ask
you.
That's
a
that's
a
workload
on
you
and
it
starts
to
raise
questions
about.
How
do
you
measure?
How
do
you
keep
everything
where
it
needs
to
be
to
understand?
Really
if
this
money
is
making
a
difference,
it's
not
our
money,
it's
the
taxpayers
dollars
that
they
want
to
see
put
out
there,
but
they
also
hold
this
body
accountable
and
responsible
to
govern
it
and
make
sure
it's
being
done
right.
K
So
you
start
applying
like
the
80
20
rule,
the
35
percent
rule
from
the
Better
Business
Bureau
things
like
that
that
deal
with
non-profits
when
you're
dealing
with
salaries
and
personnel
that
needs
to
be
taken
in
consideration,
because
a
lot
of
these
are
heavily
loaded
on
the
salary
and
Personnel
side.
Now
you've
got
to
pay
taxes.
You
got
to
do
a
lot
of
stuff
with
that
and
that's
the
taxpayers,
money
and
I
think
the
concern
is
that
we
would
like
to
see
more
of
the
support
of
the
funds
go
to
the
direct
needs.
K
I
got
a
principal
in
my
family
that
I
I
do
not
support
the
administration
side.
Anything
I
write
a
check
to
I,
send
it
straight
to
the
need
to
the
children
where
it
is
used,
the
most
where
I
get
the
best
rate
of
return.
That's
Glenn,
Davis,
that's
Glenn,
Davis
family!
That's
why
I
teach
my
children
and
I
would
do.
The
same
thing
here
is
to
make
sure
that
these
taxpayer
funds
are
appropriately
going
through
the
need
of
the
children
and
those
who
need
it,
the
most
not
towards
salaries
and
personnel
and
administration.
K
I
would
ask
in
the
future,
and
even
if
it's
delayed,
I
don't
know
if
y'all
can
go
back
and
have
that
conversation
to
re-look
at
it
and
to
rethink
it
and
to
retool
it
I.
You
know
I'm
not
going
to
get
involved
with
that,
but
I
do
question
and
I
think
going
forward.
If
this
is
the
approach
that
we're
taking
and
moving
to
40.
K
next
year's
are
going
to
be
50
recipients,
I,
don't
know,
but
if
you
are
you're
going
to
have
to
have
a
matrix
you're
going
to
have
to
have
a
measurement
and
you're
going
to
have
to
have
some
criteria
in
place
and
I,
don't
understand
it
be
honest
with
you,
I've
read
through
all
these
and
I.
Don't
see
that
that's
what's
different
from
today
than
in
the
past.
Okay
and
there's
always
counselor
Thomas.
You
remember.
K
There
was
one
year
that
there
was
an
organization
that
was
extremely
heavy
loaded
in
salaries
and
the
organization
you
have
people
making
millions
of
dollars
in
salaries.
Well,
we
asked
the
question
worse.
Well,
we
just
asked
a
question:
where's
the
skin
in
the
game
I
mean
so
you
got
to
have
some
skin
in
the
game.
I'm,
sorry,
but
if
you
really
believe
in
what
you're
doing
and
who
you're
trying
to
help
and
who
you're
trying
to
make
the
difference
to,
then
you
got
to
have
some
skin
the
you
know
I'm
from
Missouri.
K
K
I
think
the
money's
meant
to
go
straight
to
the
need
and
those
other
ancillary
aspects
of
non-profits
and
entities
that
are
out
there
should
be.
There
should
be
work
focused
to
try
to
make
that
happen.
So
I
would
ask
the
board
to
look
at
these
ratios,
not
all
of
them
I'm,
not
saying
all
of
them.
Okay,
but
there
are
some
on
here.
The
ratios
are
out
of
line
I'm,
just
telling
you
from
my
perspective.
K
If
the
citizens
want
to
know
what
I'm
seeing
I'm
being
transparent
as
possible
and
I
think
they
really
need
to
look
at
it.
I'm
not
I,
can't
change
them
at
the
at
the
table
here,
because
that's
not
I
understand
the
rules
and
guidelines
of
of
How
It's
how
this
program's
administered,
but
I,
can
ask
you
to
go
back
and
make
those
necessary
changes.
K
K
Don't
think
anybody
has
seen
this
in
the
last
I
mean
it's
really
been
five
days
since
we've
all
seen
this
of
what
the
decisions
we
don't
go
there
we
stay
a
hands
link
away
and
we
haven't
seen
these
decisions
or
the
requests
for
funds
for
the
approved
recipients.
So
I
I
think
those
are
the
things
that
citizens
want
and
demand
and
if
they
view
this
program
as
being
successful
and
they
want
to
be
successful,
this
is
the
kind
of
stuff
they
want.
E
Yeah,
please
do
what
I'll
say:
counselor
Davis
is
we
don't
fund,
executive,
staffs
or
any
administrative
costs?
The
it's
in
it's
in
the
applications
a
lot
of
times
what
you'll
see
with
some
of
these
applications
they
send
in
their
entire
budget,
like
if
you
were
to
look
at
the
YMCA.
It's
a
two
million
dollar
budget
I
think
we
don't
fund
anything
inside
that
normal
YMCA
programming.
E
We
fund
the
actual
program
that
is
dealing
with
the
children,
so
when
you
see
any
kind
of
cost
going
towards
Personnel,
it's
the
Educators
that
are
specifically
in
contact
with
those
people
like
we
deal
with
true
Springs,
we
deal
with
and
I'm
just
throwing
some
out
better
Works
Columbus.
They
have
Educators
that
are
specifically
dealing
with
those
individuals.
Now
we
fund
those
salaries
or
it's
not
really
a
salary.
E
It's
more
like
an
hourly
wage,
because
they're
they're
the
instructors
without
them
the
program
doesn't
exist,
but
as
far
as
it
like
administrative
costs
are
overhead,
like
we
have
people
turn
in
like
they'll
put
in
their
budget,
you
know
like
cable
fees
or
Wi-Fi
fees
or
that
kind
of
stuff
we
don't
fund.
Any
of
that.
We
have
funded
for
the
boxwood
rec
center
was
one
of
them
material
costs
like
the
computers
they
use,
laptops
and
stuff
like
that.
Well,
they
didn't
have
them.
E
E
Those
are
not
funded
through
this
office
and
also
you'll
see
that
if
they
request
a
lot
of
times
you'll
see
some
you'll
see
some
outrageous
numbers
requested,
but
it's
necessary
in
some
cases
like
the
Columbus
Tech
I
mean
their
application
was
400
000.
Well,
obviously,
we
can't
fund
four
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
it
was
this
year.
I
think
it's
35
last
year
was
55.,
so
it's
not.
It
doesn't
even
come
close
to
what
some
of
them
are
asking
and
some
of
them
are
asked
for
a
very
small
amount.
E
K
Brown
I
looked
perhaps
the
way
you
organize.
Your
information
and
report
to
us
might
be
done
a
little
bit
better
because.
E
K
Read
it
as
personnel
and
salaries,
if
you
want
to
break
it
down,
that
might
be
a
better
thing,
but
you
know,
according
to
the
IRS
rules
and
regulations,
that's
exactly
what
this
is.
That's
how
you
have
it
listed.
Not
all
of
them
are
like
that.
So
I,
don't
know
what
you
just
told
me,
but
I
know
what
I'm
reading
and
I
know
what
it
says,
because
it's
right
here,
personnel,
and
that
is
salaries.
M
K
Is
that
there
needs
to
be
a
appropriate
percentage
on
that?
We
don't
know
what
that
is.
We
don't
know
what
your
Matrix
is.
That's
my
whole
point.
You
know
the
Better
Business
Bureau
says
35
I'm
more
in
line
with
the
80
20
rule
you're
familiar
with
those
right.
Yes,
okay,
well
I'm,
just
telling
you
some
of
these
are
45,
plus
percent
I.
Think
I.
Think.
K
Mr
Brown's
question
and
that's
all
I'm
asking
for
so
perhaps
that's
a
suggestion
that
you
can
go
back
and
better
report,
your
information,
because
that's
how
we're
seeing
it
now,
when
all
these
requests
for
funding
for
recipients
and
and
like
I,
said
when
I
started,
that's
part
of
the
problem
is
it's
getting
Broad
and
wide,
and
it's
going
to
open
the
door
for
more
questions.
I
mean
you've
got
to
that's.
Just
that's
going
to
happen.
K
Yes,
and
actually,
like
I,
said
it's
going
to
make
your
work
tougher
and
the
demand
is
going
to
be
tougher
on
you.
So
I
think
the
board
I'm
just
asking
for
the
board
to
go
back
and
reflect
on
that.
That's
all
I'm
asking.
L
Your
concerns
are
valid
and
we
welcome
someone
from
the
sheriff's
department
on
the
board
because
we
table
that
until
next
year,
because
we
have
people
we've
already
awarded
These
funds
to
and
I
can
tell
you
that
me
and
Danny
Aaron
sibo.
We
go
out
to
these
events
that
they
put
on
I
can
give
you
one
of
20
that
I've
been
to
just
to
see
how
they
work
and
they're
doing
their
job.
So
we're
not
we're
not
paying
any
salaries
and
I,
don't
know
how
it
was
written
up.
But
we
are.
L
I
don't
make
my
decisions
based
off
what
Joyce
Fitzpatrick
feels
I
go
and
I
talk
to
people
in
my
organization
and
in
law
enforcement
to
see
what
we
can
do
better
and
if
there's
an
organization
that
we
need
to
look
at,
that,
we
need
to
go
ahead
and
start
trying
to
help
fund
those
people.
Now
we're
not
giving
them
all
the
monies
that
they're
asking
for.
L
L
Give
us
a
three-minute
presentation
of
what
your
your
organization
is
doing
and
that
way
we
got
a
better
feel
of
how
we
were
going
to
award
those
monies,
and
you
got
people
sitting
here
today,
but
we've
awarded
those
funds
to
who
came
here
to
get
their
confirmation
and
it's
not
fair
to
them
and
I.
Think
if
we're
going
to
add
some
people
to
it,
it's
unfortunate
that
Miss
Floyd
passed.
She
was
very
dear
to
us.
Her
husband
was
a
Sheriff
Deputy
and
she
got
input
from
him.
L
So
when
she
died,
we
had
to
keep
the
train
moving.
We
could
not
stop.
We
had
everything
in
motion.
You
couldn't
put
that
toothpaste
back
in
the
tube
because
it
was
already
out.
We
had
already
started
the
process
and
these
people
were
waiting
on
their
funds.
So
when
that
happened,
we
said
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
forward
and
we'll
fear
that
position.
We
had
no
idea
that
this
would
stop
the
process
and
it's
not
fair
to
the
people
who
have
already
been
awarded
this.
L
If
we
want
to
do
it
for
2024
by
all
means,
add
another
person
from
Public
Safety.
But
what
you
just
said
is
that
we
have
people
from
the
school
district.
It's
not
the
superintendent
necessarily,
but
we
don't
have
all
the
teachers
there
either.
This
the
organization
itself
is
here
to
represent
the
people
in
the
community
and
that's
what
we've
been
doing
for
the
last
few
years
and
I
think
it's
unfair
to
ask
us
to
go
back
and
start
over,
because
we
had
a
death
in
our
on
our
board.
And
that's
that's.
I
You
know
when
I
was
chair
of
Public
Safety
advisory.
Commission
I
spoke
with
Seth
joysticks.
My
biggest
frustration
was
the
budget.
Wasn't
big
enough
I
feel
like
when
I
looked
at
the
ROI.
The
the
benefits
outweigh
the
costs
and
I
just
wish
the
budget
was
bigger,
I
mean
I
I'm
going
to
vote.
I
would
want
to
vote
to
approve
it.
As
is
we've.
We've
got
input
into
the
crime
prevention
board.
I
We've
got
to
empower
them
to
do
their
job
happy
to
support,
adding
someone
new
and
if
they
come
back
and
say
Hey,
you
missed
this
crime
prevention
area.
We
can
look
at
adding
it
because
we're
still
not
fulfilling
our
promise
to
spend
two
million
dollars
a
year.
Like
we
told
us,
we
told
the
citizens
years
ago
we're
still
only
spending
750,
so
I'm
I
I'm
going
to
vote
for
it
to
go,
as
is
happy
to
add
to
the
board,
but
that's
I
feel
like
they've
they've
done
their
job.
I
If
we
have
specific
questions
happy
to,
let
them
address
those
specific
questions.
Okay,.
N
I
think
some
of
this
question's
getting
distracted
because
the
question
before
us
is
whether
or
not
this
board
was
capable
of
making
decisions
they
made
and
they
had
a
quorum
every
meeting,
whether
somebody
passed
away
or
not,
and
the
outcome
would
not
have
been
changed
to
me-
that
it
makes
it
very
narrow
question
and
we
don't
need
to
slow
down
the
process.
N
We
can
change
it
for
next
year
to
make
it
better,
but
I
certainly
don't
want
to
reinvent
the
wheel
on
this,
because
one
person
passed
away
and
even
if
somebody
had
not
passed
away,
I
mean
if
there
was
a
a
you
know,
eight
to
nine
Vote
or
whatever
the
Quorum
may
be.
You
know
that
would
still
be
the
decision
of
the
board.
So
that's
I
just
wanted
to
keep
this.
If
they're
questions
about
organizations,
that's
one
thing,
but
this
is
about
whether
or
not
the
board
as
a
whole
was
adequate.
J
That's
a
good
point.
Thank
you
all
right,
no
further
lights,
indicating
a
council
which
speaks
I
believe
and
by
the
way
the
mayor,
Pro
Tim,
is
joining
us
virtually.
He
is
he's
out
of
town
today,
but
he
will
be
able
to
to
register
his
vote.
So
the
motion
as
I
understand
it
was
to
delay
indefinitely
mayor.
F
J
F
Think
I
believe
that
we
could
limit
it
to
delay
for
one
month,
because
I
believe
that
counselor
Tucker
has
a
nomination
to
fill
that
empty
seat
and
I
believe
that
the
sheriff
is
in
and
he
has
a
recommendation.
F
He
has
a
recommendation
that
we
can
approve
and
I'm
thinking
that
the
recommendation
that
would
come
from
the
sheriff
would
be
similar
to
that
of
on
the
boards,
the
hospital
board
and
the
what's
the
other
one
airport
where
they
recommend
somebody
for
that
board,
and
then
we
we
do
the
nominating
for
it
and
so
I
I.
Don't
believe
that
it
was
going
to
be
delayed.
That
long,
because
we
have
nominees
in
line
to
take
it
and
we
would
just
have
to
move
it
through
the
process
and
they
would
be
there
and
I
I.
F
F
If
that's
the,
if
that's
the
situation,
I
mean
I,
I
work
on
commission
and
so
some
some
months
I,
you
know
my
family
has
a
very
large
income
some
months
that
income
is
much
lower.
So
I
know
that
when
the
income
is
lower,
then
I
don't
get
to
buy
as
many
things
and
so
what,
when
I'm
thinking
that,
maybe
possibly
the
board
would
consider,
is
that
maybe
the
board
doesn't
have
the
funds
for
this
many
groups
to
support
I'm,
not
you
know,
I'm,
not
leading
you
in
any
way
whatsoever.
F
F
Use
caution
and
when
I'm
spending
their
their
tax
dollars,
and
so
I
just
feel
strongly
about
that,
and
so
I
would
like
you
guys
to
just
kind
of
maybe
re
rethink
and
look
it
over
a
little
bit
more
and
then
have
more
input
from
two
new
members.
O
A
couple
of
points
before
you
take
the
boat,
the
whether
you
delay
this
or
not
hit
a
couple
of
procedural
points.
One
you
can
fill
the
vacancy
now
if
you
have
a
nomination
and
a
person
to
fill
that
seat,
but
you
cannot
enlarge
the
board
membership
without
changing
the
ordinance
which
could
not
happen
at
the
earliest
until
September,
so
you've
got
seven
members
now,
if
you
do
add
to
it
in
the
future,
I
would
recommend
you,
maybe
add
two
members
from
law
enforcement
and
two
members
from
the
education
Community
right
now.
O
J
The
world,
and
because
of
a
lot
of
the
questions
had
been
I've
heard
since
I've
been
here,
I
would
really
hate
to
see
a
change
made
kind
of
is
a
knee-jerk
reaction.
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
meeting
with
the
maybe
even
the
board,
but
certainly
with
the
crime
prevention
director,
and
there
needs
to
be
a
discussion
about
amending
this
ordinance.
That's
been
in
place
since
this
contract
was
struck
with
the
citizens
of
Muskogee
County
I.
J
So
right
now,
right
now,
there's
a
motion
to
it's
been
amended.
I
guess
do
we
need
a
vote
to
amend
that
motion
to.
J
So
there's
there's
a
motion
to
delay
for
30
days
any
more
conversation
to
the
motion:
councilor.
Oh
counselor,
Tucker,
I'm,
sorry
I've
got
a
glare
here.
Yes,.
H
We
do
have
some
great
programs,
one
of
the
things
that
I
actually
looked
at
was
and
I
just
want
to
use
this
as
an
example,
the
100
degree
project
I
think
that's
the
Muscogee
County
School
District
within
their
budget,
and
they
had
a
a
big
budget.
You
all
did
supplies
for
ten
thousand
dollars.
I
think
one
of
the
the
issues
has
been
the
personnel
and
I
know
that,
probably
is
I,
say
the
easiest
way
to
allocate
the
funds.
H
But
if
we
can,
if
you
could
just
go
back
I,
don't
I
don't
want
to
see
I
want
to
see
all
45
individuals
get
something,
but
if
we
can
go
back
and
just
change
that
Personnel,
you
know
go
through
it.
If
that's
possible,
like
I,
know,
that's
a
lot
of
work,
but
in
the
next
30
days
go
back
change
how
you
did
the
allocations
of
funds
to
like
maybe
supplies
or
the
program
it
was
I,
think
it
was
Teen
advisors.
H
Did
it
directly
to
their
program
and
I
have
to
go
through
the
list,
but
you
and
I
know
that
you
all
took
four
months
I'm
trying
to
go
to
your
email
cell.
H
We
got
this
July
31st
to
go
through
all
45
right
right
and
and
to
look
at
all
the
applications.
That's
a
lot
of
information
for
counselors
to
look
at
and
I'm
just
saying
in
July
31st
is
when
we
got
the
list,
the
link
at
4
53
P.M
to
look
at
all
45
applications.
That's
a
problem.
Okay,.
P
H
You
see
where
we
are
right:
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
that,
because
we
got
this
information
on
July
31st
and
we
are
expected
to
look
at
45
applications
and
to
to
see
whether
or
not
this
is
a
good
program-
research,
these
programs-
that's
that's
a
bit
much
for
us!
So
that's
why
we're
asking
for
a
delay,
because
we
only
had
a
few.
What's
today
at
the
eighth
okay.
G
That's
super
beauty
that
is,
is
a
problem
for,
and
that
is
a
conversation
that
absolutely
needs
needs
to
happen.
More
money
absolute
needs
to
happen.
I
wish
we
could
just
divide
all
the
money
divided
by
all
the
programs
that
applied,
but
we
can't
do
that.
Some
some
programs
get
no
money.
Some
programs
get
others,
and
you
know
what
we're
here,
because
y'all
put
us
here,
which
means
your
judgment
relied
on
us
to
be
here.
I.
G
All
appointed
and,
and
so
we
have
to
go
through
these
applications,
so
heavy
and
yes,
absolutely
counselor
Davis
I
promise
you.
If
the
if
the
budget
you
know
for
admin
is
high,
that's
an
instant
red
flag
for
us.
That's
why
you
put
us
here,
because
you
trust
our
judgment
and
we
went
through
these
applications,
one
by
one
painstakingly
and
I'm.
Sorry
that
you
just
were
able
to
get
that
a.
H
E
N
H
H
H
Counsel
and
it's
it's
not
that
it's
political,
if
you
have,
if
you
have
the
ones
that
you
have
approved
in
June,
why
can't
we
see
them
because
it's
organizations
like
teen
advisors
that
have
hundreds
of
kids
that
they
serve
and
they
only
got
ten
thousand
dollars.
You
know
and
I
understand,
but
that's
my
thing.
I'm
I
want
to
see
exactly
what
we
have
prior
to
eight
days.
It
took
eight
days
for
me
to
go
through
45.
E
80
000
at
times
so
there's
a
process
there
and
the
process
that
the
board
goes
through
and
that's
why
they
do
it.
That
was
the
reason
this
board
was
set
up.
The
way
it
was
that
the
board
makes
those
decisions.
Is
they
go
back
I
give
them
a
spreadsheet
of
how
many
years
that
program's
been
funded
and
how
much
and
then
they
go
back
and
start
weeding
those
out
based
on
okay,
they've,
gotten
50
000
this
year,
80
000
this
year,
60
they
don't
need
to
keep
getting
that
kind
of
money.
E
I
would
also
say
with
teen
advisors.
Their
program
is
effective,
but
it
does
not
reach
at
risk.
The
same
way
an
overflow
program
would
I
would.
H
E
Of
disagree,
but
what
teen
advisors
done
and
Derek
would
probably
agree
with
me
on
this.
It
is
a
very
good
program,
but
the
kids
that
are
in
that
program,
they're
good
kids,
already
their
their
Christian
based
they
go
to
church,
they
want
to
volunteer,
and
so
the
theory
behind
teen
advisors
is
is
that
they
take
those
200
kids
in
Carver
and
they
influence
the
other
kids
inside
Parker.
E
Now
you
know
that's
a
long
leap,
it's
a
good
program,
but
it's
not
as
effective
as
better
Works
Columbus
or
a
whatever
that's,
also
where
the
board
comes
in.
They
have
to
take
that
program
and
say:
okay,
look!
What
good
is
this
program
doing
for
the
city
of
Columbus,
as
opposed
to
this
program?
They're,
not
saying
they're
bad
programs
they're
trying
to
figure
out
which
one's
going
to
give
the
biggest
impact
bang
for
the
buck,
because
they
are
limited
funds
and
there
are
a
number
of
programs
that
we
have
to
work
with
and.
H
H
E
E
H
Next
week,
well,
yeah
well,
as
I
said,
I
like
the
45
I,
just
the
Personnel
is
counselor
Davis
mentioned.
If
we
can
go
back
and.
H
Yeah
I
I
love
the
45
that's
listed.
If
we
can
just
go
back
and
tweak
where
it
says,
personnel
and
probably
just
just
change
and
see
whatever
dollars
you
can
give
to.
You
know
whatever
program
like
just
break
it
down,
because
we
we
don't
know
if
you
see
what
we
you
saw,
what
we
see
based
on
what
you
submitted
right
versus.
What's
in
that
application,
which
is
a
toned
of
you,
know,
items
if
we
could,
if
you
could
just
explain
what
that
is
within
that
Personnel,
that's.
E
E
J
You
and
Council
Tucker
brought
up
a
number
of
good
points,
but
not
the
least
of
which
is
Council.
Counselors
are
going
to
get
to
catch.
The
brunt
I
mean
that's
who
people
call,
but
the
tough
part
about
that
is.
Is
that
there's
no
way
for
Council
to
be
familiar
with
every
one
of
these
programs
that
they
bring
and
you're
not
going
to
get
familiar
by
spending
a
week
or
two
or
three
or
a
month,
reading
the
program?
So
what
happens
is
when
we
look
at
them?
We
go
well.
I
know
that
program.
J
K
Yes,
mayor,
Nancy
Wright,
it's
again
having
that
Matrix
and
the
guidelines
is
so
important
to
give
guidance
to
the
members
that
over
the
years
will
change,
but
look
in
general
again
and
we'll
say
that
that
it's
going
to
be
extremely
difficult
to
delay.
45
requests,
okay,
it
just
is
even
though
we've
got
I,
think
we've
got
some
valid
questions
and
concerns
and
we're
trying
that's
our
job
is
to
relay
them.
K
This
is
our
opportunity
to
because
it's
being
put
before
us
I
hope
people
realize
that
there's
so
many
good
organizations
on
here
and
I
know
they're
doing
good
work.
Okay
and
I
wouldn't
want
to
you
know
somewhat
perceived
as
penalized
or
slow
them
down,
but
there's
some
other
ones
that
I've
cut
some
questions
about
at
the
same
time,
but
I
can't
sit
here
and
go
through
every
one.
Now,
mayor,
I'll
tell
you
in
the
past
how
this
has
worked.
K
How
this
has
worked.
Is
you
go
down
through
the
process?
Councilor
Thomas
Craig.
If
I'm
wrong,
I
mean
that's
putting
before
us
to
approve,
but
you
can
you
don't
have
to
prove
any
of
them
or
you
can
pull
them
off?
The
list
and
question
them
that's
going
to
be
a
that's
going
to
take
some
time.
You
know
when
you
got
45
recipient
requests
here
that
that
are
are
asking
to
be
approved.
K
I
will
also
say
that
keep
in
mind
everybody
talks
about
the
limited
amount
of
funds
we
we
got
a
half
a
million
dollars
and
cure
violence,
which
is
crime
prevention.
Nobody
talks
about
that.
We've
got
several
programs
in
the
Sheriff's
Office
and
police
department
that
we
fund
this
city
funds,
so
many
crime
prevention
programs.
It's
not
just
this
program.
So
when
people
talk
about
just
this
program
needs
more
fun.
You
got
to
look
at
the
big
picture
of
everything
involved.
That's
a
huge
investment
just
that
half
a
million
dollars.
That's
a
lot!
K
So
I
want
people
to
understand
that
that
we
are
investing
in
our
community
and
trying
to
make
a
difference
both
in
prevention
and
in
law
enforcement.
Trying
to
do
both
sides
of
it.
But
one
of
the
I
think
what
I
presented
here
is
the
opportunity
to
go
by
the
board
to
have
a
conversation.
I
think
you
need
to
have
a
conversation
and
understand
some
and
possibly
make
some
adjustments
in
some
of
the
guidelines,
because
one
of
the
big
things
that
really
strikes
me
when
I
look
at
this
and
you
talk
about
more
and
more
recipients.
K
But
you
got
to
really
look
at
the
ratios.
You
got
to
look
at
the
dollars
of
funding
to
actually
those
that
you're
serving
because
I
could
question
it
that
there's
some
that
serve
500
plus
to
a
thousand
people
that
are
getting
very
limited
funds
where
you've
got
some
that
are
supporting
10
that
are
getting
far
more
than
the
500
000..
K
Now
you've
got
to
figure
that
I
mean
you
know
that
doesn't
make
sense
when
you
add
it
up
and
those
ratios
have
to
be
under
understood
and
it
should
go
into
the
guidelines
and
decision
making,
because
if
you
somebody's
out
there
making
a
difference
in
500
or
1000,
kids
I
would
think
that
they
deserve
a
little
more
funding,
because
that's
a
big
operation,
that's
a
big
that
that's
just
a
big
effort
and-
and
that
strikes
me
strange
too,
with
the
ratio
so
director
Brown,
I,
hope,
you're.
K
Taking
notes
some
of
the
points
I
can
say
that
to
you
today,
but
it's
like
I,
said
it's
going
to
be
difficult
to
to
cherry
pick
or
pull
some
of
these
or
to
to
slow
down
this
effort.
So
mayor.
Q
K
N
J
B
Mr
Mayor
I
think
that
we
may
have
lost
some
of
our
Direction
here.
The
board.
The
crime
prevention
board
was
established
to
go
through
these
applications,
all
of
the
applications
to
look
at
them
to
analyze
them
to
weigh
them
and
then
to
make
a
recommendation
to
this
Council.
B
If
we
have
questions
about
the
grant
to
be
able
to
ask
director
brown
or
the
chair
of
the
board
about
our
questions
to
get
them
answered,
if
we
are
not
pleased
with
the
answers,
if
we,
if
the
answer
does
not
satisfy
our
concern,
we
have
the
authority
to
pull
that
application
off
the
list
and
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
perhaps
you
as
as
board
members
and
the
general
public.
We
got
this
list
last
Wednesday
at
five
o'clock.
B
B
We've
not
gotten
it
early,
we've
not
gotten
it
three
or
four
weeks
early,
so
we
could
look
at
it,
but
this
Council
I,
think
you
have
seen
are
taking
a
more
active
part
in
looking
at
each
one
of
these
grants
on
whether
or
not
it's
it
meets
the
criteria
and
so
I
think.
If
we
can
delay
this
I
don't
know.
30
days
seems
like
a
lot
until
our
next
meeting,
two
weeks
or
whatever,
so
that
that
the
council
can
look
at
the
applications.
Look
at
the
the
grant,
notices.
B
B
That's
that's!
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
to
get
it
right.
I,
don't
think
anybody
around
this
table
wants
to
cut
somebody's
funding.
What
we
want
to
do
is
to
make
sure
that
we're
giving
the
right
organization
the
right
amount
of
funding
and,
if
you'll,
give
us
if
you'll
just
give
us
some
time
and
then
maybe
next
year.
B
Next
time
you
come
to
us
with
these
grants
will
have
more
than
a
week
to
take
a
look
at
them
and
not
to
do
your
job
for
you
we're
not.
R
I
mean
I
was
Judy
basically
summed
up,
but
I
was
just
gonna
say
of
that.
We
we
appreciate
what
you're
doing
and,
and
we
value
what
you're
doing
we
just
are
just.
We
can
address
the
board
issues
at
a
later
date
in
September,
but
we
just
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
this
right.
The
first
time
and
I
mean
I
support,
Judy's
question.
J
All
right
there's
a
motion
on
the
table
to
delay
for
30
days,
the
disbursement
of
the
funds
and
moving
on.
Is
there
any
other
discussion
all
right,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
any
post,
all
right
all
those
in
favor.
Please
raise
your
right
hand,
one
two.
Three
four.
J
J
I
we
did
Mr
Brown,
that's
I
thought
y'all
had
already
done
that
before
I.
P
J
Here,
I
apologize,
so
if,
if
we
do,
if
you
would
just
run
through
the
do
what
now
well,
if
we
could,
if
for
those
of
you
that
are
leaving
we,
we
have
not
gone
through
these,
it's
my
fault,
I
thought
we
had
already
done
that
before
I
got
here,
so
they're
going
to
go
through
every
one
of
these
real
quickly
and
give
I
don't
know
if
it
was
necessary
now
but
give
Council
an
opportunity
to
pull
one
get
some
more
questions
asked
and
then
they'll
walk
through
it.
J
They
don't
pull
them.
I.
Think
where
we
are
right
now
is
that
there's
been
no
action
taken
on
a
delay
because
it
was
an
inconclusive
vote.
