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From YouTube: Columbus GA FY24 Budget Review Meeting 05-09-2023
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Columbus GA FY24 Budget Review Meeting 05-09-2023
A
The
Council
budget
committee
and
I
want
to
welcome
you
here
today.
We
have
just
a
couple
of
announcements
and
so
forth
before
we
get
started
into
the
presentations
by
the
various
departments
and
to
begin
our
session
I'd
like
to
recognize
mayor,
Pro,
Tim,
Allen,.
B
C
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
budget
chair.
As
you
all
know,
with
the
retirement
of
council
John
house,
we
lost
our
budget
co-chair.
Our
vice
chair,
so
I
have
talked
with
councilor
Bagley
and
he
has
agreed
to
step
into
that
role.
So
I
would
like
to
place
a
nomination
Tyson
Begley
as
Vice
chair
of
the
budget
committee.
Okay,.
A
We
have
a
nomination
for
Vice,
chair
of
the
budget
committee.
Are
there
other
nominations?
Other
nominations.
Nominations
are
hereby
closed.
All
those
in
favor
of
councilor
bigley,
being
the
vice
chair
of
the
budget
committee,
please
say:
aye.
Are
there
any
opposed
the
eyes?
Have
it?
We
are
duly
elected.
Welcome
aboard
as
their
budget
Vice
chair.
A
One
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
do,
as
we
begin,
is
to
go
to
the
mayor
and
then
to
the
city
manager
for
a
short
statement
from
each
one
of
them.
As
we
begin
our
session
this
afternoon,.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
don't
have
much
to
say
other
than
what
we
have
already
covered
in
the
in
the
first
budget
hearing
other
than
the
fact
that
I'll
reiterate
that
this
was
a
very
difficult
budget.
I
appreciate
all
the
effort
the
staff
put
into
it,
because
it
was
not
easy
for
them
to
try
to
cover
everything
we
had
to
cover
and
still
be
able
to
they
implement
the
pay
plan.
D
I
will
point
out
that
a
lot
of
folks
that
you'll,
probably
hear
from
not
just
today
but
going
forward,
are
our
individual
departments
that
have
made
cases
for
personnel
and
I'm
telling
you
that
there
were
some
really
good
cases.
I
agree
with
with
most
of
them,
if
not,
if
not
all,
but
the
challenge
is
with
the
additional
hit
from
the
pay
plan,
some
challenges
to
EMS
and
and
Integrated
Waste,
it's
just
almost
impossible
to
find
the
funding.
Now.
D
The
hope
is
that,
as
we
move
into
mid-year-
and
we
see
some
of
the
salary
savings
backfill,
some
of
the
gaps
that
was
created
in
the
general
fund
balance
Reserve.
There
may
be
an
opportunity
to
look
back
at
some
of
these,
but
I
mean
there's
some
departments
you're
going
to
hear
from
that.
Have
some
real
needs
with
regards
to
Personnel,
it's
just
that
the
money
and
the
funding
was
not
there.
D
E
Thank
you,
madam
by
the
chair
and
the
mayor,
summed
it
up
so
well
that
I
would
just
say
ditto,
but
I,
I
and
and
the
point
that
the
elected
officials
Deport
mehias,
who
are
going
to
appear
before
you
I,
said
last
meeting
their
requests
are
valid.
They
need
what
they're
asking
for
and
if
we
have
the
funding
you
know
as
we
forwarded
the
May,
the
budget
to
the
mayor,
I
would
have
funded
them
and,
in
fact
thought
that
we
would
be
able
to
fund
some
of
them
I.
E
E
The
public
offender
Defender
made
the
point
that
each
one
of
the
public
defenders
are
carrying
450
to
500
clients,
each
450
to
500
each
and
typically
the
public
defender
himself
would
not
have
that
kind
of
a
caseload
such
as
that,
but
he
has
a
caseload
of
450
to
500
clients
and
when
they
broke
it
down
to
us,
the
public
defenders
average
about
three
minutes
per
client
with
the
load
that
they're
carrying
they
need
more
people.
E
The
challenge
is:
how
do
you
fund
it
at
this
time,
and
so
at
some
point
we
know
they
need
what
they
need
and
so
I'll
just
leave
it
there.
Man
budget's
here
to
say
that
there
are
some
needs
throughout
the
government
by
elect
officials
and
department
heads,
maybe
at
mid-year.
We
could
look
at
something,
but
at
this
point
you
know
the
need
is
there,
but
we
just
don't
know
how
we
fund
it.
I'll
leave
it
there.
A
Thank
you,
Mr
city
manager,
Mr
Mayor,
as
we
begin
I'm
going
to
fairly
quickly
go
through
the
process
that
we
have.
We
did
this.
We
had
our
first
meeting
last
Tuesday
and
we
went
through
the
process
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
those
who
are
watching
today
know
how
we
got
to
this
point.
Under
our
city.
A
Charter,
the
city
manager
prepares
a
recommended
budget
to
give
to
the
mayor
and,
as
the
city
manager
does,
that
he
begins
meeting
in
January
with
the
various
department
heads
about
what
their
budget
needs
to
be,
and
then
he
and
his
staff
put
together
a
recommended
budget
to
give
to
the
mayor.
The
mayor
then
recommends
to
this
group
the
mayor's
budget.
A
If
you
are
interested
in
seeing
what's
in
the
budget,
the
complete
budget
is
on
the
city
website,
and
it's
this
this
big,
and
if
you
want
a
summary,
it
is
also
on
the
city
website
and
under
the
charter.
A
Again,
we
will
be
posting
a
summary
in
The
Ledger
Inquirer,
which
is
the
newspaper
with
the
largest
circulation
in
in
the
city,
so
that
will
be
where
citizens
can
see
what
the
budget,
what
is
in
the
budget,
what
is
proposed
in
the
budget,
and
we
also
we
had
a
our
first
meeting
last
week
and
we
had
this-
is
the
second
meeting
today
we're
going
to
be
hearing
from
department,
heads
and
and
elected
officials
on
what
they
they
want
us
to
know
about
their
budget
and
what
they
want
us
to
know
about,
perhaps
extending
their
budget
and
then
next
week
my
the
16th
next
Tuesday
at
nine
o'clock.
A
We
will
have
another
budget
hearing
and
we
have
people
who
are
both
department,
heads
and
elected
officials
who
will
be
coming
before
us
to
make
their
presentation
to
us
about
what
what
we
need
to
to
know.
We
also
the
way
that
we
do
this
is
we
use
what
we
call
an
add
delete
list
and,
as
the
presentations
are
made
to
the
budget
committee,
if
one
of
the
commission,
one
of
the
counselors,
wants
an
item
in
that
presentation
to
be
added
to
the
budget.
A
They
ask
that
it
be
put
on
the
add
delete
list
on
the
ad
side
at
some
point
along
the
way
we
we
will
have
to
determine.
If
we
add
this,
where
do
we?
What
do
we
delete
in
order
to
get
the
money
to
add
this?
That
process
will
be
done
on
the
20th
on
the
16th.
Also
we
have,
as
those
of
you
in
the
audience
know.
We
have
today
elected
our
new
Vice,
chair,
councilor
bigley.
A
We
appreciate
your
willingness
to
take
on
that
role
and
we
are
now
ready,
I
think
for
the
presentations
by
the
department,
directors
and
our
first
one
up
is
the
clerk
of
superior
court
clerk
Forte
is
going
to
come
to
the
mic.
Would
you
come
to
the
microphone
and
make
your
presentation
Madam.
F
F
There
is
a
utilization
of
fund
balance
in
the
budget
of
about
10
and
a
half
million
about
5.8
million
of
that
is
in
the
general
fund.
Most
of
the
Departments
that
you'll
hear
today
are
represented
out
of
the
general
fund,
but
in
terms
of
the
add
delete
list,
there
were
two
items
added
to
the
ad
delete
list.
F
The
beginning
estimated
fund
balance
was
15.38
days,
but
with
the
two
items
that
were
added
at
last
week's
session,
we're
at
15.20
days,
so
I
just
wanted
to
provide
that
information
before
we
got
into
the
presentations
so.
A
We
have
not
at
this
point,
however,
said
what,
where
we're
going
to
take
this
money
from
that's.
A
That
estimated
days
remaining
should
not
have
changed.
F
A
A
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
I
would
like
to
First
acknowledge
those
that
have
come
with
me.
I
have
my
chief
Deputy
clerk,
Garrett
cothran
assistant
chief
Deputy,
cleric
Millicent
burden,
Superior,
Court
supervisor,
Taylor
bottoms,
also
in
support
of
what
I'm
going
to
present.
We
do
have
Chief
Superior,
Court,
Judge,
Arthur
Smith
and
his
assistant
Liz
Barker.
We
also
have
Ed
Berry
who's,
the
Circuit
Court
Administrator,
so
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
them.
G
They've
come
in
support
of
the
request
and,
of
course,
the
city
manager
and
the
mayor
of
giving
you
the
heads
up.