We
did
advertise
it
we
and
tell
people
we
were
going
to
go
through
and
let
them
know
which
which
programs
were
going
to
be
funded,
not
in
detail.
Unless
anybody
had
a
question.
If
there
is
no
question
not
enough
information,
I
anticipate.
This
will
just
be
fulfilling
our
commitment
on
the
agenda
to
go
through
those
items.
K
J
K
Mayor
I,
I'm,
perceiving
this
will
be
back
soon
so
or
in
30
days.
I.
Think
that's
what
has
been
requested
director
Brown,
like
we
talked
about
here's
an
opportunity
to
clean
these
numbers
up
a
little
bit
and
break
them
down.
That
would
help
me
and
I
think
it's
appropriate.
So
maybe
this
little
delay
would
allow
you
to
do
that
and
I
think
that
would
go
a
long
ways
in
you
know
in
this
little
time
frame
that
the
councils
had
to
work
with
with
the
number
of
requests
so
his
work.
E
J
E
J
K
J
J
It's
is
it
done
by
ordinance,
it's
not
done
by
ordinance.
It's
done
by
resolution,
no
I'm,
not
bringing
it
back.
So
you
waiting
30
days,
I'm,
not
waiting,
30
days,
I'm
waiting
if
Council
has
a
direction
that
they
would
like
to
implement
when
we
come
back
in
on
the
22nd,
that's
fine
we're
following
the
the
order
of
the
agenda
and
the
Order
of
what
we're
we're
doing
with
this
particular
item.
Well,.
K
K
Y'all,
maybe
sitting
down
with
your
your
board
leadership,
would
would
would
help
as
well.
E
K
E
Just
want
those
Personnel
numbers
broken.
U
E
Right,
the
first
one
is
the
180
180
degree
project
for
10.
000.
second,
is
better
work.
Columbus
for
20
000.
next
is
Big
Brother
Big
Sister
for
ten
thousand
next
is
Boys
and
Girls
Club
for
ten
thousand.
E
Next
is
Boys
to
Men,
for
twenty
five
thousand
one
is
building
Wellness
for
fifteen
thousand.
Next
is
Children
First
for
ten
thousand.
Next
is
Clement
arts
for
fifteen
thousand
next
is
Columbus
Community
Center
for
thirty
thousand
next
is
Columbus
Community
Orchestra
for
five
thousand
next
is
Columbus.
Dream
Center
for
twenty
thousand
next
is
Columbus
museum
for
ten
thousand
next
is
Columbus
Scholars
for
ten
thousand.
E
Next
is
quarter
for
twenty
thousand
Nexus
Columbus
Symphony
Orchestra
for
five
thousand
next
is
Columbus
Technical
College
for
thirty
five
thousand
next
is
East
Carver
Heights
for
twenty
thousand
next
is
Emmanuel
prep
for
five
thousand
next
is
flourishing.
Ladies
for
thirty,
five
thousand
next
is
focus
program
for
thirty
thousand.
Next
is
Girls
Inc
for
ten
thousand
next
is
Hope
Harbor
for
fifteen
thousand.
Next
is
legitimation
station
for
fifteen
thousand
next
is
LifeBridge
for
twenty
thousand.
E
Next
is
Literacy
Alliance
for
twenty
thousand
next
is
Micah's
promise
for
twenty
thousand
next
is
neighborhoods
focused
on
African
American.
Youth
for
twenty
thousand
next
is
Omega
Lambda
for
twenty
five
thousand
next
is
open
door
for
fifteen
thousand.
Next
is
Overflow
for
fifteen
thousand.
Next
is
Protege
project.
For
ten
thousand
next
is
the
reach
project
for
fifteen
thousand.
Next
is
right
from
the
start,
for
fifteen
thousand.
E
Next
is
second
chance
for
fifty
thousand
next
is
service
for
Humanity,
for
ten
thousand
next
is
steam
Expo
for
ten
thousand
next,
the
steam
project
for
ten
thousand
next
is
teen
advisors
for
ten
thousand
next
is
true
springs
for
twenty
five
thousand
next
is
turn
around
Columbus
for
twenty
five
thousand.
Next
is
whole
person
for
ten
thousand.
Next
is
Right
Fitness
for
ten
thousand
next
is
YMCA
for
ten
thousand
and
the
last
one
is
jungle,
light
for
fifteen
thousand.
J
Okay,
councilor
kogel.
R
R
E
And,
what's
going
to
happen,
though,
is
like
the
legitimation
station?
That's
a
perfect
example.
The
only
thing
we
pay
for
is
Ed
Barry.
He
does
the
legal
work.
I,
don't
know
how
you
want
me
to
classify
that
besides
Personnel
That's,
What,
It,
Is,
Well.
R
If
I
mean,
if
we
can
make
it,
if
we
can
make
that
adjust,
if
you
can
make
those
adjustments
that
councilor
Davis
talked
about
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
put
this
back
on
the
agenda
for
next
week,
so
that
we
can
work
through
that.
D
O
J
H
J
I
Guess
I
don't
understand
if,
if
city
council
has
specific
issues
about
specific
wines,
why
can't
we
just
say
carve
those
outs
and
we'll
revisit
those
next
session,
but
for
the
others,
let's
go
ahead
and
prove
today
get
everyone
moving
forward,
and
so
the
discussion
next
time
is
a
much
more
focused
discussion.
So,
if
you're
concerned
about
personnel
with
a
legitimate.
I
I
J
I
miss
them.
Do
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
it.
I
J
J
J
J
F
You
know
these
decisions,
you
know
of
which
ones
you
know,
which
ones
are
the
you
know
what
they're
supposed
to
be
bringing
to
us
and
not
I
felt
that
we
were
supposed
to
do
this
as
a
body
and
now
I
do
know
that
in
the
past
we
have
pulled
some
of
them,
but
one
on
one
and
going
through
this
process.
That
is
what
this
whole.
This
whole
thing
was
made
to
prevent
us
from
doing
in
my
am
I
wrong.
That.
F
F
Started
was,
and
this
and
please
understand
this
I
started
this
whole
conversation
Danny
with
showing
you
guys,
respect
for
everything
that
you
do
and
this
body
does
respect
what
you've
done.
Please
respect
what
we
have
to
do.
That's
all
we're
asking.
We
want
to
approve
this,
but
we
have.
We
have
to
have
feel
that
in
our
hearts
and
sometimes
that
just
takes
a
little
bit
more
time
on
our
part.
In
order
to
do
that,
you
know
you
where
we
are
given.
You
know
an
you
know,
hand
thumbs
up
or
thumbs
down.
F
F
That's
what
I'm
asking
for
it.
That's
why
I
asked
for
extra
time.
Evidently
others
didn't
agree
with
me,
but
you
know
what
it
does.
It
puts
five
of
us
in
the
position
that,
if
we
have
to
vote
on
this
today,
because
we
could
continue
to
have
more
questions
than
we,
what
are
we
forced
to
do?
We
might
have
to
vote
no
on
some
of
these
programs
that
we
definitely
agree
with
and
support,
and
so
that's
all
we're
asking
here.
G
F
G
J
Let's
try
to
get
a
little
bit
of
order
back
in
here,
because
the
board
and
I
need
to
run
the
board
they
serve
at
the
pleasure
of
counsel.
Absolutely
so,
if
Council
determines
that
they're
not
getting
the
information
they
want
from
the
board,
it
is
up
to
council
to
try
to
make
some
changes
on
the
board.
That's.
D
V
J
I
Q
Yeah
we've
had
a
discussion
and
it
was
not
enough
votes
to
delay
today
so
with
what
council
of
Begley
is
trying
to
do.
We
need
to
go
back
to
our
normal
procedure
and
normal
procedure
is,
if
you
don't
have
the
votes
to
delay
it,
then
we
make
a
motion
to
approve
which
I'm
willing
to
do
and
move
forward
and
just
like
we
do
the
city
manager's
agenda.
Q
If
you
want
something
pull
up,
pull
it,
you
have
questions
you
got
two
weeks
a
month
or
so
to
work
on
it,
but
there's
no
sense
in
holding
all
of
this
up
for
that
purpose.
So
I
moved
to
a
move,
I
move
to
move
forward,
and
if
someone
wants
to
pull
one,
then
pull
it
all
right
on
all
45
and
if
some,
if
a
council
person
wants
to
pull
one,
then
let
them.
J
Is
there
a
second
to
that?
There
is
a
second
to
that
motion.
If
there's
any
conversation
to
the
motion,
which
would
include
pulling
or
holding
back
on
one
or
two
will
will
entertain
those
counselor
crab.
F
One
of
the
reasons
why
I
wanted
to
delay
was
to
to
add
another
member
to
the
board,
so
I
mean
we
can
do
that.
We
can.
We
can
go
ahead
and
vote
vote
for
these
and
then
the
second
motion
that
I
was
going
to
make.
Then
we
can
start
dealing
with.
You
know
those
changes
to
this
board
in
order
to
empower
it
and-
and
so.
K
All
right,
Mr
Mayor,
thank
you.
I
I
realize
what
my
colleagues
knew
of
doing
this.
But
let
me
let
me
just
say
anyone
on
here:
I'm
gonna,
make
a
motion
that
any
request
is
listed
under
with
personnel
to
be
pulled
any.
That
is
not
we
can
approve,
and
then
that
gives
us
time
to
go
back
and
and
Seth
you
got.
We
asked
you
to
go
back
and
do
some
work
and
look
at
and
we
can
determine
it
at
that
point.
E
K
K
K
To
seek
different
type
of
funding
like
your
legitimation
station,
we
may
look
at
that
as
bringing
in
under
judicial
branch
and
funding
it
through
that
through
the
budget
we
may
not
have
to
fund
it
here,
which
would
bring
in
the
opportunity
for
another
organization
to
come
in.
We
just
need
to
understand
that
a
little
bit
better
and
and
that's
what
the
delay
the
reason
I
support.
The
delay
is
because
I
think
figured
in
two
weeks:
I
can
get
with
you
and
understand
this
a
little
bit
better.
J
Well,
there
is
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
floor
to
approve
all
of
the
items.
Is
there
any
other
discussion
to
that
motion?
Are
you
talking
about
motion
I
just
made?
No
sir
I'm
talking
about
the
motion
to
counselor
Huffman
and
counselor
Garrett
seconded
so
hearing
no
further
discussion.
All
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye:
are
there
any
opposed
all
right,
then
those
items
are
approved.
H
Director
Brown,
can
you
please
send
Council
a
breakdown
of
the
Personnel
cost
for
all
of
the
ones
that
are
listed,
that
say,
personnel
and,
and
that
was
the
thing
really
was
to
understand
what
what's
in
the
grant
like?
What's
the
breakdown
we
we
don't
and
when
I
and
when
I
say
that,
because
I
heard
assistant
chief
Joyce,
then
fist
pressure
say
what's
the
Personnel,
so
it
just
States
and
the
budget
like
what
we
see
is
just
say
for
better
work,
which
is
a
great
program.
H
H
And
the
one
for
teen
advisor
said
it
had
a
program.
You
know
it
actually
had
what
the
I
think
it
was
a
ignite
program.
H
L
H
I've
received,
like
15
text
messages
from
citizens
that
are
watching
this
right
now.
They
said
that
this
program
started
in
2009.
We
have
not
went
through
and
looked
at.
You
know
the
process
or
had
any
conversations
or,
like
you
said,
a
work
session
about
you
know
what
we're
doing
and
how
we're
allocating
funds.
H
Some
people
were
saying
that
it
was
getting
out
of
hand.
You
know
that
we're
mismanaging
funds
and
I
mean
I've
been
getting
text
messages
the
whole
time
from
different
citizens.
You
know
throughout
the
city,
but
when
you
break
it
down,
it
helps
us
to
explain
to
the
citizens
that
are
asking
us
questions,
because
I
can't
I
can't
answer
any
question
when
you
send
Personnel,
you
know
when
you're
paying
somebody
eleven
thousand
dollars
for
a
Personnel
cost,
and
it's
only
one
person,
that's
managing
the
program.
H
I
mean
how
do
I
explain
that,
to
you
know
a
citizen
right,
because
the
only
thing
they're
doing
is
looking
at
okay,
we're
we're
just
giving,
and-
and
this
is
the
words
that
I've
heard
I
heard
the
city
is
a
cash
cow.
It's
a
slush
fund
that
this
is
a
money
grab.
These
are
all
the
conversations
that
we're
hearing
and
that
I
mean
it's
really.
It's
really
hard
because
I'm
like
no
we're
doing
good
things,
but
they're.
H
H
Listen
I
do
know
that,
because
in
2014
myself
and
councilor,
Huff
was
the
ones
because
they
weren't
getting
any
money
and
they
closed
down
south
of
Gerard,
the
one,
the
one
girls
ain't
that
my
daughter
was
attending
right
and
those
kids
raised
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
30
days
to
keep
their
their
Center
open
and
they
still
closed
so
I
know
what
these
funds
do
for
our
kids,
my
daughter
and
I'm,
a
military
veteran,
a
lot
of
military
veterans,
but
guess
what
we
stay
in
District
Four
and
that's
low
income
and
it's
a
lot
I
hear
gunshots
every
day,
but
when
you
close
a
center
where
we
can
fund
something,
that's
really
gonna
like
you
were
saying
that
this
don't
do
impact.
H
Yes,
it
does.
Yes,
it
does
so
that's
the
main
thing.
I
look
at
impact
and
I
know:
Dr
Rocky,
March
know
about
measurable
outcomes.
You
know
looking
at.
What's
what's
really
going
to
make
an
impact
and
that's
what
these
citizens
are
concerned
about?
What's
going
to
make
a
true
impact
to
Crime,
we
don't
have
not
one
program
that
deal
which,
with
juveniles
and
DJJ
yeah
we
do.
We.
J
H
J
Yeah
we
need
to
we
need
to.
We
need
to
move
on,
we'll
have
a
follow-up
conversation
with
this,
but
but
I
can
tell
you
this
again
and
I
respect
Council
Tucker's
passion
on
this,
but
that's
the
challenge,
because,
when
counselors
are
personally
and
intimately
aware
of
and
familiar
with
a
program,
it's
hard
for
them
to
see
in
black
and
white
that
that
program
may
not
be
getting
the
funding
that
others
are
and-
and
unfortunately
that
was
the
original
intent
of
the
board
is
to
try
to
keep
some
of
that.
J
K
Director
Brown
I
guess
you've
been
giving
your
directive,
but
look:
let's
still
have
that
conversation
because
I
think
what
you?
What
you
heard
today
is
the
valid
concerns
of
the
council.
It's
not
these
counsel.
It's
from
the
citizens
like
that's
that
we
hear
from,
and
we
need
to
address
some
of
those
things
and
then
y'all
can
take
them
back.
We've
got
members
of
the
board
here,
they've
heard
too
they've
heard
the
concerns.
K
They're
all
valid
I
think
we
would
all
put
them
in
the
ballot
category
and
then
you
can
go
back
and
take
a
look
at
it.
So
let's
still
have
that
conversation
I
think
we
can
get
it
done.
I
guess
you
know
where
we're
at
now.
We
can
do
it.
We
can
do
both
so
and
if
there
are
some
questions,
I
think
this
is
just
an
annual
program
anyway
yeah
and
it's
administered.
So
some
of
those
issues
quite
possibly
can
be
addressed
along
the
road
throughout
the
year.
Very.
J
M
Mr
manager,
mayor
Sheriff
Countryman,
has
an
11
o'clock
meeting
and
he's
on
my
agenda
for
an
update.
If
the
the
council
would
consider
allowing
Sheriff
countrymen
to
come
up
I'm
sure
he
would
appreciate.
M
W
So
good
morning,
mayor
and
Council,
the
sheriff
is
here
today
to
request
additional
funding.
Well
path.
Who
is
the
vendor
that
provides
inmate,
Medical
Care
at
the
jail
has
submitted
a
letter
of
requesting
an
amendment
to
their
contract.
They
submitted
that
letter
in
April
they're
having
issues
with
providing
Staffing
at
the
jail
at
the
level
that
they
had
submitted
in
their
original
proposal
and
contract.
Due
to
the
issue
of
attracting
medical
providers
to
the
facility,
they
have
requested
an
increase
to
their
contract.
W
We
have
been
in
discussions
with
the
Sheriff's
Office
and
with
the
vendor
since
April,
and
so
today
we
are
here
to
the
sheriff
is
here
to
make
a
request
for
that
additional
funding.
If
the
contract
is
not
amended,
the
provider
has
indicated
that
they
will
exit
at
the
end
of
this
month.
So
I'll,
let
the
sheriff
kind
of
speak
to
the
specifics
of
the
vendor
and
our
willingness,
or
or
wanting
to
keep
them
at
the
jail
as
the
provider.
X
Welcome
Sheriff
good
morning,
mayor
council,
student
manager,
City
attorney
Deputy
city
manager,
Pam
Hodge,
pretty
much
nailed
it
on
the
head
that
we
do
have
a
medical
contract
provider
that
has
issued
us
a
letter
to
opt
out
of
our
two-year
contract.
The
contract
is
not
up
until
next
year.
This
is
the
second
medical
provider
that
we've
had
the
first
medical
provider.
X
I
asked
that
we
opt
out
of
the
contract
due
to
their
lack
of
service
and
in
the
quality
of
service
that
they
were
providing.
We
have
a
pretty
good
medical
contract
with
with
well
path,
but
they
have
issued
us
a
letter
to
opt
out
of
the
contract.
X
They've
had
issues
retaining
personnel,
and
this
is
just
not
for
our
jail,
but
this
is
the
Nationwide
epidemic
that
in
the
medical
field,
that
is
hard
for
for
medical
providers
to
retain
medical
workers
and
on
average
that
I'll
give
you
the
example
that
some
nurses
may
make
35
or
40
an
hour
over
the
course
of
this
contract.
They've
had
to
provide
travel,
nurses
and
travel
nurses
make
around
125
dollars
an
hour,
and
so
we've
asked
them
to
also
provide
suicide
watch
in
our
contract,
and
so
this
is
not
something
that
we've
asked
for.
X
It
is
that
if
we
do
not
have
the
medical
coverage
and
I
believe
that
the
medical
contract
ends
on
the
31st
of
this
month,
and
so
this
is
a
pressing
issue
and
I
hate
to
bring
this
issue
to
the
council,
but
I
believe
that
they
want
to
increase
and
go
up
on
the
contract
to
the
sum
of
I
believe
it's
1.1
million
dollars,
and
so
we
they
just
we've,
been
going
back
and
forth
with
them
since
since
April
on
this
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
a
plus
for
this.
X
That
I've
looked
at
the
contracts
that
we've
had
in
the
past
and
there
were
no
liquidated
damages
added
to
the
contract
in
this
contract
that
we
have
with
them.
X
We've
asked
for
liquid
liquidated
damages
to
be
added
to
this,
and
so
what
this
means
is
that
if
any
position
goes
beyond
30
days
of
them,
not
feeling
that
position
that
they
may
have
to
pay
and
I'll
use
this
as
a
example
that
they
have
to
pay
the
city
back
five
hundred
dollars
per
day
until
they
can
feel
those
positions
and
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
that
even
in
this
current
contract
that
they've
had
to
reimburse
the
city,
credit
back,
I
believe
around
300
and
something
thousand
dollars,
because
they
have
not
been
able
to
fill
those
positions.
X
So
even
if
we,
even
if
the
council
votes
on
this,
that
more
than
likely
the
city
will
recoup
part
of
that
money
back
through
the
current
vacancy,
so
I
hope
that
and
I
know
that
this
is
a
lot
to
to
actually
grasp
for
this
short
period
of
time.
But
the
Crux
of
the
matter
is
is
that
if
we
do
not
have
a
medical
provider
that
is
going
to
put
not
only
the
insurance
office
but
the
city
of
Columbus
in
a
really
bad
position.
B
J
O
O
Very
short,
business
agenda:
some
public
hearings
up
first,
first
one
is
a
text
change
for
the
unified
development,
ordinance
to
revise
chapter
3
and
a
special
exception
for
Uptown
Dunning
District,
tattoo
and
body
piercing.
It's
recommended
approval,
and
this
is
only
a
public
hearing
is
councilor
kogel.
Did
you
have
any
comments.
U
O
Okay,
anything
from
planning
all
right.
We
will
anybody
in
the
audience
opposed
to
this.
O
Take
a
vote
then
in
two
weeks,
mayor.
Okay.
The
second
item
is
a
resulting
at
119
Bascom
Court,
the
Hewitt
petition
to
go
from
residential
office
to
General
commercial
office.
Warehouse,
that's
recommended
for
approval,
Mr
Hewitt
here,
okay,
the
applicants
here:
are
there
any
questions
around
the
table
or.
O
Y
Good
morning,
I'm
Rodney
Milner,
and
this
is
Mr
Sam
Hewitt,
we're
proposing
the
bill
about
a
6,
000
square
feet,
building
small
office,
we're
going
to
store
equipment
on
the
inside
of
the
building
and
that's
about
it
we're
going
to
meet
all
criteria
that
is
needed.
Y
I
think
the
restricted
covenants
on
this
particular
subdivision
is
going
to
have
to
be
a
facade
on
the
front
of
the
building.
It
will
be
a
metal
building,
but
it
will
have
a
face
block
or
ephus
front
on
it
to
meet
the
criteria
of
the
covenants.
Okay,.
Z
U
K
Thank
you
mayor,
the
the
intended
use
you
say
is
a
Warehouse
specifically.
What
do
you
intend
to
use
this
warehouse
for.
Y
The
the
purchaser
is
Foster's
Tree,
Service
Mr
Mr
Foster
has
very
expensive
boom
trucks
that
he
likes
to
keep
inside
the
building.
He
doesn't
like
to
keep
new
180
000
piece
of
equipment
outside
and
he
likes
to
take
good
care
of
it,
and
that's
majority
he's
going
to
use
it
for.
K
One
of
the
things
I
see
here
is
it
not
true
in
planning
May
may
offer
some
comments
on
this,
but
having
a
warehouse
like
that,
really,
if
approved
you,
can
you
know,
depending
on
who
you
like
and
who
you
don't
like?
You
can
use
that
warehouse
for
anything.
You
want
right
under
General,
commercial.
AA
If
Foster
says
go
in
there,
that's
technically
a
building
in
trades,
Construction
office.
K
I
notice
that
there's
some
gravel
areas
that
around
the
I
guess
there's
a
fence
in
the
front
some
gravel
areas
on
both
sides
of
the
of
the
warehouse.
What
what
is
the
intentions?
Those
intentions
to
store
in
in
those
gravel
spaces.
Y
K
Y
K
I
understand
I'd
like
to
hear
mayor
from
the
opposition.
I
already
have
some
comments
on
it,
so
I
just
want
to
walk
through
this.
Okay.
AB
My
primary
opposition
to
it
is
is
simply
the
use
all
the
buildings
on
that
street
are
are
offices.
Lori
has
a
daycare
center
across
the
street
from
me.
There's
another
office
across
from
me,
I'm
in
a
6
000
square
foot,
brick
building
all
brick
all
the
way
around
Laurie's
is
Brick
all
the
way
around
asphalt,
shingle,
attractive
buildings
that
we
we've
invested
in
and
we
just
don't
want.
AB
We
I'm
particularly
opposed
to
The
General
commercial
rezoning
request,
because
that
opens
the
door
to
all
kinds
of
stuff
and
I'm
not
thrilled
about
having
a
warehouse
next
door.
Even
though
it's
going
to
conceal
tree
service
trucks,
that's
great,
but
I'm.
Just
opposed
to
the
zoning
request
that
that
whole
street
is
has
always
been
an
apartment
office.
I,
guess
it's
residential
office
now
so
opposed
to.
AB
Built
on
this
street
was
way
back
in
06.
I
built,
Laurie's,
puddle,
jumpers
building,
so
there's
not
been
a
lot
of
activity
on
the
street,
and
this
came
up
and
frankly,
I
didn't
make
the
Planning
Commission
meeting
the
details
on
this
whole
project
has
been
very
sketchy
so
I'm
just
concerned
to
me.
A
metal
building
Warehouse
does
not
fit
on
the
street
period.
K
I'm,
looking
at
the
current
rezoning,
this
residential
office
proposed
classification
as
General
commercial
with
issues.
That's
basically
anything
goes
category.
Then
you
gotta
current
use
of
the
property.
That's
I,
I,
don't
know
if
this
current
use
of
the
property
I,
don't
think
there's
any
there.
But
then
the
proposed
use
is
an
office
warehouse.
What
what
is
it?
Is
it
just
the
compatibility
that
what's
planning
thinking
on
this
as
far
as
compatibility?
If,
if
you've
got
I
mean
these
are
different
worlds,
we're
talking.
AA
AA
Are,
oh,
it's
a
mix,
it's
Ro
and
then
I.
AA
The
church
has
rmf-1
at
the
end
of
Baskin
Court,
so
it's
got
three
different
zoning
classifications.
Just
on
that
one
Street,
okay,.
K
Well,
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
ask
for
a
30-day
delay
on
this
for
the
opportunity
to
sit
down
with
the
applicant
and
and
understand
this
a
little
bit
better
to
see
if
there
is
a
way
to
find
some
common
ground
on
here
because
I
I've,
you
know
I
I,
do
share
some
of
the
concerns,
but
maybe
we
can
work
that
out.
I
I
think
it
would
not
be
a
good
thing
to
try
to
do
that
table
today.
K
So
I'm
gonna
make
a
a
motion
to
delay
this
for
30
days
and
then
I'll
have
an
opportunity
to
work
with
both
sides
to
see
if
we
can
figure
out
something
that
might
work
and
understand
the
situation.
I'm
I'm
still
I
still
need
some
more
clarification
on
that,
and
probably
even
to
the
point
of
maybe
restricting
the
use
and
I'm
I'm
not
going
to
attempt
to
try
to
do
that.
Right
now.
J
O
K
O
O
J
D
O
Right
we'll
bring
that
back
in
at
the
regular
September
meeting.
All
right,
then.
The
last
item
we've
got
mayor
is
the
revised
City
vehicle
car
allowance
policy
proposed
by
counselor
Thomas.
This
would
allow
commuting
by
Public
Safety
vehicles
to
Alabama
within
50
miles
of
City
Hall
and
also
put
in
some
driver
training
regulation
requirement.
B
Mr
Mayor,
we
we
have
looked
at
this
take-home
car
policy
for
a
couple
weeks
now,
and
what
this
revision
would
do
is
several
things
one
is,
it
would
become
effective
today
and
the
the
city-owned
vehicles
could
be
driven
home
at
the
end
of
the
employee
shift
to
in
Muskogee,
Harris,
Talbot
or
Chattahoochee
counties
in
Georgia
and
in
Alabama
I'm.
B
Not
sure
why
we
didn't
list
the
count,
the
counties
in
that,
but
we
we
did
limit
it
in
Alabama
to
a
50-mile
distance
from
the
city
hall,
which
would
be
12th,
Street
and
Broadway
the
one
of
the
next
items
on
here
in
the
current
policy.
It
says
that,
in
the
event
of
an
officer
has
to
travel
out
of
state
on
official
business
to
transport
a
prisoner
or
something
like
that
that
they
were
to
to
notify
the
director
of
Public,
Safety
and
I.
Believe
that's
what
it
said.
Director
and.
B
And
and
now
it's
the
department
head
and
I
believe
that
probably
Mathis
is
here:
I
believe
that
probably
there
is
a
process
for
doing
that
already
to
make
sure
that
the
chief
knows
that
you're
leaving
Muskogee
County
for
those
items.
The
other
thing
that
I
think
is
really
important
is
in
item
10
on
this
change,
when
we,
when
we
as
Council,
talked
about
making
sure
that
our
employees
knew
what
their
responsibilities
were,
what
their
regulate
the
regulations
were
if
they
drove
home,
we
asked
for
reform.
B
Well,
the
the
form
was
put
together
and
created
quite
a
flurry
in
the
Public
Safety
departments
because
of
the
wording
of
the
form,
and
so
what
this
says
is
instead
of
that
form.
B
Every
public
safety
officer
who
is
assigned
a
car
has
an
initial
training
session
about
how
to
how
to
use
the
car
what
to
do
when
to
flip
the
switch
on
for
the
lights
and
all
of
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
this
would
require
that,
during
that
initial
training
session,
the
rules
and
regulations
for
driving
a
city-owned
vehicle
out
of
the
home
at
night,
whether
it's
in
Georgia
or
Alabama,
will
be
explained
to
the
employees
rather
than
this
form
signing
this
form
that
we
had
put
there.
B
This
would
also
I
think
both
for
all
of
the
public
safety
Chiefs
that
are
in
the
audience
those
people
who
are
currently
employees
who
don't
have
to
go
through
this
initial
training
now
would
need
to
have
some
kind
of
a
training
session
to
make
sure
that
they
knew
what
was
there.
B
The
problem
that
the
concern
I
guess
not
problem.
The
concern
that
we
have
is
if
one
of
our
employees
drives
into
Alabama
Alabama
does
not
Grant
sovereign
immunity
in
case
of
of
an
accident
and
our
employees.
O
B
B
The
there
is
when
I
saw
this
I
I
called
my
insurance
guy
and
I
said
suppose:
I
was
driving
a
city-owned
vehicle.
They
won't.
Let
me
drive
a
police
car
I'm,
not
sure
why,
but
they
won't.
B
D
B
B
But
those
are
some
of
the
kinds
of
things
that
should
be
included
in
this
training
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
what
your,
what
Your
liabilities
are
and
what
your
responsibilities
are
and
all
of
those
other
kinds
of
things,
and
that
it
would
be
included
in
that
initial
training
that
all
of
the
employees
are
given.
That
would
also
include
city
employees
who
drive
vehicles
home.
B
They
need
to
be
told
also
about
what
all
of
the
rules
and
regulations
if
you
will
so
with
that
Mr
Mayor
I,
would
move
approval
of
the
new
take-home
car
policy
as
presented
all.
J
D
O
AD
Oh
yes,
I'll
be
sending
each
one
of
you,
an
email
on
September,
the
9th
we're
going
to
have
the
first
annual
family
fun
day
for
at
the
police
department,
I'm,
also
going
to
invite
the
the
sheriff's
command
him
and
his
Command
Staff
and
the
fire
department,
his
Command
Staff,
and
each
one
of
you
and
your
significant
other
your
spouse,
your
girlfriend
boyfriend,
maybe
not
your
spouse
and
your
boyfriend
at
the
same
time,
but
invite
them
to
the
family
fun
day
we've
raised
and
we
still
got
to
have
this
approved
by
Council.