Yes,
I
am
asking
for
additional
personnel
and
historically
for
the
past
four
fiscal
years,
I've
asked-
and
this
is
the
fifth
time
asking
and
we've
gotten
some
and
it's
kind
of
been
a
ebb
and
flow,
but
this
is
probably
the
most
crucial
request
that
I've
had
as
far
as
Personnel,
because
we
can
see
the
groundwork
and
we
know
where
we
need
to
go.
G
We
just
need
you
all
to
supply
us
with
what
we
need
in
order
to
make
our
courtroom
proceedings
successful.
Historically,
before
my
tenure,
we
went
from
four
Superior
Court
judges
to
seven.
Unfortunately,
we
did
not
increase
the
courtroom,
Deputy
clerks,
to
provide
services
and
do
what
is
statutorily
required
in
the
courtroom.
We
have
six
courtroom.
Clerks
the
courtroom
clerks
cover
everything
in
the
superior
cro
during
the
superior
criminal
proceedings.
They
also
are
required
to
cover.
G
What's
in
the
office,
the
phone
ringing
people
coming
across
the
counter
processes,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
like
to
correct
right
now
is
the
thought
that,
when
things
become
digitized
that
it
becomes
easier
before,
if
you
wanted
to
file
something
in
our
office,
you
had
to
mail
it
or
you
had
to
come
in
and
file
it.
Now
we
have
a
thing
called
e-filing.
G
So
when
my
Deputy
clerks
come
into
the
office,
the
queue
is
filled
with
things
that
need
to
be
processed
because
people
are
able
now
to
file
things
24
hours
a
day.
So,
in
addition
to
the
courtroom,
we
also
have
they
also
have
to
cover.
What's
in
the
office,
so
seven
judges,
six
Deputy
clerks-
were
already
uneven,
but
wait
a
minute
as
the
commercial
says,
there's
more,
we
have
senior
judges.
We
have
three
of
those
so
now
we're
at
10
judges.
Six
courtroom
clerks,
but
wait
a
minute
there's
more.
G
We
also
have,
in
addition
to
the
Constitutional
and
statutory
criminal
proceedings.
We
have
to
be
present
and
and
be
present
in
the
courtroom.
During
those
proceedings
we
also
have
our
specialty
courts,
so
we
have
drug
court
veterans,
court
and
mental
health
court.
So
we
have
all
of
that
for
these
six
Deputy
clerks
to
handle.
There
are
plenty
of
times
in
my
supervisor
can
attest
to
this.
Where
people
come
to
the
counter.
G
No
one
is
in
the
office
that
can
help
with
Superior
criminal
matters
because
they're
all
in
the
courtroom,
so
other
departments
will
try
to
jump
in.
My
administrative
staff
would
try
to
jump
in
in
order
to
accommodate
those
individuals.
We
do
have
just
to
give
you
the
full
explanation
for
transparency.
We
have
two
docket
clerks
that
are
also
in
that
Superior
Criminal,
Division
and
as
The
Sopranos
say
forget
about
it.
They
definitely
can't
help.
There
are
two
clerks
that
handle
the
judges.
Seven
judges
well
actually
ten
judges.
G
Then,
if
you
get
the
three
specialty
courts,
then
you
have
more
criminal
proceedings.
They
handle
the
calendar
so
they're
the
ones
taking
the
phone
calls
from
the
attorneys
stating
that
hey
I
can't
come
in
I,
have
surgery
or
some
so
they're
handling
the
calendar
so
they're
in
the
back
juggling
that
so
they
aren't
really
able
to
assist
at
all
with
the
front
counter.
So
that
is
where
we
are.
We
are
extremely
lopsided
what
we
so
what
we
were
forced
to
do
initially
when
I
became
the
clerk
was
the
deputy
clerks
would
go
into
the
courtroom.
G
Fortunately,
office
homework.
Could
easily
result
in
delayed
criminal
processes,
impact
and
releases
from
jail,
and
it's
just
a
scary
situation
when
you
have
that,
because
you
only
have
one
person
that
could
possibly
cover
court,
but
if
there's
seven
proceedings,
then
we're
just
trying
to
find
bodies
to
kind
of
fill
in
and
do
the
best
that
we
can
now
we
have
started
implementing
additional
processes
whereby
the
courtroom
proceedings
can
be
done
in
court
because,
with
the
office
homework
scenario,
that
I
was
explaining.
G
Unfortunately,
when
that
Deputy
clerk
got
to
that
stat,
they
would
check
their
notes
and
they
would
draft,
let's
say
an
order.
They
would
send
that
to
the
judge,
the
judge
and
his
assistant
or
his
law
clerk
would
look
it
over.
Oh,
maybe
it's
not
matching
I've
even
been
involved
personally,
if
there
was
a
discrepancy,
whether
the
court
reporter
could
tell
us
what
actually
happened
so
now,
the
court
reporter
has
to
transcribe.
It
just
causes
a
delay.
What
we
have
been
fine-tuning
is
getting
the
processes
done,
while
in
court.
G
In
other
words,
you
have
the
prosecutor,
the
defense
attorney
probation,
who
all
the
all
the
parties
involved
in
the
criminal
proceeding.
The
deputy
Clerk
and
the
judge,
where
the
judge
actually
signs
the
order
in
court
and
it
is
completed
in
court
with
all
eyes,
on
the
documentation
in
order
for
there
to
be
efficiency
and
accuracy
in
those
documents,
and
so
that
is
where
we
are.
G
We've
put
additional
I.T
copy
machines
and
scanners
in
order
to
help
facilitate
that
and
I'm
going
to
read
briefly
from
judge
Gottfried,
who
is
also
in
support
of
what
we're
doing,
because,
while
I
researched
this,
it
turns
out
that
the
clerk's
Authority,
which
is
over
all
the
superior
clerks
in
the
state,
they
recommend
no
less
than
two
people
be
in
the
courtroom
at
any
given
time
during
a
courtroom
proceeding,
we
only
have
one
and
so
judge,
Gottfried
wrote
to
me
in
preparation
for
the
presentation
she
says
your
office
is
making
great
strides
in
getting
things
taken.
G
G
During
our
preliminary
discussions,
we
were
told
that
you
know
maybe
two
and
so
our
response,
as
it's
always
been,
will
take
whatever
we
can
get
so
as
I
come
before
you
I
will
say
for
the
record.
We
asked
for
five
and
our
Superior
criminal,
but
I'm
really
really
trying
and
gunning
for
the
two,
because
with
the
two
I
can
probably
use
them
as
a
floater.
In
order
to
ensure
there
are
at
least
two
people
in
the
courtroom,
one
dedicated
to
the
judge
and
one
dedicated
to
the
proceedings
that
we
have
to
cover.
G
We
have
to
provide
certified
copies,
while
in
court
we
have
to
keep
up
with
the
juries
list.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
going
on
and
it's
a
juggling
act
and
it
is
great
and
and
even
some
of
the
dockets
I
know
when
I
was
in
the
DA's
office
may
have
you
know
upwards
of
a
hundred
cases,
and
so
maybe
the
two
can
you
take
the
even
numbers.
G
G
Do
that
I
did
want
to
my
supervisor
was
gracious
enough
to
tell
me
that,
as
we
sit
here,
we
have
7
358
Active
cases
120
on
average
are
bound
over
to
Superior
Court
a
week
and
that
we
close
out
25
to
50
cases
weekly
and
because
of
the
inequity
some
of
my
more
senior
Deputy
clerks.
If
there's
a
downtime
in
court,
which
is
where
they're
trying
to
attack
the
e-filing,
it
is
just
more
than
the
understaffed
Personnel
can
handle
and
we're
so
close
to
getting
it
to
a
acceptable
level.
We
just
need
the
Manpower.
G
That
is
why
I'm
asking
for
the
two
Superior
Court
Deputy
clerks
and
with
that
the
cost
would
be
93
346
dollars
from
the
fund
balance
reserves
with
0.16
days
of
Reserves.
A
You're
good
wait,
wait
just
a
minute
Charmaine
councilor
crab.
You
were.
A
It's
on
page
128
is
the
recap
of
the
the
clerk
of
superior.
H
A
A
G
A
I
Oh
councilor
Tucker,
yes,
I
was
going
to
add
the
two
to
the
athlete
list.
A
A
I
And
you
said:
0.16
yes
days
of
Reserves.
A
Okay,
what
we,
what
we
will
do
is
you
are
on
the
you're
on
the
add
list,
and
it
will
be
when
we
have
completed
the
ad
list
that
we
will
determine
where,
where
to
take
it
from
all
of
those
kinds
of
things
that
will
be
at
next
week's
meeting.
So
you
just
give
us
another
week
and
if,
if
you
want
to
come
back
next
week
and
and
here
you're
more
than
welcome
to
do
that,
but
it
will
be,
it
will
be
televised.
A
Else
any
questions
or
comments
for
Madam
Clerk.
A
I
A
Okay,
our
our
next
person
on
the
agenda
is
I
believe
is
our
Deputy
Clerk
of
council,
Sandra,
Davis
and
so
Miss
Davis.
If
you'll
go
to
the
mic,
we
will.
A
J
Okay,
thank
you
good
afternoon,
Madame
budget
chair
members
of
the
budget,
Review
Committee
and
the
administrators
I
want
to
first
start
by
talking
about
the
organizational
structure
of
the
clerk
of
council's
office.
The
clerk's
office
has
a
full-time
clerk,
Deputy
clerk.
That's
full
time,
has
a
deputy
clerk
pro
team.
That's
part-time
and
administrative
support,
specialist
too
that's
full-time
and
a
support
clerk,
that's
part-time,
I'm,
sorry
that
equates
to
three
full-time
employees
and
two
part-time
employees.
J
The
requests
that
I
bring
before
you
today
is
to
change
the
support
clerk
position
from
a
part-time
to
a
full-time
position.
The
support
clerk
is
the
lowest
paid
personnel,
and
this
is
one
of
the
main
reasons
why
I
selected
this
particular
position
to
request
full-time
status.
J
Okay
and
the
reasons
for
the
request
need
for
another
full-time
administrative
support
Personnel
to
assist
with
the
needs
of
the
office
transfer,
older
handwritten
documents
into
electronic
format
to
assist
with
producing
records
for
more
transparency
and
accessibility.
J
There's
also
been
an
increase
in
requests
for
research,
work,
work
with
regards
to
the
records
from
1970
and
earlier.
This
is
a
very
tedious
process
that
requires
that
the
employee
go
into
the
records
and
it's
like
pulling
a
needle
out
of
a
haystack.
You
have
to
go
Hand
by
hand
because
there
is
no
index
for
these
records
and
so
we're
getting
more
requests
from
departments
to
do
that.
Research
work,
I
have
assigned
that
to
the
part-time
personnel
I.
J
Don't
have
any
other
staff
member
that
can
take
that
type
of
time,
because
you,
the
the
goal,
is
to
find
a
document,
and
hopefully
that
will
send
you
to
another
document.
So
you
can
connect
all
the
dots
in
order
to
be
able
to
present
it
and
just
a
justification
summary.
The
clerk's
office
continues.
His
quest
to
be
efficient,
technologically
advanced
and
supporting
transparency
by
providing
more
information
on
the
website
for
public
accessibility
and
maximizing
productivity
by
the
availability
of
an
appropriate
level
of
support
staff.
J
Now
the
budget
requests
I
know
it's
time
to
talk
dollars
and
cents,
so
the
support
clerk
position
is
a
grade
111..
This
was
a
sign
during
the
Evergreen
new
pay
plan
assessment.
J
J
Okay
annually,
that
position
will
not
exceed
the
amount
of
eighteen
thousand.
Seven
twenty,
but
the
annual
salary
for
on
a
full
on
a
full-time
level
would
be
thirty.
One
thousand
two
hundred
this
is
a
difference
of
twelve
thousand
four.
Eighty
and
I
did
want
to
State
a
disclaimer.
J
This
is
my
calculations
according
to
looking
at
the
salary
for
that
pay
grade,
and
so
I
just
want
to
offer
my
quote
for
the
day
as
I
do
normally
when
I
present
the
power
for
creating
a
better
future
is
contained
in
the
present
moment
and
that's
by
Eckard
told
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
present
today
and
I
will
try
to
respond
to
any
questions.
Are.
A
There
questions
for
Miss,
Davis.
A
Okay,
councilor
Crabb
has
added
changing
the
support
clerk
from
part-time
to
full-time
and
that's
estimated
at
twelve
thousand
four
hundred
and
eighty
dollars
and
and,
as
you
said,
Miss
Davis.
The
finance
department
will
make
sure
that
all
these
figures
are
correct
and
and
that
they're
they're
the
right
figure.
But
at
this
point
the
support
clerk
from
part-time
to
full-time
would
be
12,
000
480,
yes,.
A
Anything
else
for
Miss
Davis,
okay,.
K
I'm
budget
chair
I
talked
a
little
while
ago
during
our
council
meeting
about
a
an
initiative
that
I
think
is
a
it's
a
good
thing
to
do.
K
It's
best
practices
and
I
think
that
many
of
the
council
members
were
the
last
two
years
include
myself
have
asked
that
we
really
get
a
really
close
look
at
what's
going
on
in
the
Integrated
Waste
fund
and
specifically
dealing
with
trash
this
this
right
now,
what
I
would
consider
a
hybrid
type
of
setup
that
we
got
going
with
M
waste
and,
and
that
seems
to
be
successful,
but
you
know
we,
we
I
think
it's.
K
Looking
for
a
current
understanding,
a
cost-benefit
analysis
that
we
can
get
a
better
focus
on
exactly
what
we
need
to
do
with
that
fund
and
where
we
need
to
go
in
the
future
and
what
that
detailed
report
would
have,
it
would
look
at
it
and
take
a
a
clear
look
at
all
on
the
on
the
revenue,
revenue,
collection,
side,
the
expenditures,
the
the
savings,
the
cost
savings,
any
any
situation
that
might
add
up
at
the
end
of
the
day.
K
You
put
it
all
in
the
mixer
and
you'll
have
a
better
understanding
of
what
we
need
to
do
as
a
council
and
considering
moving
forward.
I
brought
this
up
when
we
were
talking
about
the
the
pay
plan
and
I
I
asked
to
remove
I
think
there
was
a
a
suggestion
to
try
to
raise
the
Integrated
Waste
fee
in
order
to
implement
the
pay
plan.
K
We
took
that
out
of
the
pay
plan,
one
of
the
things
the
one
of
the
the
thought
process
behind
that
was
to
give
us
some
time
to
take
a
look
at
this
thing
as
we
move
forward
and
try
and
try
to
understand
it.
A
little
bit
better.
Counselor
crab
just
recently
talked
about
you
know
having
that
information
that
she
needed
to
to
understand
the
the
model
a
little
bit
better
as
we
move
forward.
I
think
a
good
thing
to
do
would
do
would
be
to
to
have
an
independent
group.
Do
it
a
local
group?
K
Do
it
and
so
I
reached
out
about
a
year
ago
to
the
head
of
accounting
and
finance,
CSU,
Dr,
boster
and
kind
of
laid
it
all
out
for
him
to
see
if
there
was
an
opportunity
that
we
could
do
something
with
them
and
that
they
could
put
a
report
and
and
get
it
to
us
that
it
we
were
begging
for
that
type
of
a
breakdown.
But
we
didn't
we
needed
to
do
it
externally.
We
didn't
need
to
do
it
internally.
K
I
would
like
to
add
ten
thousand
dollars
to
the
clerk
of
council's
budget
and
the
reason
I'm
doing
it
there
because
I'd
like
this
to
be
a
council
initiative,
I'd
like
for
it
to
come
to
council
I,
would
also
like
to
include
our
internal
auditor's
office.
K
I
think,
there's
a
relationship,
a
connection
where
they
know
each
other,
the
the
professionals
there
at
CSU
and
and
also
our
internal
auditor
and
I,
think
in
conjunction
they
can
work
together
to
try
to
make
that
work,
but
I'd
like
to
see
that
in
the
in
the
clerk's
budget,
because
it
is
a
council
initiative
right
now.
It's
my
understanding
that
a
study
like
that
would
be
anywhere
from
3
500
to
4.
K
500
but
I'm
putting
10
in
there
just
because
a
little
leadway
in
case
something
comes
up,
but
I
would
ask
Council
to
support
that
and
that
we
move
forward
with
that,
because
I
really
think
it's
it's
the
right
information
that
we
need
is
the
right
information
we
need,
as
as
we
move
forward,
because
we're
going
to
be,
as
as
the
executive
management
has
come
to
us.
They've
told
us
that
there
are
some
challenges
on
the
horizon.
K
I
think
this
would
be
a
good
document
for
us
to
to
to
understand
and
the
citizens
I
think
would
appreciate
it
too,
knowing
that
our
local
University,
who
they're
also
taxpayers
too,
and
they
also
pay
into
the
Integrated
Waste
fund,
and
they
also
understand
the
challenges
I
think
they
would
be
a
good
entity
to
to
pull
some
of
that
together
and
it
would
just
be
collecting
the
information
data
from
our
various
departments,
pulling
it
all
together
and
giving
us
that
snapshot
and
that's
why
I
I
have
asked
to
put
it
in
the
clerk
of
council's
budget.
K
So
we
can
at
the
right
time
we
can
move
forward
with
that,
and
then
the
internal
auditor
in
between
them
and
CSU
they
can.
They
can
make
that
work
and
hopefully
get
us
a
document
here
soon.
A
A
L
A
Okay,
so
we
have
added
to
the
clerk's
Clerk
of
council
a
part-time
to
full-time
position
and
then
the
integrated
way
study
ten
thousand
dollars.
Other
things
for
the
Clerk
of
council.
A
Okay,
next
on
our
list
is
our
district
attorney.
Mr
Stacy,
Jackson,
Mr,
Jackson
I
think
this
may
be
the
first
time
you've
spoken
to
this
Budget
Group,
so
welcome
aboard.