AD
But
right
now
we
have
about
twenty
thousand
dollars
worth
of
donations,
we're
going
to
have
hot
dogs
hamburgers
it's
going
to
be
at
one
of
the
local
parks
and
we're
having
some
of
those
little
jumpy
things,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
good
time.
And
what
this
does
is.
This
is
one
event
that
changes
culture
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do.
So
you
all
get
an
email
from
me.
Thank.
J
You,
sir,
all
right
next
is
public
agenda
and
we
have
Mr
Timothy
Veals
regarding
the
work
within
the
city
for
certain
areas.
Mr
Vehicles
you'll
have
five
minutes
and
if
you're
unable
to
complete
your
comments
within
five
minutes,
we'll
have
to
cut
you
off,
but
you'll
be
allowed
to
come
back,
and
if
you
would
just
States
your
name
and
your
State
and
city
of
residence,
you
don't
have
to
give
you
straight
address.
U
Bills,
1039
Brook,
Road,
Columbus,
Georgia
31903,
yes,
sir
all
right
for
the
good
morning,
everyone
good
morning.
My
concern
is
basically
about
the
same
thing
about
in
my
neighborhood,
but
it's
some
other
neighborhood
too
based
concerned
about
my
neighborhood
1039
Bros
road
yeah,
now
I
know
about
good
four
or
five
year.
U
I've
been
complaining
about
the
same
house
in
the
same
lot
at
the
lot.
Nine
two
six
yes
interlock
besides
926
overgrown
folk,
30,
tragic
idea,
sometimes
folks
got
to
be
doing
laundry
I
mean
gradually
they
coming
through
these
bags,
because
I
did
so
much
in.
D
U
U
and
then
that
cabin
Avenue
got
a
dead
end
down
there.
I
guess
everybody
throw
their
trash
and
whatever
thing
that
dead
end
you
see
it
and
also
on
history
without
recommend,
like
you
said,
you
need
a
walk.
We
could
have
got
in
too
big
this
year.
I've
been
calling
for
that,
but
go
ahead
and
got
about
that
high.
U
You
got
too
big,
too
ditches
with
Queen
head
coming
down
here,
three
I
talking
about
the
grass
so
high.
You
know
it's
a
shame.
The
city
did
came
out
and
cut
the
grass.
The
only
thing
they
did
just
played
over
because
anything
out
there
for
five
minutes.
But
seeing
like
our
neighborhood,
don't
get
attention
like
another
like
a
lot
of
other
neighborhood,
so
I
won't
be
a
concerned
about
and
also
about
a
couple
weeks
ago.
U
U
The
next
somebody
came
out
Saturday
morning,
Georgia
Power
Wheel
over
there
came
about
said
no,
but
I
would
like
them
come
back
on
to
two
o'clock
sad
to
eat
and
then,
when
Georgia
Power
got
through,
I
gave
it
because
of
power
line
right.
They
still
hit
on
the
side
of
the
road,
so
I
didn't
get
so
much.
U
You
know,
I
thought
they
rotate
their
equipment
with
them,
but
when
they
come
through
our
neighborhood,
they
just
for
some
reason.
They
don't
DJ,
don't
respect
it
once
the
road
needs
cleaning
up
and
also
the
apartment
on
731
Russell
Road
that
you'd
have
a
doctor.
None
of
you
got
a
little
small
trash
cans.
I
guess:
I
just
accumulate
more
traffic.
Your
apartment
complex.
They
used
to
have
a
doctor
also.
U
What
to
put
their
trash
in
the
track
is
the
trade
man,
the
government,
wherever
y'all
call
they
come
by
the
track,
is
in
the
wrong
van.
They
didn't
even
give
them
citation
because
y'all
here
playing
that
before
y'all
before
they
came
up
with
the
new
track
cam,
you
know
what
fact
what
we're
going,
what
so
I
just
I
didn't
feel
like
for
the
Monday
who
Brook
Road,
Wilson,
Road,
Kevin,
Avenue
I,.
C
J
M
Would
you
yes,
sir,
we
and
and
I
was
going
to
say
that
and
then
we've
got
our
director
of
Public
Works
here.
Listening
and
mrsville
want
to.
Thank
you
because
you
you've
been
consistent.
You've
been
persistent
about
cleaning
up
your
neighborhood
and
cleaning
up
Columbus,
and
we
appreciate
you
and
I
know
that
we
did
acknowledge
you
for
that
at
one
time
and
and
I've
said
to
3-1-1,
because
you're
you're
on
our
side
and
you're
you're
working
you're
trying
to
get
these
things
done.
M
I
know
that
we
I
said
to
staff
that
when
Mr
veal
calls
it's
just
like
he
works
for
us
and
and
we
need
to
go
into
action
and
I
will
follow
up
with
staff
to
make
sure
that's
the
case,
because
I
mean
you're
working
just
like
our
special
enforcement
people,
when
I
mean
you've
been
doing
that
I
remember
when
we
were
at
the
Civic
Center
having
Council
meetings,
I
mean
you
were
coming
down
there,
then,
and
so,
but
we
appreciate
you
and
I
know
that
the
director
is
there
and
and
we're
taking
notes,
and
we
are
going
to
follow
up
on
the
things
that
you
pointed
out.
U
J
M
J
M
Why
don't
you
all
come
on
up
the
miracle
Riders?
Let's
welcome
them.
M
And
so
the
second
item
on
my
agenda:
Declaration
of
surplus
and
donation
of
fire
trucks-
and
the
chief
is
here
and
members
of
his
team,
sound
scarper,
but
and
so
we're
asking
Council
to
authorize
donations
and
we've
got.
M
We've
got
a
number
of
different
entities
that
these
fire
trucks
will
go
to
and
it
has
last,
but
it
will
not
and
I'll
start
from
the
bottom
and
and
go
up,
but
the
miracle
Riders
Taylor
County
volunteer
fire
department,
Chattahoochee
County
volunteer
fire
department,
Columbus
Technical,
College,
Foundation,
Marion,
County,
volunteer
fire
department
and
Geneva
volunteer
fire
department.
M
So
these
are
six
fire
trucks,
we're
asking
Council
to
declare
them
Surplus
and
authorize
a
donation
of
the
supplies,
equipment,
the
fire
trucks
to
these
agencies
and
we're
happy
that
I
don't
know
if
any
of
the
other
entities
are
present.
But
these
distinguished
Miracle
Riders
are
and
I
see,
Scott,
resmeyer
and-
and
you
know
we'll
invite
you
to
the
podium
and
and
someone.
J
AE
AE
But
by
doing
that,
we
are
able
to
support
other
agencies
around
in
our
region
by
providing
resources
that
are
no
longer
functional
for
us,
but
can
be
functional
for
another
agency
and
when
we
first
heard
that
the
miracle
Riders
had
an
interest
in
one
of
our
ambulances
immediately,
everybody
was
like
absolutely.
We
need
to
make
this
happen,
so
we
are
truly
blessed
and
appreciative
of
the
opportunity
to
support
the
miracle.
Riders
and
I'll
ask
Scott
to
say
a
few
words.
AF
I
just
want
first
thank
the
chief
and
the
Command
Staff
that
the
fire
department
for
even
considering
donating
to
us
one
of
their
ambulances.
Our
goal
is
to
retrofit
that
and
put
our
logo
on
it
and
then
go
around
and
make
a
difference
for
kids
in
our
community
and
go
show
a
positive
impact
of
what
these
guys
do
in
our
community
day
in
day
out
and
I.
Couldn't
think
of
a
better
way
to
do
that
than
pull
up
in
a
very
decorated
and
we'll
bring
that
back
to
council.
AF
So
you
can
see
what
it's
going
to
look
like,
but
you'll
notice
that
when
it
goes
down
the
street
I
guarantee
you
that
that
will
go
to
schools.
We'll
go
to
your
conversation
that
you
had
earlier
today
make
an
impact
on
kids
that
need
help
and
need
to
look
at
a
role
model
and
need
to
see
that
there
are
better
things
in
this
community
and
truthfully
each
one
of
these
guys
fund
100
of
their
own
expenses.
AF
J
Got
you
and
the
Miracle
Riders
have
made
a
tremendous
impact
on
our
community,
but
the
really
fun
thing
is
for
us
to
stay
home,
nice
and
warm
or
nice
and
cool
in
some
cases,
and
and
we
get
to
see
the
impact
you
make
on
people
across
this
country
and
and
when
they
hear
you
from
Columbus.
Georgia
I.
Just
want
you
to
know
that,
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
council,
our
hearts
swell
with
pride
for
what
you
folks
do
every
day
and
we're
so
grateful
for
you
for
what
you
do.
AF
Our
goal
for
our
next
ride
is
to
visit
every
Columbus
in
the
lower
48
states,
which
there
are
24
of
those
I
believe
which
will
take
us
on
about
a
9
000
mile
trip.
My
challenge
to
the
mayor
and
Council
is:
we
would
love
to
meet
with
each
mayor
of
each
Columbus
in
the
lower
48
and
we
would
love
to
invite
them
back
to
CR
Columbus.
AF
AF
B
Mayor,
when
I
saw
this
on
the
agenda
that
we
were
donating,
something
from
the
fire
department
to
the
miracle,
Riders
I
said
you're,
giving
those
guys
a
fire
truck
and
the
chief
said:
no,
no,
no,
it's
an
ambulance
and
and
describe
what
Scott
has
said,
they're
going
to
do
with
that,
and
so
I
said
to
the
chief
be
sure
that
the
that
he's
here
and
that
some
of
the
miracle
Riders
are
here.
B
These
I
think
Scott
is
to
he's
not
bragging
enough.
These
guys
have
contributed
millions
of
dollars
to
the
Columbus
Community
in
various
ways.
B
Throughout
the
years
of
of
the
ride
and
some
of
the
folks
that
are
there,
I
see
a
couple
of
firemen
that
are
with
the
on
the
Miracle
Riders
I
see
a
sheriff
who's,
one
of
the
miracle
Riders
and
I
just
want
to
tell
you
how
much
you
mean
to
this
community
and
what
you're
doing
for
this
community
I
will
tell
you
folks
that
I
don't
know
if
you
heard
what
Scott
said
when
these
guys
go
on
these
rides,
they
pay
their
own
way.
They
pay
their
hotel
room,
they
pay
their
food.
AF
AF
B
Give
to
give
instead
of
them,
give
to
to
the
miracle
writers
and
Scott
I,
want
to
remind
you
that
a
couple
that
you
told
me
a
couple
of
years
ago
that
when
I
get
to
be
90
years
old
I
will
ride.
You.
B
Good
enough,
thank
you
so
much
for
what
you
do
and
all
of
the
miracle
writers
and
the
Columbus
fire
department
for
making
some
of
this
kind
of
thing
possible.
It's
just
a
tremendous
event
and
and
I
appreciate.
All
of
you.
K
Thank
you,
mayor
I.
Just
it
makes
me
just
proud
here
in
my
community
to
see
this
relationship,
this
collaborative
effort,
but
Scott
I
can't
buddy.
We
love
you,
man,
I,
can't
I,
can't
thank
you
enough
for
all
your
team,
your
the
group
and
what
y'all
done
over
the
years
many
times
coming
up
here
and
and
understand,
I'm
just
glad
you're
still
doing
that.
It's
amazing!
That's
not
it's
not
easy.
What
you
guys
do
I
mean
I,
you're,
tough
and
I'm
sitting
here.
D
K
That
opportunity
one
year
to
trade,
a
bat
for
a
ball.
You
know
and
spend
a
little
time
with
him,
but
you
know
thinking
of
that
and
and
what
you
guys
do
I,
don't
know
if
people
realize
the
the
journey,
but
it's
it's
incredible
and
then
what
you
do
each
one
of
you,
the
dedication
you
give
a
lot
of
you've
been
here
for
years.
You've
been
doing
it
for
years
and
you
take
the
time
away
from
your
families,
your
financial
resources,
those
kind
of
things
and
I.
K
Don't
think
it's
you
know
those
bikes
break
sometime,
I
mean
y'all,
got
challenges
along
the
way,
but
it's
good
to
see
you
still
doing
it
and
you're
doing
it
to
you're
doing
it.
The
right
way,
giving
back
to
the
community
and
children
and
you've
made
a
difference.
I
can't
thank
y'all
enough,
and
just
really
can-
and
that's
that's
probably
about
the
best
thing
I
can
say
here
today-
is
we're
just
so
grateful
to
y'all
keep
up
the
good
work
and
Scott
is
just
you.
K
Q
M
B
Sheriff
Jolly
from
Harris
County
and
I
wrote
every
year.
P
AF
AA
J
J
R
Just
before
the
fire
department
leaves
Chief
and
and
company,
thank
you
for
not
only
donating
the
trucks
to
the
Miracle
Network,
but
you
with
all
of
our
new
purchases
of
our
fire
trucks
over
the
last
year
or
so.
We've
made
some
significant
impacts
in
our
in
our
surrounding
in
our
surrounding
communities,
with
our
volunteer
fire
departments
that
are
getting
our
hand-me-downs.
If
you
will
and
that's
keeping
our
outlying
communities
safe
as
well.
So
thank
you
and
thanks
for
making
that
happen.
M
All
right,
Mr
Mayor,
now
that
they've
got
you
all
in
a
good
mood
and
yet,
through
the
rest
of
my
agenda,
I've
got
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
Enrichment
Services
Program,
for
you.
J
M
Can
finish-
and
this
is
for
utility
assistance,
electricity,
natural
gas,
water
to
residential
dwellings
and
it's
a
program
that
they
administer
themselves,
but
we
are
able
to
add
1.5
million
to
further
reach
citizens
in
need.
M
J
J
J
J
H
J
H
So
my
question
was,
for
Rich
I
just
had
a
question
for
Enrichment
Services
in
reference
to
the
start
date
of
this
program.
AI
AI
AI
The
funds
are
exhausted,
so
we
will
periodically
have
to
shut
down
the
scheduler
just
based
on
reaching
capacity
for
the
appointments
that
we
schedule.
But
then
it
will
reopen
based
on
the
funding
availability.
AI
Quick,
it
goes
very
quick,
so
our
lahi
program
that
we've
been
administering
for
over
40
years,
just
as
an
example
I,
could
open
up
a
thousand
appointments
and
they
fill
up
within
five
minutes.
Yeah.
M
AI
M
H
M
J
Second,
to
approve:
is
there
any
discussion
hearing
that?
Well,
let's
get
this
hearing
that
this
Chris
can
you
post
them?
Can
you
put
on
there
we
go
counselors
if
you
would
register
your
votes.
J
Q
Pulled
no
no
I'm,
okay,
I
just
wanted
an
explanation,
all
right
on
the
e
Virtual
Academy
training
for
the
police
department.
If
I
can
get
cheap
to
come
forward,
I
read
over
it
sounded
sounds
real
good.
I
just
was
trying
to
understand.
AD
It's
actually
a
very
good
program.
What
it
is
is
they
can
take
classes
online
on
their
own
time
and
what
it's
going
to
do?
It's
going
to
eliminate
a
lot
of
the
very
minutiae
classes
that
have
to
have
every
year
to
keep
their
to
keep
their
certification
and
that
way
our
Training
Division
can
focus
on
the
high
high
speed
low
drag
training
that
they
need
with
firearms
and
some
use
of
force
and
defensive.
AJ
AD
J
M
D
is
the
construction
manager
general
contractor
services
for
the
jail
that
ties
to
the
item
before
that
with
the
slam.
The
architects
e
you
just
heard
from
the
chief
elf,
removal
of
residual
groundwater,
material
and
removal
and
Disposal,
reuse
of
large,
Tree,
Trunks
and
so
forth.
M
J
Okay
so
Council
Tucker
has
a
comment.
If
you
sure.
H
In
reference
to
the
construction
manager,
is
this
what
we
were
mentioning
about
project
manager
or
is
this
something
different.
H
Are
we
gonna
proceed
with
getting
a
project
manager?
I,
don't
know
if
we
well,
where
we're
adding
it
as
a
actual
position
within
the
city
or.
M
D
M
M
H
Only
reason
why
I'm
saying,
because
we
we
approve
the
construction
manager
and
seeing
that
we're
getting
the
ball
rolling
with
the
jail
I
know
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
details
in
reference
to
that
project.
M
Well,
and
and
when
we
bring
that,
if
we
bring
It
Forward,
it
will
be
more
for
judicial
Center
and
then
the
jail.
This
three
million
dollars
is
just
a
schematic
design
and
some
things
there's
a
much
bigger
project
in
the
future.
Okay.
H
And
in
reference
to
the
judicial
Center,
since
we're
already,
you
know
moving
forward
with
some
of
the
items
in
reference
to
getting
that
done.
That's
why
I'm
asking
about
the
project
manager,
because
I
I
honestly
feel
that
I
just
think
it's
a
bit
much
for
director
Ryan
Pruitt
and
we
need
to
move
forward
with
bringing.
H
M
And
I
can
appreciate
your
concern,
I'm
concerned
too,
and
I
I'm
I
can't
tell
you
that
we're
going
to
bring
it
at
the
next
meeting,
we'll
bring
it
when
we
have
gone
through
a
process,
and
we
will
bring
it
at
the
appropriate
time
and
ask
for
your
concurrence.
B
M
Well,
both
some
in
the
new
city
hall,
but
some
in
other
facilities,
where
they're
old
or
expired
in
no
longer
they've
reached
the
end
of
the
useful
life.
I
should
say
I'll
say
when.
B
M
That
is
correct,
I
I
needed
to
make
sure
that
we're
in
city
hall,
because
that's
where
we
are
because
I
might
need
one
and
and
so
I
did
ask
a
question:
where
are
the
aeds
and
they
said
there
are
none
in
here?
Well,
that's
unacceptable!
Yeah!
You
know.
M
AH
Good
morning
or
mid-afternoon,
I
should
say
to
all
of
you
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
and
you're
just
being
here
to
hear
us
and
allow
us
to
come
before
you.
Today,
we
are
going
to
give
you
a
very
detailed
update
on
the
Integrated
Waste
fund
on
the
Integrated
Waste
program
and
how
we
are
doing
right
now
and
where
we
are
as
far
as
transitioning
into
our
asls.
So
our
Integrated
Waste
manager,
Mr,
John
Pittman,
will
start
us
off
and
do
the
integrated
way
study
and
then
directly
following
him.
AH
Our
consultant,
who
has
been
our
consultant
for
over
20
years
and
has
been
doing
all
of
our
rates,
various
scenarios,
will
come
up
and
present
the
rate
study
that
we've
been
trying
to
bring
to
you
all
for
quite
a
while
now.
So,
if
you
would,
please
just
give
us
your
attention,
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started.
Mr
Pittman.
V
Good
morning,
mayor
council,
Mr
city
manager,
my
name
is
John
Pittman
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
having
me
here
this
morning,
giving
me
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
the
Integrated
Waste
program.
What's
going
on
in
integrated
ways,
how
are
we
operating
what
the
future
looks
like
some
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
implement
going
forward
when
it
comes
to
new
technology
and
collections
of
trash
in
our
in
our
community.
V
Integrated
Waste
fund,
some
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
talk
about
in
our
Integrated
Waste
fund,
is
waste
collection,
talk
about
the
process
in
waste
collecting
recycling
collection,
how
we're
doing
it
our
recycling
center,
our
landfill
update,
Pine,
Grove,
Granite,
Bluff,
chateoga,
Road,
Wilson,
camp
and
Oxbow,
and
after
that
you
know,
I
will
give
a
quick
summary
over
the
Integrated
Waste
fund
and
then
I
will
introduce
you
to
a
consultant.
V
New
automated
side,
loaders
is
one
of
the
new
things
new
additions
that
we
have
in
in
our
collection
in
our
program,
and
we
want
to
talk
about
the
wine
cart
system.
What
is
it
getting
the
word
out?
Starts
Now.
We
want
to
do
some
amending
some
changes.
Some
words,
some
verbs
changing
in
our
current
ordinance,
automation,
implementation
schedule,
our
yard
waste
transition
that
we're
working
on
is
something
that
we've
always
had
in
place
going
forward.
J
V
Loaders,
where
are
we
with
delivery?
Currently
we
have
19
cabin
chassis,
past
inspection.
You
know
the
bodies
are
being
installed
currently
right.
Now,
as
we
speak,
we
got
21
cab
and
Chassis
to
be
inspected
with
bodies
in
the
near
future.
The
final
PDI
process,
which
is
pre-delivery
inspection
process
and
decal
installation
that
will
be
done
in
Birmingham
Alabama.
V
V
This
is
what
we
are
seeing
right
now
this
when
we
go
out
to
do
collections.
This
is
what
we
are
allowing
right
now,
and
this
is
something
that
we
want
to
to
clean
up
going
forward
on.
The
right
is
where
we
want
to
be
when
it
comes
to
collecting
garbage
in
our
Recycling
and
our
yard
waste.
You
know
a
better
position,
something
that's
a
little
bit
more
aesthetic
cleaner,
much
much
more
efficient
operation
going
forward.
V
We
will
be
asking
you
to
to
give
us
some
approval
going
forward
with
the
new
one
card
system.
We
want
to
implement
that
effective
date,
one
January
2024,
where
we
will
be
asking
you
for
to
approve
only
the
one
cart
system,
a
black
card
for
household
garbage
Greenways,
which
is
a
green
card
and
a
blue
card,
which
is
our
recycling
cart.
V
We
understand
that
we
know
that
some
constituents
have
a
little
bit
more
green
waste
than
the
normal
and
we
we
understand
that,
but
we're
going
to
recommend
that
we
change
the
style
of
bags
and
we
limit
the
number
of
bags
that
are
being
put
on
the
curb
trying
to
eliminate
the
plastic
bags,
for
you
know
for
the
environment
and
go
with
the
biodegradable
Brown
Bags.
The
paper
bags,
the.
C
V
For
them
right
now,
it's
not
high
demand
form
right
now,
but
hopefully
in
the
future,
when
we
can
make
this
transition
that
the
the
supply
and
demand
will
be
here
in
Columbus.
V
We
won't
let
everybody
know
what's
going
on.
We
want
to
get
the
word
out.
You
know
about
our
new
collection
system
going
forward.
This
is
our
a
flyer
billboard.
This
is
Bill
direct
mailer
and
it
just
and
it
talks
about
only
City
issue
costs
will
be
collected.
You
have
your
green
card,
you
have
your
blue
card
and
you
have
your
your
black
card
for
household
garbage.
V
During
the
time
we
will
continue
to
collect
whatever
is
at
the
curb
once
we
implement
this
service,
we're
going
to
continue
to
to
teach,
encourage
coach
and
do
whatever
it
takes
in
order
to
get
this
program
on
track
and
online,
so
we
got
to
get
out
there
and
pick
up
some
additional
cans
that
you
may
put
out
until
you
understand
the
process
and
tell
you
can
be
able
to
put
all
your
garbage
in
one
container,
all
your
recyclables
and
all
your
Greenways
in
one
can
we're
going
to
continue
to
do
that
until
January.
V
V
Another
thing
is
getting
the
word
out.
This
is
what
we
want
to
see
on
your
left.
This
is
not
what
we
want
to
see
when
you
write
this.
What
we
want.
This
is
how
we
want
to
collect
your
garbage
using
the
one
cart
system,
and
this
is
how
we're
going
to
collect
it
on
the
next
slide.
V
You
know
this
is
a
one-person
truck
going
forward
and
as
we
continue
to
to
to
get
the
word
out,
letting
people
know
that
what's
going
on
and
how
we're
doing
it,
we
got
different
Avenues
of
how
we
want
to
continue
to
get
that
word
out
and
that's
through
the
media
Outlet
through
ccg
TV,
the
local
news,
local
media
Community
meetings
with
the
HOA
meetings.
V
V
Here
we
we
want
to
recommend
some
changes
that
will
assist
us
making
this
transition
as
smooth
and
efficient
as
possible.
I
I
know
you
don't
have
a
copy
of
what
we
are
presenting
here
as
far
as
the
actual
ordinance
itself,
but
it's
just
a
few
upward
in
there
that
we
want
to
make
some
definition
changes.
Some
general
provisions
on
how
we
will
be
collecting
change
a
word
or
two
here
saying
that
only
carts
will
be
collected
by
the
new
automated
system.
V
V
V
This
is
where
the
changes
begin
here
with
the
new
automated
system,
the
transition.
This
will
change
our
operation.
This
will
change
our
operation.
Currently
right
now
we
have
26
railroaders
that
we
deploy
daily
with
this
new
system
that
we're
getting
ready
to
implement
to
roll
out
we're
only
going
to
put
out
16,
16,
automated
side,
loaders
and
that
will
take
care
of
all
the
collection
for
each
route.
So
in
each
vehicle
that
we're
putting
out,
we
have
about
a
thousand
stops
per
home.
V
That's
about
16,
000
homes
that
we
would
take
care
per
day.
The
routes
are
built
and
designed
for
the
future
for
growth.
So,
as
we
Columbus
continues
to
grow,
we'll
be
able
to
grow
along
with
them.
We
won't
have
to
come
back
up
in
action
for
some
additional
trucks
or
or
some
additional
Manpower
or
whatever
the
case
may
be.
This
is
designed
this
will
keep
us
going
for
the
next
five
to
seven
years
going
forward.
V
So
when
we
roll
out
the
eliminate
to
26
real
lotus
in
in
September,
August
and
September,
we're
going
to
do
five
and
five
we're
going
to
take
out
five
excuse
me
we're
going
to
take
away
10
rail
loaders
from
from
the
service
we're
going
to
implement
five,
automated
side,
loaders
and
that
happens
in
August
and
September.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
going
to
have
approximately
16
automated
side
loaders
that
will
take
care
of
all
of
the
household
garbage
that
will.
That
is
the
one.
V
This
is
the
schedule
to
make
that
transition
with
your
waist
bringing
yard
waste
back
into
ccg.
Our
plan
has
always
you've
been
been
in
place
to
take
back
your
waste
in
October.
We
want
to
implement
five
ASL
yard
waste
routes,
we're
going
to
replace
seven
yard
waste
routes
with
amways
November
we're
going
to
do
six
and
at
the
end
of
the
process,
which
should
be
at
the
end
of
December.
We
will
have
11
ASL
yard
waste
route
implemented
into
service
going
forward.
V
That
should
take
care
of
the
the
yard
waste
and
it
should
be
back
into
the
fold
here
with
ccg
going
forward.
Ultimately,.
V
Ultimately,
our
goal
is
to
have
all
these
programs
in
place
fully.
I
mean
fully
funded
and
filled,
starting
with
16,
automated
side,
loaders
right
for
garbage,
16.,
11,
automated
side
Lotus
for
the
green
waste,
we're
going
to
have
six
rear
loaders
for
green
waste
and
junk.
Remember
we
started
with
26
rear
loaders.
V
V
We
currently
have
eight
automated
routes
in
service
right
now,
that's
been
going
on
since
2020,
so
we
it
the
40
vehicles
that
are
coming
in.
We
have
scheduled
three
of
them
for
the
automated
side
loads
and
that
should
fill
out
the
recycling
part
of
the
program,
eliminating
the
three
real
loaders
that
we
have
out
there
now,
in
addition
to
the
eights
side
loaders,
we
got
10
grab
balls
that
we
use
for
calling
service
right
now
and
and
at
the
end
we
should
have
about
54
total
routes.
V
At
the
end
of
the
day,
with
pre-covered,
you
know
we
had
62
routes
out
there,
so
that's
a
reduction
there,
that's
a
some
cost
savings
there
and
and
creating
some
efficiency
Within
a
program
itself,
operation
sustainability.
V
You
know
for
the
future
some
of
the
things
that
we
we
are
requesting
that
we
need.
You
approve
alone.
We
need
your
acknowledgment
on
and
that's
one
hire
some
backers
for
our
trucks
to
put
in
place
for
our
program,
our
JUMP
program,
our
green
waste
programs,
the
miscellaneous
piece
of
the
program.
We
want
to
be
able
to
bring
some
civilian
workers
in
to
be
able
to
do
that
job.
We
think
that
will
enhance
our
program
and
allow
us
to
be
able
to
give
a
little
bit
better
service
going
forward.
V
We
want
to
actually
phase
out
the
addition.
I
mean
purchase
additional
black
carts,
we're
going
to
need
it
for
the
growth
Columbus
is
growing
and
it's
growing
fast.
So
we
need
to
be
prepared.
We
need
to
have
a
surplus
of
black
carts
out
there
on
the
curb
I
mean
in
our
in
our
yard
Fleet
yard.
So
we
want
to
be
able
to
provide
all
those
things
to
to
our
customers
conditioners.
V
You
know
not
having
to
wait
a
day
a
week
or
two
weeks
we
want
to
when
they
call
we
want
to
be
to
get
them
those
carts
or
whatever
they
need
at
that
time
and
moment.
V
V
If
you
think
that
you
can,
you
don't
have
enough
room
and
you
can
and
you
you,
you
need
some
more
room,
we're
going
to
come
out
there,
we're
going
to
evaluate
your
garbage,
we're
going
to
stick
our
hands
in
there,
we're
going
to
check
it
out
and
we're
going
to
show
you
what
you
can
recycle
we're
going
to
show
you
what
you
can
put
in
the
garbage.
V
You
know
to
try
to
create
that
going
forward
in
the
future
limit
the
number
of
bags
and
the
type
of
bags
that
are
placed
curbside
for
yard
waste.
We
want
to
limit
them
the
bags.
We
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
bags
out
there.
We
put
a
lot
of
bags
on
the
curb.
We
try
to
limit
that
number
trying
to
eliminate
plastic
bags
and
do
the
brown
bags
the
biodegradable
bags.
V
That's
what
we're
trying
to
do
to
move
forward
with
so
to
limit
that
number
down
to
10
and
then
all
collections
recommended
that
we
put
all
the
services
on
the
same
day.
If
your
garbage
goes
on
Monday
everything
goes
on
Monday
your
recyclable
goes
on
Monday.
Your
boat
goes
on
Monday
everything
that
every
service
that
we
provide
will
be
on
that
particular
day.
So
you
don't
have
to
try
to
figure
out
well.
When
does
recycling
come
when
does
garbage
come?
You
know
we
want
to
make
it
easy.