We
don't
bite,
but
we
we
do
ask
questions
so
if
you'll
begin.
Thank
you.
M
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
to
the
speak.
What
I
want
to
do
is
just
and
excuse
my
moving
fast
I'm.
Just
gonna
give
you
a
broad
overview
of
the
office
and
what
we're
doing
let
you
know
what
I'm
asking
for
and
then
I
move
to
the
operational
request
form
we,
according
to
2020
census,
it's
going
to
be
kind
of
populations
about
206
000.
M
We
have
about
close
to
6
000,
pending
felony
cases
in
Muskogee
County,
as
we
speak,
based
on
the
data
yesterday.
So
far
in
2023
in
Muskogee,
County,
we've
closed
1
247
cases
we
have
about
118
murder
cases
pending
when
I
took
over
on
May
20th
2022
when
I
was
sworn
in.
The
office
was
down.
Seven
assistant
DA's,
including
the
chief
assistant
district
attorney,
now
we're
full
staff
with
no
unfilled
state
or
city
positions.
M
The
three
ARP
positions
have
been
filled
back
in
June
2022
had
asked
the
city
manager
and
Council
to
increase
the
discretionary
funds
to
allow
for
supplements
for
attorneys
and
some
other
members
of
the
staff.
Those
funds
have
been
exhausted
and
we
have
been
able
to
fill
those
positions
and
retain
those
positions
with
those
discretionary
funds.
M
You
have
nine
investigators
who
have
one
Chief
investigator
for
seven
Superior,
Court
judges
and
recorders
court.
The
rapid
resolution
program
is
covered
by
ARP
Grant
paid
investigator,
but
municipal
court
and
juvenile
court
do
not
have
investigators.
M
The
we
have
a
total
of
nine
admins
and
one
part-time
position.
We
have
one
that
covers
the
reception
desk.
We
have
four
admins
that
spread
out
between
seven
Superior
Court
judges
and
two
that
handle
accountability.
Court
and
if
we
do
get
approved,
the
the
circuit
for
mental
health
court
will
have
a
have
to
have
someone
cover
that
as
well.
We
have
one
that
handles
the
RP
program.
M
We
have
one
at
admin
that
handled
juvenile
court
and
then
we
have
one
paralegal
that
handles
all
the
Civil
forfeitures
that
come
over
from
the
police
department
and
Sheriff's
Department.
That
works
with
my
senior
Ada
Fred
Lewis,
with
those
civil
forfeitures
which
raises
money
not
only
for
the
the
the
police
department
and
Sheriff's
Department
alike.
Where
there's
there's
we
have
those
seizures,
they
sell
that.
M
Well,
the
cash
is
season
going
to
the
we
get
10
and
the
arresting
agency
gets
the
gets,
the
rest,
the
vehicles,
jewelry
and
other
items,
I
believe
are
sold
on
govdeals.com
and
those
arresting
agencies
get
those
funds
and
I
believe
we
get
about
10
of
those
what
I've
asked
for
switching
over
to
the
personnel?
M
What
I've
asked
for
in
the
budget
is
two
investigators
which,
according
to
the
the
new
salary
pay
scale,
will
add
to
the
budget
about
85
000
dollars
with
the
combination
of
the
total
of
the
two
and
then
the
two
admins
that
I'm
asking
for
will
add
to
the
budget
approximately
about
seven,
seventy
thousand
dollars
and
and
the
reason
why
I'm
asking
for
these
two
Personnel
additions
is
recently
in
concert
with
the
attorney
general
and
other
investigative
agencies
and
by
the
Gen
Jensen
Hughes
study.
M
We
know
we've
got
to
gain
problem
in
Columbus,
I
mean
it's
it's,
it's
is
here
and
we
have
to
deal
with
it
and
we're
not
only
seeing
that
in
the
The
Gangs
come
in
through
Superior
Court
through
the
adults,
but
we're
also
seeing
a
rise
of
these
kind
of
cases
in
the
juvenile
system
as
well.
M
Very,
very
recently,
we
have
to
make
investigate
those
cases
and
see
if
we're
going
to
keep
them
in
the
juvenile
court,
send
them
over
to
Superior
Court
under
Senate
Bill
440,
who
we
can
prosecute
those
individuals
as
adults,
but
as
of
right
now,
I
do
not
have
an
investigator
in
juvenile
court
period
and
increasingly
we're
seeing
more
serious.
M
Violent
felonies
come
through,
I
mean
juvenile
court
and
we
have
to
address
that,
but
also
with
the
initiatives
that
kudos
to
the
police
department
and
kudos
to
the
Sheriff's
Department,
even
within
the
last
48
hours,
that
the
sheriff's
department
made
a
bus
where
they
had
11
kilos
of
methamphetamine
is
here
in
this
city,
11
kilos,
approximately
a
million
dollars
worth
of
meth
found
in
our
city
recently
is
48
Hours.
M
My
chief
assistant,
Donna
Kelly,
will
be
handling
that
preliminary
hearing
in
the
morning
before
just
Steve
Smith
and
Municipal
Municipal
Court.
This
is
what
we
have
to.
This
is
what
we're
dealing
with
and
the
individual
that
was
found
with
the
drugs
already
has
a
pending
his
own
Bond
or
was
on
bond
until
it
was
arrested
at
pending
murder
case
and
also
is
gained
affiliated,
and
that's
the
other
position
that
I'm
asking
for
is
for
that
investigator.
M
The
second
investigator
to
be
exclusively
exclusively
used
as
a
gang
investigator
to
exclusively
work
with
the
sheriff's
department
and
their
gang
unit,
and
also
the
on
the
police
department
and
their
gang
unit,
utilizing
their
new
analytics
program,
and
it
also,
you
know,
worked
with
the
U.S
attorney's
office
and
attorney
general
and
their
game
task
force
as
well.
So
the
one
investigator
needed
we're
juvenile
court
in
a
second
is
exclusively
to
work.
M
M
So
we
can
then
that'll
give
us
six
admins
that
I
could
dedicate
at
least
we've
got
seven
courtrooms
running
at
the
same
time,
but
they
will
help
with
those
helping
work
with
the
clerk's
office
and
getting
dispositions
taken
care
of,
because
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
to
do
is
that
by
a
new
mandate
that
anything
pre-indictment
meaning
before
court,
we
have
the
responsibility
now
per
mandate
by
the
state
to
handle
any
changes
in
the
GCI
or
the
crime
information
for
a
particular
individual.
M
So
if
the
police
department,
the
sheriff's
department
charged
someone
and
then
we
decline,
maybe
the
prosecutor
on
two
cases
but
decide
to
go
on
the
three
other
counts
on
the
indictment.
We
have
to
change
that
in
their
gcic
to
make
sure
their
record
is
reflected
reflected
correctly
now,
post
adjudication,
that's
the
clerk's
responsibility,
but
pre-adjudication.
We
that's
our
responsibility.
M
We
have
to
maintain
and
make
sure
those
crime
information
statistics
are
correct,
dealing
with
individuals,
pre
and
pre-indictment,
and
that
would
help
out
tremendously
with
those
two
additional
admins
now
going
to
the
operational
request
form
there's
about
about
seven
particular
line
items
that
I
want
to
ask
you
to
reflect
upon
one.
The
most
important
one
is
the
conflict
case,
reimbursement
court
costs.
My
request
was
ten
thousand
dollars
and
what
I
got
back
in
the
proposed
budget
is
zero.
M
I'm
I'm
asking
for
that
money
is
it's
imperative,
and
this
is
why,
because
of
conflict
cases
that
still
need
to
be
prosecuted
because
of
conflict
that
I
may
have
had
in
a
case
or
Mark
Jones
and
during
his
tenure
or
or
Shanika
Terry,
those
cases
are
still
pending
and
they
and
I
can't
prosecute
those
cases.
So,
if
I
can't
prosecute
those
cases
because
of
a
conflict,
I
mean
charges
have
to
be
dismissed
so
I
have
to
most.
M
Even
most
recently,
the
26
co-defendant
RICO
case
was
handled
by
the
Dekalb
District
Attorney's
Office
in
their
game
task
force,
I,
think
24
out
of
26
defendants,
which
were
operating
all
gang
members
and
tied
to
games,
have
all
entered
guilty.
Please
as
of
this
date,
and
that
was
the
responsibility
of
the
DeKalb
office,
and
there
are
other
offices
that
are
handled
handling
conflict
cases
as
we
speak,
and
so
far
we
spent
a
little
over
two
thousand
dollars
reimbursing
those
DA's
offices
across
the
state
and
handling
those
cases
and
they're.
M
Still
a
lot
left.
There's
a
line
item
for
Professional
Services.
M
I've
got
Professional
Services,
the
request
was
3500
and
the
proposed
budget
that
was
given
was
fifteen
hundred
I'm
asking
for
an
additional
2
000,
because
as
technological
as
technology
grows,
we
don't
have
the
resources.
We
have
to
Outsource
a
lot
of
things
that
we
present
as
evidence
in
cases.