V
We
want
to
streamline
that
process
for
you
and
everybody
change
collection
days,
we're
suggesting
or
recommending
that
we
change
our
collection
days
from
Monday,
Tuesday,
Thursday,
Friday
to
Monday,
Tuesday,
Wednesday
and
Thursday,
and
that's
going
to
create
some
some
efficiency
within
our
operation.
It
allows
us
to
have
a
little
bit
more
time
to
do
some
maintenance
on
these
new
equipment.
V
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we,
when
we
get
receive
these
vehicles,
that
we
got
a
maintenance
plan
in
place
that
would
be
effective
going
forward,
and
this
also
is
an
incentive
for
our
employees.
You
know
giving
them
an
additional
day
off
a
longer
weekend.
It's
a
morale,
Builder
I
think,
and
it's
something
that
we're
going
to
be
asking
going
forward
that
you
approve.
V
I
I
do
have
two
questions.
One
I
understand
the
goal
to
have
it
nice
and
clean.
There
are
times
where
people
are
going
to
have
too
much
trash
so
say
for
Christmas,
there's
a
bunch
of
extra
bags.
What
what
are
we
expecting
citizens
to
do?
If
we
only
pick
up
from
the
one
can.
I
V
We'll
give
them
an
extra
dump,
if
need
be,
they
can
they
can
call
and
we
give
them
an
extra
dump,
but
in
the
meantime
you
know
we
want
to
encourage
them
to
recycle
a
little
bit
more.
That
would
be
the
the
process
you
know.
I
understand.
You
know
we're
going
to
have
holidays
we're
going
to
have
some
additional
garbage,
but
if
we
can
maintain
and
There's.
M
M
And
and
I
will
say
that,
obviously
this
will
be
new
and
and
I
I
think
at
least
the
first
holiday,
where
we
know
that
collections
are
large.
We
we
may
look
at
something
that
may
be
different
for
that
holiday
pick
up.
M
In
other
words,
if,
if
one
can
is
not
sufficient,
I'm,
not
I'm,
saying
we
need
to
study
it,
we
may
have
one
of
the
older
vehicles
that
could
go
around
and
pick
up
the
extra
that
what's
outside
they
can't
I,
don't
know,
but
we
will
look
at
holiday
seasons
where
garbage
comes
in
larger
volumes,
like
perhaps
Thanksgiving
or
Christmas.
Okay,.
I
The
second
question
is
I
think
it
was
May
9th,
where
we
heard
a
presentation
on
on
potential
Integrated
Waste
strategies
we're
talking
about
like
bringing
the
yard
waste
in
in-house,
look
at
the
different
routes
and
trucks,
but
we
never
really
saw
a
financial
analysis.
I
That
said
this
is
the
right
approach,
because
I
know
we're
I'm
not
opposed
to
going
up
to
fees
if
that's
what's
required,
but
you
know
we're
talking
about
40
increase
for
residential
customers
in
a
135
increase
for
the
Uptown
business
district
customers
before
we
support
that
I
think
we
need
a
financial
analysis
that
says
this
is
why
we're
going
in
this
direction.
We've
looked
at
keeping
yard
waste
external
we've,
looked
at
the
different
truck
options
and
here's
the
financial
analysis
that
says
this
is
the
most
affordable
route.
We
haven't
seen
that
yet,
okay.
M
I
B
Mr
Pittman
I
want
to
talk
to
you
if
you'll
go
back
to
that
one
I
guess:
I
I
understand
that
you
want
to
do
four
days
of
collection
and
one
day
of
operation
to
make
sure
that
the
trucks
are
running.
Yes,
ma'am
I'm,
not
sure
why
we've
left
this
on
Monday
there
are
eight
Mondays
in
the
year.
B
Ma'am
there,
if
you
move
those
collection
days
to
Tuesday,
Wednesday
Thursday
Friday,
then
that
would
not
be
a
concern
to
people
to
know
whether
or
not
I
put
out
my
garbage
on
the
holiday.
That's
one
of
the
issues
that
I'm
sure
that
all
of
the
councils
around
here
hear
every
every
time,
there's
a
Monday
holiday
and
it
doesn't
seem
to
me
to
be
you
could
do
your
your
you
could
do
your
work
on
your
on
your
trucks
on
Monday
rather
than
on
Friday,
and
not
have
that
Monday
holiday.
Confusion.
V
V
B
To
be
I
understand
all
of
that,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
why
even
put
ourselves
in
that
position,
why
not
not
collect
on
Monday
and
collect
on
Tuesday
Wednesday,
Thursday
Friday
and
you
wouldn't
have
to
collect
two
reps
on
Tuesday
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
understand!
That's.
V
J
R
Do
at
off
of
counselor
Begley's
comment
and
maybe
it's
going
to
be
covered
in
the
in
the
next
presentation.
But
is
there
an
additional
charge
for
those
additional
cans
that
people.
Q
V
Well,
we
can
certainly
collect
that
trash
if,
if
you
got
having
a
birthday
party
or
something
like
that
and
you
have
an
additional
dress,
you
can
give
us
a
call,
and
we
can
certainly
take
care
of
that.
D
G
V
That's
just
a
one-time
event
and,
like
the
city
manager
said
earlier
for
the
holidays,
we
can
certainly
send
a
truck
through
to
make
sure
that
everybody
is
service
because
during
the
holidays
of
course,
there
is
some
extra
coverage
and
sometimes
we
recycle
everything
that
we
possibly
can.
But
it's
just
not
enough,
and
we
can
certainly
do
that
and
we
will
keep
that
in
consideration.
I.
Q
Realize
you're
doing
your
homework
and
everything,
but
in
my
district
over
the
last
five
or
six
years,
there's
been
a
lot
of
trash
I've
been
pushing.
You
know
Recycling
and
they're
doing
a
lot
better,
but
once
we
get
to
the
point
where
I'm
saying
we
have
them
recycling,
the
trash
is
going
in
the
cans.
There
are
a
lot
of
young
kids
coming
in
people
have
at
least
three
kids
since
covet
people
are
closer
to
the
home.
Now
so.
Q
Q
V
That's
that's
in
the
race
study
also
recommendation
getting.
M
M
M
With
yeah,
okay
and
that's
one
thing,
I've
asked
them
to
take
a
look
at
the
cost
of
a
second
can
and
perhaps
not
charging
an
additional
fee.
Okay,
but
I
mean
you
buy
the
can
right,
but
there
would
not
be
an
extra
an
escalated
garbage
fee
for
picking
up.
The
second
can,
okay
and
and
that's
that's
one
thing-
I've
asked
them
to
take
a
look
at
I
know
in
another
city.
They,
when
you
get
your
water
turned
on.
M
I,
don't
know
what
we
would
charge,
but
but
that
can
could
be
delivered
and
you,
let's
say,
have
two
cans
and
you
may
often
just
use
one
can.
But
on
that
special
day
that
you
talk
about
or
holiday,
you
have
to
use
both
cans.
Okay-
and
so
you
will
have
already
purchased
that
King
and-
and
it
would
go
up
to
the
curve
in
your
garbage
fee-
doesn't
change
because
you
purchased.
That
second
can
I've
asked
them
to
look
at
that,
and
and
it's
all
about
cleaner
Community,
Yeah,
clean.
M
Examples
of
what
a
clean
Street
could
look
like
and
versus
a
street
where
there
are
bags
and
the
dogs
tear
into
the
bags
and
then
you've
got
a
messed
up
Street,
and
so
that's
one
of
my
thoughts
about
the
extra
garbage,
sometimes
for
me,
I
wait
two
weeks
to
put
my
recycling
out
because
I
don't
have
enough
recycling,
and
so,
in
other
words,
if
you've
got
two
black
cans,
you
may
often
use
one
and
then
the
second
one
would
be
required.
If
there's
something
special
at
the
birthday
party.
Okay,.
Q
V
Well,
hopefully
it
won't-
hopefully
it
won't
take
too
long.
The
plan
is,
is
to
start
now
actually
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
service
the
way
it
is.
You
know
we
know
that
it's
going
to
take
some
time
for
change,
that
to
change
the
culture
a
little
bit,
so
the
the
the
time
frame
right
now
is
from
now
until
January,
the
first
and
and
if
it
doesn't
happen,
and
we
got
to
continue
a
month
or
so,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
everybody
gets
it.
We
want
to
make
sure
change,
everybody
gets.
V
It
knows
what
to
do,
how
to
do
it.
We're
going
we're
there
to
assist
we're
there
to
help
them
get
to
the
next
level.
We
think
this
is
a
great
process.
It
cleans
up
the
entire
city,
it
cleans
up
the
residence
and
that's
what
we're
trying.
Q
D
Q
Know
where
you're
trying
to
go
because
I've
been
to
many
many
areas
and
and
traveling
back
into
Fort
I'm
here
to
the
West
Coast,
and
always
amazed
me
that
I
was
in
a
neighborhood,
mid
90s
and
they
had
three
cans
lined
up
like
that.
Yes
and
everything
was
picked
up
and
everything
was
clean.
That's
why
I
was
wondering
how
long
would
it
take
us
to
get
to
that
point?
Yeah.
M
You
know
I
mean
this
is
something
new
and
and
past
due
for
us
right
and
I.
Think
we've
got
to
get
there
because
you
know
I
know
at
my
mother's
house,
in
Phoenix,
City
and
I
have
a
house
in
Phoenix
City
as
well.
If
anything
is
outside
that
garbage,
can
they
don't
pick
it
up
and
finish
it
yeah?
It
has
to
be
inside
the
container
or
they
will
leave
it.
Okay
and
so
we've
got
if
we're
going
to
have
clean
streets.
M
We
have
got
to
figure
out
how
to
get
to
that
point,
and
that's
why
I
mentioned
the
thought
of.
If
you
think
that
occasionally
you
are
going
to
have
you
know
extra
trash,
then
you
know
we
need
to
make
the
can
affordable,
but
if
I
could
buy
a
second
can-
and
it's
just
two
in
my
house-
I-
don't
need
it
right,
but
I
would
buy
a
second
can
anyway,
just
in
case
for
for
holidays,
and
so
we've
got
to
look
at
that.
D
J
H
H
I
think
exactly
what
councilor
Huff
said:
I
was
at
a
Naco
conference
in
Adams
County
and
it
felt
like
Wisteria
Lane.
You
know
that's
where
Housewives
just
right,
dress
felt
like
military
military
installation
I
think
it's
gonna
take
us
some
time
to
get
there.
I
actually
was
going
to
ask
director
Ryan
Pruitt
to
go
to
Georgetown
subdivision
off
University
Road,
the
entire
I'm,
not
gonna,
say
the
entire,
but
majority
of
the
people.
They
leave
their
cans
out
24
7
365
days,
and
not
only
is
it
cans
out.
H
It's
large
amount
amounts
of
trash
throughout
whether
it's
bags
of
trash,
as
councilor
Begley
mentioned.
AH
H
And,
and
sometimes
you
know,
I
call
call
you
well
send
an
email
with
the
photo
of
mattresses
and
just
yesterday,
I
sent
the
photo
with
they're
they're,
not
putting
in
the
green
can
they're
putting
it
outside
of
green
can
and.
D
H
Asked
the
gentleman
I
said:
hey:
do
you
know
that
you
need
to
call
3-1-1?
He
said
he
didn't
know
and
that's
what
I've
been
doing
is
just
riding
through
the
district
I
mean
even
on
Forest
Road,
Urban
Avenue.
You
know
East
Urban,
Heights,
actually
speaking
with
citizens
to
let
them
know
it's
going
to
be
a
culture
change.
H
It
is
not
gonna
and
just
from
what
I
see,
because
we've
been
I've
been
talking
about
it
for
almost
three
years,
I,
don't
think
we're
going
to
be
able
to
do
it
in
six
months,
I
I,
just
don't
it's
gonna.
Take
it's
gonna,
take
a
lot
of
work.
I'm
talking
about
for
real
and
I
appreciate,
Deputy
city
manager,
Lisa
Goodwin,
with
the
all
all
hands
on
deck
approach
and
I
do
have
some
citizens.
You
know
calling,
and
they
want
to
actually
do
this.
H
But
it's
getting
those
individuals
who
are
not
used
to
living
in
a
housing
community
and
they
don't
know
that
they
need
to
pull
their
trash
cans
and
or
they
don't
know
that
they
need
to
go
to
this
one
cards
and
it's
a
lot
of
younger
people.
H
They
have
lived
in
apartment
complex
for
years
and
years
and
they
understand
in
a
single
family
household
and
those
are
the
ones
that
really
I
mean
the
Dynamics
of
these
communities
is
way
different
than
it
was
when
I
was
growing
up.
If
we
implemented
this
in
1988
to
be
like
that,
I
could
see
it.
I
grew
up
in
Carver,
Heights
I
could
see
those
individuals
over
there
doing
that
I
just
don't
see
it
happening
as
quick
as
we
would
like
to
make
it
happen.
It's
just
not
it's.
H
It's
going
to
have
to
be
a
culture
change,
I'm
going
to
have
to
educate
it's
a
it's
a
mindset.
It's
it's
a
lot
in
some
of
these
districts,
like
my
district
and
Council
Huff's
District
I
mean
even
counselor
cargo.
Is
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
work
and
I
agree
with
councilor
huff
and
regarding
getting
us
involved
and
actually
getting
out
and
talking
to
some
of
these
citizens
and
everybody
doesn't
have
a
HOA
matter
of
fact
and
District
4
is
on
the
one
HOA.
H
Some
of
them
do
have
neighborhood
watches,
but
we
don't
have
neighborhood
watches
in
every.
You
know
subdivision
or
area,
so
we
really
got
to
and
and
the
reason
why
I
said
Georgetown
because
I
promise
you
I
get
a
call
every
day
because
it
is
frustrating
you
go
in
there
and
now
he
put
a
sign
up
to
say
you
know
basically
clean
clean
up
your
neighborhood.
This
is
a
retired
veteran
and
he's
trying
he's
trying.
But
it's
it's
gonna
take
a
lot
of
work.
It.
AH
Is
going
to
take
a
lot
of
work
and
we
do
recognize
that
but
and
our
plan
is
to
flood
social
media
flood
the
local
news,
the
local
media,
with
everything
that
we
have
in
regards
to
this
type
of
change
that
we
want
to
see
in
our
community
and
I.
Think
as
well.
There
are
people
who,
like
you
said,
don't
know
any
different.
I
grew
up
in
a
military
household
on
a
military
basis,
so
I
I
immediately
knew
watching
my
neighbors.
AH
What
had
to
be
done
as
a
child
live
living
on
a
military
base,
so
I'm,
hoping
that
that
same
mentality
and
culture
will
catch
on
here
in
Columbus
I
do
agree.
It's
going
to
take
some
time,
I,
don't
think
we
will
be
able
to
get
it
done
in
six
months.
However,
I
have
confidence
in
this
community
and
I
think
there's
more
people
who
want
to
see
it
clean
than
those
that
see
that
are
making.
H
It
dirty
and
and
they
and
they
do
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
suggest
suggesting
for
my
district
was
having
kind
of
like
block
captains
to
go
around
and
really
I
mean
it's
almost
like
police
in
your
area
right
and
educating
the
folks.
But
you
have
really
some
dedicated
people
throughout
the
city
right,
but
I
I
know
in
District.
4
I
have
some
real
amazing
people
that
will
be
more
than
willing
to
help
with
this
and
I'm,
not
saying
that
it
can't
be
done.
H
D
D
H
I
just
want
to
I
want
to
make
sure,
because,
what's
going
to
happen
and
what
I'm
afraid
of
is
illegal,
dumping
is
gonna
counter
increase
so
watching
the
legal
dumping
that
will
go
on
because
they
know
that
they
can't
put
more
trash
out
and
they
can't
afford
some
of
the
people.
I
think
my
district
is
like
25
poverty,
so
they
can't
afford
a
45
or,
however
much
we
want
to
charge.
They
can't
afford
that.
H
So
what
they're
going
to
do
is
dump,
because
we
already
have
a
lot
of
dumping
in
District
Four,
so
we're
going
to
have
and
I
don't
know,
city
manager,
how
many
code
enforcement
individuals
we
have
actually
working
for
the
city,
but
when
I
was
in
Macon
I
found
out,
they
had
21
yeah
yeah
code
enforcement
employees
because
of
issues
like
illegal,
you
know,
or
issues
on
properties
with
citizens.
M
But
and
it's
going
to
take
a
while
in
some
neighborhoods
they're
going
to
get
it's
going
to
be
immediate.
Like.
M
You're
going
to
see
the
three
cans
on
that
that
neatly
done.
Just
like
the
example,
you
showed
you're
going
to
see
that
in
a
lot
of
neighborhoods,
because
I
I
was
in
in
Florida
and
you
go
down
the
street,
you
drive
down
the
street
and
on
a
garbage
day
and
they
had
all
of
the
cans
out
in
Saint
Cloud
on
the
same
day
and
they're
all
just
as
needed
as
they
can
be,
and
so
you
can
drive
down
the
street
and
you're
like
wow.
You
know
everybody's
complying.
M
Looking
at
these
garbage
can,
as
you
ride
down
the
street,
you
know
my
dream:
is
that
we'll
see
that
in
Columbus
Georgia
and
we're
going
to
see
it
in
some
neighborhoods
sooner
than
we
do
others?
And
so
some
neighborhoods
I'm
going
to
be
able
to
drive
down
the
street
and
see
what
I
see
in
Saint
Cloud
and
then
others
we're
going
to
have
what
we're
talking
about,
and
we
got
to
figure
it
out.
It's
going
to
take
longer
than
six
months,
but
it's
going
to
take.
H
H
Every
week
on
that
property
and
they
put
out
Walmart
bags
just
tied
up
around
and
I
know
for
a
fact.
You
all
aren't
gonna
pick
that
up.
So
guess
what
the
dogs
and
all
kind
of
animals-
and
it's
just
spread
out
when
you're
going
downstairs
everywhere
yeah.
But
those
are
issues
that
that
we're
going
to
see
in
certain
certain.
M
Things
and
I
know
it
will
eventually
because
I
I
know
some
poverty
neighborhoods
in
Phoenix,
City
and
I
would
challenge
you
to
drive
down
Phoenix
City
on
on
a
Friday
down
those
streets.
You
will
not
see
trash
outside
the
can,
and
these
are
High
poverty
areas
because
they've
come
to
the
point
of
complying,
and
so
it
can
be
done.
It
may
take
time,
but
it
can
be.
AH
Done,
and
let
me
also
include
that
we
are
in
the
process
of
training
all
of
our
route
supervisors
and
our
compliance
officers
to
be
more
engaged
with
the
community
as
they're
doing
their
job
during
the
day.
So
if
they
happen
to
drive
by
and
see
that
house
that
has
all
the
Walmart
bags
out,
they
need
to
stop
and
go
knock
on
the
door
and
say
why
aren't
you
using
the
city
issued
can
and
find
out
what
the
problem
is.
AH
V
C
V
But
the
opportunity
to
continue
the
public-private
partnership
is
what
we
want
to
do
with
Uptown.
We
got
some
ideas.
Some
recommendations
that
we
want
to
share
today,
like
invested
in
appropriate
high
volume,
solar
digital
compaction
for
for
the
Uptown
District.
Investing
compact
is
open,
tops
road
laws
for
City
Hall
and
special
events
at
a
at
a
least
cost.
V
I
V
The
right
is
what
we
want
to
put
in
the
Uptown
District.
That
is
what
you
call
a
solar,
compactor
public
space,
Recycling
and
garbage.
Can
it
runs
on
solar
power?
It
also
has
the
technology
in
it.
So
we
won't
have
to
worry
about
a
phone
call.
We
get
it
on
our
on
our
apps
on
our
phone
and
it
tells
us
hey.
We
need
to
be
dumped,
we
need
to
be.
We
need
to
be
dumped
changed
out.
V
You
know
all
those
good
things,
so
it
talks
to
us
and
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
present
and
and
put
in
our
uptime
district.
You
know
some
of
the
things
is
fully
enclosed.
Of
course
it
is
high
capacity
compactor.
V
You
know
we'll
be
able
to
get
a
little
bit
more
garbage
in
there
going
forward,
though
the
Uptown
team,
they
do
a
a
fairly
good
job
in
picking
up
the
garbage
and
getting
it
to
the
curb,
but
this
would
eliminate
some
of
those
things
that
putting
garbage
on
the
ground
they
can
actually
put
inside
the
compactor
going
forward.
AB
V
Another
picture
of
the
the
compactors
themselves:
you
know
we
can
actually
advertise
on
these
compactors.
We
you
know
we
can
also
use
that
to
generate
a
little
bit
more
Revenue.
Not
only
do
they
look,
you
got
to
admit,
they
look
good
and
it
looks
better
than
what
we
have
currently
right
down
there
now.
V
Just
some
some
benefits
of
the
the
smart
waste
container.
You
know
some
operation
efficiencies
increased
capacities.
This
is
how
we
want
to
look.
This
is
what
we
want
to
put
downtown
eventually,
I
like
to
see
this
all
over
the
city
of
Columbus.
V
Another
option
for
the
Uptown
district
is
this
underground.
Refuse
the
container
in
the
middle
is
a
below
ground
unit,
six
yard
container
it's
on
the
ground,
it's
installed
on
the
ground.
He
has
the
technology
in
it
as
well.
It
tells
you
when
it
needs
to
be
dumped.
This
is
another
way
that
we
can
eliminate
the
bags
and
the
trash
on
the
curb
for
the
uptime
district
on
the
left.
You
know:
that's
a
that's
a
portable
container
that
we
can
use
for
special
events.
V
You
know
for
household
garbage,
you
know
we
use
special
events
and
then
on
the
right.
We
have
the
the
recycle.
We
can
also
use
for
the
special
events
going
forward,
some
above
ground
units.
You
know
portable.
We
can
get
these
portable
or
stationary.
This
would
be
an
upgrade.
You
know
for
the
Uptown
service
going
forward
as
well.
Now
the
next
slide
that
I'm
going
to
present
to
you
is
a
video
of
an
individual,
putting
a
container
a
a
bag
in
the
container.
For
you
know,
it's
an
ease
of
use.
V
Is
what
the
city
manager
was
referring
to
is
saying
Cloud,
but
this
is
the
city
of
Kissimmee,
which
is
right
there
in
Saint
Cloud,
and
they
were
the
first
cities
that
I
know
that
implemented
the
underground
system.
AL
AK
System
is
an
underground
trash
container.
More
than
six
cubic
yards
of
trash
can
be
placed
here.
That's
about
12
to
15
96,
gallon
cans
of
trash.
It's
11
feet
deep
in
a
five
ton
concrete
bunker.
The
container
is
then
lifted
by
a
crane
system
onto
this
auto
car
truck
that
collects
the
solid
waste
then
takes
it
to
the
landfill.
It's.
Z
AL
Z
AL
AK
V
We
understand
that
sometimes
some
of
these
underground
refuse
units
they
won't
work
in
an
uptime
District.
However,
there
are
other
places
within
the
city
of
Columbus
that
we
can
actually
Implement
those
containers
going
forward
foreign
recycling
program.
Let's
talk
about
that.
A
little
bit
we've
distributed
approximately
35
000
cars
to
customers
on
an
average
wheat
Service,
approximately
24,
000
customers
weekly,
our
residential
participation
rate
is
about
35,
which
is
low,
and
that's
something
that
we
want
to
increase.
V
We
want
to
get
it
up
to
about
60
65
percent,
going
forward
in
the
future
below
we
have
a
list
of
of
grants,
that's
going
to
assist
us
and
and
and
and
upgrading
our
program
to
where
it
really
needs
to
be
at
as
far
as
advertising.
You
know
carts
other
equipment
that
we
need
in
order
to
go
forward.
We've
secured
about
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
Grants
going
forward
and
we
will
begin.
We've
started
implementing
that
using
those
Grant
funds
going
forward.
V
The
recycling
collection
is
currently.
This
is
our
curbside
also
as
well.
We
currently
have
eight
automated
side
loaders
that
we're
currently
using
that's
been
in
the
operation
since
2020.
we're
gonna
We
got
some
side
loads
that
are
coming
in
that
have
been
marked
recycling,
which
is
three
of
them.
We're
going
to
add
to
that
program,
we're
going
to
eliminate
the
the
real
loaders
out
of
that
program
and
we're
going
to
have
a
total
of
11
automated
recycling
trucks.
That's
going
to
service
the
city.
V
V
Recycling
center-
this
is
what
we
took
in
last
year.
At
tonnages
and
I
figured
our
intake
was
about
eight
10
000
tons
tons
that
we
actually
processed
was
about
8
000
tons.
We
processed
about
962
tons
per
month
of
recyclables
221
times
per
week,
5.5
tons
per
hour
and
the
revenue
rebate
that
we
received
428
thousand
dollars
and
then
that's
an
average
about
38
000
a
month
that
we've
received
in
rebates,
Staffing
levels.
Our
staffing
levels
are
are
the
same.
V
Our
landfills
going
forward.
We
got
five
landfills
here
in
in
the
city
that
we
are
responsible
for.
We
got
Pine
Grove,
which
is
where
we
take
our
garbage
Granite
Bluff,
where
we
take
our
Inn
at
green
waste,
Chautauqua
Road.
This
actually
was
an
old
MSW
facility.
That
is
not
closed.
Oxbow
Meadows
inert
is
a
closed
facility
and
then
Wilson
camp
is
a
a
facility
that
we
inherited
that
and
we
think
that
was
probably
MSW
as
well
and
our
staffing
levels.
There
we
got
a
vacancy
there.
V
We
got
a
division
manager
vacancies
there.
We
got
a
acting
in
from
right.
Now
we
got
two
maintenance
workers
that
are
open
right
now
out
there,
our
landfill
and
recycling
operations.
You
know
we're
in
need
of
equipment,
we
are
just
we
adapt
to
the
to
the
Bare
Bones.
You
know
we
spending
more
money,
it's
down
more
than
it's
up,
and
you
know
some
of
these
pieces
that
are
up
on
your
board
right
now.
V
We've
actually
put
them
in
a
budget
and
for
FY
24,
but
they
were
not
approved,
but
it's
something
that
we
need
in
order
to
maintain
or
sustain
our
operations
going
forward.
The
compactors,
the
D7
Dozer,
that
we
use
in
our
landfills
skid
steers
that
we
use
to
push
around
the
recyclables
at
our
facilities,
the
front
loaders
that
we
also
use
at
the
recycling
center
and
the
landfill.
And
then
we
got
our
off-road
vehicles
that
we
utilize
out
of
that
landfill
out.
Pine
Bluffs
Grand
field.
V
In
order
to
say
in
this
operation
we're
going
to
need
to
replace
some
of
these
vehicles
here
as
soon
as
possible
going
forward
and
before
I
turn
it
over
to
Abby.
I
want
to
just
give
you
a
quick
summary
of
what
we
just
talked
about
right,
quick
and.
Q
I
D
J
V
All
right,
quick,
summary
before
I
turn
it
over
to
rake
study,
consultant
I
just
want
to
say.
In
order
for
us
to
be
able
to
sustain
you
know,
operation.
Some
of
these
things
have
to
you
know.
V
You
know
the
one
card
automated
system
you
know,
needs
to
be
approved
to
create
efficiency
and
encourage
and
enhance
recycling
approval
of
the
ordinance
changes,
the
verbiage
going
forward,
phasing
out
and
waste
and
assuming
all
responsibilities
when
it
comes
to
yard
waste
approval
of
the
hiring
of
the
14
backers,
the
solid
waste
workers,
approval
of
collecting
all
offer
service
on
the
same
day,
approving
a
new
holiday
collection
schedule,
which
we
will
be
looking
at
again
when
it
comes
to
Monday
versus
Friday.
V
We'll
certainly
look
at
that
and
change
collection
days,
Monday
through
Thursday,
and
that's
what
we're
going
to
actually
be
looking
at
is
looking
at
the
Monday
versus
the
Friday
and
we'll
bring
that
back
to
you
going
forward,
invest
in
some
of
the
solar
digital
compactors
that
was
presented
to
you
here.
Invest
in
the
underground
digital
refuse
system,
which
is,
is
an
enhancement
for
for
the
Uptown
District,
as
well
as
the
above
ground
system
for
special
events.
Compactors
roll
off
all
these
different
things,
all
these
different
options.
V
That
would
only
enhance
the
Uptown
area,
the
city
of
Columbus
all
over,
and
we
think
these
things
will
work
perfectly
we'll
work
greatly
within
our
community
and
it's
something
that
we
need
to
get
to
the
next
level.
Approval
of
Integrated
Waste
equipment
replacement.
What
we
just
talked
about
the
the
compactors,
the
dozers
and
all
those
things
that
that
we're
in
desperately
need
at
our
landfills
and
our
recycling
processing
center.
Lastly,
I
just
want
to
give
you
this
nugget
and
I
just
want
to
say
we
do
amazing.
V
K
If,
if
I'm
not
wrong,
I
think
in
the
past
that
we've
anticipated
a
lot
more
Revenue
to
come
in
on
Recycling
and
it's
at
428
I
think
that's
a
lot
lower
than
what
we
projected
in
the
past.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
I'd
like
to
ask
you,
you
know:
I
get
a
lot
of
questions
from
my
constituents
about
the
various
aspects
of
recycling.
What.
C
K
Actually
getting
a
return
for
when
we
collect,
we
take
it,
and
then
we
most
the
time
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
I
think
it
goes
to
a
regional
center
and
then
at
the
regional
center.
They
reimburse
us
I,
don't
know
what
they're
paying
today
at
today's
rates,
but
there
were
times
that
they
wouldn't
even
take
I.
Believe
glass
I,
don't
think
they
took
certain
items.
K
So
I
guess
my
question
is
I,
don't
think
we're
generating
near
the
revenue
that
we
intended
out
of
the
recycling
center.
But
what
are
they
actually
are
we?
What
are
they
actually
paying
for
and
are
there
recyclables
that
we
have
to
pay
them
to
take
to
dispose
of,
and
then
are
there
recyclables
that
are
being
sent
to
our
landfills?
That
we
can't
do
anything
with.
V
V
Doing
sir,
we,
when
it's
dropped
off
to
our
recycling
center,
we
actually
clean
it
up.
So
we
take
a
take
out
the
residue
we
take
out
non-recyclables
and
we
just
take
it
across
the
street
to
our
landfill
going.
You
know,
that's
that's
what
we
do
with
it,
so
it
doesn't
cost
us
anything
to
get
it
from
get
it
across
the
street.
Going
forward
we're
recycling,
newspaper
plastic,
you
know
cardboard,
all
those
all
those
things
that
are
on
the
top
of
your
cart.
I.
V
K
V
D
K
AH
AH
AH
V
K
AB
K
AJ
K
AH
M
In
that
and
that
you
got
to
make
this
point
for
those
listening
by
television,
we
cannot
afford
what
to
purchase
additional
land
to
dump
trash
for
landfills,
and
so,
while
we
do
get
some
revenue
from
recycling,
there's
a
value
that
you
haven't
calculated.
M
We
kept
ten
thousand
five
hundred
tons
out
of
the
landfill
that
extended
the
life
of
the
landfill,
and
you
cannot
you've
got
to
have
a
value
there.
So
the
value
that
you
get
in
Revenue,
plus
the
value
of
not
filling
up
land
for
your
with
recyclables
that
shortens
the
life
of
the
landfill
that
will
will
have
any
more
land
in
Muscogee
County
to
create
you've
got
five
landfills.
We
don't
need
six,
and
so
our
goal
is
to
preserve,
extend
the
life
of
the
landfill
in
our
lifetime,
our
children,
a
lifetime.
K
K
To
take
it,
whether
it's
my
point
is
whether
it's
our
landfill
or
their
landfill,
if
you,
we
know
how
much
we're
getting
I
guess
really.
What
I
wanted
to
know
is
without
getting
into
the
weeds.
Is
that
so
we're
getting
428
thousand
dollars
in
Revenue?
What
does
it
cost
us
to
run
the
recycling
about
two
plus
million.
M
We
can
pull
the
budget
numbers
if
you'll
look,
Deputy
city
manager,
Hodge
and
tell
you
what
the
recycling
budget.
K
M
The
time
and
I
get
it
and
that's
why
I
was
talking
to
the
television
a
minute
ago,
yeah
about
land
I'm
talking
to
the
TV,
because
I
want
citizens
to
understand
that,
while
the
revenue
from
a
layperson
standpoint
may
look
like
you're
only
recovering
35
percent
of
your
cost
or
whatever
it
is,
we
don't
have
an
option
of
not
recycling,
because
we
have
got
to
preserve
and
extend
the
life
of
the
landfill
that
we
have
left
and
I.
Don't
know
if
it's
30
years
or
35
years
now,
30
years
30.!
M
K
The
landfill
is
an
issue
okay,
so
that's
the
landfill
now
look
you're
kind
of
making
an
argument
for
me
that
maybe
we
ought
to
consider
the
private
Services.
They
have
landfills
too,
but
at
what
cost?
I
don't
know,
but
the
reason
we
recycle
is
we
do
it
for
a
benefit
to
humanity
and
the
things
we
believe
in
in
the
earth
and
to
keep
keep
from
over
polluting
or
causing
those
societal
issues
that
we
deal
with
every
day.
K
That's
one
of
the
reasons
we
recycle,
so
we
don't
have
to
do
those
kind
of
things
and
keep
it
out
of
the
waters.
Keep
it
on
lakes,
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
the
landfill
is
a
whole
different
issue
and
that
you
know
you're
going
to
have
to
get
around
it.
But
if
you're
selling
a
product
that
does
not
go
to
the
market
yeah,
it's
a
cost
to
the
city,
it's
going
to
someone's
landfill.
If.
M
If
we
could
afford
it,
yeah
and
and
I
get
that,
but
you
said
I'm
making
an
argument
for
Contracting
it
now.
I
will
contract
it
out
tomorrow
if
we
could
afford
it,
but
if
the
citizens
could
afford
it
because
their
our
10
million
dollar
budget,
we
pay
amways
10
million
dollars
last
year
for
a
portion
of
service
and
so
I
I'd
love
to
contract.
It
out.
J
J
However,
that's
an
investment
in
the
future
of
the
landfill,
which
is
also
an
investment
in
the
future
of
Columbus
Georgia,
so
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
to
get
a
complete
Financial
study
to
just
to
determine,
because
while
it
costs
us
1.2
and
we
might
be
generating
428,
so
that
leaves
us
about
six
hundred
thousand
the
value
to
not
having
to
close
that
landfill.
How
much
earlier
would
you
have
closed
it
and
then
you'd
have
post-closure
costs?
Then
you've
got
to
start
doing.
J
The
monitoring
you've
got
the
EPA,
which
are
three
million
dollars
to
five
million
dollars
a
year,
just
to
try
to
continue
to
monitor
those.
So
if
we
can
push
that
down
the
road,
my
perspective
I
don't
mean
it's
not
so
cynical
but
I'm,
hoping
we'll
come
up
with
some
newer
technologies
that
allows
us
to
deal
with
this.
We've
got
about
30
years
to
try
and
I
think
that
will
continue
to
grow
as
we
can.
K
K
But
you
know
it's
sad
to
know
that
some
of
these
things
and
we're
collecting
them
as
recyclables
but
they're
not
really
they're,
going
to
the
landfill
where
they're
tires
or
somewhere
else.
It's
sad,
but
hopefully
we
can
get
those
things
worked
out
to.
AJ
J
That's
where
they
go
but
but
there's
a
vast
majority
of
it
is
is,
is
being
marketed,
albeit
at
a
lower
rate
than
we'd
like,
but
it's
being
remarkable.
M
And
man
I'd
love
to
come
back
with
a
study
of
recycling,
the
cost
versus
benefit
and
and
that's
why
I
bring
up
landfill
and
extending
life,
because
you
can't
talk
about
one
that
you
bring
in
428
000
revenue
and
you're
spending,
1.2
million.
M
Without
talking
about
the
value
of
not
filling
up
your
landfill
with
all
this
stuff,
and
then
you
got
to
go
by
profit
or
you
need
to
contract
out,
and
if
you
contract
out
and
they're
going
to
take
it
to
Taylor
County,
there's
going
to
be
a
landfill
cost
to
them
transporting
it
and
because
Taylor
County
is
not
going
to,
let
you
dump
it
for
free
or
they
take
it
over
to
Alabama
somewhere
and
use
their
landfill.
They
don't
do
it
for
free
it
costs.
And
so
you
got
to
talk
about
both.
K
J
J
AC
It's
probably
not
an
easy
thing
to
listen
to
after
you've
been
sitting
for
so
many
hours,
but
I'll
do
my
best
to
make
it
brief
and
as
entertaining
as
possible.
So
what
I'm
presenting
here
is
the
results
of
the
most
recent
scenario.
We've
run
looking
at
what
the
cost
of
providing
each
Solid
Waste,
Service
and
facility
that
Columbus
provides,
is
so
calculating
total
costs
and
then
telling
you
what
the
rates
would
need
to
be
to
cover
those
costs,
they're,
not
rate
recommendations.
AC
They
are
showing
you
if
each
of
your
customers
be
it
landfill
customers,
recycling
facility
customers,
Uptown,
business,
district,
garbage
collection,
customers,
your
residential
collect
collection,
customers,
how
much
each
of
them
would
pay
if
they
paid
their
fair
share.
A
lot
of
places,
don't
necessarily
choose
to
allocate
costs
that
way.
So
the
presentation
is
just
based
on
the
cost
of
service
calculated
for
each
service
and
facility.
Columbus
provides
if
everyone
paid
their
fair
share.
AC
What
would
the
fees
need
to
be
in
FY,
24
and
each
year
for
the
next
10
years,
we're
taking
into
account
all
your
business
units
all
the
units
that
is
your
service
and
facilities
and
we're
looking
not
only
at
operating
costs?
That
would
be
pretty
straightforward,
but
we're
also
looking
at
how
much
you
have
left
to
pay
on
your
leases
associated
with
solid
waste
equipment,
the
capital
costs
for
future
equipment
purchases
in
the
year
in
which
they're
anticipated.
AC
So
we
look
at
the
life
of
all
your
current
equipment
and
when
will
you
need
to
replace
it
and
then,
lastly,
like
we
were
just
discussing?
How
much
do
you
need
to
set
aside
for
the
next
phase
of
the
landfill
closure
post
closure
costs
that'll
hit
in
2077
has
now
projected
so
we're
looking
way
out
to
make
sure
there's
money
in
the
bank
to
pay
those
big
costs
when
they
hit,
even
if,
when
they
hit
those
decades
from
now
foreign,
so
the
operating
costs
are
easy
right.
They
just
increase
pretty
steadily
with
inflation.
AC
This
shows
you
in
each
year,
FY
24
through
FY
33.
What
the
projected
operating
cost
would
be
for
each
of
the
units
or
in
your
case
it
each
of
the
services
you
provide
in
each
of
the
facilities
you
provide.
So
you
can
see
the
big
hit.
The
big
expenses
in
operations
is
primarily
for
solid
waste
collection,
and
that
includes
your
residential
and
your
commercial
customers,
the
Pine
Grove
landfill.
That's
the
orange
piece
and
yard
waste
collection.
That's
the
top
piece,
that's
brown!
AC
So
what
this
shows
you
is
operating
costs,
basically
from
12
million
escalating
with
inflation
up
to
a
little
bit
more
than
17
million
over
the
years.
So
when
I'm
doing
the
analysis,
what
this
says
is
if
I
was
only
trying
to
cover
operating
costs,
your
fees
would
be
pretty
steadily
increasing,
with
inflation
and
predictable,
but.
AC
I'm
gonna
stop
the
equipment
yeah
when
we
look
at
Capital
costs,
and
this
is
both
your
purchases
for
equipment.
That's
the
green
part
and
your
facility
set
aside
so
again,
I'm
I'm,
going
ahead
now
and
setting
aside
money
each
year
for
closure
and
post
closure
of
your
landfill
development
of
your
landfill.
So
you
can
see
those
are
spread
throughout
the
years
between
now
and
the
time.
You'll
need
it.
But
the
bottom
line
is
These
Bars
jump
up
and
down
dramatically
right.
AC
What
these
are,
your
biggest
Capital
costs
for
new
facilities
and
buildings,
the
biggest
ones
being,
of
course,
Pine
Grove
landfill
predicted,
19
and
a
half
million
dollars
for
the
next
cell
developments,
and
when,
when
the
city
manager
talks
about
the
land
where
the
space
reserved
in
the
landfill,
so
you
don't
have
to
spend
that
19
and
a
half
million
10
years
earlier.
You
can
see
that's
a
pretty
big
hit,
but
that
set
aside
per
year
in
the
far
right
column
is
what
I've
incorporated
into
your
rates.
AC
What
I've
incorporated
into
the
cost
of
service.
So
we're
setting
aside
money
starting
today,
for
example,
for
the
post-closure
cost
that
will
hit
in
2078..
So
this
is
just
to
show
you
that
we
really
are
looking
at
all
potential
future
costs
all
expected
future
costs
when
we're
calculating
the
cost
of
the
services
and
Facilities
you'll
provide
each
year
and
what
kind
of
fees
you'd
need
to
charge
to
cover
those.
AC
Here
are
some
examples
for
equipment.
You
saw
that
green
bar
part
of
the
bar
and
capital
expenses
jumped
up
and
down
pretty
dramatically
going
from
a
half
million
dollars
in
this
fiscal
year
to
9.2
million
next
year.
When
you
need
some
significant
as
Mr
Pittman
chose
you,
some
significant
Capital
expenditures
for
landfill
equipment
and
some
other
facilities
I
mean
some
other
equipment.
AC
AC
So
to
distribute
the
Caps,
which
I'm
trying
to
even
it
out
a
little
bit
over
the
next
10
years
to
calculate
what
kind
of
costs
what
kind
of
fees
you'd
need
to
charge
each
of
your
customers
to
cover
those
costs.
So
to
do
that,
I
took
away
some
things
that
are
not
necessarily
Capital
costs
that
are
not
necessarily
feasible
to
spend
that
kind
of
money
in
some
of
the
near
terms.
Yet,
if
you
have
something
you
need
to
spend
money
on
in
10
years,
it's
easier
to
save
for
it
now.
AC
So
what
I've
done
in
the
scenario
I'm
going
to
show?
You
is,
first
of
all
a
couple
of
your
big
building:
Capital
costs
in
the
near
term,
so
in
the
next
year
or
two
for
which
no
funds
are
improved
accrued
to
date,
I've
assumed
that
we're
not
going
to
generate
revenue
from
fees
right
now
to
cover
those
costs,
so
either
the
cost
will
have
to
be
delayed
or
we'll
have
to
find
another
funding
source
for
the
compost
pad
and
the
new
Convenience
Center.
AC
We
had
anticipated
several
million
dollars
in
fy25
nothing's
accrued
for
that
right
now,
so
we're
assuming
that's
not
going
to
be
covered
by
the
fees
calculated
for
right
now.
The
equipment
that
Mr
Pittman
showed
you
was
so
desperately
needed.
It's
also
several
million
dollars
wouldn't
be
able
to
add
that
on
to
the
fees
charged
in
the
near
term,
so
we've
delayed
some
of
those
purchases
saying
we'll
still
use
fees
but
we'll
buy
them
primarily
in
FY
26.
AC
That
is
primarily
because
you
just
had
16
million
dollars
of
equipment
purchases
funded
by
the
ARP
funds
right,
so
money
you
didn't
have
to
spend.
That
would
need
to
be
the
typical
life
of
that
kind
of
equipment.
Seven
years
on
those
trucks,
so
we're
re
we're,
purchasing
and
replacing
all
those
in
FY
30.
So
we
assume
you're
not
going
to
get
another
16
million
inflated
from
federal
government.
AC
So
that's
a
big
hit
in
FY
30
to
replace
all
the
trucks
that
you're
just
getting
now
so
we've
distributed
those
among
over
three
years:
FY
29,
30
and
31.
Instead
of
buying
them
all
in
30.
and
then
same
thing
with
the
recycling
trucks
instead
of
buying
them
all
in
30,
we're
doing
half
and
31
and
a
half
and
30..
AC
AC
So
the
next
step
was
okay.
If
that's
the
revenue
requirement,
who
should
be
paying
to
cover
each
each
of
those
pieces
of
the
bar,
your
collect
just
to
remind
you.
You've
got
more
than
just
your
residence
and
more
than
just
your
landfill
customers.
You've
got
residential
collection,
customers
they're,
the
ones
who
get
the
three
cards.
AC
AC
You've
got
other
departments
that
are
that
the
Integrated
Waste
group
is
servicing
right
now,
they're,
not
paying
for
that
service,
and
then
you've
got
apartments
and
schools
that
that
Columbus
is
giving
free
recycling
service
to.
AC
So
that's
the
cert,
that's
the
collection
you
offer
right
now.
Facilities
are
Pine
Grove
landfill,
where
you
have
private.
In
addition
to
your
own
trucks.
Coming
in
there,
you've
got
private
haulers,
you've
got
individual
self-halling
citizens,
you've
got
Columbus,
Water,
Works
and
you've
got
several
other
departments
coming
in
to
Pine
Grove,
same
kind
of
customers
at
Granite,
Bluff
and
then.
Lastly,
you've
got
customers
that
are
not
inside.
You've
got
you've
got
your
own
Department
of
Public
Works
trucks,
but
you
have
other
non
-columbus
trucks
coming
into
the
recycling
facility.
AC
So
here's
the
total
revenue-
this
is
just
an
example:
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
every
one
of
those
customers.
I
just
showed
you,
but
for
your
residence.
Here's
an
example
of
how
much
revenue
would
need
to
be
raised
from
each
of
your
residential
because
not
eat
from
all
of
your
residential
customers
to
cover
the
cost
of
solid
waste
collection,
recyclable
collection,
operating
Granite,
Bluff
operating
Pine,
Grove
operating
the
recycling
center
and
collecting
yard
waste.
F
AC
I'm,
just
showing
you
an
exam
I
am
going
to
tell
you
for
every
single
customer
type
what
their
fees
would
need
to
be
to
share
their
portion
of
the
cost.
What
I'm
saying
is
I'm
only
showing
you
how
I
did
that
breakdown
for
the
residential?
Just
to
show
you
how
the
methodology
worked,
so
I
will
show
you
the
revenue
required
from
each
of
your
customer
types
and
what
their
Associated
fees
would
be
to
cover
that
I.
D
F
AC
AC
AC
So
what
I'll
be
showing
you
is
the
fees
needed
I
might
have
to
reiterate
this,
because
these
are
not
recommended
fees.
That's
a
decision
to
be
made
by
staff
and
by
Council
what
I'm,
showing
you
is
if
everybody
paid
their
fair
share.
This
is
what
their
fees
would
be.
AC
It's
also.
There
are
a
lot
of
assumptions
in
this
model
that
were
created
with
staff,
but
just
to
be
on
the
conservative
side,
we've
assumed
all
custom.
You
have
to
keep
the
same
number
of
customers
of
all
types,
so
the
same
number
of
tons
coming
from
each
of
the
people,
kinds
of
haulers
coming
to
the
landfill
Remains,
the
Same
over
10
years.
You
have
the
same
number
of
residential
customers
over
the
next
10
years.
Any
of
those
can
be
modified
for
another
scenario,
but
that's
the
scenario
we're
showing.
AC
So
here's
your
first
example
is
the
res
or
your
first
result.
These
are
the
residential
fees
so
for
your
residents
to
cover
their
cost,
the
cost
that
they
get
from
the
the
services
they
get,
including
all
their
collection
services,
including
the
use
of
the
land,
their
portion
of
the
landfill
they're
using
their
portion
of
granite
Bluff,
their
portion
of
the
recycling
center.
Basically,
the
residential
fees
would
need
to
go
up
to
about
25
dollars
per
month,
if
they're,
if
you're
charging
them
for
extra
cards.
AC
Remember
we
had
that
conversation
earlier
when
Mr
Pitman
was
speaking
about.
Would
there
be
a
charge
for
extra
cards
right
now?
There
is
not.
It
does
make
sense
in
most
communities
that
are
charging
a
monthly
fee.
If
they
provide
an
extra
cart,
they
charge
a
fee,
a
monthly
fee
for
that
extra
card.
That's
usually
someone
what
less
than
the
first
part,
but
not
necessarily,
it
just
depends
on
what
the
what
the
motivation
of
the
government
is.
AC
The
local
government
is,
but
if
you
charge
and
we've
we've
estimated,
how
many
people
would
request
an
extra
cart
if
you
charge
for
the
extra
Car
25
a
month?
Should
be
sufficient
for
those
ordering
One
cart,
if
you
don't,
that
rate
has
to
be
28
and
10
cents
a
month.
So
you
see
the
kind
of
difference
of
offering
extra
service
to
certain
customers
and
not
others,
just
by
with
the
way
what
they
do
in
some
communities
and
some
communities
around
Georgia
is
they
have
multiple
size
cards.
You
want
a
bigger
cart.
AC
You
pay
more
money
every
month,
you
get
a
smaller
cart.
You
pay
less
money
because,
frankly,
the
neighbor
with
six
kids-
and
you
know
a
big
birthday
party
every
month
and
the
example
of
of
the
council
member-
is
using
more
service,
more
landfill
space,
more
collection
service,
more
room
on
the
truck
than
the
single
person
who's
living
next
door,
typically
and
just
putting
out
their
canned
every
two
or
three
weeks,
because
that's
when
it's
full.
R
Did
you
take
into
account
that
for
the
yard
waste
in
the
fall
in
in
Georgia,
if
you've,
driven
through
our
streets
and
people
are
cleaning
up,
their
lawns
with
from
leaves,
is
drastically
different
than
July
in
Georgia?
When
everything
is
burnt,
so
are
our
citizens
expect
say,
say
people
wanted
three
carts,
three
yard
waste
carts?
R
AC
So
the
analysis
assumes
Smooths
out
the
cost,
for
example,
of
yard,
worse
Waste
Service
for
the
whole
year,
but
it
answered
your
question:
it's
typically
a
subscription
service.
In
other
words,
if
you
want
two
or
three
yard
waste
carts,
then
you
subscribe
and
you
get
it
and
you
keep
it
until
most
communities.
Also
say
you
can
it's
a
six
month
commitment
or
a
three-month
commitment?
But
generally
you
know
that
costs
money
to
deliver
a
cart.
Take
it
away,
deliver
a
cart!
Take
it
away!
So
generally.
AC
AC
So
the
fees
for
other
customers
and
what
we
were
looking
at
was
comparing
current
fees.
You
know
proposing
what
current
fees
were
versus
what
the
fee
would
need
to
be
to
cover
their
share
of
the
revenue
required
for
the
services
and
Facilities.
They
use
current
fees
for
the
commercial
curbside
customers
who
now
pay
240
dollars
a
month
for
the
right.
If
they're
on
the
right-of-way
and
320
a
month
off
the
right
away,
that
gets
them.
AC
Two
32
gallon
pickups
a
week
is
sufficient
to
cover
their
share
of
the
facility
and
services
they
use
for
the
whole
10-year
period.
So
what
they're
paying
is
also
already
sufficient
the
per
bag
cost.
So
what
the
stickers
bought
in
the
Uptown
business
district
now
costs
two
dollars
per
bag.
Their
share
of
the
cost
would
require
them
to
pay
six
dollars
and
seventy
cents
per
sticker.
So
that's
a
place
you're
under
recovering
for
what
they
receive
the
service
they
receive
right
now.
AC
I
will
tell
you,
because
I
did
this
analysis
for
you
a
couple
years
ago.
Part
of
that
reason
is
because
their
total
revenue
needed
to
cover
their
what
they're
using
is
divided
among
fewer
stickers.
You
only
sold
1
345
stickers
last
year
when
I
last
time.
I
did
the
analysis.
It
was
significantly
more.
That's
not
a
big
surprise
right.
That
downtown
has
generated
less
garbage
during
the
pandemic
when
fewer
people
were
going
to
work
down
there
right.
AC
So
if
you
spread
that
over
more
stickers,
if
you
went
back
up
to
2000
or
2500,
costs
would
go
up
a
little
bit,
but
not
enough
to
require
that
kind
of
increase.
In
other
words,
it
might
be
closer
to
450
or
five
dollars
per
sticker.
If
we
went
ahead
and
assumed
you're
selling,
what
you
were
selling
back
in
2019
makes
sense
right
now.
AC
You've
got
it's
not
as
high
as
it
was
a
couple
years
ago,
either
it's
almost
as
high
but
I
think
it
was
19
apartment,
buildings,
sorry
and
15
schools
getting
free
recycling
service
from
Columbus,
and
maybe
you
want
to
continue
that?
Maybe
you
want
to
continue
that
just
for
the
schools,
but
if
they
were
to
cover
the
full
cost
of
going
out
there
getting
their
recyclables
taking
them
to
the
recycling
center
we'd
be
talking
fourteen
dollars
per
at
per
month
to
get
that
service.
That's
what
the
true
cost
is.
AC
For
tipping
fees
at
Pine
Grove,
you
can
see
the
far
left
column
is
the
current
rate
of
42.50
for
municipal,
solid
waste
and
construction
and
demolition
debris.
Special
waste
is
sixty
dollars
now
and
remember.
This
is
not
the
fee
that
I
suggested
is
needed
for
to
cover
the
cost
for
residential
customers.
It
includes
their
share
of
using
the
landfill.
AC
So
this
is
not
in
addition
for
them.
This
is
the
fee
charged
private,
haulers
citizens
that
are
bringing
their
ways
the
cost.
The
other
departments
that
aren't
paying
now
at
the
landfill.
Wait
they
don't
pay
at
Granite
Bluff.
Do
they
pay
it?
Did
the
other
departments
pay
you
when
they
come
to
Pine
Grove?
Yes,
so
it's
just
Granite
Bluff,
so
we'll
get
to
that
in
a
minute.
AC
But
you
see
the
fee
would
need
to
go
up
pretty
significantly
to
61.60
for
regular
MSW
and
construction
and
demolition
debris
to
fully
cover
those
customers,
landfill
customers,
cost
of
operating
the
landfill
and
buying
the
new
equipment
and
setting
aside
funds
for
future
development,
closure
and
post-closure.
That's
a
big
jump
and,
what's
not
considered
here
and
very
possible
is
42.50
is
probably
a
little
lower
than
the
competitive
rate
at
other
transfer
stations
and
landfills
in
the
area.
6160
is
probably
above
it.
These
folks
have
a
choice.
AC
So
at
what
point
did
they
start
going
somewhere
else,
meaning
you
have
less
tonnage
a
good
thing
as
far
as
saving
space,
but
a
bad
thing
as
far
as
cost
per
time?
Right?
If
your
tonnage
goes
down
because
they
go
somewhere
else,
then,
and
the
operating
costs
don't
go
down
equally,
then
your
cost
per
ton
would
be
higher.
So
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
considered.
H
Oh
yes,
I
was
asking
reference
to
the
non
paying
individuals.
Can
you
say
those
again
was
it.
AC
H
H
AC
M
M
AH
H
AC
So
great
I'll
scoot
on,
if
you
don't
mind
so
Granite
Bluff,
the
tip
fees
would
need
to
if,
if
Columbus
Water,
Works
and
the
other
departments
continue
not
to
pay
so
to
tip
there
for
free,
then
the
tip
fee
would
need
to
go
up.
400
percent
for
those
citizens
and
self-holers
that
are
going
to.
H
H
That's
my
main
concern
is
to
focus
on
our
citizens
and
what
they
pay
because
businesses,
you
know,
Columbus
Water,
Works,
come
and
stand
up
here
like
every
year
with
we're
going
to
increase
your
fees,
so
I
just
feel
like
we
can
increase
a
fee
to
Columbus
Water
Works
to
ensure
that
our
citizens
don't
pay
170
dollars
per
ton,
one
because
we're
talking
about
implementing
this
new
system
and
if
we
Implement
that
new
system
I
think
we
need
to
push
citizens
to
and
matter
of
fact,
that's
what
I
always
say
when
we
they're
dumping
over
at
the
Old
Post
Office
off
Buena
Vista
Road
to
go
out
there
and
actually
take
your
trash.
H
H
M
H
AH
H
AC
So,
first
this
is
it's
exactly
why
we
kind
of
ran
two
scenarios
with
regard
to
Grant
up
love,
because
what
would
the
rate
increase
be
for
Citizens
and
private
haulers?
These
are
primarily
private
haulers
and
they
only
make
up
33
of
what
goes
into
Granite
Bluff
so
but
they're
paying
full
cost.
So
so
we
ran
this
two
ways
to
show
what
would
happen
if
everybody
paid
versus
what
would
happen
if
you
kept
the
status
quo.
I'm.
Sorry
well,.
M
And
I
was
just
going
to
say
to
the
counselor's
point:
I
look
at
other
departments
in
you
know
they
provide
things
for
us
that
we
pay
for
to
get
that
service
from
them
and
unless
they
are
waiving
something
like
with
the
school
district
we
get
together
and
there's
a
you
know,
we
look
at
what
we
get
from
them,
what
they
get
from
us.
Let's
say
they
don't
charge
us
for
having
after
school
program
at
the
school.
It's.
AM
M
M
H
AC
And
the
reason
the
fee
is
so
high
is
in
part,
because
it's
only
33
percent
of
the
tonnage
is
getting
charged
for,
but
also
because
the
total
tonnage
is
not
that
much
so
again.
You're
operating
this
facility,
the
budget's,
not
that
big.
But
if
you
spread
it
among
so
few
tons
relative
to
say,
Pine
Grove,
it's
a
lot
per
ton.
I
Slide
11,
you
show
that
the
granite
Bluff
Revenue
required
jumps
up
in
fiscal
year.
33.
Are
you
assuming
a
change
that
happens
in
that
year?.
I
On
on
slide,
11.
yeah,
so
fiscal
year,
33,
you
show
a
jump
in
revenue
for
granite
Bluff.
AC
So
that's
Granite,
Bluff
and
then
the
recycling
center.
Again,
this
is
people
outside
of
Columbus
bringing
materials
to
the
recycling
center,
because
everybody
else's
was
accounted
for
in
their
collection.
Fees
would
need
to
increase
double
to
cover
the
full
cost
of
operating
the
recycling
center
over
the
next
two
years
to
meet
the
revenue
requirement.
AC
AC
D
L
AC
AC
AC
You
can
see
what
I'm,
assuming
here,
I
what
I
with
regard
to
Granite,
Bluff,
I,
I
kind
of
did
a
backward
analysis
of
what
Columbus
Water
Works
and
the
other
departments
would
have
to
pay
per
ton
to
be
able
to
leave
the
current
tipping
fee
at
34,
a
ton
to
fully
meet
Revenue
required,
and
it
was
twenty
dollars
a
ton.
H
AC
So
the
commercial
curbside
or
businesses
that
Department
of
Public
Works
serves
with
their
rear
loaders.
The
first
line
that
residential
curbside
customer
is
all
your
residents,
and
that
is
everything
that
that's
the
monthly
fee
for
everything
they
get,
including
garbage
collection,
yard,
waste
collection,
recycling
collection
every
week
and
their
share
of
the
use
of
Pine,
Grove
and
granite
Bluff.
H
AC
M
That's
where
I
was
talking
earlier
about
whatever
fee
it
would
cost
for
a
second
cart,
the
monthly
rate
Remains
the
Same,
though
that
household
would
have
a
second
card.
Okay
and
and
of
course,
what
she's
provided
as
she
continues
to
say.
These
are
not
your
recommendations,
you're
just
telling
us
what
it
needs
to
be
not.
H
D
H
H
M
And
see
that's
where
I'm
saying
to
you:
oh,
if
it's
25
a
month
and
let's
say
we
charge
twenty
dollars
for
an
extra,
can
you
know
their
bill
is
still
25
a
month?
Okay,.
H
Is
everybody
paid
fairings?
This
is
not
what
we're
gonna
adopt,
because
I
just
can't
see
somebody
paying
65
dollars
per
month
when
I
know,
sadly,
because
I
wasn't
making
on
Friday
and
I.
You
know:
I
went
to
City,
Hall
and
I.
You
know
that
was
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
see
what
they
was
doing
integrated
ways
and
they
pay
a
total
of
this.
One
I
saw
that
240
I
was
like
man,
that's
what
macon's
paying.
H
They're
paying
240,
they
do
two
bills,
they
do
one
for
120
every
six
months,
so
it's
total
240
and
that's
all
they
pay
but
they're
privatized.
So
when
I
see
the
25
and
then
you
send
20
dollars
per
cart,
if
we
did
this,
some
people
are
going
to
be
paying
65
dollars.
Well,.
M
I
I
think
it's
a
crawl
walk,
run
approach
in
my
mind
and
and
that's
why
yeah
I
don't
know
what
council
will
eventually
do
if
anything
at
all,
but
at
least
we
know
our
situation
and
and
I
will
continue
to
say
that
my
Approach,
this
is
just
my
Approach-
is
to
there's
an
expense
for
an
extra
container.