M
We
use
Columbus
tape
and
video,
for
example,
to
enhance
surveillance
videos
from
different
businesses
most
recently
shooting
that
occurred
most
recently,
WCB
Bradley
had
the
video,
but
we
need
to
send
that
out
for,
in
enhancement
also
one
line
item.
That's
extremely
important
is
witness
fees.
M
I
asked
for
7
500
dollars
on
that,
but
the
proposed
budget
was
five
thousand
and
this
is
extremely
important,
and
this
is
why
a
lot
of
that
money
goes
to
for
us
to
prosecute
murder
cases,
and
this
is
why,
unfortunately,
the
Pathologists
that
have
reviewed
autopsies-
as
you
know,
they're
doctors
well,
lately
they've
sought
fit
to
leave
the
gbi
and
to
go
out
into
private
practice.
M
So
for
us
to
prosecute
those
cases,
some
dating
back
to
2018
1920s
17.
I.
Have
they
won't
come
for
free
I
have
to
pay
them
in
the
because
they're
in
private
practice
before
they
work
for
the
gbi,
there
was
no
cost
because
they
were
state
employees,
but
now
they've
done
the
autopsies,
but
they
will
not
come
back
to
court
unless
we
pay
them
and
somewhere
in
Florida,
some
still
live
in
the
state.
M
Some
are
up
north
and
and
without
paying
them
to
come
back,
they
won't
come
and
we
cannot
prosecute
these
cases
without
their
help.
So
we're
asking
to
fulfill
to
give
us
back
that
2500,
so
we
can
get
that
7
500.
For
for
those
fees,
then
also
there's
a
the
travel
budget.
It
was
8
500
that
was
requested
on
the
77
000
was
given
in
2022.
M
We
documented
we
spent
8
600
on
travel
and
it's
that's
not
for
the
Adas
or
or
My
investigators
that
for
bringing
Witnesses
back
to
court
because
use
a
personal
example.
I
had
a
case
that
unfortunately
pled
guilty,
but
the
victim
lived
in
Florida
they're,
a
victim
of
an
armed
robbery
case
that
had
moved
if
the
case
had
not
played
I
would
have
had
to
send
him
a
plane
ticket
provide
a
hotel
for
two
or
three
days,
but
fortunately,
I
was
able
to
save
the
money
because
they
pled
guilty
before
trial.
M
But
these
are
situations
where
the
only
way
we
can
prosecute
these
cases
is
bring
the
witnesses
back
so
that
eats
into
the
travel
budget.
So
I
wanted
to
make
sure
you
all
understood
that
it's
not
for
for
us
to
travel.
It's
really
bring
these.
These
Witnesses
back
to
court
in
Education
and
Training
I'm.
Sorry
1500.
The
travel
I
asked
for
8
500.
It
was
proposed.
Seven
thousand
so
I
just
asked
for
the
fifteen
hundred
dollars
to
be
put
back
in
and
that
will
equal
the
amount
that
we
spent
pretty
much
in
2022..
M
In
in
Education
and
Training,
the
request
was
ten
thousand
and
I.
The
proposed
budget
was
6,
500.
I'm,
asking.
M
Yes,
I'm
asking
for
the
3
500
to
be
put
back
in
because
I
mentioned
with
the
investigators
before
early
we've
got
some
new
things
that
are
that
are
happening
in
Columbus
with
these
gangs
and
different
things.
I
I've
got
to
get
not
only
the
investigators
training,
but
also
the
Ada's,
some
Adas
training
as
well
to
because
it's
you
know
it
kind
of
takes
a
specialized
unit,
because
these
Rico
cases
are
extremely
complicated
and
hard
to
prosecute.
M
So,
if
I
can
get
these
investigators
trained
and
get
these
Adas
trained
in
the
in
these
prosecution,
maybe
we
can
stop
some
of
this,
this
this
violence
and
some
of
the
gang
activity
in
this
in
this
community.
So
these
are
some
things
that
that
I'm
asking
for
on
on
these
operation
request,
form
I,
think
my
time
is
up,
but
I
just
wanted
to
explain
the
reason
why
I'm
asking
for
these
these
things.
M
I
M
A
He
he
has
asked
for
the
two
personnel
areas,
two
investigators
at
85
and
two
administrators
at
70.
and
then
the
other
things
that
he
talked
about
was
about
1905.
So
I,
don't
know!
If
how
you
want
to
what'd,
you
say
the
total
of
that
was
Sherman.
H
H
K
Yeah
Mr
Jackson
I'm
willing
to
put
that
on
the
ad
list.
For
you,
let
me
just
say:
look
if
we're
ever
going
to
get
serious
about
crime
and
fighting
crime
and
Prosecuting
crime
and
dealing
with
it,
then
the
buck
stops
with
you,
I
mean
you're
you're,
my
is
the
chief
law
enforcement
officer
or
chief
prosecutor
I
mean
everything
stops
in
your
office,
and
so,
if
that's
what
I
hear
you
saying
that
you
want
to
get
serious
with
crime
and
that's
what
the
citizens
are
telling
us?
K
K
You've
shown
your
your
your
your
value
there
and
you'll
continue
to
do
that
for
the
citizens
of
Columbus.
So
you
need
the
resources
and
I'm
willing
to
yeah.
A
Okay,
councilor
bigley.
N
I
second,
for
the
same
reasons,
Glenn
was
just
saying:
this
is
a
priority.
I
appreciate
you
articulating
the
needs
and
how
they're
being
used
so
I.
Second,
it.
A
Okay,
Mr
Jackson
I
think
what
we
ought
to
do
and
maybe
Miss
Alexander
can
say
yes
or
no.
As
we
look
at
these,
as
I
said,
there
were
seven
different
items
that
you
asked
for
will
put
all
of
them
on
the
add
delete
list
in
a
separate
line
so
that
if,
for
example,
we
feel
like
we
can
only
give
you
the
Personnel,
you
know
we
have
those
separated
out,
but
that's
not
I'm,
not
intimating,
that
that's
what
we're
going
to
do.
Yes,
but
that
will
give
us
a
is
that.
H
H
M
M
A
Okay,
Mr
Jackson,
then
we
have
put
seven
items
on
the
ad
list
for
a
total
of
174
500,
and
we
will
have
this
discussion
next
week
about
where
we're
going
to
what
we
can
do,
where
we're
going
to
delete
other
items.
So
thank
you
so
much.
You
did
a
great
job
for
a
first
time.
It
looks
like
you've
been
before
on
a
platform
before.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
now,
our
next.
A
Our
next
presentation
is
the
Superior
Court
judges
and
we
have
chief
judge
Art
Smith,
who
is
here
to
make
that
presentation.
Welcome,
judge
now,
judge
I
was
told
that
you
were
going
to
hold
us
in
contempt
because
we
told
you
to
be
here
earlier
than
we
really
got
to
to
you.
B
Well,
I've
taken
off
my
judge,
hat
I'm
here
as
someone
with
had
in
hand
actually
asking
for
your
consideration,
so
we'll
just
okay
contempt
to
the
side.
Today
our
office
has
provided
each
of
you
I
believe
a
a
free
ring
binder
with
our
budget
proposals.
B
We've
prepared
an
executive
summary
and
try
and
put
all
of
this
requests
on
one
piece
of
paper.
There
are
two
that
didn't
quite
make
it
to
the
executive
summary,
but
I'll
cover
that
in
just
a
moment,
but
thank
you,
madam
chairman,
members
of
of
our
Consolidated
Council
Mr
Mayor
Mr
city
manager,
Mr,
City
attorney.
B
It
is
my
privilege
to
be
here
today
as
the
chief
judge
of
the
Chattahoochee
circuit,
when
I
presented
the
budget
for
the
Council
of
Superior
Court
judges
of
Georgia,
and
my
role
as
president
of
that
Council
to
the
general
assembly
of
the
house
and
the
Senate.
Both
the
amended
and
and
the
big
budget
I
always
started
my
presentation
with
a
reduction,
a
request
for
a
reduction
in
about
budget
item
and
I'll
do
that
this
afternoon.
It's
not
a
large
production,
but
under
object.
Number
6622,
which
is
denominated,
is
mobile.
B
Phones,
the
actual
amount
that
we
need
is
16754
as
opposed
to
what
has
been
budgeted
at
seventeen
thousand
one.
Ninety
eight,
approximately
500,
550
dollar
savings
there.
The
other
objects
that
I'd
like
to
speak
to
briefly
are
6311
Professional,
Services
interpreter
cost.
B
B
B
Now,
under
contractual
services
for
object,
6319,
the
current
budget
is
nineteen
thousand
five
hundred
dollars.
The
mayor's
proposed
budget
is
twenty
two
thousand
five
hundred
dollars,
there's
still
a
shortfall
of
about
sixteen
thousand
five
hundred
dollars,
recognizing
that
we're
budgeting
for
48
sessions
of
the
rapid
resolution,
Court,
which
I
believe
the
district
attorney.
If
you
will
call
back,
would
say
that
that
is
helpful
in
moving
some
of
the
non-violent,
less
serious
felony
cases.