H
AK
M
C
AC
AC
AC
If
you
charge
twenty
dollars
for
an
extra
car,
what
I
showed
you
earlier
was:
if
you
decide
not
to
charge
anybody
for
an
extra
card
but
say
you
can
have
two
just
let
us
know,
because
we
don't
want
you
to
litter
or
put
out
bags,
then
you
need
to
charge
all
your
citizens,
twenty
eight
dollars
and
10
cents
to
cover
that
same
total
revenue
needed
to
operate.
So
my
goal
was
just
to
show
you
what
your
options
are
not
to
make
recommendations.
R
So
is
just
a
so
I
can
wrap
my
head
around
this,
so
this
is,
if
you
were
to
take
the
all
the
costs
of
operating
the
Integrated
Waste
and
divided
among
the
citizens.
Equally,
this
isn't
this
isn't
subsidized
At
All
by
the
like
there's
no
cities
like
we
put
two
million
dollars
towards
integrated
ways,
correct
right.
R
AC
Only
Exception
I'll
make
I
mean
that
was
the
intention,
but
because
of
the
variability
and
what
you
need
each
year,
the
only
assumption
I'd
make
it
the
only
exception
I'd
make
is,
is
here
and
that's
assuming
that
we're
not
raising
enough
funds
to
cover
the
compost
pad
and
the
convenience
center
or
to
buy
that
new
landfill
equipment
next
year.
I
delayed
it
because
that
we
just
couldn't
raise
funds
fast
enough,
so
those
four
first
first,
two
bullets
might
suggest
those
funds
would
come
from
somewhere
else.
AN
F
You
so
so,
if
we
make
some
little
tweaks
because
I
agree
with
the
city
manager,
I
think
that
we
should
charge
for
the
cart
not
for
the
services,
not
a
monthly
fee,
for
the
services
charge
for
the
car,
because
there's
going
to
be
times
when
they're
not
getting
an
additional
card,
they're
replacing
a
damaged
cart
and
they
still
only
have
one
card
and
we'd
be
charging
them
twenty
dollars
a
month.
And
so
so
I
think
it's
a
one-time
cart
fee
instead.
M
F
D
D
AC
M
AC
M
AC
M
Service
I
guess
in
my
mind
they
have
a
court
prevented
by
the
city
if
we
damage
that
card
or
whatever
we
replace
that
card
at
no
cost
to
them
right
right.
However,
if
they
want
a
second
cart
because
of
the
size
of
their
family
or
the
amount
of
waste
generated
they
pay
for
that
second
car.
And
so
when
we
go
to
the
Curve,
we
will
pick
up
two
cards,
but
they.
F
AC
AC
K
This
is
a
presentation
and
we're
just
kind
of
looking
at
it,
and
certainly
I
want
to
thank
the
kind
of
lady
for
for
all
her
work
and
what
she's
done,
and
it's
somewhat
it's
an
update,
is
how
I'm
viewing
it
with
that
being
said,
you
know
we're
commissioned
as
council
members,
the
three
one
of
the
top
three
responsibilities
is
providing
sanitation
I
mean
that
is
public
services
is
one
of
our
responsibilities
when
I
in
general,
when
I,
when
I
look
at
all
this
stuff,
that's
presented,
you
know
it
just
kind
of
reminds
me
of
a
form
of
inflation
and-
and
certainly
you
can,
you
can
say,
there's
a
cost
of
living
increase
here.
K
I'm
really
concerned
the
things
I
hear
you
know
in
my
world,
I
want
to
look
at
options.
I
want
to
understand
better
I,
want
to
understand
the
impact.
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
get
a
clear
picture
of
that
impact,
but
I
know
it's
going
to
be
a
severe
impact
to
our
community
with
these
numbers
that
we're
talking
here
across
the
board,
because
they're
all
going
to
be
passed
on
to
the
citizens
in
one
way
or
another.
It's
an
increase
across
the
board.
K
Part
of
me
says:
geez
with
what
I
know
the
dumpsters
cost
them
I
just
get
a
dumpster
and
pay
350
a
month
or
390
a
month
and
just
dump
it
all
in
there
and
let
them
haul
it
away.
I
mean
that
would
be
more
cost
effective
when
I'm
just
joking,
but
you
know
if
we're
going
to
go
down
this
path,
and
certainly
options
is
important
and
I
know
of
other
cities
that
have
gone
down
this
path.
K
When
I
hear
about
what
what
I'm
looking
at
is
a
tremendous
cost
increase
but
limited
services
to
the
citizens
that
we
don't
have
today
and
at
the
same
time,
I'm
looking
at
automation,
is
at
the
end
of
the
day
is
going
to
be
a
very
costly
impact
to
our
citizens.
Is
that
the
route
we
want
to
go
on
I
know,
there's
other
communities
that
have
tried
to
go
down
this
route
and
they've
made
changes.
K
K
Don't
want
to
go
down
this
path
that
we're
trying
to
figure
out
I
hear
a
lot
of
we're
going
to
figure
it
out
as
we
go
okay,
we
should
be
doing
a
lot
of
this
on
the
front
end,
but
we
go
down
this
pad
we're
going
to
keep
doing
it,
we're
going
to
decide
to
do
it.
Knowing
there's
going
to
be
a
cost,
I,
don't
think
anybody's
going
to
put
a
number
on
it.
K
But
if
you
use
some
of
these
numbers,
which
are
just
projections,
I
mean
you're,
looking
at
anywhere
from
33
to
gosh
200
increase
and
cost
to
the
citizens
for
limited
services
or
less
Services
than
than
they
have
today.
K
If
they
want
more
they're
going
to
have
to
they're
going
to
have
to
pay
for
it,
but
I
don't
want
to
go
down
this
path
without
knowing
the
true
impact
to
our
citizens
and
to
our
community,
because
that's
what
I
want
to
sum
all
this
up,
that's
what
I'm,
seeing
and
I
understand
these
numbers
and
I,
don't
think
and
and
I've
said
this
and
I'll
say
it:
I
may
be
on
different
levels
with
everybody
else,
but
I
don't
think
it's
fair
share
across
the
board
and
what
I'm
saying
is?
K
Does
everybody
really
know
on
the
residential?
It's
only
60
000
people
paying
into
this,
but
how
many
citizens
do
we
have
in
our
community?
I
was
just
at
Cooper
Creek
over
the
weekend,
people
out
there
doing
all
kinds
of
things
throwing
stuff
in
the
garbage.
We
picked
those
up.
It
goes
to
our
landfill
people
coming
through
our
community,
whether
you
have
a
home
or
not.
You
know
if
you're,
just
focusing
and
somewhat
passing
the
cost
onto
that
group
or
the
business
sector.
K
There's
two
sides
of
this:
you
know
I,
don't
know
if
it's
really
fair
share
and
I've
said
this
many
times
about.
You
know.
We
need
to
explore
more
options
to
generate
Revenue.
It
always
falls
on
deaf
ears,
but
I've
said
it
for
years,
whether
it's
a
user
fee,
whether
it's
a
Transit
fee,
whether
it's
a
landfilled
closure
fee,
call
it
what
you
want
to,
but
I
really
believe
that
more
Citizens
need
to
pay
into
this,
maybe
not
at
this
level.
K
If
you
really
want
to
spread
the
cost
and
make
it
more
balanced
and
understanding
or
excuse
me
acceptable,
unless
burdensome
or
or
financially
impactful
to
the
citizens
of
Columbus.
To
look.
Some
of
us
can
afford
a
pet
but
I
promise
you
there's
a
vast
percentage
of
people
in
Columbus
that
cannot
pay
this
and
it's
going
to
have
an
impact,
and
it's
not
just
this.
K
It's
what
all
the
other
utilities
and
the
cost
of
living
in
the
world
we're
at
today
when
you
talk
about
inflation,
they're,
getting
hit
from
all
angles-
and
you
know
I'm
concerned
about
that
so
options
and
being
able
to
understand
the
impact
on
the
front.
End
is
really
really
important
to
me
and
I
know
right
now.
Just
these
numbers
that
we're
playing
with
I
mean
the
citizens.
Just
look
at
this
and
just
say:
look
they're
gonna.
They
want
to
automate,
we
might
get
less
services,
but
it's
going
to
cost
us
a
lot
more
money.
I
I
Because
if
we
don't
do
that,
they're
just
going
to
see
all
the
Automation
and
assume
we've
mishandled,
it
so
I
think
that
financial
analysis
of
our
strategic
direction
of
how
we
handle
Integrated
Waste
going
forward,
is,
is
very
important
and
will
be
very
helpful
and.
M
And
I
think
that
makes
sense
and
I'll
tell
you.
We've
done
a
lot
of
studies
over
the
years.
I
mean
a
lot
of
them
in
my
18
and
a
half
years
of
city
manager,
mayor
I,
know,
you've
been
around
and
you
know
that
and
and
I
remember
when
mayor
weatherington
was
was
mayor.
I
put
him
in
a
book,
councilor
Thomas
may
remember.
I
put
all
of
that.
M
Once
we
had
done
in
a
book,
booklet
gave
it
to
every
counselor,
but
but
in
one
of
the
more
recent
ones-
and
maybe
director
short
may
remember,
we
we
did
an
RFP
for
private
provider.
Director
I,
don't
know
if
you
remember
a
few
years
back,
because
we
wanted
to
have
an
option
and
that's
it
manager
High.
M
If
and
and
for
me,
I
mean
I'd
love
to
have
a
private
provider,
I
don't
mind
giving
the
private
provider
our
numbers,
you
know,
here's
the
study,
here's
what
we've
come
up
with
and
all
we
need
you
to
do
is
do
better,
because
we'd
love
to
do
business
with
you
and
so
I
think
going
out
with
an
RFP
and
providing
that
option
versus
the
in-house
automated
option
and-
and
one
reason
I
got
to
be.
You
know,
share
this.
M
The
reason
they
could
not
beat
us
be
thy
rates
and
and
or
cause
is
because
we
have
inmate
labor
on
the
back
of
our
trucks.
And
so,
when
you
see
amways
going
around
they've
got
a
civilian
driver
and
they've
got
two
civilian
employees
on
the
back
of
every
truck
and
when
they
submit
those
numbers,
that's
why
it
costs
us
10
million
last
year
with
M
waste,
and
so
when
they
have
to
provide
three
employees
and
hopefully
with
benefits
and
we've
been
running
around
with
a
driver
into
inmates.
I
And
I
agree
that
that
could
be
the
conclusion
right.
We
could
say:
hey,
we
privatization
was
this
amount,
non-automated
trucks
with
this
amount.
Automated
was
this
amount
right,
but
I
think
it
could
be.
We
land
in
this
exact
same
yeah,
the
direction
we're
talking
about
going.
We
could
go
there
as
well
I'm,
just
saying
I
think
seeing
those
options
of
what
we're
looking
at
then
it's
easier
to
explain
to
Citizens
your
fees
are
going
up.
This
is
the
best
of
the
options
we
looked
at
I.
Think
having
that
analysis
absolutely
agree,
absolutely.
M
Okay,
I
agree,
100
that
we
ought
to
do
that.
We
ought
to
do
an
RFP
and
then
we
need
to
look
at
options
of
not
automating
and
just
going
out
and
put
your
bag
out
there.
Like
we've
been
doing
and
keep
doing
what
we've
been
doing,
you
don't
need
the
container
the
car
just
you
know
you
keep
the
car,
but
you
can
put
your
bags
around
the
car.
If
that's
the
Columbus,
we
want
to
be.
M
J
Is
in
Columbus
Mississippi,
this
information
is
just
that
it's
information
I
think
this
is
what
we'll
utilize
to
develop
the
different
Opera
options
and
then
pick
the
best
one
for
our
situation
in
Columbus,
based
on
rate
sensitivity
based
on
covering
as
much
as
you
can
and
based
on,
not
going
bankrupt
in
about
seven
years,
because
we're
we're
subsidizing
too
much.
So
this
is
the
information
that'll
help
us
do
that
councilor
Davis.
J
K
Know
I'm
not
totally
accurate
on
this,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
Macon
went
to
privatize
not
long
ago
and
and
I
think
their
rates
are
are
a
lot
less
than
these
rates.
I'm
not
going
to
go
on
record
and
say
that
but
I'm
just
saying
giving
you
an
example
that
I
think
they
decided
to
go
in
that
direction
as
well.
K
You
know
which
leads
me
to
believe
if
there
was
an
option
that
we
could
privatize,
that
the
citizens
would
incur
some
expenses
and
then
with
all
the
cost
savings
across
the
board
of
not
being
in
not
being
in
the
waste
management
structure,
I
mean
we
could
if
we
subsidize
that
part
of
it,
what
would
at
the
end
of
the
day?
What
would
that
cost
be?
And
certainly
some
of
these
companies
have
their
own
landfills?
We
wouldn't
have
to
worry
about
those
things
I'm,
not
there
yet,
but
I'm,
just
throwing
stuff
out
of
possibilities.
K
Friends
of
mine
in
Atlanta
are
getting
good
Services
up
there
and
they're
well,
under
thirty
dollar,
I
mean
right
at
thirty
dollars
or
under
thirty
dollars.
So
I
I'm,
not
understanding
why
you
know
when
I
look
at
these
numbers,
we're
automation
is
getting
us
into
the
arena
with
the
private
sector,
really
when
you
start
looking
at
at
the
increased
cost.
So
we
owe
it
to
the
citizens
to
look
at
options.
K
Why
is
my
bill
going
up,
33,
plus
percent,
and
if
I
want
more
service,
I
got
to
pay
another
200
plus
dollars
yeah
for
a
new,
can
I
mean
it
just
I
I,
don't
think
we
can
answer
those
questions
right
now
so
and
and
like
I
said,
Miss
city
manager,
I
know
of
other
communities
that
have
gone
down
this
path
of
automation.
They
just
said
no
yeah.
We
got
to
go
in
a
different
route
and
maybe
there
have
maybe
they
had
this
conversation
a
long
time
ago.
K
I,
don't
know
yeah,
but
with
this
presentation,
if
we
don't
throw
this
stuff
out
on
the
table
here,
then
you
know
we're
not
going
to
get
anywhere
on
it.
I
don't
think.
M
But
you
get
once
a
week
garbage
pickup,
that's
protrusable
household
waste
once
a
week
and
and
so,
but
you
don't
get
recycling
in
Phoenix
City
and
if
I
put
out
more
than
what
I
can
put
on
the
curve
and
sticks
and
limbs,
then
I
can
just
pick
up
with
my
hand
and
put
out
there
when
they
come
by
and
get
it
and
they
use
that
grab
all
to
get
it.
M
It
goes
on
your
water
bill,
and
so
and
so
when
you
see
the
rates
in
Phoenix,
City
you're,
not
comparing
Apples
to
Apples,
let
them
come
by
your
house
with
a
grab
off,
because
you've
got
the
kind
of
Limbs
that
I'll
put
out
from
time
to
time.
You
know
where
you
got
to
have
to
grab
all
to
get
them
and
put
them
on
the
truck,
and
you
got
to
go
back
again
and
pick
you're
gonna
get
a
bill.
M
U
M
Is
that
if
their
rate
is
similar
to
our
rate
and
they
contract
it
out,
all
they
are
getting
is
once
a
week
pick
up
they're,
not
getting
recycling
they're,
not
getting
white
goods
picked
up
they're,
not
getting
large
yard
waste
picked
up
that
you
can't
if
I
they're,
not
getting
all
that
and
so
in
Columbus
Georgia.
You
get
all
of
that,
and
so
that's.
H
K
You
know
a
lot
of
stuff
is
subjective
yeah,
but
you
have
to
you
know
kind
of
read
through
the
tea
leaves
and
understand.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
the
impact
of
what's
going
to
be
to
our
citizens
and
the
cost
of
living
increase
is
going
to
be
there
and
look.
I
can
I'm
not
going
to
disagree
with
you
that
some
of
those
services
not
might
not
be
in
there,
but
they're
all
associated
with
a
cost
yeah.
So
that
may
be
something
we
need
to
have
with
our
citizens.
M
K
M
J
If
I
could
make
a
suggestion,
we're
not
going
to
solve
this
we're
just
gathering
information
today
and
it's
going
to
all
be
formatted
in
a
situation
in
such
a
way
as
it
will
be
able
to
make
those
decisions.
I
know,
we've
got
people
who've
been
waiting
here
for
a
couple
of
different
in
presentations.
So
if
I
I
would
like
to
ask
Council
if
they
don't
mind,
let's
just
let's
just
move
on
and
and
we'll
come
back
to
this,
because
this
is
invaluable
information-
I
mean
we've
received
it
before
and
we've
ignored
it.
J
H
I
was
gonna,
say,
city
manager
and
in
reference
to
the
word,
privatization
and
contract,
can
we
look
at
that
because
I'm
trying
to
understand
what
the
difference
is
between
like
when
we
contracted
the
amways?
We
got
a
country
versus
going
Prime.
You
know
going
to
privatization
like
what's
what's
the
difference
that
we
can
kind
of
break,
that
down
and
kind
of.
M
Prioritization
and
and
I'll
say
that
we're
going
to
come
back
with
the
three
options,
that's
the
first
thing
that
what
councilor,
Begley
and
Council
Davis
talked
about.
But
we
did
a
partial
private
privatization
through
the
contract
with
amways
I
mean
same
thing.
M
We
can't
afford
that
we
have
a
10
million
Integrated
Waste
budget
and
we're
paying
them
10
million
dollars
to
do
a
portion
of
what
we
do
with
10
million
dollars.
We
do
everything,
and
so,
and
so
we're
going
to
have
to
you
know,
gradually
get
rid
of
get
them
off
our
bill.
But
when
we
go
out
and
talk
about
privatization,
it.
M
Right,
that's
right,
the
privatization
they
provide
all
the
services,
which
means
that
we
don't
need
garbage
trucks
right.
You
know
and
we
don't
need
to
grab
all
trucks
if
we're
not
going
to
do
a
grab
all
and
we
don't
need
recycling
trucks,
and
we
don't
need
anything.
We
don't
need
to
pick
up
white
goods.
If
we
want
to
contract
it
all
out
which
I
am
you
know,
we
would
be
excited
about
I.
Just
we
can't
I,
don't
we're
going
to
bring
the
numbers,
but
you'll
see
that
the
numbers
just
we
can't
afford
it.
H
We
looking
at
certainly
because
I
know
she
had
said
before.
That
is
proprietary
information
like
they
wouldn't
tell
you
how
much
they
would
charge,
maybe
like
a
Rylan.
They
were
waste
management
or
whoever
those
companies
that
will
pick
up
like
privatization.
H
They
wouldn't
give
you
the
actual
numbers
in
reference
to
how
much
they
would
charge
us
for
their
services.
Well,.
M
AH
M
But
but
there
again
we
when
we,
when
we
do
it,
we'll
probably
do
it
with
the
menu,
how
much
you
would
do
for
household
waste
and
how
much
for
recycling
and
how
much
for
the
yard,
waste
and
and
and
then
how
much
for
yard
clippings,
because
we
have
all
of
those
services
that
we
charge
18
for
not
just
come
pick
up.
The
house
always
like
Phoenix
City
and
that's
it.
So
that's,
but
we'll
give
you
all
of
that.
Okay,.
R
R
So
if
when
we
come
back
to
that
work
session,
can
we
bring
all
the
ordinance
changes
that
we've
talked
about
in
the
previous
presentation
and
then
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
have
a
conversation
about
what
we're
going
to
do
about
illegal
dumping
and
really
cracking
down
on
that
on
that
portion,
I
mean
we
do
a
decent
job
right
now,
but
it's
I
have
a
feeling.
M
M
K
Is
there
something
here
15
seconds?
Can
we
take
a?
Let
me
recommend
taking
a
different
approach.
This
I
know
sometimes
we'll
go
out
and
talk
to
vendors
and
anytime.
We
go
out
and
talk
to
them.
They
tend
to
give
us
numbers
that
are
just
you
know
extremely
inflated,
but
that's
just
what
they
do.
They
do
that
with
City
governments.
But
can
we
take
a
more
direct
approach
to
this
and
maybe
do
rfps
exactly
what
we're
looking
for
and
put
it
out
on
the
market
and
see
what
the
market?
J
So
they,
you
know
yeah,
let's
go
Smith.
Thank
you
ma'am.
Obviously,
you
have
peaked
everybody's
interest
and
we're
grateful
for
the
work
that
you
put
into
this.
It
gives
us
a
good
Baseline,
I
think,
to
try
to
figure
out
what's
the
best
approach
for
our
government
and,
more
importantly,
for
the
the
taxpayers.
So
thank
you.
T
I'd
like
to
provide
the
counsel
and
update
on
our
critical
vacancies.
It's
been
about
six
months
ago
since
I
provided
the
last
update
on
vacancies,
so
we're
keeping
Pace
with
providing
the
update
every
six
months
to
the
council.
So
just
as
a
reminder
in
terms
of
how
a
position
is
classified
as
a
critical
vacancies,
these
are
the
pointers
things
that
we
look
at
the
position
is
typically
vacant
for
six
months
or
longer.
This
is
a
essential
position.
T
It's
required
in
order
for
us
to
operate
affect
effectively.
These
are
typically
hard
to
field
positions
and
their
specialized
positions
in
their
area
of
work,
and
these
are
positions
that
are
in
high
demand.
T
So
we
look
at
our
Public
Safety,
critical
vacancies,
the
four
Public
Safety
departments,
the
police
department,
Sheriff's
Office,
Muskogee,
County,
Prison
and
fire
and
EMS
and
the
police
department.
We
focus
on
the
police
officer
position.
Currently
there
are
149
vacancies
in
the
police
department
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
in
detail
about
those
vacancies.
But
right
now
there
are
149
vacancies
in
the
Sheriff's
office.
There
are
15
vacancies.
11
of
those
vacancies
are
deputies
and
four
of
those
are
correctional
officers
out
at
Muscogee
County
Prison.
T
There
is
just
one
vacancy
which
is
good
and
we'll
talk
about
some
of
the
progress
that
has
been
made
within
our
Public
Safety
departments,
as
well
as
our
general
government
departments.
In
firing
EMS.
There
are
17
vacancies
for
a
total
really
of
27,
because
within
the
FY
24
budget
they
were
approved
for
10
additional
new
positions,
so
they
actually
have
a
total
of
27
vacancies
in
the
fire
near
master
partner
foreign.
T
This
is
a
historical
overview.
Just
a
five-year
look
back.
We
started
providing
counsel
and
update
back
in
2019
of
our
critical
vacancies.
The
first
report
that
we
provided
to
you
was
in
March
of
2019.
This,
as
you
can
see,
was
well
before
the
pandemic.
When
we
started
talking
about
critical
vacancies
in
city
government
and
just
to
look
at
the
Police
Department
police
officers
back
in
March
of
20
March
of
2019,
there
were
80
vacancies
and
we
were
astounded
by
those
number
of
vacancies
Unfortunately.
T
They
continue
to
go
up
in
November
of
2021,
there
were
84
vacancies
in
February
of
2022.
There
were
130
vacancies,
we
had
a
drop
in
July
of
2022
to
127
vacancies
and
then
another
spike
in
20.
In
earlier
this
year,
when
we
reported
there
were
142
vacancies
and
as
of
this
report,
as
of
June
30th,
there
are
100
and
49
vacancies
in
the
police
department
in
terms
of
police
officers
or
sworn
positions.
T
And
then,
if
we
look
at
the
sheriff's
officers,
the
deputies
and
correctional
officers
in
March
of
2019,
there
were
26
vacancies
and
then
you
see
those
numbers
continue
to
they've
creeped
up
in
November
of
2021.
There
were
38
vacancies
in
February
of
2022.
There
were
55
vacancies
and
then
you
see
they
started
to
drop
in
July
of
2022.
There
there's
51
vacancies
earlier
this
year.
When
we
reported
in
February
2023,
there
were
41
vacancies
and
today
there
are
15
vacancies.
T
So
those
numbers
do
look
very
good
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
as
well,
and
then
in
the
Muscogee
County
Prison
as
their
correctional
officer
positions
prior
to
the
pandemic,
they
had
seven
vacancies
in
2019
and
then
in
2021
they
were
still
seven
vacancies,
but
then
those
numbers,
as
you
see
they
creeped
up
17
vacancies,
14
15,
but
now
as
of
today,
the
wardeness
will
report
that
they
have
won
vacancies,
which
is
really
very
good.
T
Some
of
the
public
safety
Personnel
are
here
today
and
if
time
permits
I
know
the
hour
is
late,
but
if
time
permits-
because
there
is
a
lot
of
very
intentional
work
being
done
in
public
safety
and
in
general
government
to
impact
the
number
of
vacancies
within
their
departments,
the
chart
at
the
low
chart
below
this,
the
first
chart,
there
is
just
a
summation
that
shows
you
the
chart
in
terms
of
how
those
vacancies
have
been
impacted
over
the
last
five
years,
continuing
with
the
police
department,
because
we
typically
provide
these
numbers.
T
This
is
a
10-year
look
back
in
terms
of
their
over
turnover
rate,
the
looking
from
2012
until
June
30th
of
this
year,
looking
at
the
number
of
hired.
If
you
look
at
the
very
last
column
to
the
right
2023
as
of
June
30th,
there
are
32
officers
that
have
been
hired,
32
have
been
hired,
two
have
retired,
37,
have
resigned,
one
terminated
or
laid
off,
and
then
two
deceased
they're
still
all
negative
10
officers
in
terms
of
those
that
are
recruited
versus
those
that
are
separated
and
I.
T
Believe
the
chief,
if
he's
not
here,
was
here
earlier
and
he's
doing
some
work
on
that
and
may
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
that.
T
In
terms
of
the
general
government
critical
vacancies,
we
looked
at
the
Department
of
Transportation
Metro,
Transit,
Parks
and
Recreation
and
Public
Works,
beginning
with
the
bus
operator
positions.
These
are
commercial
driver,
license
positions,
Metro
currently
has
13
vacancies
and
I
did
make
a
note
that
they've
got
five
new
hires
in
the
hopper,
so
by
August
14th
that
will
be
reduced
by
five.
So
they'll
only
have
eight
vacancies
in
the
in
Metro
Transit
and
that's
a
really
really
good
number
for
a
metra
in
Parks
and
Recreation.
T
We've
talked
about
them
a
good
bit
most
of
the
numbers,
the
positions
and
Parks
and
Rec
they.
A
large
percentage
of
their
Workforce
are
part-time
employees,
part-time,
Temporaries
and
seasonal
workers
and
of
this
143
vacancies.
They
have
six
full-time
and
137
of
those
are
actually
part
time
employees
and
they
continue
to
be
challenged
with
their
part-time
vacancies.
T
Even
though,
with
the
implementation
of
the
pay
plan,
with
the
implementation
of
the
pay
plan,
we
did
make
some
adjustments
to
the
pay
for
part-time
workers,
but
they
are
still
challenged
there
in
public
works,
we
looked
at
three
different
areas,
namely
the
those
positions
that
require
a
CDL,
the
waste
equipment
operator
and
other
equipment
operator
positions
that
require
a
CDL
that
they
currently
have
26
vacancies,
which
is
spiraling
in
the
right
direction,
they're
still
challenged,
but
having
26
vacancies
as
you'll
see,
is
better
than
you
know
what
they've
done
in
the
past,
the
fleet
maintenance,
tech,
one
twos
and
threes.
T
These
are
their
mechanics.
Currently
they
have
four
vacancies.
There
and
then
this
is
a
area.
Lastly,
with
Public
Works
is
a
very
critical
area,
critical
positions
that
are
hard
to
build.
These
are
their
skilled,
trades
position
where
we've
not
reported
on
them
in
the
past,
but
since
the
pandemic,
especially
they've
had
a
tremendous
challenge
in
filling
the
these
skills
trades
positions.
These
are
your
HVAC
techs.
T
Your
plumbers,
electricians
and
Carpenters,
which
are
these
are
skills
that
are
extremely
in
high
demand
and
folks
that
have
these
particular
skills
can
decide
what
they
want
to
get
paid
because
they
they're
just
much
needed
and
right
now
of
the
17
positions
of
skill,
trade
positions
and
Public
Works.
They
have
11
vacancies,
and
so
the
five-year
look
back
for
a
general
government
political
vacancy
positions
from
2019
to
current,
we
looked
at
bus
operators
in
March
of
2019.
T
There
were
20
vacancies
and
Metro
kind
of
held
with
those
number
of
vacancies
from
20
to
25
or
so
vacancies
until
recently.
Currently,
as
of
the
time
of
this
report,
Metro
has
13
vacancies
and,
as
I
mentioned
before,
they've
got
five
in
the
hopper,
so
this
number
is
going
to
be
reduced
to
five
vacancies,
which
is
I,
know
Rosa,
Evans
I
can
just
see
her
smiling
right
now
talk
with
the
other
thought.
With
her
the
other
day
she
said:
Aretha
we
are
on
a
roll
which
is
really
really
good
and
I'm
hopeful.
T
You
know
for
all
of
these
that
we
can
maintain
where
we
are
and
we'll
talk
more
about
how
what
we're
doing
and
how
we're
getting
to
where
we're
going
in
terms
of
the
waste
equipment,
operators
and
other
CDL
type
positions
in
the
public
works
departments.
You
see
in
March
of
2019
and
2021.
T
There
were
six
vacancies,
so
we
didn't
have
a
whole
whole
lot
to
talk
about,
but
look
how
that
number
expired
beginning
in
February
of
2022
38
vacancies,
29
vacancies,
33
vacancies
and
to
date
there
are
26
vacancies,
so
the
number
is,
as
of
the
date
of
this
report,
is
going
in
the
right
direction,
although,
as
you've
heard
from
the
previous
reports
today,
the
need
continues
to
be
there
and
then
in
part,
some
Recreation,
the
multiple
positions
that
they
have
there
in
February
of
2022,
there
were
176
vacancies
and
then
162
vacancies
121
and
today
they
have
143
vacancies
and
again
these
are
primarily
part-time
vacancies
for
parts
and
Recreation
and
I
I
failed
to
point
it
out
on
my
on
the
slide
with
the
public
works.
T
Excuse
me
with
the
public
safety
departments
to
the
right.
There.
I
did
note
when
the
pay
plan
was
implemented
in
January
of
2023,
to
see
what
a
difference
our
pay
plan
implementation
is
making
in
terms
of
our
vacancies,
because,
obviously
you
know
with
the
increased
pay
for
these
various
positions,
these
critical
positions,
we're
hoping
to
be
able
to
recruit
and
retain
more,
and
we
do
see
that
that
is
making
an
impact
here.