B
If
we
go
back
to
only
24
sessions
that
twenty
four
thousand
dollar
request
would
drop
to
twelve
thousand,
but
there
would
still
be
a
shortfall
of
16.5.
B
Has
so
the
require
the
required
amount?
Is
thirty
nine
thousand
dollars.
B
Postage
also
reflecting
the
reality
of
what
is
being
spent,
we're
asking
for
seven
thousand
dollars
a
thousand
dollars
for
each
Act
of
Superior
Court
judge
for
postage
The
copier
charges
is
short,
sixty
six
thousand
sixty
dollars,
and
these
are
contractual
obligations
associated
with
the
new
copiers
that
the
city
provided
to
us
last
year
and
that
is
object.
6632.
B
Is
the
mayor's
proposal
is
the
same
as
FY
23
we're
asking
for
eight
thousand
dollars
for
each
Superior,
Court
judge,
just
recognizing
the
cost
of
paper
and
toner
and
ink
pens
and
and
Notepads
for
drawers
and
so
forth
have
gone
up
a
great
deal,
the
only
Capital
we
have
no
Personnel
request.
The
only
Capital
outlay
that
we're
seeking
is
for
the
replacement
of
seven
court,
reporter
Rider
machines,
five
of
the
seven
machines
or
11
years
old.
B
C
B
B
Our
current
administrator
receives
receives
compensation
from
three
sources
from
the
office
of
dispute
resolution
from
a
crime
prevention
grant
for
the
operation
of
the
legitimation
program
and
ten
thousand
dollars
currently
from
the
city,
we're
suggesting
that
the
city's
portion
should
go
from
10
to
25
000,
but
again
being
mindful
of
the
scarcity
of
resources.
We
would
leave
that
to
your
good
judgment,
but
we
really
would
like
to
see
that
increased
at
this
time
by
ten
thousand
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
you
for
the
amended
budget.
B
veterans,
treatment,
court
and
family
accountability
courts.
As
you
know,
most
of
the
funding
for
for
those
programs
come
through
grants
and
it
takes
a
skill
set
that
I
don't
possess
to
write
a
grant
application
and
to
administer
those
grants.
We're
talking
about
state
and
federal
money,
we're
a
very
close
accountability
is
of
those
funds
is
required.
B
We
were
waiting
for
the
city
to
suggest
a
salary
that
would
be
commensurate
to
the
responsibility
so
today,
I
cannot
give
you
a
figure,
but
just
to
make
you
aware
that
we
will
be
requesting
a
new
position
of
director
of
accountability.
Courts
that'll
be
filled
by
someone
who
has
the
experience
and
satisfies
the
requirements
of
the
accountability.
Court
judges
I
believe
that
that
covers
our
request.
B
B
Those
who
are
going
on
to
the
Department
of
Corrections
go
to
the
Department
of
Corrections
and
are
no
longer
being
housed
and
fed
and
Medicated
by
the
Columbus
consolidated
government,
so
I
just
Echo
her
request
and
the
District
Attorney's
I'm
going
to
have
to
leave
for
another
commitment
after
I
answer
any
questions
you
might
have,
but
I
wish
I
could
stay
and
support
the
public
defender
because
I
believe
he's
going
to
have
some
requests.
B
If
we
don't
have
a
public
defender
in
the
courtroom
during
a
criminal
guilty
plea
or
non-jury
day,
we
are
not
very
productive.
We
have
judges
to
sit
and
hear
cases.
We
have
court
reporters
ready
to
take
the
transcript
or
prepare
a
transcript,
but
if
we
don't
have
the
district
attorneys
and
the
public
defenders
we're
not
as
efficient
as
you
would
want
us
to
be,
I'll
be
happy
to
entertain
any
questions.
A
B
D
A
Yes,
the
contractual
Services.
You
said
an
additional
16-5.
B
B
Three:
okay:
that's
the
right:
that's
the
court,
reporter
writer
machine
for
The
copier,
we're
asking
for
an
additional
six
thousand
and
sixty
dollar
six
thousand
and
sixty
dollars.
In
addition,.
A
Okay,
the
office
supplies
you
were
asking
for
an
additional
eight
thousand,
yes
or
a
total
of
eight
thousand
yeah,
the
Capital
outlay.
Fifteen
thousand.
A
And
the
salary
adjustment
of
ten
thousand
dollars
for.
A
Are
there
questions
for
the
judge
for
chief
judge
Council
Barnes?
Did
you
have
a
okay
councilor.
K
Davis
I
got
a
question
for
city
manager,
my
city
manager,
there's
been
some
requests
for
equipment
and
and
other
needs.
I
I
know
that
that
we're
making
soon
a
transition
into
the
the
new
facility
there
in
the
city,
I
guess
we're
going
to
call
it
city
services
building
right.
We
have
a
name
for
you
at
City,
Hall,
City,
Hall,
City
Hall,
but
we've
got
money
already
earmarked
for
a
lot
of
new
items,
meaning
that
there
will
be
a
lot
of
items,
probably
most
likely
left
behind.
K
I,
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
get
transported
I,
don't
even
have
an
idea.
What's
going
to
be
done
with
those
pieces
of
equipment
but
I
guess
the
question
would
be:
is
there
an
opportunity
to
utilize
a
lot
of
this
equipment
that
we
will
have
or
excess
equipment,
Surplus
equipment
that
we
might
have
and
eventually
I
know
that
we'll
be
moving
in?
Well,
it's
you
know
it's
going
to
take
some
time,
but
there'll
be
a
a
new
judicial
building
and
there'll
be
all
new
equipment.
K
Of
course
there
as
well
it
just
it's
a
just
a
kind
of
off
the
cuff
curiosity
type
question
that
that
that
I
asked
based
on
a
lot
of
requests
for
equipment
and
those
kind
of
things
well,.
B
E
K
E
E
A
K
E
B
B
B
My
judicial
assistant
is
Elizabeth
Barker
and
my
summer
law
clerk
Mr
Dillon
Patel,
who
was
with
us
for
part
of
the
summer
at
no
direct
cost
to
the
city
I
might
add,
but
he
is
with
us.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
If
there
are
no
other
questions,
I'll
excuse
myself
well,.
A
Let's
see,
do
you
want
to
do
this
one
as
we
did
the
last
one
and
do
them
by.
A
Give
me
the
numbers:
okay,.
A
The
interpreter
it's
56
000.
B
I
B
H
B
Well,
I
think,
what's
most
important
to
the
citizens
of
Muskogee
County
is
that
we
have
Court.
We
have
court
reporters
so
that
we
can
conduct
the
rapid
resolution
sessions
which
have
been
enormously
successful
in
keeping
the
jail
population
at
a
manageable
level.
That
would
probably
be
number
one
very
close,
very
close
behind.
That
would
be
the
interpreters
because,
as
a
state
mandate
remember
for
both
criminal
and
civil
criminal
cases
have
time
limits
with
them.
Their
statutory
speedy
trial
demands,
but
they're
also
constitutional,
speedy
trial
demand.
B
B
If
you,
the
city,
managers,
has
said
that
he
doesn't
think
that
ought
to
be
a
part
of
the
budget.
That's
that's
above
my
pay
grade.
Y'all
will
figure
that
out,
but
we
do
need
those
one
day
we
will.
We
will
have
to
go
into
the
marketplace
and
Pay
Market
salary
for
a
court
administrator,
so
they're
all
they're,
all
important
to
us,
but
I
think
I've
told
you
the
two
that
that
are
most
most
important.
O
Afternoon,
for
those
of
you
that
don't
know
me,
my
name
is
Steve
Kraft
I'm,
the
chief
assistant
at
the
Chattahoochee
circuit,
Public,
Defender's
Office,
commonly
referred
to
most
everybody
as
the
public
defender.
O
Some
of
you
have
worked
with
for
a
couple
of
decades,
and
this
will
be
my
last
appearance
before
you.
I
will
be
retiring
July,
the
1st.
Those
of
you
who
have
not
worked
with
before
I'm,
going
to
be
sharing
some
duties
and
you'll
see
new
faces
in
the
coming
future.
I'll
still
be
in
Columbus
and
I'll
still
be
available
to
you.
O
If
you
need
anything
pops
as
always
know
how
to
reach
out
to
me
so
I'm
always
there
for
you,
I
mean
and
I
mentioned
that,
because
it's
important
to
understand
our
staffing
levels
and
how
that
impacts.
The
courts
I
want
you
to
write
down
two
numbers,
because
this
is
what
it's
going
to
come
down
to.
At
the
end.
The
first
number
is
two
hundred
and
ten
thousand
seven
hundred
and
forty
dollars.
O
The
second
number
is
237
dollars
and
237
784
dollars
now
I'm,
going
to
tell
you
what
that
money
is
for
the
first
number,
the
210
is
for
a
five
percent
salary
increase
for
the
attorneys
in
our
office,
and
it's
important
to
understand
we're
supposed
to
have
22
attorneys.