T
This
slide
is
an
overview
of
the
entire
government,
the
new
hires
and
separations
for
the
last
six
months
from
January
to
June
of
2023.
So
since
January
we
have
hired
590
employees,
315
have
separated
of
those
I
think
it
is
important
to
note
of
those
590
employees
that
have
been
hired.
305
of
those
are
part-time,
temporary
seasonal
employees
and
then
of
the
315
that
separated
112
of
those
are
part-time,
temporary
and
seasonal
employees.
T
So,
just
as
I
began
to
wrap
up
in
terms
of
our
continued
Recruitment
and
efforts
to
retain
our
employees,
we
have
a
robust
Outreach
in
terms
of
recruiting
new
employees
for
the
Columbus
Consolidated
Government.
I
do
want
to
note
this
in
September
of
2022
on
our
website
we
had
137
positions,
posted
that
was
137
to
date.
We
have
101
position
posted,
and
that
is
a
very
good
indicator
to
me
that
we're
doing
something
right.
We
don't
and
we're
going
in
the
right
direction.
T
Like
I
said
almost
a
year
ago
there
was
a
137
positions
posted.
We
have
101
posted
now
and
I'm
doing
this
as
of
June
30th.
We've
actually
dropped
before
below
100
to
about.
On
some
days,
we've
had
96
to
98
positions,
actually
posted
and
to
even
bring
it
more
home
to
you,
prior
to
the
pandemic
and
prior
to
the
state
of
being
with
the
positions
that
we
have
now
on
an
average
we
were
used
to
having
only
about
50
positions
posted
and
that
went
on
for
many
many
years.
T
Typically,
we
would
have
50
positions,
posted
I,
don't
know
if
we'll
ever
get
back
to
to
that,
but
because
you
know
it's
the
age
that
we're
in,
but
just
to
show
this
number
this.
This
is
a
good
number
to
me
and
it's
a
good
indicator,
and
these
photos
are
just
some
of
the
hiring
fairs
that
we
have
participated
in
over
the
last
six
months
and
then
in
terms
of
our
recruitment
strategy.
T
It's
pretty
much
the
same
that
what
as
I
reported
previously
to
you,
we
have
hosted
and
particip,
hosted
and
or
participated
in
14
hiring
fairs
throughout
the
city
of
Columbus
and
this
region,
our
jobs
continuously
advertised
on
our
career
opportunities,
web
page
governmentjobs.com,
and
indeed,
and
Glassdoor
indeed,
and
glass
door.
That's
where
a
lot
of
Millennials
look
for
a
job
set,
so
all
of
our
jobs
are
posted
out
there
and
we
continue
to
work
with
and
partner
with
colleges,
universities
and
high
schools
and
to
those
who
are
who
are
listening.
T
I
want
to
note
our
QR
code
there.
All
you
have
to
do
is
click
on
that
QR
code.
It
will
take
you
to
our
career
career
web
page,
where
you'll
see
all
of
our
positions
posted
there,
and
you
can
immediately
apply
for
a
position
and
also
the
positions
on
our
website
are
updated
daily.
So
it
if
you
go
and
look
at
our
website
today,
you
want
to
have
that
QR
code
saved,
so
you
can
visit
regularly
because
jobs
are
posted
there
daily
as
they
become
available.
T
We
continue
to
participate
in
regular
interviews
on
the
television
radio
stations,
put
out
press
releases
e
flyers
and
we're
even
posting
flyers
in
community
neighborhoods.
We
are
saturating
social,
social
media
on
we're
on
Facebook,
Instagram,
LinkedIn
Twitter,
and
we
do
specialty
professional
advertising
as
well
for
certain
hard
to
feel
positions.
We
continue
to
partner
with
our
GoodWill
career
center
they've
been
wonderful,
Partners,
For,
Us,
Fort
Benning
we
go
out.
T
That
ends
my
presentation
update
on
critical
vacancies,
Mr
city
manager,
as
I
mentioned,
there
are
some
if
Council
doesn't
have
questions
yes,
sir
I
I
I
know
the
time
is
long
well,.
M
Sir
go
ahead:
let's
counsel
wants
to
would
like
to
hear
from
a
department
here
directly
we're
gonna
pass
on
it,
but
if,
if
there
are
some
people
that
council
members
want.
J
M
J
H
This
wasn't
on
the
critical
vacancy,
but
I
did
want
eventually
to
get
the
numbers
of
employees
that
we
have
for
code
enforcement,
like
code
enforcement,
how
many
people
are
in
Code
Enforcement,
do
we
have
shortages
and
code
enforcement
I
can
provide
that
number
to
you
all
right.
Thank
you.
Absolutely.
T
So
I
know
they'll
be
great
if
we
can
get
the
folks
from
General
government
real
quickly,
Rosa
Evans.
T
Public
Safety,
okay,
Chief
math,
is
at
least
here
we
can
go
first
and
then
the
warden
and
priority
Hermes.
AD
Listen
I
know
it's
been
a
long
day
and
I
I.
Ask
that
you
just
indulge
me
just
for
a
second
some
of
the
things
that
first
I
just
want
to
say,
mayor
council.
Thank
you
for
that
vote
on
that
Alabama
take
home
car.
That
is
certainly
something
that's
going
to
help
me
both
hire
and
retain
officers
and
he's
actually
passing
out
a
PowerPoint.
That
I
actually
got
a
couple
of
other
suggestions
that
we
can
do
a
few.
AD
A
few
weeks
ago,
I
told
the
city
manager
that
we
will
never
have
488
police
officers
again,
it'll
never
happen.
If
you
look
back
all
the
way
at
Miss,
Rita's
PowerPoint,
you
notice
that
we
hire
about
somewhere
around
30
to
50
every
year
and
we
lose
about
30
to
50
every
year.
If
we
keep
doing
business
like
we
have
been
doing
business,
we
will
never
gain
any
police
officers
year
after
year.
We
have
to
think
differently.
AD
So
what
I've
done
is
I've
gotten
throughout
the
police
department,
since
I've
been
here,
I
go
in
and
I
ask
department,
heads
and
Deputy
Chiefs.
Why
are
we
doing
it
like
that?
Every
time,
because
we've
always
done
it
like
that
chief,
if
we
keep
conducting
business
like
we've
done
in
the
past,
we're
going
to
continue
to
fail
so
I've
been
touching
every
aspect
of
the
police
department.
One
aspect
is
recruiting
when
I
go
down
to
the
recruiting
and
I
notice
that
they're
still
recruiting
like
they
did
five
six
seven
years
ago.
AD
AD
AD
Foreign
back
in
2015,
you
guys
came
up
with
this.
It's
it's
a
CPD
pay,
reform
and
restructuring
plan,
and,
if
you
notice
down
there
at
the
bottom
there
clearly
they
had
the
same
issues
in
2015
because
it
says
they
came
up
with
this
new
plan
to
help
better
recruit,
help
better
retain
police
officers.
AD
But
throughout
this
plan
it
talks
about
partially
exempt
employee
partially
exempt
sworn
police
officers.
I've
been
in
this
business
for
30
years,
I
never
heard
the
word
partially
exempt
you're
either
exempt
or
you're
not
exempt.
I
didn't
understand
what
so
I'd
done
as
much
research,
but
in
this
it
basically
said
on
2015
the
city
got
rid
of
Gap
time
or
straight
time,
so
they
just
they
kind
of
got
rid
of
that
and
basically
said
that.
That's
all
inclusive
into
your
your
salary
I
didn't
understand
what
that
meant.
So
I
looked
at
it
the
city.
AD
So
what
that
means
is
an
officer,
works,
11
hours,
overtime,
every
pay
period
and
does
not
get
paid
for
it
and
when
you
say
well,
not
all
of
them
do
some
of
them
make
that
extra
money
to
work
for
it.
The
hard-working
police
officers
that
you
have
out
there
that
makes
the
rest
goes
to
court
makes
late
cases
stays
over
to
finish
the
paperwork.
The
hard
work
and
police
officers
are
the
ones
that
do
work.
AD
Those
extra
hours
we
basically
incentified
police
officers
not
to
do
anything
detectives,
you're
working
your
whole
week,
you
get
called
out
on
a
homicide
you're
out
there
for
four
hours.
Two
days
later,
you
go
out
on
another
homicide,
you're
out
there
for
four
hours.
At
the
end
of
the
pay
period
you
get
paid
exactly
the
same
as
the
detective
that
didn't
get
called
out
at
all.
AD
What
do
you
think
that
does
to
an
officer's
morale,
but
on
every
paycheck?
It's
not
an
hourly
rate.
It
basically
just
says
86
hours,
so
they're
being
compensated,
but
they
don't
feel
like
they're
being
compensated
because
their
salaries,
the
same
flsa
Fair,
labor
standards,
act
from
161
to
171
officers,
most
places
I've
ever
worked
and
what
the
law
says
in
my
understanding
is
they'll
get
compensated
for
it.
AD
Here's
what
the
law
says
and
and
that
that
section
right
there
basically
says,
exemptions
of
this
regulation
in
part
is,
does
not
apply
to
police
officer.
Detectives,
Deputy
sheriffs,
there's
only
three
three
ways
that
people
can
be
exempt,
consider
an
exempt
employee
and
it
has
to
Mitch
all
three:
the
salary
has
to
be
over
minimum
wage.
The
base
has
to
be
regular,
fixed.
AD
Those
are
the
three
administrative
executive
and
professional
I
would
be
considered
an
executive.
Clearly
I'm
exempt,
probably
captains
and
above
would
be
considered
administratively
professionally
and
at
the
bottom
there
it
says,
although
the
police
officers
may
have
an
extra
I
mean
a
college
degree
or
specialized
academic
degree
that
does
not
prerequisite
and
make
them
a
professional
I'm,
a
doctors,
lawyers
stuff
like
that
again
86
hours.
AD
That's
how
that's
how
the
city
has
gotten
around
it
and
that's
what
makes
it
probably
legal,
but
there's
a
difference
between
the
letter
of
the
law
and
the
spirit
of
the
law.
We
can
go
out
and
arrest
every
person
driving
11
miles
an
hour
over
the
speed
limit,
but
would
that
be
the
right
thing
to
do?
AD
You
get
a
police
officer
making
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year,
so
he's
working
60
hours,
that's
24.04
an
hour.
Okay.
If
you
work
61
hours,
it
goes
down
all
the
way
to
working
11
hours,
overtime,
he's
actually
making
22.44
an
hour
49
an
hour
and
he's
still
making
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year
anywhere
else
in
the
country,
all
those
police
at
any
over
time,
people
get
paid
for
it.
AD
I'm
a
department
head
I
should
be
able
to
manage
the
overtime,
because
it's
not
every
police
officer.
It's
the
hard-working
police
officers
that
get
stifled
and
those
are
the
ones
that
leave
yeah
police
officer,
a
Columbus
police
officer,
police
officer,
be
any
other
officer
in
the
country
making
50
000.
we're
based
on
86
hours
of
pay
period,
they're
all
based
on
80
hours
of
pay
period,
we're
about
basically
when
they
do
that,
they're
making
22.49
an
hour
any
place
else.
They're
making
2404
an
hour.
AD
AD
So
if
we
compare
ourselves
to
Opa-locka
or
Auburn
who
actually
starts
off
at
53
and
we
start
at
50,
so
we're
already
three
thousand
dollars
behind
and
then
we
look
at
us
police
off
the
hard
work
of
police
officers,
they're
not
getting
compensated
for
their
overtime.
You
can
see
how
this
would
a
21
year
old
police
officer,
22
year
old
police
officer.
They
come
here.
We
can
recruit
them,
we
put
them
to
the
academy
and
as
soon
as
they
get
out
of
the
academy,
they
start
looking.
What
do
you
mean?
AD
I
got
to
go
work,
this
extra
case
for
three
hours,
and
it's
already
averaged
into
my
my
compensation-
didn't
make
sense
to
me
when
I
first
came
here
morning,
watch
was
real
short,
so
I
went
to
the
evening
to
watch
guys
get
off
at
midnight.
I
said:
hey
can
I
get
a
three
or
four
you
guys
to
work
overtime
to
at
least
to
about
three?
In
the
morning
until
the
call
volume
Kicks
Down
and
they
said
yeah
Chief-
we
do
that.
But
it's
not
overtime,
I
said
I
know
it's
not
overtime.
AD
AD
AD
They
figure
out
that
they're
in
their
minds,
they're
losing
money
and
I'm,
not
saying
what
we're
doing
is
illegal
or
unethical
I'm,
just
saying
if
they
have
an
option.
They're
going
to
pick
option
b.
I
promise
you
so
here's
what
I
propose.
Also
that's
just
one
thing:
I
think
we
need
to
get
rid
of
that
and
go
back
to
the
way
it
normally
be.
Is
done.
Here's
another
thing:
I'm
opposing
488
sworn
Physicians.
AD
So
that
leaves
me
444
sworn
positions
remaining
again.
We
will
never
get
to
444
if
we
don't
do
something
to
attract
police
officers
and
have
them
stay
I'm
proposing
that
we
eliminate
44
of
those
positions
just
eliminate
them.
Use
that
salary
savings
to
actually
pay
the
400
police
officer
positions
that
we
have
that's
about:
2.2
2.5
million
dollars,
because
what
I
did
is,
if
we're
paying
them
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year
on
an
average
throughout
the
state.
AD
That's
460
employees,
60
dispatchers,
I'm
down
18
right
now
and
and
400
police
officers-
and
you
say,
listen
chief.
If
we
do
this
for
you,
we
have
to
do
this
for
the
the
sheriff's
department
and
fire
department.
Listen
I
respect,
Sheriff
countrymen,
like
you,
don't
believe,
Sheriff
Chief,
Scarpa
great.
What
they
ought
to
do
is
if
they
give
up
10
of
their
employees.
They
could
do
the
same
thing,
because
that's
what
I'm
proposing
eliminate
10
of
my
staff
and
give
these
guys
a
pay
raise,
so
they
stay
with
you
guys.
D
J
H
AD
M
M
I
think
we
need
to
help
her
to
them
to
look
at
the
numbers,
because,
obviously
and
I'm
sure
your
numbers
are
correct,
but
I
don't
know
if
benefits
are
included
in
your
2.3
million
and
then
there's
got
to
be
some
Actuarial
work
done,
because
the
pension
contributions
will
change,
and
so
mayor
Wiccan
certainly
have
the
finance
department
that
the
numbers-
and
you
know
I
I-
think
it's
an
excellent
presentation,
and
you
know
if
the
numbers
are.
M
What
we
see
certainly
I
would
support
it,
because
it
makes
sense-
and
you
know-
and
so
the
first
thing
I
would
want
to
do-
is
have
it
vetted
with
HR
department.
Excuse
me,
with
Finance
in
HR,
is.
M
I
think
within
30
days,
I
would
say
30
days,
yeah
I.
AE
J
Can
we'll
make
a
determination
based
on
what
kind
of
progress
we're
making
with
the
the
finance
director
and
getting
because
that's
I
mean
what
the
chief
has
done?
Basically,
is
giving
you
a
theory
on
how
there
may
be
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
get
competitive
again?
Yes,
because
you
know,
as
we
mentioned
before,
when
we
did
the
pay
plan
implementation
as
soon
as
we
did
got
to
50
000,
and
we
immediately
I
should
imagine.
I
talked
about
this.
J
We
immediately
were
dealing
with
LaGrange,
which
you'd
bump
to
60.,
and
then
we
had
troop
County
that
bumped
to
about
56,
because
they
immediately
lost
six
of
their
sheriff's
deputies
to
go
over
and
plug
holes
at
troops.
Hey
lagranges,
Police
Department.
So
it's
it's,
but
that's
that's
going
to
continue
and
we'll.
Never!
It's.
J
Get
sure
you
got
to
understand
this,
will
never
you
can't
win
at
a
high
stakes,
Game
of
Poker,
where
every
five
months
you
I'll
see
you're
61
and
raise
you
to
61-5.
You
know
you
can't
do
that,
but
what
you
can
do
is
you
can
make
a
competitive
way
that
allows
our
folks
to
stay
here
and
feel
like
they
get
that
training
and
they're
going
to
be
able
to
continue
to
grow
their
families
here
in
Columbus,
but
it's
but
it's
got
to
be.
M
And
I
think
by
the
second
by
the
first,
the
second
Tuesday
meeting
in
September
I,
think
that
would
allow
sometimes
we'll.
AD
H
AD
AD
Detectives
these
are
the
the
people
that
actually
go
out
there
and
do
the
work
so
I
mean
we
could
fluctuate
it,
but
it's
almost
all
Patrol
and
and
young
detectives
right.
M
And
I
think
what
you
would
be
I
think
you'll
be
agreeing
that
the
police
department
would
have
400
sworn
positions.
Yes,
sir,
is
what
you
would
be
agreeing
400
is
one
yes,
yes
one
and
but
you
know
I
we
can
take
a
look
at
the
numbers.
I.
M
H
H
M
We'll
have
the
shower
savings
for
every
department
and
and
that's
when
we,
when
we
balance
the
budget
for
those
who've
gone
over,
we
move
money
from
those
who've
come
in
under
and
and
so
the
bottom
line
of
our
budget
will
not
shift,
but
you
know
you'll
you'll
see
it.
D
B
City
manager,
I
would
request
that
we,
when
you
ask
the
finance
director
to
take
a
look
at
what
the
chief
has
presented
to
us.
It
may
not
work
exactly
like
he
said
because
of
other
conditions,
but
to
bring
back
to
us
something
that
will
at
least
embody
the
spirit
of
what
he
has
said.
I,
don't
know
if
using
the
old
lost
money
and
the
old
loss
requirements
would
make
a
difference
in
this.
B
But
I
would
like
for
us
to
make
sure
that
we
are
looking
at
all
of
those
things
with
the
goal
doing
what
the
chief
has
said,
helping
the
fire
chief
and
the
Sheriff's
Office
and
all
of
our
Public
Safety
folks
move
ahead
and
do
what
they
need
to
do
so
that
we
don't
continue
to
have
a
shortage
in
all
of
those
departments
and,
as
I
said,
it
may
not
work
exactly
like
he's
proposed,
but
it
will
work
close
to
what
he
proposed
and
I
think
the
old
lost
is
a
an
area
that
we
certainly
can
take
a
look
at
and
make
sure
that
we
can
use
that
money
in
the
way
that
it
was
meant
to
be
used.
B
That
was
what
the
Olas
was,
what
we
said
when
we
passed
the
Olaf
and
we
want
to
be
the
safest
town
in
the
country,
and
this
will
help
us
to
move
in
that
direction
and
I
appreciate
the
chief
putting
this
together
and
giving
us
some
more
food
for
thought
to
see.
If
we
can't
do
it
like,
he
has
asked
us
to
do.
Thank
you.
Mr
city
manager,.
M
Yeah
there
and,
and-
and
you
know,
others
should
because
I
know
we'll
hear
from
some
others,
and
so
what
the
chief
has
done
is
figured
out
a
way
to
make
it
work
right,
reducing
some
numbers
and
re-allocating
and
and
if
you
can
get
400,
because
you
did
this,
it
makes
more
sense
and
to
have
290,
because
you
didn't
do
it
and
so
I.
You
rather
have
400
on
the
street.
So
Ford.
AO
AO
The
warden
took
a
personal
interest
in
the
Recruitment
and
Retention
episode,
Muskogee
County
Prison
by
first
requiring
exit
interviews
for
any
staff
member
that
submitted
a
resignation.
We
found
that
most
had
personal
hurdles
that
could
be
resolved
by
communication
and
temporary
adjustments
to
their
shifts.
AO
Secondly,
gaining
access
to
neogov
the
warden
was
able
to
better
track
the
application
pool
and
the
strap
established
a
weekly
goal
of
recruiting
calls
and
interviews
each
Monday.
A
report
is
required
to
be
sent
to
the
warden's
attention
on
where
each
applicant
is
in
the
process.
Thirdly,
the
pay
adjustments
for
the
well-deserving
staff
members
provided
support
to
keep
them
motivated
and
stay
on
to
support
the
facility.
AO
The
salary
and
hiring
package
is
more
attractive
to
potential
applicants.
This,
along
with
the
stipend
pay
for
working
schedule
days
off,
has
been
a
stabilizing
selling
point
as
we
go
about
recruiting
new
employees.
Fourth,
the
approval
to
hire
Reserve
officers
has
impacted
the
facility
greatly
as
they
have
bought
training
experience
and
maturity
to
the
newer
officers.
AO
The
reserve
offices
and
Correctional
and
Senior
correctional
officers
in
the
absence
of
a
fto
program,
has
provided
better
one-on-one
training
for
the
inexperienced
staff
members,
administrative
staff,
mid-level
supervisors
and
all
department
heads
now
meet
regularly
to
ensure
the
missions
are
communicated
from
the
top
down
and
the
entire
facility
is
on
the
same
page.
The
creation
of
the
employee
committee
now
gives
the
staff
a
voice
on
which
activities
can
be
planned
to
enhance
to
enhance
the
staff's
morale.
AO
You
know
what
I
mean
and
pride
for
all
the
staff
and
will
continue
to
explore
Avenues
to
make
the
facility
a
more
attractive
place
of
employment
and
and
with
the
assistance
of
Columbus
Consolidated
Government
on
pending
requests
from
the
warden's
office,
we
can
more
effectively
give
back
to
the
city
of
Columbus.
That
was
my
response
to.
AO
On
what
the
chief
said,
one
thing
the
fsla
has
been
on
our
agenda
and
that
is
based
on
the
old
retirement
system,
where
officers
approved
comp
time
and
that's
not
the
case
anymore.
The
retirement
system
no
longer
exists,
but
those
officers
are
still
working
under
that
fsla
format
and
so
in
the
prison
as
well.
The
171
hours
is
also
a
it's.
It's
a
it's
a
point
where
the
officers
they
see
their
work
in
those
hours,
but
they
just
don't
see
it
on
their
paychecks.
AO
J
AE
AE
AE
We
our
culture,
our
organization,
the
fire
service
in
general,
is
seen,
perhaps
in
a
slightly
different
light
than
some
of
our
Public
Safety
partners
are
a
little
bit
more
challenging
hiring
police
officers
and
sheriff's
deputies
and
the
like
in
this
in
this
modern
era,
whereas
it's
still
for
the
most
part,
considered
a
pretty
good
job
if
you
get
a
job
at
the
fire
department,
so
our
challenge
is
not
quite
as
difficult
as
as
my
partners
are,
but
I
always
tell
people
if
you
want
to
cast
The
Net
go
fishing
if
you
want
to
hire
and
retain
top
talent
go
recruiting,
and
that
has
been
our
Focus
for
the
past
couple
years
and
that's
why
we've
been
successful
in
in
doing
that
last
year,
I
got
a
I.
AE
Was
the
Center
for
Public
Safety
Excellence
reached
out
to
me,
because
the
international
City
Managers
Association
wanted
somebody
to
come
and
speak
and
talk
on
Recruitment
and
Retention
and
success
stories,
and
so
I
wouldn't
give
a
presentation
and
I
told
them.
Basically,
four
things
recruitment
needs
to
be
intentional.
It
needs
to
be
diverse,
it
needs
to
be
seen
as
an
investment,
and
it
needs
to
be
multifaceted
and
that's
been
our
approach
and
with
my
staff
and
chief
Warden
who's,
a
huge
architect
behind
a
lot
of
that,
we've
done.
AE
We've
kind
of
done
that
and
we've
been
very
successful
in
that
retention
is
not
about
paying
people
more
money,
though
that's
certainly
important.
You
will
not
retain
top
talent
if
you
give
them
a
reason
to
go
elsewhere
and
for
some
people
the
reason
is,
is
indeed
money
and
for
others
it's
the
culture.
We
have
been
able
to
change
the
culture
in
our
organization
to
keep
people
and
make
them
want
to
stay
now.
I
still
have
17
vacancies
plus
to
10
new
positions.
AE
If
you
want
to
keep
people
in
your
organization,
you
got
to
make
them
feel
valued
and
I,
hear
from
Chief
Mathis
and
Sheriff
Countryman
and
the
ward
and
those
are
things
that
they're
doing
in
their
departments
making
their
employees
feel
valued
now
give
them
an
opportunity
to
engage
and
to
contribute
to
the
success
of
the
department.
Again,
those
are
things
that
they're
doing
that.
AE
We're
also
doing
in
our
department
to
give
them
an
opportunity
and
to
want
to
stay
and
I
find
that
by
doing
that,
and
if
you
communicate
the,
why
they'll
be
willing
to
accept
certain
things
that
maybe
yeah
I
could
probably
go
to
Fort
Worth
Park
and
make
make
an
extra
5
000.
But
I
like
the
culture
here
in
Columbus,
and
so
in
short,
I'd,
say
that
the
successes
that
we've
had
are
largely
attributable
to
our
culture,
our
largely
attributable
to
the
fact
that
we
make
our
recruitment
efforts
and
retention
efforts.
J
Chief,
thank
you.
I
tell
you
from
my
perspective,
you're
the
poster
child
for
building
a
positive,
sustainable
culture.
You've
done
a
great
job
and
I
think
you've
been
you've
kind
of
given
a
a
process
that
can
be
emulated
by
others
and
I,
see
it
being
emulated,
and
not
just
in
public
safety,
but
in
general
government
as
well.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
AE
AE
Yes,
we
do
have
a
class
currently
that
we
were
recruiting
for.
We
just
finished
up
our
interviews
last
week.
In
fact,
Chief
horde
headed
that
up
those
27
positions
will
start
September
the
11th.
We
will
have
technically
zero
petitions,
but
I'm
certain
somewhere
between
now
and
then
we'll
lose
another
retirement
or
so,
but
we
will
have
all
those
positions
filled
this
year.
We're
proud.
T
B
D
B
Manager-
I'm
not
asking
you
to
respond
to
this
today,
but
when
you
come
back
to
us
with
the
those
recommendations
or
whatever
from
the
finance
director
in
Chief
scarpa's
presentation,
he
said
we
changed
the
rules
on
overtime
in
2015..
Would
you
bring
back
to
us?
B
Tell
us
why
we
did
that
and
and
how
that
came
about,
and
all
of
that
as
I
said
I'm,
not
asking
you
to
do
that
today,
off
the
top
of
your
head,
but
I
would
like
to
for
I
know
there
are
people
on
the
council
that
were
not
here
in
2015
that
don't
know
while
that
was
done
and
how
it
was
done.
So
you'll
just
bring
that
back
when
you,
when
you
come
back
with
us
yeah.
Thank
you.
AP
Good
afternoon
Mr
Mayor
members
of
council
and
Mr
city
manager,
I'm
in
reference
to
Metra
I,
just
want
to
say
first
I
mean
it's.
It's
all
good
news.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
approving
the
pay
study
for
especially
bus
operators.
It
it
is,
it's
been
a
change
and,
as
Rita
said
earlier,
we
are
on
a
roll.
We,
as
she
said,
have
13
vacancies
and
five
are
right
now
going
through
the
approval
process.
We
also
interviewed
two
on
yesterday
that
if
they
are
cleared,
it's
going
to
get
us
down
to
six
vacancies.
AP
So
it's
it's
a
big
turnaround
and
I
can
tell
you
we're
doing
everything
that
we've
always
done
with
getting
the
applications
as
soon
as
HR
can
get
them
to
us.
They
always
have.
We've
always
interviewed
our
standards,
our
requirements.
Now
nothing
has
changed,
but
it's
the
pay
that
competitive
pain,
we're
now
getting
in
people
with
full
endorsements,
we're
getting
in
Class
A
truck
drivers,
they're
coming
off
the
road
and
coming
to
Metro.
So
we
we
see
great
things
happening.
We
have
a
great
team
over
there
at
Metro
they're
dedicated
employees.
AP
But
it
everything
is,
is
moving
in
the
right
direction.
We
are
still
recruiting
and
we're
looking
for
people
with
the
safe
driving
record.
They
are
able
to
work
flexible
hours,
they're,
reliable
and
they're
customer
friendly.
That's
what
we
need
and
when
we
have
that
we
see
our
ridership
go
up.
Our
ridership
is
up
now
when
covet
came
along.
We
were
down
about
2
000
trips
a
day
we're
at
close
to
3
000..
AP
So
the
ridership
is
climbing
because
we
have
Dependable
buses
where
you
all
have
approved,
grant
funding
to
allow
us
to
go
out
and
buy
buses.
So
we
have
that
reliable
service,
but
we
also
have
reliable.
You
know
employees,
but
we
they
know
the
bus
is
coming
and
we've
got
people
who
are
qualified
to
provide
the
service
to
our
citizens.
So
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
on
behalf
of
Metra
to
each
of
you
who
approved
it,
because
it's
all
the
pay
study
for
Metro
as
far
as
I
can
see.
Thank.
M
AM
Good
afternoon,
mayor
and
members
of
council
Mr
city
manager,
I
wish
I
had
as
great
news,
and
our
numbers
are
better
but
they're
definitely
far
from
where
we
would
like
to
be
and
as
Miss
hallwell
spoke.
Most
of
ours
are
part-time
positions
that
we
struggle
with,
and
that's
our
biggest
hurdle
60
over
60
of
the
positions
listed
are
in
our
after
schools
program
and
the
other.
Probably
most
of
the
others
are
a
combination
of
our
lifeguards
and
our
rec
centers
and
our
senior
centers
the
biggest
issue
we
Face.
AM
Although
most
of
our
positions
that
are
full-time,
we
are
doing
very
well
with
filling
with
the
help
of
of
HR
and
the
other
outside
events
and
things
that
we
have
done.
We
have
visited
numerous
job
fairs,
we've
hosted
single
day.
Events
where
we
advertise
bring
them
in
recruit
them
on
site,
fill
out
applications
and
do
the
whole
process
in
one
day.
So
we
are
doing
things
to
help
ourselves.
AM
AM
So
so,
in
our
biggest
competitive
area,
which
is
the
school
district
I
mentioned,
we
have
60
plus
positions,
but
where
we
raised
our
wages,
so
did
they,
and
so
we've
lost
a
lot
of
our
staff
over
to
the
school
district
and
our
after
school
programs,
and
so
we've
just
got
to
get
continue
to
be
creative
and
continue
to
try
to
go
out
and
look
for
people.
But
we
appreciate
hr's
help
with
all
that
done
to
assist
us
and
our
numbers
are
improving
but
they're,
just
not
where
we
want
them
to
be.