We
have
seven
vacancies
right
now
and
with
my
leaving
we
will
have
eight
vacancies.
O
That
leaves
one
assistant
public
defender
per
Superior,
Court
judge,
and
you
heard
from
the
judges
earlier
about
the
importance.
If
we
lose
one
more
assistant
public
defender,
a
judge
will
not
have
a
public
defender
in
his
court.
There
is
not
a
mechanism
to
contract
out
those
cases
that
will
require
some
sharing
and
we
have
attorneys
that
already
are
carrying
500
cases,
a
piece
they
cannot
cover
these
courts.
If
we
don't
have
enough
resources
and
I
bring
up
the
pay
raise
because
Mr
Jackson
mentioned
his
attorney,
staff
is
fully
staffed.
O
Now
it
is
because
he's
hired
away
three
of
my
assistant
public
defenders,
one
with
a
ten
thousand
dollar
salary
increase
and
another
with
a
twenty
thousand
dollar
salary
increase.
We
have
to
have
some
semblance
of
pay
parity.
If
we're
going
to
retain
or
even
recruit
people
for
that
matter,
so
the
210
covers
a
five
percent,
salary
increase
and
I.
Think
I
I
can't
stress
enough.
O
O
All
the
national
standards
say
we
should
have
double
the
support
staff
that
we
have
in
our
office.
We
have
12
total
support.
Personnel
in
our
office,
the
DA's
office
support
staff
is
larger
than
our
entire
office,
all
right.
So
what
we've
asked
for
and
there's
there's
two
parts
to
this.
We
need
eight
additional
Personnel.
Now
we
have
some
arpa
money
that
we
can
grant
fund
for
two
years
to
invest:
I'm
sorry,
one
investigator
one
Clerk
and
one
paralegal.
O
We
would
like
to
go
ahead
and
add
two
investigators,
two
legal
admins
and
one
paralegal
to
the
budget.
Now
and
that's
where
the
237
784
number
comes
from.
That's
includes
all
the
budget
costs,
the
surcharges,
the
whole
thing
and
the
reason
we
want
to
add
this
staff
is
because,
as
it
stands
right
now,
that
attorney
with
500
cases
is
doing
everything
connected
to
that
case.
O
Some
clothes
he's
got
to
handle
that
if
there's
a
pre-trial
hearing
he's
got
a
prep
for
that
and
he
has
to
respond
to
the
dockets
and
our
attorneys
have
to
roughly
I
would
say
about
150
cases
a
month,
they're
physically
in
court,
touching
those
cases
in
court
and
everything
connected
to
that
they're
doing
themselves
and
the
crushing
caseloads
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
lose
people.
We
lost
two
attorneys
to
another
public
defender
circuit
who
pays
a
little
more
than
us
when
their
County
funding.
O
A
Mr
craft,
if
you
will,
would
you
break
down
that
eight
additional
Personnel
again,
yes,.
O
O
Now,
having
said
all
that,
I
just
there's
been
a
28
increase
in
overall
pending
case
loads
over
the
last
five
years,
without
a
corresponding
increase
in
Personnel
or
pay
for
that
matter.
We've
had
a
couple
years
where
we
were
able
to
give
the
attorneys
a
little
more
money
and
we
paid
them
a
couple
of
supplements
and
a
retention
bonus
out
of
some
of
the
money
we
had,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
the
ongoing
salary
they
have
to
count
on
and
we
have
to
have
a
competitive
salary.
O
Now
the
state
is
allocating,
as
and
all
of
you
should
have
received-
hopefully
sometime
last
week,
the
this
overview
pamphlet
of
our
office.
If
you
didn't,
if
you
reach
out
to
me,
I'll
make
sure
you
get
one,
but
it
talks
about
the
distinction
that
we're
a
state
agency
and
the
city
contracts
with
us
and
provides
supplemental
funding.
Now
eight
of
our
attorneys
are
fully
state-funded
Personnel.
That
means
everything
related
to
their
expenses
covered
by
the
state
and
in
the
state
budget.
O
The
governor
allocated
in
approximately
a
50
yeah
a
5200
raise
up
that
I'm.
O
Fifty
five
hundred
dollar
raise
for
those
attorneys,
a
two
thousand
dollar
Cola
and
a
thirty
five
hundred
dollar
step
increase
now
the
main
pair
to
maintain
parity
in
our
own
office.
We
need
to
give
them
a
raise
of
that
five
percent
and
that's
still
not
getting
everybody
up
to
the
same
competitive
standards
that
you
see
in
the
DA's
office
or
in
some
other
agencies,
but
we
have
to
give
them
something
if
we
want
to
keep
them
and
then
we
also
have
to
be
able
to
raise
entry
level
pay
for
a
just
graduate
from
law.
O
O
Now
the
state
is
trying
to
bump
that
up
on
the
state
side,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
can
bump
that
up
on
the
on
the
accounting,
funded
positions
and
and
the
counties,
the
remaining
counties
and
circuit
do
contribute
nominally
to
all
of
that
cost
as
well.
So
all
the
resources
are
shared,
but
the
bulk
of
our
work,
80
plus
percent
of
our
work,
is
right
here
in
Columbus.
In
the
Muskogee
County
Superior
Courts-
and
we
just
we
have
to
have
some
more
Staffing
support
staff.
O
O
Foreign
I'm,
sorry,
there
was
one
other
request
and
I
don't
have
a
dollar
amount
for
that
Flournoy
who's.
The
circuit
public
defender
is
probably
the
most
senior
person
in
the
city,
any
Department
that
doesn't
have
an
executive
assistant.
Now
over
the
years,
I've
carried
a
lot
of
that
responsibility
and
now
I'm
leaving,
and
we
did
ask
for
one
additional
person,
a
reclassification
of
one
of
the
admins
and
that
wasn't
included
and
I.
Don't
know
what
the
cost
to
re-classify
that
admin
to
an
executive
assistant
would
be.
O
But
we
do
want
to
do
that
because
there's
going
to
be
shared
responsibilities
when
I
leave.
The
other
attorneys
that
are
here
with
us
this
morning
are
going
to
take
on
some
of
those
duties,
because
we
can't
pull
one
of
them
out
of
court.
In
fact,
up
until
just
a
few
weeks
ago,
I
was
carrying
a
400
plus
caseload.
O
A
Okay,
councilor
Barnes.
L
O
L
O
A
L
To
him
he's
back
he's
back
you,
you
hit
the
nail
on
the
proverbial
head
when
you
say
gang
suppression
that
I
think
that
that
struck
a
nerve
at
councilor
Davis
beat
me
to
the
punch
when
I
said.
Add
it,
but
and
I
just
want
to
say
another
amen,
but
at
the
same
time,
on
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum,
what
you
got
to
think
about
is
that
you
have
the
individuals
in
the
jails.
L
If
you
have
an
attorney
that
that
leaves
is
following,
that
person
goes
down,
the
clock
goes
back
to
zero,
and
that
person
is
is,
is
spending
additional
time,
and
that
happens
if
we
have
a
rotation
of
attorneys
coming
in
and
on
a
personal
note
he's
not
bringing
this
up
is
the
fact
that
you're
you're
talking
about
not
only
the
individuals
but
families
as
well
and
I,
really
like
that.
The
district
attorney
is
jumping
on
the
case
and
getting
these
through,
because
it
has
an
impact
on
this.
O
I
would
point
out,
as
judge
Smith
said,
the
the
desire
is
they've
made
changes
to
to
expedite
the
processing
of
sentencing,
orders
to
get
people
either
out
of
jail
or
into
the
Department
of
Corrections,
where
there
can't
be
a
sentencing
order.
If
there's
not
a
defense
attorney
in
the
courtroom
to
handle
the
case.
O
The
case
is
not
going
to
go
forward
and
you
know
we
that
this
many
of
you
are
familiar
with
all
the
things
we
did
to
get
rapid
resolution
on
board
and
that
has
made
a
meaningful
and
still
makes
a
meaningful
impact
at
points
that
rapid
resolution
with
one
assistant,
D.A
and
one
assistant
public
defender
now
the
DA's
office
has
some
support
staff.
In
that
program.
O
We
don't
still
moving
25
to
30
percent
of
the
guilty,
pleas
that
move
through
the
system
on
a
regular
basis
and
help
reduce
that
jail
population
and
hopefully,
continues
to
free
up
more
time,
but
still
the
numbers
are
just
excessive
and
without
enough
staff
and
attorneys,
we
can't
move
the
cases,
no
matter
how
quickly
the
state
can
get
them
indicted
or
how
many
hearings
the
judges
can
schedule.
If
there's
not
an
attorney
representing
them,
none
of
those
cases
will
go
anywhere.
I
I.
A
Yes,
yes,
okay,
anything
else
for
the
public
defenders.
O
A
And
next
on,
our
agenda
is
the
recorders
court,
good,
I'm,
sorry,
Miss,
Alexander.
A
Oh
I'm,
sorry
we
didn't,
we
did
not
do
that,
we
didn't
do
the
ad
delete.