Thank
you.
AM
Them
right
now,
we
probably
only
have
one
to
two
sites
that
has
just
a
full-time
staff,
because
we
only
have
at
this
point.
We
were
only
budgeted
for
one
full-time
person
in
all
of
our
facilities
and
then,
depending
on
the
site
and
the
size
and
the
operating
hours,
they
have
anywhere
from
one
to
four
part-time
staff.
As.
AM
You
know
absolutely
well
absolutely
and
I've
come
before
you
guys
in
the
past
and
I've
spoken
anytime,
we've
had
to
usually
close
the
facility
we've
had
to
discuss
why
we
were
going
to
close
the
facility
and
a
lot
of
times
it's
because
we
only
have
a
one
one
full-time
person,
and
so,
if
we
lose
that
person,
then
we
obviously
we
don't
have
anyone
else
who
can
cover
for
us
to
make
those
hours.
H
C
H
AM
Problem
the
only
solution
would
be
such
as
when
I
came
through
the
budget
process
this
year
and
asked
for
the
additional
staff.
I
can
only
speak
to
what
it
was
when
I
started
with
the
city
20
years
ago,
and
our
staff
was
much
more
robust,
which
gave
us
some
cushions
so
that
when
we
did
have
someone
leave
it
wasn't
the
blow
to
the
to
the
facility
was
not
as
hard
because
we
could
balance
that
back
with
the
existing
staff.
While
we
searched
for
or
a
replacement
staff.
Now
we
don't
have
that
luxury.
AM
H
Sadly,
they're
not
not
going
to
say
they're,
not
Dependable,
because
they
really
are
especially
during
the
summer
times.
But
yes,
then
it
kind
of
Fades
away
and
our
directors
are
left
to
be
at
the
centers
by
themselves.
So
I
don't
know
if
it's
something
that
we
can
possibly
add
kind
of
like
a
floater
position,
I
don't
know,
but
we
I
I
definitely
think
we
need
to
look
at
doing
something
to
ensure
because,
sadly,
what's
going
to
happen,
those
individuals
are
going
to
get
burnt
out
and
then
they're
going
to
leave.
Leave
and
that's.
AM
What's
going
to
happen,
and
that
was
kind
of
my
presentation
earlier
this
year,
the
budget
process
we've
seen
that
repetitively
in
Parks
and
Recreation,
and
that's
that's
why
we
do
have
full-time
positions
that
do
open
up,
because
our
staff,
because
they're
the
only
ones
we
have
they
do
get
burnt
out,
especially
in
most
of
our
divisions,
because
we
are
seven
days
a
week
in
a
lot
of
our
space
or
six
days
at
least
a
minimum
holidays
weekends.
AM
Every
time
everybody
else
is
out
and
they're
always
working
and
so
they're,
unfortunately
not
able
to
take
off
anytime,
even
when
they
work
extra
extra
time,
they're
not
able
to
take
off
because
we
have
no
one
to
take
their
place,
but
with
a
shortage
of
Staff
positions,
not
just
the
shortage
of
Staff,
but
the
shortage
of
Staff
positions.
It
really
kind
of
limits
us
on
our
ability
to
give
people
time
off.
M
All
right
director
Hollowell
is
that
it
okay
and
mayor
and
Council
we've
had
a
lot
of
people.
You
may
wonder
why
they're
still
sitting
here
and
I
don't
know
exactly
who
they
are,
but
they
are
certainly
committed
to
clean
energy.
AQ
Staying
around
for
all
these
hours
to
be
a
part
of
this
presentation
that
they
are
a
part
of
we
are
here
this
afternoon
to
introduce
to
you
the
clean
energy
Columbus
initiative
that
we
are
going
to
be
embarking
upon,
and
this
is
to
help
reduce
the
carbon
footprint
and
to
work
towards
clean
energy
resources
that
will
reduce
our
air,
water,
land
pollution
and
Etc.
And
so
we
want
to
be
able
to
share
with
you
just
where
we
are
in
this
process.
AQ
We
began
meeting
with
clean
energy
Columbus
last
year,
opening
up
the
conversation
about
where
we
think
not
only
the
ccg
should
be,
but,
of
course,
the
city
of
Columbus
as
a
whole.
We
started
meeting
again
this
summer,
just
in
June
to
kind
of
re-energize
where
we
were
just
show
them
and
to
share
with
them
what
we
have
done
thus
far
and
some
of
the
plans
that
we
have
for
clean
energy
efforts
here
in
Columbus
and
just
so
that
you
know
this
is
going
to
be
a
very
brief
presentation.
AQ
But
immediately
following
my
presentation,
there
are
just
a
a
handful
of
the
Coalition
members.
I
want
to
speak
for
a
couple
of
minutes
just
to
share
with
you
why
they
see
this
effort
as
being
so
important
for
us
all
and
for
our
future,
the
current
and
Future
Energy
projects
that
we
are
considering
and
things
that
we
have
already
done
thus
far
are
we're
purchasing
the
electric
buses
that
is
funded
and
those
buses
are
on
order.
AQ
We
are
looking
to
install
the
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
that
we
will
deploy
throughout
the
city
that
is
funded
and
in
process.
So
that's
about
12
to
17
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
throughout
the
city.
We
have
installed
LED
lighting
in
our
parking
decks.
We,
of
course,
as
you
know,
have
a
green
roof
already
at
our
recycling
center
and
the
traffic
Street
and
traffic
lights
again
have
LED
lighting
that
has
been
installed.
AQ
That
is
already
complete
and,
of
course,
we're
always
looking
for
grant
opportunities
to
help
further
this
initiative
now
some
of
the
future
considerations
that
have
yet
not
been
vetted.
We
have
not
had
meeting
internally
to
talk
about
these
things,
but
these
are
just
some
ideas
that
we
have
that
we
want
to
discuss
and
we're
not
asking
for
anything
today
again,
solar
panels
placed
on
buildings
and
I
think
we
all
know
the
benefits
of
having
solar
panels
and
again.
AQ
The
other
thing
is
looking
at
Sustainable
Building
policies
for
new
construction
on
City
buildings,
actually
just
looking
at
those
new
processes
in
ways
that
we
can
just
minimize
that
footprint
consider
a
municipal,
efficient
procurement
policy,
those
people
that
do
business
with
the
city,
you
know
ensuring
that
they
have
and
they
meet
the
in
those
energy
and
those
sustainability
project.
AQ
Those
efforts
before
we
do
business
with
them
to
include
strategies
on
our
legislative
agenda
that
will,
for
instance,
be
a
sales,
tax
exemption
or
rebates
on
sustainability
efforts
by
those
we
do
business
with
and
consider
Energy
savings
performance
contracts.
AQ
AQ
The
goal
of
this
is
to
demonstrate
our
commitment
to
clean
energy,
reduce
our
energy
burden
and
become
one
of
the
greenest
cities
in
the
South,
create
a
mayor's
Commission
on
sustainability,
and
also
to
consider
a
sustainability
coordinator.
Someone
to
really
be
that
person
who
wraps
their
arms
around
this
initiative
and
work
toward
making
this
happen
create
a
written
sustainability
plan
through
2035
or
2040..
What
I
have
provided
to
you?
You
have
a
copy
of
a
resolution
and
that
resolution
again
has
been
vetted
by
Clean
Energy
Columbus.
AQ
They
are
in
agreement
with
that,
but
we're
just
sharing
that
with
you,
something
that
we
can
bring
back
and
place
on
the
city
manager's
agenda
for
adoption
and
what
this
basically
is
doing
is
giving
us
Authority
and
the
opportunity
to
put
together
a
vision
and
transition
plan
of
100,
clean,
renewable
energy
programs
and
policies
for
not
only
ccg
but
for
the
city
of
Columbus,
and
so
that
means
going
outside
of
our
walls
and
working
with
the
businesses
and
the
residents
and
those
persons
who
can
help
us
to
get
to
that
so
that
we
can
leave
this
city
better
than
we
found
it.
AQ
And
so
that's
what
this
is
all
about
again,
not
looking
for
any
action
today,
but
we
do
and
would
like
to
bring
this
back
to
you
for
consideration
to
put
together
this
plan
through
2040
that
we
will
bring
to
you
after
we
have
developed
the
plan
so
that
we
can
vet
it
to
with
you,
and
you
know,
prior
to
your
approval
of
that
plan.
If
you
agree
with
it
so.
J
That's
where
we
are
Thank,
you
Lisa,
and
you
know,
I
just
want
one
thing:
I
want
to
add,
because
a
lot
of
cities
in
Georgia
that
have
adopted
a
resolution
on
being
a
clean
City
and
then
it
kind
of
stopped
there
there's
no,
there
were
no
measurable
strategies
implemented
that
were
putting
them
on
a
path
towards
actually
achieving
some
of
these,
and
it
was
a
conscious
effort
by
this
government
not
to
put
forth
that
resolution
until
we
felt
like
we
had
a
a
path
or
a
plan
to
start
moving
us
toward
towards
some
of
those
goals.
J
Q
Q
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
I
would
like
to
sponsor
this.
If
any
other
council
person
would
like
to
go
in
with
me,
I'd
be
happy
to
have
you.
We
had
a
great
meeting.
I
was
invited
to
go
over.
Q
We
had
so
many
present
that
day
at
Miss
child's
home,
and
then
we
had
some
on
Zoom
and
was
talked
about,
and
the
first
thing
that
was
stated
was
we've
spoken
with
the
mayor,
and
the
mayor
has
a
an
ear
for
this
and
he
likes
what
he's
heard
and
he's
he
he's
probably
on
board.
So
since
they
are
part
of
my
new
District,
they
invited
me
over
to
see
if
I
would
be
a
part
of
it
and
I
agree.
I
spoke
with
Deputy
city
manager
Goodwin
this
morning.
Q
To
let
her
know,
I
did
make
the
phone
call
and
there's
a
person
in
Atlanta
that
wants
to
come
down
and
meet
with
Deputy
city
manager,
Goodwin
and
the
city
manager.
Anybody
wants
to
be
involved
in
the
group
on
some
things
that
he's
doing,
and
he
has
some
contracts
and
things
he's
doing
in
Atlanta
already
based
on
some
things.
You
told
me
and
talked
about
so
just
want
to.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
Q
I'm
excited
City
management,
I
have
conversations
from
time
to
time,
bits
and
pieces
and
he's
been
really
really
involved
in
GMA
over
the
years.
I've
been
on
the
hccg
side,
but
he's
come
back
with
a
lot
of
ideas.
We've
been
on
inner
city
trips
together,
and
we
see
a
lot
of
things
and
it's
like
today
when
they
were
presenting
the
trash
cans.
Those
are
the
solar
power
ones,
but
we
have
some
downtown
right
now
that
will
let
them
know
when
they
are
full
so
that
they
don't
have
to
check
them
all
night
long.
Q
D
AQ
AN
And
thank
you
so
much
counselor
Huff.
What
a
what
a
delightful
surprise
mayor,
Henderson
counselors!
It
is
such
an
honor
to
be
here
with
you,
it's
hard
to
find
a
group
more
committed
to
Columbus
than
you
are,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
the
energy
and
attention
to
detail
that
you
have
devoted
to
this
proceeding
is
extraordinary
and
I
know
that
that
is
only
a
part
of
it.
So
I.
Thank
you
very
much.
AN
As
Lisa
said,
my
name
is
Louisa.
Childs
I
was
born
and
raised
in
Columbus
I
live
in
Midtown
with
my
family
and
I'm,
a
founding
member
of
clean
energy
Columbus.
AN
Your
job
is
to
think
about
the
future
for
Columbus
and
part
of
my
job.
My
most
important
job
is
to
think
about
the
future.
AN
For
my
daughter
and
I'll
tell
you
what
keeps
me
up
at
night
is:
what's
happening
with
our
climate
and
what
that
may
mean
for
the
world
when
she
is
a
mother,
it's
hard
to
know
what
to
do
with
an
individual,
but
with
your
leadership,
what
we
can
do
as
a
city
is
powerful
and
as
mayor
Henderson
mentioned,
there
are
seven
cities
in
Georgia
who
have
adopted
a
clean
energy
resolution
and
it's
not
just
Atlanta
it's
Augusta
Savannah,
Athens,
Clarkston,
Decatur,
DeKalb,
County
and
Winterville,
and,
as
mayor
Henderson
said,
some
have
been
more
successful
than
others
and
that's
due
to
the
presence
of
a
plan
or
not.
AN
So
thank
you.
Deputy
city
manager,
Goodwin
for
setting
up
the
resolution.
As
you
have,
you
probably
know
that
high
today
is
only
94
degrees
and
we've
got
plenty
of
Sun.
Georgia
is
on
track
to
be
the
fourth
biggest
producer
of
solar
energy.
In
a
couple
of
years,
in
Georgia
there
have
been
75
000
jobs
created,
Around,
clean
energy
and
Columbus
should
have
a
part
of
those.
AN
I'll
also
tell
you
that,
as
you
know,
some
of
our
residents
pay
a
very
high
percentage
of
their
income
to
pay
for
energy
and
clean
energy
initiatives
can
help
address
these
problems
so
I'm
a
city
manager
hugely.
You
talked
about
the
Columbus
we
want
to
be,
and
thanks
to
all
of
you
guys,
we
are
already
leaving
Columbus
better
than
you
started
and
councilman
Davis
your
work
with
underprivileged
youth,
our
focus
on
culture
and
music
in
Columbus,
underprivileged
organizations
and
our
fantastic
CSU
entrepreneurship
in
downtown.
AN
AP
AR
For
your
patience
and
I
am
awed
by
your
ability
to
remain
attentive
over
this
incredible
period.
Today,
I'm
here
to
talk
to
you
about
clean
energy,
and
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways.
I
thought
as
a
professor
I
could
talk
about
this.
You
know
through
the
lens
of
hey
my
students
in
the
future
and
all
of
that,
but
I'm,
a
citizen
right,
just
like
you,
I
live
in
the
city
of
Columbus
I
have
for
17
years
and
I'm
a
citizen
who
really
takes
pride
in
Columbus.
AR
This
is
not
part
of
my
script,
but
I'll.
Just
tell
you
a
quick
story
when
I
was
first
taking
my
job
at
Columbus,
State
University
I
called
my
sister
who's,
a
very
very
religious
person
and
I
told
her
I
said
you
know,
want
to
celebrate
that.
I
got
this
job
in
Columbus
and
she
was
so
excited
because
she
lives
in
Columbus
also,
but
not
Columbus
Georgia.
AR
Right
and
the
point
here
being
that
I
feel
really
fortunate
to
be
here,
it's
a
very
special
place
and
it's
become
home
for
me
over
the
17
years
that
I've
lived
here,
but
there's
a
couple
things
that
I
want
to
share
with
you
as
a
scientist
that
I
think
might
be
relevant
to
this
conversation.
AR
AR
I'm,
50
plus
years
old,
we'll
keep
the
details
out
of
it.
Greenhouse
gases,
particularly
co2,
have
risen
by
more
than
25
percent,
and
the
temperature
outside
right
fluctuates
all
the
time,
but
the
global
average
temperature
is
risen
by
two
degrees
Fahrenheit
on
average,
since
the
1950s.
AR
AR
That's
why
we're
here
today
we
can
do
something
and
in
all
honesty,
I'm
sure
some
of
you
are
thinking.
Yet
this
resolution
Columbus
didn't
cause
the
climate
problem
and
Columbus
isn't
going
to
be
able
to
fix
it
alone.
Fair
Point
you're,
absolutely
right,
but
what
we
can
do
is
actually
help
lots
of
people
in
our
community.
We.
D
AR
Make
Columbus
a
more
sustainable
place
to
be?
We
can
attract
new
jobs,
New
Opportunities.
We
can
help
those
who
need
hope,
Mo
help
most
in
our
communities
and
we
can
make
Columbus
a
more
resilient
place
in
a
world
that
is
changing
really
rapidly
right
with
massive
storms
and
floods
and
all
sorts
of
other
things.
AR
In
Columbus
is
we
do
amazing
and
I
guess
what
I
would
ask
for.
You
is
to
think
about
that
think
about
our
future
and
let's
put
our
money
where
our
mouth
is.
Let's
do
this,
let's
make
a
difference.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
guys
do
and
I
hope
that
you
will
support
this
resolution.
Thank
you
very
much.
AG
What's
up
everyone,
how
y'all
doing
honorable
mayor
city,
council,
women
and
men?
Thank
you
for
everything
that
you
do.
My
name
is
z,
Arisha,
Z
Lawrence,
yes,
I'm
a
resident
of
Columbus
Georgia,
Muskogee
County,
most
of
the
times
you
see
me
I'm,
either
either
advocating
for
human
rights,
which
clean
energy
is
right
up
that
alley
or
music
right
today.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
it
back
basically,
because
I
know
we're
tired.
We
hungry
I'm
thinking
about
chicken
and
salsa
right
now,
I.
AG
Good
combination,
but
when
we
think
about
clean
energy,
y'all
fill
in
the
blank
clean
clothes,
clean
house,
clean
water,
clean
air,
clean
car,
clean
I,
don't
know
clean
energy
just
seems
very
fitting
that
we
should
be
focused
on
that
as
a
now
whether
we
have
a
plan
or
not,
because
a
small
step
for
a
man
is
a
giant
leap
for
mankind
and
I
live
way
down,
yonder
on
the
Chattahoochee.
AG
So
since
we're
right
here,
y'all,
let's
focus
on
clean
energy,
let's
get
behind
this
resolution,
but
then
let's
move
forward,
let's
not
be
slow
right.
There
are
other
cities
that
are
doing
things,
but
we're
Columbus,
we're
the
second
largest
city
in
Georgia
and
I
know
that
we're
going
to
win
in
every
way
possible.
So
thank
you.
I
want
to
bring
up
Christine.
AG
Looking
at
Mitch
I
was
like
wait,
wait,
but
thank
you
all
for
everything
you
do.
S
Good
morning,
good
evening,
good
afternoon,
I
I
wanna
thank
each
of
you
for
your
Collective
leadership.
You
are
committed
to
Columbus,
obviously,
I
I
look
around.
S
That
you're
at
your
trim,
physiques,
are
due,
maybe
not
for
pickleball
and
Tennis,
but
rather
for
the
City
Council
meetings
and
I
I
really
appreciate
what
you're
doing
to
bring
Columbus
into
the
future,
where
life
in
our
beautiful
city
is
inspiring
to
the
rest
of
the
state
of
Georgia.
S
So
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
from
the
faith
perspective
on
behalf
of
the
clean
energy
resolution.
I'm
Christine,
D,
Felicia,
Antonio
and
I
represent
the
creation
keepers
of
Saint
Thomas
Episcopal
church.
We
are
part
of
the
Outreach
Ministry
and
are
focused
on
expressing
our
faithfulness
in
a
right
relationship
with
creation.
S
I
was
going
to
go
on
and
say
some
more
things,
but
I
have
been
redlining
all
of
this
stuff
as
I
recognize
we
need
to
move
on,
but
these
handouts
that
I
am
I.
Handing
to
you
are
twofold:
one
is
a
collection
of
State
Faith
statements
for
caring
of
the
earth
and
the
second
is
living
the
Golden
Rule.
These
handouts
were
provided
by
our
collaborator,
the
Interfaith
Power
and
Light
and
they're
a
national
leader
engaging
Faith
communities
in
environmental
stewardship
and
climate
action.
S
So
if
you
take
a
look,
the
the
colorful
one
is
the
one
living
the
golden
rule.
That
was
their
theme
for
the
faith
climate
week
during
Earth
Day
back
in
April
and
I
can
recognize
that.
Maybe
we
all
grew
up
talking
about
or
from
our
grandmothers
leaving
the
golden
rule.
We
all
carry
personal
beliefs
and
values.
S
S
AS
Hello
councilors,
hello
mayor,
you
guys
buy
her
so
many
times
today,
but
thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
your
patience
with
all
this.
All
this,
my
name
is
Mick
Hutchison
I'm,
a
member
of
clean
energy,
Columbus
and
right
now,
senior
at
Clover,
State
University
I
wanted
to
come
here
today
to
ask
you
all
to
focus
on
this
message.
Oh
God
I
want
to
ask
you
all
to
vote
Yes
on
this
resolution
to
help
preserve
the
climate
for
future.
AS
Every
every
country,
every
state
everywhere
was
facing
very
very
direct.
Dramatic
heat
increases
this
year
and
although
we
as
a
City
Dodge,
the
worst
of
it,
I
feel
that
it's
only
a
matter
in
a
matter
of
time
before
we're
going
to
be
living
in
100
to
110
degree
weather
every
single
day
during
the
summer,
which
I
don't
think.
Anyone
would
really
like
that
much
combined
with
this.
AS
If
Georgia
continues
to
heat
up
the
way
it
is,
it
could
lead
to
less
and
less
people
living
here
and,
as
many
will
try
to
attempt
to
immigrate
to
cooler
States,
which
then,
if
that
happens,
it
could
effectively
end
the
city's
Positive
Growth.
That's
my
going
on
year
after
year,
with
that
said,
passing
this
resolution
I
believe,
will
increase,
preserve
and
increased
green
jobs,
which
will
not
only
help
retain
the.
I
AS
AS
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
I
hope
you
all
choose.
Wesley.
Q
Counselor
Huff
sorry
Jake,
real,
quick
I
wanted
to
pay
attention
to
a
person
sitting
down,
not
saying
anything
because
I
have
Mr
Lisa
cuts
to
stand.
Please.
Q
Lisa
was
instrumental
in
getting
Miss
Louisa
Childs
and
myself
together.
She
was
calling
me
I.
Think
I
may
have
tried
to
call
her
back,
but
anyway,
I
was
busy
busy
busy
and
Lisa
made
a
couple
of
phone
calls
to
make
sure
that
we
got
together
and
said
Bruce.
You
need
to
make
this
phone
call.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
bringing
us
together.
Q
Cancer
Davis
thanks
mayor
I,
see
my
neighbor
and
family.
That's
out
there
and
good
to
see
you
today,
I
just
wanted
to
say
the
young
gentleman
mayor
thanked
us
not
only
for
patience
but
thanked
us
for
his
time.
I'd
like
to
say
thank
you
for
your
patience
and
thank
you
for
your
time
being
here,
and
you
know
we.
We
challenge
each
other
here
at
the
table.
What
you
saw
today
is
basically
this
is
a
working
board
and
a
lot
of
stuff's
put
out
on
table.
We've
got
to
work
through
it.
Q
Unfortunately,
that's
how
it
works,
sometimes,
but
y'all
been
kind
to
to
kind
of
be
patient
with
us,
and
we
can't
do
anything.
But
thank
you
for
that.
Several
people
who
have
been
here,
but
we
appreciate
all
your
efforts,
I'm
reminded
of
a
trip
I
just
got
back
off
of
in
in
Asia,
and
you
know
what
was
what
what
struck
me
was
just
how
far
they're
ahead
in
some
of
these
areas
than
that
we
are
as
a
country.
Q
But
yet
we
claim
to
be
a
superpower
and
we're
you
know
we
we
supposed
to
be
on
The
Cutting
Edge,
but
then,
when
I
see
the
things
they're
doing
like
a
lot
of
things
with
the
LEDs
and
the
conservation
of
energy
and
things
like
that
that
that
the
solar
type
Energy
Solutions,
it's
it's
amazing
at
what
they're
doing
you
know,
even
with
the
technology
but
they're
so
far
advanced
than
we
are.
Q
But
you
know
we're
still
sitting
here
in
in
some
aspects,
so
I
can
relate
to
what
you're
saying
and
seeing
it
also.
Although
we've
got
some
very
positive
things
we
do
in
our
country,
you
know
because
it's
just
really
it's
sad
to
see.
We
were
talking
about
recyclables
earlier
when
you
look
at
some
of
these
Asian
countries
and
you
look
at
the
water
bodies
and
the
beaches
and
the
things
like
that
that
happened
over
there.
You
realize
it's
serious
and
it
could
happen
here.
Q
So
it's
good,
you
know,
there's
good
positives
and
negatives
there,
but
we
do
need
to
consider
some
of
these
things
and
I
think
as
time
goes
by
there'll
be
more
and
more
opportunities
and
more
and
more
types
of
technology
that
will
allow
us
to
to
do
these
things
and
to
do
it
cost
effective.
So
that's
it
thank
y'all.
Q
Q
Do
and
look
forward
to
working
with
each
of
them.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
waiting,
Mr
Mayor.
That
concludes
my
agenda.
All
right,
we'll
move
forward.
You
know
councilor
kogel.
Q
Just
before
we
end
the
city
managers,
I
got
a
text
message
from
the
Uptown
bid.
District
that
are
striping
downtown
has
commenced.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
making
that
happen.
So
very
good.
All
right,
Madam,
Clerk.
Q
Q
Item
two
Mr
Mayor
I'm
withdrawing
this
resolution
item
three:
is
a
resolution
excuse
in
councilor
Barnes
from
today's
meeting
motion
to
in
a
second
to
approve
excusing
councilor
Barnes,
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
Anyone
opposed
all
right.
It's
approved
next
Mr
Mayor
item
number
four:
this
is
a
letter
from
Mr
Lance
Hemmings
he's
the
chairperson
of
the
land
bank
Authority.
He
is
requesting
that
the
seat
of
Miss
Lauren
Chambers
be
declared
vacant
due
to
a
lack
of
attendance.
Q
It
may
be
received.
Motion
motion
to
receive
is
your
second
or
second,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
any
post,
that's
proof!
Item
five
is
an
email
correspondence
from
Mr
Jack
rosenhammer
he's
submitting
the
resignation
of
Mr
Spencer
Cantrell.
This
is
a
district
2
representative
on
these
motion.
Second,
to
receive
all
in
favor,
say
aye
any
posed
all
right!
That's
proof!
Item
six
is
also
an
email
from
Mr
Jack
rosenhammer
he's
the
chair
of
the
Civic
Center
Advisory
Board
he's
requesting
to
cease
be
declaration.
Second,
to
approve
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
Q
Anyone
opposed
all
right.
That's
approved,
Mr,
Mayor,
I,
believe
councilor
Begley
has
a
nominee
for
his
seat.
All
right,
Council
Begley
I,
would
like
to
nominate
Katie
Bishop.
She
has
a
lot
of
experience
playing
events
and
obviously
a
lot
of
experience
working
with
the
city.
Q
All
right,
Motion
in
second
received
minutes
from
divorce.
I
know.
Normally
it's
mayor,
Pro
Tem,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
any
opposed
they
are,
they
are
received.
Next,
we
have
board
appointments.
We
have
Council
nominations.
This
is
for
the
hospital
authority
of
Columbus
the
seat
of
Jenny's
Chester.
She
is
requesting
to
rotate
off
the
authority.
The
council
submits
three
nominees
to
the
hospital
Authority
for
each
seat
and
the
hospital
Authority
selects
a
successor
and
then
the
council
confirms.
Q
Are
there
any
nominees
today?
Q
Next,
we
have
Council
District
seat
appointment,
the
public
safety
advisory
commission,
mayor
Pro,
tem
Allen
is
nominating
Mitch
Watkins
for
his
vacant
district
6
seat,
and
he
may
be
confirmed
motion
second
to
confirm
Mr
Watkins,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
any
post.
All
right
he's
confirmed
Public
Safety
advisory
Commission,
it's
a
district
seat
appointment.
Q
Next
we
have
Council
appointments.
Any
nominations
will
be
listed
for
the
next
meeting,
The
Cooperative
Extension
Advisory
Board,
the
seat
of
Helen
Williams.
She
did
not
desire
to
be
reappointed.
It
is
open
for
nominations
for
the
keep
Columbus
beautiful
commission.
We
have
the
seat
of
Kimberly
Wright.
She
was
unable
to
accept
this
appointment.
We
also
have
Lee
Jordan
and
Dr
Coretta
Venable.
Q
Q
If
a
member
of
council
wanted
to
thank
you,
Council
Huff
is
making
that
nomination.
We
will
bring
this
back
for
the
next
meeting
for
confirmation
still
working
with
the
key
Columbus
beautiful
director
in
order
to
feel
the
other
seats
did
Mr
Jordan
want
to
be
very
appointed
he's
eligible.
According
to
this
Mr
Lee
Jordan
yeah
I'm
just
curious
all
right.
He
he
is
eligible
Mr,
Mayor,
but
I
believe
he
has
not
been
attending
so
timely
with
it.
Okay,
yes,
sir
I
thought
I'd
ask.
Q
Q
Q
Q
We
also
have
the
have
some
upcoming
board
appointments,
the
animal
control
Advisory
Board.
These
are
council's
appointments
Board
of
Honor.
These
are
Council
appointments,
Columbus
Iron
Works
convention
and
trade
center
Authority
Mr
Mary.
This
is
your
appointment,
the
land
bank
Authority.
This
is
council's
appointment,
the
Liberty
Theater
and
Cultural
Arts
Center
Advisory
Board.
These
are
council's
appointments,
Public
Safety
advisory
commission,
the
mayor
and
Council
has
appointments
for
this
board
the
Uptown
facade
board.
The
council
considers
recommendations
from
the
respective
organization
for
this
board
and
that's
all
I
have
Mr
Mayor.
Q
Q
All
right,
we
have
been
an
executive
session
where
we
discussed
real
estate,
the
potential
acquisition
and
or
disposition
of
real
estate.
No
votes
were
taken,
councilor
Tucker.
Q
Q
The
top
two
was
were
Parks
and
Recreation
and
code
enforcement,
and
then
it
kind
of
got
a
little
fuzzy,
but
I
think
ARCA
came
in
third,
but
we
just
need
to
decide
what
the
third
item
would
be,
that
we
want
discuss
more
in
depth,
so
the
city
manager
can
have
the
department
head
provide
the
information
for
our
work
session,
which
one
is
the
most
like
of
the
of
those
remaining.
What
is
the
most
crucial
or
time
sensitive
one
I
would
think
arfa
is
yeah,
so
do
do
y'all.
Q
Yes,
sir
I
know
the
deputy
city
manager
who
handles
that
is
not
going
to
be
here
on
the
29th,
so
we're
happy
to
bring
an
update
at
the
next
meeting
on
the
22nd
I
believe
on
Harper.
Q
Q
Yeah,
the
29th
would
be
Parks
and
Rec,
and
also
code
enforcement,
and
it's
just
having
really
like
a
deep
dive
conversation
of
some
of
the
issues
that
you
know
we've
been
having,
especially
with
code
enforcement.