Is
there
anyone
who
wants
to
add
any
or
all
of
these
that
the
public
defender
has
brought
to
us?
I
A
Okay,
now
judge
Ranieri
rentiri
for
the
recorders
court.
If
you
would,
this
is
your
first
time
at
the
budget
meeting
in
this
position,
and
so
we
welcome
you
welcome
you
aboard
well.
P
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
know.
Y'all
have
had
a
long
day,
so
I'll
try
to
be
very
brief.
Savannah
just
quick
background.
We
have
18
full-time
employees.
My
name
is
David
Ranieri
by
the
way
I'm,
the
chief
judge-
and
this
is
Claude
Trader
Williams,
the
chief
clerk,
if
you
all,
gave
us
two
full-time
judges
at
the
end
of
February,
judge,
Henderson
and
judge
Whitaker
and
they're
doing
a
great
job.
P
We've
taken
thousands
of
cases
all
that
they
talked
about,
starts
in
recorders,
court
or
a
lot
of
it,
starts
in
recorders
court
and
goes
up
from
there.
So
we
do
over
20
000
cases
last
year.
I
think
we'll
do
more
this
year
very
quickly
over
one
one
million
to
three
million
dollars
in
revenue
and
I'll
talk
very
briefly
about
that.
It's
a
fast-moving
court
and
one
that
citizens
come
in
contact
with
it's
oftentimes,
the
first
one
that
they
come
in
contact
with
with
traffic
citations
and
things
like
that.
P
We
also
handle
felonies,
those
are
in
jail.
Preliminary
hearings,
probable
cause
hearings
and
bail.
P
Just
quick
comparison
and
I
know
this
is
not
exactly
apples
and
apples,
but
I
know
when
I
interviewed
with
the
oversight
committee.
I
saw
it
before
I
even
took
the
job
we
were
short
staffed.
I
could
look
at
Recorder's
court
and
tell
it
was
short
staffed.
If
you
look
at
Savannah-
and
this
was
actually
a
year
old-
they
have
28
full-time
employees,
we
have
18.,
they
had
three
full-time
judges.
P
You
all
brought
us
up
to
three
full-time
judges
and
we
greatly
appreciate
that,
but
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
kind
of
where,
where
we
stand
budget
wise
and
where
we
stand
Personnel
wise
in
comparison-
and
it
makes
a
difference
in
the
services
that
we
can
provide
our
community
and
how
we
deal
with
people
and
I.
Think
that
is
important.
P
We're
asking
for
four
positions:
assistant,
chief
Deputy
clerk,
a
finance
manager
and
two
Deputy
clerk
positions
and
I'm
going
to
spare
you
all
the
details
of
each
one
of
them
and
the
assistant
chief
Deputy
clerk
is
forty,
seven
thousand
one
hundred
and
three
dollars
and
two
cents,
salary
and
I'll
break
all
these
down
at
the
end.
For
you,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
the
details
of
each
one
of
these,
the
finance
manager
is
forty,
four
thousand
eight
hundred
sixty
dollars
and
two
cents
and.
P
Every
jurisdiction
in
the
state
of
Georgia,
every
Metropolitan
jurisdiction
has
an
assistant,
Deputy
Chief
and
a
finance
manager.
We
take
in
a
lot
of
money
and
I
will
tell
you
right
now,
we've
already
in
the
first
four
months
and
I,
don't
want
to
be
known
as
a
revenue
generating
court.
That
is
not
our
function.
That's
not
what
I
want
to
do,
but
we've
already
brought
in
over
930
some
thousand
dollars
compared
to
nine
hundred
and
sixty
five
thousand
in
the
entire
year.
Last
year,
we've
now
raised
our
fines,
we're
not
treating
people
differently.
P
In
fact,
I
think
we're
being
very
fair.
Our
judges
are
being
very
fair,
we're
just
trying
to
hold
people
accountable
and
treat
people
fairly,
but
anyway,
so
we're
asking
for
the
finance
manager
again.
Every
jurisdiction
in
the
state
of
Georgia
has
a
finance
manager.
You've
got
to
have
somebody
handling
the
money
and
responsible
for
that
money
and.
M
P
Have
Miss
Williams
who's
handling
and
responsible
for
almost
all
of
it,
and
it's
really
too
much
when
you're
dealing
with
as
I
expect
already
in
the
first
four
months,
almost
a
million
dollars
you're
talking
about
a
lot
of
money.
That's
coming
into
that
court
that
somebody
has
got
to
be
responsible.
You
have
daily
till
counts
both
coming
in
and
out
it's
an
important
job
to
have
we're
also
asking
for
do
two
Deputy
clerk
positions.
P
When
you
added
two
full-time
judges,
you
increase
the
number
of
Court
sessions.
So
now
we
have
double
the
court
sessions,
but
we're
still
working
on
the
same
understaffed
clerk's
office
that
we
had
before
we
even
started
then
so
now
our
Clerk's
Office.
We
have
great
people,
they
really
are
doing
a
great
job.
I
know
the
city
manager.
Is
he
here.
P
I
think
he
got
an
email
today.
I
saw
it
today
where
somebody's
talking
about
how
great
in
the
service
that
they
got
from
our
office
and
that's
what
we
want,
but
we
are
short
staffed.
We
have
three
judges,
there's
no
Administrative
Assistant,
nobody
helping
them
get
ready
for
court
they're
responsible.
The
clerks
are
trying
to
get
everything
ready,
running
criminal
histories,
driving
histories,
getting
all
the
citations
together.
P
It
is
a
lot
of
work
and
again
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
those
things
with
you,
you're,
looking
at
a
total
of
a
hundred
and
sixty
two
thousand
nine
hundred
ninety
four
dollars
in
salary-
that's
just
a
salary.
Obviously
I
know
that
there's
add-ons
to
that
insurance,
FICA
things
like
that,
but
you're,
looking
at
162,
000
completely
added
to
add
on
there
like
I
said,
we
have
worked
very
very
hard
since
I
took
office
in
January,
our
office
and
our
staff
are
overworked.
P
They
are
stressed
and
they
are
working
hard
to
keep
up
with
people
make
sure
things
are
moving
and
we
are
back
on
on
track.
I
will
tell
you
that
they're
doing
a
great
job,
but
we
do
need
more
people,
they
are
overworked
and
they
are
stressed
to
the
to
the
limit
on
it.
P
When
I
first
interviewed
for
this
job
and
when
I
took
this
job,
I
said
we
need
these
people.
We
definitely
need
I,
see
it
now
that
I
am
in
there,
I
see
how
hard
they're
working
we've
lost
people
because
of
the
high
stress
level
and
the
amount
of
work
that's
being
required
of
our
people,
and
so
I
will
say
that
we
definitely
need
them.
P
Like
I
said
we
have
worked
very
hard.
I
don't
want
to
be
a
revenue
court,
but
we
have
already
generated
almost
as
much
as
the
entire
last
year
and
I
anticipate
that
that
will
continue.
Our
judges
are
doing
a
great
job.
Judge,
Whittaker
and
judge
Henderson
are
very
fair,
they're
listening
to
people
we're
giving
people
the
time,
but
we're
still
holding
people
accountable.
You
know,
if
you
don't
have
insurance,
you
wouldn't
like
it.
If
I
didn't
have
insurance
and
I
ran
into
you,
you
still
have
to
be
held
accountable.
P
If
you
got
your
insurance
shortly
after
well,
you
know
we
may
make
accommodations
for
that.
We
know
that
things
happen,
but
we're
being
very
fair
to
people.
Overall.
There
are
many
more
positive
things
in
the
change,
but
we
desperately
need
these.
People
truly
do
I
can
tell
you
like
I,
said
before
they
were
understaffed
and
overworked
before
I
took
office,
and
now
that
I'm
personally
in
there
I
see
it
for
a
fact
they
do
a
great
job.
They
really
do
the
office,
but
we're
going
to
lose
more
people
if
we
don't
get
get
the
help.
A
A
Is
there
anyone
who
would
want
to
put
that
on
the
ad
delete
list?
A
Judgmentary,
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here.
We
do
appreciate
it
and
we
know
that
with
the
reorganization
of
the
recorders
court,
things
are
moving
and
things
are
moving
in
the
right
direction
and
we
do
appreciate
it.
C
A
That
concludes
our
list
of
presumers.
For
today,
next
week
on
the
16th,
we
are
meeting
at
9
00
a.m,
We
have
four
presentations
and
then
we
will
get
into
the
ad
delete
list
to
make
decisions
on.
Are
we
going
to
add?
Are
we?
What
are
we
going
to
do
so
be
here
with
your
calculators.
N
Would
it
be
fair
to
if
we
create
a
template
that
says
hey
here's
kind
of
how
we'd
like
to
see
the
requests?
You
know
so
it's
head
count
non-head
count
recurring
non-recurring,
you
know
we
have
it
prioritized.
We
can
kind
of
see
this
so
that
way,
we're
we're
not
doing
all
the
calculations
working
just
focus
on
the
need
and
the
purpose
rather
than
the
the
math
if
I
create.
That
is
that
something
we
can.